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Link Summoning ruined the game edition

New summoning mechanic: Link Summon
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>>168593403
Punishment Dragon
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>>168593414
WHAT THE FUCK ARE THESE NEW RULES AND MECHANICS
KONAMI WHY
THIS GAME SUCKS NOW FUCK
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>>168593414
>ruined
More like saved.
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This is your chance /dng/.

Post your once meme build that will now be tier 1.
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MTG is still worse than yugioh.
That said, I hope this kill yugioh for good.
I highly suggest you give Vanguard a try, though Bushiroad was worse than konami until today.
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>new summoning method that uses the extra deck
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Apologize
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>>168593865
neck yourself, Mariomon.
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New Jain
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THE

GAME

LITERALLY

JUST

GOT

REBOOTED
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>>168593414
>YGOPro is an automated simulator.
more like outdated simulator amirite lads
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>Current deck will be useless without Link card
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>tfw still have my nekroz stuff

Hahaha! Its my time again!
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>>168593859
It's standard Nekroz but half the extra deck is Link Monsters and the other half is the Rank 4 toolbox.

My other pet deck is Domain Monarchs.
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>>168593907
Why do we need edgysworn
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Punishment Dragoon/Punishment Dragon
Level 8 DARK Dragon-Type Special Summon Effect Monster
ATK 3000
DEF 2600
Cannot be Normal Summoned. Must be Special Summoned from your hand while you have 4 or more different banished “Lightsworn” monsters, and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways.
(1): Once per turn, during either player’s turn: You can pay 1000 LP; return all face-up banished cards and all cards in the Graveyard to their owner’s Decks, except “Lightsworn” monsters.
(2): Once per turn, if your “Lightsworn” monster’s effect is activated: Send the top 4 cards of your Deck to your Graveyard.
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>>168593859
Monarch Zarc Sacred Beasts
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>>168593987
Chaos engine.
May as well, since ED monsters are unreliable now.
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At least we don't need to use mana to play YGO... yet.
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>standard Zood combo to summon 2 Rat and Kong
>Rat+Lyca into Radiant
>Rat into Tigress, attach something to Kong
>Tigress into Drancia
Well, no Emeral, but I guess it kinda works.
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>>168593957
They've really found a way to get people to buy their new shit.
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Are your decks fucked for this upcoming meta?
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>>168593907
Twilightlord General Jain/Jain, Twilightsworn General
Level 4 DARK Warrior-Type Effect Monster
ATK 1800
DEF 1200
(1): Once per turn: You can banish 1 “Lightsworn” monster from your hand or Graveyard and target 1 face-up monster on the field; it loses ATK and DEF equal to the banished monster’s Level x 300 until the end of the turn.
(2): Once per turn, if another of your “Lightsworn” monster’s effect activates: Send the top 2 cards of your Deck to the Graveyard.
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I noticed that link monsters might have link arrows pointing forward (to your opponent).

If you place it in a ED slot, are you giving your opponent an ED slot also?
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>opponent attacks me directly with Victory Dragon, reducing my life points to 0
>Activates it's effect
>Chain Mystical Refpanel
haha gg no re fuckin IDIOT
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>>168594014
>Special Summon Effect Monster
Wew boy
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I fucking told you, Yugipoos.

It's okay.

Just admit that you were wrong and switch to Magic now. All will be forgiven. It's never too late to switch to the superior card game.

>He literally STILL has not switched to Magic
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Is it just me or are all the new cards revealed so far... really fucking weak?
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>>168594014

>He said something suspicious about the Virus: "Just dont be shocked when eventually, there is a deck that summons a looot of Dark monsters with huuge defense, to use this card successfully and repeatedly to pick apart other strategies". Could this hint at a new archtype?

Tewart knew.
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Wait did they completely change how extra deck monsters work?
Am I reading this right?
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Don't want to spend more 400 shekels in this shit game anymore i even want to sell all my cards because all my decks are worthless now.

You guys should try Online Card Games they are generous and you win cards just by playing.

I'm playing Shadowverse atm.
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>>168594014
TRA
>>168594095
SH
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>>168594125
Yeah.

>>168594157
Yeah, now you need Link monster otherwise you stuck with only 1 ED monster, unless you use Senet shenanigan.
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>>168594125
It's the first set of a new summoning type. If DUEA was anything to go by, the new type will be meh, but there will be some decent archetypes that come out of it.

Expect the good stuff in the next pack, when Link summoning really takes off.
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>>168594229
>otherwise you stuck with only 1 ED monster
Holy shit
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>>168594204
What are you saying? Lightsworn will be meta now.
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>>168594173
does Shadowverse have Dinosaurs?
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Castle Link
Field Spell Card
(1): Once per turn, during your Main Phase: You can target 1 Link Monster you control; move it to a Main Monster Zone on your side of the field that it is linked to.
(2): Once per turn, during your Main Phase: Switch the placements of 2 Link Monsters in your Main Monster Zones, or 2 Link Monsters in your opponent’s Main Monster Zones.
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>this kills the ygo
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>>168594014
>return all face-up banished cards and all cards in the Graveyard to their owner’s Decks, except “Lightsworn” monsters.
There must be some sort of loop with this shit.
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lawnmowing lightsworn will be king in this garbage link format

screen this
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Senet Switch errata when?
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>>168594304
S E N E T
W
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T
C
H
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Isn't old Lightsworn a deck that doesn't rely on its Extra Deck?
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>That moment when Dark Magician becomes a viable Tier 1 deck overnight.

FUCKING NICE
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>Senet-tier shit
Those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it.
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>>168594332
You mean Dracos, an already great deck that isn't hurt at all by the change.
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>>168594304
>Senet Switch Field version ft. disruption
I don't know about you guys, but this is a 3-of along with 3 Terra and 3 Revolving.
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>>168594014
>>168594321
>>168594332
>it can recycle banished spells/traps used for snow white
>every single turn
>because they double your lightsworn mills you'll be sending them right back in there anyway
I want this deck to die.
Why won't they let it die.
Why do they give it a retrained maindeck boss right after the ED gets neutered.
It's not.
Fair.
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Holy shit so they just killed off a shit ton of shit right? Like this just made a ton of decks completely worthless

What the fuck Konami
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- The new rules makes cards like Dark Magician much stronger going forward.
- Product going forward is strictly named Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters (removing the name rebranding each year)
- The new mechanic will not be anything to write home about to start with much like with Duelist Alliance and Generation Force not making Xyz or Pendulum Summoning a big deal to start with
- The new mechanic will get ramped up by July or so
- Decode Talker is a Cybers-Type Monster and is related to "Link Summon"
- The arrival of Link Summon will gut (or is intended to gut) Zoodiac, and make Ultimate Conductor Tyranno (not Megalosmasher X and its ilk) the new metagame from April 2017 or so onwards
- Xyz and Synchro Centric Decks basically die in the face of Link Summon, while Ultimate Conductor Tyranno and the like are important going forward
- The New Lightsworn are super cool.
- Decode Talker is not Yusaku's full ace card, however it's really strong and essentially a vital card for Link Summon. It's a 2300 or so ATK ace like Junk Warrior. The 2500 ATK ace is elsewhere.
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Why do they keep pushing sworns.

Why.
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>>168594332
>mill 18 sworns, 1 snow, and eclipse wyvern
>banish shit
>PD
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>>168594125
Yeah, but every other archetype got nerfed into the ground, that evens things out. Welcome to ygo reboot.
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>there is no way they can actually kill HEROs

Well, I was wrong.

Probably going to play Magic senpai
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You have ten seconds to name one card that has gone from tier one to tier shit as fast as Tzolkin is about to.
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>>168594497
Realistically Decode sits around 2800 at any one time.

If Yusaku isn't a moron with it at least.
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>>168594462
>>168593203
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>>168594392
Yup, it can even keep using the extra for an eventual Minerva or Michael.

Any other decks from that period that benefit from the ED limit?

>>168594565
ATREEEEEYUUUUUUUUUUU
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>>168594276
We have Dragons/Dinosaur which is a pretty cool ramp deck also is t1
The game is pretty balanced give a try if you want is possible to make tons of decks day 1.

read about re roll and HF
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Forget magic friends. Become the chuuni. Getto, critical trigger.
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Skull Servants tier 1?
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>>168594565
Bahamut Shark.
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>>168594394
Not only Dark Magician, but a ton of other decks that were never reliant on the extra deck and were considered Tier 2/3.

This is basically Konami admitting that that Syncro/XYZ got out of control.
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Is there any card game similar to ygo that is worth getting into?
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>>168594565
I'm guessing that the zone restriction only affect proper sync/xyz/fusion.
Ultimaya doesn't properly summon them so I guess he can bypass the loop.

Otherwise fucking Goyo Defender died.
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>>168594635
Is Shadowverse ever going to feature actual interaction between players beyond just whoever curves out better winning?
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>>168594125
That's the idea of the first set, but I'm stunned how the new ace monster has omni negation.
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We still work. Buy waifus.
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>>168594637
We also have semen demons if that's your thing.
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>>168594670
BuddyFight.
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>>168594125
I havent played in a while and came bsck just to joij the hype, but Link Monsters dont even have to be very strong as I understand it, since you can literally only summon 1 extra drck momster withput playing them and they are relatively easy to summon. These are like Xyz in that sense, only decks play them out of necessity more than sheer convenience or value like Xyz. In other words, they dont need to be strong to be good, they basically just need to exist. Youre going to have to play any of them no mattet how atrong they are or be a primarily maindeck centricdeck now which is a minority to say the least.
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>>168594721
DUEA still had Shaddolls and Satellarknights, so far every card in this set has been bad.
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>>168594748
Got any hot dudes?
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>>168594713
>Is Shadowverse ever going to feature actual interaction between players beyond just whoever curves out better winning?
Never this game is a mobile game they don't want japanese salaryman thinking ..
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>>168594565
Ojama
K
I
N
G
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>>168594546
I'm playing porn browser games instead
If I'm gonna get jewed, I'm gonna get my dick hard in the meanwhile as well
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I use Northwenko's effect to protect my Link Monster, Honeybot, who in turn protects my Northwenko by being linked!

You can't break this unbreakable lock!
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>>168594678
i.e. Link Zone is for inherent ED Summons, all other Summons from the ED (by effect) go to the Main Monster Zones
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>>168594748
All of the current meta decks are so boring though
Gear Chronicle has been around for too long, Luard is vanilla beat with the typical restand/guard restrict bosses backed up by way too much card draw, and Sanctuary Guard is just braindead lucksack rush.
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Card games for weebs?
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>>168594794
Now, I'm sure you asked this thinking I would have nothing. But in fact, vanguard has just the clan for you.
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KONAMI HATES SYNCHRO
BUT LOVES XYZ

AM I RITE?
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>>168594879
Go away riverside
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>>168594637
Luard is cool! Cool!

>>168594792
I mean, from the new mechanic, but I get your point.
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>tfw you quit this shit game with smelly players years ago and switched to the greatest card game of all time

Yu-Gay-Ohs don't know this feel
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>synchro doesn't affect other deck that doesn't use synchro. you can use them to make them stronger, but it's not necessary
>xyz doesn't affect other deck that doesn't use xyz. you can use them to make them stronger, but it's not necessary
>pendulum doesn't affect other deck that doesn't use pendulum. you can use them to make your deck stronger, but it's not necessary
>link changes the rule so most of the combo is no longer legal and you must use them otherwise your deck is crippled
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What's cards & decks will skyrocket from the format change?
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>>168594925
All of Luard's support is such trash and he's doomed to carry Diablo on his shoulders forever
It's sad
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>>168594903
Shadowverse
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Lets try to see the board change in a positive way.

Is there any deck that will benefit of being able to play 6 monsters at the same time, being 5 normal deck monsters and the 6th an extra deck monster?
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>>168594916
Konami hates all extra deck besides link equally now.
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>>168594894
How does that effect contact fusions?
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So how long until the anime airs again? I'm retarded and that's probably going to be the only way I figure out how this shitty game works now

Also XYZ spam was just murdered outright, right?
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>>168594963
>posts MaRo
>literally the Tewart of MtG
90% of players on /tg/ would disagree with you but whatever floats your boat.

>>168594996
Normal Pendulums?
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>>168594304
>can switch the placement of your opponent's links for MASTER STRATEGY
>the game has literally become who can manage their card placement and links better
oh this is gon be good
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>>168594894
That means it barely affect Fusion.
And card like Wonder Xyz and Urgent Synchro may see play since they can bypass the restriction.

Okay, I'm gonna wait for the official ruling.
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BUY MONARCHS

A G A I N
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>>168595043
Are you going to summon 5 Pendulums from your hand?
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>>168595043

>Pendulums

I guess, but they got fucked out 2 spell/trap slots.
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>>168594901
But anon, Nightrose is also a meta deck with a cute pirate waifu.

>>168594978
Isn't Senet like 40 already?

>>168594989
Belial Owl is amazing, but yeah, Luard itself is more defensive than anything and that kinda thing doesn't really work in Shadow Paladin so he's stuck with Diablo forever.
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What is the best way to shit out Storm Shooter?
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>>168595060
Proper fusion summons still go to the extra zone.
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>>168594996
Isnt this a positive change already? I mean extra deck spam was one of the things people complained about most, right? I didnt really mind or care about that but I also dont know if thats better than having the extra zone.
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>>168594910
Any hot dudes that look manly?
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>>168595028
Link Zone
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how are my ritual beasts holding up from this?
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>>168595131
Nightrose gets fucked too hard by all the other meta decks playing 10k G2 rides now that they can sit on to force first stride.
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>When a player Special Summons a monster to one of them [EMZ]
I think this implies that you can place MD monster to EMZ.
Basically now you have 6 monster zone.
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>>168595094
No, I mean Normal Pendulums have scales that make them have extra effects like search or piercing all the while they can benefit from a Link support.

>>168595121
Yeah but they really just need two max for a Solemn and that one cont. trap.

>>168595150
It can revert back to hexproof meta with Kozmo, open Kaiju and fight or don't and lose; that sort of thing.
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>>168595121
To be fair a lot of pendulums don't really use that much backrow anyways so its not that much of a hir. Them killing off XYZ makes up for it
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>>168594748
Is it still fun to play? The last time I was realistically around was way back when Limit break was becoming an accepted thing.
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>>168595162
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>Link monsters point to the opponent's field too
What this even mean?
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Guys explain this to me. The zones under the card are your monster zones since the new extra deck zone is in the middle and you can only use one of the two link zones. So what the hell is this thing supposed to do other than make your opponent's link monster immune to targeting and battle?
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>>168595265
It's a very different game now. Rearguard effects got a lot more powerful, so now the game is more combo centric than before. There's also an extra deck now.
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>DM is good now

Hell yeah now I need Apprentice more than ever!
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My big question is:
They stated that after you place a link monster, you can use the zones it links to special summon. Does this include the enemy's field as well? Because in the picture they showed, one of the monster clearly links an opponent's. Can you... steal field from him?

That's cool, I'm super excited.
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>>168595245
Nigga. Monsters summoned from the extra deck goes to the extra monster zone. Pendulum is deader than xyz.
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>>168595150

Yeah, but this is such a large change a lot of people werent waiting for. Most decks based on ed summon cant handle having to make a somewhat large setup just so they can start their combos.
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Are you ready for the new meta /dng/?
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>>168595323

Probably that you opponent will be able to Summon an Extra Deck Monster on their Zone, even though the Link Monster is yours. You could also possibly gain effects with your opponent's monster in a Linked Zone?
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>>168595326
You summon it in one of your monster zones after summoning a link monster in your extra zone.
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>>168595326
Link Monsters that link left or right will only work when they're summoned to a Main Monster Zone, and are otherwise useless in the Extra Monster Zone. So, in order to use their links, you will need to summon a Link Monster that links to a Main Monster Zone from the Extra Monster Zone, then you can summon Honeybot to one of those linked Main Monster Zones, who in turn will link the left and right Main Monster Zones.
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>>168595387
No, dingus.
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>>168595390
learn to read

pendulum monsters go to the normal zones
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GG Link Monsters. ;)
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>>168595467
She's a combo piece but she doesn't protect whoever helped summon her, that's kinda bad.
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>>168595390
>Monsters summoned from the extra deck goes to the extra monster zone.
Only fusions, synchros and xyz, not pendulums.
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>>168595443
>Rows are now viable
Someone call Rank10YGO
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>>168594879
i wanna test the link mechanic but konami just kicked in the ass the players who actually play and spend money in the game just for dumb phone-nostafagfs shitters.
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So this confirms that Konami is trying to kill Yugioh so they can make more pachinko machines, right?
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>>168595387

I think it depends on the effect. One of the card had 2 effects:

1: have 500 more dmg per linked monster (so it makes use of the enemy monster)
2: tribute one of your linked monsters to negate a card of your opponent (so you cant tribute the enemy card)
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>>168595223
That's like 7runner anon, and that shit was pretty much hit by the banlist hard, but Nightrose itself became the best deck thanks to being easily able to do pic related on first stride giving you a +4 easily.

>>168595265
It's pretty damn fun anon, and everyone clan got it's own keyword to work with, some are awesome but others are pretty bad.
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>>168595067
I recently bought 3 structure decks.
Is vanity's fiend still a good buy with this new system?
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>>168595504
>summon monster to their EMZ
>they can't summon monster from ED at all
Flying "C" value just goes up.
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>>168594792
I remember people saying Shadolls were trash because
>fusion summoning
...but yeah, this shit seems weak so far.
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>>168595426
It is a huge change but thats exciting to mw. Its so huge. The biggest thing thst bothers me though is it feels the position rhing is being oversold. It doesnt feel like it actually matters much yet. So it feels disigenuous to tout it as some huge strategic changs. From what Ican tell for example there doenst seem to be a way to sumsmsosn more than 2 extra extra deck monsters at once besides link monsters so no matter how you position you want be getting more than thst. It also doesnt seem to matter where you place the first extra deck monster so why they have it set up so theyre unclaimed until the first one instead of just assignig a zone to a player seems to mean nothing. Up arrows also dont seem to mean anything yet.
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>>168595043
Lmao salty Yugipoo
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>>168595327
So how would I realistically come back into it?

I'm sure I'm missing a shit ton of terminology changes and VG has never been good explaining their shit.
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>>168595539
>*Extra Deck Monsters, like Fusion, Synchro, Xyz, and Link, cannot be Summnoned to the Main Monster Zone, beware!

Is the same of

>*Extra Deck Monsters cannot be Summnoned to the Main Monster Zone, beware!

Unless there's a language barrier here.
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>>168595667
To be fair, nobody believed Konami could make a deck about flipping effects and fusion meta.
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>use Diamond Duston grave effect to summon it to opponent's EMZ
>they can't summon from ED
HAHA-
>can still use it to Link summon
FUCK
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>>168595726
I actually thought theycould make them meta because of Midrash with a good fusion spell but it turns out I was sdti wrong about how and why theyd be good.
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>>168595726
Or Rituals. Or tribute summon. Or spam from the hand. But we've been proven wrong so many times, I'm willing to accept the new mechanic and see where it's going just for the hell of it.
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>>168595605
No, Gear Chronicle and Sanctuary Guard can both stall you out on G2 to force you to go into Sebreeze to do anything, which doesn't actually let Nightrose do anything because the deck needs Goauche first stride to function at all. So like that Gear Chronicle can gather its combo pieces to fuck you up with a first stride Metallica Phoenix, or Sanctuary Guard can kill you with Regalie. Luard can ride one of its 7-9 vanilla G2s as well and then get insane pluses off of first stride Aurageyser with two Belial Owls.
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>>168594792
>first cards in a completely new and gamechanging mechanic that nobody knows anything about or hasn't tested
>the cover card is a negator that'll usually have at least 2800 ATK
>lots of swarmshit, twilightsworn which makes lawnmowingsworns even better, etc
I want braindead trend following netdeckshitters to leave.
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>>168595443
http://yugiohprices.com/card_price?name=Senet+Switch

Let's watch.
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>>168595623

Is it allowed to summon anything for your opponent EMZ? It would be a fucking stall
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RELEASE CONSTRUCT
RELEASE TOWERS
RELEASE NEKROZ
RELEASE CHAIN
RELEASE DRAGON RULERS
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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RELEASE INFER... never mind.
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I hope you've all picked your fallback deck until Konami makes some good link monsters to support these shit rules.
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>>168595819
>the cover card is a negator that'll usually have at least 2800 ATK
That requires other cards to negate shit, and needs 3 monsters to bring out, and only negates targeting effects. Twilightsworns are literal vanilla beatsticks and can't even mill by themselves.
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Wait, I don't get it. Why does this murder every other summoning mechanic?
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Is it wrong if I actually like all the new stuff?
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>>168595941
Kama 2 looks like he's ready to fuck someone up
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>>168595860
I don't know what you are talking about, so I'm just gonna point out that Flying "C" SS itself to your opponent's field.
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>>168595939
Infernities could still make a pretty based Link Engine anon.

If they're released.
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>>168595983
I want to like this but goddamn I need to figure out which of my fucking decks even work anymore
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>>168595956
>needs 3 monsters
If you're retarded, maybe. They have two summoning conditions.
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>>168595941
My toad and pendulum dragon deck are dead but as far as I can tell my Ghostrick, Infernoid and Skull Servant deck are pretty much unaffected since I almost never go into the ED more than once a turn
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>>168595941
They dont need to be good. You have to play them no matter what unless your deck is already doesnt summon from extra as its primary strategy to begin with. If you want to summon multiple extra deck monsters ever, such as with the years and years of cards that support doing so, youre gonna have to play whatever they give you.
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>>168595962
Synchro, Xyz, and Fusion doesn't have Linked Marker.
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Next set will be called The End of the Duelist
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>>168595810
>Luard can ride one of its 7-9 vanilla G2s as well and then get insane pluses off of first stride Aurageyser with two Belial Owls.
More like all of it's G2 are vanilla unless you're an idiot and use Nemain.
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Won't this be a distillated nightmare to code in ygopro?
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The funny thing is that Zoodiacs are actually the best link summon engine.
And they made a link monster that specifically requires EARTH monsters, that conveniently opens up two of your monster zones for extra deck stuff.
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Did they just murder the extra deck?
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>>168595941
Cloudians
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>>168596005

Your opponent main monster field, i suppose. They need to revise a shit load of cards now that there are 2 different monster fields.
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>>168595962
If you initially summon a Fusion, Synchro or Xyz monster, you can't summon any more ED mosnters.

With Links, you can summon more ED monsters from your ED on your MMZ.

Then, there's the limit of 15 cards in your ED.
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How will this new shit affect speed dueling?
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>>168596119
Yes
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>Extra Deck spam shows no signs of stopping, send help
>sure thing bro, now each player can only have one ED monster on-field at once
If this is true, the sheer number of cards that literally won't work anymore will be staggering.
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>>168596054
>to bring out Link-1 monster, you need 1 monster
>to bring out Link-2 monster, you need 2 monster, or Link-1 monster and 1 monster, which is 2 monster
>to bring out Link-3, etc.
Dunno, anon.
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>>168595962
The long and short of it is you can only summon one non link extra deck monster at a time unless you play links which will only let you play like 2 instead of 1 at a time. Which actually is probably the perfect amount. Shit like DD are dead in the water though, somewhat ironically considering theyre still supporting that deck in the new pack.
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>>168596098
Well, you still play 3-4 Hoel, but the rest is all 10k vanillas.
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>>168596212
Hoel is a generation break anon, if you're sitting at G2 all your G2s are pretty much vanilla, or at least in Luard, because in Diablo you can easily play some Blaster Dark Spirit.
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At least I can still rekt my opponent with Igknights.
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>>168596165
Honestly Im still sutprised but after xyz shittig on other existing cards but I still am. Theres thst and also them not having levels OR defense or the ability to change position. they really dont give a fuck.
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>>168596282
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>168596253
So? You're not supposed to stay on G2 forever, just until Nightrose rides G3.
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>>168596282
>summoning more than one monster from extra at a time
LOL! Get a load of this old man.
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>>168596290
English, mother fucker.
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>>168595962

You can only have 1 extra deck monster in the game unless you set up a link monster. Most decks that rely on extra deck summons dont have space for a whole new summon mechanic.
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>>168596134
I'm thinking that EMZ is also treated as monster zone, but it have some special properties.
But if that's the case, as in MMZ is monster zone and EMZ is a brand new field that isn't monster zone, that means EMZ is immune to various effect then, like Senet Switch.
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Reminder that you can Ghost Cherries your opponent into being tied to one ED slot
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>>168596341
Of course, because you doing your own Seebreze is silly in Luard, unless you can activate Ritual in that turn.
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>>168596165
>you don't like how you can only have 1 ED monster?
>buy Link monster then!
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>>168596282
>pendulums are actually better than ever
>can SS them from the ED no problem since they go into main monster zones
>offer plentiful fodder for link summoning, probably the easiest way to do it
>pendulum links that go into your scale and link to the card above them are eventually going to be a thing
I don't even give a shit that they're in the S/T zone now, good Pendulum decks aren't heavy on the sets anyway. It's going to be a GOOD day to play Magicians.

>>168596365
Dumb illiterate.
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>>168596282
>>168596312
>>168596365
>*Extra Deck Monsters, like Fusion, Synchro, Xyz, and Link, cannot be Summnoned to the Main Monster Zone, beware!
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So I dropped out around Qliphoth release.

But new Lightsworns are calling me back.
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shouldn't tokens be proper materials for link monsters?
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>>168596385
>Reaper can hit Link monster
Fucking futureproof.
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They made pendulum zones part of the regular S/T zones?
Fuck that. I am no fan. That means we can only have 5 S/Ts instead of 7. It's a huge nerf to spell centric decks in general, and not just pendulums.
And to be frank. Did pendulums even need such a nerf? They haven't been doing all that hot for ages.
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how are the nips responding to this?
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>>168596469
Right, it's all about securing first stride. The massive advantage swing from Aurageyser tributing Belial Owls is so large that you can easily defend against Nightrose's Goauche play that follows, and then fuck her up with either Spectral Diablo if she leaves cards on the field, or Phantom Diablo if she doesn't.
Luard hard counters Nightrose so hard I don't think I can even consider it a real contender anymore.
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>>168595983
Everything I ever loved is dead, time to play Axe of Despair.dek.
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So, the Extra Deck Zones are shared ? It means Decode Talker actually "capture" an opponent zone is that right ?
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>yfw you realise this doesn't solve anything because Link spam will become the new XYZ spam.
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what happens if my link monster gets destroyed while an xyz is linked to it in a normal monster zone ?
will the xyz get destroyed or can it stay
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>Nekroz are untouched by the new rules
>And now my opponent won't have an unbreakable board every turn
Haha!
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>>168596645
>Link spam
>1 zone
>spam

For fucks sake.
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>>168596485
Can you use pends to summon Link monsters? Don't you need to be able to send the monsters to the grave?
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>>168596652
There's nothing about being destroyed in the rules.
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>>168596576
>Did pendulums even need such a nerf?
I thought they could dodge Wavering Eyes now.

>>168596593
The best part about Belial Owl is how it powercrep'd Swordbreaker Angel, and don't forget Ogma, sure, it might sound silly against fucking Granblue, by doing that shit after you survived the turn when they use all their CBs is strong, and even if they survive that shit you throw a Spectral.
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Who Summoned Skull beatdown here?
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>>168596689
They have no levels.
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>>168596652
The Xyz gets Delinked. It stays where it is, it's just not Linked to anything anymore.
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>all these drastic changes
>the lightning will still be cancer
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>>168594637
Is Buddyfight any good? Made and published by the same people as Vanguard I think
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>>168596539
It should be, just like Synchro can use Token.
That means you can use Gofu tokens to summon a Link-2 monster.
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Link Monsters will definitely have something on the other side right?

Because they will never be in your maindeck and will never be facedown
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>>168596689
Pendulums can be 'sent' to the graveyard in the case of Fusion and Synchro Summons. Link Summons are the same scenario.
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>The Newly Created Extra Monster Zone
>You can only use one of them!<
>*Extra Deck Monsters, like Fusion, Synchro, Xyz, and Link, cannot be Summnoned to the Main Monster Zone, beware!
Ok. So what about extra deck monsters that summon extra deck monsters?
Or archetypes that rely on multiple extra deck monsters in tandem, like fluffals and how one frightfur buffs the others.
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>>168596689
what >>168596771 said, it's just like you can use pendulum monsters as synchro materials
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>>168596619

>Decode Talker
>This card gains 500 ATK for each monster linked to it. During either player's turn, when your opponent activates a card or effect that targets a card(s) you control: You can Tribute 1 of YOUR monsters linked to this card; negate the activation, and if you do, destroy that card.
>YOUR MONSTERS LINKED

You get the 500 atk buff if your opponent summon something directly in front of it, but you cant tribute the opponent monster.
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>>168596831
Useless
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Are Cubics viable now?
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>>168596831
Well you obviously need to link first and then you use the old combos
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>>168596725
>I thought they could dodge Wavering Eyes now.
Nah. The S/T zones become Pendulum zones when they have pendulum cards activated on them.
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uhhhh how are we gonna summon this shit now?
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>>168596831
Link your zones and don't be a fuccboi. Your synchro masturbation will require actual thought now.
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>>168596689
is like mask change II, you cant still special summon the link monster but the metrials dont go to the graveyard
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>>168596831
I'm thinking non-proper summon isn't affected by zone restriction.
So Bahamut, Ultimaya, Goyo, and Supreme Gate bypasses those zone restriction.

I say wait for official ruling
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>>168596771
Synchros require a tuner, it would be too easy to summon monsters just with tokens, that's why you can't xyz with them, and probably can't link either.
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>>168596908
What if I only use one pendulum zone?
Will the other zone be free to use for spell and trap?
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BATTERYMEN TIER 1 LADS
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>>168596901
>>168596930
Explain. I thought you can only use one Extra Deck zone. With Extra Deck monsters not being able to be summoned to the Main Monster Zones.
I don't see how linking makes a difference.
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>>168596919

Just set up a link card that links 3 slots.
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>>168596682
>I still don't know how this mechanic works
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>>168596976
Post builds, at least we can still use 1 Seraph.
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>>168596682
You summon more links to other zones that are linked with it

Also did they mention what happens to ED monster that were summoned to link zones if the link is broken? Do they all go to the grave or just sit there smiling
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>>168596849
Oh the mechanic is even stupider and boring than I thought then. Thanks for the explanation.
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>>168596831
Im thinking this means you just cant normally summon them anywhere but th3 extra zone. Effects that dont properly summon them should still work. We got the example that reborn put extra deck monsters into he main zones.
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>>168596831
>>168596919
>>168596979
Is everyone here illiterate or am I actually the idiot?

The Arrows a Link monster points at BECOME available for extra deck zones
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>>168594761
What are the flaws other than no cute girls?
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>>168596901
>commit to pushing out a Link, then you can try to go off
If only it were that easy!
I mean, if everyone has to slow down a bit to accommodate these rule changes it works a bit, but these just seem so unweildy
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>>168596979
Every Link Monster has Link Arrows pointing to other zones. Those zones - considered Linked - can have Extra Deck monsters summoned into them as long as that Link Monster is on the field.
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Where my spellbook boys at? We tier 1 again?
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>People so butt frustrated at Pendulums that they want konami to kill Pendulums with their new mechanic
>Konami instead listens to Duel Link mobile tier nostalgia faggots instead. And kills all extra deck methods instead
Interesting.
I guess I can try going back to playing Warrior Toolbox and Batterymen now.
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will super poly finally be unbanned in TCG?
will stratos will be ever freed?
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>>168597040
Trust me, you're not the only sane one here.
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>>168596947
You can generally Tribute token and pendulum though.
That means using a monster as material for summon isn't using them as cost of some sort, so pendulum and token should have no problem regarding that.

Though from balancing view, just like you said, it'll be too easy to summon them, but that's how it should work from past mechanic view.
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>>168596835
You can't use them in a contact fusion though.
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Dark World Domination SOON
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>>168596976
>>168597118
Batterymen are funny, they always somehow become kinda viable after a new YGO gen begins.
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>>168596979

When you put a LINK monster in your ED zone, all linked main monster zone slots become ED zone, you retarded.

You can lut yet another Link monster in the new ED zone, creating even more ED zones.

Most combos arent dead, just slowed to a crawl. Perhaps it is the best thing ever happen in ygo.
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>mfw new rulings make Bujins decent again.
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>>168597121
Nah, that's going a bit too far.
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>>168597163
???
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>>168597040
It's what I'm understanding as well but I don't know what happens when it unlocks one for the opponent. Does it just unlock a slot for him, or does it becomes mine ?
I understand I can't tribute from his zone si it probably means The slot doesn't belong to me.
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>>168597163
Forgetting about me and Beast-Eyes, are we?
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>>168597090
I think they're the only option I have that isn't affected by this, so here I am

>>168597242
Here comes the main deck muscle!
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Wait. Can you can summon Link Monsters by sending corresponding monsters from anywhere from your field?
Or just corresponding from the to-be-linked zones?
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>>168597190
Only if they are really careful with LINK monsters.
Because to me it seems like the easiest thing is just to throw every other ED monster away and just use LINKs

but hey they seem weak so far so who knows. Maybe Konami won't go full retard.
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>>168597242
>Honeybot
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>>168597272
That card was created exclusivelly to be a loophole for a Pendulum monster, read Chimeratech or any other cards.
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>>168597323
>Maybe Konami won't go full retard.
Rescue Wiesel, or whatever that one is, is there to make that happen.
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>>168597289
>Does it just unlock a slot for him, or does it becomes mine ?
It helps your opponent.
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Am I a retard, or can you still special summon pendulum monsters from the extra deck with the new rules?
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>>168597289
>Does it just unlock a slot for him, or does it becomes mine ?
It unlocks that slot for him but also LINKS his Monster to yours.
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>>168597321
The materials can come from anywhere on your field.
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>>168597398
It was implied that you both can and can't.
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>>168597289
By my understanding of this sentence
>if you have a Link Monster in the Extra Monster Zone, the Zones pointed at by their Link Markers can be used to Summon Extra Deck Monsters!
>if you have X, Y becomes possible
I say it only affect the controller.

We need a clear ruling, really.
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>>168597289

If you place a link monster that also links to an opponent zone, it either become an extra ED zone for him, or nothing happens. We arent sure yet. It certainly dont become your.
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If I understand correctly:You can only summon one Fusion/Synchro/XYZ monster at a time unless you have Link monsters.If You have a Link Monster you can summon multiple Fusion/Synchro/XYZ
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Link Pendulums when?
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>>168597479
Only if your Link Monster has enough markers facing monster zones on your side of the field.
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Chaos/Chaos Dragons might me viable now, along with all slow control/stun decks.
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so. monsters that are on the zone that are linked to the linked summoned monster can later summon extra deck monsters?
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>>168597459
I wish Jewnami was more specific about it for the rulings, so we wouldn't be left to wonder what the fuck we can do with them.
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>>168597384
>d-doesn't count
It's inherent summon via summoning procedure written in the card.
The required summoning procedure in the card is treated as cost, but inherent summon via summoning mechanic isn't.
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>>168597568
No the zones can be used for ED monsters but obviously not if there are already monsters in it.
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>>168597556
Kek

Chaos Dragons will always be garbo
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>>168597176
How did pendulums made Batterymen viable? Or you mean generation in general with 9v in ZeXaL and Stormforth in Arc-V? Am I remembering the generations right? It's been years, fuck

>>168597389
Just like Rescue Hamster did for pends right
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>>168597641
Guessing you didn't see the Twilightsworn?
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With the new rules, will warrior toolbox be viable again?
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Who /chainburn/? New Monster Zone means 500 more off Desserts!
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>>168597710
>Or you mean generation in general with 9v in ZeXaL and Stormforth in Arc-V?
That.
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>>168597729
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tsSL2rZJXc
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>>168597758
And we thought the deck was kill because of the ruleset that was "spoiled" before, dis gon b gud.
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do i need free ED zones to summon a monster from there
for example i want to summon utopia, on my field i have 1 link monster in my ED zone and 2 level 4 monsters linked to it (their zones are treated as Ed zones because of the link)
can i summon utopia or not ?
theoretically i have no free ED zones but the moment i overlay the level 4s i have a free ED zone
i hope someone understands what i mean
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>>168597710
>>168597763
I was so happy that Konami made 9V, now it's time for new Batterymen support, hopefully a Batteryman Link monster.
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Where were you when KoA were so laughably slow with releasing the DDDs, that Konami had time to change the rules of the entire fucking game before we got them?
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>>168597839
It punishes Zoodiacs hard but they won't be as big of a threat. Sadly, Dinos shitting out Laggia/Toad hurts it.
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>>168597581
Let me give you the rundown, my friend.

Unless we're at victim to shoddy translation on the Org's part, they went out of their way to say 'Summoned'. 'Extra Deck Monsters' cannot be 'Summoned' to the field. If it comes from the Extra Deck, it applies.

The Q&A describing reviving one from the Grave and it going to a Main zone is because it's no longer an Extra Deck monster. It didn't come from your Extra Deck, it came from your Graveyard. This ruling also applies to things like Odd-Eyes Persona Dragon, which cannot negate a Synchro Monster summoned from the Graveyard, for example.

Pendulum Monsters summoned from the Extra Deck are therefore subject to the limit and require Links to be effective, as they need to go into the Extra Deck Monster Zone. Pendulum Summoning from your hand is still viable, however.
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>>168597889
I don't care about DDDs though
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>>168597882
I've been using them for a year now, now it'll actually be decent.
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>>168597862
I'm going to say no.
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>>168595941
Kangs, nigga.
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>>168597862
I don't see why you can't, It's kinda like summoning a new monster by using the old monsters as material even if you have a full field.
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>>168597967
Me too, only deck I own in real life.
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>>168597967
I always had the trashtier fun Batterymen deck, now they can even snatch wins I think.
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>>168597384
????????????????????????????????
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>>168597905
persona dragon
>summoned from the Extra Deck
not the same thing
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>>168597862
That is kinda like saying you can't tribute summon a monster if you have already five monsters on the field
It should definitely work.
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Jesus Christ all this new shit is beating me to the ground to understand.
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>>168597763
Arent there monsters thst need 3 extra deck monsters out? You cant summon them now, can you? As far as I can tell theres no way possible to get 3 markers on cards. I guess you can use senet switch and castle link??
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Is this possible?
Using Link monster to Link summon, and place it in a Linked zone of Link monster used as material?
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>>168595941
Infernoids are mostly unphased about this change.
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>Synchro Spam DEAD
>Xyz Spam DEAD
>New Link overlords are blue.
>Rule changes give rise to ritual renaissance
>Blue
>People dropping the game left and right

I have found the thread theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVpDLqsfe98

No black and white in the blue ;_;
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>>168598158
I don't think so.
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>>168598158
I personally don't think so, because at the time of the summoning, the link monster is not on the field anymore
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Link Slayer
Level 5 EARTH Cybers-Type Effect Monster
ATK Unknown
DEF Unknown
(1) If you control no monsters, you can Special Summon this card (from your hand).
(2) Once per turn: You can discard up to 2 cards, then target that many Spell/Trap Cards on the field; destroy them.
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>>168598067
Yes, it is the same thing.

Odd-Eyes Persona Dragon negates monsters Summoned from the Extra Deck, no matter what type of Summon it was. It can negate a Pendulum Monster that came from the Extra Deck, but not one that came from the hand.

The new summon limit affects monsters Summoned from the Extra Deck, no matter what type of Summon it is. It will affect Pendulum Monsters that came from the Extra Deck, but not those that come from the hand. Likewise, Synchro Monsters that come from the Graveyard will not be subject to it.

The key wording here is 'from the Extra Deck'. If it comes from anywhere else, it's fair game.
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>>168595941
I can't play Madolche anymore, guess I'll play Cyber Angels...

Shit.
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Synchro and Xyz players will now have to play like the guys in the anime do, summon 1 and protect that fucker like it's life or death. Man' that really kills Yusei and Crow, their decks only work with more than one synchro. Judai could possibly be okay, his deck never has more than one fusion elemental hero out anyway in my experience. Yuma decks are definitely gonna be fine, They always only sit on Utopia cards
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>>168597862
>>168598158
I wanna say yes to both but it can't be both
My head!

Tributing comes first so >>168598158 is not possible

That is my ruling for now.
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dw guys, Chain Burn, Exodia and all the other meme decks still work the same :^)
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>crystal beasts decks are viable again
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You'll still buy High Executive Ghenghis right?, Right?
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>>168598141
Summon Link Spider, then summon Honeybot behind Link Spider, then you can get rid of Link Spider to summon 3 ED monster.
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KEK
https://twitter.com/KUJO_KAREN_/status/832571777876234240
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>>168598425
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Do Link Monsters go in the Extra Deck or Main Deck?
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>>168598303
>Doesn't actually destroy link monsters
huh?
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>>168594014
this means in all odds we're gonna see lightsworns in the newanimu
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Wait so is the most amount of ED zones I can have 3 if I put a Link monster with 3 arrows pointing to my field in my Extra Zone?
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>>168598429
Oh, I didnt think about gettig rid of a previously summoned guy. That will work a lot more practically.
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>>168598494
Extra Deck. All Link Monsters stay in the Extra.
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so, if i get out a link monster, then i can extra deck spam?
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>>168598307
He's saying that
>monster that's SS'd from ED =/= ED monster
Ygorg article carefully choose their wording and says the restriction only applied if you want to summon an ED monster, not summon from ED.
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>>168598483
I don't speak moonrunes
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>>168598303
Is this the rumored Dark World support?
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Wait
So toon decks can be a thing?
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ITS OVER
YUGIOH EXTRA DECK SHITTERS ARE FINISHED
OLD SCHOOL IS COMING BACK TO REIGN SUPREME AGAIN
BTFO
BASED KONAMI
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>>168598483
Translate it, weab
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>>168597530
>Link Rituals
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>Because ED is nerfed people are thinking garbage like Toons and Crystal Beasts are a thing

Please stop.
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>>168598303
>>168598519
Link Monsters link Monsters, right? I really don't see how destroying S/T does anything in terms of "slaying" them.
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>>168598663
LINK SYNCHROS WHEN

ERRATA HYPER LIBRARIAN AS A LINK SO I CAN MASTURBATE INTO BLAZAR WHILE HE'S IN HIS OWN COMFY ZONE

FUUUUU WHY DID THEY EVEN RELEASE BLAZAR

I DIDN'T ASK FOR THIS TIMELINE
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>>168598626
>Implying the game won't eventually devolve into Link masturbation
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>reveal the D/D/D Executives and a new RUM
>right next to that
>LITERALLY RIGHT NEXT TO THAT: the one and only reason those cards are unplayable trash
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>>168598612
Your "ED monster" is not a ED monster when summoned from the graveyard.
So a monster is a ED monster whenever summoned from the ED.
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So what are they going to do to Monarchs? Ban them?

Also. ED monsters summoned in one of the new ED Monster Zones, become Kaiju proof, right?
That's kind of interesting.
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>>168598747
>Link Synchros
They don't have levels you dingdong.
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They killed my Gustos... fucking why.
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>>168598636
all card shop in japan stop yugioh acquisition
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can we summon a non extra deck monster to the extra deck monster zone?
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So how do you summon Quasar now?
I am guessing it'll be quite the feat now.
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>>168598856
Nigga they killed pretty much everyone that wasnt playing like Monarchs or any type of Rituals.
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>>168598827
Neither does this but it can still be Pendulum Summoned.
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>>168598424
Meanwhile Gem-Knights got shafted hard
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>>168598827
Perfect
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>>168598541
3 at one time but I mean you could remove your link monster and kill the opponents and then use the other link zone.
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>>168598616
>discard as cost
Almost a decade of Dark Worlds in the game and people STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THEY WORK
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>>168598928
>tfw been making various BLS jank decks for the past five months
>tfw it's finally come in handy
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>>168598816
>Also. ED monsters summoned in one of the new ED Monster Zones, become Kaiju proof, right?
No. Kaijus can be summoned into any zone, they don't have to go wherever the tributed monster once stood. If you tribute a monster in the Extra Monster Zone for a Kaiju, the Kaiju will simply go into a Main Monster Zone.
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>>168598974
>then use the other link zone.

I thought you could only have one link zone and the other one belongs to the opponent?
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>>168598616
More like Fabled support.
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>>168599024
Yes.
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>>168599024
Yeah.
But the moment both are empty to go back to being available for both players, right?

I could be wrong here.
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>>168598917

The initial one you start out with, no. Let's say you have a Link Monster in the Extra Monster Zone; the linked Monster Zones that become Extra Monster Zones in your Monster Zone can have non-Extra Deck Monsters in them. It's just that initial EMZ that can only have Extra Deck Monsters in them.
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>Pendulums can only summon one monster from the ED
>Can't Link summon
>Limited to 3 s/t
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>>168599115
jej
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How do you summon Link monsters?
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>>168599131
>>Pendulums can only summon one monster from the ED
they can summon all they want
>Can't Link summon
because they couldn't Synchro either amirite
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>>168598920
Pretty much have you do shit with killing your own monsters.
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>>168597947
this. they're all ugly AG and overrated as shit, just like reiji himself
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>>168599080
Fucking no.

It's designed to give you the advantage if you Link Summon first.

You choose either left or right depending on where your opponents cards are, consolidating your link opportunities while sealing your opponent's.

Then you stick with that zone for the rest of the game, whilst the other is handed to your opponent.
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>>168599176

There are 2 ways of Link Summoning!!

Send Materials to the Grave Equal to the Link
Number!

You can Link Summon something from your Extra Deck by sending the same number of monsters that meet the material requirements written in the card’s effect box, whose total numbers equal to the LINK number, from the field to the Graveyard

Decrease Materials by Using Link Monsters

Link Monsters are treated as the same number of materials as its LINK Number, however to use them you must match the requirements written on the card!
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>>168599187
It would imply you can link summon with tokens, which you obviously can't.
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>>168598636
"Yu-Gi-Oh, you will not be purchased but just a piece of paper"
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>synchro/xyz fags were always making fun of people who didn't wanted to continue playing because of the new rules
>konami adds more rules
>waaaaaah! I want the old rules back!

I fucking love this
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>>168598623
literally anything that doesn't rely on the extra deck can now be a thing, until we have more info on the link cards coming out in the near future
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>>168598920
>>168599243
What's the problem? I thought after you summon a Link monster you are not limited to your ED monsters and you can summon as many as you like, right?
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>>168598814
Still doesn't make sense why they use a specific and new term like ED monster when they never use it before.
If anything, that means only proper summon is affected by the zone restriction.
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>>168599176

Forgot this bit too:

IN THE CASE OF “DECODE TALKER”
You can either
-Use 3 Effect Monsters
or
-Use 1 Link 2 Effect monster and 1 Effect Monster
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>>168599427
>If anything, that means only proper summon is affected by the zone restriction.
they literally said that you utter baboon
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why would they do this
for nostalgia fags sure it shits on new decks but it shits on old ones which weren't good in the first place, even with this reveal zoodiacs still come out on top

this isnt cool
you didnt need pends but now old shit decks need this
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>>168599387
No. A Link Monster's Link Arrows will point to zones that you're allowed to summon ED monsters in. This has been said numerous times over. You have to carefully choose where you place your monsters now.
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>All these rule changes
LL Master Race!
You heard it here first!
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Does this mean I can't do the Acid/Absolute Zero combo anymore since apparently you can only summon from the extra deck 1 card at a time now?
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PLAY THIS=U WIN
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>>168599516
What the fuck, that means Quasar is literally unsummonable now

RIP
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>>168599330
Not to mention Konami desperately avoided easy synchro recursion in Pendulums, there's no way Link recursion will happen.
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>>168599278
are you sure about that?
Why wouldn't they go back to being available for both players if both link monsters in the middle would die?
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>>168599472
And what's the connection with Pendulum?
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>>168599549
You can if you first get out a Link Monster that links two normal monster fields.
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>>168599549
It would still work because Absolute Zero has to go to the graveyard for you to bring out Acid.
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>>168599549
I imagine you're sending Absolute Zero to the graveyard before you're summoning Acid, so that'd mean you could.
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>>168598626
>old school
nah, shit like blue eyes, true kings, and kozmos will reign
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>>168594304
can we talk about how shit the cards that depend on this to function are?
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>>168598974
>3 at one time
4 at one time should also be possible but needs setting up.
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>>168599330
But you can?

>>168599589
See >>168599438
They designed it with Link recursion in mind.
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>>168599370
Yeah it's pretty funny.
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The Zoodiacs have outlived their usefulness

The reign of the True Dracoslaying King continues
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90% of the old archtypes up from GX are going to be completely fucked unless they get new supports

RIP
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>>168599575
So are most cards in pendulum decks. they only get 3 spell and trap zones now, can only summon 1 card from their extra deck at a time meaning they can't bring back several bad magicians then tune.fuse,overlay, them into Odd eyes forms or enlightenment or startimes or one of the other dimensional dragons

It's horrible, DDD's especially have been fucked by this
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I was kind of looking forward to Konami having finally made Fusion good. And was looking forward to an era of YGO with notable Fusion presence.

But I guess this can be good too. At the very least it's different.
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>>168599817
Too bad Zood just got their Link support.
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>>168599626
Well, we'll have to wait for the ruling.

The initial text seemed to imply that the first move was very consequential but I may have over thought this.
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What if they make Link variants or the other extra deck types.

Like Link-Synchro
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12357259

>>168599848
almost everything pre zexal is gonna be fucked, aren't they?
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>>168599770
Depends if the arrows in the link monsters that option to your opponent give him few ED zones
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>>168599893
It's ED monster, not monster summoned from ED or summon from ED.

I'm in denial just like you until more ruling.
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>buster blader gains 500 atk for each dragon
>decode talker gains 500 for each link
This rabbit hole runs awfully deep.
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Konami pls release Infernities again for Max Link Spam.
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So... If I the ruling right.

Ojamas will fuckup everyone?

I still can't understand jackshit yet.
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>>168599964
tribute/ritual based decks are going to be largely untouched I think, everything else especially the extra deck summoning dependent decks are going to be literally unplayable
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>>168599939
I wish ED monster in general also have Link marker.
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>>168599985
Yeah I was mainly thinking for combos but I guess your opponent could give you ED space too.

But I assume it comes with something negative like the ace monster they have shown getting extra attack.
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>konami add new rules to prevent people from spamming ED monstets
>people cry and tries to find ways to still do it

What if you guys just stop depending on ED to win something?
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>>168600086
>>168598715
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>he can beat you in a fight
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i liked the Ancient occult Egypt theme the old lingo in this game; "Tribute", "Ritual" and stuff.

Now theres bullshit called "XYZ" "Synchro" and "Link". At least the word Pendulum had some occult feel to it but well.

the game mechanics are fine, but the naming is crap
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>>168600086
If Ojama can hit EMZ, then yeah.
They can also be Winda otherwise.
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>>168600086
Hey, how do Ojamas work with Links? They don't have DEF!
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>>168600178

But the game slowing down means decks are LITERALLY unplayable! Why can't I spam my board!!!!!!
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why is /dng/ so slutty?
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>Left and Right
So this is a Link monster meant to summoned in an already Linked zone?
That's pretty interesting I guess.
But I kind of wish they would increase the size of the Extra Deck.
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>>168600178
What if you burndecks just stop depending on burn to win something?

What if you exodiadecks just stop depending on Exodia to win something?

What if you Spellcounter decks just stop depending on Spellcounters to win something?
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>>168600321
Holy crap OCG overlords are salty af
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>>168600178
PTSD
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>>168599939
I think the upgrade for LINKs will be Double-faced LINKs

Think about it! They seem to be extra made so they never need to be face down.

Screencap this. I am a genius
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So, people been memeing about senet switch, but can it work? So far we had "moving left and right", but is now "moving forward and backwards" valid?

>Summon ED monster in the ED slot
>Senet Switch it backwards
>You have a ED monster in a normal monster slot
>Summon a new ED monster in the ED slot.

Can ED monster exist in non ED slots? Alternatively, if you have a LINK monster generating a bunch of ED slots, and it dies, what happen to the ED monsters in the ED slots? They stay there?
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>>168593414
wait i just woke up what the FUCK am i looking at
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>>168593414
I have a proposition to make:
YgoPro should have a setting that allows people to play with the pre-Links rules.
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>>168600092
It's really not cool b/c even with generics you're gonna get so much shit that simply is not that good with a deck and all in all it wont be fun to play b/c you have to jump through so many hoops to do anything.

Actually, to make it worse ED is the same size isn't it? So even if you dont shit out synchro monsters but its your decks focus you get shat on because a small number of them are too good in combination with other shit and their solution was to just gut a large amount of things.

I can't believe it but its actually killing my drive to play.

>>168600178
Gutting mechanics isn't cool. Shit decks that cant really spam anyway get fucked because not only do they have issues making the base 2-3 monster investment to make a link but even if they do they cant really do too much after that till their next turn. As much destruction is in the game there is no point in even bothering
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>>168600529
A game that is going to die very soon.
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>Kozmos was so ahead of it's time it was made ready for Links

woah...

ALSO UNLIMIT ME I NEVER DID ANYTHING WROOOOOOOOOONG I WAS NEVER EVEN THE BEST DECK GOD DAMN IT
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>>168600556

If your drive to play was games lasting 5 seconds while both players competed to see who could spam the board the quickest, then sure.
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In all the excitement over the new rules, nobody noticed that for the first time ever, we are still getting cards of a previous series in a set of a new series. We're getting DDDs in COTD, the first VRAINS set. This means we might get more Arc-V cards in this set and others going forward.
In other words: we're probably STILL gonna get crappy Performapals clogging up set space.
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>>168600614
FUCK OFF YOU HEXPROOF SHITTER IF I WANTED TO PLAY WITH HEXPROOF I WOULD PLAY MTG
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>>168600564
Neck yourself, Mariomon.
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>>168600529
The death of a game.
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>>168599771
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>>168600546
They're probably going to make it fall under the 'Obsolete Rules' setting.
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>>168600546


What a unique proposition, this has never been brought up ever in the game's history by salty nostalgiafags.
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>>168600486
Senet says to move it to adjacent position, since forward and backward is still adjacent, it should be valid.
Based from Q&A, yeah, ED monster can exist in MMZ, so if the Link monster dies or something, there should be no consequence to the ED monster summoned there.

There's also Enemy Controller/Mind Control shenanigan.
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>>168600486
>adjacent
should be possible
also according to vjump, Extra Deck monsters has to be SUMMONED to either an Extra Deck Monster Zone or a linked zone, so there is nothing to hinder you to move Extra Deck monsters
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Were SPYRALs and Subterrors made for this?
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>>168600790
For once I can understand it though. Previous rules changes ADDED new mechanics and usually didn't affect old ones, these new rules seriously hurt old mechanics and ruin many strategies.
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I predicted that the new cards would have HP instead of DEF somehow.
And it's true that the new cards don't have DEF, but it's not really HP.
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>>168600867
I know Kozmos were and is still better than both these shits.
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Wait, if the link monster is destroyed what happens to other extra deck monsters that have been summoned to the zones the link monster is pointing to?
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So can you only summon an Extra Deck Monster in ED/Link Zones or a monster from the extra deck in ED/Link Zones?

If the former, Pendulum is still wacky.
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Wait a minute, are Masked HEROes affected by this rule change? They're technically not fusion summons.
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By the way, according to previous leaks, there should be interactions with Link monsters linking with spells and traps.
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>>168600867
>Quik Fix spam to shit out Links
Tewart wins again
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>>168600872
>For once I can understand it though

Yes, now that you're a nostalgiafag you can "understand" the people who were bitching about Synchro or Xyz or Pendulum
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>>168600624
I haven had that happen in the past few years. I don't really play spam based shit so it would be one-sided if anything.
Fabled has been the one deck I continue to play outside of everything else and I tend to only have 2 synchros out at any given time but having to toss 2(worse if 3) monsters for a link inhibits an already subpar deck.

And just b/c so much shit came out in the past few years I have 200 or so different decks on ygopro and yet the only ones which will work fine are either the op metashit I don't want to play or tribute/banished/oher non ed ss based things.
Which in its own way is cool but if the decks you like are already shit and this shits on them further then you have nothing.
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>>168600964
It is.
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The only thing I am really disappointed with is that monster zone placement now matters.

I can no longer just lazily throw monsters out where they have space to be summoned. Now it matters where I actually summon them. And for online, I can no longer use the auto-placement function, which saved so much time.
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>>168600731
YOU are the one in denial, anon.
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>>168600967
They're Summons from the Extra Deck, so yes.
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Please tell me you can move the Link Monsters once per turn based on its Link Markers.
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>>168600998
>I haven had that happen in the past few years

So in other words, you're completely blind to the current meta which is entirely based around Zoodiacs making it way too easy to create an full board off of one card.

And again, like most people you're equating the game slowing down overall to decks somehow being complete trash because now they have to slow down with everything else.
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>>168601101
there is a field spell, which does that
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>>168600987
>banish it when it leaves the field
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>>168600967
They're fusion monsters, it still counts. Not that it matters, the only playable one is still Dark Law, if you want more than one fusion or other xyz, you still gotta put link monsters in the extra deck. so the extra deck will be full of black and blue with a little purple. It'll be the bruise deck, from all the konami pounding
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>you live in a time where Dark Magician and Blue-Eyes are both meta
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>>168601101
I wish I could have pulled a Tharja. Of any star rank.
But I couldn't even get a low star Tharja.
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>>168600974
Makes sense, anything with a down arrow placed in a linked normal monster zone will be targeting a spell/trap zone

Note how pendulum zones are in specific spots that will be harder to link with
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>>168601101
Oh anon, now you remind me of we are never going get FE cipher in west.
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>>168601079
>>168601167
So are Bahamut Shark and Goyo Defender now 100% useless?
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>>168601142
Abundance of S/T and monster destruction along with blanket negation, summon negation, and monster destruction effects beimg widespread make it kinda not matter.
Also are you the one not paying attention? There is a Zoodiac enabler in the new shit that only needs 2 earth monsters.
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>>168601259
No retard you just need a link.

Decode Talker gives you 2 linked spots. Summon Bahamut in one and Toad into the other and you have a decent board right away
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>>168601185
Well, you just need to summon Missus Radiant and Link Spider, so it's not exactly hard to link with.

I'm hoping there's some Link monster that can bounce linked S/T.
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>>168601259
Not if you set up your Links properly. Which is the point.

Card placement is important now. If you think ahead and set up your Links smartly, you can SS spam just like the old days. If you're dumb and can't get with it, you will fail.
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>>168601259
90%
If you pull out Decode Talker you get 3 ED slots to work with you you can Toad up.
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>>168601259
Well, if your opponent summon a Link monster you may be able to use a normal monster zone to summon Bahamut, but it's not reliable.
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>>168601142
>Slowing down decks that are already slow as shit and have no way to protect themselves
>Dinos/Ancient Gears/ect will move way faster than many decks regardless of if this mechanic is in place or not
>but because it is already subpar decks, i.e. the majority of the game, are pure shit

????
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>he just started his business yesterday
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>>168601259
I'm hoping that improper summon bypass the restriction, so you can at least use Goyo Defender.
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>truly this is the time for my shitty petdeck
You are all deluded

Hey you only have 1 ED zone if you are not using LINKs so what about Noble Knights? Totally makes sense
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>>168601345
>>168601352
>>168601358
>>168601378
>if all monsters you control are EARTH Warrior-type Synchro Monsters
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Do you honestly think YGO is still beginner friendly?
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>>168601230
It hurts!
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>konami indirectly LOWERED the extra deck limit by forcing you to run links if you want to engage in a lot of extra deckery
>you'll now have to choose your ED even more carefully, further neutering toolboxes
Well played.
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>>168601591
>EARTH Warrior
BEST COMBO
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>>168601591
Yeah? Read my post again.
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Fuck I'm really pissed Tewart rarity bumped Circle and Navigate. They're going to shoot through the fucking roof now.
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>>168601434

What exactly is your issue? That bad decks are still bad, but now the game requires a bit more thought and so they're somehow worse (as though your shitty pet deck is the only one slowed down by these rules)?
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>>168601605
ED used to be somewhat beginner friendly.
Now it's not.
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>>168601605
This is less complicated than missing timing.
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>Nerf ED
>Nerf pendulum

Honestly the closest thing this game ever got to an attempt of balance.
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>>168601230
I will never get to play my glorious Roy deck in a language I can read.
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If you destroy a Link Monster while you have an Xyz in the zones they linked, does the Xyz also get destroyed? Or does the zone stay linked?
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>>168601742
Yeah, the only way to use Goyo Defender effect is if your opponent Linked one of your zone.
Which we aren't even sure if it works that way.
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>>168601605
Of course, now you don't even need to learn how to use all those irrelevant ED cards anymore.
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>>168601846
The zone becomes Delinked. However, the monster stays since it's already there. If the Xyz is destroyed, then you'll have to Link the zone again to put a new ED monster there.
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>>168601974
Ok cool thanks. Seems pretty cool
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Can I only destroy a Link Monster by battle in the EMZ by attacking it with a monster the zone opposite of it or can I destroy it from wherever on the field?
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>>168601838
>>Nerf pendulum
Lies! Don't trust /dng/
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Can you even XYZsummon by overlaying Fusion and Normal Monsters anymore?

If not, this makes instant fusion basically useless again
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zones that are linked to the link monster become zones where you can also special summon ED monsters?
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>>168601974
So lets say you summon Utopia to a Linked field. But the Link Monster gets destroyed
Can you still Overlay Lightning?
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Can I Kaiju the Linkmon?
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>>168602114
I assume you can if the new monster is placed in a link zone
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>>168602069
Nothing in the article saying anything about that.
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>>168602069
You can attack a monster in the EMZ with any monster. For all intents and purposes, it is like any other monster zone except for what can be placed into it, and the advantage in Linking positioning.
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>>168602156

Correct.
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>>168602114
What makes you say that?
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>>168601618
Yup, it also killed character decks from GX,5D's,Zexal and Arc-V because now those decks have to run links if they want to use their extra deck summons. It's genius really, extremely dickish, but genius, everybody is forced to use Link monsters or else, everybody except DM characters. Yugi has fusions but he rarely uses or relies on them so he's untouched, in fact, he's more powerful than ever before because the longer the game goes on the longer has more chances to set up combos.
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>>168601930
>Which we aren't even sure if it works that way.
It does. Look at pic related.
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>>168602182
You can. But who chooses where the Kaiju is summoned?
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>ed will have artifically lower limit
>decks that spam shit while searching andfloating will stil lbe top tier
>in reality this doesnt do shit to zoodiacs
>but it guts most other decks
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So are the new changes good or bad in your opinion?

It barely seems like the same game anymore, but I think the game was getting really bad, so maybe this will be a breath of fresh air.
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>>168602182
Yes but not in the Link Zone.
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Damn since Links are extra deck that means the extra deck IS REALLY PACKED if you want to use it.
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>>168602176
That's a very good question. Going off of what we know right now, you would not be able to Overlay into the Lightning. It's still an Xyz Summon, and you're still Summoning the monster from the Extra Deck, albeit with an out-of-the-ordinary material.
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>>168600321
Post more salty OCG overlords please
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>>168601452
Translation?
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>>168602176
Overlay is just Xyz summon using 1 material, you aren't restricted to summon it on the same place as the material.
So unless you have EMZ available, you can't overlay lightning.
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>>168601605
Links are probably easier to grasp than pendulums so if being easy to understand wasnt an issue before it shouldnt be much worse, though it is cumulative. It should be even easier for brand new players who dont know about the old set up anf only know the one extra deck monster without links thing.
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>Fusions are barely hurt because you can fuse from hand and then place the monster in a link zone
>Fluffals are hurt though because you can't spam fusions anymore

Fuck. That's a heavy price to pay for a slower format
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>>168602326
>So are the new changes good or bad in your opinion?
Exciting because new

but also shit because nobody likes change.
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>>168602326
Barring the Arc V rule changes, it's the same game if you never used any of the new mechanics in the first place
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>>168602069
You can destroy it from anywhere on the field.

Is Link Summoning really worth it?If the Link Monster gets destroyed you get limited to one Extra Deck Summon. If you focused on getting one powerful Extra Deck Monster out to begin with you might be able to hold an advantage over the opponent who is trying to set up the Link for multiple Extra Deck Summons.
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>>168602248
WAIT A MINUTE. Why is there an XYZ Monster in the Main Monster Zone and not in the Extra Monster Zone?
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>>168602248
It says that the opponent's zone is linked, so the ace monster attack increase if the zone is occupied by monster.

But nowhere it says that it somehow unlock the zone for the opponent.
The article say that the Link monster must be in your control after all.
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>>168602326
I think its incredibly interesting and should make the game more interesting. On the other end it upsets me how much just died from this.
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>>168602524
The zone is linked
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>>168602524
Because the zone is linked?
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So can you use tokens for a Link Summon?
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>>168602524
Please fucking learn to read
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>>168602398
That was what I was thinking.

>>168602418
So I have an EMZ somewhere else it could still work?
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Dumb question but how do you actually access your side deck while in a duel?
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>>168602632
Ohh shit nigger no!
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>>168602326
I dont know if its good or bad but its new and fascinating, and this mechanic is way more meaningful than pendulums if only because of the new rules as well. Im interested to see if placement really does start to matter a lot or if its still mostly irrelevant.
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>>168602680
Yes.
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>>168602248

There are double arrows towards your own board, and a single Arrow towards the enemy board.

It means it is a different interaction. Do you think that the opponent can summon ED monsters in the linked slot, or it only means things like the "500+ atk for every linked monster" effect is active?
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What cards can come off of the banlist/limited list now?
We can probably have TG Hyper Librarian at 3 and nobody would run any.
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>people used to meme about /dng/ and the game being dead
>the moment news comes in, we hit 500 posts within 3 hours
I love you guys.
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>>168602632
Should work.
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>>168602524
>>168602589

Okay, this is the third time where i feel like i understood the mechanics, but it throws me off again.

i thought Link Markers create Extra Monster Card zones out of nowwhere instead of making Monster Card Zones to Extra Monster Card Zones?

what would happen if the Link Monster in >>168602248 had Link Markers Left and Right instead of Bottom Left and Bottom Right? would the marker showing to the right be useless because theres no Zone?
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So your opponent summons a Link monster that links one of your main monster zones, making you able to summon a ED monster there

You destroy the opponent's Link monster

What happens to your ED monster in the main zone? Does it stay there?
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>>168602812
>would the marker showing to the right be useless

Yes
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>>168602767
Opponent can use that linked slot
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>>168602791
I FUCKING HATE YOU GET OUT OF THIS FUCKING THREAD
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>>168602632
Haha, time for 1-card blader.
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>>168602797
>instant Link-3
YEAAAAAH

>>168602830
See >>168601846 >>168602767
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>>168602783
All the Pendulum searchers.
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>>168602812
>i thought Link Markers create Extra Monster Card zones out of nowwhere

No.

>instead of making Monster Card Zones to Extra Monster Card Zones

Correct, but these Linked Zones can still contain the usual lot, so you can summon any monster in them.
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>>168602573
This sums up my feelings. It's interesting, but goddamn is it incompatible with a lot of current stuff, beyond what's meta
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GET FUCKED EXTRA DECKFAGS

KOZMOS LIVE AGAIN
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>>168602326
In one regard it makes sense and makes non ED things good, but when I look at all the possible decks there are to play and the hundreds I have either tested, seen dng use, or watched videos for its plain to see that you have to jump through hoops to play many of them.

It's mainly that so much goes neglected in this game and fall under the baseline to be passable(not meta, but functional) and I cant help but think that they wont expand properly and many decks will go from being playable but not good to you being unable to play

synchro has been fucked for ages though and i cant imagine that any of the synchro decks would ever be playable again
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>>168602812
Yes to both. Basically you need to link certain link monsters together in specific ways to make the markers matter. For example, in the starter deck you get Link Spider and Honeybot who has side markers. You make Spider first in your extra zone, then when you can make Honeybot you put her in one the linked zones which allows you to summon extra monsters next to her now.
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>>168602949
>>168602881

okay, and it also Links an opponents field as well, right? Thats not good.
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Who's ready for Blue Eyes support in COTD?
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I don't think Xyz is that bad off in this.

Slower but not dead.

Pendulums are pretty much okay too.
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>>168602326
It's fucking Monkey Paw.
All those Barrier Beat player, Duel Link player, and nostalgiafag bitching about ED killed the game got their wish
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>>168603117
Not all link monsters link towards enemy field
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>>168603117
if the marker points to their field it does so Decode Talker would do that
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What are some other cards like Senet that manipulate card positions?
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>>168601168
Blue eyes is gonna be meta again*
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>>168602632
The Tokens cannot be Tributed. Read the fucking card.
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>>168603117
Doubled edged sword buddy. It'll be used to balance the stronger Link monsters.

But you can get also some pluses off of it, (Decode gets +500 ATK for each link and has a possible link on the opponent's side), you'll see effects exploiting this in later sets.
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>>168603117
Well sure but the LINK monster is probably going to profit somehow if it does that

Like the Ace Monster here gets 500 attack for every Monster in one of his linked zones and I am sure there will be others that have other effects on their linked zones. Those could also be negative.
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>>168603117
Nothing indicated that.
Wait for ruling to elaborate further.
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>>168603047
Step aside little man
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>>168603334
Link is not tribute tho'
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>>168603126
I think the only mechanic kiled almost wholesale was synhros. Most of the others are gonna be a deck by deck basis, but generally slower as you said. Normally summons that make single card extra deck summons are indirectly buffed because now other decks cant outspeed that pace without jmping through a lot of hoops. There may also become more emphasis on main deck threats/bosses since you cant put out a lot very easily from the extra.
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>>168603334
Oh yeah, just like how you can't use Level Eater as synchro material, right?
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>>168603207
The genwunners are such a tiny fraction of the Yugioh community that it is impossible for them to even slightly influence any decisions by Konami.

Kill yourself
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Hey guys, guys, one card Link archetype
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>>168603363
>Nothing indicated that
>Nothing except the giant arrow facing towards an opponent zone

You can make reasonable inferences, anon
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>>168603520
>The genwunners are such a tiny fraction of the Yugioh community

That's why DM is still the most popular series in the entire world right?
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>*Extra Deck Monsters, like Fusion, Synchro, Xyz, and Link, cannot be Summnoned to the Main Monster Zone, beware!

WHAT
SO YOU CAN ONLY HAVE ONE EXTRA DECK MONSTER OUT AT A TIME?
WHAT THE FUCK
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>>168603528
We already have a one card link in the starter deck.
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>>168603545
See >>168602767
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>>168603528
and ScapeGoGoat too!
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>>168603593
READ THE FUCKING THREAD, STOP SHITTING UP WITH THE SAME COMMENTS EVERY 10 COMMENTS YOU FUCKING MEXICAN
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>>168603593
Yes, unless you play a Link monster first which can let you summon more. Buy our Links! - Konami
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>>168602632
If they don't require effect monsters, sure.
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>>168603591
That's why genwunners financially support Yugioh, right? NOT

Faggot
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>>168603593
I AM GOING TO FIND AND KILL YOU AND THEN I AM GOING TO PEE ON YOUR GRAVE

That you actually can use more ED monsters but you need to Link the Zones first ;)
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>>168603478
I know Synchros are dead but I can't really explain how or why.
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Since decode talker's effect says tribute a monster linked to it, can you tribute your opponents monster that's linked to it for the effect?
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Why do people think pendulum summoning is gimped by this? It specifically says that it only affects Fusion, Synchro, Xyz, and Link.

>Extra Deck Monsters, like Fusion, Synchro, Xyz, and Link, cannot be Summnoned to the Main Monster Zone, beware!

Pendulum Monsters aren't considered Extra Deck Monsters.
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>>168603680
>Shits on big part of the fanbase for years
>Fanbase leaves
>Wonders why they aren't supporting the game anymore
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>>168603762
No, it says tribute one of your linked monsters
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>Note: Normal Monsters will now list they are Normal Monsters after their Type for OCG Cards
O-oh.
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>>168603762
It says tribute YOUR monster.
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>>168603776
Because people are retarded. Next.
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What the odds of support card adding link markers to a non-link ED monster?
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>pendulums became relevant again
>zarc turbo becomes relevant
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>>168602791
but the cost is a game even more dead (?)
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>>168603776
Not always
But once they are dead you are going to have to link your field.
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>>168603795
Genwunner spotted
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LaDDs.

Is it time?
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On a scale from Not Banned to Banned, just how banned with Monarchs be now?
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>>168603776
>It specifically says that it only affects Fusion, Synchro, Xyz, and Link.
It in fact doesn't, it just has a pic as example of ED monsters.
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>>168603830
>>168603830
Finally. A smart person in these threads.
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serious question
how do summon this thing now?
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>>168603974
LOL
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So how long until enough card shops stop stocking YGO before Links and Vrains get cancelled and the rule changes go away
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>>168603741
Many synchro decks have to summon a lot synchross at once to make more synchros. That was why xyz mehanically didnt have levels.
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>>168602449
why they dont just hit zoodicks? reee
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>>168603776

Pendulum is nerfed because of the 3 s/t limitation, not the ED limitation. It is not a big nerf to pendulum, though.
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Draconet
Level 3 DARK Cybers-Type Effect Monster
ATK Unknown
DEF Unknown
(1) When this card is Normal Summoned: You can Special Summon 1 Level 2 or lower Normal Monster from your hand or Deck in Defense Position.

Instant Donglong/Herald.
And Donglong turbo is still somewhat viable because they only summon Donglong, and maybe Herald on opponent's turn after using Donglong.
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>>168603901
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Is it bad that I now see the new lightsworn decks as macro/chaos decks of the dammed now? 60 card necroface, gren maju, snow white. If things go wrong pay a 1000 and reset my deck. Oh and having soul absorbtion on to grind it in.
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>>168604051
Holy shit. This card is really good.
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>>168603207
this
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>>168604051
>summon a level 2 or lower tuner
ONE CARD SYNCHRO
N
E
C
A
R
D
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>>168604010
Konami won't care, they'll just turn ygo into a pachinko machine.
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>>168603776
>Pendulum Monsters aren't considered Extra Deck Monsters.
They are though.

And Fusion, Synchro, Xyz, and Link monsters will still be able to be summoned to the MMZs for as long as they're summoned from the Graveyard or Banished zone instead of the Extra Deck.
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Okay. WHERE DOES THIS GO NOW?!
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>>168604198
>And Fusion, Synchro, Xyz, and Link monsters will still be able to be summoned to the MMZs for as long as they're summoned from the Graveyard or Banished zone instead of the Extra Deck.
I so fucking doubt that
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>>168604198
No, they are MD monster, unless it's Pendulum hybrid.
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So if I kaiju link monster in the extra zone where does it go?
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D/D/D IS FUCKING DEAD
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>>168604283
We already know if you reborn a dead one it gets put into a main zone.
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>>168603047
>>168603426
Room for one more?
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>>168604283
Dumb illiterate. They're not summoned from the Extra Deck in those cases, so they're not Extra Deck monsters. That's why they had the example Q&A: If you summon back a Synchro Monster using Monster Reborn, it goes into the MMZ.
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>>168604283
>Q: If Special Summoned an Extra Deck Monster normally, and it goes to the Graveyard, and I want to Special Summon it with “Monster Reborn”, which Zone does it go to?
>A: It goes into the Main Monster Zone, not the Extra Monster Zone.
But yeah.
You can't do it unless you properly summon them first.
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>>168596767
It's fucking dedder than ded.
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>>168604198
>inb4 it only applies to facedown extra deck monsters
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>ddd get their original sd release date pushed back for D R A G O N S
>arrive just in time in TCG land for a tier 0 meta
>whats left will be buttfucked by the new summoning mechanics
>new ddds revealed just as these mechanics come to light

i just liked reiji and the design of the archetype what did we do to deserve this
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>Link monsters have no defense
What is even the point of defense mode anymore? They just keep making it more unnecessary
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>>168604051
Yes but that's step 2 step 1 is linking.
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Trigger meeeeeeee
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>>168604198
>>168604420
Niggers. You right.
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>>168604092
What the fuck does that cancerous /r9k/ image have anything to do with Yugioh? What the fucking hell are you smoking? What the fuck do girls have to do with new summoning mechanics and the "degradation" of Yugioh? And you do fucking realize that the original fans of Yugioh are not filthy DM genwunners, but fans of the original manga by the author Kazuki Takahashi, who had no part in making your shitty "original card game", rather Konami made it by themselves?

GET THE FUCK OUT, stupid genwunner
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>>168604501
You don't need no link if you only summon once.
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>>168604606
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Holy shit.

2 new monster zones.

That means Smile World is more powerful now!
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So full force virus kills link monsters right?
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GG pend babies
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>>168604663
I don't get this meme
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You guys just don't understand.
Konami wants to kill all the previous mechanisms. There won't be any survivors.
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>>168604341
>ctrl+F Kaiju
>found answer
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I wonder if we'll get Field Spell cards and stuff that makes MMZs into EMZs.
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D/D/Ds better get an Link Monster or else the deck is dead.
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OH SHIT YOUR OPPONENT SUMMONS MAGICIAN OF BLACK CHAOS.

What do you do?
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>>168604717
Jesus fuck me. Pendulum are actually dead.
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>>168603426
Why don't you pick on someone your own size, buddy?
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Damn Blue-Eyes is going to be relevant again really soon. Is this the fastest a deck has become meta, fallen out of it, and then become meta again?
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>>168604717
Can you set Pendulum though?
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Okay, enough shitposting.
Can someone really explain this? The V-Jump article is kind of vague and confusing.
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>>168595216
You can't have more than one fusion at once, so 90% of the time wont affect you
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>>168604825
It's just a worse ASF.
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>>168604717
ASF is better
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>>168604851
I know, right little guy?
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>>168604863
>implying
Think hard what Zood can do, and can still do.
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>>168600663
Does that mean we might get the Rank 12 Raidraptor in this set too?
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But what does link summoning fix in the game as a concept? It just seems to make things more complicated rather than fix any problems.
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>>168604876
There is a full thread of people asking questions so read through it.
And if you still have a question ask it.

What don't you understand bby?
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>>168603937
IT LITERALLY WRITES IN THERE LIKE YUUGOU,S,X AND LINK YOU FUCKING RETARD
LEARN TO READ
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what's nekroz going to look like after this new mechanic gets put in place?
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>>168604994
ED spam.
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>>168604994
It forces people to buy links if they want to play their shitty petdecks in at least a half-functional state.
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>>168604962
>Gren Maju Cubics
What memes are these?
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>>168604994
Kills zoos and most degenarate ftks
Hopefully chain can come back now
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>The DDD Xyz is slot 42
>Link Gaia and Missus Radiant are slots 51 and 52
How many Link monsters will this set have?
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>>168604994
Slows shit way down to stop the game from having just masturbation decks.
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>>168605079
Do Nekroz use ED?
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>>168604876
There are two new monster zones, dubbed the Extra Monster Zones (EMZ). Monsters from the Extra Deck are summoned here, while the old 5 monster zones have been dubbed the Main Monster Zones (MMZ).

Extra Deck monsters cannot normally be placed into the MMZ when summoned properly, but they DO if they are NOT summoned from the Extra Deck. I.E. if they're revived from the Graveyard. This summoning restriction only applies to monsters summoned straight from the ED.

Link Monsters are a new type of ED monster, and can be summoned in two ways. You can fulfill their listed requirements (Decode Talker is 3 Effect monsters) or tribute Link Monsters that equal its Link (one Link 2 monster + one Link 1 monster = the Link 3 Decode Talker.

Link Monsters have Link Arrows on them. These Link Arrows will point to other zones on the field. A zone that they point to is considered Linked, which some card effects are reliant on. But more importantly, a Linked zone can have ED monsters summoned into them as if they were an EMZ.

As such, if you want to summon a lot of ED monsters with your deck now, you are expected to use Link Monsters.
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>>168604994
yes, it slows things down, but just for a bit
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>>168604717
>>168604825

If there are pendulum cards on the spell slots, they are considered pendulum zones, not spell zones.

You cant target pendulum cards with with cards that affect spells and trals, and you cant affect s/t with cards that affect pendulum.

Read the q&a
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>>168603974
i will miss those niconico replays of sophia, sleep tight crazy nips memes
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>>168605227
>link only masturbation in one year
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>>168605083
the extra deck isnt the problem, it's konami's decision to make shit like "1 card xyz". Shit like blue eyes, noids, and kozmos dont care about this and can still spit out good fields and big monsters
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>>168605093
Jokes on you. I play Gravekeeper's, Mermail and Spyral.
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>>168605164
>Kills zoos
I wish, anon.
I wish.
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>>168605164
>Do the Rat combo
>End with Lyca and 3 Zoodiacs
>Summon a Link using your Xyz
>Still have 1 or 2 monsters left to make Drancia or a generic Xyz
Still a pretty good engine.
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>>168605342
The banlist is still coming out next month. Odds are high Zoos are getting hit there too.
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I've been out of the loop for a while and see this thread in complete chaos
What fresh hell is Konami up to next?
Can I get quick rundown on what's new?
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>synchro summon is de...
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>>168605276
Obviously. But if you activate that and block the left and right most s/t then you can't activate spells there and you can only set your pendulum scales there.
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>>168605423
Yeah. We just got these news just now. Everything is changing.
The biggest change to the game since Synchros.
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Link monsters feel like actual ace monsters since you need them to get rolling l
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>>168605435
u still need link monster to setup 1st
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>>168605273
Interdimensional Matter Transporter, anyone?
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I don't know about you but I'm really excited for this. This starter deck can't come soon enough.
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>>168605435
You still need 2 synchro, therefore you still need at least one link monster, or a card moving effect.
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level eater unbanned when?
kirin unbanned when?

>>168605593
psyframe omega anyone?
drill warrior anyone?
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>>168605559
You need 2 Synchro Monsters on the field first anyway.

Also, this is a improper Extra Deck Summon which isn't being clarified by the new rulings.
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>>168605493

Yeah, but your opponent woulnd need to be stupid enohgh to play a s/t card in the pendulum slots knowing that he intends to put some pend cards there soon.
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>>168605681
>level eater
>change level 8 monster into Link-4
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>>168600321
res in peace overlords decks
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>>168605495
>The biggest change to the game since Synchros.
I'd just say it is the biggest change.
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>>168605234
Of course they do, how do you expect me to pay for Kaleido's cost?
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>>168605817
Stupid players are in abundance anon. But yeah I agree this card won't do much
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>>168605495
It's a bigger change than basically any other change that's ever happened to the game. Possibly combined.
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>>168594106

in the case of that decode talker card, yes

you get two for each side and your opponent gets one
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Will my main man finally be usable with this nerf?
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>yfw red nova, king calamity and tyrant becmoe meta since they dont require another synchro
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Assuming that summoning ED monsters improperly or through non conventional effects make them summoned in the normal monster zone, we can say:

Xyzs are fucked, rank ups/overlays are fucked too since they're actually proper summoning
Synchros are fucked, however shit like Tzolkin and Goyo Defender aren't
Fusions are fucked, unless you're using Cyber-Stein/Summoner of Illusions
Pendulums literally doesn't care, you almost never set 2 scales, pend 5, set 5 anyway.

Is this about right?

Also, is Link Zone a result from a Link monster effect's or an inherent property of a Link card?
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>>168606069
You mean Yugi's main man
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>>168606069
Tier 1
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>Link monster will use card in Linked zone as ammo for their effect
>Castel Link version coming soon, but now it's easier to refill the ammo
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>>168606145
linked zone is probably a mechanic
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You just need to throw 4-5 monsters into the graveyard to unlock the zones to make a single Quasar.
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>>168606145
>rank ups/overlays are fucked too
Why anon?
They can just stay in that zone.

>is Link Zone a result from a Link monster effect's or an inherent property of a Link card?
Most likely the latter.
Just like Pendulum scale.
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Can someone explain what's going on? Did they make the game slower and more methodical like MTG?

They ruined Synchro/XYZ/Pendulum bullshit, right? Game is going back to its roots? I had the most fun playing Yugioh back in the Jinzo/Axe of Despair and other shit like that days.
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>>168606145
>Assuming that summoning ED monsters improperly or through non conventional effects make them summoned in the normal monster zone
They won't be. Unless they were summoned from some place that wasn't the ED.

Meaning that something like Tzolkin and Goyo Defender are still fucked. But cards summoning monsters from the graveyard or banished monsters aren't.
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Huh, Brilliant memes are fucked, too.
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>>168606368
>>168606324
So it can't be negated huh? I see, that make sense.

>They can just stay in that zone.
Nah, I mean if they die then get CotH'd, they can't be used for overlay or rank up if they're not in a linked zone.

>>168606414
>They won't be.
Who knows, let's just wait for the proper ruling.
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>>168606413
>he thinks we're ever gonna slow down
Nah, they just killed the old stuff to force you to buy new stuff.
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>>168606413
>Game is going back to its roots?
It's just going to focus more in main decks monsters. It's nothing like "Jinzo/Axe of Despair"
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>>168606414
Nothing indicated otherwise, anon.
Just wait for proper ruling before going into denial, okay?
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wait a second, pendulum goes to the extra deck when destroyed, does that mean that you can't spam them now unless you link all the monster zones?
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>>168606413
There is an entire thread here. There are multiple explanations here and on /a/rc-v.
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FUCK

I thought the new series mechanic would be pendulum summoning for spell and traps.

Also pendulum zones should have occupied 2 of your spell and trap zones from the start.
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BUY NEKROZ
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>>168606521
But you don't need to stay in the same zone if you overlay or use RUM, anon.
As long as you have EMZ free, no matter where the material is, you can just place the new one there.
Overlay/RUM is just 1-card Xyz summon after all.
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>>168606538
absolutely no idea

removing exclusive pendulum zones is fine, but I think removing the mass summon from the extra deck is too much
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>>168606413
Its a compromise between nostalgiafags and nu-ygofags
Its both slower and more complicated
So nobody is happy.
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Guys,

If you can somehow allowed to draw unlimited cards, you can just use 3 Luminas to spam out the Links.
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>>168606652
So you just move the xyz to that zone if it's free huh? That actually make sense.
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>>168606413
the game will required thinking into card placement . you can use old ass cards that have the effects of changing the monsters placements to screw with the strategy of your opponent
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>>168606538
READ
THE
FUCKING
THREAD
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>>168606330
Just use fusion tag :^)
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>>168606669
being able to "revive" 5 monsters at the same time was broken
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>>168606731
>If you can somehow allowed to draw unlimited cards
EXODIAAAAA
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>>168606763
ALIENS
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>>168593414
This is the rebirth of ygo. Once older players see the game isnt black/white card spam they will come back.
This is the rebirth of ygo. Once older players see the game isnt black/white card spam they will come back.
This is the rebirth of ygo. Once older players see the game isnt black/white card spam they will come back.
This is the rebirth of ygo. Once older players see the game isnt black/white card spam they will come back.
This is the rebirth of ygo.
Screencap, we back boyos!!
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Why is this thread on /vg? It has nothing to do with video games.

Shouldn't this general be on /tg/ with the rest of the card game generals/
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>>168606731
If you are bothering to go full draw, just play exodia
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>>168606774
>Implying the thread has the answer
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>>168606757
Since Ranking Up is summoning an entirely new monster, I'd imagine that's how it works.
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>>168606884
>ctrl F pendulum
>found answer
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>>168606575
>I thought the new series mechanic would be pendulum summoning for spell and traps.
Oh god can you imagine how OP it would be if you could set more than 1 spell/trap per turn
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>>168606978
>Read the next post
>Different answer
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>>168606847
Yeah, it's blue card spam.

Or the meta will be True Dracoslaying copies and "older players" will complain about it again.

>>168606984
>not activating them at the same time
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>>168606847
This is what I've been saying man.

No black and white in the blue.
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>>168606869
/tg/ is MtG turf bitch
You better stay out
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>>168606815
t. genwunner
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>>168606984
But can you imagine how OP it would be if you could set spell/trap from the extra deck?
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>>168607052
Exactly anon.
Now you know the answer is that there's no answer.
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>tfw you still have an old manual describing the game when you bought one of the early as fuck structure decks

It was so simple yet beautiful back then
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So if your Link summon gets fucked up by a solemn or something you're really fucked huh? They're really helping out decks that don't rely on extra decks.
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>>168607259
How early we talking here?
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>>168607304
I think Monarchs are going to get a second assrape from the banlist now just to make sure they never stand up again.
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>>168607304
murdering the game more like

we need some actual backlash for this shit, tewart never even did anything this bad
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>>168607304
Hopefully Strike goes the way of Warning/ Judgment after the new rule change.
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>>168607259
>simple yet beautiful
>50 page manual
I mean, mine might be some sort of bootleg SD, but man, the manual is not simple at all.
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So are Link monsters level 0?
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>>168607089
Yeah, only Tyranno, JD and Master Peace backed by a single stun xyz.
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I'm not sure I've understood this correctly, but if I would synhro summon in one extra monster zone, can i synchro summon in the other one too? Or can I only ever have one ED monster in the em zones?
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>>168607304
That's the thing. I really like how this slows down the game and does make the game as Extra Deck swarm focused, but I don't like that as a result, a lot of decks are retroactively ill-equip to deal with the new restrictions. If Link Summoning was made earlier in the franchise, cards would have been made accordingly.
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>>168607465
They have no level, they interact with level cards like Xyz do I think.
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>>168607496
The moment you summon something in one EM zone in the middle the other zone belongs to your opponent
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>>168607465
Are Xyz monsters Level 0?
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>>168607465
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>>168606413

the first major link archetype is just going to be more >summon A to summon B from your hand which lets you search for C and if you have A & B on the field you can special summon C from your hand at no cost which you can tribute to link summon D which revives A & B and then tribute D/A/B to link summon E

I'm not sure why people think this will be the death of solitaire. It's LITERALLY just to force people to buy new cards as quickly as possible.
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So

Can I kaiju a link monster?
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>>168593414
I already miss Arc-V era. This shit sounds boring and ruins everything.
And I thought Xyz were the purest form of cancer... In the end, I would have prefered untargetable and untributable zodiacs reprints over this complete trash.
The game is dead, and it's the first time I'll be one of this faggot who makes "No new cards" lobby on YGOPRO.
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>>168604154
Deep Sea Diva
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>>168607576
Okay got it. Thank you.
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>>168607496
>but if I would synhro summon in one extra monster zone,
The second you do that, the other Extra monster zone will belong to the opponent.

>can i synchro summon in the other one too?
...so no, you cannot.

>Or can I only ever have one ED monster in the em zones?
Correct, but through Link Monsters, you could get them in the Main Monster zones.
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>>168607645
Only if the there is room on the rest of the field.
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https://twitter.com/konami573ch?lang=en
someone needs some google translated hate
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Oh, Decode gives your opponent a link too huh... So in some ways line monsters might really save your opponent
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>>168607640

Oh, gay.

Also, remove the niggers plaguing your game. I live in Canada but there's still loads of blacks trying to steal in local tournaments.
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Is Ojama King OP now?
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>>168607821
No since you have to run fucking ojama king
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non link monsters with effects making monster zones linked zones when?
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So if I have clear wing in the extra zone and summon glow up can I send the clear wing to the grave and upgrade it to crystal?
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>>168607790
Still not sure whether Link to opponent "unlock" said zone for opponent or just for the related monster's effect purpose.
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>>168607841
ojamas themselves might be pretty good with all the normal support and link not caring about levels though
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>>168607936
Yep
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>>168607936
Probably yes, since you can still Synchro/Xyz/Fusion/Ritual Summon even if your field is full.
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>>168608000
Wait! Can I link the spell and trap card zones?
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>>168607971
Maybe they even get Link support.
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>>168607973
>>168608000
So that means that my RDA deck is still playable.
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>>168608090
It's still S/T zone.
There's rumor that there might be a monster that can use linked S/T zone somehow.
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>>168607951
The Decode's effect only tributes YOUR monsters.

>>168607790
It's possible, but it was not made clear yet. It might just be used for other effects.
I hope it does though. It will be an interesting risk vs reward mechanic.

>>168608090
No.
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ok /dng/ lets see
on a scale from 1 to 10 how fucked is/will be your deck(s)?
>magicians and neo magicians 10
>lunalights 5
>RDA 4 time to shiny
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>>168608090
No

but who knows maybe there will be some effect if you point an arrow at a spell zone down the line.
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>>168608147
Linked scales.

Probably.
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>>168608204
sigh.
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>>168593414
Great. Now I need a Link monster just to summon Red-Eyes Black Dragon Sword. Atleast Saffira is alright. I hope we get better links that require normal monsters.
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>>168608140
>no more Red Rising spam with Red Reso+Duja
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>>168607790
the retrain will probably force the linked monster to fight it
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>>168608153
>>168607951
I could see a beefy beater for a low link that'll give your opponent a lot of links
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>>168600365

what the fuck does it pointing down mean though

does it turn a s/t zone to an extra deck zone? or is that just in case you choose to summon it in the regular extra deck zone?
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>>168608204
>tfw just dropped a lot of money on D/Ds
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>>168608153
>The Decode's effect only tributes YOUR monsters.

He is talking about the 500 atk bonus per linked monster
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https://twitter.com/odt_1/status/832548956743692288

overlords are mad.

poll is about the rule, 1 is "disagree" 2 is "agree" 3 is "it makes no sense"
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should we use numpad notation for the linked zones? easier to type than copy pastaing arrows or writing DL, DR ect
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>>168608325
>what the fuck does it pointing down mean though
That that monster zone becomes an EMZ
Same as all the other arrows.
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>>168608153
Decoder also gains ATK for each monster in his linked zone.
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>Zoodiac is still as strong as ever even after this shit
Kill me.
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>>168608350
Yes, the retailers are claiming to ban yugioh products due to the new game mechanics
https://twitter.com/KUJO_KAREN_/status/832571777876234240
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>>168593859
GUURADIARU BEASTO!!!
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Can you play non-extra deck monsters in the extra monster zone?
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>>168608440
not after the banlist
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>>168608204
>fluffals
well, i can get two fusions on board with sabre. But I will probably be using true kings macr hits
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>>168608406
>>168608346
I read so many dumb comments about tributing opponent's monsters that I completely forgot it had another effect. My bad.
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>>168608395

but i mean what if you're summoning it in an already linked zone, which is what it's apparently for considering the left and right arrows. the down arrow would be pointing at s/t.
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>>168608483
No.
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>>168608325
Link monsters are in a new line zone which is before the monster zone. it just points to a monster zone.
see the scans
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Who here /banned/ again?
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>>168608483
Nothing indicating that you can't.

>>168608597
But anon, the article only say that you can only put ED monster there, not vice versa.
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>>168608548
Then it would do nothing, just like arrows pointing to left and right while in the EMZ.
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>>168608686
>Nothing indicating that you can't.
Except the name of the zone.
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>>168608473
If the backlash is high enough would Konami change the rules?
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>>168608548
Yeah and?
What if you are summoning a link monster on one of the sides and it points to the graveyard or the field spell zone?
Those are also useless.

Now what I think is interesting is if you have a linked monster in zone 1 3 or 5 and it points up?
Does that also count for your opponent?
What about top right and top left? Do they go across the entire field?
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>>168608204
Cyber Angel Seraph has no fucks to give.
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>>168608548
Just like when you summon it on EMZ, the L and R arrow means nothing, by simple logic that means if you summon it on MMZ, all bottom arrow means nothing.
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So, what do you guys think? I like it, but I do hope extra deck goes to 20 now. Extra deck focused decks are already cramped, and Line is mandatory.
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>>168602783
Pretty much any card that existed only for extra deck spam is now much less useful.
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>all the pre-5D's shit are tier 1 now

Welcome back my boy TeleDAD.
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>>168606984
Still better than what we got.
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>>168608802
knowing konami : no.
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