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Previous Thread: >>171156875

>LP's /tosg/ image folder
http://www.mediafire.com/file/z5azfwcrwly8w5x/Lolipan%27s_tosg_folder.rar

>Latest "Patch Notes":
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=874

>Events:
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=860
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=869

>Can I play the game now?
International version available on Steam RIGHT NOW. The Korean and Japanese servers are non-steam (Nexon)

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

https://github.com/Excrulon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager

>Cards List:
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/list-boss-cards-and-effects/321599

>Extra Stat Points
http://pastebin.com/6Y3R7aYt
>Servers
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA) Fedimian(EU) Silute(SA) Telsiai(SEA)

>/tosg/ Guilds info:
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena/Orsha, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a Templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.

>Klaipeda
Futureproof (ApplyAFineHorse3)
CuteNotLewd (Plasmagica)
cute (Merigolds)

>Telsiai
Comfy (Katzenberg)

>Silute
Lewd (Nanaumi)
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/Bullies/ when?
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>>171438585
Not so soon!
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>>171438676
We must speed up progress, then!
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KIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIM!!
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Do random people actually party in this game? I played during the beta when everyone was breaking their necks rushing to cap, has it calmed down a bit?

I figure if I start now I won't be able to level with you guys for ages since I'm 100+ levels behind.
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uhmm, aren't there supposed to be some rocks for that quest here? did i get kim'd?
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Why aren't you playing Wugushi, anon?
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NEW SWAAZ MOVIE IS OUT BOYS, I NEED MORE DISLIKES

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=433C-g5FCaw&t
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>>171439561
But I am!

What's the best way to get a Honeypin card?
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>>171439561

>wugushi without wugushi outfit

gtfo
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Moment of silence for our fallen wugus.
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>>171439727
by paying top dollar to me!

muhahahaha
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>>171438401
Put Fedimian back in the OP.
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>>171440105
Do you happen to have a Gorgon card from before they removed Cathedral mission? I always wanted one.
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>>171439050
People are already at max or 317. They'll have to make new alts to level with yo anyway so just do it.
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>>171439727
I'd say the 175 dungeon, but oops.
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>>171439050
People kinda bitched a lot about how hard leveling is so now the real progression is getting better equipment and buying your attributes, the leveling process itself is mostly solo until level 220 or so and with the recent hunting grounds addition you might even be able to solo past that, not quite sure on that though.
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>>171440301
no sir i do not, wasnt aware it even existed. i hoarded magburks and kirmeleech cards though
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>>171440246
Fuck, I completely forgot. Sorry, anon. ;-;
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>>171439727
>>171439906
I want to lick a wugu
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>>171440301

that one is the boss who can ohko people, right? can sorcerer summon it?
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>>171441383
Feel free to lick my poison darts, pervert
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>>171441383
whisper beethoven
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>>171441471
Yes they can but nobody did the Cathedral mission ever, I did it a few times but they removed it two weeks after I'd finally gotten a character who could solo the mission so I never got the card to drop.
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Where do I farm muh Anti-Dark Bracelete recipes now!?
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>complaining about fun in pvp
>while using a generic Inq build

When PvP is a flawed mess as it is, making sure others have fun isn't exactly high on your priority list.
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https://tos.neet.tv/npcs/57506
IMC.

https://tos.neet.tv/skills/21008
What are you doing with your game?
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>>171442695
Using gear in an MMO is cheating uwaaaaah
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>>171442695
>LolichisSlave
Someone posted a discord chat log last thread and there was a lolichi in it. Could it be mere coincidence? I think not
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>>171442695
Inquisitors can be dealt with by equipping one of the new swords with negative magic attack or just playing well with a wide variety of classes. It's not particularly fun but you don't want to kill yourself and others for participating in such a match

There is literally nothing 95% of people can do against your build except log out, die or pray for a miracle in matchmaking so they will be paired with a whaled up physical attacker
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>>171443050
It's effectively using GTB while being constantly immune to physical damage. How is it not broken?

>inb4 b-but archers
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> played blind when the game came out, got shit build of HL3 Corsair Doppel 2

I was fucking useless, I really thought this game was going to have pvp like RO, when PvP hit I lost all motivation because I'm not an underage neet who can nolife silver attributes for their mage or cleric.

Before I start again for a fresh Doppel, seeing as how Barbarian still gets all the love, how bad is a HL3 Barb Doppel 3 build? Purely for PvE mind you.
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>>171443509
HL3 barb doppel 3 is a good strong build.
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>>171443509
It's good, but HL1 Barb3 Doppel3 is even better.
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>/tosg/ defending one of the most cancerous builds after whining about its existence every thread
Is this bizarro /tosg/?
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>>171443276

how exactly those swords helps? by negating malleus debuff damage? what kills me is the pearls ;_;. very high block rate + leather armor + icewall to parry it and I still kys when they suddenly pop all at the same time in my face, very hard to deal with oracle inqs, miko ones are okay
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>>171442695
fuck off autist, you have some superiority complex and dont even respond to people when they talk to you. retard
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>>171439731
>any wugushi other than the queen wugushi herself (pbuh)
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>>171443509

barbarian had to be buffed because highlander was much better. every single skill from highlander has a good scalling mod (moulinet 5 hits 200%, skyliner 6 hits 200%, crosscut ticks = phys attack, cartar stroke 4 hits 150% each, 300% no knocked down stuff, skull swing negates all enemy armor so you always do full damage no matter if it's the ET 40f boss or sialulai poata and etc while barb's don't (but barbs buffs are nice so..)...
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>>171443835
The reason pears kill you is usually because you have malleus debuff giving them ridiculous damage

You can try just running over them with high block and leather armor with the sword or without malleus debuff, since they do 3 times less damage when you step on them than if they were to fly to you

When you're fighting an Inquisitor you're actually playing the game even if the prospects are grim when you're fighting a karga or an alsheyra you might as well just let go of the keyboard as it makes no difference
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>>171442695

To be honest he has a point.. but the main concern is the lack of players. When the game was alive we had so many people queueing that we actually had a B tier metagame that was fun as fuck to play with lots of diversity and etc. Now every game has a Karga, there's no middle ground unless you loss/throw like 7 games and face people who lost a lot (and usually at weekend) to have some sort of fun. but yeah, his build is as cancerous as yours, you both should play 5x5 or kys

how the fuck you manage to get a #2 instead of a #1, got hunter'd?
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guys check out this triggered white knight in my video comments, its hilarious

any ideas on how to piss him off more?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=433C-g5FCaw
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>>171444102

Sometimes I die even without malleus debuff, like when I teleport as soon as the round starts to try a quick raise before ausrine dance and he setted two layers of traps. depending in the situation sometimes I tank

maybe the guy has 70%+ pearls attribute, otherinqs's pearls are much weaker in comparison to this specific guy

usually I don't care about malleus' sheer power because of missile hole but that -matk sword tricky is neat, there's one inq here who uses ignition and ffs. even if the nuke itself deals 1 damage thanks to MH, the burn procs with malleus' debuff are intense and there's always the panic breaking wheel + malleus debuff that cripples when you catch his partner. even with CS on cooldown, if he drops a good positioned wheel + malleus it becomes unsustainable to combo the raised guy
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>>171443808
People don't like you Karga, fuck off.
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>>171444369
well for one, i got 2 fights in my newest video beating karga 2vs1 with trash gears. maybe hes just shit?

keep ignoring people karga and being disrespectful. totally unnecessary
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>>171438401
let's play a game tosg, post a theme song to your class build
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>>171444997

can you link it for us? I tried to watch your video but 45 minutes... so I just randomly watched a few fights while at high speed
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>>171445243
I will start:
wiz1 pyro1 link2 chrono3 sage1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atuFSv2bLa8
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>>171445243
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVzljDmoPVs
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>>171444369
Yeah he does, but my point is given the state of PvP right now, there really isn't much room to be considerate to other people.
Things won't improve til we get a bigger TBL map, more balance fixes, and more players.
Until then, no one is obligated to stop using builds that work.

I got #2 because I've been TBLing less due to the new server times and hunters/dievoracle duos/physical classes still have a good shot at killing me.
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>>171445243

swordie3 qs1 cos1 dopple3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGNiXGX2nLU
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>>171445432
what class build is that?
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>>171445283
1:05
19:24


2 featherfoots at once - 23:54

i didnt include the first fight in full because my partner helped, i dont include any fights where my partner helps. even though he died and i finished him off
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How does initiate works? it says it increase my block penetration but it seems to stay the same while it does apply the debuff to enemies, also, i seem to be able to block attacks even though im using a 2h spear
Also, is joust int/spr decrease a fixed number or some percentage?
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>>171445445
being inconsiderate doesnt mean playing meta builds, it means you straight up ignore people even when approached without toxic behavior. you have a superiority complex that is just plain disrespectful. you changed. and youre a piece of shit.
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>>171445243
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv13gl0a-FA

sword1 pelt1 hop1 cata3 drg2
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>>171445445

Oh, I see. But imc needs to do something fast about those issues, this is the kind of shit that droves of players that REALLY want to play, not those pve qt memers that just quest and kill mobs. when a player shows interest into the game mechanics and pvp, this is the kind of player that is most likely to invest more time playing and learning the game

but if every time he queues to try something and he has to deal with you or in any wizards case, die by just using one autoattack because of muh pears or a sword guy that thnk he's tank and might do something but then he get chewed by a hunter pet for 180 seconds in a row, well, this guy will go back to league of autism since he'll see no chance of counter play
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>>171445685
Beats Karga AND Cats WITHOUT POTIONS
LOL
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>>171446195
>i know that's impossible for someone like you and this is just a waste of time
>proceeds to comment anyways
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>>171444052
Do they really have so many multipliers? Why are these gooks so cryptic when it comes to information like this why don't they just include it in tooltips?

I remember RO told you how almost all skills scale, unless that was added in private servers, can't remember honestly.
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>>171446491
this is like the 4th time hes said this lmao. and all i do is reply with a 1-liner

"ya well fuck you feminist go blog on tumblr"

then he replies with 2 paragraphs hahahaha
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>>171446195

he's a anon, not your common SJW that you eats for breakfast, this guy probably has a thick skin and is baiting you

like any troll, ignoring is the best option, he'll just go way or break and deliver a 2000 words commentary trying to insult you as a last attempt, and that's when you kill him with a single "kysmm"
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>>171445685
>19:24
Is there even a single person who can stop him?
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>>171446672
ya im pretty sure hes an anon just trying to bait him out

dont need advice on how to deal with trolls lmao....

all im doing is sending him 1 sentence and i get paragraphs so i find no point in stopping
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>>171446195
>Warspear-Online
wtf is this shit swaaz
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>>171446732
hunters... and a corsair with a whale weapon (non whale corsairs still deal no damage...)

>>171446860
its the game where i met azebu many years ago. its a russian mobile mmorpg, i was a moderator (until i exposed the admins corruption and pinned it in their forum for all to see) and i was semi-famous for playing with +0 weapons and beating whales who spent $1000 (id play a ranger and id kite the whale melee's for 5 minutes and slowly win, if they hit me once id die)
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>>171446172
Matchmaking helps to some extent, you can still have casual fun in the lower ranks, but it really has issues of its own, like having the tendency to keep doing the same matchups if all the players queue again.

We'll just have to wait for IMC to patch things, but some of the fixes (bigger TBL map) aren't even on the horizon yet.
It sucks, but what can you do?
I want to maintain a high rank in 2v2 so I won't stop queueing for it, if matchmaking works properly and keeps the more casual characters together then that would be great.
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am i doing it right?
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>>171446508

the thing is Highlander 3 endgame is usually Doppel 3 that has fat amounts of attack from their powerful two handed swords + DOV super steroid (stacked deeds of valor can go up to 160%+ attack, and this affect all your skills from swordsman, highlander and etc).

with vast amounts of attack like this, skills that has a % modifier OR multihits are the ones that will scales great to the late game.

HL set:

Wagon Wheel: that one is just a 4th bash, but it's a better knockdown to combo with cartar stroke's "new" effect. Good one point wonder.

Cartar Stroke: barbs usualyl have that one too (hl 1 barb 3) so it's not really a true highlander privilege.

CS has two overheats and each strike actually deals FOUR hits and each hit has 150% attack mod (tos formulas are basically your (phys attack+skill attack power - enemy DEF) *1,5 on a crit+a few extra damage source like elemental shit and crit attack and a final *%attribute investment), but Cartar stroke's 150% means that, it does not matter if the skill itself has shit base damage, when you use this with a stage 4 gale slasher stacked with dov, all that massive attack is getting a extra 150%, four times so.. 600%.

CS has a new effect that doubles it attack on knockdown targets so you just bash -> cartar stroke ad bang, that's 1200%

Being Strike type, the Wizard skill debuff Lethargy can also doubles it and well, any wizard can do this for you.

HL c2:
Moulinet: Moulinet deals five hits very fast. So, seems a single multihit skill and this alone is good for business but last highlander buffs gave moulinet a combo with crown: moulinet deals double damage on crown'd targets. So you just crown -> moulinet for very fast five 200% hits and being slash type you get a +50% final mod with the cleave debuff from barb c1 (hl 3 barb 1 doppel 3 builds). So, again, the base damage basically doesn't matter, this skills is another way to hurl 1500% phys attack on your enemy

Continue...
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>Get two guild invites today

WHY DOES EVERYONE SUDDENLY WANT A PIECE OF ME!?
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so the best wugu build is

archer3wugushi3falconer1mergen

right?
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>>171447047
You can easily get 1100ish the first day and spare everyone else for the rest of the week if it was just a matter of rank
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>>171446172
He should go to LoL and stat in LoL. If people wanted to PvP en masse there'd be more GvG. Yet, you don't see PvPers gathering together and making PvP guilds to PvP each other, only people who want to play a minigame and belong on a MoBA instead.
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>>171447741
That's not really enough to even get top 3, you need 1150-1200+ for that.
And it's not purely a matter of rank, if I know good players are doing 2v2s then I'll queue if I can.
I actually enjoy fighting, what's the point of building up a character solely for PvP if you're just going to stop using it to 'spare people'?
Matchmaking works (to some extent) and my build isn't that unkillable, so if you're climbing to the top ranks then it's fair game.
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>>171446508
>>171447495

Skyliner & Crosscut.

Skyliner has 3 OH and deals two hits. that seems weak as sword 3 double slash buuuuut this is one is also special.

Skyliner deals 200% final damage on a bleeding target and hits very fast now which means that after a bleed, you can hurl... 400% per skyliner, with a total of 1200% damage by burning the three overheats in a row. It's VERY fast and well, being slash you can combo it with cleave too so 1800% attack basically in one quick sequence.

>but how do I make shit bleed?

Crosscut.

It's simple, you just crosscut something and they starts to bleed so you proceed to skyliner. But Highlander's bleed is not like other weak bleed sources that ticks slowly. The damage scales with physical attack too so it's not just skill damage. you can't increase it with %attribute, but your deeds of valor + fat sword will make the ticks do decent damage. Crosscut itself deals two hits too and while they are weak (no mod, so a just 200% hurl) but the ticks lasts a lot for a total of 10 hits IIRC... it's a respectable fast dot, weaker than fletcher or wugushi but it's still something that increases your total dps.

Continues for c3...
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>>171446508
>>171448731
Vertical swing is the skill that I don't have much experience, but it has a weird mod of scalling % that increase with the amounts of debuffs your target has... and it's also slash, we need someone more experienced on this. it deals one hits with two OH only, but it hit's like a truck, 50k+ VS is a common thing when killing bosses and the party throws a lot of debuffs on it

Skull swing.

as you probably know already, tos formula is basically your physical attack+skill attack MINUS the monsters def before all multiplication. you can say to me: heh how is highlander that strong with low skill attack power that get reduced a lot by monsters' defense before being boosted by all those mods (after all, 500% of nothing is still nothing) and well multi-hits, besides being good suffers the most from enemy defense too (since well, each hit will get reduced by defense, unlike a huge blow)

that's when skull swing comes. skull swing just comes and say: "hey, you have 3000 def? I don't care, here, eat my multihits and %boosted shit" taking enemy defense out of the formula to multiply shit is a huge deal and also helps the party.

remember wizards crying that they 33 multihit frost cloud can't do shit on 3k mdef mobs and their hits for 1 1 1 1 unless they have tier 7+ weapons? well, this will never be a problem to you. currently massive DEF is not really a issue for r8 sword skills (very high base damage like balestra, dethrone and etc) but even so it's free damage and futureproofing PLUS makes your low rank skills deal damage even before a high tier trans weapon. Hl skills are perfect to fit your doppels rotation while cyclone is on cooldown!


NOW STOP PUNCHING HIGHLANDER
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>>171445243
sword1 highlander3 barb1 doppel3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUhBykAA0D8
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>>171446508
RO had some pretty fucked up damage and success formulas they didn't tell you. Specially after 3rd classes when they started adding stats to a bunch of skill formulas.
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>>171448829
I can see why Highlander scales better, those new changes to Catar and Moulinet look sweet.

Do you have any advice on stat distribution? How much CON is good and what STR and DEX ratio is good? DEX still doesn't scale with rank right?
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>>171448470

Nah, people still love mmos + pvp. they know that pvp is not the whole mmo thing, but raising a character, building it, gearing it and learning how to play it on a mmo's pvp is something VERY unique.


But yeah, moba is actually a resume of the mmo's adventure (you build, farm, grind, fight and take objectives, basically the whole mmo early-mid and late game in just one match), and that's why lots of mmo people that grow up playing MMO went to mobas (they need to work/study hard now and can't grind/farm five days a week to play one WoE at the weekend) so they just play dotka/lol matches to get their fix

TBL is a very good concept that imc did right, it's OPTIONAL, no one needs to play but it's here for you if you want and it's basically the moba team fight experience with your beloved MMOrpg character with lots of builds and combinations and etc, they did very well by making it a league that opens at X time instead of being a 24 hours open arena (but I really miss this from RO, it just wouldn't work for tos), that kind of shit hook people into the game with a ranking system but well, I don't need to tell you how they fucked up on balance, performance, arena size (5x5) and the gvg weak objectives...
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>>171449439

Well, physical dps is basically full dex now. survivability come from gear and hats, and unlike archers, swordsman has a nice base hp scalling with level so you can pretty much go safe with full dex.

>why dex and no str

Gems got a massive buff plus high tier weapons. You do more dps with very high dex giving you lots of crit chance + gems attack power + hats attack (that also were buffed) + very high attack from weapons itself than the "flat" str scalling, even with the extra str from rank ups. Plus dex gives some survivability with evasion

Before that (rank 7 old days), str + green gems to achiev critical rate were the meta so people rolled :1 str/dex builds and shit, but now you go high dex/fulldex on any physical dps character basically.

Also, for highlander there's the two handed sword attribute that gives +50% bonus to your Critical attack values. A Single lv 7 yellow gem gives +470 CA. A 3 slots two handed sword could give you +1410 Critical attack + highlander's passive = 2115 critical attack. No str in the world can make up for the loss of this boost so you go DEX to ensure you crit everytime
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is ToS still region blocking Indonesia?
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>>171438401
>Again Fedi removed just because
Why we should care about /tosg/?
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>>171451409
Sorry, that was my mistake, anon. When the thread's about to hit the bump limit, please remind the next OP about adding you back to the list.
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>>171448829
>Vertical swing is the skill that I don't have much experience, but it has a weird mod of scalling % that increase with the amounts of debuffs your target has... and it's also slash, we need someone more experienced on this. it deals one hits with two OH only, but it hit's like a truck, 50k+ VS is a common thing when killing bosses and the party throws a lot of debuffs on it

You forgot to mention it "Deals additional damage on medium and large-type enemies according to how much their defense has been decreased by [Skull Swing]." That skill has some fucking crazy crits.
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>>171450001
>str in the world can make up for the loss of this boost
But they get crit attack from str toot? If it's boosted by 50% also, is there no slight dip in crit rate for the increase in crit damage that would be better?
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>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fP4G1JjL2pj6wMfpL_3o9pFWYIKpr3QnYgQ-XTfK21k/pubhtml#
Lv 230 HG Bookworks or whatever they are called drops both Cannon and Leather bottom
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Skills you have to charge the levels of should get full damage at 1 charge and each further charge should stack the damage again
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whats the point of 2h swords giving negative magic attack if magic users cant even weild 2h swords?
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>>171453750
red gems and MM
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>>171453832
red gems? i dont get it. those give maximum attack. how is that related to magic attack?

MM? magic missle? for what?
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why imc say new items can have 4 slots when armor pieces are capped at 2 slots....
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Kinda missing old DPK for this dagger
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>>171453979
Just use a -matk sword when an Inquisitor uses malleus on you and then laugh at them
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>>171447646
Do you have a number beside your name on the left that is in the single digits?
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>>171453979
>those give maximum attack. how is that related to magic attack
Exactly
>those give maximum attack
>Not Physical attack
>Not Magical attack
>M.a.x.i.m.u.m. attack.

This means maximum physical attack and maximum magical attack. In magic's case, this is the same as it giving mamp, since normally and with blue gems magic max and min grows at the same rate, however you get maximum magic attack with red gems while keeping your minimum magic attack the same. Why mamp is even a seperate stat, I don't know, but I doubt IMC knows anymore either.

>MM? magic missle? for what?
Malleaus M-whatever that inquisitors use that makes you take additional damage based on your magic attack. If you have like 4 level 7 red gems in your special hunting grounds sword, you're basically a mage.
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>>171454360
so all of that just because of one skill?

thanks for spoonfeeding me
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>150 hats later, ive moved on to bigger and better things

GUYS HELP I THINK I HAVE A PROBLEM

I NEED AN ADULT
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>>171454557
Maybe. I mean linkers and equipment can also give you int which also increases matk, thaum can increase your matk, and you can use skill scrolls that do magic damage with your boosted matk. So maybe it's to prevent you being a spell slinging swordsman too. I mean it's just 2 swords though, it's most likely just pvp equipment.
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>>171454737
A-are you collecting cards?
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You guys said it was easy to get monster gems. wheres my monster gems fgts?
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>>171448470
>If people wanted to PvP en masse there'd be more of a completely broken and unplayable mode
You did see PvPers gathering and making guilds until IMC ruined it. According to you, nobody wants to do PvE either, or even play the game at all. Fuck off and play a single player game.

>>171454737
Don't you have alts for more storage space?
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>>171454885
>nobody wants to do PvE either
This is true. since everything costs so much, everyone just wants to run moneymaking dungeons and afk. This entitles newer playerbase of mmos just wants to rush to max level, declare the game beaten and move on. No one wants to do anything.

>Fuck off and play a single player game.
Single player games with online modes aren't mmorpgs. 2v2, 5v5, and 1vs 15 aren't mmorpgs either. pvp isn't even rpg. It's just pointless moba minigames. No one would even do that if not for abrasives and panda points.

>IMC ruined it
Ruined it how? Neutrality option isn't stopping anyone from not making their guild neutral. Where are the pvpers who don't ever go neutral and fight all the other pvpers?
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>>171454864
Think of "cards" in RO. Yes that's their exact drop chance.
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>>171455138
I am pretty sure they were just .01% which isn't especially low.
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>>171454832
im collecting saalus cards (not tomb lord) and random cards like merge / honeypin / reflect magic cards (which are on my main have like 25 of those)

>>171454885
that is my only alt, who has been a work in progress now for half a year. i dont have competence in IMC though so i havnt unlocked rank 8 yet, for all i know when rank 9 comes id of chosen wrong... (trying my best not to make another alt just for cards but its heading that way...)
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It always amazes me how such a small number of faggots manage to post so much shit.
Someone might see this general and think the game is actually alive.
Under 3k soon homo's
Then what.
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Someone farm me a non dpk tanu flower
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>>171455325
Then it'll still be in the top 10 most populous mmos on steam
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>>171455287
Bingo. 1/10000 basically.
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>Item sold notice pops up
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We need to find out how new drop system exactly works
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>>171455108
>aren't mmorpgs
What does that have to do with what you quoted?
>pvp isn't even rpg
Now you've gone full retard. You don't even know what RPG means.
>No one would even do that
PvP in ToS was more popular before it had rewards than it was after rank 8 came out.

>Neutrality option isn't stopping anyone from not making their guild neutral.
Yes it is, dumbfuck. The current neutrality means you're blocked from grouping with members of enemy guilds (even though the steam page advertises grouping with them as a feature), and you're at a big disadvantage compared to other guilds for world bosses, farming equipment, and leveling alts. No competitive guild can afford to do that while other guilds are avoiding it.

>Where are the pvpers who don't ever go neutral and fight all the other pvpers?
Futureproof just declared two wars this week. Their founder quit to play an older game that actually has PvP. People who want MMORPG PvP will play games that have it, and ToS isn't one of those anymore.

>Ruined it how?
Where have you been? This post is already too long and I'm not going to rewrite an essay you can read from dozens of other people on the forums.

The frost pillar crashes alone make all large group PvP unplayable unless you count crashing back to the desktop as playing. The crashes in Crimson/Lotus matches put an end to the last scrap of action GBL had.

>>171455325
>113 IPs last thread
You're amazed how 3,180 concurrent players (which implies tens of thousands of total players) can produce 113 shitposters? Most shitposters don't even play the game. This thread only requires 1% of that small number of faggots.
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>>171456918
>RPG means
It means playing a role, some shit a cosplaying pver does more than some pvp shitter.
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Who ktos here? Post appraiser build
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>>171445787
It steals block from people you hit. It's one of the hidden reasons why Lancers are secretly OP.
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>>171457384
like nobody.
no, people say its weak.
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>>171457310
Were "pve" and "pvp" reversed due to typos in your post? PvPers get into it and take things that happen to their characters personally, which leads to (frequently unintentional) roleplaying all the time. PvErs are a bunch of mechanical metagamers who don't care about roles or immersion at all. PvErs don't cosplay; they just wear whatever has BiS stats. Almost all MMORPGs have some form of PvP.
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>>171457980
And before anyone says PvPers just take BiS stats, see swaaz and his fucking sword.
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Is the Comfy guild in Telsiai still active?

Just looking for a guild, feel free to invite my character with the team name Pan.
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So lemme get this straight about the unnanounced changes to Gohei

1. No longer works on Murm helmet
Even though it's zero cooldown and all they needed to do was put it back on.
Even though it was sometimes the only actual option to be able to damage a guy in some matchups

2. No longer works on Safety Zone
Even though... that wasn't a complaint?

3. STILL works on Counterspell even though it was the one thing that SHOULD'VE been changed so that Gohei doesn't fuck it over
So Miko Plague Doctors continue to be assholes

It's like IMC intentionally does the opposite of everything they should do.
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>>171457980
>get into it and take things that happen to their characters personally,
That's called being an autist, not roleplaying.
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>>171460976
What if you're roleplaying as an autist?
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>>171461068
You will eventually reach a point where you have to question yourself if you're really just pretending.
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>>171461068
thats called autisception
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So, is the game worth coming back to now or is all we got those qt archer sailor costumes?
Also
>Futureproof(ApplyAFineHorse3)
what the fuck, that's a literal who
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>>171463013
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=874
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>>171463118
Those news sound like a No.
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Toppest cuck.
Medals are untradable and you can't buy costumes which you can't use.
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>>171454098
Took people 4-5k kills on klaip to get one.
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>>171465671
Took me less than 200 kills
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Every time I switch weapons I get the "New collection item obtained" popup.
Why are IMC devs so dumb?
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Every time I get a blue gem, a million recipes come up. At least you can just go put your weapon into the collection.
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>>171458914
It is active but only full of the clique members
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Katzenführer my dude do you remember how much HP that guild raid Manticen you tried to kill recently had?
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Cannon2 or App1Merg1 for Wugu3?
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>>171470341
Rougue2
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>>171470341
Cannon 2 is the new topmeme. Really really good to for Wugu which usually just plops down their puddle. So you can go set-up your bazooka afterwards.
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>locked out of "endgame content" because I can't decide what to play/invest into
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>>171471120

My case is 90 days trying to open a prac box
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>>171472709
shitty excuse
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I played ToS at launch but got burnt out after a couple months, has the game changed majorly since then? I had a Wiz3/Elememe3/Necro1, is this build still playable? I don't mind rerolling if not. Thanks.
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>>171469026
if its a guild boss hunt it should start around 200mil then add close to 100-150 mil per person
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>>171473728
You fucked up hard back then going Wiz3Ele3NECRO1
Now it's even more trash
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>>171473897
Guild Boss Hunts start from 2m
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>>171473728
It's a lot better now. But you may want to create anew character while waiting for a rank reset.

Necro is more of an afk money making class these days. Or just carry thru since flesh cannon is still strong. Just got to put up being a "unique" build
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So, I played this game when launched and gave a time because yes. Thinking in come back now. Checked my char that was in Orsha and noticed the city was pretty empty, is like this in the others servers too? I'm really tempted in give another run but a dead server is discouraging
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>>171473897
Probably something like:
Base HP * ((number of people + 1) / 2)
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>>171474319
Most of the players are on Telsiai.
Klai is still alive.
Orsha and Fedimian are dead.
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>>171474583
Orsha and Fedimian never been alive
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>Haven't played since update yet
>Check market first thing
>Battle Bracelets aplenty, and dropping

Beautiful.

Also why did my inventory get reorganized in order of when I got an item?
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>did mercenary post mission with a BUILD OF KANGZ wizard

Either he's an experienced player doing it for the shits and giggles or he is a very misled new player
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>wake up
>the gem you ALWAYS wanted is in the market for 600k

dpk removal was the best thing ever
thanks kim, next one I'll buy is the frost pillar gem
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>>171473936

was better than warlock 1 for r7 imo

you know that warlock is trash besides farming low mobs right? flesh canon outdps DT in aoe and even in single target (lower cd)
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>>171476653
Bad then people were hoping warlock2 would be good.
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I'm back from my break, where is everybody?
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^ kys
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>>171477247
you are cute
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>>171477247
Wugushi got buffed!

Everyone is slowly getting back in the game.
ALIVE GAME!
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>>171477247

Come back to CnL cutie we love you
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someone post a pd using incineration gif or webm please
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>>171469026

2 birrion

The day previously we tried to kill Honeypin, accidentally entered with 4 people and it had 500m HP. Thought about trying it out again with just 1 elite party but judging from the rewards of the current events from other guilds' report its not really worth it.
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>>171463013
Is that you, Sparn?

Literally all of the old FP left.
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>>171481007
No, there's still Dmn and Simony!
Though to be fair I think the only reason they haven't left is that they've been there for so long they physically took root into the guild and can't leave now.
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>Hoplitegoon vs Hop2Corsair3Nobi
I don't know anymore which will be my main sword shitter in rank 9
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What happened to the CoffeeHouse guild? It's been a while not lurking here.
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>>171482224
Do they even play anymore? I haven't seen them for a long time.
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>>171482578
They lurk and acively post here
The post above you might be the Rodent himself
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>>171482578
They are playing the game more than FP
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>>171482851
Silence fedicuck FP is alive and well
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>>171482578
Literally the post above you is Capyba's
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>>171480992
What you don't want some rotten fish?!
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>>171482582
We still play but I skip dailies most of the time and I think he does too so unless you happened to be on the map/channel we happen to be farming on you won't see us.
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>>171483782

Nah we'll go for the owl instead.
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>>171483721
Shit... I just reliased that I haven't touched the game in 8 months. Gotta preserve my Monk3.
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>>171484529
which one drops an owl?
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>>171484653

Guild level 14 raid
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So the 230 dungeon is still garbage for exp. Will I really have to alemeth?
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>>171483975
Is Dmn playing another cleric? Did Simony get a pore yet?
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>>171463013
That's Triela.
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>>171463013
>shitty 'FP' not knowing old FP memes
kys boatjewnigger
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>>171484759
Dmn has a Hackapelle now, Simony never found a Pore but two Poras gives the set effect anyway.
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>>171484585
Come back Cave
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>>171484698
So I guess the raid can drop the fish and an owl. Got any pics of the owl is it cute?
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>>171484585
Monk 3 got buffed! Get Inquisitor with it and you will wreck face.
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>>171485031
Holy shit, you 'member ;_;
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>>171484585
I miss my monk
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>>171485614
>ETgoneLEWD
Is your party /tosg/?
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>>171485614
It's gonna take a while to re-download it with my garbo connection ;_;
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>>171486073
Mine's
>weETweet
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>>171486073
>he doesn't ERP during the afk floor.
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>>171485614
Why does she look tired?
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what a shitty party names lol
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>>171487057
too many dickings in a single day
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>it's another silver anvils going to trash before the practonium episode
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what a boring game
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I sort of want to make a Priest3 Chaplain Pardoner3.
I want to max Safety Zone, Deprotected Zone and Cure. Aspersion, Sacrament, Blessing and Exorcise.

When people ask for heals or a resurrection I will just say I didn't put any points in those skills. If they ask for buffs I'll tell to come outside the instance to buy them.
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Does elemental property attack get modified by criticals?
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Yes it adds to your patk.
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>>171492596
Thanks.
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>>171463013
You know you can't resist that cute new sailor uniform. See you soon.

>>171469026
We fought that thing too yesterday, and it had 777,944,000 HP with 4 people (counted as 5 in the dialogue box because of double clicking and bugs).

To anyone else who wants to join, whisper ApplyAFineHorse3, and if I'm not on or don't get the whisper, send a friend request.
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Are there any truth to the rumor that the spawning of the yellow flower is tied to the amount of corpse flower killed?
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>>171494486
You just need to camp gthe channel for 4+ hours
If channel go 0/100 flower spawn timer reset
It spawned for me after 5 hours
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>>171491592
no, ur a boring game!
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>>171495090

>if channel go 0/100 flower spawn timer reset

what
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>>171495891
It's actually how it works
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>>171495090
Smells like bullshit to me, 3 of the 4 flowers I've gotten were by hopping into a 0/100 channel.
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>>171495976

Do I like have people kill 100 flowers in that particular channel or find an empty channel? I'm confused.
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>>171496392
bsically no one knows, probably just random spawn
Camp it
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Threadly reminder to use one of the -3000 magic attack swords so that you take no damage from Malleus and its debuff and the cancer inquisitor build dies out in PvP
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>>171496912
NOOOO
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>join mission
>no hello/goodbye
;-;
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>>171497263
People are only cheerful enough to greet fellow players the first few hundred times.
After it becomes a chore you just want to be done with it and leave as fast as you can...
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Stats for a hopgoon? I was told 50/50/rest dex but that sounds like a meme
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>>171498870
full dex
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>>171498870
The current memeta distribution is "full stat".
Full CON if you're support/swaaz/fan of minigames.
Full DEX if you're a physical damage dealer.
Full STR if you're one of the 4 wugushi/rogues in the server.
Full INT if you're a magic damage dealer and don't bother with futile minigames.
Full SPR is shit because no one plays priests anymore and even if they do ausrine + melstis exists and everything else is irrelevant.
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>Look at new classes
>Want to play again
>Remember the fucking quests
>No longer want to play

I've got that MMO itch though, is there a way to level with no/minimal questing?

Here is a bump as thanks for listening to my bitching.
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>>171501408

anon there's a event running

hit lv 50 ->get the chests
do the lv 50 dungeon up to 80
then go to the lv 80 dungeon
then lv 100 missions in fedmian
then lv 115 dungeon

this event gives a lot of resets and etc, you can make a rank 6 character in two days or less
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>>171501408
Right now is the best time to make a new character.
You can leech exp from a warlock from levels 1-100 and thanks to the event and you'll have a shitload of cookies (+150% exp) and dungeon resets, then just join any parties that are clearing dungeons with vouchers, do missions and you'll get to 200 with zero or minimal questing.
From there you can either grind all the way through to R8 or quest, either way it's pretty fast and should be done with in a couple days.
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Why do random Almeth grinding party chucklefucks harass me while I wait for this goddamn flower to spawn
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>>171501712
>You can leech exp from a warlock from levels 1-100

You can do that? I thought you wouldn't get exp if a party member or monsters aren't in your level range.
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>>171501817
Don't give up
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>>171502183
They're not in for the exp, they're in for the loot.
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>>171499771
Lots of people making wugushi>cannoneer.
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>>171502314

I know that but I thought you got no/very little exp if you kill a monster that's 10 levels below/above yours.

At least that's how it worked when I tried it with a friend back in May.
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>>171501408
I started recently, and you barely need to do any quests. You just have to endure until level 50, and even then you can get a leecher.
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>>171502671
It's 40 levels now
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Anyone been able to farm Pajeets dagger? Seems to be really low rate, almost 2k kills in.
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I fucked up a few cookies so I'm on my two last. 170 DG or burn all my resets left on siaulai missions? Already did a nice stacked 170 room with statue and double voucher, but now I have one hour of cookies left...
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>>171502992
Took me 4200+ kills.
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>>171479557
ready for invite!
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>>171502714
it's +/- 20 levels, then it drops off.
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>>171505103
lol i was just kidding
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>>171501408
You can get to 210 with 0 quests easily now.
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I'm a lvl 130 Krivis 3 cleric 2 and still have this shitty equipment. What's the best gear for someone like me?
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>>171507140

get a five hammer with 5 lv5 red gems and an arde dagger and you're good for a long time
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>>171507140
Invest in making 5 lv5 red (or blue) gems and socket them into a five hammer ( obtainable from the tenet church something dungeon)
for armor I would just use whatever from dungeons.
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What's a trusty silver seller? MMOGAH is on the highside
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>>171507932
whisper Jace
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>>171507680
>>171507620
Is there an easy way to get gems? I could buy the hammer right now but I've seen people put at least lvl 7 gems in there, I have just managed to upgrade a red one to lvl 5
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Use the five abrasives from the event to build you a five hammer, anon!
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>>171508345

The five abrasives from the event will do it.
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>>171508345
lv 5 is good enough for newbies and midgame, lv 6 if you have the means is doable but not necessary. Lv 7 or higher would be used on far better weapons at much higher levels.

Event should give you 5 lv 5 gems from the 5 abrasives.
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318 is too high to get Skill and Stat reset from the event?
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>>171509173
Nope, 320 is too high. 319 can receive all rewards.
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Gonna start a new character while the event is still going on. Is there a sword3 PvE build?
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>all this boxes in one single day

thanks for the event kim, 0 -> 180 in one sit!
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Kim please. I'm up to 9 mythril from this disappointment cube.
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>>171509616
There's a sword3 into fencer3. It's pretty good.
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>>171510230
Is it absolutely necessary for fencer 2 to go into fencer3? I guess I'm just wondering if the increase in power from fencer 2 to 3 is worth a whole circle.
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>>171509898
How?
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>>171509378
Nice, thank you.
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So the last time I played this game wiz was all about taking spells that hit multiple times (specifically frost cloud) because spell damage didn't scale and you just wanted to apply your m.atk as many times as possible. Wiz3>Ele3 was the go-to build. Is this still true?

Also swordsman was really underpowered back then. Did it get buffed so it's actually useful in groups?
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>>171511412

It's the same general principle but Warlock2 ended up being garbage and there's an OP necklace for fire spells so Pyromancer is the new meme.

Swordsmen get mega buffed, dopple is the best funded dps and dragoon is great too
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>>171510682
If you want to dps with fencer/pierce skills, yes c3 is imperative. What did you have in mind?
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>>171512394
I was looking into starting a character that uses 1handed swords as my swordsman since I don't want to play dragoon and I don't want to invest too much into a doppel.

but something about fencer is unappealing to me.
I'm thinking about murmillo but I don't know how I feel about taking 3 circles of rodolero since it's apparently hell to level.
And shinobi, in which case I'd take 2 circles of fencer or whatever other meme there is.
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>>171511131

instance reset vouchers
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>>171512890
Nothing in this game is hell to level except maybe for full support clerics such as Oracle 3 and Kabba 2 wen you can't get grind parties, which nobody uses in real content because they are bad compared to other options both in supportive ability and damage.
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Do people go the lvl 120 Sauiusai uphill or whatever dungeon? I waited for like 30 minutes and no one came
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>>171515924

uphill = premade, always
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>>171516118
What classes usually get in?
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>>171513765
>they are bad compared to other options both in supportive ability and damage
;_;
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>>171516217
There's no real meta for uphill. You just need to be able to kill things fast enough, and if you're not a cleric you have to focus on getting orbs so you can heal the torch.
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>>171516217

people just go diev miko + a lot of fillers, including someone at low level: the stance balances out based on the level of the people inside so bringing a low lv like 125 helps lot to make the stance easier for the 300+guys
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anime tiddies
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>tfw too smart and skilled to aim before shooting
>tfw firing the perfect arrow is so easy that you feel bored while melting your enemies with no effort

So why aren't you playing Wugu yet?
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Where do I level up at 200?
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>>171519106
DG200 and grinding at Alemeth Forest in a party.
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>>171519069
You're almost convincing me.
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https://tos.neet.tv/items/628241
https://tos.neet.tv/items/628106
How big are these hats in relation to the character's head? I may get a couple goddess cubes, but I really want a feathered hat that is actually a hat and not some shitty miniature.
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>>171520893
comically huge.

i'm lying i've never seen this hats worn
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Do I need to be female to do the miko quest? Isn't there a male version? Kannusi or something?
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>>171522293
Yes, you can only do the quest if you're female. You need an Oracle to change your gender in order to become Kannushi.
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>Get burnt out on solo grinding and network issues during beta
>Don't play for 10 months
>Character is on Orsha
>Didn't properly minmax my stats
>Cleric 2, Diev Paladin lvl 104

Is there anyway to transfer to the more populated server? I really don't feel like playing if my character is now stuck in a ghost town.
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>>171523204
>lvl 104

That's nothing, takes maybe 6 hours if you are brand new.
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>>171523465
What did they change it to make leveling super fast?
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>>171523813

people learned how to play the game
and dungeons and missions got buffed
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>>171523465
Not if you're new it doesn't. Takes probably a couple of days if you're new and don't have any reset vouchers.
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Are the 170 purple weapons good enough to take you to your 315 weapon? I don't feel like killing 20 million things for a brandish
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>>171525161
you are right.

it takes 2 days. i guess 12 hours of actual playtime?
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>>171525414

woops, forgot to mention I meant the hunting ground purples
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>>171525414

brandish recipe is dropping like easily

but what class do you play? if you're hop 3, the spear throw bonus damage spear works forever
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>>171525983

I'm on a ded server so no one sells the geras spear, I tried hunting brandish but didn't get anything
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I just paid for a 15k repair
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anyone have a link to an updated exp calculator?
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>>171526643
Do people actually care about a few thousand? You make that much per monster you kill, I got better shit to do than hop around channels searching for the cheapest squire.
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>>171527983

I usually don't care for even 5k repairs, but 15k on a wizard ring was clearly a scam
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>>171528083
>Charging whatever you want for your services is a scam
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>>171527983
Really depends, i don't care if it's above no profit. but some squires are fucking jews, charging 20k for weapon buffs or repairs. fuck that shit. even if i make 3m a day i'm not gonna pay that much cause it annoys me.
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>>171528216
Teach me your secrets senpai!
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Fwee etc.
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>>171533162
etfwee.
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Synchro thrust's pierce increase attribute is able to be toggled, right?
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>>171534915
Yes. It's quite an interesting attribute, actually. It adds +50% on the entire attack, including base values.
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now that we have a lot of wugu memes, someone, please, buy a cockatrice gem and get dm for that lv 3 bewitch!
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Can we, like, stop dying?
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>>171538676
I want to but I ran out of things to really talk about. Log in, kill mobs, engage in shitty PvP if I feel like it, log out. Practically a single player game to me.
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>>171538987
I feel you. Take cute screens of your main and post em here.
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how to get from 319 to 330? ow many cards do yo need? how much do you need to grind timerys before you use them?
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>>171540106

I did 6 full clears of 290 starting at 290 and the quest maps besides the 5 floors of the rape caves gave me enough to just barely hit 330. I never did any timerys grind. If you do kill counts you shouldn't have an issue.
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>>171540431
>I did 6 full clears of 290 starting at 290
With or without an 8x exp tome
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>>171540702

It was a while ago so I don't remember, but I don't think it was with 8x - it may have been with cookies though. You have the fortune cookies from the event (not this guy in particular, but in general for people at 290) and sweet boy buff to help. The Lv14 cards from kill counts give an insane amount.
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>>171447495
So is Cartar stroke 3 enough for the purpose? Or do i get anything from higher ranks?
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I'm sick of non retarded builds, but I'm not sure how to do these two blanks.

This is what's happening https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#111644c

which do
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11164442c
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11164466c
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11164422c
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11164419c
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>>171541541
just go squire
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>>171541541
>https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11164442c
>No rod3 murm
pls kys
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>>171538987
>engage in shitty PvP
kim wont let us do even that sometimes
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>>171541616
shop builds are no good.

although might go HL templar and just have it sitting around.
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Are Kabbalists for PVP? I'M looking at it's skills and don't see much use, looks like a meme class.
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>>171542919
Yeah it's a meme 1 point dip for PvP and that's about it. A lot of the power of 2nd circle is in the attributes and not the skills, but overall the class suffers from Priest syndrome; being a defensive buff class in a game with perma invincibility combo that also dramatically boosts damage.
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>>171542258
Sorry, that was a joke.
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#113668889..3545

Is pelt1barb2cor3dop1 a viable "I want to farm4ever" build?
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>>171544683
funny way of saying thaumaturge
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>>171544683
>DPE
>Corsair
>good farming kits
LOL
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let me borrow your flower hons before you quit, someone
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>Farming Sauga for the pistol
>get these
Are them any good for Doppels or it's all about Cyclone?
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>>171545792
You aren't going to get the recipe to craft a Mystical Cube, why you care?
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>>171545869
I'm a quest competitionist and journal freak.
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>>171545869
CNL is 1 level away from the recipe!
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>>171546565
>tfw my guild is 5 level away and won't get any close to lv 16 before Practonium itself become obsolete, if i gets lv 16 at all
Reminder Practonium, the weapons crafted with it and Mystical Cubes were the solution thought by IMC to help casual players catching up HARDCORE ET Raiders with their Solmiki weapons
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>>171546936
>before Practonium itself become obsolete
That's like Venier becoming obsolete. They are really good weapons.
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>>171517391
that's so cute
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>>171547043
The only reason Venier isn't obsolete is the +2 Fencer Skills and the only alternatives are Lolopanther/Solmiki Rapier
Any Practornium Weapons will most likely be replaced by rank 9 purple shit or eve blue shit, real issue is what kind of Practonium 2.0 bullshit rank 9 is gonna have
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>>171547295
Judging from the history of this game, the best you can expect is something that is to the purple weapons what Karacha is to Arde and then some retarded unobtainable ShaffenStar weapons.
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>>171547043
>>171547295
I sure hope nothing truly becomes obsolete. I hate the idea that higher lvl weapons = better weapons that MMOs like to follow.
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>>171547438
So you basically hate RPGs and dungeon crawlers. I'd understand if you just hated the "items locked by level" system instead.
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>>171547295
>Any pract weapons will most likely be replaced by rank 9 purple shit or even blue shit

Do people still believe this when we're still using mostly Lolopanther, Grynas, and Virtov armor and the same r7 accessories? We'd still be using Cata clubs pre-pract too if they hadn't updated gems to where five hammer fell through the cracks and became OP, this isn't like WoW and other MMOs where your old gear immediately becomes obsolete with expansion, it's likely we will just jump from Pract weapons to another type of weapon equally rare.
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>>171547651
I can't wait until some update makes the OG memehammer(toyhammer) relevant again.
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If they wanted to make Practonium really a "casual welfare" shit then they should have added another complete Mystical Cube somewhere and not locking it behind something only top guilds can do, actually they should have just made Practornium a drop from boss/monster
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>>171546565
If Recipe-Mystical Cube is really lv 16Guild Raid reward thats one of the biggest fuck up made by IMC
Especially after their official statement on Mystical Cube
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=849
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>>171547635
Well that is kind of what I meant. I like it when a level 15 weapon can be relevant at level 200+ or so for example, because of a special effect it will give. Locking it by rarity instead of level
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>>171548204
yeah but there are other options like requiring certain stats or just not having levels at all and letting you use whatever when you get it.
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>>171547043
There's no practonium rapier, faggot. Do you think the circle rod isn't obsolete? Rank 9 weapons with the new material will be straight upgrades.

>>171547651
Hasta replaces old armor. The only reason you don't see everyone wearing it is there's not enough of it dropping. Weapons, unlike armor, will be available to everyone for the reasons you saw in the PrinceKen interview. Everyone switched to agny except full rhevisan stackers, who don't have a rank 8 equivalent.

>pre-pract
Which means they get replaced by practonium. Which means you're wrong. Rank 8 was a clear switch over to the WoW system where item levels replace character levels and each new content release needs a way for players to gain stats so they don't think "it's not worth doing this new stuff."
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>>171548763
And yet hunting grounds lets you get 4slot 120-220 weapons you can use even longer than 5 hammer
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I thought 3 star clear vouchers exist now, since a fuckton of dungeons are 3 stars now.
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>>171548902
Not a single HG drop replace any Practonium weapon but the 220 Dagger because Practonium daggers aren't that better to justify the use of Practonium for them
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>>171548486
Maybe for a single-player game, yeah. I can't very well see that working for a mmorpg
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Can someone redpill me on catacombs blade?

Should i get it asap after i reach lvl 170?
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>>171549035
It works well. Actually this is the first mmo I've played in a while that had level based item requirements.
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>tfw i want to craft every possible orange weapon for my main and most relevant alts
>tfw not enough Practonium
What are the best ways to make mad cashes not related to Lock2?
>tfw still probably need to roll a Lock2
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Fuck this broken map bullshit. I was going to start questing but now I can't even fucking know where I've been and where I'm going whenever I leave. How do they even break this shit? What kind of dumbass game has a hidden minimap anyway? remove that shit and increase killcount cards.
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>>171549828
Oh yeah, and I know there's a fog remover cheat mod. what's it called?
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>>171549894
Search for the addon manager on github by Excrulon. It has all the good addons on it.
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>>171550164
can I install them separately?
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>>171550206
Yeah
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Put on my shield
>1 damage
Take off my shield
>800 damage
game pls
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>Got a Vubbe blood while casually strolling through a hunting ground

Damn, now if only the hunting ground Galoks weren't 3 on a 20min respawn timer.
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>>171549894

I thought that thing doesn't work anymore
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>>171551416
>Got 7 vubbe blood in 2 days vs 1 vubbe blood in a year.
This shit sells for 100k now.
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>>171551684
Still works for me
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>>171551916

The press one button and map 100% thing?
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Silver mobs in hunting grounds are pretty sweet, especially since IMC fixed the stupid item pickup lag.
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>>171552590
Oh, no. The one that makes fog into red boxes.
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>>171552598
this picture gives me flashbacks of being full and unable to move because all the items kept trying to be collected and failing. When is imc gonna fix that?
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>>171552938
That happened to me again today, I think it's too uncommon for IMC to notice.

Something relatively miniscule that I reported on the forum got fixed (two months afterwards), but surely someone's reported this before, right?
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https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=887
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>Rebalanced High-Level Monster Stats
>- The stats of 300 species of monsters in high-level maps have been rebalanced.
>- Stats affected: Maximum HP, Attack, Magic Defense.
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>>171553932
>300 species
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>>171553734
>removed DPK
>nerfed 300+ mobs
Thanks IMC for killing eonomy for sake of dumbing the game donwn for Kiritos
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>>171554978

>killing economy

nigger what
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>>171555078
rare mats price will drop high now that they will be a lot easier to farm
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>>171554978
I like how buttdevastated early adopters of orange weapons are.
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>>171555126

>more items available to buy and sell from the market

And this kills the economy how?
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>>171555136
desu getting 3-4 people to helpyou farming these mats was fun
But i guess general playerbase wants the solo experience
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>>171555136
I solo farmed one orange without thauma and don't mind the changes. It just means that I can get second easier.
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>>171555246
Not everyone can get 3-4 people who would be willing to help consistently. I couldn't, so I farmed silver instead and bought materials when they were available, which was slow. More people will be willing to try to make oranges now and more people will be able to farm them. Win-win.
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>>171555179
Anon will not personally make as much profit. This kills the economy.
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Pajoritas Dagger has some ungodly drop rate, right?

I got this Small Crystaras, is 2 sockets the max any dagger can get? Might just go with this.
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My uncle works at IMC, and he said they're bringing back DPK this week.
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>>171555920
Why do you even need sockets on a dagger?
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>>171555920
>Pajoritas Dagger has some ungodly drop rate, right?
Yes, most of the drops happens in the range of 4k kills
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>>171556000
OwO thank for infromation anon!
I must quickly buy all the cheap orange mats before the rpices rise again!
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>>171556050
For physical DPS the answer should be obvious
For magic users you can put monster gem in them
For physical 1 socket Pajoritas is fine imho
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>>171556074
:^)
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>>171556225
And then it was 1 socket :^)
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>>171556347
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ok so i want to get into this game i just have no idea how to build a character

can someone like give me some basic ass shit to work with that will help me learn the game or direct me somewhere with like a build list

i just dont wanna fuck up my first character and quit the game cause its garbage
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>>171556050
My Fencer3 would absolutely love a dagger with more green gems to socket.

>>171556074
Oof, not worth the 1 socket risk either. And, well, Small Crystaras looks better too, Pajoritas Dagger is like a small shovel. Thanks.
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>see silver rubblem
>use swell body
>kill it
>it doesn't drop prakeh pants or pajoritas dagger
>all i got was 2 rubblem core and 2 rubblem fragments

this drop rate is ungodly what the fuck
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>>171556873
I think dpk drops are still registered as dpk, except they set it to 0 kills. The kill range of dpk items is what makes them drop randomly. It's sad that silver and gold mobs don't drop their loot.
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Didel Tower Shield or Pajeet Shield?
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>>171557604
Didel is better. And nobody knows what drops the pajeet shield.
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>>171556490
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner

>and quit the game cause its garbage
well i mean thats probably going to happen anyways, but heres the class planner
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>>171557604
Didel, no contest
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Good build?
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>>171557671
>>171557712
Thanks!
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>>171558014

No, you sorta need 5 in gay bulge for the attribute. Sorta.
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>>171558302

What's that attribute actually do? The description makes it sound like shit
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>>171558505
It increases party members' attack and defenses by 2% around where you throw it
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>>171558505
the attribute of Gae are shit but Gae itself apply a +25% physical damage debuff on everything it hits, the debuff gain +1 second per skill level
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>>171558675
Which is all kind of shitty and has a shit uptime.
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>>171558726

Is it bugged or something? I've literally never seen anyone use it or take it and that seems weird to pass up 25% damage
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>>171558840
The debuff works but it's not reported in the skill description and most people don't even know it exist
Also as a skill is fucking awkward to land and most of the people it will just miss thetarget
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Can cuteboys unlock miko advancement NPC? Like can you get all the spirits while male.
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>>171560668
You can even do the prequest as a non-cleric, all hidden class prequests are like that.
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Are battle bracelets still a gorrillion silver ?
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>>171563246
They were at 5mil on Klai yesterday I think.
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>>171556124

there's no monster gem for wizard/clerics that goes into the dagger slot

I think that the only use for dagger slot on magic dps classes is the blue gem when you have the stone skin buff (allow block without shield), but I"m still not sure if it helps
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>8m for a pajeet dagger two slots

worth it?
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>>171564672
Honestly too expensive, damage difference probably isn't even noticeable unless you're a Chaplain or QS3.
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???
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>>171558840
That's because you lose time using that skill from the correct, fixed range and then picking up the spear. Since people are autistic fucks who only care about personal damage, they pass up that extra party wide damage in favor of personal DPS.
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>>171565138
Old debuff PD build.
Focuses on stacking debuffs to increase incineration's duration, further prolonging their effects with discerning evil and the gimmicky restoration + healing factor combo.
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>>171564803

I'm Fencer, Epee garde (+140%) multiplicate elemental damage too when we crit... plus the awakening rolls for pajeet are stronger and well, Dagger's potential are basically for awakening only
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>>171565425
Even with multipliers you're not looking at that much extra damage, maybe a few hundred per hit for 8mill when you could dump that into attributes.
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>"sempai noticed my cheap repairs"
>42k
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>rolling Nuale cube
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Why is the MMORPG genre dead, anon?
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>>171439561
you look like kora
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>>171556124
>For physical 1 socket Pajoritas is fine imho
Retard, you'd be better with 2 socket Crystaras.
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>>171556873
You tell me.
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>>171570483
Not much of a difference unles you need crit rate in off hand
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>>171570618
>a level 6 red gem is 145 pure physical attack
>not much of a difference
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>>171570721
The only case i think it won't be much of a difference is with Corsair since they actually use the dagger itself with their damage skills
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>>171571063
The red gem adds to both main and secondary attack.
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>>171571129
Yes but the dagger itself has higher stats so
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>>171570391
World of Warcraft.
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>>171571350
Dropping since the end of wrath...?
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Dying
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Which class is the best damage dealer right now?
I havnt played in months and have a Hop3 lv 150 and a QS3 lvl 120.

How do people get to lvl 330 in a week?
Doing all quests took hours for me.
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>>171576190
There's no need to do quests anymore (to level up). You can just grind your way to R2 killing hanamings then grind at Tenet Garden until you're level 50. After that, the way to the endgame becomes easy. You just need to level up in IDs, Mercenary Post missions and grinding maps like the new hunting grounds.
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>>171576786
So do you do all quests for the free stat points after you got to lvl 330?
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>>171576875
Whenever you want. Most people make their characters on Klaipeda (starting city, not the server) because there's more quests that gives bonus stat points.
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>>171576786
>There's no need to do quests anymore (to level up)
Until 240, that's it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39TbRgS58RY

Elememes totally on suicide watch.
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>>171577070
Would say the server too
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>>171577456
Why? You'll still have storage, maven, timerys ID 230, 260 and 290. After that you can still grind at jeromel park too.
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>>171579792
Grinding at those levels is way less efficient, especially when you start getting lv 12+ cards.
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>>171577526
This needs to be nerfed!
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>>171577070
Everyone will backtrack yellow quests anyway. I find Orsha a lot more bearable to do since I'm already fed up with Klaipeda. Also zones are comfier.
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What when even these 60.2 players quit?
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>psychokino's homunculus casts both raise AND magnetic force

wow
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I just redownloaded the game and I encountered some bugs. Some people said it was cause of the add-ons so I've deleted them all. What's the list of add-ons that I should take or won't give me bugs?
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>>171582910
The biggest bug was redownloading the game, hit unistall to fix it
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>>171583249
Helpful
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Capyba, do you recruit lazy anons?
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>>171584613
Of course he does, capybaras are lazy animals.
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Are you Discords down too now?
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>>171585409
Yes.
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Is discord dead
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>>171585460
my server just came back online now
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my anvils are expiring in mere hours and still no pract. Fuck this game.
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Alright, be honest, who here has spent money since early access launched?

Most games I'd normally find enough appreciable updates to justify it, but ToS, well. I'd say we've come a long, long way since then at least, and things get fixed albeit slowly.
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>next week will be exactly one year of ToS
Fuck
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>>171588259
I spent $10 when the meido outfit came out. Haven't spent a dime since.

>>171588350
My one year is coming up, too.
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>>171588259
Anyone who pays more than once for any game is an idiot. You bought it once, why the fuck would you pay for it again while you already own it?
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>>171588123

got mine now after almost 4 months
thanks kim
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Been a while since I've been on this general. Is hook64 dead? Is there another hack? Back when I was playing a couple months back, everyone and their mothers were using hook64
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>>171589473

only dirty americans
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>>171589473
hook is killed
It died when the author got tired of milking ToS and moved on
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>>171589603
Wasn't he the one who released the channel crashing thing like a month or two ago?
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>>171589603
oh huh. that's unfortunate. /aoe/ made the game tolerable.
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>>171589723
yes, right before quitting the scene
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>>171588350
>>171588630
>>171588664
It makes me wonder if IMC is still coasting off of however much they made from early access before the majority of those people quit, or if there really has been enough new players buying into the game.
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>>171590103
>still coasting off of however much they made from early access before the majority of those people quit,

If only they had done the staggered release or had something ready for the 2 weeks of open access they had 50k players they might actually be able to coast. I've never seen any company so reluctant to make money.
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>>171590567
It seems like they wanted to make a difference and get rid of the stigma of korean mmos being a p2w cash grab. Well-intentioned folks, but really incompetent overall.
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>>171588350
Whats happening in the webm?
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>>171590567
If they did the staggered release, they might have been able to handle all the server issues better yeah. No matter how much money they got right off the bat, they just weren't prepared to handle all those players on top of the game's inherent problems.

The free TP from guild battles was still more of them not wanting money, amongst other things. IMC's always slow to react to problems.
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>>171591843
That's how babies are made
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>>171592058
>they might have been able to handle all the server issues better yeah.
The only way they could is by getting more/better ones. At this point if we got a sudden 5k boost, the servers would probably die.
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No time for Discord technical problems. Post cute characters, now!
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Is there a map of all the interact-able pots in Fedimian?
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>>171593332
>off by one
FUCK.
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>>171593332
>shitting in a field of flowers
kinda cute
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>>171593332

>red eyes
>katana
>sailor suit

I like your aesthetics.Shame there's not much katana-like swords in the game.
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>>171593332
Here, have an old screenie.
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Which guild should I ask to join? CnL is full right?
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>>171594171
Join futureproof!
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>>171594317
whats the consensus on futureproof?
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>>171594503
oldFP is ded, was ok.
cunts'FP was shit but is gone.
FP reborn can be ok, little dead tho.
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>>171594503

For all the so-called "fun" they advertise, Cats is honestly one of the most boring person I've ever had the chance to talk to.
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>>171593809
It sucks! Plus, all of them are low lvl. This character's going to be a shinobi, so I'll probably use a Tilly Two-Handed Sword until I get a Gale Slasher for her.

Are there any new katana-like swords in ktest yet?
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>>171594730
>they advertise
please...
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>>171594730
what entertainment do they advertise?

>>171594632
how dead is little dead? this seems like a really dumb question intuitively.
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>>171595145
people say they have 3-6 members online or something
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>>171594742

Have you considered getting an alchemist to reskin your shit to look like katanas?
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>>171595228
wow that is abysmally low. I wonder if it's any fun
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>>171595456
Yes, but I can only use weapons with same or higher number of stars to transfer their skin to another.
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>>171595758
>>171595145
>>171594730
>FUN*tm
is a meme and its also posted by non-FPs

>>171595815
just use that bug and get banned :^)
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>>171596487
>just use that bug and get banned :^)
Shut up it's not a bug it's working as intended
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>>171596559
sure, see you soon L****o K*******g
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what a boring general
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>>171595758
This is ToS, that's pretty normal by now.
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>>171596684
>>171596487

Memes aside was anyone banned for this?
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>>171596487
Wait. What bug?
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>>171596952
not yet

>>171596956
something something use any star weapon as skin something something
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>>171596764
this

waiter id like my drama now please
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Who is the most fun person in all of /tosg/?
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>>171597129
Julie!
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>>171597129
mother fucking John - teh pranksta
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how long this event will last
one more week?
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What's the most fun legit build, /tosg/? All damage ends up being the same, so what has the best combo of interesting buffs/movement abilities/weird utility/mountable companions?
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>>171598306
>What's the most fun legit build, /tosg/?
depends what is most fun to you.
wtf is with niggas today?
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>>171598306
>All damage ends up being the same

Oops misworded that, I meant it all ends up feeling the same so I don't want it to be the crux of my build.
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>>171598426
Yeah I know it's a vague term, that's why I clarified with

>interesting buffs/movement abilities/weird utility/mountable companions

I got burnt out last time I played because I just made builds based around cool combos of damaging abilities but it got old pretty fast.
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>>171598660
>interesting buffs/movement abilities/weird utility/mountable companions
also depends on what you like...

just do whatever rainbow build if you dont care about good dps/supportskills at 3xx
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>>171598874
>also depends on what you like

I like interesting buffs/movement abilities/weird utility/mountable companions.

>if you dont care about good dps/supportskills at 3xx

>most fun legit build

>legit
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>>171599334
>I like interesting
well ye... what is interesting for me, is maybe not for you. and vice versa
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>>171599334
>movement
chrono runs fast and has buffs and goes with linker or cryo
>that so boring
not to me

bokor and swords also move fast
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>want to be done with daily shit fast today and do other stuff
>5 of 6 are the long shitty saalus maps
FUCKING KIM
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>>171596952
I don't think IMC knows it exists. I doubt people who do it know it's not supposed to be that way either. It's not an exploit or anything.
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>>171600414
I also hope I get my fucking pract so I can make the vien staff look like an evil staff before/if it does get fixed.
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>it's almost April 2017
>he still plays a dead MMO Korean Freemium Game

kek, still got that buttblasted janitor / mod who randomly bans people because of his own autism?

kek, still got those waifufag weeb spammers who want to suck the man cock of their fellow guild members?

kek, still got 24/7 botters who at this point have most likely ruined all of the games economy?

>3000 players
>4 servers
>no content
>balance still fucked
>daily korean chore simulator
horry shit
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What HG drop that's in demand now that sells well but not too hard to hunt?
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>>171601654
good job bro, own'd these faggots
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rate my build

http://irowiki.org/~himeyasha/skill4/mcn.html?10994nafhqkDdBbeededbscH1
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>>171602083
9/11
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>- New story elements:
> * Giedra in Genar Field
> * Lyliana in Klaipeda
> * Kupole Meile at the Coastal Fortress
> * Epigraphist Raymond at Stele Road
> * Fedimian Outskirts
> * Owl statue in Saknis Plains

Anyone found anything to do with these so far? I believe some of these NPCs are new, but some are old and say the same thing they always have.

Realized I'm missing Torn Diary (Part 4) but so were a lot of others and that never got fixed it seems. Hrm.
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>>171601654
second the mod is the cancer of this general, it's really fun when you trigger that retard.
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Realistically speaking, how long would it take per day to do all the daily shit on 3/4characters?
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>>171601654
I will play some Nier after i will have replaced the broken controller of mine senpai
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When we will get this cutedressu?
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>>171604689
nobody knows ;_;
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Hi I quit 6 months ago. What's new? :33333
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A little new to this card stuff. How do i give my card exp?
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>>171606194
Feed it other cards.
Sit down and press 4 to open interface.
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>>171606194
You feed it around 50 other cards.
You need about 400 cards to max cards for one character.

Good luck farming those on this dead game at this stage LMAO
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>>171606567
There are tons of cheapass cards nowadays. Tons of shadowgalers.
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>>171606668
this and farming low dung bosses / WBs for cards is also not bad
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Is the addon thing still compatible with the game? I just came back and already I'm fucking tired of bots messaging me, does the chat extension addon still work?
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>>171607050
Yes.

>>171605636
Not much.
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>>171606567
>>171606401
>>171606668
>>171606814
So 50 cards fodder for 1 card. and I can equip 8 cards in total. so theoretically need 400 cards to feed.
Huh. What are some good cards to have? I remember glass-mole being quite good for melee classes (swordsman, monk).
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Is there any addon that can help clear Miko pre-quest? It's boring and hard as fuck
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what's this thing
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>>171607223
Glassmole for physical DPS, Chapparition for magic DPS, Nuaele for anything else.
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For some odd reason, my collection tab is bugged as well as the npc for collections. Is this one of add-ons fault?
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>>171607593
Secret dungeon, only spawns every 16 hours.
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>>171608182
Yes. remove it.
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How to get cards:

>roll the lv 50 dungeons with alts
>each cube is almost guaranteed to get one card so as soon as you get the card, stop rerolling or go to the next
>if you want to reroll full, you might get a five hammer so sometimes is lucrative
>cubes also drops silver/gold bar to help mitigate rerolling cost
>thanks tos this event, you should have at least +3 character slots for now you little shitter
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>one character needs 400 cards alone
>"j-just buy cheap off market omg!"
>market only has max 50 to 90 cards
>buying all 400 cards would still cost you a fortune

I see this general is still retarded as always.
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>>171608445
>I NEED 8x lv 10 CARDS TODAY!!!!

retard.
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>>171608445
you can farm a lot of them and dont need all maxed cards at all chars

i made a few Lv10s only from WBs + 50/90 runs
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Can you reroll characters in this game yet without real money (pay to win / freemium etc.) with like a long hard quest?
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>>171608767
No.

Well you could if you didnt quit and play in January. They gave a 14 Day Rank Reset to everyone.
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>>171608928
Are you trying to quilt me for quitting this trainwreck?
That'll surely get me back, please keep doing it.

Retard.
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>>171609151
>implying anyone want you back
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>>171609151
You could've check there website or the tosg now and then for events and free stuff like that, but whatever, ye.
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>>171609151
>"I has a question xd" t.returning player
>gives an answer
>"FUCK YOU. IS THIS HOW YOU WANT MORE PLAYERS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
yes, dont come back
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>>171607593
So what was it?
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>>171608445

are you retarded

I used 8x lv 6 Ellaganos cards for weeks until I gradually leveled to 10 each one while enjoying more than half of the damage boost for a affordable price.

You don't need to autistically farm 159 cards to get a 30 dex bonus while you can just spread it to get eight lv 6 cards and enjoy a +48 dex bonus that will make your game much easier so you can gradually farm the rest/go for real better cards like getting a nuaele mix or moles.

it takes 5 tp to remove a card without loss, and guess what, you get 5 free tp from mr kim
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>>171609358
>>171609651
>"w-we don't want you b-back!"
>assravaged cliquefags getting mad again
>next general crying about dead game again
boo hoo hoo

>>171609568
No one comes back to an MMO after quitting it, especially a game like TOS. This is why no MMO ever gets a second chance.

I was only curious, but ye. Didn't expect it tho.
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>>171608445
It costs 10k on average to get a card by running 50s. Each cube is guaranteed one and only one card, so you can stop rolling once you get it.
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>>171610156
>asks a question
>gets an answer
>doesnt like the answer

>triggered
>sound the autistic sirens
>"REEEEEEEEE"
ensue irony.
>"w-we don't want you b-back!"
>assravaged cliquefags getting mad again
>next general crying about dead game again
yes, don't come back
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>>171610347
>you can get 3 cards every day
>it will take you 133 days to get all cards doing this every day

retard.
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>>171610156
>No one comes back to an MMO after quitting it
Bye
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>>171610717
he's not wrong you know
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>>171610631
TOS has a lot of problems and shit, but card leveling is really not one.

kys doomposter

and i made a Lv10 in maybe a week of easy+fast farming on a few chars
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>>171610873
some people do come back.
and hes just another retarded faggot.
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>>171610757
>asks a question
>gets an answer
>doesnt like the answer

>triggered
>sound the autistic sirens
>"REEEEEEEEE"
ensue irony.
>"w-we don't want you b-back!"
>assravaged cliquefags getting mad again
>next general crying about dead game again

>hurting my feelings again
boo hoo hoo
>"no you're triggered!"
>"And you're the one that's autistic! not me!
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>>171610631
>133 days
It takes 0 effort to get throwaway alts to 50 to farm them. Go back to forums, your level of intelligence clearly belongs there.
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>>171611035
he's not wrong and you know no one is coming back
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>>171611280
not true
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>>171611278
this would take hours to do plus what character class can solo the dungeon seeing as the game is dead
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>>171611475
>this would take hours to do
do you even play this game?
>plus what character class can solo the dungeon seeing as the game is dead
ok, you dont.
can you just stop posting or shitpost somewhere else?

solo 90 or 50 is easy+fast as fuck
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>I reply to myself and have arguments with myself to make the general seem not dead
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>>171611569

retard.
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>>171611826
why?
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>>171611569
prove it

show me in a webm or video
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>>171612121
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwM-6jI9qNQ
and that is slow+old

did the same last summer
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>>171611953
Swaaz pretending to be retard to keep thread alive memes. Actually, not even pretending.
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They're making a mobile version of this game right? Any chance it won't be a blunder in every category except art?
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>>171612432
oh maybe, but i dont have a lot else to do too.
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>>171612595
The mobile genre is a blunder. It's literally a genre based on milking idiots for a few months per game.
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>>171612318
that doesn't include leveling to 50 and/or 90, doing the 3 runs and deleting the char to do it all over again in less than an hour so it's a viable thing to do multiple times a day for cards

ergo you're a full of shit retard and the burden of proof is still in your court

0/10 try again
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>>171612318
you aren't guaranteed to get a card per day from 50 or 90 though unless something has changed while I was away
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>>171612975
Rerolling 50 always gives 1 card.
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>>171612975
It's more like 3 cards at least. If you reroll the 50 cube, you're extremely likely to get 1 card per box on average. Also the boss can drop a card too.

Also this event is a good change to make alts, level them, use the dungeon resets, delete, and run more dungeons.
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>>171612845
>leveling to 50 and/or 90
>deleting the char to do it all over again

retard

>>171612975
>unless something has changed while I was away
ye, kinda
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>>171612975
Not sure about 90s, but after rolling over 100 cubes during the chocolate event, the 50 cube does indeed give one and only one card, usually on 2nd roll. 1st roll is usually talt and 3rd is gold bar or some random equipment. There is a chance to get 0 cards, but it is extremely low.
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>>171613290
>always!
>100%!

>>171613357
>likely%
>??%

I can't tell if you guys are genuinely dumb or just bend the truth all the time to make yourselves seem less retarded.

>>171613553
follow the chain of replies before you reply again retard

>>171613591
the discussion was more about that you can redo the 50 as many times as you want a day but anons are too stupid to realize how stupid their earlier posts are so they are goalposting
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>>171613757
>the discussion was more about that you can redo the 50 as many times as you want a day
it was not

>mimi card lvling is hard/slow/bad/expensive
retards
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>>171613872
>it was not

see
>>171610347
>>171611278
>>171611569

and kys retard goalposter
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>Last week
>Check prices for Token
>1.9 million

>Finally manage to get the money
>They now cost 3.4 million

Kill me.
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>>171614125
see these posts yourself. nobody said that.
kys doomcrybabby
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>>171613757
The original discussion was how to get cards quickly. Running 50s was one of the suggestions. No one is telling you to reroll the alt either, even with 0 tp you have 4 char slots, so clearly not 133 days. Keep being willfully ignorant, no wonder you're dead last, can't be arsed to use 1% of your fucking brain.
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>>171570406
That IS Kora
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>>171614870
Impossible. Kora is dead.
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>>171614474
read them again
kys retard
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>>171614382
Apparently that chick that bought Rynn's account occasionally pms's and buys all the tokens with chinese RMT silver.
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>>171608409

Which addon? It's not enhanced collection.
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>>171615792
It's true, Mergen even posted a video of herself doing it
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what are the orange mats with a higher demand? I want to try my luck farming them and selling them in the market so I can buy a practo later that I'll need for my orange
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>>171616656
Weapon mats like Regard Horn, Regard Staff, Heart of Glory.
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>>171617091
what about the sarkmis mats, isn't it really popular?
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>>171598306
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>>171610156
No fuck you I came back and have been going strong since 3 months ago!
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>>171612595
I think the mobile development is smart.

Since mobile phones tend to have smaller and slower resources compared to PCs they will be forced to figure out a way to optimize ToS which in turn will allow them to implement those solutions to the PC version of ToS.

Hitting two popos with an oblique shot.
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>>171611691

you can just post qt
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>>171618405
>he still thinks the development of the mobile shit show is somehow going to improve the already long abandoned PC version
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>>171617592
Yeah that too. Anything weapon for memedps classes. Skull Smashers too I guess but to a lesser extent.
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how much does it cost to reset a character?
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>>171619301
Skill reset is cheap.
Status reset is steep.

If your character is only lvl 200 you can take advantage of the level up event happening right now and create a new character from lvl 1 to 200 in a single day if you have enough instant clear vouchers or time.
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>>171619529
I mean class reset. How much does it cost?
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>>171619857
There is no class reset
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>>171619857
You can't class reset.
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>>171619950
>>171619991
No? I thought there was. In the cash shop.
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>>171619857
Not for sale yet.
They did have an event on New Years that gave one though.
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>>171619301
>>171619857
There's no reset. There's only reroll. And there's plenty of time to reroll your character, since it's easy as fuck to level up with all those xp buffs and vouchers.
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Is my shit bugged? Every time I try to click on my gem to place it in my weapon I get this
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>>171621270
Just click Yes. Their notification system is not properly filled out but that's basically an "are you sure" dialogue box.
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>>171620182
How do I get exp buffs and vouchers? I'm new to the game. I was gonna start playing a new MMO next month after I get my work sorted.

>plenty of time
That's subjective though. I don't want to reroll.
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>>171621270

remember to use a gem shop to remove gem weakness!
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>>171438857
Just got this for the fourth time this week.

What the hell, man.
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>>171621602
From the beginning, you can gather 4 types of candies by killing monsters. You buy recipes for candy baskets from the guy to the right of Klaipeda main square. Each recipe uses one of each candy. You can exchange those baskets for 3-day accessories (they give some good stats) or a 30 min +20% exp buff.

When you reach level 50, go to the event notice board. You'll get 10 boxes that can be opened after you reach a certain goal. Each chest contains items to level up faster. The last two also gives gem abrasives, a skill reset potion and a stat reset potion. They're untradable.

I made 4 new characters last friday and I'm already R6 in one of them. You can do it, anon. Focusing on a single character will lead you to R8 in one week.
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will there be a meetup today?
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>>171622570
Isn't the event over today or are you leaving that out for some other reason?
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>>171623528

No? It's here for 2 more weeks
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>>171623676
I'll still miss it then. Ok thanks anyway.
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Cleric 3 > Krivis 3 > Miko > Taoist

or

Cleric 2 > Krivis 3 > Miko > Kabalist > Taoist

I don't want to be Priest.
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>>171623528
That was what I thought, but the candy event lasts for another week and there's still two weeks until the end of the leveling up event.
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>>171623868

Why don't you want Priest? I think it offers more than Cleric 3 or Kabbalist.
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Have the Galoks in Neighport Church been confirmed to drop Battle Bracelets too?

I've seen other enemies in hunting grounds having the same drops as their normal counterparts, even Roxona recipes, but just wanted to be sure.
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>>171624439
I already have two Priest 3 characters, I want something new.
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>>171619115
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>>171624542

That's fair, I think Cleric 3 offers more than Diev 1 or Kabbalist for PvE but I don't have one so I'm not totally sure. PD1 is another option but I don't think that's that great either.
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>>171623868
Cleric 3 > Paladin 3 > Miko/Monk/Oracle/Whatever > Inquisitor
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>>171623868
Krivis3 Benefits a lot from a single point in Kabbalist due to the SP regen. That is a good choice.
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>>171625580

Not him but I like priest 1 over cleric 3. Ress is useful and monstrance is like swift step for physical dps clerics gotta crit those smites and smashes
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>>171625725
The point of krivis 3 is ET/blut and not having priest there makes you trash.

Also, I don't know much about kabbalist but it's a poor choice due to these reasons:

1. If ein sof increases maximum SP (I don't know if it does, but that's how it works for HP) then even though you're replenishing your SP you're also increasing it which means your SP drain will be higher and it'll be harder to maintain it.

2. Even if the above works out ok, casting ein sof and walking over it then restarting melstis increases downtime even if it's just an extra second or two, it's unneeded.

3. With unroasted green and blue gems you can make your SP low enough that you just need to use a lv 15 potion in between melstis to keep it going permanently. You don't need to sacrifice Priest for being a literal jew over SP potions and gems.
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>>171627125

How low does your sp need to be that a lv15 upkeeps Melstis? I can't upkeep Lycantrophy on my Druid with unroasted lv5 blues on my weapon.
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>>171627347
Assuming you don't have SP recovery gear, you'll regen about 154 SP per potion tic and ~800.

1800~2000 HP will do it, if you can get below that at level 330 and raise SP recovery a bunch you might not even need to use potion between melstis and just the recovery might be enough. SP recovery gives 1/5th of its amount to each potion recovery tick, so if you get 200 SP recovery it will make each SP potion tick increase by 40.
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>>171627347
Melstis keeps the effect of recovering SP from a potion constantly ticking so with low enough SP it can have better upkeep than lycanthrophy despite consuming a higher %.

You probably need maga rod with lv 6 unroasted blues and two armor pieces with lv 6 unroasted greens to get yourself low enough.
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>>171627779
>IMC just introduced all these new fangled SP reco gear with hunting grounds
Woah. Sorc and Krivis must be so happy.
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Why are Kupoles so useless? The average human is probably stronger physically and magically than them. What do they even do normally?
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>>171628858
The -SP gear from hunting ground is better than the +SP recovery ones in terms of efficiency for melstis.
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>>171628858
All the gear I saw increased SP as well as SP recovery, so it's actually not as desirable.

For Sorcerers in particular, SP recovery doesn't matter when the summon is out anyways.
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>>171628923
Be the Goddesses' bitch errr... messenger.
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>>171619115
*BBBRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPP*
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>>171628923
The average human is a helpless peasant with no magic. There's a few cases where kupoles do things revelators can't, like unpetrifying you in the petrifying wind quests.

They normally do the goddesses' bidding if you know what I mean.
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>>171630239
I bet gohei could unpetrify
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>>171630239
>unpetrifying you
Literally impossible for even the goddesses to do. You just don't canonically get frozen.
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>>171630673
>>171630239
Also there are very few humans who aren't fighting demons. The majority of "helpless peasants" are fighting monsters just to farm their crops every day.

Although they're probably stronger if the goddesses weren't weakened enough to probably lose to a large group of humans.
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>>171630673
The game clearly shows it happening. If you're denying that's canon, look up the dialogue lines from that quest and post them, since I don't remember the exact details.

>>171630863
The quests say most people are refugees fleeing, or dead, and the guys who stay behind to fight often comment on how everybody left. Klaipeda is in the middle of a food crisis because people can't farm their crops every day, and the army needs help from the revelator to clear out Gytis. Orsha has a crowd in front of it that runs away from a basic poata.
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>>171633471
If Kupoles can unstone people, why don't they unstone the rest of the city?
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>>171634078
They can only unstone freshly stoned people. It's like CPR.
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Can I elememe now after the patch?
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Post Appraiser build!
I just want the shop
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>>171635125
Ar2RangerScout
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>>171634167
DAED
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>>171635125
Don't. It's a trap. The Appraiser is a low rank (rank5) only and has but a SINGLE point necessary to get it all.

It's one of those no-profit professions. Unlike pardoners that need more levels or squire and then gems to further improve marketability.
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>>171635316
And...?
It's still cheaper to appraise your own shit than doing it on other people's shops.
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>>171635456
Well as long as you have the character slot to spare, should be fine.
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I feel like the best use of Appraiser would be in GBL to give your team transcended accessories but since GBL doesn't really matter now except for a box it seems silly.

PvP is too low stakes in this game, TP was too much but it should at least give shards or cards or something.
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>>171635521
They need to implement "Resource maps" that are fully Open PvP.

Think Bee farm back then while GvG has no neutrality. Maps that can give you and your guild PASSIVE INCOME (Both in silver, items, gem exp whatever).

Something that people would want so they can grow stronger faster. In-game stuff only, no TP bullshit.
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>>171635621
I don't like the idea of open PvP maps just because PvP in this game is dumb and it'd likely just be a bunch of bored hunter scouts running around looking to perma stun people to death. Even when open PvP was a thing people would just temporarily leave their guilds if it got to be too much of a problem as well.
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>>171635740
Read again.

Only select maps will be Open PvP.
HIGH RESOURCE Maps.

Something for the guilds to fight over basically.
Even those with no guilds can get a piece of it if they want as well.
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>>171635521
The box is something. GBL is dying because it's unplayable on top of being inaccessible. Removing the punishment makes more sense than trying to balance it out with rewards.
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>>171635740
And another point is it will be Fully Open PvP. Even if you aren't inside a guild. You are open to being killed for those specific high resource maps.
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>>171635870
A point that can work to revitalize GvG would be a tournament based system where at the start of the season guilds can join and multiple fail safe schedules will be made between guilds in a tourney.

This way there won't be dodging. Instead, guilds will be ranked accordingly, with rewards at each tier. Heck give a participation cookie for guilds with 15 members filled.
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When did meet-up postings start dwindling?
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>>171636487
When guilds started letting in members with no ties to /tosg/ and when the novelty wore off.
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>>171635864
Just go play an RTS or something. Why are pvp fags always tryniig to bribe people to let them kill them. If they make open pvp , just make open pvp, no rewards or other bullshit. just penalties for killing others too much so maniacs don't ruin the game for everyone else.
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>>171636757
You selfish selfish prick.
We're giving PvPers a way to play and hopefully buy TP since we're trying to run a business here.

How is giving them a few maps to farm on while killing each other be detrimental to Everyone else.
Literally there are hundreds of map in ToS and you can't visualize giving PvPers 5ish maps?
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>>171636757
Just go play a visual novel or something. PVE fags are always demanding bribes to go kill monsters. If they make PVE, just make it with no rewards or other bullshit, just bosses to kill for the sake of killing bosses. Better yet, put in penalties for doing instances too much so the maniacs don't ruin the game for everyone else by rushing through everything or unbalancing the economy.
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godamn it what the fuck kind of maintenance period does this game have?
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>>171638071
A too long one. Maybe that's how long it takes them to wake up someone in America and have them drive out and restart the servers or something. They probably have to do something really stupid to keep the game working because of how shitty their databases are. They also have to randomly add and remove channels.
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>>171638325
They need to test all the new bugs they introduced.
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>>171638706
To make sure they're properly fucking things up? They should turn Orsha into a international test server.
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>>171634167
I always miss the autism gatherings. Shit.
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>>171634972
Yes!
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>>171639268
I-if we get enough people going to the gathering again. Will our meme-goddess return to the meet-ups once more?
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It's up
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>>171639748
It's not, just stupid site visual bug or whatever is
usually it showed Fedimian as up during mainteance, now it spreaded
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>>171640040
RIP.
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yo

haven't played since ICBT2

is the game still shit

is it still un-optimized?
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>>171640202
all of the above
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>>171640202
>is the game still shit
Yes
>is it still un-optimized?
ofc

We are also around the same population too
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>>171640232
why do people still play it if we're like four decades behind updates, engine is shit and theres a Ragnarok R teaser rolling?
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>>171640202
Game is running smoother now relatively speaking since ICBT2 and early access period.
Some optimizations were done but it's not enough for some people.

Try it out on your machine if it's better for you. Also be sure to install fpssavior from the add-on manager. Helps a lot for those high density areas.
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>>171640202
its worse than in ICBT

still sit but fun

still shit FPS but less bad

>>171640285
we not much behind now. RO is aids.
no better game or more like also playing other games.
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>>171640285
I am not even playing that much anymore, just log in because i know i will find some people for do some shit in game
Gives us a good game to move on please
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Why are there no hp pots on telsiai!? And why are the tokens 3m now!? Reeeeeeeeeee
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>>171640793
I bought mine for 2.9m.

tiredpopolion.jpg
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>>171640476
RO is aids because official servers got killed off (handed to a shit company)

>>171640513
>Gives us a good game to move on please

Wait for Ragnarok Revival, youtube Ragnarok R teaser

it's coming anon

no asian can be retarded enough not to revam and relaunch RO
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>>171640901
>RO
nope
>mobile
lmao no
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>>171640980
It's a new game you anusface

>unironically shitting on RO on a TOS thread
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>>171641041
>shitting on RO on a TOS thread
yes
some people here dont like RO or didnt play it

>muh spiritual RO successor
was a false meme and bad PR joke
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>>171641098
>muh spiritual RO successor
>was a false meme and bad PR joke

*this is what he actually believes
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>>171641098
This game does have a lot in common with RO but a lot of people realized they didn't actually like RO that's why there's a bunch of stupid private servers with biased mods fucking with game mechanics.
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>this game
>RO

neck uself
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>>171641221
Pservers exist because people did not want to pay for the original experience.

Allow me to remind you that even BRAZIL had actual servers back in the day

dont lie to yourself and the others
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Even if a game was a successor to RO, it'd just be a successor to renewal RO.
RO is never coming back. Morroc is never going back. Payon is never going to be returned to its original form.
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>>171641205
What was the point of this comment?
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We are 31 players away from reaching exactly 3000 average
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We got this armband that makes you shine like you're covered in vaseline and hobo cardbox that clips my maid costume. Both looks bad.
Also all the Klai/Orsha results for GBL are taken out from the ass.
Good job IMC
Lotus did 9-11
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Mobs still have 2k mdef what fuck.
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>1. Insanity (1054 pts) 9 Win 4 Lose

2. Lethal League (1022pts) 2 Win 0 Lose

3. Legends™ (1020pts) 3 Win 1 Lose

4. Sparks (1011pts) 4 Win 3 Lose

5. SamoWar (1001pts) 3 Win 3 Lose

6. CoffeeHouse (999pts) 1 Win 1 Lose

7. WhitePopolion (999pts) 1 Win 1 Lose

8. TeaTime (989pts) 0 Win 1 Lose

9. Pampa (979pts) 1 Win 3 Lose

10. Maid Café (978pts) 0 Win 2 Lose

>6. CoffeeHouse (999pts) 1 Win 1 Lose
1 win 1 Lose

Capy here, in this whole season i queued twice and lost twice, from where we got that 1 win?
I am serious
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>>171645379
>futurekeks queued 2 times and lost everytime
>futureproof 2 wins 0 loses
???
We're currently talking with GM on klai but all he says it's that these results are taken directly from logs.
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>IMC takes down GBL because it's bugged and results were comming out of the ass between various things
>1 month later GBL come back
>it's still broken and results are RNG based on server strokes
Why the fuck i keep playing this abomination of a game?
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>>171645612

GBL was a huge mistake its totally a pointless addition to the game
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> 9. Lotus (999pts) 9 Win 11 Lose (Klaipeda)
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>>171645612
>>171645742
pls remove gbl and guild neutrality.
it was good right before neutrality was a thing
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>>171646035
not happening, just unistall, it's getting cringeworthy here
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Looks like on kTest guilds get +3 members per level instead of +1 now.
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>there were girls in this thread not expecting GBL ranking to be random and not based on actual win/lose
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>>171646426
I don't want this change, guilds will look more dead than they are now
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>>171646426
I hope this comes to iToS soon. My guild is attached to old members who left, so we have only 1 slot left and can't recruit a lot of players.
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Futurekeks will have 50 open slots and NO FARM.
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>not getting a head start on the box ERP
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>>171647147
That wont fit, Karga senpai! Your armband is too big!
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>>171646646
>Implying there is a lot of player to recruit
Come on anon, time to stop
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Now that guild spots are increased, could we finally unite all Klai /vg/ guilds under a single banner?
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>want to play this game again and waste my life with Cawfee
>remember the daily chores that took hours upon hours
>how I couldn't progress at all as a player
>feel tired already without even reinstalling

nah

hows da game still
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>>171647440
It's fun if you actually play it instead of acting like you're at a job in a game.
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>>171647556
hmmmm
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Is this a good game? I'm looking for an mmo to play.
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>>171647817
It's bad but fun sometimes. Give it a try but don't buy anything from premium store.
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>>171647440
>>171647817
It's a fun game but you have to have tolerance for some of its programming downfalls.

If you like PVE grinding then this is a good game for you. It has PVP in it, and some people take it seriously for some reason, but it's not a PVP MMO.

It takes a little while to pick up, like most games. I'd say the "real game" starts at level 190ish and the experience gets better from there.

Now is a good time to try since there's a leveling event going on (Check news on the official site).
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>>171647817
This game is hit and miss in terms of whether people find it fun or not, it just depends on the person imo.

It's honestly easiest to try it out, since the core gameplay doesn't change too much as you go along.
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>>171646426
iToS doesn't need this change
It needs guilds to stop being attached to the past and members who quit 9 months ago and fucking merge, there are way too many trash 2-5 man guilds around here in Fedimian
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>>171648323
>Fedimian
literally who
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>Skirt clips
>Hands float above the box
IMC are literally trash tier developers
Oh well, I only logged on to collect that free TP anyway.
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>>171648461
the joke of an EU server where nobody wants to do anything
Every 315 orange weapon mats are always empty and so is the market
You can safely shout for Nuale/Blut and you won't get cucked on the cube because if you are lucky 4 people will come but not more
Everyone just seems to want to do their Saalus as fast as they can and log off
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>>171648738
They seriously need to revamp saalus, make it into some entry token based thing or something.

They also need to fix party quests and make them worth doing and doing in a aprty.
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>>171648738
This just proves EU are again smarter than pig sloth Americans.

Look at the quality of the American hour weeb posting and tell me this isn't the truth.
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42minute queue for a shitty lvl50 dungeon
nice game
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>>171646646

they'll come back one day
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>>171649225
>Dead hours, after maintenance so everyone went to sleep instead

Even that aside, use shout to try and get a party together.
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>>171649225
It's am mmo, call people for help.
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So how was I "supposed" to beat Diena? Was she one of those few bosses with a gimmick you were supposed to do to weaken them instead of brute forcing through?
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>>171649453
What people?
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TOP KEK
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=889
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ayyyy
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>>171650124
>Box doesn't float with you

Missed opportunity. Bet falconers could do this too at least.
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>>171649931
be cleric
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>he stills plays TOS
you deserve this
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https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/351823

SAY GOODBYE TO YOUR SHITBOX MY CUTESTERS
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>>171651302
wahhh muh recognishun
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So, gather corpse is an actual piece of shit skill. I always thought it was an energy bolt, and I had some spare points left over and I'm going to end up with a skill reset on the way to 330, so I went ahead and stuck a point in.

Holy shit, this skill has no redeeming features.
It's non elemental, so no bonus damage
It hits only once, not twice like freezing sphere and energy bolt
Other than the gather effect and what seems to be a slightly larger than average aoe, it has no secondary effects, like (freezing, sleep damage, or knockback)
It is not even a fucking chargeable skill, so you can't run around with it prepared. It just insta-fires wherever you were facing when you press the button, making it hard to aim.
I don't even think it gets the +50% thing the other energy bolt clones get.

They need to remove that skill and replace it with more skeletons. Even those are more effective.
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http://pastebin.com/Lew5akLQ

Guild:
The cap for maximum amount of players in a guild has been increased.
- After creating a guild, you can now have up to 50 people join.
- The Guild Tower Attribute has also increased from +1 People, to +3 People per attribute level.
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>>171651924
>increasing guild cap
>after the game is already dead and no guild is actually at the cap with active players
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>>171651924
>The Black Hole Gimmicks will be deleted
game saved.
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Please do not forget to add CoffeeHouse to the next OP. We'll reach bump limit in a few posts and I won't be home yet to make the next thread.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_MrkyHwA5E

Literally the best.
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@171652440
literally who
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@171652762
(You)
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>>171652489
Any half decent bokor PD can solo fantasy library, why have a mergen slut leech it
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>>171653092
>Oh shit I'm sorry.
Will you show me?
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>>171653252
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVpH8iIpBFs
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Another reminder to put Fedimian back in the op
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@171654972
no
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>>171651891

Thanks dude, I was going to ask for someone to test this skill. Not even a pushback like energy bolt (good to deal with hunters), what a piece of crap
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>>171653436
>Nice gear that he doesn't show.
>Notice several lvl. 100 attributes.
>Struggles at first DPS check with mere seconds left.
>Takes 1's of damage from everything, including boss.

So "half decent" in your books means utter whale that performs terribly?

K.
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>>171655407
>whale
The game has been out for over 15 months in korea, if you don't have multiple character with those stats you're either a literal newbie or trash.
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>>171655510
Whale detected.
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>>171654972
Make thread then
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>>171655549
This is why silute is irrelevant.
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>>171651924
>On-screen notifications for 100% Map Exploration and X Monster Kill Counts have been added.

Don't we already have those now?
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>>171656307
We aren't kr
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>>171655510
Koreans have had 5 dungeons runs since the beginning too which only recently changed.
0 ping servers too.
You can't compare the West and East servers with just time frame in mind retard.
They are more openly P2W as well.

It's easier in Korean servers to play the game and reach levels shown in the video.

Doesn't really change the fact that a whale is a whale and that video features a Korean pay to win whale. I doubt you know fuck all about the player either or how long they have actually been playing.

>any half decent Korean whale player
retard.
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How much TP do you need to buy to be considered a whale?
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>>171656981

1
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>>171656981
anyone with more silver than you is a whale
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>>171438401
Crystaras dagger or pajoritas?
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>>171657147
Corsair: Pajoritas 2 sockets
Anyone else: whatever 2 sockets you can get
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>>171657147
How is this even a question?
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>>171657147
Crystaras is significantly easier to get a 2-socket of.
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>>171656812
>let me shit all these irrelevant facts
I can make 2m a day running 290 rushes alone, plus 12-16 shards and silver from saalus runs. That's 60-75m silver and 360-480 shards a month from dailies alone. In the five or six months since the R8 update that alone is more than enough to transcend a weapon to stage 10 without even having to actually play the game, not counting your net worth from the 6+ months since release until then.

The only one you must blame for being shit is yourself.
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>>171657147
Pajeet 2 sockets.
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New thread
>>171658235




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