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Anime Degenerates removed edition

>Is it too late to start playing EVE?
No

>Can I play the full game without paying for it?
Yes, Eve is F2P with some restrictions and you can earn enough money ingame to get a subscription.

>I want to play EVE, what should I do?
Get 250,000 free Skillpoints by using any referral link (chaining them with friends works best)
If you have no friends create two accounts and refer yourself, you'll need an alt anyway.
Or use this link:
http://secure.eveonline.com/signup/?invc=4eca5d19-7c52-44fd-9de6-ff7b1398159c&action=buddy


>Now what?
Do the Tutorial then the Career Agent missions; they give you ISK, ships, skillbooks and teach you basics. Talk to players and try to find a corp. The game is only as boring as you are.
No, really. Find a corp.
You don't want to be that guy.

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Read the /eog/ pastebin: https://pastebin.com/cqJUuVT9
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Now:
>Nothing

Future: (https://updates.eveonline.com/)
>New Suns
>PLEX and AUR change:
https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/plex-changes-on-the-way/
https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/plex-rework-follow-up/
>Missile changes:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6894505
>Upwell Refineries:
https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/introducing-upwell-refineries
>T3C Rebalance (Ex. CPU and PG subs merged, among others) ships will have 4 subs with 3 options each
>Vexor, Caldari Medium Industrials and Rupture remodel
>New Blood Raider caps and PvE Event
>CONCORD Ships:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=515826
>New Project Discovery
>Outposts become Citadels


Past:
>March 14: "improved" Probe/Dscan, Fighter, HIC and Rorq changes
>Nov 15: Alpha clones, Engineering Complexes, reworked boosters
>Aug 09: Citadel contracts, dmg/rep visuals, cargo notifications
>Foozie makes a bunch of stupid pointless changes, nobody likes Reyni (don't ever remove this from the OP, because it is always true)
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>>174403293
stunt had it coming. he went full reddit.
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>Not enjoying anime
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Why is the Armageddon Navy the best ship in New Eden?
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>Navy

kys

t. apoc
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>>174404738
the caldari shields
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I wish I had an sp farm
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Your rokh is too slow anon get in a machariel.
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How is the Machariel even reasonable as as a BS? Why is it allowed to be as it is? Shit's fucked.
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>Want to do carrier ratting
>Don't want to wait 1 year for carrier skills
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>>174408493
>using expensive military material designed for large-scale battles as a source of personal income
But as long as you're not ratting in a titan, I'm going to ignore this blatant misuse of a capital.
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>>174409053
Its not even expensive.
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No excuse not to have a carrier if you're a nullbabby.
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>>174409843
Aren't the densest concentrations of supers actually in lowsec? You know, that place where bubbles don't work?

Don't be calling anyone a babby
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>174352173
>11m in vni
>30m in carrier
I get 18-22 in vni (depending of which variation of site i get), how can carrier give only 30m
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fuck
>>174352173
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Considering getting back into this game

I've only ever been a PVE babby who mined

I have an Orca (I think? The one that gives fleet boosts for mining) one one account, maxed out Hulk on another, and high mining on two more

I don't really want to PVE mine this time, but I might a bit to get the funds to plex.


I dunno my question. I guess what I should do. I want to get into combat (preferably some kind of piracy) so I'll have to transition skills and in the meantime I can make some credits mining or something. Does that sound like a plan?

What kind of skills/ship would you guys aim for if you wanted to be a solo larping pirate faggot? I know I have points in missiles, caldari ships and shields

I'm also kinda interested in the factional warfare aspect but won't that just make life hell for me in highsec?
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>>174411718
i get 20-23 in my ishtar and i get 60-75 in my carrier. that guy probably has downsyndrome
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>>174411963
>mining without at least 1 rorqual
No money for u

>I want to be an ebin pirate
Solo doesn't work well. You'd be aiming for blowing shit up in lowsec, but lowsec is shit and the only people who live there are bored cyno faggots waiting for someone to be dumb enough to undock and do things in lowsec.

FW is also shit, but people do it anyway so you'll fit right in if you're retarded enough.

Also, if your sec status goes down, you use an alt to do highsec things and move through highsec in an interceptor.
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>>174412472
Oh it's the rorqual I have. Whatever is the bigger better mining support ship. It's been a while.
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>>174411963
Rorq is the true\only mining ship now and it's a capital that uses drones.
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>>174412665
Yeah, but you don't get to sit in a POS anymore.
You have to actually be in the ore belt, mining the asteroids with these hilariously expensive rorqual-only drones.
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How is it unironically fly RNI nowadays? Or golem? Just remember RNI been huge meme ship but don't think i saw any in last years.

Speaking of memes, what is a good ship to solo drone 10? or maybe duo.
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>>174413165
Please put your words into sentences.
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>>174413338
Soory...bad england.
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>>174413165
rattlesnake

HOLY FUCK BALLS I HATE MOUNTAINS
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>cnr
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>tfi
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>>174391226
>tfw you're literally too retarded to play with lego's
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>>174412724
Do the drones mine more than a barge?
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>>174413701
Yea i was thinking about rattlesnake, but kinda not sure how to fit and how to fight...
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>fc asks for tfi
>i bring tfi
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>>174417251
Each of rorqs drones mines like a barge.
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>>174417374
So what you're saying is that I should train up 12 rorqual alts?
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>>174417419
Yes. Except you know...it's a capital ship, it requires a lot of time more and isk to fly it than a barge.
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>>174417469
Not that much more. A couple extra months maybe, you get to cut down a shit ton of training from mining crystal skills. Regardless thats a huge fucking payoff if you're comparing initial investment verses potential payoff.
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>>174417574
>Not that much
>A couple extra months
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>>174417609
>plexing one account after your done training
>plexing five accounts after your done training
>running one client after your done training
>running five clients after your done training

pretty much the only major downside is putting like 50 bil into a belt every time you mine.
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Put them in different belts then.
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>>174417896
She looks like a hoe.
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>get into jita
>get into clone bay station
>make a jump clone
>jump 900 kilometers into nulls
>realise i didn't install jump clone but just made station my home
Fuck.
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>>174418968
>not knowing lil debbie
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>900 kilometers
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custom camera tracking point when
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>>174419313
>install jump clone in null npc station
>self-destruct to Jita
>jump clone back

Now you have a jump clone in Jita. You're welcome.
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oneiros
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This game is dead
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>>174424927
If only you were dead.
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I wish i was fucking dead. Decided to stop eating sugar and only eat once a day and i seem to be gaining weight instead of losing it.
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>>174425449
You don't just quit shit over night, lower the sugar week by week until you are completely off.
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>>174425449
I don't think you're meant to only eat one meal a day. Something about less regular meals causing your body to store fat.
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>>174425449
1. visit /fit/
2. don't starve yourself
3. your body follows the rules of thermodynamics so train those skills to V
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>>174425449
>>174427508
Follow this^
Also wear ankle weights while you run to the store in your favorite cosplay, I promise the excersize and sweat burns too much fat to imagine.

Post lewd Kestrols
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>>174425449
You're eating too much during your one meal or your consuming too many calories from liquids.

>>174426712
>>174426819
The body can't create weight from nothing, it can't beat physics, if you lower your consumption you lower your weight. It doesn't matter if you eat 20 meals a day or 1, your body may enter "starvation mode" and reallocate the calories its taking in to store fat but that doesn't mean you gain weight it means your bodyfat percentage increases. That change comes from altering your dietary consumption in a way that makes your body think its a non-standard routine you could eat one meal a day and if it's your normal routine your body won't go into starvation mode, it will adapt to whatever.

You're making it more complicated than it really is, lower your portions, move more, don't drink/eat shit that is literally just for taste eg soda and chips and shit.
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>>174427805
>Also wear ankle weights while you run to the store
>going from non-active fat chair warrior to rocky running montage

That sounds like a good way to get injured desu.
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>>174428627
I mean obviously he's gonna stretch while he puts on his marduko magooko cosplay dummy. How do you think he's gonna zip up the back? Not like he has friends to do it for him so he's gotta stretch.
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>>174426712
>>174426819
>>174427508
>>174427805
>>174428424
I used to overeat but i don't anymore, i always feel hungry...even an hour or two after i ate. I don't drink sodas or anything, i only drink water and tea 2 times a day (with sugar substitue though).

I was unironically thinking about ankle\hands\body\penis weights to wear all the time for years after i saw it in some anime (literalyl only saw 2 minutes of it and scene where characters wore those things was the only one i saw) but i thought those don't exist in real life.

Hot sure about /fit/, it's not like it will say anyhting i don't know: "go to gym goy" and i doubt i will ever do that.

I don't cook food myself and i don't even know what i should eat, my mom just usually cooks me some vegetables, salads and i don't even remember what else, not chicken nuggets under mayonaisse is what i mean. Yea im 23 so here's that.
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>>174429229
I don't mean stretching, I mean not having the muscle structure built to support the activities yet. Pretty much any quick fix is a recipe for injuring yourself, your body will be a lot stronger if you give it time to adapt to a new lifestyle and stick with it.
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>>174429290
>anime
maybe suicide is the answer
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>>174429290
The sticky of /fit/ has some pretty good shit for cutting even if you're not looking into becoming ripped, actual healthy diet plans and shit
Always take a look before dismissing an idea
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Oruze pls go
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>>174429290
>overheat
Yo uh I don't think he means that, just in<out and that basic shit
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>Oruze
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>>174429290
/fit/ covers all fitness its not just "lol lift weights" there's dietary advice and shit too. Though you're probably right about already knowing what you need to do. Most people know what they need to do it just isn't easy. I don't know what sort of weight gain we're talking about here but if what your saying is "I don't eat anything unhealthy and all I drink is water/tea and my portions are super small and I still gain weight!" then I just know you're a fucking liar. People don't have special bodies that let them ignore the laws of nature.

The only way to have a strong healthy body is to eat with the intent of having a strong healthy body and to have a lifestyle that supports a strong healthy body. That means exercising, going outside, doing yardwork, walking/standing/moving your body, not pushing yourself too hard and injuring yourself, correcting your natural imbalances/posture, having a proper sleep schedule.
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/fit/ only talk about how to become a trap
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>>174430020
well i sleep like shit, maybe 6 maybe 4 hours a day, don't move except to and from work but i do eat barelly anything. I guess i just stay fat untill i finally kill myself, hehe.
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I'm new to the game and have been training gallente ship skills. I was going to aim for using a Megathron for level 4 missions which I understand are good income and sound kinda fun. But should I be using a different type of ship? What kind of ideal fittings exist for that stuff? Is the kronos far better than the Megathron?
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>>174431727

You'd do the L4's a lot better if you use a Dominix with some good drone skills.
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Did... did EvE go F2P?

How are the player numbers/activity in EvE nowadays? Haven't played in a couple of years.
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>>174432292
They are pretty alright.

You won't have problems with finding people to play with/people to kill/people to scam

Don't believe the lies
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>go to uniwiki to check ships
>check what it says about the daredevil.

>The Daredevil is a Serpentis faction frigate. It is a potent ship, with two turrets acting as six due to its special ability and its bonus to webs allowing it to stop most ships in their tracks. Daredevils can be quite deadly, doing a large amount of damage for a frigate sized hull, and being able to slow ships to 10% velocity with one web makes deploying that damage even easier. Although expensive, it is easy to skill into and has enough firepower to blast through all the L1 and L2 missions, including the SoE epic arc and the Dagan mission at the end. You can shield tank it for more DPS at the expense of some EHP and the tacking abilities, but the extra DPS is probably a waste for missioning.

Pretty dank info e-uni senpai
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>>174432292
not really f2p, more like a permanent trial
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>>174433341
>extra DPS is probably a waste for missioning.
What.
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>>174431727
Here, if you're in it to make Isk you should probably just go for a Machariel.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1knVqZEH8qFY0eT44nMEFwcKd3t4PbgcZeuv58SVUxsI/pub
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>>174432096
No don't use a Dominic because the fucking rats will never stop shooting your drones
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>>174433469
fuck off retard
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>>174433440
Level 1-2's silly. I just like how they take a fucking terrifying frigate and only talk about running shit missions with it.
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>>174433586
They talked about pvp you knob
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>>174433540
Literally why? Is that info out of date or something?
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>>174425449
I used to be chubby but got a stomach ulcer a while back. I was advised to take it easy on my stomach by eating 6-7 meals every day (splitting each meal into a few smaller bits) and ive lost a ton of weight since. Now im mr. Skeletal.
You just need the discipline to not eat much during one meal, eat just enough to not feel hungry anymore.
Gym wont help you lose a lot of weight, it just converts some of it to muscle, running like a madman for half an hour is barely enough for you to burn one burger-worth of calories. So eat right to lose weight, train right to tighten those buns.
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>>174434854
>not jumping 2 cents at a time to counter people who outbid you in the time it takes you to change your order.
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>>174434474
No. They probably just hate the fact that you can make 200m/hour in high sec if you follow that guide.
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Some guy wants to sell me skill injectors for 6USD a pop.
Am I being scammed?
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>you are only allowed to do L4s with my autistic jew scheme. stop playing the game how you want
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>>174435548
It's CCP employee
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>>174435548
report him
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>>174435548
Is his name CCP Peligro?
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>>174435548
what's the usual price.
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get dunked you fucking nerds
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>>174435686
Do i get rewarded for reporting those ollegal sellers?
>>174435579
>>174435718
I'm not sure if you are really saying that ccp does this to fish for unfair players, he says he has a russian friend who farms them to him for an even lower price and he just takes a cut of the profit and resells them to other people as a middleman.
He has like 140 safely stored in amarr
>>174435762
A skill extractor is like 6$, an injector is i imagine, quite a bit more in real cash.
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oneiros
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Muninn
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>afk cloaky camping still exists
>this is considered okay by players who have been playing for 7-8 years
>forcing players to play with mechanics from almost a decade ago
and people wonder why eve never holds onto players over the long term
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Can you enjoy EVE when you dont enjoy other MMOs?
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>>174438772
Yes
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>>174438526
Cry about it shitter

It's me and 5 of my alts doing blops all over your shit. It's my goal to make you think I'm actually afk
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>>174438772
You also can't enjoy other mmos after you start playing EVE
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>>174441483
>It's me and 5 of my alts doing blops all over your shit. It's my goal to make you think I'm actually afk
he thinks playing the game in a manner that makes it unenjoyable for other players and actively pushes them away from the game is okay
he wonders why there's less and less content each month
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1MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner vs the 1MN Afterburner II

Why would anyone use the Afterburner II?
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>le players leaving meme
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How do we fix nullsec?
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leave the game be. There was enough of "fixes"
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>>174442043
I'd start with removing you from it.
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>>174442212
Jokes on you I don't live there
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Primae nerf when?
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Player made stargates when?
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>tfw you're just playing skill queue online while you're waiting for NCPLHK oldfags to quit EVE
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>>174441902

check out this sodium overdose
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>still feeding trolls in current year
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>>174441902
>he thinks playing the game in a manner that makes it unenjoyable for other players and actively pushes them away from the game is okay
It is OK. That's literally the entire point of eve

Me wrecking your shit is amazing
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>>174442043
fix jump drives and you fix all space except wormholes
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>>174441936
The t2 gets more speed and its pretty significant

Unlike t2 mwd the t2 after burner is actually fucking worth it
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>>174442043
give us an upgrade that prevents wormholes from spawning in our sov
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>>174446484
There's nothing wrong with jump drives

Wanna fix anything? Make it so I can log in more than one character at a time on a single account. This will remove the garbage that you need more than 1 account to own capitals at all>>174446691
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>>174446691
Stay mad carebear
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>>174446729
I imagine you'd have a hard time multiboxing with capitals if they required skill to use, rather than muh f1 muh big tank oh shit I was caught hopelessly out of position by better players, better press the cyno button that was close I nearly didn't kill all of them
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>>174446691
No fuck off. There is already not enough people coming to null. Stop killing content even more.
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>>174446890
>is killing content with afk camping
>is killing content by joining wormhole blue donuts
>is killing content by being NC. PL HK
>says "stop killing content even more"
??
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>>174442043
Give us the ability to turn off stargates so we can rat in peace.
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remove local from null
null is now fixed and so is afk cloaky camping
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you can already rat in peace since currently the best ratting ships are not tacklable and just frag anything in seconds
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>>174446875
Dual boxing carriers and fax machines is really hard

Muktiboxing dreads is easier tho since it's a stationary gun boat there isn't really any element you have to worry about regarding skill beyond capacitor management and refitting

Supers are the same, dual boxing Super carriers is a big no no because there's so much shit you can fuck up

I can't say I've ever seen someone run dual box titans
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>>174446996
>afk camping
Doesn't matter. You shitfit vni isn't content.
>womrhole blue donuts
Wormholers roll into null and bring content
>being NC. PL HK
Not relevant to wormholes

>>174447176
>fix cloaky camping by buffing it
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>i don't have a solution to the problem
>i know, just remove local and hide the problem
>just like how i avoid finding solutions to real life issues and would rather just hide them away
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>>174447195
>so much shit you can fuck up

only because the ship's entire existence currently is about fully exploiting ccp's failure to fix their slippery escape games so you can run from everything
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>>174447348
>muh real life

>>174447349
You can't run from anything
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>>174447312
I don't think you understand what afk cloaky camping is, you put an alt in a system cloaked and everyone has to stay docked on the tiny chance you're not actually afk
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>>174446890
>There is already not enough people coming to null.
Where do you live?

I'm in deep sovnull and we get blops drops, dreadbombs, cloaky campers, roaming small gangs, roaming solofags, random lowsec and PVP alliances coming in via WHs, w-space autists rolling holes 23/7 and even multiboxers camping jump bridges and pipe gates.

I can barely mine for an hour before I have to join some home defense fleet. Null income isn't even worth all the trouble that comes with holding sov. I'd make more Isk if I put my alts in FW or a krabhole.

Maybe you don't actually live in nullsec but just base out of NPC stations and want easy kills?
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>>174446996
>you're killing content because you're engaging in pvp

I bet when I ganks your shit in high sec you also call suicide ganging killing content

Fact is you don't even make content but you'll whine that there is no content
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>>174447532
>everyone has to stay docked
That's entirely your fault.

>>174447534
I live in delve
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>>174447481
>You can't run from anything

>infinite range
>can fit cloak
>can fit neuts and shit in highs
>can apply x thousand dps to any target
>no reason to ever not align out
>10s align
>oops you lost tackle for 1 second I teleported to my pos 5 jumps away gf good game design ccp
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>>174447532
>you have to dock up

No you choose to dock up
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>escaping is a bad game design
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>>174447968
very large ships that are more mobile than very small ships and require no support and specialise in noncommittal bullshit is incredibly bad
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>>174447676
>I live in delve
Join Co2 if you want more content at your doorsteps.
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>i'm unable to send a dictor to bubble the super
>i'm unable to apply neuts to keep it below jump cap
>i'm unable to shoot the fighters
>waah ccp why i just want ez frags

>>174448086
>more mobile
no
>require no support
no

>>174448159
C02 doesn't do literally anything else but cloaky camp.
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>salt general

dearies look at the state of this thread dearies
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>>174448280
>more mobile
>no

they're effectively a battleship in terms of align time but they can jump about 10 jumps, taking them between total safety and the fight instantly. you can always be there when some idiot presses a button and you right click, you are never out of position. getting to the fight in time requires no thought

>require no support
>no

there is no ship these cannot kill. they are not like pre haw cancer dreads where they're capital ships with capital weapons made for shooting capitals, they can just F1 on any target. the only reason other ships exist is to tackle things for them
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>>174448280
>C02 doesn't do literally anything else but cloaky camp.
They get lots of fights in and around Impass. Catch is PVP central.
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>it's just the one faggot mad at capitals again
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>>174448767
>it's that one retard not seeing the huge effect they have on literally everything
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>>174438772
Its kinda like WOW with better economy system
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>>174449321
Literally you crying about fighters you refuse to kill or jam

Protip a single kitsune with multi spec jammer can still reliably jam all the fighters of a carrier. Also fighters are stupidly easy to hit.

Haws dreads aren't used in fleets except for those idiots trying to copy Mr Hyde in some solo shit
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>>174449757
>want to kill this solo ratter like the old days?
>well you can't, because solo ratters are carriers now so you need a fleet so you died

>want to solo tackle it in your dedicated tackling ship? no sorry, the fighters go 10km/s you died/had to bail and it escaped

>you brought 10 guys plus the mandatory ecm ship which you are stupid if you don't bring and its your own fault? well even though he was completely out of position and had nothing prepared in advance, he pressed the button and some other people right clicked, so now there's 4 carriers

>"it's ok for it to be this powerful because it's a capital ship"

now you can write out a post about how you think I am unable to compose a fleet to blob a carrier successfully because you're dumb and miss the point
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>>174450150
>No one flies VNIs, Rattlesnakes, DED plex Tengus or smartbombing Machs
>W-space isn't full of Rattlesnakes
>I should be able to solo capital ships in my nanofag SFI or coward Stratios
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>>174448619
>there is no ship these cannot kill.
What does this even mean? Any ship can kill any ship and no ship is magically immune to others
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>>174450150
>>well you can't, because solo ratters are carriers now so you need a fleet so you died
Wow you can't solo a carrier so you're crying? This is all I'm getting from your nonsensical shit it's like you don't know how capitals work
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>>174450859
>VNIs
>Rattlesnakes

those are overpowered too in a similar manner to carrers but obviously far far less cancerous

>DED plex Tengus

they're in DED plexes so you can't get them

>smartbombing Machs

rare

>W-space

W-space is full of nothing

>I should be able to solo capital ships in my nanofag SFI or coward Stratios
>I should be able to solo any pvp ship that comes my way in my pve ship. it's ok, because it's a capital ship

>>174451037
what a retarded post. in eve, you are not guaranteed to apply your damage. if for some reason a dreadnought got tackled by a small fast ship, it would not be able to kill it. if a turret battleship got tackled by an interceptor, it would not be able to kill it. they require support from other ships. with a carrier or supercarrier, they can happily just F1 anything, they don't need to use their brains or fly in a particular way or use a certain weapon or anything

>>174451172
maybe learn to read better and/or kill yourself then retard
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>>174450150
LOL nigga just shoot the fighters the kitsune is there just to cheese it. Shoot the fucking fighters. They're piss weak and die to light drones, no resists and 2k raw hp it's hilarious how fragile they are
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>smartbombing Machs
>rare
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>>174451280
This is bait. Vni aren't over powered

Just because you can't solo something because you're a fuckin loser doesn't mean shit
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>>174451480
go on anon, if VNIs aren't overpowered, explain why people use them instead of other navy cruisers

your post isn't bait, you're just fucking dumb
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Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Cloaky Camping Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Walk Away From The Screen Like Nigga Remove Local Haha
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>>174451568
This is the state of /dog/ these days
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>>174451568
>explain why people use them instead of other navy cruisers
I use the Omen Navy issue all the time. I use the osprey navy issue because it's super fast and the stabbed fleet issue is a piece of shit

Go fucking cry about it
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>>174451787
fleet stabber is dank, fuck off
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>>174451787
give me your ratting Omen Navy and Osprey Navy Issue fits
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>>174451882
Slow and garbage, no fitting and autocannons suck ass
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>>174451787
you rat in an omen navy issue?

you realise a vni does more dps than you while afk, and can pop nearly all tacklers with zero effort, while your ship just fucks shit and dies
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What to do when someone with a much larger supply is constantly undercutting you by large amounts?

From what I know he might be trying to get me low enough to buy out all my supply and then raise it back up or tanking the prices to bully me out.

It's not gonna be a huge loss to me or anything but wat do in this situation?
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>jump into wspace system
>it's not full of rattlesnakes
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>>174451970
>>174451893
B-but This ship isnt as good at a tast than the other ship so its must be shit.
Please dont embarass yourselves.

>You cant rat in a guardian so its probably a terrible logistics cruiser
>And who uses a rorqual for ratting? Confirmed for trash.
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>>174452539
>discussion is about ratting ships
>poster points out the versatility of the Vexor Navy Issue and uses it as support for the claim that the VNI is the most ubiquitous ratting ship

>some faggot comes in going NUH-UH, OMENS AND OSPREYS ARE GOOD TOO
>gets confronted with, "okay, show me a ratting fit that stays on topic with the discussion of ratting VNIs being versatile and ubiquitous

>LOL UR DUMB
>starts going off topic to defend his tangential argument
okay son
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The project discovery change to exoplanets is coming in May?
Is it perhaps a good idea to try and stock up on analysis kredits before then so i can buy any new stuff they add to the SoE LP store, given that they will be in high demand when first out?

Or should i not waste time with that?
Also will my analyst rank 750 be saved?
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>>174452539
>ship A is better than ship B at ratting because of these 10 reasons

>y-yeah but even though we're talking about ratting, it's good at these other things we aren't talking about
>please don't embarass yourselves XD

I'm embarassed for you
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>>174452359
Just wait for a few days. Chances are he's gonna buy our the market once he's lowered prices. Focus on your other orders in the meantime
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>>174452849
They're going to reset everyone's rank and analysis kredits.
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>>174451970
>you rat in an omen navy issue?
LOL shit isn't overpowered for ratting who gives a fuck

Vexor Navy issues are used because they're easy no one thinks of pve balance unless it's with npcs
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>>174453960
>no one thinks of pve balance

I'm well aware of ccp's incompetence, it's what we've been discussing this whole time
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>>174452765
No one has ever (except this loser) considered something to be op because it's good at ratting

Ccp has never considered pve efficacy for balance decisions ever
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if only there was a module that slows enemy ships down
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>>174454112
the discussion was about ratting ships
>but these other ships are good in pvp
the discussion was still about ratting ships
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>>174454095
Fucking cry about it shitter

"this particular ship is good at pve that's overpowered "
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VNIs aren't even very good at pve anyway

They're better than other navy cruisers maybe, but they're still shitty compared to every other option

People use them because they're a low SP option that works for AFK lazies
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>tfw too bad at EVE to shoot PVP fit ships
>VNIs are overpowered so you can't even gank ratting newbies and low SP alts
>everyone else flies carriers but you have no friends to help you break their tank and kill their fighters
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>The VNI is overpowered because people use it rather than other navy ships
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>>174454846
nothing about this makes me a shitter, please try to be more intelligent

>>174455038
they are better than they should be, it doesn't matter that there are better things for more sp/isk

>>174455207
don't dogpost me faggot, I've got more dog pictures than you can even imagine
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>don't dogpost me faggot, I've got more dog pictures than you can even imagine
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>don't dogpost me faggot, I've got more dog pictures than you can even imagine
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>>174455398
>they are better than they should be
based on what exactly? the fact that people prefer them? they don't even make 60m/h
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VNIs are fucking easy to kill as fuck, they are literally only good for ratting. And if the pilot isn't retarded like 90% or null ratters and has neuts, bait scram or abandons the heavies for a deply of a flight of lights then he deserves to kill you anyway.
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>>174455628
based on the fact that you're afk and your isk per hour is more than zero
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>>174455628
Hell even alphas who can afford to get a VNI can't even use the highest tier drones
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>>174455398
explain this
https://zkillboard.com/corporation/696886241/
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>>174455743
if they're AFK then they're super easy to kill.

I sit AFK mostly AFK when mining, what then?
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>>174455904
what am I explaining exactly

>>174455932
>your brawling frigate instantly dies to battleship drones from an afk ratting cruiser and also all the rats are attacking you because you're on grid and have a scram fitted and that makes you a higher priority target than the guy who literally kills your npc faction for hours at a time every day
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>>174455726
This

I've only been baited once with a blops it was a max tanked dominix ratting that was actually pretty hard to kill and I almost lost my max DPS panther purely because I wasn't expecting it
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>>174456119
>>your brawling frigate instantly dies to battleship drones from an afk ratting cruiser
heavy drones can't apply to frigs at all.
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>>174456294
you don't know what you're talking about. if you can survive the initial instapop where they haven't killed their own tracking yet, and the drone ship is slow so you can go slow, then you might live. if it's a 100mn and you don't have a web, then you have no chance at all
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>>174456119
https://zkillboard.com/corporation/696886241/reset/group/26/losses/page/4/

all these solo VNI kills
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>>174456480
Yea I fucking do and heavies can't hit frigs at all
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>>174456490
I checked 5 of them and they're all to an orthrus, which makes them not relevant, since the orthrus does not rely on speed tanking to mitigate damage, it can just F1 the vexor and it'll die in a few seconds. any cruiser can do that, only with the orthrus it has insanely stupid tackle range so it can actually catch them
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>>174456480
>you don't have a web
wow good thing I'm not a retard and I'm in a malediction going 5k and your drones only do what? 2k? good luck faggot
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>>174456724
>they don't count because I said so
this massive asspain damage control
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>>174456738
>malediction
>solo frigate

sounds like you are a retard actually desu

>>174456587
so when I get volleyed into structure and have 4 seconds to bail, I'm just imagining it, right?
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>>174456932
>malediction isn't a frigate

>>174456932
>so when I get volleyed into structure and have 4 seconds to bail, I'm just imagining it, right?
maybe because you're fucking shit and you can't help but make up scenarios that don't happen because you just want to whine and bitch.
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>>174456903
your fucking stupid
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>>174457076
>you're stupid because I can't deal with the fact that VNI's are super fucking easy to kill so it doesn't count because I said so
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>>174457051
>fleet tackle frigate with 0 dps
>solo frigate

>afk ratter thinks these are the same thing

>maybe because you're fucking shit and you can't help but make up scenarios that don't happen because you just want to whine and bitch.

I could literally go tackle an afk vni right now if you like

>drones will auto target my frig
>they trundle over at 2km/s or something and arrive before the vni dies
>if the first volley doesn't kill me, the second one will if I'm still on grid

>>174457181
an orthrus is not a brawling frigate. there's really not much more I can do for you if you don't understand this
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eve online
>we welcome newbros as long as you get on your knees and suck vet dick
>if you try to challenge us or challenge the game, we will reee so hard, you don't even know
>why is eve dying?
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>>174457303
>>fleet tackle frigate with 0 dps
>>solo frigate
Why does it have to be a solo frigate? people use interceptors in nullsec, hell I wouldn't be surprised that a sabre gets in and tackles you.

>afk ratter thinks these are the same thing
who cares what he thinks he's AFK and his drones are 30-50km away shooting another target and won't readily switch to the tackler because another rat is closer.

>drones will auto target my frig
no they won't, they'll keep shooting their current target and pick the next closest target.

>an orthrus isn't a brawling frigate
oh so unless its a frigate, not just any frigate but it must be a BRAWLING frigate in your retarded hypothetical situation it doesn't count as a solo kill on an AFK VNI?
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>>174457509
>Why does it have to be a solo frigate?
>why does it have to be what we're actually talking about?

>no they won't, they'll keep shooting their current target and pick the next closest target

no, they'll swap to the pvp ship after their current target is dead, which will always be very fast because their dps is retarded

>oh so unless its a frigate, not just any frigate but it must be a BRAWLING frigate in your retarded hypothetical situation it doesn't count as a solo kill on an AFK VNI?

how are you this retarded

>x is too strong vs y

>yeah but anon, look at this killmail of x dying to a titan, why do you insist on not flying a titan?
>does it not count as a solo kill vs x unless you aren't flying a titan?
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>Exploring
>Find wormhole
>C1
>5 control towers and several large ships on dscan
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>>174457864
>>why does it have to be what we're actually talking about?
No its what YOURE talking about in your retarded made up scenario
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>>174453945
Reseting the rank does make sense but taking away your faction currency sounds idiotic, im not sure i believe that

Perhaps it would just be unusable for the new stuff amd it would be replaced with "exocredits" or whatever
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>>174457938
so I raise the issue, and now you're shitting on me for not talking about orthruses instead of what i'm actually talking about

kys desu
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>>174457864
>no, they'll swap to the pvp ship after their current target is dead, which will always be very fast because their dps is retarded
No they won't. They never do. when a frig rat tackles you, your drones won't switch to it for ages

>how are you this retarded
how retarded are you to bring a brawling frig to a fucking null roam thats not a fucking interceptor with a point?
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>>174458085
>frig rat

a frig rat is not the same as a player ship

>how retarded are you to bring a brawling frig to a fucking null roam thats not a fucking interceptor with a point?

apparently extremely retarded, since I get instapopped by battleship drones on an afk ratting ship flown by a 6 month newbie and this is totally balanced and it's all my fault for solo roaming instead of being a fleet tackler for a blob
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>>174458036
>I raise the issue and you're shitting on me
you're retarded because your ideas are retarded. VNI's aren't OP. They're easy to fucking kill and even easier because they're AFK

>not talking about orthruses
its a fucking kill mail who cares what it was killed with. You're the one who thinks it doesn't count because you said so.

>>174458203
>a frig rat is not the same as a player ship
who fucking cares the drones are a NON-ISSUE. Use a fucking malediction with a point, drones will never catch you and the AFK VNI can't escape even if he wasn't AFK!

>i got instaopped by battleship drones
post lossmail you're so fucking bad this is hilarious
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>>174457937
How is the general population in wormholes now? A couple of years ago it was just stupidly overpopulated.
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>>174458324
>its a fucking kill mail who cares what it was killed with

I care what it was killed with, because the damage application of combat drones vs smaller ships doesn't make it impossible to deal with fragile drone ships when you're in a fucking orthrus faglord

>Use a fucking malediction with a point, drones will never catch you and the AFK VNI can't escape even if he wasn't AFK!

how does permatackling it with a fleet tackler make the VNI die? and how does it make the VNI's performance vs brawling frigates acceptable?

>post lossmail you're so fucking bad this is hilarious

nothing I did was bad, you're bad
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>>174457998
https://youtu.be/vbc_miNR3F0?t=28m30s

That's what the guy said at Fanfest.
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>>174458627
>care what it was killed with,
because you're a stupid fuck who thinks VNI's are OP because they can't be killed by a retarded brawling atron or something.

>how does permatackling it with a fleet tackler make the VNI die?
Oh man, use your big boy brain. friendly fleet warps to you and they kill it.

>omg its OP because it killed an atron

>nothing I did was bad
bringing a "brawly frigate" to capture and try to solo a VNI
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>>174458748
>because they can't be killed by a retarded brawling atron or something

they should be very killable with anything. if you think you should be able to rat and defend yourself from pvpers while literally being afk, you should kys. if you think heavy drones should apply like they do to small ships you should kys

>friendly fleet

why should an afk cruiser with "bad damage application vs small ships" require a fleet to kill it instead of a single high damage mitigation frigate?
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>>174459127
>they should be very killable with anything.
says you you dumb fuck.

Should moa's be nerfed because an Ibis doesn't do enough dps to overcome the shield regen?

Fucking cry about it, no one has any problem killing AFK VNI's but you because you can't seem to figure it out

>friendly fleet
why are you flying a fleet fit if you don't have a fleet to back you up?
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>>174458346
From my very limited experience of poking my head into wormholes and hitting dscan, it seems like they're pretty populated, but I've only ever been into maybe a dozen w-space systems ever.
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>>174459270
>Should moa's be nerfed because an Ibis doesn't do enough dps to overcome the shield regen?

no, moa uses turrets, so you can mitigate their damage in a sensible way, so it's possible to kill them if you outplay them in a smaller ship. do you understand the difference here? with a broken drone ship like a vni or gila, there is no way to outplay them like that up close, and the pilot doesn't even need to be awake. you die

>why are you flying a fleet fit if you don't have a fleet to back you up?

I'm not flying a fleet fit you absolute retard, you imagined the whole thing
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>>174459525
This is bait, you can't be this retarded

>wah CCP nerf VNI's because I can't be super fucking retarded and win with my garbage fit

>its not a fleet fit
whats this then?

>how does permatackling it with a fleet tackler make the VNI die?
Fleet tackler, implies fleet fit
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>>174459652
>Fleet tackler, implies fleet fit

fleet tackler is what you're flying. you want to go around in a malediction with blob support and press orbit mwd and warp disruptor. I'm talking about solo pvp. I have been talking about solo pvp this entire time, in short range frigates. not in fleet tacklers

>>wah CCP nerf VNI's because I can't be super fucking retarded and win with my garbage fit

my fits are very strong and I'm a really good pvper
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>>174459525
What happens if I had a smartbombing machariel that was cap stable and went AFK, would you whine that my smartbombs kill you because you wanna brawl?
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>>174459797
>fleet tackler is what you're flying.
Oh so you're making up more shit?

Why don't you gitgud and do what works? How about stop trying to kill a VNI with a retarded brawl fit frig and bring something better?

>blob
I didn't know having friends and having fun were "blobs"

lol go be shit you dumb fuck You haven't gotten killed by VNI drones, you got killed by the Sanctum 10/10 rats the VNI was running
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>>174459821
maybe. I'd probably just brawl you from outside smartbombing range. I'd be more mad about all the rats shooting me desu
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>>174460053
>brawl
>from 9km
good luck
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>>174460156
Rocket Kestrel OP
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>>174460053
What if I had a cap stable tengu with a medium shield booster that could tank 500dps ez

whats your faggy ass atron gonna do?
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>>174460306
with autotargetting missiles
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>>174460031
>Oh so you're making up more shit?

here's what actually happened. I've been saying this whole time that it's fucked how heavy drones can just instantly frag any frigate that isnt' going higher than their max speed. and you came along, or some other retard, and suggested that instead of solo killing the VNI in a brawling frigate, that I instead "solo kill" it by tackling it in a malediction and having friends come in and kill it. and now you're all confused/retarded about it for some reason

>I didn't know having friends and having fun were "blobs"

regardless, it's not what we're talking about. there's a very simple issue here that we could focus on if you were less dumb - drone damage application. but instead, in typical r/dog fashion, we get sidetracked talking about orthruses and "why are you solo" and "your fit is shit" and it just goes on forever because you're so unbelievably retarded

>>174460306
nothing. but you wouldn't kill me in 4 seconds while afk
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>>174460465
Heres whats happening

You are retarded, this is a fact

You are a fuckin bad taking a knife to a gun fight

This is bait

CCP doesn't give a fuck about your retarded ass suggestions because you won't do fuck all to gitgud
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>tfw you buy a rattlesnake and fit it
>run a few missions
>decide you don't like it compared to a raven or a dominix
>fly it back to jita
>sell it
>lose 150 mil between insurance/rigs/reselling costs

I'm such a useless faggot and all I do is make stupid decisions that cost me isk and waste my time like I'm some sort of retarded monkey.
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I can never tell if this is just bait or real autism
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>>174460731
Its autism
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>>174460650
>afk ratting ship
>gun fight

no. back in the day, people ratted with heavy missiles and turrets, and rats didn't defend ratters. if you got caught by a soloer you had a serious situation on your hands. now, you just do nothing and your 800 dps heavy drones and the rats will save your ass. I'm already far more gitgud than you'll know, but back when things weren't retarded, ratters had to gitgud a little bit too
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>>174460890
gitgud
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>back in the day
>neut enters local
>log off
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>>174460969
gudder than you are
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>F2P
Since when? I haven't heard about this game in a while, spoon feed anyone please? I hope now it's not P2W like literally every F2P ever.

I was considering Star Citizen to be honest but if this is free then I want to give it a try.
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>>174461325
since last october
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>>174461325
There is no gold ammo or anything like that. You're still gimped as a f2p player because you don't have access to all the ships and progress at a slower rate than someone who's subbed but it's not impossible to grind your way to omega status.
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>CCP makes it possible to play for free

>free players bitch and moan that there isn't zero reasons to pay
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>>174461875
they do?
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>>174461325
it's not f2p it's just a permanent trial
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How to beat the system?
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>>174463884
have you considered getting good?
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How do I make wh money and is there a wh equivalent of horde that just let's me leech off them like the lazy piece of shit I am?
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>>174465925
Generally wh corps don't want leechs because it is easy to fuck things up. Also the manpower requirements are slightly different, so it's not like having a few extra shitters will be a massive bonus when HK comes around.

If you don't have a dedicated scanning alt, some industry skills, high sub-cap skills, and a hauler alt, it is probably just going to be a low income pain in the asshole moving into wormhole space.
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NEWFAG HERE

coming from elite, thinking it was going to be that dream game i always wanted ever since i played space rangers 2 as a child

then after me and my friend realized its a glorified space shooter i just had to glance at eve

WHAT
AM
I
IN
FOR
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>>174466939
You're in for an average of 2 years of gitting gud before you can start playing for real, unless you can get a vouch from someone in a good corp.
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>if I join a meme corp I'll be gud
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>>174466939
make sure you use an invite so you get 250k free sp
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>>174467070
what if i want to be a sneaky leach

like i was in space rangers 2

just slowly build myself up by helping lads gank other lads then get the salvage and when im good enough gank small ships then run the fuck away?

i love being a selfish cunt in these games, i think seeing a post on ed forums about setting a bounty and keeping me out of a system made it all worth it
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>>174467375
>wanting to start ganking day 1
>wanting to be a selfish cunt in eve online from day 1

Goodbye friendo, you won't be here long.
Unfortunately this game is autistic enough that you have to play it like a career, at the top end everybody knows everybody and their history goes back 6 years +, starting off with shitty piracy is probably just gonna end up with a bad zkill and a lot of upset bears.
Get into the game, join a newbie corp, find someone in there doing something you kind of like, take the first opportunity you are given to drop the newbie corp and fly with someone better.

If I am correct Merc Acc has an alpa corp if you want to learn gatecamping and generally shitting up high/low sec, so if you are certain about being a dick, go be one there but make sure to befriend your corpmembers and the locals.

If you ignore the honoribrue path and make everyone hate you, you will end up like Stunt.
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>>174467816
who's stunt lol

also its not neccesarily about shitting up a sector its more for the keks

i wouldnt even kill people just make them distracted enough and sperg out and send a fleet after me
just need a fast hit n run ship

literally the most fun
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>>174467375
play through the tutorials and then find yourself a pirate corp if you want to git gud
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/corp/Alpha_Waffles

if you just want to harvest tears hooking up with http://www.minerbumping.com/ or joining Goons (http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Goonswarm_Federation/corporations) and getting into miniluv might be a good idea
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>>174468456
sounds like concentrated autism
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>>174468456
>getting into miniluv might be a good idea
He needs a vouch, a decent highsec ganking history or at least 3 months in the alliance to join miniluv if I recall correctly.
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>>174468442
stunt is anime
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>Now an age old way of creating alts often referred to as “Cooking an alt” is whereby you upgrade them for once month and let that account expire. Once you log in after the expiry it will turn into an alpha clone, however this is only after you log in. Any skills set to train before the expiry will keep training until you log in. This was traditionally used by Dread pilots to create alts coining the term “Cooking a Dread alt.”

>What this all means is you can create an upgraded alt for about one bil and que up all the skills above, let it expire, than extract and resub once they have been trained. This method is currently how every large skill farm works. This mechanic has been in the game since it's inception and was introduced initially to encourage returning players to resub. After the introduction of skill extractors the developers forgot about this mechanic or simply don't consider it game breaking enough to change.

Is this true?
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>>174470138
>alpha clone
>in the game since it's inception
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https://zkillboard.com/kill/61685961/

No anime allowed
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>'Augmented' Ogre
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This thread is conclusive proof that frigatefags should be purged irl
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>>174470821
who are you quoting?
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>who are you quoting?
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>Join shitty highsec corp for explo loot buyback and BPO copy access
>corp starts up PvP branch
>Most of corp is newbies or industry players
>head of pvp branch is the latter, no idea how they got the position
>doesn't want to get feet wet in FW plexes, only interested in null and WH
>most experienced pvp player is told to cook up fittings with only T1 modules so we can "build them ourselves"
>corp is about to take a bunch of newbies into null with T1 fitted frigs as a first PvP experience
Should I go lads? What should I fly?
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>>174470138
I've read multiple topics about it, all of them conflicting reports.
It works
It doesn't work
It works but only for 24 hours/a week/stops as soon as you log back in
etc
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>>174471213
yes why not, sounds like fun
at least they're trying to create content
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>>174471213

maulus.

might as well keep the rest of the newbies alive from shit that will kite them at 50+ km.
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How much ISK do you guys earn per hour max? If you really tried?
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>>174475414
1bil not including rare drops
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>>174475414
I sold 28 injectors in an hour.
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>>174475414
900m/h easy doing L5 missions and selling via sell orders
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I wanna do some solo pvp and exploration in low and null sec.

Where go
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>>174475916
Solo Null is non existent

your best chance to get solo is faction war lowsec
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>>174475916
pick a non-npc nullsec region that is not a busy meme region. and don't do it in an exploration ship, that's silly
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>solo null
>everything is either a T3C, an interceptor or a garmur
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>>174475916
The Sansha regions have the best exploration loot, try there.
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>>174476960
then go to a different part of nullsec
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>>174478156
north
>renters
north east
>russian renters that blob with capitals
east
>more russians that blob with capitals
south east
>just russians in general
south
>test co2 and other nullblobs
southwest
>goons
west
>maybe some fights here, never been
northwest
>the fuck even happens here?
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>>174478742
>northwest
Get blobbed by Horde
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>>174479447
didn't they become elite high sec pirates with that whole burning perimeter thing?
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>>174468442
Being a pain in the ass is okay if you are a nice guy, if you are insufferable in local, right back to being Stunt.
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>NRDS

Is this still a thing in Providence with CVA? Haven't played in years
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Is this standings chart for FW still accurate? What are the slashes for?

https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Factional_Warfare_Standings
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>>174485524
yes
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Fast price copy feels like cheating. Thoughts?
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Post wallets
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>>174488862
On mobile but
>tfw 1.7b wallet
>tfw too lazy to rat so it's been like that for 2 weeks now
Kill me
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>>174488862
why?
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>>174488862
Got about 25b in BPOs as well
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>>174490096

m8, why do you have so much liquid isk?
are you saving up for super?
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>>174491668
i havent played much the past couple weeks because of a war dec. kind of hard to move stuff around high sec in a freighter during a war.

my next purchase is going to be two JFs in about 40 days.
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ANOOOOOOOOOONN
GET ON COMMS
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>>174492923
They like you! They just want to hear your voice and about your day.
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>That one guy that doesn't get on comms and inconveniences everyone else by typing intel into fleet chat that no one reads
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>>174493752
He's a spy
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>That one guy who always tells jokes on comms and makes everyone uncomfortable
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>>174476960
that's a good thing retard, you can kill all of those in a T1 frigate
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>>174494518
Show me one of your killmails where you soloed a T3C with only a T1 frigate.
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>>174494678
>however will I get under the guns of this beam confessor or arty svipul? nah that shit's just impossible
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>>174494739
>confessor or arty svipul

Those aren't T3C
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>>174494812
fuck, I can't believe I misread that twice
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>>174476960
If you come GE-8JV I'll be waiting there in my meta-fit Drake.
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>8 rorqs

how will dronelands anon ever recover
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>>174495050
omw ;)
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>>174485524
If you join one of the smaller PvP corps in Providence that are not part of the CVA alliance it only applies in space controlled by CVA or anthother sov holder in the alliance. So you can fly into say HED-GP and blow up all the nuets you want.
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>>174495050
>Brave space
No thanks.
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>>174497420
I like brave. They always want to fight.
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>>174495924
>multiboxer
[muffled blyaaaaaaat in the distant region]
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>activate alt to be skillfarm
>end up using it a shitload
>need another 4 skillfarm alts to generate extra isk for both accounts

How deep is this rabbit hole?
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>>174498947
Wait till you have a notepad with 36 accounts. Welcome to Wonderland.
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>account details in plain text
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>>174499229
are all those alphas and you're having to reset the queue every other day?
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>>174499327
Have a paper decryption key on the underside of my toilet seat.
>>174499359
Yes It's not too hard I have a bot I made to do it automatically for me.
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>>174499229
I only made enough alphas to cover the cost of plex for 2 characters assuming the monthly profit would be 250mil
Manually doing it isnt so bad, been at it since January. I do it while I wait for the rice cooker in the morning.
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>Mining in high sec in an Orca with 4 mining drones and 1 scout drone to take care of rats
>Check back every hour or so to switch mining drones to new rocks
>afk the rest of the time
Is there anything comfier?
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>>174500814
Yeah, not being poor.
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>I have more isk than you
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>>174502068
t. venture miner
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>when you get your second freighter pilot

feelsgoodman
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>>174502336
but how good is the venture tho?
a fresh noob can pick a couple of good rocks and set it mining, come back with about 1M worth of ore
Great ship.
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>>174502451
You can also take it to FW, use it to plex and after 10 mintues you have 20m.
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>>174502709
>buy faction items from FW LP
>fly through uedama
>dead
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>>174503313
>not exchanging LPs in highsec
>not paying some noobs to haul your items
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>>174460890
>vni
>800dps
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anyone here live in a c1 wormhole?

is it comfy?

didn't mean to quote
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>>174505904
I lived in a c1 for a while with a friend, before citadels were a thing.
It was pretty comfy. The money you can make is okay if you do every site/huff every gas cloud
More if you mine as well I imagine but I didn't do that.
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>quoting
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>>174455038
>They're better than other navy cruisers maybe, but they're still shitty compared to every other option
What other options are there
1. Ishtar - same as VNI but better in gurista space.
2. Rattlesnaek - feels gay and not at all faster and comfier than VNI , maybe my fit was shit but i dunno
3. Carrier - yea just train a carrier, ez.
4. Machangiel - i dunno really, is it good? Is it bad? Feels like it has the same dps as rattle but if rats get near you you fucked. Maybe i should try machriel? What to fit? Auto or arti? Warp at 100? Against drones
5. dominix - i guess he's good for poor multiboxing
6. maradeurs, t3 cruisers, whatever - all require ammo. just as everything not-vni, don't allow afk farming, require more skills and more isk.
7. Gila
8. Wait, you were serious about gila? lol
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>>174506212
weren't gilas ok before the slot nerf
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jeela
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>Machangiel
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>>174506270
I don't know, they just have less dps, require missiles and cost much more. You can get two VNI for the price of one gila.
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>>174506270
they were retardedly overpowered before the nerf, and they're retardedly overpowered after the nerf
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>>174505904
It's anti-comfy. It makes you poor, you can't roll your static holes for new chains, and you're permanently an easy eviction target.
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>>174506671
Don't see what's so good about them/
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>>174506212
>Machangiel
Its meh. The AC ammo consumption kills it, might be okay using T2 ammo in angel space.
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>le ammo cost
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>>174506212
>Feels like it has the same dps as rattle but if rats get near you you fucked.
Just MWD away or DPS tank them?
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>>174506924
they do insane dps with very high application and range and have a tank bonus
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>insane
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>>174507297
They only do more dps than VNI if you use t2 damage missiles.
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>>174507417
yes, vni does very high dps as well. slow drones though and no tank bonus
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>i'm mad at good ships
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>>174507468
But VNI has bonuses to drone speeds so they not slow at all. Sure they tank more but where do you need that much tank where gila is the choice? It just costs much more and requires two sets of skills to pilot, seems like it's better to, i dunno, use tengu maybe if you decided to do missile training.
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>I'm oblivious to simple facts because I only do pve so 99% of ships just don't exist for me

>>174507613
heavies with a drone speed bonus are still slower than mediums I think
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>have 2 PI alts that make enough Isk to plex my main with a couple hundred mil left over
>could train 8 more if I stopped training my real characters for a month or two
Should I go for it? I don't mind the clicking and being able to plex all my accounts with PI sounds great.
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>>174507807
you can also drop some money you keep for emergency kfc trip and buy yourself a month or two of those retarded overpriced MCT things.
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Is fac warfare a good place for someone new to PvP to get a feel for it?
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>>174508004
It's decent because you can find a fight fast and without hurting anyone's feelings. There's some faggy shit out there though so don't expect it to go nicely.

Every player should go welp a couple of frigates/destroyers in FW space just to see how it is.
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>got my alt killed on lowsec gate while i was just relocating him
>killed by smartbombing gang of like 20 BS, killed by an officer smartbomb
>check guys killboard - literally just sits in the same system and smartbombs for hours with officer fit
Is this the elite pvp i heard about.
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>>174508354
That's the kind of PVP that makes you lots of Isk
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>>174508354
becuz what if you carried 100 plex ??? :^D
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>>174508420
They'd destroy them with their smartbombs, no?
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>>174508354
>Going through Rancer
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>>174508517
>Rancer
It wasn't tho.
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>>174503523
>>not exchanging LPs in highsec
u wot?
Of course it's exchanged in high sec.
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>>174506270
After the slot need they lost a pretty big chunk of damage something like 17%+2%dda nerf
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>>174509068
How can you die then?
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>he doesnt know about suicide ganking
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>he doesnt know about courier contracts
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>>174403293
solo play when
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If I get flagged as a suspect because I stole from someone's container, are people allowed to just shoot my ship or can they pod me without CONCORD buttfucking them?
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>>174513380
Yes, to all that
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>bored and nobody is in the hole
>ceo decides to bankroll a suicide roam into null
>grab a rattle, gila and a daredevil
>Hit lowsec
>dead as fuck till we get landed on by an onyx, a nestor and a rapier
>they get some other ships to drop 2 cynos
>get 2 nids and a FAX drop on us
>refuse to pod anyone
>they leave a gecko on the field
What the fuck is wrong with low sec?
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>>174513714
>leaving comfy WH space for subhuman kspace
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Which ship looks the most like a buttplug?

I wanna pilot a huge buttplug through space.
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>>174514190
Avatar
Good luck.
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>>174514190
Iteron mk V
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>>174514276

Takes too long to train.

>>174514295

That looks more like an electric shaver.
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>>174514190
Capsule
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>>174514362
>>174514190
Thorax
It's a literal dick
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>>174514404

That's what I'm piloting currently. I was just wondering if there's anything more buttplug-y looking.

>>174514386

It doesn't have a flared end. Without that it would get lost in the deep dark void of the rectum.
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>not mentioning astero, literall buttplug with handle so it doesn't slip in.
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>>174514603
No one can see it though, I don't think he wants an invisible one.
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>>174514603
A stratios would be better
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>>174514603

Got Astero but it doesn't really remind me of a buttplug.

I was hoping for a Gallente ship. Their stargates look like one of those chastity cock-cages so it would be a nice fit.
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>>174514960
A hyperion maybe?
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What the fuck is wrong with gays?
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How do i train alts for roqs.
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>>174475903
>>174475832
>>174475751
Is this an accurate representation of players money making abilities? I made like 500 mil over the past two days doing missions and I've been pretty happy with that. I could make more trading but trading is more active if I really want to make money. I suppose I could be doing more passive regional trading and just checking stuff every few days to make a lot of isk but I'm lazy and don't want to add daily upkeep to my schedule.
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>>174515508
Yes it is, 1b/hour is feasable with LP but it requires you to have several carriers and great skills.
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>>174514190
Phantasm
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>>174516076
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why do the caldari navy issue ships have that awful paintjob
it's not even the right shade of blue to blend in with the nebulae in the skybox
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I want them to replace SKINs with the same custom paintjob system all games use, with predefined colors/camos and predefined areas to fill in as shown in like the past 4 fanfests
They can keep the more "special" skins like IGC victory and Hostile takeover, the ones with stripes and shit
This way they can keep making shekels, all of us can customize our ships and no one will be able to fly a pink dildo.
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when will the standard edition frigate book be available to preorder
I like the limited edition but I wanna know what the in game thing is before I order it
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>>174516487
The code gives clothes and lore items.
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GUYLA
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want to start an indy account
How do, spoonfeed me
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enyo
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>loki
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>>174460651
Thats how eve is, even old players still do this.
I did this borderline weekly when i was new and bored and bought 1 or 2 plex per month so i could play around with shit.
This is how you end up knowing why you do and dont like things. Its just like real life.
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Will opening yellow containers flag me if I don't take anything from them? Can I look into them, without cargo scanner, and not get flagged as a suspect?
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>>174522283
Yes. You can look in them.
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Don't you fucking dare looking in my wrecks.
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>>174522951
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Real men fly 800mm plate
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>>174510109
Nice.
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>>174522283
For future reference if you set your safety (that green, yellow, or red circle above your capacitor) to green it will prevent you from doing anything that will give you suspect/criminal status so you can find out what does/does not cause it yourself.
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jaguar
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>>174529468
Yes, when your safety is on green if you hover over a module that will give you a flag or if you try and commit a action that would flag you as criminal or suspect it will tell you which flag it gives you.
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>>174513714
They don't want to take the security hit from podding people. People who live in low sec are just as bad as highsec Care Bears.
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>people who make retarded generalisations
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>people who make retarded generals
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>people who make retarded meme posts
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>people who make retarded people
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>>174534585
post yfw soon, the Loki will be the goto FOTM T3C and will have entire doctrines revolving around it
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>retarded people
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Retard
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10% falloff
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>>174535162
I like it how 10% extra falloff barely helps autocannons do more damage at all
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>>174535313
>2nd shortest range turret literally has less base damage than the longest range turret
>"I know we'll give it very slightly longer range, that'll fix the problem"
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>>174535443
That's what you get for being entirely capless.
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>>174535443
It should have gotten 10% to damage, not falloff

The falloff increases damage by less than 1% half way to their max falloff eange
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>>174535731
it should've been huge damage nerfs to medium rails beams and arties. the way it is now, a 250mm railgun (medium) does the same dps as a 350mm railgun (large). a multifrequency heavy beam laser does more dps than a multifrequency heavy pulse laser, and has double the range. shit just makes no fucking sense, and everything will be hopelessly broken as long as it's like this
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/vg/ corp??????/
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>[Question about Activity X / Fitting Y]

>'yeah I'll help >:) just tell us what system ur in. I'll even bring some friends'
>'hehe what system will u be doing that in >:) add me to fleet hehe'
>'i can help just tell us where youre doing it and what timezone. one of us will be there shortly with a bomb deliv- err i mean some helpful advice hehe'
why
This shit is 'I did Nazi that coming' tier
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>>174535995
>nerf everything even though autocannons have been shit for 10 years.

Damage isn't the only metric you dunce. No one uses 350mm because they want the higher damage output of the 425

No one compares long and short range guns. Autocannons being shit has nothing to do with 250mm rails

It's the fact that autocannons get out paced by the range of pulses and the high damage of blasters. They bring nothing to the table beyond selectable damage which doesn't mean shit because everyone omni tanks for all resists equally
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>>174536313
what sort of cruiser fits do you have that get an omni tank?
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>>174536293
>tfw once fell for the "Help I'm tackled in system X" post in FW chat
>tfw when I got there in my T1 fit Hurricane I got ganked by 6 people
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>>174536197
Half of /dog/ is in Horde, the other half is in Goons.
Choose one :^)
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>>174535995
>only damage matters
>what is tracking, fitting, application, cap usage, damage, ammo types and tons of other factors

People don't use 720mm artillery because they're too difficult to fit. People don't use 650mm artillery because they're shit in every situation and still use gobs of fitting

No one uses quad light beams or dual 150mm rails because they're shit, do shit damage, have shit range and shit everything. No one uses medium focused beam lasers because they're shit

Everyone wants the highest tier weapon of a class. Seldom is there actually a significant trade off that people go for. Such as 425 autocannons vs 220s where 220s have much better tracking to the point people sometimes prefer them over the higher damage 425

Same shit with battleship weapons. Hell the only ship that can use tachyons are the nightmare because 4 guns instead of 8.ypu can't fit tachyons on an apocalypse or abaddon and no one uses them because the cap usage is way too fucking high
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>>174536197
join doomheim
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>>174536540
I fit a thorax to have equal resists using adaptive membranes and flavor hardeners

I can easy get a +/-3% resist profile between all my resists to the point that sometimes explosive resist is the highest and em is the lowest but even then the difference is so little that I don't get a real difference in damage taken when fighting selectable damage ships. It matters so little my rank only fluctuates like a few hundred ehp at the worst
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>>174536886
that sounds like a very shit fit, post it
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>>174536971
Damage control, two adaptive membranes and an explosive hardener gets you 76 em, 67 therm and kinetic and 75 explosive. Sure thermal and kinetic are the lowest but the resist is so high and my buffer so good that it really doesn't matter if they're using fusion ammo or phased plasma
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>>174537354
And before someone screams "but 76 vs 67 that's 9% more damage you take if they do run phased plasma"

Well 9% extra damage on what? 300dps the autocannons might be doing is only 27dps more? Woopty do. A flight of the lowest damage drones does more damage and that 27dps difference won't make the battle
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>>174537354
if you're not flying that with any logi then it's a real shitty fit, if you do have logi then why the fuck are you flying a thorax?
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>tfw u get your 7 year old account back
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and i'm just going to assume the last lowslot is a 1600mm plate or i'll have an aneurysm
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>>174537585
What's shitty? My resist profile? Because it's not. It's a standard buffer thorax. You can always drop 1 eanm for a magnetic field stabilizer
>>174537765
Yes it is with a 1600mm plate
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how come if the caldari are the jews and megacorporations and the gallente are the canadians and socialists that the gallente ships get all the branded SKIN things
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>>174537883
so what context are you flying this slow-ass no dps shitfit in?
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>>174536971
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>>174538554
It doesn't matter I was just saying that selectable damage doesn't help much when most people tank their ships to plug all their holes up
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>>174538929
most people don't omni tank their cruisers, see the good fit posted above you, it has a 20% difference between highest and lowest
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>>174539047
>most people don't because I said so

>this is a good fit

One fit was buffer, meant for a fleet with logical. Yours is more solo reliant on self reps. They've got two different purposes and even then you purposely left your explosive hole wide open which is dumb.

Most people do omni tank their ships. The only ones that can't really do that are t1 frigs and destroyers
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What time do the Sleepers go to sleep? They keep on attacking me.
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>>174409053
>1 billion
>expensive
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>>174536674
>>what is tracking, fitting, application, cap usage, damage, ammo types and tons of other factors

they keep making the fitting easier, and the tracking per range isn't really better on short range weapons
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>>174539673
Between 11:00-11:15 UTC

:^)
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>>174434854
>not reducing the price by 10s of Ks at a time to beat down the price, then buy out everything when its hit rockbottom price, only to re-order them all at the original price.
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is there even a use for t1 logi frigates
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Are meta levels still a thing? I can't seem to find them reliably in the info tab.
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>>174541025
They're getting ousted soon
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>>174540950
yea
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>>174542791
neat
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>>174543849
>>174542791
>>174540950
desu they were already pretty obsolete except for frigate applications. They're ok for what they do but frig logi is seen a lot less than say cruiser logi purely because the applications are better at those levels of EHP

With T2 logi frigs, even those are sparse however they're used more with T3D's and stuff but still aren't used that much
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Why doesn't the tail on the SOE battleship spin
I think that would be cute
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>joining PL
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Nothing wrong with joining the best alliance in EVE
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>>174545298
the best alliance in eve is goonswarm tho
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>tfw you aren't elite enough to join PL
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>tfw to elite too join CODE
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>>174547378
What's happening with CODE?

I haven't played in nearly a year and even when I did I rarely mined, but someone I knows says that they've been seeing CODE less and more people survive their ganks.
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>>174548264
Seem pretty active according to their ZKB.

https://zkillboard.com/alliance/99002775/
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>>174548387
that's pretty low for what code used to be
I mean the top killer for this week is nothing but noobships
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>>174535562
In addition to capless there are other consideratiins as well. Lets talk briefly about all the ways ac are better than other weapons. That 9% difference in resists? You can hurt it. With 120+ bullets per reload your marginally lower dps is supplemented by higher up time more tracking and selectable damage. Infact to mess with the odd reactive hardener its beneficial to have ac because rah responds to damage types inbound not proportions
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>>174536674
>People don't use 720mm artillery
whut
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>>174513714
>whfags venture out of their safe space
>get BTFO in lowsec because they have no idea how to play the real game
>complain because no one brawled them at 0 in some arranged meme pretend pvp fight
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>>174549689
>anchor up and press f1
>the real game
this is what nullbabs really believe?
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>>174549689
>>174549905
>Not realizing that true elite PvP is done in high sec
baka desu senpai
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Fleet Stabber, Fleet cane, Cynabal, Rupture, Sleip, Vaga, Muninn, Even the retarded Goon 1600mm plate and arty Cane works although it's retarded.

The only ship that can't run 720mm is Stabber because >stabber. It also doesn't make any sense.
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>Projectile
>Run out of ammo
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>Laser
>The capacitor is empty
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>"Hurricane, shoot that tower"
>"I can't, I'm reloading"
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>Hybrid
>Run out of ammo AND the capacitor is empty
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>xhe thinks reload of projectiles matters
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>>174551727
>xhe fell for the Clear Skies meme
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>log in
>neut in system
>log out

another good day of spess
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This is peak performance
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>>174552042
the bulkheads aren't even tier2
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>>174552415
Fitting CPU i guess
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>>174551885
The Tempest is actually pretty fun though
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>highsec gank a venture in 0.9
>long winded butthurt mail in broken english about how I am the reason he won't keep playing the game
>"Miner calm down, I offer a permit etc"

Is this the last bastion of fun in Eve?
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>griefing potential high entertainment value
targets out of the game before they're even a week old
Maybe high sec should be a safe space
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>>174553134
>ganking a venture
>be so desperate for acknowledgement you post it on 4 chins
>guys why is eve dying
Actually off yourself
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>eve is dying meme
agree he's a retard tho
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Fix T2 insurance and people will use hacs more.
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>>174553950
1.0 is a safe space for newbies, stay there if you don't want pvp, outside of that it's anything goes.

>>174554317
>eve is dying
>seeking attention on an anonymous image board
I posted it here because half of /eog/ are venture miners, and the other half are jaded enough to enjoy ganking if they gave it a shot.

>>174554391
:(
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>>174555098
Have they ever mentioned why the T2/navy insurance is laughable?
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>tfw navy battleships are an absolute meme
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https://zkillboard.com/kill/61612587/
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>tfw to intelligent too enter <0.5 sec
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>tfw you get left behind and the 250 man fleet has to fly back 4 jumps to save you from a Malediction and a Vexor
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>tfw cruising 2,5km/s in my mach
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>mfw 13au/s tengu
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>mfw cruising at 12km/s with my speedfit daredevil
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Speaking of going fast, has a group ever held races in EVE?
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>>174558395
not really, we know who would win, it'd be the fastest, most agile ship
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>>174558762
>not allowing webbing during the race
>fast agile ewar ships try to escape the huge multiweb death brawlers

It would be a nice tortoise/hare approach.
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>>174467816
So what did Stunt do? Last I saw he was flying meme shit against Goon shitters in some sort of autistic crusade to lose ships.
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Mix and match to make a race:

Style:
>Set path - through the rings style of racing, with rings consisting of mobile depots or other stationary deployables
>Free form - starting system and end destination system, can use any route to get there, told destination and given chance to plot path right before race starts, no one knows the routes the racers chose. better hope you don't run into a gatecamp
>Checkpoints - different locations in system that you have to reach before moving on to next one (star, specific moon or belt, etc)
>Endurance - See how many jumps you can get in Nullsec from the starting point with several gangs chasing down the racers
>Lost and Found - Start several rabbit holes deep in WH-space and have to scan your way back to K-space then make it to one of several end points in Hi-sec

Extras:
>Baton change - multi-system route and you have to dock and change ships (or racers) at certain point(s)
>Luck of the draw - Racers take turns choosing numbers corresponding to station containers supplied by organizer, inside is 1 or more ships + modules and they have to use only what's inside

Racer to racer interactions:
>Cap warfare allowed
>Webbing allowed
>Warp scram allowed
>Non-damaging drones allowed

Ship limits:
>Any ship allowed
>Only X class of ship
>Any class of ship besides X, Y, Z
>Only X faction allowed

Fitting limits:
>No cap batteries/rechargers etc
>No afterburners
>No T2 modules
>No T1 modules
>Has to max out PG or CPU or both
>Can only use X% of PG or CPU or both
>Only allowed X number of modules total
>All low slots must be mass increasing modules (armor plates etc)

Anything else you guys can think of to add?
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Is the reload time worth switching ammo types mid fight for the loss of dps? Also how can you tell what tank an enemy is fitting other than looking at the hit numbers mid fight and guessing from there?
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>>174563720
>Is the reload time worth switching ammo types mid fight for the loss of dps?

changing short range to long range ammo or vice versa? yes. always worth it.

changing projectile/missile? don't bother mid fight unless you are hitting into a stupid high resist (e.g. thermal/kin against T2/3 gallente or caldari cruisers)

>Also how can you tell what tank an enemy is fitting other than looking at the hit numbers mid fight and guessing from there?

Mostly guess based on the hull. If you are using projectiles, load explosive damage unless you are up against a T2 amarr ship, in which case you need to switch to EM.
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>>174562553
>fit a travelceptor
>win
No t2 ships / istabs I guess?
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>>174563720
Iirc there's a scanner that lets you know what they're fitting similar to how cargo scanners work, but you'd have to give up a mid for it.
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>>174563720
>is it worth switching ammo?
not really, that 10 seconds lost can seriously hurt you as thats 10 seconds you aren't doing damage. What ever ammo you're using if it actually does more damage you'll be pressed to try and make up for the lost time.

>how can you tell?
you usually just memorize what ships do what and how they fit hem
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>>174556802
Why are anime shitters the worst pilots?
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>>174555268
>half of /eog/ are venture miners
probs not tho hey
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>tfw some PL fuckers in combat rorquals keep interrupting our mining ops

How do you kill a rorq easily?
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>>174566342
they can't panic if you mine all the roids
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>>174525414
T2 1600mm bro. Try it.
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>>174565453
You explain how the vast majority knows nothing about the game then.
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>make FW alt to do fun honoribru pvp while alt and main 35 day skillque trains
>Join up with 3, "no API", "Alpha friendly", "Newbro needed" FW corps so I have someone to talk to
>State this is an alt, I won't need help, just want to have some fun and help them out
>3 responces
>all of them are declined
>"This character is too new, join on your main"

Wew, nice.
Looks like it's honoribru solo pvp for good.
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>CCP adds deadspace and officer siege modules with 30 sec cycle time and polarized capital weapons
nullsec fixed?
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>anime pic
>expect me to read
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>le i hate anime meem
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>>174568882
Shut up Stunt
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>>174567095
>FW alt
>not in 6bil pod with deadspace mods in your succubus
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Domination Explosive Deflection Amplifier
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oneiros
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>>174516480
Ccp
Do this
Thx
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I haven't played in two years and want to get back in. Is high-sec exploration still a thing? I think that was the last thing I was doing.
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>>174577803
Combat; farm escalations get sikkunt drops
Hacking bs; look for WHs, ensure they're safe and do your thing
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>>174577803
Running the data/relic sites in HS is almost never worth it. You can, however find sleeper caches that are good for running. Also wormholes that have pirate relic sites that are worth it in them.

Doing 3/10 DEDs and fishing for faction drops and escalations can also be decent isk/hr.
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>>174577803
>>174578021
I do my shit in a Gila, can do 4/10s ez
5/10 is a stretch but I've done it before
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1488
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>when you click V to try to refresh the page
been in the hole too long
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>>174578485
how do you click V?
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Okay, nerds, some quick questions for you:
1) If I like CK2 and similarly autistic games, that's a good indicator I'll like eve, right?
2) The fuck is up with this Alpha/Omega shit? I'm a Beta and I don't want to pay for anything, once I upgrade to Omega is it permanent? And how feasible is it?
Installing now, just want to know so I can know how invested to get in this game.
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>>174579560
1) the fuck is CK2?
2) you start as an alpha clone, you can only train certain skills and they train half as fast. CCP tries to tell you that omegas train twice as fast, but omegas train at the same rate that people have trained at since before there were even alpha and omega clones so that's bullshit. it's POSSIBLE to plex as an alpha clone, but highly unlikely. not highly unlikely as in "you probably won't be able to do it" but highly unlikely as in "you will have to play eve like it's a full time job to eke out enough shekels to barely scratch together enough money to buy a plex." when you upgrade to omega you will have to either keep buying plex every month or pay real life shekels as a monthly subscription.
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>>174579560
You might enjoy it if you like V2.
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>join wormhole corp
>director tells me he's making 12b per month with PI
>join his buyback program
>sell all my high sec assets to buy injectors and plex for PI alts
>spend a weekend setting up 90 planets
>contract him all my PI for free because that's the buyback rules
>"I'll pay you once this P4 has sold, anon"
>it's been 3 weeks and he still hasn't paid
>confront him
>get kicked from corp for 'causing drama' and not meeting the killboard quota
>can't afford to plex my 9 PI accounts
>45b wasted
>the rest of my stuff is stuck in their astrahus
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>>174579560
>>174579560
>1) If I like CK2 and similarly autistic games, that's a good indicator I'll like eve, right?
No, they're completely different games. Eve is far more autistic as you put it than CK2.

>2) The fuck is up with this Alpha/Omega shit? I'm a Beta and I don't want to pay for anything, once I upgrade to Omega is it permanent?
Alpha account is really just an unlimited trial. You have to keep purchasing a plex every month to keep an omega account.

>And how feasible is it?
Really depends on how determined you are at learning and making isk.

make sure you're using an invite for your account so you get the free skill points
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>>174580337
Well, hopefully, you learn from this.
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>>174580337
>killboard quota
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>>174579890
>>174579992
>>174580395
ty for the responses, will go die several times and report back
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>>174580337
sounds like a terrible corp desu
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>in dronelands renter corp
>have 50mil isk
>only 10 days left to make 40mil to pay my share of the rent
IM LITERALLY FUCKING TOSSING AND TURNING IN MY SLEEP
This must be what it feels like for people that live paycheck to paycheck
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>damnations

is this shitposting
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>>174583908
>it's another Satori and DTX episode
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>>174580337
>Killboard quota
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>just finished skills for a ship after several months
>mfw don't know what to do now
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>>174585665
eventually you're going to have to stop chasing after that "i want to fly this ship" feeling, buckle down, and get your big boy support skills to V
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>>174585665
get any remaining support skills
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>>174585665
>"you can be a healslut FAXer, just dont expect SRP"
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Flying Logi doesn't get you on killmails.
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>>174586310
>4 armor and 1 whore drone
nobody is going to notice
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>>174586519
or care
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>>174411718
most carrier ratters I've seen are hilariously incompetent, I'm not surprised
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>tfw 12m ticks in Gila

I guess that's what I get for being too lazy to train VNI skills.
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What are Ticks?
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>>174590184
the isk you earn every 20mins from bounties
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vargur
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>if your entire ship isn't 100% neutraliser immune then you are weak to neuts
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I have no money, should i spend all my first money i get to buy capitol parts BPOs?
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Spoon feed me on creating an Indy alt
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How fun is C5/6 pvp? My lower-class wh corp might be dying soon so I'm wondering if I should move up to higher class or just join a corp similar to my current one.
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>>174593982
Train laboratory skills
Train Industry skills
Train sci\ind skills required for stuff you want to make.
Realise that you should have started with training PI
Train for rorq.
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>>174594117
How's life in the low class WHs? I want to get into that with a few of my friends. How many people do you need to live in one, like for defending citadel and stuff.
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>>174594117
What corp are you with?
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>>174594306
I'd rather not say just yet, we're going to discuss our next move on the weekend so depending on the outcome we might not actually die. Our CEO seems to know a lot of people so we do have a few options, I'm just planning for the worst.

>>174594296
It's pretty fun. You've usually got a HS connection close by so you can still go shopping when you need to, and there's a lot of active corps to provide fights along with null holes for roaming. We did pretty well for ourselves with about 7 constantly active players, and up to 20 on scheduled rolling fleets.
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>>174594117
Hiclass holes are either HK or russians, so no fun allowed.
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Can someone tell me what moon mining is?
From what I've gathered, it's a one-man job as in one person does all the work and gets all the profit?

What about the upcoming refineries? The fuck are those?
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Will these:
1. get a brand new model, a mix of our current citadels and racial stations
2. simply turn into fortizars, austrahuses and keepstars
or
3. stay exactly the fucking same but with a tether now?
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>>174594814
Same
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>>174594814
>The four Outpost replacement Citadels will use upgraded and rescaled versions of the Outpost visual models and will therefore look very familiar to current nullsec residents.
>The one Conquerable Station replacement Citadel type will look like a Fortizar with a new unique color scheme.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=516650
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>>174594117
Can anyone give me an informed opinion? I know it's not just HK kicking everyone out, just like 0.0 isn't PL dropping everything.
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>>174595813
Well hiclass holes are also dead because the pve got nerfed to fuck.
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sup poors. git gud.
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Can I earn ISK mining without a rorq? I just want to be comfy
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>Mining
>Comfy
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>>174596047

You better put that back in your corp bank before someone drops your roles.
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>blops
>battleship sized cloaky jump portal machines backed to the brim with the most cutting edge electronics New Eden has to offer
>looks exactly like any old battleship
Nice lore, CCP
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>>174596115
that's mine. i pay enough in corp taxes. about 1bil per month at 5% with dem ratting ticks.
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>blops pilots
>the most entitled smug faggots imaginable next to supercap pilots
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Eos
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tfw have mining atl i thought i can just mine a bit in skiff because rorq is so much trainnig
went to belt, mine my silver omber
Mine whole cargo gay - 1.5m wroth of ore, can refine into about 1.8m minerals
In the meantime my ratter had 18m tick.
Also i had to warp out when rats came.

Is this how it is? Or was i just bad?
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>Corp killboard is just a link to zkill
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>>174598292
Mining only works in null, if you can compress in the same system you're mining in and you got a decent booster. A Hulk can make 50-60m/h.
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>>174599297
Im in null though but i have no idea how mining works...
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Explain this
https://zkillboard.com/kill/61713978/
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>>174599489
DC+afk or shitty bot.
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>>174599358
Join the mining fleet, find where the rorqs are. Fill the ore hold, open the rorq's fleet hangar, drop your ore there, RMB and compress it. Once compressed, drop that into your cargo hold.
Repeat until you're full. If you can't see the fleet hangar in the RMB menu then you will have to ask the rorq to open the hangar.
You can eject your cargo and pick it up later with a hauler; usually you gotta name the cans to avoid accidents.

If you are planning to solo mine, do it in ice belts or don't bother.
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Daily reminder that there's nothing wrong with capital ships at all
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daily kill yourself
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Daily reminder there's nothing wrong with cloaky camping
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Daily reminder that there's nothing wrong with low se- I can't do it.
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Daily reminder the best way to fit a Nestor is with lasers
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>>174600946
Dude I just put mega pulses on it and it used 90% it's power grid
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>>174601093
Can it fire those without running out of cap?
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>cap stable meme
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>guns on nestor
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>nestor
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You say it's not too late but deep down you know it is
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How do i make rats target only 1 ship out of all ships on grid, are webs and shit the only option?
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>tfw deep down you know that your alliance is dying and won't last much longer but it would be such a hassle to look for an other decent corp/alliance along with all the interviews and background checks and you just kinda roam around aimlessly through space wondering if you should stop playing this shit game
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>>174602331
Nope
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>>174603091
Depends on the rats and the activity you're doing (difters, missions, sleepers, incursions)

As a general rule, most NPCs really hate ewar like target painters/damps but there is still a degree of randomness to it.
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>>174603140
sounds like fcon desu
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>>174603140
Steal everything that's not nailed down
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>>174603445
>get branded as a spy/thief, that'll really help you get into your next alliance!
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>>174603534
Don't get caught pleb, do it with a fucking alt

Steal the shit then trade it to an alpha account that isn't linked to your account. It'll just look like a casual trade or sale
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>>174603643
>yeah guys I gave this alpha character access to all hangars and he kinda stole all of it but it's totally not my alt I swear
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>>174603275
Being in FCON is great desu senpai. They're not a meme alliance like TEST or Co2 so you don't get farmed as much and if some w-space griefers pop out of a hole there's always someone dumber than you that gets caught and buys you time to get your shit to safety.
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>w-space griefers
I think you mean 'content creators'
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>Being in FCON is great
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>>174593034
But you can't be immune to neuts, the diminishing returns makes it getting past 80 impossible
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>Do you have any experience with game design?
>Yes i was a content creator for CCP
>Oh wow! What did you do?
>Killed some people in w-space
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>>174603960
We are actually pretty meme alliance these days. We can't even form proper response fleets so goons and PL are farming us day and night. Wish I could find comfy alliance boi ._.
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>w-space
>killing people
are you trying to ruse me anon?
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>>174604642
Unless you're implying nullbabbies aren't people, no.
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>>174604728
nullbabbies are bots, not people
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>Being in FCON is great
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I wish I had enough nerds at my disposal to defend a market fortizar or azbel around jita.

Even at 0.1% tax, there's literally billions of isk in market taxes per day.
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How much does a t2 fitted Carrier costs?
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>>174606015
Ballpark 2b
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>xXDEATHXx
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more like xDDD
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>>174603761
>I gave

First of all there are no logs of who gave what roles to who

Second. You steal the shit then either trade it to a random alpha you just made, you don't tell anyone about it and you either undock and jet can it to them or trade it all in one go and drown out the trade log by either getting ratting ticks, buying from orders/selling to orders or what ever it takes to push it off the edge
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What do capsuleers eat?
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>>174610304
Capsuleers sustain themselves with player tears.

If you're asking a serious lore question, whatever they want to I'd imagine.

If they get fat they can just jump to another clone.
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>Yesterday I lost a Sratios totally. 5B isk at a data site 1 jump from Jita in hisec.
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>an americlap tells me he could care less
what did he mean by this?
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>>174610731
Being a capsuleer would be awesome.

I could eat like a whole lasagna and then kill myself.
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>>174611614
Yea...being non capsuleer sucks.

Like, i wish i could just kill myself.
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>Being in FCON is great
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>Kill yourself because tfw no gf
>Respawn in a clone
Fuck that I don't want to be a capsuleer
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autism
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>>174615297
Wtf is that in BLUE?
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>>174616000
Bounties.
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newfaggot here, what should i run for solo pvp in low/null? been running an autocannon armor-tanked rupture to mild success, hurts when i lose the damn thing though
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>>174617180
firetail and vigil fleet issue are nice if you want to fly minmatar
>>
oneiros
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Thinking of joining a wh corp soon, but i'm awful at scanning. How worth it is getting 5's and 4's in scanning skills? I've been told you can scan just as good with poor skills if you know what you're doing.
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>>174623157
You can pinpoint just about anything with all 3's, you'll just need to do a few extra scans.

Notable exception are some exploration sites which will require at least 4 skills and some scan boosting midslots.
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What do I need for 80mil ticks?
A supercarrier?
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>>174623862
You need to believe in yourself.
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>Being in FCON is great
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>buyout someones sell order fuck up
>get this in return
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>>174625645
What_is_autism.jpg
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>>174625645
How badly did he fuck up?
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>>174623862
Yes

A super carrier can get 350m an hour easy
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>>174603960
Does FCON still have that rule against high sec ganking?
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>sov is not worth holding guys I swear
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>>174630985
Delete this
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>Being in FCON is great
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retribution
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>Rei
>best anything
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>>174630985
>sovnull
>60m/hour VNI ratting
>150m/hour carrier ratting
>340m/hour super ratting
>120m/hour rorq mining
>easy to shut down
>forced to do meme pvp to defend your space

>lowsec
>200-500m/hour FW missions
>250-700m/hour lvl5 missions
>don't have to do shit you don't want
>live in npc stations

>w-space
>400m/hour in a rattlesnake
>800m+/hour in a dread
>only risk your ship and a cheap citadel
>can't farm sites 23/7
>needs some alts and autism

>highsec
>100-200m/hour lvl4 blitzing
>100-250m/hour incursions
>zero risk
>never lose a ship
>can never get shut down

what's so great about sovnull?
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>live in npc stations
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>>174632637
>700m/hour lvl5 missions
at what, 5000 isk per LP?
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>>174632963
in a hel
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>250m/hour incursions
>zero risk
>never lose a ship
Lovin these memes
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>>174632637
>250-700m/hour lvl5 missions
I assume you'll have to join some meme alliance so you can do these in peace?

Also I heard they nerfed fighter sig and put extra spawns in the missions so you actually lose fighters really easily now (at least with a regular carrier). Any truth to that?
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>>174633189
>lose ship
>it's insured by the League of Autists so you lose nothing except some time to buy a new ship
W E W
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>>174404738

the sebiestor engineering
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>>174632637
>forced to do meme pvp to defend your space
I know it's hard to believe, but some people actually find that fun.
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>>174632637
>orbit rock
>launch drones
>afk
>intel tool will keep you safe while you watch tv shows
>do it with as many accounts as you want
Why bother with active ratting?
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>>174635307
Nice try PL
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Are T2 logi frigates used at all?

Are logi still wanted as much as before?
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>>174637247
no

yes
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>>174637247
Train for logi cruisers.
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Ive menaged to earn enough isk to plex my account after only about 20 days.
5 days later and now I'm back up to 800million

Is it more worth it for me to just get a skill injector or should i extend my sub a bit more first?
Im thinking that a skill injector is less sp per isk effective but its instant so it woupd allow me to make more isk to begin with, seems like a legit idea, and since i'm new to the game my character only has 1.4million sp
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>>174639465
Inject and invest in whatever money making activity you want.
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>>174639465
>a skill injector is less sp per isk effective
Yes
>its instant so it woupd allow me to make more isk to begin with
That would depend entirely on what activity you want to do. If you're doing exploration, the skills are really not going to improve your isk per hour all that much
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>kitsoon
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>oh-nei-rohs
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>>174640893
>That would depend entirely on what activity you want to do. If you're doing exploration, the skills are really not going to improve your isk per hour all that much
this is why i mine
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>Golem
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>>174643329
You grinded a plex with a T1 mining barge in 20 days?

How did you not die from boredom?
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>"Huge spike in *system*"
>"Lots of neuts"
>"Tons of guys in system"
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>>174644238
>"massive fleet nearby"
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>>174644238
Are you upset that your ratting gets interrupted or are you upset that he didn't give accurate numbers?
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>>174644724
Saying "huge spike" in intel channels means next to nothing to anyone.
Is a "huge spike" ten Punishers?
Or is it 200 Hurricanes?
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>>174645109
FC, I'm being shot at
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>that guy who broadcasts for bomb damage
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>those guys who broadcast for bomb damage
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Does setting up a skill queue and letting your account expire still work?
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>tfw you're at 50% armor 0% shield
>don't broadcast for bomb damage
>die to 3 guys who aren't even shooting primary
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>>174646079
They fixed that years ago m8.
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>>174630985
What's the population percentages for null and WH again. Seems like WH makes more per capita.
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>>174637247
No. EVery man and his dog can fly a Logi, they just fucking hate it because you don't get to whore on killmails. People need tacklers and GOOD DPS more. None of this 4/5 bullshit.
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>>174646079
I think you keep training for 72 hours as long as you don't log in.
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>>174647543
less than 5% live in WHs, CCP needs to nerf that isk faucet.
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>Stunt is attempting to meme
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>>174648324
They already did. They're garbage compared to what they used to be. Once upon a time you could plex off a half hour of ratting a day with a 16 man Fleet.
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>GOOD DPS
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>Letting meta fit shitters be dps when they could be the logi shitters.
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>Not just sticking them in a Griffin
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>>174646079
All of my 4 accounts kept training from december until around a month ago when I came back, all expired since early january.

Maybe I got lucky?
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How do you kill a combat rorq in under 5 minutes?
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>>174654034
mine his roids
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>>174654034
Jam his drones
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Alright guys. I know /dog/ is all about elite PvP but let's talk about the monthly economic report for a moment.

https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/monthly-economic-report-march-2017/

>bounty faucets skyrocketing
>mineral prices crashing
>delve imports sitting at 40T with only ~1T in losses
>available cash continues to climb
How long until something breaks and we get some sort of economic upheaval?
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hello
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>>174655173
what people don't realize is the 40t import is all the hkplnc dreads being imported to delve to kill goons.
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>>174655612
>40t in dreads
That's around 12 thousand dreads. No way. Might account for a couple trillion, but that's still 35T+ unaccounted for.
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I'm getting fed up of CCP's methods of development. Discontinue evelopedia - Months later create new fiction portal. New NPE all the fucking time, forgetting to take out or change the career agents to reflect. Pre-trained alpha skills messing with natural progression and learning.
Most things the change seem cosmetic but they keep applying layer after layer of makeup that the skin beneath is beggining to corrupt. the pours can't breath, nigger.

I'm so fed up of this shit I can barely find the energy to type this. i've only been playing 3 days after a 2 year break, damnit.
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>people who fly in first person
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>people who don't dscan every time they take a breath
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>>174659973
>dscan every 5 seconds
That's too slow to catch faggots before they cloak up.
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>people who stagger their gun slot placement so that they all appear in a specific way on the ship model
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>>174660204
no its not
getting off dscan when you cloak takes FOREVER
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https://zkillboard.com/character/2112352882/
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How do I gather basic intel on a region of space? I'm interested in exploring (literally scanning) the Great Wildlands, but don't really know how to begin finding out about the area beyond looking through the star-map at constellations, number of recent kills, traffic, etc. Dotlan maps doesn't seem to show much; I was expecting a least a corp activity log or some such. I can't seem to make much sense of Zkillboard either. I could just go there and find out, sure, but I'm treating this as an exercise in using (or tying to use) 3rd party intel gathering whatsits.

How would you go about gathering intel on a region of space?
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>>174662784
Sov.space. Check the alliances, then the corps within the alliances, then zkill.
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>drones spread their dps even when you have focus fire checked
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>playing coc on the respawn option
>spawn with intense heavy bleeding
>no healing items
>die in 3 seconds

whats the fucking purpose?
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>>174665572
Wrong general, friend
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>>174650940
What do you even do with 4 omega accounts?
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>>174596575
>next to

Every time I've been in a gang with black ops bridging the blopser has been a bigger faggot prima donna than titan pilots, by far.

Not even close really.
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Anyone else lagging like shit for no reason?
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>people who put sebos on their fleet fitted ships to get on more kills
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When are we going to get the next World War Bee?
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https://zkillboard.com/kill/61713978/
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>>174669635
LEAVE GOONSWARM ALONE!!!
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>>174669635
When init leaves syndicate.
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>>174669739
What is this shitfit?
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>>174669937
People's getting too fat. They need another war.
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>oneiros
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>twoiros
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>>174671146
if only.
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>cruor
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meme
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>>174671427

that ship is almost down to navy frig cost now.

and still nobody flies it.
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>>174672205
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>>174662784
In the map section you can check all the details of the systems including sec status, jumps in the last hour, npc's killed, ships lost etc.
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>jackdaw
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>Scanning for a highsec
>C4 shitters rolled a hole on me while I was scanning the C3 out of it
>Now stuck with the only other hole leading to the middle of Delve
How long until new holes spawn after the old ones collapse?
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>>174670051
Redpill me on INIT
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>>174660219
I do that.
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>>174673479

about 35 seconds.

that only works for the static holes though.

and it's going to go somewhere very far different.

I hope you have your scan alt ready to get you home.
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>>174673549
Goon pets
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>>174673549
The only half decent PVP alliance that's blue with goons. Getting their bum pushed in by horde and NC. They live in NPC null, pretty far away from goons at the moment. Recently lost Cloud Ring.
Blue with Project Box. Lots of people hate them, they only have an EUTZ.
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>>174673835
Yeah got a scan alt but I still have my main floating around like a dickhead praying to god the C5 was a static and not just the Null.
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>>174673479
so go into null and look for holes
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eris
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>>174673549
They're getting farmed by Horde and NC.
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>init
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rolling new character

r8 ;)
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>>174676651
T H I G G
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>>174676651
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>>174676651
I can't wait to gank her, if you know what I mean.
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>>174676651
>Dem abs
I want her to dom me.
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>Initiate duel
>dock up immediately
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>Being in FCON is great
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>fcoon
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>>174680020
>>174680020
Where we're going, we don't need cap.
>>174680020
>>174680020




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