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Because no one else was going to make it edition.

Previous Thread: >>174375006

>New V105 patch is out for PC/consoles reveived the patch earlier today.

https://forhonor.ubisoft.com/game/en-us/news-community/152-288027-16/release-notes-for-v105

>Leaked Centurion / Ninja Image
http://imgur.com/a/r8jXO

>New players:
http://pastebin.com/55KZTiUK (embed)

>Multiple hero video guides
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkiUfT_3_4AnTBKwzZQO7-fDgKDzwPRPr

>Wikis:
http://forhonor.wikia.com
http://forhonor.gamepedia.com/For_Honor_Wiki

>Character damage values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wwr17AtTDFU3BZY_81axLVMKdHdNZuV0wGOb589VKgc/edit#gid=0

>Gear modifier values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mPLuxn-bPMwxOotsIL8lM-x0jP101dIbUnMD1ten7ik/edit#gid=154396609

>Friends list sign up Doc:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe46v1-5y3m5IbPVaP1NRaEjU7tO3YWE_fZkR4dQ5C8nBwI5Q/viewform?c=0&w=1

>For those that have signed up:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b8fuKwrDWqaprZE9mRhDtgDRqkZHIabBfum-jHumLKw/edit#gid=943442915

>War of Factions:
https://forhonor.ubisoft.com/game/en-us/war-of-factions/

>PVP Stat Tracker:
https://fhtracker.com/

>Story mode collectibles:
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93082/article/for-honor-all-knights-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93191/article/for-honor-all-vikings-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93397/article/for-honor-all-samurai-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/

**ATTENTION CONSOLE BROS**
There is now an official PS4 and XB1 Community!

If you would like to join, search For Honor General (PS4)
For Honor General Official (XB1)
or Message/add TheSteroid386 (PS4) or metalkid267 (XB1) and we will invite you.
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Reminder that rolling out of Shoulder Bash doesn't put you at a stamina disadvantage.

https://clips.twitch.tv
/BlatantAbstemiousSharkJonCarnage
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>>174452705
>reveived
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is this game even alive anymore?
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>>174453013
If rolling away is the only thing you can do against Shoulder charge, it might as well be a disadvantage.
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Has anyone else not gotten their round 3 rewards yet?

We are closing in on end of round 5, goddamn ubisoft.
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>pastebin
>(embed)

The last OP bamboozled you real good here.
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>>174453160
It's not the only thing you can do though.
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>>174453028
Turns out it doesn't even matter and large amounts of players are unable to download the patch, me included.
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I miss metaldad....
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>>174452705
If nobody else was going to make it, perhaps there was no need to make it at all.
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>>174453160
You roll away only if you keep guessing wrong
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>>174453972
you scared him off with your hungry asspussy.
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Orochis are literally unbeatable. You can't deny me. I fucking hate them more than anything else and I hate playing against half the shitty fucking spam characters in this mess of a game.
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So I'm not the only one that fought the Captains in the training yard, right?
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>>174454560
If you are going to complain about the game when you only have a couple of hours in it then you need to go and stay go
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>>174454560
well tell me anon what kind of orochi assraped you?Zonespammer?
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>>174454757
I've been playing for ages and I fucking hate them and I hate you
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>>174454750
All I can imagine is Momji in the background in a smug face
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>>174453028
god bless this woman and her perky nips.
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>>174454750
>wait for a while to see if they do something else other than training
>nobushi charge all of them
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>>174454826
Literally every single one I have fought, spamming dashes, attacks out of nowhere, hitting me through shit, fuckin done man
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>>174453013

Fuck off, shill.
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>>174454560
They can be very hard to deal with then they feint the top heavy and then go into top light. The best thing to do is expect top light and zone, and once you get his pattern you parry the top light and punish. Also doing your own attacks of course.
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>>174455184
If they spam dashes just wait for them to come close and guardbreak them
keep your guard left/right and guard up only if you see them attack
don't blame us,blame ubicock if we hit you while you block,it something common that i see 99% of the time when i play orochi and i know it's annoying
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>>174454875
>Waah i can't beat a char that only attacks from 2 sides
git gud look at the animation for the zone
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>>174455058
Momiji actually got stuck in spawn during that run of the mission.
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>no nerf for Warden
Depressingly unsurprising.
>Conqueror's notes actually include complaining that Warden couldn't shield bash into double light on him
Whichever Warden maining dev that's doing this needs to face the rope.
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>>174455823

This is something that more people need to realize. The animation is really what is the give away. The indicator could be anything, and they all look the same.

The people who reliably parry lights recognize the animations, even if they don't consciously realize it.
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>patch wasn't enough to rekindle my desire to play law, let alone duel with him.

All it really took was a law mirror match, and the subtle nerfs they made.
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>patch finally unlocks the level 1 paints that were locked because uplay lmao
>now the knight/viking/samurai attack and defense paints are gone
why can't ubisoft do anything right?
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>>174457221

I wish they'd remove the "You need X color paint for X team"

The only time you can use any of the other colors is in duels, which is almost never. It's not like everyone doesn't have a big fucking colored shield above their names. Let's have free-for-all colors.
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>>174457495
I'd be fine with forced team colors, if all of the "special" colors you get from Outfits or Story Mode weren't arbitrarily restricted to neutral only.

>unlock outfit with a primarily blue color scheme
>not usable for blue team
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>>174456736
Why does Warden need a nerf, exactly?
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>>174457042
what
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>>174458441
This, but for all colors. Why the fuck is Red Dusk not an attacker color? AND WHY IS THE CLOSET RED/BLACK/WHITE ALTERNATIVE FOR ATTACKERS REP 10? Why in the hell couldn't they just've let us pick out our own three-color combos, just with team specific options?

>>174459260
You new?
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>>174459609
No, actually. I play high level players (rep 20+), and every single time they're able to counter Wardens. They've a glorified Orochi with an unsafe zone and a retarded top-light.

Go ahead, shoulder-bash at high level play and see what happens. That works on new players, but it's pretty easily countered if you realize the niche of the class you're playing. Adapt.
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>>174459784
they're*
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>>174459784
i mean there's a reason everyone bitches about warden pk and roach. Their shitter killers, so naturally only shitters bitch about them.
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>ps4 patch just dropped
>get into duel
>PK
>pick Ken
>still can't open
>PK still attacks faster than the indicator
>get her down to one bar
>she just starts spamming zone
>die
>first round ends, they immediately start spamming emotes
>quit

Alll that hullabaloo for nothing eh? I'll just wait till ninja comes out then I'll see if the game is playable then.
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>tfw prefer dominion because it's the least chat-drama heavy mode
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>>174459784
High level Warden is all about shoulder bash.

Just look at Legion, he is one of the best players at the moment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jETgDKRUlgc

If you don't play like him, you are just low level.
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>>174460562
That's why I like it. People just shut up and play, for most part. Recently it's been a lot of "GREAT MATCHMAKING UBISHIT xD" and people ragequitting at the smallest thing or as soon as the enemy starts snowballing.
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>>174460720
Tru3Talent isn't even that good. He had so many chances to punish Legion, but he didn't for the sake of the video. He punished him with a few heavies, and then stopped because he realized it was effecient, and didn't want it to seem like SB could be countered. He could've done the Raider unlock bug, but he chose not to. Y'know why? To make it seem like there's a problem, when there really isn't. He wouldn't have lost the third round. It was fairly obvious that the Warden was going to use the zone attack. If he blocked it, he had a free GB and would've won.

Also, Legion utilized soft-feinting.
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>>174457042
Lawbringer patch changes

>The Long Arm now guarantees a Side Heavy Attack (but not Top Heavy).
>Light Riposte applies Stun on Hit (Hit and Regular Block recovery branchings into Chain increased to 200ms from 100ms).
>Parry now guarantees an Impaling Riposte or a Make Way.
>Make Way has Hyper Armor, damage increased to 25 (from 20).
>Swift Justice (HLH) Light Attack startup decreased to 500ms (from 700ms), Top Light Attack damage increased to 15 (from 10), Side Light Attack damage increased to 15 (from 8).
>Book, Chapter and verse (LHL) Top Heavy Attack startup decreased to 1000ms (from 1100ms), Side Heavy Attack startups decreased to 900ms (from 1000ms), Top Heavy attack damage increased to 35 (from 20), Side Heavy attack damage increased to 30 (from 20), Top Light Finisher attack damage increased to 15 (from 10), Side Light Finisher attack damage increased to 15 (from 8).
>Judge, Jury and Executioner (LHH) 1st Top Heavy Attack startup decreased to 1000ms (from 1100ms), 1st Side Heavy Attack startups decreased to 900ms (from 1000ms), Heavy Finisher Unblockable attack damage increased to 45 (from 30).
>Removed Hyper Armor from Hit and Miss Recoveries for Shove.

Where are those nerfs you're talkin' about?
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>>174460557
Ken's side step heavy is also still unsafe on block
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>>174460720
I'm a rep 17 warden main and i do use pizza combos but holy shit that is just stupid he is ONLY doing bashes.
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>>174460993
The problem is that if you go for an atack the Warden can cancel and parry, if you dodge he can GB you and if you stay still he can just let it go.
That's pure guess.
You should be able to react to it.

And yeah, Tru3 isn't that good.

>>174461596
Because that's the best opener in the game, why trhow an atack that can be parried if you can just spam shoulder?
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>>174454750
I kept crashing when I opened crates on that mission, so I sprinted through the whole thing to maximize my chance of actually finishing it.
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>>174454750
Yea I ran in and just dueled the kensei while the grunts just slowly paced around watching then I executed him and cheesed it without fighting anyone else straight to the elephant
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>>174461920
>>174460720
>>174456736
>>174453160

You have been shitting up the last 4 threads crying like a child about the shoulder bash. We all read the notes that its getting nerfed next week, bitching about it now isn't going to change anything till then. Your insufferable bitching is annoying. Stop.
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>>174459405
>>174461080
In revenge you cannot get a heavy after a knockdown right off the bat anymore.

I also noticed that getting a top heavy feels less consistent (after dashing forwards). Unsure about this note though.

Long arm isn't as spammy as it was before. They definitely did something to it.
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>>174462818
Pissed they're finally nerfing your cheese character, are we?
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>>174460562
I would too except half the fucking matches some schmuck on the losing team ragequits right at the end & ruins it for everyone else.
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>>174463445
I dont even play the warden, I main the fucking Kensai, but your acting like a child and your a band wagon bitcher. I bet you cried last week over the Shug and the week before that over the Conq. Just stop. Your fucking toxic.
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Do we have new patch notes already?
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>>174461920
>The problem is that if you go for an atack the Warden can cancel and parry
thats one of the options, it can't be done on reaction to attacks faster than 600ms
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Is there any good way to use the flail charge on conq besides in ganks/team fights where you can bonk someone with a top heavy as when they do something?
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>>174463545
It's funny how you still think you're talking to one person.
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>>174463968
Post the fucking (you)'s then
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Not sure whats going on im getting inconsistent results. Don't have gear on
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>>174464129
most classes have a very hard to execute high damage throw combo

its done with action queuing before the throw finishes
for example
warden
>sidethrow > before the throw finishes > side heavy and move in that direction > q top heavy right after for 70 dmg

pk has similar with 93 dmg

and lawmans combo is i ,believe, >forward throw > dash > light > top heavy
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>>174464038
In before shopped.
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If the Centurion isnt some Leonidas tier gameplay I have no interest
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>>174460993
>he could have done the raider unlock bug but chose not to, to make it seem like there's a problem when there isn't
Do you even realize how retarded that sounds?
Read it again.
Do you see where some people would take exception?
Can you spot it?
>there's no problem because you can abuse a bug to escape it
Huh yeah ok, whatever you say t. scumbag warden

>pre-empting the charge with a heavy is an efficient punish and he deliberately stopped using it because viewership conspiracy bullshit
Anon, forgetting that the warden can cancel & parry that shit, you can see the irish-fag continue to attempt that, and the warden just stayed out of range.
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>>174464469
What the fuck does that mean?
Valk is basically a Hoplite with a tiny shield.
Why would a re-imagined Roman Centurion be anything like a Spartan Hoplite?
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>>174464469
I'll be a bit peeved if the Shinobi doesn't have some kind "get over here" ability with his kusari-gama.
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>>174464769
you are wrong, >>174460993 he is right

raider is one of the best classes to counter warden
and he just stood there whining for the sympathy points

and
>not using "exploits" when they are allowed and then whining that someone uses them
better don't come to the tournaments or stay silent if you expect it to be like a regular 1v1 matchmade game
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>>174464775
People are retarded man.
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>>174465108
>one of the best classes to counter him
>loses 46-54
k, whatever you say

>muh exploits are legit tournament tactics
cancer, and unsurprising from a warden
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>>174465859
tournament play != regular matchmaking

unsurprising to come from a whining shitter
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>playing lawbro
>at the point now where everyone i face does the heavy -> feint -> grab combo or waits for you to do something
>no normal attacks land unless they're mid combo
>play against orochis & nobushis
>no penalty for them to constantly keep dashing backwards and creating gaps to spam heavies because you can't confirm a grab after a heavy parry.
>beserkers and pks just play the feint -> light spam game until you're either dead or they've been parried into oblivion, each fight's outcome feels random at best
>for some ridiculous reason big guys in for honor have slower guard changes, basically makes parrying/blocking impossible against these two when they know what they'e doing
>conqs just spam a vortex
>guard change is too slow for me to react between a warden left zone or an up light
>long arm of the law is one of the most telegraphed moves, basically worthless -- even if your opponent is in the corner he can dash in place for invul frames

lads I think I need to take a break. game just feels like i keep seeing the same shit every game and skill isn't really a factor.
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>>174464832
I'd say there will be a feat involving tripping someone or pulling them in with the hook, if not an execution
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>good at warden
>good at conq
>good at fucking lawbringer
>still shit at peacekeeper
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>>174466396
Good, we don't need another abusive PK spamming crap up in this game until we finally fix her spam for console. Just keep improvong every other character
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>tfw still haven't picked a main

>warden
>looks great but is boring to play
>kensei
>looks like shit but is great fun
>LB (pre-patch)
>looks great but is shit
>Raider
>looks great but is shit
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So what are y'alls priorities with gear stats? Like in each category, which stat do you boost at the cost of which other stat?

For me it's:
>boost Exhaustion recovery/lose Debuff resistance
>boost Sprint speed or Block Damage/lose Execution health regen
>boost Stamina regen/lose Revive speed
>boost Attack/lose Defense
>boost Revenge gain by defense/lose Feat cooldown reduction
>boost Throw distance/lose Revenge gain by injury

That's the non game-mode/character specific, all purpose stat setup anyway. Like I could lose Sprint for Execution regen and Block res for Revive if I'm using an Elimination dedicated build for example.
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>>174466396
You post like that's a bad thing. You're not a total shitter Anon, be proud of that.
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>>174466602
Raider is fun if you learn how to pull off all of the moves the hero has. Imo, it's pretty rewarding to actually outskill another player, but yeah, it can definitely be an uphill battle But I play for semi competetive fun
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>play as valk
>mix-up the shit out of a warden
>he gets revenge
>makes 0 difference
>more mix-ups
>execute him after a flawless fight
>error, session migration failed
lol you guys can dish it out but you can't take it, can you?
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>>174466990
As far as I can tell Raider's moves are feint into stunning tap, waste half your stamina on an unblockable because you can't get a heavy off and then pray your opponent cant parry.
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>>174466669
Remember, rep 3+ gear boosts 2 different stats but decrease one by a ton, and unless block damage or block dame resistance got buffed this patch, I wouldn't use em. Also debuff resist helps for lower effects bleed, stun and all that but just got nerfed for cgb time, which I barely discovered today, so it is still a pretty solid stat to buff
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>>174467015
>play as valk
>these Wardens players, am I right?
,':^\
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>>174467015
>hahaha my cancer beat yours
>can i get an upvote guyz?
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>>174466602
Warden is pretty fun if you play a feint heavy game. I think my favorite is when I do top heavy, top heavy into fient then top heavy when they fall for the faint.
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>>174467140
Yeah, raider is sort of a worse kensei, but the carry is fun I guess, and buff musclegirls
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>>174467015
Did he even try to shoulder bash you? Did he even vortex you? Fucking Christ this is how Hitler killed the Jews.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/forhonor/comments/66c2xb/not_today_warden_not_today/

The warden didn't even abuse SB. He was just trying to spike him. It's like just because the other player is a Warden, it's fair game to be a shit head about it. It's a witch hunt on Reddit. Not sure why I read it.
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>>174467832
9/10 times if you see someone bitching about Warden in game or in /fhg/ they're from reddit.

Fuck even bots can escape from the "vortex".

>t. kensei main
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Why is it that I main LB and now post patch I can't win a match with him, especially a mirror match
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>>174467832
>literally linking reddit

If anyone gives a shit about their thoughts or discussion just fucking go there and stay there holy shit
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>>174468156
The issue lies in them being the majority. The voice of the community. It's a issue what they think, I read the Reddit posts because it can decide where this game goes in direction. They are fags though.
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>>174460993
>High level Warden play doesn't happen because it easily gets countered
>Actually here's one of the best players nonstop abusing shoulder bash as Warden
>THE GUY HE WAS PLAYING AGAINST COULD HAVE COUNTERED BUT CHOOSE NOT TO SO HE COULD PRETEND SHOULDER IS A PROBLEM
Holy shit Warden mains are fucking pathetic
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If the Warden's vortex isn't so broken what am I supposed to do as a Lawbringer? Dodge/Dodge>shove gets me hit and against a wall I have no idea what to do. Top light doesn't seem to come out fast enough either.
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>>174468832
Take a couple bashes to find out if he cancels into gb a lot or just does the light attacks. If it's light attacks dodge and punish, if it's gb, cgb
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Is there anything more boring in the game than a lawbringer mirror?
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>>174469004

Problem is that LB can't punish it right now. Even if we did it only gives us a light.
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>>174469131

Conq mirror.
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>>174469160
Of you dodge the SB I think it's a free GB
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>>174469459
lb goes into shove after dodge
if he waits, it becomes techable
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>>174468832
I can top light the warden with lb just fine maybe you do it too late
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>tfw cant afk farm brawl vs ai (victimless crime if you play until the other guy quits) after patch today
jesus i dont want to actually play this game, i just want to dress up my characters
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>>174467015
there's no cure for this cancer son

it's terminal
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>>174454560
Mmmmmmmm your tears sustain the orochi
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>>174463968
If they're saying the same thing then the same responses apply, regardless of whether they are the same person, they might be wrong, but not for the reason you said.
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>>174467285
>>174467348
>>174470221
Baa ;^)

>>174467568
We were only a minute & a half into the match, he never had the opportunity lol
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>>174467404
You'll only hit the first top heavy if they're a shitter, unless you mean wall stun from throw, in which case I'll try that. When I played him I liked GB-SH-SHfeint-GB-SH
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>>174470973
In a minute and a half the Warden had plenty of chances. Your a sour cunt for assuming every Warden is SB fag and your the type of person to hang niggers because it's what the cool kids are doing.
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It pisses me off so much that you can't get any of the fucking decorative items that the characters wear in the campaign.

>Instead of making these cool items a reward for beating the game on X difficulty, let's keep players from getting them and release them at a later time and steel price that makes them impossible to obtain without buying one of our packs!
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>>174471119
Either way you cut it the feint game on the warden is fun. The top heavy deals so much damage it just crushes assassins.
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>>174469131
I have a lot of fun with LB mirrors, good mind games, extra satisfying when you read them well and just body them. Mirrors are great in small doses because you know it's a not a matchup that's determining the outcome in any way, just skill and knowing the character.
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>>174471218
k
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>>174467568
"W-warden can't be beaten if they use shoulder bash! I refuse to believe it!"
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Where can I watch the last tournament?
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>>174471323
You're correct. It's the only thing aside Crushing counterstrike I like about warden. I don't like vortex, it's boring and unrewarding on a personal level because you know you're not using your skill to win. If I can't feel like I outplayed the enemy it feels like an empty victory, I hope the nerf fixes that so I can enjoy warden again, I know I can just refuse to use vortex if I want, but I'm not autistic.
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>>174467568
>>174471218
>not every warden is a SB fag
Right, and not every conk is a bash-fag.
Except they're all bash-fags, just to a greater or lesser extent.
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Ranked next week?
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>>174471723
>generalizing Wardens.

Where did the shoulder bash touch you?
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>>174471723
Well conk now cant counter guard break, or block during/out of a bash miss, so using it against a player with a brain is suicidal. It's now a liability that would actually make him better if it was removed so he could at least dash gb without bashing.
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>>174471708
Same. SB mixup really sucks all the fun out of him.
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I really want this ornament and symbol.
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I SWEAR IF ONE MORE FUCKING PERSON CALLS HIM KENSAI
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>>174472617
make you wonder how much crap they have hidden in files
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>>174472687
Seriously, the campaign weebs look rad as hell.
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>See Valks sweep coming from a mile away
>Dodge
>Still hits me mid dodge
>Block valks second light
>Sweep still comes out

This bitch is buggy as fuck
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>>174472769
cant have Aiyu's head either

which doesnt even match her helmetless head
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>disconnect
>disconnect
>disconnect
>disconnect
Remind me why I play this again?
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>>174472262
Yep, I picked him up a few days ago and played him up to rep 1, had really good fun but by the time I was at rep 1, and good at vortex, he'd become boring. I honestly wouldn't mind shoulder bash if it worked like this:

>can't be used out of neutral or dash
>can only be used after a light or heavy attack hits (not zone)
>doesn't chain into anything, no lights, heavies or zone
>can't be cancelled into gb
>can be dodged
>knockback is 50% higher than LB's shove, but smaller easier to dodge hitbox
>can knock enemies into a wall for wall stun or hazard/ledge
>same stamina damage as shugs headbutts, but you also take the same stamina damage
>if it's dodged you can still block a heavy or cgb, but can't block a 500 millisecond light attack

This would eliminate the 50/50, while giving warden a good chance to knock into a wall for guaranteed top heavy, can be used to knock them back and retreat, can be used to exhaust them, but also has risk because it can be dodged, costs decent stamina (especially off a heavy bc you already used some) and gives the enemy a guaranteed light if you miss. What do you guys think?
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>>174473084
Because it's pretty good when it actually works.
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>>174473338
This would make it useless. Warden already gets guaranteed top heavies from parries. Exhaustion is useless.

The problem is that right now it's low-risk high-reward. You want to make it high-risk no-reward. People would literally never use it outside of ledge kills.
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>>174472769
that valk winged ornament is cool as heck. >>174473007
and its the only good looking helmet for female kensei as well
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>>174473480
Yeah but with this you could parry-gb-heavy-shove-(into wall)-top heavy, would be a better combo, but also include risking getting it dodged, but you could always mixup when you do and don't use it. You don't think it would be more fun? I'm not saying it's good, but that's kind of the point, maybe remove the guaranteed light on a dodge?
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You know what, as a warden main once defence meta is fixed i wouldnt mind a complete chenge of his bash, something like a stunning pommel strike
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>>174473338
The current bash isn't going anywhere. The 50/50 will persist after the nerf. It's his design and it's working as intended. Most they will do is add a cost to stamina.
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>>174473480
I think wall stun and ledging are high reward
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>>174474175
All I want is it to be untechable if dodged and less time to cancel to GB. Is that too much?
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fucking hell is raider guaranteed anything like at all? just tossed an exhausted nigger to the ground and he still managed to block my top heavy fuck
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Anyone else really down on their luck scavenging for a particular item here? I'm starting to get kind of upset, I'm getting everything else and I don't even want heroic weapon parts, I'm drowning in them.
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>>174471813
Right in my fun.
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>>174474175
It's not a prediction, I'm not deluding myself, I just like talking hypothetical mechanical changes and how they'd change playstyles. I'm on /vg/ of course I find this asinine shit fun.
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>>174474321
want wakkein shaft for my rep 5 raider, still hasn't dropped, spent almost all the steel I got between rep 3 and 5 on premuim packs for him
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>log in
>go to play a pvp game
>D/C's right at the end, as usual
I guess it's bot-squashing again today, for the fourth day in a row.
When will they make the game playable?
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>>174474498
They already got your money.
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As a new player, should I bother doing the campaign mode?

Or just jump straight into multiplayer and start getting my ass kicked?
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>>174474719
Story on realistic will make you get gud
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>>174474719
Free steel, free boxes, get some fundamentals down and a couple cosmetics. Doesn't hurt
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>>174474143
more melee options for warden would be awesome instead of bash, stuff like pommel strikes, a punch or kick or something, maybe something where he blocks a strike and follows through with an elbow to the face with his sword arm/ make him feel more like a dirty fighter/brawler
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>>174474719
it doesn't really matter, just be sure to do the tutorials in the MP section (how to play) and you'll be alright. If you learn how to parry and get through guardbreaks, you'll be better than like 80% of players
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>>174474876
Just let us use the other parts of our sword, with the Warden's curret moveset he might as well be using a curved sword with no guard since he only ever slashes with it.
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>>174471580
That's not what that Anon was implying at all, you spastic.
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>>174475145
>emote point with sword
>doesnt do anything
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>>174475145
True, would be nice to see it used as a blunt instrument or a stabbing weapon, and used to strike parts of the body other than the face/torso. What's mordhau? I don't recognize that move
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>>174475145
I would honestly love it if instead of a SB we got a hilt strike like that, that does stamina damage and stuns.
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>>174463885
I'm pretty sure it's just shit.

You have to time it to basically be a parry. What person would ever attack into you when you're charging your flail? Nobody, that's who.

If you're REALLY good at reacting quickly, you can release the flail on them as they try to gb you. I have no idea what the proper timing is on it though
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>>174475145
An unblockable where he hits like in the webm after first top light would be cool too
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>>174475565
about half a second BEFORE the gb from my experience, you have to read their patterns and lure them into a gb attempt
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>time Revenge activation just before an attack hits me
>I get hit anyway

>time Revenge activation super early
>Berserker starts his slow ass DU ERT DAUDUR leap attack well after my Revenge activation and still falls on his ass

Someone explain.
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>>174470973
valk is cancer but this is an amazing webm my friend
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>>174475804
magic
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>>174475517
mordhau's another hema-esque game coming out that some guy was shilling in these threads for a long time
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>>174476118
Mordhau or Mordschlag is a technique where you grab your sword by the blade and use it as a makeshift hammer, you retard.
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>>174476371
damn you sure got me
I'm really impressed by your knowledge of obsolete fighting styles, care to show off your feder collection?
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>>174475884
Valk isn't cancer, just block her fast lights (I know it's not that easy, but practice and it will be) and dodge the bashes and sweeps, yes spam play is annoying but on valk it's very beatable.
People keep throwing around terms like cancer without thinking. It's cancer if it's KILLING the game, it's killing the game if the only way to beat it is to pick a specific hero, or turtle, and that's not the case with valk, she, like LB and Orochi is just a noob stomper. And who cares if we lose noobs, they drop in and out at a consistent rate.
No high level player or influencer (like a popular streamer/youtuber with a large enough following to sway a large section of the playerbase) is dropping the game because of valk lol.
You're just Baaaa'd
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>>174476459
wew lad no need to be so butthurt just cuz you got called out
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>>174476607
I'm really butthurt by your ability to use wikipedia
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>>174476693
you crying in a post sure seemed buthurt to me nigger
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>>174476371
Thanks, learned something.
>>174476459
You shouldn't take being called a retard personally on 4chan
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>>174476693

oosht keep digging that hole mate.
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https://youtu.be/F_7K_4LzuKk

Roaches are just silly children.

no flame, im just a bab
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>>174476693
>he keeps responding
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>tfw i thought the warden defense force was slowly disappearing but then they started pushing back just as hard as they lost the war
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>>174476829
Nice (well really more like shit on the orochi's part), what's the input on that bleed combo?
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>>174477056
>>>/r/eddit
You'll find plenty of whiny scrubs like you there. git gud
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It looks like it's easier to change guard on mouse, is it because of the deadzones on controller?
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>>174477082
Deflect>Heavy>Gb for Bash> you can either sweep or lights and sweep or raw lights.
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>>174477151
Yes but they will add an option to set deadzones
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>>174474321
for once I actually have the look i want for my "endgame" of the guy, but I can't get some of the armor stats I want. The other 2 I have done I got the gearstats I wanted immediately, but had to dig for good looking gear.

I really want to get my orochi done so I can decide on which character I want to do next, but at this rate im probably gonna have to get scavenge packs and then pay to change the armor, which right now will cost me 3000+however scavenge packs it takes to get the gear and weeb steel+ like 7000 steel for upgrades.

Thinking Kensei, Nobushi or Warden for my next grind target.
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>4 games in a row
>last laugh still refuses to work
thanks ubi, guess im just gonna use catapult like the other shitters
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Is Lawbringer fun to play? I'm looking for something new, I'm kinda bored of Warden.
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>>174476693
jeez nigger calm the fuck down
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So this game is literally unfixable isn't it? There is no way to fix the turtle meta without drastically changing core mechanics, which is something that never happens.

For Honor 2 is the only way it will get fixed and who knows if they'll make it considering how (rightfully) savaged 1 got.
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Serious talk here /fhg/ no shitposting.


We all know this game has some grossly broken balance issues, yet we know that Ubishit is going to be rolling out a competitive ranked mode for all game modes next season with the release of the new classes.

That being said, I have noticed from my discord friends who are /reddit/ users on /r/forhonorcompetitive that there community is attempting to boycott the next patch if it isn't going to fix the bugs likes flicker or feint GB glitches that plague this game terribly.

What can we do as a small /vg/ community to try to better the game we all fundamental enjoy in some capacity?
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>>174478186
abuse the bugs as hard as we can so more people complain
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>>174477946
Lawbringer is pretty fun if you like to fish for parries. His moves feel great, but you find with his kit you will have to turtle a lot or be cancer and shove a ton.

Raider is the most fun for me, just because he hits like a truck and has a fun mixup with his heavies into jumps and basically tries for wall combos and exhausted 50/50s for MASSIVE damage.

I recently picked up orochi, and its pretty fun too, especially if you can git gud with the deflections and the anime attacks.

I want to learn kensei, but he seems a lot like raider in practice.

I would recommend any of these.
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>>174478186
Honestly, probably nothing. There's what, 50 of us? And the image of us is tainted by 4chan. So we can't organise as a community, it'd just be 50 dudes. I've got no ideas honestly.
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>>174478282
That seems counter productive and nigger-tier logic anon


the boycott that happened not too long ago got a good response and seems like an appropriate response
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>>174478186
Devs already said they will fix soft feinting after the defence meta or they might turn it into a real mechanic
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Finally got the patch for ps4 today. I think I'm done with this game for a while, until major changes are implemented. They fucking ruined lawbringer. The one character I genuinely liked and knew took genuine skill, they ruined.

And they did it with 1 move: 50/50 shove off block (and probably even 50/50 shove in general). There's 5 times as many lawbringers out now and they all the play the same. No one attacks, they just wait for you, get the block then get the r1. No one parries, no one attacks. Just spam shoves. They need to delineate block and neutral shoves for the 50/50 to kick in. Because before I've never met a lawbringer I couldn't trounce through sheer skill. But now they've given every player a coin with which they decide when to flip, and now it's tedious as fuck to fight a lawbringer.

Still didn't normalize guard speeds tho. This game gets shittier with each update.
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>>174478764

Good fucking riddance and dont comeback

This entire post is why lawfags are the real cancer
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>>174478764
I hear berserker is underpowered right now, you can try him if you want a new hipster class so that you don't have to take responsibility for your losses
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>>174478851
>.t warden/orochi/warlord/peacekeeper main

Fuck off faggot. He was in a spot before where a gentle touch from the devs would have made him competitive. But they overdid it; even I, who only ever played lb from launch can see that. But go ahead and call me cancer.
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>>174478851
are you a law main or somthing? How did you come to that conclusion?
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>>174478764

>Lawbringer is good now
>shit if I lose I wont have an excuse
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>>174479117
>abloobloobloo my special snowflake class now has people playing him and now that he's good I don't have an excuse for when I lose
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>>174478991
What is with the projecting tonight?

Where did I mention my win loss ratio? Where did I mention difficulties with other classes?

What's the proper response to such a cancerous comment?
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>>174479117
not even that guy, but so fucking what? Your post makes it clear you don't like the character based on his appearance or anything other than the fact he was a crutch for you to say, "Ha! I beat you with LB!" or "Wow the only reason I lost is because I am playing LB."

How do you think Valk players felt when she was buffed? I don't see Valk mains bitching like a child that they aren't a special snowlake playing a hero that takes"genuine skill" anymore.
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>>174478991
>>174478851
>he hates that lawbringer is where shitters flock to now since he has a 50/50
>lol hipster

Some of us actually want to earn our wins, anons.
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>>174479271
>>174479286
Is this the cancer of the community or just the board? This is either some serious projecting or trying to read to much into a very simple post.

I'm not making excuses for losing, I'm not justifying winning. I'm pointing out the awful decision to give lb a 50/50 off a block. Go ahead right now and tell me it was a good decision. Tell me how it helps to break the defensive meta when you get punished even more for attacking.

You either agree with me and are just being shitty, or disagree because you're shitty anyway. Which is it?
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>>174479637
>>174479650

The lawbringer circle jerk has infested this general since launch
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>>174479308
You don't need to mention it, I can infer it from everything you said

>they ruined lawbringer
already off to a good startto whine
>the one class that took genuine skill
"when I win it was skill, when I lose it was because he was underpowered"
>there's 5 times as many lawbringers now
"mom they're playing MY class! and they're only doing it now that he's good!"
>and they all play the same
"wow they're utilizing his new toolkit now that it got buffed what the hell!?"
>before I've never met a lawbringer I couldn't trounce through sheer skill
again, "when I win it's skill, when I lose it's because LB is underpowered"
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Are there any good funny for honor youtubers? Marco yolo made some pretty good montages but I wanna watch a for honor youtuber who ledges and 2v1s and rakes in all the salt for entertainment
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>>174479452
You true nigger I picked lawbringer specifically because I think he looks cool. I always like seeing fellow lawbringers. I always felt the comradery between us. But now it's like fighting a warden. It's tedious. It's not fun. Winning doesn't take skill anymore.

I'm not mad that more people play him. I'm mad that more people play him because he's now on the same level as the warden.
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>>174479948
lawfags ladies and gentlemen
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>>174479948
>he's now on the same level as the warden.
lmao
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>>174479846
His boosted damage on every raw light/heavy is decent incentive to play him more aggressively at least for me I don't get why people are bitching so hard about it reinforcing the turtle meta. It literally made his chains faster and more damaging, you only need to wait for a block and shove if you're a shitter who can't feint or mixup
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>>174479637
>e-every character that isn't mine doesn't take skill! they're just using gimmicks and crutches!
>LB gets buffed to be in line with other heroes and suddenly LBs cry about how he's ruined and they're done with the game or are switching mains
>this somehow isn't hipster or an attempt to find a new class that's underpowered

>>174479637
see
>>174479948
>I'm not mad that more people play him. I'm mad that more people play him
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>>174479846
You really can't see the forest for the trees can you. Like I said, you guys are reading to much into a simple post. See>>174479948

You are tangible cancer.
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>>174479948
I don't like the change either lawbro, it didn't address his core problems and has now made him a shitter-stomping Warden-lite, but you can't give a fuck about other people.

Me personally, I'm still going to play him because he's cool.
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>>174480083
>taking my words out of context

Truly, blatantly, disingenuous jewery. Fuck right off.
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>>174479948
Can we just drop this discussion he's not even top 5 and you can choose to play him however you want. Nobody is forcing you to use block-shove at gunpoint. and it's pretty easy to deal with. These discussions are getting fucking repetitive
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>>174480116
if it was a simple post, he wouldn't have whined about it "ruining" LB and him being done with the game
if it was a simple post pointing out why a mixup is bad for LB to have, he wouldn't have gone on about sheer skill and more people playing LB

And here I thought Waarlords were delusional
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>>174479886
anyone? or is this a lawbringer general now
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>>174476486
>Baaaa'd
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Any nigs on PC trying to play 1's or party up for 2's?
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>>174480365
Iron Pineapple is always a good place to start for that salty goodness.
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>>174480232
they're still your words, faggot
it doesn't matter why you're mad about more people playing him, it matters because of the fact you're mad that more people are playing him regardless
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>>174479998
Not an argument.

>>174480062
So which camp do you belong to? You see I have to ask because you couldn't be bothered to make a point in your condescending reply. Are you of the mind that the warden has a 50/50 or is just overpowered? Because I was drawing the comparison to him in the sense that when youre on the receiving end of a lb or warden, it's not about skill, it becomes about guessing.
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>>174480449
Thanks, will check out
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>>174476371
Why were people so bad at illustrating fight manuals?
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>>174480389
Thanks!
I got this!
Good fight!
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>>174480530
Baaa!

you are welcome
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>>174478159
Just believe anon, remember a living meme is president of the USA and ultra right wing /pol/ practically worships the image of a frog from a homosexual furry diaper fetish comic.
Truly we are living in the
>current year
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>>174480328
Yes it was simple because I said what I meant. But you over analyze and twist my words in order to belittle me and my opinion.
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So out of all the people who had no problem insulting me over my choice of words in expressing my displeasure at the lawbringer rework, who would like to actually discuss whether 50/50 shoves are a good thing?
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You will never be as cool as this captain.
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>>174480860
I don't really have a dog in this fight, but after nerfing characters whos bread and butter was this kind of thing, why give it to someone else?

It don't make no sense to me, senpai.
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>>174480860
>mad about mixups
>in a fighting game

literally, figuratively, and unironically get good, you'll be seeing a lot more lawfags now shitter
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>>174481091
Is a fighting game supposed to be about skill or chance?
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>>174481220
is this strawman that "actual discussion" you mentioned?
Whatever you don't like is cancer right?
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>>174480860
I think it's a good thing, but not off block.
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>>174481220
>m-muh skill
if you can't react to mixups, then you have no business discussing a fighting game when there are far worse things you could have to deal with
Try dealing with Vanilla Sagat you reverse tierwhore
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>>174481220
Reading your opponent is a skill, ask anyone who's actually good at fighting games and has a history of playing them.

Real fighting games also don't have the fastest attacks be sluggish 500ms moves anyone under the age of 30 can react to with one eye closed.
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>>174481091
>a fighting game
AHAHAHAHAAA
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>>174481360
>>174481472
Is a fighting game about skill or guessing correctly? Please answer you fucking hivemind cretins.
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>>174481220
Faust would like to say hi.

But really, while I am relatively new to fighting games, setting up 50/50s is pretty common in fighting games.
I know at least 2 characters I have tried on GG:XRD Rev have 50/50 setups, and at least raven has a vortex.

The shove mixup isnt that bad imo, but the shove off the block is pretty nuts, and will probably be tweaked.
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>>174481582
>you didn't answer my question in the arbitrary guidelines I set!
Fuck off and see >>174481483
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>>174481483
I understand you need to be competent in reading your opponent.

Tell me where the "reading" factors in when a lawbringer blocks your attacks and then shoves you for a 50/50. Inb4 don't get blocked
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>>174481616
inb4 someone replies to you saying that anime fighters don't count.
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>>174481663
But you didn't answer my question at all, you just insulted me for asking it. Try harder.
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>>174481790
>LB shoves you after he blocks your attack
>you read him and figure out he's going to go for a gb or you read him and figure out he's going for a light
>you react accordingly

wow that sure was hard
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>>174481790
It's not a literal coinflip unless the Lawbringer is an AI opponent.

It's like how you can often tell that a Warden prefers to cancel his SB into GB 80% of the time and rarely does raw bashes. Or that he likes to alternate them. Human players have habits and patterns.

Hell, this is why it's a standard for fighting games (or FH's duel mode) to have multiple rounds. The first round is largely for feeling out your opponent, and the better player may easily lose the first round only to handily win the match.
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>>174480945
I thought that was hilarious how there was one noname useless captain in apollyon's usurper circle
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>>174481908
>I answer your question in the way you want me to answer it
>If I say it's skill then you say "t-then that makes 50/50s retarded!"
>If I say it's guessing then you say "wow what a faggot argument invalid"
I thought you were the lawfag that hated 50/50s, but here you are trying to set one up already
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>>174481908
He did answer. Guessing correctly is a skill, so your question was flawed since they're not mutually exclusive choices.
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Is slippery any good or is fireflask better?
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>>174478764

What absolute tripe you peddling sir, lawbringer is fucking cancer now, and it's getting buffed again.
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>>174482080
>useless

Nigger if that captain is hanging with the Warden, Holden Cross, Mercy, and Apollyon herself, you know he's a badass in goon clothing.

Speaking of captains, I want the samurai shield captain armor for Kensei.
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Just a heads-up. If you've done nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear from the LAW.
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>>174482243
He thinks they ruined lawbringer because he's good now and can't rely on his crutch argument of being underpowered when he loses
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>>174482080
Someone post that one webm where the player gets btfo by a Captain.
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>>174482334
But that wasn't the Warden, Mercy, or Holden. Those were different niggas. That isn't Mercy's mask, or Holden's shoulders. This was at the point where they'd defected
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>>174476371
are you retarded? mordhau is a game you fucking nigger
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>>174480907
>character preview makes everyone appear the same size
had to fix that.
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>>174482345
So a typical pre-patch Law main, then. Disgusting.
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>>174481990
Oh gee that sure was easy. Thanks for explaining it. Now go do it. Oh I'd be really pleased (if possible for you) for you post some clips of you reading lawbringers when this happens. Surely you'll never ever make the wrong decision in this coin flip.

>>174482045
I get that, I'm slightly exaggerating when I say coin flip. But you fail to consider that while you have the capability to observe habits and patterns, your opponent does too. If you guess properly, they will factor that in as well. The whole situation will approximate randomness.


I'd also like to point out again, that I'm mainly annoyed we get the 50/50 off a block. At least from neutral you have the capability to avoid the 50/50 all together. But the whole crux of my rant is that the 50/50 can be triggered off a block. Not a parry, a block.
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>>174482563
And where do you think your irrelevant game got its name from, shill? Go back to your kikestarter backer forums.
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>>174482563
This is bait.
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>>174482125
Yes thats the point in phrasing it you literally retard. You spoonfed yourself my argument. That's exactly it: if it's about skill, why have a 50/50? If it's not about skill, then your whole first condescending reply was full of shit. Just stop
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>>174482152
>people who win the lottery are skilled

Audible kek
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>>174482657
>if you can't do it then that means it isn't true
>if you ever fuck up a read then that means you lost the argument

It's almost as if humans aren't robots that read inputs and make mistakes. That still doesn't mean that you can throw a tantrum about a mixup

>>174482863
Just because you can set up an argument where there's no possible way for you to lose, doesn't mean you're correct. It means you're intentionally trying to railroad someone into the answer you want
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>>174482243
But that's what I'm saying, that he's cancer.

>>174482345
The only excuse I have with lawbringer is that his (among other heros) have a quarter of the guard switch speed as other heros; which is a valid complaint. Stop projecting faggot, I'm not justifying anything.
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Main lawbringer poster here.

I've completely misread either the quality of the community or maybe just this board. Maybe it's just me but I am genuinely, properly, surprised at the pure condescension of some people when presented with what I felt was a valid complaint. Because there's no ID's here I'm just letting it know that I give up. I hope you people continue to rot in your miserable, cancerous, existences. You know who you are.
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Why are all attacks in this game so damn slow?
Isn't this supposed to be a fighter? Make it fast.
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>>174483668
I'm a different poster entirely, that agrees with you, but this is 4chan. Occasionally good discussions are had, but most of the time, it turns into what you've experienced.
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>>174453972
im still here. There is just no reason for me to post under an alias anymore.
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>>174483689
Slower is more accessible which means a larger audience.
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>playing duel
>warden (me) v kensei
>i don't vortex or anything like that, just trying to main a new character cause Raider is at rep 10
>crush this dude because he cant fucking parry and i can
>third round 2-0 me
>get him to low health
>he slowly goes to ledge
>i know what hes doin
>tries to GB me, I CBG and he falls off ledge of of shove of the CGB
>leaves before he dies
>the third takedown didnt count

wtf man just take your losses
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>>174483668
No one likes tier hipsters, just accept it.
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>>174484393
(except all the tier hipsters)
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>>174484248
Nearly everyone in this game is a salty autist who will jump through every mental hoop to avoid a loss. Just gotta hope you find a normal player man.
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IDEAS

Character shit
>Kensei
>Doom of the Kensei now cannot be parried
>but it also can't be feinted normally
>soft feinting still works but that can't be feinted either

>Orochi
>reduce the speed and damage of top light slightly
>increase speed slightly on side lights and heavies
>make zone punishable on block
>Riptide Strike now has invincibility on startup and can be feinted

>Warden
>reduce speed/increase window on Crushing Counterstrike
>shoulder bash can not no longer be feinted, and consumes 100% more stamina
>new chain
>heavy, top light, side heavy
>first heavy is a normal attack, top light is a follow up pommel bash, and the side heavy is much faster than normal

>Conqueror
>shield bash is now a purely defensive move
>light parries guarantee a heavy shield bash that confirms into side heavy
>heavy parries or superior block heavies guarantees a light shield bash
>light shield bash can now immediately be cancelled into charge flail and gains a charge level immediately
>charge levels go as follows
>half second charge: 35 damage
>two second charge: 45 damage
>three second charge: 55 damage and is an unblockable/unparryable move
>new chain
>heavy, light
>first attack is any heavy attack, even charged, followup light is faster and does more damage (15)

General game shit
>guard break damage nerfed
This will put more priority on spacing and positioning. By not being guaranteed a heavy attack on a guard break, your first instinct is to look for a wall throw for more damage.
>guard break buffed greatly
Guard breaks almost never work when two competent players are going head to head. Unless it's off of a feint or a parry, it just never happens from neutral. Guard breaks no longer chase dashes, but guard breaks now have a much more strict window. You're no longer able to guard break cancel when you hear the "thud", if you've done it by then you're too late.
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>>174484482
Tier hipsterism is just the opposite extreme of tier whoring. Both are cancer. Just play the character you think is cool, without caring who others play or why.
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>>174484012
I was searching a bit and seems like the community despaises fast attacks and still they complain about turtling. wtf
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>>174485462
They just don't like loosing. Ledge them all.
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>>174475804
I guess Zerk's just that bad.
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>>174476829
Okay, why do I keep seeing brunette Valks even though she has blonde hair in the character menu?
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>>174486309
Helm changes it I think
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>>174485109
>says the guy that calls out tierwhores & tierhipsters as cancer
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>>174476829
>not even 1 GB mixup
why was he even mad?

>>174477082
that's their deflect-heavy, and if you mis-time it you've parry-baited yourself
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>>174485109
I bet you play PK don't you?
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>>174485050
>unparriable
this is a non-starter.
Such a thing doesn't exist in the game except via the unlock bug.
Don't go throwing a new mechanic into the mix so hastily.
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swirly shields a best
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>>174487161
There NEEDS to be a new mechanic to break turtling though. Something that isn't an unfair offense but is strong enough to beat people that just sit in one spot all game blocking.
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>>174488078
how would an unparriable not be abused tho? generally asking, i agree that turtling needs to be countered but
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>>174488078
Wasn't feinting supposed to be that check?
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>>174488078

The kappa build apparently fixes all the issues

and before the twitch shitter meme its the devs fault for naming it
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>>174488423
so why cant WE play it
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>>174488423
is kappa confirmed?
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>>174483689
If they were too fast to react to, there would be no way to block/parry anything except by guessing.
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>>174488423
I keep hearing about this "hyper aggressive" build

Id like if the devs said something about it
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>>174488207
You can still dodge it though. And in the instances I provided they're more than telegraphed.
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>>174482531
Pretty sure it was a flashblack and I'm pretty sure that Asmodai is in the scene, the captain that gets stabbed is probably spazzing out about the Apollyon allowing vikings to assault the Iron legion's main fortress.
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>block Warden zone
>guard break
>teched
Instantly left the match
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Ok this is a bit autistic but here goes. Female wardens are retarded, if she's wearing a mail coif then why does her ponytail stick out. I'm just sayin.

yeah... explain that one female warden players who constantly say "but muh stupid male bulky shoulders"
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>>174489765
She has very short hair so it doesn't stick into her armour. She wears a clip-on to make herself feel more feminine.
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If a peacekeeper lands a light, is the second attack able to be blocked? Ive been having a hard time keeping up with the light spam from Peacekeepers, usually I just attack none stop till they run away.
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>>174489765
Nobushi is the only female character that makes any sense.
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>>174489818

sadly this will probably be the best explanation that i get.
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>viking symbol
>has a anime as his emblem
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>playing brawls
>save my teammate from getting killed
>he stands off to the side and lets them gank me because it's the "honorable" thing to do
Yeah fuck this game mode
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>>174490054

Yeah i think you're right on that one desu, pk i can kinda get sorta.
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>>174490165
I wont abandon you Anon... Find me.
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>>174490350

That is one ugly warden.
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>when they leave so they dont get a loss and waste everyone else's time
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Stream tomorrow?
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>finished my order
>relentless duelist (25 takedowns in duel)
>go play a round in brawl, connection lost, had to restart game
>relentless duelist isnt done now, need 1 more kill
>still got the xp from last time
>completed again and got ANOTHER 1500xp

im not even mad
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>go up against a massive shitter Warlord
>he has the worst shit talk ever
>eventually just mashes on me while I'm typing
>a few minutes later
>playing a brawl
>some guy mentions one of the gaylords is streaming
>decide to go into the stream and listen while talking shit for maximum comfiness
>while looking for his channel I see that the guy I was just playing against in duel is streaming
>go into his stream
>he's some spastic college kid with a Warlord main at Rep 15
>92 viewers
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>>174490576
I leave half of my brawl matches because people want 1v1's and I don't play that shit.
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>>174491742
I leave half my brawls because its against the same fucking heros. Im tired of fighting Valks, Shugs, and Orochis. I havent seen a raider in 5 days.
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>>174491917
I envy you. Raiders are the biggest shitters in the game. They bitch about their block stance speed then do nothing but random light attacks. They bitch about not being able to open up turtles and then just wait for a single light attack into heavy to get two bars and a mixup. They're BY FAR the biggest whiners in this game and the character isn't even that bad. No character in this game is bad, it's just that the top tier characters are so dominant.
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>>174491639

>he's some spastic college kid with a Warlord main at Rep 15

massive faggot clearly, and deserves zero views.
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>>174492060

I dont get the stance switch meme

How the fuck would different weapon handle the same way?
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>>174492237

How does a katana cut through heavy armor?
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>>174492060
I main Raider and do none of this. I dont even see why hes being buffed
then again ive been playing him since beta.
Personally i think he's the strongest character in the game. I kill other people in 3 hits or less sometimes
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>>174493054
the will of japan and steel folded over 50,000 times.

so it doesn't.
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>>174490054
This.
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>dueling with warlord
>come up against a raider
>rep 2
>i started with warlord yesterday
>uh oh
>smash him 3-0
>at the end he types "laggy"
I'm ashamed of my victory
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What do you guys think about my Heavy infantry lawbringer? Meant to look like a 15th century pikeman/knight sort of character.
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Lawbringer turtles are the new cancer
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>>174475517
You hold the sword upside down by the blade and slam the pommel down on the top of your opponents head (giving concussions or spinal injury) or use the cross gaurd to hook around the opponents neck for wrestling.
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>>174493676

You can block their shove light you know. If you think they're cancer now you're just horrible. They're barely better than they were pre-patch.

And if you're getting hit with long arm then kys.
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Does For Honor even have a matchmaking system?
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>>174493824
Something about the default warlord is so comfy.
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>>174475145

He uses the hilt in an execution.
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>>174493824
Ok, right after this guy beat me twice 3-0 he taunts at the end.
Why is it always orochis?
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>>174492060
but raider and zerker are objectively garbage

over half their kit is useless. sure the other characters that are top-tier are dominant, but it's because raider and zerker fucking suck.

>>174493059
he sucks because a good player will never fall for his feints, much like against a kensei

>>174492237
sometimes game balance trumps muh realism my dude
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>>174493824
No. It just nets whatever 2 people are available within 300 ping of each other..
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>>174493676
They aren't fun to fight, that's for sure.

The mirror match is really annoying, too. Granted, I'm impatient as shit so i don't turtle well.

I think once they nerf the shove off block it will be less cancer. I will continue to play law though, because polearms are cool, the fashion is amazing and I like parries.
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I'm definitely switching factions after this season's over. Knight players are the most braindead fuckers on the planet who don't seem to understand how territory war works. And don't give me the "The Knights are the faction that have jobs and don't have time to play all the time!" meme, Knights are just the shitter faction.
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Any PCfags down for 1's for 2's?
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>>174493817
>you can block their shove light

Honestly it only works half the time. I'm aware his shove light is SUPPOSED to be unblockable apparently but that makes it worse. The shove light shit is obnoxious and I'll have my guard matching theirs and they just hit me anyway on some characters at some times because of some arbitrary hitstun. Or i'll get hit by a heavy and their light followup is unblockable because of hitstun as well. You don't know what you're talking about, Lawmain
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>>174494035
Fantastic
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>>174494015
Seems like most people didn't get the memo then, cause i fucking rekt people with Raider.

>Am i the only one that likes to put other players who play your main but are low rep in their place
>Rep 10 Raider
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>>174490054
>not liking the sheep
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>>174494170
She's a ram
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>>174494159
what's ur winrate with him

i get mixed results with him but have him at rep 6 and i enjoy him a lot, even if it feels like he can't do fucking shit to open up on someone
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>>174494125
My first clue that they were retarded was the 3000 "deus vult" crusader videos on youtube. All set to the same Sabaton song.

I would switch but I am fond of the emblem shield shape.

As a sidenote, I am genuinely surprised I havent seen has done a samurai video set to "Battlecry" by Nujabes.
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Shugs can hard counter the warden SB, why has no one said anything about this. He doesn't move from the shoulder bash and can even block through the light attacks. Hell he can parry them!
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>>174494336
People cycle between whining about the OP characters.
Shug whining usually comes after warden-whining.
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>>174494151
Sure.
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>>174494154

If they hit you with the top heavy after a shove it gives a super quick top light that you can't block because it's too fast, similar to PK's light follow up after any heavy.

I know exactly what I'm talking about. I have a Rep 5 LB and I use this shit on them all the time. I block LB's lights off shoves all the time, the majority of the time.
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>>174494296
Winrate dont matter since stats are broken cause people just leave games to avoid losses.

Just play him, theres going ton be a majority of shitty Raiders, and that's an advantage for the good ones
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>>174494932
>>174494296
but if you really want my stats...
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is shugoki now the worst tank? every other one has a unblockable bash from neutral, all but one get a free light off of it.
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Where are you faggot?
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>>174495601
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>fighting an orochi
>doing fine, but close
>buddy jumps in, running attack gives him revenge
>buddy runs away
>i die
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So I hopped on PS4 today to get in on the patch when this happened.

I used Harsh Judgement and my LB did some unnatural contortions that settled on him staring directly at the screen. Paired with the sound effect, I was mildly spooked.
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>Can parry nearly anything in the game with moderate success
>Can't parry Warlord's ANYTHING for the life of me

They come out so fucking weird. The heavies are like... a huge windup, then this instant smash or something that deals a huge chunk of damage. Actually parrying them feels nearly impossible. Seems like the best thing to do is just quit when you see a Warden or Warlord now.
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>>174495601
>>
>grab exhausted raider
>throw him
>he doesnt fall
>ok
>use revenge headbutt
>doesnt fall down
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>>174492060
> They bitch about their block stance speed then do nothing but random light attacks.

its almost like everything but their light attacks ( which are still inferior to warden etc ) are the only things raiders can do to you.

its almost like a large amount of their kit is straight up garbage.
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>>174494159
Everyone can parry his zone. If you feint it then you've lost a huge chunk of stamina and they can cancel their parry to counter anything else you throw at them. Raider's heavy into light is trash since it only comes from one direction and is slow af. Raider's lights are subpar because he can't switch directions fast enough so people always know where you're going to attack and as long as they have decent reflexes you're getting blocked or parried.
Don't even think about tossing out a heavy.
Raider is one of my favorite dudes. But he is so bad.
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how would you rank the toons now?

1.warden/PK/warlord
2.lawbringer/conq
3.kensei/valk
4.shugoki/nobushi/orochi
5.raider/beserker
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>>174496873
>toons
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>>174495601
>tfw reppin house dragonfly
>tfw 2subtle to be recognized for degeneracy
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>Go against a PK
>He fucking attacks me when I am trying to relocate the fight away from a ledge (where I have the advantage) at the start of a round
>Beat him anyway
>Beat him two rounds
>Tell him I don't want to deal with this
>He says "Then fucking quit"
>Charges me down while I am typing out a response
>Alt-F4

There's some people you just don't want to play with, right? Why are PK mains and Orochi mains always such "DARKNESS I AM THE ASSASSIN NOBODY KNOWS MY TRUE SKILL" types?
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>>174496976

World eaters top right?

if so noice.
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>>174497125
yeboi
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What the fuck man, I just had a dude rage quit because "Warden zone is too OP". Bitch we played 3 games of duels and I explained how to counter it and punish it and he fucking rage quits because of it. The fuck else does he want from me.
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>>174497040
all i know is he won because you rage quit
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>>174496873
SS Tier
Warden, Warlord, Shugouki
S Tier
Lawbringer, Peacekeeper, Valkyrie
A Tier
Conqueror, Orochi, Berserker
A- Tier
Nobushi, Kensei, Raider
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>>174497202
i wasnt able to grab after a warden blocked zone today as shugoki.

is it still punishable?

also whats with after parrying an exhausted enemy they can tech a grab? sometimes i want to throw them off instead of knocking them down.

also are they just going to make every champ a spammy as fuck
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>>174496873
Bro Tier:
>Lawbringer, Kensei, Raider

Lonely Tier:
>Conqueror

Shit tier:
>everything else
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>>174497202

Clearly he hasnt figured out it's a free gb if he blocks it.
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His NAT turned green right after i died, we didnt have any more problems for the rest of the game.
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>>174497398
>Bro Tier
>Lawbringer... Raider
God no
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>>174497235
I mean, yeah, I guess he did. There's a line between being an RPing honorfag and having some common courtesy, and this guy had none. His ENTIRE mode of play was whiffing. Whiff the light, land the 400ms second light, over and over. Still managed to beat him but Jesus the whole thing was guessing which way the 400ms light would come from.
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>>174497398

>lawbringer
>bro tier

Nope.
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>>174497407
>Shugouki in duels
You deserved it
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>>174497407
Fug, wrong webm
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>>174497518
>Warden in duels
you deserved it again
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>>174497579
>being this mad
I'm just trying to learn characters man, i dont even really use shoulder bash that much
crushing counterstrike is becoming my favorite thing to do though, its so fun
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>>174497579
How did the shoulder bash ruin your life?
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BOI LAWBRINGERS LIIIIIIIIIT, HES A BEAST
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>>174497407
that's just tech, you can't use it ? trash
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>>174497798
I just deleted a bunch of shit on my computer, so I don't have a reaction image suitable to this. But have a (You) anyways.
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>>174497579

So i take it after the upcoming patch you will just rope yourself if you get killed by a warden?
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>>174497980
The shoulderbash isn't the problem, it's just Warden players in general. I would love for him to get buffed and nerfed so I could actually enjoy him, but to win with Warden you have to play like a cunt.
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>>174463445
Not even him, but you fags fill half the thread with 'muh shoulder' even when you get a nerf to it like you want. It's Reddit-tier tears, my friend, and it's gotten old.
>inb4 Warden main
Rep 4 Law main.
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>>174498060
>play like a cunt
What are you talking about? Fast attacks to punish the use of heavies, feinting so you can get parries? IF you took away wardens SB he becomes a kensai with orochi ZA. Are Kensais cunts too?
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>>174498060

i dunno dude, i just parry with him and crushing counterstrike usually, dunno how that makes me a cunt.
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>>174494308
https://youtu.be/Sv6uiGxn2ec

As close as I've seen to an anime audio weeb video.
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>>174498154
>Lawshitter thinking his opinion matters
LOL
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>>174498303
>This video contains content from Victor Entertainment, Inc.. It is not available in your country.
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>>174497839
T-thanks
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>>174498303

jeeez, gas the weebs race war now.
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>>174498154
>>174498306
'rep 4 main" lol, even some characters I don't main have higher rep than that, please don't consider yourself as "experienced" when you have less than 100h played
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>>174498492
I'm not saying you guys don't have have a point, i'm saying you have beaten the only point you've had in months to death and everyone is tired of the /waterworksgeneral/ every day. Fuck off to another game if it hurts you so much.
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>>174498732
>"heh look at me, such a cool, calm player. I don't know why you scrubs get so upset, just a game bro lol"
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>>174498386
>not using a VPN in the year of our Lord 2017
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>>174498303
Lol'ed at the fist of the north star intro.
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>>174498732
I literally just arrived in this thread and saw some random dude defending himself with "rep 4 main". Whatever will be the nerf to the shoulderbash, I guarantee that it's not the right one.
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>>174499038
For what purpose?
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>elimination
>enemy team is three Conqueror's and a Lawbringer that does nothing but block shove
>literally have to run for powerups to stand a chance
>"lol quit running noobs"
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>Having a blast in Dominion
>Connection is flawless
>Match is ending
>Connection error

Seriously, why does this happen? Suddenly someone had red nat) fuck off ubi
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>>174499504
host ragequit
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>it's a "guy does absolutely nothing but abuse glitches" episode
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>>174499976
Yeah I hate it in SF2 when people abuse glitches like combos.
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>>174500054
There's a difference between a glitch that adds a meaningful game mechanic, and one that breaks the game mechanically. Shit like soft feints are complete garbage as an unintended mechanic, but could actually be turned into a meaningful one.
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>>174500227
Combos broke SF2. Almost every character had one-touch kill combos.
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>>174499112
I know it's not alot, but with a 50+ hour/week job and gf, I really can't do much better.
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>>174495365
>top 2% for kills
huh
>top 0.7% for deaths
kek
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>>174500293
Street Fighter 2 also came out almost 30 years ago. There's different standards now. You can say something like wavedashing makes Smash more interesting, or that shit like karas make most fighting games more interesting, but they're glitches that are unintended by the developers.
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>>174500520
>Street Fighter 2 also came out almost 30 years ago
Thanks for making me old, asshole.
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>>174499504
Ubisoft doesn't know how/care enough to make the game not fucking crash when the anon host quits to preserve their win%.
Both the jews & the quitting faggots are to blame.

2v2 & AI are at least playable.
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What helmet is the most ascetic? Leaning towards the Loran.
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>>174500810
I can't tell
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do different gods have different grab speeds?

i swear lawbringers and orochis and wardens are faster
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>>174499345
>no one on his team can win a 1v1 against a conk/LB
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>>174500810
>>174500902
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>>174501040
Arcturus & Dain, maybe Lederic depending on your ornaments.
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>>174501040
Loren, Fendrel and Lerope
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>>174500810
Haedus, Elner, and Lederic are the best.
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>>174501040
I actually like Loran. I started with Warden after they added the Wings 2 ornament, so I think I'll end up using Fendrel, despite hating it initially. Arcturus and Merope are the best for Crusaders, though.
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>Peacekeeper zone is literally to fast to parry
Why does this move exist
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>>174501153
>>174501230
Now listen here you little shits:

Loren is boring
Fendrel is meme'd on because >muh barbute
Merope < Arcturus
Haedus < Dain
Elner is ugly to the point of hipsterdom

These are all indisputable facts.
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>>174496873
>top++
PK
warlord
shugi
>top
Warden(with conq nerfed and shugis nerf he might join the top++)
valk
>shit tier
conq
nobushi
orochi
berserker
kensei
raider
lawbringer
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>>174501589
>Merope < Arcturus

You like a cheap mass-produced greathelm with no breaths over a proper one with breaths? Enjoy your overheating and asphyxiation I guess. Plus the inability to see anything below you without leaning forward.
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>>174496873
>Fucking annoying
Warden
>Annoying
Valk
PK
>A step below annoying
Roach
Zerker
Lawbringer
Shugoki
>lol I have to fuck up to be beaten by them
WL
Conk
Kensei
Nobushi
Raider
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>>174501768
>implying the warden isn't a robot with no need for air and proximity sensors in more strategic locations
Prove me wrong.
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>>174501703
>>174501857
>Conqueror is bad now meme
Light bash is still basically unpunishable. You need to play an Assassin to be able to punish it. Plus now that Conqueror players have to use their brain, they've learned how to do dash-in 50/50's and full block feints.
>>
>throw a kensei into a fire
>doesnt take damage
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>>174502093
no.
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>>174501518
I parried it once, by using a heavy before the indicate even showed up.
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>>174502134
He is the living flame.
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>>174502039
Warden has a ponytail
Robots don't have ponytails
boom, rekt
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>>174502142
Great argument!
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When should I try to get to 108?
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>>174502134
this also just happened

>throw shugoki into a wall
>he doesnt get wallstunned

also why do people think shugoki is top tier? if you know who to roll when he tries to charge mixup you hes not scary at all, just a throwbot
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>>174502348
collect pieces at rep 3
and then just casually upgrade what you think is a good piece
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Oh god how much longer until the roman?
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>>174502510
years
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>>174502690
anon pls
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>>174502792
You're right.
Never
Ubisoft is going to pull the plug soon
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>>174502840
ANON PLS
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What do I do if my lights are getting parried?
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>>174502971
Stop attacking first.
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>>174503008
Well what if he doesn't attack?
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>>174502971
spam grab, thatll condition them to try to light attack through one, then you can parry one of their lights
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>>174503062
I don't have the reactions to parry lights.
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>>174503054
Then you can't lose.

If you have a non-weapon unblockable, you can use those. Just don't get punished.
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>>174479886
actingdemicky is alright

the first few mins of his lawbringer vid are gold
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>>174502239
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>>174502389
Oni charge 50/50 is top tier, everything else is garbage.
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>>174503539
idk it just seems so easy because you can just roll away lol, and if he tries to zone attack to chase you, you can just block.
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>>174503627
rolling away does no work
he has 3 options
>oni charge into heavy
>sprint > lock gb
>sprint heavy

and most of those are unpunishable or very, very hard to punish
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>>174502510
Two-three weeks for season pass owners.
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>>174503449
Excuse me that's not a robot but an artificial organism.
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>>174496246
oh wow what a cool and edgy guy
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>>174503685
you can grab him out of a run if you time it right.

with raider you can just dodge grab, or if they actually try a sprinting hit, you can just block it or parry it.

idk i have no trouble with it
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>>174497407
ah yes orochi teleport gb

ancient forbidden techniques, fat one. us uchiha clan ninjas wouldn't expect a piggu like you to understand.
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>>174497579
are there any characters we can play or are you just going to whittle down the entire roster?
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>>174490576
wtf is that helmet? Is it new?
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>>174496910
>someone saved my Mike Ross gif
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>>174504380
You been under a rock the last week or two?
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>>174504467
yeah I don't play this shit game anymore

I thought they only added new ornaments though? Surely thats not an ornament
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>>174504687
It's an ornament
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>>174504687
why are you even here if you dont even play this game anymore?

>>>/v/
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>>174500810
wait...
ascetic or aesthetic?
cause in being the default helm Loran is by definition the most ascetic, but Lederic or Dullahan are probs the most aesthetic
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>>174493824
I don't think it's even possible. You get matched before you even select a hero. He could've ended up picking a lvl 1 hero and no one would've complained.
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>>174494125
How does it work?
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>>174501040
hfs
im rep 10 ward and ive literally never seen a merope helm
not as a drop, not even on other wardens
wtf
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where do i find this ps4 community rumoured in the OP?
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>>174500810
Loran looks weirdly oversized from some angles. It and dain are the best for paints though
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What is the best KENSEI MEMPO
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>>174506951
Airi
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>>174500365
>I know it's not alot
Good, that's a start; classic dunning-kruger effect, just don't overestimate your knowledge/experience in that game. My account is rep 35 with over 300h and I learn new stuff every goddamn day. I'm sure so do you. We both shouldn't act like we know our shit.
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Have they remodelled the Conqueror yet so he's in a wheelchair? Seems weird that a character who is so weak and frail doesn't have a wheelchair.
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Why do Reddit unironically complain about "muh light shield bash"? It does fifteen fucking damage.

FIFTEEN DAMAGE.

The cunt has to hit you nearly 10 fucking times in a row.
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>>174507858
>conq
>weak
Nah son, you're just bad. This morning I held off 3 people on zone C with Conq.
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>>174508002
>Domemeion
top lel
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>>174506618
Go to the game icon on your ps4, go down to a tab that says friends and community, search fhg
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>>174508020
>Duel
Wrong game nigger
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>>174508250
>I rate character balance on meme feats and meme armor stats
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On ps4, I was doing an order involving dominion ai, and no one was afk. This was at midnight, do they have a new system in place now?
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>>174508296
These modes only make up the majority of the game, basically nonexistent right?? Hah...haha...
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>>174508449
Ranked does away with armor stats and feats in the non-duel game types because everyone agrees they're cancer.
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>>174508497
Characters that are good in 4v4 would sitll be good in 4v4 then. I'm doing pretty well with my Conq and I'm undergeared as fuck. And to reach the useful feats you have to actually do stuff beforehand.
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>>174508595
Conq is a character who benefits barely anything from stats for some reason. Aside from the regular Revenge bullshit (He gets revenge in ONE hit pre-patch what the fuck) he barely changes.
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>>174508417
They temp banned everyone and threatened to perma ban.
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>>174508497
What the fuck is 'ranked'?
Can I queue for it? No? Then it doesn't fucking matter.
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>>174509182
Ranked is next patch, newfag.
No armour stat memes or overpowered bullshit weapons like memebow. It's going to be glorious when all the revenge shitters and Warlords can't actually play the meme gametypes properly.
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>>174509229
It will just be filled with people who don't have 108 gear yet. That way I don't have to suffer 108 gear while I'm working a character to rep 3.
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>>174508102
thanks pal
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>>174509510
Should be a requirement to hit Renown 3 before being allowed in to Ranked
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>>174509576
So you would pick your character before you could queue? Or only pick characters you have at rep 3?
How the fuck would that work? Think before you say something you fucking monkey.
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>>174509626
there is an account renown, idiot
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>>174509626
lol this tardo
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>>174509701
>>174509707
Have fun in ranked by yourself, fags. No one will use it beyond leveling the DLC characters
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>>174510010
>No one will use it
Just like no one uses Overwatch Ranked or SFV Ranked.
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>>174509701
That doesn't actually change his point. It can still just be filled with people leveling characters
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>>174510078
>Overwatch
I don't know what SFV is and I don't want to know. Just get the fuck out.
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>>174510303
>Hasn't heard of Street Fighter
haha what the fuck
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>>174510303
>Embarrass yourself Anonymously on the internet.
>REEEEEEE GET OUTTTTTTTT!
I fucking wish it was illegal for under age faggots to come here.
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>>174510303
>Plays For Honor
>Doesn't know what SFV is
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>>174510303
>I don't know what SFV
you live under a rock? i bet you dont even know what mortal kombat is or streets of rage

t. someone who dont even play fightin games
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>>174510303
No one plays ranked in any video games you fucking idiot god everyone know this what a homo lmao i'll stick with my unranked garbage games where spears kill u in 1 hit cya noob ;)
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>>174510303
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>>174510389
Go back to overwatch and your 2d hardcore 'fighting' games.
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>>174509142
They say it's to stop people from getting ahead of other players, yet they still let people buy steel
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>>174510714
you make me laugh
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>>174466323
you get a guaranteed grab against orochi light or heavy parry. Parried nobushi heavies act the same way parried LB heavies act. You'll whiff GBs most of the time unless their back is to a wall.

Also
>stunning tap

chain that into judge jury and executioner, nerd. Or feint either of the heavies. You have options as LB
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>>174466602
Raider is lowkey good. His heavy and light attacks have a similar animation and he can counter guard breaks while dodging. He also has great punish off knockdowns and an unblockable feint game for grey stam enemies.
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just played warden and jesus FUCK why can warden change guard so quick? no wonder wardens can parry well
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>>174510681
you seem to be upset
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>>174496149
Solution for all this is to go into a custom match and duel a botlord for 99 rounds
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New elite outfits out?
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>Have to play skirmish for the new order
>Standard 4v4 deathballing going on
>Teammates think it's more important to let everyone else die whilst they collect buffs and THEN die
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>Have to get 8 kills in Dominion without dying
>Do it against AI
>Die to a shoulderbash spamming level 3 bot just before the last kill
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>>174513864
>playing skirmish
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>>174513943
muh steel
>>
BUSHI HAS THE CAT EARS
BUSHI
HAS
THE
CAT
EARS
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>>174514003
Still, just go play dominion, much more tolerable.

Unless you're with a full team, or the order is to complete matches, it's probably going to take you a while to complete your skirmish order, and in that amount of time you might've been able to complete enough dominion matches for more steel/less stress.
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>New zerker ornament
My goddamn dick
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>Not interested in the new Kensei ornament that comes with the Elite outfit
>It gives you fucking tiger emblems

God damnit
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>>174514178
Daily for 2 matches as any non-vanguard, so all good. Skirmish wouldn't be so bad if people knew even the most basic bits of teamplay and elimination is just honorfag central, so yeah, I get you.
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What the fuck kind of error is 2310? I can't join any matches whatsoever. I have green NAT and everything
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>fight warden
>guard left
>they do a toplight
>I parry it
>rinse & repeat
>"wow anon you are really good at parrying"
Some people just never learn, do they?
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Did they add new outfits? where can i see all of them?
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>>174514305
Oh no, its the pupper head :'(
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>>174515224
in the game
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is the stream today or tomorrow?
and at what hour?
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>>174515490
I was asking because i'm at work and i cant play right now
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So tier 3 projectile feats are the gayest shit right after catapult, right?
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>>174516496
Just dodge them bro
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why THE FUCK can you active revenge in OOS? YOU ARE OUT OD STAMINA GET FUCKED ITS NOT A PUNISHMENT
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>Conqueror gets nerfed
>Struggle more against him than I ever did now
>>
>always throw heavy out to early to parry
>get fucked for it
>cant ever parry light
thanks fucking me enough so i cant parry anything
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>>174517461
I've said this in the past ten threads since the patch, it's because Conqueror players had to grow a brain and now they're just using him in an even more cancerous way.
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>>174517461
Because only the ELITE is still playing him now.
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>>174501040
Loran or Fendrel, all others are shit. Arcturus is okay.
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>>174518207
Arcturus is literally the shittiest of the five greathelms.

>flat top, please give me a concussion
>no breaths, poor ventilation and vision
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>>174518207
>unironically putting a visor plate over the front of a barbute
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>>174514874
Smart wardens won't throw attacks, or even attack. They just shoulder bash mixup so it's a game of GB or top light the dash into SB, or roll away. But parrying top lights on wardens who aren't smart is pretty satisfying.

t. LB
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MISERUM
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>>174501040

I like most of them, except for Arcturus (Just a plain version of Merope) and Dullahan.

I really wish I could fucking find the Loran helm as a purple.
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>>174518531
Misero*
>>
DER FLIEGER
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>Warden gets another big dumb creature ornament as large as his helmet
>>
NEKO BUSHI IS HERE

ANTLER KENSEI ADDED
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>>174514874
some people just don't want to learn
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>>174519509
>warlord

gameplay discarded
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>>174519774
madcuzbad
>>
Holy shit those antlers on the Kensei are rad as fuck
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>>174520002
I thought the antlers for Zerk and Kensei were meant for christmas. Maybe they were but Ubi realized that the game won't make it until then.
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>>174518531
Top Lights
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What ornaments can ninja possibly have that wont look ridiculous?
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>>174519509
>weeb emblem playing warden

deserves it
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why do all wardens think they're so fucking good? without teir shitty ass SB spam they're fucking shit and they know it

fucking cunts need to get gud and not rely on a fucking class to play the game
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>>174521189
why do all peacekeepers think they're so fucking good? without their shitty ass light spam they're fucking shit and they know it

fucking cunts need to get gud and not rely on a fucking class to play the game
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>>174521189
>>174521373
Really gets me going when I lose to crutch characters even though I know I'd outplay them otherwise
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>>174521189
>>174521373

blissful ignorance, us vs them mentality (you're just bad and need to learn to counter me), extremely immature
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>Third match in a row where I get disconnected at the very end

For the love of god ubi fix this shit
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yeees, finally catears for nobushi released!
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>>174521681
>target acquired
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>>174521465
>fighting rep20 warden
>kicking his ass
>use his heals 4 time and kills me with sprint attack and zones
>cant tell which way its attacking since both left/right flashes
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>>174520078
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>>174522081
>Fighting any class with a healing feat
>Kicking their ass
>They heal nonstop
>Eventually from all the damage/blocking they're doing from multiple health bars of me kicking their shit in they pop revenge
This is the worst shit
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>I'll never get to make my Warden look like pic related
Fuck Jewbisoft and their retarded design team.
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>>174522487

Go back to Breatonia faggot

dont you have an elf whose feet need kissing?
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>>174522647
>Not wanting to be a living Saint who fights for the lady.
Sigmar fag go and stay go. Plus the Lady chose us and not those faggy elves.
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>>174522901

The lady IS an elf

Filthy man thing....
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>>174497496
yes
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>>174523131

Lawman is greatest ally
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>>174521681
>my OC is still being posted
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>>174523131

>emote spamming LUL

Cancer
>>
why cant teammates fuck off and stop ruining my set ups?

>fighitng warlord hes out of stamnina
>about to get a hot 90 damage combo with raider
>pk light him so he dosent fall down

how braindead are these people?
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>>174520002
Ken always looks dapper as fuck! Just bought the descending dragon ornament last night, I'm now fending off bitches with my no-dachi. Might have to buy the new elite outfit now too.
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>>174523131
every video i see of people getting light parry is that they all use gamepad

is it really that much better with edited dead zones?
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>>174523684
I've had this shit happen all the time
>Playing elimination
>My enemy is one hit from dead
>GB him, start my heavy
>Teammate appears out of nowhere spamming lights, and fucking hits ME instead
>Enemy takes off running right away
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>>174523979

no
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>>174523979
Yes.
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>>174523449

Could you make some more?
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>>174524203
Possibly, but right now I'm mostly focused on Persona 5.
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>People spamming GBs against my raider

Guess I just can't do anything huh
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>>174524351

Makoto kensei when?
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>>174523882
>>174520002
What is it about the antlers that I don't see? I mean they are just silly looking deer horns, why do people like them so much?
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>>174524592
Could be fun.
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>These new cosmetics

Actually all of them are pretty good this time
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>>174524764
>Warden
>Anything about that outfit being pretty good
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>>174524076
>>174524108
well?
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>>174524568
you MIGHT consider countering it, just a suggestion
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>>174524854
It's better with less fucked deadzones. Mouse is still faster, but it really comes down to preference at that point.
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>>174524602
They were a real thing
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>>174524912
The point isn't that I can't tech it, it's that I can't do shit other than tech it or light poke for no damage. All Raider can do is parry and zone mindgames. I can't parry GBs and I can't zone without getting grabbed out of the startup.
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>>174524602
>>174524972
Also it's in samurai jack
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>Go against a law
>Drop my spaghetti everywhere and miss all my parries
>Go against a PK
>Light parries for days

Okay, what the fuck
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>>174525179
Your crimes lie heavy upon your conscience.
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>>174525179
>Go against that same PK again
>She goes for the Raider mirror for some reason
>Just bully her with lights and unblockables because she doesn't know how to block or parry

Okay
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>>174525179
Pk lights are predictable and spammy.
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>Want to buy stuff for my Law
>Can't bring myself to do it just in case there's either a price decrease on current stuff, or better stuff gets released at the start of season 2
Send help
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>>174525708
>not having 60k+ steel by now
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>>174524074
>Worse, give them revenge
>Back to square one
>>
Kensei and Berserker win the cosmetic round this time

and for Zerker the other shit youget is god tier looking on him with the full set unlike most of them.
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>>174525807
I've got 26k steel after getting three characters to 108, and one mythic outfit for another character.
Point is I don't want to waste 5-7k steel just to have something better or cheaper come out in a week or two
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>>174525109
I see where you're coming from but it's irrelevant to Samurai Jack, antlers helmet ornament are far from being an obscure things, you can find about them in pretty much every cultures that actually matters.
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>>174525902
Or even just steal my kill, that shit pisses me off in elimination
>Playing Lawbringer in elimination, really want to get my damage resistance after parrying second feat unlocked
>Faggot runs over and steals my kill with lights
>Go another round without a feat
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Are the new heroes gonna be like the old ones, where you can use them without buying them? Or do I need to cough up probably upwards to 15k Steel in order to use them?
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>>174525990
The wolf is fucking FIRE, but I don't know if I like it more than the Blood Skull.

It's weird playing a character that actually has enough good ornaments to warrant a choice like this. Maining Warden left something to be desired.
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>>174525990

Kensei and Berserker are the most aesthetic looking I am actually using other load outs with kensei since I have to much favorites
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>>174525990
>>174526185
>>174526279
The only thing I hate with Femkensei is that almost every helmet gives her a fuckugly face.

If it weren't for that she'd be my favorite character as far as a look go.
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>>174526279
I hope the whole cast gets antlers. But, like, Kensei's antlers. Not Berzerker antlers.
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>>174526396
Just play dudesei instead
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>>174525990
>>174526185
Someone post Beserker cosmetics. Don't want to recruit him just to see what they look like
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>>174526596
After this duel if no one else does
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>>174526647
Thanks senpai
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>>174525992
then you already have your answer
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>>174526596
they are all shit except the pupper head added today, so you'll see it literally everywhere
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>>174526787
The best thing about it is now he could be wearing a full helm under that and no one would know
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>>174526647
>>174526717
here's one thats not a pic of a fucking screen in 2K17
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>>174526891

Those are some slick colors
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>>174454560
Just hold your block Up. There, you now beat 90% of Orochis.
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>>174526937
I wish the yellow was straight brown. Blue/brown color schemes are my fetish when it comes to medieval shit.
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>Play Raider
>Fight a Nobushi or 'Zerk who knows how to feint their lights

Well this sucks dick
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>>174527397

ledge
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>>174526787
>>174526891
Now that's a fucking outfit. Shame that it's not for a character I play though
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>>174527487
>Ever getting a GB off in neutral
boi
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>>174527397
Feinting lights shouldn't even be a fucking thing, especially with how lightning fast a Nobushis lights are.
>Tfw half of Nobushies moves can only be punished with a light attack if you parry them
Hate this bullshit
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>>174527962
why is he attacking?
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>>174523979
maybe
>>
Whose dick do I have to suck to get a fucking plume for warden?
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>>174527927
>nobushi lights
>fast

nani?
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>>174527927
>Can only punish Nobushi with anything other than a light if you parry one of her lights
>You have to parry her lights almost as soon as you see them come out
>She can just start feinting every light

*inhales*
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>>174527927
Nobushi always attack in a straight fucking line though, and I understand why the berserker should be able to do that.
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>>174528150
Side lights are 500ms, tied for the fastest attack in the game. Just the parry window is huge.
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>>174528050
footsies

although im not sure why guile would go anywhere near those jabs for any reason
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>>174528239
I thought peacekeeper had 400ms lights
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>>174526135
Anyone?
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>>174528492
You're wrong. Zone used to be 400ms.
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>>174528530
>>174528492
Actually, correction. I'm only talking about initial lights. PK does chain into a 400ms light
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>>174528494
yes
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>>174528494
We don't know. Probably.
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>>174526135
We don't know. Most people are expecting them to be locked behind a paywall of around 10-15k steel
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>>174528141
the pope
but you'd better be a 12 year old boy or no plume for you heretic
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nobushi's cat ears are included with her new outfit
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WEW which one of you cucklords did this?
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>>174528494
no
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>>174528921
Reads like a false-flag, it was probably you.
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>>174529201
You underestimate the power of autism. Also the nerf did just hit console
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>>174529309
Yup. Like yesterday.
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>>174528921
>>174529201
>>174529309

quite frankly I didnt notice any difference in revenge
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So is anyone working on this for zerks new ornament?
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Do wallbangs not confirm side heavies for Raider?
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>>174529590
It definitely builds slower, and hits a little less
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>>174530529
Fuck, yeah I can do that after this duel.

Drawing or shop? Your choice, drawing it will take longer.
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>>174530532
It depends on distance and if you guard switch, IIRC
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>tfw practiced parries against 500ms until it was muscle memory
>now I can't parry slower lights because I heavy too soon

Kill me
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>tfw never know if I parried a light or a heavy so I can't confirm for max damage

am I retarded
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>>174527021
My nigger.
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>>174531142
If the enemy yelled when attacking, it was a heavy.
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Is Berserker the only character that has never once had an unblockable? Remember, those two hit confirms that characters like Orochi and PK have used to be considered unblockable attacks. They still are, they just don't flash orange.
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>>174523457
wow so salty
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>>174530725
I'd be happy with just a shop anon. It just seems like something that would happen eventually.
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>like domnion the most
>not fun becasue shit gear
>fastest way to level is to platy domnion

why is it rep fucking 3 before good gear

its impossible to comepete with shit gear in 4v4 modes
r
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>With the new console patch you can now be thrown into elimination matches that other people have quit
>This makes connections a million times more unstable with people quitting and new people joining
>The majority of people who join just quit because no one wants to be in an in progress game of elimination
THANKS UBISOFT
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>>174454560
>>174454560
>hes too scrub to handle orochis
*laughs in latin*
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>>174532594
fight vs AI?
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>>174532857
I knew the game was way more of a laggy disconnect-fest than usual. Nice one Ubi.
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Im so sick of shit players
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>>174533745
I've been playing a few hours this morning and already have been dropped into two elim games people quit, and have had a lot more games where people join in and replace a bot, even if that bot was dead and they spawn in alive.

But they also definitely broke something because disconnects are happening way more often
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>>174531748
So can I block the fallow up attack from the peacekeeper or am I dying to it because I try and change my guard.
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>>174532594
Dude it's not that hard. Stop being so shit. It's like a dark souls boss, shits fucking hard and you have to work for it but the pay off is worth it.
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>>174532594
Just camp C and ledge people, gear doesn't protect against ledging.
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>Load into elimination
>Find a game
>It throws me into an in progress game
>My entire team is bots
>I'm dead and spectating a bot getting gangbanged
>Ubisoft wants to punish me for quitting this
I guess the good news is that the punishments for leaving will never come because they'll never be able to fix these god awful connections
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>>174532108
This only took like 20 minutes to make. The other 30 were me doing more duels than just that one.
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>>174535987
Beautiful
Even the lighting is in place.
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>>174535987
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>>174536149
>>174536257
Are storymode jokes still funny? Because I also did this
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Elimination is actually p fun

it has a nice mix of what makes the other modes fun
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>>174536574
YES
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>>174536574
You know wolves don't bark
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berserker should get all block on its zone attack
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>>174536574
I approve of this, gj anon
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>>174536995
That's part of the original image my dyde. Didn't change it.
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>>174537048
That would be pretty fun. And make the retreating version useful.
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>>174536574
(You) earned this
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How the fuck do you learn new heroes past global rep 2? No matter what i try i get shit stomped so hard.
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When is the warden shoulder bash nerf coming? I need to know how much longer I can shit in people who suck. Btw shugs are a hard counter because they can eat the bash and block/parry the ligh attacks.
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>>174535987
>>174536574
Saved.
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>>174537614
Are you real? You get the same xp if you win or lose. Take each lose as a learning experience and forge your self in the fire of defeat. Also stop bitching.
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>>174453045
I came to ask this.

Thought I'd wait around for a price drop, but if the game has died this fast it probably wasn't that good anyway.
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>>174537614
Good fundamentals
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Why are all Kensei players such faggots
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>no patch notes
>still no executions
>still no decent LB, warden, conq outfits
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>>174537992
>No decent LB outfits
LB is already the most aesthetic in the game by a mile, it's the rest of us that need help.
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>>174538152
do you like jack off to warhammer or something
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>>174537992
>Still no decent matchmaking
I'm fucking SICK of trying to play elimination and having to carry the shit out of my team every single time. I should not be getting over ten kills when my teammates can only get one each
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All the knights need are plumes of varying colors.

Except for PK shes always in the Samurai faction anyway.
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>>174538386
>Knights all get plume ornaments except for PK
>PK gets one of those gimmick headbands that make it look like an arrow is going through your head
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>>174538516
KEK
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I just updated my game and now the performance has been drastically effected. I used to run matches from 70-80 fps but post 1.05 its running sub 30 at times. V scync is off.

FUCKING U PLAY
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Hitting Rep 30 on Law was a mistake.
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>new elite outfits this week
>HAVE TO WAIT ANOTHER WEEK FOR THE EXECUTIONS

holy fuck, no one cares about elite outfits
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https://youtu.be/ujwDYD6tH04?t=673

Warden against Tru3Talent without SB, 3-0. Attacks too slow to be viable at high level play, zones that are predictable and top lights that are reactable.

I agree, let's nerf his shoulder bash and not give him any more moves to compensate!
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>>174539102
careful there friend, you're going against the established narrative in these threads
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>>174538386
I NEED plumes. Please. I'll even pay money for it.
>>174538219
Do you not? Go fuck your self.
>>174537968
Kensais are pretty cool dudes most the time. Except Black_catz on pc, dudes a fag.
>>174537917
Game is still alive, I've never waited more then 10 seconds to find a game. Titan Fall 2 is a game with much less content and it's still alive too.
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>>174539102
Nerf vortex by weakening its ability to chain into itself. It lets shoulder bash still be strong neutral game, just as strong as it is now, but it stops it from being a constant offensive.

Literally just make neutral shoulder bashes the same, but increase the stamina cost heavily for each subsequent SB.
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>patch hit console
>pk lights still have not been toned down to valk and nobushi level
>still way too much damage on every attack
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>>174539687
PK light chain nerf is expected in 1.06

who knows what they'll do, but the speed of the second attack needs to be toned way the fuck down and the damage needs to be toned way the fuck down

you can have the fastest character in the game, but holy fuck she shouldn't be doing the same damage as characters slower than she is
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>>174539573
I think that's the plan. Shoulder bashes mechanics are working as intended, the 50/50 isn't going anywhere.
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>>174539573
Knowing Ubi, they'll make it a fucking pittance.

Like how they increased Warlord's headbutt stamina use from 12 to 15% (OMG SO BALANCED). They increase Warden's SB by like, 2%.

Shugo can fuck off though, oni charge should take 100%.
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no they aren't

>I only lost because I play Kensei

then dont fucking play Kensei
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>>174539102
>Attacks too slow to be viable at high level play
This is every single character except for PK.
The atacks in this game are way too slow.
But hey lets make every atack as slow as possible, so any idiot can be good at the game, right?
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>>174539687

Worst part for me is that the game is more unstable than ever.
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>>174540126
They nerfed warlords tracking making headbutt easy to dodge and punishable. The stam nerf didn't matter.
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>>174540148
any non meta character has those types of players
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>>174540014
she does more damage than characters slower than her

she gets 32 dmg from her 2 lights
warden for example gets 24
almost everyone else gets 15 dmg max
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One of the devs has to main PK. It's fucking ridiculous how she's still near unbeatable just by spamming lights. I can keep up with them as long as they do literally anything beside light spam, but once they start it's just trying to fucking guess where the light is coming from.
I just want to quit against high rep PKs, because I already know it's going to be nothing but light spam and unpunishable zones
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>>174540223
At least other classes have abilities that you can rely on to compensate.
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>>174523979
I just use a default DS4, no program or anything, just plug and play.
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>>174540126
Honestly, Shugoki's coolest move is fucking demon's embrace. I would love to see him balance him more in that direction: moves that are great if they land, but fucking terrible if they don't.

Make Oni charge, if missed, take all of Shug's stamina and knock him over. Makes the move more balanced in that spamming it is actually a risky endeavor, and you get the joy of seeing some fat fucks trip and fall on their faces.
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>>174540419
>light spam
Then just fucking parry.
>b-but I can't
Then stop pretending that you are at high level.
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>>174540223
My only problem with 500ms attacks is that they shouldn't chain into another 500ms attack. I'm fine with pokes, i'm less fine with characters with slow stance change being forced to take a second hit if they miss the first block.

Besides, what does having 500ms chains even do other than promote spamming?
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>>174540465
>he tried to crushing counter in the very beginning
You can't hide your true colors, Warden.
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>>174540687
I'm not even the guy you reply to, but did you read his post? Lightspam is dumb to try to parry the instant you realize they know how to feint and to flicker. Yeah, if they're smashing the fucking light button and wiggling the stick it's a walk in the park. However, because of how quickly you have to react to parry them, you really don't have time to try to react to a flicker or a feint.

That's what he's bitching about: people who know how to use lightspam as a tool, not as the cornerstone of everything they do.
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>>174540518
The issue is it's pretty fucking hard to miss with Oni Charge, the hitbox is literally the size of a locomotive engine.

They should be able to use it to clear a narrow walkway or to escape, but it should never be an opener. If they won't touch stamina usage, the recovery should be long enough that they can't get a fucking side heavy off of it. Instead, make it so they can follow with a side light, since a side light doesn't have the insane reach or tracking of a side heavy and therefore forces them to be more accurate with their oni charge release.
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>>174540687
>Parry the fastest light chain in the game consistently
>Pls ignore that she can whiff the first light for an even faster second light, parry it anyway!
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>>174541351
Not the guy you're arguing with, but come on dude. Parry the initial light. It is not that hard my friend.

I agree that, in PKs case, the followup speed and the damage of her lights needs to be toned down, but don't act like the shit is unparriable.

Tell you what, I'm on console. Want me to go into Level 3 duel practice and webm me parrying a few Valk lights in a row? I'll even do it with Raider.
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>>174541754
It is hard to parry the initial light. Especially when it's chained with her other tools in the shit
>Zone cancel into a random direction light
>Feint a heavy into light
Seriously, it's not easy playing against easy mode the character
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>>174541754
>look at me I can parry bots
lul
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>>174541754
>Parry the initial light
not him but its bullshit how the 2nd come out right after the first
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>>174542186

this kek

when a PK starts feinting you are fucked
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>>174541754
OddGirl go and stay go
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>>174542162
Yeah, it's dumb when it's mixed in with all her other good shit, but the dude was complaining about purely light spam. I'm guessing the PKs he's fighting don't do a whole lot of mixing.

>>174542186
People stop attacking after I parry the second light they throw out. Figured 3 in a row would make for a better webm.

>>174542307
>Literally say that PK should be nerfed in the post you reply too
How am I the bad guy when my entire point is that 500ms lights can be consistently reaction parried
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>>174542648
I am the same guy, I thought it went without saying that PK is fucking ridiculous with her mix ups, but also with how she can just intentionally whiff her light to get faster ones.
Her attacks are simply too fast to react to, especially when you start mixing in a minimal amount of feints and zones
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>>174480636
MUH DIK
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I think I just had the full deluxe in Dominion.
>My team, none of them past level 10
>Their team, everyone past rep 3
>Wardens that sucks themselves in their own vortex
>Valkyries that sweep the entire map
>None of my teammate even capped a single zone
>A single fucking zone
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>>174543050
>Her attacks are simply too fast to react to

See, there you go again. You get close to making a good point, and then throw it away. Her lights are only too fast if she's using them sparingly enough to where you can't be sure if it's actually a light, a feint, or a flicker. On their own, they are literally fine.

Except the followup. A 400ms followup is unfair.
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>>174543779
oh just noticed that the other guy was just thrown off, oh well.
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New Outfits!
First for Cat Sidhe Nobushi
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>>174543961
>Cat sidhe
>Nipponese
u wot
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>>174497404
>roughly 50% of the time
Warden's vortex is buggier than fuck
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>>174543739
Yes, on console her light spam is too fast to accurately react to.
>B-but I can parry bots
That's not proving otherwise
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>>174543961
Not really what i was expecting. Oh well.
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>>174544305
But I'm literally on console and can react to her light spam accurately. Explain this, atheists.

Timing doesn't change whether or not it's a player or a bot, light spam is light spam. Was literally just for convenience. Next PK I get that's going hard on the lights, I'll throw a round only parrying her without killing her. Just for you.
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>Do Shove -> Light
>Get parried
Legit af for sure
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>>174507964
Which if you get hit once by, with certain characters, you can't do shit as it just eats stamina
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>>174544860
>WORKS ON MY MACHINE
She's literally banned from console tournaments because her light spam is too fast to keep up with on consoles. Your opinion means nothing compared to that
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>>174545227
Light spam when mixed with feints and zones. Not just purely light spam. One is impossible to deal with on console. The other is hard to punish unless you can nail parries. No console PK has won a tourney by smashing R1 and wiggling the stick and nothing else.

Are we having two different arguments?
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>Frenchman orochi join the lobby
>Starts flooding the chat in baguettestani
>Since I'm Belgian I understand it all
>He's basically throwing every known insults in the language

Nobody even said anything, he just started spazzing out.
Frogs are difficult to deal with in most games but christ why are they so constantly hostile in this game.
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>>174545872
>dueling a frenchman
>my teammate comes from behind and Demon Embraces him to death
>"c'est quoi ce bordel"
>Recovering gamestate. Please wait...
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>fighting an entire team with Spanish flags as their emblems
>all hovering between red bar and yellow bar connections
>can literally reverse time by five seconds and kick me into spike walls while on my screen they should be flying off a ledge

And magically, nobody gets error coded out of the match, what the fuck.
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>>174539102
>attacks too slow to be viable
>side left chain that all but guarantees two hits
>Zone so fast most people wont be able to switch their guard before getting whacked
Get fuckt m8
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Fuck you guys. It ain't early

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>LB buffs finally here
>only thing that really helped is a cheesy 50/50 that just causes salt.
>I'd rather just go and play warden
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>>174541339
All charges have insane tracking and hitboxes. They honestly should just tighten it up.
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>>174541754
Valk is a lot different than peacekeeper.
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>>174544868
>Believing that LB will ever be decent
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>>174544145
Fine anon, kuro Nekomimi Nobushi-kun




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