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>>174595929Can one of the lunapedos provide the mid shadow deck everyone is playing please? I want to see exactly how I want to tech against it.
>>174595971>I want to see exactly how I want to tech against it.literally just replace novice trooper with blitz lancer
>>174595926>no thank you dubcuckWrong, i am playing with jap voice. Apologize now.
Should I craft 2 Tyrants for this?https://twitter.com/en_roller120/status/853477775528779776/
>>174595971You can't tech against it, you're fucking sword. Unless you want to build some gimp commandercraft deck with negative winrate.
Is Discard Dragon the only honest deck?
>>174596121Why would you ever?Tyrant will always be shit when you make a deck around it unless you get a necromancy tutor.
>I decided on a prohibited card for each leader without permission
>>174595971>teching against mid shadowlol
Just be yourself /svg/
>Take a two week break to see if the meta improves >Last thread everyone is still bitching about dragon, shadow, and to a lesser extent Aegis > No promising new decks Is there any hope left for this game?
>>174596246No, that's spearcraft
>>174595971>teching against shadowWon't happen, just smash dat concede button, ericuck.
>even forest is running grimnir alongside ancient elf
>>174595971fririn's list is probably the most popular but there's no definite list. As for teching, just use tripple Swing/Unica/Grimnir to disrupt the early game and try to go on the aggressive and finish the game with Storm, you can't win a dragged out fight against Shadow unless you are Dragon so don't bother playing ward.
>>174596351>the first month of RoB was completely fine and ToG is easily the worst expansion
i am a shadownigger and i am proud of it. nerf dragon though its too strong
>>174596363How dare they try to take Arisa's husband away from her.
>>174596721Kill yourself, shadownigger
>Israfil's effect destroy Ouroboros, proc its effect first before Israfil goes face>The Nip cuck can't realise this and concede right during the attack animation.Top kek.
>>174596721at least you're honest
>death's ledger is actually working out alrightI'm so sorry for calling you useless. Just the card alone provides enough shadows for Death's Breath and put a threat on the field that the opponent usually can't ignore. In a slower and more control heavy meta, the card would fare pretty well.
do classes other than dragon even get to 10 pp in the current meta
>>174596492His list is mediocore and unpolished. The only good thing is lurching + conversion combo. You don't need single urd, thane, also 2 lurching corpses might be enough. Instead he could've added a few 1 drops and have much better early game. In his list he doesn't have a lot of targets for soul conversion, so sometimes he's forced to kill useful 2pp followers. It's like he's too scared of dragon, to the point of sacrificing early game just to add a few more tools against dragon. Any other midrange shadow list would be superior, It's even worse when he's in mirror match, goes second and doesn't have 1pp drop.
Will Sneks be viable one day?
kys needs to be nerfed. 1 4 into 4 4 into 4 4 into fucking jammer is too op
>>174597164Also spartoi sergeant is one of the worst 2pp units for shadow. Literally any neutral unica or lyrial is better.
>>174597204It's pretty good against sword, forest and non-dirt rune.
>>174597164>His list is mediocore and unpolishedyou're playing it wrongbe more patient>>174597036jungle warden isn't just a 4/5 ward
>>174597294>>174596492Post dick please
>>174597164>trying to put something else in 4 and 5 slots instead of howl and cerb>it's impossible
>>174597294>you're playing it wrongbe more patientWhat do you mean?
>>174597268it's probably for the haven matchup where they can deny shadows.
>>174597279>Evol fairy and goes faceDumb elf who don't know how to use her brain, no wonder her kind only exist to become Orc's cumdump.
>win 1 match as forestcraft
>>174597164you don't understand midrange very well at all.you're thinking too aggro for that deck.
>>174595971>>174597164there's no single refined midrange shadow list, the deck is extremely modular and flexible by nature. even fririn went through like 45 different builds and can't tell which one is the best.
>someone's listAre you guys retarded? Netdecks doesn't have owners, it doesn't matter from which fuck some garbage site picked it first from.
>>174597359he means "reddit"
>>174597164That's not even the final version.
>>174597359he means play value, generate shadows and draw like a motherfucker into your eachtars instead of trying to be a worse aggro.
>>174597268Sarge is legit, you need that extra shadow for Squasher and DB since you don't have Catacomb every game.
>>174597560Nobody uses obvious decks as it is. Of course there's variations.
>>174596542So basically the game is shit?
>Win 3 as dragon>lose 4 in a row to shadow going second every gameWhy anyone plays this garbage craft
>>174597631>>174597560>>174597457>stupid faggots think that if you put 6 1s and 15 2s instead of more logical 8-9 1s and 12-13 2sit automatically becomes "aggro"also>1 urd 1 thanejust put fucking phantom howl there you fucktard, jesus crist
>>174597456>15 concedes laterPlaying Forestcraft is suffering
>>174597829>instead of more logical 8-9 1s and 12-13 2sso basically aggro?again, you don't understand the point of midrange. you're just another shitter that plays aggro with hektor on top and thinks you understand """"""midrange""""""". stop posting about midrange.
>>174597829nigger, the problem is that you think midrange and aggro should be played the same way, which is wrong. the reason why you're not doing well with that deck is because you're playing it like an aggro deck.
>>174598023>m-muh 2 1s absolutely changing the deck from aggro to midrange!
>>174597829>8-9 1 drops>enjoy running out of steam on turn 5 just like an aggro deckThere a reason I've stopped playing that shit deck in the first place
>>174597829It's up to you, m8. That's how it works for most people and I think the results have been pretty good so far.
>>174596363>of all the cards prohibit YuriusI guess Nips don't play blood at all.
>>174597829i bet you play storm haven like an aggro deck too
>>174598069what are you even talking about. i'm saying you don't need many 1s at all in midrange. i've played with 0 (zero) before. does that blow your unga bunga mind?
>>174598083>>174598089>>174598076>>174598023C0here you go my deckplaying it in AA2you can copy if you want, i allow it
>>174598087Which makes farming Nips as Blood so sastifying.
>>174598197>AA2I'm in Masters m8, I don't need some low rank deck.
>>174598069I've reached masters with midrange shadow that didn't run any 1 drops and reapers.What now?
>>174598197>aa trashCome back when you have 75% WR over a thousand games and take the #1 Masters spot.
>>174598197>grimnirI wish that card would just fuck off from every deck in existence.
>>174598280>>174598298>>174598301>>174598298still nothing said about my "lowrank" deckpathetic B0 shitters lmao
>>174598423It's nothing special with some borderline useless cards.There, satisfied?
honestly if you guys dont have 100k master points dont even think of posting your shitty deck here
>>174598471wowyou have to be some kind of critic in real lifeyou said literally nothing besides "i don't like it"at least reach AA then we talk
>>174598197As I said, it's up to you. The core of the deck is so strong that almost anything can work, and the deck is flexible enough that you can include of tech choice. Even fririn himself said there's no strongest list even after testing out 48 variants, so just play whatever you are most comfortable with.
i don't want to play anymore
Is it possible to play on your steam account on a completely different pc than your original? I've heard there are complications with this.
>>174598529First you reach masters.
>>174598529are you delusional enough to think everybody in this thread other than you is below AA
>>174598197>2 deaths breathAA3 here, you literally don't understand aggro AND midrange. you're playing something inbetween, which is fine since both are viable anyway.that still doesn't mean you understand midrange, and by extension firin's list.
>>174598197>goblin>2x death's breath"""""""midrange""""""""
>>174598423Here, have a (you)This one's on the house.
>>174597456>>174597915Try aggro forest.
>>174598601>firin's list.post list please
>>174598675soulless ginger slut
>>174595971White paladin, cyclone blade are crutch against them.I think every game I won against shadow included casting at least one of those.Going all in on wards with Aurelia and Fortress general also works, but then you autolose against Dragon/Haven/Dshift.
>>174597829It's impossible to put urd if your deck isn't built around it. I mean it's possible but that might be the least efficient way to use her.>>174597457>>174597631Just adding 2 1pp followers wouldn't hurt, instead it results in much more favorable mirrors. Constantly skipping 1st turns wouldn't help, even if you play such a strong deck. Anyway midrange shadow nowadays is as much midrange as rob sword. You can even fit some phantom howls in, personally i don't like the idea cause i played with them previously.>>174597471>>174597560Sure thing, i just feel that his list can be easily modified into better one. I bet he doesn't use it anymore.More midrange'ish variant might use goblin princess instead of thane, Doesn't force you to spend evolve like cerberus and suddenly opponent have to deal with 3 followers or take a gamble. That's especially scare on turn 6, even if you don't have death's breath. Turn 7 might be eachtar and every goblin results in 3 face damage.
>>174598730That's the latest 47th version
>>174598750Nice rebuttal.Speak to you in 2 hours, I need to get going for now.
HOLY SHIT LOOK AT THIS DIFFERENCE OMG JAPANESE SUGOIreddit fags please go back
>>174598730Here you go, open widegame-ai.jp/30691/
>>174598807>swapped orthrus for necroassassindid he get buttraped buy hordes of dragons recently or what
Whats with these tournaments where you get 10k vials for first place, NGE Shadowverse NA Open? Are tournaments like this free to participate in?
>>174598872Yes. Also the more you play it the more you realize how useless orthrus is beyond turn 4 play.I run 2 Urds though. Used to run 3 Urds 3 Attendants instead of chimeras but not being able to attack follows was getting annoying.
>>174595971>teching against shadowAww. New players are so cute.
>>174599016It just asks you to verify your account on the new pc and that's it.
>>174598572>First you reach mastersi will at some point, just like everyone who plays regulary. I am already mostly playing masters>>174598574that's actually truewe did some strawpoll few months back and it was horriblenow it's even worse>>174598601i don't remember why i removed the 3rd>>174598675>didn't include pointslow trash masters should not applyYou all are literally deranged, except this one guy>>174598531
>when you're climbing the ladder as good ol' fashioned aggro bloodfeels good man
>>174598807Looks like he went full retard anti-dragon way. Can't say i like it but at least he replaced useless thane.
>>174599082>except this one guyExactly, so stop telling other people how many 1 drops they should play and fuck off.
give me your roach lists
>>174599081I'll explain the situation properly. I got my friend into this game but I offered to just have us account share. If I recall correctly there is an issue with me logging into my steam account on his computer because my sv account won't work in such a manner.
Where is the 9M download event?
>>174599187you all literally said nothing but "i'm in masters i swear"like a fucking retards you arenothing on topickill yourself and go back to shitposting on /v/
Anyone try big guy forest with Canopies, Gigas' and One Punch Meme?
>>174599206If you want to share an account he needs to log in to your steam account to play.You can't link the same SV account to two different steam users.
>>174598982>Also the more you play it the more you realize how useless orthrus is beyond turn 4 play.Only against dragon. You can still find it useful against 5 other crafts, especially most popular craft - shadow.
>>174598531what do you think about this one
>>174599258Everything should be fine then, thank you.
>>174599245Has master of the memes ever worked?
>>174599258Couldn't his friend also play through an android emulator without any issues?
>>174598197can you shadowfags just fuck off to another game already?
>>174599340>dolorbladeYou can try him but he probably wouldn't work very well, the deck aims to go wide not tall.
>>174599243I am not him but here's your on topic points >>174598794As you can see no one bothered to reply, people just to busy to shitpost AA guy who plays his own deck.
THATS THE WRONG FUCKING FROG TO GIVE ME ANIMATEDS OFREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>174598874I checked out the tournament link and there is no mention of an entry fee for these tournaments so its safe to assume that entry is free?
>>174599502>AA3 hereIt's funny that the guy below masters think that his rank is worth mentioning and makes him somehow good at this game. He probably only netdecks from gameai but thinks that he knows a lot about midrange decks.
is it autistic if i like to think out my plays out loud?
"forest counters dragon"proceeds to get zell ourod twice in a row. peoplecan fuck off with their d0 thinking
>>174599716Anyone who doesn't talk to themselves isn't worth talking to
>>174599518i kinda want to use him as activator for attendant/lurching corpsehe's 6/7 without evolve if you use his fanfare, which i found pretty niceother way, i'm too afraid to test him in ranked and unranked wins are still mostly on eachtar
>>174599716You should start streaming
Storm Jannu or kys blood?
>airjammer>drops 2 Yurius.Nice fucking card.
>tfw matches always end before I can play t10 grimnir
>>174599898dick?the only blood ive ever player was bats
>>174599930replace yurius with summon bloodkin if you want. that way airjammer will only pull imp and wolf
>>174599748I dunno, if he's just a winmore then there's no point to him. Have there been cases where he wins the game tempo for you or actually hits hard enough to put the opponent in lethal range?
>>174599418I got meme by canopy and ariet combo in a free match.
>>174600061nah, he mostly like baits hard removal or somethingor he doesn't have a target for fanfare, which is also badi think i will need to replace necroass with him or something, 3urd/2ass/3dolor/2soul sounds like too much activators
27 master winstreak Ramp Dragon for the low low price of 65,000 vials. https://twitter.com/GameAI_jp/status/855388983873773568
>>174599996Yurius cucks Shadow, which is like 70% of the ladder.
>>174600391I'm already playing this deck, lost 1k points today
>>174600446It's also decent because it doesn't get wiped out by Salamander
>>174600525most of the followers in kys blood don't.
>>174600061i just feel like the deck lacks anything biglike i can shit out skeles or zombies, but if i don't have a good curve and haven/dragon has im fuckedI also tested some zombie dude, who gets 2/2 for 4 shadow at the end of every turn, pretty cool too
Eris is cute, CUTE!
>>174600391I've been farming this deck with kys bloodIt's too slow
>>174600617eris pleases bald old men for banishes
>>174598529>brags about his sub-masters rank>but shits on the list of someone who literally took top 1 mastersWhat did he mean by this?
>>174600657>deck has unlimited variations>B0 faggots ignore that fact and just suck jap cock because they don't know betteri know exactly what did they mean by this
I believe that you all misunderstand the balancing of card games.Decks are always impossibly hard to balance in card games because of how open-ended the system is. There are always archetypes that one could miss like OTK Aggro Roach. Instead, decks are balanced out by the increase of decks that counter them. For example, in early RoB, Aggro Blood and Daria were dominating decks. This gave rise to the counters to them like CBlood and Sahaluci. And again, these are countered by Aggro Roach. Thus, the winrates of the decks in these chain are regulated by the popularity of each of the deck archetypes, keeping them all close to 50% in an open format.I believe it is the same for TotG Dragon and Shadow. We just need the current meta to mature. I'm sure Midrange Shadow will eventually stabilize at 50% winrate. If everyone plays midshadow, it will always be 50%.
>dshift gets that 1/10000 7th turn dshift game against youhahaaaaa
>>174600782>deck has unlimited variation>some low rank scum with less than 1000 games thinks he know better than a guy who probably played 10000Why did he mean by this?
>>174600782>deck has unlimited variations>AA faggot thinks the variation used by the top masters player is mediocre and unpolished
>>174600782Still doesn't mean your list is better than his, especially when you brought out rank as a point of contention.
https://shadowverse.com/news/maintenance/news-0096https://shadowverse.com/news/important/news-0095>no nerfs announced
>>174600978>>174600929>>174600913you don't evenfuckingnowwhat he uses you don't know shit about deckbuilding or value of cards, you just netdeckingthat's why you have no argumentskys shitters
>>174599245I've tried a version of it. Wolf helps as it reduces the cost to zero and you can do combo shenanigans. I had to merge it with Lock Forest as well and it did ok. Most of my success was probably due to decent draws and playing off meta and tricking people.
>>174600886No, you stupid fucker. Every card game need ban list and limited per number cards aka semi-limited.
>>174599692how about you learn to read the reply chain you shitter. i posted that because it was actually relevant.the guy i replied to was AA2 (>>174598197) and HE was the one trying to be smartass about firin's midrange. this is the retard you're defending here:>>174599243>>174599082>you all literally said nothing but "i'm in masters i swear"i'm pretty sure all i ever said was you don't know jack about midrange and you still haven't replied to that.>i don't remember why i removed the 3rdwell that's because you don't know shit about midrange. and by extension you should not give advice on midrange decks.>i will at some point, just like everyone who plays regulary. I am already mostly playing mastersdo you have no fucking shame? talking about """"""low masters"""""""" when you're still in AA2?
>>174601073>add 3 goblins>l-look at my "homebrew" deckAre you that Daria fag?
>>174601064They are busy fixing Phoenix roost
>>174601064Thank you Cygames for allowing the game a chance to flesh out the meta more.
>>174601064>– Fixes related to returning to matches>You can now return to matches in ranked, unranked, Take Two and private single matches. You may not be able to resume a match after a certain period of time.This is pretty significant.
174601143 not even going to give you replies you reddit shittergo back>>174601161that was not a fucking point of my postnow re-read this>>174601073 15 more times untill you'll get it
>>174601206So that means you can rope someone then DC and he'll have to wait the extra time before he could quit?
>>174601226>couldn't get enough (you)'s so he gave himself a (you)here have another one for all your hard work
>>174600782no you shitter, the deck has 2 (TWO) versions and unlimited variations inbetween. and you don't grasp either versions playstyle fully but are still trying to give advice on midrange.kill yourself
>>174601226>you don't even know what he usesWho's he? Because we know both decks in question.
>>174601136>ESL AND retardedWhy would you add a banlist and limited list? There's no advantage to banning cards in a digital game. You can directly nerf them.
>>174601250lmao, I'm gonna have fun with shadowniggers
>>174601073But this list >>174597164 was literally what he used? And he had a 75% winrate with it on top Masters, but somehow you still think it's shit and unpolished.
>>174600929>AA faggot thinks the variation used by the top masters player is mediocre and unpolishedIt wasn't even his post. In case you're wondering i am not AA, just a master with 5k points. Do i have to be #1 in ladder to have my own opinion? Besides you can't even reply to my arguments about fririn's deck, all you do is shitpost. fririn doesn't even use that original deck anymore, only proves that it was not good enough.
can zell get fucking nerfed faster. apparently zell ouro is balanced because it uses a single evo point.
>>174601370>>174601314>>174601295>>174601282how stupid are you motherfuckers
>>174601416>correct wayThat top 1 master deck is interesting but I don't personally like some of the choices so I put my own preferable cards>the faggot AA2 rank wayhurr that deck is absolute shit, does he even has an early game? I'm AA2 and my deck is much better don't suck that Japanese dick all day D0 shitters.
>>174601073we do know what he uses.a mishmash homebrew that works for him. mishmash, meaning he can't commit to either aggro or midrange. and this is the guy who's trying to lecture the #1 player."""netdecks""" are there to be studied you fucking imbecile. decks that work do so for a reason, maybe you should look into their strategy instead of being a complete shitter and assuming you know everything like that guy does.
>>174601476>plays the pronoun game>people are the ones who are stupid for not getting what's going on in his retarded brain
>>174601476>i was just baiting lmaoAlright, here's what you want
>>174601476Heal me Unica
>>174601598>>174601586how many times i have to explain to you untill you get ithere is curve comparison of our decks >>174598832now tell me, does that 2 1s transform my deck automatically in "aggro"?I know you don't know how stupid you are, but at least can you shut the fuck up and stop sperging out?
>>174601416which arguments? i haven't seen any?unless you're talking about adding 1pps, which will just lead to more bad draws.
>>174601206What I want to know is if this will allow us to reconnect with a different device. Being able to reconnect with my phone when my ISP shit the bed while playing on my desktop would be nice.
>>174601416>fririn doesn't even use that original deck anymore, only proves that it was not good enough.Recognizing changes in the meta and constantly adapting your deck is how you maximize your winrate. There is no single perfect version.
>>174601779truebetter put 3 goblins in my deck
I think people, who are too dumbfuck for reddit migrated herebecause i just don't believe they were here from the beggining
>>174601143>how about you learn to read the reply chain you shitter. i posted that because it was actually relevant.How about you calm down, big boy. Calling me shitter doesn't make your post filled with arguments instead of insults.As for ranks, you can basically climb with ane half decent shadow or dragon deck, doesn't prove anything really. Pure numbers with 99% winrates during 99999 games doesn't prove anything either. Nolifers can grind all day with 51% wr deck and you'll never catch them.
Is AA1-AA2 ELO hell?Ever since I got into AA2 I've been gaining ladder points as a fantastic rate.
>9 hours update>for absolutely nothingl m a o
>>174602202It depends.If you play dragon or shadow you'll be gaining ladder points at a fantastic rate no matter what.If you play something lol
>>174602303I've been climbing with aggro blood actually.
>>174601721you're so dumb it hurts.>8 1 pps vs 6 lmao XDXDno, you have 3 more followers while having one less draw card. do you want a strong start? then SIX 1pps is not consistent. do you want drawpower and shadow generation and last word combos?, then TWO conversions are not enough.it again just shows your inability to commit to one strategy or the other. you are the type of retard who will run many 2 ofs because you can't commit to a playstyle.now i will specifically adress your other retarded """changes""":>2 lurchingless consistency and effectiveness for urd and conversion, for what? more goblins, i.e. more aggro? you will never outaggro an actual aggro deck no matter what you're doing if you run lurching. that's why you're playing midrange and not aggro. will you EVER understand the difference?your entire post in >>174597164 is dumb as fuck>"The only good thing is lurching + conversion combo">but 2 lurching are enough>"In his list he doesn't have a lot of targets for soul conversion">and yet you want him to drop lurching to 2>"goes second and doesn't have 1pp drop">that's because you're not aggro and midrange will never outaggro aggro no matter what.>>174602023i agree. but again, i'm not the retard obsessed with rank. i litreally mentioned it so he couldn't say i was below him in rank.
>>174601730>unless you're talking about adding 1pps, which will just lead to more bad draws.Yes, i was talking about this. You don't run out of steam with soul convertions and follower generators anyway, just try it. The deck consists mostly of 1-2-3 drops anyway, adding high cost thanes doesn't necessarily make it better, even if it looks more midrange'ish to you. Sometimes low pp followers like lurching corpse are just better than high cost dance of death for 5pp.>>174601779Meta didn't really change match, We just lost aegis haven as a legit "strong" deck in ladder, now it's only shadow or dragon for the most part. Still i don't see how his adjustments helps against mirrors. If you want to make your deck better according to meta you should tech against shadow more, like i saw a deck with necroelementists, makes more sense. Personally i like bone chimera over that or grimnir.
>>174602365This deck has above 50% winrate actually.That's why.
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174602410there is literally one guy who knows the basics of card games and leddit army who just netdecked to masters/simply lied about it/never played the deck and just suck japanese sugoi cockalso you are replying to 2 different peoplei know it's not leddit, so please, go backand again no (you) upvotes for you
>>174601327Contradictory useless idiot, both of you.
>>174602417>You don't run out of steam with soul convertions and follower generators anyway, just try it.the point is you will never capitalize on 1pps the same way as aggro does.and soul conversion can be used on anything. random 1pps are actually bad since you also draw into more of them with conversion. again, not very useful in midrange, you don't need 1pps to build a board. you're not necessarily trying to pressure from t1 and you don't have the consistency to do that anyway with 6 1pp followers.you peak at 7pp. you have time.>The deck consists mostly of 1-2-3 drops anywayno, that's aggro.
tfw the only time I managed to go 5-0 was with fucking Belphegor + Serpents comboI really want to do a lot of take two but self sustaining it is impossible if you only go 4-1, I miss the old take two rewards
>make shitty no saha storm ramp>get fucked by mostly aggro shadow blood and sword, occassional roach>tend to win against mirror especially costly saha rampDamn I suck
>>174600897Stop playing 2 drops against Dshift then.If you feed their Kaleido's you'll turn 6 DShifts more often. Especially if it's BladeShift that's getting popularity.
rate me /svg/
>>174602819not him but>the point is you will never capitalize on 1pps the same way as aggro doesyou still run princeyou have to put 1s for mirrors. Sometimes just passing T1 against dragon can be a disaster, especially going 2nd>again, not very useful in midrange, you don't need 1pps to build a boardyour zombies come into the game only at T6, you need to have something on board, otherwise you lose to dragon
>>174602982she is my waifu and i never see anyone else playing her
>>174602465>>174602734Don't you know to reply properly you fucking retard?
>>174602982would be better if it cost 5 and had enhance (9): can attack twice
>>174603045that is because people still think 9pp do nothing is good
There is no greater joy than memeing on ramp players with hobo frog.
https://twitter.com/sugitaLOV/status/855393038511644672Sugita (Rowen's VA) hits Master.
>>174602982why doesn't she have regenerating armpit hair
>>174603167>forte leaderwhy though. does he feel uncomfortable hearing his own voice ingame or something
>>174598535C'mon anon. This was my 7 win daily today. Shadowkeks still getting rekt by Dragon and Aegis despite the horrible matchup between each of them. Maybe I should record to show those dam Shadowbbs falling apart.
>>174603045I would use her if I had her.
>>174603167>rowen playing fortewhat is this sacrilege
>>174603167>using dorkNot muh JO bro
>>174603167>it's forte instead of rowen
>>174603135Oh yes there is.
174603047oh the ironyonly people with 4chan gold can reply like that you should buy it too if you want to support this site
>>174600886yeah I agree with this
So what the fuck is the counter to shadow?
>>174603359Ask this guy >>174603268
>>174603359playing haven and drawing literally all your banishes
>>174603359daria with iceforms and kaleidos, not even kidding
>>174603359Midshadow goes even against midshadow. Probably the best counter right now.
>>174603359Pray to go first and they brick hard.
>>174603450Dumbass, even midshadow can't compete with midshadow's dominance. It's a 6-4 matchup at best.
>>174603167HEARRematch with the elf woman when?
>>174602734i play both versions of the deck and played aggro since RoB, that's why i'm calling you a shitter.>hasn't replied to a single pointcomplete and utter shitter. kill yourself.>>174603032>you still run princebecause you still have tons of other low drops to use him with.basically you're making up for a weaker start with a strong midgame. and in order to have that you can't afford to run too many 1pps that will make for mediocre plays for all turns except the first few.and "weaker start" doesn't mean nonexistent. you also have removal, lurching combos etc to keep the opponent at bay while building your own board. look at it like this, instead of running a few 1 drops, you run a bone chimera instead. that's kind of the mindset you need to have. again, can't think in terms of aggro.
>>174603359Any deck that rapes their early game, but those decks autolose to dragon.So have fun
>>174602410>>but 2 lurching are enoughThat's my opinion cause lurching is basically tech card against dragon. Don't forget that you can't just attack any follower with them. Besides without wards on the field or soul convertions in hand this card becomes useless cause you can't activate last words. People tend to ignore it oftenly and evolving doesn't always help, generally you want to trade, not just evolve lurching and go face.>and yet you want him to drop lurching to 2Already replied why. With 1 pp followers you can still use convertions outside of lurching corpse and get good value. Attack with 1pp card, sacrifice it with soul conversion, get shadow and 2 cards, that is nice value. I just don't see a lot of synergy with soul convertions, 1pp followers help and make your early stage stronger. Somehow u think that only aggro can run 5-6 1pp followers, that's a mistake. The line between aggro and midrange shadow's thing atm. What makes it midrange? Just a few cards like death's breath, eachtar. Even some aggro shadow variants had 7pp followers in the early rob, it was okay. As long as you have cards to play and gain lots of shadows 1pp never hurts, it helps you be ready for 4th turn with your charged soulsquasher, 6 turn with death's breath and 7 with eachtar. Without 1pp you have less shadows and have to use shitty 2pp like spartoi instead of lyrial for smart trades or unica against mirrors.>that's because you're not aggro and midrange will never outaggro aggro no matter what.You don't have to rush like aggro, stalling and trading is enough until you get to play strong cards. Just be out of phantom hawl range and that's it. You sound like matchup vs aggro is completely out of control. It's pretty fucked if your opponent have 2 followers by turn 2 and you can only play lurching corpse and get rekt.Anyway just lots of useless greentext without decent arguments. By your logic you should drop 1pp followers cause "muh midrange", not allowed.
174603618now you replied to my 2 different postsget you shit together mr ledditthe start of our "discussion" was a fririn's deckwhich does not have late game besides 3 eachtars and 1 thane, which looks like a random additionThat deck has a lot of 2s and only 3 1s, which is also debatableso even Japs, which cocks you love so much basically put everything on skeles and their generators in MIDRANGE deck, but THIS particular version doesn't have fucking goblins (i saw previous ones, SOME of them have goblins)You would notice all this , if you weren't a pathetic sperg who "played aggro since RoB"now go back
>>174603359You can't let their commie skellies prosper.
>MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM>HE PLAYED CATACOMB PRINCE AND GOT 1 EXTRA SKELETON ON CURVE THAN HE WOULD NORMALLY >IT'S NOT MY FAULT I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING TO INTERACT WITH HIS BOARD FOR 3 WHOLE TURNS>THIS NEVER HAPPENED WITH ANCIENT ELF BEFORE>YURIAS STILL HASN'T BEEN NERF EITHERlmao stay cucked
>>174603983Acient Elf is literally one unit and removes everything else from the board, far easier to deal with than a literal infinite army of skeletons.
>>174595929You're not safe, not even in arena.
Holy fuck, those were 4 loaded packs. What blood deck uses belphegor but no dealers? Please post, I want to mess around with it. Also kinda happy about the second ginger since she is getting support in a couple months
I just met a haven player who kept playing Gobus and Feenas, what was he playing/thinking?
>animated lucifer from win 6 ranked
>>174603448Post dick, I'm curious now.
>>174602819Man you need to build board for turn 3 prince and you should expect some removals too. You can't play catacomb on empty board.>soul conversion can be used on anythingOnly if you have a stable field, otherwise you can't use them and lose board presence.>no, that's aggro.Let's count 5pp or more cardsx3 cerberusx3 death's breathx3 eachtarsThe end, 9 cards from 5 to 7pp. The same midrange as albertcraft.>>174603618>look at it like this, instead of running a few 1 drops, you run a bone chimera instead. that's kind of the mindset you need to have. again, can't think in terms of aggro.The funny part is you can run good number of 1pp followers, all your necessary bone chimeras and other cards that make your list midrange. Just imagine 2 midrange decks in a match where 1 deck doesn't have 1pp on tst turn, instead it have 1 more lurching corspe in deck. Well, great, you can use soul conversion combo to remove some skeleton, make yourself even more fucked in mirror. Ofc tech cards should be present but you can't run too many and make your deck weaker against everyone else, that was my original point. Not every have lots of big and fat bahamuts. While you compensate absence of low pp followers i'll make my board unkillable at turn 3 and won't let you gain board precense until maybe turn 6, gg if you don't have death's breath. Turn 3 in shadow mirror usually determines a lot.
>>174603045I play her, she wins games. Would run 2 if I could but I'm satisfied with what I've got.
>90 packs and still no eachtar emblemEnough is enough, now I'm just gonna spend my gold on T2 and grind for the flair.
>>174604395gets shat on by dragon though
>>174604607We live in a meta when Daria has to dump dstrike, how horrifying.
Play vampire, get $$$
>>174604543Is Sister Initiate actually useful in Storm?
>>174604782>Aggro>runs grimnirs instead of veightsbut why
>>174604715Daria is also T3 in this meta. Isn't that just wonderful?
>>174604498i'll give you reply because you are righti guess most of people here only for shitposting and waifufagging
>>174604897It's obvious, Grimnir goes in every deck. Considering it's used by a guy that's a 7k masters and that was 20k MP last month, I'm sure it has merit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6lGLEa9tQIcat is onlosing points as haven today
>Changes to card textGood job, cygames, we were really looking forward to this change.
dark jeanne is fucking retardedstorm haven will be tier 1 after shadow nerfs
>>174605263>No mention of Phoenix RoostFuck this gay earth.
>>174605013i've got all the cardsguess i'll give it a shot
>>174605106Thanks for letting us know, i like his streams.
>>174605312they're testing the waters. first phoenix roost, a card nobody cares about, then they'll start deleting other cards from the game by putting them under permanent maintenance.
>>174603916see what i wrote in >>174603618>With 1 pp followers you can still use convertions outside of lurching corpse and get good valueyou have to look from the other side as well, i.e. what you draw with conversion. the point it is to dig into your deck. and you want to dig for quality cards, not more 1pps. also you can use conversion on bone, lurching and the occasional catacomb skellies. that's 9 possible good targets. on the other hand, using a conversion on a con skellied goblin is just a tempo loss and nothing else.>Attack with 1pp card, sacrifice it with soul conversion, get shadow and 2 cards, that is nice value.it's not. it's just a tempo/field loss. you only use it on last word followers, unless you're really bricking.what you said just basically replaces the 2 cards with 2 new cards without any benefit or field presence while doing 1 (one) damage. also you might draw into even more 1pps with that conversion! see what i mean? it doesn't fit with the strategy.>You don't have to rush like aggro, stalling and trading is enough until you get to play strong cards.and with more 1pps you have less strong cards/draws. this is what i mean when i say you want to commit to one or the other.also with what are you stalling? answer: with your removal. not your 1pps. tell me what a T1 goblin will do going second vs aggro shadow? it won't save you.
>>174605435>first phoenix roost, a card nobody cares aboutTake that back right the fuck now
>>174605446Already am, don't you see the belphegor buddy?
>>174605446You can press skip at the end of your packs to get the summary screen anyway anon
>>174605484why would anyone want to play a 5pp: lose the game next turn
>>174605647Because it enables the spiciest memes
>>174604498>Not every have lots of big and fat bahamuts.anon, a soul lurching into conversion is beneficial NO MATTER WHAT the corpse removes. and again, you want to draw QUALITY cards with the conversion and not more 1pps.>Man you need to build board for turn 3 prince and you should expect some removals too. You can't play catacomb on empty board.>Only if you have a stable field, otherwise you can't use them and lose board presence.again, weaker opening doesn't mean nonexistent opening. yes, you are very likely not getting the T3 catacomb for 3 play, but how often yould you get that with midrange anyway?you can still get catacomb for 2, and you can play catacomb later too.>all your necessary bone chimeras and other cards that make your list midrange.no anon, that's not how it works. it's the overall strategy that makes your deck midrange.>Just imagine 2 midrange decks in a match where 1 deck doesn't have 1pp on tst turn, instead it have 1 more lurching corspe in deck. Well, great, you can use soul conversion combo to remove some skeleton, make yourself even more fucked in mirror.imagine the opposite. T5 drawing a goblin while the other draws a combo piece like conversion or urd or bone or whatever.
need a concede for dailies 43991
>>174604882Is popping birds a turn earlier while putting a 3/2 body on the board useful?
>>174603916stop arguing with him, he's retarded faggot from C0
>>174596310>no heart pupil
>>174604208>gingerI love this card, I wish it was already viable.It's gonna get be a finisher next expansion since it costs 9.
>>174605736thank you luna
>>174605759>he is physically incapable of grasping midrange shadow.i feel sorry for youi already mentioned my rank you crapshoot
>>174605743Well, how often do you draw it without having an amulet to reduce?
>>174605924Games end on turn 8And if they don't then there's a huge chance that both sides are able to completely nullify each other's plays by then.Ginger enables a huge powerplay on turn 9, which is essentially you going all in.There are too many ways to reverse the board state that late in the game, making going all in redundant.
meme in the sky is actually pretty good with the addition of luminous mage
>>174606086It's still a 3/2 body that can kill grimnir
>>174605476Catacomb, cerberus, orthrus still iteracts with your small units on the field. If your don't have bone chimera you're in trouble cause other followers can be easily removed and you don't have enough board presence for maximum value catacomb. You want 1pp followers because they can trade, not because you desperately need that 1 more damage.>also with what are you stalling? answer: with your removal. not your 1ppsIt depends, you also have reaper that can benefit from low cost followers. See? Lots of synergy here.Anyway it looks like a dead end of our discussion, we just have different opinions. Here's an interesting deck that won JCG Open Vol.23. although i would put third zombie party here and not sure about dark conjurer, i just prefer different 2 drops.
>>174601327Because what is broken now may not be broken next expansion, and it allows for far more "right now" control than nerfs and buffs. Let's just, say, limit Grimnir to 1. Now he's no longer a absolute choice. He is either a 2/3 ward on curve or you wait till turn 10 and use his enhance, both you would only get one of. It opens up other 3 drops and different board clear/face damage for turn 10. That helps the meta.It would also allow them to be more liberal with what they change. They won't have to give out free vials for any change they make because it's not changed, it's just banned or limited for a time, akin to how roost is currently unavailable.
>maintenance>a 9(NINE) hour maintenanceWe better get more story mode and SFV leaders soon, Cygames.
>>174606012those 1k points you farmed for 21 fucking days is the proof how much of a shitter you areAnd about that grasping, you are the only one doing it and not for knowledge or understanding for sureyou are grasping for cocks because that's what enormous faggots like you do most of the timeYou will never understand what we are trying to say to you, because you critical faults in your logical thinking, just like women dothat's why you are a faggot, sadly, i can not remove it and only gently ask - get the fuck out
i love this game man. 9 roach tutors and i draw 0. literally 0 at turn fucking 9. while mr dshift otked me at turn 8 even when i didnt play anything with 3 destroyers nice game man
>>174606247>goblinsanon, you are going to trigger the next level of autism in this faggots, stop
>>174606171Just make a follower that makes your board invulnerable for a turn and makes it not a fanfare, problem solved. But that would be fucking retarded so I hope Cygames won't do it.
>>174606171You gotta remember that ginger is in the one class that can cheat turns. So you can go all in and then cheat a turn and win, giving no chance for the opponent to retaliate.
>>174606281take out lily
Continue to work on the 20 private games from yesterday9/20ID: 89461I'll spam pass
>>174606513>>174606486But then ask yourself: Why not just run Destroyers?That's the fundamental problem with all these cool cards right now. DShift achieves OTK on turn 8 most often, with people getting turn 7 more and more often.They'd have to print something truly retarded that allows you to cheat out Ginger and still trigger her fanfare (Which means reducing her cost).Good news is that'd enable a different breed of DShift that's very very focused (Tutors grabbing 100% Dshift, very cost efficient cards spellboost like sorcery caches to get turn 5-6 Dshifts with Cheated Ginger)
What card has the 'mooom' sound again? I remember it from when I played a few months ago, but I haven't run into it since I started playing again and can't fucking find it in my collection.
>>174606747Style points are important and finishing with a full board of huge shit is way cooler than finishing with destroyers/bms
>>174606785>>174606864>>174606894Kill yourselves, dubcucks
CAN'T WAKE UP
>>174606661i play a retarded 100% tutor forest man
>>174606864>>174606894Thanks, somehow skipped it when looking through my cards.
>>174606894>>174606864in japanese she says "grandma"
>>174606893Can you stop hitting my face? Thanks.
Do you guys think that replacing the holy sentinels with Grails would improve this decks?
>>174606980That's top quality "localization" for you.
>>174607079put death sentence in
>>174606737thanks Luna!10/20ID: 89461
Mastema is a cute big girl
>>174606171that's why it doesn't get played right now and needs support
>>174607165Thanks old man!11/20ID: 68236
You're fucking dead, Dariashift kiddo.
>>174606980The large majority of characters (including the leaders) don't say anything close in dub to their lines in Japanese. Not to mention that the story is completely altered and dumbed down.This is why dubcucks are cucks.
>>174607479>lose to shift
>>174607605>rush is stormhmmmm
>>174596271>>174596363Now translate it please.
When is Haven get a powercreep amulet like:6PP - Countdown (3) - Summon a Holy Dragon and a Holyflame Tiger
>>174606260who are you talking about, i'm AA3and again, the faggot i initially argued against was AA2 and .just admit that you have no clue what this is even about and you're just jumping in because of random buzzwords like netdecking and [insert rank]>logical thinkinghilarious.
>>174607445Thanks Luna!12/20ID: 68236
>>174607986>turn 6 do nothing
>>174608139Enables eidolon of memes to meme harder.
>Login to do dailies>First two games are against shadow with perfect curve>Close game and decide to play another dayI don't even care if I have no rupies for the next expansion. Playing against shadow is just a chore so why should I subject myself to work instead of fun?
>>174607986Try 3pp 3 countdown, summon both the 2/1 and 3/4 birds for powercreep
>>174608139You can make it 7PP and make them both come out with Rush, there u go, now it does something right away
>>174608291I thought of something like that but feels like way too much, especially considering that now storm has DJeanne. Just think something like 6PP, summon 2 of the big storm birds.Then you could play that into DJeanne and fuck shit up real good
>trying to tech against dragon>queue into nothing but dragon>no matter what I try it doesn't work>don't have the vials to play dragon
>>174608564play shadow lmao
>>174600617I start playing Shadowverse not long ago.Why do people hate Eris?
>>174608656I am, unless I curve perfectly into multiple Catacombs I just get run over by 20 boardclears
>>174608719Pedophiles dislike her. There are a lot of them here for the squealing lolis.
>>174608719remember the 70 bazillions
>>174608719her hat is stupid
>>174608719Not my leader.
>>174608719Ugly whiny bitch with boring personality, Isabelle is almost as bad but at least she has her tits going for her.
>>174608719Never forget the 6 gorillion
Poor Nep, she just wants to be loved again.
>>174608719I want to marry her. Mostly Lunapedos hate her because she's her counter and there are a lot of pedos here
>Take Two matches>dragon>dragon>dragon>shadow>dragon>dragon>shadow>dragon>shadow>all of them always have a bunch of lightning blasts, ouroboros, bahamut or eachtar, five thanes and zombie partiesholy shit fuck me I just want to have a break from this shit and play against other crafts
>>174609112Why did people even stop running this over Aegis? Winning on turn 9 seems better than setting up to win on turn 9, even with the small risk of Dragon having a skillblast in hand right then.
>Wake up>No nerfs announced
>>174609194Gotta play with the new shiny toy. I just like seraph a lot myself.
>>174609282You have a list for the candle variant? I tried to make that work with grail, but it's way too slow.
>>174609161>try to escape from shadow and dragon so stop playing ranked and go to T2>it's even worse there and 99% of my games are themMake it stop.MAKE IT FUCKING STOP!
>>174609194Seraph requires you to run the combo piecesAegis lets you run more stall.
>>174608034i can not argue against no argumentsthe dude literally fucking obliterated every shitty "argument" you sperged out and now your damage control is some shitty reaction pic from fucking 3 years old and buzzwords (?)Lurk more shitter, jesus crist you are an embarrassment of this general
>>174609432Friendly reminder that Lightning Blast is silver.
Is that sword or spear she wield? Also why no helmet?
>>174609536Friendly reminder Luna makes mid Shaman look balanced.That little bitch.
>>174609536Friendly reminder that Zombie Party is bronze.
>>174609536So was Kawai.
Concede for me please.67756
Zombie party is such bullshit, the most clear cut example of powercreep, nobody can pretend undying resentment was some sort of fighter tier card that nobody used.
>>174609419Yeah, I've been doing fine with this.
>>174608034>AA3 get destroyed in argument by master>"m-muh buzzwords"
>>174609776At least it's not Soul Hunt
>>174609664Friendly reminder Prince Catacomb isn't a legendary.
>>174609776The best part is that both undying resentment and zombie party are top tier picks in t2 and both are bronze and pop up often
>>174609726Thank you for the help anon.
why don't decks run this card it's incredible
What's that luna? Spooky skeletons? I can't hear any.
>>174609956some dshift decks do
>>174609776I really dislike how this general likes to plug it's ears and claim everything is okay in it's never ending quest to suck Cygame's dick. No positive change can come from that.
>>174608719She had a non shit deck that one time in DE #neverforget
54953need a concede please
>>174610014Are you in some sort of bizarro universe? All this general does all day is cry and bitch about the game, all day every day every single expansion.
>Open twitch>Soulek is stream
tfw i lost all my progress climbing the ladder with otk roach at the final 10th hour of climbing because i am too tilted and tired to count lethal.
>>174608719Eris had two meta decks for one season and promptly dropped to t2 and now t4.However /svg/ is eternally butthurt because they are all shadow mains who think mid shadow is balanced so she's a target for shitposting here.
>>174610014Nobody here is sucking Cygames dick though?The majority of people are complaining and dissatisfied with the expansions and new cards, barring the occasional shadowniggers. I think you have /svg/ confused with /rshadowverse
>>174609824>>174609508where did that happen?how delusional can you get?
>>174610160Literally just yesterday the thread was arguing Thane wasn't a power creep because no one played Lich King.A skim of the last thread has some Anons defending Shadow as balanced.I can't even tell if this behavior is a defense mechanism against claims that SV is turning into HS or if it's just genuine retards.
>>174608719this >>174609963is why people hate erisalso themis and cuckdgel
No Hector will save you today lil' cunt.
>>174608719Haven players are notorious momposters
>>174609963met a fag like you yesterday, still came back and destroyed him with my fair midrange shadow deck
>>174610296I dropped by reddit a few days after the expansion hit and it was an endless circlejerk of crying about Dragon and Shadow. If the comments are to be believed then they also bitched endlessly about albert, daria, seraph, and aegis.If anything reddit complains more than us.
>>174610374/svg/ is filled with shadowniggers that are pretty happy with the current state of the game. You can even read some posts arguing that midshadow shouldn't be nerfed even though Daria and OTK Roach were inferior decks and got toned down. Making Shadow T0 was a fucking mistake.
>>174608719the class is literally made to bully a little girl
>adds hector and death's breath to aggro deck>T-this is not unga bunga guysWhy are shadowbabs so pathetic?
>>174610436do you have to post every of your games B1?
>>174610482I've won every single game vs shadow today that I went first and a few of the ones that I've gone second. Can't help to lose some, but feels great to give the top dog defeats.
>>174610518Maybe you should go back
>>174610565and adds zombie partyand adds soul squasherand adds thaneand removes phantom howland runs only half of the 1 drops
>>174610539>Shadow has 60% winrate against all decks except Dragon>Daria and Roach didn't even break 60%>Lunapedos claim she's balanced because "self reported stats" are liesI hate this place more and more by the day.
>>174610436>>174610607literally everyone here is master
>>174610046Why is there no reward for 1000 ranked wins with one craft?
Which blood deck is better for climbing, kys or aggro?
>>174610374Well they are kinda right, you can only powercreep cards that people actually use.An example: Imperial Dragoon was used by many dragoncraft decks as a finisher for being able to clear the board for bahamut or dealing the finishing blow, but now it has been made useless by Grimnir and pretty much no one but discard dragon runs it anymore. It has been powercreeped massively.On the other hand literally no one used Undead King ever. Still Cygames should have just buffed him instead of creating shiny new cards like the jews they are.>A skim of the last thread has some Anons defending Shadow as balanced.You were probably online when the shadownigger presence was majority. The responses you get are vastly different depending on what time of the day you are replying to this thread. One hour the discordfags are all blatantly in the open, another hour is reddit hour, while the next hour is chill, until the American hours come and ruin everything once again.
>>174608719>In DEOpressively strong, yet kept going about how they're actually balanced and honest (Hence the spawn of momposting).Fags kept spamming Seraph wins as if they're impressive (Like that one fag now)>In RoBTouted themselves as saviours of the game and 'chemo' from Daria despite playing a deck that's even worse to play against than Daria.They think they're 'chemo' to this day.>In ToGSeeing Aegis as some decks is even worse than seeing SeraphTraditional Dirtrune doesn't stand a chance anymore despite being the bully for Seraph in the past.It's not as much Eris, as the retarded hagfags that are associated with her.
>>174610618I was only there for 6 minutes to see if reddit is as infested with shadownigs as /svg/.So no.
>>174610374But Thane isn't a powercreep of Undead King tho? He's just a straight up better card, just because there's a smallest amount of resemblance doesn't mean it's a powercreep. An example of powercreep would be Fafnir and Wrath Drake, Undying Resentment/Soul Hunt and Zombie Party.
>>174610753idk, being AA1-3 seems like a good place to give some advice. The bracket is tryhard as fuck, meanwhile masters is literally a coin flip between meme deck and tryhard deck.
>>174610846You have to go back
>>174610790Er, didn't mean to quote.
>>174610846>going to reddit>ever
>>174610607Sorry man, didn't mean to salt the wounds of someone that got constantly destroyed by other haven players while playing the T0 deck of the expansion.
>>174610753>being this assblasted for getting called out that you make a compilation of it
>>174610828I haven't seen discord here in over a month.
>>174610886Masters are like boomers, they had it easy. AA1-AA3 is where the pros are contained
concede please 81562
>>174610889You first.>>174610979How did you get that screencap?
>>174610839>Opressively strongYou mean T1.5 at best?>even worse to play against than DariaYeah man I remember all these times Seraph had a full board on turn 4>Seeing Aegis as some decks is even worse than seeing SeraphMaybe losing on turn 11 is much worse than losing on turn 9, yes.I do feel bad for dirtrune but cmon.
>>174610886This is a clear sign you are not master.Master in the gutter points (like up to 3k) has some memes.However in the competitve brackets like 10k and up it's literally all metaslaves.
>>174611049>assblastedit's hilarious you moron
>>174611081Not really. The pros are in high masters, that's why you shouldn't take in consideration of the opinion of anyone that doesn't show you an at least 5k+ MP profile because even pros that don't play as much usually get a bare minimum of 5k every season to keep in touch with the meta
>>174611056You clearly weren't online deep night in the European timeline a few days ago. I forgot what day it was, but I just woke up, not being able to sleep I opened the thread and it was full of discord and reddit for hours, and no one was calling them out on their faggotry, no one.
>>174611298You do realize that 1k master and 20k master meet the same people in ranked, right?
>>174610839>oppresively strongNot even close to shadow's current winrate nor playrate.>Anything being worse than DariaRunefag detected.>Aegis not being free wins as long as you aren't retardedStop posting any time.
>>174611186Aegis wasn't what killed dirt and other control decks anyway, Dragon did with turn 6 bahamuts. That said, Aegis was bad design and they have to be extremely careful of buffing Haven in the future.
>>174611272>satancat is 30k and playing memedecks mostlyk
>>174611298You don't have to be a pro to have a strong understanding of something. Look at commentators, analysts, or coaches in any sport or competitive game.
>>174611380You ignored the most important part of my post. the number of points tells you if they're in touch of whats going on in masters. Anyone can tryhard and get to masters then do nothing but play experimental decks that don't go anywhere and give you bad advice while showing your their sub 1k profile to validate their points.
>>174611325How do you even tell someone is from discord? Are you just paranoid?>>174611380Not how it works. You are more likely matched similarly to your bracket.
>>174608719They were on par with D-shift being an unfun class in DE thanks to seraph and elana. In RoB, less people cared thanks to bahamut deleting Elana from relevancy but they were still uninteractive by stalling and healing for days while putting you on a timer.
>>174611186Board being full doesn't mean shit, you can still react and counter it, and if we go by this basis, even aggro blood had full boards by turn 4, were they op as well? The problem is that Seraph pretty much says fuck you if you didn't pack Odin into your deck and for not being able to kill (a deck full of heals, stall and control) before turn 9. It cannot be countered unless you specifically tech against it, unlike Daria flood, which is why I always preferred going against Rune instead of Haven.
>>174611483he's 7k actually
>>174611483thisanyone who says this meta is terrible hasn't played it long enough the only ones getting cucked are control playersbut that would have happened thanks to aegis anyway so it isn't dragons fault entirely
>>174611560>Are you just paranoid?do you really need to ask
>>174611483>One person is representative of several hundred peopleI know you aren,t in master so you should watch a railgun or soulek stream. It's all dragons and shadows in the upper points.
>>174611501>Look at commentators, analysts, or coaches in any sport or competitive game.Most of them are dogshit, yes
>>174609664>elven archery>3pp 1damage random>silver
>>174611449Aegis was meant to replace dshit as a means to disincentive t15 games (like rob dirt, yes), and I think he'd do the job decently.But dshit is kill anyway and Aegis has a fairly bad time in this meta.
>>174611186Elana Seraph was t1 late DE and I believe Storm was t1 early DEWhen Daria didn't get a good opening, you felt like you had a chance, play your cards right, stem the bleeding and you could pull off wins against it. Meanwhile Seraph was 'Do I have Odin? No, guess I lose then'. Yes I'll admit playing properly ad applying pressure bought you extra turns, but control decks don't get rolling till turn 6+.As for Aegis vs Seraph, you have to understand that people still ran Odins, because it was a versatile card and gave them a chance against Seraph. Aegis negates all of that, if you're running a slow deck get out.>>174611407Yes shadow is retarded right now, back then 56% was unthinkable.I'm not saying Aegis is better than Seraph, I'm saying that slow decks have a chance against Seraph, but die to Aegis.Same way DShift forces any control deck to go full aggro because they have an 8 turn clock, Aegis has a similar effect that can't be countered, even if it is worse than Seraph right now because nobody runs Odins because Dragon exists.
>>174611483>30kRetard or shitposter?
>>174611549What's the point in hoarding master points if there's no rewards?
>>174611698yeah what is this card even for?it will always be 2pp below curve regardless of how you combo italso swords to woodlands should hit things that cost 3pp like rights does
>>174611501I agree fully with your statement but my comment was more about a general filter to get actual good feedback on decks. You don't want to get bad advice, roll with it only to get stomped. I do fully believe that the are AA1-3 and low masters that can give you very good advice.>>174611483He's not even 10k quit lying bud, but he has showing strong understand of the game, so even if he was AA you would still take his opinion in consideration in crafts he shows expertise.
>>174611560I am very good at detecting outsiders in general, I can usually tell just by the way people post, and I'm not talking about reddit spacing here. In any case that night was really blatant, as people were unironically referring to each other by names and even linking to fucking facebook, and no one cared because the actual anons were either asleep or lurking in silence.Like you don't have to be paranoid to make the observation that none of us would link to facebook here unironically.
>>174611681>a railgun>soulekcan you post the link to their streams? would like to check it out.
>>174611501>Look at commentatorsYou had to remind me to the retards they got for the NGE commentary.They can't even count, neither could the players it seemed as well.
>>174611810It's not hoarding, it's just people naturally playing a considerable amount of master games and winning. When there's rewards you see way higher numbers than 10k going around.
>>174611851>I am very good at detecting outsiders in generallmao, I've been on 4chan since 2010 and have been called reddit multiple times by you morons. Let's not pretend you have a clue.
>>174610753>get called out by your pathetic understanding of shadowcraft>cry about ranks for hours on end as a diversion
Maybe all of you should be going back.
>>174611775>I believe Storm was t1 early DEit was, and it was still an amazing deck through the whole expansionremember when /svg/ kept crying about haven's "uninteractive amulets"? where's my low cost banish cygames!
>unless you're high master your opinion is invalid >procced to call rank 1 Master deck mediocre and unpolished shit
>>174612065>been on 4chan since 2007 and actual literal newshits dare to call me newfag or even talk in my direction
Just wake up.Can I know what are guys arguing about right now?
>>174611983I'm climbing just fine with this. I haven't felt like making the KYS deck.
>>174612225>cygames prints cheap neutral banish>shadow dies
>>174612147>"get called out">he still wrong>i still right
>>174612065People call each other shit all the time, and sometimes by calling out reddit, the actual reddit posters start calling out reddit on everyone out of anger. It is nothing unusual and it does not really matter.A a week ago you could have witnessed this phenomenon when one poster was so enraged that his post was called out for reddit spacing, that he started calling out everyone else for reddit spacing, even posts that weren't spaced at all as well as intentionally exaggerating his spaces in the form of shitposts, which derailed the thread for a while.
>>1746122422010 was 7 years ago
>>174612467you still ESL
>>174612225Storm haven works "fine" even now. It's just that amulets get punished by catacombs and AE setups. I get that you shouldn't be playing amulets in situations like that, but sometimes that's all you got in hand after mulligan and they went first. Their burst damage has only gotten better with D'arc. She's like Eachtar, if Eachtar was a balanced card that required manipulating the board ahead of time, so combine that with the fact you can't stop amulets from allowing you have bodies on board to buff without pp and storm haven actually got a really good clear with D'arc, she was pretty underrated.
>>174612226According to /svg/ Meme Frog is a viable deck capable of beating tier 1 dragon. That goes to show that you just can't trust them, this general is full of sub AA shitters.
>>174612534nice argument frendoright on topicplease show more how much of a stupid faggot you are
>>174612438Shadow dies, Haven dies, Maybe even sword dies. Only haven should be able to banish for cheap, otherwise this game will run into a even worse issue than "everything is removed", it will find a much grim future of: "everything is bland and no effect triggers, if it doesn't do something right away it's literally unplayable"Right now the "do nothing" is a meme, but spread cheap banish to everyone and it becomes reality.
>>174612629What argument you stupid foreign retardI wasn't part of this reply chain in any wayI just called you out on being ESL because you are ESLIn case you haven't noticed this is 4chan and not reddit, and anyone can reply to anyone if they feel like it in here
>>174612624Eachtar is OtoSage in a single card. With Rush. Absolutely bullshit.
>first game of the day>playing storm haven>draw literally no amulets for 5 turns>first amulet drawn is 1pp 2/1I fucking hate it when you start of on the wrong foot. just tilts me longer
>>174612626That's literally one guy though.
>>174612626>According to /svg/ Meme Frog is a viable deck capable of beating tier 1 dragon.That's true, I farmed dragons with it.Shadow is super hard to beat tho.
>>174612438They could print something like a slightly more expensive BLACKed that can target amulets under a certain cost. It shouldn't be too hard on shadow until they bring out cheap AOE banish spells
>>174612721>I just called you out on being ESL because you are ESLholy shit you are rightsuch a bright mind you haveplease continue to exist
>>174612843oh look, it's lyingfag again
>>174612940Please continue to be ESLOh wait you'll always be anyway
>>174612624>that required manipulating the board ahead of timethat's because of catacomb, weren't for him you couldn't just death's breath on 6 -> eachtar on 7 and expect to fill the rest of the board every single time, or you know, have skeletons that absolutely never go away so eachtar always has something to boost.printing that card was probably cygames' biggest mistake.
>>174613025you are the special one, aren't yais this supposed to offend me or something?This website is owned by japanese, faggot
>>174613025t.butthurt jealous murrican who only knows one language
>>174613016Okay, tell me how can Dragon remove Pepe before 10pp without techs.
>>174612624Jeanme is nothing like Eachtar considering he's Sage and Otomeme rolled into one.
>>174612940>>174612629>>174612467>this retard can't stop digging himself deeper into a hole.eternally buttdevastated. maybe if you play shadow for another 10 000 years you will finally understand how midrange works.
>>174613168But I can speak 3 languages fluentlyCan you?
>>174612252if Yurius needs nerfs
/svg/ is extra retarded today
>>174613302>master shadow player agreed with my point>he still didn't prove his>"h-ha, b-buttdevastated"cmon, at least try a bit
>>174613486That's it, that's the last fucking drop, I'm out of here for good. This worthless shit dank hole that is /svg/ isn't worth my fucking time anyway. I did not come here with the intention to shitpost or complain about the meta or whatsoever, but it seems people can't fucking deal with an opinion. But who the fuck am I kidding I have not ever seen someone on here who doesn't go full retard or spend all their time shitposting. Every fucking day in the half year that I have been here have has every fucking day been repost day, with the occasional memes and trends that effortlessly overthrow the god damn faggotry that has infested that cursed fucking place. You are no better than /dng/, you are no better than /hsg/ and I bet even /gwt/ laughs at you pieces of shit. Everyone is fucking denying that they're a bunch of circlejerkers, but I am seeing the same fucking pattern, uninterrupted, seamlessly every fucking week without the slightest bit of change. And if there is a god damned baitpost, how about you don't fucking feed the god damn troll, don't play their stupid fucking games. Holy fuck, I am so fucking sick of this fucking thread, all of you, kill your fucking selves. You are intellectually, emotionally and socially incapable to argue over anything, you are a fucking waste of time and space and if I could I would gas you all fucking Hitler style. FUCK YOU AND THIS RETARDED ABYSMAL HELLHOLE.
>grimnir announced>/svg/ thinks he is a JO only card and laughs >discussion about him ends thereI CAN'T TAKE IT YOU GUYS ARE LITERALLY KILLING ME
Daily remember, ToG is the worst shit ever.
>>174613381Fluency isn't even important on the internet, unlike grammar and punctuation, but to answer your question I speak 2 fluently, and 3 not fluently.
>>174613708>implyingnigger I remember when grimnir was announced, we all said he would be the new 3pp unica that would go into every deck
>>174613510you were shitting on a master shadow players deck in the first place. and there were masters anons among the ones disagreeing with you too. not the brightest bulb are you?>has to resort to clinging on another anons rank todefend his shitty points.
>>174613805Work is over so it already counts as the weekend
>>174613714Punctuation is probably the least-important thing in communication
>enemy wallet dragon>have him by the ropes whole game>he starts emoting thinking he's won once he starts heal spamming with sybil, lucier and fervor>tribunal his lucifer>emotes stop >he ouroboros, thinking he can continue healing>I play moonbunny and 3/4 storm bird>he can't suicide his fucking ouro to heal up from 3 hp>garuda him, ignoring his rahabfeels so fucking good
Which timeline has the best /svg/ threads?Post Steam release or RoB expansion?
Looking for a concede, please!65071
>>174614040start of RoB, people whining about yurius was hilarious
>>174614078In fairness it was only swordshitters who relied on bannermeme who complained.
>>174614062Thank you, best girl.
>>174613868>you were shitting on a master shadow players deck in the first placei was shitting on you, how dumb are you motherfucker, not the first time i am asking you this today. Seems like right now we are discovering NEW levels of your stupidity
Should I join the cancer and grind to masters with Luna before she gets nerfed?
>>174614362we don't need more bandwagonners, fuck off
>>174614195>it was only swordshittersAggro blood had a retarded winrate going first. Everyone was complaining about him and to make matters worse the retarded seamonkey (still) shitposted incessantly about how he was perfectly fine
>>174614413I'm currently memeing in AA0.I could just grind to Master and meme there instead.
>>174614362Do it but with Nep
>>174613923That is a pretty common and dumb way of thinking in all honesty. Punctuation can even change the meanings of sentences, and it can also make you look like an idiot if you aren't using it correctly, which even native speakers tend to fail at, because none of them care about it. It is a pretty important part of written communication, especially if you want people to take you seriously.
>>174614329please get a trip
>>174614567>wanting people to take you seriously on 4chan
>>174614329for what exactly again?because i was shitting on this >>174597164 retard. or what else was >>174612467 supposed to refer to? i couldn't tell from your shitty ESL wording.
>>174614362why not?if anyone questions your shadow wins just say you played her in DE and they will know you are a badass like me
>>174614329>His list is mediocre and unpolished.
>>174614610seems like you don't want to participate in any kind of topic discussion where you completely failedand too much of a pussy to admit how much you fucked upso just stop replying, if you have nothing to sayjoking, kys you stupid shitter
>>174614732No, I'm not him. I wasn't even participating in the discussion. Just get a trip so I can block you, you're butthurt and you sound annoying.
>>174614716>>174614691that was not me who posted who listbut i agree that this list is not optimized for the dragon/shadow meta and needs more 1 dropslike fririn uses in ANOTHER fucking versions of his own deck
we just need to get the tripfags and tranny posters in here and we can break the record for most autism in a single /svg/ thread! let's try our best everyone :)
How many 2-ofs in a deck is too many? I try to justify it with the thinking of "I want to see this card every game, but only one copy of it" but then I think I do that with too many cards? So at point do I draw the line.
>Dragon players always have Dragon Oracle at 2pp>always have Rahab at 4pp>always have Fervor at 5pp>always Salamander Breath for the turn afterHow does this greedy as fuck NEVER brick?
>>174614567i don't take you serious, sorry bud
>>174615035if it's 6 or more mana and you only want it once put 2if it's 5 or less mana and you only want it once put 3unless it's dod, that shit will brick your hand every match and you should only run 2
>>174615136Make neutral cards play on turn, not PP, then you go, i fixed dragon for you
themis should have been a neutral card and haven should have gotten a 5 mana polymorph the board just like rune
>spend my daily 100 rupies on a ToG pack>remember a chain of posts in /svg/ some days ago where an anon uncovered a single card (4th in the pack) and had a lego there>got a reply that said "that's what you get for using the hidden pack opening technique">try it out for funsies, open 4th card in pack>ROLAND>take a picture of it all excited that meme magic coincidence actually worked>open 2 more>BELPHEGOR>yfw the hidden pack opening technique is real
>>174614959>is not optimized for the dragon/shadowwhat do you think it is optimized for then? the aegis meta? jesus christ come on.i already posted several times the reason why a ton of 1pps are not needed in midrange. it's not strictily bad, but it is not in line with the strategy of THAT PARTICULAR DECK (pure midrange). telling him to drop lurchings and more one drops is bad advice because if he did that, there would be a lot of other changes he should be making along with that in order to make a high performing deck, like adding orthrus and whatnot. again, nobody seems to understand the difference with midrange and aggro.
>>174605074Holy shit hehe
>>174614959That list still had great WR from his reports and carried some anons to Masters. The Midshadow list that won this week's NGE was almost the same as it. You may not like the list but by no means it's mediocre and unpolished.
Stop deluding yourself, I just wasted 100 rupies to disprove your bullshit.
>>174615136I'm starting to get really tired of the healing they have. Ramp is supposed to have the downside of giving up tempo on board. Except it literally isn't the case when you just spam sybils, rahabs and to an extent Lucifer/Israfil. Worst part is that if you over commit to try to burst them down, you risk losing because Bahamut is a fucking card.
32631Gimme some love
>>174615565who are you arguing with?this>>174606247is considered midrangehere, let me do this for you>Here's an interesting deck that won JCG Open Vol.23do you need more proof?As i said before, fririn has also version with more 1 drops and i saw several japs playing goblins in midrange with breath and shit just re-read everything we wrote before, no point of posting same shit again over and over>>174615727>That list still had great WR from his reports and carried some anons to Mastersyeah, sureI heard some neph list had crazy winrate in AA3, it doesn't mean you have to play it, right? It's also doesn't mean it's good.
>>174615821I literally said it's just a funny coincidence m8It's a joke
What is the appeal of this game compared to other TCG?
This thread reeks off Redditors
>>174616016f2p friendly.and of course waifus and husbandos.
>>174616016>Hey, what're you looking so glum for! You're mine now. You should be delighted! Come on, smile! I want to see you smile! >Now listen up, 'cause this is serious... You're a good kid, and I want to give you a reward. Something special... Here, taste this wine. It's made with my own blood. Taste it, and we'll be bound together forever...
>>174616016cute girls, evolution, some more cute girls, cute fuccbois too if that's your thing
>>174615995>a deck showed result and worked for other people>nah it's shit mine is the only one that matterswew anon just wew
>>174613590>GingerThank god, her card text was likely the single most messy description this game ever seen.
>>174612252Man I'll kill youYou're barely is a threatBut I'll kill you either way
>>174616016Being a poorfag is ok. Also Anime. I'm personally a fan of Evolutions, it allows for good tempo swings and, when done right, add an extra layer of strategy into the game.
Why the fuck does unranked use your ranked rank? how are you supposed to do dailies of classes you don't have a good deck with if you're facing cunts playing storm ramp in unranked
>>174616265i didn't say it was betterpeople were saying, that adding 3 gobs to this deck makes it aggro instead of midrangewhich is retarded and stupidlet's stop talking about it, please
>>174613709I disliked RoB way fucking more. Fuck daria and elf going bonkers
>>174616363It only uses it to some extent, you can still get matched against anyone and everyone in unrankedI've played against masters when I was still B in unranked
>>174616116>the indentation her thigh highs makehngggh!
>>174615136>Dragon players always have Dragon Oracle at 2ppkek. wish you were right thot. Dragon
>>174616385I agree with your statement. It's just that ToG has been pretty disappointing.
I'll never understand how people can play haven. I guess you guys actually get enjoyment out of preventing any form of fun.I can understand why people play Dshift because it's funny and satisfying as fuck to beat a tier 1 deck with a beefed up 8/8 Lou but Haven is just literally wiping the board on every turn until your opponent either gives up or you drop AegisLiterally the only time I have to think when playing Haven is "Should I use Cudgel or Lion spirit?"Do you Haven players even enjoy playing this game?
>>174616512I can get behind this statement.>>174616482Calm down bud, not everyone is out to get you.
My wife Mastema is so cute
>>174616534>playing as the hag archetype in haven
Who the fuck uses that shit?
>>174616534The fuk is this? Why don't you try playing Haven by yourself first before assuming stupid shit?
>>174616385>RoB>1 craft with 53-54% winrate>3 crafts with 50-51% winrates>3 crafts with 46-49% winrates>ToG>1 craft at 56%>1 craft at 50-51% winrate>literally everyone else sub 50%>1 craft as low as 45%>1 craft as low as 41%>"I disliked RoB much more"I fucking WONDER who could be behind this post
>>174616534>turn 2 blackened>turn 3 blackened>turn 4 cudgel>luna concede
>>174616534>Do you Haven players even enjoy playing this game?I got like 900 ranked with the craft, it carried me to master (together with some csword).Control is the shit, man. (But pre-nerf daria was also stupidly fun.)
>>174616720Wasn't there someone here yesterday talking nonsense about how it's actually better than Cerb?
>>174616587Kill yourself, shadownigger
>>174616720Shadow is completely retarded now so you can include all types of stupid bullshit techs in your deck and still win easily.
>>174616534t.shadowbabI love banishing shadow's board. It arouses me.
>>174616720I lost to that deck once because i didn't expect it.
>>174616794Yep, said Cerb is useless going 2nd and this card autowins the mirror. At least he provided some reasoning for his shit
It's a good day.
>>174616747Player perception is a thing. I actually feel like I can fight back to a degree vs the current top dogs (less vs shadow, before you go there) but back in RoB, regardless of winrate it felt way fucking shittier to not be able to do shit, they either vomited strong minions one turn after another WHILE burning you or just one shot you if you didn't happen to draw you ward, very consistently at that.At least now I feel like I can do something.
Don't tell me you actually spent money on this game anons? I seriously hope you guys don't do this.
>>174616723I have over 50 wins in ranked with haven>inb4 A0>50 winsThe point is that I have a general idea of how the class plays and it's exactly what I just said.
>>1746170235 dollars that I got for free on my google play account to do the one time 600 crystal deal
>>174616953How exactly do you fight back against 3 skull beasts and a catacomb on turn 3
>>174617096Maybe it's just not for you fampai. It's the truest control class in the game and some people just like control.
>>174617105I've been playing haven mostly, so I forbidden ritual / cudgel / blackened / lion. It has a good enough winrate that I feel motivated to keep running it.
You faggots told me mid shadow beat everything, except this shit loses to dragon every time without exception.
I drafted 2 Eachter in arena. How disgusting. I almost picked 2 prince catacomb too but the zombie amulet was too tempting.
>>174616534>reddit spacing>blog post
>>174617105I typically don't let them have board or early game, so they never get a value out of skeleton man.
>>174617313Nice memesMaybe one day they'll leave this general
>>174617271Rock Paper Scissors, anon.Midrange Shadow beats Aggro ShadowAggro Shadow beats DragonDragon beats Midrange Shadow
>>174617271People will reply to you with some idiotic "BUT LOOK AT THESE STATISTICS" shit, but yes, you are right. A proper dragon deck completely annihilates Mid Shadow. He'll be at 10pp while having warded and healed up on his way while you are 6 and then come the lightning blasts and bahamuts, you cannot do anything about that - just hope he only draws shit
>>174616670Storm is ok with me. I was on a role with storm haven but then the update happened and in a few days my deck was garage tier and couldn't win anymore games
>>174617313>>174617369i'm sorry, i forgot>A0>thinks his opinion matters>likes dshiftshould i continue or you will go back?
>>174617458>A proper dragon deck with perfect curve completely annihilates Mid Shadow.fixed
Haven't played in a while, what deck won the North American tourney they hosted a while back?
>>174616016Anime tiddies and being the friendliest online ccg as far as free stuff goes.
>>174617560Judging by all the dragons I've faced in the last days they seem to have that "perfect curve" more often than not.
>>174617271It's a 48% matchup, like stats suggest. The more aggressive midrange lists have a good chance of beating it, but it's hard to recover when dragon hits 10pp. This is the reason why both are dominating.
>>174617542Please do continue with your forced, unfunny memes. I won't stop you.
>>174617271Try to tech your deck to be more aggro if Dragon's giving you trouble. Add more 1 drops so you curve you better early game, play Orthrus and Phantom Howl for more reach. Evolve your Reaper if he's at 6pp.
>2 decks are really strong this expansion and it is difficult to win with anything else so the game is really bad and the devs don't know what they are doingthe devs actually play and enjoy other competitive card games. you can complain about temporary imbalance and the meta being force to last only 5-10 minutes but overall the devs are much better than other games like hearthstoneyou'll never discover a seraph or other shit like thattake a look at the strongest decks in hearthstone right now. if you want high value cards you have to play rng shit like swashburglar or babbling bookstuff like that are cord x2 cards in almost every deckand on top of all that, they still have imbalanced decks in every expansion too
>>174617598I don't know why. But for some reason the thing that triggers me most on the pic is that Mario poster.
>>174617658did i offend you?Oh, i'm sorry, have an upvote!
>dragoncuck goes full greed and plays absolutely nothing but ramp until turn 5 when he realizes leaving 4 followers and a evolved albert on field is a bad idea>salamanders and plays his first two followers>one of those two draws a card>one of those two searches undoubtedly zell>his face when
>>174617716The current state of Hearthstone doesn't make Shadowverse any more or less funYou're probably a dragon player who screeches "B-BUT SHADOW" every time someone calls you out on some bullshit.
>>174617716That card in SV when? I want to see players discovering Aegis left and right, then the people in this thread will know true unbounded rng.
>>174617458Pretty much the shadow vs dragon matchup. It's a race to see if dragon can stall and ramp up to 10pp or shadow killing rowen first
can someone concede for me please86822thanks in advanced
>>174617598albertcraft and soul dealer bloodnot even joking he actually won with meme dealer however, after he won the guy in 2nd place complained and won on a technicality he was midshadow/ramp dragon
>>174618041I love cute girls as much as the next guy but we need some traps in this game for variety.
>>174617964Yes, but it's next to impossible to kill a dragon player before he reaches 10pp. Rahabs, Grimnirs, Sybil, fervor, ouroboros or lucifer, the heal is too good
>>174617880That's discard dragon, not storm. Don't bully him.
>>174617716Your post is worded so badly I honestly can't tell if you're trying to advocate playing Hearthstone or if you're calling it bad
>>174618041>she will never sit on you
>>174617458>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE IF THE SECOND BEST CLASS GETS PERFECT CURVE I LOSE MIDSHADOW IS UNDERPOWERED REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>174618150we have veight
>>174618212Serves you right, shadownigger
why is she cryingevolved version is happyi don't get it, bad translation?
I haven't played since Daria meta, what changed?
>>174618365thats obviously arena
>>174618365i only play storm haven and kys blood in ranked, anon
>>174618118Wow he should have been disqualified for being a mindless meta slave.
>>174618260Damn bud, you sure showed him.Nowhere did he mention that midshadow is underpowered in any way.And in no way does his post sound like a capslocking frogposter.First week on 4chan?
>"shadow is good" - /svg/
>>174617271You need necroass, lurching corpse, soul conversion and if possible thane and goblin princess. Or you could built it more likr aggro with more 1 drops and offensive drops and howl x3.
>>174618382she doesn't want to shed blood
>>174618331From the top of my head: Veight, Vist, Mist Shaman.Not nearly enough.>>174618427That's something I guess. Not cute enough.
>>174618506Either you bricked, built the deck wrong, or played wrong. It has greater than 50% winrate against every class in the game. This is a statistical fact.
>>174618475>So retarded he needs to rely on screencaps for comebacksYou dumb son of a bitch
>>174618506>so bad he can't win with the auto pilot craft
>>174618637except it isn't because those statistics are skewed and hardly represent reality given that they are based on voluntary info given by people who might not even correctly recognize what type of deck the enemy is, nor does it take into account properly built decks vs shit decks
>>174618475>Pretending to be another different poster to defend your own shitlmao'ing at your life
>>174618587>>174618331Shotas are not traps
>>174618159Dragon cant really stall out shadow without ramping. Once 7pp hits, you can almost expect eachtar to slap your face hard. Some dragons even tech the egg since reapers can seal salamander clears
i am putting lord of the memes in mid shadow you can't do shit about it
>>174618469That's last week anon, this week's NGE is won by a guy playing Dragon/Shadow, with the runner-up playing Dragon/Shadow, and coincidentally the 3rd and 4th place also play Dragon/Shadow.
>>174618885What is Eachtar going to do considering you already got lightning blasted and your board is empty?
>>174617096Unless you play Storm, Haven is a class of single wincon most of the time, you keep resources and make sure to run your opponent out of steam instead of throwing stuff in curve, shit ain't so easy-going. Aegis changed it a bit but it's still the control class.
>>174618935You can put any dumb tech you want in mid shadow and still win
>>174618874Veight is canonically a crossdresser.
>>174618727It wins against 75% of all listed decks or more. It doesn't matter if you can't recognize what deck you're beating if you still beat it.http://shadowlog.com/trend/2017/15/0/41
>>174618852wow u got me :(
>>174618935Kill yourself, shadownigger
This your satancat idol and his "meme decks"
>>174619025>Going through the trouble of editing a webm so you can keep pretendingJesus Christ you autistic virgin, now I just feel sorry for you
T H I C C
>>174619025>making a gif just to prove him wrong>being this autistic over a postJee anon
>>174618382She's afraid of the rotted zombie dickIn the evolved one she had already experienced it, so she's looking forward to it.
can i get a concede?81989
>>174618439>Implying shadow isn't just as cancerous in arenayou're fooling no one shadowdude.
>>174619175>editingThere's nothing to edit, its straight screen-to-gif capture software.>webmIt's a gif.>>174619190>being so technologically illiterate you somehow think "making a gif just to prove him wrong" is a smart thing to postt because you probably don't know that making a gif takes about as much time as time as the gif is long as its done in real timeJee anon
>>174618874True, but it's close enough for me.
>>174606247well damn. sorry, completely missed this post because there was another reply close by. both catacomb and reaper can synergize from the field without 1pps as well with bone/party/breath. same applies to orthrus. and it's not like he doesn't run low drops. he just doesn't run many 1 drops. think about it, it really is only hugely relevant for T1. you can still fill the field just fine after that.>If your don't have bone chimera you're in trouble cause other followers can be easily removedare they really? you were painting aggro shadow as the troublesome matchup. but will aggro shadow run much removal? as much as you do?removal isn't free, if they remove your spartoi seargant it isn't an issue if it's just one for one, because you will outgrind them if they try. again, you don't run AS many 1 drops, but after that you can spam the field just fine.>>174606247>>174615995and both of you lack the context.it all comes down to aggro vs midrange. look at >>174606247>lyrial>conjurer>the follower curvethat's more aggro than the other. which one is ultimately better depends on the meta surrounding it.you seem to imply that this more aggro build is strictly better for this meta but then why does firin work with a build like that?i've seen other build in the past weeks as well that don't run any 1pps as well, and they perform surprisingly well too.my point is: saying that more aggro is strictly better kind of dismisses the point of midrange entirely. saying it's "unpolished" os basically the same as saying "that deck isn't good because it's not this deck". they both work very differently. you aren't looking at the deck for its own plays and strategies.
>4months>yurius stillCygames really want to destroy the game?
>>174619589kill yourself, shadowniggerYurius is the hero we need against the skeleton menace
>>174619317>I-IT'S NOT A WEBM IT'S A GIF YOU TECHNOLOGICALLY ILLITERATE NEANDERTHAL!
I keep facing nothing but Aegishit in B0Too bad their shitcraft will never get out of B0
I'm trying to not be a salty fuck but it's literally impossible to win against Dragon or Shadow in T2 unless they brick hard as fuck. I'm so fucking tired of Zombie Party, Thanes, Sibyl and Ouroboros holy shit.
>>174619660>wow he knows what he's talking about what a nerd
why is she so excited
>>174617780I voted for Trump, and still support him, and even I think this faggot needs to be gassed.
>>174619751>Hey babe, look at all my knowledge on screen to webm software and my screencap collection I neurotically save in case I need to argue on the internet>Damn I'm a pussy destroyer
>just noticed the girl>just noticed dat assi thought that's some kind of bird
>>174619758Maybe she just really likes you. Like how a dog is super happy when their human comes home.
>ambush cursed general
>>174619954Yeah but see, here's the catchYou're the one who thinks that making gifs is a big deal, not me
>>174619980>Maybe she just really likes you.That just means she wants to marry you, to then kill you so she can become a widow again.
>>174595929Everything is "shadownigger" this, "false flagging" that, "post X" and so on.It's hard to believe this place reached a new low, eclipsing any sort of communication with rampant shitposting. At least couple weeks ago there were some conversations in between shitposts, but now any sort of conversation gets thrown into the FoTM insult chamber and shutdown, the few conversations that survive are nothing but a massive shitfling into more shitposting.Good on ya lads, some more progress towards the bottom.
STOP PLAYING MAY, WOTF, ORTHRUS, LURCHING, NECROASSASSIN, FIRECHAIN, TRIBUNAL, THEMIS, DRAGONEWT FIST, BAHAMUT, REVELATION
>>174620171you know what, I'm not sure if you are the same poster anymore.mind making another webm for me to prove it's still you?
>>174620294Everybody has personality flaws. You just have to accept that as a part of who she is.
Don't waste vials on shadow. Not only is it garbage and tier 3 at best, but it's probably gonna get nerfed because of retards complaining.
>>174620316Kill yourself, shadownigger
Ranked now has a limit of vials on deck building. The limit is 20,000 vialsWho dominates the meta now?
>>174620601Not Dragon that's for sure.
Right now SV is worse than HSGood job Cyshitgames
>>174620482I wonder who could be behind this post
>>174619189Gawain found his place.
>>174620689so why are you here?desu did you forget about discover?
>>174620668Face Dragon would actually thrive in such an environment.
>>174620601I'd love a game mode where they limit the decks that can be played to their total vial cost. Maybe make the vial number change every week or something.
>>174620325Is themis even an issue anymore?For some reason I find the card is too slow (still good) compared to other clears.
>>174619967But there always been a bird.
What should I play if I want to beat both Dragon and Shadow semi-decently?Aggro Blood?
I need a list of every card with visible panties in the art.
>>174620891Issue? There's no enough Themis anymore.
>>174620702Shadow is worse than dragon, haven, forest, sword and blood.If you think otherwise you're a C rank shitter.
>>174620891Unlike shit like Israfil, Baha, Grimnir and etc, Themis is a LOT weaker because it leaves no body on the board even if it's a reset button.
>>174620970There is nothing.
>want to play more pepecraft>can't really rank up with it, too hard
>>174621018>Shadow is worse than dragon, haven, forest, sword and blood.A shadownigger with a victim complex I see
>>174620601Daria/AlbertCraft/Blood/Aggro ShadowBasically back to RoB meta. All these deck relied on 3 copies of a single Legendary.Control decks are dead though.
>>174621059How about a deck that doesn't automatically lose to Dragon and Shadow but isn't good against them either?>>174621112Fuck off I don't play cancercraft
>>174621128I'm not even kidding. You'll see the tier lists in the upcoming weeks.Screenshot this post.
>>174620970Aggro blood is always a free win for shadow. Only way it stands a chance is getting a ton of damage off levin dukes.
>>174621128>retards still calling shadow tier 0you guys are the same ones saying that yurius is not bullshit?
>>174621128The shadowbbs victim complex dates far before ROB, it's ridiculous.
the fuck is happening
>>174621296Does Yurius decide games by himself? Does he win games? No? Then fuck off, lunanigger
>>174621296Awww, show me where the pink haired faggot touched you.
>>174621058>Cygames somehow fucked up and put the meta into a state where the standard 6 mana board reset doesn't properly reset anymoreI really want them to just buff Grail now. The 2 damage is a joke.
>>174621182>How about a deck that doesn't automatically lose to Dragon and Shadow but isn't good against them either?I don't think that exists unless you just play dragon or shadow. Like shadow right now is way ahead of every other deck, dragon is behind that but is still way ahead of every other deck.
>>174621450Yurius is shit now anyway>Play Yurius>Zombie Party'd ALWAYS
>>174621568He is excellent at making shadowniggers butthurt when he is not removed though.
>>174621561Well shitSee you after the nerfs anons
Who here bullying shadowniggers?He conceded on the spot after I used lion to wipe his board.
>playing seraph haven against dragon>turn 10>be afraid they'll lightning blast my seraph>instead they play bahamut>sends my seraph to the next stage (the one where i would win next turn)>immediately concedes
If I could kill every dragon player in the world, I would
Giant slayers yes or no?
>>174622363helps if you're too cheap for tsubaki
>>174620970If there was an answer to that we wouldn't have the meta we currently do.
>won 149 ranked pointsthe fuck is this shit cygames
>>174622363Run 3 tsubaki
>>174620601Any good deck that can run on 3 leggos or less.
>>174622221Just aggro bro :^)
>>174622584Playing against someone in a higher bracket than you earns you 120-150 points instead of the standard 100
>>174622579Yes we would. A deck that is only okay at best against the top cancercrafts will still be shit, and the cancercrafts will still dominate.
>>174622502>>174622660i have 3 tsubuaks but she is just bahamuted or ligh blasted
>>174622660>3 tsubakisBrick cityAlso enjoy autolose to Shadow
>>174622775Baiting aoe is good though, unless you run a deck that can't replace the board somehow.
>>174621773Good opportunity to post this https://my.mixtape.moe/siyfol.mp4Some shadowcuck getting heavenly'd.
>>174622716yeah but I've never seen a broken number like that except on exp, maybe I'm just lucky
>>174622775So? She at least killed a 5 atk follower .>>174622917Wrong. Kills eachtar, evoed Cerberus, buffed reapers, other followers buffed by orthrus/mimi
>>174623027i'm trying new things courageous knight is being a great replace for floral since i don't need evo points to have followers in field to use luminous mage.
>>174623103My nigga you will have a single chance to kill either of those because games vs aggro shadow end by turn 6
What's the real tier 1 deck now that we established that Shadow is Tier 2?Dragon is up there but gets bodied by Forest and Blood.
do i win
>>174623339>we established that Shadow is Tier 2
>>174623215>caring about Aggro Shadow when Midrange is the better deck and the deck everyone is playing
>>174623339>establishedI don't think so, Shadow cuck.
>>174623474Come on now, shadow is overrated but it's not lower than Tier 2.
>>174623339Kill yourself, shadownigger
>>174623339>bodied by bloodMaybe it's because i'm still A3, but blood is an almost guaranted win if I'm running my incomplete storm/ramp dragon.
>>174623339Kill yourself, shadownigger.
>>174623540Overrated because people beated your shit out with a lot of hard work.
>shadow>dragon>tier1do you guys believe in fakenews w
Shadow is good.
I don't know who's baiting who anymore. This thread went places.
>>174623465>2/2 that needs the whole board to be goodRune is such a meme craft now holy shit.
>Try to make a Rune deck with magical library to pull C. Curse at least once for sure.>Decide that maybe I shouldn't gimp the deck with cards that are only useful with dirtrunes and I shouldn't run dirtrune cards that only see use mainly because they're dirtrunes>Get thisI guess I should've expected this. I did just basically say no to spells, amulets and spellboostable followers.
>>174623465They should really make the evolution summon an evolved version. Though, rune is in the dumpster and at least I'm happy about that.
>>174624231Please don't bully dirtrune.
Should draggo keep sibyl in starting hand