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Trash scanning and gutted audio settings edition.

>What's EVE Online?
A dead game

>Can I play the full game without paying for it?
Yes. Eve is F2P, with severe restrictions, and you can earn enough in-game money to get a subscription ("PLEX").

>I want to play EVE, what should I do?
Get 250,000 free Skillpoints by using a referral link (chaining them with friends works best)
If you have no friends you can easily create two accounts and refer yourself.
https://secure.eveonline.com/recruit/

If you buy a subscription on the referred account, then the account used to create the referral link will receive in-game money. Therefore some people will ask you to click their referral links, with the promise of monetary returns. There is no guarantee that you will actually get your share, if you click other people's referral links.

>Now what?
Do the Tutorial then the Career Agent missions; they give you ISK, ships, skillbooks and teach you basics. Talk to players and consider finding a corp. Corporations are a great way to connect with people and learn the game properly. The game is only as boring as you are.

For career suggestions, see this graphic:
https://eve-guides.fr/images/wtd.jpg (embed)

>Read the /eog/ pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/cqJUuVT9 (embed)

>Game information
Eve University UniWiki: https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page

>Maps and regions
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/
http://www.ellatha.com/eve/wormholelist.asp

>PvP information
https://zkillboard.com/
https://evewho.com/

>Fitting, structure, and skill planning tools
https://github.com/pyfa-org/Pyfa
https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Third-party_tools

>Updates
https://updates.eveonline.com/

>Markets
https://eve-central.com/
https://eve-marketdata.com/
http://evepraisal.com/

FOZZIE MAKES A BUNCH OF STUPID POINTLESS CHANGES (don't ever remove this from the OP because it is always true.)

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>it's not worth sp farming for profit anymore
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>>177029931
All good things come to an end.
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>>177029931
But injectors are almost 700m
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>play some games on a WH to Delve
>goons bring carriers to stop out little t1 fit frig/dessie gang
>trade 1 or 2 1.5m ships for a svipul in their bubble camp
>couple of them chase through again
>domi almost dies so they jump an archon through
>WH collapses behind it
>call m80s and kill the archon
kek
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>>177030984
Plex is more expensive and the profit margins were not that high before
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>>177030984
price of extractors has gone up more than injectors
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>>177031065
I don't get why people feel the need to do this to t1 small gangs.
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>>177031250
Micropenis I guess. It would be more effective to just bring small ships of their own for a fight if they actually want us gone
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>>177031321
Ikr and they would actually have fun. But they must hate having good isk efficiency.
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>>177030984
>injectors are almost 700m
WHY
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>>177031065
post killmail
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>>177031321
>pls feed us kills lol
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>>177032426
>let's fight them in blingy ships guys. When we lose two of them to kill 8 t1 frigs we will claim victory even though each ship we lost cost more then their whole gang.
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>muh cost
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>>177034697
Not an argument
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>I won because a third party website told me so
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>le "we lost 30bil but can make it back in 1 hour" meme
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>>177034953
>I fly blingy trash and have sub 50% efficiency and lose to pilots with 1/10 my sp.
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>le efficiency
Must suck being stuck in an alliance with kb quotas
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>>177035262
Must suck to suck
>implying I am in an alliance
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>>177029931
>~160m per character
yeah shit crashed hard. Between the start-up costs it'll take over a year before you start breaking even if you have some cooked alphas, or 2 years if you start a fresh omega character to pay off the plex it uses just to get it to 5.5mil sp.
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>take non habit forming sleeping pills everyday because I can't stop taking them now
>scan down sites with a destroyer and save non combat sites for later pick up
>get too tired to do it
>stay in bed with eyes open for 5 hours thinking about those sites
>decide to hope back on
>they gon

fug
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Miss me yet?
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>>177037116
When can we start kicking Goons out of Delve?
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>>177035475
>>177031178
>>177031104
>>177029931

Just as planned
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>>177037116
>le spy man
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>still no stupid pointless rlml changes to make them shit vs kiters but still annihilate all brawlers
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>>177035475
Yeah, you actually need to put those characters to use and then not mind them losing their SP at the end of the month. Only thing I can think of to do with a bunch of low-APM omegas is mining.
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>rlml
>brawl
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>>177037328
You can't now.
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>Blood Raider Sotiyo is a failure
What's next?
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>>177040272
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Can I train my 3 PI characters to passively buy plex each month?
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>>177040790
Almost
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R8
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>ANY YEAR PAST 2012
>PLAYING EVE

KEKS
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>>177040272
Elaborate.
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A player should expect everyone is a potential gank, awox, or spy waiting to happen. To preempt this, it's taken as axiomatic that a player should not fly what isnt affordable. On this note, the player should be keeping an autistic tally of isk per hour ratios on all income. Kill mails and battles are regularly measured in value destroyed and isk efficiency. And above all, 'eve is real'. There's a subtle reinforcing loop in this game's culture that, taken to an extreme, incentives risk aversion.

Eve isn't dying, so much as fossilizing.
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>>177042526
wtf is this nerd shit lmoa
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>>177040790

A fucking 1 day alpha can buy plex.
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>>177041376

>no grapple

It's shit.
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>>177041631

I log in daily to refresh my orders and make new scam contracts, then just wait at undock/gate for some shit-for-brains to come. I've still got over 40 tornados left in my hangar and another hundred or so scattered around. Sometimes I question myself, if this is worth it.
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>>177044150
>impgnyi
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So I wanna like this game but its so boring to start. Like im ussaly a patient guy who likes to play autistic game like uncharted waters but something about EVEs early game is mindnumbing as fuck. Do I really just have to get through it and about how long should it take.
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>hisec
https://zkillboard.com/kill/62331790/
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I'm tempted to have a battle royale type thing with noobships, everyone has to carry 1 newplex and winner takes all.
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>>177048567
Gotta make sure your Hulk's mining lasers can track the rocks.
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>>177048425
Eve is boring.

The only good thing about EvE is the guys you play with (if you happen to find a cool bunch) and the PvP excitement you can experience, before you get jaded and dont really get that adrenaline shot anymore.
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>>177028034
>tfw check graph after some time I left
>Auto quit mode
>Start the game, do your career agent missions, grind combat missions solo, quit the game out of boredom
>tfw people here and in discord suggest me to do this
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>>177050824
suggested me to do all career agent missions, combat missions*
>tfw people here and in discord suggest me to do it, and I thought it's all the game it has
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>>177050654
My favorite time in uncharted waters online which is EVE in the age of exploration was when on a whim I assembled a party of like 6 guys to sail to india and back with me as the muscle and translator with another guy being the trader and what not. It lasted 3 hours of exitment and fun and by the time we were back in England 2 players had been sunk by player pirates and we all walked away like 8 million gold richer and when we started non of us even had a 1million in assets. Ide like to do something like that again in EVE but for some reason the whole tutorial and beginner missions are mind numbingly boring.
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>>177048425
I think it's impossible to start playing eve solo. Though I did so 5 years ago, but people this days are getting bored too easily. Try to find a newb corp, probably it will help.
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>>177050923
I tried starting the game with my best friend. Sadly hes been using the same mediocre laptop for close to 6 years now. Im at the point were im gonna build him a fuckin computer for his birthday.
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>>177050903
Yeah so just so you can understand my perspective, I live in high class WH, which is probably the most active play style you can do in this game. The amount of busywork I have to do, from scanning the chain, rolling like a madman to farming C4 and C5 sites so that I have money for PvP.... Well lets say the prep is not that fun.

But when I start hunting and I find someone in space to kill, its glorious. So dont bother with fucking PvE unless you have to and start killing other players as soon as possible.

Its really the only truly exciting activity in EvE.

I guess you can have fun with the market as well, if you are into that sort of thing. Some people even enjoy industry, which is beyond my comprehension. Just avoid PvE like the plague.
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I'm out of Horde for a week. Is there any place with good ratting that I can app?
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>>177035475
>>177030193
>>177030984
>>177029931
That's because of the ghost training bug CCP refuses to fix or even acknowledge.

Most large SP farms haven't used PLEX for the last 6-8 months or so.

So while you're scraping by making 100-200mil/month the guy with 300 alts is raking in 700-800mil per month and alt.

The already replaced meme is real. If you're spending time or real money on making Isk you're a sucker.

Get out while you can, EVE is doomed and the crash is coming soon. 500 PLEX will be 2b+ once the large farms cash out and the NCPLHK oldfags running them will have individual warchests that would make Goons envious.

If you thought Lenny's handouts were bad for the game you haven't seen anything yet.

Holding space won't matter, PVP won't matter. TQ will be just like Sisi. Whatever assets you managed to collect will be meaningless.
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>>177051969
incursions
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Anyone have a recruitment code? I'm thinking about trying this out.
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>>177054134
>inb4 ISK gets totally devalued, so people abandon it and switch to PLEX instead
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>>177054842
I don't have T2 shield module training for them.
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>>177054856
http://secure.eveonline.com/signup/?invc=d81bcfcf-8e09-4e55-b9ec-1ea99fd7aa98&action=buddy
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>>177054856
Give us email. This guy won't give you anything.
https://secure.eveonline.com/signup/?invc=e10a2338-948f-4a12-a8e3-a3ae78cb68c2&action=buddy
Though you can use this link and i'll give you 250 plex if you subcribe.
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>>177055042
Thanks, anon.
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>>177055182
Fuck
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>>177054134
What about 1 PLEX, 3 characters?
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>>177055432
Explain.
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Does it matter what race I choose?
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>>177055867
you'd better choose gallente because on alpha you are allowed to use starting race ships only and gallente droneboats are great. then if you'll become omega all restrictions will be removed.
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>>177055867
If you're paying/plexing(Omega), no. Otherwise(Alpha), yes.

Alpha Amarr are shit, Alpha Gallente are great at PVE, Alpha Caldari are great at PVP, Alpha Minmatar have the greatest degree of flexibility.
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>Alpha Minmatar have the greatest degree of flexibility
lolno. Alpha minnie has trasher and thats it.
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>non-meme ships do not exist
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just take gallente, they can pvp too.
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>>177056126
>drone boats
>alpha clones
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>lasers
>damage
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>>177054989
Yeah, what else are you going to do with your SP farming trillions? You'll dump it all into PLEX. And there are only so many whales that are going to sell PLEX to satiate the demand.
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>le ebil spook rich people
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Man peoples bios can be hilarious.
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>>177063447
don't give them attention
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>>177063447
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>>177065863
>no wannabes/noobs or alt
but how am i supposed to become good then?..
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>dual 1000mm Railgun
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>>177066559
>mfw it does less dps than a 250mm railgun
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>>177066814
lolno
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synthetic hull conversion
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AT ships.

Virtuoso:
Gallente Frigate Bonus per level:
10% bonus to Small Hybrid Turret falloff
20% bonus to Torpedo max velocity
Minmatar Frigate Bonus per level:
10% bonus to Stasis Webifier and Stasis Webifier Bomb effectiveness
10% bonus to Torpedo explosion velocity and flight time
Covert Ops Bonus per level:
7.5% bonus to Armor Repairer amount
10% bonus to Small Hybrid Turret damage
5% bonus to thermal and explosive Bomb damage
15% bonus to thermal and explosive Torpedo damage

Role Bonus:
25% reduction in booster side effect potency
300% bonus to Small Hybrid Turret damage
33% bonus to Torpedo launcher rate of fire
100% reduction in Cloaking Devices CPU requirement
100% reduction in Bomb Launcher powergrid and cpu requirements
99.8% reduction in Torpedo Launcher powergrid requirement
90% reduction in Torpedo Launcher cpu requirement
No targeting delay after Cloaking Device deactivation
Can fit Covert Ops Cloaking Device, Covert Cynosural Field Generator and Bomb Launcher
Cloak reactivation delay reduced to 15 seconds

Slot layout: 5H, 3M, 4L; 1 turret, 2 launchers
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 0 / 0
Cargo Hold: 300m3
Booster Bay: 50m3
Victor:

Gallente Cruiser Bonus per level:
10% bonus to Medium Hybrid Turret falloff
Minmatar Cruiser Bonus per level:
10% bonus to Stasis Webifier effectiveness
Recon Ships Bonus per level:
7.5% bonus to Armor Repairer amount
10% bonus to Medium Hybrid Turret damage
20% bonus to Stasis Webifier optimal range

Role Bonus:
30% reduction in booster side effect potency
100% bonus to Medium Hybrid Turret damage
100% reduction in Cloaking Devices CPU requirement
Can fit Covert Ops Cloaking Device and Covert Cynosural Field Generator
Cloak reactivation delay reduced to 5 seconds
80% reduction in Cynosural Field Generator liquid ozone consumption
50% reduction in Cynosural Field Generator duration

Slot layout: 5H, 5M, 5L; 3 turrets, 2 launchers
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 50 / 75
Cargo Hold: 450m3
Booster Bay: 100m3
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>>177037116
You can stay dead and irrelevant for all anyone cares for all your code ass kissing and bankrolling.
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>>177068903
>covops
>kiteshit

every fucking time
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>Booster Bay

what did he mean by this
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>>177054134
I should have let my alt expire yesterday so I could test this shit out
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>it has webs so it is a kiter
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>>177068903
How many effective turrets is that on the bomber? 6? 1 x 1.5 (+50% from CovOps Skill) x 4 (+300% role)
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stronger tackle almost always means kiting

source: play the fucking game
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wow daredevil so kiter :^D xD
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Cruor kiting
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Ah so your world is limited to meme plexes in fw.
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Incursus brawling
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>tfw 4chan was down all morning and couldnt post dog
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>>177076187
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>>177074394
>buy fed web
>fit rails
>it's like trying to catch a slicer that 90% webs you at 18km
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>6 mil for a small armor rep
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>>177079001
>bpc copies for sale but no bpo

what the fuck. Were saar bpos an event item or something and they don't actually drop?
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>>177079441
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why pick an omen over a maller? I don't get it
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>>177081157
Looks less like bait
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>>177081157
it has better cap it goes faster it has more dronebay. omen has better sig too, that stat might become relevant someday
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>>177081327
>drone bay

o shit it I missed this but the other things seem like memes since cap boosters exist and lel sig tanking
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Kys maqiri ur scum, may as well get on a truck to Mexico where you might be worth something In a 3rd world country lol
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>>177081645
0w0
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>I sit around bumping a dead thread though out the night and continuously having conversations with myself in it to try and trick people into joining my internet clan that plays a game 5 years past my prime. I also support trump to be edgy because there's not much going on for me despite Hillary would have given be greater benefits. This is my life

Join oruze to become just like me
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>>177081520
yes, the game is not well balanced. a lot of dumb shit trivialises attributes that were supposed to be important
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>been looking for a fight for 30 minutes
>all i find are stabbed plex farmers
what the fuck is this
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>>177086715
lowsec
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>>177086715
>Its now been an hour
Ded gaem
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>>177086715
the trick is ignoring the farmers and going after the people that want to fight
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>>177086715
>looking for a fight in lowsec
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>>177088678
>>177088730
>Finally found a fight
>it was a newbro rifter that warped in and didnt even attack me
i guess il go play something with an active playerbase
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finding fights is a skill
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>>177089018
look for ratting areas in nullbabby SOV and see how many ratters and standing fleet choobs you can take down before you get blobbed horribly
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You should get an agro timer when shooting rats so ratters can't just immediately dock up when someone gets closer than 2 jumps from their pocket
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>>177089350
They could just tether anyway.
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>>177089761
You can't tether with an agro timer
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Why did CCP think Fozziesov was a good idea?
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>>177089350
Maybe you should learn how to bait and how to split gangs instead.
And if you can't even farm nullbabbies or if it takes you longer than 15 minutes to find a winnable fight in FW space you're just bad.
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>>177090058
>baiting ratters
>split gangs
>rattrers
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>>177089898
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>>177089898
you could just post what you don't like about it instead of being a fag
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>>177089018
goodbye, don't come back
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>>177089350
Most ratters are semi afk anyway. Have a plan going in. Learn where their scouts are and make best speed for their pocket and send interceptors ahead to grab people. Its really not hard. You won't get someone every time but you should grab a miner or ratter most of the time.
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>>177090316
No this is fucking false

No one spreads out for this shit, they put one hyper tanky ship on each node they can and try to support them as best they can with one big fight

Even then if you don't have a fax on field all the defenders have to do is jam you and they win which is what happens 9/10 times. They toss 100 griffins at you, jam you once then you're forced to repeat a long ass warm up cycle. Its fucking cancer
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>ecm
>not broken
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>>177090085
>annoy ratters
>they form to make you go away
>kill what's coming after you
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>>177091183
It's actually not that broken, it's just a fucking pain to deal with.
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>ecm
>not that broken
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>>177091223
>>they form to make you go away
This doesn't happen and if it does they ALWAYS for 2:!
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>>177091237
its broken as shit for defenders to plink you from 70km with dinky 2m griffins, break your jam and stop you from entosising. Theres no skill or gameplay in that. No defender EVER forms to defend their sov, they just throw dinky fucking frigs at it
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>>177091237
Its the only EWAR to rely exclusively on RNG and the effects are devastating if just one hits.

How about that leviathan with 1000+ sensor strength getting jammed by ec-300's with 1 jam strength against 80% resistance to EWAR. So fucking glad Triage and Siege are immune to that dogshit
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>I am bad at probability, it's possible for this unlikely thing to happen this is ridiculous

there is nothing wrong with random, there is something wrong with the effect of being jammed. being unable to lock is fuck and breaks the game

capital ewar resistance is cancer btw
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Would ECM would be improved if each module reduced the number of maximum targets the victim could lock at once by 1-2?
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>>177091987
>I'm bad at probability

80% resistance means the ec-300 has a jam strength of just 0.2

0.2/1000 = the chance to jam aka 0.0002% chance to jam.

>theres nothing wrong with random
except dinky fucking EC-300's jamming a fucking titan for 30 seconds being unable to target anything. No other ewar has that kind of lasting effect even on normal ships, sensor damps, tracking disruptors, etc don't have that kind of RNG or retardation.

You're fucking retarded.

>capital ewar resistance is cancer
fuck off loser, stop talking out your ass, you haven't flown shit.
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Supers were better when they were flat out immune to ewar
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>>177092270
>except dinky fucking EC-300's jamming a fucking titan for 30 seconds being unable to target anything

yes, the jam effect is broken. I already said that retard

>fuck off loser, stop talking out your ass, you haven't flown shit

kill yourself retard, the current implementation of ewar resistance makes non-ecm ewar useless vs these ships because of stacking
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>>177092487
>yes, the jam effect is broken. I already said that retard
Oh then ECM is broken, because before you were being fucking retarded and saying it wasn't that it was the effect even though those are fucking synonymous.

>kys
nice comeback faggot, call me when you know a thing or two about capital ships at all.

>non-ecm ewar useless
good, theres no reason why a dinky keres should be able to significantly disable a megalith such as a titan.
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>mfw someone had 2 points left over and 1 pilot for the alliance tournament so they put him in an ibis with jammers and jammed the enemy logi 6 times
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who won the anime war?
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>>177092576
>even though those are fucking synonymous

no, they aren't. having a % chance of a thing happening isn't inherently bad. being unable to lock for 20 seconds is shit and should be removed. they could substitute it with something else - they are not synonymous, please die

>call me when you know a thing or two about capital ships at all

I know more than you about everything

>good, theres no reason why a dinky keres should be able to significantly disable a megalith such as a titan

there's no reason to use ewar if all it does is reduce a ship's scan res by 20% when completely stacked out from a bonused ship. they completely failed to make it useful
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>>177092576
I can send you some books so you can improve your reading comprehension, if you want.
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>>177092849
>no, they aren't.
Oh man what the fuck could someone be talking about when they say "ECM is cancer" The effect of the ECM or the module itself? Its always been the effect they've complained about you stupid fuck.

>its not inherently bad
>its broken
you're fucking retarded, contradicting yourself in your own dumb rhetoric.

>I know more about it!
yea right, EWAR resistance should go away and give capitals flat immunity again.

>theres no reason to use ewar at all
oh man maybe on the respective ships they were designed to affect?

>they failed to make it useful
a keres should not be a useful tool against an avatar
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so how do I make money with my gnosis and access to corps wormhole with astralhouse

I'm just an alpha and I can only afford like one other gnosis if I lose this one right now. whats the plan and whats the fit.
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>>177093132
too obvious
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>>177093252
wat
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>>177093012
>Its always been the effect they've complained about you stupid fuck

everyone including you spergs out about muh arr enn gee wow I was jammed after 30 attempts but I have high scan res what the fuck ccp

>contradicting yourself in your own dumb rhetoric

just read the sentence again retard

>give capitals flat immunity again

one of the goals of the capital changes was to make capital pvp not retarded. they did not succeed, but that doesn't mean it should go back to being completely braindead and immune to everything but itself

>a keres should not be a useful tool against an avatar

why?
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It sure is fun when you have four Dire Pithi Saboteurs and Dire Pithi Despoilers perma-jamming you.
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>>177093132
ask your corp. if they can't tell how to make Isk there find a better corp.
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>>177093337
>everyone including you spergs out about muh arr enn gee wow I was jammed after 30 attempts but I have high scan res what the fuck ccp
lol fucking cry about it shitter, take your maulus and shove it up your ass.

>just read the sentence again retard

>its not broken its just the effect!
you're retarded

>one of the goals of the capital changes was to make capital pvp not retarded. they did not succeed, but that doesn't mean it should go back to being completely braindead and immune to everything but itself
Good thing fucking mauluses were NEVER apart of that ever.

They never were relevant and still shouldn't be.

They should be immune, you can't name one reason why a dinky frig should have ANY influence over a megalith like a titan. They already have 60 warp core strength but I'm sure you think a velator with a scram should stop a titan dead in its tracks because you're some kind of inclusive faggot that wants all the garbage ships to be useful in every single situation instead of the niches they were designed for.
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>>177092270
Range damps are better than jams against most normal ships that want to snipe forcing them to come close and get tackled or leave. Have you ever had your lock broken and then take about 45seconds for your cruiser to lock onto a frig? Because that's a bit more impactfull to your fight then some titan getting jammed by really lucky RNG that won't even repeat itself in the fight.
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>>177093523
>lol fucking cry about it shitter, take your maulus and shove it up your ass.

you're the one crying that someone can reduce your scan res by 5%

>you're retarded

no, you are. learn to read

>you can't name one reason why a dinky frig should have ANY influence over a megalith like a titan

because why shouldn't it? supercaps aren't immune to small guns, why should they be immune to ewar from a small ship? do you want to enhance the power of these ewar ships to compensate somehow? why?

>60 warp core strength

yeah that's really far too much, maybe 20 or so would be more reasonable

>some kind of inclusive faggot that wants all the garbage ships to be useful

so you think ships that aren't part of your "tryhard capital muh doctrines" should just have zero effectiveness at all and be only for pointless roaming pvp, then when someone right click teleports in a capital, everyone flying a normal ship must leave

you even say they're garbage. why should they be? die
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>>177092829
reddit karmafags
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Which frigs should I NOT engage as an alpha kestrel? I wanna be a solo pvp hero
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>>177096574
if you're in lowsec then all of them
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>>177096574
Any pirate frig
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>>177096574
Anything other than a Machariel or Vindicator
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>>177096574

tormentor, tristan, any navy/pirate frig
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STOP FUCKING INTERRUPTING MY RATTING
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>Gathered up the resources by mining myself to build a Rokh just because it's the ship that got me into EVE for sentimental value

I'm never mining again
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>>177096574
Rocket fit with webbers or light missile with sensor disruptors?
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>>177100449
I've never bothered building anything bigger than a frigate. Mostly because exploration frigates make insurance companies cry.

But I'm glad you feel accomplished.
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Why is CCP replacing perfectly good outposts with fucking citadels?
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>>177102138
I just feel miserable, how the shit can anyone mine for a living?
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>>177103345

Because entosis mechanics were a mistake.
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>>177103638
>
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>>177103418
I just leave it going in the background while I do other things. It's far more tolerable if you only interact with it every 15-30 minutes.
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>>177103418
You mine with friends after a successful PvP roam.
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Can I join PH just to solo roam around high sec and kill war targets?
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>>177108225
Probably. As I understand they take literally anyone.
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>>177108225
sure, just fly cheap all the time. .
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>>177108225
yeah, applications are auto-accepted, and they encourage you to have a caldari alpha alt in hisec for caracals
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I kinda just want free war targets. I don't want to join the fleets or get on comms.
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>bought a ratting carrier
>tfw too scared to actually use it
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>armor fleet cta
>bring navitas
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initiated compact warp scrambler
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>>177109306
Give it to me, I'll use it.
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>>177109306
just jump out, man, how can you get caught?
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>caldari navy ballistic control system
>faction drone damage amplifiers
how do I convince myself these things are worth it?
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>"i will never use more than 1 account!"
>the person who says that lives in nullsec
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>>177109306
Why? It's safe if you are In corp with intel and standing fleet.
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>trained jump skills
>ditched caps and refocused on battleships
>realize I can now fly blops
cool
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>blops
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Why do nullbabies hate cloaking devices so much?
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>>177118542
muh ticks
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Caldari Navy Hookbill
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>>177118542
Dunno, me and my friends love them.
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>>177118542
speaking of cloaking devices, can someone explain Wingspann to me? Are they just a reddit meme corp, or are they actually good? Do they actually have a base in WH space?
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>>177118542
Cloaking is fine but sitting on a safe for weeks and not being able to do anything about it is the problem.
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>>177116423
B-but I don't really feel safe, I'm in Co2. I did manage to light my first cyno today and didn't bounce off the fortizar I jumped to.
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>>177054134
This is just ONE GUY taking advantage of that bug.
This ONE GUY making up to 1.5 trillion a month.
Good lord CCP fuck the in-game economy at least they're making bank on extractor sales.
https://evewho.com/corp/B0T3T3+M4ST3R5
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>the Upwell Consortium and its security organization, the Department of Friendship and Mutual Assistance, have declined to comment.
>Department of Friendship and Mutual Assistance
Wow, totally not a dystopia in making.
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>>177091427
>he can't win 2:1 outnumbered fights against nullbabies
baka anon
only excuse is supers and titans dropped on you
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>>177120295
Just join All-Out instead.

>>177120309
>Reeee there should be more counter-play to the most risk averse strategy in the game

Next you are gonna tell me you want to be able to pvp station traders.
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>>177121098
>he doesnt know about the market pvp
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>>177121098
>Reeeeee don't suggest any counterplay to my strategy that let's me disrupt how you play even though I am afk and at work.
Next thing your gonn tell me is that you want the ship to gank for you as well.
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>>177121227
If out of ship mechanics count as pvp, then playing on a highsec alt is the best way to pvp cloaky campers.
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>>177121561
>afk and at work

Then you can rat?
What the fuck, don't you have a T3C alt cloaked in your sites anyway?

Also, how is it so hard to check a pilots KB and see when they are really active and not just sitting in local?
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>>177120309
>the problem
What problem? It makes carebears unreasonably angry and that's about it.
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>tfw you were born on the wrong continent to play EVE
>all the bullies are EU, RU and early USTZ
>forced to go on strat ops and and suffer entosis meme pvp every day
>late US and AUTZ is 99% peaceful and you can krab all you want because there are never any strat ops
>instead of awful TIDI '''''battles'''' they get fun small gang skirmishes and 50vs50 fights
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>omg a 6/10!!
>corpum a-type energized em membrane
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>plex over 1,4b
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>skill injectors over 700m
Just end me already.
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>plex buy order was on semi ok 2,44
>some faggot comes and sets buy order for 2,66
>11k pcs
epic
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>2.1b PLEX
Welp, it's been fun lads.
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>>177123403
Join All-Out, we have Australians.
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>>177125728
>we have Australians
I'm so sorry.
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>>177125765
>he doesn't have a multicultural corp
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>wear tattered clothes and don't shave
>play guitar in front of a coffee shop or the park for an afternoon next to a money bowl
this sure beats having to grind red triangles for 30 hours
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>>177123403
>bitching about how AUTZ gets the best fights

We also have absolutely fucking terrible ping in any online game outside of Australia, the native wildlife is the spawn of Satan himself, and the rest of the world forgets we exist 99% of the time.
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oneiros
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I need a corp.
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>>177120868
>that up-scaling
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>>177130124
What kind?
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>>177132571
Some place to rat in a Rattlesnake would help.
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>>177132665
Join ascee.
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>goons
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>>177121098
Cry about it faggot

Ccp is never gonna remove cloaky campers. They'll remove local making it even harder to get cloaky campers before removing cloaks
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>>177121994
Because he's a fucking lazy ass faggot

He won't look up a kill board let alone go the distance to make a spy and put it in the enemy Corp
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>what is npc corp
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>>177134270
Look up the kb, find out who he flies for, put a spy in them
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>autistic roleplay is a counter to pressing f1 on cloak
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>>177134620
The counter play to one guy putting up a heavily defended fortizar is a massive fucking fleet able to tank it and rf it
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>not shooting it while it's anchoring
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>>177130124
you could join all out my friend
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retribution
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>>177136262
Sucks it's even slower than the punisher and has the same mids!
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>muh mids

fly something else if you're incompetent
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>>177136829
AFs aren't fast enough to have 2 mids.
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>>177137072
AFs aren't anything enough to exist
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>>177137145
Wouldn't a nice issue summary include that it's worse and more expensive than a Stabber?
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>>177137825
that's not a lot more expensive, that's about the same price

and your fit is shit
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>>177134620
>checking KB
>autistic roleplay
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>>177137825
For ease, nerds:

[Retribution, +]
Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
IFFA Compact Damage Control
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Extruded Compact Heat Sink
Heat Sink II

5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Warp Scrambler II

[empty high slot]
Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Scorch S

Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I
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>>177137882
It's just a ranged tacke fit.

>"""a lot""" more expensive
Either way, it's about 10M extra with worse tank and DPS.
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>>177138008
it's probably about the cost of a small ancil more expensive

>just a ranged tackle fit

it looks like a bad attempt at a solo fit
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>>177138008
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>>177138113
that's also a shit fit
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>>177138254
Not an argument.
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>>177138304
>look at my shitfit, this ship sucks

also not an argument
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>>177138340
>Strawman
Now, where were we?
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>>177115794

I usto say this, then i got a wyvern.
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>>177138378
it's not a strawman though
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>>177138539
It is. You aren't saying why you think it's shit, and you're using this unexplained bullshit to try to counter the po8int.
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>>177138785
..Not to mention saying that the argument of stat and price isn't an actual argument.
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>>177138785
you are not even trying to explain what's wrong with a retribution or stabber, you're just posting bad fits
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>>177139164
Nobody said anything that the Stabber could benefit from.
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>>177137825
Supposed to be a warp disruptor. I just edited another fit and apparently missed that.

Cap is shit, BTW.
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>long point
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>>177140504
Yes, that's why it has a nano.
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>1LSE stabber
>longpoint retribution
Wow this thread is utter shit
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>>177140626
They're the same speed (which is a stat often mentioned talking about AFs).

Why would a ranged Stabber not have a cap booster?
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>deleting you're posts
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>>177118738
for what purpose?
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What could possibly go wrong
https://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/t3-strategic-cruiser-focus-group/
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>>177139330
no, but you're saying the retribution is so bad it's worse than a stabber. but your retribution fit is shit, your stabber fit is shit, and you completely fail to see the advantages an AF has over a T1 cruiser, looking only at ehp dps and speed

tldr stick to f1ing, line babby
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>>177141265
>I've flown T3 cruisers almost exclusively since they were released, I'd love to be a member of your T3 cruiser buffing group
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>>177142809
>advantages
For the price and role, what supreme fit can you post of either ship to make the point any less valid?
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>>177142971
make what point less valid
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>>177143056
That an AF with 2 mids is completely outperformed by a cruiesr.
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>>177143396
outperformed at what, and what relevance do the 2 mids have?

mfw faggots moan about how they can't undock with only 2 mids, then proceed to fly shield ships with all but 2 mids filled with tank
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>>177143526
Ranged tackle.

Why would an AF be flown with 2 mids over a cruiser at 4?
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>>177144053
what does ranged tackle mean? this doesn't sound like something a stabber is good at either

>Why would an AF be flown with 2 mids over a cruiser at 4?

because there are other attributes on a ship than number of midslots
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>>177144140
You're backpedaling from making a point through this whole conversation.
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>>177144329
that's not what backpedalling means
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>>177144381
It very clearly makes appropriate analogy to what you're doing. Why reply if you're not going to say anything?
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>immediately start aligning out the second a neut appears
>cyno tengu nearly bumps my rattle as he's coming out of warp
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>>177144548
it doesn't at all. you are not succeeding at making your point. you seem to have no idea what sig radius or resists are. you're trying to do a balance moan, but you are too much of a babby line member
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>>177144779
How about half the DPS?

How about range?
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>>177145138
yes, smaller ships have shorter range and less dps
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>>177145239
So, what application does the AF have on the cruiser? Just sig?
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>>177145359
and resists and scan res. and they're slightly faster than cruisers except for the fastest cruisers in the game

I don't fly AFs, I don't think AFs are good. I just think you're retarded
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>>177145663
OK, but we're talking about the Retribution, and because of speed, the Stabber.

6K EHP isn't going to outlast the Stabber through its ancil charges for ranged tackle for any reasonable fight (where saving 21.5M with a Punisher wouldn't be the go-to option).
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>>177146029
>where saving
/ beyond where*
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>>177146029
>6K EHP isn't going to outlast the Stabber through its ancil charges for ranged tackle for any reasonable fight

if your frigate is receiving the same damage as a cruiser you must be really shit at eve

and if you don't think an ancil and a dc is enough tank, why is that your setup?

and what does ranged tackle mean, why are these fits loaded up with damage if you're a tackler?
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>>177145359
AF is a beefier damage focused frigate. It is not at all like a cruiser.
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>>177146661
>>177146931
>small gang
The cruiser is going to win because what's on field most are T3Ds+.

That pretty much sums up other types of engagements, because cruisers are most popular, and they apply to frigs just fine.
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>>177147203
>The cruiser is going to win because what's on field most are T3Ds+

on what field? what are you talking about?
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>>177141265

>Following the example of the successful Tactical Destroyer focus group, we are opening applications for a new Strategic Cruiser Focus Group to help refine and improve the designs for this T3 Cruiser rework.

What a fucking joke, CCP ignored every suggestion the T3D group made.
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>>177147203
only for honoribu 1v1

for everything else its going to be lopsided ganks.
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>>177147270
Small gang.
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Alright, so I just started the game playing the turorial of course and the game wanted me to buy a "Civilian Data Analyzer Blueprint" so far so good. I bought the item but it doesn't apear in my item hangar.
Am I just plain stupid or is this a common bug?
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>>177147398
>Small gang

I get that that just means everyone abusing rapid lights drones and fighters, which are broken, but if we pretend that ccp fixes them in the next few decades, small ships will have a purpose

obviously AFs would still be terrible because they're too slow and have dumb capacitor and fitting
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>>177147790
>small ships having a purpose with capitals as the main source of area control
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>>177147790
>butthurt
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>>177148007
yeah capital damage application is enormously fucked up right now
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>it's the retard who doesn't know shit about caps again
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>>177151201
yes, it's you again
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oneiros
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How can you tell if a corp is good to join?
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by joining them
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>>177155358
If you can get in it probably isn't a good corp)))
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>>177156234
Then who should I join
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>>177156431
Find a corp in an alliance you would like to join that is in your timezone.
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>>177144714
he's got an alt in your corp
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Sugoi~
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fyi the upgrade from the corax to the caracal is such a power jump it is embarrassing.
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>>177155358
evewho, zkillboard activity, employment history of their leadership, leddit and forum posts, would they let a retard in?,are they actually active during the time you play EVE?, do they actually do what they claim they do?
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>corax
who?
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would waifu if corax wasn't a special level of pointless shit joke within a pointless shit joke class
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eris
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>>177163137
buy a stork
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>>177163392
I want to be pretty, but I don't want to be your jump/link meme slave
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>>177163612
you are retarded
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>>177163686
>he thinks t1 destroyers are in a good state
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yes, also not what I was implying
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>jump/link meme slave
better than being an F1 monkey
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>in a good state
are you even playing EVE lol
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So what do people think of the planned CONCORD battleship for attenders of the next event?
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useless shit like the other ones
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Seems legit
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So which Titan is the best? Personally, I think it's the Caldari Leviathan.
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>>177168046
lel, the Avatar is clearly the best because rainbow lasers.
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>Caldari
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>>177168046
erebus is best looking and most damage
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>>177168046
>Leviathan
Low quality bait baka
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>spending a year and a half to steal a bunch of AT ships
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>>177170025
>pvp content
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'Integrated'
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>>177161020
Feels like its just a time release skill injector.

At least someone doesn't have to provide the skill points.
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>>177170025

it was one.
He paid a whiptail to get the chremoa, and then managed to steal one other.

He took more in reputation due to taking the ships with a couple hundred killmarks on them, but otherwise, jackasses being jackasses and then gloating.
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neat strats ccp, actually thinking about subbing with real dosh so i dont lose my neat numbers
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oneiros
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ded as fuck
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>>177180990
too busy playing eve to shitpost
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>T3C focus group

I look forward to reading their logs. I think they'll all want to keep their hunting cyno tackle alts with a million ehp and keep T3Cs as cancerous blob ships as well and just push for buffs to underused subsystems and not fix anything
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>>177182864
The one thing they won't care about is keeping the PVE Tengu useful. It's in their interest to ruin lowsec mission running and DED plex farming.
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>>177183849
I imagine they probably think cancerous capstable active tanks are good
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when are we getting ships or structures past titans.

Death stars when. Large structure that can be boarded with ships.
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>>177185738
As soon as Valkyrie and Dust reach their full potential.
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>>177185738
so a station?
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did a lot of players migrate to elite dangerous
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>did a lot of players migrate to elite dangerous
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>>177186403
no

a space dungeon except instead of warping to different sigs in a system you are moving into different parts of a structure fighting and clearing to accelerate gate into more parts looking for the core to blow it up like the death star

maybe a dyson sphere lul
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>>177186551
no, to star citizen

>playing game with economy over game with gameplay
lmao
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incursus
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I've always been interested in Eve, is it worth getting into now?
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No.
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>>177188893
not if your a millennial. You should play games like elite dangerous or star citizen. This game is like having a garden or doing woodshop.
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But I want to fly a Falcon.
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>>177189154
I'm 33.
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>>177187000
what that mean?
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My corp split in three. Miners and hardcore pvp'ers went their separate ways and formed their own corps. Now I'm left in a high sec corp with 20 others and no direction to go in.
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>>177192187
kill them and destroy their ventures
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>>177192295
they're all orcas and hulks
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>playing star citizen
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>>177188893
yes it still has a few years left, maybe even a decade
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EVE 2 when
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>nobody bumping the /v/ thread while I make my reply
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>>177196471
TL;DR everybody think's EVE's P2W.
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>>177196762
..And nobody knew can figure out the depth before thinking this or even quitting?
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>>177195137
Right after Dust becomes a success
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>>177196874
new*
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The new map is likable.
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>>177198654
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>>177198654
i dont like how it expands current system to show its planets and shit directly in the map instead of just being a dot

no dot no buy
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Hourly reminder.
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>>177126414
Or you could do less than an hour of cams.
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>>177188893
It is boring until you git gud at manual piloting in the zoomed out tactical view and use hotkeys for everything while running memefits to meme over other people in this game.
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>>177199125
that's my number one complaint, takes up precious waypoint setting time.
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What's ISK/hr like in W-space with a HAC/BS/T2 Logi fleet?
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>>177201628
lol
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>>177201628
Not as good as an alpha gnosis fleet in W-space.
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What's a good ship if I want to fuck with small gangs?
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>>177203531
Bump them with an avatar
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>>177203531
Small gangs of what?
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>>177203531
Small gangs tend to be very similar to solo pvp fits, only difference is you can afford some specialization to tackler or dps.
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>>177203531
triple rep hyperion
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>>177203531
If it's small gang of rookie ships then a Sabre.
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>>177204028
The guys that roam here are usually in a ceptor or two, Keres, and Phantasms or Othruses
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Best regions for exploring?
Great Wildlands is void of pilots with fairly average value sites.
Immensea has a lot of sites but very low value loot (seriously, 4 relic and 6 data sites only yeild 60m or so).
Paragon Soul is .. well, tiny.

These are my findings so far. A friend tells me Cache and Stain are worth a lot.
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>>177204417
Stain has lots of smartbomb camps, spend some time making gate bookmarks if you're going to explore there.
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>>177204417
W-space, like always.

>you will see 3 billion PLEX by July
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>>177204194
>not swarming with Kestrels
do you even train missiles?
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>>177204297
Well you need to damp or jam the kerres or else anything you fly solo into them will get shit on.
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>>177204417
>exploring anything other then hi sex wormholes leading into -1.0

I don't think doing it any other way is even worth your time. You can easily get like 30m for just doing one site with in a sub 1m ship and never having anyone show up.
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>>177204417
Sv5 and HED always have tons of sites you should go there.
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>>177201628
http://invadingyourhole.blogspot.com/2015/10/my-c5-pve-rr-rattlesnake-setup.html
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>>177203531
A carrier, preferably a Nidhoggur. You get extremely high DPS, fighters have great application against anything cruiser-sized or higher, you support fighters can tackle them, and you have space superiority fighters for dealing with smaller fry.
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>>177205742
Unless the keres is brain dead they should be able to leave before you lock anything.
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>>177206220
Which is why you bring sensor boosters and a networked sensor array.
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>keres
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>>177206386
How fast will you lock if you have 3 overheated damps on you?
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>>177206612
>assuming the Keres will be able to lock me at 300+ km

Carrier lock ranges are fucking awesome.
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>>177206818
So the gang just crashes gate or leaves because you are so far away?
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>>177207452
I sit 300 km away.
I have my fighter squadrons orbiting the gate at 5km
When I see the gate flare, I pop my networked sensor array, and lock any neuts I see come through.
Support fighters keep the enemy held down while my light fighters rip them apart.
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>in my T1 frigate
>carriers are very careful to warp in at 100km so they don't get brawled down
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>>177207870
those 900k ISK exploration herons are fucking scary!
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>>177207710
Oh so you might kill the scout. lol
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>T1 frigate lands on my carrier at zero
>it's dual prop
>it just speed tanks all my fighters and kills me

when will ccp fix this shit
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>>177208840
Is fighter tracking really that bad?
>not having friends.
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>>177209116
no, I was memeing. fighters will kill even extremely speed tanked frigates in seconds. you don't need friends, everything dies
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>>177209332
Oh OK. I have been attacked by a carrier in a frig before but I was in a tank meme fit punisher so I just crashed the gate.
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>>177209650
you can crash a gate just fine, it takes them a couple of seconds to lock you and apply fighters. at worse you'll take one volley and be in structure when you jump out
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>>177207710
>small gang jams fighters
>small gang shoots fighters
>carrier is defenseless
>small gang tackles carrier
>lose nidhoggur
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>>177211654
Can the carrier just cycle to non jammed fighters?
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>>177212016
>recall and redeploy fighters
>takes a few seconds
>fighters now need to relock
There are difficulties with your plan.
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>got a rattlesnek for better ticks
>switch back to VNI 3 weeks later because AFK ratting is comfier
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>>177212908
You still have to sit there babysitting it. Get the most out of your time and quadbox carriers
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>>177213471
At least with a VNI, all I have to do is let it sit there while I watch anime or some shit on another monitor occasionally looking back to check on local.
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>>177211654
This is why the carrier engages from 500+ km. Because I'll have ample warning of incoming tackle.
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>spent 3 hours roaming for fights in a T1 cruiser and frigate
>got blobbed by 5 man gangs with pirate faction ships or just didnt find anything at all
what the fuck i was told roaming would be the best way to find fights
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ok faggots i did what you told me to go omega, i am now omega state. bought a heron for exploration/hacking shit and i'm aiming for a VNI

NOW WHAT?
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>>177215983
rat for 31 hours so you can afford next month's PLEX
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>he started to play in 2017
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>>177215471
Well sounds like you found some. Get gud and learn how to find ratters and miners faster or roam with more than two people and kill one of these expensive ships that cost more than your gang.
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>>177215983
Explore null/wh. Train AB, fuel consumption, the capacitor skills, drone interfacing, drone specialization for the racial drones. You want to do at least 400dps with your VNI.
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Are goons actually insufferable dicks or is it just a meme?
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>>177217414
Yes, because they're bitter they paid $10 for access to a shitty website.
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>>177217414
The leadership can be annoying and there's circlejerking around said guys, as you could expect. Line members are mostly friendly and will help if you need it, as long as you arent a mouthbreather.
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>>177217414
A goon just came into my system. He didn't catch my VNI but he blew up my MTU and smugtalked in local. Now he's cloaked somewhere and won't go away.
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I just need 300 mil for my PLEX, please leave
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So what do people think about Goonswarm?
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>>177218034
Well tell him he can fuck himself and go on journey of discovery to make your fortune. But remember success will only come to you if your warp core is the most stable it can be.
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>>177218247
You can make that in a few hours anon. And if you fly the safest of all exploring ships it carries little risk of loss.
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So.....I got this game 3 years ago. Got the starter thing, which at the time gave one month, the amarr explorer frigate, and some amenities. Cue not playing beyond the month due to not having time. Come back, 3 years later, free to play.
But can't use the Amarr frigate explorer because I picked Caldari.
Wat do?

And yes, I did pay for the starter.
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>>177218914
Buy a Heron. The special edition Amarr frigate got converted into a normal frigate and a ship skin.
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>>177218914
Buy a Heron. It's the Caldari equivalent of the Amarr exploration frigate.
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>>177218914
buy a heron
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>>177219003
>>177219024
>>177219025
Um, ok.
Buy Heron it is.
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>>177218914
You can sell the frig if you want. But you should just re-sub and fly whatever you want.
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>>177219195
Figures.
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>>177218442
>>177218730
I'm gonna try this, it's better than waiting for him to leave. And when I get my PLEX I'm gonna train for a Stratios and camp goons all day while watching Anime.
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>>177219242
>move into the next system
>keep ratting
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Anyone has an exploration guide because the tutorial suckd balls?

i bought a heron and 2 mils + the fittings is a lot of trips in my venture mining veldspar i don't want to lose it
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What are the best T2 shield and armour logi, respectively?
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What do I do about rats targetting my drones?
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>>177219553
watch twitch tv evescout
the guy only does exploration, it doesn't matter which video
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>muh t2

kys
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>>177220270
Thank you my dude, i would give you the succ but you are far away, i wowuld give you shekels but i'm too poor so i will give you a cute anime girl.
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>>177220208
warp to a safespot, eject and board your VNI again. and make sure to let the NPCs aggro you before you launch drones.
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>>177219553
There are many decent guides on the YouTube but you want relic sites. Learn to use d-scan and intact armor plates are the big money. The cost of your frig may seem like a lot but just one null relic site will be worth at least 15 mil if you get shit drops.
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>>177220351
>wanting to use shitty T1 logi
>hating T2 this much
>still being alpha
>when it's entirely possible to play EVE for $60 a year per account (christmas subscription keeps the discount until cancelled)
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>>177220208
relog
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>>177219242
Go forth young one. The journey into the darkness is full of peril but many rewards await you if you have equal parts caution and daring. I will pray to Amarr to guide you safely and that you may overcome your addiction.

Amarr Invictus young one.
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If I get into this game can I fly an aircraft carrier type ship? That or set up industry on planets and such.
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>>177223375
Carriers exist but they take quite some time to train into, there are also drone ships which do the same thing just with unmanned drones

Planetary Interaction or Space based industry prob fit the latter and can make some pretty good money on the side.
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>>177223708
Cool any tips on going down those routes?
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>>177224154
Gallente is the best choice for drones and pve if your an alpha. The other choice is Amarr but Amarr sucks as both solo and an alpha. To top it all off their carrier is the worst one bit their ships look nice. As far as planetary interaction goes its just one part of the industry game but you can do what many people do and use it as a passive income source if you don't want to do the rest. Beyond that I don't understand Industry to well so you will have to talk to one of those guys.
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>his name will never be on EVE monument
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>>177224821
>I picked Amarr cause they look cool and the religous stuff is neat
Fuck. I dont plan on going Omega any time soon unless I really like the game. What does Amarr do well?
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>>177224951
Run out of capacitor.
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>>177224951
Running out of cap
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>>177225296
There must be a joke im missing but surely there is something good about the shiny ships.
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>>177225376
It's not a joke desu. Amarr weapon systems use capacitor, and require pretty good capacitor skills to be effective. And those skills are limited for alphas, so, as you would imagine, Amarr alphas kinda suck. Good news is you can always create more alpha accounts and train characters from different races.
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>>177224951
Amarr use lasers/drones do deal damage and use armor to tank damage.
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>>177225508
Well thats nice. So which race is the alpha friendly one.
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>>177224951
Fleet combat and being hard to kill. There are exceptions with some of the more advanced ships but bricky amarr cruisers with the tech 2 ammo melt things at mid range and are good at covering each other. The only issue is its sometimes hard to force the enemy to fight you but like I said if you have other ships to cover this weakness you can do a lot of work and even the ships that don't specialize in drones can still carry a lot of them so they are still an important part of your damage. I fly Amarr ships in small gangs so its another players job to catch the enemy and its my job to catch up and hold on to them and beat them to death so its not a big deal that most ships are in the slow side.
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>>177225581
Gallente for drone stuff
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Alpha amarr have omen witch is great way to start solo pvp.
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>>177225970
i dont think alphas use cruisers unless its for fleets or pve
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>>177226305
Why not? It's quite cheap even for alpha
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>>177226305
>he doesn't know about the gnosis
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>>177226663
>cruiser
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>>177225581
Gallente for PvE, Caldari for PvP. Minmatar is also decent for PvP.
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>>177220427

Is null worth it without cloak? Im not seeing it.
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>>177218730

Exploration in low is not worth it. I know, Ive fucking made it.

In null you will get whacked. Some fag will drop a bubble and you have no fucking cloak.

Anyway, plex is 1,5bil (2 soon) so fuck it...
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>>177188893

Totally. You require some programming skills a good PC, multiple VM's and a decent dynamic VPN service.
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>>177226815
a cruiser for battle a battle cruiser if you will
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Any stories of killing gatecamps? Seems like something I would enjoy doing in this game but I'm unsure of all the mechanics they employ against you. Normally see T3 desi w/ logi at them. Would probably do it solo or with 1 other person. Just interested in seeing other player's perspective on it before I try it out.
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>>177217414
meme
>>177217707
Nobody does that
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>>177226908
The cloak costs more than the rest of my ship lol. And I have only lost two magnates in the 6 months I have been exploring. Once when I was just starting and chose to scan from a wormhole like an idiot and once because I got bubbled on a gate trying to warp off instead of just crashing it.
>>177226991
The only time you should ever get bubbled is if your on a gate or land in it. If your on a safe you should be aligned to the next safe and if you see anyone on your overview you just instantly warp. And if you die because you did not check dscan for probes you deserve it.
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>The cloak costs more than the rest of my ship lol
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>>177228551
Sabres tend to chase, you're very easy to kill if you don't mwd-cloak and change direction properly.
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>1,5b plex soon
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1,5b?

you fucking what
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>>177216073
>>>/v/377358728

>>>/v/377401695
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>/v/
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>>177230757
Tell that to the sabers I juke. They need to step up their game.
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>>177233953
Look on the market.
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>>177236187
I guess Im not coming back to eve then.

1b ok
1,5 what the hell
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>>177236387
Its a speculation bubble. The price will go down in a month when the rest of the aurum converts to nu PLEX
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>>177236713
It's not a speculation bubble. The skill training exploit lets you train any character long after the game time runs out
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>>177237018
Then it is a bubble. Once everyone has their skill farms cooking demand will go down and so will prices.
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>>177224876
>tfw you've been playing since 2004 but didn't get on both the monument and in the space capsule
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>>177237509
lol
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>find Worm
>reships to Phantasm
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>>177225508
the joke is that cap is a meme since you can just put on a cap booster and running out of cap from lazers or getting nuet gets countered hard
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>forced to fit a cap booster when half your races ship have 2-3 mid slots
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>>177226908
Just hit other planets on the way to a gate.
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>>177238393
>using offensive mids in a defensive races ship

da fug
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>offensive mid
>defensive race
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What's best FW to join right now for targets?
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>>177236713
>The price will go down in a month when the rest of the aurum converts to nu PLEX
Yeah maybe a dip for 100m for about a week and then it will go back up.
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>>177237018
SP farming actually increases plex demand, so prices should be lower. They are spiking because people aren't buying as much plex with cash as they used to, so the supply is lower. Who would have thought that shit changes to the game make people quit?
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>>177240241
It doesn't increase demand when you don't have to plex your farms.
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>>>/v/377401695
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>>177240387
And how do you start your farms, exactly? With PLEX.
How do you cash out? With PLEX.

You're retarded, go back to rebbit..
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Stop shilling your garbage thread.
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>inb4 plex price goes down and everyone who's stockpiled it starts selling off everything they own, oversaturating the market and causing plex to become worthless

This was more or less how the Great Depression started
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>tfw plex hit below 900m once
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>>177241309

Remember when they were under 300m? Bought a few hundred then, unsubbed and went to do other things. Maybe I should get back in and cash out.
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>>177241552
giev me one please

poor alpha fag here :((
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>>177241881

Sure, you can have one plex. Just come pick it up at jita 4-4 undock.
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Karmafleet, Dreedit, PH, Brave

Which is least cancer to join?
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>>177242448

Just make your own corp.
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>>177242665
but I want that null space krab life
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>>177243174
Join ascee and never talk to your corp again.
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>>177243174

So go krab. Not like they can stop you. Just having you in local is enough to make them dock up or log off.
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>>177243174
join the corp with the least tax, don't fill leadership's pockets
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>>177244150
literally ever corp in eve is pure autism
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https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/increased-skill-injector-flexibility-coming-on-may-23rd/

>With the changes to PLEX now deployed and the market now stable..

>the market now stable

Personally, I think they could have gone even smaller. Even 100m is kind of outside the range of new players.
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>>177246915
>Small Skill Injectors
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>>177247301

Oh yes, the scamming with these will be plentiful indeed.
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>However, with a minimum price tag of around 650 million ISK, injectors can feel out of reach for many players
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150m is also out of reach for them. 15m might be good, even 50m is pushing it.
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So yeah, it's lebbit. Whatever.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/6bxb62/the_300_billion_isk_heist_i_almost_wish_i_didnt/
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>>177242448
Karmafleet has some pretty good SRP for ship loses but its a bit of effort to set up all the shit they want after you join, also you will need to go on 3 fleets every month or so

Brave is pretty low effort to get into but you get bullied a lot by larger/better nullblobs

Dreedit is literally le reddit xD

Not sure about PH but they are pretty shit at nullsec in general
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Karmafleet is literally test2. Join ascee.
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>every Serpentis ship has a name starting with V

Were they named by V or something?

>inb4 Serpentis blows up the Gallente White House
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>daredevil
>vhite house
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>>177251037
The Daredevil is Angel Cartel ship pretending to be a Serpentis ship

>Vigilant
>Vindicator
>Vehement
>Vendetta
>Vanquisher

Varevevil when?
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>>177251509

It checks out, there's V of them.
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>>177250942

Too bad Ascee is getting kicked.
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So what's /dogs/'s verdict? Do you believe ghost training is real? There actually isnt any sort of proof, as others have pointed out it might just be a psyop to get more people to buy PLEX to increase demand in hopes of starting their own ghost farm. But then again the current skill injector cost is almost low enough that it's muscling out people with legit farms, maybe they're offloading everything before CCP patches it out. And now they're throwing in a new injector into the mix?
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>>177252946

Ghost training was real, before alphas.
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>>177252440
>keepstar finishing
>kicked
eric
>>177252946
>the current skill injector cost is almost low enough
uwot
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>>177253553
Anything for them killmails.
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>>177252946
maybe it's related to ghost sites
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>>177238685
>defensive race
This isn't a thing. Amarr have neuts and drones, not to mention laser range.
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>>177240564
>And how do you start your farms, exactly? With PLEX.
with one subbed omega account and one PLEX, you plex the rest with chain referrals

>How do you cash out? With PLEX.
yeah, one plex after 8 months of FREE skilltraining.
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>>177253840

>neuts

defends against cap hungry weapons.

>drones

defends against frigs, drones

>laser range

aka no dps.

Get over it, Amarr is the Darkness of Eve.
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>>177242448
PH has good farming and is close to Jita.
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>>177254474
>close to Jita
This is not a good thing.
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>>177246915
>>177248135
>>177248238
>100M
>100k SP
It's absolutely unsophisticated
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>>177254081
>these things are defensive even though they attack things
Neuts and lasers both require cap, so they should be designing ships with good stats.
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>>177253553

>tfw widot had a keepstar before Ascee
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>>177255412
>>177253553
How does a corp even get kicked from Goons? It seems like all they care about is tax income. PVP participation is a joke when you need 3 paps every 3 months.
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>>177256245
It's a meme
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Hey, dude that kills for percentages.
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>>177256319
Yeah but Goons have PLA and ASCEE/Karmafleet take anyone that applies
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>>177256245
>>177256319

its both, you can get kicked if all your corp dose is jew and never goes on fleets, raging ducks got kicked last year for just this, i think a few other shittler corps have also been kicked.
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>>177256839
Idk about some literally who corps. The prime shitter corps might be mostly retarded but the participation is high. Last fleet I was in was like half chinese.
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>>177257082

If your corp puts bodys in fleets or as a bunch of space important people your fine, i mean Karma is too fat to fail at this point.
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>tfw you joined TEST instead of Goons because your friend told you it's a casual alliance
>stuck in Stain for the last month
>spent the 'krabbing month' bashing 10000 citadels and fighting troll entosis fags
>not allowed to rat
>strat ops every 2 hours
>corp that disobeyed the orders got kicked even though they had a huge amount of caps and supercaps
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>>177258352
>>tfw you joined TEST
>join
>TEST
Degenerate
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goons please get off this sub
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>>177258430
I thought it would get better after we took Esoteria but it's just war war war. I just want to make some Isk and go on fleets when I want to, not get bullied into spending all my playtime PVPing.
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>not allowed to rat
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>>177258765
Only between strat ops. My CEO told us that we need better fleet participation. And since there's a strat op every 2 hours and we have to live in the ass end of Stain for some meme deployment you can't really make any Isk if you don't have alts or are a market jew with a JF.
All my Isk is tied up in outdated doctrine ships and I can't even afford to haul them to Jita.
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>>177259342
Perks of being in a null block.
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>>177250950
What's the frigate's name?
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>>177258352
mail basement dweller number1 to awox ur noob pve alliance/blue mates

do it on an account they dont have api to and give me ur steam so i can talk to you outside game
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>>177260518
fuck off faggot
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>get DC'd
>whole UI resets
Wot. Is this a thing?
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>>177261658
Placement*
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Is bomber FW still existent?
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TFW noob who joined pupper and then it died harder than the corpse it was when I joined.

Help.
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It's not obvious? .. how Gallente and Minmatar always have the best FW even without great trade systems.
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So, how do I get into torpedo / cruise missile PvP? Bomber?
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>>177266706
Typhoon. Don't use cruises.
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>>177267067
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>>177267595
>alphas can get frigs and destroyers
>alphas can get cruisers but not battle cruisers

ccp fucked up. They should have given us battle cruisers like what the fuck we literally have to buy gnosis to do anything and arent those finite?
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>rhml has run out of charges.
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>>177258765
>>177259342
>null is good for ISK

The only people who make money are the Jews of Jita.
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>50km light missiles on a Corax with only Destroyer 3 and Bombardment 3
>fitting price is less than 2.5 million
lol
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>>177267595
>>177267920
t. has never used cruise missiles or flown a typhoon or anything

back to r/eve
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>lml corax
lies
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If you fly phoon without torps, you are retarded.
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>>177271324
you don't fly typhoons or use torps
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What kind of ticks should I be aiming for in a VNI? And are forsaken hubs really the best anoms?
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>>177271502
the biggest ticks, about 20 mil
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>>177265380
FW status is not connected to trade hubs by any stretch
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>>177271647
I'm getting 15mil ticks on a character with cruiser 5 and T2 drons and 8 mil ticks on my alt with crappy skills. Maybe my setups are bad?
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>>177273163
I get 100mil ticks with Nyx
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>ticks

wats dis
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>>177273419
sounds like 20min bounty payouts.
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>le epic lebbit post
There are no +20 damage implants
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How are Recons vs. Rattlesnakes?
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>>177276474
One's a pvp ship class the other is a pve ship. They don't compare.
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>>177276654
>

>>177276474
what are you talking about
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>>177276654
>>177276721
Hunting ratters.
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>>177276763
with what, just 1 recon?
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>>177276856
Or something.
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>>177276474
They'll die to them. All recons are flimsy and rattles shit out 1k well-applied DPS.

The curse could kill one if they're retarded and you somehow kill their drones.
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>>177276896
if they have sentries you might avoid their damage. if they have combat drones you'll die fast

recons are deliberately fairly weak to make up for their broken ewar and tackle aids
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>>177276897
Does that mean a Stratios can't kill me if I fly a Rattle? Can I just AFK PVP them?
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>>177277761
a stratios is not a recon. and if you're competent then a stratios is an easy kill, it depends on your fit
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>>177277761
A stratios is not a recon. A stratios can kill you.
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>stratios
>recon
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>recons fighting
>not skirting systems while spamming dscan
wtf
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https://zkillboard.com/kill/62315033/
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grrrr. i wanna do fun stuff now but this fucking game is making me wait three weeks.
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>>177280407
no it isn't
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>>177280407
REEEEE. I just wanna inject more isk into the market and cause more inflation
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>>177280407
>not converting usd into isk into injecters and overdosing on sp
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>>177280407
For what?
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>take a small break from eve
>No skill in training

AW FUCK
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>>177281561
upvoted xd
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https://zkillboard.com/kill/62384661/
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>>177281763
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>>177280202
>passive tanking a snek
y
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>>177281363
doing c2's in a drake.....
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>>177281763
https://zkillboard.com/kill/62384639/
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>>177281561
Now that the exploit is made public it will either be fixed (unlikely) or in typical CCP fashion, it will be declared an exploit but can't be fixed due to "legacy code" or some other mumbo jumbo reason.
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Kill the dog poster.
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>>177282374
It's public for months
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https://zkillboard.com/kill/62287311/
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>>177281503
you can petition that now and CCP will give you free SP for all the time you missed
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>>177282484
BRAVE wiki has had a guide that told you how to set up a ghost training SP farm since january. And that is BRAVE, everyone else has known about this for ages.
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>>177282393
who are you quoting
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https://zkillboard.com/kill/62385408/
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Both TEST and Goons are on suicide watch
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>>177282265
I wonder how TEST got the loot.
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this is why you don't run nanos and run stabs instead
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>>177284802
>pointed by 400 frigs
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zoltan pls
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>>177284907
What, nukkah?
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>>177280407
Just open that wallet, I'm sure you can get there a little sooner.
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>>177282374
>do scan on downtime once every 30 days
>for alpha accounts that haven't logged in for 30 days remove all skills in training
wow, done
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>tfw you pod someone who didn't warp off after a 1v1, destroying hundreds of millions of isk in implants, and get mountains of eve mail salt
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5 minutes ago I ate some bad fruit now all I can taste is mold.
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I've spent like 300M in frigates, and now I'm bored of losing ships at 70% ISK efficiency.
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>losing ships
What did he mean by this?
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so who did this bpc get stolen from? was it goons running it?
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>OMG HARDEST PVE EVUR
>Beaten by speedtanking t1 frigs
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>>177287932
Yeah.
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>179 in staging
>random 4 man gang that popped out of a WH 3 hours ago shuts down every PVE activity and won't leave
>no one is forming a home defense fleet
>can't undock my VNI
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Here's the Punisher fit that supposedly cheesed..
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>>177288225
sounds more challenging than just F1ing it with capitals
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>>177290297
>Orbit at 500
>Turn on MWD
>Press F1

omg so hurd
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>>177292312
>launch fighters

so hurd
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>>177054996
just lie
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omen
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>>177109306
>"Capital Ratting: Join the system's ratting channel, be in fleet, get on teamspeak, and be ready to use dscan.me. If you can't be bothered to do that then please die quietly"

>been putting off buying a mic
>everyone sounds like they're my age but they have kids and careers
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>Finally commit to training Advanced Industry V and Anchoring V so I can make some passive isk off capital/citadel manufacturing
>Full month of training
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>>177298501
no autistic feels shit please
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>>177298501
Stop playing Internet space ships and sort your life out you worthless degenerate.
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>tfw after a long ~100 day training queues I forgot to reupdate the skill queue of my toons for a whole day
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>toon
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https://zkillboard.com/kill/62384661/
What did they mean by this?
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>goons
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>hype up one of the largest PvE activities in the game
>make it exclusive to goons
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>>177302850
>they still fuck it up
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>>177302850
wasnt test also trying to run that thing?
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>Fleet comes into system
>Corp proceeds to feed nearly 2 bil unopposed
>Guy finally decides to form up
>Fleet leaves system
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>>177307625
Every fucking time.
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>>177305210
no, test wanted to prevent goons from running it
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>>177309807
>may 12
>all those rattlesnakes lost to the blood raiders
They definitely were trying to run the site.
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>>177310398
RA was trying to run it with Rattlesnakes, they're the ones that actually live in Period Basis
https://zkillboard.com/related/30004948/201705121800/
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amarr
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>You are part of New Eden's history
>please come back
lol I guess f2p didn't fly so good
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>>177314756
Ya I got that email again so I logged in spent 5 minutes looking around. Then got bored and closed it again. They really need to make the early game fun and enjoyable. Its actually the same thing with WoW. I missed the bus when it was popular so a few months ago I started it up and holy shit was it boring. If these game companys want to attract new players they need ways for the early players to make it to the end and stay but what they end up doing is overfavoring old players which is good since you know they are gonna stay but it neglects getting new blood. Oh well no skin off my nose.
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Returning player here.

I have a shit ton of stuff out in nullsec from my last corp. The station has changed hands, is there any way to check that I'll be able to enter the station before I get there?
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How fruitful was your friday night?
made 494mil and 175m in loot
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>>177316420
structure browser window. might only work in the same region though
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>>177316518
found 400 mil of loot I forgot about

>mfw free isk
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>>177316420
iktf
When is CCP doing away with all stations for good?
6 years ago in Broski I had a raven, buzzard, and badger(tayra), which I want all back
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>>177317190
if you can get your stuff into a citadel, you can get it teleported to empire space for a 10% fee
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>>177317190
sell it
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>>177317190
About 4-5 months
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So what's been going on with the lore lately? Has the Drifter plotline been advanced at all?
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>>177319547
There is a plot?
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>tfw trying to find a small gang group within my alliance
All I've found so far is "small gangs" of +30, gate camp only faggots and people that runs away from anything that might return the fire.
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>>177320185
Dont people take pilgrimages to the first warp gate or something even though its crazy far out of the way and theres no point?
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>>177320185
Yeah, most of it is written like a highschool freshman might, but it's interesting enough.

The Amarr stuff alone is pretty cool. Empress foreswore cloning until she got self dunked and a campaign of misinfo to sway the religious masses until she got permadunked by a Drifter.

It's neat.
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Keepstars were a mistake, and the fact that only one has ever been destroyed while fully online proves that.
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>>177320225
If your not to attached to your alliance you may want to check out PN4 small gangs of 6-12 is what we do and we almost never camp.
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>>177320315
It's located in the New Eden system. It's actually not that far from Gallente hisec. There's also a system near it with a permanent installment of the obelisk site, based on the one in 2001.
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Where's All-Out shill?

I need someone to verbally abuse.
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>>177323263
You can verbally abuse me, anon. I'm currently mining in high sec.
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>>177323263
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>>177321837
>leave alliance, source of income and have fun
>have a fat wallet
I shouldnt be doubting. Maybe I should just sell everything and place an alt in dronelands.
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>>177323263
We are legion.
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>>177323326
You're a fucking idiot, and I look forward to seeing HK/L A Z E R H A W K S/HK-wannabees completely obliterate your shitty corp.

>>177323454
Because I'm Omega, I have self-respect, and because I don't intend to join a corp that's going to get dunked several times a week. And even if I did, I'd probably go join Brave instead.
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oneiros
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>be in a corp
>have to socialize forcibly and unnaturally
>can't do FW anymore
>'home base' is far away from your main hub where all of your shit is

They need to make more single player content instead of catering to corp shit reee
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>mandatory corp mining day
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>>177326968
Nobody stops you from playing alone. Or just find a better corp.
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>>177327040
>optional miner ganking day
>it's every day

why would people play games to do tedious activities?
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>mandatory corp penis inspection day
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>logging in
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>logging off
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>>177327040
>mandatory
Fucking dropped.
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>>177323882
Nothing stops you from making money anywhere.
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https://zkillboard.com/kill/62151384/
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>>177328967
Looks like a nornal fit for shredding pods, Santo Trafficante style.
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>need new players for funding towards first person mode
>need first person mode to attract new players

its a catch 42 m8s
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>>177329578
>first person mode
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>>177327052
He's criticizing the quality of single player content. Nobody seems to suggest EVE for PvE, and that's obvious.
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>>177314756
Which is humorous because it's true, and a lot predicted it. I couldn't come to imagine so few would stay.. or even so few would have kept making new characters. It's really odd for a free game that's so unique, and I can't specifically blame just faction locks (but half training speed is probably absolutely awful).

In truth, though, I still would suggest that players majoritively come to experience a full sandbox and not this 1 mini-niche every few weeks/months charade.
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>>177329665
Yeah, PVE is generally boring as fuck, though there are other activities you can do alone like industry, market PVP and solo roaming. Even farming can be streamlined through multiboxing on your own. Still, everything has a price of entry and new players are almost forced to join a corp to get anywhere in a reasonable amount of time.
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>>177329905
Belts should spawn player-AI faction frigates (- cruisers?) that have the speed, tank, and damage of a standard fit. To make them more common, it obviously doesn't have to drop its BPC or whatever every time, but if they're common and have good bounties/rewards, there's every reason to go out and check belts to get that PvP feeling.. and how great is that?
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>>177330208
I don't run belts to get a pvp felling.
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>>177330281
You don't do anything PvE to get a PvP feeling, and that's the point.
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>burner missions are 400M/hr with LP
Wot.
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>>177332229
only in null and you will never hit 400m/hour there. highsec is more like 150-250m/h
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Jaguar
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Ya know, it makes no sense how EVE and WoW are compared, especially to make favor of EVE. Both PvP end up just about epeen in the end (KBs and rating). If it's about loss, you're probably just going to PLEX anyway.
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>wow
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>using the term plex
>has like 8 different meanings

people need to stop short handing everything ree
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>what is context
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>6 goon ceptors in your system
>can't rat
>can't mine
>can't fight them because they'll just run away
>weekend is ruined
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>ceptors
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>>177339901
Leave your system you bitch
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What is EVE's equivalent for e36?
I want to cosplay Russian mafia.
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>>177342587
heavy missile orthrus
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>>177339901
You must be in TEST or Horde going by you being too stupid to leave
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>coons
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>>177342461
>>177343235
I'm in RMT, I can't just leave my system. The rest of my corp is mining with Rorqs but I've only got a VNI.
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>joining PL renters
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>ratting
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>PvE
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>>177343813
It's not so bad during the week. Most of the bullies play between 19:00 and 3:00 EVE time. I'm a NEET so I just changed my sleep schedule to avoid them. I start playing EVE at 3AM and then rat until afternoon.
But weekends are terrible, there are way too many players online and I can't rat at all. I really wish I had an incursion alt.
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>>177345058
takes like a week or two to get enough skills to get into warp to me. if you're really good you can afk ishtar while incursioning
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tfw you lose you'are he kah te to a kirin with a blaster
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>>177345058
>not PVPing for your income

You have no idea how much ISK I make ambushing explorers with a Combat Recon in w-space and looting their wrecks
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>>177346136
It's pronounced HE-CATT-Y, you philistine.
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>>177346221
>with a combat recon
enjoy that 5 second lock time. I'd rather use a stealth bomber
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Hek8
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>>177346451
Combat Recons = can't mount covops, but don't appear on dscan, have higher DPS
Force Recons = can mount covops, appear on dscan, lower DPS

I use a Rook with RLMLs, an expanded probe launcher, some sensor boosters, a lot of shield tanking, and BCUs in the lows
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>mount
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>>177346845
post fit
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>>177346845
How do you make sure they get loot before pointing?
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>>177346957
[Rook, Explorer's Worst Nightmare]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

50MN Microwarpdrive I
J5b Enduring Warp Scrambler
X5 Enduring Stasis Webifier
Sensor Booster II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Prototype 'Arbalest' Rapid Light Missile Launcher
Prototype 'Arbalest' Rapid Light Missile Launcher
Prototype 'Arbalest' Rapid Light Missile Launcher
Prototype 'Arbalest' Rapid Light Missile Launcher
Expanded Probe Launcher I

Medium Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I
Medium Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I
Hobgoblin II x5

Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile x760
Combat Scanner Probe I x8
Core Scanner Probe I x8
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>>177347326
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>>177347326
thats cool I'll try it out later.

You don't jam at all? even one multispec?
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You're retarded for trying that shitfit
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>>177347326
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>>177347326
>50MN Microwarpdrive I
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>>177347326
Aren't a lot of frigates stabilized?
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>>177349182
A dumbfuck eft warrior wouldn't know
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I added gametime to the wrong account. How fucked am I, bros?
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>>177349527
Would a neut ship prevent warp?
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>>177349960
no, bumping might
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People who do this should be beaten to death in the streets.
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>you've missed 158k minutes of paid training
>here's 6.3M SP
What do I train?
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>>177351223
They should be publicly flayed alive and crucified.
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>>177351223
>someone undercuts from 15 jumps away
>people undercut it from jita
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>>177351223
>>177351724
What's the problemo friends?
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>>177351292
off remap skills
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>>177351867
IKR, but a carrier is like 5-8M.
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Can Zkill show a module search like ordinary ship results?
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>>177352204
no but the zkill api can
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Anybody here solo carrier pilot, for PvP, just for fun?
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>>177349620
Petition and they will help. Subscription and billing issues take priority.
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>solo carrier pilot

does that mean someone who hotdrops solo cruisers who wander into your ratting space
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>>177352982
You'll get baited.
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>>177353050
Just dropping on frigs through even other carriers
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>dropping

if you jump to a cyno you are not solo
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>>177353323
What's the word for sliding sweet fighters on gangs from 500k?
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just being your average shitter who understands how aids fighters are
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>corpmate breaking my anom chaining and taking a huge chunk out of muh ticks
>neuts
>he gets caught and dunked
>logs off
I should keep the ratting only to late night USTZ
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Kevin
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>xhe still can't deal with fighters
I bet you also think that the cap rebalance was a buff
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>>177353579
that's called karma.

don't steal anoms, anon.
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of course it was. the only nerf was to total ehp and in RR circlejerk ability
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>>177351223
if you can't handle the .01 isk bantz then don't play game
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>>177353781
>retard who doesn't know shit about the game
>>177353783
>retard
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>>177353579
US/AU TZ really is the best time to krab, it's not fair
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>>177354202
your retarded not me
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>me
>retarded
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>200M after insurance
How? 630M isn't even the cost of the ship.
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>>177356221
he somehow gets super ticks in a t1 fit carrier, maybe he's including loot and selling escalations. 150m/h are realistic but you'll need a 3-3.5b nidhoggur for that. insuracne is 430ish with 1.1b payout.

so you pay 3.9b for an insured ratting nid and then start making profit after 19 hours.
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>>177357317
Except he's saying the whole fit is 200M lost after insurance..

https://zkillboard.com/kill/62402439/
Even this is 600M.
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>>177357317
>>177357710
That post was probably from before the Carrier rework when they were cheap as fuck or something.
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>>177357795
>FSU
No, it used to be DCU and people didn't rat with fighters.
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KEEEEEEEEEEVIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN
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>>177357873
The fighters and FSU are ~170M.
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>>177357873
>>177358031
Also, that fit (>>177357710) doesn't have support units.
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new thread:
>>177358173
>>177358173
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