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Valeera is free on this weekend edition

What's new?

>2017 S1 rewards will be raptors mounts
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20562668

>Last week of Nexus Challenge
Grab a friend for the worst 5 matches of your life in exchange of boxes with rigged RNG

>D.Va spotlight
https://youtu.be/HlrAD_fkZ74

>Nexus Challenge 2.0 Oni Genji skin, Policeman D.Va, loot boxes, and more in Overwatch and HotS
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/heroes20/nexuschallenge20/
https://youtu.be/Bv2t9lwC7lk
>Megabundles Announced All players will be able to unlock up to 20 heroes for ''''''''FREE''''''''''
>Promotion ends May 22nd, 2017
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/heroes20/megabundles/

>Heroes of the Storm 2.0 Now LIVE
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20695700/
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/heroes20/

>Hamamura Battleground Announced Now LIVE
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/battlegrounds/hanamura
https://youtu.be/Dq5-18Vt-c0

>For New Players
>Welcome to Heroes of the Storm
https://youtu.be/wPk004vsjuE

>How to get good at everything in life
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlCRfTmBSGs

>Which heroes should I buy?
Anything but Nova

>Official Community Resources, Guides, and Tips
>Talent Calculators, Statistics, Youtubers, and more
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/guides-resources/

>Current Weekly Sale
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20720246/
>Current Weekly Brawl
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20766462/
>Current Patch Notes
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20720245/

>Pleb lists
http://www.robogrub.com/tierlist
http://www.tentonhammer.com/articles/heroes-of-the-storm-tier-list

>Where can I find you dota reject feeders?
"/join /vg/" in game chat

Last Episode: >>177207401
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Post skin mount combos.
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Where the FUCK is Maiev????
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On the subject of winrate, Blizzard believes that 50% is the sweet spot, and this means their matchmaking system works. As this means it's 50/50 win or lose. On the subject of this around release, they said they aim to have 50% win rate for everyone.
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I do wish Greymane could mount up by running on all fours as a Worgen
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>Sonya is my waifu
>Bought her announcer
>Compliments me when I'm doing well, cheers me up when I die
Funny how small things can make a game that much more enjoyable
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>nerf the shit out of tyrande with her rework
>nerf the shit out of any talent diversity
you only can pick talents at 4 and 16 which are healing tiers and the only real choice you have during her leveling process is at 20. 1, 7, 10 and 13 you only get one choice.

tyrande use to be so good because of the versatility of her builds and you could play her differently, now you just have to play her as a healer who auto attacks and has to take the level 1 stun talent just so she can have any kind of impact on the very late game when you stack it high enough.

how was this rework okay at all? you can't even go owl build because it's fucking garbage, they shouldn't have nerfed the width because even with the width it's unpickable as it has no impact in team fights, the only reason you really went it before was for the cdr on all your abilities

this is just a terrible rework. what is worse than nerfing an already weak hero is taking away all talent diversity and giving her only one way to play, then giving her shadowstalk but keeping her auto attack damage extremely low so again it's just a worthless ultimate other than as a weak version of sprint to get away
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holy FUCK alarak feels good now. i signed off on him ages ago because he felt so clunky and shitty to play, but he's feels so good to play now. he scratches that pubstomping itch i have since you can actually get really "fed" as him and really just carry a team

i just had probably one of the best games i've ever had in any dotalike just a second ago. webm related just happened and it was pretty hilarious at the time. finished the game with 199% sadism
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>they nerfed Tyrande's AA and also removed Seasoned Marksman
Aww man, that was my favourite AA hero
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>>177274619
>Le balanced invincible teleporting man of one shots and silence
The current meta is really capturing that SC2 vibe
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>>177274762
know your place, support. supports heal, assassins autoattack, god willing
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>Do well as Gul'Dan, usually win 4/5 matches
>Want to switch it up
>Lose
>Lose
>Lose

oic how it is
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>>177274813
All full Protoss team works as one big deathball too.
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>>177274871
>Usually do really well with Alarak, play him some more
>Lose
>Lose
>Lose
>Lose
I dont get it
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>>177274762
Yeah her AA build was fun, you could do a surprising amount of damage with seasoned marksman and searing arrows. I have no idea why they nerfed her aa build so much to the point it does no damage
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>>177274871
>>177275064
You two are shitters and you can only win with op heroes.
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I miss tracer ass dancing on unranked draft..
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Is Valeera the most fun hero?
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>>177275110
>Alarak
>OP
Hes strong but he still has one giant glaring weakness. Just run at him with someone who doesnt die immediatley.
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>>177275110

Gul'Dan, OP? The hell are you smoking.

If he's caught out of position he's fucked two ways from sundown.

The ONLY escape he has is at level 20.

gitgud
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>>177275248
>>177275280
mad shitters learn to play
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>>177275280
Gul'dan is op as fuck he's by far the strong mage, you just suck massively at playing him
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>>177275280
>Get caught
>Press drain life
>Press horrify
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>>177275476
see the trick is to either not get caught, or have a good team that can peel/heal when you do
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>>177274397
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Imperius when? Malthael when? Itherael when?
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next hero = Garrosh, multiclass
lok'tar ogar! victory or DEATH!

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>>177275592
Gul'dan doesn't care about such things unlike Jaina
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REMINDER
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>>177275337
>>177275372

You two are retarded, or something. My winrate as Gul'Dan is 88%.

>>177275476

>What is a stun, or any disable of any sort

I've shut down plenty of Gul'Dans as Uther. Just run up and slap them with a hammer, and your team fucks them up.

Wow. So hard. He's so OP.
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>>177275662
Behead those who [Embed].
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at least it wasnt my promo to masters XDDDpisdjisdgsg
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>>177274871
this but for lili
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>>177275662
>Embed
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>tfw no ice-themed maidenly spellcaster hero

Uh, hotszygotes???
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>>177276091
>>>>
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>>177276091
Jaina?
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>>177275970
>1-7 sonya
>stfu pls
>her damage relative to yours
>anub having more siege than fucking xul

how are people this delusional desu
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>>177274826
Filthy assassin picker
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>>177273853
Awesome tats babe!
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>>177276379
Awesome samefag!
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>>177276091
>tfw no fire-themed femdom waifu to call the maiden a slut and delet people with ult
why is this game so casual
i just want to stun people who are out of position and 100-0 them before the disable ends
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>>177275662
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rz3d3_4ij-g [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]
Cool song
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Remember that while rites of ralshir is the superior talent, it's much harder to play from behind with it
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>no hammer-wielding holy knight hero

hotoddlers???/?1 [Embed] [Embed] (You)
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vanessa vancleef when?
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>>177276494
Holy FUCK how sheltered and IGNORANT can you GET you CREEP? How the FUCK do you think I'm OP just because I said this WOMAN ruined her SKIN with SHIT GAUDY TRASHY TATTOOS? Get a LIFE!
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>>177276379
Thanks bae
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>>177276629
When they make her as a skin for Valeera.
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>>177276691
He is just a salty plebbitor assblasted to this very day because the OP now features waifus instead of his shitty oc
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>>177276509
>tfw no rippedbro that charges into battle with smile on his face who has cc on every ability and gains armour and spell resistance overtime in battle.
Seriously? I just want to win every teamfight while spamming a taunty laugh and high fiving myself.
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>>177277273
what dota hero is this?
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>guy swearing at other players
>keeps pinging non-stop
>he has the lowest kills/damage/xp everything

every time
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>>177277273
>tfw no fat hooker with actual damage who can gank and kill people instead of just lightly tickling them and blocking skillshots with his giant fat ass
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What if Zeratul's Singularity Spike didn't hit minions?
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>>177276691
>>177277216
>>177276724
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>>177276313
anub more siege than xul what
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>>177277691
but there is an artanis in the game already
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Who won the series last night, Tempest or MVP?
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>Hey D.Va has no charge built up for her mek and is out of position and is low on health
>LOL WAIT JUST SUICIDE MY MEK AT THE LAST MOMENT AND CALL ANOTHER ONE
I fucking hate abilities that are just a game of chicken. Kharazim's ult and D.Va's self destruct are the dumbest shit to fight against.
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>Go straight to the demotion game for leaving a queue where the game was lost at draft
What is this shit?
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>kerrigan succmeoff and cheerleader skin
>never play kerrigan

i appreciate the fap bait however
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>>177278324
MVP
Tempest got demolished
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>>177278426
Oh wow, I thought it would be close given how strong Tempest looked in that first game.
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>>177275650
She is way better now that she can be permanently invis. Can't die if they can't find you
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>>177278405
>leave game before you even play it because of autismo rage
>blame blizzard
O i laff
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next hero = Garrosh, multiclass

[YouTube] The Lord of the Rings - Isengard Theme (embed) [Embed] [Embed]
[YouTube] WoW Wrath of the Lich King - Warsong Hold (embed) [Embed] [Embed]
[YouTube] Garrosh Theme Music Patch 5.1 (embed) [Embed] [Embed]
[YouTube] Iron Docks Music - Warlords Of Draenor (embed) [Embed] [Embed]
[YouTube] Warlords of Draenor Music - Army Life (embed) [Embed] [Embed]
[YouTube] Cataclysm SoundTrack - Orgrimmar (embed) [Embed] [Embed]
[YouTube] Orgrimmar - Original Wow Music & Pictures (embed) [Embed] [Embed]
[YouTube] Heroes of Might and Magic III — Stronghold Town Theme Music (embed) [Embed] [Embed]
[YouTube] Warcraft 2 Soundtrack - Orc 02 (embed) [Embed] [Embed]
[YouTube] Warcraft 2 Soundtrack - Orc 01 (embed) [Embed] [Embed]
[YouTube] Warlords of Draenor Music - Warsong (embed) [Embed] [Embed]
[YouTube] Warlords of Draenor Music - The Clans Join (embed) [Embed] [Embed]
[YouTube] LOTR The Fellowship of the Ring - The Fighting Uruk-hai (embed) [Embed] [Embed]
[YouTube] LOTR - The Two Towers - Saruman's Speech (HD) (embed) [Embed] [Embed]
[YouTube] Summoning - Raising with the Battle Orcs (embed) [Embed] [Embed]
[YouTube] Burzum - Sverddans (embed) [Embed] [Embed]
[YouTube] Isengard - Storm of Evil (embed) [Embed] [Embed]
[YouTube] Isengard - vinterskugge (embed) [Embed] [Embed]
[YouTube] Summoning - Lugburz (embed) [Embed] [Embed]

[YouTube] Opки кaк иcтoчник мoтивaции (embed) [Embed] [Embed]
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>>177278605
>subject to 20 minutes of a guaranteed lost due to the matchmaking blizzard made pairing players with literal retards or dodge that shit
>do the latter
>get punished for it by blizzard even though you saved everyone a lot of time
Makes no sense to me.
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redhead ranger general best sylv
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>>177278931
>you got a really good draft getting some good heroes
>enemy autist leaves because assmad about picks on enemy team
>they don't get penalized for it and you just lost a pretty good chance at winning
????????
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>>177279074
Man I love Sylvanas but it feels so shit to play her. With Valeera I get 10+ kills every game and actually feel impactul and with A'noobA'rank it's just impossible to lose.
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plz report Noodle (rehgar) massive griefer on the loose
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>>177279557
wtf no i'm not
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>>177279557
build full Z no cleanse fucking retard, failed 5 ancestrals in a row, died 3 times dueling azmodan, get rooted even tho can dodge with dog movespeed yeah thx for game fucking iidiot
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>>177279341
>With Valeera I get to kill people by waiting till they have 30% HP while I jerk off in stealth mode
>With Sylv I can have decent dmg to get kills and be more helpful in general and I can split push/soak XP/get mercs like a boss

Truly tough choices for a brainlet
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>>177279893
>waiting till they have 30% HP while I jerk off in stealth mode
B R O N Z E
R
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https://www.varian.com/

Redefine your cancer fighting strategy
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>>177279989
>Playing stealthie to begin with
W O O D
O
O
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>>177279893
Val can kill Sylv from full health at any stage of the game 1v1 without any counterplay.
And the split push is my problem with her, sure it should be good but she just gets killed so easily while splitting. Sylv is a million times more effective with group pushes but those not happen that often. Not to mention that most maps care more about teamfights than sieging.
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>>177279893
is there photographic or video evidence of valeera jacking off? need to know 4 science
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>>177280153
lol ur trash kid
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i want sombra in hots she is my waifu
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>>177280403
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>>177280403
niggers go homeu
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>>177280172
>Val can kil Sylv
Irrelevant, we are not talking about 1x1, we are talking about value for the team by your logic Butcher should be tier S++ then

If you wanna be stealthie shitter Zera is still superior
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>>177279303
The likelihood of someone getting a good draft then ditching isn't nearly as common as needing to ditch from mentally handicapped monkeys picking shit like Raynor against an blind comp.
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>>177280515
>Being racist
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>>177280526
I think butcher is better than sylvanas too. And I'd say killing the enemy 10+ times plus all the cc you provide it's a pretty great value. Whereas all sylvanas can do on a perfect map for her is push an empty lane when others fight and maybe take a fort but just get picked off and killed 4/5 times.
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Do I use the skin that looks really cool but is the one everyone uses, or a slightly shittier skin that no one uses?
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>>177280695
>Caring what other people use
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>>177280682
>Missing my analogy completely and still comparing heroes like they are in a 1x1 fighter rumble arena
>Implying Sylv can't do damage or snipe people trying to flee with her Arrow ult
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>Reveal Zeratul before he gets in cleave range
>He still blinks on you
>He still bursts you
>He still blinks back out
I think the reason Zeratul is the best invis assassin is because they could probably take away his invis and he'd still be mostly fine
None of his kit actually synergises or relies too heavily on being invisible
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>>177280695
If you use the one everyone else uses then you'll be stuck in bronze league forever.

See, there's a hidden algorithm that favors people who pick the most aesthetic but also least pleb skins.
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>>177280172
>1v1 is an indication of how useful a hero is
unless you're comparing two characters who's sole purpose is to 1v1, this is irrelevant.

>sylvanas gets killed easily
not if you know what you're doing.
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>>177280848
thanks i was wondering why i was still in plat
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>>177280823
You said to compare values, I compared the values. They do different things sure, but what Sylv does doesn't look that impactful to me as what Val, Anub or the Butcher do.
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>>177280403
>More Overshit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdJC5gEfGNQ
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>>177280839
Honestly both Nova and Zeratul are the same in that their stealth is more a bonus rather than their whole kit. I always play them under the assumption that people can see me.
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>>177280682
Sylvanas is a very combat oriented specialist, if you manage to keep your distance by utilizing her teleport, you can do some serious damage, and escape safely.
She only dies easily if you don't move around and stay in one lane like a mindless brick.
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>>177280918
That was a response to him saying that val can only kill heroes on 30% health. Which is stupid, she can kill any non tank hero from a 100% 1v1, including Sylvanas who has 0 way to escape after getting silenced and combo'd.

Sylvanas can survive some ganks sure but if there's a high threat assassin in the game it just feels pointless to play her.
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>>177281171
There's still a lot of heroes that teamfight a lot better. Her main power is pushing but pushing now doesn't feel as relevant as teamfighting.
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>>177281142
>Effectively having no trait outside of bronze league
>A bonus
?
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>>177281054
eugenics could have prevented this
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>>177281382
Tbh I always sit in the bushes with stealth heroes too or position in a place where I don't need to move before the fight starts. Stealth is not bad, especially in teamfights where people don't pay that much attention but you can't just play it like a dota or league stealth hero and assume that you can run through a lane and not get seen.
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>>177281184
>Implying Valeera doesn't get raped and denied by a shitload of heroes
>Implying she can do anything to a hero, except if he is autistically alone without support from a single team mate
>Implying the kills she gets are so important another dmg dealer couldn't get if they were in her place
>Implying Sylv doesn't hold crazy value on certain maps and insane synergy with some heroes
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>>177281639
Now you're just being bitchy. I'm not saying you're not allowed to play sylv but I feel a lot more impactful when I play val or anub.
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>>177281558
That does not work. I was just in a game today with Nova on both times and every time that happened the other team pretended they didn't know she was there while slowly getting close enough to kill her. More importantly none of the stealth heroes are playing properly if they're jerking off in a bush waiting.
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>>177281142
Ya but Nova relies entirely on skillshots, has less health, no escapes, and her clones are braindead. Zeratul just has to get next to you to do his job, and having Blink is the entire reason he accomplishes that. Nova needs her stealth. Zeratul arguably doesnt.
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I wish there was a custom game mode that was specifically designed to let you practice skillshots, like an aim_ map
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>>177281809
It's a lot better than pacing back and forth all the time. No wonder you get seen like that.
Also you're supposed to play around the fog of war and get behind the enemy team to pick off their squishies anyways.
Sure stealth is not as strong as in other games but it can still be utilized well if you don't try to play a bruiser.
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>>177281925
Well I don't like playing Nova that much either, Zerathul and Valeera do their jobs better.
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>when I'm playing Judgement Tyrael and mechless D.va thinks she can just roll away
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>>177274285
Every single symmetrical multiplayer game balances toward 50%
The only exceptions are the extreme upper and lower echelons
I don't get how this is a complaint. Either git gud or fuck off and stop whining
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>>177278081
Nope, I'm retarded. Thought Greymane's numbers belonged to Anub'arak.
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>>177276313
I find the 7 kills li li weirder
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>>177282248
>fuck off and stop whining
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>>177282464
As a british person Tracer triggers me to no ends.
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>>177282248
>tfw 59% wr in both dota and hots
actually losing 50% or more of your games sounds boring
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Where the sissy boy support mains?
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>>177282578
its your own fault for talking so funny
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Are people pretending like Slyvanas has any use other than pushing with an objective?
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>>177282732
she would make a dominatrix
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>>177282732
Virgins think she is good because muh waifu.
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>>177282690
h-here~
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>>177282846
go on..
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has the chromie goblin drawing been finished yet?
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God, bless get rid of Hanamura. I can't stand this fucking trap of a fucking objective. I honestly fucking can't.
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Can Varian into Fury? Or is it really Protection only?
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Mebbe I die
Mebbe you die too
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>>177283396
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>>177283441
if anything you might have a game where you go smash
fury if you're bronze i guess
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>Alarak absolutely bonkers right now and will regularly get a good 20k more damage than the second highest
>Can still get him as last pick ranked and nobody is even thinking about banning him

Am I missing something here?
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>>177283441
Fury ia an AA spec. It's way too easy to fuck over AAers in this game, especially melee AAers. Spell damage has very few ways of being countered, therefor Arms is better almost always.
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>>177283629
People are retarded and think he's bad because you can try to dive past the entire enemy team and try to focus him.
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>>177283629
one kill and all his advantages are done. Nowhere near burst enough to combo kill squishies. No reliable escapes until level. Super susceptible to burst, best sadism build up talent is winmore
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>>177276313
because theyre used to games catering to how shit they are so nowadays everybody is full of themselves and are the bestest player around
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>>177283531
I just love his voice lines.
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Gazlowe is the best announcer. All others are just waifus/distorted voices with boring lines.
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>>177284574
Alarak would be the best Announcer, IF BLIZZARD WOULD MAKE IT.
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what is the correct build for nu-alarak
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>have 3 level advantage
>teammate dcs
>by the time he comes back, if he even does, the other team has 3 level advantage
this was the one thing this shit had over other mobas, and now it happens every other game
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>8/10 placement matches in solo league

>50/50

should I commit sudoku?
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>>177283441
Fury Varian is a weaker Butcher, but can solo every boss except for the Warhead Junction bosses. Arms is generally more consistent and has good burst and team synergy since it helps your team kill the target faster too. If you have a primary tank already, then going Arms is alright.
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>>177284931
I usually run something like this.

>BUT YOU GIVE UP SO MUCH SADISM

You'll get it all back if you play right.
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>decide to play qm with hammer
>other team get genji and li ming
Well fuck me for wanting to have fun I guess.
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>>177284712
He's expensive and probably has a busy schedule. I would be happy if they got Metzen to come in and do Varian and Thrall announcer packs.
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>>177284931
The big boy build is
>lightning quest
>discord strike quest
>applied force
>counter strike
>rites
>mocking strikes
>hasty bargain
But you can replace hasty bargain, rites and applied force with the other options if you find yourself dying a lot because 80% malice base is a rough deal
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>Purifier Beam stops tracking D.Va if you use it on her Mek and it dies
>She just walks away with the beam doing nothing
God damnit she gets worse and worse every game I play against her
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>>177285467
Just go first aid and shield and never siege in fight
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In order to try and retain the normiewatch players Blizzard is going to make the next 4 heroes OW characters.
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Wait Dryads dont have horns, only Keepers of the Grove have horns
Why does Lunara have horns?
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>>177286131
Wouldn't surprise me. Overwatch is a blizzard IP and has the fewest heroes in the game.
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tyrande heals now suck even more.
but still she's fucking fun to play

what to do?
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Posted this in the last thread without realizing there was a new post.

Does anyone have any tips for playing Zul'Jin? I've played a couple matches and his play style seems kind of fun but I'm all kinds of awful with him.

Right now I'm going:
You Want Axe?
Trolls Blood
Vicious Assault
Taz'Dingo
Forest Medicine
Ferocity
Armani Resilliance
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>>177286215
1st line daughter of cenarius
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>>177285429
>>177285770
i've been taking the lightning heal talent because it's pretty amazing sustain and helps me keep my sadism stacks

am i a fucking retard?
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>>177286215
deercock
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Is Zagara supposed to be bad? I mean I've gotten mvp and all using her, but I feel a lot of the cast can do in one attack what she does blowing all her non heroic cooldowns....
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>>177279557
>support
>griefer
lol must be new a new griefer then. who is expecting the support to do anything right anyway?

>>177286250
incorrect

>>177286294
probably just awful in general. keep playing auto attackers for a while whatever you do.
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>>177285840
We were fucked from the start.
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wud u fug britewing
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>>177286294
4. Let the Killing Begin
13. Eye of Zul'jun
16. Lacerate

One of Zul'jins biggest weakness is mobility. Eye and Lacerate give you the ability to chase. Let the Killing Begin pretty much guarantees you have decent attack speed even if you are near full health.
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>>177286294
Try with Morales
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>>177286471
>incorrect
Only if you include long dead ips
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Is auriel still good?
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>>177286294
That build works fine in QM because you're not guaranteed to have a healer, so your self-sustain is really important.
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>>177286717
Yes, you just need a good crown target for her.
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>>177286848
kk thx
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>>177286280
There's a stage of your development as a player at which you realize how vain hero league is, especially if you play it exclusively.
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>Dehaka perpetrating the generation-z kids with his "yaaaaas" line

Seriously blizzard?
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How do I play Azmodunk?
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>>177286436
The thing about alarak is that he has easy talents with little payoffs and hard talents with big ones
Sustaining power helps a lot with well, sustain but with the 20% lightning surge range you can get a substantial amount of healing back if you hit multiple heroes.
Reason why I called it the big boy build is because if you play to perfection with it you get a lot more, but playing to perfection is quite a lot to ask.

I'd say sustsining power is super weak though, and even not playing to perfection you get s lot more with the quest talent
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Holy shit.
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>got legendary scorpion lady skin
>still don't own her
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>>177286215
>Why does Lunara have horns?
Futa confirmed
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>>177287797
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>>177287950
all nelf girls are
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I wish heroes were cheaper. Literally all of the interesting ones are 10k.
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>>177288223
that pure feminine penis
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who is the best announcer pack
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>>177288450
D.va and Valla.
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>>177288439
lewd
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>>177286862
>Tyrande will never forcefully finger your sister while you watch
Existence is pain
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>>177288380
which ones do you find interesting anon?
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>EVERYTHING D.VA DOES INTERRUPTS YOU
>She does zero fucking damage
>Can wait until you nearly kill the mech to OUT-FUCKING-SKILLED and suicide it
>Then hop right back in a new one
>Rewarded for being a shitter and hurling yourself at the enemy willy-nilly with BETTER DAMAGE
>Heals back to full when she enters a mech, even if she had 5hp before hitting E
>INTERRUPTS EVERYTHING
>HER FUCKING Q IS BETTER THAN CHEN'S ULTIMATE
>Can just "Oh shit I'm getting out played! L-L-L-L-L-LATER NERDS! 나는 큰 똥 자식이다!"
God this gook slut pisses me off.

tl;dr WHITEMANE WHEN
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>>177288701
>tfw you see her have one tank charging to explode to do 50000000k damage while running around in another
yay new heroes
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>>177288496
>listening to D.va's voice lines
>she imitates the raven lord
I'm sold.
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>>177288450
My vote so far is Falstead and Tychus.

>Tychus when you destroy an enemy tower
>"Guess they wont need that little thing!"

I don't know, it just WORKS.
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Raven Lord or Grave Keeper?
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THERE GOES MY HERO
WATCH HIM AS HE GOES
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>>177289230
Outplayed.
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>>177273853
STOP POSTING GENERALS 20+ POSTS EARLY
>STOP CREATING NEW THREADS 20 POSTS EARLY
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>STOP CREATING NEW THREADS 20 POSTS EARLY
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>STOP CREATING NEW THREADS 20 POSTS EARLY
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>STOP CREATING NEW THREADS 20 POSTS EARLY

fuck off faggot OP
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>>177287574
You participate in most of the teamfights and splitpush with globe after getting lvl 10. Unless enemy team can delete you instantly you are a good meatshield with decent auto attacks and disposable grunts for catching skillshots. I almost always go for globe talents except for cheaper grunts talent at 4 which is too good to ignore and spam dunks at enemy team and minion waves to keep the pressure on. If you in qm and they have no healer you are golden.
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>>177288958
>Her mech counts as a partial death
>Just like TLV
>But doesnt trigger takedown quests
>And her Mek is considered a different entity than her because things that track the Mek dont track D.Va when she gets out
If youre going to give someone infinite health bars you better balance them accordingly and give them all the drawbacks that come with that
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>>177288450
Diablo is pretty good

Diablo
>A hero has returned, kill them!
>Lord of the storm!
>Another soul taken!
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>>177289419
what did he mean by this?
was it autism?
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>>177289230
>Either give up whatever objective the bomb is on or lose 80% of your hp
It does Gargantuan's job but 500x better because its range isnt the size of my dick. God damnit I hate this hero.
They made it a basic ability, they made it refresh her fucking Mek. God damnit she makes me cross.
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>>177289230
Overwatch was a mistake
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>>177289739
>Johanna has 2 stuns that could have stopped D.va from boosting in
>Sonya has 1 stun that could have stopped D.va from boosting in
>Genji could have Reflected the explosion into D.va's face
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>>177289576
It seems to be completely random because rites of rakshir doesn't reset until you kill dva even if you kill the next
Fucking blizzard
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>hots babbys can't handle dva
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>>177290263
>ten health bars
>and nothing else
sick hero
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>>177290263
D.Va is literally better in this game than her actual game.
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>>177289419
>STOP CREATING NEW THREADS 20 POSTS EARLY

why do ppl care about this?
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alarak is played by faggots
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When is my boy getting a rework? At least his shitty trait.
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>>177282690
>>177282998
>>177283396
>>177283293
>>177290481

being this gay should be banworthy
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>>177290171
Ya thats how I found out the Mek doesnt really count as a hero. You have to actually kill D.Va, so good fucking luck when she dies, BUT OH WAIT IT WAS NERF THIS, and then she gets back in the Mek again, does burnouts with her boosters all over your limp dick, and bunny hops off into the distance while you do 40 damage a hit to her.
Fuck D.Va. She's so fucking obnoxious.
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>>177286862
the fuck is a DD
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>>177290083
Ya that sure does stop that explosion
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>>177290616
>when people say Tyreal's trait doesn't make sense

>>177290724
Damage-dealer, probably.
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>>177290794
>d.va gets stopped at the bush
>don't have to worry about the bomb
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>>177278723
Wrong.
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>>177286280
I saw a guy with 1125. Nothing higher than that will impress me anymore.
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>>177290616
What if he had a talent that resurrected him when his trait went off instead of killing him? Like Uther's Redemption.
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>When your team literally only wants to teamfight (and lose them).
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>>177290724
The cup-size below Tyrande's.
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delete varian
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>>177290935
>autistic splitpusher won't admit when they are at fauly for losing a match
i laff
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>>177290935
>Plays a 4v5
>Wonders why he lost
You are the only constant.
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How the fuck did blizzard think warhead was a good idea for a map.

The amount of autism this map requires is incredible. It's so big and the split push / split engagements are retarded
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where are the hot pictures of tyrande
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>>177290935
t. murky
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>>177291106
>Enemy team consists of nothing but Specialists and warriors
>Can't contest nukes
>Can't outpush them
>Every camp is already captured 100% of the time
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>>177287797
He could've mastered a craft
He could've gotten a girlfriend

Instead he just spams Nazeebo in QM. What a sad life.
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how do i denny creeps
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>>177291339
>go to gank Zagara
>just just waddles into her worm vaginas and pushes the lane on the opposite side of the map
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Abathur buffs when
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>>177291667
Abathur is fine, you need to play better.
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>>177291578
>deal 10k worth of damage to Dehaka
>he has exhausted all of his healing, he's almost dead
>he fucking tunnels away and gets all his essence back from a big creep wave

ebin, simply ebin
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>>177291578
>go to gank dehaka alone
>can't kill him fuck
>gank dehaka with 2 people
>he brushwalks out because there's no way you can stun him enough to stop it
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>>177291478
By zoning enemy Heroes out of experience/soak range.

>let them push/clear the wave
>body tank in front, out of range of allied towers
>sit on mount or position self between allied minions and enemy hero

wah lah
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>murky announcer is legendary

fuck

OFF
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>>177291451
>Tfw you have a girlfriend and spam Nazeebo in QM some days too.

There's still hope for him. Granted I'm 850, but still.
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>>177290869
>Nobody was remotely near the bush
>They had no vision in the bush
D.Va apologists go and stay go
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Are the unranked players just flat out retarded?

Half of them don't go for objectives, and the other half just chase enemies until they die.
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>>177290083
>Just CC her
Nothing beside a targeted CC followed by a 4 man bodyblock can stop her from just walking to the objective and securing it with one press of a basic ability
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>>177290625
wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww cool it with the phobias ahmed
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>>177292142
Sounds like literally every mode, friend.
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>>177292142
This still happens in diamond/masters

experience does not fix stupidity
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>>177292231
>d.va does make it to the point
>everyone runs out
>Genji can stay in because Deflect, which will also kill Dva with the explosion damage

You'll notice in the video Genji fucked up big time by running away from the explosion when he should have been the one in there.
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>>177288450
B U T C H E R
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>>177292529
What if he did have the damage reflect talent? Given he still should have been in there.
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>>177292529
Watch again, he use reflect before she get out of the bush
Reflect isnt up, if he stay he die
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>valeera listed as hard difficulty

DUDE STUN OUT OF NOWHERE AND BLINK AWAY LMAO
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>>177292801
>blink
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D.Va's Mek is like making Murky's pufferfish 3x bigger and deadlier but then not making a way to destroy it while a little girl yells at you
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>>177292374
Like, quick match you can generally at least get decent people. Every match I've had in unranked has been with literally pants-on-head retarded. IE Support getting the most siege damage and second highest hero damage. (Li Li)
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Is Nazeebo the safest shitter carry pick? Nazeebo has: CC, damage, (some) self heal and pushing power
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What if Genji's reflect only deflected things in front of him?
What if Varian's did the same?
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Does blocking a player stop you from playing with them again? Stuck in 3 unranked in a row with the same shitter.
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>tfw screwing around in coop
>never met as braindead players
What the fuck is wrong with them, they have no map awareness at all and barely care about objectives, and yet they don't really need to because they win anyway
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>200k siege damage as xul
>20k exp contribution
>team engages enemy as soon as they have sight of any hero
>blames me for not doing the pub train with them on cursed hollow
The worst part is we had a dehaka that didn't know he had to push lanes/camp and use his Z to have actual map presence instead of running around with the team jerking off in the woods.
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>>177286451
Basically yes. She's fun, but everything she can do is outclassed by someone else.
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>hosty has to cheat in hearthstone and still sucks and loses
>is a """""""""""pro""""""""""" hots player

lelling at hots pro scene credibility
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Somebody once told me the world was gonna roll me
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So if I'm playing tyrael do I WANT to die at the start of a fight? Like if they focus me should I just accept it and blow up and do a million damage?

Or should I attempt to run away?
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what if genji didn't dash halfway across the map every 5 seconds
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>Warhead junction
>We've been dominating the entire map
>We have 2 nukes
>3rd nuke on the map
>The 2 of us nearby can't pick it up
>Defend it and ask the nearby Valla to come grab it
>They start doing camps
>Tell them to fucking come grab this shit
>They wander around a bit more
>Entire enemy team arrives with this slack as fuck Valla
>We get our shit pushed in
>Enemy gets 3 fucking nukes
>We almost lose the match.

Are Valla players clinically retarded?
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>>177294076
then more shitters would shit up the game with illidong
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When do I start playing HL?
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>>177294054
>enemy team goes to blow their load on you or teammate
>sanctification it
>speed up friends with Q
>shield them with W
>blow up on as many people as possible

>>177294076
then he'd be a useless feeder
as opposed to just useless
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>>177294341
>speed up friends with Q
meant to say E

also holy ground thing at 16 with Q

>>177294152
>watching a GM Valla vault into the vents on blackheart's bay with zero vision when we know the enemy team is turning in
>gets blown to tiny bits
>team???
Yes.
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>>177291717
My Abathur winrate is 66%.

Abathur buffs when
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>>177294271
When you can fill every role competently with at least 3 heroes each role and when you win most of your QM games.
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What is the best way to farm account exp to get chests and gold? QM/unranked? I've found some threads about afking in training, but enemy is now invulnerable unless you participate.
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>>177290828

It doesn't. Both thematically and functionality-wise. Why would you reward the divetank for dying?
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POST MORE HOTS MEMES
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Hey /hotsg/

What do you get when you put 2 teams full of heroes with extremely fast waveclear on Tomb of the Spider?

A 35 minute game
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giv kharazim build
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>>177295952
dmg
block
more dash
7
long punch
chopchop
way more dash
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is there a way to filter stats on hotslogs by region?
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>>177295125
Why is it so much more painful in HoTS when a game lasts longer than normal?
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Videogames are fuckin hard
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>>177296465
Constant fighting
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>>177296693
hi senpai
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>>177296693
>D.va and Varian vs no tank
Fair and balanced.
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>>177296465
because it becomes a real dota/league game
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>>177274352
I have abathur announcer and when you get the first kill he says "first biomass obtained"
It makes me smile
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>>177296235
thx
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how do I get good at Zagara? her guides are like 1 year old.
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>tfw tyrande sits on your face in your dreams
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>>177274352
does she punish you with her dick if you are doing poorly?
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>>177297246
teleport all over the damn map. thats what i do anyway
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>>177297246
Spread your D all over the map.
At 10 drop worms everywhere and push every lane at the same time.
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Have lost 8 out of 9 hl matches today, can you comfort me and tell me its going to be okay
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>tfw you wake up at 2;30 AM and just play HotS because you know you won't be able to fall asleep again tonight
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>>177297316
and then what happens?
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Just had an 8 minute game on hanamura which ended with a catapult ending it ask me anything
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>>177297923
BRAAAAAAAAP
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Uther is go........damn
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>>177297923
snu snu
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>>177286837
what would you recommend in HL?
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>>177298129
isn't go.....*

Now I'll be sent to the coal mines for bad memers
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>>177298160
You take the talents that actually contribute to your damage.
Though the one where you don't have to channel Regeneration is nice QoL.
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>>177298287
I read on Icyveins that the talent is bad because damage still removes the healing.

Completely ignores the fact that standing still for 4 seconds sucks dick in this game.
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>>177297539
Are you the guy that asks how big her dick is every thread?
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>>177274352
>Compliments me when I'm doing well, cheers me up when I die
Fug I have to get her now
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Way of Illusion or Way of Blade for Samuro?
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>>177298629
why, do you know the answer?
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>>177298578
I would recommend just using hotslogs to see what the latest builds for heroes are and then figuring them out yourself.

Heroes in hots aren't exactly hard, and guides become outdated quick.
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마땅히 복제할 팀원이 없어도 2라인 맵이면 최종진화를 찍어야 할까? 흉물진화를 차라리 찍을까?
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>>177298578
It can be nice because you can back off and pop it, then reengage while it is still healing you up.
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>>177296861
hey
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>>177298789
Impressive
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>>177298712
They both always have equal pick rates, but Way of Illusion usually has a higher winrate.

That said, I still like way of the blade so my illusions split push faster with the aoe auto attack
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>>177297923
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D85UY1oICxE
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>>177299064
yeah because higher skill samuros tend to choose it therefore skewing the win%
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I hate D.Va so much. Not because she's broken, but because she's so fucking annoying.

>Out of position? Lol free boost escape!
>Enemies attacking ? 10 billion health and a AA shield!
>Finally knocked out of the mech? Can almost immediately summon another!
>Want massive damage and an entire lane of the game blocked? Throw the mech. Get another one instantly!
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>>177297316
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>>177299064

I don't really get the difference between them. I see conflicting arguments between them all the time. In general, is it that WoI gives a powerspike in the mid-lategame while WoB is stronger early, drops, then powerspikes very lategame?
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>Tyrande's level 7 talent huntress' fury was a wave clear option for her
>before they put it on live they took away the wave clear and made it only chain to heroes
>they also nerfed the already small chaining radius by 33%
>now it's just an unpickable talent
>darnassian archery is just strictly a worse trueshot aura that only works for tyrande
>they nerfed starfall's radius
>they didn't note they also nerfed starfall's duration by 2 seconds
>they kept the CD of a very weak area denial the same while taking away the cd reduction it got from empower
You can go on and on about how they fucked up all these talents and abilities for Tyrande. It doesn't help that Tyrande has just become a win more hero with her heal, if you are winning the fight she can heal, if you are losing the fight she can't heal. I would say this is probably a worse rework than the nova rework, at least the numbers aren't anywhere near where they should be. The only reason to take tyrande is for her late game stun damage after getting a ton of stacks which is inconsistent at best
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BREAK BENEATH THE ENDLESS TIDE!
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>>177297593
>Spread your D all over the map.
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>>177298769
Yes.
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Who is the most fun character? My vote is tyrael

Nobody can go as hard as tyrael

Prove me wrong fags
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>>177299550
Don't forget her heal sucks dick now (heals her target less and doesn't heal her anymore) with a criminally long cooldown unless you can actually attack anything.
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>>177288450
LiLi's pretty nice
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>>177299907
Yep, I can go on and on about how terrible this rework is. You have virtually no talent options because most of the new talents are just terrible, other than the healing tiers at 4 and 16 your only talent choice is at 20. You have no ult options you have to go starfall, shadowstalk is a joke ultimate and her ults aren't even impactful until the 20 upgrade to starfall. Her healing is just straight worse even when you are constantly auto attacking except that she no longer suffers a 50% reduction when healing herself.

It's pretty frustrating how bad this is, it's like the devs don't even play this game.
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I'm glad tyrande is fucking shit because a 25% damage increase for her and her whole team on a single target for F O U R seconds is bullshit and I'm very happy we will be seeing less of this purple cunt

btw li-ming is the queen of the ass throne
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I do hope when they update Raynor they give him something more unique. His passive even says his aa range is 1 more than most ranged heroes, as if 5.5 range was still the widespread standard. 1 extra vision range is also worthless.
What if his gun had innate piercing, and would do reduced damage to things beyond the first person hit?
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>>177300198
not to mention they made her rely heavily on auto attacking while nerfing her auto attack
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Scrub who plays this game from time to time here, do I need to play ranked to get the raptor mount and how many matches on average do I need?
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>>177300414
>I'm very happy we will be seeing less of this purple cunt
You literally never saw her before this anyway.
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>>177300485
I wouldnt mind him doing that if he didnt have an auto attack ability

Instead his auto attack would be an ability that's channeled for 1.5 seconds
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>>177300767
>Not showing his lv on his profile

As leveling up Dva on that short period of time wasn't the proof you are a faglord with way too much time in your hands you need to make us sure
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>>177300414
>Asian
>Having an ass
Not even in your video games buddy
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>>177300548
10 matches on TL
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>>177300767
>nigger.va
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>>177300767
disgusting
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>>177301409
The correct term is D.ndu
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This is my Uther build:
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/uther#gTbU

Any recommendations? What should I get at 20?
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>>177301550
I fucking lost my shit, 10/10 anon
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>>177301213
Fuck guess I'll have to convince my friends to play TL
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LOL superstars

more liek superthrows
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I just learned that Benediction doesn't reduce Holy Light's cooldown for Uther if you use it as Holy Shock
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>>177301550
kekekekek
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>>177300198

I have a feeling that instead of buffing unusable talents at 1, 7, 10 and 13 they will just nerf the pickable (note not good but pickable) talents to try to give her build diversity because they fucked up so badly with her talents
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>>177301735
Almost always should get the revive talent. If you feel like people can protect you and you're not dying at all, get the double devotion. Because giving someone 50 armor is ridiculous. It's probably better if you take Silver hand though, stick with the revive.
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is it possible to get dva out of a lootbox? or are the newer heroes locked out so you are forced to spend gold on them?
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>Be Tyrael
>Hanamura
>Both cores at 1/1
>Our Valla RELENTLESSLY pinging our payload
>ignore her and try to go and stop the enemies, there's no point pushing ours when we're about to lose
>2v1, Morales and ETC
>stall for long as FUCK with shields and my invul ult
>die, blow up taking morales to an inch of her life
>Gul'Dan shows up and finishes her off, our Artanis comes and joins too
>while I was stalling Abathur was able to cap cart

most intense shit I tell you
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>>177302975
I hope you upvoted that slug.
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>>177302938
I wouldn't quote me on this, but I think as long as they cost 15,000 gold you can't get them out of loot boxes. I've gotten Zul and Auriel out of loot boxes.
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>>177303194
Oh yeah, I got Probius from a loot box too, but I already had him so free shards.
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>when an enemy fort is at 1% the whole game but your murky doesn't push it
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>Ping retreat
>team dives in
>ping go in
>team runs away
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>>177303067
yeah, abathur caps are always fun to see so I voted for him
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>>177290934
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>>177303776
>Teammate picks [anyone with an engage]
>Never has the balls to engage
Hmmmmmmmmmm
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>>177294890
He has almost no cc.

So tanks with cc usually have to have damage or a reason you don't want to kill them.
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>>177304323
>Teammate is Genji
>Always initiate with dash or x strike
Hmmmmmmm
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>>177303776

>get boss
>spam assist to push with boss
>no one pushes with boss
>our 20 seconds of doing boss is negated by their 20 seconds of responding to boss and it was all for no fucking reason
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>>177304323
>Swap someone big as Artanis
>Team either can't kill him or follow up the pick off
mmmmmmmH
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>>177304438
>doing boss for any reason other than to secure an objective before it spawns or because you just wiped them on boss pit anyways
I seriously hope you don't do this
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>>177304428
at 20 you get lowered cooldown on Xstrike per enemy hit
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>>177304438
To be fair, if the enemy is stomping you in teamfights, they probably still will when you push with boss. So you just take the boss so the enemy can't in that situation. I've seen it a few times.
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>>177304609

>using boss push to open up Keep win condition and potential core damage isn't a viable use for boss

top bronze
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What determines who gets captain?

Been playing like 80 HL games and have only gotten it once.
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>>177304438
I never get why people don't want to push with the boss. If it lets you get an objective while they're dealing with it, sure. But on Warhead there's almost no reason to NOT push with it.

>>177304672
Isn't it a good idea to try and support it to some degree so it'll at least get a keep? Even if you're behind. They can't ignore the boss entirely.
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I played Raynor for 2 games
The current game is not kind to him
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>>177304931
He needs an update. But I'm afraid they might fuck him up like they did Tyrande.
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>>177304871
Highest MMR, which is hidden.
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>>177305058
They fucked up Tyrande because she has an identity crisis going on. Raynor just needs an actual passive, maybe a improved W, and his Banshees to be better.
Why does he summons banshees anyways? They dont really seem his style. He needs some Hellions to be dropped down to burn some people up.
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post baddies to make yourself feel better about your rank

>1748 games as Raynor
>silver 1
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Does Lunara find it weird that human males want to fuck her deer pussy? Is it like a super turn on for her? Maybe it disgusts her because human dicks would never be big enough.
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>>177305818
My dick is pretty big so it would work
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>>177305818
I want to create the first half-nelf, half-human, half-deergod.
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Anyone want to party up?
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>>177306124
I hope you're ready for your kids to murder you.
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>>177306206
Thats only if you fuck a species known for being angry, bitchy, stuck up bitches and then your kids inherit that to become angry, marauding, bloodthirsty bastards.
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>>177305609
That's the saddest shit, probably always pick Raynor in HL.
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>>177305609
this match made me want to kill myself
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>>177306610
It hurts.

>>177306571
Hey, he's probably having fun. Anyways, picking Raynor every game isn't the reason he's Silver, if he played beyond placements, which may not be likely considering it's team league.
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>play unranked draft to practice flexing/counterpicking
>first pick 3 games in a row
why
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>>177306778
>Having fun playing a right click bot
At least play Zul'jin
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>hey friend wanna do our nexus challenge friday night/saturday morning
>sure thing
>wake up to do quests with friend
"Oh sorry mate I already did them"
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>greetexting outside 4chan

/hotsg/ please don't tell me you do this
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>>177306778
It stopped me from playing ranked for like a month. Then I pushed to 4 with artanis.

I don't even know how they made it there.
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>>177305609
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>>177307220
REKT
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>>177307372
>22-42
>win
And you're a falstad faggot too

God that map is so aids
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Delet Tyrande's rework
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>>177307652
i dont play falstad often. i only have him at level 7
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reminder alarak is so easy even a plasticbag 5 player like me can win as him
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I was curious if there's any place that will show me the best meta talent builds for each hero.
I'm kind of new to the game but have previous moba experiences.
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How do I actually get good at abathur?

I see other people play him and destroy me. When I try him, nothing goes well.
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>>177308667
icyveins and tentonhammer or whatever it's called
people will shit on them but they have good basic advice
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>>177308667
ice veins has pretty good builds for each hero and explanation on what builds you should take when

hotslogs also has talent winrate broken down for each hero in each tier
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>>177308667
no
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>Team drafted Chen and Stitches as main tanks in Battlefield of Eternity
Why are shitters such shit, /vg/?
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>>177308980
For some heroes there really is only one objectively good talent build. Like Jaina.
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>>177308980
>>177309014
Thank (You) very much, anons!
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>>177309185
>we need tank
>don't worry I got this senpai
>picks stitches against Sonya and Varian
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time to watch my boy kripp imprison some air
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>>177309185

that was me im so sorry
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>>177310071
It's okay, daddy.

God, if you were in the game, all that daddy shit made me wanna throw up but you gotta keep the meme going.
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>tired of seeing no one pick tyrande in masters because I want to see if she is any good at all in hl
>pick her myself
>next person picking says "well since we are doing shit troll pick now"
>picks murky
>just afk pushes a lane the rest of the game until we lose
I know she is probably weak but you don't need to throw the game when someone picks her
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>>177310250
You weren't the only support right?

I mean, you're masters so I shouldn't have to ask, right?
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>>177310331
No we had an uther so I thought it would be fine to combo with him, it's really hard to actually get a chance to pick her.
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Is the Hunter's Mark applied by Tyrande's lvl 20 Starfall talented?
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Holy shit, what's with her face?
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>>177310414
Guess he just got butthurt for no reason.
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>>177310414
he was probably tied of losing with her on his team she went down like 10% wr in masters like immediately she is the worst support currently
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>>177310548
You mean people don't pick her as an off-support?
Are we talking about actual Master players or boosted trash?
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>>177310458
>her
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>>177310458
thats a boy
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>>177310653
How exactly do you get boosted to master's?

Luck in placements can only get you so far.
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>>177310653
you always pick her as an off support now but you are still down a player since her damage and healing are shit uther and rehgar can hit harder than her and have useful ults tyrande is just there for the owl vision and her d
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l-lewd
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>play team ranked with friend for raptor
>placements
>first pick chogall on enemy team
>pick leoric and butcher
>win game
>get sylvanas on hanamura and bounce from top to bottom as a deathball and take all 4 forts
>win game
>7 game winstreak later
the saddest part is that I have a huge suspicion that we just started off in like silver or some dumb shit so even if we complete placements with 10 wins we'll only get in like gold

either way these games are hilariously stupid
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>Greymane's default skins are his best ones

feels mildly bad
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>>177307220
>Normie blizzshitter '''''''''friend''''''''''' of mine
>''hey man I need the nexus challenge, can you do with me?''
>Don't worry bud the week only rotates on Tuesday
>''Okay we gonna do it on Tuesday morning then''
>Don't show up on purpose
>''WTF DUDE''
>Sorry man I got hella sick, but I swear this week we gonna do it asap
>''ok then, get better''

Heh, little does he know
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>>177310997
I think li-ming's default skin and tint are the best, not to say her other skins are bad, but her base skin is too good.
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How do I greymane?
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>>177311129
I love her lunar skin but after 2.0 they jewed out and made it a seasonal thing

would have bought it if I knew that
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>>177311129
yeah, her others add some dumb headwear, her volleyball skins is decent at least but I still like her default look more
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>>177310947
Pay somebody to rank for you or leave your account to somebody you know.
Is this really new to you?
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>>177311129
>Sailor Moon and Volleyball avaiable, they are not even legendary so you can get them easily
>Plays with vanilla

We get it anon, you either don't have them, or you have a untreatable case of shit taste
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>>177311168
Know when to dive instead of range poking

Far too many greymanes shift to worgen as soon as a fight starts
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>People who only push autistically alone the entire game
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>>177311339
>starsailor skin
>good
anon...
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>>177311168
Q, Q, Q, Flex, Better Range, Giant Killer or Executioner, Flex

His Q is great for big splash poke that hits everybody, his dive is versatile in that it makes him able to either be more survivable in lane, get a sudden kill against someone who really should have turned around two seconds ago, or to fuck up enemies who dive your backline, his ulti is based on how many fatties and how many squishies the enemy has, and his 16 is based on how many disables your team has.
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>>177311478
>Talking shit about Sailor Moon
Your life is not worth what you poop
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>>177311614
Sailor Moon anime is 90% shit
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Thank goodness they nerfed her worst talent at 7 before it went live, I think like 3 people picked it on accident on the ptr
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What's Alarak's best build now a days?
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>>177311325
Yeah, not really privy on the forms of cheating.
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>>177311851
No way Blizzard in-house tested the new Tyrande with players more skilled than platfags.
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>>177311475
>people who only chase kills like retards and then we get behind in XP and our base shat on
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>>177312284
Reminds me of how a lot of Riot employees are either bronze or silver shitters.
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>>177311851
That talent was also splashing to minions so you could use it to wave clear on the ptr, that actually made the level 1 hunter's mark quest better if you needed wave clear. Then they had it chain only to heroes and mercs so it's terrible. Now there is never a point to taking that especially since heroes need to be on top of each other for it to even hit them and her aa damage low as fuck so it wouldn't even matter
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>>177311614
it'd be a good skin except for the fucking enormous crown that just looks stupid

also not really a fan of her hair, don't know why they didn't just give her twintails like usagi
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is d.va any good
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>>177313197
below average but not awful

arthas and anub are still king shits of tankersville
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>>177312284
new tyrande is fucking disgusting

I usualyly end up top damage somehow I dont even know what the fuck its coming from
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>>177313321
you are fighting bronze level players who let you stand there and auto attack to get your darnassian archery stacks high then sometimes you go owl build and think you did a lot of damage when it was just ineffectual owl damage which you got a lot more of before the change
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I love banning abathur before some faggot picks him
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just got this badass, how should I build him to be the most annoying tryhard in Hots?
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>>177313675
Invul talent and taunt. Enjoy the free wins
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>>177313675
W and taunt build

enjoy being literally unkillable while having point and delete CC 4 times a minute
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>>177313470
It's usually owl build a lot of these shitters pick and then look at there hero damage at the end of the game "wow tyrande does so much damage now!" but they've also never played Tyrande's owl build before this patch so they have no idea how much hero damage it did, while actually being useful in team fights because of the cdr
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>>177301206
Twerking is for apes and is disgusting.
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>>177313195
It is a good skin nigger, its not because a few bad things you gonna use fucking vanilla instead of this, specially with custom animations
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Are there restrictions for enemy vision on Probius's pilons? Like whenever I'm facing a Probius, his pilons don't just show up. When I am playing him it's like enemies have a system lazer showing them its exact location.
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>tfw that one nigger who is clearly a shitter picking the worst possible talents is killing you left and right

FUCKING NAGGER, DIE ALREADYY
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>>177313195
>twintails
SCHWARBAGE
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>>177307220
I currently have 1 win and 3 losses in my HL placement games what's the highest rank I can get if I manage to win the 6 remaining matches?
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>>177280938
Don't even try to climb. If you are not vastly superior to the other players you'll never advance.
Ranked is designed to keep you playing by giving you 50% win rate.
If you care about the mount, complete the team league placements and never play hero league.
Boycott this until they fix it.
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>tfw kripp is smart and skilled in HS, Diablo and PoE
>Is a complete retard on hots
I know he is just getting started, but he should know the concept of teamplay, objetive and staying with your team better
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Bets?
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Quick give me a thrall build im in draft
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>>177314959
if varian goes taunt there's no reason you should lose
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>>177314310
If they spot it once it will stay on their screen even when it's in the fog. It will also stay on their screen if it gets removed by you placing a new pylon. Also if you use the pylon ulti they will be revealed when they take a shot at someone
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>>177314863
>RUNNING FROM his own payload
>camping enemy's even when 4/5 of their team are dead
rage inducing at times, but fun to watch overall
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>>177314994
Just go for E
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>>177314863
Kripp and many others can't play skill based pvp because they wouldn't be able to blame luck and have their useless egos broken.
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>>177314959
Blue
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>>177286525
Who would say no.
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>>177314994
lightning
lightning
follow through
either (depends on map)
windfury
windfury or chain lightning if they have a lot of ranged
i go nexus blades but if you took EQ take the shields
t. master thrall ;)
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Why does fury Varian have a higher winrate than prot Varian?
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>>177314863
>skilled
>in HS, Diablo and PoE
>implying these games require skill
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>>177313470
>am diamond
lol
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>>177314994
>>177315143
also if there's a ton of team fighting i go giant killer instead of WF at 13
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>stop quick meme
>HL is so much better
nice meme /hotsg/

these dipshits dont even know what soak is, let alone there is 100% more whiny faggots in HL
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>>177314997
>>177315096
Varian went CS and it worked out. I ended up on waveclear duty since I was the only one responding to Azmo's constant pushing.
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>>177315076
>Someone who beat Diablo 3 hardcore pre-nerf
>Created builds that were nerfed to oblivion on PoE
>Can't play HOTS

Anyone can be decent at this game given time the skill gap isn't really that high, if Kripp really wants he can become decent in 1-2 weeks, the concept of the game is pretty simple and mechanically there isn't a lot more than understand your rotation/abilities and movement
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F2P valeera is the worst
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>>177315194
say that about HS, sure, but he's legitimately very good at diablo (and was good at WoW back then)
never played PoE but i hear he's good
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>>177314863
he doesn't give a shit

he's doing it to get the card back and he's back to lifeless hearthstone.

i dont blame him, he is making bank in that shit game
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>>177315201
>diamond
>doesn't even know how he is doing damage
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>>177315353
the game is so fucking easy I it doesn't make sense to me
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>>177315335
Diablo and PoE are all about your build and gear. HotS being pvp already makes it require more skill
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>>177293440
Nope, you'll just won't receive messages from them anymore.
The best way to avoid a bad player is to wait after the game ends looking at their status, once they are in another game you can queue again.
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>>177315402
if you don't know where your damage is coming from in a game this easy you are a retard
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>>177297712
>Playing on a weekend.
You have only yourself to blame.
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>>177315418
yes but he comes up with builds for both. and call it gear all you want but being the world first diablo prenerf kill is impressive
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>>177315418
>Diablo is all about your gear because its PvE
So Dark Souls isn't skillful because its PvE too?
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>>177315248
For me, Unranked > GM > HL.

Never tried Team League but I assume it's more of the same HL autism. The quality of player is about the same in unranked as GM, but you don't have to deal with #epic blizzard hero matchmaking.
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>>177315469
I dont do the retard owl build or retard hunter mark build
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>>177315609
rolling is hard am I right?
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>>177315609
I've played diablo, there is no mechanical skill there unless you are legally retarded
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>>177315678
then your teammates are absolute shitters tyrande should never out damage assassins with anything other than owl build spamming you are obviously playing in bronze
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>>177305290
>Make mm based on mmr
>Proceed to hide it.
Well done, blizzard.
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>>177315650
problem with unranked is people draft meme shit constantly
>solo heal tyrande
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>>177315779
but I'm not playing in bronze
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>>177315785
Don't forget it's also broken because it's individual mmr in a team game
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>>177315867
i'm sure
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>>177306610
>Kerrigan and Tychus feed.
Yet no punishment will befall them, but if you dare call them feeders you'll be silenced :)
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>>177315910
but I'm not playing in bronze
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What should I take as a level 1 Talent for Zul'jin?
Joo want Axe? is pretty good but Boneslicer is convenient from the moment the match starts.
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>tfw demotion game
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>>177315695
He played Diablo pre-nerf, nobody was able to beat that before

>>177315694
Oh, you are just retarded, I'm so sorry
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>>177312464
hahahaha
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Why guldan is allowed to exist in his current form is beyond me
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>>177316161
>implying he did it solo
When you have a group helping you get gear and finding exploits it's going to be a lot easier
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>>177316161
>dark souls is hard xd

Oh, you're just retarded, I'm so sorry!
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>Decide to look at the Cavs game score before going to bed.

No matter how bad you do in Hots remember, you aren't the Celtics.
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What situations is Medivh good in? I'm having a lot of fun with him in qm but don't know where he fits in draft
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>>177316372
>i post on /hotsg/ so much that i'm gonna start blogging there and claim it's relevant
don't do this, anon. i know that feel. be more self-aware
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>>177316372
>niggerball
kys
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>>177316269
Wait, you are implying Kripp has NO skill and just got carried? he actually got hardcarried and all his fans and enthusiasts from Diablo 3 who follow him to this very day are stupid fucks, but YOU can see he is so bad and got carried when you pratically never even played D3 Pre-nerf let alone followed the scene?
LMAO

>>177316310
>PvE is easy because you face bots! - Hots shitter 2017
Bullshit
Autism
Ignorance
Trash
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>>177316531
>smug animu girl

Classic dark souls fag.
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>>177316531
I never said he is bad, I just said there is very little skill to be had in Diablo. I also played at launch so I know what it was like

Now take a look at how pathetic you look like defending some guy you don't even know
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>>177316752
I am defending him not because I really give a shit about him, but trying to pass him as completely shit incapable of learning hots and trying to say his achievements are meaningless is just bullshit, pure Feels > Reals, he is a vegan cunt who makes a shitload of money from autists dumb enough to pay and watch him religiously play card games but he has his skills in vidya

>>177316717
Sorry I don't speak retard
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>>177317126
You do because you think dark souls is hard lmao.
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So when are they going to reuse the mecha spider animation for another spider mount?
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>>177317126
>caring this much about some streamer
This site is for 18+ year olds
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>>177317126
rando chiming in here. his accomplishment in D3 hc inferno isn't that amazing because of the fact if him and the dude he did it with were close to dying, they used a bug which got patched out to disconnect so they could never die.

he does have skill though obviously as he played poe/wow/diablo at a decent skill level
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>>177315794
I'll take intentional memedrafts over randomly cobbled meme setups the QM system likes to put together.
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>>177316159
>tfw bronze 5 with lit 0 points after so many lose
>only came back to the game to play ranked
>it only takes one retard on your team for match to go wrong

well guess it's time to uninstall this game isn't for me
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What should I buy (with gems)?

>The Butcher
>Zeratul
>DVA
>Wait for something decent to go on sale
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>>177304931
He needs a talent that makes him ignore and the shields, dodges,protected and parries we got recently
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>>177311486
The question I always wanted to know the answer to:
if you are pushing an lane with no enemy hero in it, do you do it in worgen form so you can dash out if you get ganked?
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>>177317736
You do it in worgen form because it's faster that way
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>>177317679
y-you don't like the new meta we are making at blizzard?

Maybe if we just remove minions and buildings, and make the gamemodes capture the point and payload. And then change the camera to first person.
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>>177317379
>get btfo in an argument
>instead of just stfu they keep replying resorting to low quality shitpost to defend their anonymous reputation on a chinese imageboard and protect their fragile little ego
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>>177315785
because having visible mmr makes dumb people angry i guess

so the actual matchmaking uses mmr but there's a ranking system with promotion matches and shit just to keep the plebs content, because "wow i ranked up from silver to gold" feels more fun than "wow i went up from N to N+25 MMR"
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why is zeratul so op


>can do half or more of my HP
>invisible all the time
>if i see his blur it's not like I can really do anything because he has decent hp and can freeze me
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>overwatch shitters can't help but feed in lane repeatedly
>so they add in a hero that has endless health bars plus a massive speed boost so they're never going to die ever

whoopee
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>>177317503
Dont i was silver 5 now im plat 5
won the demotion game btw
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>>177317870
>get btfo in an argument
>insteaf of just stfu he keep posting anime pictures

epic my 9gga friend.
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>>177318003
dont say things like that
anon is in denial about his own low skill so he is trying to push the blame for all his losses off on his teammates

if you make him realize it's actually his own fault for not gitgudding his fragile ego might shatter and he'll kys himself
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>>177317870
Why don't you go donate some money to Kripp and ask senpai to notice you
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>enemies try to mocus forales
>activate frozen tempest
>outdamage their entire team by standing near them as they desperately chase her in circles
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>>177318079
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>>177318245
Are you mad anon?
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>>177318245
Posting a picture of yourself? What are you trying to say?
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>You can have only 1 support and still play Hero League
Blizzard what the fuck
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dude let's give D.va a second healthbar even though we removed Tychus' when he activated his Heroic because it was too strong lmao
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>>177318456
the only requirement is 15 level 5 heroes available, isn't it?
you could have 0 supports
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new uther is pretty fuckin fun

finally a support im not bored of
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>>177318571
Blizzard what are you doing.

Blizzard this isn't quite right.
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>>177318173

This is why "focus morales" shitters are such a laughing stock. Or "focus" any hero for that matter.
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>lose literally all of my placement matches
>still place in Platinum 1

???
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>>177318456
i only play one support and it's kharazim
but i play TL so one of my friends can do that
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>pick xul and like him a lot for some reason even though he's kind of boring
>continue picking xul and consciously notice how nice his voice and lines are
>suddenly realize he sounds a lot like the diablo 2 necromancer and his lines are pretty much dead on for the d2 necro
>find out it's the same VA

Even if the kit isn't that exciting the nostalgia Xul provides is incredible
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>>177318493
she's fine
pilot hp should probably not reset thou
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>>177319023
She can deny you your rightful exp by ejecting when the mech has 1 HP left
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>>177318158
Not the best player but I usually have one or two death per game while my team mate have five to eight by late game and even to a beginner like me I know what over extendeding and chasing for a kill could mean if the enemy team catches me so I tend to avoid it. If I know 100% i can secure a kill I won't dive for it. Yes I know that I suck at the game just started playing since 2.0 came out and only have 320 games total.
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>>177319428
ye no shit that's the whole gimmick, and if you burn her again her E charge is at 30% unless she gets healed so pilot d.va is a sitting duck
If you account for two mechs and a pilot she has roughly 3k more hp than a fully stacked diablo with not even half the utility
What I am saying is that once you damage the pilot her hp shouldn't be magically refilled once you see her again

She starts to get bullshit with big shot and pew pew pew
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Is the d.va main menu really that low quality or have a missed an option somewhere?
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>make a massive turnaround as Stitches once my team gets to 10 after being repeatedly shitfucked by Genji and Alarak
>Gorge basically on cooldown, hook their only healer multiple times and eat them
>MVP
>our Morales gets all the votes

feels bad
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lets gooooooo

potato and salt? this has to be good legendary
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>>177320840
Darth Leoric
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leroy jenkins when
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>>177320840
>ugly legendary horse
or
>murkshit announcer
or
>probius
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>>177320427
I think the HotS team secretly hates the Overwatch team.
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>>177321060
>>177321119
>ugly legendary horse
FUCK
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So I downloaded the game again because the bundle is free and why not, I can stop playing dota for a week.

What is wrong with the queue times? 5 minutes and I still havent found a single game.
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>>177321418
breh queue times are like 10 seconds in QM, 30 in Unranked draft and 2minutes at most in ranked.

You may have to refresh your queue if it's not popping, cancel and requeue should fix it.
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>team actually communicates and does fucking WORK
feels so good lads
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>>177321897
>team actually wins

sasuga blizzard
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>>177315137
wtf she's like naked and shit
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How the fuck do you play Rehgar?
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Why is brewmaster never picked? Is primal split not good anymore?
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>>177322301
He's like Kharazim, you go ham. Pick the double lightning shield talent and put it on a tank or melee creep/totem, then wolf form in for sick dps. Don't play him if you're a pussy bitch.
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>it's a butcher charges in 1v5 game
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>>177321418
I had the same issue because for some reason I hadn't downloaded everything when I launched. A restart fixed it
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>ragnaros is sitting in a lane attacking minions during team fight
>ragnaros is literally next to a team fight attacking minions
>down by 2 levels and the team is calling ragnaros a retard? Well guess it's time to start suiciding in to the enemy team
It's shocking how common this is.
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>tfw got morales in pity chest
All is good
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>It's a medivh portals into their team and feeds then blames the team game
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>>177322835
In my opinion this is common in any online game, and mostly in mobas.

People have a specific mindset of what is right and what is wrong, and on top of that a lot of people are not gaming as seriously as you, they're fooling with their cellphone or alt doing shit on a second monitor. There's no way to prevent this, you can only endure the pain, or start adding people you like to friends and try to communicate as much as possible preferably through voice chat. Not everyone is on the same page as you and sadly the game doesn't have a mind reading function.

If all you do is wait for people to do what you want, and then call them retards and niggers, you're just gonna get reported and get a global mute even if you're a great player and you were carrying your team most of the time.
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Why is Illidan so bad? In all of the matches I've played against him I have never once felt threatened by his presence.
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>>177322835
>random teamfight because you noobs just met in a bush
>absolutely pointless
>kawaii rag tries to get his team to lvl 10 for the next objective
>WTF RTARD ITS TEAMFIGHT !

makes you think
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Do I ever get to play on a map thats not Cursed Hollow? I remember playing on tons of maps before this 2.0 shit but I've had 6 games in a row on there trying this nexus shit with my friend.
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>>177323372
If your friend is new you're playing in the kiddie pool with him
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>>177323372

New players only play on Cursed Hollow for a few levels. If he's new that would be why.
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>>177323518
>>177323525
Do you know what level the cutoff is?
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>>177323557
No clue. Me and my friend got Braxis after like 5 or something Cursed Hollow matches.
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>>177323557
level 20 or so
t. me
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How is Ley Line Seal ever better than shooting off Polybombs every 40 seconds, like in the time you've gotten one good ley line you could've had several good polybombs

even then getting a good ley line doesn't seem that good except for stealing camps/objectives
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>>177323912
You cant steal a boss(or any merc) ALONE with poly
tldr good if your team is retards
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>tfw just played against a really cancerous valeera

i think i'm done for the night. i need at least an hour to cool off
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>>177323198

Illidan is one of the best assassins in the game, imho. I'd comfortably put him in top 5. Extremely versatile. The people you're playing against are probably just bad with him.
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>2nd anniversary
>we get a spray
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Was trysor boofed? I see her in literally every qm
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>>177322126
Pole dancing with clothes on is uncomfortable. She's also a faerie dragon and they rarely if ever wear clothes.
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>>177323315
>level 12
>ragnaros literally just attack moving down a lane
>meanwhile enemy team is level 14
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>>177323198
>Why is Illidan so bad
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I want to buy a stealth hero, lads.

Valeera or Zeratul?
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>>177324745
Zeratul. His chasegame let you think you are Michael Myers.
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STOP CONTESTING THE FIRST PAYLOAD YOU INEBRIATED MONGRELS
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>>177300767
I'd fuck her, mebbe my fav skin of her
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>>177324729
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>normally can't stand those EPIC GAMING MOMENTS youtube channels cause it's generally annoying reddit shit with bad memes
>have now watched like 20 of the "wtf moments hots"

my self hatred knows no bounds
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>>177324170
Poor little anon, don't worry, one day you will grow up and learn to spot shimmers.
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>team is me (valla, dead), arthas, nazeebo, tyrande, lucio
>immortals map
>we wipe the enemy team except for chromie while they're trying to kill our immortal, i'm the only one that dies
>our immortal is at 50%, theirs at 100%
>if we get it we will take the last enemy fort, if they get it they'll take ours
>we have 4 heroes up against ONE FUCKING CHROMIE
>nazeebo hearths back to base at full HP to depush a few catapults that would have been killed by creeps anyway
>the remaining three teammates cannot kill the immortal in 50 seconds before the enemy team respawns because they're busy getting baited and kited by this fucking piece of shit dragon
>enemy team respawns
>kills our immortal, wipes out our base

it was a 4 stack, too.

just fucking kill me lads.
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whats the quick rundown on dva build
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>>177274762
It was inevitable after they guttered Kharazim a few months ago because he did "too much damage".

The dev notes were so infuriating.
>"Haha it's nice that people noticed Kharazim damage build is viable, so we don't feel bad nerfing it now."
Like, fuck you too, assholes.
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>>177325447
>me (valla, dead)
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>>177325589
The leet way is to go full pilot with gg for stupid damage and use the mech calldown as escape
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>>177325862
Considering how much damage he does now he must have been pretty OP.
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>>177325928
If he was OP, I wouldn't be mad. He was still a situational pick but now he's just worthless and there's always a better support for what few niches he has.
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>>177310418
Yes. If you have fast AAs like Tychus, Zarya or Tracer? Pick Mark of Mending, that shit is hilarious.
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>>177325862
Blizzard patch notes are always pretentious bullshit
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>>177326064
He's still one of the best tank killers in the game.
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>>177326190
with an ult that is "lul how is it real just walk away" tier
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>>177326135
I see you've never read riots.
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>>177326238
I get the feeling you are just bad with him and needed the crutch of crazy damage.
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usually when a new hero is release it is impossible to qm for two weeks without the hero being on both teams, yet i havent seen a single dva toady, is she really that bad?
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>>177326398
>tfw always get put up against her when playing a mage
>she fucking recks mages
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>>177326398
Probably more then half the games I've played since she was added had at least 1 d.va in it.
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>>177326398
overwatch hero design

they're extremely easy to be shit with except lucio
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>>177326398
No one likes dva outside of a very loud minority of pathetic waifufags.

I still remember Sylvanas release. That was like two weeks minimum of Sylvanas in every game.
>tfw no envenom
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what happens if someone picks Cho and then you ban out Gall or just dont pick him?
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>>177326520
She's a tank and a mediocre one at that. Why play her when you can just play anub? If she was a bruiser she'd be in almost every match.
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>>177326612
you can't if you pick cho someone else has to pick gall and then he is skipped
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i hate Medivh so much

utterly the most infuriating hero to play against

remove this sick filth
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>tyrande picks shadowstalk
>suddenly we are at a disadvantage because we are down an ultimate
>lose because it does literally nothing and her autos do no damage
why does blizzard put trick ultimates in the game? what is even the point other than to get people to accidentally click on them, just give the hero one ult if you can't give them two pickable ones
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>>177326612
You either pick both at the same time or don't.
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>korean playoffs
>4k viewers
dead game
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>>177326734
You think thats annoying? You should imagine what the enemy team last game I played felt when I kept shielding a varian and giving him portals in and out of fights.
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>>177326612
you can only pick chogall when your team has 2 back-to-back picks in the pick order
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>>177326886
blizzard just can't balance talents at all
every hero has at least one tier where one of the talents is 90%+ pickrate
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>>177326913
That's what happens when the matchmaking forces you to lose to retain a 50% win rate.
The few people you've gathered leave.
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Is it just me or is xul garbage? Is his only strength clearing minions and thats it, because everytime i play him his health and damage are insanely underwhelming.
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>>177327275
this is literally a game about clearing minion waves and going to the objectives
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>>177326886
For the rework they seemed to want to add a lot of talents that are just bad. Darnassian Archery stacking 5% makes people say "dude, if I attack heroes 100x in a row I will be doing 500% AA damage! that's like 500 damage per auto!", in reality trueshot aura is better in every situation. Since owl build is not good the 4 second reduction talent is far worse than the mini shrink ray on owl. Since owl build is bad the owl quest is bad as it only just pads your damage when you are throwing owls from across the map to hit heroes with no follow up. The hunter's mark quest is bad too "I could have 8 seconds on my hunters mark after I hit heroes 240 times with auto attacks!" when a target should be dead in the time you mark them anyway.

>>177327003
This
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>>177327275
The SPECIALIST label means that you pick him to clear minions and push towers, not a-click down the lane. Sorry.
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am I just really bad or is kerrigan a little bit shit compared to most assassins?
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>>177327403
sorry just assumed that the character could take on something more than a minion but he cant do shit
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>Just won on Haunted Mines by not giving a shit about the mines and just pushing 1 lane at a time.

Does this shit work outside of qm?
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>>177327465
And when Blizzard said he was the D2 Necromancer, we actually expected him to be a real D2 skellymancer but sadly life is full of disappointments for all of /hotsg/.

Eventually, constant exposure to disappointment numbs the pain as you get used to it.
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>>177327426

she's one of the strongest early and mid game heroes but falls off pretty noticeably lategame. she still has good cc but her killing power wanes so if your team doesnt take advantage of your plays you're just basically playing 4v5
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>>177327467
Mines you can just go around taking the camps a bunch especially when people are in the mines and win. PvE when you do it right is strong as fuck in this game
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>>177327467
Depends on your rank.
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>>177327275
Poison nova and bone prison.That's all he does in team fights. Specialists tend to be lane pushers.
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>>177326895
>>177326943
makes sense. thanks
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>>177327540
that's what I thought, even if I hit everything I probably won't kill anything without some follow up
but I still feel like she should get some reworks or idk
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>>177327467
The first 5-6 golems are weak enough so that if you have a team that sucks at teamfighting (or retards feeding non-stop), then it's more effective to just push lanes while nobody's defending.

You could feed 3-5 deaths, get like 80-20 on skulls, and lose a fort, or you could get a fort, get like 90-10 on skulls, and lose a fort.

I try to show up for the first set of mines or two until it seems like the team is just going to feed non-stop. Then I just fuck off.
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>try kael
>oom in 3 casts

cool
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>>177327741
just spam free bomb
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Speaking of specialists why the hell is nazeebo considered a specialist?
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>mines
>raynor dies to fucking creeps and doesn't know when to hearth
>alarak stays in lanes and soaks xp while everyone else dies in mines
>bad engagements all around
At least valeera was good, but cmon I haven't seen a match this bad in ages, and we even managed to make a small comeback but the lacking teamwork just killed any chance of winning the moment the game started.
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>D2 Necromancers are skinny, pasty fucks based around wands, curses, summoning skeletons and golems to assist in combat, bone-based projectile conjurations, exploding corpses, and heavy poison
>Xul is a ripped biker with a scythe who summons infant's skeletons to assist him in punching buildings
Why is Bone Spear a talent? Did the devs even look at how the Necromancer was played?
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>>177327893
maybe he did too many deadlifts
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>>177327825
because he's good at pushing and hitting buildings

specialist means either push/siege hero or gimmick hero
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>Getting an enemy team you can pick superstition into as Nazeebo
>The Alarak even put his mark on me like I gave a shit about his trifling ass
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>>177327959
heh
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>>177328029

totally depends on how good gul'dan and kael are.

i'll give advantage to blue because red has no answer for chen and malf is stronger than lili
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>Lost on Hanamura because retards started a boss fight, won the subsequent team fight on the bosses corpse but didn't stand on the fucking pad and let the enemy cap
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>>177328029
Red
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Why did they nerf/change "Come to Mama"?


She didn't push as hard as Azmodan and Murky and Thrall/Sonya/Alarak do way more dmg/have more sustain?
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>>177328450
Moving away from/killing the Hydralisk was too hard for HotS players.
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>>177328423
Stop playing (((HotS)))
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>>177328029
blue
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>>177327825
>>177327987
>Nazeebo
>good at killing buildings
He's good at killing the waves, which in turn damages towers. There are actually very few Specialists who actually do extra damage to buildings proper instead of purely killing minion waves and camps quickly.

Murky
Xul
Nazeebo
Medivh
Samuro
etc.
don't directly shit on buildings, while heroes like Hammer and Azmodan do a much better job of that.
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>>177328029
>Chen
Blue autolose despite having a Sylvanas.
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>>177328141
>>177328143
>>177328297
>>177328601
>>177328660
They didnt even destroy a fort
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>>177328739
I'm honestly amazed.

Congrats.
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protect was a mistake, prove me wrong
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tips on kharazim? he seems fun to play but im not used to this kind of playstyle for supports
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>>177328950
change your mindset, he is squishy auto attack assassin with self sustain.
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>>177329051
hmm alright.
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>>177321418
when i started playing i had like 15 minute queues
i think it's some sort of anti smurf system
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Why the fuck my anub'arak screams FOR DOOMHAMMER every time when i use his voiceline?
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>>177329386
Blizzard fucked up voicelines. I have Auriel speaking when I'm playing Morales as an example.
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>>177328942
youre wrong
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>>177311475
>TL (mainly plat and diamonds)
>Hanamura
>goy picks Azmodan
>pushes bot while enemies do their objective
>complains about Jaina dying 4v5
>in a team with Arthas as a solo tank and Brighwing as a solo healer
>he just pushes that bot all game
>dies multiple times too
Yes, I was that Jaina.

>TL (mainly plat and diamonds)
>Haunted Mines
>enemies do not gather skulls
>instead they do all camps
>100-skull powered FaggotCrusher 2000 comes and rapes their asses
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>>177327741
trait + w, also i know convection is really tempting but mana addict is probably better to avoid going oom
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>>177328950
basically unless you have 2-3 melee on your team don't pick him
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>>177329386
>>177329443
if you pick or tweak with voice and switch hero sometime this can happen
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>>177327741
m a n a
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>>177327741
just pick guldan and never oom
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>>177328006
The mark doesn't do damage, or anything at all really. It just means that every time he Qs you he gets 3% more sadism.

He probably marked you because you weren't afraid, and therefore were an easy punching bag to get a shitton of sadism off of.
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>>177276629
wheres the full image
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>>177327590
>picks the HUEG DAMAGE heroic that people can just sidestep
>not the fuck up every hero in melee heroic
>complains about effectiveness

Yeah, no, you are bad at Xul.
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>>177330262
i found it and wish i didn't

it's faggot shit for faggots
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>>177330462
>implying you wouldnt suck her horsecock
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>>177330240
Same reason you mark Misha rather than Rexxar.
Easier to land Q's on, she can die without Rexxar dying so you might get off two marks, and even if Rexxar dies first, Misha still dies with him.
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>>177330538
do you think you're being funny or clever?
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>>177330882
hes just being gay tbqh
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why do samuro clones do damage
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>>177330945
Because he's a straight port from WC3
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>>177330968
except they didn't do damage on W3
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How do i build Thrall ?
-Earthquake for aoe dps and frostwolf healing proc or sundering for burst and stun.
-Forked lightning for more poke and follow through proc or tempest fury for wind fury burst .
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>>177331109
you need to go follow through no matter what build youre going for
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>>177298789
칭총 핑퐁
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>>177331267
i know follow through is a must, but what about sundering vs earthquake and forked vs tempest fury
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>>177330945
Because he's still worthless as an Assassin anyway.
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>>177330945
because his damage is piss poor without clone
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why am i only seeing the same few maps
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>quest for play 3 games as a warrior
>varian isnt qualified for this

what the fuck it says hes a warrior
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>>177331418
He's a Multiclass (Assassin | Warrior), not a Warrior. :^)
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why does blizzard hate draenei heroes
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>>177331323
nigga you basically explained it yourself
other than the fact that you shouldnt base your choice between those 2 ults on whether earthquake does dps
earthquake for teams with heavy engage, beefy teams and fights that last for a while
sundering for squishy teams to get a quick pick and interrupt channels
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>>177331537
They are tired of the horsecock meme
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>>177331652
everyone is but that's no excuse

those degenerates should be ignored, possibly murdered
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>>177331652
>tired of the horsecock
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>>177331878
kill yourself
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How did Blizzard manage to port 1:1 the absolute cancer that is playing against Genji to HOTS so well?
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protect is a terrible mechanic

so is teammate body blocking
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>>177331948
Secretly, the HotS team loathes overwatch.

So they make every single overwatch hero complete cancer, so everyone bitches about how stupid they are.

Their endgame? Kill overwatch, in its' entirety.
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Jesus Christ the beginner players in this game are worse than the beginners in any other moba

>Stand still in the giant red circles
>Try to run through the enemy team towards the objective
>Run into towers to try to attack them with no creeps over and over
>Escaping from two enemy heroes with a sliver of health only to turn and fight them once you're safe

How do these people even function?
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>come back to hots after over a year because I heard of the new changes
>3.2k MMR pre-season ~2k MMR now
>people still don't know when to take camps, when objectives spawn, how to soak lanes, how to disengage from team fights, when to chase and when not to chase.
I ended up in plat 3. The people I play with/against are really bad compared to how I remember. I'm probably looking at it with rose-tinted lenses though.
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>>177330945
It's Warcraft I ain't gotta explain shit.
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>>177332517
I think ranked is just kind of fucked right now.
Low tier is all people that don't know how to play and are shit even when they figure it out.
Mid tier has people that have been playing awhile but just aren't very skilled and people that are skilled but don't understand the mechanics of it vs other mobas and are slowly climbing as they figure it out.
While high tier is everyone that has been playing for longer than a month and pro's.
Needs more time to get all sorted out after 2.0
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>>177332517
i just cant play heroes who spend more than 15 seconds to clear any camp solo
the control and value you get with well timed camps is immense
they can push fort and keeps while people fight over objectives
they can force rotation and you win fights 4v5

but most of the time people just take them when they spot them and opposing team just clears it with no problems
worse is when they can clear enemy camps but choose to fall back to ours
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>>177332747
Pre-2.0 lv 20 = a little over lv 55 in 2.0

Autists with too much money and time.
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>>177332747
you used to be able to grind levels by afking in AI mode
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>qm uther
>no stuns, roots, or silence
what a sad level 7 talent
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Both sides neck and neck just need to get an okay amount of skulls for golem to push to end. Team decided to fuck off and get camps while the enemy gets all 100 skulls.

Every fucking game this happens no matter how much I tell them the objective matters more then some shitty pushing.
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Is there a youtube video I can watch that explains Alarak's telekinesis? It makes no fucking sense to me
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>>177333940
are you perchance retarded?
how can you not understand vectors?
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>>177334025
A what m8
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>>177333940
Protip: Hold M1 to drag in the direction you want it to go. If you just point and click it'll go wherever the fuck it wants to.
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>>177333940
push enemies towards ur team
push enemies away from ur team
push urself away from ur enemies
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>>177334085
OH YOU CAN DRAG IT HOLY SHITTTT
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>>177334250
are you in a game as alarak with valeera lunara tyrande and murky right now as we speak?
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>>177334391
Yes
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>>177334457
its not even summer yet u fucking middle schooler get OFF MY BOARD YOU SHITSTAIN REEEEEEE STOP RUINING MY GAMES
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>>177334528
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i hate hotsfags
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>>177334659
BANKAI
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make a new thread already
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>>177334672

We hate you too, you massive Snollygoster!
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Daily reminder if you aren't at least Diamond you're fucking garbage.
t. Bronze 3 League shitter, Diamond in HotS
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>>177334948
>20 posts early
no
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>>177335097
if you aren't reliably beating gms and pros you're garbage desu
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>>177335097
>Diamond
If you aren't at least high masters you are bronze.
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I tried to get my little sister to play hots with me but she will only play if she can be Murky.. Someone help me...
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>>177332517
My MMR plummeted from plat to silver in TL after I disconnected in my last provisional game (yeah, I got punished that hard because of a blackout I couldn't control).
Now I'm in mid gold, and I swear I never had a harder time climbing even if the people I premade with are actually good at the game, because being faced with a team that is clearly at a higher elo than yours is perfectly fair.
An example would be this: 2 golds (1 being me), 1 silver and 1 diamond vs 2 plats, 2 diamonds and 1 gold.
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>>177335340
HOLY SHIT SAME DUDE
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>>177335340
me too little buddy... me too...
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>>177335395
>>177335407
...How many people have little sisters that love Murky here? Is this a normal thing?
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>trying to enjoy some HotS with my little sister
>she just wants to play Murky, thats fine
>queue up, get a game pretty quickly
>don't really care about the outcome of the game
>get into game, a minute passes
>ally alarak "doesn't understand the point of telekinesis"
>he finds out 5 minutes later that you can click and drag it
I fucking hate HotS fags.
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>>177335568
I have this cute little loli of a sister that just bought Murky slippers to play while she spams Murky in my hots games...
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>>177335568
It's no different from autists having a waifu or thinking they are good Abathur mains.
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>>177335568
They can't get punished for feeding, the character is cute and simple.
Perfect for little sisters and their inability to play vidya.
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>>177335340
Cucked by a fish, how does that feel
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>>177333940
>>177335586
Kek
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>>177334391
>>177335789
Forgot this
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>>177335789
Is this your first MOBA?
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>>177334948
>30 early
Wtf is wrong with you people
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>>177335897
I'm not the same anon who was asking about Alarak's telekinesis.
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>>177335638
God forbid my sister finds out there is Murky merch.
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>>177335365
I find TL hard to climb just because I only have 1 friend that I play hots with. Playing together we have a 62% win rate, but we can't win at all in TL.
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I don't know shit about Heroes of the Storm and I've never played it in my life, but I kind of want the Officer D.Va skin in Overwatch. Is it still available to be unlocked in HotS or is it gone forever now?
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>>177336112
Gone
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>>177336150
>>177336150
NEW THREAD
>>177336150
>>177336150
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>>177336165
Dammit.
Ah well, I'll still probably play to get the ten lootboxes.
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>>177336112
You have until the 22nd.
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>>177336253
But I thought you could only unlock it during a specific week?
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>>177336314
No. Each week just unlocked a new part of the challenge. You still can (and have to) do all four weeks to get the loot boxes for this week.
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Is qm matchmaking supposed to be absolute garbage?

Just had a match with 3 specialists and 2 assassins against a team with 1 warrior 1 support 2 assassins and a specialist
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>>177338436
yes it's a feature
outside of draft modes there are no "fair" mode, anything goes
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>tfw keep getting matched with mouth breathers
>keep running in to teamfights outnumbered, underleveled and right into chromies sand shit
Why




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