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Latest News and Patch notes
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Latest Released Hero - Wukong
https://www.epicgames.com/paragon/en-US/heroes/wukong
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2nd Latest Released Hero - Phase
https://www.epicgames.com/paragon/en-US/heroes/Phase
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Persistence edition
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>Play Narbash
>At character select, I inform team that I need a carry on right lane. Preferably Murdock or maybe even the Kallari since we had a Gideon who should be main and a Khaimera jungling
>Gideon responds "ok"
>Match starts
>Everyone abandons the right lane for the majority of the game
>Desperately plea and berate the team to follow the basic lane designations since we're getting our shit pushed in
>They just roam around trying to get enemy kills
>Only person who attempts to carry the lane is Khaimera, who doesn't even really benefit from my health regen and should be jungling and ambushing instead

Why don't they just listen? Is it console players?
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Is thread deletion automatic or can mods make judgment to pull the plug?
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>>179904902
>Why don't they just listen?
this game is populated only by retards
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>>179908186
Is it free for console as well right now? If so, I can't help but think these bad players are simply consolefags who gave it a quick download thinking they were getting an Overwatch experience. I've only been playing for 2 weeks, but I at least know the basics of roles and their lanes. Infuriating.
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>>179908378
>I've only been playing for 2 weeks, but I at least know the basics of roles and their lanes. Infuriating.
Because you are lurking in a paragon thread.

I'm sure most console players don't do that. I mean, do you know how often i see players who only buy a health potion, a mana potion and a ward, and then don't use any of their cp, because they don't know how it works?

And they are silver players...

They are just too stupid for mobas, because they are not used to it.
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RIP
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TwinBlast dab emote confirmed
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>>179909368
I got a rough idea of how tings work through in-game tips then furthered looked into stuff online like any person wanting to not suck at a video game. You guys don't do much other than complain, bump, and force the bush meme anyways. I like you guys though.
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>>179914940 link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Jb0yTag-AQ&t=1047s
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>>179914940
>"YOU GOT A BUG ON YOU"
I'll probably want to play him more when his voice lines are implemented. I don't care if he's a memester.
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When are voices gonna get in?
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>>179917925

S O O N
O O
O O
N N
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>>179917925
at full release
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Is Incessant Onslaught worth getting on any heroes?
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These players are unreal. My last team was, in this order:
-Greystone
-Narbash (Me)
-Phase (picked at the last second knowing I was hovering over Narbash since the draft start)
-Steel
-Rampage

I'm just telling myself it will get better at full release.
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>>179926995
>I'm just telling myself it will get better at full release.
it's only going to get worse friend
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>in draft
>Countess pipes up:
>"which skin should I use?"
>"I have all the skins"
>"I'm actually Diamond, can't wait for ranked"
>"don't worry, I'm going to carry hard, wait and see"
>they're actually shit and threaten to leave a bunch like a huge fucking baby
>I try to get them to calm down
>"how dare you talk to me with your low Elo"
I just muted them, we won, then all agreed in post-game chat that they were shit and to report them.
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>>179926496
aurora
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>>179930007
>"I'm actually Diamond
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>Gideon is on the left lane the whole time and trying to jump out of map with his teleport and ultimate
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>ywn cum on Serath or Sparrows hairy armpits
Why live

Also Wukong is pretty fun
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>>179930462
I checked after, too: their "smurf account" has 800 games and is in mid Silver with a 51% win rate and KDA of 2, so unless they're going by Fury.gg, I don't see how they can figure they're a Diamond player Must have just been lies and/ or delusion.
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>>179934243
Wukong may have done more damage to the game than Rev or Phase, desu. Those two just screwed with the pecking order for certain roles: Wukong completely destroyed any hope of getting a good team composition in solo queue.
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I'm downloading this game. Have I made a mistake?
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>lane select bug confirmed for not being fixed until v42 where it won't be an issue because it will "no longer be a thing"
Jesus
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>>179936537
Memes aside, it's a fun game, even though it can be annoying often.
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>>179937521
It seems fun. I'm surprised it isn't more popular. I heard a lot about it a year ago and haven't heard much since.
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>>179904902
>laning when you can just run around racking up kills
lol
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>>179934431
>their "smurf account" has 800 games and is in mid Silver with a 51% win rate and KDA of 2
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>>179934431
what is considered a "good" KDA?
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>>179915058
>and force the bush meme anyways.
Bush is never forced in /parag/, friend
>https://pastebin.com/ZaedWcma
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>Open loot crate
>Blush Arctic Frost Dekker
>"wtf I don't even play her!?"
>Go to menu to look at costume
>Pink and White with Energy Coursing throughout costume
>"Oh that's actually kind of cool"
>Consider learning Dekker
Woah, so this is the power... Of ebin's skins.
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>>179942979
I'd say 4 is what I'd call "good" (at 2.75 myself).
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>>179946152
For every neat skin variant, there's a Wasteland Howitzer or Green Countess.
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>>179947778
i like all the countess skins except her clown mask one
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>>179948976
I don't know, I think it has a a certain charm to it.
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Bedtime bump
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>>179949901
the problem with all the female hero's skins are that none of them are lewd enough. since most of them are simple recolors if the character isn't designed like aurora and have half their ass hanging out at all times anyway the skins are still very bland. we need skins that let me see belica's tight little ass, seraths milf tits and sparrows long luscious legs
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Different game bump
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>>179936537
Just clueless players that makes it super frustrating at times.
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>>179953956
Don't worry: Epic will get desperate and start bringing out the lewd once enough people ditch the game after hero balance is passed up again for no reason next patch.
>okay guys, we know we said everything would be different with the card rework, but please understand
>you need to get a feel for the heroes in the context of the new card system, that's all
>next patch in 9 weeks guys, see you in Agora!
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>spend months duo queueing with friend and roomie
>both new to game
>60%ish winrate
>upper gold

>make smurf account to solo queue one month ago
>assume lots of shitting with shitters
>80% win rate
>upper gold

what
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>>179956960
>Expecting any different below mid plat
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Having a real bad day /parg/ questioning if I even know how to play this game anymore.
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>>179955543
>update 45.2
>Increased Phase's blind duration to 5 seconds from 3,
>Obliterate now deals basic damage and can crit.
>Added new skin See Through Serath for 3000 coins.
>Added legendary variants for Bushy Belica and Domme Dekker to loot crates
>Bug fix: Muriel can no longer basic attack as it does not fit with her theme of being a defensive focused support
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>>179957662
>>Added new skin See Through Serath for 3000 coins.
>>Added legendary variants for Bushy Belica and Domme Dekker to loot crates
Best update
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>>179957415
Don't question yourself, question your teamm8's.
That always helps
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>>179957662
>Added new skin See Through Serath
my waifu is no whore she wouldn't dress like that
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I love this game but I hate it's community.
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>>179958856
your waifu is a BPD slut

>>179959123
do we even have a community?
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>>179959485
I was referring to leddit and the players I run into while playing. I love /parag/ and my bush bros though.
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>>179959485
>your waifu is a BPD slut
shut your whore mouth
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>>179959562
i love you too bushbro

>>179959578
>I wasn't myself anon I popped my ult that wasn't the real me I only love you
the state of serath cucks
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>>179960075
>I wasn't myself anon I popped my ult that wasn't the real me I only love you
>the state of serath cucks
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>>179960075
>>I wasn't myself anon I popped my ult that wasn't the real me I only love you
>the state of serath cucks
>Not realizing Yandere sluts only take out their rage/lust on one person
I didn't expect you to have much waifu experience anyway
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>>179960308
>>179961028
>>179960075
you guys need to quit arguing there is only one true pure waifu and everyone knows who that is
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>>179961541
The best waifu is Morigesh though
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all paragon girls are trash
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>>179961748
That's just wrong
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>>179961748
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>>179961748
heres your (You)
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>>179930167
Are you fucking with me, or can you explain why?
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>>179959562
reddit is actually turning around a bit phase made them realize what complete retards the devs are. plus i saw a post that btfo out of syphin for being a shitter that actually got upvoted
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>"don't chase you guys"
>proceeds to chase every chance they get and dies for it every time
>"sorry, my bad"
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My KDA with Kwang at the start of the week was 2.31 after 20 games of being shit. It's now 3.03.
Feels good man.
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>>179964667
but whats your win/loss
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>>179965213
Just over half. A bad losing streak over several matches took that from me.
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Bed time. Keep her bumped: it would be embarrassing to lose another one. Sad, even.
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>>179969826
its the fucking yuros man we have enough life in the threads to were if they wouldn't die every other day if the fucking muslims would do their part and just post once or twice from 10am to 4pm
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>wait an entire day before playing because i get matched against strafe and chill pill duoing
>decide to play one game before going to sleep
>there's no escape
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>>179961541
Her model looks so dopey
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How often are new characters added?
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>>179971448
#Every3weeks
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>>179959562
>>179960075
Based bush bros
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>Getting BLACKED by Phase
Who thought this was a good idea?
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>>179945060
Who will play them in the inevitable cinematic version?
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>>179971383
what did you just say about my fuckin waifu
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What's the fastest you've ever gained 8 fucking elo /parag/?
To be fair, their ape just fed our Revenant twice, disconnected and gave them a tier 2 in 5 minutes.
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>>179975337
I forgot to post it with this, was too amp'd up
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>>179975337
i had an 11 minute match a few weeks ago but that was because the 4 stack on the other team quit and left their poor dekker alone. i spent the whole match feeding her kills by letting her hit me and then walking into the core
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>>179971127
Did you win though?
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>>179974203
themselves with the magic of SFM
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i made a smurf account that i only play sparrow on what are you guys doing to pass the time
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>>179979375
Not smurfing because that detroys the game for lower Elo players. I guess you'd rise fast enough so they wouldn't have to put up with you for long, but still.
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>>179980820
but i love my waifu and i just wanted to honor her
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>>179979375
Playing anything but paragon right now.
Just waiting until phase fucks off, until then I'm having a stab at the attack on titan skill ceiling.
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yuros plz
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>>179984993
No worries, i'm here now.
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Bamp
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wukong is fun
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>get Crimson Inquisitor Gideon skin in Vault
I never play Gideon, maybe have 5 games total, and yet the game keeps giving me his skins. The game KNOWS I don't play Gideon, because that's the stupid bullshit they track, yet they keep giving me his damn skins.
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Post goofy deck names.

Gadget: Erectin an ASS
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>>179989753
i have every single twinblast skin and 4 of his color variations and ive played less than 15 matches as him
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>>179993573
>>179989753
>Pick up Narbash and find out he's fun and I play him pretty well
>Unlock his mastery
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>>179992061
countess #1
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>>179992061
Suck my Kwang
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>>179993573
Twin's skins are pretty fun, especially the energised variants.
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>>179992061
>You Keep Me Kwangin' On; Kwang Chung
>The Ballad of Bilbo Baggins (Feng Mao)
>Plastic Beach; On Melancholy Hill (Murdock)
>Come On and Slam/ Welcome to The Jam (Steel)
>No Easy Way Out (Crunch)
>Good Vibrations (Narbash)
>Another One Bites The Dust (Twinblast)
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A word of warning if you're on a losing streak: don't try digging up. Once you go below 1270, the already bad matchmaking goes completely to hell (I have hundreds of games under my belt and was put in with two BRAND NEW players and two friends smurfing together). The matchmaking is touted as being more than just some internal arbitrary Elo number, but that is exactly what it is. If it weren't for how much of a pain crafting/ getting cards is, I'd just start a new account.
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>>179998265
Ground Control to Major Tom (Gideon)
Skillex (Phase)
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>>179904637
Is the vault rigged in my favor? I just started playing and in the 2nd week i got gideon skin and on the 3rd i got sparrows. Are they trying to make me get excited and play more?
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>>180002946
>Ground Control to Major Tom (Gideon)
I might steal that
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When will we get sfm of characters like Serath or Sparrow? It can't all be Countess
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>>180008214
When Epic starts secretly paying porn artists to make videos of their characters.
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>>180003665
I'm certain that crates are weighted to give skins of heroes the player doesn't use.
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>>180011517
Im not talking about the crates, im talking about the monthly vault. Today i got my second token - missed first week - and they gave me another legendary skin, no way im this lucky but i still haven't reached level 15 so that's why im wondering if they are giving me the legendary stuff cause I'm new and they don't want me to leave the game?
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https://streamable.com/u16e4

I'm surprised no one posted this
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>>180013205
Idk. You're probably just lucky.
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>>180013816
>hold lane against Wukong
>global ultimate

What did he mean by this?
Kallari?
Muriel?
Holding a lane against swarm of monkey men?
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>>180014613
The only Global ults are Kallari, Murdock, Muriel, Morigesh, technically Kwang and Shinbi.
Discount Everyone except Kallari and Muriel, because they're the only ones that don't need to have set up their ult prior to it's use globally, and take Murdock out of the equation because his ult is a finisher. Since Muriel would be completely useless defending against a Wukong, I'm going to guess they meant Kallari.
SUGGESTION: Portal Stone.
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Is this game actually alive?
Judging by this general it's... on life support
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>>180023646
The game is fine the general is just slow.
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>>180024239
Alright, I'll give it a try then. Tired of dota/lol/hots
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>>180023646
The game is garbage rn dude try again in like 4ish months
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The monkey of my team just had a 15/3/10

He did more than 1/3 of our kills.

Is that normal for a monkey?
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Heroes being locked behind daily login rewards is the dumbest fucking thing. I like the game but not having access to a huge portion of the roster because "haha, you haven't played long enough :^)" regardless of my level or matches played is fucking dumb.
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>>180033252
Did the developers say they are going to do this?
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>>180033450
That's how it currently is. Am I misunderstanding what you're asking?
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>>180033528
What hero are you talking about?

Because i am sure it's not like that.
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>>180033795
He's saying that daily login rewards (if you're new) grant you more heroes in the roster, rather than leveling up and getting them that way, or just having them all at the start in general


My guess is to keep shitters out of the characters that require more than a few brain cells to play

I've seen some shitty Kallari's though
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>>180033795
A grand total of 25 heroes are locked behind time that might not even be spent playing.

>>180034719
I understand that's the reason; but, level seems like a much better gauge of how much experience you have in the game than daily logins.
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>>180034940
>>180034719
Oh, i didn't know that.

Since when is it like that?

I remember that you don't start with all heroes, but then you had all pretty quickly through levelling. Or am i remembering wrong?
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>>180034940
I'm thinking maybe just so you have time to try out the heroes to see which you like, before moving onto the more difficult heroes.

It also let's you see which roles, lanes, etc. That you like.

That's my understanding of it at least.
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>>180035229
No you're right, it used to be based on levels


It came fairly fast too because level 5 was when you got the expert heroes


it's also when solo vs AI stopped giving you rewards
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>>180035307
It's too much time for someone who doesn't have a life though. It really just gives me more incentive to ignore the game until I've unlocked the heroes I want then terrorize the pvp queue with my inexperience.
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>>180035431
>It came fairly fast too because level 5 was when you got the expert heroes
Yeah, i remember.

Khaimera was "advanced" back then, kek. Thats why you couldn't play with him when you did your first matches.
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>>180035643
Tbh I don't care about my Elo enough to complain about shitters


Everyone has bad games and bad teammates, just something you gotta deal with.
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Bamp
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bemp
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>>180019443
I've actually been thinking about Portal Stone. Trouble is that you have to invest in a 5-point card that you'll pretty much have to dump by endgame or have one additional card to build with it.
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>>179992061
>She Blinded Me, With Science! (You Know Who)
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>>180025184
nope

looks like Goku went SSJB, he normally has low k/d but has high tower kills
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>>180008214
seraths model got ripped it just hasnt been released to the public yet
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>>180046427
you're lying
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>>179992061
>i am the igg man
>Lt. Spears
>morning steel
>mr meowgi
>twinsies
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>>180046643
>foot fetish
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>>180046643
I want to kiss her lips.

Why can't i have a Serath gf?
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>>180048143
>Why can't i have a Serath gf?
because milfs don't look like that in real life
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>>180048143
damn i never realized what dsl's she had im gonna need to move her up the paragon waifu list
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>>180048281
How old do you think is Serath?
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>>180048495
>damn i never realized what dsl's
what's the difference between regular lips and dsl's?
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>>180048606
dsl's are extra sexy
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>>180048584
old enough to be a milf she's a christmas cake at the youngest
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>>180048584
old enough to call her mommy
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>>180048702
>dsl's are extra sexy
i know but what about them makes them dick sucking lips? just being sexier?
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>>180048976
they're thicker/fuller than normal lips
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>>180048976
I'm not the anon who said they are dsl's, but isn't it just a word to describe nice, full lips?

At least in my country we use a similar term for nice full lips.
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>>180049173
>they're thicker/fuller than normal lips
>>180049247
>but isn't it just a word to describe nice, full lips?
thanks english isn't my first language so i wasn't really sure what was meant buy the term
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>>180048709
>>180048753
I don't mind how old she is, i want to have her as my gf.

If she is rrally a mild that would mean she has a nice thick bush like most milfs have.
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>>180049557
being able to call your girlfriend mommy is nothing but a benefit anon.
and we have established that serath does indeed have a thick milf bush check the OP
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>>180011517
>100+ games as sparrow on legacy
>over 80 on mono
>got a gold chest rep and card packs from the vault
>got the murdock skin last vault having only played him 20 times over the life of the game and have every single Yin skin and variation from crates despite never playing a game as her ever
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>>179976895
>r34 Paragon sfm
What a time to be alive
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>>179992061
>Supportive Frosty Bitch (Don't ask)
>Shinbi's Taint
>Shibi offbeat Jungle Jam
>Castess
>Incritable
>Elsa <3
>Shinbi K-PopOff
>Seratch of Arc
>Narbash, M.D.
>The Little Tank that Could (Sevarog)
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>>180051485
>Death mask is Unbreakable (Sevarog)
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>>180048976
>what about them makes them dick sucking lips?
You tell me
>inb4 not a male
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>>180051485
How many Shinbi decks does a man need?
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>>180052016
those are just ugly bimbo lips these are some dsls
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>>180052156
As many that can that can rival a Korean pop star's wardrobe
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>>180052409
but shinbi only has 1 skin
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>>180052606
Most heroes only have one skin, just recolored.
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>>180052701
>teal instead of light blue? that'll be 7 dollars plz
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>>180052358
>those are just ugly bimbo lips
>these are some dsls
Be that as it may, all dsl's are welcome to perform on my o-chin chin
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>/parag/- bush and dick sucking lips general
god i love it here.
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>>180053793
don't forget the universally agreed upon /our guy/
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>>180054156
He is perfect, and the game should be balanced around him.
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>>180054429
really bakes my beans how epic can employ a dev team that makes a perfect character like kwang and then shit out something like phase or rev
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I want to shove my face into Phases bush
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>>180055263
i want to shove my face into Shinbis bald cleft of venus
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been away since AoI, is shit still retarded or did monkey save it?
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>>180055857
phase still isn't nerfed if thats what you're waiting on and she wont be until at least v41 which is the 27th
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>>180056017
That is sad to hear. Guess I have to wait out yet another week. Have they acknowledged the bullshit at least?
>muriel main
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>>180056471
>Have they acknowledged the bullshit at least?
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>>180056471
they've done the complete opposite actually they did an entire episode of one of their community corners basically calling everyone who plays the game retarded and that we all just need to learn how to counterpick and git gud.
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>>180055263
>>180055467
>>180055263
>>180055467
I want to lick Belica clean after she's sweaty and exhausted from a day of arresting criminals paying extra attention to her faintly hairy butthole
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>>180056648
How can a company be this fucking stupid. Statistically she is even outlying was ahead of most. That isn't even considering her impact on fun. How in the fuck man
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>>180056881
because you're a fucking scrub anon their in house dev games are fine and they've been playing phase for 5 months. also the card rework will change everything and it will all be fixed even though its not broken now :^)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpCzJ4q6wJU
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>>180057124
~3:30 he says we want faster modes. Are we getting teamfights in the character select screen?
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>>180056648
>>180056881
Pick Aurora
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>>180057124
>overwhelming data showing phase is broke af
>everyone fucking hates phase
>pros say she is busted
this motherfucker just told us that his shitty little dev team found secret anti phase strats and thousands of us playing at much higher levels than them haven't? Epic you are better than this. The community has more total playtime with phase than your internal testing has. Just nerf the bitch and stop having this dick measuring contest with us, we all want the game not to suck.
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>>180057576
at best a consolation pick against phase. Also fucks your comp to hell because aurora is mediocre at best.
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>>180057576
>use stasis gem like everyone else past bronze
>your ult is now worthless and you're playing one of the worst characters in the entire game
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>>179958382
Who is this
What is wrong with her
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>>180056881
>impact on fun
This is really concerning. I know among my group of friends, we hate playing offlane anymore because Phase means we might as well be afk for the first 5 minutes. The lane is guaranteed unless the team invests time into keeping the Phase shut down.

>>180058296
>2B cosplayer from Nier
>taking too much DICK
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>>180058296
>Shinukii
>2B
>Ahegao
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>>180058508
>Shinukii
>2B
>Ahegao
Huh?
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>>180058862
see
>>180058431
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>>180059004
???
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>>180058862
>>180059353
>>>/a/
>>>Google.com
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>>180057793
did you try 3 carries against phase? how do you know it won't work if you dont try it
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>>180057793
>>180060558
>The game has now entered the 'lose/win at the character select screen' Phase
Well it was a good run
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>>180058081
>your ult is now worthless and you're playing one of the worst characters in the entire game
>Bait out the stasis gem with teammates
>Still have an additional cc ring of frost to trap enemies
Wood league spotted
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>>180052358
>he doesn't like bimbos
What horrendously bad taste
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>>180061868
>>Bait out the stasis gem with teammates
can we stop posting this stupid ass "bait stasis" meme stasis doesn't get baited no one is blowing stasis on a grux pull or a sparrow right click or some shit if theres an aurora on the other team
>Still have an additional cc ring of frost to trap enemies
and do what with it hit people for 120 damage while they're in it because you have support scaling? Since you're just going to say "Use it in a teamfight" Aurora gets blown up in fights because she also has low HP and is a melee character.
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>>180062837
>can we stop posting this stupid ass "bait stasis" meme
I'm not saying that my experience makes it so that the method is perfect but if you or your team can't bait or haven't ever bait out stasis gem activations then I've offered all the help that I could
>>180062837
>"Use it in a teamfight" Aurora gets blown up in fights because she also has low HP and is a melee character.
No shit, it's like there aren't 4 other people on your team and other designated damage deale- OOoooh I get it now, you solo queue.
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Is Morigesh really as brainless as "spam Mark on cooldown and ult if anyone escapes on low health"

I'm fucking in love with her but I'm not seeing anything more to her than this

also why does mark only do like 100 damage less than her ult
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>>179963828
>reddit is actually turning around a bit
>a post that btfo out of syphin for being a shitter that actually got upvoted
No fucking way. Was there really? Can you link or remember what the thread was called?
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>>180063642
Yes

You sound like a boring person

Because one only hits within spitting distance and the other is usable on Mars?
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>>180063841
https://www.reddit.com/r/paragon/comments/6hq7hz/reducing_the_mmr_cap_was_bad_for_the_game/dj0fu7y/

if you want to see the deleted comment where he really gets shit on click halifax's name so you can see his post history
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Yin is far too fucking strong.
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>>180066749
so is rev!?
it's at a spectrum.
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>>180066749
What about her is so strong? The ridiculous waveclear?
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>>180066749
>>180067216
>>180067285
yin blows the only carry worse than her is grim.
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>>180067631
-------------------(you)
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>>180068451
But im not baiting Yin sucks. she has no poke, she has no escape unless her teammate is at a perfect distance and its very slow. she has no lockdown so people can just run from her, windburn is on a long CD now, her ult is terrible her right click is worthless in half the matches, shes melee so she can't stay back in fights but as soon as she goes in she gets stunned once by anything and blown up because her escape is shitty. the only thing she really does better than any other carry is waveclear which is the single most useless aspect of being a carry. Sparrow and Twin are better for teamfights, Murdock is better for poking and chasing but he also sucks. Serath destroys anyone 1v1 and has an escape a slow and invinc so she can actually stay alive or stay on someone. Rev is an instant kill or minimum force out of a fight on anyone he wants. What does Yin do? Be good when she's linked to Phase? Who the fuck isn't?
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>>180068876
i just felt like saying something besides

B U M P

U

M

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>>180069274
what do you think bushposting is for
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>>180068876
Her ult is her escape, man: turn a tight corner or head into a narrow path in the jungle, pop the ult and you're away. Her Lash Kick is explicitly a lockdown, and Windoburn's cooldown at level 3 or 4 isn't even long, it's just not as obscenely short as it used to be.
As for her waveclear, it helps her farm more effeciently: get her Raptors even once and let her take some jungle camps and her lead will become insurmountable unless you get complacent.
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>>180069843
her ult isn't an escape, khai jumps through it, grux and sev dash through it, kwang tethers her the only thing it lets her escape from are carries or supports. lash kick could be a lockdown but like i said she's just gonna get blown up in fights so you're not really doing anything with it unless its a 1v1 in which case serath shits on her and every carry wins those anyway. any carry past 10-15 minutes can destroy a wave in less than 10 seconds and early game you dont even want to clear waves fast since you want to freeze the lane and farm it while the offlaner jerks off doing nothing, but thats another problem she has her lane pressure is shit since she's melee so as soon as someone gets under tower they're safe unlike the other carries where you have to get behind the crystal
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>>180071040
It lets her escape more than any carry besides Serath and Wukong, and if you're saying Serath has better wave clear than Yin, you're wrong. Even Twin's grenades are on a cooldown and are pretty mana intensive. As for freezing the lane, you don't have to clear the wave you know: you can just...not. She's also pseudo melee, in that her range is almost but not quite that of a ranger when windburn's active, so I don't really see that as being a huge handicap either (and the amount of times a Yin dove my tower to finish me with lash kick is evidence enough that it's not an issue).
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i know it's dead hours but does anyone have one of those tier ranking lists
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>>180072756
tier lists of what? if you mean overall hero tier lists heres a simple one

Offlane: Feng Kwang Grey Serath Morg Sev Shinbi Monkey
Jungle: Grux Sev Kwang Khai Crunch
Mid: Belica Howie Morg
Carry: Rev Twin Sparrow Serath
Support: Phase and Dekker

everyone else sucks
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>>180073419
>Mid: Belica Howie Morg
Gideon?

>Support: Phase and Dekker
I think Narbash is decent, too.
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>>180073419
i meant the ones with the grades and the pictures
S+
S
A and shit. This is cool too though, also it's interesting that there's so many good offlanes and junglers but less of everything else
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>>180073489
gideon has a bad ult small AOE on his ability and barely any CC
narbash is fine but theres no reason to pick him when phase exists
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if you wanna give me a more detailed list i can try to make one myself
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>>180073690
>gideon has a bad ult
Kek, thats true.

Everytime he is trying to use his ult on me i either escape or kill him instead, kek.
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>>180073816
>>180073659
you can make any list you want here http://paragontierlist.com/
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>>180073489
>>180073690
>>180073860
Post the gideon meme.
You know the one.
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>>180073992
i don't know the one
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>rekking as Kwang, at 60 wqhile the enemy team are at 40
>12-2-2
>driveby tether Orb as enemy team attack it, ult in, kill one of them and steal it into the bargain, clean up another on my way out
>still lose because our feeder Serath disconnected
>KDA goes up, win % goes down
Yet. Again.
Seriously thinking of just quitting until ranked is implemented, because solo q is a fucking dumpster fire.
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papq6qpap
bgbdedbgb
papq6qpap
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>>180073419
>Shinbi above Countess
nah
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>>180075797
>he thinks it'll get better
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>>180074363
>"The operation will be a success, but we will all die."
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>>180076298
It cannot possibly get any worse.
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>>180077089
>he thinks it cannot possibly get any worse
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>>180075797
An update to the saga
>first pick in draft, lock in Kwang, call offlane
>someone picks an Iggy
>"Kwang offlane, are you kdding me?"
>"Kwang isn't offlane!"
>"Kwang and Iggy suck!"
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>>180077795
>People shit talking Kwang
I hope you draft aborted
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>>180077795
what elo are you where people actually know what lane roles are but are still stupid enough to think kwang is bad
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triple bump
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Loss after loss after loss after loss after loss in games where I do okay-to-great. Just had a Gideon that went 0-8.
Can't do it anymore. Logging in until I get the day 90 reward, but then I'm done with Paragon for a while.
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>>180079987
I had the same struggle, but now i have a few people to play with and we actually win multiple games in a row now.

>feels good
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Fucking hypermode Khai with Phase is ridiculous: he's getting stacks from eating you while you try to kill her as quickly as possible so you can turn and try to fight him 1v1.
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bumpo
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>all this countess porn getting made
the floodgates are opening /parag/ this is going to also advertise the game a shitload now we just need someone to link these people the rest of the roster so the waifus who are actually worthy of this attention can get some
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>>180077795
At least your teammates talk to you. I plea to them every game
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>>180083906
>teammates
Dodged that shit bruh.
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>>180083043
>all this countess porn getting made
Who cares about Countess porn?

Seraths bush is the only one i care about.
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>>180083043
I was thinking about getting some Mori work commissioned. I'll post it here first bush bros
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Bamp
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>>179904637
>tfw you pass basic and check out the next 2 heroes
>tfw already slipping
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Bimp
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Rank ur waifus in the order in which you want them to be made into sfm pron
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Need 2 for full party.
Add ragincajunnugz on psn or ssj_nugget on epic.

As slow as this general is we might be full but feel free to add.
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Pre-game bump
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Win-bamp
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Does Obliterate count as one ability for Steel's Ablative Armour, or are all of the projectiles a single instance of ability damage each?
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i think this might be the best general on this website the 6 people in here are fun
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>>179908378
>>179909368
When will this shit meme end? It has nothing to do with console faggots. After about 50 games or so console and pc players both have near identical performance overall. One of the top sparrow players is controller-only. Being on a PC doesn't make you part of a super secret cool club (if you think it does, fuck off from this site). If it wasn't for PS4, paragon would have died out long ago. Try playing on console and see how many pc players you see highlighted per match - very very few, maybe 2 or 3 tops per lobby.

I say this as a plat PC/PS4 player who prefers PS4 for party chat and easy lounging. Also, bush memes fucking suck. There I said it.
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>>180107425
>Also, bush memes fucking suck
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>>180107425
I'm this guy >>179909368 and i am a console player.

I'm not saying that you are shit if you are playing on a console, i'm just saying that many console players (many pc players, too of course) don't understand how mobas work. They don't buy any cards, they chase every enemy and die, they use their ults to clear waves of minions.
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Bedtime bump: keep her going for about 10-12 hours, yeah?
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>>180109142
i've clocked in for my shift anon
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>>180109142
Okay anon, i'll bamp for you.
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>>180099719
Serath>dekker>countess>gadget>Muriel desu senpai
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>>180107425
You're a retard if you don't think there is a difference of skill between the two platforms, I'm an idort too, but it's still clear as day to me.
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>>180111497
>Serath
>number 1
My nigger
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can u believe this shit?
i was morigesh
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>>180118823
Why is Phase' name not redded out?
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>>180118823
ffs that is the third i lost today, the same happened last sunday. I think that i'll never play on sunday again
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>>180119152
because im an idiot lol didnt see it
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>>180118823
How?
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>>180118823
>porcodio
Are you italian?
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Bump
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I play the game on ps4 and im gonna go to a summer house for a couple of days, when I come back does my daily reward reset to day 1? If so can i download the game on my shitty laptop and just run the game daily for that?
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>>180121428
Yep
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>>180124956
No it doesn't it stays on the last day u claimed the reward
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>>180126493
So if tomorrow is day 22 i could leave the game for a week and when I come back it log at day 23?
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>>180126935
I think so, some time ago i didnt log for a day or 2 and it didnt reset
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>>180127282
Thanks senpai
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near death bump
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>>180086828
Good man
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Any leaks for upcoming heroes?
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>>180104478
Do you know how many it absorbs?
When I've hit him before I've seen it deteriorate during my obliterate
BARS
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Consolefag here, im not super sure about this, but I just got a new PC, should I play the game on that instead? I have been playing paragon for a year on console, so I don't know how dramatic the change will be with controls, and I don't know if I'll be worse overall, any thoughts?
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>>179904637
Need some people to play with these randos are p bad.
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>>180132485
download it try a game against bots to see how you play
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>>180132616
Tell us the name, then we can add you.
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>>180126353
che cazzo?! I love Italy now
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>>180132736
RaveFLyz
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>>180099719
Belica Serath Aurora Dekker Sparrow
Sparrow would be higher but I dont think many SFM artists will respect key attributes of her character in their work
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>>180106018
its a very fun general because we have no dedicated trolls or shitposters. thats partly because we're too small to have those and partly because everyone who is here actually hates the game so the only thing that actually pisses anyone off is saying kwang sucks or that your waifu is shaved
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>>180132485
you can just plug a controller into your pc
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>>180136023
I will add you tomorrow, it's already late here.

I am only silver and main Serath, is that a problem?
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>>180107425
ps4 players are garbage
>Also, bush memes fucking suck
oh you're just a shitposter
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will i ever get the fucking sparrow skin from the vault
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>>180143304
I got 2 deck slots today, yay
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>>180143415
>hey guys we wanted to give you a little reward for constantly playing our game we added a mega vault full of exclusive skins or some keys
>oh but we also filled it with a bunch of useless shit even though there are 0 other ways to get these skins thanks for playing :^)
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>>180138043
>or that your waifu is shaved
but my slutfu is shaved
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>>180138043
>partly because everyone who is here actually hates the game
Y-Yeah man! Fuck this game! I totally hate playing Sparrow and Aurora! I totally enjoy other shit like... Fighting games! Yeah that's it!
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>>180144543
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If anyone wants to add me my name is ThantonDS

I mostly main a jungling sev or jungling rampage and I'm silver, I hope that's not too much of a problem.
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Page 9 is no good
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>>180144256
>cuntess mains
>>180144543
i like playing sparrow and fighting games too bushbro in fact i made a smurf account just so i could play only her and im really looking forward to the new dbz game since SF5 blows
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>>180132485
I was on the same boat.buy a Xbox one controller and I can promise you'll never look back at your ps4.
Only ever get on that shit for when ever I ping and dc out of a match I can instantly comeback on ps4,miss out on my frames and grass but at least I make it back in to finish the game.
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>>180148205
a true /fgg/ and /parabush/ bro indeed
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>>180149853
>tfw no cammy/belica special forces SFM yet
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>>180151192
>cammy/belica special forces SFM
Be careful, this is how https://pastebin.com/ZaedWcma got created.
>ParagonxStreet Fighter Waifu crossover fanfic
Has /parag/ finally made it?
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Made it to platinum finally bump
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>>180152919
congratulations now you can see how it never ever gets better with your own eyes

>>180152045
>Be careful, this is how https://pastebin.com/ZaedWcma got created.
>implying a belica/cummy fanfic would be a bad thing
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>>180127657
Different anon. Also, it goes way past 30, i'm on 76 right now
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>>180153540
it goes forever but the rewards were obviously not planned out past the first 30 days. some guy posted a screencap of the 120 day "big" reward and its just rep with half the shit before that being 50 crafting materials
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Zharkos, can I get a look at your Sevarog deck? Can you give me some tips with him too?
I seem to do okay with him except for those stacks, I'll have 140 in a little after 30 minutes but I always feel I'm rushing to that point. I get trouble getting to level 3 before river camp too.
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>>180141439
>>180112896
>muh PC masterrace!
I was in comms with a retard who kept spouting this nonsense, couldn't believe it. Some of the best players play on PS4 and it isn't like you can't use a mouse and keyboard on PS4. The idiots who spout this garbage are 100% low golds/silver trying to find an excuse on why their teams are so bad.
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>>180154354
the only person who plays on ps4 who is any good is bobbybojangles. stop with the console war bullshit and just accept that ps4 players blow and most of them don't even know what a moba is
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>>180154354
desu I use controller most of the time and only plug in my mouse when my thumbs get tired from constant movement and juking
>inb4 console fag
>>180153313
>>implying a belica/cummy fanfic would be a bad thing
I would never, just saying that unless you want to rub your chinpo/o-manko into oblivion, be careful what you wish for
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>>180155195
ive never had any problems with it and it runs on UE so it should be fine unless they horribly fuck everything up.
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>>180152045
>Has /parag/ finally made it?
akinator still doesn't know my waifu so we have a ways to go
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>>180157926
Fair enough
Did it ask about bush?
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>>180160336
no but it did ask me what color her hair was 5 or 6 different times so take that to mean what you will
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pregame bump
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Morning /parag/
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>>180131390
His armour absorbs four abilities and recharges over time.
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Anyone else playing Co-op right now with bugged (enemy?) minions?
I'm killing the ranged ones in 2 hits, and the melee ones in 3.
And this was in the second minute, with Grux at level 2.
Got to their inhibs in 5 minutes, core at 8.
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>>180155867
This. They have no idea what they're doing.
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>>180167794
someone in the match is playing their first or second game it makes all the minions have half health and all the AI is even dumber than usual
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>>180168774
Hah, that explains a lot.
As if the AI needs any more dumbing down, kek
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>>180167794
That skin would be PERFECT if Grux was more recognizable through the helm
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Wait, bots are even more broken than usual? Jesus Christ, Epic.
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>>180170476
that one of the only good skins in the whole game normal grux looks terrible
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Morning bamp
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Weather's too fucking hot to play lads. Holy moly.
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>>180174384
Lame excuse.

Start playing, otherwise you will never reach your goal.
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>>180175054
My goal is further away than ever thanks to a spectacular losing streak. I'm basically back where I started last October.
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>>180175705
Ohh

I'm sorry to hear that mate.
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Morning bump. Will ebin actually balance patch today? Will we get summer bikini skins?
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>>180175843
On one hand i would love to see Serath half naked and sexy, on the other hand that would be wrong, a knight without armor?
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>>180176175
but which half
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>>180177369
The ass.
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>>180177438
serath's ass is low key thicc af that shit even expands plate armor good taste plus that half lets you see the bush too
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https://www.epicgames.com/paragon/en-US/news/v-40-5-release-notes
Oh boy, lookit all them skins.
At least they're fixing the draft bug and "looking at" Rev, Phase and Mori.
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>>180178407
>mfw Serath main
>mfw immune to Morigeshs and Revs ultimate

Is there anything she can't do?
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>>180178539
Be a real girl :(
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>>180178707
:(
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>>180178707
>>180178753
VR paragon when
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>>180178407
i love every single rogue sparrow skin they've released but they've locked them all in the fucking loot crates and i refuse to spend $500 on video game cosmetics. i would literally spend $15 to have the blue version and the ivory royal garb sounds cool as fuck too. do they really make enough money off of like 100 chinks buying thousands of these things that it would be a loss to actually sell them
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best waifu bump
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>tfw fell to silver
>tfw afraid that the longer I spend in this bracket, the worse I'll get due to not having to exercise good habits
>tfw winning is a fucking coin toss every time
I had a "support" Greystone last match who just decided to roam the map for kills after five minutes.
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>>180155867
>>180168049
Not him but
>muh PC perfection
Fuck outta here. We have 3/5 PC players on our team and they're fucking retards. The Phase refuses to help anyone else except the Grim, aka the worst character in the game. They're just feeding the other Khaimera.
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>>180183171
>biggest feeder is a greystone on ps4 with 7 cs 10 minutes in the game
>implying anyone is basing "x players suck" on silver shitter garbage matches anyway
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>>180184206
>majority of the player base is silver
>not using the largest sample size to draw conclusions
Neck yourself
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>>180184713
>majority of playerbase are silver shitters
>majority of players in silver are on ps4
really buttered my biscuits
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I wonder if we'll be archived when I wake up
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>>180178407
>"It's okay, we promise we'll fix our stupid heroes! Please buy crates and roll for Sparrow Skin recolor #46!"
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lol, the guy calling for a Greystone nerf in the release notes comments section.
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>>180189024
Yeah! He doesn't die when I kill him! He just stands still for a year and comes back with half hp!
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>mfw 3 carrys one monkey and rampage
Wish me luck guys
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>>180178407
>Blush Forest Rogue Sparrow
>Lunar Forest Rogue Sparrow
>Orchid Royal Garb Sparrow
>Ivory Royal Garb Sparrow
MUH
FUCKING
DICK
>Best bush getting all these skins
I should have been saving all my crates, fug
Can I spend money on bush without spending money on a beta?
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>>180191080
Pray the other team refuses to engage. Your 1v1 game is ridic.
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>>180191961
Kek, was an easy win.

It took us about 17 minutes, i hadn't a game that short in a while.
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Should have bought the Silver Ghost skin long ago: all this time my ancestors couldn't see me rekin in their name.
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>>180069779
its shit stop, it is actually shit not even joking. literally the only reason i refuse to post is because of you faggots having wet dreams over 3d femme in a beta games
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>>180132485
ps4 is more comfy for paragon with friendss. if you want to be a lonely bushfag pc masterrace reddit-tier cringetard then by all means ditch ps4 and move to pc solely for some grass and an inflated ego.

protip - the best pc players are players such as myself who dont jackoff our towers.
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>>180185176
compare percentage of ps4 players in silver
compare percentage of pc players in silver

wow really fucking boils the brain cauldron, they're the fucking same
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Guys, enough of the console vs PC shittery: we're small enough in here without turning on each other.
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>>180195325
This.

No matter if console or PC, the bushes are always the same.
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>>180195650
alright im fucking out one less /parag/ member keep pushing your shit meme nobody likes stupid nigger
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>>180195814
Wtf is your problem?

Are you a bushophobe?
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>another /parag/ poster leaves
Assemble the council, we have to find a new 6th poster.
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>>180196581
Best girl present
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>>180196814
Best at causing drafts to disband, maybe.
Even Kallari can't compare in that regard
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>>180195814
Oh no, pls don't go!!!

What are we going to do without you??

Pls don't leave us anon!!!!
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>>180197081
She was fine before she had to lane against Morigesh every game.
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>>180196814
only bald waifu
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>>180201328
I'm sorry anon, but scientific consensus disagrees.
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>>180201708
>but scientific consensus disagrees.
my penis cares not for science
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The optimal amount of pen to build is 30 for both basic and ability damage, correct?
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>>180202278
Apparently. I haven't crunched the numbers myself, but that's what I hear.
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Bedtime bump: your shift, Yanks.
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How viable is rampage at high plat+ elo? Im rekking shit with him in low plat, but im worried about the amount of thickblood i predict ill see
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>>180205247
You already answered you own question
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>>180202278
No, either 30 to 32 ability pen for ability damage but it really depends for basic pen because carries can have more than 50 basic armor while caster have around 25
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near death bump
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Whoaa bamp!!!
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>>180206869
>carries have more than 50

wtf no they don't, no one builds over 30 naturally
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>>180211189
Basic Armor, friendo. Rev has 18 (+2) according to the wiki.
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>>180211189
No, you fucking idiot
Revenant has 46 basic armor, Yin has 50, Serath has above 50 and I think Wukong is around 30
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Win bamp
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losing streak bump
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continued losing streak bump
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Loss bamp
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>>180192618
Or, it's 80% tongue in cheek and you're buttsore over literally nothing
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>>180195814
>>180192618
who are you and why would i care
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>>180199625
shinbi should really go offlane every midlaner wrecks her
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>>180199625
She deals with Morigesh decently though, her sustain + a healer token doesn't make Morigesh an issue
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this game is so much better when you play on a smurf account. its nice not having to care about other peoples bullshit

>retarded narbash taking my last hits. tell him if he takes one more im going left he walks straight up to a minion and takes it and i walk across the map while he spams the i need help ping. 10 minutes later he's died 5-6 times to ganks and lost the T1 and T2 already

its hilarious how pissed off people get once they realize you literally don't care and won't tolerate the bullshit they usually get away.
most people though are actually really nice ive been teaching the supports i play with to freeze lanes and why its a good thing, had a game where me and my support were 3 levels higher than the offlaner just because i told him how its not the best idea to immediately push into tower and he actually listened
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i just got a key from a silver chest, why are diamonds the worst varient of chest to have
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stayin alive
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Bedtime bamp.
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you're especially dead tonight /parag/
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>>180228912
Been trying to get into this game, and I've been playing MOBAs for a long time, it frustrates me that people don't have simple knowledge about the game and even more frustrating that people seem to do stuff on purpose to make it worse for everyone else.

That on top of the card system, I don't know if I'll make it 12 days.
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>>180237861
i used to be one of those people who said the card system really wasn't as big of a deal as people made it out to be but now that they've changed cards around it absolutely is a massive and unfair entry barrier. cards like thermo, hemorrhage or stasis gem are must haves and when you add that on top of not being able to get quick stats by building a bunch of 6-6-6-6 cards quickly it really puts newer players at a big disadvantage. its not ever enough to where you can't win but on the smurf my early game is terrible every match because i have to build two 9 point cards so i can't really do anything until 10-15 minutes in.
stick with it though the game gets fun if you tolerate the bullshit and buy enough card packs
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The card system is not hard to understand. Even just starting out, you can watch a YouTube vid that gives a detailed explanation on the card system. What's wrong with the card system is the part about not having any good cards and no fucking minor strikes
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>>180196581
next OP make sure to highlight that phase is getting nerfed finally. if we get everyone that left because of her back our amount of active posters might go all the way up in the double digits
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bedtime bump
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>>180202278
basic pen is pretty worthless actually. if you want more damage build crit
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I played Paragon today and I had fun.
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>>180239805
>Lowers base hp by 10
>Abilities only add 10 hp regen
>Slightly higher mana cost on the blind
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>>180228912
Low Elo is a crazy place
>laning Khaimera that runs straight at the Phase/ Twinblast and dies four times in a row
>"master" Offlane Countess that takes Bloodsoaked Armour as their first card
card
>Dekker whose first card is Celestine Diamond
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>>180192618
>the only reason i refuse to post is because of you faggots having wet dreams over 3d femme in a beta games
Man you must get like, tons of pussy/dick dood.
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>>180242470
not him but I understand why he wants it to stop before it gets too bad. go look at the fgg sniffposting
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>>180241296
Lies
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>>180195814
>>180192618
>>180242760
>go look at the fgg sniffposting
Okay fair enough but it's not like that's what the majority of the general consists of.
After that last bitch-ass post there was posts about armor/pen, smurfing and the card system.
If you don't want to get butthurt about certain posts then bring up another interesting topic
>inb4 dsl's more interesting
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Is Crunch good or just a novelty character?
I always wanted to try him out and I just got a skin so I figure now I've got some incentive
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>>180243257
i agree we have a really good balance between funposting and actual discussion currently. if people want to talk about the game someone always will and if someone wants to talk about if seraths bush also changes color when she ults when nothing is going on to keep the thread alive then im fine with that. if we get to the point where we have literally 100's of posts per thread of people doing nothing but talking about waifus and any actual game discussion gets ignored then i think we would have a problem. i think /parag/ is in a great state considering what this game is right now

>>180243728
hes a pubstomper but in higher level games he's just not able to compete with someone like a grux or sev overall and he can't really go offlane like a kwang could. not really a bad character but more in the narbash role currently where theres just no real reason to play him. he's fun as fuck though.
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Do we have enough people here to organise teams? I know the general's dead a lot of the time, but if we could work out a standard time for when folk are usually available, we could probably set something up. Also: does anyone know how bad latency would be for one region trying to play on another's server? How bad would Yuro's fare on the NA server, for example.
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>>180246294
we tried once and it didn't go that well. i dont think ping would be that much of an issue except for the aussies if we have any of those
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>>180246739
Bummer. Soon, then.
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>>180246823
yep we should be good for running customs or partying up in due time but currently we barely have enough people here to where the thread doesn't get purged every 2-3 days
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Anyone else get the feeling that, when Epic finally add this "fun, more fast-paced 3v3 mode" they've been threatening to release, the game will just become that, and the 5v5 moba will fall to the wayside?
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>>180248270
I think it'll be more just like how there's LoL and HotS. A mode that people will make fun of casuals for playing, and a mode that casuals will make fun of tryhards for playing
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Why dude, I can't catch a fucking break. I'm dropping to gold and I keep getting met with bad luck. I find myself to be a pretty good Countess but every time I play her something goes wrong.
>playing Countess
>steam roll the enemy team
>all of a sudden our Khaimera dcs
>I guess Gideon was his partner and he mentions that his friend had a power outage and he'll have one soon
>our Gideon gets upset because he said we aren't winning fast enough
>they get wiped, we lose
Holy shit dude, this happens to every new hero I touch too, either I get matched up with shitters or something else goes wrong. I'm fucking sick of it and I don't know what to do.
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>>180248587
Nothing you can do except hope the next match goes better or add good players you encounter during matches.
Trust me man I know your struggle, I keep playing during huehue hours even though I should know better by now
>jajajajajajajaja PUTA GRINGO chupar tu mama CARALJO
>Proceeds to jump into 1v3's
>USELESS PUSSY TEAM
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I wonder if Epic thinks letting the game go for a month without needed balance changes is long-term viable.
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>>180249609
the internal testing games are fine get good faggot
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>>180249730
This is a good meme
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>>180249730
Todd Howard tier meme.
Honestly, I don't know how this guy thinks some shit is okay the way it is, the funny thing is that he/they listen to Reddit to fucking much sometimes, or at least used to.
Back in Legacy, they would make balance changes every week but Reddit started complaining about how they were making balance changes too quickly and the community needed to settle on them before they should keep balancing heroes. Well, they listened to Reddit and this is where we're at now.
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First game of the day
>enemy team is Khaimera, Wukong, Greystone, Steel and Rampage
>Steel and Rampage are clearly a premade because they travel everywhre together
>by everywhere, I mean down the same lane for the entire game split pushing towers
>Rampage just ults and tanks tower aggro while they take tower after tower
>wukong also splits and takes prime whenever he feels like it
>try to engage Khaimera, Wukong or Greystone one on one and the other two rotate on you in seconds
That was the least fun I've had in a while, although Radiant Greystone with Eldermage and Tempered Plate is pretty great (I was able to 1 v 2 most of them, but all of them except Khaimera just used their escapes when I nerarly had them dead, and Khai always got help). Maddening.
Still went 8-3-12, but that's nothing new: my KDA as Grey is 3.94, but my winrate is only 28% despite split pushing as hard as I can every game.
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you werent gay today epic good job
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>>180251947
ラッキー!
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Just found out I don't have enough space on my harddrive to install the update. Time to delete copious amounts of pornography.
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patch notes where!?
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>>180253780
https://www.epicgames.com/paragon/en-US/news/v-40-5-release-notes
its just skins like usual
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>>180251947
My seething jealousy is evidence of congrats
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>>180253539
>>180251947
now i want snuggie sparrow
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back from a Paragon break, first game 15-4 with sparrow. this gen is so comfy I just wish there were more people here.
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>its a khai wanders into the jungle to clear camps when the enemy team has prime and is attacking an inhib episode
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>>180256643
There seems to be a peak of discussion, then it's back to keeping it bumped with cleverly crafted posts aimed at generating discussion/ controversy.
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Man, Iggy's a fantastic support: just went 3-3-12 following Sparrow around locking down kills.
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Wake up bamp
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This game is fucking baffling to me

Is there a video that will explain shit to me? The cards system doesn't make sense
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>>180260715
There are a few one utube. What are you having trouble with?
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>>180260715
What don't you understand about the card system?

There are many videos about Paragon, i don't have a link for you, but you could try to search on youtube for what you are looking for.

But maybe here is a anon who can help you, if you explain the issue.
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>>180260715
You have up to six slots you can use (4 active, ie cards that you use by pressing 1-4 which each provide an effect), and 2 passive, but passives can also be put in active slots. Passives are cards that increase your stats or provide some benefit (like reducing enemy healing). You make a deck that generally adds up to 60 points (the initial card cost, plus the upgrades that you slot into them). Supports don't really have to worry about making an optimal 60 point deck, they just need the effects of the cards they use.
In the early-to-mid game, you want cheap cards filled with cheap upgrades (you won't have many of these as a new player: keep playing and earn rep to buy card packs; leveling up also gets you cards and packs, as does completing the daily challenges and unlocking chests) to take advantage of the "fully upgraded bonuses" listed on a lot of cards, but as you transition into your final build, you'll be replacing those for more expensive cards.
Essentials: Wards.
For ADC's, attack speed, crit and lifesteal with your damage.
Bruisers and frontliners build armour and damage, rarely crit.
Casters build ability penetration (usually 30 points worth).
There, all done.
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>>180241296
Me too


>Lord's Ward
>Quenching Scales
>Barrier of Will
>Cast Converter
>Stasis Gem

I've been wondering which of these should I discard for the other.
I usually start a match with the ward, but I need to pick one to discard by end-game
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>>180261791
quenching, barrier or cast converter depending on team comp. always have stasis since Ult-Blind-Stasis-Blind makes you basically invincible for 9 whole seconds so even when they do dive you they can't do shit
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>>180261791
>only 2 kills
Kek, lern how to play, kido.

It should be 20/1/2 if you want to be a good player like me.
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bump
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What's the best hero for a new player?
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>>180263508
greystone
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>>180264185
This.

Khaimera is also pretty easy.
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>>180265307
Don't recommend a shit hero to him. He's gonna get mad when he goes for the sick gank and gets eaten alive every time. I want people to keep playing Paragon, not quit.
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>>180264185
Yup. Build him with Eldermage Amulets, Amulet of The Veteran and Tempered Plates for maximum survivability while still getting some damage. That said, he'll teach you bad habits because other heroes are more dependent on positioning, and won't be able to survive in a fight for nearly as long.
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Is TwinBlast legit for someone new? Or Sparrow?

I like ranged.
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>>180265618
twin is fine don't play sparrow until you understand how to position yourself in fights
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>>180265618
Sparrow has the best bush and the best pacing to land every shot accurately imo. She can also snipe weak targets running away.
Twinblast has the best quick burst damage output and easier wave clear.
I've been playing Sparrow since day one and love sniping people.
I dabble twinblast every now and then whenever I have the "deadbeat badass dad with 2 guns" urge.
Both are fun, I enjoy Sparrow more
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Gideon seems pretty fun

In fact they all seem pretty fun

I just started playing and it seems everyone else fucking sucks so when I start playing against good opponents I'm guessing it changes
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>>180268262
Gideon is simple but hard to play against good opponents. Ez mid would be morigesh
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>>180268459
Who is good for ratting
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I'm not a midlane player, but i think that Gideon is not the best choice to play.
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>>180268506
Howi and Belica are the top mids
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New frontliner like best boy Kwang when?
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I finally have a Kwang deck.

Going to try him in my next game.

I hope he is as good as you faggots told me.
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>>180271503
do our boy proud
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what do you guys think of the new hero grey fox
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>>180271881
Well from the dataming he seems to be a ranged caster with a teleport. Sounds like more insane power creep to me but I'm excited. I primarily play the offlane and mid lane so someone who isn't Howie, Belica, Gadget sounds fine to me.
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>>180272019
>new caster
dank, need more variety there and in the jungle
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>>180272019
We've been playtesting this new hero for over a year now he's completely balanced.
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>>180272321
Oh shut the fuck up you and your plastic elo testers can't get shit right.
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>>180272471
It would be shame if someone forgot to roll out that phase rebalance next week wouldn't it anon
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What the fuck am I supposed to do when my team doesn't communicate or group up whilst the enemy team moves together? These retards probably think they're splitpushing gods but they literally get nothing done except make sure the enemy team fucks us as 5.
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>>180272801
spam careful X lane until the pings time out and then good job them after they die anyway
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>>180272757
Hey man that's going to far just hold on a minute.
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>>180273093
maybe you should buy some loot crates as an apology
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>>180268481
What, chipping towers and getting away? Wukong or Kallari, probably, but don't play Kallari because you'll suck with her.
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>>180271503
Learn to lead his tether: it's tricky, especially on a moving target that knows it's coming. Only use it as an initiator when you have no other choice, otherwise save it. It's a good last resort escape when being chased, too.
>run run run
>throw
>run run run
>turn corners, make sure enough distance has past between your sword and your pursuers
>ult to safety

His ult slows whoever he hits with it, and is a guaranteed hit if someone's in your tether, so upgrade the tether to level two for an easier time securing targets. Use your lightning after you ult in: it's got an AOE that should hit the slowed target (using it while they're tethered wastes your time and makes it likely that they'll get away early game).

If you see an attack incoming, use his lightning to armour up in anticipation (it's hilarious doing it as Aurora's ult starts to proc, only for it to do zero damage). Takes the sting out of Obliterate, too, but not by much.

Learn your matchups: Kwang can ruin any squishy 1v1, and if you build him with Bloodsoaked armour, he can stand up to other bruisers, too. Bloodsoaked also helps when taking Raptors and Prime, while giving him his mandatory armour card, too.

I know you didn't ask, but there's the benefit of my experience with Kwang: do well with him, you fuck.
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>>180272757
>filename
Fuck, I laughed. A true /parag/ meme was born that Community Corner.
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>>180271881
>grey fox
Dude don't even joke about that
I'm still in rehab over mgs5 and a hero even reminiscent of gray fox or any cyborg ninja for that matter would make me play this game more than I already don't want to
Not Khallari though. She's cool but meh at the same time to me. Maybe if she gets buffed I'll take interest or something idk
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>>180274535
>not running the /parag/ meme dreamteam of Sparrow/Serath/Yin, a right lane Greystone and a Kwang every match
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>>180275262
You joke, but I've seen far worse compositions in the last few days, and the few comps that were good were tainted with retardation, like our midlaner deciding they were just goping to duo offlane instead, and fuck mid tower.
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>>180274412
Thank you for the tips.

Should i go jungle or offlane with him?

I thought jungle is the best option, sadly somebody is always picking jungle before i can...
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>>180276269
hes great in either i'd go jungle if you're not that great at knowing when to splitpush
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>>180273007
This.
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Just intentionally disconnected for what I think is the first time. I told them I would if they didn't surrender, so fair warning. Why do people try playing roles and characters that the have no idea about? There was a feeder offlane Countess that kept running straight at a Phase/ Murdock(they were at 0-7 when I left at 16 minutes), and a midlane Gadget who used all of their mana in the first minute. Meanwhile, the enemy team had two smurfs on it. What am I to do in a situation like that? Be a good little Redditfag and see the match through, even if it's going to give me an aneurysm?
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>>180277558
accept the loss and do the best you can concerning your own individual performance instead of being a little crybaby fag about it and leaving
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>>180277938
not everyone is underage with all day waste
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>>180278516
you have enough time to not only play a video game but come on a taiwanese picturebook forum to bitch about it so i dont think your schedule is swamped
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>>180279257
Anon i think your game is bugged or something. it's all gibberish where the words should be
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Is Countess a glass cannon?
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>>180280429
Yes
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>>180280429
No she's a waifu
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>>180277938
>accept the loss
Absolutely fucking not: the amount of games I've lost because of bad teams is shocking, and I'm sick of being the only person on a team that knows what the fuck they're doing.
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>>180279832
Kek
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bump
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Can't wait to see how big this game becomes. I'm optimistic.
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>>180284147
I will become the new league og legends.

Only better and more fun.
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What's the 411 on the lore ?
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>>180284440
As of now, all we have are the three bullet points for each person on their abilities screen, and the descriptions for some of the skins

And this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7O9cVT_nS48&t=14s
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>>180213242
>(.75 x 15 ) + 18

that's not 50 retard where the fuck are you getting this shit?
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>>180284826
I mean a general premise
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>>180285109
https://paragondb.info/calc
He's right homie. Yin has 50, Serath has 53, Wu Wuz has 30
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is anyone else afraid of the future card rework? thinking about it now the card system isn't too confusing it just takes a bit of time to understand. I feel like i've seen numerous people complain and say "new players don't understand the cards" which is true but also they didn't put the time in yet to understand them. But I'm afraid epic is going to dumb down cards and the worst case they get rid of deck building completely.

>pick kwang
> pick between jungle or offlane items that ebin has premade/selected/different item kits you buy with real money
>can't make your own deck anymore

or am i just fearing for the worst?
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bump
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>>180287437
I have the same fear.

I like the card system how it is now.

Really hope they don't change much...
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>>180287437
Honestly, I think it has the potential to make for more dynamic matches if you can buy from a large pool to counter what the enemy is building/ playing. That's how it's done in other moba's, right?
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>>180288946
There's plenty of opportunity for preemptive countering as it is, right? Do people throw situational cards in decks at all?
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ded tred
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>>180277558
>Why do people try playing roles and characters that the have no idea about?

For me, I don't want to be stuck playing support for the rest of my life. It is pretty much the only role I'm good at.
However, I made an alt account to play other roles/heroes I'm not good at since it's not going to hinder people who are actually good at the game if I'm playing in silver
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>>180291094
What's dodging?
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>>180292069
>In draft lobby
>teammates pick
>Kallari
>Riktor
>Grim
>Shinbi
>some other shit pick
>think "fuck this, I'm out"
>close game
the end
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>>180291094
Not really, just slow.
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>>180291323
I could forgive it if the information wasn't a mouse click away
>youtube
>Paragon how to offlane
Today, I've had two Wukong's and a Countess edge me out of offlane, and all three of them ran directly at the Phase/ Carry team like they had a chance of actually doing anything other than dying. Then they spam "defend left lane" "I need help" and I have to leave the role I didn't want in the first place to come babysit their lane so they can come back and do the same fucking thing again.
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>get put in against a 4 stack and a Phase from a higher Elo bracket
>"Damn, I musta been in with a 4 stack, too"
>nope, all solo q
>our Phase had less than 30 games somehow
How did that even happen?
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>>180276269
He's great in both, huge sustain in the offlane with his passive + healer token start and he gets a free siphon with his passive in the jungle

To add to what >>180274412 said, if you use your lightning before you ult in, you're basically wasting the armor buff and finisher you might need if the enemy decides to jump on you for hitting their carry

Bloadsoaked is great on him but I don't use it because I forget to pop it and you'd rather have the armor stats on a Tempered Plate if you aren't gonna pop it.

In a 1v1, if your target is moving all over the place, and you just need to get your ult off to finish them off but don't want to waste a tether, jump and ult while in the air to their direction to get a jumping ultimate off
It's unexpected, easy to pull off if you can predict where they're strafing and really effective.

Also, prioritize your lightning at all times because the mana cost remains the same (65) throughout all the levels but the damage ramps up, then prioritize your tether until you have it to level 3 and then switch to maxing your passive. You shouldn't really have your passive leveled up before your lightning and a couple levels on your tether. Of course, get your ult whenever it's up too
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>everyone on your team feeds hard but you
Nah, get good and carry tho
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i have played all of 4 bot games

i'm not new to mobas, so i know bot games are hardly representative of actual games, however i use them to learn the gameplay and concepts (such as the card stuff)

how much faster-paced and difficult is pvp? I can tell the bots are pants-on-head retarded, and I'm no great player, but i feel if the pvp is faster and more intense it'd be quite fun
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>>180293070
Maybe it's because I already have decent moba experience, but I at least know how to not be a floundering retard that feeds all game.
It is mindboggling to me when i see people going 0/15 or higher.

That being said, when I first started I was doing shit like gadget offlane and greystone support. I haven't watched a single vid on how to do anything in this game, because personally I learn more from experience and actually doing stuff myself rather than watching it/being told how to do something. Tips from people are always handy but I find it hard to put it into practice until I do something myself, it'll only really "click" then.

Just like, having been playing support I have basic paragon knowledge of other roles, but I'm kind of clueless in them until i feel them out. In offlane, it's hard for me to gauge when I should be split pushing or if I should join up to help another lane. It gets even harder if I'm playing something like aurora offlane with no waveclear so i can't realistically splitpush efficiently. Also feels like everytime I try setting the lane, the duo is immediately back over there to reset in their favor, so I have to turn back almost immediately after I leave.

In mid my positioning matters even more than support, it's a bit stressful to be watching all areas of the map while also trying to last hit as every other person in the game comes to my lane to constantly push it out. I finally get the lane in the middle? Jungler comes and pushes it out. Hooray it's back in the midd--oh nevermind the carry and supp have rotated over to push it out and leave again. It's actually caused me to get behind on levels before, since I couldn't afford a ward yet and going up to enemy tower with no vision is a death wish.
And once again, I'm not very good at knowing when I should rotate from mid to go somewhere else.
I'd rather practice these things I'm bad at on a low elo account and get this sort of mechanical knowledge.
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Is this game playable on the PS4?
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>>180297301
Yes
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>>180297301
Yep. but if you do it, you're automatically a shitter
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>>180295868
PvP is definitely faster: rotations, team fights and ganks really keep things moving.
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>>180286109
The loading screen before matches explains everything
Not even kidding
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>>180289813
I have general decks and then maybe special stasis decks for my mains if I see a morigesh, aurora or some hero with that kind of ult.
For casters I either have mana regen or damage output, if not a mix of mana regen early and discard those for damage late game.
That's about it
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>>180296637
Put a Thunder Cleaver in your Aurora deck. Asw for splitting, I'll tell you what /parafg told me: your team won't lose the game if a few team fights go bad early, and pressuring lanes both draws enemies away from those fights and gives your team opportunities to make plays elsewhere. If the enemy team are too stupid to rotate to attend to their lanes, you're getting damage on objectives: long term play over short term. Your team might piss and moan that you're not around to die with them, but fuck them.
Something I like to do as an offlaner if wait for the wave to push to my t2 (farm the offlane jungle in the meantime) then clear a wave, set the next one and go hard push mid or maybe invade the enemy jungle closest to the river opening if I know where their jungler is.
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which paladin would you fug
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>>180300935
Oops

I mean which paragon would you fug
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>>180300996
.EXE
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>>180300010
never thought of trying to go into their jungle, but that makes sense.
thanks for the tips friend!
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THIS FUCKING GAMES COMMUNITY FFS THE WORST!

literally had a guy go
>I don't pick gross OP heroes
in reference to not picking phase my team won because I snowballed hard as fuck as Rev but it could've gone smoother

had another idiot pick offlane Ricktor vs Phase and Sparrow, I told him he could play Kwang or Grey if he wanted to offlane tank, not only did they destroy him but he tried to solo lane push a kallari

enemy team had Phase we had muriel on that note WHAT THE FUCK IS WITH MURIEL?

why are all these idiots playing her now? is it because of the reference in the notes? that's not a hint to just drop Phase especially a fucking week before her "nerf" we don't even know if they'll gut her like Aurora or "balance" her.

fuck....I'm seriously beginning to think paragon won't be worth playing until it's declared live and even then maybe have to wait like a few months before shitters learn how to actually play emcompassing all skills from proper laning to counter picking and meta picking, because atm only the top 10% in this game are worth playing with and against.
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>>180304017
You see those teams you were on? The other team weren't that retarded, so at leaset half of the people you played with today weren't completely incompetent. That said, I know exactly where you're coming from because the matchmaking likes to put me in with the special ed' class against seasoned pros every fucking game. You'd think there would be a better distribution, but the game says no.
tl;dr - it's the luck of the draw, you just happen to be particularly unlucky.
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>>180286718
>Melee carry that can extend her range to normal ranged carry 50 arm
>Melee carry that has I frame caster range ability that does full dmg and crt 50am

>Melee carry with no long range poke (only a push that does shit dmg) 30 arm

what the fuck kind of design is this? Cameron is an absolute idiot who the fuck balances games like this?
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Wtf i hate Kwang now???

I played two games with him and was pretty average.
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got stuck in the shadow buff, gave the entire game at nighttime feel
it was pretty great, the shadow buff and bullying Morigesh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p9-DUjdf8k
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murdock fucking sucks
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I'm legitimately mad as fuck about this

It's literally better to have a player disconnect at the start than have one fucking run into the enemy constantly
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>>180309985
>Those team comps
Are you in silver?
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>>180310276
I'm still learning the game. I'm just annoyed that someone who has clearly never actually tried the game before is allowed to play in a legitimate match.
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>>180310921
I've been playing since before open beta and I have still been matched with people who have played under 10 games. Just get used to shit matchmaking and teammates because it isn't going to change till they do an overhaul.
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>>180268481

I like Twin Blast for this.
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>>180305264

Kwang doesn't suck. [spolier]You do.[spolier]
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>>180311820

I spolied my spoiler.
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>>180311820
I'm not gonna lie, i'm not the best player.

But i mean he wasn't bad, i just do better with other heroes. Maybe i just need a thicc bush for my main.

>inb4 Kwang has a thicc bush
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>>180314129
kwang has a trimmed landing strip leading to his ching chong dong
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Post your last match's theme
https://youtu.be/nOr0na6mKJQ
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>>180314129
>not maining a bush harem and our boy
step it up
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>>180318405
I'd be more proud if that wasn't a file for ants
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>>180318612
here you go i made it 4k just for you
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>>180319090
Aw ye dats de gud stuf
Nice quads btw
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>tfw not that great but not shit either
>tfw have to deal with silver elo morons like the obviously new Rev player who stood in front of core at beginning of match and used obliterate to see how it works

that match was fucking trash. My team was Grim(me) wukong, Rev, Phase, Howitzer.

Howitzer quit match immediately and Rev and Kong fed like fucking faggots
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>>180316028
Hot
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>>180321057
I've heard that building a good gresytone is the one way to force yourself out of wood leagues.
You'll need to grind for good cards, but check out Greystone decks on agora.gg
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>>180321454
i might try that out. one of the reasons i'm probably still silver is cuz i stopped playing for several months. I think kwang was the last character I had seen the release for. Or maybe it was belica.
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>>180310921
Yeah, you have like 5 games total. You are going to be matched to low game count players for a bit till you grind out of it. You are complaining about people who are in their third match. New players suck but that is what being new is. Start whining when you get these shitters in plat.
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>>180321682
It was the exact same for me.

I stopped playing after Kwang was released and started again right after Phase was released The weird thing is that i have this spooky mandela effect thing going on with Serath, but i won't bother you guys with it again...

Now i'm stuck in silver with shit teammates...
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>>180321454
greystone is fun and can hardcarry most teams. Here is what I use in plat but you can get away with more damage and maybe crit build in wood league.
https://www.epicgames.com/paragon/deckbuilder/en-US/decks/Cheshh/69cee3c5-f16c-4e33-ac3d-d0bff273c499
also you can swap the late game windcarver for powerchord to help with phases bullshit. This lets you pretty much never fucking die if you play smart. I will admit I haven't played in a bit though so this build might already be obsolete.
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>>180322069
Everytime i see Serath from far away i keep thinking it's Muriel. When I stopped playing she was in like every match.
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>>180322136
I'll try that one out niqqa. Last time i made a greystone deck, cool down reduction was still a thing and I tried to get his Ult cool down as small as possible.
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>>180322485
You shouldn't really need the ult too often. I try not to rely on it at least.
Also, small tip to help offlane farm. You can use his leap to hop up to their gold. Get that shit on timer. They never expect that for some reason.
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near death bumb
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So uhh, Feng Mao. What a hoss
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Phase still freelo bump
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>>180175843
>no bikini Belica skin showing off her toned stomach and butt
>no Serath in a conservative onepiece that still shows off her milfy curves
>no g-string Countess with that thicc ass
>no spring break Dekker unwinding after long hours in the lab
>no ice bikini Aurora that slowly melts off through the match
>no overly extravagant and royally embroidered Sparrow bikini that doesn't even attempt to hide her natural gifts
this is how you disguise your bumps boys
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>>180325356
I'm Kwang, and this is my Jungle. I work here with my dad Sevarog and my mentor Feng Mao, aka Big Hoss. Everything in here has a story and card points. One thing I've learned after dropping to wood elo - you never know WHAT is gonna come through that river.
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>>180325676
>no phase or fey
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>>180326268
high quality shitpost
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>>180326438
fey already wears a bikini and phase is just a tumblr thot with no ass
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>>180327120
thot?
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>>180325676
>no Morigesh
She is the hottest of ALL of them!

Just imagine her huge thicc bush!
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Bedtime bamp

See you tomorrow.
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>>180327362
Woman of ill repute and much DICK.

What specific nerfs would you guys like to see on Phase? They obviously can't remake her, so the abilities have to remain basically the same.
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>>180329842
longer cooldown on her blind less range on her slow/root everything else is fine desu
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>>180329842
>What specific nerfs would you guys like to see on Phase? They obviously can't remake her, so the abilities have to remain basically the same.
nonsense they reworked murdock for no reason they can easily make phase not be retarded.

>remove her insane fucking ult
>change blind to her ult 3-4-6 second duration 40 seconds cooldown. gives her a big AOE ability like the other supports on a short cooldown to make up for it not being a true CC while removing the constant blind bullshit
>slow beam does no damage to prevent tainted bullshit and requires all hits to root
>tether goes on cooldown if it breaks its fucking retarded you can ult someone she's linked to with sev and then she can just run up and pull them back anyway
>she no longer gets regen from using abilities only her link does
>her Q is now a burst of basic armor and movement speed for 1-2-3-4 seconds to her or her link. this stays in style with her current ult and overall theme of providing buffs while not being fucking retarded bullshit. it also gives her a little bit of an escape since she can't just spam blinds anymore
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>First loss as Morigesh
>Game starts with safe lane overextending like idiots, I pick up a kill before the minions come
>The Rev still manages to die to the enemy rev very soon after this
>Murdock rotates
>Me: "inc left"
>Safe lane does not move from the enemy tower
>10 seconds later
>"Enemy double kill"
>Twinblast manages to be more useful than Rev for the entirety of the game, melting towers as opposed to running into 4 people alone
>Gadget does nothing but push right lane all game
>Me: "Could the support please not be the one constantly split pushing"
>Gadget: "Could you stop bitching"
>Gadget: "It must be hard getting so emotional over video games :("
>literally the first thing I said
>Leaves the second an inhib goes down
>but Im the emotional one
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>>180333087
>those builds
>those team comps
>that match summary
what the fuck is this shit is this unironically bronze
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>>180333087
there is no support in that match lol
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>>180330148
So the ult that just says "this tower is mine" with one minion wave is okay?
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good night /parag/ we almost made it a whole week so dont let me down now and die and remember that serath bush is best bush
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>>180331159
these aren't bad. Her healing potential needs to be addressed though. Good poke and commit are key to winning lane advantage and phase removes all of this. Heals should come at a cost of resource. Her entire kit was a fuck you to any facets of game balance.
This is assuming EPIC wants this to be a moba and not a fucking hero tdm.
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>>180306352
Must I say this video contains some sweet Kwang tether's in this video to get some hot (You)'s
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>>180336980
Vids like these always make me want to stop building tanky kwang and go for burst. I just carry so much better with tanky builds but deleting shitters looks so fun.
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does phase need a nerf?
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>>180338428
no
>she needs to be removed
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>>180338428
nope
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>>180326268
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Should I try every character and keep a log of which I'm best at before moving into finding ones to main?
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>>180340193
no you should try what characters interest you and main the one you find the most fun to play
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>>180340316
Who is interested in fun? This is a moba.
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>>180337825
My build isn't full damage either, I'm very bulky and can be very tanky against team comps that build that lean towards a specific damage type. It's a bit of a hybrid build with great burst and tank capabilities.
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i had fun playing this game today
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dont die plz
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>>180316028

I lol'd

Take your damn updoot, sir :)
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>>180322136
I always do exceptionally well with Grey (my KDA is 6ish), but my winrate is sub-30%. I split push like a fiend, but it's never enough: I see this "Grey can carry" shit, but I don't believe it.
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>>180327362
>>180329842
thot is actually shorthand for "that hoe over there"
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>>180346415
The more you know. I mean, it's completely worthless information, but still.
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bump
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bump
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good morning /parag/
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>>180351250
Good morning. Two games, two wins, but one was so terribly stressful that I hardly count it as a win. Yourself?
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Why is the waiting for players thing so fucking long

If someone's not going to connect they're not going to connect, why are you making me wait fucking two minutes
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>>180352374
Because sometimes they do connect, and it's apparently impossible for the game to tell an intentional disconnect from an unintentional disconnect.
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Should I risk another loss or call it quits for today, /parag/? Bear in mind, today has just begun and I have a crippling need to escape reality.
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>>180353219
quit
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>>180354064
O-okay
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Bump
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>first pick in draft locks in Muriel
>"Phase hasn't been nerfed just yet m8: Muriel's still trash"
>"Well fuck: haven't played in a year, don't know the meta"
>draft aborting
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>>180355415
I had a similar thing a few days ago.

>First player picks muriel
>Somebody of our team spams that he should change the hero
>and pick revenant instead
>first guy just locks in muriel
>annoying guy starts telling us that we need a support
Apparently he thought Muriel is an adc?
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>>180355415
>Not locking in Narbash the GOAT support first.
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>>180356127
I actually prefer being supported by Narbash. He is good.

Also, for some reason i hate it when i'm the carry and am supported by Phase. It happened so many times to me that i almost killed an enemy until he was oneshot, then Phase appeared, pulled me back and finished him herself. I wouldn't even care if she last hits him, but the fact that she is pulling me back on purpose is so annoying.

But i guess thats how it is when you are only silver. Kallari teammates are even worse than Phase. They do nothing, don't jungle, don't help on any lanes, don't kill minions, but then they suddenly appear and last hit the hero you were about to kill. They are lacking at least 3 levels behind everybody else, but who cares, at least he got the kill, kek.
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>>180271881
So this is the week that ebin releases a 5 second obscure "teaser" for the new hero only that for us to really know anything or see anything until the overview right?
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"With your help, the O.P.D. has caught another suspect"
I know that it probably doesn't change much except one less shitter that has to make a new account, but damn does it warm up my nuts to see this when I log in.
>Eat shit Khaimera that kept pinging good job every time you died in a 1v3
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>>180357163
>has to make a new account
Do they really get banned for it?

I heard that they don't get rewards for a few days or so. Don't know what really happens though. But getting banned because you spammed "good job" sound a little too hard.

I had one in my friendlist who left a game in the first minute to play call of duty instead, and i reported him afterwards. I got the message, and he never played Paragon after that, so it might mean that he actually got banned.
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>>180357598
considering ive been calling people faggot retards for months now and nothing has happened to me i doubt they even do anything and they just give you that screen so you can feel better and then post it on reddit so everyone can circlejerk about how ebin really cares
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>>180355715
>ADC Muriel
What a trip.

>>180356127
Narbash is my favourite support: guy has so much character. Pity Phase exists.
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>>180357746
I use him anyway, If I'm getting forced to play support I'm gonna have fun.
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>>180357598
There was an anon a while back that said they had been suspended for three days for using profanity/slurs towards their teammates, so it was probably that
>getting banned because you spammed "good job" sound a little too hard.
I don't report people for just being annoying, it's when they want to be annoying AND feed up to 1/14/3
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Which is better, /parag/? Getting lots of kills but also having lots of deaths, or getting fewer kills but no deaths? Why?
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>>180357887
Getting the enemy core to 0%
"Good "K/D/A is dependent on role/Lane
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>>180357963
>"Good "K/D/A is dependent on role/Lane
I disagree. Anything over 3 is a "good" KDA, and it's not like that's hard to get.
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>>180358038
I disagree. It is not up to, say supports, to secure a good KDA if they don't need to
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>>180358251
A good support will be getting assists, though, and staying alive is important unless a support death directly translates to another teammate surviving. A good Phase will have double digit assists and maybe two deaths, for example.
Outside of supports, though: is it worth having someone who's always respawning if they're also racking up kills, or is it better to have someone who's less active in securing kills but is always in lane? I can see benefits to both, but I know which I'd prefer.
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What do I spend this shit on
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>>180358923
Cards packs and deck slots.
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>>180358826
I guess I had gotten "good" kda confused with "high" kda.
>Reading comprehension
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>>180358923
Hero masteries.
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>>180359095
This guy

>>180359212
Ignore this guy
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>>180359565
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>>180359169
Yeah, getting kills is all well and good, but if you're feeding at the same time it kind of defeats the purpose.
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>>180360760
I agree but I just want to say that sometimes, deaths can come from making necessary pushed for the objective, certain roles can have more deaths than others, while certain roles need to be as active on the field as possible
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Phase seems pretty good
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New hero hype

https://twitter.com/Paragon/status/877527200832114689
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>>180362191
>Sniper

Ah fuck
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>>180362191
>>180362474
can't wait for them paragon montages
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I hate it so much, my teammates are always shit.

>two tanks playing safe lane
>two adc's playing offlane
>i was supposed to be the jungler but ended up playing midlane because nobody cared about it.

I think i stop playing for a while, it's just no fun anymore.

Or maybe i will just make a new account and if my teammates play stupid, i'll just do the same? So i keep jungling while we lose both of our mid towers because nobody cares, for example.

It's working way better in lol, even the bad players there understand the basics of mobas
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>>180362191
>>180362474
>>180364139
MURDOCK LEFT BEHIND ON SUICIDE WATCH
HOW CAN HE EVER RECOVER
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What will happen if i leave while picking a character?

I never did it, but maybe i shoud start doing it, when my team seems to be bad.
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>>180366462
You get a dodge penalty which starts out at 4 minutes but increases.
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>>180365610
>call offlane in draft
>beg and plead for people to call lanes
>Steel says he'll support, Wukong doesn't list anything
>the three of us show up in offlane
>I have to jungle and our ADC gets no support
>Wu steals all of the jungle anyway
>Countess and Wu go 0-9 and 1-9 respectively, but refuse to surrender
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This in general really irks me. People used to do this all the time to my jungle Riktor, and then I won at an 80% winrate for 30 or so games and people started trusting me. They did the same thing when I started jungling Aurora to counter the Phases.
In general, I'm NEVER a fan of telling someone not to play something. If you have a plan in mind, can communicate it to the team and are able to execute on it consistently, IDC if you're playing Sevarog ADC (yes I've seen someone do this and he wrecked face).
MOBAs in general are about what YOU can do to be more effective than the enemy team, and the META (most effective tactic available) doesn't get developed or pushed if people aren't trying new things.
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>>180369418
>YOU can do to be more effective than the enemy team, and the META (most effective tactic available) doesn't get developed or pushed if people aren't trying new things.
In wood leagues maybe.
There is no denying that there are heroes and team compositions that perform in roles better others, allowing for out-of-meta games
But at the highest level of comp play, there are certain roles that deserve specific heroes and playstyles imo
I will concede that there are many team comps not tried out that could upset the entire balance/meta of the game thus far
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Just started playing, I'm on six wins, one loss.

Are people just trash tier at the start?
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>>180369909
Yes, and they will keep being trash.
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>>180369909
yeah but if you keep playing they'll know what lanes they're supposed to go to and feed in
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Last time i played was before they switched to the new map

My preferred heroes were Gideon, Howi and Muriel.

how fucked am i?
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>>180370757
>Gideon, Howi
Your only hope
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>>180370757
howie is top tier other 2 blow enjoy phase and rev
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If I want free ELO should I just play Phase and stick with the least incompetent team member?
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>>180371259
thats about as free as elo gets unless your mid is the only one who can play
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>>180371259
Imo, yes to the first part if your carry is competent. Generally no to the second part, to be frank, your job is to get your carry fed, so +80% of the time you're going to be on their nuts making them look good (exceptions: they're in position to split push, or you can help secure a kill/contest an objective)
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Won my first game as Gideon: guy hits like a wet noodle until about 40cxp.
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>>180372576
gideon is a caster anon
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>>180373203
No i think he is a carry or how you call them?

Because his abilities are really strong.

He might work better on the right lane.
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>>180373610 (You)
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>>180373804
>>180374101
Damn, you got me mates.
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your paragon waifu becomes real and loves you for the rest of your life but to keep her alive you must play 10 matches of paragon per day with only brazilian players as your teammates do you accept?
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So, I played a match last night after the latest update, which was just supposed to be some loot crate bullshit.

I played AI v P as Countess. I can pretty much burst down and delete any hero after the 15 minute mark.

Last night they were fucking invincible. Did anyone else have this happen?

Usually Countess' ult takes off almost half the health of Steel. It didn't do shit. As usual I lay down a blade siphon and dark tide to finish them off but it barley took him down to a third of health.

Was there some kind of stealth buff to AI? Or am I just stupid and/or crazy?
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>>180376102
steel has stacking ability armor
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>>180376102
His new passive (Those 4 blue things on his chest and back) give him ability amor out the asshole. 50 per blue thing at level 1
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>>180375982
>Every morning
>"JAJAJAJAJAJ PUTA GRINGO! TU MAMA CHUPAR"
>Feeds enemy team
>"PUSSY TEAM CARALJO"
Throughout the day
>Serath: Motherly and tenderly tending to my every need but risk dying because of ult
>Countess: Risk dying
>Sparrow: Leaves every night to be a thief. Probably would get caught and sentenced for life
>Phase: Probably would be an annoying tumblr thot
>Shinbi: K Pop star and would probably upgrade to a better husbando
>Belica: Workaholic and probably neglects intimate/social life
>Aurora: Probably a sadist
>Yin: Definitely a sadist
>Dekker: Everything in the name of science workaholic
>Gadget: Probably most practical waifu material. Probably doesn't shower though
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>>180376937

Yeah, but I was running a bunch of ability pen. As usual. I guess I'm just crazy.
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>>180377251
>50 per blue thing
>at level 1
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Add me Frail_Dell. North American player. Silver Elo but I'm a team player.
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>>180379989
If i am a yuro, could i still play with you, without changing my location?
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>>180369418
Hey Sundown you colossal dumbass
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>>180380667
Yes
Pretty sure the host of your group determines what region's servers you play on though. I'm NA and when I play with yuros, my ping and frame rate in the top left corner disappears (and suffers slightly), only happens when I join their groups. Anyone know for sure?
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>>180381249
>>180379989
Okay, then i'm interested. I'm silver, too. I'll add you.
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I'm also a ps4 player. Internet is shitting itself right now tho, was lagging against bots
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Bump
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>some joke about 3 carry comp
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>>180387692
3 carry? Make it 4 carries!
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I make a bamp.
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>>180389484
don't
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>>180389627
Stop me.

Protip: you can't
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Paragon Anime when?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRFdXP3mkkc
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>>180390414
LET'S FIGHTING LOVE
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>>180390414
I would be the first Anime i would watch.
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So im toying with the idea of satori cloak on dekker to shred armor for my carry. Opinions?
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>>180390883
owo
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>>180390992
Try it out, let us know it how it goes
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>>180390992
YEEEEEEEELLLLOW, ANON! JUST LETTING YOU KNOW THE MATH IS SOLID ON THAT ONE. SOLID AS A UMH A...... UHM... A ROCK!
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>>180390414
this is actually pretty cool
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Gimme a picture or title for the next thread
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bump
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>>180393456
This except ms paint it to look like murdoc
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Pre game bamp
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Done. Still need a title though
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fump
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bumo
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bunp
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jhbfyu
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azsxdcefvrgbhnjkmjnhbygfrxswzwsxedtgyjhygfrczsxdfhujn bfcrdcgbjm,
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Bamp
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>>180400098
>>180400747
>>180402306
>>180404932
>>180406271
>>180406986
>>180408228
whoa. . .
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>Twinblast and Narbash midlane
>Gideon and Yin safelane
W-what?

I told them how they should be, but Yin then wanted to "help" me on the offlane, (so we had no jungler) only to start insulting me and others for reasons i still don't understand.

Are the players in america as retarded as in europe?
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>>180399129
Hot pursuit edition?
Recalling enemy edition?
Revenant nerf incoming edition?
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im trying to reach bronze with a smurf account, i cant fuckin lose ffs, just once when i was afk.
how can i do that?
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New player here (On Day 6 I believe), what should I spend my 110k reputation on? I've bought a couple card packs and the this and last weeks weekly card pack but what's the best to do?
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>>180414251
buy the 10k card packs, even if you get shitty cards from them you can break them down so you can craft good ones
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Did I play it good?
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>>180417608
Yes.

That was a quick game.
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>>180417608
>>180417827
Just realized they didn't have a Belica,

Oh well, I was playing 1v2 and did good so I'm still not too sad.
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>>180417608
ring of the domina and drink the spirits aren't great for kwang but it's not terrible. you should probably make some starter cards though
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>>180420191
I made the deck and then realized my error of not having starter cards. I was completely alone so I decided to take them, I have no upgrades on them, they're just there as a sustain and last hit aid early on because I'm junk.
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>>180421245
like i said neither one is bad they just aren't ideal for kwang
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>>180421372
both those cards are terrible
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how to get good at shinbi?
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>>180421487
They seem pretty good to me, free ~50hp each time you last hit something and the other makes that easier while giving you some early game pudge.
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may as well hit the bump limit before the new thread
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>>180421559
learn to spam Q and get used to playing a single-target hero that can't teamfight well
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>>180421487
I like Domina on supports and fighters with poor clear.
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>>180425186
just buy thunder cleaver or one of the dot cards supports dont need wave clear
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>got a key from a gold chest on the account i only play sparrow on
>the single loot crate i had dropped rouge sparrow
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>>180427528
You say that, and then no one comes to take over securing a lane from the support.
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>>180417608
>>180420191
>>180421245
Don't be too nice, that build is fucking awful. You don't build crit on Kwang if you have an IQ above 2, Ring of Domina is a dead card, don't build it on anyone and who would think to build Drink the Spirits on Kwang if you already have a lifesteal passive? Just add on more fucking lifesteal, which isn't needed, if you want to be that kind of retarded.
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>>180431008
so? then you lose the lane its not your fucking job to baby it you're a support. quit trying to do everything and just do your job if your team is a bunch of shitter retards who can't even manage lanes you're going to lose anyway so you may as well do what you're supposed to do since it raises your odds of victory. if you get lucky you help them get a team wipe while they're playing tdm and win off it
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Domina on Morigesh. Y/N?
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>>180436215
its a terrible card dont use it on anyone
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Pre-game bump.
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is this worth keeping alive for 20 more posts
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>>180442781
we could just go in the morning
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>Last post an hour ago
I saved /parabush/
Thank me.
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>>180446828
>last post an hour ago
I saved /parabush/
Praise me.
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This didn't even feel fair

Why are people such shitters at the start of the game, and does it get better?
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>>180450423
No, it doesn't.
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>>180450573
Well shit

I've not even looked at the card system yet, I'm just using auto buy still, and I've only lost one game of the eight that I've played
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>>180450617
When i started playing i actually had fun, because i was able to compensate for my shitty teammates, but now the enemies are too good and my teammates are still stupid.
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bump
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>>180451764
Don't bump without content
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Who do you want to see a new skin for guys? I want a dank Narbash skin with him in armour or some shit, like a proper war drummer.
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>>180453287
Virgin Killing Sweater Belica.
If that's too much then Cadet Academy Belica will do
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>>180453287
>>180453287
I want a Muriel skin that turns her into a real woman.
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>>180453530
Need a Serath skin that turns her into a robot
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>>180453287
I want a Serath skin where i can see more of her ass.
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Tips for a Belica deck?
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>>180454905
Whatever you do, don't try to build her like a tank, like some other retards in this general
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>>180455186
>not building for sustainability and damage
have fun being a worthless glass cannon
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>>180454905
This is what I use. She is my best hero.

https://www.epicgames.com/paragon/deckbuilder/en-US/decks/Risky-Business/09e2098f-8c26-4c6e-8b2f-1357988684c6
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>>180455186
>>180455306
I'm so perplexed when it comes to adding durability to casters like her and Gideon. Plus I'm biased since I prefer tankier characters in general.
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New hero hype!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBeFejv7a0Y
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Ok, so i just commit a rule violation because my team was so stupid and annoying.

(was afk and sabotaged my own team to make the game end faster)

I guess i deserve it if i get banned, but the game is not even fun anymore for me at this point.
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>>180390414
>didn't use any crunch video
>that belica part

it could have been good
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>>180458115
You shouldn't que if you aren't willing to play a game all the way through you friggin dummy
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>>180458253
I'm not sorry for what i did.
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>>180457765
>Stealth ult when stealth is shit
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Should I bother getting into this? Only MOBA I've really liked has been DOTA1/2, haven't had good experiences with third person MOBAs (played Smite, was mind-numbingly boring).
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>haven't played since december
>pick Muriel because i liked playing her before even if she's not good now
>enemy has phase which i've heard things about
>2/0/13 and win

Anyway just wanna make sure I'm not building retarded on Muriel these days

>Starter
mana pot/health pot/ward
>early game
completed Circlet of health, Lord's Ward and start on quenching scales
>mid game
completed quenching scales, Tempus Pearl if i have 6 CP at a time, otherwise tempered plate/tuned barrier depending
>late
Tempus Pearl if not gotten earlier and either another Tempered plate or tuned barrier again, depending. Chronomancer disk if the enemy is doing fuck all damage to me.
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>>180458871
It is definitely better than Smite in my book, current "meta" included.

What did you like about DOTA, and what didn't you like about Smite?
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>>180454905
https://www.epicgames.com/paragon/deckbuilder/en-US/decks/wd1ssttos/03fbdc63-446c-4c8f-bdf4-a042a9432660

65% winrate in plat with bae

>>180453287
lewd serath sparrow and baelica skins

>>180459728
you need honor the pure
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>>180457765
an entire video with voice lines when the 13 default characters still don't have them
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>>180457765
I knew something looked familiar
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>>180457765
For some reason i really hate the new hero.
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>>180460847
They exist, senpai. Have for a long time. They just keep giving excuses for why they aren't in game.

https://youtu.be/zWaJhkxbgas
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>>180459897
What I like about DOTA is the balance (for all the bullshit, it's still less bullshit than most others) and the general tightness of the gameplay, it just works very well as a MOBA.

What I didn't like about Smite was that it was a mediocre third person action game (slow, unresponsive, dull combat) and a mediocre MOBA (messy visuals clouding tactical judgement, somehow managed to make the gods kinda boring, etc.), it just ended up trying to do both and did both badly.
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>>180457765
what did they change about the map here
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