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/4xg/ /cbg/ /rtsg/
Holy """Roman""" edition

ENDLESS SPACE 2
> Official and Unofficial Wiki
wiki.endless-space.com
endless-space-2.wikia.com
> Community Hub
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> Planets Stats
imgur.com/w5RO8TH.jpg
> Ships Stats
pastebin.com/aabCNGau
> Horatio splicing guide
pastebin.com/1cH8sqEH
>Manual
cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/392110/manuals/User%27s_Manual_-_Endless_Space_2.pdf
>ES2 politics guide.
pastebin.com/pDUQDpwA

STELLARIS
> Pastebin:
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> WIP Ship Design Guide for 1.5.1:
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> Another Ship Design Guide for 1.5:
www.reddit.com/r/Stellaris/comments/61nolh/ship_equipment_load_out_for_141_15/
> Wiki:
www.stellariswiki.com
> The Development of Stellaris
www.gamasutra.com/view/news/274018/Postmortem_Paradox_Development_Studios_Stellaris.php
> Steam group
steamcommunity.com/groups/vgstellaris

ENDLESS LEGEND
> Manual:
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> Wiki:
endlesslegendwiki.com
endless-legend.wikia.com

CIVILIZATION
> Browser Civ Game, plays like civ2
play.freeciv.org
> Fix for Civ IV BTS XML errors:
www.dropbox.com/sh/ljdms8ygix2btcs/AACC_IGIy7zAkomwA6S4DJp3a?dl=0
> Civilization Analyst (Civ VI, Civ V, BE):
well-of-souls.com/civ/index.html
> Civ V Giant Multiplayer Robot:
www.multiplayerrobot.com
> Civ 5 Mods
forums.civfanatics.com/forumdisplay.php?f=393
> Civ 5 More Mods
pastebin.com/5ANRmRur
> Civ 5 Drafter
georgeskleres.com/civ5/
> District Cheat Sheet:
civ6.gamepedia.com/District
> /civ4xg/ steam group
steamcommunity.com/groups/civ4xg

ALPHA CENTAURI
> Essential improvements:
pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Sid_Meier's_Alpha_Centauri#Essential_improvements
> Official short stories:
www.mediafire.com/folder/cn11q7nqa00te/Alpha_Centauri

MICROPROSE
>MoM
www.myabandonware.com/game/master-of-magic-21t
>Wiki
masterofmagic.wikia.com/wiki/Mod
>MoO 2
gamesnostalgia.com/en/game/master-of-orion-ii-battle-at-antares

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>>182754182
First for Zelevas
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>>182753290
Bump.

CiV question.
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Second for Cute-ists
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>>182754182
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>>182754610
fug lads
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play necrophages
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>vodyani are cordial to me
>they propose peace
>i agree
>they declare war on me in next 10 sec
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>>182755351
play cultists
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>>182755432
*destroys your one city*
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>>182755524
*converts all of your minor factions*
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>>182755524
>Destroying a 1500 fortification points city
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>>182755637
*sieges city*
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fug
at least they are wiping out everyone else first, but I don't know if that is a good thing or not
I just Hope the Xenophobe AE on the other side of the galaxy from these guys gets off their ass to do something
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>mfw assimilating the Tikaanan
holy fuck, now i never have to bother with armor or aircraft
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>>182754330
Should I just check the "Avoid Growth" checkbox?
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>>182755923
*200 turns later..*
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>>182757451
Trade for luxuries
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how the fuck do I turn these guys I conquered into cyborgs?
the option is gone
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>>182757605
I know how to increase happiness, but there's a hard limit to it. The question is what to do once I'm close to it.

As a side note, another Civ has the control of the World Congress and is banning luxuries left and right, so I keep a bunch of happiness as a buffer just in case.
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>>182757915
Mercantile City States and happiness boosting buildings, if you're running into issues with happiness you're either overexpanding or not putting enough effort into acquiring it
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>>182757132
yeah the gnashast, hissho and tikanan get pretty mental if you're in a situation where ground combat is important; if you splice any of them as horatio, you're pretty much un-siegeable a la unfallen
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>>182758159
A2g titanium modules make ground battles pointless
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>>182758159
I'm actually playing Horatio and I've already assimilted the Gnashast but I haven't spliced them yet because I'm trying to get the Riftborn out of the way first. Haven't found the Hissho yet though, probably already been assimilated by someone else. I'll just have to nab some from a UE system to splice them.
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Please do not bully the Riftborn.
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>>182758359
*bullies*
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>>182758359
*put DNA in your locker*
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>>182758425
*returns to cold war*
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>>182758469
*closes borders*
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>>182758671
*builds ships with a shittonne of weapon slots*
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Good mods for stellaris guise?
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>>182758771
LEX
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>>182758771
Uninstall Wiz.
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>>182759019
>implying you can do that
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>>182758921
Is AlphaMod any good?
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>>182758771
I'm using the no black people mod, pretty good so far.
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>>182759487
Every time I try to get into it, it drives me away with how bloated it looks.
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How is it possible for someone to lose before Turn 30? Barbarians I guess?
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Jesus fuck almost all the Crisis's in stellaris are fucking horrible, I am starting again and turning them off
The AI will just sit on its ass 95 percent of the time, even when it is an empire that awakened as response to the crisis, and because of this if you are not in a situation where you can kill them quickly then they can quickly become impossible to fight

I managed to hold these fuckers off for almost 50 fucking years while only losing a single planet to them at the very start and have been useing hit and run tactics to slow them the fuck down and destroy their anchors, but unable to destroy the portal
and now they are coming for me in full force in a size that I can't fight off even with spending more time paused than actually going forward
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>>182758031
Roger that.
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>>182760948
city-state
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>>182762078
>Crisis's
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>>182762078

All you need to do is being in good terms with others and give them military access.
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>>182762756
How does an AI even end up going to war against a city-state within 30 turns? ?
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>>182763058
its Civ 6, if you don't want a city states Suzerein bonus you conquer it in the first 30 turns.
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>>182763025
I was in a federation of literally 4 AI Empires, all of them just did not fight it at all, all they did was roll over and die
and the Xenophile awoken empire was stuck on the other side of the galaxy to the unbidden behind Fanatic purifiers who they refused to declare war on them to make a path through
and if it wasn't for the fact that I had Ate a Spiritualist Fallen empire and then gone synth I would have never been able to hold off the unbidden as long as I did because I would not have had the resources to do so
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>riftborn keeps bringing a gun to school
>so unreasonably handsome i can't fight back
>desperately lean for the beam meme
>decisive wins every battle, only a few shield ships lost here and there

Holy shit
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Does anyone have the latest version of Playable Swarm mod for Stellaris?
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>tfw playing as UE and getting three collapsed stars within your home world's influence by turn 40
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>>182763147
I assume that's if they don't have a decent military? how do you even get the units to do it? Or is that just something the AI tries to do?
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>>182764740
You should have a decent military regardless of whether you're rushing a city state thanks to Barbarians. It doesn't take much to take a city in the ancient/classical era, especially when its a citystate.
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>>182764010
>beam meme
enjoy literally never being able to hit anything at long and medium ranges
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>>182764838
I usually focus on expansion, 2 slings->2 Archers usually seems to be enough to hold off barbarians with the +5 civic
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>>182765309
What difficulty do you play on? From my experience 2 archers is nowhere near enough if you get unlucky with a demon horse camp.
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>>182765375
I did just fight off a demon horse camp. like 6 fucking horsemen, they took out my first units of a warrior/sling, though that's because I didn't have them fortified in my borders.

Playing on King, or whatever 1 above prince is.
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>>182765375
barb horsemen have lower combat strength than normal horsemen

they get wrecked by archers if you have a warrior or somethingto act as meatshield
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>>182765561
Only until someone reaches classical era (or discovers stirrups, I can't remember which) then you get full strength
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>>182763845
AI will only do anything if it has a larger fleet than whatever it wants to attack. It won't fight unbidden fleets unless it has a bigger fleet, it won't attack unbidden stations unless it has a fleet bigger than all of the stations in the system. If an AI does have large enough fleets it usually does good work, a fanatic purifier was eating all of their fleets in my last game while a smaller empire kept sending its fleets to snipe the dimensional anchors.

It definitely needs a rework though and supposedly they're revamping AI in regards to crises in 1.8 but I wouldn't hold my breath, that's the same exact shit they said they'd do a year ago.
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>>182765667
What I'm looking forward to in 1.8 is more diplomacy options and a federation rework, where federations can meld together into one empire after enough time.
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Dust is everything.
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>>182767632
DUDE
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>>182768821
Let's not do that today.
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>>182769047
Lets.
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>>182768821
DUST
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>>182769569
Stop right there.
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>>182769661
L
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>>182769773
M
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>>182770069
A
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>>182770069
A
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NO
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I love this dumb general.
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>>182770317
Its the best general on /vg/! Unless theres no Stellaris content then its effectively a different general.
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>>182758505
>What are the max command points? I've got 26 as Vodyanoi but want to know if bigger fleets are possible.
Cravers starts with 2 extra CP, don't remember if they get unique tech with even more CP.
>And how do you assign different ships to specific flotillas in battle?
When you engage there should be "advanced options" button in the lower part of the screen. Don't know how you've managed so far without it, as it shows all sorts of convenient stuff like overall fleet DMG type and preferred range comparisons. You then just drag and drop ships from flotilla to flotilla.
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>>182770415
>You then just drag and drop ships from flotilla to flotilla.
Holy shit.
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>>182770481
So were you just hitting "fight" like a madman without messing around with any combat options?
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>>182771017
No, I was fiddling around with tactics.
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>>182771078
You should be fiddling around with tactics anyway you madman.
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>>182771345
But I didn't realise you could drag and drop, I was using the advanced options menu.
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>>182771432
You can only drag and drop them in the advanced options menu though
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>>182771504
I think you misunderstood my original response, I've been using the advanced options menu and not just been hitting fight, I just never realised you could re-arrange flotillas in it.
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>>182771569
I wonder how many of your manpower losses could have been prevented. All those lives for nothing, what do you tell their families?
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>>182771710
That they died for the glory of ZELEVAS
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>>182771569
Your response didn't make any sense then.
>But I didn't realise you could drag and drop, I was using the advanced options menu.
You can't rearrange flotillas anywhere BUT the advanced menu, so you weren't missing anything other than a fucking brain you utter wasteman
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>>182771972
>>182754295
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>>182772194
Yes it did, I was using the advanced options menu, I just wasn't re-arranging them. Nothing hard to understand about that.
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If I pick short range tactics, and my opponent picks long range tactics, does that mean that the battle happens at medium range?
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>>182773818
It'll go long range > medium range > short range in equal duration each
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>>182773818
If there's range differences between the flotillas, the battle plays out with the flotilla that doesn't initially have its preferred range advancing every phase until it's at optimal. There's no "reversing". Every battle has 3 phases unless the opponent gets completely destroyed before.

F.ex.
>Long vs. Short = Long, Medium, Short
>Long vs. Medium = Long, Medium, Medium
>Long vs. Long = Long, Long, Long
>Medium vs. Short = Medium, Short, Short

Essentially the first phase always start at the longer range's preferred range and every turn it shifts closer to shorter range flotilla's preferred range dictated by the chosen card.
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>>182774279
Is this indicated in any way during the battle?
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Horatio Sauce better be a /civ4xg/ player in the VGLeague 9.
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>>182776841
There's overhead mode or whatever it's called that gives you a top down view of the battle with firing trajectories and all. Each flotilla pair also has a symbol dictating which range they're currently firing from and it changes according to phases as per >>182776113 assuming the opposing flotilla has different preferred range set by their card.

As for flotillas without direct opponents (f.ex. you have two but enemy has one flotilla) I think their firing are all calculated as Long range battles no matter whatever your chosen range for that flotilla is. However the top and bottom flotillas can never fire at each other as they're too far away while the middle flotilla can fire to both top and bottom flotillas assuming your middle flotillas has already dealt with their opposite middle flotilla. You also get bonuses to overall fleet accuracy and DMG if you have more flotillas than the enemy.
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>>182777562
So if I have 3 ships, I should split them up into 3 flotillas and have 2 of them be customized for long range?
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>>182778510
You can't do flotilla split unless you have enough *used* CP in your current fleet, so you can't split a fleet composed of only three starter 1 CP ships but I think you can split three carrier class ships since they use much more CP. I don't remember the exact breaking points but the game tells you this at advanced battle options if you haven't got enough used CP in your current fleet for flotilla split. Top flotilla unlocks first, then the bottom flotilla.

Also if your opponent has more than one flotilla they can obviously engage your top and bottom flotillas as well so keep that in mind. Anyways you shouldn't worry too much about it since the weapon effectiveness is dictated by their type and while missiles and lasers are at their greatest at long range, kinetics don't get too big of a penalty from firing at long range either. Only beam weapons are *entirely* useless at Long and Medium whereas missiles are useless only at Short range. You should always focus more on weapons that counter enemy defenses and that can fire from your preferred card range.

If you happen to get an enemy that can't create more than one flotilla due to not enough used CP while you can, they're forced into using middle flotilla and you can just opt to put one ship into both top and bottom flotillas since you get the morale bonus that way and they're essentially forced into engaging their opposite middle flotilla first.
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>>182770365
Stellaris has no content tho
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>>182780361
Which is what makes all the dumb arguments about OIL that much stupider
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>>182780423
OIL?
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>>182780518
Were you here for the arguments about whether oil is the only good fuel source?
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>>182780580
No, I wasn't. Enlighten me. Was it as dumb as /gsg/ is on a daily basis?
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>>182777562
>>182779826
>>182776113
OK, thanks. It seems like a really interesting battle system, but somehow I couldn't figure out all this stuff on my own.
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>>182780729
One guy kept trying to argue that we should give up and die as a species when we run out of oil without even trying to find alternative energy sources.
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>>182755432
Sell me on the Cultists.
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>>182781458
You don't need to worry about expansion.
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>>182781370
b-but we have fusion right around the corner
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>>182781661
Are you really agreeing with a guy that thinks we should all just commit suicide because Oil is perfect?
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>>182781503
Taking over minor factions is kind of expansion though, isn't it? Except they're far harder to defend.
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>>182781458
In midgame, you just walk through the map while recruiting FREE units everytime you go near a minor faction then throw everything at the enemy cities.
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>>182781776
No, I'm just pointing out that we have fusion, ie what is possibly the best shit so far within the next 15-30 years, look up Tokamak energy
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>>182782327
Oh I thought you were being sarcastic, sorry anon you're right.

Even without Fusion theres enough other power sources to keep us going without oil.
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>>182781503
>You don't need to worry about expansion.
You do need to worry about it, since you still need to control villages and they're more vulnerable than cities, though losing one isn't as big of a hit either unless it's early game. I think the Cultists' strong point and fun part is the lack of empire level micro as converted villages produce free FIDSI that's all directed to their only city, free citizen, free strategic and luxury resources without having to build extractors (as long as you have the proper tech) and even free units that you can either use or sell to market for more Dust. Basically villages just give you more of everything as long as you defend them (or better yet just kill off all would be invaders from your continent) and you only need to manage one city.

Instead of blobbing like Necrophages you instantly raze all cities you come conquer (even capitals that are normally unrazeable) and in doing so get free Science and Industry stockpiles depending on the citizen count of the razed city. Just keep destroying everyone with a combination of free doomstacks of mixed units or your own racial units with the unique Order of Isiver accessory (from their quest) that gives them ridiculous stats. If you get the ball rolling and Influence output high you can just raze through enemy territory and convert every village you come across for convenient on-the-field reinforcement.
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>>182782438
Even without Fusion there's always Nuclear available.
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>>182782725
Expansion as in building settlers, expansion disapproval, keeping your cities relevant and all that. Sorry if I wasn't clear.
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>>182782796
Exactly, it was a really stupid argument from a really stupid nihilist.
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>>182781370
Oh, so it was straight-up Wiz-calling-people-sexist-for-not-liking-his-shitty-voice-pack retarded.
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>>182785887
Yup.
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forgive me father, for i have sinned today
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>>182787221
Anon, NO!
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>>182787221
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>>182787221
STOP THIS AT ONCE
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>>182787936
I just want to say you are the first person I've seen posting an image with the new 15x unixtime default filename.
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Pillage or Empire Mint?
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>>182754182

I just fired up Vox Populi Civ 5. Whats a medium powered Civ for me to try it out on?
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>>182787221
I don't play Cities, what's the problem here?
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>>182788123
That's simply because I'm an exceptional being with an extraordinary destiny, anon
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>>182788423
Do you have a drivers license? It should be horrific if you've driven a car too.
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>>182788423

I don't either, but one of the Cities memes is that you only use one way streets to reduce traffic
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>>182788461
Sire my children please anon.
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So I got Galactic Civ III in the humble bundle, anyone able to tell me how it is? I literally hadn't heard of it until now.
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>>182788380
Ottomans. Their ability is very very powerful for wonders and Progress/Piety if you learn how to optimize trade routes and religion, but otherwise they're pretty mid-tier. Especially if you're just starting out and want a casual pace since their ability doesn't lock you into any specific playstyle.
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>>182788750
No. Sex is disgusting
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>>182789265
Fuck, at least I tried.
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>>182788979

good idea. if I'm Suleiman i won't have to see his shit eating grin asking me for open borders every fucking turn
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>>182789507
>that pic
Medium lel
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>>182789439
Make sure you do like me and rush Catapults. You build them in half the time so you can rush your neighbor early and have unrestricted access to the continent.
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>>182790024
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>>182790531

my continent has Russia, America and Zulu on it
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>>182790813
>get on the freeway
>die
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>>182790717
>and Zulu on it
Pay them off. If they're right next to you, kill them as early as possible.
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>>182790813
>be american
>get lost
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>>182789507
Yeah, especially if your enemy falls for the beams-only-on-every-ship meme since they're abhorrently destructive but their range orientation is whopping 0/0/100%, meaning they can only fire at Short so you can easily counter them by picking Long for your flotillas since the enemy will then take 2/3 phases to close in before being able to shoot at all. In general from longest to shortest range:

Missiles: 100/80/0%, High projectile DMG
Lasers: 100/100/80%, Normal energy DMG + higher crit rate than kinetics
Kinetics: 80/100/100%, Normal projectile DMG + shoots down missiles
Beams: 0/0/100%, Massive energy DMG and crit rate
crit = ignores all defenses

Basically lasers and kinetics work well at any orientation so they're all rounders but perform slightly worse at short or long, whereas missiles and beams do much higher damage but they have hard counters.
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>>182789507
That only gets you one round of your preferred range. The first round would be long range, and the third would be short.
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>>182791189

update: My immediate neighbors are Assyria and Russia. I always play Fractal maps so I don't know what land mass i start on, but as i'm playing standard and met 6 of the 7 opponents I'm guessing I'm on a Pangaea. America and Russia are already fighting over land between them, so I'm probably good for awhile
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>>182791593
Is the AI actually smart enough to make beams useless?
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>>182788423
Have you ever had to exit and merge onto the freeway on the left lane?
I'm not talking about a split lane that merges onto another freeway. I'm talking about exiting onto regular roads using the LEFT LANE.

Some rural states have these to save on building costs and they're accident hotspots.
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>>182791724
I don't know about that but it's, or used to be stupid enough to field nothing but beam ships itself. I don't know if it ever intentionally tries to nullify its opponent's beam outfitted ships but it does make choices depending on its own fleet setup so if the AI is fielding laser and missile ships it's bound to pick long range cards that make your beams useless as well.
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>>182791189

How does rushing production work? Do I get a bonus to production or get hammers over time or what?
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>>182793015
In VP buying out Production gives you 50% of the hammers required for the project and 25% for Wonders. There are some leader abilities that increase the percentage, along with some wonders and social policies in Industry.
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[ends eternally]
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>>182789803

can anyone else not find thomas du crest in this image?
its a tricky one
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>>182797607
He's in control of the space station
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rate my intersection
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Wiz is a Swede.
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>>182799024
Do you ever sit there and wonder how evil you are?
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>>182799024
fuggin benis :DDD
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>>182799024
these games always seem boring as fuck, no wonder your general died
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>>182799090
i am a very benevolent mayor
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>>182798281
Why are the starfish's eyes on its back?
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>>182799338
In the cuthroat world of the ~squalia starfish you need them to watch for the knife behind your back
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>>182799337
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>>182799337
Please never consider going into city planning.
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>>182799867
I actually live off of a freeway exit like this.
God bless America.
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>>182799793
its mouth is on its back too
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>>182802953
It gets very hungry.
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>2017
>building roads with bike lanes
I seriously hope you guys don't do this
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>>182803256
Natural Selection.
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>>182803709
Is that an Anno game?
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>>182799337
>>182799024
>>182797854
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>>182799338
It's actually a molluscoid, not a echinoderm. Common mistake

It's completely normal for a mollusk analog to have eyes there.
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>>182791935
>Have you ever had to exit and merge onto the freeway on the left lane?
Yes, because I don't live in a 3rd world country.
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>>182797854
uninstall the game
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>>182797854
Jump into the lake. And never resurface.
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>civil engineers make $80k a year
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>>182804204
Don't start shit with me
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I just finished my first Endless Legend play through. Necrophages are obscene and I wish you actually got some form of ending cutscene when you win. Especially when you do it the way the species would do it. (I ate everyone and almost accidental the scientific victory). How does the diplomatic route go? Cause the drakken seem kind of cool in aesthetic but the diplomacy in this game just fealt like Compliment the AI to stall them as your eating someone else.

Also, is Age of Wonders 3 (or any in the series) any good that also had customization I like)?
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>>182809315
you get diplomatic good boy points for every turn you spend at peace/alliance with someone else; get enough, and you win

it's a pretty dumb victory condition especially when shared victory conditions are a thing, so they removed it in ES2
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>>182809747
passive victories are the worst
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>>182810025
yeah, they really do suck; however, Drakken at least achieve diplomatic victory in a really fun manner
you essentially work as a bully and global enforcer, identifying who's getting too far ahead, forcing their neighbors into an alliance with you, and bashing them back into submission, at which point you force them into a truce and then peace
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>>182809747
>>182810025

Okay so its just get as large as a kingdom I can then passively defend then I win? Is Research victory fun? Im worried this games replay value against the AI isnt that great. ES2 combat had some nice spectacle though I liked it more. Also the beginnings feel so slow it makes really want to only settle on at least 12+ industry starter.

Also, I keep getting scared that people ive never seen all game are going to win. Like id be doing my first war with someone then the AI is "5 turns away from winning as the sky goes red" and I get really nervous itll just end.
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Does anyone here play ES2 multiplayer?
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>>182806785
it shows
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>>182790813
reminds me of boston
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>>182804204
it's an alien life form and not at all bound by terrestrial classifications.
It just looks like what we call a starfish.
>>182808454
He's not as clever as he thinks he is. But then again, neither are you for assuming that is it's back.
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>>182816173
>it's
failed at the last hurdle
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>>182816439
it's an alien spelling and not at all bound by terrestrial customs
it just looks like what we call a typo
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>Got Stellaris during the steam sale for free
>Planned to use it as a space exploration game
>Can't set alien empires to 0
>Can't use Stellaris as the ultimate 'humanity fucks off and splits up amongst the stars' simulator I had hoped it would be

What's the best settings to start a game with if I want to have as little alien interaction as possible? I thought Fallen Empires meant civilizations that had fallen, but I was terribly wrong. Terribly.
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>>182818053
There are mods that can further customize the starting situation a lot. I think there are some to get rid of all other living empires if that's what you want.
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>>182818053
There's this: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=818107688&searchtext=fermi
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>>182818410
>>182818290
thanks for the fast responses. I'm rather enjoying this game, I don't hate finding aliens that haven't began exploring space, but I do hate being cockblocked by ancient douchebags telling me my species is going to die soon and that I'm not allowed to inhabit this world outside of their claimed space. Mod should come in handy for what I want to use Stellaris for (Using it to plan out a D&D space adventure game) now that i've begun to understand the basics better.
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>>182819189
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=904714968&searchtext=initializer
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My last ES2 save was destoryed when I took over my first human colony as Riftborn. It had so many people and Horatios on it that it cause my game to lag and crash. So Im mad.

Do the other races have any interesting gameplay styles? The Vodyanni where a bit intimidating for me as I keep getting scared the draining would piss the AI off.
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>not playing as the most beautiful man in the galaxy
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>>182821745
>Horatio will never slip you the sneaky Declaration of war
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>>182798281
how do i get that portrait?
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>>182821745
>not Real Horatio
>not sauceposting during Real Horatio hours
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>>182821970
As far as the quest goes is the original Horatio even alive anymore?
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>>182806785
Jesus christ the spaghetti on this one. Why not build a roller coaster at this point?
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>>182821970
It's always Real Horatio hours
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Anyone have screenshots from Wiz's meltdown the other day? Wanna show it to a friend of mine.
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>>182823204
The posts he made in the development diary should still be there. I have this at least, and could try to dig up more.
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>>182823204
Just check the last thread.
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>>182823512
Man, being a forumposter is literally cuckold-tier.
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>>182823695
*respecfully disagrees*
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>>182823737
This is all from the dev Diary.
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>>182824021
>How to "apologize" and still try to come out on top
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>>182762078
> game devs bother to put in an end-game event hard enough that there is a reasonable possibility for a good player to actually lose
> WAAH WAAH THIS IS BULLSHIT I DEMAND A DO-OVER
Given that most games are totally devoid of challenge for anyone who's not retarded and has played them more than twice, I find Stellaris crises very refreshing
When you don't start a game KNOWING you will win is when a game remains interesting
at least in theory. Stellaris is boring for many other reasons. But, critically, NOT because "Galactic crises" are actually minor inconveniences
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>>182787221
My country is using the British road system which is driving left, so I don't see this as a problem.
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>>182825404
I enjoy being the underdog in Stellaris, which is why I also enjoy spawning right next to a fallen empire.

My countless leaders are worth every moment I can scan even one piece of debris every 10 years.
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>>182818053
>I thought Fallen Empires meant civilizations that had fallen, but I was terribly wrong. Terribly.

Well, they kind of are. Fallen into philosophical and diplomatic stasis. And on a flavour basis they really are supposed to represent civilizations that once ruled half the galaxy but then let it all slip away.

Tbh I actually liked them more in 1.2 where they were Fallen and stayed Fallen. I appreciated them more from an RP perspective as aloof ancients who serve as a crack-able treasure trove of resources and technology if you choose to crack them, rather than what they are now they can awake post-1.3: geopolitical H-bombs on a short fuse.
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>>182811836
the victory conditions aren't the fun part of endless games, the different factions are; pretty much the only faction intended to get diplomacy victory is the drakken, who actually do it kind of fun ( >>182811553 )

>>182819597
>vodyani are the mosr esoteric, but also really fun
>unfallen are maximum comfy and are completely capable of 1 turn supremacy victories
>lumeris can pull some really dirty jewish tricks with forward-settling outposts and selling them off to rivals a la the old xenophobic FE trick
>cravers roll over everyone and blob super hard, but actually manage to continue to be fun and engaging as the game progresses due to depletion, slaves, and waging wars on all fronts
>horatio is horatio, you shouldn't need any more explanations
>sophons are pretty vanilla, but you can use your stupid science leads as diplomatic leverage to manipulate everyone
>united empire is also pretty vanilla, but has some good flavor and can specialize
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>>182825865
I would like them only respond to crises and nothing more. And since it ruled the galaxy ages ago, I would also like them adding event in the habitable world where we will have access to some of the old factories and residence they once lived.
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>>182826109
is settling and selling outposts usually profitable for lumeris or is it just there for being a dick?
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>>182826182
you have to be smart on who you will sell it to - selling outposts is a great money-maker early game before your trade companies get up and running properly, but you need to settle in places that they can't afford to leave in their rivals' hands, and make sure that they can afford it; of course, the AI in particular doesn't care about where it is, but in multiplayer it gains way more depth

of course, there's also the classic trick of selling off an outpost only to settle the system again, blockade the outpost you just sold, and pop all of the bonuses in order to steal the system back
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in stellaris, do i have to be a xenophobe to enslave aliens? or can i be a authoritarian too?
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>>182826686
>selling off an outpost only to settle the system again, blockade the outpost you just sold, and pop all of the bonuses in order to steal the system back
Maximum over-jew
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>>182827414
Seeing as authoritarians can enslave anyone, I don't see why not.
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>>182827707
ok cool, im designing a race of lesbian femdoms that enslave aliens for sex, and i want them to work out mechanically.
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>>182827414
You have to be authoritarian and/or xenophile (and also not a signatory to the Xenophilic Awakened Empire's mega-treaty, which unfortunately I am in this screenshot but that's a very niche situation)

>>182828129
For FULL IMMERSION:
A) make your empire xenophilic / authoritarian (so you like aliens, but you like them on their knees in chains)
B) Give your people the "Decadant" trait (makes them really, really want slaves)
C) when you capture them, put the aliens on "Domestic servitude" which makes your pops even more happier when there's slaves around makes you
D) Go down the genetic engineering ascension path so you can gene-mod all captured aliens to be charismatic, fertile, and weak
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>>182828502
i have the female only elf mod, using them as an NPC race:
>government
syncratic evolution
slaver guilds
>traits
decadent
deviants
rapid breeders
intelligent
natural physicists
>ethics
fanatic authoritarian
????? here idk ?????
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>>182754182
when is the first civ 6 expansion
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>>182829026
Oh shit, I made that mod.
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>>182829531
never
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>>182829026
>????? here idk ?????
Obviously xenophile.
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I don't like the Shroud any more.
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>>182831062
That Shroud ghost sounds like a massive faggot.
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>>182831062
Invite him to view the future of your fucking dick in his mouth.
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>haven't even filled the bay area yet
>game is already chugging
t-thanks paradox
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>>182832643
>liberals allowing nuclear power even if the alternative is global warming
That broke my immersion.
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What's the best route for the United Empire quest? Mezari, Sherydyn or stay UE?
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>>182832892
>solar and wind being cheap and effective alternatives to coal

break my immersion
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>>182833114
>nuclear fusion power being discovered in a few years
really broke my immersion
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>>182831585
>>182831631
You're missing the point of anon's image.

The pop working the PsiCorps, where this vision is taking place, is gtfo'ing the planet they just saw on fire.
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>>182833074
Do you want science, military, or as you were normally playing?
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Horatio is afraid of me because I built a lot of ships for an unrelated quest. Should I conquer him?

On a related note, how do I get manpower to go from my empire to my ships? It seems like I run out of dudes after invading a couple of planets, but I know I have a bunch in reserve somewhere.
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>>182834706
>how do I get manpower to go from my empire to my ships
sit them in your territory for a couple of turns, it shows you how much manpower they're gaining when you hover over the fleet
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>anon's image
i read that as "mom's lingerie"
time for bed
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> high probability of success
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>>182789803

Ok guys: here is how to win at endless space 2 war.

>Have your fleet have hunters and protectors. Hunters carry weapons and +weapon support, protectors carry fleet move, fleet repair, fleet shields.
>equip slug guns
>put all your ships in the middle flotillia.
>pick a tactic card where your middle flotillia will fight at long range.

Congrats. You win vs missiles, you win vs beams, you win vs kinetics due to your one-flotilla focus fire, and you win agains lasers due to your fleet shield modules.

Enjoy never losing another ship.
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>>182836450
and when the ai goes full armor?
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>>182836558
Then you still win because you have tons of guns and tons of +kinetic damage/crit supports on your hunters.

Seriously. Splitting your weapon type will lose you those +% supports, which are amazing.
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>>182835578
>Channel the energies into an Avatar.
Looks like it succeeded to me :^)
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Do I need to occupy all 9 systems for the academy quest ? I already regenerated 5, but the remaining ones are on the other side of the galaxy
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Fucking fedoras
Crusade soon
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>>182824021
What a dumbass
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> I have 150k
> AE has 570k
> I win the war in 1 year with losses of about 5k
I think I have become 2gud at this
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>>182844245
How? I played a lot of 4x games but I am a scrub in all of them. I actually want to get good in one of them for once.
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>>182843835
as Auriga
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>>182844559
You basically have to become Micro Hell.

I was helped by the fact that this is the xenophile FE and after Awakening he didn't go conquer anyone, he just sat there and built ships using his magic money pot and occasionally smacked people for slaving. So he only had 7 worlds.

So I split my fleet up into 7, lined up a 20-army-strong invasion force behind each one, and the day after the DoW, I warped one force into each of his systems. Fleet picks off the spaceport easily, then don't even bombard the planet at all - just run away before the doomstack turns up. 30 psychic armies will win going in dry against even a fully fortified planet with a moderate number of defensives / garrisons.

The tactic relies on the fact that the enemy doomstack can't be in 7 places at once. Which ever place the doomstack DOES go to, you either leave immediatly, or, if the alignments are right, let him chase you until he's over the star, THEN warp out, as it'll take him a month to get back to the edge of the system, buying your other forces time to snipe more space stations.
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I think... I think I'm gonna play tree niggers again...
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> Wiz rps Tzeentch in his own game
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Hey guys, I need some help.
From where can I download the improved space battles mod for stellaris?
steam downloader doesn't work and I can't seem to find it on any other site

also some mod recommendations?

thanks
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HAK HAK HAK
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>>182822143
Not sure but that's one of the name options for an AI Horatio empire
>smash dat lek if yuou up at Real horatio hours
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Should I update stellaris to the beta patch or is it unstable?
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>>182846801
fug off space mexicans
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>>182845294
autism?
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>>182845294
only acceptable if you have tried every other faction once as well
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wtf I love the Warp now
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>>182848343
Just finished the complete roster. I played UE twice because I didn't get the victory achievement the first time (I was in a alliance), and and I won't play vodyani again immediately because I can never finish their fucking quest
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>>182845267
So you have to do this with the slowest speed right?
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>>182846054
Read the OP, specifically the Stellaris pastebin.
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>>182848252
He was one of us
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>>182848545
Slower than that, I spent 90% of my IRL time on pause.
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>>182850067
You mentioned how to conquer their planets. How about actually killing the doomstack? Any specific build and ship composition?
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>>182823204
>>182824021
Why can't Wiz understand that literally no one cares it's a woman reading those lines and people hate it because it sounds like something out of a shitty b-movie?
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>>182851686
NO ITS CUZ U H8 WOMYN
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Good for you.
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>>182850990
For me the AE had 4 stacks of 150k. So I made 1 stack of 200k and fortresses that reduced fire rate in a dozen systems. Since that AE was fighting an other empire at the time, eventually I was able to trap it's fleets one at a time at one of the stations and kill it with relatively low losses. Repeated several times until the fleets were gone.
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>>182850990
>How about actually killing the doomstack?
This is where you're getting it wrong.
Don't even try. If you engage the doomstack, the whole strategy is toast.
Basically, if you're doing a long war against an AE, their fleet should remain 10x your strength right up to the point where they cede you their last planet.
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>>182851998
I hate this
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>>182852338
Problem is you have to do something about their fleet after you secured all their planets though.
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>>182852704
> Problem is you have to do something about their fleet after you secured all their planets though.
No you don't.
We're talkin Sun Tzu shit here, m8. Don't engage the enemy on his strengths and all. If your fleet never is where the enemy's fleet is, all the tachyon weapons in the galaxy are literally of no use to them.
Just make sure that for every planet he takes, you take two, and then just grind, grind, grind his warscore down. When it gets to 100% 'cos you've taken 57 planets and he's only taken 30, a winner is you regardless of how much fleet power he has.
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>>182821883
Its in the game by default.
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>>182853006
It actually isn't, it came free after release with one of the patches.
So if you're some kind of pirate you may well not be able to get it.
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>>182853050
Oh well.
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This is unironically the best general on /vg/
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>>182853198
I don't know. /bbg/ is super comfy as well
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>>182853230
I've not used /bbg/ but out of the many generals I have used this place outside of certain release times is one of the friendliest and most fun places on /vg/.
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>>182853198
Naa, too much /gsg/ crossover sometimes.
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>>182853396
True, true
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>>182853198
Eh, I'm more fond of /xcg/
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>>182852976
So the FE or AE land forces are shit right?
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>>182853967
It was good once, before all the furries, scalies and gay faggots.
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>>182853198
I haven't played a 4x game in months, I just love the general
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So warfare in Stellaris.
Once I finish occupying a planet do I have to leave any land armies there to hold it, or can I move them to the next planet?
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>>182854440
You don't, unless you think the enemy is going to land armies as soon as you leave, though you may want to leave armies on planets you plan on annexing since those will have high unrest.
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>>182854530
I hate the unrest mechanic. I hope I can chemical bliss xenos and purge them at the same time while not getting -300 opinion from all other empires. I mean come on, it is none of your business what I am doing on my planets.
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>>182854530
Well I'm playing devouring swarm so they'll just get eaten anyway.
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>>182854030
They usually have big, good offensive armies. But defensive, not so much, and this is why the strategy works
> when the peacekeepers unleash 200 million genestealers into your cities
> "It's just for the greater good, bro :^)"
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>>182854530
>though you may want to leave armies on planets you plan on annexing since those will have high unrest
Don't bother. Unrest is weaksauce. Yes, these planets will need unrest armies after the peace treaty, but you'll have plenty of time to send the armies to them AFTER the peace treaty.
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Is there any different in difficult between map size in Civ5? I'm still learning the game and not sure to choose small or standard map.
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>>182855242
I usually just leave armies once I get enough planets or can make clones out of laziness, armies are cheap anyway.
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>>182855405
Smaller leads to you meeting people faster leading to (generally) harder,more intense games. While learning, remain on standard
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>>182854902
I can see xenophiles getting upset but xenophobes? Authoritarians?
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>>182855405
Bigger maps generally make domination victory more difficult and time consuming. Smaller maps can make it more intense as you're crammed together, especially if you've not reduced the number of civ spawns.
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>>182855242
>+10 influence
But how? I feel like a total pleb.
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So I downloaded the Stellaris Utopia from CODEX but I can't seem to get the DLC working.

Is there anything I need to be doing?
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>>182855723
That was an old save from before they nerfed it.
I think it's literally impossible to get more than +9 now, and that only if you're minmaxing it. Maybe you could still scrape 10 if you farm protectorates or something, but they develop so fast now I'm not even sure.
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>>182855539
>>182855708
Standard then. What about barbarians, should I turn them off?
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>>182856294
No, it's probably harder if you turn them off, because killing the occasional barb camp is a great way to curry early-game influence with city states.
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>>182856294
No, Barbarians are a key part of the game.
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>>182856397
>>182856530
Ah, okay. Thanks.
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>>182823737
>People are upset over this VO.
>"Silly men being sexist pigs, really."
>There is nothing indicating people are upset about the voice being female.
>"There is actually. It is so predictable. Silly men on the internet."
>Uh, everyone keeps pointing out it has nothing to do with the voice being male or female.
>"It has everything to do with it because I said so."
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>>182823737
>The only true virtues are courage and discipline, and channeled properly they can overcome any obstacle. Therein lies true strength; force withheld, a promise made.
>The ability to project force is of paramount importance. The only way to preserve our way of life is to make sure everyone shares it; willingly or not...
-stellaris tool tip on militarism

>CRY HAVOC, AND LET SLIP THE DOGS OF WARRRRR
What were they thinking?
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Eternal End was a mistake.
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>>182859609
Kek
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>>182859609
play necrophages
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>England declares a surprise war
>Fend off the barbaric intruders
>Require reparations and take all English cities as compensation
>I'M THE WAR MONGER
>everyone hates me
???
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>>182860467
>fight off an invasion
>ignore white peace requests
>launch your own invasion
>burn their fields
>bomb their cities
>ignore their pleas for peace
>conquer all of their territory
>somehow I'M the warmonger
If you really want to conquer a Civ without getting a warmonger malus push for cities in peace treaties instead of conquering them outright and if you do conquer a few cities just liberate a city state or two.
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Amplitude why.
Any way to scroll down? Is this what I get for trying the Anarchic winter setting?
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>>182860763
Yeah well they started it :^)
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>>182861351
amplified heh
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>>182828502

Every time I see that symbol I automatically imagine Gordon Gecko and Rupert Murdock with several graphics in the background showing the current BitCoin value, the dollar-euro ratio and the value of ExxonMobil and Peabody En. stocks while a massive droid army descends into the atmosphere ready to enslave us all to low wages.

>Also kikes, Donald Trump and 1980's Robocop
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I will to my lord be true and faithful, and love all which he loves and shun all which he shuns.
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>>182863106
I like pigs.
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You would make a ship sail against the winds and currents by lighting a bon-fire under her deck? I have no time for such nonsense.
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>>182863286
No Wifi on Mt. Kilimanjaro.
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True glory consists in doing what deserves to be written, in writing what deserves to be read.
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Anyone else get a bug in ES2 where your pop bonus doesn't apply to the planet?

I'm playing Horatio and have this quest to take a shitty one-planet system that isn't part of any constellation then get its happiness up to 70. I took it no problem and now have 6 Horatio pops on it who all have +4 happiness but it just isn't applying at all, and upon closer inspection none of the other pop bonuses are applying to any of the FIDSI either.
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>>182863445
>>182863396
>>182863286
>>182863152
>>182863106
Where the fuck id it all go so wrong? V still had good quotes, iirc, right?
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>>182863641
Most of the quotes in VI are fine, theres just a few awful meme ones because everything has a serious and a joke one and some of the joke ones are awful.
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Rough Riders are pointless. The +5 combat bonus for all units already ensures you own your entire continent early on therefore there is no reason to have a unit that specializes on your home continent.

The pointlessness of a fighter that specializes in anti-air is self evident as well.

Good thing America's other bonuses are good.
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>>182863465
Is the planet hot though? Wouldn't be surprised if it's a bug anyway. ES2 is an unfinished, bug-ridden piece of early access shit after all.
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>>182864000
America is a low tier civ in 6 because its UU's are just so bad and its bonus is pretty mediocre compared to the others.
nice digits
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>>182864024
No the planet isn't hot, but the pop bonus has +4 happiness in addition to the +2 on hot planets because of some genes I spliced.

>Wouldn't be surprised if it's a bug anyway. ES2 is an unfinished, bug-ridden piece of early access shit after all.
Well, there is always that I guess.
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>>182863891
>Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master
This was my favorite quote.
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>>182864024
You misspelled Stellaris
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>>182863891
>>182864170
Ironic how a sandnigger UN peacekeeper is the guy who acts like a Great Prophet for the situation 15 years later huh
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>>182864090
The bonuses are good, a lot more useful and victory oriented than other civ bonuses. The combat bonus is huge early game when combat makes the most sense. You can create the world's largest empire before anyone can hate you for it.

The national park bonuses can be very powerful if you have three or more strong holy districts and set aside plots of land before you even settle. Also use entertainment and culture districts to raise appeal where necessary. The Film Studio only compounds this cultural advantage.

America has perhaps the most reliable culture victory of any civ.
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>that time Firaxis tried making America's fittest president obese because "haha Americans are fat XD XD"
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Are Jadwiga and her massive hips worth $5
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>>182864928
Probably not, she's a fun civ to play and her scenarios nice but you're probably better waiting for a sale. If you really want a civ pack I prefer Australia, they have a neat scenario and their atomic era music is god tier, also their desert bonuses are a nice playstyle change.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNoy6AJ3-HY
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>>182864801
Well I'd imagine the change was less because he looked fat and more because he looked like he had tumors in his cheeks
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>>182865179
>australia
>a civilization
That's how I knew this game wouldn't be saved
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>>182864928
Signs point to yes.

Also her scenario is basically Turk Tower Defense.

Honestly though, you should have bought the deluxe.
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>>182865507
Post Gorgo please. This greek dress and muscled arms always get me going
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>>182865882
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So why exactly can an enemy fleet (not on war) pass through my systems although I closed my borders for them?
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Civ VI Japan is pretty great. That building speed bonus is awesome for getting cities up and running.
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>>182866783
assuming ES2
if they don't know the system belongs to you yet (IE haven't explored it even though they can faintly see the sphere of influence) they can enter it; however, once they're inside, they immediately have to route to a system outside of your borders (which includes your own systems they haven't explored)

closed borders aren't actually effective against people who literally just met you unless they're probe-happy
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>add 4 additional AI to a Small map so I have civilizations to harvest early on as the Aztec
>explore entire continent by turn 30
>literally just me and three city states
Fuck you, Sid.
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>>182868975
Why does this guy look so much like the TempleOS guy
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Got gal civ 3 with this month's bundle, how was it?
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>>182866783
>>182868485
Ah sorry, forgot to mention that I'm on Stellaris
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>>182871651
because stellaris is a broken buggy piece of shit
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>run into an AI Morgawr
>20 hydras are rampaging across their neighbour's territory in the first 30
T-thanks, Amplitude.
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>>182873573
TEARS ENOUGH TO FILL THE SALT SEA

i've generally found that stealth tactics and/or generous and vigilant defenses work very well against morgawr
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>>182871651
If you're a vassal, your overlord controls your border policy.
If you finished a war with them in the last 10 years, they have forced open borders.
If they're HAK, then fuck you.
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>>182873989
>stealth tactics
How is that? Bitch nigga fish can just see all stealth units, from what I understand, and it's not like you can hide when they control every single roaming army on the map.
I'm thinking alpha-striking their shit in as soon as you put down the minor factions in your territory is the best way of dealing with them.
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>>182875964
They only control the roaming army if they can get close enough to catspaw it.
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>>182876812
I know, but it may as well spread like a wildfire. If you're anywhere near them, they'll most likely get to control most roaming armies you see.
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>be fanatical purifiers
>get old gods event chain
>try taking spiritualism because I've never done it before
>no longer fanatical purifiers because different civics
>galaxy still fucking hates me because genocide

Welp. Time to start over again I guess. Or should I just play Vicky?
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>>182877067
Don't let their unique land unit anywhere near your borders, its hard but it has a ridiculously long sight range.
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Can one put national parks side by side in Civ 6?
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What's the mod to pick your little secondary race dudes for stellaris?
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>>182878141
Yes
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>>182878236
The 1.8 update?
Alternatively
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=911149244
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>>182878769
I don't keep track of shit or visit the official forums but do we know when the update is coming?
because I feel like playing Stellaris again but I don't want to burn myself out of it if major changes are right around the corner
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>>182879541
>We have seen new content suggesting a story pack is in the works, meaning 1.8 may be similar to the release of 1.3 and 1.4 in terms of timeline.
>http://www.stellariswiki.com/Developer_diaries
>1.3 took about 11 updates from the 1st dev diary to release, and the bug fix patch 1.4 was another 3 dev diaries out. Based on this, we can predict to hear a name for the 1.8 story pack around August 1, with an early Septemberish release date. A bugfix patch may come later, or this maybe delayed to include more playtesting.
I'd agree with this guy's September estimate.
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>>182790024

That's no road gore, that's comfy as fuck. Pointless considering the road could just run alongside the road, but awesome.

Also, while I'm here - just gonna drop the third episode of my Beyond Earth Rising Tide series.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMj_JKfHzDY

Mod adds load of new stuff and features, new quest lines, re-works the tech progression to be more linear (and more understandable) as well as a metric shitload of quality of life fixes and other stuff.

Long story short, it actually makes Beyond Earth Rising Tide playable, and even fun.
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I feel like torturing myself
Wish me luck, I probably won't have to fortitude to actually stick with this, but at least I can say I tried it
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>>182880714
I play that setting all the time, except Any FTL method.
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>>182880714
>no advanced neighbors
Pussy. Don't you want to be the vassal of a real space age empire?
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EL intro always gives me chills
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>>182878283
Then explain this.
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>>182882292
Are you sure it meets all of the conditions, I don't think those snow tiles would generate enough appeal./
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Is 'tall' viable in Stellaris now? Is it fun?

(keeping in mind that I've always hated tall even in games that explicitly encourage it)
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>>182882567
Which games would that be?
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>>182882292
I thought you couldn't create them when any of the tiles had improvements.
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>>182882567
No. No.
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>>182882906
You can't, you need 4 tiles in a diamond shape with no improvements and each tile needs either an approval of charming or higher, a natural wonder or a mountain.
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>>182884030
>>182882906
Oh and they need to all be owned by one city.
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>>182884030
Well that's why then, there's an improvement on the left tile.
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>>182884120
Thats already a national park, the 'improvement' is just part of the national park model. Notice the green outline.
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>>182884248
Wait, where is it you're trying to build the second park?
You didn't say anywhere and didn't mark it on the screenshot.
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>>182884717
I'm not the anon who posted the screenshot, as far as I can tell he hasn't posted since then.
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>>182882567
http://imgur.com/a/6Ts2T
Fanatic Xenophobe Pacifist democracy with Inward Perfection and Agrarian Idyll, Thrifty, Agrarian, Communal, Sedentary and Nonadaptive.

19 ascended synths ruled the galaxy.
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>>182882492
>>182882906
Appeal is fine.
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>>182886193
You need the national park creator guy to be standing on one of the tiles.
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>>182886193
Hang on a second thats an archeologist not a naturalist.
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>>182886428
I bet he did it on purpose
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>>182886598
>>182886715
I spotted it at first but presumed I'd just got the symbols mixed up.
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How do I achieve the glorious Nipponese aesthetic in my cities, /cbg/?
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>conquer shitty enemy system in ES2
>have to wait for it to be completely assimilated before you can abandon it
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>>182887785
You don't know the hell of it, man
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>>182888301
You should be able to just win by research in a couple turns, why would do this to yourself?
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>>182888301
Eh, religious law makes it irrelevant.
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my first 4x game was Spores space stage
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>>182888660
Because I had deactivated every condition victory except for score and capturing every main system.

>why would do this to yourself?
I needed that "kill everyone" achievement

>>182888864
Yeah but you need to be religious. Religion sucks
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>>182889000
>Yeah but you need to be religious. Religion sucks
The fact that you can literally colonise the entire galaxy outweighs any of its other failings.
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>>182889332
I just purged most of the planets I had conquered. They were useless anyway
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>>182887626
Download the billion and a half japanese style assets from the workshop.
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>>182877157
Liberate areas to create allies. Newly-founded nations have no memory of your genocidal ways.
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>>182888301
How are your planets not in complete revolt from overcolonization penalties?
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>>182891495
Religious law which forces content on all systems
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Which should I choose, lads?
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>tfw reading Wiz's comments on Dev Diary 77

There was no reason to do this
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>>182889000
Ah, a cheevo whore, my condolences. I assumed you were playing for your enjoyment.
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Is there a mod that allows you to choose what civs don't randomly spawn into your game? I've had enough of the Kongo running away with literally every game.
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>>182893064
Glory. Horatio deserves nothing less.
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>>182882697
Civ 5 with all of the expansions is tall central. Capture even two cities and your entire country will fall apart because it spreads the luxury goods too thin.
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>>182897353
>being this much of a shitter
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>>182888958
Same
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>>182851998
game?
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Civ3 works fine in Linux under wine.
Some stupid graphics shit at startup until you open a menu or something.
Also not sure if the unit movement sounds are correct. Could someone post how they are on Windows?
Probably gonna try civ2 mge later, just want a simple game of civ really. All the isos I found were fucked though. If someone has one please post a link.
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Scythia has a lot of early faith production. Historically, what major world religion did they establish?
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>>182904060
Fallen Enchantress: Legendary Heroes. Fantasy RPG 4x from a few years ago.
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>>182905232
being ashkenazi jews
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>>182905673
would u recommend it?
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Lovely.
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>>182907968
>tfw no slut waifu
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In Stellaris:
If I'm in a NAP with empire A, but empire A has a defensive pact with empire B and I declare war on B, would A break the NAP and declare war on me?
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>Prethoryn Scouge hits during an especially nasty War in Heaven
>Getting slightly out of hand by the time the League snatches a victory
>Start trying to hold the line on the frontiers of my Fed member's space while we all rebuild/rearm
>toomanybugs.jpg
>bug fleet slips through and starts bombarding a friendly planet
>0 defenses by the time my fleet gets there
>bug transports jump in, but are almost within range
>ICANSAVETHEM.webm
>Prethoryn fleet guns it straight towards my fleet, making a wall between me and their transports
>watch helplessly as their transports land and consume the planet just as I finish off their fleet

>tfw I was too late
>tfw have to glass the planet now
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>>182760948
That motherfucker Barbarossa taking my city states, that's how
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>>182864000
nigga the p51 is great
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>>182907145
I like it. Would buy it if it was on sale, mostly because I dislike Stardock's 3rd party log in/registration thing. Beyond that it's a less polished EL with all the DLC.

My main draw are quests and the fact I can customize my units's equipment. The downsides are the lackluster AI (like pretty much every 4x) and that it has a few bugs that were never patched (borders disappear if you load a savegame while a game is already playing, have to exit the game completely and restart the game for the borders to show up again)
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>>182905232
they didn't establish a major religion, they likely would've been Tengriist, Zoroastrians, or some syncretic mix of the two.
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>>182863641
>meanwhile in France
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>>182908640
Yes.
But whenever confused by this you can find out directly by clicking declare war, then on the "choose demands" screen it tells you who you'll be fighting, so you can cancel when you inevitably discover that the answer is "everyone"
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>>182908913
Sometimes Stellaris is actually fun.

>start xenophile materialist monkeys
>want to roleplay nerds that just wanna science and be friends
>named my empire Yshek Foundation
>my neighbours are the Otaku Foundation, identical ethos warthogs
>tfw we will achieve ascension together
>tfw monkeys riding warthogs into battle
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I think I can definitively say now that Gal Civ III isn't for me. It just does too much weird shit that I'm not a fan of.

Back to Endless Space 2, I guess.
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>>182754295

>you will never get to pump your magic space juice into your glorious emperor
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>>182914880
>you will never have your glorious emperor pump his magic space juice into you
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>>182889000
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I wish there was something you could do with destroyed Arks as a non-Voyandi faction. As it stands it just makes victory over the space crusaders feel really empty.
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>>182917095
They give a bonus to the system.
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>>182914187
Weird how? I found it to be pretty much like playing any other Civ type game.
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stellaris icthyoid portraits when
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>>182921603
Future DLC. Most likely won't work at launch also.
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How do I make these assholes accept two trains at a time? No matter what I try, I can't get these fuckers to use both tracks for accepting trains.
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>>182853198

I dunno some anon a week or two back was just generally complaining that it's shit that a lot of mods disable achievements and some dude literally just shitpost spammed him constantly. Not that he was helping mind you.

/twg/ Is the best in my opinion but so far this is nice too.
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Any word on Stellaris's 1.8 update? Looking forward to Hivemind finally being fleshed out.
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>>182923305
>total warhammer general
>good
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>>182854074

Eh, snekposters are mostly harmless. Remember that one guy in the general a little over a year ago who had some fucking bizarre hatred of Valkyria Chronicles and derailed like five threads with his autism?
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Anyone else here who remembers pre-2012 /gsg/?
That was by far the best general on 4chan.
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>>182927021

>2012

nice one anon, we all know the internet wasn't invented until 2015
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>>182928048
>started browsing 4chan 10 years ago
god i feel old
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>>182925130
> "Fleshed out"
> not changing the flat, boring hivemind play (that are literally just normal empires various with mechanics taken out) at all, just updating the flavour text on events and traditions so it says "our gestalt" instead of "our population"
> Paradrones circlejerk themselves into a frenzy about how this constitutes DEEPEST LORE
If you think that what has been promised is an actual improvement, you are retarded.
but if you don't like it you're a misogynist :^)
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>>182929392
>get a real job
>still here
Something has to end this. Hopefully Trump will follow through on his anti Net Neutrality policy and end 4chan once and for all.
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>>182930673
I am of this mind too.
I love it, but I know that it's bad for me, and I hope for the benign paternalism of an authoritarian strongman, to force the change that I am too addicted to make myself.
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>2017
>Missiles are still shit
>Diplomacy is still shit
>Ground battles are still shit
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>>182922554
>want to go into the train that's further away
>just kinda scurry over the tracks and hope the closer train doesn't hit me
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>>182934012
>2017
>Wiz is still Swedish
>Paradox is still shit
>Stellaris is still shit
>shit
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>Stellaris
>Sandwiched between three empires who all have defensive pacts and technology equivalent to mine
>Superior or Equivalent fleets to mine
>Thiswillbeeasy.jpg
>Declare war, can only demand for three planets
>Spend about ten years at war absolutely Sun Tzu'ing their asses
>Get 100% warscore, click force demands
>Can only get 2 planets
>One of them, the most prized one, instantly rebels and goes back to the most advanced empire without even giving me the chance to fight
FUCK
OFF
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>>182936348
By Sun Tzu'ing you mean microing like crazy and abusing the fact that AI is retarded, my good tactician?
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>>182936348
>asking to cede shit as wargoal
this is where you went wrong. taking over planets only works against ayys with similar ethics to your own.

what you should have done is:
>demand independence of planets
>win the war
>nab up the freed and grateful planets as your vassals
>trade tech so their fleet stays relatively equal to yours
>integrate them later
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>>182891495
>>182892840
Nah it was me giving free luxury resources until I could no longer hold it and got into anarchy. Then I had to abandon a lot of system to restore stability
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>tfw you send your starting corvettes in different directions and they all die after the first jump
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>>182936348
Sounding an awful lot like a bigot there, bud.
*respectfully disagrees*
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>>182937392
>microing like crazy and abusing the fact that AI is retarded
I am kinda conflicted about this. Is it a legitimate tactic, or is it an exploit? On the one hand, it's difficult, tedious work that relies on an encyclopedic knowledge of the game's systems (army prep, inter-system warp angling, multipronged attacks, emergency retreat, in-system travel times). But on the other hand, the only reason it works is the AI's behavioural coding, AND it's sort of a magic bullet that will always work regardless of how small you are and how big the AI is.
So it simultaneously feels like legit Pro-gamer and also like exploit scrub.
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>>182938174

You only need 5 or 6 ground armies to keep the planet under control , maybe a governor if it has a lot of pops
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>>182938438
I never understand why they need to turn. It seems too primitive. Even we have jets that can change direction without exposing their backs in commission now I don't believe we are suddenly more backwards when we are in space age.
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>>182938174
I've got xenophobe and repugnant going so that could backfire.
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>>182938174
>taking over planets only works against ayys with similar ethics to your own.
Ha ha ha nigga how is unrest even real, nigga just land an army
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>Have migration treaties
>Take Mind Over Matter
>Take Transcendence
>Members of my species who were outside my borders are only latent Psionic

I thought the entire species was supposed to become fully psychic. What the shit.
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>>182945910
First they become latent then later the members who are in your Empire become full psychic while other empires only keep the latents
I wish the synthetic route had something similar because first time I went synth I was disappointed because a spiritualist Fallen empire declared War on me because they were too upset at shit I had done and when I proceeded to full annex then I found that I had for some reason both lost the ability to modify pop into cyborgs and could not turn them into synths as a fate worse than Death for them
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>>182945910
I handed one of my pops over to the FE's preserve in the 2200s, and while my species became latent psychic, then full psychic in 2400, the ones on The Preserve remained regular plebs, and remained regular plebs even when I killed the FE and conquered The Preserve.

It doesn't actually bother me in the slightest, because I like being able to tell the difference between historically divergent strands of my populatuon more than I like narrative to gameplay consistency, but I do agree that it makes no sense flavour-wise.
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>>182946401
How strong do you have to be to take Fallen Empires?
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>>182947096
They scale to galaxy size now.
Before you'd need about 40K fleet power at least.
Now FEs can have roughly 200K fleet power on max sized galaxies.
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>>182947632
God.
I always get bored before getting that big.
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>>182947632
They should have made Awakened empires something you can toggle at game start like Crisis's
because as it is now I refuse to play with something that is guaranteed to be an lose since like the Crisis's they can quickly snowball to the point where it becomes impossible to catch up to them and you can't rely on alliances with AI Empires because of how retarded they are with Wars and shit
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>>182948024
Speaking of Awakened Empires, is the whole War in Heaven and League of Non-Aligned Worlds inspired by Babylon 5? Cause it sounds really similar to Babylon 5.
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>>182799867
shit like this is the reason I don't play skylines
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>>182806785
what's the problem with this one

it looks complicated but if you're actually driving on it, it'd be fine
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>>182948024
>possibility to lose
>refuse to play unless it's baby mode
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>>182947096
Depends on whether or not you have the autism to Sun Tzu them (i.e. prosecute war by micro hell).
If you do, then you can probably manage to beat an FE/AE of any size with a fleet of about 50k - although the Sun Tzu strategy plases massive emphasis on a good, LARGE, army, which can end up consuming a significant portion of your resources on its own, compared to normal Stellaris warfare where armies are an afterthought.

If you do not have autism, then take solace in the fact that fleet power is a lie and a good loadout plus good strategy will see you able to take down the doomstack once yours is about 60% their strength.
But given that AEs routinely exceed 500k before they even start snowballing, this may not be that much of a consolation.
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>>182949849
Apparently I don't know shit about warfare in Stellaris.
Teach me oh wise one?
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Where do I pirate the DLCs for stellaris?
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>>182950696
READ OP.
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>>182950825
thank ye
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Where the fuck is the civ 6 expansion. This shit better be godly
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>>182951434
let's take bets as to what insigniicant meme country gets adopted as a "civilization" next. i mean they put Australia in, so clealry this game is no longer Civ but Country Meme 6
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>>182952417
I've still never played VI, so idk what they have in there already.
Armenia? That's a meme non-country.
It'll be led by Queen Zabel, of course.
:^)
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Jesus GalCiv3 UI is so fucking bad after playing some Amplitude game
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>that fucking science spike when you get the stockpile tech as the Cult
FUG
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>>182954614
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>>182952417
>let's take bets as to what insigniicant meme country gets adopted as a "civilization" next. i mean they put Australia in, so clealry this game is no longer Civ but Country Meme 6

Should make New Zealand, aka Australia's meme nation.
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Is there any good guide for Stellaris?
My friend got the game recently but they're fairly overwhelmed by it.
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>>182957698
> "asking for a friend"
It's OK anon, you can admit that you're a n00b pleb here. what is giving you trouble?
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>>182957873
Fucking hell pre 1.3 vanilla looks ugly

Was this before or after they merged in Beautiful battles?
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>>182958031
Before.
You can tell by the triangular fleet distribution.
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>>182957873
I understand the game just fine.
I just find it difficult to explain each and every thing to them on the fly.
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>>182957873
Speaking of ground armies, how many should I have built when I go to war?
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>>182958338
If you're doing regular warfare against an equivalent opponent, it doesn't really matter. Once you kill their doomstack they have no power to resist your tender caresses, because you can take all the time in the world to bombard their planets down to 0, at which point a cuddly kitten could walk in and occupy it.
***HOWEVER***, what you DO need armies for is to stop the planets rebelling straight back to the enemy after the peace treaty. So my recommendation would be that you want a stack of 10 for each planet you expect them to cede.
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>>182922554
what happens when there's more than one train?
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>>182958629
>that general name
I appreciate Stellaris advice, but neck yourself.
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>>182949967
Don't ever use one fleet alone. Use several "combat" fleets to take out spaceports and SOMETIMES siege a planet. Always keep them away from the enemy's doomstack. The enemy's dooms tack will be distracted with a decoy fleet (or many). These decoys will be a band of about 10 semi naked corvettes (give en the best FTL tech and speed you have, keep em in groups of 10 so they can take out any mining station quickly). These decoys will be waiting on systems for the doomstack to arrive, and when they do, warp them away.
All the while you will be landing groups of 30 troops in every planet (the more at the same time the better). With those numbers, you probably won't have to siege. Do this until you have 100% warscore.
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Memes aside how is civ6? Is it different enough from civ 5 to have fun with?
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>>182958704
:^)
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>>182958819
I take back my criticism. That's actually awesome.
Praise him.
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>>182958747
No.
It's boring and forgettable.
Unlike Civ V, it does not induce "One More Turn" syndrome. You just don't find yourself wanting to play it.
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>>182958747
If you have fun by playing shit games it's worth it
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>>182958960
That seems to be common, considering how many people here play Stellaris.
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>>182959148
The difference is that Stellaris is shallow addictive crap, whereas VI is just shallow crap.
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>>182958629
Isn't it better to just vassalize them and integrate them into your empire later on?
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>>182959346
>integrate
yes yes! Diversity is strength!
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>>182930673
>get hobbies
>get a job
>get a gf
and yet here i am. there really is no escape.
Let's talk about beautiful cities.
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>>182959421
I would like all of them to remain vassals too, but as my amount of vassals grow, they seems to be more and more disloyal.
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>>182959346
It's situational, and the answer is usually no.

The nominal advantages of liberate-integrate are a) the pops don't get unhappiness penalty, and b) it doesn't generate threat so doesn't cause other empires to gang up against you.
But happiness is a total meme in Stellaris so b) is the only functional advantage - and yes, it can indeed be useful if you're in a situation where everyone deciding they hate you would be a Bad Thing.

Meanwhile, the advantages of outright cede demands are that it gives you the planets and their resources right now, and it doesn't cost you all your blurple mana in integration fees.

I usually find that Stellaris diplomacy is shallow anyway to the extent that everyone usually hates you no matter what you do, rendering liberate-integrate's only advantage moot.
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>>182952417

Polan in Civ 5 was the signal they had ran out of real civs, expect Canada , Finland or a shitty South American country.
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>>182959760
The problem is I actually don't want any of these planets, so I prefer all of them to be my vassals. I hate managing sectors. From all my runs I never establish any sector before except for one game. The fucking AI messed up my Gaia world and other one of the best planet I had. I will never let AI control any of my planet again.
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>>182960127
>poland
You don't know much about history do you?
Poland was a big deal in history.
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>>182952417
They already said one of them would be African
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>>182960135
I do not deny that the AI is retarded, but how do you even accomplish anything if you stay restricted to, what, max 15 systems all game?

You really need to get the ol' "Lv1 building of each type, sectorise, sector redevelopment: off" strategy up and running
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>>182960280
> big deal in history
So was Uzbekistan, but that's not the point. Resorting to meme nations == resorting to meme nations == ded gaem.
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>>182960669
This may have had greater rhetorical effect if I'd remembered my pic
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>>182960127
I for one am looking forward to seeing the ancient Finnish empire revived in a Civ game.
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You know what would make Genetic engineering path more fun in Stellaris?
the ability to turn other races into your species through it, like as a unique purge option or something
and something like that for the robot path as well, maybe even some cool unique flavor text events or shit for it, like if you start turning a spiritualist FE species into robots or turning a xenophobe FE into your species
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>>182960791
Timurids =/= uzbekistan
Poland was important far longer than the timurids
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>stellaris
>very early war not even 10 years in to the gane to cede my neighbors planets to me
>oh shit i fucked up and got my shitty stack of corvettes killed
>w-white peace pls?
>ebemy: ha ha don't be kidding you're losing this war!
>immediately afterwards he tries to siege my planet and his whole fleet gets decimated by one space port
>white peace requests coming out from him every week
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I thought homebrewing EL in 5th would be fun.

Then I got to the Allayi.

Kill me.
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>>182960501
I see. I'll do that in the future. However the star system that is in a sector seems to not belong to me anymore, just personal feeling. Which is also the reason why I usually play in the smallest map.
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Is the AI crisis supposed to be this piss easy? I just watched it spawn about 400 years in and the initial fleets got instantly put down by the NPC empire it spawned in, now the NPC fleet's just parked over the AI world and nothing seems to be happening.
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>>182962316
It's not but it's been broken since release.

Apparently they are fixing it in 1.8
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>>182962458
My understanding is that the Allayi were the dominant intelligent species on Auriga before Endless arrived.

Then Endless told Allayi to fuck off, nearly eradicated them, then started uplifting shit left and right, which is where the Drakken started.

Drakken at that point thought they were the first because the Allayi were almost extinct and had gone into hiding.
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>>182962830
Endless also cloned one of the allayi for the scyther/guardian killer units.
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>>182962439
their methods of 'fixing' it involves removing it the AI rebellion completely and and turning it into exactly the same type of shit as the other two crisis called "The Contingency" which is just killbots coming from out of Galaxy with the goal to kill all sentient life and other robots
and they are also recycling the AI rebellion into just being a small mid game event chain like thing that only will affect an individual empire
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>>182963339
One thing you gotta give to stellaris is absolutely stellar writing.
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Speaking of robots

https://twitter.com/Martin_Anward/status/886937702695874562
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>>182963512
yeah, its a shame as well
the whole 'at X years Y crisis will come out of nowhere to kill everyone' thing is just boring
I wish all the crisis were more like the AI rebellion where if it happens and gets a foothold its because the player ignored the warning signs and/or didn't prepare for it.
I want the 3 crisis to be caused by player/AI empire neglect, not just timegates that basically say "you should have finished this game by now, here is your punishment"
it annoys me because I like to go full turtle and spend nearly all the game slowly building up and preparing for a series of Wars one after another and the way crisis's work just seem like a fuck you to that playstyle because I will start taking land from people and then the unbidden will suddenly be at my doorstep to say hello
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>>182958932
One More Turn syndrom almost made me fail my courses
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Can someone help me out with an ISO for Civ 2 MGE for the purposes of science?

I'm the guy who got Civ 3 working in Linux through WINE, now I want to try Civ 2 but I can't find a decent ISO to test on.
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>>182963686
>One thing you gotta give to stellaris is absolutely stellar writing.
lol
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>>182965393
Isn't Freeciv a thing on Linux? Also holy fuck that picture makes my eyes ache
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>>182964652
AI crisis is too easy to avoid.
Either just give the toaster's rights and accept the Accord, don't build them or dismantle them on sight.
Alternatively just have full defence armies on all planets with Synth slaves and suffer through the infiltration events until you get to the end.

The Unbidden will never be avoided because fucking Jump Drives. If you don't get them the AI will

What could even cause the swarm? Fucking about with the bio ascension stuff? AI is too incompetent to even take the 2nd perk for any of the three ascension paths. You rarely see the AI take one.
So that leaves it to the player which brings us back to the AI Rebellion scenario where it's too easy to avoid or deal with.
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>>182960845
So much yes!
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>>182965505
Freeciv is disgustingly horrible, have you played it? It's Python-shit-slow like all Python-shit. Python is good for certain things, not video games.

What about this
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>>182966015
I haven't, actually, I just know it exists and it's supposed to be a feature-complete clone of Civ II.
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>>182965393
can't you buy it?
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>>182964652
Prethoryn I'm kinda fine with sine they are a extragalactic invaders and whatnot.

Unbidden are wasted potential. Having events that are getting progressively worse as you continue to use jump drives, ending with the full blown crisis will be a hell of a lot better than GALACTIC POWER SURGE.

Say, you start using jump drives, eventually you start getting reports of ships with their crews gone (maybe have the obligatory survivor who has gone mad). All sorts of warnings that something bad is gonna happen. Later on when the invasion is inevitable have stuff like ghostly ships being reported in your systems, people in fringe colonies vanishing without a trace, maybe have a unique Shroud event for the psionic empires the next time they drop by for a visit.
And it's not like this shit is gonna be hard to make. They've got the assets they need, it's just scripting and, oh, right. Paradox. That's too much work for a small family company.

>>182964175
>Some brand new robot models are coming
>doesn't show one
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>>182966097
No, I don't buy good video games.
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>>182963339
God damn it.

Wish they'd make Sentient AI (and to a lesser extent Administrative AI), Sentient Combat Simulations actually dangerous to research. Like Sentient AI might cause a planet or entire sector to slowly rebel, where the organic population is killed off by every auto-door and toaster on the planet. Where Sentient Combat AI might cause a fleet to rebel and the only defense would be to use basic computers in ships.

That xenomorph cavalry might have a chance to escape control or genemoded supersoldiers decide that they should be the ones in charge.
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>>182965602
yeah the whole thing definitely needed some Tweaking but Wiz took the lazy approach of solving it, instead of fixing it he just decided to turn it into the others.
But here is what I would do with the 3 different Crisis

AI rebellion
>more implied behind the scene shit with lots of timed special projects popping up, the more that you don't complete the harder you will have of putting the rebellion down
>have the special projects just be shit like finding rogue robots building colonys on uninhabitable planets and stuff like that
>basically make the AI rebellion something you have to search and hund down for and exterminate
Prethoryn scourge
>one of two things
>Either keep them as the out of nowhere crisis and the ONLY one that can seemingly come out of nowhere
>or make it so that at first a fuckhuge 'scouting' fleet will wander the Galaxy for an amount of time before fucking off and if it isn't destroyed before then a few years later they would come in full force and crisis begins
Unbidden
>have it be an escalating type thing directly connected with the amount of Jump drives and how much they are being used
>at first occasionally it might cause a single smallish stack of unbidden ships to appear somewhere in the galaxy
>the stacks would start small at something like maybe 10-20K and slowly build up to the usual 70+ which would indicate that they are about to arrive
>when they do arrive it carries on like it does now
>multiple different factions of unbidden appearing at once would be more of common
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>>182964175
>>182964251
>>182966301
https://twitter.com/Martin_Anward/status/886973082338037761
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>>182966092
That it may be, but it's hardly a well executed experience
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Is Stellaris actually a 4X game? If not what is it? Just an RTS?
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>>182970029
Do you explore, expand, exploit and exterminate in Stellaris?
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>>182970029
its grand strat
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>>182960127
But Mongolia is already in Civ 5.
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>>182970029
Shit
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>>182962231
What is that?
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>>182970231
I do that too in Age of Empires.
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>>182966818
Sword of the Stars had a decent AI rebellion. Once you researched enough AI techs you had a small chance every turn to trigger an AI revolt, dependent on both how much AI tech you've researched and how extensively you're using AI. When it did happen, the AI would seize a number of colonies, would not only begin constructing its own armadas but would also seize control of any ships that you installed with an AI control module, and would generally fuck the entire galaxy up unless someone overpowered it or you managed to develop a limited kill switch.
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>>182963339
Except AI Rebellion is still in, they just didn't feel that it was ever as good as the other endgame crisis so the entire thing has been made a mid-game event that can happen, and you're getting the contingency in addition as a true endgame crisis involving AI>
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Holy good fucking god I hate Keeper FEs so FUCKING MUCH STOP RUINING MY GAMES WITH >50k FLEETS AAAAAAHHHHH
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Amplitude released official balance mod for ES2.
https://www.games2gether.com/endless-space-2/forums/66-game-design/threads/27427-g2g-balance-mod-feedback
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1077924717

P.S. Vodyani are even more powerful now
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>>182972357
>no changes to the outright broken vodyani hero skill
Very nice.
Also
>Increased effects of Need to Breed (from 20% to 30%)
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>>182972357
This is fucking bizarre, but okay.
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>>182973041
>Overcolonization threshold is lower for higher galaxy size but a System at max level increases this threshold by 1, removing fully developed systems from the equation altogether
brainlet here, does this mean that max level systems are effectively "free" in terms of overcolonization?
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>>182973337
Fucking finally, I'm sick of having to go religious when I want a conquest victory.
Also, shouldn't conquest and supremacy victories be swapped?
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>>182972357
>We'd like to try a new way of testing out balance changes before making them live: releasing them as part of a mod! Mods are easy to activate and deactivate, and they're quick for us to tinker with on our end.

That's. Actually pretty clever.
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The mod isn't working for me. Tried subscribing to it with both public and current beta patch versions.
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Show me your most used Empire you like to play as
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>>182974139
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>>182973517
You may still end up having to go religious because of harsher approval penalties on individual planets. One good thing about this per pop approval business is that they should finally be able to fix how riftborn still hate shitty worlds despite loving them lore-wise.
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>>182974363
I don't mind that so much because I don't really start going full galaxy expansion until fairly late-game, by which time I've usually terraformed everything to a better state.
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>>182973041
Max level system is unlocked with the final level of the economy quadrant, that seems a bit late and will really fuck over warmongers.
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>>182973968
Remember you also need to activate it in-game.
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>>182974534
>>182974746
Oh right, I'm retarded. Forgot there's a mods section in the title screen since I've never used mods for Amplitude games.

Also the Vodyani hero senator skill actually got nerfed, it's just not in the mod's patch notes.
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>>182974717
>will really fuck over warmongers
Good, war is absolute easy mode in ES2 at the moment.
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So does the gas giant planet specialization that you unlock in the end-tier of industrial tech just not appear?
I can't see it anywhere on any of my systems with gas giants.
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>>182949967
Over 9000 hours in MS Paint
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>>182975584
The solution isn't to make military expansion ridiculously punishing though.
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>>182976269
>.gif
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>>182975352
The system skill is also way OP.
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>>182976529
>endless war
hue
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>>182976284
Just google "stellaris mods" you dingus
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>>182974624
I don't know how people can avoid war for so long. By turn 80 I'm usually halfway through a war with Cravers or that faggot Horatio, and it's not like you can abandon their useless planets right away, and handing them back to your enemy feels somewhat retarded, so you're stuck with several systems of toxic and barren worlds full of angry, unhappy, starving horatios, which drag down your national average.
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>>182976824
okay I guess you wanted me to find this
http://stellarismods.com/

B-but now I have to find all those mods again on this site ;_;
I guess that will probably take less time than waiting for someone willing to download and upload those mods though. C'est la vie.
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>>182977273
ask reddit
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>>182977273
>I guess that will probably take less time than waiting for someone willing to download and upload those mods though
Fun fact, the last person to pester the general for mods went on a several hundred post shitposting spree about how terrible we were and got banned.
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>>182977473
I actually uploaded the 'Evil Names' mod he wanted. I replaced every name in there with faggot and deviations of faggot.
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>>182977665
Top fucking kek
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>>182977665
Doing god's work.
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>>182977373
>>182977473
Damn look at those last two digits on these posts. They have the same sets of digits, and they're right next to each other in this thread. Check'd!

>Fun fact, the last person to pester the general for mods went on a several hundred post shitposting spree about how terrible we were and got banned.
The bar for this compliment is set so very low, and yet I am still glad that I am not that guy
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>>182976342
It would be better if there was some way to speed up system assimilation so you didn't have to wait 13 turns before you can abandon a shit 1-planet system you conquered from the enemy.
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>>182977191
I don't avoid war, I just play it defensively and don't capture enemy systems that I don't want.
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>>182977764
Here's the only creativity I put into the mod.
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>>182978402
Nice browser choice anon.

Thats far funnier than it has any right to be
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>>182930128
Actually making a good game is a failure of the game designer. It's also sexist. And racist. Probably Islamophobic as well.
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>only one system with Proto-Spores in the entire galaxy
>it isn't on a constellation
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>>182978402
DEVLISH
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>>182960330
>African civilizations
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>>182958819
PRAISE
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>>182978402
>Ruin of the Faggots
That sounds like a fucking doctor who episode
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>>182960330
""""""""""""""""Civilization""""""""""""""""
Fuck's sake, wouldn't a lot of African Civilizations literally not have Agriculture?
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>>182978854
what's the deal with constellations
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>>182979532
They won't exactly be the first in the series or even the game.
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>>182979570
Trade routes can only go through constellations.
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>>182979570
Constellations are systems linked by the hyperlanes and after researching wormhole travel constellations are linked by wormholes. Trade routes can only travel through constellations and wormholes on unlocking them. If a system isn't on a constellation it takes far longer to travel to it and trade routes can't use it.
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>>182979513
It's Mike Pence's superhero name.
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Old Pacifist sticky law (+5/10% FIDSI per peace or alliance) was moved to last tier law and the new starter pacifist law is giving the ability to force peace on cold war opponents.
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>>182980287
lmao lumerisfags blown the fuck out
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Question on Stellaris

How do I get one of my vassals' systems? No habitable planets, just asteroids. The system has a overall mineral score of 42.
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>>182976269
Thanks.
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>>182979612
Most of those were stuff like Mali though, which was definitely up-to-date before it exploded.
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>>182981043
Force your borders to envelop it by building a million frontier outposts as close as possible to it, and then once you have one in the system itself delete them all.

Or integrate, there are no other vanilla options.
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>>182981176
And whats to say it won't be someone like Mali again. No one complained about the Zulu in V and they're only relevant because of a Michael Caine film about a battle they lost.
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>>182981043
INTEGRATE
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>>182979110
to be frank, there were a few notable ones, namely the west-african ones (ghana, mali, and songhai) and the city-state of mogadishu back during the proper indian ocean trade network
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>>182981364
>no one complained about
Speak for yourself, wasn't even a good movie.
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>>182981876
>wasn't even a good movie.
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>>182980287
honestly i'm really glad that the pacifist sticky is no longer that stupid broken one, but i kinda don't like the new sticky; i would've probably preferred a big discount on non-aggressive diplomatic proposals

i'll have to play around with it more to get a proper feel for it, though
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>>182981876
>wasn't even a good movie
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>>182960330
Hoping for South Africa.

Actually knowing Firaxis, no, fuck that, I'm not.
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There's also other changes not mentioned in the mod release notes. In addition to Vodyani hero Infallible Authority nerf (removed "per hero level" modifier), Guardian hero skill Vox Populi (+40/80% Industry on system) got its effect halved (+20/40% Industry) as well.
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>>182982439
They completely removed the existence of the natives from the Australia civ, can't see why they wouldn't do the same here.
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>Civ 6 expansion adds Mongolia
>it's led by Roman von Ungern-Sternberg
How would you feel?
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>>182982864
>not gengis mccann
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Second stellaris game:
>Jingoistic reclaimers next to my border
>Benevolent interventionists on the other side of the galaxy
these two awakaned empires went to war and each essentially owns all the small empires in the galaxy but wait there's more!
>watchful regulators have awakaned too and just declared war on the most powerful (after me) neutral empire
>the unbidden have joined the slam jam too, they seem to be doing their own thing and I estimate their strenght at 160k
My fleet power is about 220k and I almost hit my max naval capacity, but every awakaned empire shows up as "equivalent" fleet power and capacity.
Instead of exceeding my fleet capacity and ruining my economy I've devised a plan of stocking up minerals (56k+527mo) so that in case of war I can put to work my 3 best spacesports to build fleets asap.
I should also mention that I have op soldiers and +7 gene traits, also I'll soon unlock a new ascension and I don't know if I should get the +200 fleet capacity or the one that deals +33% damage to fallen/awakened empire

pls advise
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>>182986616
First stellaris game:
>xenos next to my border
>xenos on the other side of the galaxy
>blob out and kill everyone

Second stellaris game:
>xenos next to my border
>xenos on the other side of the galaxy
>blob out and kill everyone

Thirds stellaris game:
>never happened
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>>182986616
+33% damage
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>>182986616
+200 fleet capacity is better than +33%
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>>182987048
>>182987242
I'm getting conflicting messages

>>182986949
muh xenophilia
I could begin doing this by leaving the neutral pact and going off on my own, they're all a bunch of scrawny weakling at this point, but only if it'd help the war effort on the long run
Also just found out that the fleet power of the archivers is nearly the same as mine
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>>182987810
I'd take fleetcap too.
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>>182987810
>I'm getting conflicting messages
Look at it this way;
>+33% damage which only applies to FE/AE fleets
OR
>flat +200 fleet capacity which adds up to more than +33% damage of your current fleet PLUS you can use it against anyone, not just FE/AEs
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>>182986616
Fleetcap definitely, that +200 is before modifiers so in due time it will effectively have more than a 33% effect on your damage by virtue of having a fuckton more ships.

Also your game sounds rad as fuck desu, in mine only one FE woke up and the other two died like bitches. This >>182962316 happened too so other than fighting the FE I no longer have anything to threaten me. And this AE is no longer a threat either because I such a big goddamn fleet I can easily take on every other empire in the galaxy banded together in one federation, so I conquered half the galaxy and got enough fleet cap to overtake the AE's fleet.

Now boredom is my only enemy.
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>>182989270
>Now boredom is my only enemy.
less of that misoginy, shitlord
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>>182988595
>>182988984
>>182989270
dun did, shipyards are now shitting ships like no tomorrow thanks to 40%+ fleet size

Space bullies won't know what hit them.
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>Change the traits of Humans in Human governments so they are more accurate:
>1. Slow learners
>2. Conformist
>3. Nomadic
>4. Repugnant
>5. Rapid breeders (the main reason Homo sapiens outlived other members of the Homo genus btw)
>These are the traits of an infectious disease
>Mfw
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>>182990083
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>>182972357
>Vodyani are even more powerful now
Not true. Authority has finally gotten the per level attribute removed.
>>182972829
>But they changed the name of that act a long time ago to not offend SJWs.
Laws has 2 names. Short one is racial purity, as you can see on your very own screenshot
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>>182990083
Ditch nomadic and I'm with you.
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>>182990083
>Rapid breeders
I know you're memeing but you know we're a K species right?
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>>182990424
Biology is a social construct.
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Why does the /rtsg/ is together with /civ4xg/ ?
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>>182990325
>Not true. Authority has finally gotten the per level attribute removed.
Yeah, in addition to laws and approval there seems to be a handful of changes that aren't actually in the change log for some god damn reason. Can't be arsed enough to rummage through every hero skill tree and other shit, but has anyone found anything else than Infallible Authority and Vox Populi nerfs? Guardian pops got this change.
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>>182991106
They merged in with us, we're functionally /PC games where you control large groups of people but not quite on a Grand strategy level General/
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>>182991254
So is it ok to talk about red alert in here?
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>tfw green Yshek Foundation
>bros with orange to north
>explore full arm south all the way to spiritualist FE
>only potential colony in that whole arm is a gaia world on their borders
>decide to grab a colony in the northwest
>start exploring
>bump up against xenophobe FE

Ayy lmao well I intended to try a tall game anyways. Unless me and orange can exterminate dark blue.
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>>182991351
Probably.
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>>182991351
Totally.
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>>182991351
You can talk about it if you want, just don't be surprised if there aren't many responses.
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>>182991254
>PC games where you control large groups of people
Geez, I need to play different genres. This just fucking made me realize what I have been playing in the last 4 years.
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>>182991210
>change log for some god damn reason
Worse, it's not even displaying in game properly because Amplitude can't into their own code.apparently
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>>182962231
What kind of rpg is that?
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Alright. Going back to EL after 100+ hours on ES2. Haven't touched it since guardians, so there are a lot of shit I don't recognize.
Also I never really played anything outside of cultists and BL, so I launched a wild walker game on difficult because I'm a pussy.
Any advice ?
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>>182991210
This influence bonus/malus was actually present in 1.0.20, just not listed anywhere.
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>>182991971
>wild walkers
Laugh and win the easiest victory you'll ever win.
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>>182992053
Iirc, they're good at wonder victory, right ? Or quest maybe ?
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>>182992109
Wonder is easy with them, they have a really easy quest line and receive boosts to production.
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>>182991652
You're playing a spreadsheet. There's no reason to play 4x other than autism, nobody does it to pretend they have power over large groups of people.
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>>182992167
Aight. I think I'll do all the roster anyway, so I wanted to start with the vanilla race. Forgotten, Allayi and Morgawr look neat
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>>182992376
Morgawr are really fun and a great way to get your head around the newly introduced naval game. Their flavour is also great.
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>>182992463
>shit empire
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>>182991654
Forced peace treaty messages.
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>>182992561
>We're doing this because it's smart
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>>182992561
They misspelled seriously.
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>>182992463
>also fuck mods
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>>182992463
>just
Sums it up well.
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>>182991971
>Any advice ?
Getting Shadows, Shifters and Tempest on sale for maximum comfy.
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>>182992757
I already have them, that's why I'm fucking lost since I only played vanilla and a bit of guardians
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I can't wait to play ES2 once all of the bugs are fixed.
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>>182992808
Are those the actual EL names?
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>>182992896
I can't wait for the expansion packs to be honest. I need new races and mechanics
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>>182936348

>One of them, the most prized one, instantly rebels and goes back to the most advanced empire without even giving me the chance to fight

Boots on the ground anon. You didnt had them.
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>>182992975
I'd settle for Horatio actually working.
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>>182992949
The ones in the files, yes
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>>182993092
BDSM wizards is a bit on the nose.
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>>182993079
What do you mean ? Horatio is tons of fun at the moment. Only the start is slow but that's the case for some of the other factions as well
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>>182993092
Which one is Mad Faeries?
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>>182992837
Oh. Play Morgawr for fucking anyone bold enough to build a boat
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>>182993482
I guess that makes sense.
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>>182993452
My favourite part of Morgawr is the late-game where you have so much influence and gold you can just have swarms of powerful armies destroying everything without war or diplomatic penalties.
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>>182993482
But the madness tho ?
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>>182993237
I mean the fact that gene splicing is bugged and doesn't work after a certain amount of time.
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>>182993732
Deys angry faeries, dude.
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>>182993662
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>>182994745
Kinky
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>>182993732
They switch their minds with bears for fun
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>>182992463
>everyone literally getting psychic
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Amplitude why
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>>182997051
I dont get it
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>>182997308
There's literally no reason for Forgotten to value Language Square that much. With that one shitty tech, I managed to jew out an era 4 tech AND a peace treaty.
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>>182996129
Happy MC Ride is best MC Ride.
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>>182997442
>20 turns later they fuck you up with their new minor factions bros
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>no way to increase the number of fleet actions in ES2
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>>182997554
What would MC Ride traits and ethos be
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>>182993732
read up on the sharing
when they used to live in the trees, the shamans basically ruled; for entertainment and spiritual fulfillment, they would all get together and mind-swap with wild animals like bears and big cats
eventually this and the winters caused their society to collapse, which is why the king brought them out into the plains and started an actual civilization
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>>182998000
>he doesn't know
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>>182998657
Enjoy getting gimped by 1-ship fleets using up your entire 29CP fleet's SINGLE action for the turn making you unable to siege a system because there's still another 1-ship fleet sitting there cockblocking you.
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AHHHHH
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>>183000043
And this time, its personal.
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>>182907968
Fucking shits Eastern Roman Empire would have so many interesting Emprahs to use like White Death of Saracens or Bulgar slayer. But they choose that bitch who did not even rule .
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>>182999856
Planet cracker takes FIVE FUCKING TURNS to charge. Enemy can easily win by boring you to death.
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>>183000043
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>>183000043
You think death is enough to stop Horatio?
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>>183000043
>thinking death can stop the most perfect being in the universe
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>>183000571
It'll be Horatio.
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>>183000320
cropping off a line at the top and a bit at bottom left

also >>183000000
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>>183000891
>a moderation complaint got such a good get
ANGERY
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new thread
>>183001865
>>183001865
>>183001865
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>>182992221
Yeah, all those people who are "purging xeno scum" could have just saved thier money and deleted some columns in an open office or Google drive spreadsheet.
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>>182982610
>Removing Abos from Australia
Nothing of value was lost.




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