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Guys Lao Hu when?
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Thread needs bumping, post Stealth Armor builds
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a mech for the modern urban?
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What are some gerg approved vintage timber wolf builds appart from the cookie cutter laser vomit and srm + medium pulse brawl wolf?
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>>185708829
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>>185710023
SRM MPL wasn't a thing but goose is+ lasers & ERPPC goose were
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>>185710023
It was 24srm + 5spl brawl wolf
mpls were way too hot back then

Now it's all goose and lasers
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Okay, so i made this Summonner with quad medipulse, double AMS, shitton of DHS, maxed survival, weapon cooldown and operaions tree.
And you know what? Turned out great asspoker, almost unstoppable brawling if you'll be able to survive till the midfight.
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>>185712510
All you have is 4 MPL?
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>>185712510
S M H
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>>185712510
that is one extremely weak payload for a heavy mech
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>>185712510
>tfw you could do this in a purifier
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>>185712510
>quad med pulse
>70 tons
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Guys, guys
What if
Hear me out here
What if
Quad Heavy Medium Pulse Lasers?
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>>185714928
Bad joke.
The build is bad and you should feel bad.
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Why is it always a King Crab?
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>>185715292
they are reclusive and timid creatures
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Is it even possible to win anymore without personally killing every single one of the enemies? I don't think it is.

When did the matchmaking become this bad?
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>tfw cute fox in polar wasteland
>deal 700 dmg with your ebin purifier 4 med pulse
>Shut down a good portion of the enemy missile boats with your 3 normal ams because heat's an issue
>score 2 kills while at it
>win
Damn it feels good to be a gangsta
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>>185716378
Cute fox a best.
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>>185716424
Amen
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>>185716378
>assault
>old man assaults spewing orders in mic say they are staying behind to defend the base
>lose, obviously

f-feels good hehe
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7 games, every single one of them a loss, every single one of them I do top damage

I'm done with this game.
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>>185716739
bye
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>>185716739
you just need to carry harder, maybe do more than 400 damage too
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>>185716484

>listening to an old man get more and more irate as his team leaves him further and further behind
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>>185718606
>Tfw muting a small talking old man
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>uziel getting hitboxes adjusted
inb4 they make the ct bigger instead of the arms
inb4 no quirks
inb4 still the size of an assault
inb4 no properly aligned torso

then wait another month for pgi to do something
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>>185721667
What they should do is transfer mass from the torsos to the arms so they can act better as shields, and maybe the legs, too.
That would alleviate the torso size problem, while making the jewziel more durable overall.
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>Light
Commando
Spider
Raven
Jenner

>Medium
Cicada
Blackjack
Trebuchet
Hunchback
Centurion
Kintaro

>Heavy
Dragon
Quickdraw
JagerMech
Catapult
Cataphract
Orion

>Assault
Awesome
Victor
Stalker
Highlander
Atlas

Pick the best of each class from the original release lineup.
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>>185723140
most likely they will just convert some of the side torsos into arms and call it a day

still wont save it from being the worst medium in the game
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>>185723223
Firestarter
Blackjack
Cataphract
Victor
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>>185723223
>tfw no zeus
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>>185723310
>Victor
Has there ever been a bigger fall from grace in video game history?
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>>185723712
What we need is a masc variant, so that I can appropriate the mrm brawl build on it.
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I got free money so I finished my "King Greggules" Orion IIC
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I wish Polar Highlands and Crimson Strait didn't fucking exist, what dreadful uninspired maps
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>>185724470
Crimson Strait did nothing wrong.
Just played my first laser vomit zeus game in ages in said map, after almost exclusively doing zeus mrm brawls since civil war patch.
Melting CTs for pubbies is always so satisfying.
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>>185724978
worst map in the game
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>>185713309
Yes, two-three salvos and you're out, while in this i can do C O N S I S T E N T damage. I've seen NU-bombercent pissed while overheating on me. This was niiiiiiice.

>>185714574
It's not CW and i usually bring 3-4 kills, i dont think this is bad.
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>>185716123
Matchmaking is okay, it's just you being tier4 shitter.
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>>185725707
It's very bad
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>>185725821
>thinking tiers matter
>thinking matchmaking is fine
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>>185725707
At least add lmgs to the ams torso hardpoints so you can disarm and destroy quicker.
With 1 ton of ammo, which is all you'll ever need, the total 1.5 ton investment is deffo worth
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>>185724978
they need to delete the mountain covering that tunnel
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but we can all agree that RIVER CITY is the absolute worst trash map in the game
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>>185726395
Still not as bad as Polar and Crimson, there's actually cover in the middle if you cross through the rocks and up the hill
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>>185726747
>if
>if
people in this game are braindead and for some reason river city just breaks their brains even further
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RAC's don't seem that great on the marauder as much as I want to use them, should I just go with a Heavy Guass, UAC's or AC10's/20's?
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>HPG incursion
>half the team including assaults go into basement, accomplish absolutely nothing and get gunned down
>other half is fuck all around the map, in their base dying to turrets, in our base doing nothing for some reason, dying in the middle trying to take top
>0-12
>gg t. enemy team

when does it get better
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>>185727237
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=345&l=e8ae0a123e75d5977df58b4c96e77cd5df34dc86

certified
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Maaan, less than a week till I can brandish my spudro with energy side torsos.
This wait is killing me.
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>>185727605
and do what? continue being trash?
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>>185727605
I've been doing Dual ER PPC and Streak 4s. 1, 2 Kerpow!
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>Playing with the Scorch
>Running the generic double LBX20 and 4 SRM6's
>Crimson Straight VIP
>Escorting the VIP very slowly
>Decide to check to the rear and watch the saddle
>Decide to check my back
>There was a Locust standing behind me
>He starts to turn so he can run away
>Alpha Strike as soon as I can
>Leg him immediately and watch him try to limp away
>Almost feel bad as I shove my two LBX20's in his CT and just end his life right right
God why are LBX's the most satisfying gun in this game, and what was that nerd even doing?
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>>185727858
I already managed to climb to tier 1 with it.
I specialize in piloting shitmechs, often reaching minimal viability through experience alone.
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>>185728067
>sub 2 kd in an assault
:^)
spurdo died with spulse
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>>185728126
It's a tough brawling lyfe.
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>>185728126
I don't feel too bad about it considering my prior build was just uac20 + 1 clpl
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So, i've used some of the GSP, turn out it didnt even use my GXP, it was free and wow i have like a shitton left and i see no downsides using it on a shitmechs i don't want to bother maxing out.

Where's the catch?
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I stopped playing MWO for about a year or so, what the heck happened to the skills, some shit got refunded and now I'm not sure what is going on.
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>>185728403
just click some buttons and you're good to go
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>>185723712

The Highlander.

The Victor has regained some of what it lost. The Highlander is still indescribably bad despite having been given all the quirks in the world on top of the skill tree and new tech
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>>185726025
Thx, will do.
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>>185728439
where can I look at some guides for nodes I can follow without thinking? I have RVN-4X, AS7-D-DC, ENF-4R, and SCR-B
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>>185728652
How about you just think instead
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>>185704276
Do you use the wrong OP at this point on purpose?
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>>185728652
Do this (picture) for every single mech.

Never put any points into Jump Jets, Operations or Sensor Systems.

Put rest of the points into Firepower and Consumables however you see fit.
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>matchmaking is ok
>constantly being paired with tier 5 shitters is good
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>>185728984
Mate operations really helps laser boats
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Why on earth are Snub PPCs under the same ghost heat as normal PPCs.

Its like PGI hates fun and balance
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>>185729456
Nowhere near as much as heat gen from firepower and cool shots from consumables
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>>185729628
>>185729456
Also, assuming you have 20 heatsinks, Operations will give you extra dissipation equivalent to 2 more heatsinks. A lot of laser vomit builds don't even have 20 heatsinks.

It's just not worth it.
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>>185729628
>consumables
Pic very related Anon


Thats why i get both Anon. A brawler doesnt need speed tweak so can use node for ops while still maximising the firepower and survival trees
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>>185730049
>A brawler doesnt need speed tweak
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>>185730049
>A brawler doesnt need speed tweak
You wot
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>>185730034
Its the max heat that makes the tree worth it

Started using it on my King Crab and i will never look back
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>tfw you explode a dual heavy gauss annihilator's sides from behind once again.
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>>185730359
>>185730214
SO you are saying that my 64kph LBX 20 MAD 3R needs speed tweak?
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>cucking yourself out of stacked heat gen+operations by speccing random shit like consumables or mobility
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>>185730628
>IS LB20
There goes your credibility.
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>>185730661
>cucking yourself by investing points into complete useless garbage like hill climb, quick ignition and improved gyro

lmao
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>>185730628
>LBX 20 MAD 3R
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The fox is cute
CUTE!
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>>185730628
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so lemme get this straight, I don't need to buy all variants of one mech to max out one?

but buying SP is expensive.
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>>185731954
sp is applied to the mech you buy it for so no no need to buy 3 variants
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>magazine capacity doesn't increase AMS ammo
explain this to me
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>>185732097
It's a damned shame
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>>185732097
PGIIIII

How did i not notice this
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>>185730705
>>185730921
>>185731553
Someone different here but what's the problem with IS LBX?
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>>185733551
Inferior in every single way to regular AC.

LB10 is the only exception.
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>>185733551
Shieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet
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>>185733551
It's main strength, at least on the clan side, is that it's somewhat pinpoint and you can fire two at once, this is still true to IS, but you've got better options due to pinpoint ballistics, and the crit slot investment makes it mandatory in a side torso, which also makes it impossible to use an LFE.
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>AC2 is 1 crit slot
>LB2 is 4 crit slots
pay 3 crit slots to downgrade your weapon, whoo
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Why does the Roughneck blow up so fast even with all the extra armor and structure it gets?
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>>185734654
Easily identifiable hit boxes allow quick removal of sections
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>>185734654
mostly side torso mounted weapons on a mech with massive bullet magnet side torsos
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>buy RACwacker
>performance and fun factor sky rockets
>try other new stuff
>miserable
>try going back to my old stuff
>still miserable
>go back to BushRACker
>unlimited fun returns

I don't understand myself
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>>185735229
I understand you
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>>185735229
It's the quirks, and the perfect hitboxes, and the overtuned IS weapons, and a non-shit engine choice
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What is a better ballistics platform

Jaeger or Rifleman?
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>kit fox ams tumors are part of Front ST hitbox
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>>185737012
I don't believe you
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Any ideas on how ghost heat could be removed?

As in is there a suitable system to replace it? One that would discourage boating but allow people to use weapons more freely.

I ask as I saw an old video about energy draw and it made a lot of good points. It wasn't perfect but there was something there.
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>>185737108
I dare you to google it.
I did when lost my torso due to them.
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>>185737182
Hardpoint sizes. But it's too logical and beneficial to the game so PGI can't think of it.
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>>185737316
Based in tonnage or critical slots?
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>>185736505
Rifleman has too little podspace to go all out ballistic with meme exceptions like rac5s or ac2s.
It's also relatively squish.
Jager can do more like uac10s, 3x uac5s, dual goose, ac20s and rac5 + lmg, but is exceptionaly squishy.

I would say rifleman is a bit better overall just cause the jager dies so incredably easily, but the rifleman aint exactly a "ballistic boat".
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>>185737387
Based on the size of the weapon originally mounted on the hardpoint. You'd still have crit slots as they are, no reason for them to go.

Of course the hardpoint CAN be bigger than the weapon originally mounted on it, as long as it makes sense.
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>hardpoint sizes meme
le trashman face
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>contrarian memeposting kong shitter meme
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>>185728984
>never put any points into sensor systems

what about seismic sensors and radar dep
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I keep forgetting is this shit a medium or a light.
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>>185728984
>not taking cool run on laser builds
>thinking radar dep and seismic are useless
>taking speed tweak on heavies and assaults

shiggy diggy
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>>185727237
An AC/20 ends up being stupid fun that never ceases to bring a smile to my face, unless I get sniped to death. Then that makes me mad enough that I charge and blast for the next match or two.
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>>185742138
>>185743975
seismic is fine if you want it
radar derp is not even close to worth it, prior to skill tree it was simply the least shit option after seismic
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>>185743206
Is that an Ice Ferret / Fenris? If so, It's a medium.
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>>185743206
that's a mist lynx, a light mech
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>>185743206
It's pretty much a fat light, kinda like the Viper. If you treat it like a light, you'll do ok. If you try to play it like a medium, you'll get fucked.
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>>185747763
nigga are you blind?
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>>185749241
doesn't look like a cougar to me
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"buuuuuut anoooon, the cicada is an irrelevant mech,and you are just hindering yourself by playing regular medidum lasers instead of er.mediums, just pay the heat toll dummy, it doesnt matter that you move at 148kmh and can bob and weave at wathever range you want because your mech has broken accel / deaccel values" "
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>>185749241
It was a shitty attempt at """humour""".
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>>185749430
It's just another type of Urbie. Take note of its trash-can shape, and lid-top cockpit.
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>>185749585
I don't think that there are many in this thread who would disagree with the sentiment that ER meds are a mistake
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>>185749585
I have not read a single post in this thread claiming ER meds are better than regular ones
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>>185749585
Who builds ER Meds on heat constraint mechs?


>Kill 40% of the enemy, still lose
You can't escape the potato
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>>185750631
try 50%
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koooooooong doprs
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>>185753040
ei
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>tfw actually glad you're dropping polar poland, since your kit fox will torment the enemy missile boats
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>le streamers making highlights of games where they don't use red smoke
lol
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>even youtube shitters know red smoke is cancer
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assassins are so fucking broken it's not even funny
>lmao just watch my phantom hitboxes not take any damage xddd
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>saving up for these expensive-ass XL engines so your mech isn't a slow POS
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Goddamn mad dog is shit.
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>>185759062
It's probably your build
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>>185759195
What build gives it actual armor instead of tissue paper?
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phil the shill streams new clam heroes
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>>185759062
>>185759309
You're probably trying to play it like something it's not. It's a light heavy designed for support, not frontal assaults or brawling.
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>>185759750
B-but srm 6 shenanigans no?
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>>185759750
>not frontal assaults or brawling
that's literally the thing it's best at
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>patience-senpai finally noticed me
Only took 5 years of verbally abusing shitters. I consider this losing my moderation virginity. Patience-senpai has defiled me.
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>>185723238

If they actually move more of the ST's to both arms and CT hitboxes, it might actually get better at XL mounting. It's still a tubby target for a medium.
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>>185727270

When PGI actually puts a functional PSR system vs. a "graduate everyone, no matter how bad".

So never, gotta endlessly feed more bad players into the games so the whales feel good enough to buy another Mechpack.
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>>185762757
XL isn't going to make it smaller than an assault
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>>185759750
And you can. But kinda like my SRM-Huntsman: just because I'm packing a shit ton of SRMs, doesn't necessarily mean I want anyone looking at me for more than a second or two. Because they will make you hurt very quickly if you're in their LoS for too long.
>>185760112
Charge into the enemy line in a Mad Dog and see how long you last. Yeah, it's great for beating the shit out of someone at close range if it is packing 6 SRM6s, but it does not want to be punched back. Of all the Clan heavies, it is the last one you want to be taking damage in

The Mad Dog plays like a big medium. Be mindful of its limitations and you can perform better in it.
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>>185763713
Clearly I need more sleep, meant to tag >>185759959 for point #1
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>>185737182

An actual functional heat scale.

If riding that 90% heatline left your robot a slow smoking tardbot who can't aim worth a damn, people would be more leery about heat and getting rid of it.

50% overheat in TT is enough to seriously fuck with movement, accuracy, and is just below the point where you start worrying about fucking up your ammo.

In MWO, who gives a shit? Heat means nothing unless you break 100%, and even then you're at full performance until something vital melts off from override.
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>>185763101

Like I said, it's still a tubby target.
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>>185764217
Now you've forced everyone to play gauss only.
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>>185764217
For that heatsinks actually need to work like they're supposed to. If I have thirty fucking dubs I'm supposed to be able to constantly fire quad er ppcs for an infinite time standing still on a heat neutral or colder map.

No Pig's magic 1.4x shitsinks and weapons that cycle five times faster compared to expected heat dissapation.
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Heads up to everybody that Mutant Epoch is scheduled for Saturday at 9 EST. It's been like three weeks since the last session because everyone has been flaking.
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>>185766347
what does that have to do with giant robots?
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>>185766476
Everything.
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>>185764436

No, you just made it harder to delete torsos in a second without a cost. And yes, you need to revamp the heat system Paul has utterly clusterfucked. Speaking of...

>>185764750

Yep, you also need to exorcise much of Paul's shitting around with heatsinks, which he's statted in an attempt to work with his spooky heat juju garbage.

>firing quad ER PPCs constantly at maximum ROF

No, firing an ER PPC four times in ten seconds would be heat neutral. Only in basic TT is rate of fire ignored, or the cost of rapid fire past the usual being heating up like a bitch and fucking your life up. In MWO terms, having quad ERPPCs means you can deliver more damage per spike, but then you'd have to deal with the overheat effects for a few seconds while dumping heat. A real DHS would dump .2 heat per second (so 30 would be 6 heat per second). Fire an ERPPC, you get rid of the heat completely in under two seconds. Fire two, you're removing the heat in five seconds. Fire four at once, and you're a twitching hot spaz until the 60 heat you dropped on your robot gets to vent. I'd probably give people a bigger heat bar with more heatsinks, though- so if you had 30 heat sinks, you'd have a broader bar between "cold" and "autoshutdown", and even old SHS builds would at least be a little more tolerant of cooking themselves.

But even an adaptation of overheating that was kinder than TT would mean something, as long as overheat = reduced performance. You don't want ammo explosions automatically, because that's a shit mechanic in a shooter. But you can have ammo damage, which means staying hot can reduce your shots remaining if you do it too much. Rather than just X kph per overheat level, you make it a percentage of ground speed so it scales to all robots. Instead of straight up targeting issues, you reduce agility so it's just harder to aim. And so on.

The spirit of the thing would likely be enough.
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>>185767509
You do realize one of the reasons why the whole game is fucked is because weapons have way more ROF than they're supposed to? 30 dubs= 60 dissapation, 4 erppc = 60 generation, which means that you should be able to dissapate all the heat from firing all four during the recycle time of an erppc. Not necessarily alpha strike, but the heat should be dissapating fast enough that you can chainfire them endlessly.

But of course low capacity high dissapation and real dubs will never happen because Pigger needs to sell coolshots to whales and tryhards.
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>play heavy
>melt
>play medium the exact same way
>resilient, torso twisting works, faster with nearly same armaments and sometimes even quirked out

Is Medium the best weight class??
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>>185768925
pretty much, yes.
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Is the Bushwacker a good buy? The only Mech I have right now is a Warhammer laser boat and I have enjoyed it a bunch.
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>>185770142
it's a good brawler
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>>185768365

Did you know that not all weapons have a ROF of once per ten seconds? AC/5's for example actually can be fired twice normally in the span of a standard TT turn. PPCs and large lasers are actually the only ones that have a standard firing rate that allows one shot/ten seconds. Even goosewaffles get off a shot every seven seconds or so, not ten.
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>>185770382
Maybe using Solaris Rules or some other weird ruleset, but not in the normal ones.
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Table Top is stupid as a MechWarrior balance frame of reference

I played MechWarrior 3, I know first-hand
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S M H
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>>185772503
it's ALWAYS a king crab
every time
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>>185772503
Effective at all ranges :^)
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>>185772503
Effective at some ranges
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>>185772503
actually not effective at any range
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Funny crab
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>>185773551
Piloted by a sentient gun
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>>185772571
I'm guessing that was you in the Loyalty Atlas since you won't post names.
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>>185773715
How'd you guess?
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>>185771410

The ROF is canon, though. Battletech's various rulesets toss out more and more in the name of simplicity and speed as you scale more broadly.

Solaris is superdetailed for 1v1ing. TT is less detailed so you can run a 4v4 easily, or a 12v12 as a big undertaking. At the next step up, weapons are are just glommed into S/M/L as a single attack roll and most of the fancy targeting calculations/modifers go out the window so you can run things like 36v36.

It doesn't change the validity of the details smaller scale rules have, any more than the larger scale ones omitting those details means they don't exist.
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>>185772503

Is it bad to note that KGC actually has LRM specific quirks?

It's still shit, though
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https://mwomercs.com/news/2017/08/1873-patch-notes-14130-15aug2017

https://mwomercs.com/news/2017/08/1873-patch-notes-14130-15aug2017

https://mwomercs.com/news/2017/08/1873-patch-notes-14130-15aug2017
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>>185776952
>β€’ HBR-A, HBR-B, and HBR-F Left Torso OmniPods have received a series of new offensive Quirks.
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>>185776952
>β€’ Emerald Taiga (F4): Fixed an issue where one of the two turrets in this sector would not fire on enemy forces. We have also removed the second turret.

So you removed a turret?
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>>185776952
>β€’ Uziel: Fixed a hole in the hips.
>>β€’ Uziel: Fixed a hole in the hips.
>>>β€’ Uziel: Fixed a hole in the hips.
>>>>β€’ Uziel: Fixed a hole in the hips.
>>>β€’ Uziel: Fixed a hole in the hips.
>>β€’ Uziel: Fixed a hole in the hips.
>β€’ Uziel: Fixed a hole in the hips.
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nutech raven, complete with LFE
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>>185776952
WTF IS THAT 2E TORSO ON HBR I'VE WAITED FOR SO LONG???

FUCK YOU PIG
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>>185776952
β€’ River City: The bridge has been raised slightly to better accommodate the heights of the Annihilator, Atlas, Executioner, and Grasshopper.

lol
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>>185777604
you are also getting a c-bill 2E right torso learn to read
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>>185776952
I see they finally gave SOME reason to use a CT other than D on the gargoyle now
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>>185777797
NIGGER I'M TALKING ABOUT THAT RETARDED GAP BETWEEN THE BOXES THAT EXISTS THERE SOLELY TO PISS PEOPLE OFF

I EVEN DREW AN ARROW POINTING AT IT YOU DUMB COCKSUCKER
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>>185778331
calm down there's a CBILL variant with the release of the hero mechs that come with a 2E right torso
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>>185776952
Why are they getting rid of the 'Shark Week' text from the decal? I'm never playing this game again.
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>>185776952

>Fixed an issue where the Enhanced UAC/RAC nodes were not actually increasing the dissipation rate of the RAC jam bar.

Funwhacker gets a surprise boost?
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>>185778859

Probably didn't realize it was copywrited, got a C&D from Discovery.
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>>185776952
>VoIP: Fixed an issue where the player identification popup wouldn't appear when the HUD wasn't visible and the player was speaking, such as during the startup or DropShip sequences.

mmmm whatcha saaaaay, mmmmmm that you only meant well, well of course you did
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>>185780304
rip
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>>185776952
>β€’ Fixed an issue where players could be dropped out of bounds.
>β€’ Fixed an issue where players could get stuck at the re-Drop screen with the drop timer resetting after reaching 0.
HOW DOES IT TAKE THESE RETARDS OVER A FUCKING YEAR TO FIX WELL KNOWN UNAVOIDABLE GAMEBREAKING BUGS

JESUS DICK
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>No mention of the gigantic missing terrain vertex on lurm peaks

Not even the devs play that shit map
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>>185781885
What? Images? I'm not sure what you're talking about.
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I've been trying to find good builds with the new clan tech, and of everything I've tried so far, this one surprisingly seems to be the best.

It does run a little hot, but the playstyle meshes really well with the MDD. Hit hard with an alpha, then back off and sling ATM's while cooling down or switch to chain firing the HLLs. Stick to the second line and if you start drawing fire, launch a volley of ATM's and back off.

Been getting much better, more consistent results with this than any other MDD build I've tried. Tried a similar setup on the TBR and just wasn't feeling it.

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=212&l=e14390c3db62ba626723c96312d04fee585fafc4

Anyone else have any favorite new clamtech builds?
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>>185780304
Well shit I guess I can't antagonize people anymore.
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How would you guys like a Full on Urban Map with tall ass Skyscrapers?
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>>185782138
>What kind of slope do you want
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>>185777560

It's annoying as fuck, but I'd rather have an ERML on there instead of the AMS.

>BANG BANG BANG
>It's a fucking RAC2raven shooting my face with explosions
>turn around, lock on red box and blow retard over because he decided to sit at ATM sweet range instead of in my face where no missiles happen

Fucking. Annoying.
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>>185782671

Mad Dogs are basically oversized mediums, and that looks like one.
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>>185780304
Really the only point worth of attention. No more Mongolian throat singing and assorted screaming at the beginning to raise morale.
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>>185778468
>reading comprehension
You're probably being intentionally obtuse, but I'll say it plainly in case you aren't; his point was not the availability of the right torso, it was how low the second laser is compared to the first, and how dumb it looks.
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Don't stop
Believing
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Saw they added the Uziel, thought about getting it. It's shit, isn't it? There's no hope or relief ever, is there?
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>>185786815

It's got some issues.

Just wait until it's available for C-Bills man. By then it might still be mediocre, but it's little issues will be fixed and you won't be falling for the electric jew.

Every time you buy a mech when it's cash only or MC only, you're giving PGI a reason to keep doing the same shit.
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>>185785675
Very nice. What kind of build you using?
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>>185788396
3 medicine, 1 lpl, 2 lmg
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Good Hellbringer build using nutech?
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>>185789187
mix 2 heavy larges with er meds and lmgs
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>>185789187
2hll + 4er meds or 2hll + 2hmed + 1 or 2 med pulse
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>>185789767
>>185789984
Thanks, got one gifted to me and I've been thinking about different builds. Been running a AC20, 3 MPL with 1 armor in each arm and it's fun but I needed people with experience to give me a better way.
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https://pastebin.com/xkk9eE3k
to haruko with love from kong
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>>185790870
>AC20, 3 MPL
Ew, you can run uac 20 and 4 er meds with 6 tons of ammo instead.
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Sup guys.

I'm trying to get two different, fairly balanced drop decks put together for clans. I need to buy a few more clams and then I can move on the the IS meta.

I've currently got...

>WHK (85t)
>TBR (75t)
>EBJ (65t)
>MDD (60t)
>SHC (45t)
>VPR (40t)

Help me choose 2-3 mechs from this list to round out my clan collection.

>LBK (65t)
>SCR (55t)
>NVA (50t)
>KFX (30t)
>MLX (25t)
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>>185795680
I'll vouch for the Stormcrow. They're fairly fast, and you can build them for all sorts of styles. I run mine with an ATM9, 2x SRM6s, and 4 ERML, and it is quite flexible in combat while having quite a punch too.
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>>185796743
effective at all ranges
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>>185791193
I like dashings fanfic more. Anyone have a link to it?
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Highlander
Zeus
Battlemaster
Awesome

What's the top pick boys?

What's the second pick?
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>>185795680
Huntsman > Linebacker > Stormcrow > Nova > Kitfox > Myst lynx./
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>typical MWO player after you kill them
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>>185799120
Battlemaster > Zeus = Awesome > Highlander
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>trying to teach someone who doesn't play video games how to play MWO
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>have to carry greg's gf
>have to carry Atlas who decided to cap all game and do 0 damage

hmmmmmmm
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>>185801154
Can't greg come up with anything better to do with his gf than playing fukken mwo
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>>185801496
>AGAIN
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>>185801496
was gonna watch a movie with her but I felt like playing robots
Β―\_(ツ)_/Β―
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>>185803789
this fukkin guy
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Haven't played since this new skill tree shit was added. Can I sell my unfinished old extra mechs that I only bought to get mastery upgrades done?
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>>185807717
How do you know they're not new meta?
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>>185808189
>Awesomes
>meta
Not gonna lie though, the metamechs website was my only compass for this stuff and I think it's dead now? So I am kind of lost.
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soon people will understand that mlx>ach
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>tfw you're playing Escort and your team tunnel visions on the VIP (in an uncoordinated effort) once they find it and do nothing to stop the enemy team from ripping them to shreds
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>>185783575
Yes please. Anything to break the monotonous cycle of HPG, River, frozen and memelands
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where is KONG comiket meetup????????
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>>185783575
500% yes. An actual urban map would be fucking amazing, but I know that Lurm-players would be crying constantly because of it
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Alright /gerg/
Favorite Heavy Mech?

I'll start...Warhammer 6R
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>>185825998
cute-apult
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>>185825998
Marauder
If only PGI added more into the game so it being a command mech actually mattered
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Faction play should only allow stock mech loadouts
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>>185826537
>t. clanner
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>>185826537
agreed
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>>185826765
I honestly have no idea how that'd balance out, I just hate the mechlab in multiplayer MW games. It's fine solo, but pvp always turns into boating and optimal hitboxes etc. It'd be so much cooler if you had an idea of what you were getting into when you saw a specific mech, and mixed-range combat was more or less forced by it instead of hillhumping snipers and short high-heat high-DPS brawls.

We'll never get it removed from regular play, but they could call it a realism factor for faction play and use it to make it meaningfully different from regular TDM.
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>>185828262
>I honestly have no idea how that'd balance out
It wouldn't. 75% of IS mechs would suddenly have three weapons, half armor, a standard engine, and single heatsinks. It's a bad idea and you're stupid for thinking it should be implemented. PGI would have to rebalance the entire game around stock-mode which is fucking retarded and well beyond their capacity as game developers.
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>>185828631
>fewer variables
>harder to balance
All they'd have to rebalance is drop deck costs. Weight is a stupid measure anyway.
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>That feel when complimented on your clown fish catapult
Feels good man, I was told it's pretty
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>>185829750
You're looking at this the wrong way, players get four mechs, and it's 12v12. That won't ever change. Unless you give the clans points to pick three lights and a heavy and the IS four assaults it won't be balanced with stock mechs.
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>>185830138
nigga stole my pattern
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>>185830329
Oh did I now, cause I ain't seen any other clownfishes besides me
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>>185830619
you must be tier 5 then
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>new tech retro fits
>it's only for the new clan hero mechs
>the only new weapons clan got that requires new geometry was ATMs, which is just LRMs that have less tubes

wow
meanwhile 90% of IS mechs still show PPCs as lasers and some simply have invisible weapons
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>>185830810
Close, tier 4
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>75 ton Night Gyr acceleration with a 300 engine after mobility tree
>11.93 KPH/s

>75 ton Marauder acceleration with a 300 engine after mobility tree
>27.22 KPH/s
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>>185832231
Did the Night Gyr not have assault class mobility?
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now where might my kills be?
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So i like the look of the CTF and im bored of owning a Urbie i never use

Is the mech well received or does i t have glaring problem?
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>>185834626
it's a solid mech nowdays
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What's your favorite light mech to backstab with?
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what I'd like to know is how do these people even manage to install the game if they are too dumb to press buttons
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>My face when people recognize where my name is from
Feels good to meet other armored core fans in this game
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>queuing for NA servers
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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>185834626
Wide like a barn with obvious, large hitboxes and low slung gorilla arms. But it's armour qwerked out the ass and can shield well.
Best one is the 3D unless you wanna fork out shekels for an Elmo, which you shouldn't.
I still have my 3D from back in the poptarting days before clams and my build for it right now is uac20 + uac10.
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>>185840282
Forgot pic.
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>>185840282
>Best one is the 3D
1X
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>>185840614
>1X
lol'd
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>>185841121
20% ballistic cooldown and 10% energy cooldown nigga, brawl DPS is nuts
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>>185841392
The 1X is shoehorned into one or two builds like (u)ac20 + mls, with its weapons spread all around forcing you to expose everything and have bad convergance. Also no jumpjets for the possibility of poptarting.
Even with all the qwerks, CTFs arent the best and 1X sucks. 1X is just a worse MAD.
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>>185841883
You poor thing
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>>185842348
Talk to the mirror.
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>>185841883
>shoehorned into strong brawling builds
oh no
>weapons spread all around
just like every single brawler
>bad convergence
for what? your arm lasers?
>no jumpjets
this isn't 2013, cataphracts don't poptart
>CTFs arent the best
who said anything of that sort?
>1X sucks
I don't think you've ever even played it
>just a worse MAD
yet it will beat every MAD in a brawl easily

stop posting
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>>185842798
Did I hurt your shitmech feels?

>strong brawling builds
Like ur ac20 snub pepsi I presume? Oh, the pinnacle of brawling, mhmm yes.
>bad convergence for what? your arm lasers?
Yes, enjoy clipping walls and allies with those or not using them at all.
>weapons spread all around just like every single brawler
lol'd again.
>this isn't 2013, cataphracts don't poptart
If you think having jumpjets is no advantage then you're worse than I tought
>yet it will beat every MAD in a brawl easily
In a vacuum.

Get the fuck out.
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>>185843429
ac20 and snubs, that's the best you can come up with?
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>>185843610
I mean the best you can come up with is to claim the 1X is the best CTF. Not exactly a high level of competition here.
Also if ac20 snub is not the build you're talking about then you're even worse than presumed.
But go ahead, enlighten me with your shitbuild.
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>>185843889
ac20 and snubs really is the best you can come up with and now you're acting smug about it, holy shit you are bad
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>Commando with 240 + all mobility perks

Holy FUK I am fast. I do no damage though.
I really should've invested in a locust fuck I'm dumb.
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>They're not playing an Orion IIC for all their brawling needs

It's like you don't even want Atlas firepower on a smaller, faster mech with still great armor.
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>>185844168
I don't hate my Orion but I'm struggling to do well inside it
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>>185844168
but it has bad convergence and no jump jets so it's actually a trash shitmech :^)
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>>185844380
>literally a fat Griffin with an LBX20 attached
>shitmech
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Despite the slow, I kinda like the Awesome 8Q and the fact that it can effectively wield 2 heavy PPCs, even when coupled with 2 LPLs due to all the energy quirks.
But goddamn I can't get into PPCs at all, which is weird since I enjoy most other non guided projectile weapons.
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>>185844090
They're basically the same mech, except the commando can more effectively use srms and the locust--if using pirate's bane--can do a more effective 4 medicine by using lmgs.
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>drop 2 strikes on 4 assaults, full hits both times
>look at my damage guys I'm so good at this game :DDD
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What is stopping Locusts from running 160kph with a PPC and being unstoppable killers?
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>>185844612
I don't do the whole missile thing because I'm not that good yet.
I just started 3 days ago.
I literally sanic speed straight through their front line and run around their feet shooting weak lasers like a retard.
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>>185844712
a single PPC will stop you from being an unstoppable killer
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>>185844712
Sub par heat dissipation capability. The only real problem with the locust.
PPCs will always too hot for them.
You're better off using a single lpl or something.
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>>185843996
kek
I'm in top 100 in matchscrore.
Get fucked.
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>>185844910
yes sweetie, yes you are
>>
>tfw megahound is unironically the best light in the game now
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>>185845069
I indeed am.
You can think what you want, I won't start namefaging just to prove a point.
Had a gud laff, tho.
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>>185845431
watch out tough guy over here
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I'm new what are the things I can do to not let my team down
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>>185845510
>gets told
>didn't even post the build
>can't, because it will validate previously mentioned criticisms
>starts to meme
Amuse me more.
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>>185845683
dont stand behind your teammates
deal more than 11 damage
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>>185845683
Start out by collecting the funds for a kit fox type C and then just stay in the general vicinity of the big guys.
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What mech would you guys recommend using RAC's on?
Right now the mechs that I have that can use them are
Uziel
Catapult
Marauder
Annihilator
But none of these seem like good mechs to use RACs on
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>>185847587
Bushwacker X2
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>no mention of quirks for uziel
>no mention of making the uziel smaller
pgi please
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>>185848378
Why would such a famous poster child Mech need quirks? lol
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>>185850070
What, one LRM10 and one PPC is a bad loadout?
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>>185850070
Clearly he carried that game hard
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>>185850159
Two whole ppcs actually
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is supernova the best clan assault now?
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>>185853658
Na, that'd be the mark 2
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>>185853801
ok but what about not counting p2w
>>
wew, i had a dream about a kek battle
>our battle zone was out at sea
>most if not all out assaults took a drink only medium mechs ould stay on board and lighter mechs with jjs could do anything
>after which our proto suits allowed us to zoom through the water and board the enemy vessels
>had grappling hook for capsizing ships, stealth armour to avoid enemy detection
>i used my grapple to turn over a ship into the water while making my way to the enemy power core ship that prevented detection from space or something
> enemy players everywhere making round to protect their shit
dream gets hazy after that(shit gets weird)
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>>185847587
Catapult
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>using enhanced zoom
Why do people voluntarily gimp themselves
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>>185853658
Scorch, and the Madcat Mk2
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>>185856779
both p2w
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boiler needs 2E in the CT to be honest
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>>185856685
Many reasons:
>monitor is literally across the room
>playing in windowed mode
>too much of a spaz to get the crosshairs on a big robot so need them shown even bigger
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>>185847587
MAD-3R with 2x RAC5 and a STD engine
Make sure you go survival to take advantage of the massive quirks
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>>185857449
Why do you voluntarily gimp yourself?
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>>185857449
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>>185857563
I don't
I've asked other people who do

Trying to convince them otherwise brings the same retort:
It's my game and I play it however I want
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>>185856838
Madcat will be released next year so not P2W. Scorch is more P2W though.
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>>185857659
It is just like a bigman premade (6+) all rush the VIP or cap the enemy base
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3 more days before I can even look at my clan mechs again
Other than cute fox
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>>185856838
>He thinks mad cat 2 is actually a good mech
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>>185858487
But it is good, Twin LB 20, with 4 SRM 6s All packed tightly.
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>>185858458
Why can't you look at them now?
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>>185858487
Yes
Yes I do
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>>185858487
( - __ - )
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>>185858598
Because I want my hardpoints
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>>185858542
>he doesn't take MechLab into consideration
>MechLab is 90% of the game
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>>185858636
>>185858691
It's so easy to spot limp wristed faggots in this thread :D
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>>185858870
>>
LOYALTY GIBS WHEN
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>>185858764
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=581&l=19265c2a31d0a05c9541de73f74991004031e002
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>>185859570
NOW!!!

WARHAMMER6R(L)
MARAUDER-IIC(L)
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>>185859692
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>>185859657
>not using artemis
u w0t m8
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I don't know who's baiting who anymore
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>>185859968
Have to drop down to 4s if you want more than 1 ton of ammo.
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>>185850070
That dumb cunt lost my team a match last week too. It's unfortunate to see he still hasn't learned a thing.
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What do you guys think? http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=401&l=f3c212dd8666446060a1b7ef3c3398f0aa088b02
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>>185862320
kys
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>>185862320
I concur with the other guy
kys
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>>185862320
>18 head armor
>on a light
>when you still have 0.36t and a crit slot free
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>It's an lrm boat assault episode
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In lore, do doods ever assplode their reactors for maximum honorabru
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>>185865897
No cause that would be dishonorable.
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kong drops join ok
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>>185867252
Not now Kakos.
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>clans get added and IS gets its ass kicked
>IS gets quirks to compensate
>IS refuses to use their mega quirked monster mechs and still gets their asses kicked
>clans get nerfed to hell because of IS incompetence
>LRM Atlas Davion finally can win
>clans get quirks to compensate
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>>185865897
Yes, it happens in several of the books
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>>185870051
>tfw you'll never red smoke the enemy assaults and then kys with a magnificent kamikaze engine explosion.
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Why is it always King Crab players?
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>>185871426
>haruko likes king crab
>is autistic
>greg likes king crab
>is autistic

there seems to be a pattern
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>>185871426
dat tactical tag
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gg clothes
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>>185853658
Yes, and has been for some time.
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>>185871930
>greg likes King Crab
Since when? I don't think I've ever seen him play one. He likes the Atlas and Zeus as assaults go.
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>that hand box
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>>185876716
That 'tism trigger gap between the lasers
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>>185876716
WHY IS THE THERE A GAP BETWEEN THE ENERGY HARDPOINTS REEEEEEEEEE WHAT THE FUCK CKCKKCKKC
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>>185876938
The best part is how it makes it not symmetrical.
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>>185876871
>>185876938

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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6 Heavy Smalls or 6 Mediums on the new myst lynx?
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>>185877169
>6 clan mediums in a light
just how much do you want to kill yourself?
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>>185877321
I'm pretty Sadistic.
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>>185877159
>>185876716
just the kind of quality you can expect from PGI
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>>185877169
Way too hot
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>implying the loyalty clan reward isn't going to be a night gyr
:^)
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>>185879295
and a timber wolf for top tier reward

:^)))
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Timber Wolf isn't even that good, no quirks and no special hardpoint setups, not even ECM like Hellbringer. If the only thing you do is bring a 375XL instead of a 360XL then I'm not interested
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>>185877169
Heavy Smalls are the only way to go between those two.
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that's what the meme is about you dip
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>>185879885
you run a ppc srm4 w/ jj on the S though its pretty fun imo
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>>185880383
shit mobility ruins the fun
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>>185880383
why would you ever mix ppcs with srms
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>>185880484
it's a real thing, only on the mad cat though, and not so much anymore because lmao who plays a mad cat after they chopped off its legs
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>>185880706
>it's a real thing

What the fuck does this even mean? That's a shit build and you're retarded.
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>>185881216
Myah, i like it.
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>>185880706
I'm pretty sure the old build was SPLs, SRMs and optional Flamers
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>>185881216
Just because you don't know the dank meme builds of old doesn't mean it's bad.
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>>185881725
I know dank meme builds. The -S with PPCs and SRMs was not one of them.

If you want to run SRMs and PPCs on a TBR, the -D was always and still is the best choice for it because of set of 8 quirks and, when it first came out, energy heat gen quirk in the left arm.

However it has never been a good build. The TBR Brawler was 4~6SPL with 4ASRM6.
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>>185881954
Do you think I'm suggesting the PPC SRM build was the go-to brawler?
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>>185882072
No. That's why I told you what was/is the best way to do PPCs and SRMs on it, too.
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>>185882207
I'm just saying PPC + SRM has always been a viable build on the Mad Cat, that's it.
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0w0
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Splatsman, or Energy man?
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*cores u*

*notices ur snub ppc*
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>>185887430
kys man
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>>185887430
just kys man
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>>185887449
is, is that a micro laser in your crotch mount?
>laughing_liao_warriors.png
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I feel bad if I don't have ams on my lights these days, just so I can down missiles for my dudes and me.
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>>185871930

Haruko is always trying to share her crabs with the world.
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>tfw you ruin the day of both a narc raven and lrm boat SNV in one go with your cute fox
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Is the Kek Fox worth it? I kinda want it for triple AMS trolling, and partially because I like the other Clan lights
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>>185893970
Cutefox is indeed worth it.
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>>185893970
If you want to boat AMS then it's the best mech in the game for it.

Not a bad mech either.
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>>185894243
Nova's better.
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>>185895809
Nova is slower.
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>>185895809
I'm saying if you specifically want to run 3 AMS, kit fox is the best for it.
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>>185896276
I'm saying the Nova's better at 3AMS though.

>>185896265
So? What does that have to do with anything?
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drops happening
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>>185896628
Not really, triple AMS is quite a lot of wasted tonnage on a Nova.
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>>185896708
we already have no tonnage left
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>>185896885
Not really though. Still plenty of room to carry 12 small lasers, and they aren't all on one arm.
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r8 my b8
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>>185903150
Drop the meds to Reg meds and you'll be fine.
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>>185893970

You can also do it with Novas as well. But Cutefox a cutie. And the most useful "useless" Clan light ever made because of it's utility belt arm.

And yes, it's worth it to mount one laser AMS with the standard ones for days like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IluTuPfErdw
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>>185903150
>>185906786
>using ERmeds over Hmeds on that build
You do know ERmeds run hotter for less DPS, right? They're only good for the extra range, but you don't need that range when your main weapons are ATMs.

That being said, I know the build is bait but you could probably make it work decently well if you dropped the dumb shit like the TAG, CAP, and TCOMP-III in exchange for more ammo/heatsinks.
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>>185903150

Too much trash equipment. 4xHML + 2 ATM 12 + 5t ammo, light probe, and 4 more HS is straightforward.
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>>185876938
>>185877159
the same reason why the right nova arm is fucked up
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If I buy a hero mech through the gift store, will I get a mechbay with it?
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> 1st Quickplay yields my team 1 LRM Boat Marauder IIC and Warhawk
>2nd Quickplay yields my team a King Crab chasing a raven and shooting at it with an Ac/20 from 700
>3rd Quickplay has my team split up all over the game and slowly dying to a deathball.
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>>185927437
Yes
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>>185871930
>Only other old klord that loved Krabs
>Nobody talks shit because I actually tore asses with my brawler crab instead of using dakka bullshit or disgusting doulgoose like the fucking princess
It helps that people hardly remember me..
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>>185871930
>>greg likes king crab
????
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>2K17
>Lrms still lock onto ecm stupidly quick
>Sitting behind cover with ecm with no one looking at you still gives the enemy a 10 second lock
>The Pig and """"competitive players""" thinks this is fine
Really makes you think.
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>>185928808
>old klord

???

I mean I like the non kingcrabs to run MPL and LPL
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>>185928808
but everybody knows and remembers you shoebox

50t crab >>> king crab
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>>185928808
Go to bed, Jomacdo.
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>>185930680
shit greg I see you critfailed your Kong Lore skill check
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>>185931963
fugg

how's life my main man
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Meanwhile, in Mutant Epoch...
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give me tips on brawling
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http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=509&l=1683d858f83a97c6e894b57cd5accb65e261dccc
I like heavies.
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>>185937179
Use the original you fag.
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>Buy another shitty hero on complete impulse with delusions of some silly build
>It works and is fun
>Again
Unf
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>>185938264
but it's not a shitty mech
just more shitty now that it can't do dual goose pepsi
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>>185938962
>implying I even pay any attention to how well a mech can do goose shit
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=499&l=08a3f811b1e8996cceb08f2f3cb551c06c7d9bd1
Also fuck me are surm6s tight with Artemis and both missile spread nodes
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>>185939554
>clan surms even with artemis
>"tight spread"
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>>185940128
I don't know what goofy shit you've been playing but I can remember like 3-4 different meta's where 24 surms would be a cloud twice this size.
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>>185930328

Do you have ECM skill noded? If not, it's only effective past about 650m or so.
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>>185941214
Compare to IS
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>>185941915
>boot the game back up, find or make and IS robutt with 4ASRM6s right beside each other and give it missile spread quirks if I haven't already then drop into the testing grounds with it
nigguh
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>long lost konger returns
>pretty much the same memeshitting retard as your lowly nu-kongers
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>>185943426
Who? If it's IceGriffon that guy was always a faggot.
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Damn I'm liking my nu tech Hellbringer more and more.
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>>185946328

HLL/ERML edition? Caught on pretty quick since it was one of the early PTS builds pre-update.
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>>185947517
2HLL/3HML/1ERML

73 alpha, 1.3 heat, t-comp, feels gud.
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8 lmg 2 heavy medicine MLX soon
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>>185948113

They don't call it the HLLbringer for nothing, eh?
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>>185951265

*grins wolfishly*
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Given /gerg/'s peverted lust for brawling, I'm surprised more people haven't gotten in the whole heavy laser thing. Longer burn time, but shorter opponent deletion time too.
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>>185957403
>heavy larges
>brawling
lol what
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>>185957403
In a brawl your are vulnerable during a heavy laser cooldown
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>>185957403
>heavy large laser
>very high heat
>long burn time
>if opponent isn't actually retarded and twists damage is spread around
>brawling
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>>185957496
>>185958132
>implying larges
heavy mediums are where it's at
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Is there an updated Tier List for mechs and weapons?

Metamechs seems to be dead now.
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>>185961958
>5 second cooldown
lol
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Need to be spoonfed, please help:
That picture showing the only good setup of SP for 90% of all mechs
Thanatos worth risking feeding the pig?
Hauptmann when?
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>>185963901
There is no "best" setup for any mech, just personal preference. Some people don't like to run any Mobility skills on heavier mechs for example.

This one gets you full health and full speed on every mech for the least amount of points spent. If you run AMS, take AMS Overload instead of Shock Absorbance.

General consensus however is that maxing out the Survival skill tree is never a bad thing.
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>>185957496
>>185958132

>I even mentioned heavy larges for brawling

HMLs are quite OK for brawl-range burns. HLLs are not. HLLs do decently at longer ranges and pack a good weight-to-damage ratio, but are definitely not for brawl.
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>>185965727
Indeed, HLLs are for CT armor melting in a support sense.
Kind of like RACs, but with less suppression and blinding, but also more pinpoint, at least against bigger, slower targets, and less facetimey overall.
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>>185964232

I tend to disagree. Survival is good with quirks to maximize it- that is, those +armor/structure quirks mean Survival produces much better results.

Pumping SP into Survival for an Urbanmech is usually a good return, but probably not something with minimal stuff to boost in the first place. I'm more a fan of Firepower, with 10 points or so into auxiliary for maximum noskill consumables for UAV/Coolshot/redsmokes of choice as almost any chassis is going to get good returns from that investment. Anything with guided missiles (ATM, LRM, probably Streak) is going to want to spend some SP on Sensors as well, and ECM users (and stealth armor by extension) will need to hit the appropriate nodes to keep it from being shit.
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>>185966036
More health is literally never a bad thing. Even on a 50 tonner that has 0 quirks, you get more than 20 CT health to tank with. That's significant.

And besides, with maxed out survival and speed tweak, you are still left with more than enough points to max out whatever you want in firepower and still get consumables.
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>>185966304
It's a matter of economics, namely cost and benefit.
For instance, I don't run speed tweak on gargoyles because the excessive speed is already kind of hard on the gargoyle's deceleration despite being abnormally high for an assault, while also being something that mobility nodes are unable to alleviate to the point where I'd feel like taking speed tweak on it after raising said mobility stats. Instead I opt to increase the tonnage value of it's weaponry and structure--but more on that later--due to it's lack of "hard" tonnage.
Another thing is nodes like torso yaw which are a waste on anything but the less than 90 degree torso twist mechs, lessening the worth of any nodes beyond them.
There's just not much to gain from some nodes overall.
Same thing applies to health. Getting armor nodes on an urbie for instance will always be a good bet because of it's armor quirks, which the nodes can improve exponentially. Being a light, structure on the other hand has less of an effect, to the point where any way of improving it's lackluster heat dissipation would be better than extra structure, for instance.
Furthermore, one should still be cautious of nodes behind trash nodes like shock absorbance and the like, because you're basically getting half the efficiency from the node after it, while also having to pay 2 SP which could be spent elsewhere.
The double skeletal density nodes in the middle and the armor hardening at the bottom would still make for a decent investment, but even then I'd only opt for one of them based on quirks.
The trash shock absorbance nodes are so worthless in fact, that I'd advice everyone to get an AMS just because with the advent of many more missile based weapons and the MANDATORY choice between AMS and shock absorbance nodes, the 1,5 ton investment is generally worth it due to increasing the durability of potatoes as well.
And overall, in the current state of balance without a doubt, the most worthy nodes are red smoke and coolshot.
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>>185967702
You talk about cost but you waste a lot of points on useless shit regardless of what tree you invest in.

Even in consumables, if all you want is better cool shots, you are still going to have to waste one point.
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>>185968249
The point is not that useless nodes are something to be avoided without compromise.
The point is to build a tree so that you're minimizing said nodes while maximizing the tonnage value that you can get from the 91 nodes that you have at your disposal.
And of course there are outliers to what I just said in my post.
A Highlander for instance will always benefit from both armor and structure, due to being an assault with exceptionally high armor quirks. On it, I'd definitely advice taking both the middle structure and bottom armor double nodes.
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>>185968472
I just don't understand where you are wasting so many points that you can't afford to max out armor, structure and speed tweak on every single mech. You must be running maxed out radar deprivation or something.
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>>185968771
On lights for instance the benefit of structure nodes is proportionally so low, due to proportionally low structure over all, that I'd rather go as deep into offence as possible instead.
And no, I don't do radar derp. That'd just be silly.
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>>185968928
On the contrary, every bit of armor and structure helps light mechs because they don't eat alpha strikes, they spread damage and eventually get worn down.
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>>185968771
As for speed tweak, my point about the gargoyle might seem misdirecting, I used it as one of the outliers.
I'd definitely get speedtweak on most other mechs, but the gargoyle is just a good example of where diminishing returns get in the way of that.
It's already got a max speed way beyond what it needs, and even with it's exceptional mobility, the time to come to a full stop, for instance, takes a ridiculously long time, and getting more speed would just hurt that more.
Instead, when delving into the mobility tree, overall it'd say it's better to get more mobility nodes from the side without the torso yaw nodes to synergize with the speed it already has.
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>>185969236
I agree, but the amount of survivability one'd get from structure is so miniscule in the face of other factors that lights can use to stay alive it's just better to delve into other nodes.
When it comes to lights, the thing that keeps one alive is generally piloting skill and game sense instead of nodes anyway.
They're the mechs that a good pilot will definitely get an abnormally high kdr with regardless of other factors.
In general the only thing keeping them back is their sub par heat dissipation, making heat gen nodes and cuckshots for instance doubly as important.
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And just so I don't seem like I'm just talking out of my ass here.
This for instance is the defensive tree I use on my purifier. Which has worked for me quite well, and I'm no expert with lights.
Other nodes go into ways of alleviating it's problems with heat, offence, and mandatory mobility.
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>>185970234
Now with pictures
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>>185950558
Is the New Myst lynx going to be the new Piranha mech?
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>>185970337
And now that I think about it, I could drop quite a few nodes from the right side, get rid of those less useful reinforced casing nodes and just go along the middle.
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>>185970459
It's going to be THE Piranha for now.
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>theorize build
>smurfy that shit
>looks good(?)
>save up dosh
>buy it
>build it
>play it
>hate it
every time
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>>185973506
Show us
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>>185974032
here's one
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=258&l=05f5dfdff6670a823eca93e1170e340cc59f63e1

granted I have no skill points invested yet but those don't make drastic changes
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>>185974240
The build itself is fine but the mech it's on sucks.
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>>185974240
>http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=258&l=05f5dfdff6670a823eca93e1170e340cc59f63e1
I feel you dood.
A word of advice.
mrms are best on masc or otherwise mobile mechs, because they truly shine when used at close range. But can still be effective against bigger mechs at medium range.
Additionally for the zeus, arm mounted mrms tend to spread more due to how wide it is. Kind of like how the rays of the sun affect northern and southern parts of the world compared to the equator.
If you ever get a skokomish I'd definitely recommend this build of mine in the same vein.
Lately I substituted the LPL for a large laser due to skoko having laser duration quirks on it and put the tonnage in the shield arms.
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>>185974936
Yeah but that must be the ugliest mech in the entire game. I have standards.
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>>185975005
Hardly imo
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>>185975148
>empty stub dildo arms
>minimally viable missile cancer
nah man, it's pretty bad
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>>185975323
Suit yourself.
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>>185975474
the arms aren't the worst thing in the world but those lego blocks for missile launchers just clipped into the mechs geometry are the absolute worst, literally the least amount of effort they could put into something like that and I hate that it's everywhere now
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>>185975709
I'm just glad they don't jut out like the missile hardpoints on the Warhammer or BLR desu, and instead the geometry remains the same.
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Should put RL 60 on a Zeus and call it one punch man.
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>>185977742
Ha I get the reference

Epic Lulz
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Aint gonna lie, the Zeus 6t with RL 60 is pretty god like if you want something dead in seconds.
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>>185980463
4E for your main weaponry is pretty lackluster though
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This game is still alive?

Why?
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>>185980590
robots
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Anyone got that picture with the text that goes something like "a mad lust for brawling"?
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>>185980637
Seems like a silly reason
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>>185980530
Meh
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>>185980840
Just changed the build a bit, and went back to my LFE 360, RL 60, 3 LPL
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>>185980840
>77.3
>3 tons unused

you can't be serious
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Would 5 er med + 2 HLL on a stormcrow be too excessive?
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>>185981440
Way too hot
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>>185916713
>Too much trash equipment. 4xHML + 2 ATM 12 + 5t ammo, light probe, and 4 more HS is straightforward.

Where do you get the slots for that 4th dub?
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>/acg/ is dead again
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>>185986454
>/Greg/ is dead again

Back to batchalling filthy freebirths in Path of Elementals
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>no mention in patch notes of fixing the mauler arms and other similar cases
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>People dissin heavy lasers for brawling
>Heavy smalls have 1.08 burn time
>You can stick 6 of them somewhere for just the first tick of spooky heat
>39 damage for fucking 3 tons of weapons
>Heat aint no thing because fuck are you going to have to TRY to find SPACE for all those dubs you can fit
Seriously the only problem with trying to build around heavies is that they're too light for the space they take and what they do, you can use all the hardpoint slots and every other crit for dubs and still have tonnage left over, you basically need to start with a big big engine omni or take a standard tech clam and stick a big engine in yourself. Heavy builds only work when you're fast as fuck too boi.
6HSL 2HLL Redlinebacker is bae.
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>>185994146
>Seriously the only problem with trying to build around heavies is that they're too light for the space they take and what they do, you can use all the hardpoint slots and every other crit for dubs and still have tonnage left over
Which is exactly why you just take medium pulse
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>>185994146
>need to own hero to have 3E RT
reeeee
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Sure is taking them long to show those gargoyle ST energy hardpoints.
I wanna see how high they dared to put them.
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Well, he ain't no BLR, but that's higher than I anticipated.
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>>185983618

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=163&l=bd4d20e9942a84e37cc817e7226bf446e6a6a13c
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>>185996790
Sprudo Kin Wolf getting a nerf right off the bat.
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>>185996790
>those missile textures
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meanwhile in hackmaster....
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What are the most Viable Heavies right now?
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>>185980590
People like it. Shocking, I know. But people do.
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>>185981216
>>185981362

Beagle Active Probe, or a larger Targeting Computer.

Problem solved.
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>>186004873

There's a lot of them out there. Clans get the Huntsman and Hellbringer right off the bat, the Timby is still good, although the Night Gyr isn't as good anymore thanks to the PPC/Gauss ghostheat linkage.

IS has stuff like the Warhammer and Marauder being high on the charts, but there's a lot of perfectly decent options with nutech like Jagermechs that got a new breath of life depending on what kind of weapon systems you're comfiest playing with.
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Well, I was going to buy a Warhawk but I've been looking at the Supernova recently. Opinions?
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>>186006982

It's a good chassis. Depending on the model, you've got laservomit, the nightmare of missile boating with decent backup energy hardpoints, and so on. Because it's not an omni and is set up for almost maximum critspace room, you can tweak it to your satisfaction. It can even get jump jets if desired (but is inefficient at it, since it's using 2T jets as a 90-tonner).
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>>186006553
>huntsman
>heavy

>>186006982
Supernova>>>Warcuck

You can boat a ton of lasers and delete someone with a click of your mouse (tap of your keyboard if you're retarded like one of our players)
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>>186006553
More along the Clan Side cause I have the Night Gyr packs but they just seem to cook themselves now. Even with skill tree perks into operations.
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>>186006982
Only get the Warhawk(prime or C depending on taste in qwerks) if you want to do quad pepsi.
All other warhawk builds can be done better by other mechs.
But the quad pepsi warhawk is strong and master of its range bracket.

SNV-1 is best clam laservomit assault (2x lpl + 6x mpl) and SNV-A is best clam assault for missiles (besides Madcat mkII and scorch which you can't buy with c-bills).
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>>186007472

Sorry, fucking autocorrect changed "Linebacker" to "Huntsman", and I have no idea why.

>>186007884

The Niggyr was best with pepsigoose and it's critstarved between having endo+ferro+jump jets.

I did have shameful fun going with dual ALRM 20+ dual Streak 6 + LPL & MPL, because how the fuck was I gonna waste that much tonnage?

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=446&l=1769d656ddd8334a9b15c317a5aa3bfddcd387f3
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>>185997562
Oh no Lower Arm actuators. Thanks. I rarely remove those.
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When is the next KongKast?
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>>186010081

Yeah. I'm used to having to deal with stuff like Catapults, so the more restricted arm actuators don't bother me much when I'm at a real need for that one or two extra critspaces.
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>>186006553
>the Timby is still good
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Is kind of sad that even Orion 2C is better brawler than Timber Wolf
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>>186011740
Who cares.
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>>186011986

It's still a nimble, laservomit capable 75-tonner that can manage other roles decently to boot.

Yeah, it's still good. It's just been around so long, you can't really teach it any new tricks people don't already know.
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>>186011740
When Greg stops bringing his "gf" to your MWO drops (single-double digits only).
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>>186012170
Because the Orion is built for fucking things up at short range? Next you'll tell me you're surprised the Catapult isn't in the brawling meta either.
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>>186012843
>nimble

it handles like a brick shithouse strapped to a truck. Going fast does not agility make
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>>186012945
The Timber Wolf and white whale both used to be better at it.
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>>186012843
There is nothing nimble about it.

It's a mech easily outclassed by other clam heavies. The only thing it has going for it is versatility in loadouts, but thats just a boon for poorfags.
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>>186012843
>"nimble" after engine nerfs

Yeah that XL 375 in a 75 tonner makes it go medium speeds but that's about it
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>>186013395
Meanwhile the Stormcrow goes 108kph with almost the same armaments
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>>186012843
>tbr
>nimble
Opinions discarded.
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>>186012170

It's roomier, so it can fit big ballistic + SRM stacking that is the defacto brawl layouts. Niggyr has a small enough engine but hardlocked endo+ferro+JJs, so not enough room, especially in the torso. Madcat has a fuckhuge engine, so it's a little weight cramped but can still get away with similar builds.

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=309&l=73281cc8c21727e52cb981353e49312191bd1fc5
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Are there any MWO private servers?
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>>186014706
Nobody has a clone IP of the MWO so there cannot be private servers.
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>>186014706
never heard of one, but now I'm wondering what the point would be.
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>>186015818
Remove escort from rotation for example.
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>>186013835
>SCR
>Almost the same armament as a TBR

Not really. Closer than they could be, but there's still a solid gap in what they can bring tonnage and heat wise.
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>>186017895
You're not wrong but the SRM, Laser Vomit and Wubs builds are so similar that it's really choosing between 10 extra damage vs 25 extra kph
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>>186018272
It's also a choice between being a lethargic piece of shit or squishy as fuck with a crotch cockpit.
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>>186018890
Unrelated, but I feel like the Stormcrow is actually pretty tanky/well-equipped for how fast it is? Compared to the Ice Ferret it's a really good, reasonable trade-off
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Madcat Mk2 looks mightly appealing right now.
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>>186019801
It's hueg and has pronounced side torsos above cockpit and a ct that portrudes and can't be shielded.
Arms can shield side torsos but fall off fast and potentialy carry a large portion of the firepower.
It can sometimes feel tanky when scrubs fail to hit and track things at 100kph, but I feel like it dies the fastest out of the 55 tonners, even considering qwerks.
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Is there a better meme than the 6uac2 mauler?
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>>186023423
8UAC2 Whale
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>>186023423
6UAC5 Annie
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Anyone still playing Mechwarrior 3 or 4 these days? I wouldn't mind going back if I could get them to work again
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>what kind of loadout do you want, senpai
>just fill my crit slots up
>gotcha covered
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>>186026349
>fogbow

The only thing fogged here is this guy's brain
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I made it to Tier 2, does this number even matter?
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>>186027540

No.
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>>186027540
No. You will still get paired with tier5 potatos, in addition to the potatos who played long enough to fill their xp bar to be tier 1.

Enjoy.
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>>186027540
No.
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>>186027540
Hahaha, no
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>>186027734
That's a nice shield arm, will this Mech come out soon?
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>>186025251
I played MW3 a few months ago to show it to my best friend. I love that old game.
I got it running on Windows 7 without any problems. There was a torrent that handles it on pirate bay.
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>>186026349
>roughneck
>light goose
It's like you hate fun.
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>>186031481
light goose is fun, it fires quick, great ammo per ton,
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>>186031608
If the best thing it does is "fire quick" then it's not a good weapon.
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>>186031703
5 Damage for a 1.3 second cool down?
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>>186032102
Make that 8 damage and 3.7 un-skill locked was trying to remember off my head.
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>>186031608

And for three tons more you get twice the damage.

It's basically outgunned by an AC/10, never mind a regular goosewaffle. Or a UAC/10, even.

LG's are only worth anything if you have no heat capacity whatsoever (otherwise, normal AC/10 superior) and can't squeeze anything bigger in without cutting past the bone. That's virtually nothing, and never a Roughneck.
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I wish UAC20s were good. These things are nightmares.
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>>186032589
>he doesn't use RAC LBX or UACLBX
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rotary goose when?
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>>186032871
chance to explode if you jam it
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>>186032729
That sounds like garbage, but I do RAC and wack.
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Shadow Cat is the best 45t Clam Mech in the game.
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>>186033525
Waiting for our resident ice ferret poster
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>trying to figure out what to do for a stealth armor cyclops
>finally settle on something
>realize it's better in every aspect on the CTF-0XP
>and somehow almost identical on armor
Is there any way to make a stealth armor cyclops viable?
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Orion IIC is fun, I like it more than my old Wolf and Jag. Thanks /Greg/
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>>186037714
Onichan IIC is great with the Surival Tree turns into a mini assault
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>>186037809
Yeah, I run all my Mechs with 33 Survival
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>>186037112

Not with any build that involves a standard engine. 90 tonners have hideous power-to-weight ratios with a standard engine of that size, so you'd have to mount something smaller in the torso. LFE 375 gets you full armor with a UAC/10 instead of a 20.

Dropping down to an LFE350 gets you this:

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=438&l=8ded75c99cb19708c174c6e94d58e146edab4eed
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>>186033525
I dunno with the variants they're coming out for the Ice ferret, the Shadow cat may have more mobility, but I think the Ice Ferret can carry more fire power.
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>>186011953
You only need one Lower Arm actuator to get the benefit of both. I didn't use those 2 1/2 ton ammo bins. I used a single ton and then a Lower Arm actuator on the left arm. I do the same thing on my Puma.
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>>186039457

Ooh, good to know. Would do that then.
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Is 6MPL plus 3LMG Linebacker a legit build?
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>>186041126
LMGs meh i'd go with HMGS
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>>186041126

Long as you can handle the heat load. Could also do HLL+4 MPL+3 LMG if you want a little extra reach at times.
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>>186041319
>he fell into the HMG trap
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>>186044078
Sure LMGS have the range, but Heavies offer more Crit Damage.
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>>186044316
Nope. HMG's deal more raw damage but LMG's have higher crit chances.
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>>186038587
>LFE 375 with 4ML and UAC/10
Well that's straight out since it's now ridiculously worse than the 0XP, with no actual benefits.

>LFE 350 with 4ML, UAC/10, and ASRM6
This is better, kinda wanna see if I can shave off some more armor and cram in a ASRM4 in the CT for bring the weapons payload up a bit. Also tempted to swap the UAC/10 for an LBX/10 for the super low heat it has, which might sync well with the SRMs too. Thanks anon, you've definitely given me some ideas to work with here.
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>>186044469
Ah I see, HMGS do more raw damage, and have lower crit damage while LMGS have Higher Crit Damage. They both still crit the same % though.
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>>185704276
>A konger actually breaks 100 damage
When does he get introduced to the A-team?
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http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=403&l=b08a3d2b7bb82c9cd4bb11bb75babf0fd9773f54 H Varient Ebon Jag what do you guys think?
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>>186045667
Would put an LBX20 in the Right Torso instead, HLL in Left arm and Left Torso
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>>186045667
>>186045882
see:
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=403&l=c868e4ee725c81dc0d38934fe0a9bb4ac48ea99d
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>>186045882
>>186046214
I like it, but the only problem is the ears it gives the jaug.
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>>186046568
HLL won't give the ear, LBX sure but it's better than a UAC in the arm.
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>>186046772
Just sucks that even with the Survival tree the ebon stills ucks.
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I know i'm a shit player, but based on the Ebon H Lore build not to shabby
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>>186045491
Gryphon is hilariously bad, and what's better is he's a total asshole about it too. He'll get pissed and won't listen to anyone trying to help him out and not be a completely useless shitter.
>"Gryphon we're all going this way, stop going saddle."
>"Fuck you, I'm doing what I want."
>dies immediately and blames us for fucking off alone
There's a reason he's limited to the solo queue, no one wants to play with him.
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>Escort
>Crimson city
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>>186048427
Don't use lore builds.
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>>186049234
But some Lore builds are fun.
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I frequently do 3 KMDD & 300~800 damage per game without red smoke, when do I get to join Dashing's Daredevils?
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>>186047623
>EBJ
>sucks

How wrong can one person be
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*sounds of potatoes frying in distance*
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>>186051347
Who?
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>>186051652

Not Gryphon.

Still just another solo queue shitter, of course.
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>start escort tormaline
>everyone just decides to tk the vip instead of wasting time and losing later
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>>186051026
it's really wide and telegraphs your build, but otherwise packs a huge amount of ballistic/laser firepower. Shame the Night Gyr does dakka so much better
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>>186044890
So after some fucking around I'm torn between these two builds:
>http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=438&l=d5528d66fb081a2d4aafdfc7c569d3bcd0411068
>http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=438&l=2e931b4892bf5732f2eafff8178cb144b924ec8f

I'd test them myself except I'm saving to get the UAC/20 stealth armor CTF first, so in the meantime, which one would you all recommend?
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>>186054901
Do 365, kill up to one heat sink and one SRM ammo ton for extra UAC10 ammo.
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>>186054901
two SRM6s don't need 4 tons of ammo, 5 tons is enough for 4 SRM6s the weapon combo seems okay although i think ASRMs will do you better
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>>186055137
Yeah, that's definitely better than the 350 build. I guess now it's just a toss-up between the better DPS of the UAC/10 or the super low heat of the LB10X. I kinda wanna have a weapon with low heat for the stealth armor, but since both builds are using the same engine now it won't cost me if I wanna swap the ballistic out, so I guess I can decide that once I buy it.

>>186055308
I'll drop it to 3 tons for sure, possibly 2.5 if I need to cram more ballistic ammo in. I'd go with ASRM, except one of the missile points is CT-mounted so I'd have to drop that to an ASRM4. I'm just not confident that ASRM4+ASRM6 would be better than two SRM6, but if the spread kills me enough even after skilltree spread reduction then I'll definitely try switching it out.
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>>186053625
it even fucks with the enemy team since they get more money if they do dmg to your team
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>>186027734

Liao shen sung hu?
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>howken has 75 players.
>heavy gear has 0 players.
>MAV has -800 players

where my alternate robots at
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what exactly is 'nu tech'
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>>186062217

Civil War update weaponry and equipment. The first real add ons since the Clan intro, thus "new tech".
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>>186058823
wait what, mav has that many? what the fuck happened
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>>186062327

>bombdog man makes a bomb.
>he does not have a dog fursona.

Slightly disappointed.
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where the loyalty mechs at?
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>>186065724
I bet they'll announce them in september to avoid them overlapping with clam heroes release.
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I'm looking to run a MLX machinegun boat once the variant is out. How much ammo should I give it if I max out machine guns?
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>>186058823
I still play Hawken for fun
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>being spacepoor
>i kept muh cbucks for the upcoming IFR
>yesterday was a shitty day and i blew almost everything on HBK-iic-C
>cant even LB40 it because spacepoor
>nobody in CW
How do i even grind nowadays?
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Get carried by good people
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Ancient meme posts
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>>186074962
Thred is pretty ded
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>>186072387
Play constantly, particularly during CW events
If you die early, disconnect and queue again in another Mech instead of spectating
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>>186072387
Play kit fox
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>>186076448
You obviously haven't seen /acg/ recently, fucking dying left and right.
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>>186072387
Join a good unit and let them carry you.
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>AMS missiles destroyed: 700
Suck on it old men
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>>186091230
I always tell people in my unit to start carrying Lams
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>>186093613
>LAMS over AMS
no
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>>186094016
Lams > AMS
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>>186094269
not even close
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Quad PPC Warhawk is better than I expected.
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>>186094269
The heat is not worth it
Especially on IS side since ams + ton of ammo is the same weight and crit space as lams
Besides, it's highly uncommon for an ams with 1 ton of ammo to run out during a match.
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>>186094718
>>186094376
Just turn your lams off when you're in brawling range simple is that. I play mostly FP so I run into LRMS more then ever.
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>>186095418
Or just have normal AMS which will help in a fight by still shooting down incoming LRMs from that one asshole on the edge of the map, or by shooting down any other missiles.

>FP
That makes sense. In quick play, unless it's Polar, it's very uncommon to run out of 1 ton of AMS ammo.
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>>186095418
>play mostly FP

Nice Memez
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>>186095418
The thing is, I'd rather have the AMS on at all times, unless I'm sure the missiles are going to hit cover, since it protects my mates as well.
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Haven't played at all since nutech. Spoonfeed me a good lolcust (any variant including hero), also is the godlike Splatdoge (praise be his name) still viable?
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>>186099061
just kys
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>>186099061
4 medicine 2 lmg
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>>186099797
and no ERs
Those things will roast a locust
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>>186099797
How do you fit 4 meds into, e.g., the PB? I failed and went for 3 + stealth.
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wherez mah funkey boiii whispers at, dawg?
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>>186099061
Splatgoge is still good if you skill it well.
In terms of lolcust
>6x ersl LCT-1E
>5x ml LCT-3M
>4x ml, 2x lmg stealth LCT-PB, but its sorta underwhelming
>LCT-1V is dead
>missile locusts are outclassed by metal baby
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>>186101693
4 medicine 2 lmg PB can be a real menace.
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600damage of that is red smoke
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>>186102272
If only
I deliberately built the tree wrong, as a joke
But jesus, the shit you can get away with in a locust
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>no loyalty gibs
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>>186106076
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>>186103945
You ignore the squirrels at your own peril. I've got a Mist Lynx with 2xSRM6 and 2xERSL. Provided I don't lose my SRM arm early, the 3 tons of ammo gives me a potential for 720 points of shotgunned damage, plus some help from the lasers. Rear CT kills for days.
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>>186106876
The lite lyfe
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>>186095418

Triple AMS mounts do benefit from a single LAMS, since it means you can continue to chunk missiles long after anyone else does.

Otherwise, a double-triple LAMS mount runs so hot you're only really OK using cold guns like Gauss/AC's with it.

Don't be that retard in stealth armor with LAMS active, either.
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>>186106876

You don't ignore squirrels. You just don't chase them across multiple map grids while the rest of their team la-la-la-stomps your abandoned mates in.

ATMs have been so good for fuck-you peeling lights off my team lately. Just wait for them to start orbiting someone and if they aren't bugging out before I reload, there's bits of scout raining down.

LRMs just don't have enough stopping power to manage that alone.
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>ballistic hot dog hero has no ballistic kwirks
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>>186109419
its because clams op, with their extremely op spread damage ballistics
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>>186107941

Fun story time.

There's a Griffin in stealth armor spitting MRMs at my team. Can't get a clean shot with my lasers, can't lock my missiles...but I realize he's got LAMS and it's firing.

So I start chainfiring my missile launchers without lock over his head at what I can see.

pewpewpewpewpewpewpewpewpewpewpewBANG!

>Dumbshit has been killed by Dumbshit

He had override engaged with his armor active and fired off all his MRMs at once, then exploded from heat damage because the LAMS constantly firing kept his temperature pushed over 100%.
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>>186110560
heh
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when
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ded gam?
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>>186114525

MWO is plenty alive, but none of the other games in OP are.
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I bough the black Knight solely for the cool looks and knowing its just an inferior version of the 'Hopper but its befinitely fun firing non stop in a brawl given that the 6 small lasers just raise like 4 heat. Plesently surprisded, key is not to play it like a high alfa poker with large pulse and ER mediums like I've seen around.

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=321&l=560487064af5de5b703f316ad1ffcc9da62fb830
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Man, I want an IS mech with 3 ams
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>>186117537
kinky
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>>186117537

We'd need this.

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Komodo
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>>186118857

>exceptional speed and maneuverability
>45 tons
>86.4kph

Great meme.
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>>186119849
>IS grognard quality
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>>186119849

For something designed to kill battle armor, it was.

For a Battlemech, not nearly. It'd be better engine capped than Vindis and Blackjacks, but worse than Phoenix Hawks.

11E hardpoints on the other hand...
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Are clans ever going to get the HAG weapons?

Will MWO ever get the Bombast Laser?
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>>186122628
MWO 2 probably will.
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>>186122628

HAG's were just past the Civil War tech timeline, at 3068. The Bombast Laser? Depends if they could properly do another charge-type weapon.
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>>186118857
>an IS black hawk
Yes please.
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>>186122628
Clan RACs in another 3 years
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>>186122865

>MWO 2

If such a thing happens they had better fucking allow my mechs from MWO to carry over.

I won't grind for variety again.
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>>186123794
If they did an "MWO2" it would be upgrading the existing game onto the Unreal 4 platform they're using to make Mechwarrior 5 since that's single player only.
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>>186123617

I'd even take the version with one LAZORFIST 5E arm + the single ERLL on the other (which would probably be 2E, plus the TAG hardpoint for a total of 8E), if only because it'd be better quirked and still have the 2 AMS stock + the obligatory bonus one MWO jams on nearly everything. 8E is plenty to work with, though 11E is going places most IS mediums never know.
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>>186123617
But that isnt the Black Hawk-KU
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>>186124234
>>186124260
Regardless, the IS needs a medium mech that can fit a shitload of lasers on it like the nova, and right now really the only mech that can is the Hunchback. Crabs only have six or seven, the pixie has eight, I want a 12 ERSL laser fist medium mech for the inner sphere. I know it won't be as good but I don't care I want it.
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>>186123617

Also capable of triple AMS, speaking of...but we'd need IS Omnis.

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Black_Hawk-KU
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>>186124821
No, please no. No IS omnis, they'd be so bad in MWO.
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>>186124978

I didn't say it'd be good. I just said it was possible. Poor thing would have a locked IS XL engine in it.
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dead game
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>>186132564

Good meme.
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>>186124821
But it only has 2AMS.
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Just bought and made this. http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=425&l=ad58dea0696caf40b569658283cae511b15cfb31 I have the laser nods, speedtweek, 5 in Auxillary, Radar Derp and I fit the rest into jump jets. Think I should of went Operations instead of jets?
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can anyone remind me again why the black knight was nerfed
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>>186135779
evil whitey keeping us down
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>>186134076
Sensors tree is a meme if your mech doesn't have ecm. Lern to take cover from lurm.
Also, never skill jump jets, ever.
Operations are only realy worth it if your mech has at least 20 heatsinks.
So you always go for weapons tree heat gen and double coolshot first, stacking with operations only if you run enough sinks or the build desperately needs it no matter what.

Have this
https://kitlaan.gitlab.io/mwoskill/?p=jsonbin1.5992368865ca45062e6333b8&s=Weapons
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Does anyone know if there are any good PC mech games that are less battletech and more gundam?
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>>186136723
That's mecha then, not mechs.
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>Quad PPC Warhawk

Just got this mech, trying to plan my skill tree out. This is what I have so far.

Where do I put the rest of my points? Armor? Velocity? Mobility?
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https://community.battletechgame.com/forums/threads/9223
>update later this week
>weapon rebalancing
>morale system replaced by something else to prevent snowballing
>AI tweaked to generally be better
>multiplayer Soonβ„’ but backers can choose to opt in early with the caveat to expect lots of bugs and problems
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>>186136723
Look for mecha games, not mech games.
Try the Japanese threads.
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>>186093613
>tell people in my unit to carry LAMS
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>>186049381
When you do 11 damage
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>>186136723
Try /m/, not /vg/.
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>>186138439
Double coolshot is mandatory.
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>>185840107

LOL, now I know this shit is fucked. There is no way that crap is fucking ready.
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>>186138439
Why the fuck would you take the bottom shock absorbance node if you aren't taking the armour ones?

Take more survival and consumables then if you have anything left dump them into firepower tree.
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>>186144343
Its probably a basic demo, maybe 1 mech to play against 2 enemy mechs at most.
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So if Warhawks are so good with Quad PEPSI why cant the Marauder IIC or Kodiak do the same?
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>>186145386
Because the Warhawk gets actually decent quirks.

The SNV is the next best 4ERPPC platform after it.
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>>186134000

PGI always adds an AMS hardpoint, so it'd be capable of triple.
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>>186145929

Quad PPC Warhawk is a god machine.
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>>186144482

It's too early for a demo like that, especially after the puppet show they uploaded and the one at their last con. Last time I saw something done like this it was the halo 2 zanzibar demo or the halo ce puppet show back in the day.
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So, how bad is it to be a total shit on a popular MWO streamer's game?

Cause Bucknasty2.
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>>186156350
>popular MWO streamer's game
So what, they have like 10 people watching them on a good day?
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>>186157141

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pU2GZHYRpww
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>>186158912
>unironically linking that shit here
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>>186158912
Wow, that's really sad. And by sad I mean it's sad that you apparently look up to that guy. Is he a lumberjack?
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Has no one here heard of Critical Rocket?

Just found him and he is great to watch
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>>186159040
>>186159550

Just fun to watch. Not like we see many videos from /gerg/ people, so what else MWO are you gonna watch?

Enlighten me.
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>>186162028
Why do you watch people playing a game instead of playing it? Enlighten me.
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>>186163176

I'm not at home and have free time at work? I find watching other good players educational?
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>>186163272
Why not just play with guys that are better than you and learn while you play? Watching people play games is stupid.
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>>186163656

Again, not popping MWO open at work (even if I was stupid enough to install it on a monitored system). Youtube, on the other hand is no problem at all. When I'm at home, I play and kill shit.
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>>186164270

Stop making excuses that you watch videos of a fucking shitter of whom only 40+ year old men aspire to. A fucking aspie who takes builds people came up with during the great lurm wars or the streakcat depression and calls them his own. A faggot of whom would gladly deep throat pgi and co for pennies or try to drum up attention for a patch that literally just added P2W clans that offered nothing to the game.

To put it bluntly, you're a fucking dipshit and we don't want you hanging around our general.
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>>186165015
>getting this mad someone watches videos of something
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>>186165015
>we
>our
lol
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EBJ with two geese, 4 tonnes of ammo and eight ermicros - any good?
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>>186165015
Who are you?
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I'm looking to get into this whole "Clans" thing. What's a good clan mech for a starter? I'm open to using lights, as their cheapness is nice.
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>>186169072
The nova is nice, you just point and click.
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>>186169617
I'll try that.
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>up six kills in a assault crimson game
>timberwolf on our team keeps typing "fuking noobs!" into chat
>tell him to stop saying that, we are doing fine and we are winning by a wide margin
>"we will see score after game"
>we win
>he did top damage
>types in ";)"
I genuinely don't understand this guy, I don't feel the need to wine at my team unless we are losing, what is the deal?
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>>186173585
I think he might have been saying the enemy team was bad.
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>>186173585
A madcat with top damage is probably using C-LRMs so lol
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kakos where?
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I want to play a Battletech game so bad, but I've allready played most of them multiple times.
I remember booting up MWO in beta and being so bummed I just uninstalled it after a few matches.
Is the game worth a shot now? Also what in the fuck is up with all the mechpacks that value in the hundreds of dollars?
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>>186179116
>Also what in the fuck is up with all the mechpacks that value in the hundreds of dollars?
?
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>>186178364
At work
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>>186181156
mwo cataphract is so ugly
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>>186181623
I think the in-game history was that the Liao factories could only produce Vindicators to completion, and to make their own mech, they had to basically make a Frankenmech out of parts of other machines they could produce partially. It's supposed to be kind of ugly. The original art in the House Liao handbook was silly and ugly.
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>>186181730
I wish it represented that better though, it doesn't look like a mech that's been put together from parts of other mechs. The arms are supposed to be from a Marauder, but they don't look anything like that.
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So, what's the most active online Mech-type PvP game?

Been playing a lot of Titanfall 2 lately and it's kind of got me interested.
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>>186185502
MWO.
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bread

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>>186185860
>>186185860
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>>186185926
kill yourself
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>>186185604
I'll check it out, thanks amigo.

Initially, I went to go check out Hawken again but it seems like that game shit the bed completely.
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>>186185963
kys
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>>186185926
Just let this worthless fucking thread die and someone make a real OP.
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actual new thread:

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>>186188001
>>186188001
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I let teammates die to protect my KDR
>caring about pug potatoes
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>>185704276
bump




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