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>Garrosh, Skins, Mounts, and more; Now LIVE!
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>Garrosh - Warcraft Warrior; Now LIVE!
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/heroes/garrosh/
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20898720/
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>Heroes of the Storm 2.0
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20695700/
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>Welcome to Heroes of the Storm
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>Tier lists are effective guidance tools, but should never be blindly followed
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>Current Weekly Sale
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20944010/
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>Current Patch Notes
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20944073/

>Where can I find fellow players to group up with and discuss the game?
"/join /vg/" in game chat

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i want junkrat in hots and I want him now
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>Quest: win 3 matches
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>>185801834
Same.
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fifth for hanamura returns
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7th for deathwing
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>>185801879
>get this quest
>irl friend in silver gets on and wants to play with me
>go 1-6 with him
Every time
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92th for brightwing a lewd
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>>185801893
>overbab is also a lolfag

ugh
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>>185801367
where 2 download spray images?
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>>185802148
Just the latter. Seems like we have a better chance of getting Junkrat than Dr. Boom is all.
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>>185802204
>Faggs still complaining his kit isn't Garroshy enough and doesn't fit
Good Lord if this is not garrosh moves I don't know what the plebs want. Another boring muh epic assassin instead of the biggest dick with the dickiest moves in game? Now medivh is second most dickery dick.
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>>185802880
its just pandaria babbies complaining
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I love garrosh kit.
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Which is best anub'alisk skin?
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>>185802880
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>>185802880
Really, his abilities would be fine if there was a decent damage build in his talents

also if he had Rupture as an ult
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>>185804172
maybe a talent that reduces or removes his passive and gives his abilities more damage
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>>185804172
>good tank
>good damage

pick one, its like a slider, he is very tanky, reminds me of jo, her dmg is shit but she is hard to kill and he has the throw
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>>185804491
he's not that tanky
and pick one works, >>185804423
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>>185804643
yeah his Q is really underwhelming
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>>185802148
>being a mobacuck
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>being a vidya manchild
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>being an entertainment faglord
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STOP GORGING ME YOU FUCKING FAT SACK OF SHIT
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>being a human
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>being
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>>185805557
The low as fuck cooldwon basically lets him man handle any fight.
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>>185809158
>Implying any Garrosh can ever hit the Q edge
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>>185808138
>Stitches kept gorging me and bringing me within his fort in tl today
>I was anub
???
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>>185809556
>people who play hook characters
>having a brain
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>gold tier shittery
enjoy
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>>185810271
no wonder they lost to frog nazeebo
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>both teams around level 25
>both teams have three dead
>me as johanna and diablo meet each other at a mercenary camp
>wack each other and dump our abilities on each other in the span of 15 seconds
>when our allies respawn both leave with low health
Nice
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>>185810505
whats wrong with frogs?
>t. the naz in that webm
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>>185810715
idk i don't even play naz but i prefer spider build :^)
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>ally azmodan uses demon invasion on enemy core solo like 4 times and watches it instantly die
>ally genji "soaks bot" the entire game
>friendly butcher uses brand like a ranged attack
some players need the gas
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>>185810715
it's just inferior to spiders in most situations
frog build is much harder to get online due to quest stacks and even then only truly shines in defensive zoning and pushing (but even with spider build naz is a killer pusher so the advantage is negligible)
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is it just me or have they not reduced the price of any heroes in a while
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>>185811630
they haven't reduced a hero in ages, they have no reason to with 2.0 either.
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>>185811630
Lucio had a price drop on March 1st
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>>185811693
In fact, they should increase the prices!
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MENGSK WHEN
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>be an asshole for the sake of le bantz xDDDD
>team abandons you for being a cunt
>"wtf my team threw the game"
never change /hotsg/
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help i keep getting troll le /pol/ garrosh players and its ruining my fun
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>>185815006
play as garrosh then
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>>185815115
but then i have to be the cunt and that's also lame
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>>185816706
or you could play him not as a cunt throwing your team into the enemy.
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garrosh has a good kit and is good!
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>Throwing Malth into enemy team.

>Priceless.

>>185818258
I feel Garrosh is really strong if you're winning the team fight, Q is good for catching people trying to escape. Not really so good if you're the ones running, or the enemy has no problem just sitting next to you.

I really only find I can get pulls off early game or in teamfights I'm already winning.
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>>185818580
I've had the opposite experience. Somehow I always manage to salvage fights at like 15% HP and turn it around. The meme of killing one guy with a scoop throw is easy to do early, but late game you have to do some whacky shit to survive and it gets interesting.
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I just wish Garry had something like Rupture as an ult. I'd rather it replace the sort of worthless taunt.
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>>185819020
if they put rupture on garrosh (especially with his already built-in synergy with Q and toss), they would nerf it to casual hots-tank-tier damage to the point where you could get ruptured under an enemy fort and run back to your own fort with no heals
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>>185818842
>Somehow I always manage to salvage fights at like 15% HP and turn it around.

Half the time I'm just getting bursted down 3 seconds into the team fight. Really wish Garrosh had some sort of spell shield.
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I hope Garrosh's winrate goes up soon because I sure as hell do not want to see this guy buffed
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>>185820282
His spellshield is oppressor, wear he hits people and reduces their ability damage.
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>>185820462
medivh
genji
abathur

they may very well just leave him as-is, although I was kind of expecting a shift in power away from his flip
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>>185820462
I don't know how people can be bad with him. He fulfills the same role as Stitches almost. Sometimes he's even better.
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>"LUCIO DID YOU TAKE ANY HEALING TALENTS?"
>"There's not one until level 13"
>"You're building Lucio wrong"
>Continues to blame me for loss

I was going perma amp build v malth, but people who don't play Lucio know that there's only one viable build.
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>play garrosh on boe
>every single time we get punisher i get a free kill on someone who thinks he's safe behind his wall
throwing people out from behind their own gate is so goddamn satisfying
you'd think they'd learn at some point though
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>boe
i mean shrines, fuck
i always fuck up those two maps' names
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>>185820464
Yeah, but by the time you hit them you're dead.

Good luck hitting Li ming in that backline.
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>>185820282
the armor active is anti-burst, and the unstoppable may help as well
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>>185821848
The laser is what will get you, not the missiles or orb.
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T H I C C
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>Only healer again a three healer team keeping a butcher alive
>can't keep them all alive
>team turns on me
>can't call them faggots cause silenced
>all of them say to report me so I stay silenced
I fucking hate that faggots like that roam free while I get the fucking collar put on me.
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>>185821848
I never said it was a -good- spellshield but it's the variation of the talent blizz gave him.
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>>185823063
Holy shit that beard must be hiding multiple chins.
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God damn Garrosh can't tank for shit
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>Assassin player does less damage than Garrosh

HOW
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Garrosh needs innate CC reduction he can't tank because I'm often cced and can't use bloodthirst or armor up and it'd make sense too because he's an orc and orcs in wow get 20% cc duration reduction they could slap it onto indomitable or something the other 2 talents in that tier are already pretty fucking shit
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So if someone is using Malthael then they're probably retarded or don't know how shit he is, right?
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>>185824763
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>>185786147
Tal-Rasha has nothing on Sankekur
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Does Garrosh's Intimidation talent reduce attack speed even if the hero isn't pulled? I know it doesn't specify so you would think it doesn't have to pull, but I ask because for Warbringer the bonus damage is only applied on a pull, but it doesn't clarify that either.
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>>185826104
Two seconds in training mode would clarify it
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>replay files have quadrupled in size since this week's patch came along
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>>185824763
He's still really good and punishes tards, so he will always be good.
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>>185824392
i know that feel
>You did 56,217 damage as Garrosh! You did 56.7% better than similar players
oh
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>>185824226
He can, but you've got to be smart. He can't start eating shit and pokes until he's lower HP, so he NEEDS trickle support to keep him up to eat pokes. In sustain fights he does great.
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>dont feel like playing Zagara without the desert queen skin

An abstract feeling
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>>185827736
>Don't feel like playing Gazlowe for being a filthy scrap goblin
If he had a probius skin I probably would be playing him much more
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>15 wins in a row
i'm ready for the forced 50 to hit
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>>185828642
Gawlowe is the only member of the horde who's actually competent
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>>185828862
Sylvannas
Thrall
Samuro
Rehgar
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>>185829707
They all fucked Ogrimmar while Gazlowe figured out how to make a door work
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>Three minute queue
>Someone picks Jaina into Kerrigan
These are the last throes of this abominable software.
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Lads I'm like 2-7 with Genji after buying him.

I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. I'm not feeding, I'm saving my swift strike only for what seem to be guaranteed kills or for escaping, I'm trying to use my deflect smartly, but I just feel ineffective.

Please help.
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>>185831006
Genji is at the fuggin bottom of tiers. He's fun, but he sucks. You're playing with an arm tied behind your back.
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Why do all the newer heroes have like 0 mana management? Just spam all their shit on cooldown without problems while being better than most old heroes.
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>>185831229
yea and thats why he gets banned in every league
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>>185832235
below high dia/masters I'm not sure he's really worth the ban

>everybody bans him
yeah and do you remember how ming was banned for months
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>>185832643
im in low masters and they still ban him
i dont like him that much but he is really op on bexis tbqh
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>>185832643
li ming was completely busted when she was released
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>>185834008
ye, I mean after they toned her down
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>>185831006
He's the cleaner
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What is Dropship even good for these days? This Morales only ever used it to run away by herself. Is that really it? Or do you use it like some poor man's Falstad jump or something? Is there room to have it in the current game meta? Is it worth drafting Morales for it instead of Stimpack?
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>>185835903
You can't afford a cleaner. You need everyone to commit to winning the actual 5v5. Kill even one and they won't dare enter another fight so you don't need cleaners. Prove me wrong mastertip you can't
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>>185836194
Droppod on their core and rape it as fast as possible

No, not really it shouldn't be picked.
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>>185836386
Was it ever good?
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>>185836194
It's pretty good if your team is coordinated but in soloqueue that doesn't happen.
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>win 3 games quest
>have to play 6 games to get it done
Truly activates your almonds.
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>>185802204
come on anon i posted it often enough by now
go check the previous threads
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>>185836194
Very situational pick.
It's nice on Sky Temple, for example, so you can cap one temple and immediately get your team across the map either to take the other temple or push.

It can also be nice to protect Morales from some things like Stitches hooks but that can be solved with better positioning in the first place.
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Can i get the legendary chests by using the twitch prime trial? I want the loot but i will not fall for their jewery by giving them moni
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>>185841927
And they want me to BUY fucking emoticons to use in chat? Is that a fucking joke? Can they be ven more greedy cunts that this?
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>mfw I got demoted so low it's now almost impossible to climb
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>>185836194
>That tiny jump forward and then ded
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Slutming got ANOTHER new skin and valeera got only a shitty recolor. How is this fair?
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>>185842728
Li Ming is so fucking boring to play too, I hate that she's become 'that character' that never stops getting skins and shit.
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I just want to be able to fuck around in qm or unranked without going up against groups that are too much of shitters to play TL.
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Why is tossing allies into enemy forts so much fun?
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>>185844242
>tossing ally abathur over wall right into enemy
I just cant help my self
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>>185843084
then you're on your way there by losing games. you'll start getting placed with shitters soon
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>tfw your butcher wasn't trash for once
feels good
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I lost all my progress of the season in a single streak
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what's a hero I can win with even if my greymane teammate has 9 deaths by minute 5 ?
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>>185846054
I know the feeling brah. Half my soul died
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>>185847565
Kael Thas. Learn positioning, timing and do sustain damage non stop, noobs will eventually win a TF and enable you to roll your rape machine blood elf down to the enemy core. I've only been able to carry with Greymane/Kael Thas or by backdooring with a specialist but that happened like twice.
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So annoying...
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>>185847565
Sylvannas
Kael'thas
TLV
Nova?
Probius
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>Play Zag
>Win
I guess Diamonds can't handle split pushers
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This comp and we still won, niceee
gonna try zag now, to see if she is less boring that she looked when i cloned her
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>>185848397
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>>185848397
Zag is pretty much just split push cancer. If your team doesn't know how to play around it or is losing the 4v4 she's pretty terrible.
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>>185848525
>teammates dying 15/16 times
son, how deep down in the copper tube are you
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>>185847946
>Probius
How do you care with that guy? I opened him a few days ago and he just feels useless and really, really squishy.
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>>185848854
>hl
not as deep as you are into the pleb tube
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>>185848926
>hl
hl? that's obviously quickmatch. what are you talking about?
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>>185842402
I got demoted to plat 3 at the start of the season, now master, get to it
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>>185850339
noob
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>>185852048
I got demoted from plat to gold 5 and now I only get feeder teams, I started the season in silver one, climbed to plat and now I'm on my way back to silver
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5 minutes into the next match.
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>>185848865
He hits like a tank
Q and W
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>150$ for preseason mount
>only one color

God dayum
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>>185852157
Is this real? How is it possible? Also, what is portrait from?
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>>185853686
Probably. Each hero can get to 100, so 6000 something is the current cap. Portrait is unboxable stylized Tyrael.
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>get to master
>realize I'll need like +20 wins more if I wanna get gm
>lose all motivation to play the game at all

welp
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>>185853857
Do we know of player with highest lvl?
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>>185854604
Probably a Korean.
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lmao get thrown behind turrets xdxdxdxd
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Ive given up on TL silver, its very cancerous, you can have one good game put it in your all and have a satisfying victory, and then the nexr game... then the next game get a guy who declares himself afk and makes it his mission not to be with the team ever (a butcher stating that he will not be joining the team until he has collected his stacks is a good example of this)

enjoying unranked draft a bit more, also TL when I get 5 is a lot more rewarding and to me the ideal way to play it when you can communicate effectively with the other 4, even the losses are more bearable
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>when double sup is literally free wins but the hero league plebs are still stuck in double warrior meta
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>Sylvanas insists on soloing lane
>Dies as soon as waves collide
>Has 8 deaths when everyone else has 2 or 3
>Uses Haunting Wave offensively
>Constantly whines about nobody saving her

Why is it always Sylvanas players? I mean it's bound to happen with specialists because of splitpushing autists but why Sylvanas specifically?
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>>185854549
Master is all that matters for mount. At that point you should play Garrosh and tank yourself to bronze 5
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>lets play one ranked for first win of the day and fuck off somewhere else...
>whole team ignoring coins on blackheart
>lets go boss!
>while you show up on their map
fucking weekends
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>tfw got Garrosh before Nefarian or KT
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>>185854908
>range on that laser

Holy shit

>>185855020

Sylvannas are obnoxius in 99% of casses. Fuck even that 1% that plays her amazing since she is such a shit hero.
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>>185855020
>A shadow dagger that spreads like a sickness
>Black arrows that explode minions
>Banshees yelling as they make their final assault
>Cool song during mind control
It's pretty obvious she was made for edgy tards.
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>tfw got thrown into the enemy team by our angsty 10yo garrosh because he wasn't satisfied by my healing services as malf

i knew it would be like this the second they announced garroshes skillset
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>>185855434
sylv uses to be tons of fun but then they nerfed her to the ground, i used to be able to wipe out minion and merc waves in a second with a single dagged, but now? my wave clear is no faster than a fucking lili
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>>185855725
There is so many ebin trolls doing it that into the fray is bound to be removed.

I do it when I dont like my team mates.
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how do I get out of gold when 90% of the people I am teamed up with always end up feeding ?
I played like 20 matches today and not even one was enjoyable, even when won, because it was always my whole team feeding and me carrying their ass into a by the skin of my teeth win.
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>>185856116
I only do it as survival mechanic.

For example, me and another teammate are running away from the enemy 4 stack, while we both have 20% health.. the enemy gap closers are gaining on us, and as a tank i am more important than some assassin or support faggot, so i grab the teammate and toss him into the enemies offering him as a sacrifice for them to feast on while i get safely away
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>>185856509
You don't, stop playing.
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>>185856638
that's what I thought, I actually hadn't played in a whole month, went back to the game with a lot of positivity and it all went down the shitter by my third game with a feeding greymane
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>>185856792
avoid that game type, join various chatrooms and get some m8s, otherwise stick to unranked or team league or qming with other people you know is still better
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>All the fags constantly whining about MUH RANK
>MUH BRAWNZ
>MUH SILBER
>MUH WHATEVER ELSE
>Actually playing this game seriously and not just fucking around for laughs in qm
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>>185857490
QM is boring and not fun
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>>185858362
May you have fun in hero league, helping blizzard boost their numbers and delaying the shutting down of the game by activision.
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>>185853686
Bot program
They run AI games like 9000 times a day with a script to keep them from going afk. You can get like 1.5million XP per match.

Blizzard is about to announce a ban wave, so RIP botfags.
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>>185859453
Every time I'm in game people openly ask for farming ai. Nothing has happened to their accounts.
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>>185856509
>bungaposter
No one cares. The fact that you say someone is feeding likely means you're a spurglord autist that pings every death and says "gg" after every single one.

We are well aware that you think you belong in a higher rank, but your inability to keep your stupid fucking mouth shut will keep you in the trench forever. Also, you are a contributing factor to every game you lose no exceptions.
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Who is the tankiest tank in the game? is it pitches? i hope it's not johana, because i tried her and she is sooooo booooooring jesus fuck
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>>185855174
>lorefags BTFO again
when will they learn
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>tfw loose every single brawl

I just cant play it anymore.
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>>185859894
>upset after losing a literal joke mode for a free box
laffin @ ur life
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>>185859697
>The fact that you say someone is feeding likely means you're a spurglord autist that pings every death and says "gg" after every single one

Holy projection nigger, I didn't realize people had gotten this desperate to play the LE ONLY CONSTANT IS U game as to act like people feeding just doesn't actually happen, not even them.
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>>185859803
I have bad news for you pal. Also pick the agressive talents lvl 13 and 16 do you actually do damage.
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>Actually just won a defense on the shitty payload brawl
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>>185861315
we won literally 1 meters away from the goal by wiping the enemy but that brawl is a joke solely because of the overtime retarded mechanic, that way the only way you win the game is if you can wipe the entire enemy which is near impossible with no spawn timer
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>>185861440
Yeah we got it with the payload on the brink of that last dojo entrance or whatever because we killed like three and their kael and some other squishie scattered.
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>tfw "morales i u don't heal me first i toss u into enemys"
t-thanks garrosh
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>>185862201
>healslut player
deserved
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this gun be fun
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>>185862356
I wish I got something like that, instead there's been Varians in every match.
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>>185862443
>Enemy gets double Lucio
>You get lili
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>>185862805
yeah that was pretty unfair you having the advantage like that
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>brawl
>someone on my team picks auriel
didn't wanna win anyway
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>it's a dominate all game only to lose one teamfight at the end and lose episode

bonus points for people starting to bitch about hero and talent picks when those same picks lead to success for 99% of the game
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>>185863489
BUGGED COMEBACK MECHANICS
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>sonya on braxis
>kick alarak's ass so hard that I get the fort down at 6
>4-man at bot is feeding so hard we're still a level behind
10/10 gaming experience
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>>185863656
What was their team that alarak was the solo laner?
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>stitches on my team EXCLUSVELY hooks+gorges the enemy falstad
>when he still has dash up
>instead of the jaina
I fucking hate this Stitches "meta".
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>>185863489
>talk to team
>figure out what everyone wants to play, figure out a draft that works around it
>team proceeds to fuck up everything and fail to execute the plan all game
>but around level 13 their insect-brains have figured out how to move as a 4/5 man blob
>meanwhile the enemy team tries to do that too, but in action your comp actually wins
>after 2-3 fights we snowball to victory
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>cursed hollow
>first pick tank
>no one on team picks a solo laner
>last pick artanis doesn't pick amateur opponent
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help, I keep getting lolbabs on my team
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>>185865865
That's because all mobas are the same
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>>185863656
>Alarak
>Solo lane
Explain
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>>185863656
people force the 1/4 split too ahrd
if you lose the 4v4, fucking swap it out or change lanes. People don't get this.
>i won muh lane
nice one bugnaposter
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>>185863656
>See team is dying
>don't go down and help
Fuck off faggit you are a even worse player then they are.
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>>185863656
>Sonya is strong in 1vs1
More news at 12.
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Is it better to farm QM to grind MMR (I win most of those) than do HL? I placed silver 2 and fell back to bronze 1 after bunga team keeps feeding. I almost got to gold several times but never made it. BTW I have 22 heroes lvl 15 and placed diamond with Smurf, I just want to get high rank with this account since I have all heroes and a shitton of cosmetics.
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>>185867408
>bunga team
you are where you belong

>diamond with smurf
not an accomplishment, literally anyone can do with with AI/QM game seeding
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Artanis damage build is f u n
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Who are some single player characters where I don't have to give a shit what my team is doing?
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>>185868487
any if you don't want to win
none if you want to win
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>>185868487
Abathur
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>>185867546
Holy fuck anon you sound like the niggers who pollute my chat in HL. I do not belong with people who can't make a difference between tank and bruiser.
Also I was not boasting just saying I can play diamond and probably higher, and the fact literal noobs can place that it means rank represents nothing because newfaggs get carried in higher ranks and oldfaggs get dragged down in lower.
I sucked ass, yes, but over a year ago. I can play 30+ heroes very well at this point and at least 4 perfectly.
So give me an advice if you have but calling me a noob won't help me and it makes you sound like an angry nigger.
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>>185868736
Heard it all before. People who can climb, do.
If you can't it's your problem.
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>>185811456
I'll agree with that except in one situation: it makes Naz wombo combos way more disgusting since you can just slam two sets of 3-5 1.8x toads into a good wall + ult at max range for free. Also they burn way less mana for good waveclear if you didn't take the regen talent at 4.
Spiders are better in general for poking, ganking, and merc clearing though. The damage maxed-out spiders do against a single target is fucking disgusting. Especially with that half-CD talent at 16, holy shit. I don't think I've ever seen a non-bribe build that cleans giants/firebats so fast.
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>tfw wanna get Garrosh but 15k price still
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>>185821584
>"There's not one until level 13"
you mean 16
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>>185868487
If you don't want to team fight than there is only split pushing or taking camps.
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>>185869440
just buy some gems goy
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>>185868487
Rexxar
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So is the Axolotl leak from yesterday fake or not? They did instantly delete the thread about it on reddit How many days till gamescom?


Axolotl Sat 12 Aug 2017 00:49:45 No.185776864 ViewReport
I'm back with old news but going to clarify some things
Expect this within the next months

Heroes:

Kel'Thuzad:

Frost armor
Frost nova
Chains of cold
Phylactery
Death and decay
Raise dead

Tildon:

Flamethrower
Cool off
Catching fire
Pyromaniac
Wings of fire
Napalm spray
Full o fuel

Junkrat:

Concussion mine
Steel trap
Total mayhem
Riptire
Call hog
Scrap missile

Aidan:

Punish
Berserk
Stone curse
Repair
Dark possession
Gates of terror

Ana:

Healing shot
Paralyzing shot
Biotic grenade
Rifle expert
Painkillers
Nano boost
Med delivery

Alexstrasza:

Soaring
Breath of flame
Sacrifice health
Cleansing fire
Renew life
Dragon form


Skins:

Storm captain Kel'Thuzad
Acolyte Lost Vikings
Frost lich Jaina
Grand apothecary Tildon
Junkenstein Junkrat
Vengeful wraith Tassadar

Mounts:

Death charger
Hovering throne
Blackwatch banshee

Map:

Culling of Stratholme: WC3 theme, think of objective as BoE + Braxis
Icecrown Glacier: WC3 theme again, map with dynamic terrain


Blizzard is going to expand the multiclass role with these heroes
Arthas is getting a model update
Tyrael, Morales and Leoric are getting reworks
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>>185874259
>tildon , junkrat , aidan , ana
who are those?
inb4 shitty alextrasza human form
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>>185874259
He didn't have Axolotl's original tripcode so there's a good chance it is fake
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>>185874492
Hmm i wonder who Tildon is... Dunno maybe look at his abilities you tard? Some googling results


"Fire washes the skin off the bone and the sin off the soul. It cleans away the dirt. And my momma didn't raise herself no dirty boy."

- Franko Tildon(src)

Franko Tildon was a terran. He was a mass murderer before being reformed. As a marine, he was credited as the first "fighting firebat".

If this is real dunno why they didnt choose Gui Montag instead
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>>185874492
More cancerwatch.
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>>185874763
>Hmm i wonder who Tildon is... Dunno maybe look at his abilities you tard? Some googling results
ok , this is google tildon
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>>185874492
At least we will never see Roadhog in the game. We already have stitches
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>playing arta
>have stitches and uther on team
>figure I can go purifier beam
>uther didn't use his stun a single time in the game
just gold things
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I like Val's new skin.
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>>185875828
Which is a pity, I don't even like OW but his design is one of the ones I actually do like.
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I know for a fact I'm going to get another shitty mount in that free legendary box
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>>185876167
what free legendary box?
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>>185876291
It's an Amazon Prime thing
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>>185861440
You just described overwatch.

>>185867408
Keep playing on smurf and ruining games as you descent to silver.
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>>185875973
SI:7 Bloodfang has been around for a while anon
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>>185877909
Ah. Well, she looks good.
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>>185867408
Everybody places Diamond on their "smurf", though.

>>185876167
Same.

yay 400 doritos
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This brawl is easily the worst thing that's ever been in hots, might as well just leave if you're not defending.
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>>185879201
I was on attack thrice, lost only once because my team stayed behind the payload the entire game.
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>Garrosh is a bad chara-. . .
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>>185879201
It gets real good when it makes everyone Tassadar. Hard to pass through infinite walls.
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>>185879383
>vs ai
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>>185879383
show game mode and HL rank
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>>185879201
>Might as well just leave if you're not defending

I've never lost from attacker
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>>185879451
>>185879489
>Garrosh cant win real ga- . . whoa . .
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>shows screenshot with 0 real games in it
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>>185880032
>real game
>quick match

Fuck off to reddit maybe?

I too havent lost a single unranked game on Garrosh. Havent played him in ranked yet. But you are a 100% subhuman faggot who should be murdered
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>>185880032
>quick match
>real game
low quality memes
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https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/6t2w15/some_behavior_from_professional_hots_players_and/

Imagine being such a triggered snowflake that you take take personal offense at getting BTFO in a quickmatch game against professional players and want the game developer to punish these pro players because they didn't beat you fast enough.

Bravo, reddit, bravo.
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actually it is the hetfags who should be murdered
t. /u/
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>>185880032
fix his winrate for us senpai
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>>185880185
>>185880212
>>185880446
alright sweetie go win 10 games as Garrosh in a row ill just be waiting ;3
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>>185880654
>buying garrosh prior to discount
no
>playing quick match
I'd rather play wow arena
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>Fags who actually bother to sit through the shitpile that is ranked in this game

QM is legit better
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>>185880902
imagine being this delusional
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>>185881070
xul every game he's open
maybe not on battlefield
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>>185880950
i really can't. ever since i started HL, and after when UD was added, i literally only play qm to level the new hero to 5. and even then, it takes like 5 days for me because i cant play more than 2 quick matches in a row. its horrible.
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>>185880950
qm is more fun for me because i dont have the expectation (and thus inevitable disappointment) that my teammates will be competent
ranked in a teamwork-focused game that has no voice chat is just retarded
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>>185874259
>Blizzard is going to expand the multiclass role with these heroes
What heroes? The sentence cuts off

>Roadhog being reduced to Junkrat's ulti rather than seperate hero
Reddit would be sooo asspained

I don't have hope, but I'd love for this leak to be 100% true, I like everything listed
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>>185881228
>take a 25-30% chance on your teammates being competent
>or take a 100% on them being not
>ill take number 2 cause i like the hab le fun :d
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>>185881560
He's right though. Anything other than 5v5 team league is dumpster tier so you might as well just have fun.
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>>185881560
unless you are in at least master, the chance of competent teammates in ranked is a lot closer to 1% than 30%
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>>185881560
>Not playing the mode where you know for sure everyone is retarded instead of the one where the enemy team has a chance not to be that also takes way longer to start and usually ends with you playing Uther or Rehgar
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i got this last night too
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>ruined my hopes of having a good season my starting on the first day
>check when the current season will end
>December
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>>185881759
this, a ranked mode in a team based game with no voice is a true meme, its just russian roulette but instead of bullets its retards.
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Don't listen to the hero league shills. Stay away from this game mode and wait for it to die, as the shills play amongst themselves.
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>>185881759
there's no right or wrong in this scenario. it eludes me how he can have fun in a mode where double digit deaths are an average among all players on both sides. a mode where you cant really learn anything because comps dont exist. a mode that forces you to play against mirrored heroes. a mode that up until recently had tanks and healers on one side but not the other. who's retarded here, him or me?
>>185881818
i am at least master, and even if i was not, my asspulled percentage is more realistic than your memetic 1%
>>185881957
your team has a lower chance of being retarded, because you're on it. that's assuming you're not retarded though :^)
also, you don't have to fill. you can even tell the retards what role you prefer, or flat out say `i can't heal/tank`. even if they dont give a shit you can still not fill, just take a look at the comps and you'd be surprised how an unorthodox pick can take the other team by surprise. but that's also assuming you're not retarded and are actually able to read comps and see what can be exploited
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So with my recent dorito windfall i can afford a legendary skin. I'm thinking of Lil' Ragnaros or Desert Queen Zagara.
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>>185882469
>stay away from the most relevant game mode
>dw it'll die
hmm
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>>185879383
>>185880032
It's because he is a new character and:
>Garrosh next to his gate
>Teammates still go towards him and get tossed into the enemy base
This keeps happening, even when I warn them that it's going to happen. they still rush him.
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stop playing quick match
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Do I buy Stukov? I like his design and fuck it, I want to play a support that's not brainless Uther, but is he actually particularly good for the 10k?
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>>185883183
Unranked is just as fun
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>>185881759
Yes, Team League is a real, competitive mode.
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naventic finally disbanded
na btfo
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>>185883405
Why should I bother playing a dead meme game competitively?
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>>185883920
Based Grubby
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>>185884052
More and more teams will be disbanding as there is no competitive future for this game.
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>>185883405
Q: Stabs enemy 23 times in self defense
W: marks enemy building as church and sets it on fire
E: uploads a video to ThuleanPerspective
Trait: This huh... Wow - Instead of dying Varg goes to jail for 14+ years
R1: releases another synth album
R2: makes target enemy play MYFAROG
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>>185884168
if its a dead meme game, why bother playing at all? there are literally a million other games you can play
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>>185884052
finally, they kept shitting the bed over and over again
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>>185884680
Meme games are still good for dumb fun
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>>185884410
There is but only for the top 3 teams the rest get almost no money.
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>>185884824
but it's a dead game if i read your post correctly? why play a dead game?
also
>its not regular fun anymore its dumb fun
you keep moving posts
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>>185884890
lol and dota rejects are using this as a chance to make a quick buck in blizzard's expense.
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>>185885184
Like who?
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>>185883396
you can throw enemies out from behind their own gate too
hilarious for getting free kills when people are lurking behind their wall waiting for your punisher
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>>185884680
because if you play casually and for fun you don't care about whether it's a dead meme
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>>185885135
Already answered that. Never said I had regular fun either, two posts in and you're already imagining things.
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>>185884680
because dude excuses lmao
people have them for like every game

>I could be X if I just played more
>who cares the game is bad/dead
>ye if I wanted to but whatever meta is boring
etc, etc
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>>185885821
but if i play competitively and for fun i also don't care it's a dead game
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>>185885971
it took you zero posts to imagine that the game is meme or dead though. it's just excuses to shitpost here when i tell you stop playing quick match, for your own sake, because i like you.
>>185886014
pretty spot on
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>people arguing about ranked again

Just have fun in ranked while avoiding retards on your team with your 5man, you do have enough friends for a 5man right anons?
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>>185880902
QM is only better as of last patch, i mostly played ranked because i couldn't stand mirror matches
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>>185886779
People play MOBA's competitively for the prestige, bragging rights, and possibly a future in esports, right? Why not do that in a game that people actually care about? Or one that has a fully developed competitive scene?
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>>185886868
If I had enough people to 5 man, I'd play a proper game of the superior DotA2 with them.
I don't, and playing DotA2 with randoms is almost physically painful, so I'm sticking to solo playing HotS, which is way more forgiving, shorter and more fun to play by yourself.

Team league is a failure and only populated by morons for the cheap gibsmedats rewards.
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>>185887670
same actually
for a while i was playing party queue with friends in doto and soloqueue in hots but people have kind of stopped playing together over time
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>>185887443
because
a)i like this game more. it has characters that i have known for a very long time. the matches are short. it doesn't feel like work.
b)i don't care about bragging rights on prestige or esports or other people. i'm at my home, having fun, and why not get that sweet lightning rank while im at it? i don't even have anyone who cares to show it to, nor does it matter, because im not a nigger that seeks approval. i feel nice about it by myself.
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>liking a game with literally 0 story because of characters
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@185888374
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>>185883479
Please respond
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>>185888884
He didn't have Axolotl's tripcode
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>>185883479
they just fucked him up by making his heal invisible to allies, a plan equally as stupid as when they did it to auriel's crown
i wouldn't unlock him at present
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>no one talks during draft
>last pick is nova
>lose
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>push all game split as azmo
>deal insane burst
>my wave ends up pressuring the enemy core
>it dies during team fight
>"lol wtf"
>"hahaha so random"
>"wow didn't know minions could push so well"
;_;
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>>185889595
>get into draft
>somebody starts talking
post red flags
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>>185888884
>Dragon form will be Alex's mount
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>>185890989
I want Alex to be my mount
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>>185891095
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Would human form alexstrasza surpass tyrande?
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>>185882881
take Zagara
Rag needs better skins
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>>185892017
i did end up getting Zagara because i'd be really pissed if i got it in a box but it wasn't a color i liked.
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>>185891938
Without a goddamn doubt. Chrom(he)ie is cute enough as it is.
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>>185836194
>What is Dropship even good for these days?
If you dont have anything worthy of stim why not take dropship. *at worst* it's a stasis effect for yourself mid fight, and at best it can be used to reposition. You can also use it to quickly traverse the map with your whole team essentially adding a big global.

The upgrade to it is also on a crazy level of ridiculousness - when you call it down it heals everyone around the dropship and in it for a bit more than your beam; which really supports the 'use it to reposition and for some 'oh-shit' stuff'. Caduceus is probably still better cause mana sustain, but dropship is really good.

The few times morales has seen pro-play, it's been with dropship so she cant get picked outside of a full stun-chain.
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>>185892168
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>>185866168
Alarak has self sustain and can bully other people out of lane. Which is prettymuch what you look for in a solo laner.
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>>185874259
No tripcode = 99% chance of bamboozle.
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>murky with literally 27 deaths on my team
>enemy has butcher
>butch can two shot our tracer by the end of the match
nice nerf blizz
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>>185893972
>butcher touching tracer
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Alexstrasza is the most used up dragon there is, discounting maybe like Sinestra.
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>>185895439
le sjws lol ebin
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>>185895439
Their current staff doesn't seem to be doing great either
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>>185895439
Why don't you go back to >>>/v/ with your Internet crusade?
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>>185895439
That's good, lots of women and minorities that are great at game dev but have little chance of getting an interview at a big crop, even less at travelling there just for an interview
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>3v5
>our diablo has 26 coins
>he solo rushes 1v5 and tosses them all away
only constant
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Why blizz supp ppl think its legit to be silenced if i write ""Sieg Heil 14/88" at start of every game?
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>>185836194
The important part is that you target it through the minimap or move your fucking camera so it's not a glorified Li-Ming teleport. Also bringing your team to a distant objective or boss to contest it is fucking insane.
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I just want to say I hate how bad Garrosh's self healing is.

10% of missing health is nothing unless you are nearly dead when it could easily just be 5% of max health and be fine.
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>>185897809
It's that way for a reason. If it was better he'd be unkillable, and it stays with his niche of being countered to fat burst.
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>>185897809
it's 20% of missing health
agreed though that it is not very amazing
sometimes you get some funny turnarounds on someone who is diving out of position for a 1%hp garrosh but mostly it's just kind of unimpressive
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>>185897874
>>185898167
What does this have to do with hots?
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>>185897809
The talent that gives it a 10% health HoT improves it quite a bit but I'm pretty sure the shield on Q is better in every aspect unless you suck at hitting it.
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>>185898167
Are any of the things you listed supposed to be bad? I don't understand.
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>>185868487
Azmodan
Zagara
Vikings

I didn't even bother including shit like Murky, Xul, Probe or Gaz where you can be kind of effective if you go full PvE mode if need be. Those three, it's basically their ideal playstyle.
Azmodan doesn't really "have" to be anywhere outside of laser build.
Zagara has zero-cooldown global teleports as long as she can set up Nydus, and her tumors make it really fucking annoying to deal with her since she's running at sonic speed 24/7 if you don't. She's like a hybrid of Broodmother and NP from Dota.
Vikings' job is a soak bot. You exist in three lanes at once while your teammates rape shit. You probably don't want to play him though because you're relying on your teammates to play around him instead of relying on your teammates to be retarded and basically be a walking meatshield/distraction while you wreck buildings, but Vikings does tend to avoid the team. Especially with bribe.
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>>185898840
the straight ones are
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>triple assassin solotank garrosh
>communicate to my team this is bad
>lol w/e it'll be fine
>illidan dives 1v5, literallly like he sits around fucking considering it then hunts varian and dies and types "noob healer"
>lose, everyones flaming each other in chat while acting like they're completely faultless
>minus favored adjustment, fuck you shitter you should've won this game
>minus personal rank adjustment, fuck you shitter you shouldn't even be this high you got carried

ranked sucks so much ass. Part of me is tempted to just be the 4th fucking assassin or some shit when my team wants to go illidan/raynor/jaina
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>>185899162
meant for >>185898663
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>>185898363
Blizzard made hots bro
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>>185897874
>>185898167
>anon can't fathom that people can make bad games
>it must be because they're womyn and not proud white men like me
>being on this deep level of idpol
Just fuck off from /hotsg/ and go back to /pol/ incels or wherever the fuck you came from
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>>185900228
So you're good with having feminists and minorities at blizzard right?
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>>185900825
I don't give a shit because I don't care about identity politics
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>>185900825
Anything as long as they keep Chris Metzen at home.
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Take your thinly veiled /pol/ shit back where it belongs retard.
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>>185901060
Then who'll voice Nefarian when they add him?
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>>185900825
please direct all complaints to >>>/pol/
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Honestly Garrosh's late game feels awful. He needs way too much shit going his way in order to be viable.

He needs a dedicated healer more than any other tank, and this healer needs to be on his ass all the fucking time.
He needs to have actual burst behind him so that if he does manage to catch someone, they will die immediately. If your team doesn't have much burst then the enemy will just collapse and save them.
The enemy team needs to have either short range or very few backliners, because he will literally never catch any mage that isn't way out of position.
The enemy team also has to be mostly comprised of sustained DPS rather than burst, because otherwise you'll die before your armor even kicks in.

Worst of all the enemy team needs to be making mistakes and positioning badly, because he has a damn hard time pulling any key member who isn't playing like a Bronze.
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>>185900825
Yes actually, I'm a hard left SJW and can't wait until they implement gommunism in hots and overwatch so everyone gets lootboxes for free and all white people are banned from video games.
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>>185901857
He flat out just shouldn't have been a tank, should've given that generic moveset to some next nobody and made him a real, fun kit.
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>>185902114
fuck off garroshfag
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>>185901857
>he has a damn hard time pulling any key member who isn't playing like a Bronze
garrosh is for double tank comps
1. any other stun or root is guaranteed setup for his combo
2. if the other warrior doesn't do setup, they can cc people after they get thrown in
3. the second tank is a perfect target to use into the fray on for initiation
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>>185902114
>Garrosh
>Not a nobody
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>>185902016
technically /hots/ is communism
>no items but xp
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>>185902267
Not even some big fan of them, the moveset just both doesn't really fit them and isn't that fun.
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...huh
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>literally, as in actually fucking literally, my internet will only drop during hots ranked. Not during overwatch ranked, not during qm, not during fucking any other activity, but hots ranked

I'm going to kill myself because I deserve nothing good in this life.
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>>185902369
>War Hero
>Warchief
>Went back in time to hang out with cool orcs
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Why do people pick healers and then proceed not to heal?
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>>185906426
i have to keep channeling this ebin arm, bro
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>>185905252
guess you get what you deserve for playing OW
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Should I play my placements during 4AM to avoid kiddie ruiners & potentially be the most energized guy or during the evening, or during the earlier night or in the morning 9AM?
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>>185906967
Man, fuck Blizzard, how can a cartoonish lesbian tomboy be so fucking hot? Am I gay /hotsg/?
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>>185907047
You should probably forget the idea that there's a magical perfect time to queue at so you don't end up blaming your shitty rank on queuing at "the wrong hour".
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Fuck Garrosh's AOE taunt radius is minuscule
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>>185907047
protip this is how it works out in every single game

queue during peak hours: kiddies ruining everything
queue during offpeak hours: foreign kiddies ruining everything

ur welc*m
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>>185902867
So what you're saying is communism has actually been tried and it really does work?
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>>185906967
I only really play it with a friend, I honestly think so many of the design decisions are dumb that I can't not tilt playing it

>>185907363
>am I gay for liking a stick thin girl with short hair
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>>185901060
Metzen is better than Kaplan at least
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>>185909542
>Metzen
>was actually talented at some point in time
>Kaplan
>hired because he whined enough
so why do normies love kaplan again? is it because he's balding like them?
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this has to be intentional right
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>>185909917
?
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>>185910092
>>185909917
if your games lastedlike 1 min longer you'd get the xp
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>>185909735
Kaplan can be charming at times so if you don't really line up what he actually says vs what he actually does i can see being fooled into thinking he's cool.
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TOD is so fucking good for Garrosh.

His best map?
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>>185874259
>Call hog
What the fuck
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>>185908631
it's a bit smaller than dark swarm i think
should be larger aoe imo
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>>185804172
>If he had a rogue spell as an ult
Do you niggers even play the games you complain about?
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>>185912052
he's talking about dota rupture not some dumb wow shit
strygwyr the bloodseeker is not a rogue, he is either a crazy cultist or a pig depending on which version you play
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>>185912367
>wanting some retarded shit that doesn't even fit the character or his lore
Even worst nigger at least what he does in Heroes he does in wow.
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>>185908790
>>185908089

No it doesnt. I used to sleep during the day and wake up at night and start ranked at 4AM to 11 AM (GMT+2) the games have been the best quality than any other time of day

Are you actually trying to troll me or are you being morons for real? Maybe you should consider going back to r eddit?
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>>185910815
His best map is Braxis Holdout
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>>185912459
i think people just want a rupture hero to shit on genji, they're not thinking too hard about matching 'muh lore'
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>>185914337
Nigger everyone complaining about Garrosh kit is about lore and him being a bruiser fuck off you retarded mong.
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>>185914537
People want him to match some patch cutscenes with some inane shit like "throw chain" and "punch in face >:DDD" and are all retarded, yourself included.
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>>185914901
No wanting something that has nothing to do with the character to counter someone who isn't picked very much anymore and has a 48% win rate is fucking retarded kill yourself for suggesting it.
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>>185915228
>nothing to do with the character
sure it does
he can't kill shit and can only use his big muscles for shit that isn't killing anything that's not a spear

pretty spot on with the lore
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new garrosh ulti, replaces taunt
name tbd
breaks target spear, rendering target enemy Sonya incapable of using her Q or enemy Cassia incapable of attacking for the rest of the match
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>>185912513
>the games have been the best quality than any other time of day
you're expecting good games
you get good games and ignore the bad to rationalize your expectation
troll harder fag
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>>185915750
Don't forget lunara
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>>185914537
except for me, the guy who wanted rupture.
I just want a "fuck mobility" ult. It'd also be mean as fuck with his drags and tosses
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im still convinced that zarya+garrosh is a good combo but zarya is just too UP right now to be a good assist to another UP hero

feels bad
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>>185916829
>I just want a "fuck mobility"
You mean Decimate? the thing that gives em a 30% for over 8 seconds if you use it right?
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>>185917065
As that doesn't punish ability-based movement, no
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>>185917065
pro tip slows and repositions are good against low-mobility heroes and weak against high-mobility heroes

tracer and genji care the less about that 30% slow or that toss than any other heroes in the game
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>>185917234
>>185917165
If you force that Genji Swift strike or double jump that is literally a dead genji if he doesn't use it smartly and 2 stacks of Decimate will be back up before either of those will, or you can aoe taunt him and kill him in place while you team kills him. This is a player skill issue not the hero.
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agreed, jaina is the perfect genji counter
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>win mvp
>lose match

hammer feels
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>>185918257
>thiccfags
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>>185918767
>[CONFUSED GROWLING]
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Nice brawl
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>>185919317
[cheating intensifies]
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>>185919437
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Varian gameplay music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izvEzIWdO2c

Btw if u play Varian not with the Lo gosh skin then u have brain damage for real

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcg7coEUqGo
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And as varian u always go for the WRAAAAAAGH ult. Makes u the real Barbarian Wrynn
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>>185920167
Team up with sonya for extra marauding feeling
The one with the most kills claims the war spoils. As in rape each other.
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>>185919961
the lo gosh skin is ugly and looks like shit though
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feels fucking shit getting matched with "sry team first time :)" niggers every game and they are like level 1100.
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hots devs are so incompetent their nerfs are actually buffs
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>>185922693
remember when zarya was released as the weakest hero in the game, then within two days buffed into the strongest hero in the game
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congratulations to team liquid for winning over ten million just now
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>>185922568
"sorry, new to dota" is my boilerplate excuse for playing like shit
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>>185922983
Buff her again please
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1st placement on my smurf, unlucky enough to play with subhumans from plat5, i also get a moron in team who picks li li CAUSE HE HATES THE MAP XD, a complete retard who takes ragnaros to lane vs leoric, doesnt use his trait on 1st wave and a feeder nazeeb

thx blizzard for making this epic loot box system. cant make a decent hero pool cause of this. anub taken,l eoric taken. no other normal heroes to pick

now ill have to play with tards from gold
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>>185924662
blizz is Bad At Game Balance
they only even think about buffing the weakest 3 heroes and nerfing the strongest 3, everything else goes untouched for months or years at a time
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>>185925051
Blizzard must have some internal rule where they're not allowed to admit to being wrong about things and to double down on almost every decision they make. Like how nobody likes 2CP maps in Overwatch but they just added a new 2CP map instead of reworking them.
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>winstreak
>everyone listens to pings, good coordination, everyone has map awareness, good calls all around

>lose streak
>3 specialist teams that all want to solo lane only to get seige damage numbers
>support is his first game ever
>no one knows what a map is
>double digit deaths
>flamed when any pings or shots are called
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they just make stupid decisions in general
"oh tass is low winrate and also has a really fixed One Good Talent Build-itis again? let's buff the only good talent at level 4 to attempt to fix the first problem while making the second one even worse!"
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>>185925406
forced 50%
(((they))) are giving you players who listen to your pings because they know your macro decisionmaking is shit and it'll cause you to lose
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I wanna spend Doritos. 9000 of them seems like too much. On what though?
I just bought the War Beat for Zul'jin.

I'm considering the squid Stukov to go with the Sad Cloud, but I'm not 100%.
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>>185925912
You need mad axe Garrosh and the Roadhog.
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>>185925912
buy a 100-400 shard skin for every hero you play
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>>185925051
>>185925358
I'm kind of disgusted when I read stuff like this and remember that Valve was somehow even worse for both of their big multiplayer games.
If they balanced HotS, they'd give Butcher bolt at level 1, Li Li would do more damage than Alarak with 200% sadism, Genji would have a 5s stun, Tassadar would do 50 damage before quest, and Dehaka tongue would have a 3s cooldown. Then they'd make Alarak start at 25% sadism with no other changes, swap Tyrael and Tracer's HP, and Greymane's W would have a 70s cooldown.
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>>185926185
Don't own Garry yet and have never seen a Mad Max movie. I must admit it looks good, I'll probably snag it when Garrosh gets buffs since he's clearly too hard for dummies.

>>185926187
I feel I always have for every hero that has options for skins. I'll take another look though. I guess I'll snag squid Stukov. Zul'jin needs some god damn skins.
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>>185927178
It could be worse, it could be Riot who just completely change a character fundamentally based on who's whining the hardest on the forums.
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>>185927178
strong doesnt mean imbalanced anon
valve's games tend to be much better balanced than blizzard's, even if you get buttmad about dying and decide that whoever killed you must have been OP
in hots everything hits like a wet noodle and feels much weaker than in dota, but that doesn't mean hots is more balanced (because it isn't lmao)
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>>185927643
ah yes here come the valvedrones, here's your (You), PA/LC/WR main

>>185927587
this is true though
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>>185927643
>in hots everything hits like a wet noodle
Tell that to Sulfuras smash shitter or Zeratul in general.
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>>185927178
I don't know why you think this. Please elaborate.
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>>185927178
>play hots
>they delete nova/valeera from the game because literal bronze-gold players are too shit to deal with them
>everything hits like a wet noodle because their playerbase has elderly reactions
least its something stupid and casual to mess around in
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>>185927841
Because that's exactly how they balance Dota. If the hero in question is braindead, buff it so you can kill people in two unit-target spells. If the hero takes any form of skill or positioning, nerf it until it's fucking useless. If you do buff a skill-based hero, buff it so hard in all the wrong ways so that it becomes braindead.

>>185927880
Tell me how "skilled" you are at pressing 3 buttons leisurely and getting a kill while playing a timing minigame for 10 minutes at the start of every match. I'm waiting.
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>>185927749
>PA is OP
she was picked like once in the most recent tournament and lost horribly, you really are just complaining about things you lose to in pubs

>>185927789
zeratul does a lot of damage but in hots almost every hero (and every stealth hero in particular) is specifically balanced to not have enough burst damage to solokill anyone

zera doesn't have anything on a shadowblade lina or manta abyssal antimage in terms of "fuck you you are deleted"
hots feels like a game where the developers think it is Not Okay to die for any reason other than being blatantly out of position and also outnumbered
and then you get bullshit like 6 minute long 0-death teamfights
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>>185928183
are you implying that greymane takes skill
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>>185924996
2nd placement. matched with plats still. ok. picking KT as double mage because fucktards banned my anub. instantly get flamed by 2 teammates. varian insists on soloing vs ragnaros, he harasses me but i end up soloing. we game win in roflstomp.

so we end the game i whisper all 6 other players this :)

Hello. Please report Delryn, bathingfrogc and Mayki for Abusive Chat. These players are harassing others. They should be silenced. If you left the stats screen then do it through /whisper <name> and click report
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>>185928183
>league friend stuck in gold for years swapped to hots of the storm and got masters
idk dude its a serious competitive game tho
didnt that dyrus guy get grandmaster in the two weeks he played to raise money for charity

>>185928450
how many reports for the silences anyways, is it like 15
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>>185928450
this is gay, youre gay, they wont report if its any effort should have said it was the game was closing

why did you pick a double mage? can you not play another character? If they banned your pick and you wanted to fuck up the comp and tank the game then ok but sometimes you gotta work around it for the greater good
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>>185928358
No, but a hell of a lot more than any fucking Dota DPS does. If he was a Dota character, Q would be unit-target and hit in an area around the victim instead of a cone, his autoattacks would hit 3 times as hard, his W would be a permanently active passive, and his ult would do 1000 pure damage or some shit.
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>>185928948
>things that do more damage are easier to play
yes if he was in dota he would do more damage but so would his enemies
you're right about his Q though, dota tends to have far fewer skillshots than league or hots
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in fact i'd say playing ranged damage heroes in hots is significantly easier than dota
you can pretty much just stand behind your tank and autoattack shit and as long as your tank and support are somewhere vaguely within a screen distance away you can be confident that the enemy doesn't have enough cc or damage to burst you down before you or your team reacts
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>>185928450
>they banned my hero so i threw
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>>185924996
>doesnt use his trait on 1st wave
is this a normal thing to do on rag?
i realize i really don't know much about when to use MC other than the really fuckin obvious shit like enemy team pushing with boss/objective or your team pushing a keep with a destroyed fort nearby
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>>185928948
but didn't you say that if he were a dota hero his W would have a 70 second cooldown
which is it nigger
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>>185929931
>>185928728
no i picked KT because he has no counters in plat

>>185924996
3d placement. matched with plat 3s. feelsbadman. picked anub and roflstomped on garden of terror
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>>185929476
He's right in that it would be unit-target. Cone AoE though wouldn't be too much of a stretch to put on a doter hero, what with shit like psi-blades and shackle shot being in the game. And it doing damage not to the unit-target but to stuff near it, that's like Winter Wyvern's nuke
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>Samuro recieves no changes for the past half year
>Suddenly out of nowhere is topping the winrate charts
Explain.
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>>185931135
he JUST got a bugfix one patch ago
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>>185931006
psiblades aoe is a rectangle though
dragon slave is a tapering cone shape albeit a fucking gigantic one
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>>185931135
his illusions are less dumb thanks to AI fix and pathing fix AND a fix to giving illusions commands with IM ult
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>>185931185
>>185931358
That's all well and good and all, but everyone still takes bladestorm so that's not really relevant.
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>>185931135
game balance is hard when your heroes do complicated shit

the real answer is that his counters are falling out of the meta and immobile new heroes flooding compositions make him more viable as a result
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>>185930880
but you ruined the comp in the process, you can play around "counters" but not a shit comp
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>>185931843
o i didnt. 2 tank 2 mage is nice. are u trying to justify a retard moron varian, u dumb shit?

>>185924996
4th placement
still matched with plats. plat 1.
pick diablo cos anub banned, warhead junction. ez win in 13 minutes
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>>185932789
2 mages is objectively the lowest winrate comp in the game regardless of comp or map
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>>185932964
>PLAT
XD
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>>185933048
>XD
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What's the best Zarya build? Max poke, max energy, or max shielding?
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>>185934047
all grenades
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man why the fuck every time I play Arthas I gotta be matched against some real fucking tryhards

impossible to get a good game with him anymore
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I don't know how to be a heal slut?
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>>185934047
Grenades is her shittiest build
She has a lot of situational talents that influence energy generation and sustain, also she's shit right now don't play her.
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>>185933048
Why does everyone shit on Plat anyway? It's still the top, what 25% of players?
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>>185934867
because plat is fucking atrocious if you're genuinely playing the game
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>>185934528
Play Lucio or Morales, the other supports are bad at healslutting. YES, that's mean's Auriel too. Don't fucking play her in QM ever. DON'T.
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>>185934867
Because its rlly rlly bad
Diamond in this game is like what.. Gold in league? Probably that. 2k MMR in Dota

>>185924996
5th placement. sky temple. not rlly ezy win. ez in late game with rewind. had down's syndrome auriel and super moron valla who argue whole game. was matched with p1 d5 ppl
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>>185935117
I played Lucio twice and did really well without having to know what the fuck was going on desu
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>>185935127
People keep saying that, but it doesn't make it true.
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>>185935243
pardon
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>MVP as Garrosh
is there a better feeling
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>>185934867
being in the top 25% of hots players is like being valedictorian at a school for the developmentally impaired
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>>185937552
MVP with Thrall
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>>185935243
Whatever makes u sleep better at night
>>185924996
6th placement. braxis. pick anub. win. there were some difficulties with my teammates but anyway it was no chance to lose game. matchced with d4 ppl
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>>185935127
2250 in dota is 50th percentile
plat would be closer to 3k
and i think 3.5k or 3.75k is the 90th or 95th percentile
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I can't seem to win with Zul'jin anymore; what gives?
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>>185937771
I'm pretty sure 4k is about the average now since MMR in Dota is super inflated these days.
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>>185801367
>tfw you play Rag on Braxis hold out

I shit you not lost 5 fucking Zerg waves 100-0 but still won because Rag is just a giant fuck you. 314k siege damage and best hero damage in the game with 58k.
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>>185938295
I hope that was QM, because if someone didn't ban Rag on Braxis they weren't doing their job.
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>>185924996
7th placement. cursed hollow. mix of players from d5 to master. valeera pick that overstays on lanes instead of coming to trib = ez lose
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what are odds
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>>185938382
Unranked but I'm a silver shitter so
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>>185939491
Savage.
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So I believe this is the current leaked list of heroes that are still probable, right?

Kel'Thuzad
Shandris
Valerian
Varimathras
Mengsk
Maiev
Imperius
Gromm
Brann
Baal
Alleria
Deckard Cain
Rocknroll Racer
Selendis
Vashj
Tosh
Moira
Belial
Deathwing
Ghom
Cydaea
Aidan
Junkrat
Protoss/Zerg Hybrid
Terran Firebat
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>>185940238
>Shandris

My wife
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>>185940238
Nigger its KT fire bat ana junkrat and two others I forgot.
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>>185940936
No order given in that list, just "heroes we've heard are being worked on from any vaguely reliable source".
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>3 qm games in a row where someone on my team leaves
>third game a premade of garrosh/tyrande/brightwing pick comp won't end on purpose to farm my butcher bot
>endless waves of mercs sent at us while we have catapults in 3 lanes, objective completely ignored while we can't leave
Why must people be so mean? We nearly came back because I pinged butcher bot and helped it finish his quest. We were level 25 on garden and were almost able to core because the bot wiped 4 people with its hyper aggro charges.
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>>185924996
8th placement. same ranks diamond. valeera player in team again, playing garrosh. garden of terror, we lose vs a team with no healer because the same fucking retard prefered to do pve instead of forcing fights which we have been roflstomping through without a moron greymane who was always on the other side of the map from our team. could have won easily if we fought more, in end lost because i made decision to go core with 3 dead enemies on 15 sec timers, we all died on 10%

yea my last call lost it but it is this fucktard who makes things complicated
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>>185940238
>Deckard Cain
I'd rather him be an announcer for a Diablo map. Like Tristram.
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>>185924996
9th placement. dragon shire. ez win. decided to troll pick sgt hammer, felt like its gnna be super nice vs enemy dehaka and falstad. our team lunara vs their solo uther helped. played like raynor. got mvp

SGT HAMMER = VERY FUN HERO. FOCUSED ATTACK ON LVL 7, LVL 9 REDUCE THRUSTERS CD IS IMBA
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>team has 20 coins
>catapults hitting our core
>instead of either defending base or turning in, 100% of them chase a low hp genji across the map
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quick match or unranked?
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>>185924996
fucking sad got placed into plat1 because of faggots last game. forgot pic duno why cant delete the post 4chan fucking sucs
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>>185947556
>those whispers
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I've gotten bodyblocked so many times i can only feel that it's intentional at this point.
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>>185941234
Leaker said it may not be exact but did call Garrosh. He posted it after Stukov. Way things are heading it makes sense. Historically they've announced two characters at Gamescon. With the Hearthstone event and Starcraft remastered it's actually possible Kel'Thuzard and Firebat get shown. Then you have the two Overwatch characters (one of which fits the whole "good year for supports" quote) and then end it with yet another big ass support from WoW. Face it it's gonna happen.
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>>185947556
>those whispers
jesus fuck what a manbaby
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Games like this are gonna convince me to buy this stupid bitch, even though I was completely mech feeding all game.

I think I died as pilot once, but I felt immortal the rest of the time. Clearly, I gave them tons of XP but murdering people as pilot D.Va is great fun.
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>>185949010
Im not familiar with any report raiders so the only chance to get noobs removed from ranked is to PM ppl
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>>185949068
>Top hero damage
Did the other team try and roast marshmallows around your exploding mech the entire game or something.
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>>185949068
>he plays with the asianigger skin
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>>185949149
>everyone i think is bad is a noob and needs to not play ranked
>makes le smurf account
>literally falls to plat 1
>autistically has a pasta to send to his team after every match to report people you don't like
sounds like you're the top bunga here m8
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>>185949313
haha you mad drumpkin?
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>>185949342
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>>185949149
I can't believe you're a real person
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>>185949821
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>>185949258
Honestly, I only got like two hits with explodey. But they just took tons of pew pew with both mech and big shot. Honestly, we need an assassin that has something like bigshot. Like, all they do. It is so fun.

>>185949313
I don't play with defaults and I didn't pull any of her legends, so Bl.Va it was.
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>Taunt
>Silence a target Hero and force them to attack Varian for 1.25 seconds.
>Passive: Maximum Health increased by 30%.
>Passive: Gain 0 Armor.
>Gain 0 armor
>0 Armor
For what purpose? Just remove that part of the tool tip then?
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wtf
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explain this
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Anyone have that autism chart with the various characters? I could have sworn I saved it, but fuck me I can't find it.
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>>185950553
When you play at weird hours, it throws in AI because who cares. Not enough people.
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>>185950875

saturday night isn't really weird hours. i was only in the queue for a minute before it decided to match me like this. it was also all lunaras and the AIs were fucking retarded since all they do is run around and look for health packs if they go under 60% health.
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>>185950641
>on a pale horse very situational powerful
>deaths reach niche but equally strong to FTR
Whats not to get
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>>185950641
Movement speed and ignoring bodyblocking can serve as escape, help positioning in teamfights and even be used to chase a fleeing person.

I love that talent. And the cooldown is pretty short.
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>>185945297
Gazlowe is assassin, lol ecks dee
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>>185938382
Rag used to be instant first ban there, but several games I've seen have let him slip through. Even a couple that let me snag him as literal last pick.
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Auriel - dumb shit bitch, voiced by nigger, refuses to help IMPERIVS
Brightwing - pretty nice helpful animal
Cassia - literally SJW
Chromie - cute but actually a dragon so disgusting
D.Va - gook bitch SJW superhero gamer girl fantasy
Jaina - piece of shit super traitor bitch, helps kill her own father, ignores Scourge in Stratholme, fucks with dragons
Johanna - extremely disgusting woman trying to be a man, SJW hairstyle
Kerrigan - piece of shit super traitor bitch who thinks her revenge should matter
Li Li - nice girl I would drink her tea and say thanks li li
Li-Ming - fucking disgusting gook shit bitch thinks too highly of herself + mega slut
Lt. Morales - nice woman I guess but seems like she is overweight on her portrait, should take care of her health
Lunara - disgusting shit bitch degenerate supertrash also thinks she is the best, cause she is the literal who daughter of Cenarius
Lucio - gay nigger tranny DJ
Nova - super disgusting race mixing piece of shit, all she does is fart and get fucked
Sgt. Hammer - same as Lt. Morales
Sonya - would suck her cock
Sylvanas - the worst bitch ever disgusting pile of shit thinks her unlife should matter
Tracer - most subhuman char ever, lesbian pile of shit, disgusting body, haircut and personality
Tyrande - down's syndrome piece of shit, 10k+ yrs old but is super fucking dumb bimbo, nigger accent
Valeera - super shit slut fucked by orcs, disgusting personality
Valla - ok I guess but shit voice, should talk less this fucking bitch
Zagara - nice pleasant mother but really disgusting alien freak
Zarya - same as Johanna
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>>185951447
is this the power of autism?
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>>185950864
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>>185951536
Nah, it's just a full on omega male virgin.
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>>185951536
Yes
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>>185951582
Excellent. Thanks, anon.
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>>185950041
Make friends or take up a hobby or something.
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>>185951582
who are eye contact, sameness, and echo supposed to be?
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>>185951808
Nova, no one(?), and rexxar respectively
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>>185950951
nobody plays brawl except when its the last day and theres hours left before it changes, everyone rushes to get that box
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>>185951898
>>185951808
Didn't we come up with a sameness character to fit there?
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How do I build Jaina?
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>>185953012
the version I have saved has Thrall in it. I think I once saw one with Kerrigan
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>>185954153
Pick KT or some decent assassin instead.
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The archangels look so weird riding motorcycles
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>>185954513
You need the demonic skins for that
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>>185954153
I've always found I have to build her based on the enemy team.
Level 1:
>Do they have a Chromie or Hammer?
Go for the extra range.
>Do they have dual warriors?
Get the Lingering Chill
>Do they have have divers or fast-moving assassins?
Go for Deep Chill

Level 4
>Are they constantly clumping up in team fights?
Go for Frost Shards.
>Do you want more mana?
Get Arcane Intellect
>Their melee getting close to you?
Go Frost Armor.

Level 7
>Do they have an annoyingly fast assassin like Tracer?
Probably best to take Ice Floes
>Is their comp fairly slow?
Go Frostbitten for some extra oomph.
>Did you build for Frostbolt in the last two tiers?
Get Ice Lance.

Level 10
Get Ring of Frost
Ignore Elemental. It sucks.

Level 13
>Trouble with Hammer?
Get Storm Front.
>Are you taking a lot of damage or want to solo merc camps?
Get Ice Barrier.
>Is your frontline doing a great job protecting you?
Icy Veins is fine.

Level 16
>Does your team need waveclear, or more AOE for objectives?
Go Snowstorm
>Their tank able to take a lot of damage? Or they have Uther and two warriors?
Northern Exposure for armor reduction.
>Enemy has fast assassins?
Root the cunts with Numbing Blast.

Level 20
Since you took Ring of Frost at 10, go ahead and improve it here.

If they have an Illidan who likes to fly in across the map, Ice Block may be a good choice.
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>>185954153
frostbolt build usually because it makes you useful more than once every 10 seconds

level 1: frostbolt range (self-evident) or chill duration (meaning it lasts longer than frostbolt cooldown)
level 4: piercing
level 7: ice lance
10: almost always ring of frost
13: icy veins, combined with ice lance this turns you into a frostbolt machinegun
16: vulnerability or root depending on which benefits you more this game
20: ice block
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Why am I hearing so much talk about a Firebat hero anyways? Was one leaked or something?
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>>185955078
>ring of frost upgrade
why would you do this the upgrade is so shit
even in the perfect game where you are never in danger and never even need ice block, that 15% spellpower would benefit your ulti far more than the actual ring upgrade
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>>185955192

Thanks
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>>185955078
Thanks for nothing anon. You're just listing one obvious example situation for every talent. It may as well've been
>You want range? Take range talent
>You want slow? Take slow talent

Then there's this gem
>Since you took Ring of Frost at 10, go ahead and improve it here.
Opinion discarded
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>Three members of the team fed
>After the game they were offline
I hope they promptly killed themselves since blizzard will never ban them
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>>185955367
I find Ice Block to be useless late game except for very few situations. Most of the time, it's a full team fight and then if I'm in danger enough to use it, it's just delaying the inevitable by a few seconds.
But you're right. I forgot to mention Arcane Power, which really is the best to take if you want some more damage.
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>>185955467
also
>take ice floes because clicking on heroes with your instant-cast non-skillshot ability is too hard and you keep missing
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>>185955304
Everyone knows Firebats are cool
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>>185955304
it's a meme because hotsg is retard and believes everyone who claims to be a leaker
just like after malth everyone was absolutely sure that the next hero was gonna be junkrat or kelthuzad
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>>185955304
I'd prefer a hellion/hellbat hero.
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>>185955694
well, the leak did guess 3 heroes that got released shortly next to each other, so it could've been true

I was the one who wrote it and had the time of my life over few months of retards treating it like the word of gospel
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>>185954321
That Illidan makes me lose it every. fuckin. time.
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>>185956192
that guy isn't even a fcuking leaker he's just listing shit that was posted in other 'leak' posts
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Probably because I was Diablo but being dead for 5s once means I wasn't 100% of the time.
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>duo queue as Malthael + Leoric
>enemy tank melts before he can even get into melee range
>enemy team has no front line to protect them

Now this is a spicy meme
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>>185950957
Whenever I have to BHB, I firstpick Malth with Pale Horse and just get all the camps.
He's good at jungling and wrecks the shit out of clumped up teamfights at the pirate.
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>play non stop for a week
>get burned out
>a month after do it all again
THE RIDE NEVER ENDS
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What lane do I even go to as a support character. I've never played a proper game of hots so I don't even know the "meta lanes"
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>>185962574
I just stick with whoever is probably going to have the hardest time laning.
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Speaking of proper games, who should get the Terror/Dragon?
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>>185963380
One of the vikings
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>>185963380
Abathur
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>>185963380
Generally the hero who has the least CC, the least ability to siege, or low utility.

So, if you have lunara, raynor, [support], a specialist and stitches... You probably want stitches in the terror - he's not good at sieging and his ability to hook isn't particularly useful compared to the plants aoe poly + structure disabling shit.
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>>185963601
>>185963842
yea, I ran into that one as usual, my positioning is terrible
>>185964194
Sounds reasonable
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>>185963380
>>185964417
Also, with dragon. Walls on mid and bot first that's probably all you'll get with first knight. Then mid fort, then bot fort, then bot keep and mid keep.

Bot is the most valuable lane to push (because giants and bruisers can aid you and if you have mid fort down it's moderately hard to flank *and* you can only get flanked on one side). Mid is okay to push but it doesn't have camps that can assist. Do not ever push top with the dragon, the death-bridge funnels you hard and you can get cut-off without escape. If you have something like a zagara that manages to kill top via mercs + mutalisks that's fine, but do not ever try to hardpush top, it is the worst lane.

Most games of dragon shire are won through bot lane.
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>>185964417
I was being serious
Abby can tunnel away from terror when it's done
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>>185964775
Oh I know, TLV is good too, I meant that those two were the rather obvious choices
>>185964615
Noted
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>>185964615
>>185965547
Taking bot keep first also gives you the most room to work with inside the enemy base.
Taking mid keep first just forces you to retreat because you get funneled into the tight space between a tower, a keep, and the core.
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>jaina and kt keep dying to stupid shit
>butcher charges in alone and dies then spams ping on me, says he's gonna report me and calls me noob
>kt and jaina keep bitching that lanes are pushing and that they are dying
>enemies keep getting all the merc camps
>on top of all that, I'm Garrosh and my q tickles waves at lvl 20
>despite all that, the match still took the 30 most stressful minutes of my life

if only blizzard hadn't decided that garrosh had to deal 0 siege damage, the game would've been fine
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>>185966217
Just play stitches. You can still catch retards out of position and have somewhat decent waveclear.
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>>185888884
such a shit bait. Keeps linking the fireden even twice!! while you can clearly see there the real axotlotl has a tripcode. Also kelthuzad ,ana,junkrat,alexstrasza were already leaked on reddit, so if the guy is right he would just try to take the credit.
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>Grimy skank Alexstrasza gets added
>Not best aspect girl Ysera

What are you even doing blizz
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>>185968267
They already added Chromie
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Why was Kaelthas damage nerfed so much? He was overtuned on release but now his damage is worse than Chromie's with shorter range while being just as immobile being left to the mercy of all the cancerwatch and dash heroes.
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>>185968663
Chromie doesn't have a stun
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:)
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>>185969475
Quit playing quickmatch.
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I LIKED THE OLD LOGO BETTER RRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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why is stukov allowed
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>>185969548
even if I went to unranked/hero league, I'm sure I'd be assaulted by the same bullshit game after game
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>>185969598
He's the only fun support
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>>185969818
you mean the only OP support
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>>185969231
Oh yeah, that makes up for half the range on his skills with absolutely no health pool.
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>>185801367

Ask me anything, bros.
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>>185972937
Why would you subject yourself to 50+ levels of TLV.
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>>185972937
What did you do all day before this game came out?
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>>185973004
fun

>>185973127
student
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>>185801367

How?!?!
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>>185973004
>>185973127
he exploited the old A.I. idling...
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So as all we know there are currently two supports in the game that are not viable when it comes to solo support, and Lili who can solo but many struggle to do so. Now the question is should Blizzard release more supports character that can not solo support in order to balance it out?
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>>185975649
I highly doubt that the double support meta is what Blizzard really wants.
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I can't get out of gold, even when I play to the best of my abilities I get either a draft throw where people don't pick properly, talent throws where they do fucking stupid shit or just straight up 3/4 people on my team feeding, it's draining me mentally
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>>185976732
So Tyrande and Tassadar will have to continue being non-viable solo supports then
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>>185977265
I want more half-supports. Like why have multiclass if there's only one character in it.
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>>185977265
they are perfectly viable solo sup, not all supports need to be healers
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>>185977387
But they need to be able to keep the team alive
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>level kt to 5 in qm
>every game there is a nova on the enemy team
Sure fun way to play him when I always have to hug the tower because there is no healer or tank with enough brain to peel.
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kaelthas rework when

he is the most unbalanced broken hero in the sense where if they don't have a stealth or a hard engage diver you automatically win because you can get your stacks to 20 and carry an entire team but if they do (which is like half the roster at this point) you automatically lose because you can get focused down in two seconds and if you lose your stacks its basically a game over

it's like old artanis where one thing dictates whether you lose or win the game but even worse because it's down to before the game even starts instead of a level 16 talent
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>>185957845
Weirdly it doesn't count that death for XP which might be why that happen
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>dude picks Guldan
>I pick Auriel
>he goes full Drain Life talents
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>>185937860
I play him with swirling axes and guillotine, been practicing my guillotines trying to git gud with his non-tazdingo playstyle. Easy to get mvp since you tend to be less all-in and play more of a cant-catch-me kiter. full teamfights if you are good at reading the enemy team and landing your shit you can get off like 2-3 swirling axes otherwise you are useless. I think people go taz all the time because its hard to fuck up where as guillotine takes time and practice to land, especially with the amount of mobility in the game. Lv 20 tho below 50% hp guillotines are ez kills on their squishies because ensnare is basically a 3 second window for free guillotine. Zul'jin is crazy, on one hand he can be this right click power house that doesnt really need anything but his trait and Q, but then on the other hand he can be this burst caster that requires very accurate skillshots and timing. Not sure which is better, probably just based on map, comp, and enemy comp like always.
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garrosh needs a bigger backswing on his Q
stepping towards him should be a legit counterplay, but right now it isn't because he can move so fast after the Q it's really hard to step in, then step out to not get thrown anyways
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>>185978474
Then go with a living bomb build
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>>185978474
lol. retard. you have absoutely 0 idea what you are talking about
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>>185978474
Why even bother playing Kaelthas? Just pick Kaelthas 2.0 aka Chromie with following updates:
>more damage on every skill
>more range on every skill
>7s ice block so those pesky divers can't kill you even if they get close to you
>0 mana problem, just throw your shit around you still won't run out of mana
>not one but TWO objectively better ults
Buy now for the cheap price of 10k gold :^)
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>>185979289
>imblibbityblying that anyone who isnt a mouthbreathing retard or bladestorm samuro actually clumps up with other people and lets living bomb spread
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>>185979289
>bomb build
>pick only a different level 7
>woah, it's a completely new build
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>>185979890
>Pick chroime
>Can't do anything KT is even picked for like Shrine clearing and wave clear or aoe pressure
10/10
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>>185980037
>imblibbityblying that anyone who isnt a mouthbreathing retard or bladestorm samuro actually clumps up with other people and Convection build up
>>185980383
>pick only a different level 7
No, you're supposed to take a different level 1, level 16 and level 20 talent.
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>>185980658
the difference is that you can still get convection stacks even if you only hit one person and it actually deals damage lategame unlike living bomb if nobody spreads it
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>>185980408
>Chromie W doesn't clear clumped up shrines or minion waves
wew lad
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>>185980984
Nigger it has something compared to KT flamestrike or living you dumb monkey
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QUICK

CAN I DODGE MURKY DURING PLACEMENTS WITHOUT PENALTY?
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>>185969626
if you lose this many qm games in a row, it is entirely possible its not your fault. if the same shit happens to you in draft mode, you're the one to blame. does that explain enough to you?
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>>185981539
Yeah. Sure. So it.
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I wish i knew why HOTS hates my connection so fucking much. I don't think i've had these type of disconnection problems in my entire life.
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>>185981659
TOO LATE MOTHERFUCKER
WHY WOULD YOU NOT TELL ME SOONER
1 MINUTE 30 SECONDS
YOU
SLOW
TYPER
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>>185981765
>log out
>log back in
>34 minute wait
Did WoW update or something what the fucking shit?
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>>185981773
Meh. 4chanX doesn't update that fast when I'm not in the tab.
Enjoy your game with the Murkster.
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>>185801367
What the fck is this shit? Are qs a thing on Heroes?
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>>185983089
Usually only when blizzard games get big updates
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>>185983314
Is anything new coming out today?
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>>185972937
What bot program do you use
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>>185983372
Yeah, they've introduced your mama as a new skin for roadhog, but she's quite on the heavy side so it takes a while to download the patch.
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>>185978536
That seems like a bug... i've never bothered to look if a death provided xp or not. I'm not sure how to treat this potential knowledge.
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STOP GIVING ME FIRSTPICK I DONT WANT TO PLAY THESE BORING META HEROES EVERY FUCKING GAME
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>>185984217
They don't pick the meta heroes, pick whoever you want. That's what I do
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>>185984217
Just select a unit that was banned and let the timer run out. It won't boot you because you do show that you're there. It will just select randomly from the heroes you have available.
Which sometimes means you'll first-pick Murky, but if that's what the Blizzard RNG Gods decree, that's what they decree.
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>>185984363
I'm not in the shitters ranks where you can get away with that
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>>185951447
This is a nice list. I like this list. Double check Chromie and Cassia though.
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>>185939491
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No more HGC streams today?
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>>185984482
Neither am I, but I do it my work and make it work.
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>blizzard legit getting DDOS'd right now
what script kiddie got buttmad at blizzard today
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>>185985229
And... It´s back
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Is hero level considered in qm matchmaking? I just bought Xul and I get matched with people that seem to lack the understanding that going into the enemy team with 10% health is a bad idea.
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My favorite thing about this game is how everyone just casually accepts that they don't know how to play on Haunted Mines and that it's going to be a loss no matter what.
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>>185985539
no
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>>185985607
Seriously , shitter here , what is the actual right way to play HM?
Ive heard people say that you should ignore obj and just get camps the first two golems , others say you should force tf before obj.
Im honestly lost here.
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>>185984730
>tfw you cant enjoy HGC anymore after watching TI and tasting the forbidden fruit of actually varied drafts, lanes and strategy
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>>185985830
the biggest mistake I usually see is people never ever getting camps and always going into mines as heroes that shouldn't like Xul or Probe.
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>>185985830
Draft single target damage and moderate waveclear.
Take sappers, escort them in and deal heavy structural damage while enemy is busy getting weak skulls.
Your weak golem still needs to be attended to because it'll soak through both towers and a keep if left alone while minions wreck shit, so they can't push with their strong golem.
At the same time, your superior single target damage will probably rip it apart before it got through your gate.
Rinse and repeat for the second golem.
After that one, run as five, look at the map where people are getting mini-skull camps and pick them off, after 2/3 takedowns just take the remaining skulls, then do camps while golems are spawning and push hard.
If you ever get more than 4 kills, fuck all that and go directly for a keep/core, and when you have to back off due to respawn start camps/skulls again.
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>>185985830
first golem you send one person in to just clear the easy straggler camps and the rest of you do aboveground camps

after that teamfight inside the mines
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>tfw f2p medivhs on my team every game
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>>185986021
>after watching TI
w-what's that?
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>>185989048

Dota 2's "The International" tournament.
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What's one niche or slightly underpowered hero you like to play, but deserves a slight buff? What buff would you give them?
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>>185989560
rexxar
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>>185989560
Tychus
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>wake up
>slam out some Garrosh wins
>eating delicious leftover fajitas
>no plans so get to veg out and play my favorite game
hows your day /hotsg/
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>>185989661
Rexxar was good until they tied all misha movement to D
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Adventures in trash QM.

Man, this game. It was so fun, I just wish you know, we won.
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How do we fix Morales to make her not disgustingly boring to play.
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Guess!

>>185991096
Not the point of her, though.
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>>185991217

Kel'Thuzad
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>>185989560
>Gazlowe
Get rid of his mana bar. Scrap already effects CDR so its already still useful. All his abilities have appropriate cool downs as is.
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ATTENTION /hotsg/
IMPORTANT SURVEY:

http://www.strawpoll.me/13697197
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>>185991320
Damn.
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>>185981773
ye, no rank/point loss for dodging during placements
and from what I can tell no mmr loss either

no cap on the amount of times you can dodge during your initial 10 but keep in mind that you do get the leaver penalty (play X brawls/qms) that stacks up

and dodging non placement games is -600 which is three losses, so don't even think about it
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>>185991515
Fuck off.
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>>185991217
No character should be boring on purpose though.
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varian theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky-NlguJE6c

tyrael theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-sJp1FfG7Q

xul theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRR0Gc0YuZs

tychus theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIiUqfxFttM

ragnaros theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOErZuzZpS8

kaelthas theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWgvET_smDg same song diff genre

kharazim theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDR4gY-LVNM

butcher theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1lqGR8UNqI
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>>185993414
I wish everyone involved in the Tyrael one would light themselves on fire and die posting that for their next video.
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>>185989560
Give Zarya 2% more hp or a damage or something please
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malthael theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZl5iFeqBMY

>>185993619
go back to pol kiddo....
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>>185993895
>neo 4-chan is so contrarian it's pro niggers
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leoric theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDFZgsDOZZ0

greymane theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5E7Wh8pbEA

arthas theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcmZQOFEU7s
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what 2 buy?
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>>185995581
become medivh main
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>>185996151
XDDDD

D E D G A E M M M M M
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So who's supposed to win the brawl, offense or defense?
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>>185996509
Defense if everyone is retards or they have a Falstad or anything that can nuke the shit out of chokes
Offense if your team doesn't trickle in and uses their bigdick ultimates in combination.
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>>185996151
To be fair, hots is pretty boring to watch. I only watch certain streamers because I enjoy their playstyle. Also e-sports is super boring to watch.
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>>185996481
Fellow redditor, why are you so triggered? And more importantly, why are you trying to make an excuse for this?
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>>185996509
>So who's supposed to win the brawl
Your team. I know this may be a difficult concept for you to understand, but trust me.
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>>185996753
>>185996874
I dunno seems like offense has it way easier
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>>185996151
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>>185996775
I don't think it's any more boring to watch than anything else in the genre
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>>185996151
>HotS doesn't appeal to e-celebrity loving 20 year olds

Is this supposed to be a bad thing?
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>>185998025
Yes
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>>185996151
>PUBGUH, LeL, GTA, CSGOkillyourself, dead by survivor bias, H1N1, BDO and just literal gambling being all in the top shit
>Caring what these kinds of subhumans think of your game in the first place
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>>185998175
Do you have a cutesy name for everything?
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>>185996151
>hs beating pugb

uhm pugbabs?
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>>185998025
>is hots not appealing to a sizable demographic even an issue
Yes, it is.
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>>185998307
I wish I did but no, those were just somewhat easy to come up with on the fly.

The DbD one especially because I wish that game was ever good anymore but it's just not.
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>>185998615
>M-muh mass appeal
>Actually caring about player numbers after a certain point when it just becomes window dressing anyway

It's the same reason I always found it dumb when people would go crazy over WoW losing some million now and again, like oh no, how will I survive with only 6 million players now when after playing since vanilla I've likely not interacted with even more than a thousand or two.
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Whenever I'm in a position where I can reliably watch someone stream hots (reliable internet, no interruptions, can have volume up, etc.), I can just as easily play HOtS.

When I watch people play video games, it is games I don't have the patience for or something I literally don't own.
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>>185998615
>Wanting a team game to be full of bandwagon-hopping retards and drunken fratboys
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>>185999114
I, on the other hand, watch only games that I play myself, to learn something new or to take a brake and see how others are doing.
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>Absolutely CRUSH the early game as Garrosh; we're killing enemies left and right
>Enemy team manages to stay within 1-2 levels of us because of proper soak
>Suddenly we hit late game and I feel absolutely worthless
>Can't tank well, can't get picks anymore, can't really do anything

Man what the hell is with this hero? Honest to God it feels like no matter how hard you win the early game, your late game is just going to be straight trash because all of your numbers are so low
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>>186000897
You can't do much solo. You need at least one pocket buddie to help you follow up after you combo someone. Also, stop using W at high HP. I notice that a lot and it completely fucks him.
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>>186000897
All you have to do is pull someone, taunt, double up, throw and hope your team knows what to do
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>pick sgt hammer on sky temple
>arthas with 4 deaths by the time of second temple complains about being "low" dmg (even tho i have maximum number of takedowns)
>fucktard picks blood on 7 instead of 100% pick activation talent, sindragosa on 10
>8 deaths
>we losing hard whole game cause of his feeding at start of every fight
>fucktard goes soaking xp on lvl 13 when enemy team is about to hit 16, instead of forcing a chance fight that any person with a minimal understanding of the game should do
>we kill enemy team once in late game, they respawn, we are 1/2 to lvl 20, but he just had to overstay and fight 19 vs 20
>ask everyone to report him :)
>get spanish whispers at the end of game

some ppl just need to be put to death.

i wonder why is it always the french and spanish fucktards that harass ppl in their own language? why not in english?
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>>186001173
being a bad player isn't a reportable offense.

However, being a n autistic manbaby and being for reports to remove the normies reee is.
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wow Tyrael is shit
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>Just trying to get Thrall to 5
>Back to back to back games of faggots leaving early on or throwing sperg fits over random deaths

Jesus fucking christ let me be finished with him.
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>>186001328
I used to think the same until i found a confortable build
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>>186001703
I'm trying out different builds but he doesn't have much presence and ends up just being annoying at worst. I don't know why you'd pick him over anyone comparable.
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>>186001881
because he has aoe invulnerablity and is one of the handful of heroes that can reliably counter hard divers
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>>186001106
That's the problem; once you hit late game people begin positioning in such a way that all key threats will be way out of reach of your grabs, and the only person you'll really be able to get is the enemy tank. You'll need to have either another tank on your team or someone else who can initiate.

I find that if I can't initiate I just have to look for picks after the fight already started, or just save my throws to peel for my backline. Still feels pretty bad.
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>new player d.va never uses self destruct
thanks forced 50
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>>186003303
Don't worry, I always got your back you'll never go on a losing streak over 10 as long as I'm around :)
Also please play draft, it's the easiest to balance and QM makes it hard for me to put you in a winning team if you've been shitting around a lot.
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>my teammates will never stop picking varian on 4-1 lane maps
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Is there any reason not to use quick cast?
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>>186005617
What's so bad about Varian on 4-1 maps?
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>>186006430
if you can't aim or have a double digit IQ
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>>186006454
he is useless in lane and basically ensures you're gonna lose the 4man
4man needs waveclear, ranged damage and lockdown, varian has nothing
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>>186007004
Varian has pretty good lockdown once you hit 10 and usually you don't pick a tank for wave clear or ranged damage even on 4-1 maps. You still have 2 assassin spots open for wave clear and ranged damage. Worst case you just send him top?
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>>186007256
Level 10 is irrelevant if you're already behind big time by then.
And there's not room for a passanger in the 4man. As soon as someone get jumped, whoever has the most stuns and dmg wins. It's not like 1 or 2 people in lane where you can kind of passively soak together. And sure you can cover these things with other heroes, but the enemy brings 4 heroes that each bring something you're the table and you have varian.
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>playing ETC
>assassins have shit follow up and tent to attack the tanks
>they blame me when I die to save 2 of them
shit hurts my head
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>>186007549
>playing ETC
>frogpost

Guess i don't need to read the rest of that post lol
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AXE HACKS
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>>186007802
ETC is top tier though my orcposting reddit friend
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>>186007982
>ETC player calling someone else reddit

Cute, adorable, delightful
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who should I buy next? Mostly interested in malth cassia and thrall
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>>186007460
Which heroes do you consider good tanks in 4-1 maps?
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what heroes are good at bullying stealth?
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>>186008095
>he says while reddit spacing
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>>186008763
That's not what that is dumbshit
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>>186006430
to see ability ranges for things like Globe of Destruction or Garrosh's shamany totem smash thing

But you can just use quickcast on release for that shit.
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>>186009143
that's exactly what that is, el reddito spacioso
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>>186008501
Anyone with a displacement because with 4 man in the lane, whoever gets caught out dies: Stitches, Garrosh, Diablo to some degree
And anytank with a lot of lockdown due to similar reason - stun/root a squishy character and the man zerg gets kill: ETC, Anub, Arthas
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>>186009573
Do you really understand what you're saying?
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>>186009726
do you, das redditen sprachen ?
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>tfw losing streak due to team not knowing their heroes
at least it's qm and doesn't matter, right?
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>our zarya 0 energy the entire match
>keeps pre-shielding, enemy doesn't touch them, then it falls off
>tell her to time is better and try to shield as damage is incoming not before\
>"lol stfu noob just play"
>she gets 13 deaths by end of game
why are people like this? are they even really people?
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>>186011309
>attempting to facilitate communications with the "people" in this game
disable allied chat
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>>186006430
no there isnt any reason not to. i used to play since alpha until few months ago thinking holy fukk how im gnna remember all these ability ranges, 1 day just turned on quick cast for the lolz and not only it was super comfortable setting, cause on charas like kaelthas kerrigan jaina u can use ur combos super fast, there werent any srs range problems either. if u cant rememer range of an ability then just put it off quick cast, or on release. i have problem with leoric W because of this + not always take his lvl 1 W range increase, so its hard to remember. but i dont personally reove it from quick cast cause ill just forget to double press the key and on release is just fucking horrible for me, if u are constantly clicking your character to move then the ability will just cancel
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>>186011309
Free to play and they recently encouraged loads of people via cosmetics.
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Stukov is so fun, goddamn, I finally figured I'd grab him since I wanted a new support and heard good things.

>Massive Shove CD is only 20 seconds

This alone is hilarious.
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>20k healing stukov
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>>186014435
>20IQ poster
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>Ally picks Zarya
>Hover Diablo
>Team says wtf we already have a tank
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>>186015302
how low
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>it's a you go afk during draft and your team picks complete shit episode

THIS IS MASTER LEAGUE HOW DO YOU LASTPICK LEORIC SOLO TANK INTO ILLIDAN FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
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>>186015953
Gold 3
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>When your Garrosh throw is peng shiet and your team jumps on them and you just see the ragdoll victim fly off into the terrain

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GekHBQgj1EI
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How the hell do I actually play vikings? I know the basics of splitting up and soaking but what do I do late game? When do I stop splitting and when do I start grouping for fights?

Also which viking should I send middle at the start of the game?
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>>186018052
Depends on the maps
Generally speaking Olaf does beet mid because he's more durable and less likely to die instantly to a gank.

Late game your main job is still split pushing to put pressure, you can use the faster vikings to grab objectives and camps too. Teamfighting with Vikings is hard and will most likely get you killed. Just try to hit a single target with Spin to win and use Erik as a ranged assassin and poke and stutter step constantly.

You can deny viking deaths with Play Again and you should as much as possible, especially after you get the CDR talent.
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>>186011004
Yup! AI teaches nothing and I've learned that it is okay to play a hero you haven't in QM.

Though I do get tired of "first time Rexxar".
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>>186019074
Just sucks when the "lol first time" players are always the most intergal to your team's success or hard to play
>0 energy zarya
>one lane only abathur/azmodan/xul/sylv/gazlowe
>low healing support
>tassadar takes shield quest
>li li takes cup ult when they have 6 stuns
>kerrigan/alarak that can't combo
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Getting so fucking sick of Garrosh, not allowed to play anything that can't get into pull range or survive being thrown
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I love playing Garrosh so much
>any melee approached halfway down the lane
>scoop
>throw behind fort/keep
>free kill

Nothing feels quite as good as getting 10+ kills before 3 minutes by throwing people into towers over and over.
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>>186021020
And then losing anyway because you don't do anything aside from that.
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I feel like the lvl 1 q talent for garrosh should have an extra +200% damage done to minions on it, needing to q 3 times to get minions to 1/4th of their health is ridiculous
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>friend with 0 map awareness wants to try aba
It'll teach him, r-right guys?
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>>186021169
Only time I seem to lose as Garrosh when there are two or more mouth-breathers on my team ala forced 50. If the team is even remotely semi-compitent it's easy games.

>>186021668
He has an explicit and intentional weakness of bad waveclear. They don't want him solo laning or soaking XP, so they gave him exactly one talent to help with that (W reset talent).

You shouldn't need to waveclear ever anyway.
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>>186021720
no he'll just sit around being useless and shit then complain about his teammates
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>>186021932
At least he won't be feeding anymore
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>>186022093
feeding while hopefully learning things is more useful than picking afk slug chilling behind a fort and doing jack shit

just have him play stuff that's dumb/easy and actively attempt to improve upon map awareness, positioning/spacing, etc
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CULLING OF STRATHOLME MAP WHEN?? GAMESCOM OR ON BLIZZCON? PLZ...
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>throwing Varian into towers and watching him squirm as he's filled with lead
any better feeling?
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>>186023325
>Spend the whole game ganking Thrall

Too bad you can't cheat in the nexus lmao
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>first game against garrosh
>team getting grabbed + thrown into an uther stun
>enemy team had 5 kills in 3 min

shit, that was obnoxious. won because the enemy team focused on collecting skulls allowing us to get an exp lead.
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>>186023529
>That uneasy feeling when I'm playing Thrall and keep getting paired with best orc
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>>186024716
>thrall on enemy team
>im garrosh
>in lane against him 1v1
>he sprays and b steps as i miss a Q
>i do the same, baiting him
>allow him to root me during taunt
>throw him into tower
>he tries to escape out of the back way
>scoop him back in
YOU ARE AN ORC NO LONGER
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>not an actual event just a cosmetic
blizzard im tired of these lies
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>>186027307
I like that we have more sprays that aren't tied to specific lootboxes.

It is better than the alternative like not being able to get the summer sprays for another year.
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>>185342907
Didn't even last a fucking week.
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Offtopic but is there no sc2 general...on remaster release day?
Is the game that dead?
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>>186029349
That game is too racist to have its own general.
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>>186029553
Because Blizz is a massive cock mongling jew?
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>>186029349
Sc2 general just became really awful so people don't use it for sc2 discussion. Has the remaster been any good/faithful?
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>>186029987
>>186029987
NEW THREAD
>>186029987
>>186029987
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>>186008526
Taunt Varian
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>it's a one shitter makes a terrible pick after being told by at least 3 people that he's making a terrible pick and then that pick proceeds to lose us the game episode

Unironically had this happen four times today, the lastpick just completely shitting the bed and it's so frustrating because you have 4 competent people telling you to not get something and you do it anyways and fucking ruin it for everyone. It's so annoying I might just quit for the season, I got my master, I was thinking about pushing into GM again but with games like these I don't really feel like it.
Fucking team bunga, just one guy being unga.
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>>186029063
holy shit there's no consistency to that guys roster and he just plays meme-y shit. No wonder he dropped to silver 4.




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