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''Two Whales'' Edition

Previous Thread: >>185580689

>Life Is Strange: Before the Storm First Gameplay:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7d75ntYy_M

>Life is Strange: Before the Storm Announce Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvwDNGjEp7A

>Return to Arcadia Bay:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GONk9c3MLjA

>Release Dates:
Episode 1 − ''Awake'' 31 August 2017
Episode 2 − ''?'' (TBA)
Episode 3 − ''?'' (TBA)
Bonus Episode: Farewell − (TBA)

Life is Strange: Before the Storm features Chloe Price, a 16 year-old rebel who forms an unlikely friendship with Rachel Amber, a beautiful and popular girl destined for success. When Rachel’s world is turned upside down by a family secret, it takes their newfound alliance to give each other the strength to overcome their demons. Available for pre-order on Steam, PSN and Xbox Live.

Life is Strange is an episodic interactive drama from DONTNOD Entertainment. Set in the Pacific Northwest in the town of Arcadia Bay, the player follows the story of Maxine Caulfield and her seemingly newfound ability to turn hella gay and rewind time. At the prestigious Blackwell Academy, Max must prepare with Chloe Price for the incoming storm of returning to her hometown after five years. Available on Steam, PSN and Xbox Live.

>Official Website:
http://lifeisstrange.com

>Steam:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/554620
http://store.steampowered.com/app/319630
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/4chanlisg

>/lisg/ Permalink:
http://orph.link/lisg

>FAQs, Old Threads/Strawpolls, Soundtrack/Music & Leaks:
http://orph.link/lisgarchive (UPDATED)

>/lisg/ Community Written Fan Fiction (Continuation WHEN):
http://orph.link/story

>Compilation of Fanfics:
http://orph.link/fanfic

>/lisg/ Content Producers:
http://imgur.com/a/DOAKn

>/lisg/ sings:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=pQJgF3NToUg
http://youtube.com/watch?v=WjPsOkijFh0

>Strawpolls:
http://strawpoll.me/13590316
http://strawpoll.me/13590327
http://strawpoll.me/13186941
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Kate>>>>Max&Chloe
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BAE > bay

BFFs, Pirates, Wonder Twins, Partners in Time & Crime & Love, Fellow Dorks, GFs, Wives.
OTP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhvZxmgLfNA
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Max is #1
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>>185866056
Before Episode 5's release:
>Lol Mari's theories're shitty.It's way more than shitty to become true
>Chloe has to die thing doesn't make sense.Don't worry they will come with unpredictable story
>We're gonna learn everything about Max's powers,Rachel and Prescotts even Nathan,spirit animals..
>Jefferson knows about Max's powers
>Nathan,Frank,David or Samuel's gonna save us
>Victoria's with Max,she'll save her
>(After seeing Cemetery scene from leaks) I'm sure it'll be Williams,Rachel's or Kate's grave.
>Rachel's the doe and Butterfly and probably we'll see her in Max's dream
>Blue Jay's Chloe

After Episode 5's release:
>Mari's shitty cliche theory became right
>We visited the SF art gallery for 3 seconds. FOR 3 DAMN SECONDS
>Jefferson became a silly bad guy from Disney
>David came to save us.He's a former-soldier but he can't even fight,just listens teenager's orders. Even he doesn't know she has some time travel powers.
>Victoria's with us in the dark room.Laying there and we can talk her or not.Just it.
>Nathan get killed,Victoria too
>Nathan knew something about the storm but they cut it.
>Warren explained Max's powers(!)(thanks warryn) We found out her power causes/related with Chaos Theory and storm.It's not like we didn't know or something.
>Storm is only coming for Bay because Chloe lives in there but Max's the one who keep changes the time
>Prescotts story erased.Nobody even mention their name.
>Rachel's story fucked too.She isn't or butterfly,bluejay just spiritualdoe
>Spirit animals thing died.Blue Butterfly's storm summoner just it.
>Chloe dies again in one of endings (unpredictable) It gives you a lesson: You shouldn't have used your power.And you shouldn't play this game.Now erase your choices and cry like a bitch.
>The other ending's short but it's less cliché than other.We saved Chloe,storm's hit the town and gone.That's it
>So, once again we got the fact that our ending always will be BAE>Bay
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Some good discussions last thread. Glad people can look at Rachel and Chloe for what they are and how much the mean to each other, but without going crazy and disregarding all the events of the original game.
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>>185866454
Kate is boring.
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>>185866454
It's not supposed to be a contest. All thee girls are wonderful in their own way.
The three of them should go out to get tea/coffee and pastries.
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Is that Max?
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Max
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>>185867615
>Steph

sounds like a dude's name to me
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>>185867884
or maybe is steph as...stephanie
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>>185867750
Chloe
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>>185867615
Would Chloe know what Max looks like? Maybe if she was checking Max's FB or something (Why didn't you message her?! :( .)
Didn't notice Steph's last name. There goes my hopes that she's Stella's sister.

>>185867750
a cute

>>185867884
Short for Stephanie.
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>>185866623
>Still can't explain why she didn't rip the butterfly photo up while she got time,chance to do for it

She rips butterfly photo up in a heart beat in bae ending,pay attention not all of photos only the butterfly photo because game takes it as key moment obviously. Then metaphoritacally developers gave you this message ''there's no turning back, their story ended here and they will move on''

Then there's this question why didn't she rip the butterfly photo in bay ending.. It was standing by her side steadyingly and possibly auto-pilot self took it without any doubt; even if she didn't she has still selfie from the class so.. there's no way developers would forget this they do aware of this game's also a time-travel game. So doesn't this mean they left some biggest clues for player,us? Yes it does.
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>>185868278
Gingrich... rings like Graham.

Pricerich would be their ship name. Coincidence? Fucking Deck Nine.
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>>185867615
>Steph will be our new WarrYn
That awkward hug moment 100% will be happen while Chloe went there to take that DVD.
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>>185868169
Kate
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>>185829154
>tranny
Not sure how you figured it out, but I guess I better change my filenames.

Sigh. Here I was trying not to be disruptive...

>>185840389
They're a pain in the ass. Some of it stems from the general's longevity. Anons are used to discussing a game that's been long released and well-analyzed. My theory is that no one is used to spoilering because there hasn't been a need for sometime.

>>185850060
They could've called it schlicking, but jacked off fits the crasser aspects of Chloe's character.

>>185850376
It's a pain in the ass, but I recommend sticking around and avoiding those posts.

>>185850685
Troll harder.

>>185857453
lol. This is my first post of the day.

>>185858136
On some level Chloe knew Rachel was gone, but hadn't accepted it. Her love for Max is unquestionable. She would've left Rachel for Max had she returned earlier.

>>185860169
That picture is so funny.
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>>185868339
>Then there's this question why didn't she rip the butterfly photo in bay ending..
Well, she wouldn't kill the girl she loves without leaving any chance of being able to go back in time and change it.
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>>185868339
The fact Max didn't wind up exactly on the cliff as when she left, after her autopilot discovered she had powers and saved the girl, shows that the Bay timeline is different. And if differences cause the storm then there's one coming eventually.

>>185868452
Gingrich is real surname. Like Newt Gingrich.
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>>185867168
They're all wonderful, but Max and Chloe are more wonderful.

>>185867884
That's definitely female. Steph is short for Stephanie. Please stop posting spoilers.
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>>185868930
>lol. This is my first post of the day.
>lol
i'm sure tranny, i'm sure.
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>>185869221
Please just stop. This stuff can be just as annoying and incomfy as the actual shitposts.
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>>185869342
Nothing is as annoying as one person replying to eight times in single post, to be fair
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>>185868339
Before endings' presentation:
>Fuck that no.. no you're my number one prioritiy
>You are all that matters to me
>Don't say that I won't trade you
>Chloe I can't make this decision!

Bay ending:
>Max it's time!
>Chloe I'm so so so sorry I don't want to do this
>[...]
>I'll always love you, now get out of here please do it before I freak. And qt hipster don't you forget about me
>Never.
>*suffers as fuck,cries in bathroom alone, doesn't rip the butterfly photo''

Bae ending:
>Max it's time!
>Not anymore. *rips the butterfly photo with qt serious face*
>Max.. I'll always be with you
>Forever.

So as you can see folks, in which one she shows regret and in which one she's so certain.
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I'm not a big fan of Bowling For Soup, but this song reminds me of her.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9o1bZTSW1E

>>185869221
Um. Yeah. It is. Feel free to run a script if you're disinclined to believe me.

>>185869342
Seriously. This is the best way to get me to shitpost. Calling shitposters tranny is almost at meme level now.

>>185869727
Um, instead of spamming the thread and eating up the image limit with eight replies?
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>>185868452
>Pricerich would be their ship name. Coincidence? Fucking Deck Nine.
Cuckrich will be her surname soon.
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>>185870137
Third ending:
>Fuck this. I'm going to figure out how I got these powers and stop the Prescotts from taking over the town. Chloe. I'll be back.
>Okay TermiMax. Get to the choppa!
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>>185869342
>>185869727
keep going on defending him yeah.
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>>185867615
Wow it's like poetry
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>>185866629
And you!
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>>185866056
>''We already know that Max’s diary will be replaced with letters Chloe wrote to Max but were never sent because she gave up hope on ever being relevant to Max again.

>In a let’s play of the recently released gameplay by a German let’s player, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCG3JibBwVI the journal pages were opened for a brief moment. They reveal the design of Chloe’s version of the journal - which is quite similiar to Max’s journal design featuring scribbles, stickers and such - as well as some of Chloe’s entries. Translations of the German texts below! ''

>“April 4th

>Max, you know that I’m not going to school anymore? Like you’re not talking to me anymore?

>Fun story: I couldn’t come up with any good excuses anymore, so… I just dropped it. I just stopped going there.

>And it was alright. Noone said anything to me. Insane, isn’t it? It’s like I’m suddenly invincible. Maybe that’s the upside to be “the girl with the dead father”. Noone knows what to do with me, so everyone’s simply relieved if I stay home.

>If I just had realized this earlier. Just think of all the wasted time at school.

>P.S.: I was thinking of Pris from Blade Runner when I was jacking off. At first I thought of Deckard and how hot he is, but then Pris stole him the show. Anyway, probably doesn’t mean anything anyway. I think I only wanna have her bangs.

>Chloe, the Electric Sheep”
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>>185870687
You're the one who encourages him to act the way he does. But keep on shitposting and calling everybody who doesn't share the same opinion as you a "tranny".
Call me a "tranny" faggot.
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>tfw I pretend to be trannyfag to trigger the retards in this general
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>>185871271
Nice spoiler asshole.
>pic related

>>185870687
I take heart in the fact that my detractors are dumb enough to criticize anons criticizing me.
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>>185871271
Hey that Max is from Taylor Christensen's video!
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Saturday? It's cuteposting day already?!
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>>185871271
>tfw we can actually examine this picture
I wonder what's she gonna say...
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>>185871528
>tfw i pretend to be a bayfag despite being a obsessed baefag
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>>185871656
That's the video series I was thinking of last thread! The "asshole" Max playthrough. Maybe if I'd seen Blade Runner before I would have made the connection when I first saw those videos
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>>185871368
>calling everybody who doesn't share the same opinion as you a "tranny".
always same words, always.
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>>185871758
isn't that everyday
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>>185871782
She says "classic" if i remember right
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>>185871528
>>185871809
end your life
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>>185871528
>>185871809
>mfw false-flagging
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>>185871957

What makes you think I'm a tranny?
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>>185872015
Ha, that's exactly the response I was fishing for!
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>>185871368
>Comes here stir the shit up
>Cries about how victimized he is when people get annoyed.
Even if you're not tranny you're a troll like him. So it doesn't really change anything.
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>>185872194
.. >>185830317
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>>185872039
>>185872161
It's fun though
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>>185872031
''Stilvoll'', she says
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>>185871809
i sometimes do that to gather anti-bay arguments
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>>185871528
>>185871809
Stop. Really. Pretending to be a shitposter is just as bad as being an actual one.

>>185871782
I'm sort of looking forward to seeing Chloe come to terms with her sexuality. As long as it's not extremely explicit and the only thing they focus on. I know they will focus on other things as well like Chloe missing her father and Max, which they should pay attention to because they are important to her character development.
Though from the few hints we've seen, she realized she likes girls before Rachel.

Spoiler (Which we've all seen but I'll try to set a precedent): Take the one letter for example, if Chloe really was fantasizing about a female character then that may be a pretty good indication that she's realized she's - that point- bi/curious
Maybe Rachel was just a confirmation more than an epiphany. The latter of which was how I've thought of Rachel; her and Chloe meeting and becoming friends, Chloe slowly realizing she likes Rachel, "wait, am I gay? I think I am. Okay.", then "Oh shit, I love Rachel." and finally the bombshell "OH SHIT, I love Max!"
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>>185872783
It means ''classy''
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>>185872031
>>185872783
Translates to "classy" in a sarcastic way.

>>185871758
>>185872015
>>185872258
If the day ends in 'y', then it's a cuteposting day.
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>>185872895
>Take the one letter for example
actually at there as you can see she was still questioning why she was preferred to having fantasy over a woman rather than a man and fudged it.. curious about it.

as I said in earlier thread, she was on her way to become lesbean, and most likely Rachel will help her to expose those inner feelings of her.

and the lead-writer had already say that we'll see her sexuality's development how is she gonna realize it etc.
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>>185872015
All day, everyday

>>185872895
>As long as it's not extremely explicit and the only thing they focus on.

Based on the trailers, it's not the sole focus of the game. Chloe's sexuality is a big deal for her at that time in her life. It's one of the main focuses in high school. Her orientation will be tied to her angst, which is sad because it's linking anything besides cis-heterosexuality with despair. Lesbians deserve good lives too!

>Maybe Rachel was just a confirmation more than an epiphany. The latter of which was how I've thought of Rachel; her and Chloe meeting and becoming friends, Chloe slowly realizing she likes Rachel, "wait, am I gay? I think I am. Okay.", then "Oh shit, I love Rachel." and finally the bombshell "OH SHIT, I love Max!"

Well put. Her love for Max is the epiphany, not her Sapphic intentions.
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>>185872819
>still replying to himself
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Can't wait to see Victoria.

Honestly, I don't expect much of this prequel. I'm going to play it expecting the worse. All I want is to get to know more about Arcadia Bay and the LIS universe. I want to know more about the minor characters and of course Chloe and Rachel before hell goes loose. If they get that part done right, then I'll be satisfied.
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what other gens and boards does /lisg/ use?
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>>185873570

>Being this paranoid

lel.
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https://www.polygon.com/2017/8/4/16090980/life-is-strange-death-lgbtq-characters
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>>185873785
We've already seen this shit and nobody took it seriously, obviously.
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>>185873785
they have zero knowledge about game and its details yet they can review such so-called popular sites like that and sadly some people really taking those words as if they are the truths.

>inb4 hrr drr canon ending hrr drr I need to see sex scene between characters to see exact romance between them
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>>185873785
>polygon

Ew.
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>>185873785
as someoe who agrees with the basic promise of the argument i found this article really fucking bad.
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>>185873785
>SJWs are also bayfags

pottery
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>>185873785
>This article has proved that bayfags are whiny audience and real SJWs
another reason why not being part of 53%
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>>185874587
>>185874734
Give it a rest, Taylor.
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>>185873785
>Ani romince is mirily implied, and nivir realized bitwiin Max and Chloe
>Bay inding is mire corrict and canin inding
Read the fucking diary even if you can't understand what the hell is going on there in front of your eyes then.
And your fucking canon ending is my ass
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>>185873695
i wouldn't recommend anywhere else.
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CUTEPOSTERS WHERE THE HEAVEN ARE YOU??!!
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>>185873785
This article is terrible.
Once again people acting like they *can't* save Chloe. Yes, you can. They're just letting this concept of utilitarianism guilt them into thinking it's wrong. They're not looking at things as how Max sees them, but as how they see them and they think they're being watched and judged. They're also missing the entries in Max's journal.
Not sure what the hell their complaint even is. That there's gay characters but they're overshadowed by a hetero option and is doomed to end in failure? No to all of that.
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>>185872783
>>185873092
>stilvoll
what did she mean by that?
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>>185875574
here i come
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>>185875675
The problem is they know nothing about the game yet, ***trying*** to make point which's all non-sense and cringy.
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>>185875098
t. SJW bayfag
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>>185875574
Present.
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>>185866056
>Daily reminder that ''even'' Toby Palm confirmed that pricefield is canon,serious relationship,deeper one and more precious than cucks'
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>>185875706
It's in the German dub.
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>>185873695
The hedonists of this board promote the homosexual lifestyle on /lgbt/ when they're not cycling through images of intertwined limbs on Tumblr. If it wasn't for blasphemers like them infiltrating American culture, Max would still be going on tea dates with me.

No. I meant date as a cute and friendly term. Not an actual date. I wish...erm...I wish she would find Christ.

>>185873785
>implying they should live
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>>185876437
good..good

so since toby also came to heel, who deserves to be bullied next? how about poor man's Michel?
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>>185876679
>Evangelical Republican
trannies don't count
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>>185875574
Busy with my girlfriend
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>>185876825
hasn't he been bullied enough?
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>>185876975
Oh, no, no. It's satire. They're JUST JOKING!
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>>185876437
>warryncucks got BTFO'd by Toby
How do they even breathe after this confirmation?
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>>185875935
Yeah, they're trying to find something to be outraged over but their point falls apart when it's clear they weren't paying attention.
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>>185877450
>making the same joke every day for more than 4 months
That's not satire, that's autism
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>>185877491
believe or not they still exist and there's plenty of them out there
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>>185877928
some of them agreeing that pricefield is canon yet they are still whinning over it.
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Reminder that Jefferson did nothing wrong.
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Reminder that ^^ did everything wrong.
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>>185876437
He still says that there is any kind of romance between Warren and Max which is clear heresy. Set the man on fire I say
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>>185873785
There's no question Chloe was infatuated with Rachel.

The basic premise is sound, in that Chloe and Max didn't get to walk off into the sunset after a romantic kiss post-finishing off the bad guy. Alleging it's queer baiting when they out and out, no pun intended, had two lesbian characters is bullshit.
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>>185877957
Christian, Luc, and even Michel have always been pro-Pricefield.
Christian wrote their scenes and the diary entries, Luc said he would pick his love if in the same dilemma Mas was, and Michel has said he's glad the endings were almost evenly split because it meant a lot of people really liked Chloe and saw the love she and Max have.
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>>185878391
Nah I was the one who did chat with him, he meant there may be option but it's still weak,non-serious as you can see. However he defined Max and Chloe's one no matter what you do is stronger,outweighs it and worthwhile and developing itself.

So yeah, he finally admitted it.
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>>185877450
*he's

>>185877821
i wish they were austic. then they'd be easier to doxx.
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>>185878391
well i'm not fan of Toby facePalm but he obviously mentioned it for comparing choices. he pretty much admitted by confirming Pricefield as more serious, more stronger, non-Mass effecty and literally shitted on the other one subtly.
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Is he right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTf04qxQL80
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>>185879285
>Why I don't Want to Meet Rachel Amber
>Oh okay fans don't want to see Rachel Amber, let's delete her from the game!!!!
...
Literally who cares about it anon?
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Is this what would happen if Max tried to warn Arcadia Bay about the storm?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5777802/
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>>185878391
>admitted that pricefield is worthwile
>admitted that pricefield is serious one
>admitted that warren's option is easy to get that's why it has no measure
>admitted that pricefield is more deeper which means canon
So Toby finally admitted the facts...

This a sign of doomsday.
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>>185880120
>http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0322330/
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>>185880519

>LiS fans are also twilight fans

lel.
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>>185871271
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCG3JibBwVI
Wait are those really Chloe's letter entries or you guys are just kidding?

If that's real in which part they looking at the journal btw?
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>>185881020
6:00-6:04
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Max and Chloe could easily warn those close to them about the storm. Those people would then warn others so the word would spread.
Not everyone will believe the warnings, but it's not Max's and Chloe's fault if people don't pay attention to what's going on.
It's not even like Max thought the storm was real until she saw it with her own eyes.
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>>185881440
Thanks.

>>185871271
So those are the real translations..well jacking off while thinking Pris?!!
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>>185875574
I miss side characters like Brooke or Juliet
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>>185882054
>has good taste for having crush on Rachel and falling in love with Max
>yet has also shit-taste enough to jack off Pris
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Reminder that BtS Chloe and S1 Chloe are completely different characters.
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>>185880519
But that's not what I posted...
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Can I start posting cute pictures?
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>>185882885
It's a reference to Season 1. Chloe liked the way Pris looked. I guess the person she chatted with online was her Rachel in the AU.
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>>185883608
Did she really mention about her? can you send that dialogue here if that happened, I really want to see it.
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>>185883551
>icky vicky is the tranny faggot
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>>185883856
Anon it's hella not cool to bully trans people
Imagine if there was a tranny character in the next season
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>>185883789
I don't remember the exact dialogue, but it's in the AU scene. The Wikia, not the best source, but still, mentions it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIIgZkr6Ez0

Anyone here hyped for this game?
because I'm not
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>>185884376
>>185883789
>Cue_E4_2D_Garage_Movie_Chloe_030="Uh, I think I'm in, like, a mellow "Blade Runner" mood. I always cry at the end. Plus you know I always wanted to have cool colored bangs like Pris."

Found it.
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>>185884629
>Not supporting don't of so they can have another muh budget shit ending
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>>185882054
Rough translation:
>PS. I thought of Pris from Blade Runner the last time I cleaned the pearl. At first I tried to think of Deckard and how hot he is, but that damn Pris stole the show
German!Chloe is a treasure.
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>>185884878
>buying a game just to support the devs to make another game
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>>185884629
Nope.
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>>185884878
Meant dontnod , stupid auto correct
>>185885017
What's wrong with that
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>>185885147
T-rex arms
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>>185885203
=kek
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>>185884934
>I cleaned the pearl
errr what does that mean?

also your translation kinda adds more details now hmm
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I love Kate more than max, is that bad?
Also what is this imagination meme, I don't get it
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>>185884878
they have separate budgets and teams at dontnod
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Hey, you! Yes you, wanna take a picture with us? My girlfriend and I need to test this new camera thingy
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>>185884878
>wanting to buy this shitty game which nobody's get hyped for
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>>185884376
found it, This is actually interesting

>Chloe: You are such a geek. That's why I love you. Of course, I know a geek when I be one. See, I'm practically a human entertainment system. It would be sweet to chill out together and watch a movie, like when you'd spend the night at my house...

>Max: What do you want to watch?

>Chloe: Uh, I think I'm in, like, a mellow "Blade Runner" mood. I always cry at the end. Plus you know I always wanted to have cool colored bangs like Pris.
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>>185884629
It looks very dark but cool. I'm kind of sad they went for a fictionalized version of 1919 London.
I wanted to see realistic WW1 British Soldiers chasing around vampires. The contrast between the low class in the sewers and high society up top look neat.
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>>185885542
Yea so?
>>185885737
Where does it say nobody is hyped for it?
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>>185885363
masturbation, it means masturbation
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>>185885954
>Yea so?

that means vampyr sales will no have impact whatsoever on S2
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>>185885742
>>185884841
also this one:

>Cue_E4_2B_Garage_WakeUp_Chloe_020="I know you were beat down after the day with me. And Blade Runner is a pretty dreamy movie to watch at night. Uh, do you think Deckard is a replicant?"
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>>185886025
Enjoy your ban for off topic, you pervert sinner
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>>185885363
Euphemism for masturbating.
The translations are just from my very limited knowledge of German and using an online translator.
Kind of odd how some of the letter is hand-written by Chloe, but part is typed. I guess the typed part is what can be altered in the game. So the part about "That's the advantage of being the girl with the dead father" is the result of a choice.
Part of the game is choosing how Chloe takes the tragedy in her life. Does she act serious about it and say how much it hurts her? Or does she use them to reinforce her "I don't give a fuck/ fuck everybody" attitude?
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>>185886217
Then why do you care about it then? No need to post this game here
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>>185885954
>where does it say nobody is hyped for it?
trannies don't count
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>>185886405
Do you even care about the game or are you looking for anything lewd in it.
>>185886594
Never said they did, and that includes you too
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>>185886523
>Then why do you care about it then? No need to post this game here

I wasn't the one who asked /lisg/'s opinion about it.
Also, stop eating our image limit for no reason.
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>>185887109
>Also, stop eating our image limit for no reason.
this
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>>185887109
Did you know you can make new threads? Or are you new? Plenty of time we didn't wait til 750 and started a new thread
>>185887186
Please go back to lereddit
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>>185886405
>Kind of odd how some of the letter is hand-written by Chloe, but part is typed. I guess the typed part is what can be altered in the game. So the part about "That's the advantage of being the girl with the dead father" is the result of a choice.

Yeah I thought that too or.. simply maybe devs forgot to change the font? We'll see when game has released.
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Reading Chloe's letters and seeing her so sad/angry is going to hurt a lot.
How could such a happy and loving girl get beaten down so badly by life and become the wounded bluehaired punk we all know and love? Someone hug that poor girl.
Chloe's character arc is amazingly tragic, amazingly written, and has a wonderful resolution. She embraces her past, good and bad, and becomes a much better and happier person. All the pain and past loneliness cannot be undone, but she can have a much happier future. One with Max, her family, Max's family, and their friends.
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Bayfags hella don't like all the pricefield so I have to stop cuteposting. Sorry guys. Bye~
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>>185887594
Don't come back you cancer, /lisg/ wasn't made solely for image dumping.
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>>185883608
so it's a reference okay... but jacking off we're talking about here, man. she's definitely not just thinking about her bangs even if she slurs over it
rachel really will open her eyes i guess
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>>185887770
Yea I forgot how talking about masturbation on a diary is way more important, my bad
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>>185887340
Why rush things to start a new thread soon?
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>>185888045
jacking off*
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>>185885396
>Also what is this imagination meme, I don't get it

lurk moar newfag
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>>185888045
Actual discussing about an upcoming game > image dumping
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>>185887594
Disregard Bayfags; Amass Cuteposts.
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>>185884934
>''I was thinking of Pris from Blade Runner when I was jacking off. At first I tried to think of Deckard and how hot he is, but that damn then Pris stole him the show. Anyway, probably doesn’t mean anything anyway. I think I only wanna have her bangs.''
What the fuck.
Someone's being too gay to function
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>>185888692
"Actual discussing"
=Kek
>>185889354
Aye aye Captain Chloe
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>>185889354
Kissing cuteposting?
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>>185888094
Why not?
Who said she was rushing anyway
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https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/114660185
can you acess this thread? fireden isn't working for me at least
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>>185890057
Yea it works, must be on your end
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>>185890057
yeah, i can
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>>185889993
>she

also, this thread isn't even one day old, why do you want to start a new one soon?
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>>185889360
The next one is Rachel
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>>185890232
me on the left
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>>185890232
>>185890303
huh, weird now i can access it as well
thx anyway
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>>185890315
So I can teach you a lesson about femanons being a thing on lisg.
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>>185890232
To adventure! Out of the the saw mill. Maybe they'll walk the railroad tracks and talk, their first real conversation. Also the scene of Rachel caressing Chloe's face and inspecting the bruise if you chose to fight.
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>>185890057
Works for me.
Browsing through I am reminded of some good times, also that uncomfy shitposters are not new. Unfortunately.
This gif made me laugh in an inappropriate way.
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>>185884841
Ding, ding, ding.

>>185884629
I'm interested. Horror is one of my favorite genres. LiS had a dark aura to it. DONTnod may find their strength in morality-based horror games.

>>185889360
SPOILERS. ASSHOLE.
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>>185889360
I really am thinking more and more that Chloe is, always has been, and always will be, hella gay.
Only reason it took her so long to realize was because she was purposely trying to isolate herself.
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>>185866056
>https://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/life-is-strange-before-the-storm-interview/

>''Rachel’s not totally honest and maybe not the best person''
>“We have Chloe actually writing letters to Max, because she still misses her. She hasn’t moved on.”
>other choices matter bullshit...

--

>https://venturebeat.com/2017/08/05/life-is-strange-prequel-lets-you-decide-how-close-teens-should-be/
>GamesBeat: Is there a certain vibe the player should be getting about the relationship between the two characters? It seems romantic, but I wasn’t sure if you were deliberately going for that.

>Garriss: We’re accepting of the canon idea that—regardless of the nature of the relationship between the girls, it was incredibly significant for Chloe. Rachel going missing right before the events of the first game, that destroys Chloe. It challenges her and puts her in a really dark place where she needs Max. We’re working from that foundation. Whatever their relationship was, romantic or not, it was huge for Chloe. It was meaningful. We’re letting the player navigate the uncertainty of what that relationship is and make choices about it that could go to any number of places.

>and other choices matter bullshit...
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>>185892169
I don't know what Zak garriss smokin' but someone should tell him that this is a goddamn prequel and they are not remaking this game. If Chloe in LiS 1 had crushed on Rachel then who am I in bts to choose,pursue that? Or did I misunderstand everything?

>last sentence also shows Rachel will make her use ''hella'' word
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>>185880723
Fuck. Off. Tranny. Faggot.
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>>185892816
Sorry for bumping image limit, last pic tho
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>There's a point in the future where Chloe will hand those letters to Max.
>Max will reveal she had a lot of stuff in a diary or letters of her own that she wanted to send to Chloe but was always too afraid to.
>They will both swap and agree to read them alone.
>They will both finish, meet in the same room, have tears in their eyes, hug each other so tightly it almost hurts, apologize for everything, and promise to never be apart again.
>There will be no more tears or apologies about their past separation after that point.
>The past is the past and they will focus on the now and the future.
>They will wipe away their tears, smile, kiss, and say they should go on a date to somewhere nice.
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>>185866056
>>185892169
>Imagination lord confirmed that Arcadia Bay is a different&special town
>this new game called: Before The Storm
>so LiS universe is always take Max's saving Chloe in bathroom canon, this era also will be in a time-loop and in all universes Max'll save Chloe's life in there
>bayfags BTFO before game even ships
Even though Zak said he doesn't want to ruin any player(!) choices(!) from first game, by making this game he already cuck'd baycucks
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>>185893742
what are you smoking, tell me
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>>185892169
>>185892816
>>185893118
I like the gist of what he says and how he points out that things are complex. If he and the other really did pay attention to the first game as they claim then they know they can and can't do certain things with Rachel and Chloe.
We've only seen very little of the game so far and even the words the writers have used are vague. The idea of Rachel and Chloe both thinking of the idea of having a relationship is interesting because we know the conclusions they reach; Chloe wants one, Rachel decides she doesn't, but they both decide they definitely want friendship and won't jeopardize that.
Hard to tell what the multiple endings could be but they won't divert from the path we know things take.
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>>185893971
Bayfags' ashes.
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>>185893551
Then they discover the Dark Room and Chloe is soon shot.
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>>185893971
what are (you) smoking?
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>>185890232
To the dance floor. We've seen that.
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>>185894103
The thing I didn't get was >>185893118 in here he kinda talks like ''eh, it's evolving experience,it'll not change by one choice''

In one of them >>185892816 he talks like as if everything is up to player depenant. I seriously wouldn't give a damn about Chloe and Rachel's relationship but they're making prequel and if they ignore this simple canon thing from first game -just as pulling ambigious card for their relationship while it was pretty much obvious from first game that from Chloe's side it wasn't purely friendship feels- and act like every choices matter then I'm not gonna take this game as canon.

I don't even know how do they settle this multiple ending choices. But again I've heard same lies from Dontnod too and we know how did the game end, now these Deck9cucks acting like as I said, they are remaking the game but when the game was released we'll see all of their lies.
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>>185894912
let them advertize their famous and so-called choices matter thing,some people of course will buy this lie and believe it. when game released though,we're all gonna see it's not like that anyway.
let me give you simple examples; ''bump fist'' or major choice about ''fight'' x ''run'' results literally same anyway.
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do we have a discord channel or something?
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>>185894912
I think he was saying things won't just be binary choice. They will add up over time and culminate in an ending, which is how S1 should have been.
If they manage to do it right then it can be awesome. As long as they don't go overboard with asking every five seconds 'does Chloe like Rachel?' and as long as they don't commit to something that was never there like showing Rachel and Chloe become girlfriends.
Even without such a label there is a lot of room for exploration while staying consistent to how we know things are.
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>>185895857
we do but they don't talk about the game, so it's better to stay in general if you ask to me
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>>185895912
The thing I'm only concerned with, solid character,the character we know from first game;Chloe. I don't want them to change her or want us to change her because canonically we can't. Her feelings for Rachel also cannot be changed, but why aren't they directly saying this other than saying ''purse a relationship...'' or do they mean making them official or keeping those feelings without saying anything to Rachel is optional? I'm really confused.

>I think he was saying things won't just be binary choice. They will add up over time and culminate in an ending, which is how S1 should have been. [...] Even without such a label there is a lot of room for exploration while staying consistent to how we know things are.

Well, let's hope that they won't mess it up
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>>185896638
Chloe will always have feelings for Rachel, the choices are about does she voice them or not. How much does Chloe say or do in regards to how she feels? Does she keep it to herself in an attempt to not scare Rachel away?
Rachel will return those feelings to some extent at least early on but, as we know, nothing really becomes of it.
If I had to be honest I would say that I think they definitely slept together, maybe more than once, and flirted, but Rachel always saw it as fun while Chloe saw it as more.
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>>185897549
>Chloe will always have feelings for Rachel, the choices are about does she voice them or not. How much does Chloe say or do in regards to how she feels? Does she keep it to herself in an attempt to not scare Rachel away? Rachel will return those feelings to some extent at least early on but, as we know, nothing really becomes of it.

Yeah that's what I think and want to see too but some lead-writer's words are clashing with each other and that's what makes things confusing. He says literally same thing as we do then says something else...


>If I had to be honest I would say that I think they definitely slept together, maybe more than once, and flirted, but Rachel always saw it as fun while Chloe saw it as more.
Whoa. I mean I don't think they went that far (but you'd never know) except kissing and shit but I may agree on Rachel saw it as fun.. also garriss' interpreation about their relationship also makes you thing, as if there's a secret there
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It's Saturday. They decided to stop by Two Whales, say hi to Joyce and David, and get some burgers.
Maybe after they will go out for a walk or drive somewhere for a bit. Just relax, walk the beach barefoot at night, and look at the stars.
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>>185899260
I think there's some sexual side to it, not trying to be lewd for uncomfortable and I'll drop the topic after this post. But Chloe clearly has some some kind of wanting for Rachel.
And why shouldn't she? It's the first person she can admit she has real feelings for and the first girl (That we know of) that she has a chance to explore with. Rachel was an awakening that made Chloe realize why hooking up with guys wasn't working for her on multiple levels: she wasn't emotionally attached to them, she didn't feel satisfied in some way, and she later learns she's not into guys. Those phases ended after she met Rachel because Chloe felt satisfied physically and/or emotionally.
Rachel helped Chloe realize who she really is and it led to Chloe embracing her sexuality and being comfortable with herself.

/subject dropped
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what's max's hairstyle called?
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>>185871271
That's a bit much for me, Chloe wouldn't seriously write Max a letter about masturbating. I guess she never means to send it though. Kind of worries me how far they're going to take the Rachel/Chloe stuff sexually.
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>>185900197
a messy straight bob
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RACHEL AND CHLOE ARE GOING TO HAVE A SEX SCENE. SCREENCAP THIS
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>>185902461
nah
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>>185902461
Sex scene, in a video game, underage, between two women, in this kind of game? Deck Nine would have to have lost their mind.
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>>185900197
The Chlo-rider
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>>185900152
>the first girl
Not sure about that. We know she was a prostitute based on the condoms in her wallet. Maybe she hooked a few biker chicks who were looking for tail on the way through?
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>>185904907
>We know she was a prostitute based on the condoms in her wallet

in this nigga serious?
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>>185902821
yea, at most, it will be implied. underage sex is a big no-no for U.S. media, it's idiotic but true
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Does Victoria deserve a thread for her birthday?
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>>185909712
every character is LiS deserves a thread [Spoiler]except jeffershit[/spoiler]
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>>185911103
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>>185911103
we don't know his birthday tho
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>>185911103
even nathan?
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>>185912321
yeah, he's a good boi
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Why are you here on a Saturday night?
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>>185906880
That's irrefutable proof that she had sex for money. There's no other reason to carry condoms in a wallet. Each student on every college campus in America is a prostitute. Fraternities only recruit gigolos.
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>>185914269
>this shit mari tier ''theory''

that's why nobody likes you, trannie
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>>185912172
yes we do
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>>185912751
My opinions are limited, Discussing LiS with other fellow /lisg/ers is the only thing that can distract me from my depression and suicidal thoughts. It doesn't help that much, really, but I gotta direct my energies somewhere.
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>>185916876
Options*
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>>185914269
>>185904907
>claiming Chloe is a prostitute based solely on the fact that she had old condoms in her wallet

By your ''logic'' every girl who buy a condom is automatically a prostitute.
Seriously, stop projecting your personal life into the characters.
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>>185917285
it's bait and you fell for it idiot
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>>185917285
>taking the trannycunt seriously
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>10
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normie general
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>>185912751
I'm here just about every night. Sometimes it gets repetitive but usually something keeps it interesting.
Could do without the baiting and trolling though. Those and the ""theories""" get old very quick.
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>>185915463
Huh, never remember seeing his birthday. Not sure he should have a thread. Interesting they included his age during BtS when he's not in the game (at least visually)
Whenever we learn William's birthday, he should definitely get a thread.
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>There are people who played through the entire game, putting Max through hell and learning about all Chloe's been through, just to let them die
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>>185928704
There's feels in this one with the image of Chloe's parents in the background but is almost looks like Max and Chloe are small and in front of a picture frame
I also don't like the idea that Joyce died if that's what it's suggesting
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chlobe u so tol :o
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>>185931897
Cute picture. Love Max's dreamcatcher necklace.
If Chloe doesn't give Max one of the bullets, Max should wear that instead.
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I just moved into my college dorm today, /lisg/. It's my first year being at college and I was thinking about getting a Lisa plant for my dorm.
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>>185932868
Do it, anon!
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>>185932868
Good luck, Anon! I dormed and it was both amazingly fun and amazingly infuriating.
You should totally get a Lisa. Be sure to paint her name on her pot and water her every other day. also get a little plush bunny to keep in or near the pot.
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>Get comfy, Max. Toonami is starting. Feels just like when we were kids.
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>>185933428
>get a little plush bunny to keep in or near the pot
Good call, very important.
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>>185932868
I'm sure you'll find your Lisa, anon.
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>>185932868
Do it, also get a blue-haired qt gf while you're at it
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>>185935076
I mean my gf was thinking about dying her hair blue so...
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>>185932868
Don't neglect your studies, it's all fun and games until you fail classes and can't get a job. Not saying don't have fun, that's important too, but don't lose sight of the purpose of college, education. Unless of course you're not going for STEM, then fuck classes, they're all a joke anyway.
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>>185916876
Are you on medication? Do you excercise? Do you have any friends?
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>>185912751
I'm watching Mouholland Drive and it's boring
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>>185917285
Please note I was poking fun at my own argument.

Read this >>185914269 more carefully
>Each student on every college campus in America is a prostitute. Fraternities only recruit gigolos.

Does that sound moderately sensical?

>>185917467
Indeed.

>>185926225
Fun fact. I chose Bae first, but after looking at both endings and weighing the possibilities went for Bay. After realizing that the developers subscribed to the idiotic post-modern theory that the player should choose the meaning of the story, I now lean toward Bae and imagine the corpse on the street is Jefferson or Nathan's body. It was dragged out there to prevent him from getting a proper burial.
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>>185935853
Glad they got to Paris. Hope that butterfly's not causing them any trouble.
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>>185932868
Haha. I have a plant in my flat named Lisa.

>>185934180
This. It's a necessary measure for proper plant care.
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>>185912751
It's something to do between trying on clothing. More of a habit at this point...
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>>185866056
Is this what you people do all day in this general?
Post about your lesbian fanfiction based on a shitty western visual novel?
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>>185936470
I-is there something wrong with that?
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>>185936470
Hey. It's that poster. His name is John and he hates all of us.

>>185937001
Replying to such obvious bait.
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>>185936174
Studies have proven that bunnies are beneficial to the growth of plants
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>>185939727
stop replying to the tranny faggot
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540 Life is strange generals.

What the fuck do you people talk about for 540 generals?
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>An accurate portrayal of Chloe Price coming out to her mother
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>>185866091
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Amberprice is going to take over!
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>>185942175
Does Kate ever let anyone else in her blanket?
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>>185942385
only alice
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Pricefield will always prevail and Rachel will be their friend cheering them on (and teasing them)!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8Rh4Pd68Xk
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>I think we just made that dog our bitch... get it?

What joke am I missing?
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>>185943521
No. She's dead. haha :)
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>>185947243
"I will protect you."

>>185948276
Really?
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>>185943396
What about Lynn?

Or Vicky?
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>>185949486
of course. Dorothy too.
Kate's other sister doesn't even have a name in the game :(
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>>185950350
Poor other sister. I'm sure she and Kate love each other very much.
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>>185950678
/lisg/ should give her a name
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>>185880120

Weird...

...It's about a young woman reuniting with her best friend after a period of estrangement, going from zero to hero in high school due to her oddness and another one of her friends turns into her lover. There's even an end of the world party.

Dang. The parallels.
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>>185951159
tranny faggot
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>>185951159
Sarah Marsh?
Heather Marsh?
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>>185952326
Sarah. It's from the Bible. Heather is too close to heathen, which is what you are.

BEGONE!
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>>185953672
Leave.
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This should have gone in the OP.

http://www.strawpoll.me/13678991
http://www.strawpoll.me/13678991
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>>185917285
>>185935985
When will tranny >>185904907 kill himself anons?
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>>185900152
>And why shouldn't she? It's the first person she can admit she has real feelings for and the first girl (That we know of) that she has a chance to explore with. Rachel was an awakening that made Chloe realize why hooking up with guys wasn't working for her on multiple levels: she wasn't emotionally attached to them, she didn't feel satisfied in some way, and she later learns she's not into guys. Those phases ended after she met Rachel because Chloe felt satisfied physically and/or emotionally.Rachel helped Chloe realize who she really is and it led to Chloe embracing her sexuality and being comfortable with herself.

Rachel will surely help her realize many things and that's just one of them. After seeing that journal entry I don't know if Deck nine would go that forward .. showing sexual action between them,eh


Like other anon, I still don't get this I mean what's up to player to pursue about their relationship. Surely in canon, Chloe developed crush on Rachel but will those developers also change it and bring up choices matter bullshit while there is no way that Chloe's feelings can change otherwise it'll damage what's canon. Or they mean only pursuing 'romance and making it obvious' will be up to us? like bravery choices,being open about feelings? at least this means more reasonable than the first one.
>>185900703
>That's a bit much for me, Chloe wouldn't seriously write Max a letter about masturbating.

She's opening her feelings for Max as if she's there and telling everything about herself, but she never plans to send those letters because she thinks Max'll never call her back, or never will come back.

But desu that jacking off moment really caught me off guard... I knew that developers said we will see how she is gonna explore her sexuality but I didn't expect them to be this forward.
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>>185956876
again, don't take their interviews seriously only after we played the game we'll get our answers. Dontnod was doing the same thing and you know how did it result.
from gameplay footages, we'd already seen and they'd already proved that our choices don't so matter, they just exaggerating the point.
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>>185956876
>that pic
>more than half of players' Chloes died continuing to believe that

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>>185958418
There is only one Chloe and she is with Max.
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>>185958418
>more than half of players' Chloes died continuing to believe that
???
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>>185959039
Bay ending Chloe dies continuing to believe Max is never coming back. Bay is chosen by slightly more than half of players.
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>>185958418
>53% of people still don't aware of they will be cuck'd after that ending
sacrificing Chloe automatically means sacrificing Max, pull every grown up bullshit to me I'm not gonna fall for it. ''she will not be good without her'' .there's no way she can move on that easy considering her dialogues nearby the end, she was begging to stay with Chloe and not want to draw apart again.

this girl got time-travel powers,this girl never asked for it but saved someonelse's life in first place without having second thought, her one of her friend commited suicide, after reuniting with her childhood best friend they started to fall in love with each other and understand how do they mean for each other, Max dedicated herself to keep her loved one alive and wanted to save the world only with this girl;she was gonna make the world bow as long as she's with there with her.. these girls found some corpse in junkyard saw disgusting,horrific things,Max got kidnapt by some psycho but still was thinking saving Chloe's life, these girls suffered throughout in whole week.. and they encountered with storm dilemma at the end while they were finally together

in one of endings she erased everything and the only person she had this journey had gone. so do you guys think she'll be okay after this, and not gonna bring her girl back again while she left biggest chance behind her?
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>>185959257
>''more than half of players''
>those players encountered with this game, thanks to, money grubber SE's announcing this game as free sale,people who literally paid zero attention to game fucked up the percentages,didn't get the whole point, saw this game as some morality test and disregarded Max's feelings.
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>>185959721
If they do another season with Max, I can almost guarantee the first scene will determine if you chose Bay or Bae somehow, either save import or just asking you, and then it'll go like this:

>Bay
A week after the end of the game, Max realizes she cant live without Chloe, and decides to go back and save her, and to find another plan to save as many of the townspeople as possible without letting Chloe die

>Bae
A week after the storm, Max and Chloe have spent the whole week helping with cleanup and rescue efforts in Arcadia Bay. Max and Chloe go to Max's room in Blackwell to rest during the cleanup of the school, and Max notices her photowall, and realizes she can travel through any one of those photos and warn people. She concocts a plan to go back and try to save as many people as possible without sacrificing Chloe

The biggest evidence that points to this being true is that it means none of your choices mattered at all
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>>185960237
>that it means none of your choices mattered at all
If LiS' choices taught you something anon, it was, whatever you do the path you ended up with is the same and meets with the same consclucion.
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>>185960237
if they ever decide to make sequel for Max and Chloe (if their other game,season flops) this is what'd they do.

but also doing this would technically mean they'd accept that ep5's outcome really have logical fallacies,especially bay ending.
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>>185960237
Exactly, that'd be reasonable thing to do.

The biggest problem,flaw about endings (esp. bay) was being forced tragedy and EVERYBODY'S FORGETTING ALL ABOUT THIS IS A GODDAMN TIME-TRAVEL GAME; their insistingly wanting to give ''muh you can't get anything,muh no perfect life,muh we want to make you stuck between hardest choices,muh grown up'' message while actually you've actually got *chance* to do something and come up with the better solution.
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>>185961593
The endings only make any sense at all if you assume Max somehow loses her time powers immediately after, which is not even hinted anywhere.
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>>185961593
this pic pretty much sums ep5's writing up desu
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>>185962037
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>It seems that all hope is lost
>The Dark Lord Mychel has summoned a giant tragedy tornado made up of crashed cars, humiliating photographs and bunkers far too expensive to buy for a teenage boy
>He's tied up the people of Arcadia Bay to one side of the train tracks and Chloe to the other
>He asks Max to choose who will get slammed by the tragedy tornado
>He plans to slam both sides of the train tracks anyway
>Suddenly two mysterious costumed adventurers with long fluffy ears fly to the rescue
>The superhero duo huff and they puff and they blow Mychel and his tragedy tornado back to the decadent land of baguettes and berets
>They burn away the restraints on Chloe and the people of Arcadia Bay with their heat vision and then fly away as they receive an enormous cheer
>A great big party is thrown throughout the town
>Max, Chloe, Kate, Lynn and Frank have a private picnic with their animal friends
>Lynn is still ecstatic, wondering who those mysterious saviors were
>Meanwhile Lynn's cuddly companion Dorothy winks at her sister bunny
>Then suddenly to everyone's shock, Horny the goat starts floating in the air
>He's still munching on one of Lisa's leaves as this happens
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>>185961962
You may only think she's not gonna use them again; her ripping up the butterfly photo symbolically means she's not gonna fuck with it again and stay with her loved one.. but one action in one ending where girl doesn't rip the butterfly photo makes you really think.

And even if Bayfags assume that Max lost her powers, then this theory can be easily refuted with ''if she lost her powers then how did she used her focusing ability and her *powers* created new timeline and brought back to the reality? if she lost her powers then she'd stuck in time in oblivion, wouldn't bring herself back to the actual reality'' So no, in either endings she keeps these powers but again, that butterfly photo actions need to be taken seriously.
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>>185962037
>>185962116
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>>185962456
>Implying Michel didn't boobytrap the tunnel as well
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>>185961962
also.. Max'll keep those memories and in one of endings she'll undo her one of actions which *meant to be happen* so wouldn't her knowledge and this action change biggest events in future too? any way you cut it bay ending doesn't work man.
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>>185962639
No matter what you do its impossible to end up in a timeline where Max never time traveled and changed stuff. The butterfly photo used in the ending was the one Max took after rewinding time and answering the daguerreotype question correctly to get out of class earlier.
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>>185962037
>Train is: Storm
>Desperate lovers are: Max (the girl nearby the door) and Chloe (girl's love interest at the end of train), they desperately trying to be together...
>Door: Third solution, refusing to stucking between forcedy tragedy binary ending
>Writer/Director of this scene and who made these lovers stop thinking logically: Michel Koch
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>>185962774
I mean plebs here thinking we're making headcanons but game pretty much explains that Bay ending is the most stupidest thing to do when you look into what happened with time-travel. Actions cannot be undone, not mention Max's having this tornado vision before all of these fuckery...
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>>185963001
>I mean plebs here thinking we're making headcanons
nah they are saying that because they don't have real evidence to support their claims rather than saying you're a bad person,nitpicking even if you are giving exact evidences that happened in-game.
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>>185963001
>not mention Max's having this tornado vision before all of these fuckery...

I actually kind of think Max having the tornado vision indicates that the tornado timeline is the correct and default timeline. You'll note Max's powers only actually manifest once she's taken actions that will lead to that timeline not happening. The universe wants her to correct the timeline.
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>>185963139
>The universe wants her to correct the timeline.
Which's logically impossible because she'd already made changes and seen everything. It's impossible to create pure timeline in bay ending while changes had already made.
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>>185962774
>>185963139

we know that ''Dontnod's rules'' only blaming Max's actions in bathroom stupidly and ignoring whole previous fuckery; also if storm was really obsessed with one girl's existence then it would've gone just right when it got rid of her somehow when just as train hit,or after psycho's killing her,or in bae ending storm wouldn't have gone until it finishes her job with Chloe when it got chance,but it has gone in there.

it was still coming however, after jefferson killed her. (this also means in Bay Chloe could've ended up in a coma but storm wouldn't got triggered,since it was only obsessed with bathroom moment)

Max's very very first vision where the lighthouse collapses heavily implies that; and when you considered she also didn't even use those powers,doesn't even aware of if she could time-travel, the tornado was the first and the last -playable- scene in the game,the story repeating itself and the town destroyed.
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>>185871271
>>185882054
>>185884934

My german friend gave me exact translation:

>''Max, you know that I don't go to school very often anymore? Just how you don't talk to me a lot anymore?

>Funny story: I couldn't think of a good excuse,so... I didn't come up with one. I just stopped going, and it was okay, nobody said anything to me,crazy,right? It's like all of a sudden, I'm invincible. Maybe that's the upside of being ''the girl with the dead father.'' Nobody knows what to do with me, so they're all relieved when I stay home.If only I had found out sooner. Just think off all the time I wasted in school.

>P.S. I thought about Pris from Blade Runner the last time I polished my pearl. At first I thought about Deckard and how hot he is, but then Pris stole the show. Whatever, probably doesn't mean anything. I thing I just want her bangs.
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>>185967123
>I don't go to school very often anymore?
okay this one makes more sense.
we were questioning about why the hell decknine said she doesn't go to school while she was actually going there in gameplay footage.

>I polished my pearl
there are many alternative words for **that** action, eh?
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Another prove that all fangirls in tumblr are retarded, Nathan apologists are technically warryncucks that faggot hunilek,as you can see
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>>185967964
>hunilek
he's tumblr's psycho major,warryncuck. does anything to defend his crackship. in her blogshits she'd defend nathan,even jefferson, but always flips shit on chloe 'cuz of the getting butthurt by its being canon relationship.

i've also read some comments on there, someone told ''who murdered someone and continued kidnapping all girls in game then?'' and apologist said ''so what? hurr who killed Frank then ?!!'' (and no matter how stupid choice,writing that scene was; Chloe didn't do it intentionally,only wanted to save Max's life in there and also was ready to go to police and suffered as fuck) ...i have nothing to say really.
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>>185968408
>>185967964
>''who got involved with murdering someone and continued kidnapping all girls in game then?'
> ''(((((so what?))))) he's a severely mentally ill boy who was neglected by his father and abused.....''
This is really creepy.
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>>185968630
Tell me about it
>you aren't allowed to be upset after your dad dies and your best friend moves away
>but you can go murder people because verbal """abuse""" 'n shit
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>>185967964
When was Chloe actually manipulative? I always see people whine about her being highly manipulative but I never actually see any examples.
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>>185967964
>warrencuck/nathan fangirls
>''can't give Nathan a happy ending''
>''but you can give me an entire game about Chloe's ''manipulative'' ass''
uwot?
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>>185969685
People looking for reasons to hate her so hard because they don't know what character development means. As you can see even they can defend the most fucked characters over her.

At the start of the game she was being childish;thinking abandoned again,thinking her step-dad was being bad,got hurt by Max's not calling her,trying to trust her that she'll got her back again.

She made mistake by blackmail asshole rich kid Nathan but actually that guy came out as psycho.. but the most important thing is she hurt herself rather than people around her. She's the type of person who says,does stupid shit when she was in rage for example after she found out Rachel was banging with Frank because she was trusting Rachel more than anything and after feeling betrayed she was overly mad and even blamed everyone, even her father,the person she values the most. Then after time passed she regretted everything she said and apologised. Still continued to keep looking for Rachel also.

People also blaming her for being mad and losing temper after this girl found her friend's corpse at junkyard and found evidences about that rich kid's, whose family owned the town, involvement about this issue.

I mean if I were in her shoes, no matter how stupid it was I'd dedicate myself to kill those fuckers too. And she wasn't even forcing Max to come with her,

>Cue_E5_6A_Parking_CHChloe_Phase01_Chloe_043="Then it's Jefferson's turn to die now. I understand why you don't want to do this, and I won't blame you for not coming with me."

That was the point of parking lot scene. If you be honest to her and tell her everything she understands. (even Max says herself that she appreciates honesty)
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>>185969685
those people acting like they stopped playing at the half of ep2. can't see any character development

i wonder if they even pay attention those things which Chloe confessed at the end.
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>>185969289
He made one phone call at the end and phew! to all of those fangirls, all of sins magically had been covered up and he deserves a happy ending, he doesn't deserve to be in jail.

But Chloe? forget all about what did she do,her apologises, what she had been through and her love for Max. She doesn't deserve anything
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>>185967964
the person on the right is whiny ignorant cuck who always cries about how people disagreeing with her opinions, so i didn't get surprised to see her in there.
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>>185971203
>Bayfag Chloe haters dont realize that in their story, Chloe is the hero of the game.
>Max didnt even consider Bay till Chloe brought the idea up, and refused to do it until Chloe begged her
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>>185972275
gib back thrace
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>>185967964

>I, too, agree that nathan, a severely mentally ill boy who was neglected by his father and abused by both him and another father figure (jefferson) deserves better.

man i hate it when people always defend nathan so much and forget what he did, yeah i get it he was mentally ill and that could've been treated well instead he got used by people like Jefferson, but it doesn't excuse the fact that he drugged girls and committed a murder he never knew about (bae ending) the way i see it; nathan was a murderer and a victim to his own brain, he clearly knew what he did was wrong (the voicemail scene proves that). so he can get sympathy but he is not an angel he's not kate marsh and he couldn't avoid the consequences of his own actions.
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>>185972342
Nah they think THEY are the hero only, THEY saved the world THEY made the greater good choice −while they were sitting on the chair− where they letting MAIN CHARACTER'S LOVED ONE die without thinking her wants and ignoring her pleads to be with that someone at the end.

Literally who cares about the girl who's bleeding in bathroom,died while she was still thinking she was abandoned,became hero unknowingly; − and who cares about the girl who just lost her the person she loves and her mental state will be fucked up as fuck.. she's grown up afterall.
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>>185972597
that's what are we talking about, but those fangirls wouldn't understand this.
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>>185972597
>he clearly knew what he did was wrong (the voicemail scene proves that)
He knew Jefferson was coming to get him so he *realized* that he was making mistakes. Voice mail makes you feel bad for him but that's all, doesn't literally cover up all of his sins because he fucked up and he knows that.

If he was aware of he was making mistakes very back then he'd go to police by himself rather than dosing +2 more girls, wouldn't be so cold-blooded and at least would show some emotion after Kate committed suicide.
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>>185967123
>I polished my pearl
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>>185942175
>>185942385
>>185943396
>>185949486
>>185950350
Kate wrapping her family in a comfy blanket DLC when?
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>>185974384
NEVER
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>>185972468
Why is Rachel looking like a trans in every single picture?
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>>185974993
You are just projecting
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>>185975241
That was a serious question.
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Chloe is a lucky girl.
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>>185976619
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>>185974627
But it'd be so cozy!
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>>185976619
Idd.
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>>185967964
>read the left one's description
>''Making an attempt at navigating life. Failing mostly''
At least ''she/her'' knows that.

Fucking cringe man.
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>>185897549
I don't think they slept together, Chloe has too much of an idealistic view of Rachel is season 1, of they had sex I don't think she'd hold her up as this perfect being like she did.
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sunday morning
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>>185974627
The all american zombie family!
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>>185976619
>tfw nobody will love you as much as Max loves Chloe
>>tfw nobody will fall in love with you enough to prioritize you over everything
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>"I'm looking forward to the day when we can just go on a road trip to Portland."
>Storm is wiping out the town
>bae thinks about going on road trip with Chloe
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>>185980638
We are not creatures of sin, banished from heaven and hell to walk the Earth for eternity. Ours is righteousness.
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>>185980668
I imagine not.
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Describe a Life is Strange character that isn't Chloe or Max
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>>185980668
Someone out there does. You may not meet them in this life, but they would sacrifice everything for you.
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>>185981798
>meanwhile storm was eating the town, Max faints and starts to see a nightmare
>however, she only concerned with the only one part and it was seeing Chloe with other people,feeling inadequate and getting jelly over it, and her latest thoughts only focused on it and questioned her feelings about Chloe if it's sth more while it was obvious from her subconcious

whenever Chloe comes into the picture, Max just uh loses her mind and becomes denial about what is happenning on background. yeah yeah, i just described love...
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>>185982172
>>185982327
>>185982758
Tranny faggot.
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>>185982758
Mr. Plinkett review on LiS when
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>>185983814
Hopefully, never.
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>>185983109
Only 2 out of 3.
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Look at this cancer

>The final decision is not a hard one if you are of a logical mindset.... Let me just say if you saved Chloe and let Arcadia Bay be destroyed, you are a selfish, genuinely bad person. The universe dictates that Chloe must die. You'd rather go against that destiny and let HUNDREDS, if not THOUSANDS of people die a horrible, painful death? Yeah, right. Even after the tornado passes, why would the universe not still try to kill Chloe in perhaps even more devastating ways? Even larger and more catastrophic natural disasters could happen as a result.

https://www.reddit.com/r/lifeisstrange/comments/6tcc0w/all_long_a_critical_review_of_life_is_strange/
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>>185986938

He's correct tho
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>>185986938
Tip: Stop spreading this cancer.
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>>185986938
>The universe dictates that Chloe must die.
>Even after the tornado passes, why would the universe not still try to kill Chloe in perhaps even more devastating ways? Even larger and more catastrophic natural disasters could happen as a result.
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>>185983814
"Life is Strange is quite possibly the worst video game movie ever made by a human. And while I haven't played any other video game before, just playing this one have convinced me to never play one again. Why is it so bad you asked? Well, it's going to take a while to explain because pretty everything in it is wrong. Now you might be asking yourself,.why would an old alcoholic murderer play a video game made for little girls? Well...I can explain that...you see..I'm a sucker for coming of age movies and I always wanted to be a high school girl so I thought this might be good. Oh boy was I wrong."

"Anyways, we get to the big dumb ending. Where Max is forced to make a decision. Either save her rebel punk lesbian girlfriend who has been selfish and manipulating her all week long or choose to sacrifice her to save the town and save hundreds of people's lives from the tornado that was caused by Max saving her in the bathroom. Well the choice is clear.....SO LONG ARCADIA BAY! I HOPE YOU ALL BURN IN HELL!"
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>>185987263
you're tranny tho
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>>185986938
>You'd rather go against that destiny and let HUNDREDS, if not THOUSANDS of people die a horrible, painful death?
hundreds.. thousands.. hmm
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>>185987957

Nope.
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>>185987263
No, he isn't.
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>>185988503
Okay. >>185872194
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Friendly reminder that the rock cover of Obstacles is incredible and warrants regular reposting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-zQtYmFCb0

>>185988176
That's the beauty of imagination.
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>>185988176
should have been a black hole or a tsumani or a meteor desu
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>>185986938
Feel free to send this post to plebbt, but I can't deal with reading comments in there. Only read OP.

>The final decision is not a hard one if you are of a logical mindset.... Let me just say if you saved Chloe and let Arcadia Bay be destroyed, you are a selfish, genuinely bad person.
Their claims never change. Wanting to save ''someone you love'' makes you selfish and bad person.. alright.

>The universe dictates that Chloe must die. You'd rather go against that destiny and let HUNDREDS, if not THOUSANDS of people die a horrible, painful death? Yeah, right. Even after the tornado passes, why would the universe not still try to kill Chloe in perhaps even more devastating ways? Even larger and more catastrophic natural disasters could happen as a result.

Okay now this person literally didn't give anything in his first comment to prove this theory just as I planned. Now he needs to answer these:

1)If Max didn't destined to use her powers then why did she see first vision BEFORE she uses those powers
1)If universe really wanted Chloe to die then why did it give this powers to Max just when she got chance to save her life at right moment?
2)If universe really wanted Chloe to die, then why it didn't stopped coming after finished its job when Jefferson killed Chloe in one of alternate reality? (this means even if train killed her etc. storm'd be still coming on Friday)
3)Considering developer's very first intention was putting Chloe to the coma, and also they literally didn't change anything about time-travel plot.. his also pretty much explains their intention is only focused on bathroom actions.
4)If universe really wanted to kill Chloe this hard, in Bae ending, why storm stopped,gone without killing Chloe while it could've killed her easily with lighting or some other shit?
5) Why none of Bayfags avoid to talk about girl's refusing to rip the butterfly photo in bay ending but in bae she rips it in a hearbeat in save chloe ending?
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>>185989776
those disaster would be more powerful than Michel's shitty,unable to destroy buildings exactly,so-called magical EF6 tornado.
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>>185989784
>5) Why all* of Bayfags avoid to talk about girl's refusing to rip the butterfly photo in bay ending but in bae she rips it in a hearbeat in save chloe ending?
because that'd damage their ending decision,greater good choice:(((
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>>185986938
>Even after the tornado passes, why would the universe not still try to kill Chloe in perhaps even more devastating ways? Even larger and more catastrophic natural disasters could happen as a result.

Max's destiny was getting these powers to save her in first place. But universe is sending tornado to make her pay this price from that action,not for erasing that girl from timeline or anybody, it was only coming to town to gain its own balance. That was the fucking obvious point I mean.

And also if anything, the only ending you are ignoring those changes and acting retard is bay ending.Its message is:changing the past is bad:) (This is what Michel said)

However, you've already made changes in past,that fucking photo also leads you to second-time rewind bathroom,while ending was telling you that using your rewind power leads you to bad things; you are playing gamble and using your power to ''fix(!)'' things. There are many fuckery going on in this ending than the other one. So how can you give me guarentee that storm will not come after **this** ending?
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Pricefield routing for the day

>>185979107
Wake up and have breakfast.
>>185975872
Once full of energy, go hiking and find a beautiful view to take photos.

Come home. Take a bath/shower and then relax.
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>>185991629
wtf for a second i thought it was tracer behind max
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Once again I read Bay comments and am baffled by the stupidity.
>Refusal to see things from Max's view
>Arguing from a standpoint that it's like Final Destination and Chloe WILL die
>"You're a terrible person and killing thousands of people"
>Saving Chloe is selfish
>"Writer's intention was for her to die"
>"Longer ending means it's the right choice"
Two years have passed and it's still the same points that are easily dismissed or debunked by evidence in the game.
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>game simply blames that Max's actions caused this storm
>somehow, maybe with miracle or with some stupid ginger haired hack writer's and his self-insert help.. characters decided to Max's bathroom actions caused this storm and solution is letting Chloe shoot there
>sacrifice chloe ending
>whole logic is based on changing things is bad and ties up with Max's going back into time in bathroom
>oh wait, also this ending needs you to re-use your power,fix your mistake by going back into time again to save town (ps. with a photo where changes had already been made)
>so let's also pretend like resetting the entire week, erasing the current timeline and universe will have no consequences to the space-time continuum and will fix the storm that was caused by the very same power that you will use to fix everything
>inb4 I don't care about evidences! all supernatural stuff erased in bay ending but storm will come after bae even I can't explain shit!!
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>>185992636
>"You're a terrible person and killing thousands of people"
>Saving Chloe is selfish
>"Writer's intention was for her to die"
>"Longer ending means it's the right choice"

All of these are valid arguments.
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>>185991823
Nope. Just Chloe.
But here's a Tracer Max.
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>>185991823
Tracer and Max have a lot in common.
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>>185992784
They aren't.
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>>185992784
Then you are terrible at debating.
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>>185992636
Two years passed and none of things that bayfags saying during the arguments are revelant with game.
If you even ask ''do you have any proof to back up those theories of yours?'' they will repeat the same thing again and again, and will refuse agreeing with what happened in-game.
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>>185992876
Part of me thinks that Lena is Max's and Chloe's daughter from another dimension. The British accent is all fake! She was born in Portland!
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>>185992784
Get a treat treat tranny
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>>185993469
>>185992876
>>185992847
>>185991823
I wanna play OW with my fellow /lisg/ers
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>>185993684
Stop this.
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>>185989784
From a logical perspective Bae makes more sense. There's no denying the fact that the storm visions started before her powers. The rewind at the beginning defied the rules set forth by the time travel mechanics in the rest of the game. Her photo on the cliff scene was from an altered timeline.

My biggest gripe is that the story reinforces the pedantic fatalistic belief that a single action defines the rest of time. Butterflies fluttering on the Mongolian Steppe in the 9th century did not impact the killing of Franz Ferdinand and the outbreak of WWI.

There's no reason not to save Chloe. Max uses her powers for good. Saving Chloe is the best option.
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>>185993897
>>185994127
Stop falseflagging
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I've heard that this DVD girl, Steph will really have crush on our main character in BtS.

Our theories were right.
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People who save Chloe are probably very lonely irl, so they form an unusually close relationship with that fictional character.
Normal well balanced people choose the bay ending, because it is morally superior in every possible way.

If you chose to save Chloe I feel sorry for you and I hope that you will find real friends so you won't be so lonely.
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>>185994738
where is the proof?
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>>185994757
stop with the false flagging dude, it's not healthy
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>>185993897
Thank you.

Playing Life is Strange awoke something in me I could no longer deny. Seeing the way Chloe lived her life gave me the courage to live mine. Is it okay to mock someone who came out as a lesbian after playing Life is Strange?

Mock me for my trolling or unsubstantiated theories, but focusing on my dysphoria is lazier and less creative than what you accuse me of being.
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>>185994757
>morally superior in every possible way
Little person with little mind detected.
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>>185994301
That wasn't me. Stop falling for easy bait.
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>>185994757
>Normal well balanced people >>185972275
>>185967964 >>185986938 choose the bay ending
>it is morally superior in every possible way
un-doing the action intentionally where you saved someonelse's life is also morally superior? hmm. it'd be pretty easy for you to kill your loved one then
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>>185994738
Okay. Not really worth much as long as she isn't cringy.
I'm sure a fair amount of people crushed on Chloe.
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>>185995295
This was meant for>>185995063

But the other post wasn't me either. I'm not the only one who finds namecalling boring or repetitive.
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>>185994757
>Normal well balanced people
I can't believe he just called tranny faggot kind of people as ''well balanced people''
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>>185995162
>Prioritizing your own well being and selfishly saving the person you love the most instead of prioritizing the well being of thousands of people and saving them and their loved ones

There's LITERALLY no arguing that, you can't win -- saving Arcadia Bay is morally superior to saving Chloe and that is a FACT.
Even a child could understand this, sadly it seems to be hard for some lonely adults to admit. Stop living in denial and admit you're a selfish immoral person for saving Chloe.
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>>185994757
>>185995160
>>185995295
>>185995441
>>185995525

Since you're here I need to ask. When will you kill yourself or stop trolling?
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>>185995413
Once she stops acting like a bitch to Max, it's pretty easy. She's an endearing character with a rough, blue collar charm.

It'll be ironic if Chloe is friend zoned by Rachel while friend zoning Steph before Max friendzones Warren in pursuit of Chloe.
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>>185995441
when i said it was you, tranniecunt? holy shit, you're so desperate for attention, aren't you?
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>>185995525
>There's LITERALLY no arguing that
Funny, because it is one of the oldest arguments in moral philosophy. But I'm sure that won't deter childs like you from throwing around words like literally and superior in a context you couldn't hope to understand.
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>>185995525
>you can't win
>that is a FACT
you're making a good argument.

however this game wasn't some morality test,let alone for cold-blooded fucks like you. intentionally letting your loved one also cannot be supported as ''morally'' good choice because it includes ''death''. there's nothing ''morally'' right if that thing includes ''death'' or ''no-self sacrifice''
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>>185987263
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>>185995645
I only posted the middle three comments. Grow up. Not everyone thinks like you.
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>>185995873
>for cold blooded fucks like you
Pretty rich coming from someone who consciously caused the death of thousands of people just so she could save her bff.

You're a disgusting mass murderer, you're worse than Ted Bundy or Wayne Gacy.
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>>185995989
It is painfully obvious whenever you are posting. Seek help.
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>>185994757
>>185995525
Whatever you say normie.

So you wouldn't sacrifice your everything in order to save your loved one, and would ditch her to be a fucking moral-god?
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>>185996037
yeah you should get back to /pol/
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>>185995525
Why are you posting here and not out having your organs harvested so you could save multiple people?
One life vs many, even a child could understand this.
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>>185996163

No, I wouldn't because I understand that I'm not the CENTER OF THE FUCKING UNIVERSE.
I take other peoples lives and feelings to account as well. The people in Arcadia Bay were HUMAN BEINGS just like you, with their ambitions, hopes and relationships.

But here you come along and say "Whatever, they're not me so I can just murder them all so I can be with my childhood friend". You're a DISGUSTING PERSON.
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>>185996037
>Still can't answer that what'd he do if he had to choose between his loved one or some town
>Also ignoring Max's feelings,blaming her for everything
>Making retarded arguments about THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE DIED while tornado couldn't even destroy shitty buildings
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PLEASE. Stop accusing everyone posting of being the same person and please stop blogging.
If you've really seen some kind of light then good for you but just post like a normal person. Don't fall for bait.
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>>185996349

>I'll just tell him to go back to /pol/ because I have nothing to say

Lol, you're so silly. I didn't even say anything remotely /pol/. You're the one being /pol/ i.e literally Hitler for killing thousands of people just to save someone who's important to you.

>>>/pol/
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>>185994757
>People who save Chloe are probably very lonely irl, so they form an unusually close relationship with that fictional character.
>fictional character

>>185996448
>The people in Arcadia Bay were HUMAN BEINGS just like you, with their ambitions, hopes and relationships.

...so people in Arcadia Bay weren't fictional characters? and you're not being autistic right now?
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All of the Bay arguments seem to forget that Max never asked for any power and didn't even know who she saved in the bathroom.
All she saw was a dream of a storm, then saw girl in trouble, she tried to speak out, and for some reason she was given a power in that moment and rewound time.
Her "selfish" action was saving who she thought was a stranger. But no good deed goes unpunished, I suppose.
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>>185996584
>Still can't answer that what'd he do if he had to choose between his loved one or some town
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>>185996448
Why don't you kill your mother and donate her organs to your local hospital, you DISGUSTING EGOIST. Is her life literally worth more to you than all those lives that could be saved that way? How selfish and immoral.
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>>185994738
girl warren
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If this is some person who really chose Bae false-flagging, please stop. The arguments have already been honed enough.
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>>185994757 >>185995525
>>185996037 >>185996584
Morally right choice would be killing some ignorant cucks like you, for the sake of prosperity
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>>185895912
That's my biggest complaint about season 1, nothing you did in the game matters because you choose the ending 1 or 2 regardless. That's the one place where shouldn't have been a binary choice.
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>>185994874
Someone on se's discord chat said it

>>185995413
Surely.

>>185996928
If she gets cuck'd always, yeah.
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>>185997423
It doesn't matter if choices don't matter because characters are solid, even if you influence mc she ends up with having same feelings. That's what makes this game good, only if developers dontnod stopped telling that lie but deck9 still continues on choices matter bullshit.

Also the retarded thing was getting stuck between the most illogical binary choices for the sake of tragedy, while we'd millions of ways to try something better.
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>>185994738
>>185996928
this dialogue will 100% happen then:
>''So you're hypersensitive?''
>''Awch it sounded awful when ya said that''
>''Err. How so?''
>''Hypersensitive usually means won't be having scissoring with ya''
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>>185998050
Lol.

What's the steph equivalent of going ape?
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>>185994738
she looks like a character from the sims
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>>185994738
>inb4 ''my'' Chloe was in love with Steph not Rachel
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>>185997423
If the endings made sense and were fleshed out then maybe a binary choice wouldn't have been so bad. Having two well developed endings instead of three or four lacking ones.
My biggest issue was everyone saw the endings coming, most said they didn't like those ending ideas (and we know DONTNOD was watching fan reactions because that's the whole reason they added in Kate in episode 4), but DONTNOD persisted with that path and did nothing to convince us those two options where the only ones.
There were many courses of actions and even if not every single one was explored, they could have definitely explored more solutions. Even just having Max make a choice after the storm and after she and Chloe have seen the damage.
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>>185998637
>c-chloe will you be my nuts?
>hm? dude sorry what I was texting with Rachel lol
>oh.. n-nothing heh.here um here's your DVD!
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>>185998637
>>185998782
>>185998050
I hope someone from Deck Nine team lurking on this thread right now.
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>>185998749
>My biggest issue was everyone saw the endings coming, most said they didn't like those ending ideas
and we already decided to save Max's loved from very start, episode 1's release since the other one would be even more stupid.
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>>185996553
?

>>185998417
>>185998198
>>185998050

Oh dear. Yes. This will happen.
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>>185999398
>>185999398
shit, one my posts is in there
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>>185996448
you're not, it's all about max and what she thinks, and not YOU, i always notice that bayfags don't mention the max's diary because if they did, then thier argument is instantly invalid.
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>>185998417
pretty much sure, those people will be obviously warryncucks that who doesn't want to accept that chloe's all for max
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>>185998749
I mean more like the game picks the ending for you based on your previous choices
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>>185999575
really? which one
it's good to see oldfriends' coming back y'know?
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Reminder that Victoria's birthday is tomorrow
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>>185999852
Nah, it wouldn't work with this game.
But only problem with endings was their being forced tragedy, not choices' not matter or anything.
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>>185999398
WHY DID IT ALL HAVE TO GO SO WRONG?
First episode I played when it came out was Episode 3 and after that, and discussing where things could be headed with /lisg/, I decided I would save Chloe.
>Those "tester anons"
I had forgotten about them and their lies, we're already seeing their kind here again for BtS.

>>185999575
I don't see any of mine in there. At least any that I remember.
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>>186000114
>we're already seeing their kind here again for BtS.
I'm not tester but I wasn't lying in here >>185994738
, I was telling what have I heard don't get me wrong.
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Will this game help me get a girlfriend?
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>>185998198
"Hey Chloe, I heard you like skating, so let's grind!"
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>>186000114
>I decided I would save Chloe.
I decided I would save Chloe when I saw 'On the Road-Ending' from leaks after anons here leaked those during Episode 1

>>186000365
^^also this
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>>185960116
>''more than half of players''
>those players encountered with this game, thanks to, money grubber SE's announcing this game as free sale
implying Bae was over Bay in percentages at any point in time ever.
At most I remember it being 49 - 51 split the same day or shortly after release
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I love you guys
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>>185999852
That would have been the best way to do it if the endings were dealing with the natural and not some crazy disaster that cannot be explained.
If the endings were simple stuff like:
>Go on a date with Chloe
>Visit the cemetery with Chloe to see William and Rachel and comfort Chloe as she thanks them for all they did for her
>Go to the movies with Warren
Or whatever other ideas you have that don't bring the focus of the endings onto the use of Max's powers.

Having the storm be the focus of the ending made it impossible to have endings you didn't choose. Not unless you really wanted to have clear "Good" "Neutral" and "Bad" endings like
>Good - Max saves everyone by using her knowledge of the week
>Neutral - Storm happens and some people die
>Bad - Chloe dies and Max deletes the entire week
That stuff would have to be measured by how observant you were during the game. Did you notice the right clues? Did you talk to the right people and make the right choices? Stuff like that.
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>>186001039
>ending the game by going to the movies with Warren
wow what a twist
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>>186001254
Is the movie the new blade runner 2049?
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>>186000930
?
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>>186001254
They'd watch it, he'd drop Max off at the dorms, and Max would text Chloe and go over to her house for a sleepover.
Max makes it clear that she wants to go to the movies with Warren because she wants to see the movie and because she wants to hang out with her friend. That's it.
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>>186001039
It didn't even need detailed shit this much.

ALL DONTNOD HAD TO DO WAS ENDING THE GAME WITH REASONABLE ENDING WHERE THEY DON'T MAKE PLAYERS STUCK BETWEEN THOSE FORCED TRAGEDY BINARY CHOICES AND DIDN'T MAKE THOSE GIRLS SUFFER
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>>186000562
no, in fact, playing it and watching pricefield together will only make you feel worse
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>>186001553
still it doesn't suitable for being an ending, doesn't even give any deep message.

for example I'd prefer them their visiting Rachel,William's grave, summing up what happened throughout in crazy week. then next scene should be where those two are confessing their love for each other,saying they'll always have each other's back. then.. maybe their spending time with her friends; kate,warryn..
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>>186001945
>We don't get to see a few weeks after everything settles down how Max and Chloe are pretty much Blackwell celebrities and everyone is rumoring about them and their relationship
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Will we ever see chloe making this tape in BtS?
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>>186000930
On steam, bae was 54% at the very first day, when people who had been waiting for this game since its release.
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>>186001553
>Max makes it clear that she wants to go to the movies with Warren because she wants to see the movie and because she wants to hang out with her friend. That's it.
She changed her plans. >>185981798
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>>186002065
Oh there's tons of ideas that could have been done and a lot of them would be effective endings.
Those three were just the first I thought of that reflected some consistent way you played the game (You took up Chloe's romantic advances and made Max flirt with her, you were supportive of Chloe and tried to help her mature while not enabling her poor behavior, you took the pro-Warren options)
I actually think visiting the cemetery like that would be a great part of an epilogue. In general I wish the game ended with a montage like the first two episodes did. Showing scenes of what the characters are doing and giving hints about where things are headed.
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>>186002151
>I wonder if Chloe would ever make me a mixtape

oh poor Max, she's jealous of Rachel
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>>186002341
They and their friends should all just go to the drive in. Max and Chloe in the truck, Warren and some others in his car, maybe Victoria has a car, or they could get the school to approve taking the bus and have David drive.
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>>186002537
>(You took up Chloe's romantic advances and made Max flirt with her, you were supportive of Chloe and tried to help her mature while not enabling her poor behavior, you took the pro-Warren options)
and I'm glad that at least, Dontnod didn't pull this bullshit and no matter what you do Max ended up having feelings for Chloe.
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>>186002537
We don't like endings because it was the most stupid consclucions not because they're not having choice variations though.
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>>186002810
Yeah, Max always developed/realized feelings for Chloe. I'm glad they made Max a defined character as well and not someone who is drastically influenced and defined by a few choices, it would feel so artificial then.
The way they handled Max's character and the others were great, with the exceptions of the few times when characters were demoted to exposition deliverers. It worked extremely well and if they can do it again for S2, while also improving the story consistency and endings, then the sequel will be good. It still won't have Max and Chloe though so there will be something missing, but they got their ending and I guess there's hope for S3 if it ever happens.
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Would /lisg/ be okay if dontnod makes a real blank slate character in S2? instead of a defined one like Max...
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Guys, I need to share with you something.

Lots of people thinking that not kissing Chloe is disabling romance between Max and Chloe. Nah, Toby told me that it isn't disabling and if player made enough certain brownie points (even if they kissed cuck) they can still kiss at sac-chloe ending,but he also told me it's about making Max encourage for it. So this really proves that either version of latest journal entry implies romance between them, and player also encouraged Max enough she'll have guts to kiss.

++Max's seeing Chloe's changing Max's photo as background is kind of thing that Chloe gives encourage,brownie point for Max. Which also implies that Max doesn't get jelly over their relationship,Chloe's adoration for Rachel platonically.
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>>186003321
indeed.nightmare already implied that Max wasn't some blank-slate character.

my problem was only about ending choices desu, was not ''ugh why this game didn't end up with rpg choices?!!'' I wanted to have reasonable binary choices rather than shit-writing,baby's first cliché time-travel

>>186003549
nope.
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Alright fags, prove me wrong, Chloe is straight and she likes Mr Jefferson. Here's the proof
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>>186003549
well yeah that's one way to ruin a game and it's community.
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>>186003814
>tfw Dontnod cuck'd warryncucks so so bad
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>>186004196
..Then Max stole the show.
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>>186004196
Straight girls don't dare other girls to kiss them.
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>>186004196
>Chloe is straight

nigga, she's the biggest lesbo in the whole game
at least the ''Max is straight'' thing makes more sense
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>>186004503
What's this then
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>>186004196
Chloe is as straight as a circular rainbow
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>>186004642
2 seconds later she completely forgot about his existence
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>>186004196
>Was trying to make Max jelly because of her very first dialogue where she blurted out she came for her favourite teacher Jefferson, Chloe became angry
>tfw it actually worked and Max interpretted it as her nightmare, scared of Chloe's being with someonelse rather than with herself.
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Also she had previous relationship with guys
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>186004642
>Moral choice
lel you're not getting any more (You)s until you try harder
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>>186004872
Love you too
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>>186004642
>girl cuts him off curtly when he was about to say something
>deletes the reality
>warren gets cuck'd after 2 secs, after parking lot scene and dream haze
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>>186004848
>I was so glad Rachel came along to rescue me
So uh.. you mean Rachel's trans?
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Who's zach
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>>186004642 >>186004503
I love how she is really more into Chloe's kisses there's a passion,yet, in Warryn's she was forcing herself and even didn't last too long nor made any affect on her to make her forget about Chloe. kek
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Going out for awhile. Stay comfy, /lisg/.
Have fun, be cute, and don't bite the hooks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRQPc-PK1gM
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>>186005229
What's wrong with trans?
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>>186005513
Sorry for offending you,tranny.
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>Try to argue that Max isn't gay
Alright maybe she's bi, but it doesn't matter since she's with Chl-
>Try to argue that Chloe isn't gay
U WOT M8
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How edgy will teen Chloe be in BTS?
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>>186005698
She will have sex with Rachel and the game will be banned for adult content
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>>186004561
>at least the ''Max is straight'' thing makes more sense
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True ending and you know I'm right
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stop fucking up image limit for god's sake.
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>>186005698
maximum
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Well?
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>>186006161
me on the right
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>>186006194
Eggs and bacon
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>>186006194
Pancakes and Bacon.
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So who wrote "you're all gonna die"
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>>186006194
>>186006396
>>186006650
stop fucking up the image limit and replying yourself you idiot
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>>186006767
Calm down anon, life is strange is just a game it's all fictional
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coincidence?
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>>186007779
Chloe was also a sk8ter
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>>186007904
Yeah since Chloe's skater, they most likely influenced on it
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>>186004642
0% romance&love
0% passion
he might be rewarded (from beta phags) before this reality gets destroyed, but he'll never get the true love
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>10
Max rewind pls
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>>186010597
Attraction,passion, love are not things like come to that person forcefully.. even if they force themselves it won't be the real love and that person wouldn't be happy afterwards.Those things should come to that person spontaneously,naturally and it evolves when you started to realize them more and more.Attraction brings passion,and those two things make you more realize that you are in love.

Yes, what I'm saying is warryncucks has no romance (they'd already lost this competition with ''Ew.,I hope he doesn't make a move on me,I can have a little fun of with Warryn,girl's cutting him off without bringing any love confession,nightmare scene where she also cuck'd warryn with her subconcious by having thoughts of Chloe...) and only realistic,well-developed romance was obviously Max and Chloe.
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Why Chloe had to die at a specific time, location and circumstance in order to make the tornado disappear?
Why the tornado was still in the Bay in the timeline where Jefferson kills her?
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>>186014298
>Why Chloe had to die at a specific time, location and circumstance in order to make the tornado disappear?
Because that's where she died in the original timeline.
>Why the tornado was still in the Bay in the timeline where Jefferson kills her?
Because that was still an altered timeline.
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How the hell are we gonna play BtS while knowing we found Rachel's corpse at junkyard.

Damn, it'll hurt so hard.
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>>186015283
>original timeline.
Not anymore though, that timeline isn't pure anymore. It also changed.

>Because that was still an altered timeline.
and so was Bay ending.

That's why that ending is stupid af
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>>186015607
>Not anymore though, that timeline isn't pure anymore. It also changed.
And?
>and so was Bay ending.
The difference is that Bay was altered by a couple of minor actions on Max's part that affected no one. Bae altered the timeline in a much more substantial way that involved Chloe being saved.
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>>186014298
>to original events Max destined to get these powers and meant to use them at the right place, Chloe's also meant to be saved there
>the tornado was still coming after Chloe died in a timeline where Jeff killed her, so this directly mean tornado is obsessed with action rather than being obsessing over a girl
>game is giving you insistingly retarded message like ''muh timeline is altered you should fix your mistake by using your powers again''
>however there's no way anyone could fix that timeline because timeline has already been altered by certain actions + will be also altered with time-traveller girl's existence
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>>186017071
The difference between the Bay timeline and Bae timeline is that the latter was substantially altered in a way that profoundly affected a lot of people's lives.
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>>186016376
>The difference is that Bay was altered by a couple of minor actions on Max's part that affected no one

Those 'minor' things happened in past (also talking about ripping SF photo,what happened in ep3) so that goes for both endings.

In bae, Max did nothing,didn't use her powers again and left things as it they meant to be.

However in bay she went back to change her very first original action, and altered things again.
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>>186017314
No? Just opposite in first one she actually made changes again because undoing that action which has meant to be happen also creates changes? while in the latter she chose to not fuck it up again.
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>>186017529
>Those 'minor' things happened in past
You're going to have to be a lot more specific than "the past". What actions are you talking about?
>In bae, Max did nothing,didn't use her powers again and left things as it they meant to be.
...after she had already substantially altered the timeline by saving Chloe's life.

>>186017921
Your post is too confusing for me to figure out what exactly you're saying, but you seem to be asserting that Bay involves a more substantial alteration of the original timeline, which is objective wrong. Saving a person's life repeatedly over 5 days is more substantial than fixing a camera.
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>>186015448
How do we watch any media where we know that a main character is going to end up dead? It's a pretty heavily used trope.

We want to know who Rachel really was because it illuminates Chloe's character.
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oh shit don't let /lisg/ die
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>>186016376
So you get to decide what constitutes minor and major alterations?

At the very least you would then have to agree that Max, having the knowledge of the week, will act substantially different for the rest of her life than she would have without it, altering the timeline more and more away from the supposed original, which would then lead to more and more and worse and worse catastrophies, according to your logic that original timeline altered = bad.

>>186018615
>which is objective wrong
So you do think you can say what constitutes major and minor events in a cosmic context. News flash: nobody does. The littlest things could have the biggest consequences, and the biggest the littlest. It is not objectively determinable at all that Chloe would have affected the world more than say, Max not destroying her camera, not ripping her polaroid, arriving in the bathroom earlier than she did originally, not jumping out from behind the stall, hell, thinking different thoughts in that moment. This cannot be objectively measured.

Now it's certainly dev intention and fairly reasonable to say this is the original timeline-altering event, but that doesn't do away with that logical criticism of the writing on that ending.
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I hope we make a thread for Victoria's birthday in time.
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>>186027181
Would be cool.
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What's local Arcadia Bay establishment is named for Mrs. Grant and Alyssa?

The Two Whales
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>>186031950
rude
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>Max is supposed to be your average looking boring girl
>it's the cutest girl in the whole town
?
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>>186037076
I kind of doubt dontnod set out with the idea to write a boring character.

For her appearance, tastes are subjective. (And I agree.)
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>>186037797
I think Max looks good because we know who she is. Would you be attracted to her if you didn't know who she was?
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>>186037797
>>186037076
>>186038839
eh, she's not smoking hot but she's FAR from being ugly imo
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>>186039502
No, she's very cute and (forgive the potential creepiness) innocent looking.
I would not call Max hot. She looks different than others and some may appreciate that and others may not even notice it or find it particularly attractive.
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>>186038839
Getting to know her definitely made her more beautiful as a whole. I found her pretty from the beginning, but I wasn't enchanted by her, as I later were to become.

>>186039502
Don't think anybody called her ugly.
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what kind of memes you wanna see in the prequel?
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>>186040359
Chloe using emojis when texting Rachel and then Rachel telling her to cut it out.
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If Max's first rewind wasn't one that moved her back into the classroom and allowed her to make changes there, then there'd be less to argue against the Bay Ending with.
But that first rewind IS there and so it eliminates the idea that Max going back to the bathroom with the butterfly photo is making the timeline 'pure'.
So the lesson of the Bay Ending is "Some changes are fine and others are not" with no indication which ones are okay or will cause problems. With the Bae Ending then even if Max did cause the storm, the idea is that there will be no more storms unless Max breaks time with a rewind that moves her as well, which was only seen at the start of the game. We've already seen that rewinding doesn't cause any problem except for Max overusing her power. So if she wanted to, she could use her power without fear of a storm, the only consequences being what her actions cause if she changes something in the past.
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>>186040359
loss
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>best girl Kate won't be in the prequel

I guess there's no reason to play this game then.
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>>186037076
I think that's more a function of them not spending as much time modeling side characters. I think Chloe is equally cute, especially BtS chloe. Victoria and Brooke ain't bad either.
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>>186041414
Describe Kate's character
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>>186042347
I like the diversity of the cast's appearance. There's pretty much a character for every style, shape, and upbringing.
Best part is that, aside from a very small few, they all have something to like about them as well as something they could improve on as a person. Dontnod knocked it out of the park with the characters and I hope they can do just as well, while doing nee things, for season 2.
Have good characters, an interesting and fun power, a nice setting, and a coherent story and you've got a great game.
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>>186006650
Nathan.

>>186007779
Uncle Freud said there are no coincidences.

>>186010597
I never let that reality exist.

>>186021945
Never.

>>186022860
>So you get to decide what constitutes minor and major alterations?
Class dialogue is a minor alteration, but overall none of that should matter. Chloe surviving her encounter with Nathan in the bathroom shouldn't summon a tornado.

>>186037076
Looks wise, not that quite. Personality wise, obnoxious. Chloe is much more attractive.
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>>186043518
Floof, God, violins, bunnies, and tea
Breddy gud
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just three more weeks to go
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>>186047035
BtS is going to be shit
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Pick 3 side characters to return in S2
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Why isn't there a lis version of this? Someone needs to make it with Max as the guy on the bed and Chloe as the person spinning as it would give it more love and meaning for Chloe to try to do what little she can in order to have an effect on time.
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>>185866056
>540 threads
>On a 14 year old flat girl point and click game
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>>186048258
nathan, warren and jefferson

:^)
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>>186048258
Frank (+ Pompidou), Stella, Kate.
Frank and Stella end up in rehab together. Kate and Stella come closer as friends. Frank befriends both girls while dealing with his loss of Rachel and feeling guilty how he harmed the two girls and others with his previous business.
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Oh look, it's Dorothy.
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>>186048501
Your contribution has helped /lisg/ live a bit longer. Thank you.
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>>186049270
Please do not post pictures of me with the Godless heathens before I learned of their apostasy. I'll never trust a mudblood again.
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do we have any germanfags here?

https://twitter.com/LifeIsStrange/status/896672681617006592
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>>186049585
The fuck did you just say about my sisters?
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>>186049270
Cute!
I was thinking about Kate's unnamed sister. How about Mary? It's biblical and alliterative.
Lynn Marsh, Mary Marsh, Kate Marsh. their father Richard and their (also unnamed) mother Mrs. Marsh.
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>>186049665
DELETE THIS
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>>186049826
Just using Google Translate:
>Gehst du zur Gamescom? Nimm teil an unserem Community Treff und löchern uns mit Fragen!. Registrier dich hier
Are you going to Gamescon? Take part in our community meeting and ask us questions.
Then the link is for a signup for the Q&A.

If there's any German/Euro friends are going to Köln for Gamescon then you should sign up.
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>>186049842
It's like Max's nightmare where Kate needs to battle and defeat her negative side.
Something that's not a part of her but was implanted in her to try to make her abandon her hopes and dreams.
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>>186051469
Of course, like Max did, Kate will win and vanquish those negative thoughts and fears.

>>186051670
Sleep tight.
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>>186049270
Dorothy has a cheeky looking smile on her face. I bet she knows Lynn will give her a strawberry.
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>>186049665
Damn, look at CHAD WARREN
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>>186049665
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>>186049665
Disgusting, delusional, and creepy - like a a sizable portion of Warren's fanbase seems to be
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>>186053485
>had make fun of with him
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>>186055434
Hardcore!

>>186055563
That made my brain hurt.
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LiS prequel about Max's and Chloe's parents when?
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>>186049665

Holy shit Max is super HOT in this one!
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^NO.
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>>186059149

Look at her body though, it's FUEGO!
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>>186057391
I'd love that. They could all go to Blackwell.
William and Joyce are dating. William swims and Joyce is just starting out at the diner after school. Ryan plays hockey and Vanessa is an art student.
Kate's parents are in a bible club and hang out in the library.
Sean Prescott is head of the Vortex Club.
Wells is a regular teacher (who has hair!)
Samuel is Samuel.
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>>186017529
>>186018615
>>186041171
>...after she had already substantially altered the timeline by saving Chloe's life.
She actually had already subtantially altered prior timelines,present and future. You're forgetting that in past she burnt some certain photos, you're forgetting that; while Bay ending was wanting you that ''create a timeline where you made any 'major' or 'possible' changes'' but we'd already done those actions. There's no way you can create pure timeline anymore, and those tiny changes (++with also time-traveller girl's existence,knowledge about everything) will also create biggest changes in future. This is actually what chaos theory,butterfly effect mean.


>>186045089
>but overall none of that should matter. Chloe surviving her encounter with Nathan in the bathroom shouldn't summon a tornado.
I knew you were stupid but didn't expect this much.

I know that Bay ending stupidly ignores the overall changes and only takes bathroom event as major change.This is is what I'm critising shit-writing here, because there's no way she can undo all of those nor forget them.

Max already changed reality while game,ending was saying ''changing the past is bad:)'' Game was stupidly blaming bathroom events for some stupid reasons. But answering questions,fixing her camera weren't the only changes: In ep3 she burnt the photo where she and Chloe were kids, she said *those words to Chloe right there* , she ripped SF photo up, the butterfly photo takes you to second time rewind... so, she already changed the past.
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>>186060896
Is there a subplot where Sean blows millions of dollars on a worthless photography project?
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>>186062386
I don't think Sean was doing that stuff, he was probably just some douche selling drugs, throwing parties, and bullying people he saw as below him.
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>>185878637
I wish more people saw the love of Pricefield. All of my friends picked bay. Disgusting.
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>>186018615
>you're saying, but you seem to be asserting that Bay involves a more substantial alteration of the original timeline, which is objective wrong.

bay actually involves a more substantial alteration, yeah. I mean you are experiecing all of those realities and trying to ALTER,fix things by re-using your magical power again in that ending.. but original timeline had already altered when you experienced all of those things,anyway. you are changing the things which you meant to do at the first place, so logically this also creates consequences in future.

>Saving a person's life repeatedly over 5 days is more substantial than fixing a camera.

don't forget that also main character,and also some other characters in cast also have rewind-forced deaths.
you said it yourself in your first post, game doesn't take latter changes the seriously because timeline already altered, its mind only busy with Max's rewind in bathroom and taking its own price.

whatever happened in bay ending/whatever altered in bay ending weren't so minor changes, it wasn't just answering Jefferson's question,fixing your camera etc. actually whatever you experienced throughout in whole week count as changes,because you've experienced all of those. and in one of ending you think you can erase them while you can't unsee what you've seen.
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>>186062863
Would Richard Marsh have a George McFly moment with Sean?
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>>186052395
>>186059083
kys
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How long until Dontnod realise that they need another lis with more Max and Chloe
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>>186041414
We've only seen her like I don't know 3 times straightly maybe,there was also no biggest character development other than seeing what did she say during her suicide attempt, so what do you guys like about her? She was okay to me but I wouldn't exaggerate like ''best girl'' Game didn't show her enough to develop her character.
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>>186063414
People felt bad for after committing suicide scene and also liked about the way her being religious.
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>>185962116
>>185962456
Does anyone have the picture of
>What I expected
>What I got
with the trolley problem?
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>>186063318
I don't want another one tbqh, unless they actually want to make one and have a great idea for the story.
I liked the bittersweet feeling the ending gave me.
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>>186063513
I also don't get why her fans acting like she doesn't use any bad word, while in the game she fairly used one.
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>>186062893
I don't know if any of my friends even played LiS. I never brought it up since I don't think they would like it.
I'd also be worried that they would pick Bay.
It feels bad enough watching playthroughs and seeing the person playing make mistakes like letting Kate die or picking Bay.
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>>186064492
I made like 5 irl friends play it. It's disappointing. The only person who picked bae was the person who cared about the story the least and just wanted to see a lesbian kiss which ironically he would have gotten if he picked bay.
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>>186063193
I could see that. Or Sean and his friends picking on Richard and William stands up for him like Max stood up for Kate and others.
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>>186064220
>I liked the bittersweet feeling the ending gave me.
your expectations were pretty low then
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>>186064675
Lmao, not the one I wanted but good regardless. I'm saving all of these.
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>>186062893
what I saw so far is, people who really cares about details and got the game's point could see what's happenning, the love between them.

but if those people are like normies and only focus on ''hurr durr utililarian,moral choice,i'll be hero,who would save selfish cunt like Chloe, i don't need to explain shit,final destination shit is going on...'' then this means they didn't get anything about story,plot,character's feelings. and this technically make them bayfag and warryncuck ofc.
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>>186064940
Very true. After I explained the diary to my friend and he read it he agreed that the bae ending did make sense (but he said he wanted to save Dana because she was bae kek)
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>>186065027
but of course game's endings weren't about ''your friends [insert any character names here] vs your loved one'',

it was about ''your loved one vs town'' it wasn't also a question like which one you care about because the only thing that Max gives value is Chloe, they put save town just this guilt trip about ''saving everyone''and forcing you to make you hard decision.
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>>186066483
=kek
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>ZZZZzzzzz
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I miss the tripfags, it have list more discussion
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>>186068063
>missing attention whores
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>>186068213
How is the katefag an attention whore
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>>186068284
You mean katemarshfan69 ?
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can someone leak BtS already?
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>>185986938
Why are they this desperate to can't accept what they are saying is doesn't make sense and insistingly not getting the point what of what the other person is saying?
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>>186062323
>I know that Bay ending stupidly ignores the overall changes and only takes bathroom event as major change.This is is what I'm critising shit-writing here, because there's no way she can undo all of those nor forget them.

I was agreeing with you and elaborating on your point. Subscribing to your logic makes me very dumb. Correct.
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>>186069579
I don't want you to agree with me, ew
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>>186069370
>''so the universe needs to correct it by having Chloe die some other way,like with the train,Jefferson etc. But since Max prevents all that the universe's solution gets more drastic and causes the storm''

>gives final destination shit as example again
>her tornado vision says storm will be come on friday whateva she does (also her first tornado vision wasn't saying shit but lighthouse was collapsing on her,that's another story)
>bayfag thinks Max triggers storm more and more by preventing Chloe's the 2 deaths while it was purely triggered by our bathroom action
>jefferson's killing her->storm's still coming was the biggest telltale sign that even if she was gets crushed by train it'd have been still contuining to come
>still can't explain why storm didn't go after Jefferson shoot her while Max didn't prevent anything (other than traveled thru very past realities,which also continues in bay ending either)
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>>186069002
Sure, just give me a second. Glad you asked, I thought I could never share it with you guys!
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>It is my current understanding that when Jefferson killed Chloe,if the timeline wasn't altered after that event,storm wouldn't have come.
>Max travels back to before she was killed anyway,so the storm comes.
>Chloe didn't die in bathroom so the universe needs to correct it by having Chloe die some other way, like with the train,Jefferson,etc. But since Max prevents all that, the universe's solution gets more drastic and causes the storm.

See? They don't even pay attention what happened in-game, that's why they whinning over it.

Someone tells him ''storm was still coming after Jefferson killed Chloe'' and he replies this as ''if the timeline wasn't altered ((after))) that event storm wouldn't have come, even while it was destined to come on Friday after Max's decision on bathroom.


Wew. What a stupid,obsessesive universe I mean. To bayfags' it only wants to get rid of some blue haired goddess but in one of endings it forgets to kill blue haired chick while it had got biggest chance to get rid of her.
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>>186070981
Don't worry. I imagine the universe will find a way to kill her soon.
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>>186072514
stop using my memes tranny.
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>>186069370
>when Jefferson killed Chloe, if the timeline wasn't altered after that event, the storm wouldn't have come.Max travels back to before she was killed anyway, so the storm comes. Chloe didn't die in the bathroom by Nathan's hand, so the universe needs to correct it by having Chloe die some other way, like with the train, Jefferson, etc. But since Max prevents all that, the universe's solution gets more drastic and causes the storm.
>the universe's solution gets more drastic and causes the storm (..but it was slowly coming throughout in whole week)

>''since she didn't die in bathroom universe needs to correct it by having Chloe die some other way''
>in a timeline where psycho teacher killed her storm still continued to come, on the right day.
>in a timeline where you refuse to go back and undo your actions, storm had gone without killing that girl.

this is why ep 1 free-to-play was mistake...
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>>186072784
You're jealous of my imagination. I understand. Don't worry. Maybe someday you'll grow one too.
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>be remodeling irl bedroom
>take chloe's comfy bedroom as inspo
uwu
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>>186074480
so will you find your own Max and take her there?
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>>186074992
i-i hope so, anon
i hope so.
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why bayfags assume that everybody in arcadia bay has no sense of self-preservation?
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>>186075080
i guess they think everybody in town will act like Evan

>during the storm,faggot Evan was trying to take a shot rather than trying to save his ass
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>>186066483
Lmao thanks this is a nice one.
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>>186065358
Anon I know I did the right thing. If I had to choose again I'd always pick bae, even irl.
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>>186070981
>>186069370
this faggot is now saying that the tornado literally destroyed the whole town and killed everybody while in reality the so called ''monster'' tornado couldn't even blow over a billboard on a roof
so yeah he didn't pay attention at all
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>>186075606
some people may died no deny but no-one could convince me about WHOLE TOWN DED after that presentation.
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>>186069579
ah good thing you're using a trip so now I can filter all of your shitty posts
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>>186041180
That's too esoteric
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Damn. She's so into it
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>>186075520
>even irl
everyone of course would save their loved ones. even bayfags,even though they are pretending like they are heroes of that universe.

the problem about them is, actually they are the only ones who are being selfish; in that ending, to them, it doesn't matter if main character's gonna suffer or not, or if they are letting main character's loved one die. they are seeing Chloe as ordinary person while she's not in Max's eyes and seeing letting her die as heroic action while there is no self-sacrifice option

you ought to get game's point and be aware of that question is all about ''would you save your loved one over town'' , this means you have to think Max's situation.
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>>186076550
Three-way birthday hug from the Marsh sisters!
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>>186076550
Did anyone do anything for Victoria? I made a cake for Max last year but I don't know what to do this year.
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>>186076550
VICTORIA A SHIT
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>>186077121
BASED Kate, blown their asses up
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>>186077121
Why is Warryn putting his hand over Alice's mouth?
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>>186077481
i don't know but Kate got her revenge anyway
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>>186077578
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>>186077852
>and this is totally what -subtly- happened
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Max did nothing wrong.
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>>186078284
Poor girl deserves to be happy.She only wanted to be together with her Chloe.She fell in love with her childhood best friend,gained powers just when she can save her life and reunite again and had been through so much.They deserve to be together
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>>186022860
>So you get to decide what constitutes minor and major alterations?
I think the difference is fairly obvious to any unbiased observer.
>Max, having the knowledge of the week, will act substantially different for the rest of her life
That part of the timeline isn't written yet. Acting differently than you would have doesn't rewrite anything.
>This cannot be objectively measured.
A fixed camera can never change the world as much as saving a person from death.
>that doesn't do away with that logical criticism of the writing on that ending.
You're right, it doesn't, but I can't take that criticism very seriously. I have yet to see anyone say that Max's hard rewind in Episode 1 didn't actually happen because it's logically inconsistent. /lisg/ is being picky with their logical criticisms because they want to favour one ending.

>>186062323
Bay ends without Max having substantially altered anything.
The chaos theory refers to Chloe, who is symbolised by the butterfly. It's heavily implied that saving Chloe causes the storm.

>>186063154
>bay actually involves a more substantial alteration, yeah. I mean you are experiecing all of those realities and trying to ALTER,fix things by re-using your magical power again in that ending.. but original timeline had already altered when you experienced all of those things,anyway. you are changing the things which you meant to do at the first place, so logically this also creates consequences in future.
Yeah I can't follow this.
>don't forget that also main character,and also some other characters in cast also have rewind-forced deaths.
wut
> it wasn't just answering Jefferson's question,fixing your camera
Yes it was.
>whatever you experienced throughout in whole week count as changes,because you've experienced all of those. and in one of ending you think you can erase them while you can't unsee what you've seen.
So what you're trying to say is that Bay causes alterations in Max's memory. So what?
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>>186076819
>killing a town full of people is less selfish than giving up the person you love
Baefags sure are retarded on these threads...
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>>186079356
> /lisg/ is being picky with their logical criticisms because they want to favour one ending.
Let's say bay ending didn't have logical fallacies this much, I'd still choose bae. So what's your point?
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>>186079494
I think I've made my point. ">muh logick" is a really poor argument. The good arguments for Bae are either thematic or moral.
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>>186079487
>killing a town full of people
>>185988176 ?
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>>186045089
>but overall none of that should matter
Yet you still made those posts.

Why is dialogue minor, btw.? Do I really need to frame to you a scenario in which a single piece of dialogue uttered could change the entire course of history? Doesn't take that big an imagination. Or knowledge of actual history, for that matter.

The fact remains that we are as humans nearly completely unable to assess what constitutes major originative events in a chaotic system, let alone in a cosmic context. That's kind of where the whole butterfly effect concept stems from. "A human life is so important it changes everything!" is just your intuitive, naive knee-jerk response. That you are confident in your stupidity enough to claim objectivity on chaotic conditions is just doubling-down on being dumb. It doesn't actually say anything meaningful about the reality of its consequentiality, its systemic, chaotic quality in a larger context. Even if we were to casually accept that human lives are major game changers (which this game specifically does not - see Kate/William/Frank/even Chloe, who not only literally dies in the story without things getting better or worse, but who originally was supposed to actually survive the bathroom confrontation)... it's entirely possible that the seemingly minor changes led to loss/preserving of human life. Max takes a step differently on her way to the bathroom than she did originally? Another person is delayed for one second on their way out of school where, originally, they would have gotten caught by a car while jaywalking out from behind the school bus. Or vice-versa.

>Personality wise, obnoxious.
Look who's talking. Thousands upon thousands of people love Max. How many people even like you? I wager you'd be hard-fought to find one single person here for one, and you invested months of your life into shitting this place up after all.
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Hey, I haven't been in here since this gameplay got released, do we have any new info or something? Have I missed anything? About both BTS and LIS2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8aCiiTG33k
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>>186079356
>>186079487
>I have yet to see anyone say that Max's hard rewind in Episode 1 didn't actually happen because it's logically inconsistent.
Logically inconsistent.. this is what are we talking about. Did it happen in-game right? Developers put that scene into the game right? Yes. Then I have rights to point that out.

>A fixed camera can never change the world as much as saving a person from death.
I mean, argument here wasn't disagreeing with it. We already agreed with game somehow blames that Max's bathroom actions as trigger for storm.

But we're also telling you that Max already made many changes prior of those events too. So there's no way you can create pure timeline in Bay while Bay wants you to create a pure timeline, there's no way she can undo these actions anymore:

-She went back to the past burnt their childhood photo,said those words to Chloe
-She went back to the past ripped her SF photo up
-Butterfly photo was leading you to second-time rewind. Where main girl discovered everything

>Bay ends without Max having substantially altered anything.The chaos theory refers to Chloe, who is symbolised by the butterfly. It's heavily implied that saving Chloe causes the storm.

Bay doesn't end without Max having having substantially altered anything because you can't erase what has happened in past and also those memories' existence.

Butterfly was symbolising Dontnod's version of butterfly effect. Yes, making *that* action in bathroom caused the storm. But what I know from chaos theory,butterfly effect is even small changes may bring biggest consequences.

>So what you're trying to say is that Bay causes alterations in Max's memory. So what?
So what... It'll make also changes in future? Because it changed you and it'll also affect something.


>>186079605
So critising what's shit-writing by giving proofs from game is poor argument, but ''muh greater choice,muh some character's selfish cunt anyway'' are good arguments. Hm.
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>>186079356
>I think the difference is fairly obvious
No, it's not obvious at all, that's kind of what makes chaos theory.

>Acting differently than you would have doesn't rewrite anything.
First of all, didn't you argue Max saving Chloe *multiple times* is a substantial change? But now you argue only the first change matters?

Secondly, this would mean Max is rewriting the entire new timeline with her last rewind. All of the things she (and the entire universe beside her) did without her rewind are undone.

Thirdly, I don't know why you think there's a meaningful difference in rewriting the original timeline as it was, or as it was going to be. That is logically the same thing: the original timeline is disrupted, through the use of time travel. If we assume such a drive for original integrity in the timeline that reacts to changes through time travel, then both are the same.

>A fixed camera can never change the world as much as saving a person from death.
Again you're claiming to be able to understand chaos. Any change could escalate into bigger changes, and there is no reason to think a human is qualitatively more of a "chaotic" force in such a system.

>I can't take that criticism very seriously
Eh, that's just you being picky. Not that I'm terribly keen on arguing logics in a magical realism time travel narrative, but the idea that going back could not possibly fix things is a completely valid argument when making the choice whether to kill someone based on that assumption.
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>>186079487
>sees, killing someonelse's loved one as greater good choice and as if it can make him as hero
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>>186079962
well..

>meaning of the butterfly effect: The scientific theory that a single occurrence, no matter how small, can change the course of the universe forever. In chaos theory, the butterfly effect is the sensitive dependence on initial conditions in which a ''small change'' in one state of a deterministic nonlinear system can result in large differences in a later state. "A butterfly flaps its wings in Japan which causes tiny changes in the atmosphere, which ultimately cause a tornado to appear half way across the world. This is where the term "The Butterfly effect" comes from.

>what happened in-game: you went back before 5 years to save that man's life, after you came back and completely created a different universe, storm was still coming (but actually it had to hit the town before 5 years) . after, some psycho kills that girl whom you saved, storm was still coming. not only her but also other people can die if main girl wouldn't help them. storm's only coming for Arcadia Bay. also in one of endings, you can go back into time with butterfly photo and which
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>>186079356
>Bay ends without Max having substantially altered anything
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>>186079356
>Bay ends without Max having substantially altered anything.

so you're telling me that whatever happened in past,keeping those memories won't make changes and altering your very first action which you meant to do it in first place means ''you didn't substantially altered anything in here'' ?
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>>186079487
>killing a town full of people is less selfish than giving up the person you love

>they actually showed most of the buildings intact at the end
>i'm gonna assume every single person who lives in the AB is dead

what's with the reddit tier shieating in this thread?
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>>186079356
> it wasn't just answering Jefferson's question,fixing your camera
>Yes it was.
It wasn't? Max also made changes in past and they still continued on bay ending too because butterfly photo was taking you certain point, but Max altered some things prior to that moment (again, I'm not talking about answering questions,fixing camera. I'm talking about the San francisco photo, I'm talking about the reality where she visited and burnt certain photo in episode 3) and those changes will be made in bay ending too, they cannot altered anymore.

So even if you don't want to agree,yes, Bay ends WITH Max's having substantially altered anything: her experiences throughout week etc. she can't undo anything because she already used her powers,so those actions cannot be undone nor unseen.
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>>186079356
>That part of the timeline isn't written yet. Acting differently than you would have doesn't rewrite anything.
??? what
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>>186079487
>''saving the many over the few is the right thing''
>he weighs the value of human life as a number
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>>186081810
this is the kind of guy who would save 10 murderers instead of one honest hard working family man
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>>186082102
lolno
Baefags are just dumb sometimes. Deal with it.
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what will the Bae vs Bay of BtS?
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>>186082380
>Bayfags are dumb sometimes*

actually, all the time...
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>>186079962
Well Mr fancy talk, everybody here knows that game/storm obsessed with Max's actions in bathroom and ignoring the prior changes. We also know developers' very first intention about their putting Chloe to the coma rather than having her dead, so their version of butterfly effect wasn't about her survival or death rather than that famous bathroom action,Max's action in there.

Game also ignores its own rule,and even devs admitted this, (again that's what we are critizing in here) it takes Bay ending as if it was creating a pure timeline,while consclucion of the story was actually blaming ''changing the past is bad:), going back into time in bathroom what caused the storm!!!'',however in reality it's impossible to create a timeline where you didn't literally make changes because game also ignores the fact that what you've made in these prior timelines. Some of them could be minor changes yes, but some of them weren't because past already been changed.

Also let's not forget eventually you are going back into time with your power,altering things that meant to,destined to be happen with your power, and I'm not even gonna mention what will happen after time-traveller girls existence. She'd seen everything so by hook or crook it may make changes

ps. learn more about what does butterfly effect mean because this game literally followed its own version of b.e. which doesn't even make sense in first place.
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>>186082620
i guess that guy is really coming from here >>185986938
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>>186079487
Selfish is an empty word here. Both and neither of these choices are "selfish". What people usually don't realize is that the choice should be for something, not against the other thing. Max is not willing destruction upon Arcadia Bay, nor death upon Chloe. Morally, as a person, she is a victim faced with an impossible choice. The best justification one could ever have for either is not moral, but emotional and sentimental, to do with the narrative, its characters, and one's experience and interpretation of, and connection to them.

Anything else is a foolish game of morals that I really don't think this game was ever going for, or should be. It's not a trolley dilemma simulator, it doesn't inform or invoke such moral-philosophical confrontation with itself. It only asks that one question in the end, and looking for its answer in morality rather than in its story is about the least interesting route of reasoning for me, as far as LiS is actually concerned.
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>>186080112
>But we're also telling you that Max already made many changes prior of those events too
I'll reiterate: ripping some photos and fixing a camera are not comparable to saving a life.
Memories are not a change of the timeline.
You yourself are admitting that it was saving Chloe that caused the storm, according to the developers. There's no debate.
>So what... It'll make also changes in future? Because it changed you and it'll also affect something.
But it hasn't changed the timeline. The future hasn't been written yet. Fucking with it isn't altering anything.
>So critising what's shit-writing by giving proofs from game is poor argument, but ''muh greater choice,muh some character's selfish cunt anyway'' are good arguments.
Literally yes.
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>>186083141
I could never understand this. When some bay-chooser defending his ending he technically calls you as selfish while there's no self-sacrifice option rather than deciding who'll die or who'll live.While you stuck between those choices that 1 person isn't also some ordinary person to you, she's your loved one. This game wasn't fucking some morality test it was about only one simple question.

For story, until the end of the game Max was begging like she wanted to save Chloe, that she was her priority. One of reason that I chose this ending was she couldn't be good without her and never recover after the things they'd been through alone, if I sacrifice Chloe then I'd sacrifice Max too. Second reason was, not running away from responsibilities, accepting that I did it no matter what it takes.

Also I'm seeing some other bayfags who are calling Max stupid for her wanting her to be together with Chloe.What's wrong with loving someone and desiring to want to be together? Everyone in this world who'd encounter with this choice would do the same thing and I am so dead sure about that.
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>>186080217
>No, it's not obvious at all, that's kind of what makes chaos theory.
Obvious TO ANY UNBIASED OBSERVER. You forgot that last part.
>First of all, didn't you argue Max saving Chloe *multiple times* is a substantial change? But now you argue only the first change matters?
Those were in different contexts. Bae is a dramatically-altered timeline because of Max's actions over the week. But the specific action that caused the storm was saving Chloe, as the developers themselves have basically stated.
>Secondly, this would mean Max is rewriting the entire new timeline with her last rewind
"Rewriting" in the sense of "allowing it to happen as it was originally supposed to".
> I don't know why you think there's a meaningful difference in rewriting the original timeline as it was, or as it was going to be
I don't know what this means. You'll have to use very specific language.
>Again you're claiming to be able to understand chaos. Any change could escalate into bigger changes, and there is no reason to think a human is qualitatively more of a "chaotic" force in such a system.
No, I'm saying that the authors who created the story understand chaos within their own story better than any of us, and they're asserting that saving Chloe caused the storm. This makes sense, because to any unbiased observer it's clear that saving a person's life is a categorically more significant action than fixing a camera.

>>186080576
It's true though.
>>186080756
Those memories will affect Max's actions in the future. They are not an alteration of the already-existing timeline.

>>186081009
Those are the same category of changes: minor photos and objects that have effect on anyone at all besides Max. It's not unreasonable to think that they won't influence the world the same way that saving a life will.
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>>186082620
>again that's what we are critizing in here
I know, and it's a terrible argument. You can't disregard part of the author's narrative just because it's poorly written or a plot hole. If you were being at all consistent then you wouldn't accept Max's very first hard rewind as having happened, since it was a clear plot hole.
But you don't, because this isn't a sincere argument at all: it's a just an easy way to promote Bae and feel smug, as though logically consistency were what's really important in a game's narrative.
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>>186083492
>I'll reiterate: ripping some photos and fixing a camera are not comparable to saving a life.

It wasn't about ripping some photos etc. You said ''nothing has changed in Bay timeline'' and my point was ''No, there's no way you can undo those actions or create pure timeline because Bay timeline also affected and will be affected by some changes,and some certain person's existence''

>You yourself are admitting that it was saving Chloe that caused the storm, according to the developers. There's no debate.
Game was telling you that ''GOING BACK INTO TIME IS WHAT CAUSED THE STORM,THIS IS MAX'S STORM''.. but also was ignoring some certain rules and only blamed bathroom events for tragedy's sake, so no-one's disagreeing with that. This is what anons here critizing, dontnod wasn't being loyal to their time-travel rules because they changed one of endings nearby the end.

>Memories are not a change of the timeline.
They are.

>Literally yes.
You are nothing other than a whiny cunt, then.
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>>186083492 >>186084027
>So critising what's shit-writing by giving proofs from game is poor argument, but ''muh greater choice,muh some character's selfish cunt anyway'' are good arguments.

>Literally yes.

???
you can always leave if you don't like what we talk here, y'know?
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>>186084027
>I know, and it's a terrible argument.
>You can't disregard part of the author's narrative just because it's poorly written or a plot hole. If you were being at all consistent then you wouldn't accept Max's very first hard rewind as having happened, since it was a clear plot hole.

Wait wait. Why wouldn't accept Max's very first hard rewind? You can't unsee,avoid from things that happened in-game by saying ''neeehh it was a clear plot hole'' ..because it happened in game.

We also already accepted it as one of logical fallacy.

Seriously mate, the hell is your argument here? You want us to not discuss about game's events in here, especially a game about time-travel? And even devs said by themselves to they left things for players to get those mysteries.
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>>186084040
>You said ''nothing has changed in Bay timeline''
No, I said "nothing is substantially altered". Photos are ripped, but you haven't saved a human being from death.
>No, there's no way you can undo those actions or create pure timeline
It's not about a "pure timeline".
>Game was telling you that ''GOING BACK INTO TIME IS WHAT CAUSED THE STORM,THIS IS MAX'S STORM''
No, the game tells you that saving Chloe the first time is what caused it. Warren and Chloe both tell you this directly.
>They are.
Nah
>You are nothing other than a whiny cunt, then.
Okay, get triggered. See if I care.

>you can always leave if you don't like what we talk here, y'know?
Meh, I come and go. But as a rule I only ever argue about Bay and Bae when someone starts talking shit about Bayfags. It's good to break the echo chamber.

>>186084384
My argument is that Bay is a perfectly acceptable ending, and that arguments in defence of Bae based on "that ain't logical" are shit and insincere.
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>>186083785
You're only obsessed with minor changes but that's not the point of my argument and you are insistingly ignoring it.

You are saying nothing had changed in bay ending and I'm saying yes it did even if you disregard those minor changes. Timeline changed, so did Max. Everything still had changed when you go back into time to fix/alter things. This also makes changes.
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>>186084516
>My argument is that Bay is a perfectly acceptable ending,and that arguments in defence of Bae based on "that ain't logical" are shit and insincere.

you showed your true colours,thanks for that. >>186083492

>So critising what's shit-writing by giving proofs from game is poor argument, but ''muh greater choice,muh some character's selfish cunt anyway'' are good arguments.
>Literally yes
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>>186083492
>ripping some photos and fixing a camera are not comparable to saving a life.
Not comparable as in only a life could lead to a tornado? Because that is wrong. I'll reiterate: that's literally what the butterfly effects states, that even the most minute changes can have the most drastic outcomes. That Max changes a variety of things is a legitimate logical concern if the aim is to restore the original timeline in assuming that fixes it.

>Memories are not a change of the timeline.
"Memories" are neuro-physiological realities. It changes the physical reality of the timeline. A single synpatic cell more or less attached to another in this or that way, a few more or less glucose molecules burned? A difference that could change everything, down the line.

>The future hasn't been written yet.
But the future would have been different without the time-fuckery. So you want to expand your argument into that the universe not only cares about this specific change, it also only cares about changes to the past. Which, again, means Max's final rewind is also changing what is now the past. After all, the "future" that stems from having saved Chloe initially is not negatively affected, since that future was never written, so saving Chloe didn't rewrite it in a way where the universe would consider it compromised - compromising it then with the final rewrite.
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>>186084587
I'm saying that the only changes that are left in the Bay timeline are completely unsubstantial ones, such as fixing a camera and ripping a photo. It's not unreasonable to think that those actions are insufficient to cause a storm; whereas saving a human being's life is.

>>186084674
I'm confused. What are you trying to say?
Arguments based on one choice being more logical are shit and inconsistent. Arguments based on Bae being morally acceptable or thematically superior are better and more convincing arguments.
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>>186084516
>you haven't saved a human being from death.
You are repeating this like a parrot and still don't get the point of our arguments, I never said anything against it.

>It's not about a "pure timeline".
Pic related. pretty much explains what devs were going with (considering their very first intention of bay ending->chloe coma) That's what I'm talking about critizing devs' being unable to follow their own rules, and ignoring everything for tragedy's sake.

>No, the game tells you that saving Chloe the first time is what caused it. Warren and Chloe both tell you this directly.
Warren doesn't know shit.
Game,devs intention tells you that changing things in bathroom is bad.
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>>186083785
>UNBIASED
I can be as unbiased as I want, that doesn't suddenly make it possible for me to see whether or not changes in the initial conditions could later cause something like a tornado, or whether it's more likely that a human life could than, say, a butterfly's flight path being or not being disturbed by a gun shot.

>Bae is a dramatically-altered timeline
But this alteration of the timeline is an alteration of the future, which had not been written yet. So surely Max's actions in the week are not a rewriting, and as such, according to you, not a significant alteration?

>as it was originally supposed to
But the rest of the week, the "future", was originally supposed to happen such and such, after saving Chloe. Rewriting *that* future-now-past is also an alteration. We would then have to assume another level of sentience, that cares about how things *would have to have been*, which is an appeal to the future... which you think doesn't matter because the future had not been written yet - but then rewriting that now-written-future at the end is still a rewriting of what is now an original past. Almost like time-fuckery's paradoxical and you have to grasp at biased straws to justify the idea that it isn't.

>I don't know what this means.
If the universe cares about the integrity of events in its timelines, why should it only care about events that have already happened, as opposed to those that are going to happen? After all, the events that are going to happen are only the result of those that already did. Where is the qualitative difference there for you, logically or even in assuming a sentient universe?
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>>186083275
Chloe lookin' fine.
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>>186084898
>I'm saying that the only changes that are left in the Bay timeline are completely unsubstantial ones, such as fixing a camera and ripping a photo. It's not unreasonable to think that those actions are insufficient to cause a storm; whereas saving a human being's life is.

But in bay timeline, you are going back into time with your POWER, changing things that meant to be happen with your POWER .. and even if game ignores this actually you are making changes by changing your action again.

Devs' intention is of course changing things in bathroom triggered the storm, which means -I'm gonna give first version of bay ending's example' ; Chloe could be alive in bathroom, but storm wouldn't be triggered if Max doesn't do shit in there (their original intention about time-travel is this,but they decided to kill Chloe right there just to make you stuck between those choices, but plot about time-travel was same)
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>>186084898
>I'm confused. What are you trying to say?
are you being retarded on purpose?

>so critising what's shit-writing by giving proofs from game is poor argument?
>but muh greater choice,muh some character's selfish cunt anyway'' are good arguments?
>''literally yes''
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>>186083785
>This makes sense
It doesn't. This is what people are criticising. Is this criticism awfully relevant to the story? I'd agree, no, we can accept that saving Chloe in the bathroom was the original change and un-doing that change is supposed to solve this magical-realism time travel conundrum. But people are faced with an awful choice, and if they choose to argue for either of the choices on grounds of the logical reasoning that we cannot restore the original timeline anyway, and any minor changes to the timeline could still end up in major consequences, that is a a perfectly reasonable argument and criticism. Not least because however much the game/the devs may imply saving Chloe is what caused the storm, they are at least equally as much involving the concepts of chaos theory and butterfly effect in their story and outside of it, which specifically state that these seemingly minor changes might not be so minor. Hell, which are popularized precisely by the idea that such minor changes could cause a tornado.
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>>186084898
>Arguments based on one choice being more logical are shit and inconsistent.
We're saying what we've seen from the game. You think we're shitting on bay ending just because we chose bae.

And let me tell you,before ep2,ep3,ep4,ep5 even shipped this general decided to save Chloe right there and refused any thought about Bay ending because from the start everybody here accepted that it'd be the most illogical choice.

Ep5 only confirmed those thoughts and really showed that Dontnod really rushed things, ignored whole plot holes, while they weren't even know what were they doing with time-travel, ended the game with the most illogical situation. And when you compare both, one of them seems even more stupid when you follow every dialogues,events in-game.Logically and thematically
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>>186084898
>tfw he said ''muh greater choice,muh some character's selfish cunt anyway'' are good arguments.

Sure thing bayfag.This is why I don't like people like you, butthurt attitudes.
Now cry about how victimized you are, whine over why people here using logic rather than avoiding arguments like ''le plot holes I ain't explain shit ehee''
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