fuck this meta edition >Deck lists, news etchearthstonetopdecks.comhearthpwn.comhsreplay.com (Buy Premium For Us)http://thelightforge.com/TierList (Arena)vicioussyndicate.comdiscord.gg/hsg>Open Tournamentshttps://strivewire.com/http://play.eslgaming.com/hearthstone/http://zotac-cup.comold thread >>185951192
Why is the Rogue DK so bad?
Play more druid
>>185973407you dont deserve the attention
First for I went 1-3 in arena with Druid DK and 2 Infests
>>185973730Druid is overpowered. Fuck off, denying Blizzcunt. Enjoy your shitty broken ass game I'm out until Blizz fixes this mess.
>want to try taunt druid>/hsg/ will just call me a druidshitter anyway
>>185973907So? Cry all you want it is stll fun
>log in finally>get 3 packs>third one is thisI wish I could finally pull a good legendary.
>>185973957true but why should that stop you, druidshitter
I don't think Lich King is great in Kazakus Priest. A cards like Army of the Dead and Doom Pact kinda suck in it. Not sure what might be a better option, though,
>>185973981Just as I said. Have fun with your broken mess of a game, autist.
Is karazahn worth buying? When does it rotate out?
>>185973706>still no cat dragonsWHY?
>>185973779I don't know man.Way to overprices, pretty much useless in most decks.
>>185974127>Is karazahn worth buying? If you got the money.>When does it rotate out?April 2018
>>185973779Because it is a 9 mana card in a class that is not meant to go into the late game.
I have played Jade Druid for 6 hours now and I have not lost a single fucking game
Jaina is pretty fun desu, glad I crafted her
>>185973779Its not bad, everything else is just fucking bonkers
>>185974229We've been having rotations for two years. How do you still get this wrong?
>>185974229First expansion of 2018 so April of 2018 which is 8 months
>>1859742802 or 1 UI?
>>185974314>9 mana, do nothing then die next turnHow is it not bad?
KFT rotates out when?
>>185974314>>185973779That's the definition of bad though. You can't compare her to anything else except whats actually in the game. There no reason for her to be 9 mana when thrall is 5 AND FUCKING DRUID is 7
>>185974506See you in April 2019.
>>185974506First expansion of 2019.
I have 700k+ WoW gold that I'm thinking of converting to Blizz bucks for the sole purpose of buying packs.Will I be able to build a decent deck if I buy 60 packs of the latest expansion?
>>185974590probably unless you have nothing
>>1859737799 mana do nothing in the most tempo dependent class is not good card design
>>185974395TwoProbably gonna cut it for one, however. You only need one to win the game.
Considering Warlock was the worst class before expansion, why did Blizzard choose to give them only meme cards?
Holy fuck evolve shaman is so fun
>>185974590>60 packsMore like 600.
>>185973779>have to wait till turn 10 just to start getting to cast 1 spell twice per turnYeah I'm sure getting to do another backstab or fan of knives on turn 10 will totally help swing the game against the warlock who just summoned 6 demons, or the paladin with his lifestealing ashbringer, or the mage summoning lifestealing water elementals every turn already
HAHAHAHAHA there's people in this general that paid money for packs for the new expansion. Even worse those that wasted their time to do dailys everyday so they could keep up with this never ending shitfest. Hearthcucks never learn.
>>185974590I did this. It was a win-win. You get free packs and lose any motivation to ever return to wow again.
GIVE ME THE ARTHAS HERO SKIN ALREADY IM TIRED OF PLAYING AS THE ELF BITCH
>>185974069You got really unlucky bro. Most people here got a deathknight/arthas/arfus in their first 10 packs.
Disenchanting a legendary means it is your guaranteed leggo next time you pull one from a pack?
>>185974828SHUT YOUR MOUTH KID! ARTHAS is a fucking WAR CRIMINAL! Liadrin is a fucking HERO!
>>185974939>>185974828You just know Blizz isn't going to include an Uther/Arthas interaction. It already hurts.
>>185974804Literally every card game ever.I'm sure people were aware when they started playing what they were getting into
What was that site showing you the play %, win % and all that for every class and also for specific cards, all in a neat graph?Want to check some stuff out of curiosity.
>preview the Arthas hero ingame>music plays>it's a better version of the WC3 Human themeIs there a full version of it available?
>>185974248...that is indeed a good replacement. Making me think about the value of the taunt in Lich King. Decisions.
>>185975152How do you preview it?
T-the meta is still unrefined guys. D-druid will get countered eventually, I-I'm sure of it!
>Jade Druid actually became stronger this xpacI was told the exact opposite was going to happen.
This is what i came up with. Easy 40+ dmg.
Shadowreaper Anduin is fun!
>>185975029>no Arthas/Uther interaction>no Arthas/Jaina interactionWHY EVEN BOTHER THEN
>>185975362He's next on my to-craft list. Never thought my Raza would be relevant again
anyone else already lose the will to play
>>185975463Yeah, I'm already back to just doing my quests.
Why is there always a mage with multiple fireballs, firelands portals, flamestrikes and primordial glyphs at 0-0 in arena? How does this happen every single time?
>>185975463Aren't you enjoying to play against the same Druid deck 80% of the time?
Why arent you playing control rexxar anon? Its FUN!
Who else is really autistic about keeping records on their result from card packs?I've opened 81 packs with the following results:>9 legendaries (1 golden, 1 from prologue)>15 epics, no golden>14 rares missing for 2 each, 5 golden>2 commons missing for 2 each. 6 golden>1640 dust from duplicatesHuge haul compared to Un'Goro where I opened roughly the same amount of packs and got 3 legendaries. How'd I do and what are your results /hsg/?
>ultimate infestation>of druids on the ladderlike pottery, surely this was intended by blizzard. 4d chess.
>>185973779it's a 9 mana ice block that makes you slightly better at miracling
Convince me to not craft Uther of the Ebon Blade
Wonder how all you people bitching about druid are going to react to whatever T1 deck replaces it next week once people have time to figure shit out.
>>185975339fuck that's actually a nice combo other than meaning you can't Brann your C'thun buffers
>>185975543Because I'm playing Deathrattle Rexxar and it's DINOS!
Highlander priest is probably doing to be a safe craft once the meta settles right?I assume they are already pretty high in the ranks.
>>185975784Highlander priest and Exodia mage are bigger problems than druid.
>>185975784depends on what you're missing. if you're missing more than 2 legendaries I'd be cautious.
>>185975362what deck anon? big priest?
>actually opened Druid DKDo I really need Ultimate Infestation? That's the only card I'm lacking.
>>185973907I'm destroying druid with my dragon priest
>>185975784Priest is strong this expansion, the fact that it somehow has a 50% winrate across the class is mind boggling
Reminder that the correct time to start saving for the next expansion was 2 days ago. Enjoying that triple set release per year, anon?
>>185975829They're only a problem because you can't tech against them
>>185975909did dragon priest gain anything? bone drake looks underwhelming
>>185975901I posted it here before, but I've tweaked it a bit since. Considering switching out Lich King, but I really like that it has Taunt.I'm switching out Geist as well, as I never draw it in the one match I need it and I also have won a couple of those games anyway.
>>185975909Post list. Is dragon priest expensive to make?
>Everyone still crying about Jade Druid.>Have a fair matchup against them.>Meanwhile I'm not sure if I've ever beat a new priest deck that wasn't the Barnes/Obsidian/Ysera/Lich King meme deck.
>>185975906>tfw gold Ultimate Infestation and Malf DK, but didn't pull a single Druid of the Swarm or Spreading Plague
>>185975932Yes because I earn 3.5k € a month and have no debt or high expenses.Why anyone would play moneystone as f2p is beyond me.
>Tempted to craft 3 different legendaries and 6 epics just to cash in on the Priest memewhy this class so expensive tho
>>185975914>>185975829Have some decklists to share?>>185975890Pretty much Raza and maybe Kazakus.Other than that only rares and commons during the expansions I was gone (Ungoro/Gadgetzan).
>>185976163I earn a measly £1k a monthEven I can afford £45 3 times a year for a game I play basically everyday, playing f2p is retarded
>>185976184>why this game so expensiveActiblizz
>>185976207Not me, I'm running Jackie Chan warlock.
>>185976113People are complaining about Jade Druid because they were hoping that a new expansion would actually change the meta.Priest is an absolute nightmare to play against now though why did anyone ever want this class to be good?
>>185976307A what now?
>>185974118And just like I said tooCry me a river faggot
>>185976207>maybe Kazakusdont play highlander priest without kazakus
>>185976380Warlock DK with a bunch of mass damage demons, field nukes, and healing.
>>185976053thank you, really happy i got lich king by opening with my remaining gold and not decide to leave it for next expansion
>>185976431This potion so good?
>>185975381>be too lazy to make WoW lore mix with card actions and interactions>just remove Heroes of Warcraft from the name so you can forever say it isn't the same>release an xpac exactly based off of Warcraft lore>receive maximum Jew bucks because it sells like crack to niggers>still have no interactions because too lazy and refuse to admit it's still based on the lore>BlizzardEA
I want to get legend this season, what should I play to do this as fast as possible?
>>185976521Ah, have that as well, too bad I don't seem very successful with it.
>fuck this meta editionPlease explain to me what meta you kids want. If its an overly aggro shitfest, the meta is 'fast and cancerous' because you can't play your greedy decks. The meta is now very slow, with Druid being dominant. I mean no shit there's always going to be a top deck that everyone netdecks for easy wins, that's cardgames for you. What would you prefer? This expansion has opened up so many new interesting decks for classes like Warlock and Priest, its night and fucking day compared to the horrendous expansions of TGT and Mean Streets.
>>185976540kazakus was the single strongest card in the game before they gave his potion to druid without having to run highlander.
>playing against jade druid>he's got 8 mana crystals when I got 4>he plays his dk and two turns later he draws 5 cards, deals 5 damage, summons a 5/5, and gains 5 armor all from one cardwhen is the nerf comingits literally just a matter of time it has to be
>Decks contain anywhere between 3 to 7 Legendary cardsWOW Blizzard thanks for that 1 free DK card.
First 4 decides the golden DK I will craft
I got like 5k dustwhat are some other fun decks that I can craft, I'm thinkin priest maybe
>>185976652It auto loses to priest and mage.
What is the pity timer these days?
>can finally successfully and consistently finish the Druid Quest>have to use cancer shit to do it and carry me through the gameBut it'S fine because my deck's core is a shitty Quest, right?
>>185976880Just sit on it, I have 5k Dust as well and I just play with whatever my 30odd packs brought me.In 2 weeks youll know what to craft, in a month the meta will settle.If you want to craft NOW I am having fun with Rexxar and you can't go wrong with Druid.
If dubs I craft DK Priest
>>18597693010 packs when you start offThen it jumps to 70
>>185976983And fo real this time...what is the pity timer these days?
>>185976684>If its an overly aggro shitfest, the meta is 'fast and cancerous' because you can't play your greedy decks.I'm probably the only person here who actually prefers an aggro meta, Un'Goro was amazing for example. Fuck greedy wallet decks.
Control hunter is now viable with Death Knight Rexxar>Bloatbat abomination + poison = board clears>10 cost knuckles combo with lifesteal>Taunt minions every turn>Never run out of cards in your hand because your hero power is basically a broken version of warlocks that doesn't fatigue youLOVING EVERY LAUGH
>>185977009Damn thats a lot, if true.
>>185977031>these daysits always been 40
>>185975993The five mana dragon is great, and the two mana board clear is fine as one offbone drake is decent
I'm 13:1 at rank 3 right now with Highlander DK Priest.After a lot of experimentation, I 100% believe "OTK" is the best version. After you've Raza'd and DK'd:- Velen + Mind Blast deals 20 damage from hand- If you have another 1 mana card (or Radiant Elemental) you deal 24 damage from hand- You can easily ping your opponent down to 20 life while playing cards normallyTo make this work you need to trim all the slow value cards like Elise/Medivh and focus on cycling your deck. I run Novice Engineer, Loot Hoarder, Thalnos and Acolyte. Only include big value cards if they're defensive (e.g. Mind Control is valid since it's a great answer to Lich King / Tirion / etc, similarly Lich King is good because it's a taunt and can give you board clears). All you care about is drawing your deck, getting Raza + DK, then winning.
>>185975339This kills the priest.
>its a "druid has 2 ultimate infestations in arena" episodegetting real sick of this one
>>185977049Blizz needed to rework the ranking system if they were gonna try and push a slower meta. this shit only works with 5 minute games
>>185976064I posted it some days ago, not expensive but you have some epics and a legendary (Lyra) so medium dust cost from scratch
>>185977159Rexxar is more powerful than you could ever imagine. Nobody can stop the control hunter meta anon, just spread your cheeks and prepare to be hunted down.
>>185976808>Tfw only opened bad legos so far>Scared to use the little dust I have to play something good
Continue to get fucked, Jades.
>>185977126Most of those beast combos are extremely unlikely to happen, and the hero power being good doesn't mean much if it's restricted to a class that's extremely poorly suited to it as well as a control meta in general.
Jade Druid makes it literally impossible to play anything that doesn't generate infinite damage. How the fuck else are you supposed to keep up with the multiple giant dildos they summon and the million armor they gain? Playing for board control with any other class is just suicide, because they never run out of resources thanks to having a million draw cards in their dick.Thank fuck Quest Mage and DK Priest exist, I'm not going to play anything else until this shit stops.
>blizz can't do their usual 'up the mana cost by X and call it a day' to nerf ult infestation because its already 10 manahow will they nerf it?
>>185977127No, he's bullshitting. Pity timer is 10 until you open your first legendary for every set you've never opened packs for and then it's 40 as usual.Works retroactively too by the way: if you've never opened GvG packs before and buy it at the shop you'll now get a guaranteed legendary in your first 10 packs.
>>185977510He must have drawn really badly, huh?
>>185977612Like they did with the Rogue Quest, instead of 5 of everything it will be 6 of everything.
How long until the next major tournament? I just want to craft meta deck already.
Next expansion we finally get legendary weapons/spells? Or would Blizzard actually try to pull Monk [Class]
>>185977612>implying they couldn't Innervate being necessary to play such a bullshit card would still be a good deal. It's still 19 mana and like 4 cards worth of value so getting it for 2 cards and 12 mana is still good.
>>185977612nerf it to 12 and then hotfix how innervate works so you Innervate past 10
doing this is so sad
I have velen, Lyra, Elise, and a golden DK anduinWill I regret it if I craft Raza and kazakus now?
>>185977628Somebody else told already but thanks. I'm close to the timer, that's good.
>Pre-order>Get like 15 packs on top of that with gold>Have every common and a few epics from the set>Dk malfurion, hadronox, dk thrall, dk warlock, lich king>Feels like I cant actually play anything other than the decks I got hero cards from because every deck is locked behind epics and legendariesThis is dumb. I spent £45 on the expansion and I can barely play 3 of the 9 classes. And I dont even have some of the legendaries for those classes I need like FandrilI cant imagine how shit It'd be if I didnt pre-order and was on a slow drip of packs
>yearly rotations mean certain expansions will be in standard for 2 years while others just 1 year and 4 monthsIs this correct or am I just misunderstanding the system?If so then spending your dust crafting legos from some sets will be more valuable than others.
>>1859776124 damage, 4/4, 4 armor, 4 cards
>>185977695w-wouldn't that be a buff?
>>1859776124/4/4/4or remove one of the effects like the armor
>>185977803No because it is easier for them to burn cards and they get closer to fatigue.
>>185977591>not playing geist and destroying their only way of surviving in fatigue>not playing a hard removal control deck that deals with their non-infinite jades ezthe answer already exists.
>>185977791>>185977850still broken.>>185977850>remove the most irrelevant effectuhh yeah that fixes it
>>185977758You may regret it in a month when all the aggro decks have been refined, since highlander decks have a tough time consistently drawing answers early.That said, I crafted it day 1 because I love Priest, and it's been tons of fun + strong in the current meta.
>>185977476something like this? I don't have elise which is probably good here
>>185977779CorrectCards from say, wotog and un'goro will be more "valuable" to craft than cards from mean streets or koftYes its a dumb system.
>>185977905I'll probably uninstall within a monthAlso Highlander priest is strong in wild if I ever go that way, so might as well
>>185977758They rotate out of standard in half a year so it's up to you.It's the same reason why i'm not crafting Burnbristle cause it just doesn't seem worth it.
>>185973706Why did they League of Explorer (arena) meta feel so much better, bros? Is it the increase in legendaries? Is it losing because opponent plays super ridiculous cards? (Lich King out of Stonehill) Bonemare? Bonedrake? Protodrake?Or was warrior (and all the other classes) being kind of even?!
>>>185977850I say remove the minion. Make it so it's actually a fucking spell and not ancient of lore on steroids. Although I think remove the card draw would be most effective in getting people to stop running it in every deck. Right now the strategy of "dump all your resources into ramping and then just instantly get all your tempo back with infestation" is what's making it so bullshit.
DKs in arena are seriously unfun.
>everyone complains about druid>in the mean time priest pulls out Ysaari turn 4
>>185977991Standard arena was a mistake
>>185977779No, that's correct. Mean Streets of Gadgetzan is currently the expansion that will have had the shortest time in standard, which might be why they printed so many broken cards for it.That, and the fact that they released it during holiday season. Gotta sell those pre-orders before Small-Time Buccaneer is revealed after all.
>>185977758>>185977905>I have Velen, Lyra, Elise, and a golden DK Anduin>Will I regret it if I craft Raza and kazakus now?I'm in the exact opposite situation:have Kazakus, Raza & Velenmissing Anduin, Elise & LyraReally want to play a fun highlander deck, but not sure I want to spend 4800 dust on it.
>>185977940Why not the Lich King? Alternatively 1 brew master and/or Thoughtsteal?
>>185978000I fucking hate Priest more than anything. I've quit the game like twice or something due to Priest. I shit you not that class drives me insane.
>>185977890But what if I want to play Midrange.
>>185977940A bit different from mine but could work, but I would cut ysera and use another twilight drake insteadI don't run elyse either, draconid OP and bone drake provide you with enough value already, play for tempo instead
>>185978063i had the same choices last arena run, so if thats anything to go off of youll get n'zoth on your next pick, go with dragon man
>>185978068Well for starters you DON'T need Elise. It's a card to help with control matchups, but only "eh" outside of that. Lyra is legitimately great but not mandatory either. She's only really needed in decks with intense card draw.
>>185977482He isn't the worse but lets not pretend he is any good at all.
Murloc Paladin is so aids
>>185978063THE DRAGONS SHALL KNEEL BEFORE ME
>right at the end of the MSG meta before ungoro came out I randomly got 1 last legendary from a pack>it was the only one of the kabal legendaries that didn't wind up getting some potential use in KotFTWhy couldn't you have just been a damn Raza.
>>185978063easy nzoth in priest. just get deathrattle and bounce/stall/aoe for added value.
>>185978000>Enemy pally goes DK and starts memeing>I alex and combo himGet fucked lucker
>>185977940Also I run tar creepers and a single stonehill but I don't run the clerics, I think there are arguments for both ideas
>>185978112I was gonna use Lich King, but chose Ysera because she's a dragon and Priest loves big asses.
>Play Bonemare>Enemy hovers over it for like 10 seconds every time
>>185978263What the fuck were they thinking with that card honestly
>>185978263Hey, I got fucking Knuckles. I don't even play hunter.
>>185978263Dont feel bad, Krul sucks too because warlock relies on combos too much to run highlander without reno
>>185977905>Aggro decks have been refinedFor aggro decks to be refined they first have to be discovered. Can you name me one viable aggro deck that can be refined at the moment?
>>185978295justsaiyans twitter list but you put in deathwing
>>185978234W-what happened to Rogue..?
>>185978303You discover the big dragons with historian if needed
>>185978234>city of manleera
>>185978242>murloc pally>deathwingI''m intrigued
>>185978360Krul has at least some meme potential with Gul'Dank. Solia is completely worthless.
>>185978335They were thinking "Shit, we gave her ability to kazakus and can't think of a replacement"
>>185978385>Everyone running control decks so your miracle is just drawing yourself to death earlier>Get no good cards this expansion and your DK is a literal memeThat is what happened
>>185978385Didnt get anythingLego is a meme DK is fairly useless
>>185978385it got 0 good cards
>>185978356>if the face plays taunt, me still go face>shit cardHow on earth did they manage it
>>185977890if they have a jade idol in their hand geist is essentially a non-factor anyways.
>>185978335"mage legendaries are too good so we need to give them one that sucks cock to balance rng minion generation"
Does rotated out mean they will eventually come back to standard? Will we have combos like Koft+Naxx?
>>185978383what did you drop for deathwing? The lich king?
This game is designed like shit and has literally nothing to it.
>>185978437Kill Jade Golems with Pyroblast for free and even get a Water Elemental. Value XD
>About to win against jade druid>As thief rogue>Know that I have lethal>Brainfart and attack with the wrong minion leaving his taunt with one health>Lethal lost>Have 3 health, no taunts and he has DK hero powerI have never been more angry at myself.
>>185978234>Rogue and Mage have the lowest winrateIs that because people don't know how to play them? Mage is a beast.>>185978242What list are you using? I've been playing Murloc Pally last expansion but haven't found a way to make it better in the current one yet.
>>185978385Control Meta happened for the first time ever. Turns out control meta ruins miracle rogue and rogue has no other viable decks.
>>185978507they said theyve had ideas like that but as of right now no so dont hold your breath
>>185978437Warlock will literally never run highlander againThey can barely cling to life as it is with double drain soul and gul'dank hero power
>>185978510yeah its garbage and the plan is to play tirion on curve every game anyway.
>>185978527anon, what is that at the end of your post?
>>185978554>Mage is a beast.The only mage deck with a +ive winrate is timewarp.Everyone is at the halfway mark or sub 50. What this expac basically did is swap the current win conditions with DK Lich and the new mage lego
>>185978487>>185978478>there are people in this thread who dont abuse malygod
So I'm tempted to play Kazakus Ele Mage since I dropped the DK. Is Manic Soulcaster important for that? Is Pyros worth crafting for it?Anyone tried something like that yet?
>>185978761One of the best Pokemon games, don't you know it?
>>185978883No and Yes, if you really wanna play this one specific bad deck.
>reroll>thisg-guess I'm not playing hearthstone today...
>>185978909hmmm, ill let it pass this time
does /hsg/ like jjba?
>7 mana 9/9>9 mana heal back 10 and hero upgradeNice expansion, kid.
>>185978883been playing around with this listit's a bit eccentric but the win rate is decent so farpyros is really good but not sure if he's necessary strictly speaking
>>185978842what control deck does malygos beat? A. zero (0)
>>185978542>playing a janky pirate warrior deck that's missing a bunch of good cards>opponent has lethal on board>I think I have lethal on board>go all face>he has 1 health left>failure.txt>I had a fucking Glaivezooka in my hand that would have given me lethal if I'd counted right in the first place
>make a meme priest reno deck without kazakus and with benedictus>enter ranked by mistake>still win against evolve shaman easilyI feel like I got really lucky.
>>185979053pirate warrior still good?
>>185979141not when you don't have Grom and either of the 4 mana 3/3 pirates. Good enough to get me to rank 20 fast and cheap with what I pulled from my preorder>>185979187Molten Blade
>>185979028Pyro is necessary if you want to run the late game variant with Nzoth
>>185979302>rank20>grommash in pirate warriorpls be bait
>>185979028no blazecallers anon?
I need help /hsg/After opening Rotface, I finally caved and dusted Sir Finley to craft Grommash. Turns out damage Warrior is shit so I'm thinking of dusting some wild cards, maybe a crappy classic or old gods card and crafting another classic legendary that I still don't have. Any advice? Here's my list of wild memes:Braan Kel'ThuzadMal'GanisBaron EliseMurk EyeRenoBoomCrappy Standard Legendaries:VolazjMukla Greenskin Classic Legendaries I need:ThalnosVan CleefFandralY'SeraCairne DeathwingOr should I hold out and wait until the meta settles?
I MUST PROTECT THE WILD
>>185975339http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/901152-wild-cthun-otk-warriorHere is the list i use btw.
I don't know what to do>pulled Druid DK>1 ultimate infestation>2 Spreading Plagues>1 Druid of StormI have 3k dust. Do I become a fag and play Druid? I don't really have any Jade cards at all since I started up right before Un'goro.
>>185976684I just want priest to not exist.I'm tired of their infinite card advantage. You know how retarded seeing cabalist tome into cabalist tome is? That's every game against a priest.I'm tired of 50 minute lyra turns, which are even worse now that raza lets you voidbolt after every card for free. I'm tired of secret agents coming through, taking the exact card they need from my deck because discover is a good mechanic.I'm tired of turn 1 northshire clerics that last the entire game because they got buffed up until the only way to kill them is hard removal.I'm tired of having to not play my cards because i know they'll just get stolen and i'll have to use more cards to remove them. I remember back in the dragon priest with lightbomb days when the only way to consistently fight a priest was just playing paladin and only using your hero power.Priest's only weaknesses are hyperaggro and actual infinite value, which is why we have stupidity like jade idol and turn 5 kills as a regular part of the game.This has been going on since beta and there are no signs of it ever stopping.
>>185979364don't want to spend the 800 dusttried the frost elemental shatter combo instead
Fuck me dude, I picked every 1/2/3-drop they threw at me but it wasn't enough. I've never been this unlucky. I at least wish I got some sort of board clear but fuck.0-3?
>>185979357I also don't have PatchesI literally didn't play for most of Gadgetzan and all of Un'goro, I only started again for the DKs
>>185979389greenskin is good.fandral is a safecraft id say go jade druid
>>185979542>playing any aggro deck without patcheslmaopaidesufam
Any viable Warlock decks? I replaced Doomsayers in my old handlock deck with Defiles and I think I cold climb to rank 10 with this. I lose to priests every time though.
>Patron meta>Rogue is unplayable>Oil Rogue is discovered>Blade Flurry gets nerfed>Rogue is unplayable>N'zoth Miracle Rogue is discovered>Karazhan comes out>Rogue is unplayable because they only got Burgle meme cards>Arcane Giant Miracle Rogue is discovered>Gadgetzan Pirate Warrior emerges>Rogue is unplayable>Water Rogue is discovered>Conceal and Gang Up get rotated out>Rogue is unplayable because meme quest>Quest Rogue dominated the meta Day 1>nerfed within the expansion>Knights of the Frozen Throne releases>Rogue is unplayableS- surely we'll discover something again, r- right?
>>185979682Miracle is solid t2I get legend with it every month
>>185979682Rogue will be viable when they get their good cards back like Azure Drake. No one got fucked harder when ADrake rotated.
I'm sorry bros, but my quest and my need to climb means that I will become the cancer.
>>185979682I highly doubt it. Rogue simply does not have the tools to deal with this heavy control meta.
>>185979682Not this time. They are headed for Warlocktier
>>185979031Combo beats almost every control deck dingus
>>185979931oh shit where have you been, every deck now has enough armour gain and combo has been getting all their burn removed
>>185979658The new AoE DK Warlock is super fun and crushes Aggro, I don't own Lich King nor DK Guldan and I made it work with Jaraxxus and Medivh
>>185977612You have to choose effects like kazakus and you only get 2
>>185979557>>185979389I need to dust 4 Legendaries. That's my problem...
Do I lose my weapon if I play a DK Hero?
>>185979389what a retard
>>185973779>mfw those clowns saying it was going to be OP as fuck
>>185980438no but you don't get a second weapon hit either
>>185980438only if it's Garrosh or Uther
>>185979816Guess you only play the easy netdecks huh
The deck that Savjz and Thijs are playing atm seems pretty safe to craft. Priest looks really solid
literally the first time i got value from this meme legendary in 10 games. this expansion got boring really quick
>crafted skulker just to counter Jade Druid>has no effect whatsoever>if anything it puts me at a disadvantageWhat a waste of 400 dust
>>185973779What about it? I just crafted it in golden
>>185980497I've been holding onto my DK Anduin with Medivh weapon equiped this whole time.
Only just realised that if you replace the new warrior weapon with a new one you still trigger it's deathrattle without needing a final swing. that could have saved me a couple of games
>>185980442what did he mean by this?
>>185980674>>185979389>dusted Sir Finley
>>185980614craft a 2nd one for it to be effective, goy!
>>185979682i dont know unless i can put tomb pillager or azure drake in my standard deck somehow its not going to get any betterits just too slowif you cant finish them they just heal for a million now
Is there a big secret on the new game board like the ungoro volcano?
>>185980878making the dragon spit ice
>>185980763is this supposed to be funny
well I feel like an idiotI always saw people getting 12 wins with these crazy decks in arena so I tried to mimic their decksNow I just draft as many 2-3-4-5 cards as possible and usually get 5+ winsThe tricks is literally just drafting midrange stuff
what's the lowest cost card for priest to give another minion taunt?
>>185979682I just want my unearthed raptor back + good deathrattle minions like tomb pillager and sylvanas
>>185981110there's sunfury in neutral
>>185980616You dumbfuck >>185973779The battle cry swings nothing and the power is shit. You can use it for anything that costs more than 5 mana and you can only use it once per turn. It's basically a 5 cost hero power and it is completely dependant on what cards it have and what you draw. That and like another anon said, it costs 9 fucking mana so your turn using it is over.
>>185981156unearthed raptor into pillager is a waste of a raptor
>>185981191For some reason I'm unable to remember any minion that gives shit to anything on his sides, aside from the magma totem.It's so weird. Also thanks, it's exsctly what I needed.
>>185979682Miracle has basically carried Rogue through the entire existence of HS. Now miracle isn't really playable because everyone has healing via lifesteal and a million good taunts just because and the only opponents who can't heal are aggro players who miracle is a bad match against to begin with.I really do hope that Rogue gets some new life breathed into it next expansion. Hopefully something that ISN'T reliant on miracle or some kind of one off gimmick. Seriously, what the class needs more than anything is some god damn deck diversity.
>>185973779Because the 30 damage wombocombo isnt relevant as it used to be>Everyone and their mothers gain crazy heal and armor now>Taunts are everywhere meaning Southsea combo doesnt work well>Control decks have immense pressureThis means that you cant combo people to death as a miracle rogue. Its the main wincon but you cant achieve it against meta decks.>Muh nine mana>do nothing>too slowThese arent valid reasons given the cards design. The fact that DK Valeera cant achieve its intended purpose kills it. Its a wincondition that cant materialize.>DK Valeera is for grinding out your opponentThats jade
>>185980758>plays wildYou're the reason Blizzard got away with scamming the entire community out of dust by making a dumpster for broken cards and calling it a day. I should come into wild and Patron/Mill your ass you filthy pleb
Rogue DK should've been a combo hero power like Uthers.
>>185975784>Highlander priest is probably doing to be a safe craft once the meta settles right?Of course not you dumb nigger
Rogue DK should've been some other fucking legendary in my pack fucking waste of my 10 pack pity timer
>>185981231so you don't do thatwhat is your point
>Opponent has a golden heroSick bro. Can't wait to play the entire game at silky smooth 10 fps. The golden hero should only be animated during the intros, and stay still during the actual gameplay so it doesn't fuck up the matches.
>>185980438No. In fact it's been proven that if your weapon has a buff like Lifesteal or Poisonous when you play the Hunter DK Hero his battlecry (2 damage to all enemy minions) will also have that effect.Just kind of a bummer that only rogues can buff their weapons with keywords/the Rogue DK didn't have a similar battlecry (maybe a blade flurry type effect where it destroyed the weapon but dealt its damage+keyword to every enemy minion or something). Probably would have been a considerably better battlecry than giving your hero a worse version of immune for 1 turn. Might have even made it playable.
>>185980996>bum blasted jidf detected
Did they just release the expansion for the chinks or something? Client just crashed and I'm in some fucking queue for 30 minutes just to restart it, because "it's a busy day" the message says. Just nuke the mindless robots that breed like rabbits, cheat at everything, and contribute nothing to culture.
>>185981609Just don't play on a toaster
>>185981468you can play jade with DK valeera though
Anyone got a decent control pally list that runs blackguard? I can't for the life of me put him to good use, he just feels really underwhelming
Guess I'll put Geist back in.
>>185981609Are you playing the game on a banana taped to a plate of glass?
>>185981481I only play Wild because its mere mention triggers autists like you into high-heaven.
>>185981609Stop playing on your toaster
Is KOFT the worst meta in the history of hearthstone? I have faced nothing but Druid, Paladin and Priest. Everything except Warlock was played in Un'Goro. I am bored already because I am only facing 3 classes. Surprised to see Blizzard messed up this bad. Un'Goro was amazing they should just let us go back to that and remove this expansion.
>>185981609>golden hero lags his gameJesus what kind of 10 year old laptop are you playing on?
>9 mana>basically requires [prep into] vanish to even have a chance at recovering tempo>hero power useless if you don't have low cost cards in hand>get fucked by ANY other DK next turnHoooo boy they should offer us a full dust disenchant for this one
>>185981775>Not being logged in 24/7 with an anti-afk macroNever gonna make it.
>>185975784You won't be able to get away by being this greedy in a few weeks. But maybe aggro won't be a thing, I think druid and warlock are keeping them at bay by themselves
What the FUCK is this shit?
>>185977510>tfw want to play that>tfw still to much variance in decks so high risk I waste dust
>>185981369A really grindy Rogue with Jades and N'zoth maybe? Getting duplicate Jade cards with DK Valeera seems pretty good, and we do currently have the best single target removal in the entire game right now with Vilespine Slayer, and generally good bullshit like Shadowcaster, Mimic Pod and Swashburglar.Shadowblade is performing quite well too, which actually made me put Blade Flurry back in against all the Zoo and Token decks that just dump their hand, not expecting a board clear from Rogue. Not sure if it's better than Vanish, but I don't like running Prep, so it's an alternative for sure.I dunno, I think there's potential there once the meta settles down.
>Rogue DK now costs 8, gives stealth to your hero and to all of your minions, activates your "combo" cards for the rest of the match and the reflection costs 2 mana lesswhich of these buffs do we need to make her as good as the other DKs
>>185978234What site is this?
>>185982071Priest takes a big fat dump on any rogue deck.Also the lack of taunt or heal makes it kind of hard to play rogue.
Uther DK deck or Priest? I really want to play a highlander deck because I never played during MSoG but I dunno if it's any good
So what classes are actually looking good apart from Jade Druid?I've been having fun with Rogue DK but it sucks cock. Can only beat Priests and sometimes Warriors.
>>185982085All of them. With shit like Exodia Pally and Mage a few buffs to Rogue won't hurt.
>>185982085make it cost 5
>>185982051WHY THE FUCK IS IT GOING BACKWARDS
>>185982192please read the entire post you shithead
>>185981609I'm going to grind to get my golden heroes to fuck with shitters like you playing on Windows 95.
>>185982085the shadow reflection shit should just make every card you play activate twice or something
>>185981875Don't lie please. The Ranked rates of play were so heavily skewed in Un'goro just like every expansion. It was 50 percent Mages, 20 percent Druids and 30 percent Warriors with barely anyone playing anything else.I mean yeah, people played other classes too but way, way less than those three and it's exactly the same here after KoFT. It's just a different 3 classes.
Is the Velen priest a gimmick or is it the best version of Priest DK?
>see Doomerang>"oh sweet it's like Savagery but with weapon damage">didn't expect the "return to your hand" was literal and lost 6/4 charges.Well so much for the weapon pirate rouge idea. A neat trick to equip the same weapon 4 times but you can only swing so much before your face cave in.
enjoy some paint art of my frozen throne waifu
>>185982240u know maybee if hunter dk ruduced the cost of zombie beasts by 5, hunter could be good? buff to hunter wouldn't hurtwhat do you think??
>>185982240>Exodia Pally>Mage>GoodI mean they're not bad but they're nowhere near druid right now
>>185982308that would be done by making the reflection cost 0 and getting a new reflection card after playing one
>>185982346That's a big girl cock.
>>185982085I would already be happy if it just costs 8 or the Shadow Reflection stays in your hand so that you can copy things that cost more than 5.
>>185982051>>185982248WHAT THE FUCKKKKKKKK DID AN ENTIRE COUNTRY JUST CUT ME?
>>185982458Should have payed Ben
Ultimate infestation is such a stupid card
>>185982458>Sorry f2p player, you've lost all your cards that you stole from us
small indie company can't afford to keep servers up 24/7 please understand
>Uther of the Ebon Blade>9 mana>Gain 5 armour, equip a 5/3 weapon with lifesteal in the class that already has lots of healing and doesn't care about weapon synergy, its just more burn/removal to them>Literally a 9 mana deal 15 damage gain 20 life>And gives you a stronger hero power>And gives you an instant win condition if your opponent cant constantly clear your horsemen>Valeera DK>Same cast>Gain 5 armour and stealth for a single turn>For the rest of the game you can play a copy of any card that costs 5 or less for the same costThe difference in power level is staggering
>Deal 5 damage>Gain 5 armor>Summon a 5/5 minion>Draw 5 cardsWhat the FUCK were they thinking?
>>185982589paladin class identity is having better legendaries than other classes :^)
>>185982458sorry anon it's a known bug they still havn't fixed since karazhan. The only known way to fix it is to buy the 50 pack bundle.
>>185982529>>185982656its about as stupid as half of priests cards
>>185982051>>185982248>>185982482FUCK YOU BLIZZARD IM SWITCHING TO GWEEEENNNNTTT
>>185982630Official forums down too.
Talk me out of dusting DK Garrosh. I never play warrior anyways
>>185982589>Brode, maybe we can give a good card to rogue this expansion?>Rogue will always get shit cards because of prep>but innerva->PREP IS TOO GOOD>AHAHAHAhdasdjfhdk<ghzksfg>Guldangerous
>>185982656this is insanely strong. it's like firelands portal without the rng and shield block + draw 4 extra cards all in 1 card.
>>185982589I still can't believe Baron Geddon's end-of-turn effect gets lifesteal from Mage DK
>>185982735It's only 400 dust and you will end up getting him back in your next packs anyways.
What if the next brawl is choose-your-class with premade decks, but all classes have their DK already played (including weapons)?Who's gonna be the dominating one and who's never ever going to be played?
>>185980592maybe you shouldn't build around the worst legendary in the set??
I don't ever play WildWhat do you guys think about dusting cards that have been rotated out of Standard? Just thinking about getting rid of the legendaries and maybe some epics.
>>185982656It's honestly not that good.5 damage? Wow 6 more mana for 1 damage less fireball.Gain 5 armor? Oh wow you stopped 1 of the infinite fireballs from quest mage.Summon a 5/5? Dies to removal.Draw 5 cards? Have fun fatiguing yourself to death every game.
What the fuck is this shit?>small indie company
Anyone have a list for highlander priest? I'm having trouble stabilizing against shaman
>>185982889>paladin wins after just a few turns>rogue has literally nothing, not even a dagger to kill early drops
>Decks costing 10k+ dust WOOOOOW Thanks for the free DK Blizzard.
>>185982929They're good for some weekly tavern brawls and future adventures are you really that hard up for dust?
>last 3 druids were token druids and I lost horribly because I mulliganed for jade druid>this time get the perfect hand agains token druid>it's jade
>>185982710Nah. It is fucking retarded. Jade druids still stand a chance vs decks that play skulking because of this card.
>>185982984here's my list100% win rate against shaman sample size of one game
>>185982656>4 effect kazakus potion without having to run singles
>>185982905>moorabi is the worst legendary in koft>shieldbearers are posting here at this very moment
>>185982889it should be>pick a class>you start as Deathstalker Rexxar, but with a 0 mana hero power and a deck with 20 class cards and 10 neutrals from the class you picked
do I just need tarim to play a decent paladin deck? or are bolvar and good rag important?
>>185983190>crafting tarim when you can get him from a neutral common
i dont understand why malf is so "op"justicar6 mana 6/3, hero power becomes +2 armor +2 attacknever ever playedmalf plaguebringer7 mana 2x1/5 or 2x1/2 w/ poison, hero power becomes +3 armor or +3 attacktop tierplease explain
>>185982589The Valeera DK should have activated a blade Flurry effect when you played it that destroyed your current weapon and dealt its damage to every enemy character. This would have synergized really well with cards like Envenom Weapon and Leeching Poison because hero battlecry effects work with the keywords of your weapon (tested with Hunter DK battlecry and Leeching poison, it applies lifesteal to the 2 damage board clear).Would have been much better than stealthing yourself for 1 turn. With EW it would be a total board clear and with LP it would be a massive heal+board clear. Shadow Reflections should have stayed in your hand between turns (you can still only have 1 at a time (given at the end of your turn if you don't have one from playing it that turn), however you can copy high cost cards this way).There, I fixed it.
>>185983195>rexxar above Jaina>thrall that highwew lad
wow I love these incredibly greedy priest decksguy fucking wiped his entire board to doomsayer because miscalculated, but won regardless
>>185983247its not opits averageits an op deck
>>185983190tarim is god tier but i think maybe you can live without him in a hardcore control pally
>>185983195>hunter and rogue winrate goes DOWN if they have played their DKreally makes you think
>>185978489Geist hits the hand too.
>>185983195>anduin played winrate
>>185983247In a vacuum yes it's shit, but this expansion also gave druids the tools to deny fucking everything
>>185983295How can I play this Midrange Paladin deck without Tirion or the Lich King?Maybe two stonehill defenders to find them?
>>185983247>it's ONLY 1 more attack and armor, what's the big deal?>it's just a slightly better justicarPeople can't be this retarded can they?
give me one reason not to craft shadowreaper anduin RIGHT THE FUCKING NOW
>>185983239Tarim swings the board so much that it's reassuring to have one without relying on OUT OF MY JUNGLE. Also 3 Tirion is better than 2.
>>185983415craft tirionyou dont need the lich king
>>185983080No GeistArfus is pointlessNeeds my visionNeeds VelenNeeds MindcontrolWhy Medivh?
>>185982957This better be sarcastic.
>>185983505I crafted him, it's super fun
>>185983368because build a beast is entirely (((random))) in that you can get shit every time, but it definitely won me matches i otherwise would have run out of options in too
>>185983518Tirion is much better than tarim though.Also why not craft the one rag since you have no way to get him aside from that 2 mana spell.
>>185983502ill take 2 armor 2 attack over 3 armor OR 3 attack any day
>>185983359I don't mind crafting him, but I don't want to craft two more leggos just to play the deck.
>leeching poison + blade flurryI felt like I was onto something but then I realized you need a decent weapon equipped and then a specific 2-card combo that costs 6 mana
>>185983505If you don't like fun, you can don't craft him
>>185983415>lich kingdeathwing>tirioncraft or dont play mid-paladin
>>185983620fucking lidl players
Is there a better feeling in the game than killing some faggots doomsayer? They added it to their deck because they know they suck and you've already started to outplay them by turn 2, so they throw it down like the unskilled pussies they are. You only have 4 damage on the board, but you have a damage card in your hand too, and you take out the doomsayer.KEK. You know they threw it down because they have no answer for your early game board control, which will lead to mid game dominance and win. It was their one and only hope. A cheap tactic. And you turn around and spit in their face. The moment you kill it, you know they're throwing a temper tantrum on their side of the screen. KEK. Suck it doomsayer shitters.
>>185983524I guess he is undoubtedly one of the best legendaries to craft, but.. I want to save my dust>until the meta has settled
>>185983505hes shit. literally not lost to a priest dk yet
>>185983647what other cards do you need to pull off shadowmemes? i have raza
>People trying to play Paladin without TirionThat's like trying to enter the Indy 500 without a car.
>>185983557Geist is pointlessArfus is funVelen is pointlessMind Control might be goodMedivh is one of the highest value cards in the game
>Going late game vs a warrior>Skulking giest cucks him out of his shield slamsHOW CAN ONE CARD BE THIS FUCKING BASED?
>>185983641and THEN I realized blade flurry doesn't activate the lifesteal anyways
Rate my golden drops from packs this expansion (None crafted):>Gnash>Toxic Arrow>Doomed Apprentice>Righteous Protector>Runeforge Haunted>Icebreaker>Shallow Gravedigger>Grave Shambler>Bloodworm>Cobalt Scalebane>Bonemare
>>185983735Tirion will literally never be anything but one of the top 5 legendaries in the game.
>>185975660You'll get over run by control/ taunt Druid and you're late game will be dominated by jade. The only paladin worth playing right now is hand buff and from my experience it's just a win more card in that deck.
>>185983735Buddy, I think after like 4 years of Tirion being the heart of EVERY FUCKING PALADIN DECK EVER I would call him a safe bet.
>>185983735if you want to play paladin you have to craft him.why do you think its in every fucking paladin deck aggro to control
>>185983746Raza is the key cardKazakus helpsThen whatever you want.
>>185983623Which is why you'll be stuck rank 15.
>blizzbots desperate to spread the geist is good meme
>>185983842that card would be cool as fuck if they ported it to HS
>rogue DK is bad>didn't even get a sexy upgrade like JaniaWhere did it all go wrong?
>>185983945i've been legend more than once thoughface it malf isn't that goodit's a good card in a broken as fuck deck
I don't care what anyone says, Lich King is the most fun legendary to play.
>>185983758>Geist is pointless
I play priests like 40 % of the time. Fuck off. And kill yourself. I don't want to play against your bullshit cards.
>>185983720Is this pasta or are you autistic
>>185983720>Is there a better feeling in the game than killing some faggots doomsayer?killing it with crazed alchemist or silence and sending all your damage where you want
>>185984078>1.53% rogueit just keeps going down
>>185983505He's best boy, why wouldn't you craft him?
>>185978385Nothing, as usual. Blizzard hates rogue and will never give them good cards. They're scared of what rogue players are capable of. We're talking about people who have been playing the same deck since the beginning of the game and kept doing well no matter how retarded the powercreep has gotten for the other classes, being given trash anti-tempo cards in the class whose literal only way to survive is tempo, how many times they get their half-decent cards removed without justification (not just nerfed) from the game (rip blade flurry, conceal) while the completely broken shit in classes like paladin, mage or warrior barely ever gets touched if ever.Rogue is now finally so far behind the other classes only the very best players can even compete anymore. Rogue will stay alive though. It never dies because of all the autists dedicated to playing the only class requiring thought.
Oh, okay I guess...
>estimated wait time 161 minutes
>>185984053> a sexy upgrade like Jania? ¿ ? Jaina looks like fucking Cruella deVille now what the fuck is wrong with you
>>185984056It's better than justicar which we are talking about not "is this card good in a vacuum?"
>>185983080Thanks. I've only tried the N'Zoth version so far. I forgot that medivh was a thing
>dusted barron geddon like a year ago because I didn't like control warrior>now wanna play dk magegod damn it
Wish my list was better, and wish I wasn't rank 14.N'Zoth warrior is fun as fuck, beating Kolenton and Jackie Warlocks all day.
>>185984136Northshire and Inner Fire have to go into Hall of Fame. Now there's even a 2 mana minion that gives Northshire +1/+1 at the end of turn.Fuck off Blizzard, seriously. I remember when "just ignore Northshire" used to be a meta. Now it's damned if you waste removal on it, damned if you don't.This minion has to fucking go.
Top kek>Dicking around with DK Dragon N'zoth rogue>Priest tried to Dragonfire my board>Concedes
Waiting for Kolento general
post yfw NA cucks can't log in
>>185984280As side notesYou don't need Arfus there are better 4 maan cardsAdd GeistBK is not mandatory if you don't have him
>>185984359Skulking giest his inner fire.
>>185984364Is Bone Drake actually that good? It's just about the last card I'd have expected to revive Dragon decks in both Standard and Wild.
>>185984078Rogue and Hunter are officially BFFs
>>185984136All the streamer faggots are jumping on the Anduin OP train.
>queue up for a play session of hearthstone>play 3 priest in a row>lose will to live after each game>close gameHow long until reddit complains about priest?Since whatever they complain about enough gets blizzard to nerf it.I can't imagine anyone enjoying playing against priest ever I use to be upset about quest mage rnging a few ice blocks but what priest does is way worse now
>>185984458It's GEIST, for fuck's sake, why does everyone keep misspelling this shit?
>>185984262>looking at a woman's face >not her titsThat's pretty gay anon.
>>185984550>biggest percentage of rogue players are legend>biggest percentage of hunter players are shieldbearersI don't think so Tim
>>185984448Yeah I was planning on subbing out Arfus for something else. He's the only card I don't have
>DDoS>A batch of Servers went offline.>Army of summer normies logged on to play the new expansion on Sunday.Which is it, /hsg/?
>>185984023It would be a 6 mana 7/7, battlecry: Discard half your hand and deal 10 damage to your hero.No demon tags because god forbid adding demons to the game at a reasonable rate.
>>185984630To bother people like you
>>185984737>normies being indoors on a summer sunday
>tables full at 15 minutes>keep open because i assume there is a queue>goes down to 10 minutes>ok cool ill be able to play soon> goes back to more than 15 minutes and stays thereok blizzard. nice game.
Go fuck yourself faggots who didn't preorder it's no surprise they have trouble with servers
>>185984630I before e, except after c, or when sounded as 'a' as in neighbor and weigh.Are you saying it's literally pronounced 'Skulking GAYst' ?
>Innervate out Crypt Lord on turn 1 against Pirate Warrior.>They concede.
>>185984534Dude I don't know.Like I said I'm just dicking around.Figured it's good value with nzoth
>>185984737probably a DDoSdid a ban wave go out on Overwatch recently? If so the chance of DDoS causing this is 100%
>>185984721greater healing is good
>They reprinted Cho'Gall into a neutral common with a strictly better card text.>Before he even rotated out of Standard.Jesus fucking christ.
>>185984929Someone did the same to me when I was playing token druid. Won on turn 6, I could feel his rage while he was emoting
>>185985041erm whatbonemare is nothing like chogall
>>185984413>NA gets 10 packs as a compensation>EU gets a price increase in gold and money to compensate the financial loss of giving NA free packs
>estimated wait time: 21 minsOk I can deal with that. So Warlock is still only viable with handlock decks right?
What's the best aggro deck right now?
>>185984938I keep seeing people post their dragon dicks on /hsg/ and I just can't tell if they're just fucking around with meme decks or not.
>>185984630I love using my skulking giest with my sylvannus inside the naxxramus adventure while playing rouge
>>185985041>7 mana 9/9What does ben brode mean by this?
>>185985115Don Han'Cho, Cho'Gall, both two headed ogres with one of them named Cho, I see the confusion
So did someone make a compilation of all the shitter comments, about gnomeferatu being a good card, getting btfo. I know /hsg was full of shitters but i would have never expected such a garbage card to see so much praise
>>185984886It's a German word and you would read it like GUYst.
>Wait the 40 minute ETA.>It's done.>*Couldn't log into Bnet*Don't waste your time on that ETA, guys, it's just fucked.
>>185984886>I before e, except after c, or when sounded as 'a' as in neighbor and weigh.or in weird situations. Y'know, like if the word was German
I don't really like this expansion. It fills me with dread whenever I play the game. I play Hearthstone for a lighthearted, fun, and upbeat experience. I don't like the whole concept of evil, dead, corrupted versions of the heroes we've become comfortable with. It's not "scary", that's not the right word, it's just unsettling, Like the atmosphere in Dead Space or something. It just makes me really hesitant to click on the play button now. If it was an event where we could banish the evil, that would be one thing. But this is a theme that will be around for 2 years. Does anybody else feel similarly?
>>185985115>>185985205Fuck, that's what I meant, yeah...
>>185985159Dragon priest looks good
>>185985192Don't forget the taunt.
>>185985041they reprinted Princess HuHuran as a rare, and then again as a common spell before rotation what's that tell ya?
>>185985336I think it's a shitty theme compared to Un'Goro and Mean Streets
>>185984929congratulations, you're even more cancer than pirate warrior!
>>185985336is this a reddit pasta
>>185985041This card is honestly so good it feels like blizz just fucked up.They didnt use a big reveal for itIts commonThey didn't talk about itAlmost like they had no idea how strong it was
>>185985206My x1 Gnomeferatu in Control Warlock has burned 4 DK's already. So long as I don't need to tech one of the crabs nor Ooze back in, it's an amazing tool in Control match ups.
How's control paladin doing?
>>185985646yeah but they were on the bottom of the deck
>>185985421But at least that's Hunter. Hunter is such a bumblefuck class, it actually needs shit like that.Bonemare, though... I mean come on...
Shadowverse doesn't have this problem :^)
>playing Priest DK>opponent is Druid DK>Druid plays Geist>does nothing to me>destroys his own Jade Idols and Earthen Scales
>>185985142>check timer>1 min >cool>get in>hit play>there you are!you guys are trippin that log in was about 5 mins long
>>185985703???D-do you keep your big-ass DK in your mulligan? Gnomeferatu can be played on turn 2...
theres 1600 dust saved
So, i played some on KFT release day, and kinda drifted off for the rest of the week.Hows the meta? Any brand new cancer? Do rogue DK suck as i expected?
>>185985602>Almost like they had no idea how strong it wasThey obviously dont because that fucking druid card infestation or some shit should be a choose 1. That shit is straight up busted
Frozen Clone is a fun card
>>185985882Good for you, anon.
>>185985890rogue is pretty meh, druid is overpowered as fuck and beats both aggro and control. Skulking geist isn't even that good against jade
>>185981851What deck? Highlander priest?
>>185983505### Spell# Class: Priest# Format: Standard# Year of the Mammoth## 2x (1) Potion of Madness# 2x (1) Power Word: Shield# 2x (2) Shadow Visions# 2x (2) Shadow Word: Pain# 1x (3) Shadow Word: Death# 2x (3) Thoughtsteal# 1x (4) Barnes# 2x (4) Eternal Servitude# 1x (4) Mass Dispel# 1x (4) Shadow Madness# 2x (5) Holy Nova# 2x (6) Dragonfire Potion# 2x (6) Shadow Essence# 2x (8) Free From Amber# 1x (8) Shadowreaper Anduin# 1x (8) The Lich King# 2x (9) Obsidian Statue# 1x (9) Ysera# 1x (10) Y'Shaarj, Rage Unbound# AAECAa0GCNwBognTCtYKqKsChbgCws4CkNMCCx7lBMkG1wq1uwLqvwLRwQKZyALlzALmzAK0zgIA# # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
This fucking game needs more way to filter the collection. It also needs a percentage complete.
When does the next expansion come out? Already tired of this one.
i've played since just after beta, with a couple breaks for school/worki took a break in may again because of my work schedule. ive been legend multiple times, and i probably have 60-70% of a completed collection, along with ~6k gold and ~8k dustis it worth getting back in to play KFT? I told myself I would be done forever after ungoro but looking at all the hype is making me want to play againconvince me /hsg/
>>185973779The Rogue DK should have been 5 mana, not Thrall's DK which has just encouraged more token faggotry.
>>185985975sorry we don't all drop $150 an expansion
Convince me not to impulse craft DK Jaina and Valeera
>>185985880milling a single card is the same as the opponent just not drawing it in any match up that doesn't go to fatigue
>>185985975How many packs did you open? 250?
>>185985882LK isnt that great. He is a straight up worse Ragnaros. He have the same uses as a finisher in midrange and control decks, but less immediate and even more random.I guess he has a spot only because rag is now wild only.
>>185986120Both are bad except for very niche spots, wait until the meta settles.Or just craft them IDGAF
>>185986026Yes >>185976053I'm running Bone Drake instead of Lich King,
>>185986120Jaina is T2 bordering T1Valeera is just memes so far.
>>185985880>D-do you keep your big-ass DK in your mulligan?Gotta keep it safe from the priests
>>185986109how much do you like druid
>>185985975yeah I have to craft dk rexxar toofeels bad
>>185986120In 2 weeks you will hate yourself more than you already do.
>been playing Hearthstone like 10 hours a day since the new expansion came out>spent 100 bucks on it>all of my other games are on holdNever should have reinstalled.
>>185985975>Opened 200 packs>Got the bare minimum amount of 8 legendariesFuck my life.
>>185985336Make a deck about banishing the evil and play.
>>18598612042.9% winrate should keep you from valeera
I played this and the other guy just gave up.
>>185985890Meta has surprisingly not changed very much since release. Anduin still good but unsure if it will remain within the top tiers. Pirates still BTFO. Jade Druid players are too poor to craft a new deck yet so they keep torturing themselves by playing against Geist every other game. Hunter DK still only fun-tier for when you can't de-rank.The only change I can think of is F2P hunters are back and still finding ways to face rush you into victory by turn 6, although they definitely have their work cut out for them this time.Rogue DK indeed sucks. It's fun, but it sucks. You produce zero tempo by playing it, making it only viable if you can find a turn where you already have minions on board, therefore making it a dumb win-more card like Kel'thuzad.
>>185986110Tokens aren't even good in the current meta (unless you play token druid, because they get big fast). Too much removal, too much taunts.
>>185986387>the other guyHe was a priest wasn't he?
Any thoughts on the deck?Im thinking of cutting out x2 Kindly and x2 Houndmaster + KC and add Secret Synergy.Thoughts?
>>185985602Playtesting is time consuming and time is money! So many cards feel like they weren't playtested at all, both overpowered and underpowered cards, it's just funny. Small indie dev, understand :)
>>185986430>Devolves your taunt>Shits out a million tokens after they're removed
>>185986096Soooo how do you win when you don't go second and coin out Barnes on turn 3?
>>185986120My friend, don't craft Valeera. Even Hunter DK is more viable if you're just looking to have a lot of fun.Valeera is sooo slow and Control Rogue is extremely starved for heals.
>>185986097>It also needs a percentage completeSo retards can finally see 50 packs get them like 10% of the collection? Haha no.
>>185986739You don't, it's a meme "all in" deck
>>185986135>He implicates that my Control Warlock doesn't go into fatigue.My man...
Only deck I could put together without crafting was the DK control Jaina, feels really solid so far.I gave in and crafted geist after hitting some jade druids.Feels like I have a fair chance vs any deck I run into except Priests (greedy fucks), would recommend the deck.Also I think everything except the core of freeze/draw/clear is flexible, run whatever tech and threats you want.
I STILL CANT GET IN REEEEEE
>nobody is talking about tempo warriorI went from rank 19 to 5 and the only thing I consistently lose to is priestsPlease validate me and tell me the deck is viable
>>185983303That's only the deck winrate overall.Look at what happens when you actually get to play those DKs.Jaina win rate: 56.9%Rexxar win rate: 40.7%Basically playing Rexxar DK makes you more likely to lose the game.
>>185987110Reach legend, that's all the validation you need.
>>185987110What is "tempo warrior"?Post list
>>185986529Rogue is literally the worst class right now.
>blizzard releases a jade druid counter that absolutely decimates the deck >instead of being dumpstered it goes even higher BRAVO RAVO
>>185986940Might as well play ramp Druid at that point, famiglia.
>>185987127If you reach the turn where you play the rexxar DK instead of winning first, you've already lost*That's very different.If you look at card winrates I'm sure you're going to think Yogg makes you lose the game the majority of the time, but the truth is he's only played when you've already lost for a chance at winning.
>>185982337What's the list?
Hacker known as Anonymous here. I'm not stopping the DDoS until druid gets removed
Hows midrange/control Mage with Lich Jaina in it by the way? Does she beat jade and other popular decks out there?
>>185986387>not going for the 7/11 Heal 14 all the timePfffft.
>>185987316Fair point, I guess.
>>185987339I legit wouldn't be surprised if this is the reason for the DDoS.
>>185987193http://www.hearthstonetopdecks.com/decks/reynads-frozen-throne-scourgelord-garrosh-tempo-warrior/I use reynads list, but I took out lich king and cairne and replaced them with meme bone horses for a faster impactThe lich king especially gets killed instantly and whether you get a useful spell is completely random
>>185987127>>185983303Midrange /control-ish hunter deck is a little more reliable than DK jaina deck.The DK themselves dont follow this rank though, rexxar is weaker than jaina, but you dont get to play your DK every match, so it makes up for it.Evolve shaman was already a near tier 1 deck, and thrall only made it stronger. Super reliant on RNG, but strong.
do the games get worse at rank 5right now i mean
>>185987518Also I dont run forge of souls at all, its shit
>>185987506>>185987339Nah, it's much more likely that some aggro faggots got mad and want the control meta to end. """""hackers""""" would probably play faggot aggro
>>185987548Not if you're playing jade druid
How do you guys stop the tilt? As soon as I see my opponent is a deck I think is cancer, or even if some bullshit happens in the match I just go into rope-mode and come and browse /hsg/ while I play, I just drop my cards and leave the rope to burn each turn. Unless I bore him into conceding this can make matches drag.
Why would anyone use Tyrande over Anduin? His emotes are unbeatable.
>>185986591Is this a joke?
>>185987782All the alternative heroes are shit compared to the originals
>>185987652>2 mana draw 2>shit
>Face Jade Druid>Have Skulking Geist in my deck>Don't draw it after 20 fucking cards>LoseFUN
>>185987518I came up with something very similar yesterday and it works decently, yeah.don't have the DK but I got rotface and it has actually won me some games
>>185987782cause i hate his stupid looking face and i hate emoters
>>185987756You are a complete moron, and one of the reasons this game is so shit.If you cant handle losing like a sane person you shouldn't be playing video games.
Thinking about dropping my Ragnaros from my Reno Priest list in favor of Free from Amber. Rag has been performing pretty poorly as of late and it feels like he's been losing me more games than he has won, due to the randomness of where his 8 damage go. Don't want to spend the dust on the Lich King, but still need a late game drop, so it's either Free from Amber or Obsidian Statue, I suppose (as I currently don't have any of the legendary dragons besides Deathwing, Dragonlord).Thoughts? Really need some help with refining my list, since I've reached a wall of shit I can't get through because of my RNG constantly fucking me over, so I want to minimize that as much as possible.
Top 5 craftable legos of KFT?
Here, /hsg/, take my Buffadin and fight the good fight.It's so far 12 for 12 undefeated vs. Jade Druids.I'm greedy so I play Lich King in it, but feel free to replace it with literally anything that fancies you. Tech cards, Chain Gang, Hydrologist, whatever.
>>185987373monkeys all the way m8
>>185987506nah, Blizzard mainly gets DDoSed either in the weeks leading up to a WoW patch, or just after an Overwatch ban wave
>>185987868You probably was going to lose anyway.Geist only kills like, 2 out of 10 jade cards druid run
>coin wild growth>jade blossom>nourish mana>innervate not OP infestationJust went against this. Closed the game, maybe tomorrow I'll feel like playing again.
>>185987926sure, just give me the 12800 dust I need for all those legendaries
>DK Rexxar>9 mana 6/8: Deal this minion's attack in damage. Lifesteal
>>185987919anduinuthermalfurionlich kangthrallnot in any order
>>185986120>DK JainaElementals. Full on lifesteal.
>>185987782>hisIs Tyrande a girl (male)?
>>185987919Rexxar for funMalfurionGuldanUther for win more controlLich king as endgame filler (way too random to be reliable, but its fun and usually work)
>>185988026>I have never faced Jade Druid in my lifeTheir win condition by late game is cycling Jade Idol repeatedly over and over for massive minions and avoiding fatigue
>/hsg/ will try to refute this
I'm absolutely losing it.
>>185988135Learn to read
>>185988060But can you put a price on steamrolling Jade Druid via board?
>>185987926Lacks the tortoise that makes more tirions and tarims
>>185987861Well the deck already has more draw than patron decks did, with all the added whirlwind effectsUsing 2 mana early to fish for a weapon can completely destroy your tempo, and lategame its equally shit
>>185988224Lol is much more popular than hs ever was are these guys retarded
>>185988224straight garbageSC, CS, LoL deserve to be at least on dota level HS can stay where it is, sure, but the others are at least dota level
>>185988224put dota next to LoL, all CS more to the right, SC way more to the right and street fighter a few km to the right
>>1859879191. Uther2. Gul'Dan3. Jaina4. Arfus5. Lich King
>>185988240I read unbearable instead of unbeatable woops.
>>185988381>2 mana draw 2>shit
>>185988203They can easily spiral out of control early game and win way before idol is even relevant.
Guys am I mistaken or the meta has shifted toward heavy control. Like, even hunters play control lists. I'm not talking about random meme decks. With rexxar DK they unironically play and trade in order to go to the late game. Taunts are literally everywhere. Priests, paladins and warlocks are value monsters. Resummoning your entire board multiple times is how games normally end. I even saw taunt druids with Hadronox AND N'zoth. I can't keep up with it anymore.
>Ultimate Infestation either both in the top 2 cards in my deck or the bottom 2 cards in my deck
Why does the card art keep getting worst? The random dinos in the last pack were plain and boring and now the art has taken another dip. By next year the cards are gonna look like a web comic.
>>185988481That shit is manageable with intelligent removal, Jade Idol is the tipping point.
>>185988225Chicken best pick
>>185988550you deserve it, cuck
>>185988550>playing the cancer class like a faggot>complaining
>>185988224>hearthstone that high in popularity>hearthstone that high in skill ceilingHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>185987854The only hero skin that's better than the original is the murloc
>>185988550Just pretend it's at the bottom of your deck
I have pirate warrior, hadronox, tirion, DK Anduin, and about 2k dustWhat should I make? Was going to wait until the meta settles a bit. Also not opposed to spending 10-15 on packs if I really need to
>>185988224>brood war lower than WC3 and DOTA
>>185988368No open 3-drop slots, can't afford to play any more slow minions and you quite honestly don't even need them.
>>185984534Bone drake is AMAZING, tons of value, free yseras left and right and good stats on top, it's just the best. I even run it in a non dragon rattle priest because it's the best neutral deathrattle right now in both standard and wild
>>185988381Implying Warrior can lose tempo on turn 2. What could possibly be so important to play?
Reminder Blizzard LITERALLY lied about the reason Dreadstead was getting nerfed.
>>185987782>>185987782Beacuse Anduin looks lika fuckboi
>>185984534>Opponent gets bone drake from some random effect>I kill it and set up a perfect board to kill him>Im power incarnate>Created by bone drakeFuck that card
>>185988864Wow what a surprise. What's next the sky is blue?
>>185988864I don't get why anyone is complainigng, it's not like dreadsteed saw any play whatsoever
Any advice for ways to improve my deck? I can never get further than rank 12. I'm shit at hs, I know ;_;
>>185988667>He can't read X/Y graphs.
>>185988948Why was it nerfed in the first place?
>>185988864Dreadsteed was nerfed because it enables a 6 mana board clear that kills anything but Divine Spirit shenanigans or an Ultrasaur with divine shield
>>185987926How does this win against jades exactly?
>>185988224>brood war that low on skill ceilingHoly fuck That game is so stupidly hard to play that it cant even be considered a strategy game until you are a korean who trains it 12 hours a day and has 300 apm, only then are you able to execute things properlyIts actually horrible archaic design that makes it hard but its still "a little" harder than a fucking moba
>favorite class is Rogue>they keep getting what little new tools and strengths they find removed>still miracle Rogue over three years later, with nothing else even remotely working in part thanks to their cards being nerfed or moved into Wild>Blizzard refuses to give them strong cards>will always auto lose against a lot of matchupsBeing a Rogue main is suffering.
If you craft all DK before prologuewhat happens
>>185989005>implying Hearthstone takes skill at all
>>185989125you get a duplicate one
>>185988224>Hearthstone almost as high in skill ceiling as LoL, CS:GO and SC2
>>185989005>hearthstone higher in popularity than CSGO, League of Faggots or Dota>hearthstone with any skill ceiling above 0 in a graphThis is horribly wrong.
>>185989125Ben Brode deletes your accountit'd be really cool if getting all 9 DKs before the prologue made you get the Lich King
>>185989038No, dreadsteed + defile would go through divine shield, what you talking about.
Which class/deck involves the LEAST luck.
>>185989038>>185989075They explicitly said the reason they had to nerf it was to prevent infinite turns with Defile, yet it caps at 14 casts.
>>185989125It would be extremely risky
>>185989024Defile interactions causing OTKwhich is stupid because we now know there's cap on the number of times it can trigger
>>185989219an Ultrasaur with a divine shield would survive Dreadsteed+Defile with exactly 1 health>>185989263no one cares
>>185989219Its stops at 14 rounds for some reason
>both spikeridged steeds one after the other>one on the fucking bone skellywow guess I fucking lose xd
>>185989213>hearthstone with any skill ceiling above 0 in a graphBut it is at the 0Are you too dumb to read a graph? The x axis is skill ceiling
>>185989153what a bummer>>185989216missed opportunity
>>185989297you're a big guy
>>185989137>>185989213The chart says it's skill level is zero, you fucking mongolians.
>>185989326>Hearthstone ''''''''''''''''''''pro'''''''''''''''''''' player gets so mad he posts 2012 memes
>>185989358>>185989412It should go far into the negatives you dumdums.
>>185988961Play a different archetype
>>185989397why? just do the prologue and then craft the dks/open packs.Or do you already got all of them?
>>185986641>Devolves your tauntMost decks run 1xDevolve. There are many decks that run many taunts.>Shits out a million tokens after they're removedYou can only do that 2-3 times, if he clears it after that you're fucked.
>>185975993Dragon priest also gets the 4 mana - discover a dead minion and rez it. Not a dragon, but a huge value play.
>>185989340Someone asked, troglodyte.
>>185989254>Randuin>Casion-Mage>Evolve Shammy>Stealera>Renounce Warlock>Explore WarriorToken-Druid/Murloc/Zoo
Is Deathwing the only way Rogue DK can be good?
I thought this was funny
>complaining about Druid>Token Shaman exists and is worse that before
>Once again rogue get only shit the entire set but still alive because its classic set still too strongTeam 5 should be classified as mentally retarded
>>185989838What, so you can discard it?
>having fun with the game for the first time in months>decide to check out streamers too>almost all of them are playing priest
What will it take for people to start running silence?
>>185990051Most people have put at least one spellbreaker in their deck. You only need to see one spikeridged skelemancer to think it's a good idea.
>>185977752The funny thing is that even though they nerfed Dreadsteed because of Defile, the spell has a hard maximum number of casts anyway. See: playing it with a Grim Patron enough to start a kill chain.
is this card worth crafting?
>>185989254only rng in pirate warrior is draw rng
>>185990051Buff own back to 2 manaBuff BGH back to 3 manaDone, hearthstone is saved
>>185989938>Rogue has a 60% winrate deck like every other class>it uses exactly 4x2 classic cardsWhy are you lying on the internet bro?
Anyone found a working Freeze Shaman build yet?
What counters priest?
This thing is actually worse than Poisoned Blade.
guys i made ramp druid and im having fun and im starting to feel the cancerous growth overtake me how do i stop
>>185976064>>185977940I've been having some decent luck with this quest/dragon deck. Now that they added the 6/5 deathrattle dragon, it's a lot easier to trigger both effects.### Dragon Awakening# Class: Priest# Format: Standard# Year of the Mammoth## 1x (1) Awaken the Makers# 2x (1) Crystalline Oracle# 2x (1) Mistress of Mixtures# 2x (2) Loot Hoarder# 2x (2) Netherspite Historian# 2x (2) Shadow Word: Pain# 2x (2) Volatile Elemental# 2x (3) Curious Glimmerroot# 2x (3) Shadow Word: Death# 2x (4) Shifting Shade# 2x (4) Tortollan Shellraiser# 2x (5) Drakonid Operative# 2x (6) Bone Drake# 2x (6) Book Wyrm# 2x (8) Primordial Drake# 1x (10) N'Zoth, the Corruptor# AAECAZ/HAgLgrAKWxAIO+wHTCtcK+rACqrICgrUCursC1cEC2cEC3MECtMQC3sQCyccCx8sCAA==
>>185990198if you dont mind playing 30 minute games>>185990273jade
>>185979389Dust Malganis, Baron, Volazj and Mukla.Your remaining classic legendaries are all situational or lackluster (thalnos).I would wait before crafting anything.
>>185990286Would honestly rather use the nerfed spirit claws
hol upwhat if we play aggro priest?
>>185990051The minion fucking does something ALONGSIDE silencing. Let me draw a card, let me heal myself. Silence isn't even worth half the value of just destroying the fucking minion.
>>185990243Fuck off retard.
>>185990051I run one of these in priest. Its pretty good so far.
>>185990198yes, with pyros, nzoth, etc. is damn fun in wild
>>185986096>putting shadowreaper anduin for no fucking reasonjust whyBIG priest doesn't need shadowreaper anduin, shadowreaper anduin is for raza decks
Whats a fast mage deck?
>>185990251>Rogue has a 60% winrate deck stopped reading
>>185982345Use the battlecry - hero is immune weapon. Swinging for days.
Dragon Rogue is fun
>>185990198Elemental Mage yes. They never get to pop the block with all the healing you have. As in all elementals gain lifesteal.
>>185987518I'm pretty unconvinced of animated berserker being good
>>185991061its not good
>>185982458should have preordered
>>185989254Exodia MageIt just revolves on draws
>token shaman>any iteration of priest>otk mage>jade druidremove those and hs is great again
A jade druid just took his whole turn to figure out he had lethal with silencer. What a retard class.
>mfw ramp every single turn and then play ultimate infestationSo blizzard thinks this is a fun and interactive type of strategy?
Any good rogue decks?
>>185991384He was probably doing an epic BM just like his favourite streamer
>>185991283>Dota higher than SCFuck off Dotafag. The rest is pretty accurate tough.
>>185991384I know when I'm playing Jades I usually have something actually interesting going on on my second screen. So I don't always notice it's my turn right away. Probably something similar there.
I just remembered this cardYou guys should remember too
Cards that should be hall of fame'd next rotationInnervateIce blockFireball or frostboltFiery war axePreparationThese cards are run in 99% of the decks the of their respective classThey deserve to be laid off
>>185991705lets hall of fame the entire priest class while were at it
>>185991705prep won't be pulled as it's a combo enabler and in blizzard's face rogue is seen as a combo class
>Americans call Tyrande TAH-RAN-DA
>no warriors for like 20 games>queue tempo warrior>nothing but warrior mirrors where I basically activate all of their executes for them:))))))
>>185991660OC posters fuck off.
>>185991705>PreparationRogue has suffered enough and will never be Tier 1 anyway. Just stop kicking the dead horse.
>>185991705fireball will never be HOF Ice block sure
>>185990915Rank 48 doesn't count.
Whats an Exodia Mage deck look like now?? I didnt dust Time Warp when I got it just in case it got more support.
>>185991705The only card that is 100% getting kicked from standard is auctioneerAt this point they must hate the card because of how broken it can become and limiting with card design
>>185991615>>185991283i'm a doturd and i agree. move brood war to the right past dota and this graph is correct.
>>185990251>Rogue has a 60% winrate deckFucking where
>>185991917What's wrong, goy? Just buy packs.
>there's literally people in this thread that only play wild
>>185990286I like the idea but it's just bad yeah. It's a shame because freeze shaman is a much more interesting idea than evolve shaman again.
>>185992085>tfw I can never play it because I'm always at ~8 cards in hand and will just burn too much
>>185992125>there are people in this thread that disenchanted their wild cards to play standard
Am I the only one that has some problems with the Priest Deathknight? Every time I transform and use the hero power, the game starts disconnecting for a few seconds at random and it takes a long fucking time to cast it every time, like 10 seconds to shoot the goddamn projectile.
>>185992042>>185991615I might have overvalued the teamwork portion of Dota since I was going off the description at the bottom. Sorry friends.
>>185992125>playing muh streamer approved format>instead of the fun format where you can actually play all the cards you want
>>185992247>there are intelligent people in this threadNope, I refuse to believe that.
>>185992085>>185992201>a 10 mana card is actually strongCALL THE FUCKING PRESS
Can anyone calculate the probability to obtain Obsidian Statue from Free From Amber please? I'am really bad with numbers.
>>185991705Ultimate Infestation, Jade Idol.
I miss forsen
>>185992408>10 mana >Being an issue for druidNext you'll tell me warrior doesn't have sustain
>>185992440100% chance when you dont need it2.25% chance when you do
>>185992408More like >a 10 mana card in a class that has ramp and innervate to play it on turn 6/7 is actually brokenIt would be fine if you had to play it on turn 10.
Has mankind ever made a greedier, stupider deck than me?
>>185986308Bare minimum would be 5 with the pity timer creeping up on your 6th within 10 more packs.
>>185992334Only problem I've had is the weird graphical bug with the hero power. No disconnects or freezing though.
>>185992408>10 manawhile the opponent is at 5, yes.
>>185992401>disenchanting your cards everytime blizzard decides that its time to do so>intelligentMaybe you would understand if you'd been playing since release.
>>185992440It's priests only 8+ drop so you'll get it almost all the time with class influence. Whatever the odds for that are
>>185992047Here you go senpai.
>>185992401I'm sorry you hate fun, anon.
>>185991705you wanna retire neutral cards go for it but Class cards should not be cycled out. They make up the identity of the character. I mean look how long its take Warlock to see any interest in actual affliction type cards.
>>185992408It's the strongest card in the game by far right now. All other 10 mana strong cards have drawbacks (deathwing has you discard your hand, n'zoth has you build a deck around him and you need to have played deathrattles..), Ultimate Infestation is just "do everything with no repercussions" the card. Especially on a class that can ramp it and innervate it.
>>185992504>>185992559>>185992587Then the card is not the problemThe entire Druid class is.
>>185992732>Remove power overwhelming>Suddenly zoo isn't broken as shitNow if they could give control and mid range warlock cards instead of discard
>>185992374>Fun>Spend like 20k dust to craft all the cards you want instead of buying packs with Gold and then getting rolled over by Pirate Warriors with Ships Cannon and other shit cardsNo thanks.
>>185992732>"""identity"""Ha, there is no such thing
>>185992560You're in wild. Why choose the cuck razor over death's bite?
>>185992408>10 mana do 20 mana worth of stuffTotally balanced, especially for a class that can cheat the curve
>>185992837or just not have every demon have the discard mechanic.warlock is a class that revolves around neutrals with only removal class affects. its fuckin sad.
>>185992663At rank what, 15? Thanks anon but I don't want to craft prince 2 anyway.
>>185992896What you dont realize is once you have a good collection, you dont need much from the new set. I bough ~67 packs with gold and am sitting at ~10k dust now, I can finish all the deck ?I want by crafting a few legendary/epic from the new set.
>>185992824>He's finally figured it outThere's a reason why druid has always been top tier ever meta even without combo
>>185992824>fast mana is problematicPlease tell me more
>>185991815When it`s actually Tear-randy
I MISS FORSEN
>>185993340I don't even care if he doesn't play hearthstone, I just wish he stopped playing pubg
So I just tried if Ice Breaker thrown onto a Frozen minion with Doomerang works.Of course it doesn't. Because why stay consistent?
>>185993163This is true, I've been playing since beta and Druid has always had a top tier deck, there hasn't been a single period it didn't.
>>185992926the fuck do you mean? if im playin mage I expect to throw a fireball or frostbolt. why are they minion focused like Warlock cards? Why when playing Warlock do I have lose cards or health when trying to clear. and until theyve only had drain life to get health back outside of neutrals. cmon man.
>>185992896had a warrior quest this morning, pirates simply doesn't work right now in wild, I'm getting countered by everything thanks to all the new lifelink, cheap taunts, etc.
>>185993405don't we all
if rogue is so bad then why is mr yagut at rank 8 legend with his lidl deck
>>185992342This list if fucking retarded
>>185979419Wouldn't Druid be better? You've got a 4 card combo you need to draw, but warrior has almost no card draw. With druid, you'd got Nurture and Ultimate Infestation, and they're almost as good at stalling as warrior.
>>185993476>lidlforsenboy detected, get out
>>185993018This guy is doing pretty good with it, it seems
>>185992663winrate is across all ranks. (1900 games)here is an overview.https://hsreplay.net/decks/Ab8HBnSOO2rtJF1eo2Gbqe/#tab=overviewbtw. It at least works at rank 4 so far. terrible against druid though.
>>185992971To trigger eggs more often.
Due to lack of legendaries and the advice of anon:Replacing Lich King and Cairne with 2x Bonesteed MareHow can I replace Gromash Hellscream?
>>185993560Oh, that guy literally does nothing but play Rogue all day everyday. Blizzard has him on the good rng and match list.
this is the only correct tier listface it, rng gameplay isnt skill dotards
>6-2 in arena>just stabilized the board and starting to gain an advantage>opponent uses their fucking death knight>6-3WHY is this allowed?
>>185991968Fun doesn't care about ranks.And he was still a netdecking jade shitter.Feelsgoodman
>>185992824>>185992824Its problematic because typically druid runs low/out of cards if they ramp like retardsbut that card refreshes their hand, AND it gives them board presence AND it has immediate impact on the boardits ancient of lore on crack, and ancient of lore was nerfed hard
>>185993745>still not having grom
Im so tempted to craft prince kelesethhelp me bros
>>185993569>terrible against druid thoughWell crap, it seems druid is half my matches. I know that can't be right but it seriously feels like it. I also wish that deck used the dk at least, it uses only 2 new cards.
>>185993783>sc II>that close to BroodwarNani?
>>185993515Yes, i am currently experimenting with all classes and druid seems to be really strong. But i like to go hard way first to see if it can work. Next i experiment with rogue. This is my druidlist and its really good.### c'thun# Class: Druid# Format: Wild## 2x (0) Innervate# 2x (2) Beckoner of Evil# 2x (2) Wild Growth# 2x (2) Wrath# 1x (3) Brann Bronzebeard# 2x (3) Disciple of C'Thun# 1x (3) Drakkari Enchanter# 2x (3) Twilight Elder# 2x (4) C'Thun's Chosen# 2x (4) Klaxxi Amber-Weaver# 2x (4) Swipe# 2x (5) Crazed Worshipper# 2x (5) Spreading Plague# 2x (6) Dark Arakkoa# 1x (6) Emperor Thaurissan# 1x (7) Twin Emperor Vek'lor# 1x (10) C'Thun# 1x (10) Ultimate Infestation# AAEBAZICBtYRhRfYrALJrwKHzgL94QIMQP4BxAbkCJOtAt2tAsuvAs+vAtSvAuKvAq6wAqDNAgA=# # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
>>185992342Move LoL behind SF4 / W3 / CS1,6
>>185993783how can you put dota over wc3 in skill when dota was literally made for and by people who where too shit to play 1v1's in wc3?
What's the top 3 arena heroes now that the expansion is out and since it has higher appearance rate in drafts?
>>185994105ill be quite honest, i put wc3 completely random because i know fuckall about it. Im quite confident in the rest, perhaps shouldve placed quake more higher though
>>185993745Grom works as a finisher so something that can do the same, preferably instant damage but any high pressure should do it, if not as proficiently. Go through your collection and see what you have.
>>185993925that deck isnt going to win many games without its legendaries
>>185994169>it has higher appearance rate in draftsHeard they fucked it up and it aint happening
>>185993745>>185993745Maybe Leeroy (Burst damage and your whirlwind effect can kill the whelps) or Gorehowl?
>>185993783>LeL takes more skill than DotoNice meme>SF 4 takes 0 skillShitty meme2/10 made me repply
>>185993745>How can I replace Gromash Hellscream?Recklees Rocketeer+Inner RageLeeroy Jenkins+Inner Rage
>>185993783Every single game there is bad except for quake
I know it's extremely early to say it, but I think Rogue is the Warlock of this expansion.
>>185994403I'm trying my best to make a tempo rogue, but damn those druids ramp fast.
>>185994482Druid is so oppresive early while having insane lategame
>>185993809>its ancient of lore on crackIt's Ancient on Lore on his 4th medically assisted steroid cycle. I seriously can not believe the same guys who nerfed Ancient of Lore designed this card, it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
>>185993783sc2 is way below sc1 and below quakew3 is above csrest is fine
>>185994286>doto>skillsince when are point 'n clicks with rng elements skill compared to aiming, prediction and execution?
>I AM THE ESSENCE OF MAGIC>Priest concedes the funny part is he blew mind control on my twilight drake the turn before
there's an expansion out, there is enough activity to not require this kind of tier list shitposting
>>185994482I really, really, really want to make a dk valera deck work but fuck me I can't even go above 5 with it.
>facing druid>not playing jadewhy do you want to lose?
>>185994860He's playing token instead so you're going to get assfucked even harder than if he wereplaying jade
Thinking about crafting DK warlock and DK warrior OR DK Shaman since I have paladin, priest and a golden Jaina. Which should I craft Thrall or Garrosh?