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bully edition

DLC information
>http://nioh.wiki.fextralife.com/Dragon+of+the+North
>http://nioh.wiki.fextralife.com/Defiant+Honor
>http://nioh.wiki.fextralife.com/Bloodshed+End

Latest Patch Notes
>http://nioh.wiki.fextralife.com/Patches
>https://pastebin.com/aUkgEegD (embed) (embed)

>What does each element do?
http://nioh.wiki.fextralife.com/Status+Effects

>What should I do with the armour/weapons I don't want/use?
Check if you can donate any at the hidden teahouse for daily/clan rewards. Otherwise preferably disassemble them. You can also sell them to Tome or donate to Danjo at the Teahouse if you need a bit of extra glory or cash. Later on you'll be keeping them for Soul Matching, but don't worry about that until you get to NG+.

>The blacksmith is expensive, should I be using it?
You don't need to. Throughout WotSamurai and WotStrong you will constantly be finding better gear and builds don't matter so much. Soul Matching is expensive and intended for late game. If you do find a weapon you really like, try reforging it's effects using spirit iron, it's the cheapest and easiest way to improve a weapon.

>Why do people keep mentioning "smithing texts"?
Bosses tend to drop pieces of their armour and weapons when you defeat them. Very rarely they will drop a smithing text which allows you to forge their armour/weapon.

>Which clan should I join? (clan unlocked through progression)
Whichever one has a bonus that you think will benefit your build the most.

Beta guide:
http://pastebin.com/VEHby7kd (embed) (embed)

Smithing text list:
https://pastebin.com/d4gaLiHk (embed) (embed)

Major new shit
>More than 2 item shortcut pages available! Buy them from Tome with patronage points, adjust how many you want in settings
>Abyss mode! How low can you go? Lower go'ers get better shit
>Can now play levels with specified friendos at the Torii gate
>Most weapons now have a strong charge attack and a mobile running/dash attack! Check them out!

previously >>191659917
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DOES THE SPIDER BOSS HAS A SMITHING TEXT? PLEASE RESPOSND THIS IS IMPORTANT
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>>191870602
>big skellies and onis are the easiest yokai to deal with
>both get a new move in wotw
>oni's is a butt smash that's shit and still easy to avoid
>skellies gets the biggest fuck you attack among literally all mobs
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>>191870826
No, yokai don't have smithing texts in the base story, if you want to farm then you do it for smithing materials.
Only humans and humans-turned-yokai have smithing texts.
This is not true for 1.06 missions and beyond.
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>>191870838
the most frustrating thing about Oni's butt smash is it magically transfers the damage from behind hitbox as soon as the animation begins, even though it's back is still clearly facing you.
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Ginchiyo may be best girl, but I bet Maria is a freak in the sheets
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>>191871079
well nue has one for 2kats

also is there any complete list for smithing texts somewhere ? google just link me to reedit posts from months back
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>>191871336
>damaged and used goods
>best
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I fucking hate the Raven Tengus. They just don't give a fuck about you.
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>>191871526
oh shit just saw the op , is that list full updated?
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>>191871672
and no weak points
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>>191871672
They just punish greed, they have massive counter windows and windup.
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>>191871526
there's absolutely jack shit for resources for this game and it's kind of annoying. General was absent for a long time. The wiki is way too incomplete. There should be a complete up to date reforge list with what skills conflict each other, but it will probably never exist.

>>191871672
>>191871838
you just stay away until they're done spinning and attack their back, or catch them when they land if they come from the air.
I also think they're stupidly easy to inflict confusion on compared to other enemies.
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>>191871526
Did you read my whole post before replying? Specifically this part:
>This is not true for 1.06 missions and beyond.
Nue only drops the text in side mission added in 1.06 after the main story.
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>>191871935
They have way to much health and you no weak points or ways to punish them.
>hit twice
>evade spin
>ad infinitum
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>>191871838
>no weaknesses
Sloth absolutely destroys them. If you get hit by a tengu with sloth on, you're playing wrong. Yes, I know, I know sloth helps in most cases anyway, but especially with these buzzards. Found that out after I inflicted one with Lightning status and realized how fucking easy they get when they're slowed to a near halt.
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>>191872096
Pcfags will fill in the gaps. They'll be able to data mine too. I don't even have a computer good enough to play modern videogames but I'm excited to see what cut content is there.
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I want to fight something on battle of strength

I wanna fight a Crit LW user, any volunteers?
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>>191870838
They learned from us, Spin to Win was too strong.
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What does Mind Control talisman work on?
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>>191873887
try them out then
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>Shima Sakon was actually killed by Kuroda's riflemen
top kek
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>>191874880
BULL'd
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>>191872895
If it isn't encrypted
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>date masamune doesn't speak gratuitous
engrish

half expected some spanish thrown in there. also, is maria's voice actor the same when she speaks in japanese and spanish? i feel like they're different VAs for the different languages.
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>>191872096
You don't NEED any of these resources until NG+ where it's SURPRISE NOW THE STATS MATTER WAY MORE THAN YOUR SKILL GET GRIND, FAG
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>invincible bridge nigger fight gets a raven tengu accompaniment in WotStrong
get fucked koei
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>>191875441
That's never a problem. Besides people have already hacked nioh savegames like this, which are encrypted.
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>>191871838

Their weak point is dodge left and attack twice ad infinitum. They're seriously fucking annoying though, like half of the enemies in this game.
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>>191875983
Deplete his Ki near the edge and LW activation will knock him off 100% of the time. He also gets some elemental heads at 50% health.
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just got to WotD
does a star skill have to be on weapon when it drops, or is it possible to reforge or inherit it onto it at this point?
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>>191879870
His movesets are off. I can't parry him for free llike I can parry every other axe nigger.

LW is required? lol
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>>191880803
It's not required, it's just that he has the scummy human AI that lets him escape falling off ledges even if he's out of stamina but LW seems to properly push him off and ignore the ledge animation.

>>191880670
Yeah they have to be on the weapon when you get it, like locked skills. They're never inheritable or forgeable. Though I think the coop glitch lets you write them onto other weapons but I don't know anything about it.
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So if I'm using the Kigetsu armor, does stuff like rage and summer twilight count as debuffs? I noticed you get a tradeoff when you use them. like, increased attack but more ki damage taken etc.
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>tfw finding out all you need to trivialize sanada and masamune is improvise projectile for cannons

If this works on Maria then I'm pretty much set for the rest of the game.

>>191885103

It works with carnage and leeching as far as I'm aware, so I don't see why it wouldn't work with weapon buffs too.
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>>191886803

Sweet. I should start defiling once I hit floor 30? I'm at 22 right now
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>>191887998

It's up to you, but it costs a gorillion amrita to defile anything decent so I'd just wait until after floor 30.
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>spend 40-50 tries on Hino-Enma and Nue
>toast Umi Bozu in under five

Magic/Spirit builds were not a mistake
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Fashion is hard to make, you should be able to see changes to your character in the refashion menu itself.
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>>191888435
this would make life so much easier

i'd love to keep doing different fashion setups but right now it's so clunky to refashion and check everything piece by piece it's not gonna happen
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>>191888435

Battlewise is best set after Youngblood/Veteran

>meant for older warriors and Bill is around 47 by the time of Osaka
>got feathers on its back, representing Saoirse probably
>No clan markings
>has the shoulderbelt
>actually looks like it gives your limbs freedom of movement.
>isn't overly designed (then again a lot of the armor sets aren't)
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>>191890281
I always liked using Vassal's without the helmet and carrying one of the five legendary 1kats. Makes me feel like Samanosuke Akechi.
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Soulsbabby here seriously considering buying this gaem when I have some disposable income. Is it actually "souls like" or is it just a meme? Also because I'm borderline retarded when it comes to learning new things, will I have a hard time learning basic gameplay mechanics?
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>>191891251
It's soulslike in that it has periodic checkpoints that you revive at and you have to reclaim your experience from a grave. Other than that, it's far more like Diablo with a pretty deep action combat system.
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>>191891251

The only souls-like things that come to mind are shrines that act like bonfires, the camera, stamina gauge (averted by Ki pulse and enemies having stamina as well) and a sprinkling of the combat.

There's a tutorial mode in the dojo as well. I will say, don't worry about like builds and forging/reforging/soul matching on your first playthrough. It's so easy to respec so just try a little of everything and see what takes your fancy
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>>191891251
Also, if our resident whiny soulsbab nue-anon can get good enough to beat the real casual filter boss in just a few tries, you should be fine
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>>191891409
Is there an in-universe explanation for revivals and bloodstains like in souls? One of my favorite things about those games is that deaths are part of the story, in a sense, rather than just "lol you failed. Reset!"

Also I hear tell the combat is pretty gud. Anything has to be better than roll souls, the r1 spammening
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>>191891667
revenants are the angry spirits of the dead, they fit into lore. But revenants which are specifically the william in another players game are not explained in lore. There is no "tiem is distorted in lordran :DD" line that handwaves away the phenomenon.
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>>191891667
Yes. The main character has a spirit guardian who bonded with him as a child who allows him to cheat death eternally as long as he believes in her.
His waifu makes him immortal.
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>>191891667
oh and william has had his guardian spirit, Saorsie, since he was a wee lad. She resurrects him if he dies and even says something to the effect of "as long as you believe in me you cannot die". This seems to be a unique power of William and his spirit.
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>>191891667

William is effectively immortal/undead due to his guardian spirit, a merrow called Saoirse, who lets him basically cheat death as many times as he wants so long as he believes in her. I'm not sure about the bloody graves but they're there as extra chances to get someone else's loot/an extra enemy for the revenant summoner mob to harass you with.
People die in the WORST spots sometimes, I swear
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>>191891898
>But revenants which are specifically the william in another players game are not explained in lore. There is no "tiem is distorted in lordran :DD" line that handwaves away the phenomenon.
I thought that too until literally last night. Turns out Danjo explains it if you talk to him enough; the Williams are wandering spirits drifting in and out of the yokai realm that manifest as "the one person you know best - yourself".
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>>191892239

I thought those were visitors?

>What do you mean 'at least it was someone handsome'? You flatter yourself too much, Foreigner

Cheeky
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>>191892239
neat
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>>191892310
Visitors are the only actual William doppelgangers that show up besides Mujina. Every other revenant is the same stringy-haired black-skinned corpse.
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>>191891898
>>191891991
>>191892040
>>191892102
Pretty rad y'all. Gonna give it a whirl when some paychecks come in. Been watching a little bit of gameplay and it looks sexy as fuck
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I don't know shit about history >1800's. They've said Wirrams story is complete now, what would be a good historical conflict to set the next game in? I like how they established spirits, amrita and yokai as existing outside Japan, so it could be anywhere. Somone mention the Napoleonic wars which mite be cool. I'm sure there are a shitload of historical Chinese conflicts that could work though.
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>perma sludge
>locked amrita gauge
>purging
>enemy reinforcements

Is this the holy cross of awful debuffs?
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anyone playing this with ssd? big difference for loading times?
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>>191892829
probably Boshin war
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>when the grace fits the weapon
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way of the demon Umi Bozu kicks my ass. Feel free to bully I feel bad about it anyway.
Stage is lvl 450 I think.
Im lvl 268, my Odachi hits 1652 and my defense is 2209, with no notable armor skills-

Am i just terrible, or do I farm Weapons and armor, or levels?
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>>191893450
it's faster, but not massively. nioh already has really fast load times, you only notice it with games that have long load times on a normal hdd.


In battlefield 1 I can load into the game sometimes 5-10 seconds faster than everyone else. before they patched it out I was able to take my time choosing whatever vehicle I wanted.
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>>191893931

God that armor looks great. Thank god refashioning exists
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>>191894735
equip suzaku, spam your guardian spirit talisman and finish it off with LW
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>>191894735
nvm did it third time. Seemed impossible at first I swear. fucking WoD

>>191895334
Thanks Anon, but I'm trying to avoid LW as much as I can.
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>>191895446
>avoid LW as much as I can.
you should embrace it, you still got two more difficulties after demon.
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How's the fashion in this game? Is there a lot of cool different samurai armors with decorative horns, plates, and masks n shit? Or pretty robes and skirts?
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>>191896618
It's pretty good. Theres robes and theres samurai shit. Is okay.
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>>191896749
Rad. Damn I am legit fucken hype to start playing soon.
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>>191895724
well, if Wise and Nioh really is a LW fest, than I'll just stop playing, it's just the least interesting build I can ever think of. No offense to anyone using it
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>>191896870
Yeah, is good game. I am bit disappointed in fashion from 2 and or 3 but its still has its moments. Ih ave yet to get the stuff from the bayss but Ill like to try get it one day. Here is latest.
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>>191896981
Here onemore.
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>>191896618
still no proper straw hat, this shit is getting ridiculous
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>>191897734

What's wrong with the archers hat?
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>forge Purple Kusarigama
>Fire +4
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>>191898395
It's pretty meh and completely inferior to proper hat Sakon wears. And the worst part Sakon wears the goddamn hat since release, we have a whole fight with hat sakon and not his rope fox and we still cannot get the fucking hat, only some gay head towel toyotomi wears.
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is it worth gathering up a full armor/weapon set for your first playthrough? i got some smithing texts for some armor/weapon i'd like to use, but i'm not sure how quickly they will fall out of power and i don't know if i should be burning any money to soul match lower items.
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wat
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>>191899838
>is it worth gathering up a full armor/weapon set for your first playthrough?
Yes if it doesn't take rares to forge
>how quickly they will fall out of power
Instantly
>burning any money to soul match lower items.
No
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>>191900393
>scared tanuki off
>is surprised
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>>191899838

>first playthrough

Don't bother. Anything that drops from enemies or revs will do
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post you're dudes :^)
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>>191900527
I thought they have big balls
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>>191900821
No CCD or fami? What kinda build are you running?
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>>191900821
>earth damage

ew
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>>191901078
it's pretty much a placeholder which ended up being better than my old spear (even though earth doesn't do much), i haven't bothered with proper reforging session and i'm not sure if i even should with that base
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good criminey the thread in /v/ went to shit
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ded game
ded general
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>>191905065
>/v/
>went to shit
So everything went as expected?
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>>191905248
yap
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in terms of the deeps, is carnage stronger that power pills if we assume both skills have 30 in their respective stats?
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>>191905349
do carnage ap scales with magic power? if no rage from axe is better
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>>191905349
Yes? Carnage has a negative part for a reason
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behold, the man who can technically counter LW builds if he had the AI to allow it makibishi and makibishi balls
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>>191905502
>makibishi
>countering lw
u wot
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>>191905653
Back when the game only had battle of strength, Makibishi where a hard counter to LW due to the fact that LW's life can get RIPPED by the amount of hits makibishi does and you'd just run the fuck away until it ran out

if you were feeling BALLSY, you'd also throw a makibishi balls to completely shred LW and get a grapple
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>>191905872
Don't hit power matters more than just being hit?
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>smithing text vraja tonfa
from fukku on abyss
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>>191906109
makibishi has a shitton of hits and slows down people so you could just run from them

though, you dont even have to use makibishi balls on odachi users because it's LW is shit on pvp
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>Sarutobi
>dashgrab, 1shot

Good to see they continued with shitty bosses in the DLC
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>>191906410
>not respecting and anticipating when he'll uses it and get some free hits when he misses
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>getting caught by a grab

but seriously just dodge that shit, it's always free hits afterwards
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>>191906520
He either dashes further away when I dodge to the side or flips away.
Dodging backwards he'll just dash until he gets you

>>191906798
With Maria they introduced shitty grabs with barely any tells.
Before that you'd see shit like a dark cloud or some shit like that
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>>191906912
for me maria was something else entirely, but all the other boss grabs are easy to notice imo
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>>191907271
Holy shit they look ridiculously great
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>>191907271
dual kats when
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>>191907318
They don't
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are tonfas even good?
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>>191905502

Does the lowered enemy defense chance proc off of shurikens/kunai or is it exclusively off of bows and guns? That seems like a pretty good deal to me
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>>191907602
never tried
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>>191907079
Yeah, I wasn't trying to say it was Maria bad just still annoying.
Didn't help that he was dodging after I always got one hit, luckily I still had a decent 2kat in my inventory, much easier to hit/follow him with God of Wind
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Just beat the level where you work with the cutie magic user to beat a doppleganger in a underground tomb. Game is awesome so far. I read in an faq there is a spider level? I hate/fear spiders. Exactly how spidery is it? For example I never finished REmake because of the spiders.
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>>191908124
>I hate/fear spiders.
HAHAHAHAHA
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>>191908124
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>>191893061
>locked amrita gauge
>he needs to use LW to do any damage at all
Only thing I see worth getting rid of for certain is the sludge and maybe reinforcements, depending on the boss.
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>>191908124
VERY spidery, like pretty much completely, all the spiders you can ever not want.
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>>191908124
Spiderboss, hatching spiders, little spiders, luring spiders, bigger spiders, middlebig spiders, running on spiderwebs/nests, going into spidernests where a lot of small little spiders hatch
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>>191908124
>you aggro the bigg ass spider
>it starts running at you and breaks the spider eggs on the ground on its way
>bunch of small spiders coming at you now aswell

dunno how bad your fear is but gl hf
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>>191909575
The lurking spiders rape your face if I remember correctly
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>>191908124

>how spidery is it?

Hoo boy
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>>191909575
>>>191908124 (You)
>Spiderboss, hatching spiders, little spiders, luring spiders, bigger spiders, middlebig spiders, running on spiderwebs/nests, going into spidernests where a lot of small little spiders hatch


>>191909715
>>>191908124 (You)
>>you aggro the bigg ass spider
>>it starts running at you and breaks the spider eggs on the ground on its way
>>bunch of small spiders coming at you now aswell

Damn, well that's me done
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>>191910434
>being this afraid of videogame spiders
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damn i wish we could have those classy looking hud numbers (hp/ki/etc) that asian versions have
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>>191910975
>the visuals aren't enough of an indicator
>adding more shit to the hud
All you need is the stat page.
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>>191911301
i know they're useless but i still want them
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>>191910434
I feel bad for you, man.
If you come back here when you get to the level and I'm here, I'll let you summon me and I'll kill all the spiders before you ever see them.
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>>191910893
>>>191910434 (You)
>>being this afraid of videogame spiders
Do they look like actual spiders or like the spider boss from dark souls? I can stand that sort of thing
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>>191911751
what the fuck man
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>>191912350
anon paid good money for a great game, I don't want him to miss out on 2/3 of it. You can skip it on every other difficulty anyways so it's not like he'd need it again or need to learn a level he'll never play.

>>191911764
they look like actual spiders. outside that level there are only a few levels that have maybe 1 or 2 medium sized spiders each, and one twilight mission that has an optional spider area with the spider boss. All these spiders die really fast so you should be good after that level.
The spider boss is the only one you will see more often, she's like the boss from darksouls with a human upper body. You can smack the spider abdomen for easy damage though so that doesn't take long either.
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>>191871079
I'm sure ogress and hino enma drops the smithing text alongside with their masks
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>>191910975
What do you mean by numbers? You can get numbers for health and ki.
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Why even wear anything else?
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>>191911764
That spiderboss has a huge spiderass that she flaunts around and I want to stick it inside her
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>>191913480
What the hell is that incredible hat?
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>>191913480
Does that spin?
This is very important.
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>>191913521

This to be quite honest, gaijins. Nioh ticks a lot of my monster-girl boxes and I'm hoping that we can get our smut-producing hands on those models once they come to PC
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>>191913529
I got the smithing text from the abyss

>>191913578
No, but it's still cute :3
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>>191913907
Which floor?
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>>191913480

>not wearing the Heike/Karakawa helm and tuning into the radio
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>>191914175
108, against the very first double boss fight in the abyss
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>>191914291
Alright so probably not anytime soon for me.
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>>191914348
said fight is the toukiden cameo and the hero of france
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>>191913480
>get to floor 999
>get the smithing text for both this and the blacksmiths hammer somewhere while progressing
It's a godsend for soul matching that's for sure.
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so i finally finished NG, all 3 DLCs included. jesus that was hard. the important question is, who is best girl? all of them look beautiful. i'm partial towards maria but she's a conniving bitch. ginchiyo is cool too but she's infertile and dead
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>>191913437
yes but asian versions have better looking font, like times new roman or something like that and western version has a super plain font

again, this has nothing to do with anything but i'd still prefer the times new roman esque font for my practically useless numbers
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>>191913480
reaction image material on william's face right there
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>>191915315
in what mission does ginchiyo die? i'm not sure how but i've totally missed it
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>>191916896
she dies after William leaves and before he comes back

basically historically 1902
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>>191916896

Ginchiyo historically dies in 1602 which is between William killing Orochi and returning to England
It was a kind of cancer iirc
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>>191917013
yes of getting a dead baby from an impotent man
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>susano-o kills orochi and kusanagi tsurugi is flung from its tail
>william kills orochi and kusanagi tsurugi is one of the small set of divine weapons you get afterwards
This game is so much richer if you know a little mythology.
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>>191917000
>>191917013
uh oh okay, i know the events and characters in the game have real historical counterparts and i've read a bit about it but clearly not enough
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>>191916896
In a dlc mission where you fight together with Shiggy he says confirms it.
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>>191917163
That's fabricated for Nioh. Try and find real evidence of it.
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>>191918665
unmarked graves hide shame
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>>191918736
If the shame is hidden, how did they know to put it in the game?
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>>191918801
KT's Historical autism is second to none when it comes to chinese and japanese history, even in more serious settings like RoTK and Nobunaga's ambition series
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>tfw date masamune in abyss
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>>191919000
So you're now you're in full "talk out my ass" mode? Gotcha.

It's the information age. Cite your sources.
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>>191919124
KT? who has been doing this crap for longer then wiki has even existed?

stop trying to defend your impotent monkey
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>>191919189
So your citation to prove your historical claim that Toyotomi Hideyoshi raped Ginchiyo is that a videogame dev said so?
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>>191919338
>Toyotomi Hideyoshi raped
when doesnt he?
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>>191919437
The claim is that we KNOW he raped Moonshiggy's wife. We don't. All we know is that it's plausible thanks to his proclivities.
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Do people actually care what some long dead jap did 400 years ago?
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>>191919681
History is fun anon
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kind of surprised they didnt have a seven branch sword considering they included kusanagi
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>>191919681
JUSTICE FOR HIDEYOSHI
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>>191920480
You mean additional nuke?
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>>191917682
i know he confirms it but i somehow got the impression that that was a follow up of something else shown in the game
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>>191920587
>someone actually bothered to forge that
What is with japs and crippling autism?
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>>191920893
Every swordsmith's dream was to make a sword that everyone would pretend/believe was a divine relic.
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>exactly!

hnggghh
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>>191923292
I don't think forging a stupid looking sword and making bullshit stories is someone's dream
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>>191920893
its not even japanese made, it was made in china during the jin dynasty (369) and made its way to korea and was gifted to a yamato period (250-710) ruler as mentioned in the nihon shoki
its been encased in a non public shrine and reprisents a relationship between korean and japanese kingdoms
obviously its purely ceremonial and not possible to use but it would have been a cool onmyo scaling sword
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How would you like your damage, senpai?
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>>191923968

You hardly think at all
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>>191923968
Have you ever heard of artists?
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>>191924572
>hacking and summoning
why
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>>191924572
I'd think these people would come and pvp but I guess Im wrong
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>>191924572
Has Team Ninja ever addressed save editing? Even now, it leaves a bitter aftertaste just knowing there are still faggots like this "playing" the game.
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>>191925665
They obviously don't care and once hacker port beggar race joins the situation will grow even worse
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>summoning help

hehe
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>>191927056
>playing the game
>starting up console
>living
>being born
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>>191927356
unborn cosmic presence here, just beat the big water blob, get on my level
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>>191909728
This would probably make him drop the game honestly,
>see treasure
>oh boy
>insta rape
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This general is as dead as Ginchiyo
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im sure pc edition will draw more attention
but will it be worth the negative aspects?
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What floor is and up is the best for getting umbracite? I remember having a ton before when I entered the abyss but then I tried doing it again from floor 1 to 20 and got nothing not even normal umbracite.
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>>191914291
Weird I guess it's different drop rates, I'm only on floor 76 and have it, don't even remember when I got it.
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>>191930297
Don't.
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>>191930297

Too soon
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>WHAT THE FUCK what keeps giving me sloth
>wait, no sloth
>realize it's the fps lagging

probably the best thing about this game for me was the steady 60 fps and now something has changed, i've never seen this before but right now my game is nearly unplayable, it's that bad

it's the one-eyed dragon's castle mission, anyone else experience this?
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>>191932392
I have had some heavy lag spikes on The Grand Tournament but I don't remember it being the case anywhere else right now.
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>>191932252
>spam gay ass ninja shit moves for half an hour to kill a skeleton

is that how tonfas are in general?
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>>191932392
Not really related but yesterday I was laughing my ass off because I was coop-ing with a friend in the abyss and the lag was so bad that I fought two times against an invisible onryoki.
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>>191932534
now that you mention TGT, i had this there aswell, but there it made sense because of all the yokai realm spots and tons of loot

i don't know, maybe i've just had my console on for too long and it needs to cool off or something
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huh
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>>191928086
It's pretty smart if you think about it.
I mean people get a bit scared when they walk through a spider nest or when a spider drops on someone (worst case: face) and usually it's not dangerous at all, the spider probably fell down when it was watching the sunset.

But in Nioh it's the worst case possible
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>>191930781
How were the sales anyways?
The game is in a weird spot. Soulsfags wanted Dark Souls: Prepare to Japan while Gaidenfags wanted Samurai Gaiden (can't blame the latter) and it ended up being different than the Alphas for whatever reason.
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>>191932392
Maybe your PS4 is dying.
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>>191936712

https://www.vg247.com/2017/03/30/nioh-is-the-most-successful-game-koei-tecmo-has-ever-published-in-the-west/

>Nioh has sold over a million units in just over a month, and is Koei Tecmo’s “most successful title in the west.”
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>>191936712
Not sure how well it did in Japan but it is the best selling TN game in the West.
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>>191936712
>it ended up being different than the Alphas for whatever reason.
Like how?
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>>191937260
>[sound of alphafags stampeding toward this post in the distance]
WELL IT WAS SUPERIOR BECAUSE...
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I really want an overhaul of the storage box, having seperate tabs or custom sorting or just even on extra slot to just put in only locked items in same with being able to sort by certain ability like if you want to find all Luck pieces or whatever you want, pain in the ass just scrolling and scrolling.
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>>191937507
I don't see that much difference really outside of removing stupid crap like durability or overabundance of adds and nerfing some potentially op shit like juggling
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>>191932539
I dont think hes doing enough TONFAGUN
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>>191937260
Oh crap, I forgot the "allegedly". I was only able to play the Last Chance Trial where you unlock the Muneshige duel before you have good enough equipment and you fucking hate him.

>>191937213
>>191937209
But weren't games like Ninja Gaiden Black/2 and Hyrule Warriors also very successful?

I'm glad it's doing well. Sure it has flaws but it's still good, also it was nice to have good demos again
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>been fighting munesure-hope-you-guys-don't-do-this since the beta
>STILL periodically die to him
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*Joins in with another mob*
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>>191938779
>munesure-hope-you-guys-don't-do-this
You mean Muneshige?
The only reason why you would die to him after the beta is taking him not serious.

>>191939415
They're not that bad. I hate those floating heads more.
Or those headsnake-demons from the DLC, I still don't know how to properly fight them and fuck up all the time
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>>191939641
>the only reason you would die to him ... is taking him not serious
no my man you see
i am shit
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>>191939970
I just spend an hour to get to the surface in the second DLC2 mission
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>>191940079
there's a little nueanon in each and every one of us homie. it's all love.
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>>191937507
>Muh camera
>Muh punishing ki

But I didn't play the Alpha so maybe they are right
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>>191907271
bet that would feel really good as a dildo
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>>191941057
>punishing ki
absolute meme born from people not knowing how to play back then
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>>191941057
I played the Alpha and I think the current game is an immense improvement. That said had I spent several more hours I could've learned it but a lot of what was there was unforgiving and fiddly and just playing against what you expect. The most noticeable change is you couldn't outrun or escape pretty much anything in the Alpha. If you aggroed it, you had to fight it, period. At least I never found any leashing.

The sudden asthma bullshit was manageable, but it was incredibly, stupidly punishing for a relatively easy slip up. I don't blame anyone for wanting that shit gone.
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>>191938779
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remember the weapon durability meme in the alpha?

literally had to skip enemies if you wanted to keep your sword usable from shrine to shrine
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>>191941653
>skip enemies
>alpha's retardedly high aggro range and duration
Yeah sure
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>>191940772

That's because you use groundfire to knock things on their asses and inflict easy ailments.
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>>191941749
i remember running around with a huge horde of pirates behind me, they simply didn't stop chasing

they weren't faster than the player though so i don't know what you're all about, it certainly was possible to skip enemies
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>>191941749
>muh bottlenecks
This was my least favorite alpha meme
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Is there a list for star effects on armor yet?
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>>191942321
sure possible, until you run out of ki and that entire horde or their gay buddies from nearby area instamauls you, don't forget a single loud fart instantly put the entire area in aggro and alpha had double if not triple enemy density
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>>191942461
Nothing was as bad as item recovery only durability
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>>191941884
I retract my statement.
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>>191939641
>Or those headsnake-demons from the DLC, I still don't know how to properly fight them and fuck up all the time
basically if you don't have a high arcing overhead attack you're fucked
unless you can dodge them for long enough to shred their backs
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>theres caps on prestige stats
That fucking sucks, I don't want damage from fall.
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>>191939641
Head snake demons from DLC1 are lame as hell but their most serious attack has the usual grab cloud windup so watch for the cloud and you can handle them.

They're still awful tanky trash enemies though.
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>>191942801
If I remember correctly

whetstones where as common as arrows if you broke stuff around you
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>>191943916
No they weren't, whetstones were one-time loot and sentry drops only, arrows were rare too unless you picked ammo blessing
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Is it still nearly impossible to discord bosses or did they adjust their buildup resistance? I remember on WotW I would cast an elemental shot and the buildup it caused would have almost entirely fallen off by the time the next shot hit. Why does TN hate magic? I just want an excuse to use tsukiyomi and go full spellslinger.
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>>191944235
>>191944235
Depends on the boss I think.
Then again I put elemental debuffs on them by enchanting my weapons
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>>191943238

By the time you get all of your titles, you'll be able to completely fill out all but 2 stats, so you should be fine. It's pretty stupid that you have to level other stats to cycle to the one you want at the beginning though.
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Nue anon here. What fun shit should I do in the next region? Also, could someone explain the below difference to me

>Weapon 1
>Fire +X

>Weapon 2
>Fire Damage XX.XX%
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>>191945891
fire adds elemental effect
fire damage increases the elemental damage you inflict
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>>191945891

If you have the onmyo points, get a waterstop talisman
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>>191946004

which is better?
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>Beat Maria
>Can't transform as her
what the fuck was the point then
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>>191947502
beat her on samurai
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my god, the most fun fights I've had are at pvp

why isn't there more people doing this?

webm unrelated
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>>191947612
You need to finish the last DLC to be able to use her anyway
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>>191947612
I'm lost, I -did- beat her. I'm playing on Way of the Samurai.
>>191947831
Oh, so I need to complete two more DLCs before I unlock her skin?
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>>191948116
Yup.
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>>191947760
its fun when it's not a lagfest.
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>>191948490
you just have to try not to dodge backwards when nearly out of stamina

I keep catching people trying to run and they forget I have a big fuck sword
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>unusual armor would be the best looking set in the game if not for that big stupid shoulder guard

What other armor incorporates robes or other clothing over the armor itself? Bonus points for neutral or dull colors. None of that neon aqua blue shit.
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Tonfa can be scary in pvp
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>>191949154
It is the best looking set though, stupid mask just needs to be replaced with suwahossho kabuto and shoulder guard is not even that bad
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>>191947447
if you use element talismans the fire damage may be worth it, whether element +X is any good has been up for debate since forever.
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Is there any other set that gives bonus amrita? I'm using nioh incarnate right now just for the 19% amrita earned from yokai, couldn't find anything else.
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>>191949483

I'm sure there are plenty of effects for every weapon type that are better overall. Extra elemental damage doesn't mean much when its base damage is piss poor on weapons in general.
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You know what's a waste, having the damage reduction slot on each piece of armor, what is the point, it could have been somewhere else and you could get actual proper skills or just an extra slot to use, it's so pointless.
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>>191944235

I find it easiest to low stance a weapon with one element and guardian spirit talisman the other element. I'm still on samurai though so I can't say how well that holds up.
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>>191951071
there aren't that many good effects for armour. Plus damage reduction is a % which is extremely important in the late game. All of the ~5% values add up, if a you get hit for 10k damage 10% damage reduction is of course a full 1000 less damage you take, it can be the difference between being 1, 2 or 3 shot. With a full set of ethereal armour you'll be running around with 40% damage reduction. I would much ratehr that than another effect slot to use of +10 toughness or a 5% better chance for a human item drop.

Also running speed is underrated AF. If doesn't change spirnting speed, but it speeds up everything else. Just putting it on both leg pieces makes you far more agile. Or you can meme and inherit it onto all pieces and jog as fast as people sprint.
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>>191955216
>Running Speed only increases walking speed, not running speed
That's dumb.
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>>191955829
it would be nice if sprint was effected too but it doesn't matter. Try putting it on both leg pieces and inheriting it onto the others, the difference it makes is massive since you can strafe so damn fast during combat. I actually find more value in that than inheriting attack +50 or onto all pieces. Overall armour just doesn't have many good inheritable or stackable effects.
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>STILL can't refashion into half of the dev revenant exclusive helmets
for what purpose
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ETHEREAL
7 SLOT
GRACE
HORNED
TURBAN
KABUTO
AAA+
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>>191960691
what difficulty
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>>191960820
probs wotsamurai lmao
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>>191960691
sanada is literally easy , with 2katas and 1 kat tou just need one shot with daiba and lai sotc behind him for ever
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>want to play Nioh tonight
>end up getting distracted by Overwatch Halloween event
>end night by watching another porn documentary on Netflix
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>>191960997
>porn documentary
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Why do ninjas pose sometimes with their arms folded? It's so prevalent.
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>>191959796
she looks like a bitch in this.
fishbirdwife has a caring demeanor.
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FUCK JIN HAYABUSA, HOLY FUCK THIS GUY IS MUNESHIGE BUT 1000 TIMES WORSE
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About to buy on PS store. Should I get the digital deluxe edition? Also what of the DLCs?
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>>191961572
hes vunerable for a poke or two after he does his specal moves that make him do that same effect that happens to you when you do some special moves

like after his swallow dive you can poke his ass
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>>191961572
You're never gonna get Izuna and Flame Ninpo with that attitude.
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quick question. If i have a weapon that has inherent elemental damage, like lightning or something, if i buff it with a different element can it get the special ying-yang combo effect?
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>>191961801
I wanna play right fucking NOW but does it worth the extra 20 dollarydoos?
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>>191937560
the only thing I want is ability to sell items from the storage box directly. You can't even open it in mission, so why not?
>get hundreds of horoku dama, moment talismans, other shit I don't use
>have to take them out few at a time to sell
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>>191962393
>20usd for another extra half of the game if you're joggin for the story
>or 3 more difficulties which you dont have to do as many missions to clear
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>>191962371
you can only have one elemental buff active on a weapon. if it has a fire effect on the weapon and you use a water talisman then only the water effect will be active. if you use a fire talisman on a fire effect weapon only the talismans effect is active it doesn't stack. finally if you have a elemental effect on your weapon it gets overwritten by living weapons elemental effect. spend a weapons effect slot on an eleemntal is not as good as you might think.
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>>191964970

would elemental effects on a weapon be good for a onmyo oriented build? would dumping points in magic make elemental damage on weapons do better and make up for the lack of physical power you'd miss out on otherwise? or is onmyo just purely designed to be used as a side tool to amp up the power of whatever other weapon build you might be using? I'm still super new to the nioh experience, but wondering if a high magic build could work if i carry around a variety of elemental weapons and tote a bunch of magic tools.
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>>191965834
both omnyo and elemental damage aren't designed for pure damage in their own right. You can make a pure omnyo build, or a build focused heavily on maximising one elements damage but they will never come close to regular damage builds. They are both primarily for inflicting status ailments on enemies.
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>he doesn't slowly walk up to every boss and unsheath his weapon before fighting
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>>191967534
>there are "people" who didn't get the Good Listener achievement on their first time without knowing about it.
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>>191965834
No, because you can simply equip talismans which will do more damage regardless.
Yes, or at least I think it makes it better. Resources are very incomplete for this game until the PCfags datamine it for us, but I'm going out on a limb and saying they do scale since it always does much more than the flat +X that you can get with an effect.

You won't really be missing out at all unless you're investing everything up front. for Way of the Samurai you really only need 30 magic to get the most out of it. That's the cutoff where you stop getting additional jutsu capacity. The thing is that most of your damage comes from your weapon's stats anyways. The idea is that the talisman would be adding extra damage on top of that, and even more if it's their weakness.

The game does a good job pacing you leveling it up anyways. You can't unlock jutsu or their upgrades until you beat missions, so in between you're sure to run out of things to buy for unless you are stupid and try to buy every single skill. There's no reason to since your capacity will be capped. In other words, you will probably be investing in either strength or skill along with everything else, like stamina if you're gonna use heavier armors. There isn't really a major benefit to dumping one stat in the first difficulty. After that you can start building your most important ones up to 99.
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I will never get over how sick Backwave into Tempest looks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWhVDz4lMvg
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What was the point of Tenkai saving Mitsunari from certain death if he was going to get executed anyway?
Was it literally just to tell him he was wrong?
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>>191968262
I'm so bad at this game. It's one thing to win a fight, but another to have complete control of it like that.
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>>191969376
Katana is seriously one of the most fulfilling weapons in the game. May not be the strongest, but damn, the parries are satisfying, and the skills for it are useful and varied.
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>>191969914
katana and spear have the coolest movesets that can still be effective is use them completey. the other weapons not so much. kusa for example only has a handful of actually usefull moves. odachi adn axe are very simple. tonfas are just shit so you can be as flashy as you want I suppose.
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>>191968274
Mitsunari probably thought it would be more honorable to fess up to his mistakes. Of course, considering he burned down Fushimi castle and caused one of the bloodiest battles of the era, there was no getting off scott free. Given how it's portrayed in game it would have made a lot more sense for him to commit seppuku.

IRL it was much less honorable. He was trying to flee and got captured by villagers. Then he was beheaded in Kyoto. Since historically he was beheaded, they did this instead of playing out the redemption with seppuku.

Tenkai's motivation is likely that someone dying as a fiend with lots of regrets is the kind of misfortune that would create aratama in the first place. Instead, Mitsunari dies a lot more peacefully. Being a monk it also just makes sense that he would tell him to calm his tits and that fucking around with the spirit stones is bad news bears. In the game lore this is pretty much always his motivation for anything.
He also never told him to go back and get beheaded. Tenkai was a real person, but him being Akechi Mitsuhide is just a theory. In the same way there are legends that Ieyasu spared Mitsunari and had him live in hiding for political reasons. They could have gone with this possibility, but that's not what TN went with.

tl;dr the beheading is what actually happened and that's why it's there regardless of the game's themes and dialogue.
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>>191970201
>odachi
>simple

it can still be satisfying

especially if you use the full moveset, and susanno grace makes it a dream
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>want to use the odachi
>and tonfa
>and katana
>and heavy armor
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>>191970826
aint nothing wrong with heavy armor, you just block a whole lot more thats all
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>>191970923
I just don't know how I can efficiently spread my stats and samurai points.
I want really high Stamina so I can wear heavy armor and keep B agility and also get some damage out of the odachi, but I don't know what I can do for the other two weapons.
I'm still completing my first playthrough because I've had to restart, so I'm not too knowledgeable on all that fancy high level stuff.
All I know is that CTA A+ is lower than the natural B+ scaling of weapons.
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>>191970923
>300+ toughness
>25% guard ki reduction
>15% less elemental damage
>less elemental damage on guard
>weapon breaks
blocking is great, especially with weapons with good block attacks like Odachi.
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>tfw playerbase will spike after PC release but it won't matter for us because no crossplay
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Is there a particularly good weapon type for playing a heavy tanky/block sort of build? or just use whatever?
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>>191972964
1kat scales mainly with Heart so it'd have the most Ki through the game.
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>tfw no maria motherwife to trample my face/testicles and roughly assualt my anus
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>Siege of Osaka DLC2
>charge across no mans land to ladder, leap down
>arrows hit all around me in trench
>man, zombie, big axe zombie, and another zombie all descend ladder behind me, completely untouched by arrows.
>gun and normal zombie also in trench with me
Get fucked Koei.
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Anyone have the list for complete smithing text up until DLC3?
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>>191971717
you're barely going to get enough skill points to get all the skills for two weapons in the first difficulty unless you neglect your other stats a lot.

Both Katana and Odachi scale off of Heart and Strength so I'd honestly recommend that. Tonfa is really designed to be used with light armor, but I think a case could be made for using it with heavy armor as well. I would argue Katana has a lot more utility, though.
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>>191978430
I'm gonna be mad about this for a week. This is the saltiest Nioh has made me for anything other than stat bullshit.
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>>191979146
you mean in the trench right in front of the fort, between the second and third area?
that's really strange to get hit down there.

I don't even bother with that shit, though. I make it a point to save a cannonball for the third cannon and just skip over the other area entirely since the cannon firing from Sanada Maru and destroying the cover is so obnoxious.
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>>191979403
I made about six attempts to get shredded in the bottom of the trench before it became a zombie rape party but that's the one.

I haven't found any cannon balls.
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>>191979487
lol go back to the start and talk to the Date axe dude who's in the first set of trenches.
he gives you two, and when you load them in the giant cannon it destroys a section of the fort and the volleys end for that area of the stage.

Definitely save one for the last cannon, though. There's a cannon on the fort there that destroys your cover like I said. If you use both the other cannons first, then you're gonna have to run around getting shot at to find the last cannonball on a corpse in the battlefield.

If you're still going that way I'm guessing you're still at the first shrine so it should be simple. When you get to the second field I recommend just running straight to the right and falling in the trench there, because that lets you skip straight to the second shrine and to the third battlefield area.
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>>191979896
Eh I'm at the second shrine. Welp.
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>>191980002
yeah that kinda sucks. The cannonball should be at the top of the other side of the ladder. If you have quick-change or something you could always just sprint right through the last part to the other side. The last shrine is over there and you don't even have to worry about the volleys at all.
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>>191980185
how many niggers is the boss of this zone? Does it get worse from the DLC1 bosses?
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>>191980286
>this butthurt and only at the start of dlc2

videogames are supposed to be fun anon
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>>191980286
Really depends on how you fight him. He's a tonfa ninja and uses all the debuff items and projectiles. He's got a grab where he slides in at you and lots of evasive stuff. If you have super armor moves like flowing shadow you can murder him easy, but otherwise you just gotta catch him at the end of his moves which is pretty straight forward. IMO he's much easier than Masamune or Maria.
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>>191980829
I HATE VIDYA

>>191980852
Sounds doable.
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so i just finished that great grandpa postgame mission in the second area, tome told me to go to smithy to learn some great grandpa shit
went in there and found fucking nothing, what's the deal? What did I just unlock?
>>191873523
I'd fight you but
>paying for ps+
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>>191941057
I do think the changes to how ki pulse dodging worked and ki in general were bad, but anyone that defended the camera and the whole "running straight backward when in strafing mode" thing are fucking retards.
t. someone who beat all 3 demos.
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People actually think Nioh is challenging lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHJYMbDeYqU
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>>191968262

I've heard this song before but I still haven't been able to find it.
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>>191982431

Post your 100% WotN completion bar
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so is this game complete now? no more content releases and only small patches coming in the future?
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>>191983252

That's it. Maybe a patch or two after the PC release.
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bump before work
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>>191983397
Were these things just ceremonial or art? Kojiro's nodachi was 90cm according to wikipedia, that thing looks closer to 2 meters. It'd either be to heavy to swing fast enough to be usable, or if it were light it'd be flimsy and shatter.
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>>191978635
Anyone?
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>>191983995
zweihanders were used and they were over 2m long
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>>191984092
have you tried searching for yourself?
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>this general is STILL alive
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>>191984246
I tried, and I found it still not yet completed
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>>191978430

Can't say the Sanada don't have good aim
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>>191983995

They were either substantial shrine offerings or carried onto the front lines by crazy samurai who typically had a follower pull the sheathe off. They were always curved, and typically swung downwards. Odachi literally just means Greatsword. There's stories of some samurai using them to cut down the horses of charging cavalry
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>>191985531
They're probably just overtold stories like with normal katana, where the vast majority of people only ever held a spear.
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>Farming Amrita in WotN so I can defile some Iga Jonin gear and get a Kusa wielding ninja going
>Ryumen's axe with grace of susanoo drops
>completely change the build I'm going for
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>>191970826

>Get full obsidian set with the set's sword in your 2nd slot for CTA A stamina
>yasakani magatama
>put CTA strength on Tonfa, swap between that and your Odachi in the first slot
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Yo does the digital deluxe version of the game come with the DLCs? Game's on sale on PS store so I wanna get it now
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>>191988770

you get the season pass so just make sure you download the dlc from the store
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>>191989775
Is there no "full package" thing going out so I can just buy and download it all at once?
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>>191989904

On PC there will be
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>>191989904
The game itself downloads everything through the updates. The DLC you "download" from the store is really just a license that lets you access it.
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>>191988323
I haven't reached the Obsidian Samurai nor do I know when I am going to have to fight him, but I've heard he's a super fun fight and has a cool armor set.
Thanks mate! Can't wait to reach that point in the game!
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>>191955216
I'm not saying take it out of the game, I'm saying to put it on another part of the menu if all armor has that stat it shouldn't take up a slot just to say that.
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>>191962793
>selling moment talismans
even if you don't use them now one day you might, also the damas can be useful for some levels where you can explode the walls with the red barrels.
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>>191968262
is this fucking anime! Holy shit that looked so awesome.
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finally got around doing the grace inheritance glitch

2pc iga
2pc fanatic
5pc tate
7pc tsukuyomi

100% firearms/elemental damage reduction
56.5% damage reduction
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>>191968262

I don't use katanas but my god, those who are good with them completely control the battle
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>>191992461
Sword is probably the best non-LW weapon, or at least the most versatile
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>>191991687
I won't though. If I really wanted to use them I'd just equip the jutsu.
I've never used a stone. I'll never use a signpost talisman. Never use uchiko powder. Now that nullify damage got nerfed I know I'll never use a yokai water pot, either. Salt has it's uses but I'll probably just do ki damage with attacks instead. There's tons of stuff building up in the box I'll never use and I'd just like the option to sell it all at once.

You know what would really be great? If you could set consumables to refill between missions just like ammo. I've got hundreds of kyaku-dama I'd be more inclined to use them instead of the jutsu if you could auto-refill.
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>>191991873
So it's a defense set? Hows the attack?
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Anyone else start watching NHK taiga drama's cause of Nioh? Actual good Jap dramas plus its nice having more background info on all the clans, characters and situation.
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>>191982714
Is it Ninja Gaiden music?
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>>191993949
>Hows the attack?
good enough, and i got a pure damage build for farming the abyss anyways

i haven't tried this in the abyss yet
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>>191984181
Very few of them and those were mostly ceremonial or outright questionable (sorry i don't believe tall tales of someone wielding 2.13m 6.6kg sword efficiently enough). They were also more durable, shit like >>191983397 is obviously ceremonial, it would break fast if you try hitting anything armored with it.
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>>191994582

I think so. I know this is the music they used for the Jin fight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzGvaGzfK-U
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>>191968262
holy shit
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What should have been added as a new weapon for the third dlc? naginata, sasumata, claws or a jutte?
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>>191996140
ring staff or staffs in general
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>>191996221
I could see those complementing onmyo skills or builds
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>>191996331
Too bad those are shit
>Fucking birds have staffs
>we cannot
Are they doing this shit on purpose
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>>191996532
you can bop noggins with the spears that look like staffs tho.
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>>191997297
>spears that look like staffs
not a single one does
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Should i be wearing only light armor for a tonfa build? there's a skill that raises tonfa damage when wearing lighter armor. Is it worth the loss of defense? i can't see any damage changes on the status screen.
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>>191997785

Lighter armor lets you dash around like a madman and be super offensive in your attacks, smashing ki bars which is where the Tonfa excels. Its a ninja weapon through and through
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>>191993563

I always wondered why the jutsu equivalent of items used their own slot. Bombs and stuff refilling from storage and an option to set both normal bombs/talismans to the same slot would be neat. Have it use your jutsu version first and swap over when you run out. Then you could more naturally end up actually using some of that shit that builds up in your inventory.
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>>191981663
>>paying for ps+
eh I after all the games I got for """""""""free""""""""" and STILL havent touched because Nioh pvp is fun

still I've had my fun with it
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Does fire damage (weapon) affect LW?
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>>191994162
I've watched them before Nioh. I'm a sucker for Japanese history and just Japanese stuff in general. Yakuza movies, Yakuza game series, samurai movies, Toshiro Mifune, etc.

I really liked the Taiga starring Ken Watanabe as Date Masamune. Kinda old. Another one I liked was Yae no Sakura staring Haruka Ayase as Yae Nijima. Admittedly, I watched that one since I have a huge crush on her, but it was still pretty good. All of them are great though afaik. Ryomaden has to be my favorite taiga drama.
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can anyone recommend books about japanese history and mythology?
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>>192004825
any book about nukes
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>>192004825
Shogun by Clavell is a pretty good starting point. It's a fictionalized account of William Adams' exploits in Japan.
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>>191984181
Only Pier the Giant wielded a sword that large
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>>191982431
Is 200 in some stat actually that important? I don't get how he gets 200k on a single iai with not even having max stat in heart and mediocre equipment
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>>192006441
note there is no actual plateau where you should stop leveling up stats

gains come in waves
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>>192007942
The question is how good are actually the gains if even in 70-99 you get one point per stat at best
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>>192008365
well you get 1 point in onmyo capacity at level 100 and another every 10

not to mention in WoTN you get way too much Amrita
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>>192008608
there's still 750 level limit or something , you can't even get all 99 with it
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>>192008760
no its 1k now, and the reason for not allowing stat max on everything is so you still have to specialize
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>>191968262
God I suck so much ass at this game. I still haven't beaten him after trying for 3 hours straight.
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>>191992846
to me its always been the more defensive weapon
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>>192009904
Yep, sword has the best parries in the game
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>>192010118
more like had, shrike is arguably better now
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>>191911751
Thanks man
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>tfw I can literally kill bosses in WotN with a kick with the Tajikarao set
Thinking of using the 2 grace bug meme for the Susano grace before they patch it. Do bare handed moves count as strong or quick attacks?
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>>192008859

>1000 level limit

Nani the fuck
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>>192012648
technically 999 but with the new stat limit
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>>192012648
The real max level is 750 + a 1000 FOCUS level system for reaching 750.
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>>192012996

I have plenty of marobashi to grind it seems. Focus?
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>>192013168
its better if you just dive into the abyss
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>>192013168
It's a system where after reaching max level you can choose between focusing stat allocations in either life, defense, attack, or luck. Each level costs 3 billion amrita and you can't book of reincarnation reset it. You have to manually decide to remove stats so in a way it's a permanent decision because you can't just get all the amrita you used back.

The stats you get aren't too big only about 200 attack when I maxed out at 1000 attack focus levels but you shouldn't worry too much about it. Just play however and it'll add up.
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Is PS4 getting the complete edition? I thought I read somewhere that it was, but I can't find it on Amazon or Best Buy.
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>>192013468
>>192013582

Oh, cool. Kinda like prestige titles then? I'm almost at floor 30 is that when the abyss gets to WotN difficulty?

>Sasaki Kojiro just randomly patrolling
This is gonna get nuckin futs
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>>192010296
Shrike will never be better than backwave/tempest mastery.
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>>192015447
Backwave is a timed guard skill, not a parry. Shrike is way better than neo-haze or water shadow
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>>192011562
Nice proofs you have here
Fists have both quick and strong attacks like everything else
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>>192016123
>parries aren't timed skills
???
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>>192009334

Jin and Maria are the most bullshit bosses in the game, you might as well cheese him with groundfire or LW wild spear for a quick kill.
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mfw I smash some one with Charging bull
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>>192009334
literally all you need to do is dash sideways and him him during his recovery.
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>hayabusa dragon sword truth + futsunushi 40% lai , 100% nullify weakened weapons
>mfw
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whats better , equipment lightness damage bonus or agility damage bonus? im blue in weight
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>>192019847
Equipment lightness damage bonus is shit. Go for agility.
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>>192019254
nice glitched gear
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>>192019847
Both. Put the lightness bonus on your ranged weapon and it carries over to melee weapons. Same with equipment weight bonus. The increase is minuscule though.
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>New Ninja Gaiden comes out
>there's a bonus uber-hard boss, described as someone who has tested the heirs of the Dragon Sword for centuries
>it's William
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>>192021954
>he has permanent crit lw and throw damage x2 kinais
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>The Last Samurai
Holy fuck this level
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>>192022548

>you can get living weapon as a Ninpo if you beat him
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>>192022963
Final boss was pretty damn awesome. Nioh's main theme is so godlike.
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>>192023054
>Ninja Gaiden turns into another crit LW shitshow
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So they're going to port the NG games to PC next, r-right?
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>>192020914
>not liking the creative freedom dual set bonuses give
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>>192023909
I'm currently getting 4 pieces of Izanami but I don't know what to combine it with.
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>>192023909
>muh freeduhms
Don't cry too much when your broken ass set gets nerfed
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God damn Izuna drop just breathed new life into this game, I don't know why.
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>>192024443
>broken ass set
>nerfed
It's not even a nerf, they're just going to remove an obvious bug.
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>>192024443
I won't, but I'll have a lot of fun trying and mixing until then.
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I wonder if they'll fix the glitched sets you have or just make double graces not possible anymore
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>>192025392
It's gonna end up the same way as the original level 320 weapons along with no more double graces.
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They really weren't thinking anything with this abyss. If you aren't a lw user or a super heavy armor user everything will one shot you.
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>>192026208
>everything will one shot you
>letting yourself get into a situation where the boss or mobs can land an attack on you
You either dodge, block, or parry. It's not hard to understand.
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>>192026393
Well fuck I guess I'm not just enough of a god gamer like you who can just dodge everything.
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>>192026727
Then keep practising until you are. Is improvement a foreign concept to you?
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>>192027358
It's impossible to reach a level where I can dodge everything. It just is.
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>>192027883
That attitude is why your parents and the world are so disappointed in you.
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>>192028064
Just out of curiosity, How many hours do you have in this game? How many hours did it took to get to that level?
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>>192028151
I'm not that other guy and I didn't say I was that good yet, I just don't have such a defeatist attitude.
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>>192028367
I won't deny that my attitude is bad, but the point is my playtime is currently 766 hours and 31 minutes. I just can't improve any more than I already have.
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>>192028595
I guarantee that you could if kept trying, but I guess you have to draw the line somewhere. Accepting that mindset will definitely guarantee that you won't even do it though.
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>>192029003
First of all I'm still continuing to play not stopping any time soon. Second I'm still just as bad at quick dodges as I was back in february and I'll never be good at them.
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huh
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>>192029835

Then use quick change / guardian spirit effects / clan bonuses to survive being one shot. Or try putting on some actual armor and investing in more health. Stack guard bonuses and block more often.

You have more options available to you than you give the game credit for.
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>>192032908
Well thanks for the tips.
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>>192031976
well at least you decided to mix it up and spell it backwards this time
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new items , smithing texts , special bonuses from the abyss fucking when
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>>192034789
never
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>>192034789
never
KT announced that bloodshed's end would be the last content update
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>William joins in on Warriors All-Stars and becomes a blonde Lu Bu within minutes

Can anything stop this madman
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how about complete list of that shit from what we got so far
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>stuck on The Last Samurai
>summon for help
>Im_2_Vi$ci0ss
>don't expect much
>wearing full gold nioh
>tears through the remaining two bosses like they're tissue paper
>mfw he really was too viscous
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>>192034973
>gets summoned into a musou game
>What the hell am I doing here?
>kills a bunch of furries
Is Saoirse his Diao Chan?
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>>192034789
The real question is what TN is planning for in the future as their next big title.
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dead as fuck no way we can make it until pc release
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>>192039548
How is critLW even supposed to work in PVP?
You can rarely get down to critical health safely.
And you know, LW builds is based on the opponent not just dodging the fuck away.
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>>192039745
this guy tried it, but I know that something like two sword or spear is much harder to dodge in pvp
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>>192039460
I don't know jack shit about vidya studios but isn't nioh made by team ninja or is KT and TN the same
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>>192040116
TN is a division of KT.
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>use book of reincarnation
>press x to learn
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>>192038020
i played r&c2 online for an unreasonable amount of time

anyone that had a sensible username including me sucked ass and anyone with a username that was gibberish or dumb as fuck was a monster
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>>192041431
What the fuck, did that game have online support?
I only played local multiplayer.
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>>192041431
yeah, going commando had the best mode in the series too, siege
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holy christ janomecho is cute
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Just got an ethereal sword as a mission reward when it said it was going to be divine. Did not know that was possible
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>>192040570

Thank all that's good that they patched out having to wait for the skill learn effect to play out before picking the next one.
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>>191870583
How is the discussion going? Is it starting to die out?
I haven't been to the last couple generals since I was busy with studies and Ninja Gaiden, and there would be little point in watching the thread when I'm not even playing.
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>>192044134
It's pretty much dead until PC release.
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>>192045132
We're already past that point?
It's a shame, but to be expected, this game just has no lasting discussion for some reason.
I'm glad the PC release will have more people talking about the game, though. At least that's something to look forward to.

It's funny, how Nioh barely managed to be talked about while Dark Souls and Bloodborne have separate generals that still get activity without problems.
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>>192026208
Abyss was designed for LW. You're SUPPOSED to be running LW or go home.
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>>192045649
but Im all the way in floor 140 and Im not a LW build
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>>192045780
Clearly a bug. Will be fixed.
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Alright I give up how do you make LW last as long as the folks in the meme builds? Best I can do is like 20 seconds.

>>192045620
Souls and BB are ez as shit compared to Nioh.
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>>192045976
add extraction talisman
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>Nioh: Two Kings
>Beat Shige and Honda
>Hanzo
>"I... I was merely jesting"
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>>192045976
>Souls and BB are ez as shit compared to Nioh.
Easier than post game for sure, Nioh's mistake isn't exactly hard, but I don't see how that makes the games be discussed more.
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>>192047081
>mistake
Mid game*. Had a small lapsus there
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>>192046138
Is that the one that gives more amrita?

>>192047081
>>192047207
I dunno I'm just memeing.
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>>192047401
Then shame on me for falling for it.
Does the "deepest lore" from DaS really add that much? Each weapon has its own gameplay, which adds a lot of variety to it, but I'd at least expect Bloodborne to be quieter by now, given how it's more limited.
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>>192048963
Honest, non memeing answer? Dark Souls is easier to replay and document. Sure you replay Nioh several times if you care about the NG+ bullshit but you've shown your skill by then and it's just a Diablo/Grim Dawn style loot grind.

Some fags like the grimdeep lore of Souls but I can't stand it. But what Souls DOES do is the arcade replayability. Since the loot is predetermined, the game is just much easier to just replay. The only fresh start anyone in this thread will see in Nioh is gonna be when the PC version releases because who wants to risk trashing their 200 hour max grind save where they one-shot all bosses on WotN?

Souls is probably also just lucky; Salt and Sanctuary deserves more discussion by all those metrics. Better plot/lore to it too.
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>>192049630
The fact that you can't respec freely in DS1 is why I replayed it the most honestly.
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>>192049630
I personally like Dark Souls' lore. How it's presented to you in small bits and pieces and you're encouraged to put it together, it's a cool idea, but I also feel people blow it out of proportion. I personally doubt it's this big masterpiece where everything connects with everything in obscure ways. I feel they're more that, bits and pieces, with some being bigger. Granted, I've played only DeS, DaS1 and 2. Maybe it was different in 3.

I have to admit, I never thought about Dark Souls as arcadey, but it's actually pretty appropriate. For example, if you want to make a Lucerne build in DaS1 you only have to go down to the Catacombs and grab it. The game really rewards knowing it, and it's pretty well done when it comes to that, imo.
Nioh, on the other hand, takes way way longer to get a build going. The payoff is much bigger, obviously, but it takes a lot of dedication to get there.
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>>192050926
I feel like Nioh could have been a bit more creative with their item discriptions. Generic usable items and set equipment tend to have alright description, but most generic equipment just has some variation of "This [equipments] was forged in the [name of province] province by [blacksmith].
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>>192051369
>"This [equipments] was forged in the [name of province] province by [blacksmith].
well thats how it was like for most swords
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>>192051529
That is true, I just wish they could have put in some tidbits about how it was to be a ronin or some lowly villager during the period on the more generic sets.
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>>192050926

The fact that you have to play through about half the main game to unlock all your skills kinda hurts Niohs first impressions a bit, I think. On your first run it takes a good 20+ hours to get to the point where you can actually use all your skills. The diablo loot is a huge turn off for a lot of people, too.
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>>192049630
>Salt and Sanctuary deserves more discussion
I agree completely. I've gotten a few friends into the game and they absolutely loved it to no end. I'd love talking to more people about the game.
Sadly, this is a Nioh general so it wouldn't be good to just start talking about the game in here.
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>>192053502
I was eyeing up salt and sanctuary before nioh got my attention, I should probably go back and look into it.
When I can tear myself away from the grind.
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If I defile a low rarity accessory will it fill in the extra slots with new effects to match the new rarity?
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>>192053890
no
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>>192049630
>risk trashing their save
I feel like I heard something about this before. Is there really some problem with the save system?
I've had multiple saves since this summer and never had any problem loading any of them.
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>>192054660
It was a risk when the game first came out. You couldn't make a new game save without the risk of overwriting your old one, but they patched that pretty early on.
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Thrown Weapon Damage - XX%
(like on Nekomata)
"May increase thrown weapon damage"

What does this mean? Is it an XX% chance to increase damage by an unlisted flat rate, or an unknown chance to increase damage by XX%?
Or is it just worded wrong, and "May" is there by mistake?
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>>192053890
>>192054128

What the fuck do the devs have against getting decent fucking accessories??
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>>192053837
I'll try to use as few posts as possible because I don't want to shit up the thread. I'd recommend just screenshotting the posts or something because I'd rather not repeat it. At least these posts will help keep the thread afloat?
The game is a metroidvania. People like calling it a "souls-like" I fucking hate that term but all that you can really compare between the two is that there's a stamina system, which many games have, and a roll to dodge, which many games have.
Go into it with wanderlust. You'll want to explore every single little nook and cranny. You might go someplace and want to go somewhere else. Sure you could teleport, or you could explore and open a gate only to realize that the game is interconnected and every area makes some sense on where they're located.
A "spoiler" about exploring. There are hidden walls, but you have to open them with the interact key.
Choose any class you want, but the easiest to start with are the Paladin, Mage, and surprisingly Pauper. All your class does is start you with a couple bonus levels with an extra stat point in a couple places with two skill nodes filled out.
The bigass fuckin' tree that you fill out to improve is something that you should look at before spending any points in. Think about how you usually like games and fill out some nodes toward that.
Focus more on skill nodes instead of purely stat nodes as they give stats equal to rank. For example, Rank 5 Swordfighter gives 5 strength at the cost of 5 Black Pearls, which you are given upon level up and a few are found in the world. You can also find very few Grey Pearls throughout the world to refund a single stat, NOT SKILL, a STAT node for a Black Pearl. This can be done to remove unwanted stat nodes but keep the skill node. For example: Rank 5 Swordfighter requires one Dexterity node to reach it. Upon getting Rank 5, you can spend a Grey Pearl to refund that Dexterity node but keep Rank 5.
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>>192053837
>>192057161
The balance of the game is kind of fucky, but it's not as bad in NG. The "tier list" is as follows.
Strength>Magic>Dexterity>Wisdom
Strength is overwhelmingly powerful, as you'll be melting bosses in seconds.
Magic was nerfed to not be as overwhelming as it used to be, but now it's still very powerful if you can manage Focus, which will be touched on later, and also invest purely into Magic. You'll basically turn into a spellslinging monstrosity if you purely go for magic with complete abandon and ignore the other stats.
Dexterity isn't bad, but not great. The fast attacks and the ability to use ranged weaponry well comes at the cost of very low damage. You'll be spending quite a bit of time fighting bosses since you're damage isn't too great, but you have some flashy weapons and are able to use bows, crossbows, and guns efficiently.
Wisdom is pretty much fucked. All they have going for them is healing. That being said, they can get some pretty rad weapons come mid/late game, so don't be discouraged at all to go for Wisdom.
In NG+, only Strength and Magic are viable. That being said, don't play NG+. It's god awful. Your offensive, and for the most part defensive, capabilities cap before NG even ends, so just start a new playthrough or try some of the built in challenges.
Armor favors heavy much more than light. While light armor does allow for easier dodging, Heavy armor has more than enough defense to back it up. One of the best heavy sets gives 50-60%+ damage reduction across the board and a more specialized one gives 70%+ DR against elemental damage. Light armor is pretty pitiful with extremely low defenses in all regards, but has some unique pieces of armor that give bonus effects, such as +10% more damage or a few stat points.
That being said, heavy armor is fucking heavy. My main character has 73 End in order to mid roll with high ranking heavy armor. That's a lot of points a light armored guy can spend freely.
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>>192053837
Salt and Sanctuary borrows a lot from Souls. Iframe dodging or shield tank blocking is more important in most cases than Castlevania positioning, which is pure Souls. The forging and stat systems tend to be pretty similar to Souls, too, but he has covered them better. And the world is this big explorable open nonlinear thing in ways that the Soulsfags pretend Souls 1 was but is realized far better here. The game is so full of interconnecting secrets and loot it's incredible. The arcadey design of Souls is well-realized here too and it really does beg replaying. I haven't done NG+ but I have done a couple different playthroughs.

He's dead right on the balancing. Which is normal if you remember this is the dev of Dishwasher, where the Cloud Sword, Chainsaw (in Dishwasher 1), and other heavy weapons are all stupidly more powerful than anything quick. The boss design is really good, and I griped about the iframes but you can really see the dev trying to make certain attacks ones you have to jump rather than block/iframe among other things.

The lore doesn't hide much, and it's revealed at the finale, but I really thought it cooler and more imaginative than Souls "Fat zombie knights somersault a lot because this world is all dead and shit forever and ever."

>>192053183
Diablo loot sucks really, and the only reason I tolerated it in Nioh is it didn't matter for the entire first play except for just stick on the biggest number. Then I'm pot-committed at the DLC and have to figure it out or rage quit.
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>>192050124
To be honest I replayed 2 and BB most despite 2 having the easiest respecs but that's simply because the parts of 1 that are bad are so irritating I can't stand them on replays (Forest and Anor hikes. Every post-Londo level. Heaven forbid you have trouble with O&S, Gwyn, or the Shadownigger in the DLC because the bonfire hikes for those range from 1.5-5 minutes.)
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>>192058350
The roll tiers are as follows:
<25%: Very fast roll
<50%: Fast roll
<75%: Mid roll
<100%: Fat roll
100%+: Slow walk
You can pick any of the tiers you want, but I'd recommend never going over 75%.
Stamina is very important to manage, as having low stamina will affect how fast and far your rolls go.
The wound and fatigue systems are somewhat important to consider, especially as a heavy armor user.
As you take damage, you begin to become wounded and your maximum health is reduced. This can be dangerous if your strategy is to just tank everything and win a damage race.
As you expend stamina, you will start becoming fatigued, which decreases your maximum stamina. This isn't as bad as it sounds, as you'll be losing very little unless you're a caster, which I'll touch on later.
Both of these recover upon resting at a shrine or sanctuary.
Creeds are basically covenants. You align yourself with one and they provide goods and services based on which one you're in. Each one has merchants, magic teachers, and the like, but some have unique products that can only acquired from that one creed.
Here's the thing, you need to treat your creed like a woman. Don't cheat on 'em. You place your creed's idol at sanctuaries where you can place NPCs there for services. Cheat on 'em and they don't like you as much. Some things are restricted from you until you apologize in the form of "absolving sin." Only change creeds if you know that you want to be in the one you've found.
A brief note on the interconnectivity. I completed roughly the last ~40-50% of the game in reverse. I managed to explore to the point of getting to the other side of a bunch of stuff and started fighting the bosses from the back of their rooms.
I'll move onto magic in the next post, since I don't know how much I have left in this one.
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>way of the nioh
>hard
I destroyed that shit with my 200+20 gear.
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>>192059313
That said, I like 2 but fuck Iron Keep.
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>>192059749
t. critLW shitter
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>>192060238
>t. critLW winner
ftfy
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>>192059496
I'd like to note. You can have two loadouts that can be switched out on the fly. Learn to utilize both loadouts no matter your build.
Magic comes in three forms. Spells, incantations, and prayers. Only prayers work from Wisdom. The rest is from the stat Magic.
You can manually aim spells and ranged weaponry.
You have two spell tools. Wands and Staves.
Wands are wielded in the offhand and you are able to equip one spell and switch the spell anytime you please inside of the equipment menu. This spell replaces the block button.
Staves are wielded in both hands and allow you to equip two spells. These spells take up both the weak and strong attack buttons.
Incantations and prayers are not equipped like spells. Instead they are put in the item bar and used like items. These doesn't require equipment to use, but still consumes Focus just like spells and prayers.
Focus is essentially the MP of S&S. As you cast, it expends focus as well as causing fatigue. This can build up very, very quickly if you get too trigger happy with your spells and ignore any items to alleviate Focus and Fatigue.
Magic, for the most part, falls under two elements. Fire and Sky. Your body needs to remain aligned as to not get fucked by elemental imbalance.
Elemental Imbalance is when you cast too much of one element. As you do so, you'll begin to become very, very weak to the opposing element as well as start injuring yourself by casting spells of the same element.
For example: Cast too many fireballs and that lightning bolt is going to fuck you up when it hits you, but casting another fireball is going to damage you as well. You'd need to cast your own lightning to balance your body out. So learn to mix up your spells and elements.
There is a ring that you can find, or start with if you're a Mage, that completely nullifies elemental imbalance so you don't have to give a shit about it. There's also a ring which increases damage but worsens the effect of elemental imbalance.
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>>192059496
The creed system seemed like "second play only" nonsense to me. The game doesn't do jack to tell you why it would be a good idea to betray for one of the extra creeds. You start with three to pick from to begin with and there's no preview of what cool stuff they've got. Who wants to risk losing fast travel, shops, and bonus restock loot.

I mean I like the mechanic overall but it's pure wikibait as it is.
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>>192060451
Spells are actually pretty interesting. There's more than just fireball and big fireball.
There are spells which summon a cute little elemental that'll hit enemies or turrets that'll be more ranged help. There are complete lightning storms around you. There are spells that can orbit you as an offensive "shield."
Some extra notes. You can delay all of your attacks that aren't in the air. All you need to do is hold the button and you'll delay them. Air attacks and spells will make you float while casting, so you can perform some hilarious tricks by jumping and just spraying fire in a big enemy's face.
A huge, huge tip. Use a stone leader and get them the items they want. This deepens the devotion to your creed and not only lets you get rarer items and spells, but also gives you a choice of refillable items upon resting at a shrine or sanctuary of the same creed.
Oh. If you see a unicorn, DO NOT FIGHT IT.
>>192060625
I completely agree.
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>start new game as tonfa build
>hop in the warrior dojo and fight the master
>wooden training weapons for every weapon except tonfa
>literally a weapon commonly made from wood
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Do Bonus for Absorbing Amrita effects not always trigger? I got one for auto-recovery and nothing has happened after about 4 kills.
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>>192061162
you already do a billion attacks with the tonfa so getting mastery up is easy?
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>>192061672
It's much easier to get up with higher ATK weapons.
Getting the Tonfa to 300k took considerably longer than doing so with the Odachi.
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>>192061162
it's pretty bullshit, especially since they're in the game as you duel Hanzo tonfa vs tonfa.

>>192061672
I think his point is that you can't use your main weapon at all. And this is the case for every dojo mission except for the Mystic Skill unlock mission. Imagine playing the game for the first time, only investing in Tonfa, and then being forced to use weapons you're unfamiliar with and without any skills?
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>>192064492

they don't it be like it is, but it do...
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It's a shame that we don't get to fight Kato Kiyomasa. I really want William to kick his ass because Kato is known as christian fetus butcher
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So does this game appeal more to souls fans or ninja gaiden fans?
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>>192066473
to onimusha fans
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>>192064492
Imagine playing a game with two weapon slots and only ever expecting to use one weapon type ever period.
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ginchiyo a cute
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>>192068279
barren womb
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>>192068820
impotent monkey
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>>192068952
>questioning my seeds vigor
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>>192069126
>failure to impregnate a whole harem that you have to take a bastard that might not even be your own son to be heir
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>>192068952
If Chad Muneshiggy couldn't get you pregnant then that's one you.
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A testing dojo where you can spawn in anything you've defeated would be hella fun
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rate

>izanagi 3 pieces
increase attack from life rec( helmet with auto rec for amirita absorbing so i have this bonus all the time on)
ccd 13%

>susano 6 pieses
ccd 13.5%
strong attack damage 17%
quick attack damage 22%

and master swordsman x3 30%sotc ccd13%

and i still have 6 slots for 2 extra ccd

is this a gud build for 2kats? what should i add

also kato cca 17% skill damage 23%
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Going back to DaS3 is so jarring after playing Nioh. it's not worse, but it feels like you are moving around underwater. everything is so slow and floaty, even the cloth physics look like they are floating in water.
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>can forge kingos armor with loads of centipede fangs
Do these niggas really expect me to farm that shitty boss a dozen times to make this shit?

>>192071784
it is worse.
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When should I start forging armor and what armor set should I forge? All the pvp dudes are wearing the light red armor but light armor is trash and causes even more one hit kills than normal.
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>>192072620
>forging
for what purpose.
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So I can Jin drops his kusa and armour smithing texts regardless of dificulty? Was told the sword smithing text was Way of the Nioh exclusive
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>>192072620
you get a lot of these shits by disassembling divines but you get more for ethereals :^)
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>>192072620
>centipede fangs
thanks for talking me out of getting Kingos on my current new character, anon.

>>192072786
it's pretty good if you want to carry a set bonus through way of samurai, considering other effects won't really matter at all. Pretty effective for the Raging Bull if you're going Heavy Spear as you can trade glory for the rare mats and just forge it once per region.
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>>192072834
I got armor, kusarigama, and the two skill texts on way of samurai.
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>>192073158
>spending glory when waifu transforms cost so much
never ever
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>>192072768
There is never any point to forging.
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>they're going to nerf wild spear
Just fuck my shit up senpai.
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>>192059120
The diablo loot style is "ok", but as a mechanic to provide replayability I think it fails. Playing WotD with WotStrong gear is for me at least no more difficult than it was playing WotW with WotD gear. All the difficulties are like that, you just have to make adjustments to your loadout and using better stuff and the new difficulty becomes more of the same. WotN takes this a step further where even with well optimised and levelled gear it's still difficult because the bosses are stat walls. Nioh lacks a well thought out multiplayer aspect. The game is much more focused on PvE. Everything from lack of invasions to virtually uncapped stats encourages this. Souls games have effectively got capped stats, difficulty across NG's isn't huge and the longevity comes from the online portion of the game with the various PvP and coop aspects.

With souls you potentially do multiple NG's to create a specific build and can use that effeectively in both PvE and PvP. The way builds vary and how you make them encourages people to do multiple playthrough of the game as well as using the different aspects of online play. it keeps people coming back. meanwhile in nioh you play through the game to get a better build so you can keep playing thriough the same game so you can....? Got to the abyss and fight the same extremely bullshit bosses 20 times each? Coop with other people and dunk on levels so hard there is barely any challenge at all? Duel people in the broken and dead PvP system? As much as I like austically grinding for a perfect build it feels pointless doing it and it's understandable many people don't even bother going past WotD, if they get there at all. I don't want to see nioh 2 become nioh souls, but I think they need to make some fundamental changes to the progression and online portions of the game that make it worthwhile to stick around.
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>>192073273
>being a waifufag
the game has so many good armor aesthetics like hell I'm turning into some dainty whore who is tiny and makes the weapons look awkwardly large.
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>>192074258
>broken
I dont see it

unless you're fighting third worlders, it shouldnt be a problem

and I'd rather have Nioh's respec system then whatever souls has

like holy shit I dont want to replay large sections of the game just to play a spec, I just want one save file
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>spend ages in the first DLC mission as visitor
>host gets para'd and wombo'd by a fucking umbrella 2 minutes before Date#1
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>>192074258
Souls PvP is terrible and the people who play it deserve what they get.
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>>192074528
the only real problem with it is the netcode, which still isnt bad

tell me anon, why is it bad besides that?
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>>192074523
Umbrellas are retarded.
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>>192074464
broken in that the no limits version where you bring your own gear is pointless because of the uncapped stats and way gear can scale so wildly. the skilll mode or whatever you call it is decent, but is only one small feature of online. imagine if souls games ONLY had a duelling mode, with limits. What's the point in crafting special builds? That issue is magnified in nioh because crafting your build with the diablo loot system is such a massive part of the game.

the respec in nioh works because nothing you do is binding for your character. you don't have starting classes, you aren't locked to a specific NG and most importantly you don't have to spend a ton of time or resources grinding a certain set of gear. in souls you can basically plot a route you take to build a character, you know where X items are, what level you need to be and so on. plus running through the game is much faster.
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>>192074638
they growl you block, what's retarded about them?
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>>192074258
>get build so you can get different build
You mean find out which gear sets you like in Way of the Samurai, getting all divines of that set, and then carrying that same gear all the way through Way of the Demon with soul matching? If you play into endgame it's more grindy, but it really isn't all that bad early. If your'e doing every mission on each difficulty it pays off and with umbracites it's too easy to just make what you want and carry it through until you unlock ethereal.

>>192074464
>not wanting to play the game
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>>192074915
>broken in that the no limits version where you bring your own gear is pointless because of the uncapped stats

actually not really, stats are diminished ,which I think all the + stats are not acknowledged, and level matters very little from my experience, I went from 7.5k hp to 4k hp, what matters more is build synergy

basically you have to have ethereal at this point, and thats it
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>>192074959
If you have to ask, you'll never understand.
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>>192075330
Never understand what? They just punish mashers.
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>>192076763
lol everything in Nioh punishes mashers.
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>>192077042
everything except crit LW which by a wide margin the most powerful, easy to use and easy to make build of them all
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>>192077296
they should have a new boss mod for abyss that automatically pops a makishibi ball whenever player does LW and they start running
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>>192076763
autism.txt
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Just booted up the game for the first time since April and oh god what the fuck
>Can't remember how to play
>Can't remember what skills are worth using
>What the fuck was I doing with so many different items
>What the fuck are builds
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straw hat when lads
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I just used a book of resurrection. How come when I was level 400 whenever I increased a skill it would give me 4-6 skill points yet when i do it now it just gives me 1?
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>>192079439
because you now get more skill points the higher your level
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>>192079730
So how do make sure I level up properly to get the max amount of skill points? Or does for instance, capping skill at 200 from levels 1-200 not mean you'll miss out on the skill points you'd get from leveling it when you're a much higher level?
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>>192080164
samurai skill points is determined by level not by any stat
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Current progress: Could be better

Hope this defiling business works.
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>>192082590
>daiba
>saorise

what the fuck are you doin
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>>192082938

I'm going to work, I'll just have to beat him later
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Thank god for umbracite.
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>>192082590
>leaving two modifiers you must get rid of asap
>still using shitba shitshi
What the fuck
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>>192084142

>shitba shitsi

I'm not optimistic given the description, but can you explain why Daiba is bad? It does everything I need.
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>>192074630
Shit netcode, enforced, built around ganking, extremely boring as souls don't have a proper combat system and often it's just rollspam until someone gets a backstab
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>>192084542
>built around ganking
>backstab
are you sure you're even playing the right game?
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>>192084502
The only thing it does is increase equipment drop rates from humans (literally useless). Its stats are terrible, its lw is terrible, the talisman is utterly inferior to mizuchi and there's no reason to use it like ever, especially in abyss.
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>>192084740
Yes i am, soulsshit was always a boring ass backstab fishing fest.
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>>192085236
you cant even get a back stab in this game in pvp what the fuck
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looks like I'm staying on 1.19 forever then
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>>192086727
http://sihmar.com/nioh-1-20-update-patch-notes/ atleast post lolmachinetranslation
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>>192087027
>◆ Fixed a bug that “Masuda Yukimura” does not drop equipment and formulas for “Japan’s best armor”
>◆ Fixed a problem that “Masuda Yukimura” wearing a white jackpan of “Mugen Prison” does not drop “Last Generator” equipment
poor grinders.
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>>192087027
the machine translation is unreadable, I don't know why they post that garbage. Just wait for an actual translation instead.
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>>192087027
>abyss mode and WotN dead because only a tiny fraction of players care for NG++++ content
>majority of players who did it used crit LW because it's the only fast way to get through the hundreds of floors

endgame content playerbase confirmed kill
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how do you disable updates on ps4?
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>>191911751
Thanks man, I'll let you know
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>>192087027

>For kusarigama skills “Ran Tenryu”, revised upward to reduce the use time of martial arts

I'm gonna assume this means they sped up Renegade Dragon somehow
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RIP Nioh
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I wonder if they are going to even attempt to deal with hackers on the PC version. if people are already hacking it on PS4 it's going to be out of control on PC.
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>>192057161
>>192058350
>>192059496
>>192060451
>>192061108
Jesus Anon you really like this game, I beat it once and I literally only used a mace and went pure attack and did just fine didn't struggle at all or anything, I think the jumping attack is just to powerful or something it definitely has balance issues I think but I only played it once, no idea if the updated it or anything. Anyways back to Nioh.
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>>192091060
Yeah, I really like the game. Strength is just way too strong in that game. If you really want easy mode, make a Scarfrichter. You'll melt the final boss in no more than eight seconds. Perhaps try a magic build? I don't play mages, but the little I tried one was extremely fun.
I don't plan on using the transformation unless I find someone I really like because I prefer seeing fashion. My only question: Does anyone have a screenshot of the Revenant transformation? I thought it was funny that you can become one but I don't want to spend the glory on it.
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>>192073436
but you can get star skills.
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>>192087616
I'm still trying to get through WotW and clear the last dlc in WotD. My progress has slowed right down since I'm focusing on reforging and trying out different builds since I'm dealing out shit damage in WotW
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>>192080610
I wonder what their sex is like
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>>192091246

Prepare for disappointment. The revenant is butt naked
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>>192065754
>At the battle of Hondo, he ordered his men to cut open the bellies of all pregnant Christian women and cut off their infant's heads.

Christ, this is some Nanjing shit
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>>192091540
>not wanting to roam around like butt-naked corpse covered with mystic red writing
You probably transform into maria like the other shitters here
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>>192091540
That's actually kind of funny. As far as I am into the game, I'm using the Nue mask purely because it's really goofy. I'll probably get a more serious looking helmet eventually but for now it's the Nue Mask.
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What's the highest Luck you've seen on a Yakakani? I only ever got one and it was 19.
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>>192092036
Who gives a fuck about yasakani now? Go farm mirrors until you get one with set down bonus
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>>192092084
>not having yasakani with yokai damage, LW enhancement, luck+ on LW

yatas are garbage
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>tfw crit doesn't activate during lw anymore
RIP in pieces most abyss builds
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>>192092679

>Rage still synchronises with Kigetsu's debuff bonus

All good here
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so the new patch erase all your gear with 2 graces?
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>>192092798
>nerf to attack x2 ruined axe intensity builds

i wont ever stop being mad
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>crit LW nerfed

wow so instead of one shotting everything with crit moonlit snow to the back It might take a extra hit or two.
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>>192092679
wtf this isnt a god damn mmorpg why are they nerfing everything and making the game more of a fucking chore than it already is
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lmo pcucks will have the gimped version they will never now of the good ol' days
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>>192092679
>tfw critLW build
>only just got back into the game
>abyss 20
CUT MY LIFE
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you can't nerf me faggots
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>no buffs for 2kats or tonfas

why even update
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>>192094152
not even memeing, I'll leave mine on 1.19. Already cleared all of Wotn, 2m glory from all the coop I've done. I don't need online anymore. I was done with the game already so I'll just leave it as is, maybe drop into abyss every now and then and work to floor 999. Probably not though.
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Okay has anybody ever seen an accessory with both CCD (poisoned enemy) and status augment (poison)? I'm beginning to think they share the pool and I'll never get my dream accessories. Why the fuck did they not put in a poison grace set?
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>>192092909
This. I'm getting angry just thinking about it.
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Did they fix the shit that your first hit causes no damage?
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>>192094919
not poison tho , but they are kinda the same

>>192094849
same here i will leave it at 1.19 , i will make some crazy builds with the 2 graces shit until i get bored , i don't have psn so i not missing anything and this is probably the last update so no hopes for new stuff
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What are some decent guardians to use with tonfas? I just started up the game for the first time again since release. I grabbed the wind bird right off the bat since tonfa seem to be more evasive/aggressive style weapon. Any guardian tips and/or maybe armor set tips for later difficulties?
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They're going to make wild spear useless aren't they?
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>>192096106

Nekomata has the bonus ki damage which go well with Tonfa. Kara-Jishi is worth using as well, since it's easy to trigger its attack buff. Also worth looking at is Enko for its strong attack and grapple buffs. Both of which get a lot of use when using tonfa
If you pick up the Sarutobi set then you might want to consider Itokuri for the permanent paralysis, which can open up an enemy's back for that sweet charged heavy attack (I forget the name but it's one of the new skills added in the 3rd DLC)
Worth noting that when you stagger them if you're quick enough to hit them again whilst they're recovering, they'll be grounded for a killing strike. If I was at home I'd record a webm showing it.
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>a new magatama can be found on way of the nioh
>bringing it to tome allows her to reforge accessories
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>>192096779

awesome advice, this alone is enough to give me something to strive for when i get off work later. I'm still pretty early in the game, but so many of the tonfa skills look and feel great, i can't wait to unlock more of them. Cheers, friend. These threads move slow enough they are easy to follow, so if you wanted to post some neat webm stuff that would be stellar.
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So no more living weapon when I'm almost dead to avoid the boss killing me? What the fuck is wrong with the goddamn devs.
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>having fun? fuck you, have a nerf
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I had no idea there was an actual African samurai.
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Hahaha now all the critLW shitters have to literally pull the plug.
>>192097486
What are you talking about?
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>>192098261
>implying I should practice and die a hundred times instead of being able to cheese shit
Sorry. I don't have autism, so I don't find getting better in games worth spending hours upon hours for.
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>>192097864

Has Suzaku been nerfed that hard?
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>>192097486
fake news
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>>192098475
I don't use Suzaku. When I'm in the red I always activate living to keep from dying. Now I don't get how I'm supposed to avoid dying if I get cornered if living doesn't activate in a crit state.
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>>192098574
It's the opposite. Crit effects don't activate when you're using living weapon.
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>>192098616
Oh, well that's fine then. I don't use crit effects anyway. Wew. Started going crazy there.
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>>192091060
He's even more autistic than me but I don't blame him. S&S is that good.
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>>192098350
To be fair crit LW players were some of the best at the game. They got farthest in abyss fastest and understood the game system better than most.
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>>192077858
Just restart. Every patch that comes out just nerfs something new so it's basically a different game at this point.
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>>192098841
Then why punish them?
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>all these people in NG+++++ forgetting the magic of the first play of Nioh
Haha enjoy your soulless loot grind and OHKing all the bosses fags
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>>192094919

I really wish accessory types had more limited skill pools instead of having access to fucking everything. A lucky roll on a blue accessory can make it more useful than a purple or above, so you are stuck manually looking over hundreds of the fucking things for any random combination of shit for whatever the hell builds you may want to do.
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lul fuck this update i haven't even experience crit lw yet, gonna backup this shit before it's too late
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>>192099012
I remember how much fun alpha was before they nerfed that too.
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>>192099097
Eh most of the alpha fixes were improving their amateur shit
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>>192099061
How do you stop a game from updating?
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>>192098841
Yeah sure.
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>>192099206
actually i just noticed you can do that by going in the consoles

>settings > system > automatic downloads

you can disable the update auto download there
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>mfw finding kodamas in siege of Osaka
IT'S DANGEROUS OUT HERE LIL NIGGA GET TO THE SHRINE

>finding dying soldiers
lol owned fag
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>>192098042
The first black weeb.
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So at what point do you stop getting skill points for proficiency with a weapon? I'm looking to branch out / respec but if I can still get more skill poonts for sucking with spear then I feel like I should stick with it.
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>all those people saying they weren't gonna nerf it
> they nerfed it
Now that's what I call a "top laugh"
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When else would you bother with crit besides LW anyway?
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>>192099989
I think it tapers off when the meter above the stat is perma full. I'm pretty sure it stops by the time you reach the 50k for the special mission for it
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>>192098841
Can confirm. critLW kusa Chad here. Had the platinum in the first week of the game and got every single title in the game.

I am unironically superior to you to you virgin non critLW betas and this clearly upsets you. Stay mad scrubs.
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>>192098475
Literally every enemy worth shit has steal amrita gauge on hit, suzaku and other lw effect on 0 hp is even more useless than ever now.
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>>192100281
desu with pretty much anything outright oneshotting you you can still run crit for massive damage boosts
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>Crit LW nerfed
All of the shitters will have to learn how to play the game now I guess.
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>>192102275
Go ahead, tell us your learning results later
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>>192100065
Seriously this
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>>192102440
>t. mad crit LW user
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>>192102687
>t. shitposter pretending he's not just as trash as a typical crit lw abuser
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>wild spear can't cheese enemies anymore
Fucking shitty devs. It's fucking useless now. It just misses and drains all your stamina.
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>>192102984
Now you know our suffering, don't you just love random slice: spear edition?
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>>192102984
You're only allowed to play with a few dev-approved builds.
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how do i get a susano kusa, cannon, rifle and odachi?
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>Version 1.20
>*Adjusted game balance
Hehehe
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>>192103660

You get lucky

>>192102984
What changed?
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>>192103728
More nerfs, like every patch
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>>192103660
you don't because susanoo is a shit meme
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>>192103728
It drains more ki, and doesn't turn as well anymore. So it sounds to me like they made it useless for stunlocking and making things easy.
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>>192103834
your post is a shit meme
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>>192103851
And it was never good for anything else
>>192103920
Whatever, go waste your armor slots on a shitty set
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Which axe/hammer should I make into an Izanagi?
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Has there ever been a game besides this and Hearthstone where every single update, including going from alpha to beta builds, made the game less fun in some conceivable way?
Nioh could have been a great Bushido Blade meets Onimusha mashup with some Ninja Gaiden and the only good parts of Dark Souls mixed in based on the alpha, yet instead they turned it into some grinding trash that emphasizes the worst aspects of rpgs and diablo-style loot systems. Infinite aggro, actually challenging yet fun basic enemies, air juggling, all removed from the alpha because Japs cried about the game being too hard and didn't want their weapons to break.
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>>192104262
Any generic probably, fancy ones all have some useless element or ability tacked on. The worst part is that axe of judgement fixed perk somehow interferes with ccd, this is stupid.
>>192104274
Destiny
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>>192104262
Genno's Hammer.
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>>192104082
>getting this assblasted at what sets people use

>>192104262
slayers axe or that new axe are okay choices
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>>192104632
>earth
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>>192104636
Ryomen Sukuna Axe is the one right? I might have to test that Ki Recov. bonus now.
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>>192105072
Just don't forget to refashion it, it's ugly as sin
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>>192105072
yes, thats the one. it seems pretty solid and it even has 15% ccd built in
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>>192104274
I miss infinite aggro. Trolled so many people in alpha when visiting by pulling the entire map on the Nue stage, many lolz were had.
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>>192106216
Haha epic upvote
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>>192106262
haha epic kys stupid faggot
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>>192104274
The alpha was lame though. So many people who praise it didn't spend much time with it
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>>192106915
It still was a far better foundation than the boring, slow and grind-heavy diablo-like we have now. Yoki used to actually be threatening in the alpha, yet by the beta they were slow as molasses. Stealth was also far more important too.
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>>192106413
I was just giving you your epic lolz no need to get all niggery about it broseph
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>>192107079
>Yoki used to actually be threatening in the alpha
No they weren't really, just more aggressive. And alpha was just as much of a chose as current patches make the main game.
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>>192107217
>being this much of a passive aggressive faggot
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>mfw all these little babbys who cant handle that their snoozefest build got nerfed and cant live without it
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>>192107461
>giving mad props is passive aggressive

Don't be a spic
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>>192106216
personally i cant wait for PC for just that reason: mods.

give me alpha mob density and detection radius.
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>>192108292

>tfw no internet when nioh came out
>cleared through all difficulties with just a basic samurai build without jutsu

Path of the masochist.
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>>192108915
Way of the Samurai and Strong werent very difficult to begin with, it wasnt until WotD where things became really unbalanced
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>>192108451
>counter signaling reddit is giving mad props
Stop being a kike.
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>>192109227
Honestly even on WotD i enjoyed the red enemies and greater difficulty.
I thought with WotD and something like the devil may cry's bloody palace or diablo's rifts (an infinite dungeon of sorts, which we now have as the abyss) would be about perfect for an endgame for nioh, since any more than three runs of all what, nine? regions would be a huge fucking slog for any newer players.

I got my wish, but had two nine-region slogs tacked on top, which sucks.
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>>192108915
>tfw learned about quick change scrolls after completing first region in wotn

some parts might have been easier if i knew earlier lol
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>>192107079
>he thinks the game wouldn't have been a diablo lootgrind in the endgame if the alpha hadn't been changed
How can one man be this naive?
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>>192110381
Considering that weapons could easily break it's likely there wouldn't be as much emphasis on gear.
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>1.20 is live

did they take away the dual grace gear? i didn't have any and i'm curious
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>>192110586
>breakable weapons
>LESS emphasis on gear
Impossible. It probably just means the focus of the grind would have been elsewhere, like grinding to forge weapons with a high durability stat and then trying to roll stats that lower the degradation rate or something. I seriously doubt the game was ever headed down a path drastically different from the one it ended up on. The mechanical differences from the alpha are superficial for the most part, certainly not integral enough to spur a total overhaul of the game's ultimate direction.
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>>192110629
yep
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>>192099989
when it hits 300,000 the proficiency bar remains full permanently and you stop getting skill points
however you want to go to 500,000 with each so you can unlock the dojo missions. Beating all the weapon masters unlocks boss rush missions where you fight them.

It's better if you wait til way of the strong to grind them all up, though. If you do it in way of the samurai it will take forever, but later your proficiency will go up like crazy. If you fight every enemy in Death to Bandits on way of the strong while wearing your best two proficiency bonus accessories it will bring your weapon up from 0 to 300k in one go. I imagine if you had an inheritable bonus weapon skill and passed it around each weapon type you might even clear the 500k each time.
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>Special effects that depend on the player being in critical condition will no longer activate while using a living weapon
AHAHAHAHAHA
SHITTERS GET REKT
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>>192110586
Nioh doesn't have much emphasis on gear until the post game which is the sole driving mechanic of the post game. The game had leveled loot with random stat boosts even when it was breakable. Total wishcasting to assume alpha had any other endgame in mind.

Alphafags all looking through rose colored specs
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>>192102984
is flowing shadow safe?
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>>192111378
YO WHAT
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>>192109448
>muh rape culture

Dude just fuck off. I take back my epic upvotes.
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>>192111378
intriguing
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>>192111303
Just endgame of first play or DLC1 is a fine time for it. Sub in the weapon as your alt for mooks for three levels and you'll hit 500k guaranteed. Takes all game to reach that on your main
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>post your yfw when you weren't a critical memeing weapon user
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>>192111378

What niggatry is this?
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>>192111905
>endgame of first play or DLC
so literally right when you unlock death to bandits?
I'm not saying to grind the level, just that if you wait till then you will spend much less time using weapons you don't want, or ruining your set bonuses since it's hard to get yasakani before the DLCs.
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>>192111378
am I seeing this right?
inheritable star skills, now?
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>>192111378
>3.8% reduction and 55 toughness

that's like.. a lot, right?
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>>192112423
>55 toughness

for boots yeah my unusual has 39
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so how's wild spear now?
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>>192112701
it's shit.
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Checked the options menu
>Auto-Refill consumable items from storehouse after mission ends
fucking finally, consumables are viable without being tedious. Will finally be able to use the 500 kyakudama in my storehouse.
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>>192112184
link?
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>>192112894
https://imgur.com/a/Cf4ca mou anon
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>>192112184
Shame TN is messing up their own characters. That's the Mysterious Samurai, not Sakon.
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>>192113325
I still don't know what people keep calling him that.

give me your damn hat you bastard
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>>192112280
Set bonuses don't matter that much first play. Perfect time for experimentation and the late game early NG+ damage scaling makes it a good speed and you can always pop your main back on for bosses or tougher enemies.
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>>192113007

Jesus that's a lot of fixes
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>>192113007
>still nothing about broken english(uk) gear names and descriptions
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>>192114812
didn't even remember about that

the whole "just switch to US english" fix never worked me
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can you stack the dmg buffs of leech and power pills?
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>>192115698
jutsu buffs cannot stack
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>>192112184
>rope foxes so hard he achieves flight
And yet izuna instantly becomes semi-useless on William, those obtained spirits are really jobbing it
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>>192116078
damn, i was hoping they'd stack because once is ninjutsu and one is omnyo, oh well
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>>192116323
Izuna's talisman ability is utterly pathetic. Even Aya-Komori has a more useful ability.
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>>192111378
>the only star inheritables are useless ones
wew
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>>192116486
Didn't you get the memo? Critical builds are now trash tier on par with light armor. That's a top tier effect.
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>>192116676
It's not retard, the effect is slow as hell and stops right as you leave critical. Tanuki has it and it's worthless outside kensei
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so how are you guys dealing with GET YOUR GUNS ON
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What are the Star softcaps? And are there any stats/weapons you guys would suggest investing in early on? Still haven't decided what weapons I want to focus on my first run through
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>>192118853

Experiment. You get respec books thrown at you left right and centre and on your first playthrough, any gear you find will carry you through.
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>>192118694
Bait the lunge and punish until his ki breaks and then smack him around like he owes me money. When he calls the fathead I just spam kunai until his guard breaks then rinse and repeat. It takes a while but what do you expect when I die in one hit from everything he does.
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>>192118853
There are no softcaps. Stat bonuses come in waves, e.g. over the course of three levels in heart (not actual figures but an example) you'll get +1 damage, +2 damage, +4 damage, and then the next level will give you +1 damage, the one afterthat will give you +2 damage, the one after that will give you +4, etc etc.

Invest in literally whichever weapons take your fancy. There are no penalties to just levelling whatever the hell you like, because unlike Souls there's nothing in the game which locks you out if you're above a certain level. If you feel like you've invested poorly, just buy a book of reincarnation and respec, but there's very little irreversible damage you can do with your stat choices.
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>>192118694
since i have 100% ele damage reduction, most of his attacks mean jack and shit to me. i just pound him until his ki breaks, then pound him some more.
i hear you can do similar with 100% firearm reduction, and that's a lot easier to get.
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>>192120536
I like to think William isn't actually immortal it's just that Saoirse has clairvoyance or something and tells him about shit to watch out for. Like in that scene she warns him about Hanzo sneaking up behind him with orders to kill him. Obviously it doesn't hold up in gameplay in which Willian and Saoirse are separated but I like to think it's more than just "lol he can't die". None of the human bosses are surprised when William comes back for a rematch after having just been killed and in the NPCs in co-op missions react to William dying with what amounts to "oh fuck we're boned". Maybe it's some timey-wimey shit or alternate paths/universes. Or like Saoirse goes back in time to not-dead-yet William and gives him the heads up.
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I half expected Masamune to use his six swords in the rematch duel in DLC 2.
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>>192121549
Think of it like Groundhog Day. In gameplay, Williams dies and "wakes up" at a certain point before his death with complete memory of it, but it technically never happened.

Also, in the very first mission at the tower of london, he gets fatally shot and falls into the sea before the power in Saiorse's feather brings him back to life, so it also works that way too apparently.
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>>192122027
>Saiorse's feather brings him back to life,
maybe if he dies in water he can get resurrected
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>oh an opening!
>*reads your input and counters the punish*
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>>192122076
That'd make sense, that's how Saiorse bonded with him in the first place.
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>>192122170
might have also implied how he turned blond considering the reunification
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I got 20 fabled umbracite even though I've never had anything to do with critical effects.
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>>192121549
I was under the impression that the orb he views the vision in belonged to John Dee. It makes sense as his whole thing is being "100 eyes" and my theory is he was missing an eye because he used it to make that orb. His whole thing was hiding out behind the scenes watching everything while his homunculi do all the work. William blinds him, then looks in the orb, and decides to go back to japan.
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>>192122472
You get one for each piece of gear you own with an affected effect, maxing out at 20. Doesn't matter if you never used them.
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>>192122903
Oh okay
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>>192122120
>not running a ohko build

It's like you don't want to play how the devs intended.
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>tfw finally beat sanada + saske-kun on wotw

i'm literally not gonna be able to do this on wotn if i patch the game and lose the possibility of cheesing sasuke with wild spear for free
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>>192108883

If all I get is a mod to make auto recovery silent like the hot springs regen, I'll be happy.

Seriously, the constant audio cue for each tick of regen is obnoxious as fuck.
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>>192124130
I just beat Sanada before Sasuke can do anything

with odachi
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>>192124470
i had few tries where i brought sanada super low after sasuke drops in but one kunai to my ass and i lose my cool, had to do the fight in three parts to keep it together
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Why did I star abyss floor 68 with two debuffs already off?
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>>192125556
I dunno some times I start with 3 debuffs off
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>>192125556
>>192125614

Read the patch notes
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>>192125614
Weird
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Just got home and the patch is downloading. Has anyone tried out wild spear? Is it really that bad now, or is it still usable? Honest opinion.
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>>192126046
Still usable, seems like it uses Ki in LW now
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>everything gutted post DLC 3
>absolutely nothing buffed
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>>192126624
how badly did they adjusted the the 'steering' with it? like how well does it turn now
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>>192126676
>everything
iai says hello
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>>192126676
>still no 2kat and tonfa buff
>still no red enemy HP nerf
>>192127060
>iai
>buffed
u wot
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>>192126624
>seems like it uses Ki in LW now
Nvm, I think it bugged out for me before

>>192126705
Steering is p bad but it still tracks well against humans
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>>192127178
i was referring to your comment that everything was gutted.

literally the only things gutted were wild spear and crit LW (aka "i dont actually want to play the game")
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>>192127937
>x2 attack and nullify damage not also thrown down the shitter with the release of Bloodshed's End
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>>192127937
It was not my comment though but pretty much everything was gutted somewhere down the line, outside of already shit things and iai (would probably get gutted next)
>i dont actually want to play the game
I want to play the game but devs don't allow me to do that, remove boss tier healthbars on bigger enemies and oneshot paradise and then it would work.
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>tfw all this has just been a big beta test for the final pc version
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>>192128275
>I want to play the game but devs don't allow me to do that, remove boss tier healthbars on bigger enemies and oneshot paradise and then it would work.
or you can do a proper build
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LW is still very good, instead of 1 shotting some bosses you 2 shot them now instead
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>>192129036
>everything gets nerfed just in time for the pc release
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