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>>191985127Learn to enjoy it, because you'll be suffering up to T6. That's when proper CV play actually begins.
First for OSHA
>>191985767At least CV gameplay isn't slowly crawling to a point, while bombarded from max range by clubbers and constantly being on fire the second combat starts.That said, is there any shipclass that works well as a brawler? I'd rather play the objective than sniping.
>>191985913'Brawling' is used to describe the optimum engagement for KM BBs, but it's not something you can do on your own initiative - the game needs to develop appropriately, which is kind of rare. From what you describe, it sounds like DDs would fit the bill. At lower tiers, USN and VMF are both pretty good at contesting caps. At higher tiers the former remain just as good at it while the latter get worse in exchange for raw gun power. KM DDs are a bit weedy at low- to mid-tiers but utterly dominate caps at the highest levels.The nice thing about DD play is that there is almost always an active play to make which is a good move, whereas other types of ship are often best served by playing defensively.
>>191985791Is there a problem, officer?
>>191986359Guess I'll give the burger DDs a try, thanks.
>>191987781>Using the old citadel ribbon>Implying Minotaur is a CAShit. Start over.
Why do I see so many people in queue but I always get put in games that are 1 v 1 with a ton of bots either side?
>>191990619If you're new to the game you're queued only against other noobs. Knowing WG you may well be seeing the counters for the general queue anyway.
Post yfw Bismarck gets an alternative sidegrade hull that has all secondaries replaced by 128mm DP turrets (like the ones on B-hull Gneisenau) and all 37mm guns replaced by 40mm FlaK 28s (like the ones on Prinz Eugen).
B E N I S :DDDDDD
>>191991240Sounds like a straight upgrade to me. What do you think the downside of such an arrangement would be?
>>191992059Not him, but I guess less penetration damage on destroyers? Then again you could meme it back with IFHE.
>>191992059I assumed the loss of the 15cm secondaries. I'm probably overestimated their effectiveness though and didn't account enough for how effective the 128s would be compared to the 10.5s.The 40mm is definitely a straight upgrade though.
>Maximum Wait time is 40 seconds>Been in queue over 2.5 mins>Players in your range 10/75>Get put in game with 1 other person and the rest bots.Does this ever get better because this is a pretty shit starting experience?
>>191994341Nigga you're on EU and you get to farm all the flags and achievements by killing bots, shut up.
>>191994842I'm on NA
Now this was a battle >dude, secondaries are just a useless meme Would have survived too if not for one last TB run from the GZ
>>191984997isn't peniscola another name for semen
>>191995078Are you playing the blue co-op battles? Battles against real people are in the ranked battles, with the red logo. Check what it says in the thing next to the large orange button with "fight" or something on it
ded gaemded thredded botes
When will we have a real /wowsg/ clan on EU
>>192004901When one of you poorfags decides to spend a month's salary on a new clan
>>191995078Are you playing as carrier?
Please tell me how to git gud in the Myogi before I kill myself
>>191994341I'll explain.The game puts new players in a separate waiting queue for the first couple dozens games or so to avoid sealclubbing and/or prevent them from getting tired of the game too early. Since that queue is typically pretty early you'll typically ended up with a couple human players in each team and the rest being bots. Don't worry, it improves as soon as you get a few games under your belt and get put in the "normal" queue.
>>192008357By using free xp to skip that garbage.
>>1920083571) select slowass enemy BB without a cruiser or DD close enough to help him, all ahead full in his direction2) shoot at other things while you move toward the BB, try and sink a crusier or something3) TENNO HEIKA BANZAI
>PA DD get smoke with 60 sec duration and 60 sec CD>Basically a permasmokeWTF, I love China
Finally got past that fucking Myogi and sold her asap. Actually having some fun with the Jap carrier. Makes me wonder, how are the US carriers?
>>192016865>how are the US carriers?shit
>>192016865Bogue is horribly broken, the rest is inferior to Japanese carriers in every way that matters.
>>192016865USN carriers are shit.If you go strike setup you lose to IJN in AS and strike, if you go AS the IJN carriers will still do more damage than you if they even get a single plane through but generally you just make both your lives miserable. Midway used to be OP as fuck.
quick run down on the strat for the new halloween?
>losing 12vs10how is this even real
>>192016865Reminder that at T6 you will be able to manually drop/strafe planes.
>>192016865Langley and Bogue just outclick you because lmao no alt-attacks. Independence, Ranger and Lex are trash. Essex and Midway are decent but still worse than IJN. Saipan is p2w and Enterprise is quite good.
>>192014616Beijing Smog Simulator 2017
>>192016865I find Independence(1/1/1 ofcourse) better then RJ, Ranger and Lexi are inferior to their weeb counterparts because of lack of fighters in stike setup but still can be ok if played right, Es sex and Midway are good."USN CVs are bad" meme has to die.
World of Warplanes 2.0 was just released, is anyone here going to try it?Also no no /WoWP/ general so I wonder if its dead on arrival
>>192019040What achievement did that Yamato get?
>>192019605Lower carriers are still better on their tier since there's nothing on low tiers that can stop planes. It's common to see 2-3 kills per carrier on tier 4.On tier 6 Clevelands and some higher tier ships just shutdown any possibility of carrier strike.
>>192022389I am not saying that they are bad, I just remind he will need to learn art of manual drop on T6
>>192019605Can't wait for that, it's infuriating how dumb the AI bombers are
>>192021170Guess I'm also grinding towards USN carriers, then. Just tell me, are their BBs as painful to play as the Myogi?
>>192023235No.USN BBs are the opposite kind of painful.You have lots of firepower, adequate armor if you angle correctly, but your are slow as fuck. By t7 you still go 21 knots, while everyone else does 27 or even 31.It gets better at t8.But all BBs except RN are useless shit at this point, so why bother.
>>192023235South Carolina and Wyoming are way better. But you're still going to get shit on by all the Orions and Bellerophons and you're incredibly slow.
What do you think Charles Bronson's favorite ship would have been?
>>192023235as with all battleships, they get good around tier 5. all or nothing armor is good, good gun performance, but 20kt standard-types all the way up to tier 7. they're the archtypical battleships, big, tough, FUCKING slow
>>192022142Kek, that's pretty good.
So I put flamu's implosion to the Wii menu music:Have fun with ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_8DfM5Hkc0
>>192032551i don't get it. the guy died in a cruiser because a battleship clicked him? i mean sure this game can be rage inducing but
>>192032551Link to original video?
>>192032551wow epic haha upboated on redditkys
What's the best tier to make money? I'm fucking broke.
>>192032994>>192032854Here's a pastebin of the original link because the spam detection system is fucking retarded https://pastebin.com/TicCRSQ3
>>192032854The original was him getting mad at a Des Moines who didn't know about radar and a BB getting devstriked by torps when they were about to win by points.
>>192035170>getting mad at shitters for being shittersthe game does not teach you how to play. don't get mad at the shitters, get bitter at the slavs who enable them
>The bots on operations know to work together and focus fire on the ship with the lowest health>Somehow 80% of players still haven't figured this out
>>192035465Spam F3 and hope for the best.
>>192035387>what is active learningIf by tier 8 you haven't figured out such things you deserve to be insulted.
>>192035465But Anon, if you attack a ship that's low health, that's kill stealing.
>>192036452On average puBBies can only killsteal, which is differrent from securing.
>>192035465It's more effective to put several ships on fire and torping a target under heavy fire is pointless because his movement become less predictible or he'll die before they reach him anyway.
>>192037232Do you mean like pubbies in general or BBs in specific?It seemed to me even shitty BBs did a lot of damage compared to shitty CL/CA/DDs. Except Myogis, probably. Poor guys.
>>192037823No there is no difference between classes about how fucking clueless and unaware average players are in this game.I was only saying that randoms generally focus fire low health ships that would die anyway but they ignore ships who should be focused on because potentially they have heal/cloak or are in nasty positions.
>>192032551Fuck off _iris
>>192004901How would it be different from HOTEL?>>192019040Only takes 2 of your team to get out of position to make it a fair fight, not so surprising really.
Should I take torpedo acceleration on the Duke of Aosta?They're slow, but I really like that 12km range
>>192042050No. They're more useful if you see them as slow moving naval mines instead of torpedoes.
>>192042502>slow moving naval minesI like the sound of thatNaval mines when?
>torpedo boat hides in smoke and tries to be a gunboat instead of spottingim just going to start torping these brainlets i dont care
Any of you have access to gamemodels? I am curious about moskva secondary arcs, but can't look at them
>>191992350128 mm HE pens all DDs except for )))))))))))ovsk's 50 mm plating and that's before you account for the KM HE pen boost.
Is smoke expert on USN DD's a no-no?
will we ever get higher tier Japanese CLs?
>>192045443I'm sure we'll see some when(((((if))))) they split the cruiser lines.
>>192045443Are there any tier ten CLs?
>>192043068I'm shit at gunboating so I just play spotting torp boat in my fletcher until we win
>>192046008No way. Best you might get from historical ships is Agano at maybe tier 6.
>>192042735When subs come out
>>192045443Tier 5. Maybe 6 if they give it some meme consumables.
>>192045410You lay enough smoke and have the manoeuvrability to move around within it already. AR has more utility, or even EM for Clemson or TAE for Gearing.SSE is pretty decent for RN CLs, especially with Jack Dunkirk's boost.>>192045443What IJN CL could fit in at high tiers?
>>192046902Is Gearing better as a torpboat or as a gunboat? I know it has more strengths as a gunboat, but I've been reading it can be a pretty devastating torpboat. I enjoy torpboat more too since clicking with stealth torp Fletcher
>>192047090In pretty much every respect, it's an inferior torpbote to Fletcher. I haven't really clicked with Gearing so I can't give much advice.
>>192046008you ask that for a nation who decided to make a "light" cruiser which was just a heavy cruiser with 15.5cm guns, built the biggest and heaviest battleship ever built, then started to build another before the first was even completed, then a third before the previous two launched.then started to build fourth as soon as the first one was launched.japan doesn't do "light"
>>192047551I almost wish they just buffed the Fletcher to a tier 10 and made a new line for it
>>192047090Fletcher is the better torp boat. Gearing torps take much longer to reload and do less damage and you just get some extra range in return.
>>192047794I meant, are there any CL 10s in the game from any nation.
To be fair, you have to have a very high skill to understand battleships. The power is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of naval gunnery most of the shots will go over a typical player's head. There's also the battleship's long range outlook, which is deftly woven into its design - its personal power draws heavily from Jacky Fisher, for instance. The captains understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these penetrations, to realize that they're not just powerful- they say something deep about WOWS. As a consequence people who dislike battleships truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the power in Yamato's existential catchphrase "bow on citadel penetration" which itself is a cryptic reference to Togo's epic battle at Tsushima. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Wargaming's genius unfolds itself on their computer screens. What fools... how I pity them.
>>192047884The French were planning on arming the post-war Colbert with 152mm DP guns but instead opted for newly developed 127mm DP guns. Maaaaybe that??
>>192046087>historicalis not of problem, comrade)))))))))))))))))
>>192048154>in the game>>192048670Don't they have only slightly heavier armament than Atlanta? Surely T8 at best.
>>192048530that's my pasta reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
>>192049576The "Final" De Grasse and the Colbert were armed with post-war developed 127 mm/54 (5") Model 1948 Dual Purpose gunshttp://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNFR_5-54_m1948.phpA VERY high velocity round that had 50 FPS more than the equivalent American 5"/38 (12.7 cm) Mark 12 and was about 10 lbs heavier. The French were originally planning on 6" guns though, American made 6"/47 caliber gun DP gun
>>192051468Yeah I realised shorty after my earlier post that you were probably suggesting the 152 mm-gunned version for TX rather than 127 mm. Interesting ships.
>>192042735They were in the Dunkirk operation. The devs may add them somewhere else in the future.
>>192054290>minelaying ships>charge into caps and spam mines>Yammy dets 15 mines and explodesPretty good for tears desu
>>192054579I think they said they wouldn't be player-deployed, but would more likely be part of the environment. Might be a good alternative to shallows if DDs can manoeuvre through the. Or perhaps degaussing could be a new consumable.
>>192055041I really want subs just so I can finally play DDs the way they were meant to be played and possibly get a corvette or frigate line
>>192055357How would you implement subs without them being either incredibly boring, ridiculously overpowered, or equivalent to DDs in terms of gameplay?
>>192057018Have a convoy mode with DDs and corvettes on one side guarding a convoy and subs on the other side trying to sink the merchant ships. DDs get longer time sonar and depth charges to kill the subs
>>192057018One explanation I saw Wargaming mention was for them to spawn behind the enemy spawn so they can push the enemy forward.
Who do I have to pay for Warships.Today to stop shitting the bed?
>>192058642HOLY KEK YES
hey guys i'm thinking of getting a name change but i have no creativity give me ideas
>>192055357>>>192055041>I really want subs just so I can finally play DDs the way they were meant to be played and possibly get a corvette or frigate line>Playing a 21 knot ship with three 5" guns against a battleship
>>192060447It'll be balans by giving it 1-2km concealment.
>>192058642>>192059932>Game starts>All the DDs head to the back of the map to farm the helpless subs>Subs that slip through the DDs can't even go fast enough to get into firing position against the main fleetFucking retarded
>>192060447Why the fuck would you do that? You hunt down submarines, clear mines and fend off DDs from harming your battleships.
>>191987781She used to take more than a few cits herself lol
>>192060828BUT THINK OF THE TEARS
>>192061825Just play IJN DDs if you want to know suffering.
>>192058467literally just play silent hunter
>submarinesrather than player controlled, a map hazard. some kind of "submarine spotted in this area" zone which the map makers can use to funnel people. while in the zone, occasionally a torpedo (or spread of 2-3 torpedos) spawns maybe 4km away from you unless there is at least 1 friendly DD also in the zone. the idea being that the area could be used either to funnel people away from places, or make DD/CA-only areas, or allow for high-risk/teamwork high-reward plays
>>192048154I love how the Minotaur's armament is a cheap ripoff of the Worchester that thanks to some sort of British engineering wizardry achieves the 15-16 RPM the 6"/47 Mk16 was alleged to be capable of in its design phase yet proved to be slower than the 8" autoloaders on the Des Moines. Also torpedoes on a Korean War era light cruiser because fuck you America.
>>192062382Or they could make it a more 'organic' map edge, à la Battlefield.
>>192062403>This is what burgers actually believe
>Get matched with decent teams>Premium runs out>Shit team after shit team>Get premium again>First fucking game after and every one since I start getting good teams again...hmmm
>>192064230They have preferential matchmaking for players with premium.
>>192062403>Ham-fisted Clapistanis couldn't figure it out therefore no one possibly could!This level of delusion really is exceptional.
>>192057018By making them play like nothing else.Give them 15 minutes submerged, make them not count for the purpose of winning/losing if you run out of ships to prevent time scamming. 5 depth levels.Surface - Vulnerable to everything but are essentially gimped DD's with RU DD detection range range. No camo or skill can reduce this.Periscope - Spotting range of enemy ships reduced by 40%, detection range of own sub decreases to 3km. Unable to cap. At 10km hydro of any kind will leave a marker in a zone with 2-3km margin of error. Hydro always spots at 6km for every ship and 8km for german ships. 200% damage from depth chargeSubmerged - Unable to torpedo or spot, detection range reduces to 1km, hydro marker reduces to 8km, spot 4km, 6km for german. 100% damage from depth chargeDeep - Detection range reduces to 0, hydro marker to 4km, hydro 2km, german 3km. 80% damage from depth charge.Crush - Detonation chance+gradual HP decrease. Hydro marker to 0km, hydro to 0.1km, german 0.3km. 10% damage from depth charge. Consumable can be silent running which stops all reloading, reduces speed by 90%, removes all ships from vision and map, but reduces detection and hydro by 90%.On loading and scoreboard make them show up as a DD for the enemy team.
>>192065697Battlestations' submarines but made by retarded slavs? That might work.
>13 point maass captain>already gotPriority target, last stand, survivability expert and concealmentTorp reload or superintendent for the 5th skill? or AR
>>192066529Can't go wrong with Super. DE might be good.
>>192065697That doesn't sound like it would solve the issue of stealth-based gameplay for vessels slower than standard BBs.
>>192051909Yes it's too bad the French didn't finish more stuff from the war, they even had an "Improved Mogador" that was slightly bigger than the previous Mogadors with better AA protection
what is the most broken ship class, and how do you fix it?hard mode: don't say carriers
>>192066529It's a matter of personal style at that point, I'd say. If you often run out of smokes or hydro, SI is the obvious choice. Otherwise consider whether you more often find yourself hunting with torps at high HP (TAE) or low HP (AR).I'm only at T-22 with the Germans and my experience would push me towards SI.
how do the german DDs compare to the american ones? i know they're all WW1-era torpedo boats up to tier 5 but how are they past that? some of them get 6" guns, are they decent?
>>192069629>how not to convert a BB to a CVHate to be stationed on her with that funnel.
>>192069629Cruisers, more specifically US ones.They're so broken they're fucked right now, and very suffering to play at high tiers.
>>192071023What can be done?
>>192069921They're decent, but not really impressive until you get to the T10 where you finally get some decent hydro range and can catch DDs that aren't complete retards.
>Huang He can now use torpedo reload boosters, and it replaces hydroacoustic search.WG is really trying everything to make this garbage work.
>>192071023Cruisers right now have all the weakness of BBs and DDs and none of their strengths
>>192069921>how do the german DDs compare to the american ones? i know they're all WW1-era torpedo boats up to tier 5 but how are they past that? some of them get 6" guns, are they decent?So far I'm on the tier 7 one but I'm almost on the tier 8.Tier 6-8 km DD have>Shit smoke>questionable Guns layout >Hydro to bully other DD>Gimped range on the hydro compared to their CA/BB counterparts>Torps with meh damage but ok range and quick reloadHowever, KM DD shines starting from the tier 9 z49 with huge power jump in torps and ebin hydro range
>>192073169Thanks senpai. I'll probably stick with my Mahan then.
anyone been able to 5 star the new halloween?
>>192073263Well, Maass (and KM DD) is still quite enjoyable tbqh. The only thing is that they require quite a bit to get used to.
>>192071023Baltimore and Des Moines are tons of fun if you're not a mouth-breathing retard. NO and Omaha are the only ones that need help.>>192073169T9's hydro range is still pretty crummy. Only the TX has proper KM hydro.
tfw no clan
>>192073782>>192073169 (You)>T9's hydro range is still pretty crummy. Only the TX has proper KM hydro.ikr, I really wish they would give proper km hydro to km destroyer instead of these gimped ones. Guns and rudder on these DD transverse very slowly, it's often uncomfortable to shoot at DD at close rangeApparently that would be too OP according to WG
>>192074458I think full KM hydro on a DD is probably too much. Maybe give them the range but not the duration.
>>192076693Yeah. Km DD hydro duration is also a notch shorter than the Cruiser's. E.g. z 23 hydro is 96 second at 4.44 km as opposed to hipper hydro’s 118sec at 5.58 km. I think giving the dds a better range but not the duration would be ok
>>192074458>italian navy did nothingspotted the italian.
>>192048530What type of sauce should you chimpout over once you understand battleships?
>>192077535homemade bbq sauce
>>192045443We had the Kitakami
>>192070693Her living quarters allegedly constantly had up to 30-40 C° temperature
>>192077414The symbol for the second is 's'. Using abbreviations in place of unit names or symbols is not permitted.
Can't decide whether Gneis or Bisco is more comfy for secondary memesBismarck has better range and sonarGneis has better MM and torps
>>192079401gneis probably. bisko gets shafted by T8 MM. also something about a pure aryan uniform secondary battery is much comfier than bisko's mongrel mix of calibres and single/double turrets
AH YES LET'S MAKE SOME OPERATIONS DIVISION-ONLY
>>192073782The NO is great if you go full conceal. This combined with with radar and that great american AP makes for a fun show, allowing you to pick your shots against cruisers and battleships.
I'm loving the Cleveland. She's so reliable, once you learn how to deal with the rainbow arcs it's pretty hard to have a bad game in her. She's also surprisingly resilient, or at least forgiving, with the underwater citadel. How do the rest of the US cruisers compare?
>>192080617I can only speak for the pesna and New Orelans, but in essence. The pensa is different in that you cannot tank shells what so ever, so you must be able to dodge, weave, and angle if you want any success in it. On the other the Pensa AP is godly against anything that shows even a hint of broadside. The New Orleans is a lot like the pensa, but you have a radar and are a bit tankier. The better conceal of the New Orleans allows you to play less bob and weave and more sneak and shoot.
>>192080617>PeniscolaReally weak armor but hits hard and has remarkable manouverability>NiggertownImproved armor over Peniscola at the expense of agility, guns are similar, has RADAR and really good concealment>Niggertown v.2Improved armor (bounces up to 381 mm guns), improved RADAR, has heal, rest is the same>Des MeemsSlighty worse concealment, same armor as Niggertown v.2, guns have overpowered rate of fire, RADAR range is almost 10 km
>>192081381Sounds excellent desu. I'm already kinda used to getting deleted from Emerald, Kberg and Buyfast, so getting deleted while actually having good damage sounds nice.
>>192081467Basically, In US cruisers your best at deleting other cruisers, then DDs, and the battleships. Also don't be afraid to use AP against bbs in close range if they give broadside. Today, I somehow cited an angled Bismark from 4km in a New Orleans
>>192081467Only Penis has real issues against high calibers, the others are inbetween Soviet CLs and KM CAs in terms of armor.
>>192080617Fuck Cleveland.Now before you guys tell me to go play her myself, she's such fucking bullshit. Not only was I able to average 80-90k games, but the amount of shells she shits out is ridiculous.Why were there talks about splitting CLs and CAs at some point? Wasn't that last year or 2? Cleveland was "supposed to be a T8 CL"hahahahaha
>>192082127b... but WG nerfed Cleveland citadel!!!
>>192082127The best part is, even with how GOAT cleve is now, this is only a fraction of her former glory.
>>192082443Let me add when AFT made her 17~18km. I don't remember the number, but motherfucking rainbows.Thoroughly enjoyed Nurnberg at the time.
I thought cruisers were shit, everyone keeps telling me that
>>192082594Ask LunaticRed aka dont_aim_me_please or whatever his fucking USN reroll is.>gets btfod by gaishu and 233 gang>rages how dumb his team isReal good kek there in general last night
>>192082594Compared to BBs and DDs, they are. DDs have concealment and are all but immune to AP, BBs have delet, health potion, and are overall very forgiving to play.
>>192082582Tfw grinded to 10 point kraut one day before the bft/aft nerf>>192082594They are shit. Nowadays a good chunk of cruiser has been creeped by meta changes
>>192082673>or whatever his fucking USN reroll is.Which one? He has several NA statpadding rerolls.
>>192051468>A VERY high velocity round that had 50 FPS more than the equivalent American 5"/38 (12.7 cm) Mark 12Basically a Montana/Midway secondary
>>192084550They are, aren't they? Large enough to be respectable, but still affordable, both to make and lose. Built, not as grandiose statements of power, not as cheap hulls in the water, but as efficient, purpose-designed vessels. Adequate things for most purposes.
Removal of HOTEL clan from OP when?It has nothing to do with the general, some people from 4chan joined when Rex shilled his clan one year ago but that's about it.I swear at least 5 people have no idea what 4chan even is, a whole lot of others are redditors.
>>192084747Firstly we need to make a real non-reddit clan
>>192084747Is there even a warships admiral clan?
>>192075250But that's an AMERICAN
>>192087331>americans>they eat breaded meat>they pride themselves on industry>they are warlike>they have a large, but culturally diverse and administratively fractitious empire>they drink beer>they are tall, pale-skinned, with blue or brown hair>not germans
>>192087990blonde hair. fuck off, it's three in the morning and i'm not paying attention
>>192088193Go to sleep anon, think of you're mom.
I've really been enjoying the Kuma but is it worth putting upgrades on?I'm honestly torn between keeping it or selling it depending on how similar/better the next IJN cruiser is.I am new, plz no bully
>>1920914131. The most important question is, have you got invite code2. Upgrades are pretty cheap on T4, so get them, especially considering that starting from T6 putting upgrades on new ships is pretty much mandatory 3. I suggest keep, since you should have more than enough place in your port. And because T5 right now is a nightmare, because of constant T7 battles 4. IJN line stays relatively same in that you spam a lot of HE, it it changes a bit since now your RoF drops like a rock.
>>1920918521. Should I and is there any restrictions to it since I've got a couple tier IV by now?2. Ah.3. That sounds gross.4. Part of the reason I like the Kuma is how strong it seems to be at lighting fires to finish off anything that's torpedo'd.
What did I miss?
>>191987781FUCK OFF MAKO
>>192092163>>192091852Also I'm on WOWS NA if it matter?
>>192092172Yeah I'm also very confured by this.They apparently decided to give random prems for 3 days now?
>>192092172I just got a free rental Scharnhorst as well for 3 days.
>>192092742Yes it is 100% matters what server are you on, since that only guy from that server can give you invite. You get a free T5 prem (Texas) for reaching T6 and 30 thousand free exp, that allows you to research boats faster. >>192093592I wonder if they get full economy benefits of prem ship. If yes, maybe goy out prem for few days and grind a few million credits
Btw, what setups can Halloween Lex use?
>Akizuki detection from firing inside smoke is 9kmD E D UCK
>>192093997>30 thousand free exp80k
>>192094441I was wondering when they'd nerf the last decent Japanese DD in both lines. Looks like this is it.
>>192095079Nah that's just a bug. that will go live and won't be fixed for like 5 updates
>>192093592>>192093626I wish I got a Scharnhorst, I have no idea how to play this commie DD.
>>192095363I got bothCommie DD is easy: just either sit in your smoke or rush with 12 torps
Ocean map on new WG engine when?
>>192096163How about 'Ocean map 'never', yeah that sounds better
Murrican serb so dead they throwing free premiums?
>Soviet 130mm secondary has hilariously good range even on cruisers>Will have 9km min on BB and most likely 10x2>Gun itself is also stupidly good, with 8% fire chance per shell, and extremely fastAre you ready for absolutely new level of secondary memes? Oh also, if 4 guns on Moskva is 111, then 10 guns on BB will be 263 @ 5.7 km
>>192097136They're testing out the new rental system they'll use to sell T10 for clan wars.
>>192100449I hope it breaks so I can keep this new ship.
>>192100449Unironically I hope the dev who thought this was a good idea gets hit by a car and his daughter gets raped. I keep getting in teams with cancer Scharns who have shit captains and no idea what they're doing
>>192101143I won't risk putting mods on her either way. Hell I don't even dare training captains on her in case they disappear along with the ship.
>>192101251Just like captains disappeared among with Dunkirk boats?
>>192099531will be of very much balans, comrade)))))))))))))))))))))
>>192101636>free 19pt captains on dunkirk botes>didn't have any brit or baguette botes at the time to farm free commander XPAnd I regretted it to this day.
Whats the link to the EU discord again?
The new Halloween mission is ridiculously fun. Nice
>>192104180What setups can halloween carrier use?
wop2 looks fun
>>192101759You got given 2 DDs to used with them, and you'd have had to have respecced the captains to use them in any other ship anyway. No need to feel bad.
>>192104360Only one. One fighter three torps one bomber.However, the carrier itself can do good secondary/AA memes
>>192106818Oh. For a second I thought that since this is basically Lex, maybe WG will test some reasonable loadout with it
>>192106003>You got given 2 DDs to used with themOnly playable in scenario, which I don't play.>and you'd have had to have respecced the captains to use them in any other ship anywayI wouldn't have had to respec if I transferred them right off the bat and not use the given DDs at all.
>>192107509>I wouldn't have had to respec if I transferred them right off the bat and not use the given DDs at all.I'm reasonably sure that's not how it works, given that I tried that and it didn't work.Also I vaguely remember my friend bringing an Anthony in a random battle once, but that I might be misremembering.
>>192108393Maybe he bought the thing, I'm pretty sure the two ships weren't usable in any other mode including training room.
>>192108550>Maybe he bought the thingI can't even persuade him to get premium, dude's a skinflint.
How do I git gud at jap CV manual drops? Deleting botes with Zuiho was fun, but now it's hard to hit anything.
>>192099531Apparently the T10 soviet BB will have some 180mm secondaries
>>192105447Define "fun". How is it any different from WoWP 1?
>>192079174>Implying the proper use of unit symbols and prefixes (which is mandatory) is dependent on grammarThey're independent of all languages, and therefore any grammar.
>>192111185Tell that to the americans, they are too free to bother with SI units and/or properly arranging them.I really like shaftment and cubit, it just sounds better than this 'feet' shit.
is the ibuki supposed to be terrible or do i just need to git gud?
>>192114069When you could still stealthfire, it was an OK ship.Since they removed that without giving the cruisers fuckall in return, you can guess what WG thinks about cruiser balancing.
>>192114069It has been powercreeped massively. Like for example Baltimore now has much greater HE DPM, while having same stealth, radar AND USN meme AP.
>>192114069Shit compared to the other T9s but it can still work fine. Just pretend you're playing a T8 with heal.
>>192115808So an Atago.
How am I supposed to play Khaba? I always die so fast with it.Is Khaba a kind of DD that you shouldnt go rushing into cap with at the beginning of the game?
>>192116412>Is Khaba a kind of DD that you shouldnt go rushing into cap with at the beginning of the game?H-How did you managed to get to T10 in USSR DD without learning this simple truth?At the start of the game you stay as far back from cap as cruisers, because you ARE a cruiser. You sit back and burn baBBies to crisp. Later? Sure go grab a cap.Please tell me you got AFT
>>192116954yes I got AFT and BFT, since I figure I needed that extra range
>>192101224>cancer Scharns who have shit captains and no idea what they're doingso.. just like every premium that goes on sale and people buy?
>Shoot at guy.>All the shells are going for the center of his ship.>Half land in the water between me and him, the other half behind him, showering his middle section on both sides, 0 hit.Do Japanese BB guns get more accurate eventually? Seriously I had a game with absolutely no hits because that shit kept happening, it's infuriating.
>>192118910Let me guess, you're at Kawachi.
>>192118910>Do Japanese BB guns get more accurate eventually?Yes. Starting at T5 your accuracy becomes less infuriating, overall they are the most accurate BB in game.
>>192119038I'm in a T5 right now. When I'm dead I see the other BBs shooting, all the shells stay neatly together and make pretty arcs, then I look at another Kongo and his shells start spreading the instant he's shot them.Also the 0 hit game was with the Kongo, not sure I had one like that even with the Myogi. Don't remember playing the Kawachi at all, was too long ago.
>>192116412Stay a few km behind some friendly DD to support him, then run around the map burning stuff. Only cap alone if you know the enemies are far enough away.
>>192116412Absolutely. She's not capable of contesting caps against proper DDs at the start of the match. Ideally, you should provide close support for a stealthy DD, but if you have to spearhead a push, don't wait to get spotted before turning away. Approach the cap at an angle and start kiting with speed boost as soon as PT starts ticking up.
>>192114557>this is what the shitskin thinksThere are so many people despising you, and many others will leave without thinking twice.
>>192120720Go ahead and set up your 'true /vg/' clan if you're so sure.
why do I keep doing subpar damage tier for tier in Scharnhorst? Am I supposed to use HE on battelships or not?
>>192121324I don't know who you are, where you came from or what's your purpose, but people will eventually realize who was right all along.You can't just buy your way into this place by gifting a few fags premium ships; not even them will be supporting you :^)
>>192121742AP is still the primary ammo type, just forget about trying to pen BB belts.
>>192117984A hundred times worse, because at least there's some sort of barrier to entry there (money), while with this every noob whose highest bote is R3 is suddenly riding around with a T7 premium battleship and 0 skill captain.Yesterday I went 13-2 in T7Today I went 1-6 in T7, mostly because half my team were suiciding one at a time in premium battleships / destroyers, and I couldn't carry the massive deficit. Easily the least fun I've had playing WoWs since I started, by miles.
>>192126048>my personal results are proof You know those people are on both teams, right?
>>192126150The one consistent thing that happened was that they were only on my team, and the enemy ones were absolute MVPs.My team premiums: Sail at top speed directly into the enemy deathball, no course correction, miss every shot from 7km.Their team: Godly maneuvering, 2 to 3 kills each, absolute nightmare to kill, usually top three at least.
>>192125263Should you also use mainly AP on Graf Spee as well?
>>192123032No my friend, i'm not the one gifting shit to gain consensus from literal whos.
At first I was bummed that I got the slav dd for trial instead of the scharn, but this stupid bote is actually really fun. You take one look at it and you'll say>that's retardedbut it's surprisingly effective. 7 guns with strong HE is no joke. It is a bully, whether you're t7 or t4 it will bully the shit out of anything as long as you avoid getting shot.
>>192127352>false flagging this hard>and no proofs to top it all offtwo can play that game
>>192130072>le proof shitskin memeLMAO, even people from outside the discord circlejerk know how fucking pathetic you are, why are you even bothering anymore?You can have your shitter club, i literally don't care, if you didn't realize the few people from /vg/ left in your clan are just there to leech off the clan benefits.You're just an insufferable autist who's constantly screeching at some NA retard in a containment club with 2-3 buttbuddies.Why do you think you're only playing with literal whos and those 3 niggers you gifted shit/invited from reddit, retard?Wake up.
>>192126692You have to be a bit more opportunistic with her. You can't bully people into showing you side like you can with Scharn.
>>192131810Not only does he do that, he also has been filling the clan with random people who don't even know what 4chan is, let alone /vg/, by their own admission.Sometimes i really wonder how we could all be so fucking stupid and join HOTEL back then, it has been absolutely, blatantly obvious for months that the clan has no real link nor resemblance of this place.
I seem to not have any halloween ships or the option to select the scenario. What do?
>>192021221I might give it a try.
>>192132997Is there something I have to do?It says you need to be level 8, but i'm level 15
>>192132997>>192133658its not on the live server yet
>>192131810Can you stop shitting up the thread with this drama-cancer?
>>192133979You think they'd mention somewhere on the news post
>get ship from super container>it's a krasny krymfugwhat do I even do with this
>>192131810>>192132910>le leddit people meme>containment club>gifted ships>still no proof to any of thiskek, you say you don't care but your posts say otherwise. But please, keep assuming everyone you points out your bs is Rex.
Why are prominent shitposters of /wowsg/ collecting so much data here?
>>192136269Social engineering to get into our accounts.
>>192114557>check thread before going to bed>see some fag namedropping me>see the outburst in the generalOk, first of all i don't even want to create a clan myself because i have no time nor will to put up with this cancerous shit, same reason i didn't join any discord after being pressured to do so for god knows what reason; secondly, it's true that i generally didn't like how clan matters were handled and how the community seemed to be fractioned and "randomized" by the introduction of a seemingly clan-related Discord channel; i have even expressed my concerns with one of the deputies shortly after leaving and that's it.If you are going to assume i'm on a personal crusade to bring back what once seemed to be a close and lively /wowsg/ community, then you are wrong.If people are content with how the whole clan deal is working out on EU, then it's fine, it's not my goal nor duty to convince them otherwise.If you're also going to assume that every qualms and criticism about the clan comes from me, feel free to believe so (but you probably are aware that's not the case).That's all i have to do.
>>192135785>>192130072>>192123032>>192135785>burden of proof>total denial>autism reaction facesWhy do i sense a turkroach?Is that you, Rex?
Is the Hakuryu fun? Which IJN tech tree CV provides the most fun?I have a Ryujo with perma camo, but I'm considering just moving on to the next tier and eventually getting a Hakuryu but I'm not sure if I should.Things to consider:>1: I'm great at microing 5 or fewer units around and get fantastic results, but I start to fall apart and forget units / flub my hotkeys at around 6 or more>2: I have the perma camo for the Ryujo>3: The most fun in general I have with the game is when I'm progressing to a goal, or I'm tooling around with a meme ship build, or I completely obliterate some unsuspecting foolShould I move the captain on and work on a higher tier, should I create a new captain for higher tiers and keep the old one on the Ryujo, or should I not bother at all?
Not a day goes by without these discord/clan shitheads coming here and shitposting their drama. No wonder this general is a hollow of it's former self. It would be best to just remove all clan mentions from future OPs and disassociate this place from all other them.
The Scharnhorst is legit superior to the Gneisenau in every way
>>192141373Just report them.
>>192142017I have, to no effect. Which is why we should get them from the rot. By removing them from the OP we also will prevent their numbers growing in the future.
>>192142287Might as well, then. If they can't contain their autism to the discord or the clan or whatever, if they absolutely have to keep shitting up the thread with their faggotry, they can fuck off.
>>192141373Piss off newfag, there were people getting falsely accused and false flagged before Discord was a thing in this general.
>>192137809>Turkroach created and owns those images.>Burden of proof has never been used by anyone else ever in this general.You are just as much of a retard as him.
>>192141932I don't know, I still have no idea what to hit other battleships with. Even at point-blank range AP will shatter on same-tier BB armor belt. I don't like the idea of only doing chip damage with no way of being able to punish a broadside on BB.
>>192142579And yet it is infinitely worse that is was before. How about you piss off and take your discord cucks with you.
Guess i'll just head on over to r/worldofwarships
>>192142698Would you rather be able to smash cruisers and do a bit worse against BBs, or just plain miss with Gneis guns?
>>192142579Yeah, and before it was just namefagging. Now you're dragging in drama, about people I've never heard of, and doing nothing but being a toxic shitlord.
>>192069629Broken how? Like bad or OP?
>>192143047>wahh this is worseYeah, the same two anons being name dropped and shitposted in every general for more than a year before and after Discord was so much better compared to what we have today right now. You're just butthurt that Discord exposes the true shitposters and you don't like it because they are your "friends". You know who you remind me of? You remind of TOR who ignores drug dealers and pedophiles on the dark web but when someone makes a conservative site on the dark web, it gets shutdown immediately. Here's a piece of advice, whether you're rex or his "friend", fuck off.
>>192143530>its ok when the same person gets false flagged and shitposted for 1+ year but when you mention my buddy, you need to stop because his feelings are hurtOk rex. Cry about it.
>>192143321My point is Scharn is supposed to be a brawler and yet is at disadvantage when brawling due to its inability to citadel BBs.And yes in the current meta I'd absolutely take a ship that does better against BBs than against cruisers.
>>192139630>Are you always going to cry like a bitch when you're called out, instead of refuting it?What sort of proof could anyone be expected to provide which would refute the assertion that they gifted something to someone else in WoWs? Credit card statements for the last 2 years?
>>192144501>someone doesnt like namefags shitting up the thread>haha i'll call him out by name>not even the right personhow hard is it to stop being a spider expert?can you at least try?is this the sort of person your waifu would love?i know you can do better.>>192144873>scharn>brawlernah m8scharn is an overgrown cruiser. close in, 15" and 16" guns are going to go right through while your 11" can't. unless you're knife-fight close to rely on your torpedoes and secondaries, try not to do that.
>clip some fag with a torpedo in a cruiser who decided to back into me and a few other destroyers torpedoes>him and his clan buttbuddy start shooting at me>get to about half hull before i pointblank broadside torpedo them both>im the one losing money and exp for itniggers gonna nig
>>192144501>>192144257>everyone is suddenly rexfuck off retard
>>192145323>says rex as he accuses everyone to be raptor or lugerdumb cockroach poster
>>192145628>accuses everyone to be raptor or lugergo ahead retard and show me when did I mentioned these fucks? What this anon >>192145917 said
>enemy playing destroyer>never detected submersible with life-hating torpedoes that never miss>me playing destroyer>ENGINE FAILURE ENGINE FAILURE ENGINE FAILUREgod DAMN
>>192146216thanks for the free (you), buddy
>>192146580>dodges the question >still thinks I am rexretard to the max I see
>Spotting aircraft>Catapult fighter>Only one of these actually spots thingsFuckin A+ m8
>You need a mod to see what consumables nearby teammates are usingI knew wargaming was retarded, but this is just fucking stupid.
>>192147853WG has been really good about making useful mods standard though
>>192147853I'm sure it will be implemented in vanilla soon enough. They've been good about incorporating QoL mods.
>when 4 battleships enter a 2v2 brawl at sub 4km range>all that gunfireis there anything more fun to watch and be a part of
when is wg gonna remove detonations reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
>>192150458Just buy signals goy :^)
>>192141932>Slower>Can't overmatch shit>Worse AA>Worse secondariesReally makes me think…
What tier would you put the the German training ship Bremse at?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_training_ship_Bremse
>>192152628Looks about right for T3. Compared to Katori she's faster and better armoured, but has inferior guns and no torpedoes.
>>192153978That sounds about right, the Bremse is in a similar tier 3 sorta situationhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_training_ship_Bremse
>>192079401Gneisenau is better for those clutch brawls where you take on half of the enemy team with guns, torps, secondaries and ramming all at once.Bismarck offers a truly comfy experience which involves holding lesser ships at bay with a hail of napalm while you deal with worthy opponents like gentlemen.>>192080468tbf I haven't played NO since the buffs and I thought she looked pretty impressive after them. I've been put off by her recent WR, which is still pretty dire, though I suppose just means shitters can't handle surprising people with cruiser alpha.
>>192156153what am I looking at?
>>192080617>PensacolaHeavy broadside with a good layout, but her armour is essentially useless. Effective use of her fantastic stealth and manoeuvrability, both offensively and defensively, is key to good play.>NOHer armour can be relied upon against other cruisers, at least (can bow-tank some BBs too), so WASD-hacking loses a bit or relevance. She loses some manoeuvrability and broadside weight in exchange for radar and improved stealth. Where radar is called for, she is quite strong, otherwise she still feels a bit lacklustre. Her gun armament in particular is considerably less threatening in her MM bracket than Pensa's was in hers.Both Pensacola and NO have mediocre AA and middle of the road ballistic arcs.>BaltimoreThis where USN CAs start to come together into a very tidy package. Baltimore's guns pump out very respectable dmg/min, especially with the reload upgrade (which I recommend) and have great AP performance, aside from the arcs. This makes using the radar much more rewarding, particularly as her stealth is still a good match for the radar range. Stealth tactics and brief bursts of fire are the order of the day here. Note that she can bow-tank AP up to 381 mm in calibre too, which alone is ample compensation for the minor hit to manoeuvrability. Her AA will also threaten any CV she encounters.>Des MoinesHer citadel is more vulnerable and her armour is less relevant than in Baltimore's case. Her concealment also lags behind her radar range a bit more and her manoeuvrability degrades even further. If you've grown to love the shoot and scoot stealth tactics of NO and Balti, you may be disillusioned by DM. If during the T7-9 grind you were yearning for Cleveland, you'll feel right at home. Dishing out constant dmg/min comes to the fore once more.
>>192082594You need to be more skilled in a cruiser to carry than someone in a different class needs to be to stop you.>>192084735As warships, cruisers are suboptimal. They carry a lot of stuff that isn't directly related to fighting enemy ships.>>192084747When you make a more popular EU clan. People are waiting for it, according to you at least.>>192091413Consider that when you sell the upgrades, you get half of the cost back. They're not expensive at all at low tiers.>>192091852Furutaka is the odd duck of the line. If you don't focus on AP use you are doing her a disservice. She doesn't put out enough shells to be a firestarter on par with the rest of the line.
>>192106003>and you'd have had to have respecced the captains to use them in any other ship anywayOr just spec them appropriately for the ship you intend to grind them with to begin with. The Dunkirk Op didn't demand any particular build.>>192109535Practice in Co-Op, or the Training Room if you want to tryhard. I focussed on developing a reference for Kongo and adapting from there. The 'template' I came up with for TBs was as follows: approaching perpendicularly from the target, her nose should be just touching the side of the indicator as the drop occurs and she should be 1/2 to 2/3 of her length downrange from the 'start line' of the indicator. I found this to be a good frame of reference that can be adapted to most targets, except DDs. If the target is maintaining a straight course, give your drop a slight angle from the rear. If she's turning, try to chose an angle such that she's showing as much side as possible when the torps reach her, but don't spend too much time in her AA. Dropping from inside the turn makes this easier.When it comes to DBs, approach along the centreline of the target to align the drop with the target. Ideally approach from the front, as this minimises the time spent in the AA.
>>192132910>he also has been filling the clan with random people who don't even know what 4chan is, let alone /vg/, by their own admissionCare to name these people?>>192138595>>192143750I was of a similar mindset to you and stayed on Ryujo for quite a while, partially because I wasn't confident in my abilities as a CVnt. When I eventually did move on, I found Hiryu to be a lot of fun and I had great results. Provided you can strafe properly, having 2 fighter squads gives you so much more control over the enemy. A huge proportion of the opponents I faced seemed really to have no clue when it came to strafing and breaking fighter locks. Sure, the AA ramps up a little when you move up a tier, but the increase in plane reserves make up for it (though your TBs are a little weedy and often all get used up).Move the skilled captain to the higher tier. Yes, it costs a little more XP than moving a lower skilled captain up, but skills are more crucial at higher tiers, so it's worth it.
>>192142698>no way of being able to punish a broadside on BBThat's what your torps are for.>>192144873It's not a disadvantage because no one can citadel her back in a brawl either. A salvo full of pens is nothing to sneeze at either.>>192145113>scharn is an overgrown cruiser. close in, 15" and 16" guns are going to go right through while your 11" can't.That's nonsense. Scharn can shrug off any AP she faces thanks to her extensive armoured bow.>>192145248>Torpedo a team mate>They defend themselves>Why do they persecute me so?Shit bait
What tier 4 ship is the most fun??
>>192173302Clemson and Izyaslav with AFT
>>192173302Really tough question. MM makes that tier so comfy to play. König is an under-appreciated gem imo.
>>192166440>name people on a fucking anonymous board>provide proofs for things nobody but the person getting accused may have evidenceThis is why you fags deserve to be sent back to whatever shithole you came from, it's so embarassing to see you denying what has been confirmed by multiple persons.This only goes to show why there has and there will always be disappointment about a clan with those people around.Shameful display.
What IJN class of ships has the best balance of ease and use and effectiveness?
>>192174640>name people on a fucking anonymous boardIf you're not comfortable with this you have no business levelling accusations at a small group of specific named people and demanding that action be taken on that basis.>provide proofs for things nobody but the person getting accused may have evidenceYou've claimed that the people you object to have admitted to not knowing what 4chan is. There's no reason why there shouldn't be evidence of this, if you're aware of such admissions and they exist.I'm not denying anything. There's nothing to deny, as no one has provided any substantial evidence for their accusations.>>192175232Probably their BBs. They're slow to get started, but their mid-tiers are quite solid.
>>192175232Nagato used to be the best ship in the game for that.but dunno how she is now that she can see jerry and tommy bbs
>>192175769Nagato and Gneisenau are actually an interesting matchup, but lolHE from the bongistanis shits all over everything and removes all the fun and skill.
>>192176315Gneisenau walks Nagato. It's no contest.
>>192175510Namedropping is different from what you're describing, the two things are not comparable.What do you expect me to show?A physical version of autism?If you can't see what i'm talking about, you either didn't look well enough; or you didn't speak to the people i spoke to; or you're knowingly denying all of that for your personal interests.Either way, any person with some awareness or in the discord would be aware of the issues that have been pointed out.
>Look premium shop>Clan battle gold and flag packages>CV package>CV
Is it worth giving the Omaha AA Modifications, or is that something that doesn't take off until the Cleveland?
>>192178371Compare their AA stats and see for yourself.http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Omahahttp://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Cleveland
>decide to try and play mutsu again for once>regret
Hey Faggots,My name is Ebola, and I hate every single one of you. All of you are fat, retarded, no-lifes who spend every second of their day masturbating to stupid anime boats. You are everything bad in the world. Honestly, have any of you ever gotten a double ram? I mean, I guess it’s fun making fun of people because of your own insecurities, but you all take to a whole new level. This is even worse than jerking off to pictures on facebook.Don’t be a stranger. Just hit me with your best shot. I’m pretty much perfect. I was captain of the SL team, and starter on my clan battles team. What sports do you play, other than “jack off to naked drawn Japanese people”? I also get straight A’s, and have a banging hot girlfriend (She just blew me; Shit was SO cash). You are all faggots who should just kill yourselves. Thanks for listening.Pic Related: It’s me and my bitch
>>192179164Double ram Ebola-Chan strikes again! The king of leddit reigns supreme!
So how good is Pensacola's AP actually? Everyone says it's really good, but looking at the stats on the wiki, the AP shells don't even seem to be better than Myoko's? As far as I can tell, American CA's don't get their heavy AP shells until Baltimore with the upgraded guns.
>>192175510>I'm not denying anything. There's nothing to denyYou are though, quite a lot of people have been pointing out the same concerns about clan recruitment, all have been told everything is fine.Apparently, people playing since 2015 and never ever being seen on /vg/ chat suddendly joining the clan are totally related to this place rite?
Now that cruisers are oficially confirmed for War Thunder, how fucked are DDs in a non-HP bar reliant game?Also imagine cruising by one in a PT boat. Shit's gotta look insane.
>>192177421>What do you expect me to show?Any verifiable evidence which demonstrates that specific named members of HOTEL are unsuitable as members of a /vg/-related clan.>If you can't see what i'm talking about, you either didn't look well enoughI've paid very close attention to what you're talking about in your posts. Not once, despite repeated requests, have you furnished me with anything even resembling evidence which would demonstrate that any specific member of HOTEL does not belong in a 4chan-related clan.I have no objections to anyone in HOTEL being a member so there's no reason for me to spend my days in a constant witch hunt looking for evidence which would reduce the standing of any member in particular. If you know something you think I, or anyone else concerned with being in a 'genuine 4ch clan', should know about any particular member of HOTEL, and you have any evidence at all to corroborate it, you should share it with us so we can evaluate the veracity and significance of your findings. Until you do that, your accusations are worthy of no more consideration than the ramblings of a raving malcontent.>or you didn't speak to the people i spoke to;I don't know who you are or who you have spoken to. I've talked briefly with a handful of people about the operation of the clan at various points in time they all accept the status quo. Again, if you have any specific evidence, or perhaps could direct me to someone who does, you should share that or cease casting aspersions on HOTEL's members.>Either way, any person with some awareness or in the discord would be aware of the issues that have been pointed out.No one has pointed out anything - that's the problem with your posts. Your accusations ring absolutely hollow without evidence.
>>192181732USN CA AP's superior stats don't show up in-game. It has superior auto-bounce/normalisation (one of them, I can't remember which) and I believe its penetration is better too.>>192182215>quite a lot of people have been pointing out the same concerns about clan recruitmentI follow the thread very closely and I've seen nothing of the sort.>Apparently, people playing since 2015 and never ever being seen on /vg/ chat suddendly joining the clan are totally related to this place rite?Yes. All members are either known from the in-game chat or some other verifiable 4chan-related setting. This is checked during recruitment.
>>192183771anon, dont bother. I am been with HOTEL for some time now and am in discord as well. I have yet to see anyone do or say anything resembling what he is claims. The only real issue we ever hand is regarding clan rules but that has been handled a while ago. He is not gonna show you any proof or give names because he doesn't have any.
>>192183771Wow, now THIS is autism!There are no proofs because there can't be physical evidence about this kind of things, i've noticed odd behaviours and heard accountable people reinforcing my doubts, i'm not saying "it's 100% sure X comes from reddit or Y".Since those people were never seen in /vg/ chat, since it's not clear at all how those people are recruited and given that discord invite is readily avaiable in clan description, isn't it legit to have some fucking concerns about whether or not those people have anything to share with us?Holy fuck.
>>192184997>heard accountable people reinforcing my doubtsWho are these people then? >i'm not saying "it's 100% sure X comes from reddit or Y"Except that is exactly what you have been saying. Stop backpedaling.>given that discord invite is readily avaiable in clan descriptionThat has been removed a long time ago, only people who are in the clan are in the discord server (or former clan members). Which clearly does not include you.
>>192184997Not that guy, but how would you fix it though? Only allow people into HOTEL who are in the /vg/ chat? Maybe have them post their username in the thread to confirm they go to /wowsg/?
>>192185192>uses small " i " in middle of all his sentences. >clearly shows which posts are his.
>>192185558Are there even 30 people in this thread?
>>192185743>83 IPsThat aside, do you expect all 30 to been here posting 24/7, all at the same time?
At this point I'm not even sure I want to join the /vg/ clan, just because of all the autistic screeching and reddit-accusations and namefagging callouts and whatever going on. I mean, fuckssake, it's just a shitty slavic boat game, why does it matter what flavour of shitposter someone is.
>tfw you need a 14pt captain just for secondaries to be viable at all
>>192185656You are wrong though, not all his posts are with a small i.
>>192185551No, retard, you're the one saying "post proofs" as if you could be 100% certain where someone is from.All my assumptions are based on my own observations and other people opinions, it's obvious i'm not objectively speaking.
>>192186285You are right, he doesn't say i in some of them. Since not in all of them is he talking about himself. But when he does, it is obvious. >>192127352>>192131810>>192132910>>192177421>>192184997>>192136968
>>192186076It's not like you belong, Rex :^)
>>192186802what are you talking about?
>>192186739>as if you could be 100% certain where someone is fromAnd yet you expect HOTEL to be able of that for recruitment purposes. Nice double standard there. >other peopleHere is that word again and yet not a hint of who these "people" are. >it's obvious i'm not objectively speaking.Case closed I guess.
>>192187806There is difference between being sure someone is 4chan and not caring at all/disregarding it completely.Can definetly remember Luger having an issue with him for the same reason, he kept inviting his friends in /wowsg/ Discord.
>>192186802>the absolute state of Rex's iq
>>192188052What do you mean by someone not caring about 4chan? As far as I can tell, the thread/4chan hardly gets mentioned by anyone in the Discord other than the occasional re-post of something from /wowsg/.
>>192188052>he kept inviting his friends in /wowsg/ DiscordNot friends but clan members, just like BOTES and HOTEL from NA and SEA have done. And that has nothing to do with what we are talking about, so don't change the subject.
>>192188307I think he was referring to how a long time ago there was an argument between squiddo/rex and luger about him bringing his RDDT friends over the discord
>>192188364It is the very same thing that has been argued for months.When the center of influence moves from general/ingame chats over to personal Discord handled by turkish autismlord gifting shit to gain rep, this is what happens.I'm done arguing with people who just don't want to see what's right next to their nose.We'll let him have his "clanmates" (aka circlejerk) and we can just leech off the benefits anyway.The best part (clan wars) has yet to start, there the real problems might start.Then again, there are a still lot of nice and respectable people in HOTEL, so leaving on the basis of those same things is debatable imo.
>>192188464I saw that too and as far as I remember non were actually from leddit. They were just from other boards or other /vg/ general. At least that's what they said.
>>192189516Yep, that shit was so autistic>If you find out about the thread/general/e-zine from 4chan buddy instead of the catalog ur from reddit and ur 4chan buddy is suspectkys luber & c.
>>192189618Ah, then those were HIS buddies after all :^)
>>192189445>turkish autismlord gifting shit to gain repProofs? That's right you don't have any and you never did cause it never happened.
When will SEA hour begin or are seafags too busy being normies
>>192189838Even better, prove you're not turkish, but albanian Rex.Proofs can work both ways you know :^)
>>192190275you can just ask your buttbuddy chou, he probably remembers from the anus aches
>>192189618wow, the newfagness is so strong with this one it's almost unbelievablelurk moar
>Rex considered gifting something to Raptor when he first appeared on /wowsg/Who wants to bet Rex is going to delete these posts? It'd explain why he demands "proofs". Fucking cockroach.
>>192191163>Rex gifted Raptor Bismarck But that's not true I gifted it to him.>Chou Who is he again? Don't know him.
Who are these people? Why have I never seen them in the /vg/ chat on EU before Discord was a thing? Why did these people with thousands of battles played show up after Raptor shilled his own stream and the general on Reddit in 2016 March? Why was Rex so kind and nice to Raptor at the start?Do you have something to admit, Rex1121? You claim this is not true and demand proofs like the little autistic roach you are, so how about you prove to us you've been around here before 2016 March with a screenshot that clearly showa you're in a div with another known anon from here? Let's see it, stop screeching and prove it.
>>192191163Not sure about him giving Raptor a ship. But him giving irl stuff to Chou does ring a bell. The again they were pretend slav friends from before that.
>>192191163paranoid turk has been exposed, expect him going apeshit and shitflinging random anons and rapter like he has been doing since the beginning
>>192191664>implying Raptor would let a cockroach know his address
>>192191649Aldiman, valthasar, darkwingfighter and metalbawx and a few othwrs were in /vg/ chat before discord.The others, i dont think so at all.
>>192191649Macrobam, thousandfoldsteel, raikoho, optical and others were /wowsg/ as well.
>>192191802Screenshot or replays? I've never seen them, I've even asked other CBTfags and they said the same. Did they change their IGN and what was it before? If you don't, who are you? Some people have credibility and vouching for literal whos as anonymous isn't enough.
>>192191913There is no question mark next to OpticaPL's name. Do this >>192191916Vouching for somebody anonymously is pointless because there's no credibility.
So how about them boats, tactics and greentext stories about dumb pubbies, huh.
>>192191649Pretty much this aside from a few people who were in /vg/ chat and you didn't list like>>192191802>>192191913This is the shit i've been pointing out; now since im clearly not the only one who has noticed that, i'd like to hear the official explanation.
>>192192043Nah, some drama to find out who is redditor and isn't is much more interesting
>>192191649Nimrath, Kaptistus and Meggo are from NOFUN WoT caln I believe.
>>192192109Ah, I see.Can we have a World of Warships General next to talk about the game and stuff, and a World of Warships Generals General for all the drama?
>>192191996Yeah, that would be the case if it wasn't for a few people who have been playin since literal ages (CBT) and can distinguish actual members from "???"
>>192192175Why then some of those people have been playing WoWs for a long time and never ever have they interacted or joined the /vg/ chat once?I'm genuinely asking because that's a odd behaviour.
>>192191649>RoflsealBut here has been in /wowsg/ discord since forever and is from here.
>mfw Rex got called out by a terrible autistic strawman (Pink) and he decided to make his own server because of it YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP ANYMORE.
>>192192370Wrong, have seen him playing in div with random people not even from HOTEL only after the clan was created.Remember, it was Rex starting this witchhunt by pushing it too far with this bullshit.If he wants to have his personal clan where he can invite his freund he can have it, just dont pretend its /vg/ clan to bait anons.
>>192192353Dunno but you do know that not everyone who comes here also visits ingame /vg/ channel.
>>192192624>>192191664>>192191649>>192191163Rex on suicide watch LMAO
>>192192624Eh anon, from that conversation it obvious that server existed before that.
>>192192667Wait wtfu cant div up with outsiders if you're in a clan?
>>192192963Read the post you illiterate roach. He said he's never seen Roflseal play with anons BEFORE the clan was made.
>>192192891Maybe?But there's also evidence about everything he has been called out for in the past few days.Case closed, HOTEL is a non-related personal clan that belongs to Rex.This is absolutely legit, what's wrong is him shilling his clan here and pretending.
>>192193148Is Rex the one doing the OP? That's news to me.And I would disagree, sure there are couple people in clan (Versker and CawCaw) have not been seen in /vg/ channel but then again not everyone goes there. And from what I read in this thread and in the past, the accusations were about them being leddit cucks or non 4chan people. However, I do agree that Clan mentions should be removed all together and we should stick to only in-game channels. Ever since clans showed up in game channels have been much less populated.
>>192191649>HOXX VPN GemanyWhy would anyone what to have a German IP, kek.
>>192194146Can't access piratebay in UK.
Not only did this illiterate roach lie about anything, from clan matters, to ethnicity, and about him shilling and gifting people shit to gain their trust; he also has been offending and sperging at long standing people with his paranoid attitude.I am speechless.
>>192193798Im not saying that, but he definetly shilled this as /vg/ clan and such lie has been sticking/ignored for far too long despite the contrary being obvious.
How do I load AP?
>>192198075what ship are you in?
What's the best tier 4 BB and why is it Myogi?
>>192198075>We have ships that only shot AP>We might get ships that only shoot HEIt will never come to pass, right?
>>192200216>being bad>not being good
>>192200695>using a huge manned torpedo means being good
So, any of you played World of crappy planes 2.0? How is it?
>>192198449Nah. Even Brit battleships have AP and they basically never use them.
>>192201617I used WoWP to get a year or so of free prem time in WoT way back when.Haven't had a look at the new game yet, but since I doubt it'll allow such a thing again why bother.
>Want to play this game again>Judging from what I've been reading the game is in its worst state yetIs this true? I know there's controversy around the conqueror and radar
>Luger still mad his shitty waifu clan isn't the official /wowsg/ EU clan
>>192203139What?Luger has no clan.
>>192203139upboated +1:) you won the epic poster medal, sir
>>192191649Last I checked Kittykami was in reddit too so there is that and so is Liq
>>192205281Kittykami has been here, on /wowsg/ since CBT. No idea who Liq is.
>>192203139>Rex namedropping and accusing people for shit and things that don't existmmm i haven't seen this happen before, not at all. kys cockroach, u live in fucking Germany and ur talking down to your master
>>192126048>>192126150>>192126571Another day, another group of Scharns that suicide on my team with godly ones on the other team. Every fucking time.
Hello friends. What did I miss? I see I have my own clan now?
>>192205281>>192205920Liq was in Luger's disco long before he joined the clan.
>>192210019Luger doesn't have a clan last I checked
>>192210019I would join your awesome clan in a hearthbeat.If there was one
>>192211874>Pyan wants to join Luger's clanNews to meINB4 It's Spamist/Rock falseflagging
>>192203248>>192211874At one point Luger complained about Rex's leadership of the clan, left HOTEL and suggested that he would establish his own clan. EU players on Luger's own Discord said it was unnecessary and there was no support from the idea accept from some NAutists. Luger later rejoined HOTEL without issue and we've all lived happily ever after since then.
>>192212753My only issue, and I think it's a very valid one, is that Rex keeps inviting randoms and non-4chan people. I just tolerate it for now because clans don't do shit right now anyway.
>>192212753That's not true, Luger never made a clan. He got kicked by Rex and then people got pissed and Rex invited him again. Rex kicked him because Luger kept calling him a Turk. Also, no one gives a fuck about clans because there's nothing you can do, of course there are autists like Tioga, Iron/Randgris, Spammist etc who care but they're not exactly decent people to begin with.
clan battles when?
>>192214670When i stop touching myself at nightnever
>>192214136Quote where I said Luger established a clan.
>>192214136what the fuck, i hate that turkshit now
>>192215025>luger created a clanGot you pesky muslim.
Well too bad luger is such a fucking cuck that gets ordered around by a turkish immigrant and leaves his reddit clan just to join back and suck his dick.This is the state of germany nowadays, and he is supposed to be a neonazi lmao, thing about the average joe; would literally let his wife get raped because it would be racist to prevent that lmao
>>192202818Not really. There's been stupidly broken ships before. This is no different.
>EU vg memeclan is fullfug
Ohio /wowsg/Good to see you're still the dumpster fire I know.
>>192212753>there was no support from the idea accept from some NAutistsIt's almost as if all this shitposting was an attempt to sow discord among EU so they devolve into the same shitflinging and drama NA has.
>>192216495>dumpster fireyou are smalltime
>All these people trying to cause a rift between EU clan members.This has to be the work of SEA monkeys.
>>192218078>people trying to cause a rift between EU clan membersI wonder, is it really SEA?
>mount DD with all top notch flags and modules>match is a total shitshow with lobotomized teammates and I am completely unable to make a one single kill because rudder gets disabled by every single hit several times in a rowI am absolutely certain that RNG goes up several hundred % for favour of your components getting disabled whenever you mount anything worth a damn
>>192218078>>192217263>people pointing out real issues and Rex's autism>waaa it's a plot to divide EU!!!Wow, is this the Rex's cronies official version?You really don't know where else to hit your head now, do you?
>Thanks for taking part in the PT>Here's a link to a survey regarding it>Opens using the in-game browser
>RN BB AP are with short fuseSo unlike the Koenig I should try to aim for the upper belt and even the superstructure instead of waterline when I'm in a British Battleship? Just asking before I move onto Queen Elizabeth.
>>192222017>using AP in bong BBs
>>192220507Whatever makes you sleep at night anon.
>>192222017basically yes, and only at under 10km, ap cruisers all day tho
Guys how do we fix cruisers? Seriously right now playing cruisers has all the weaknesses of DDs and BBs without any of the benefits
>>192225508The only solution I can see is to severely nerf BB gun power. It's hard to see a way of implementing this that doesn't result in BBs becoming very frustrating to play.
>>192225508Cap citpen damage at a moderate percentage of health, say, 25%.
>>192229081Hasn't she suffered enough?
>>192229787Best day of my life
>>192225508Make the game more objective based, make cruisers better at dealing with those while nerfing DPM and buffing survivability
>>192218078No, SEA shitposting is false accusations and turbo autism.This is EU vs one persistent butthurt newfag Turk.
>>192231156Like a cap speed bonus? What other objective is there outside of missions?
the rental slavbote is so comfywhat are some other comfy botes
>>192232919I meant having more complicated objectives than just caps, things like escorting AI ships or moving people around or searching for subs or anything like that. Could be interesting an asymmetric and would leave plenty of room for more flexible cruisers to shine vs just clashing over cap points.
>>192233126are you a masochist?
>>192233275No anon, having 6 inaccurate guns is the comfiest. Doesn't matter if you're at 18 or 3 kilometers, if you hit or not is all in RNGs hands.I hate the fucking Myogi so much, goddamnit. Almost quit the game over that piece of shit
>>192233491It's a tier 4 man, just free xp it
>>192233743I just started out and really badly wanted to get to the carrier. God knows I won't give the jap BBs a shot if it means grinding 20k XP to get the Kongo.
>>192233937Well, put it aside for now and experiment. Find something fun.
>>192209186>Playing 3/0/1 Saipan>Complain about losing
>>192234428Honestly, I'm not sure about finding fun in this game. I guess I'm just not very good or constantly get clubbed, either way I'm losing most of my games and tend to die early
>>192236208>I'm not sure about finding fun in this game.You and everyone else. Give the german battleships a try, they're easy and forgiving, even at low tiers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iv7HMC_ZcM&feature=youtu.be>Backdrop has carrier
>>192237273Who gives a shit? Only a very small, but loud, part of the playerbase plays carriers. No one will miss them on CB's, and for good reason.
>>192236197I'm a 1/1/1 Lexington, not touched Saipan in ages.
If I play with a rental ship now and buy it later after the rental time has passed, will it keep the XP I gained with it during that time? What about the captain and mods?
>>192082582>remember playing Konigsberg>don’t remember playing NurembergAnybody else feel this way?
Just got HoshoHow does one CVNT?>>192233126>>192233491>mfw I actually kinda like the Myogi and will still grind for the Kongo after Hoshotbqh, I just range dance and run away if they try to chase me since Myogi is actually stronger from behind.imagine my surprise when they give me the Scharnhorst and it just plays like an easy mode Myogi
>>192225508Give them -2 +1 level spread.
I want to cuddle Misaki!
Is the Graf Spee worth buying?
>>192245661Wrong thread lad.
discord is kill, and so is my will to live
>discord is down
now that discord is down, it can be safely answered anonymously:Which wowsge wud u fucc?
did i just get banned from discord?I bet the jews did this >>192246395definitly Cartman, hes hot af
>>192245963>>192246117hope it stays that way
>>192246457no the shit posting just comes back here.
>live a peaceful and happy discord life>visit /wowsg/ thread first time in months>cringeworthy drama and obnoxious cartoon spam left and right
So I thought I signed up using a referral code but I don't have that premium chinese ship. I'm already level 5 though. Should I make a new account or just deal with it?
>>192248792>premium chinese ship1. You should get USS Texas, not some Chinese boat.2. You will get it after you do first battle in T6 boat, not T5
>>192248792Also, have you got Diana (T2 prem?)
>>192249440I think you get a low tier premium on a fresh referral account too, besides the Texas on T5 or 6.
>>192249569Nope but at the same time I don't even see the Diana in the tech tree for any side. Is it even still in the game?
>>192250021I may just be blind but shouldn't it be above the Oleg?
>>192225508>fix matchmaking to +1/-1 at every tier>give cruiser repair party at every tier>reduce citadel damage to 50% or 75% of what it is now>buff full pen damage a little to compensate>rework overmatch mechanics
>>192250021Tech tree only shows the premiums you can buy with doubloons unless you use a mod.
>>192251440I see. Well I've just reached tier 3 battleships. Should I restart or keep going?
why the fuck can tier 5 DD's face radar cruisers with radar almost as long as their fucking torpedoes
>>192247113If Discord life is so comfy, why do certain autists like Spammist and Rex need safe spaces lmao
>>192252037Ok. Which country is the most fun to play as? I was using IJN last time but maybe I should try something new.
>>192246432Why won't Cartman join the actual /wowsg/
>>192253005Depends on the line.German BBs are great fun, USN DDs are fun, IJN cruisers are good fun.
>>192253498Which one lets me feel like a big man as I left click things to death?
>>192253592any BB line
>>192253658Krauts it is then
>>192253592German or British battleships, depending on whether you prefer passive death auras or no-skill cheesing.
I will continue to charge in and be an offensive player no matter how fucking retarded and slow my team is
>>192254420Wouldn't it be better to stay with your team and kill anyone who charges in then swarm the survivors?
>>192254420Remember lad, you can't cycle your guns if you're dead. Knowing *when* to charge in is the crucial skill. If you just welp right at the start you're a shitter.
Imagine if you had a class of ship that was fast, versatile, accurate, had tons of utility; whose only weakness was citadels.What an underpowered class that would be.
Post yfw the Tier X of the second USN BB line is BB-65-2 with 3x3 18"/47.
>>192255651>fastDestroyers?>versatileBattleships?>accurateNobody?>Tons of utilityDestroyers?>Only weakness is citadelsBattleships?
>>192255772>Projectile Types and Weights: 18"/47 (45.7 cm) - 3,850 lbs. (1,746.3 kg)
>>192255651wtf nerf BBs cruisers litearlly unplayable
What ships benefit from IFHE?
>>192258905Atlanta, Akizuki. No one else matters.
>>192258905Basically anything with gun calibers up to 155mm, with diminishing returns the larger the gun. It's not ACTUALLY worth it on all these ships though, only the ones that rely heavily on gun DPM, so it excludes most destroyers.
>>192256498>No class is accurate
>unlock bepis>supposedly has excellent AP>fuckbad USN ballistics prevent it from accurately hitting anything remotely trying to dodge>15 second reload time only makes it worsewhat is this ship even supposed to do? guns cycle too slowly to work on destroyers or long-range cruisers and not enough penetration to work on battleships
>>192260035if you're not penning BBs you're shooting the wrong spot
>>192260225>8" AP>into belt armor rated against 14" APYou 'avin a giggle mate? What is the right spot?
>>192260379most BBs have an area in the hull above the belt that usually goes from 25/32-152mm or whateveryou can pen that with CA sized guns for good damage per salvocheck the armor model on the bismarck or any BB really, you'll see it
>>192259394Yeah it helps them.
>>192260604So aim for the upper belt and extended belt? But that's a pretty small target to hit, especially at range and considering arcs. Even dispersion can probably turn a good hit into a failure, right?Do you just close to suicide range (<8km) and hope for the best? Alternate fire/correct with your two guns?
>>192261404You're able to hit it surprisingly consistently in my experience with Pepsi. I've landed 14k salvos on soft targets like the QEs before. Just aim higher than usual and adjust as needed. BBs usually don't think cruiser ap is a threat so you can land good salvos before they angle.
>>192261574I just citpenned a Kirishima from a long-range potshot. Colour me surprised.
There is literally nothing wrong with being Turkish.
>>192262479That's USN AP for you. Enjoy it, I know I did.
>>192262638oh jesus fucking christ, here we go again
>>192261404it can be a gamble at longer range, yeswhether you want to shoot AP for big damage or HE for smaller damage+chance of fires is up to you, they both have their ups and downs as with most lines- the difference here is that strong AP is USN's highlightabout arcs, the simple solution is learn to lead: yes they're not the best and hitting DDs is iffy from longer ranges, but hitting cruisers that are unaware, poorly angled or making a broadside turn even at farther out ranges is doable and something you should take to if you want to do more damage in a game
There is nothing wrong with being Turkish.
>>192263576>learn to leadI can lead the guys just fine. I can hit him, it's just that in the 10s it takes my shells to arrive, most ships can WASD out of the way. It's the poor arcs that are fucking me, y'know?
>>192263958yeah WASDing ships are a pain in the ass, sometimes you have to play the opportunist and wait for the situations I mentioned before, or close the range if you aren't in danger of getting the clicc by an enemy BB or somethingsometimes you can hold in a salvo and wait for them to try getting all guns on you, then your thicc AP fucks them midway through the turns because lol improved pen angles
Sup /wowsg/Just got unlocked the Z23Which module to research first/last on the bote?I'm thinking torp >> hull >> range >>gunsAlso: any tips on playing the Z23?
Are there any other countries other than England that can do a full carrier tree?
>>192272912Only if they make it almost entirely out of paper.
>>192265645get the hull and guns firyou need those to get the extra gun on your ship
>>192273136>>192273136>get the hull and guns fir>you need those to get the extra gun on your shipThanks for the advice anon, sounds like the Z23 is.more dependent on guns than her predecessors.A few follow-up discussion /questions thoOn Gaede and Maass I tend to not use the gun with the exception of bullying enemy DD to death and out of the cap zone. Against larger vessels, I find myself more likely to use torp as I find the smoke duration/ vintage insufficient for effective gun memery, hence I thought it would be useful to get the torp upgrade first.Does Z23 shares similar gameplay to garde and Maass, or did I played them wrong?
>>192274116With jet plons?
>>192274438is historical. experimental chaika was fitted with prototype jet engine and 20mm cannons for makings the zoom and booms
*lubes own anus*
as soon as radar becomes a thing, destroyer stops being fun
Did someone say secondaries?I fluffed my shots a bit because I was laughing too much, 270 of those hits were on the Amagi
>second game ever as un-upgraded Hosho>heavily damage multiple ships>destroy all of enemy Langley's fighters>destroy most of their torpedo bombers>destroy enemy Langley myself>...>get sunk by two cruisers and a destroyer multi-fire, but still torp one cruiser as last team member aliveIs this the foretold "cVnt lyfe"?
>>192281838Wait until you reach T6, youll get to drop manually.Enjoy your 120k average damage
Thanks to the guy who suggested German BB's I'm having boatloads of fun
>>192252945fuck off dramafag>>192247113and fuck off discordfag
>>192284531You're welcome, buddy! The Nassau is an excellent bote and the Kaisers and Konigs aren't half bad too. The Bayern is decent, and Gneisenau and Bisko are downright comfy. Just remember to keep your bow about 20 degrees to either side of the greatest threat.
>torpedo the fuck out of enemy destroyer in smoke>torp, smoke, and re-torp backcapping cruiser fuck>spend rest of game plinking last enemy ships in their basecomfyWere I to continue with IJN DDs which line is better?(Might start the Pan-Asian line as well once it releases, if that matters)
>>192284779fuck off fag i suggested them>>192284531yw
Why is new mexico so comfy?
>>192286006A dozen 14" guns in a comfy tier where there's no fast battleships to leave you behind, and she's real pretty besides. What's not to like?
>>192260035Well for starters USN Freedom™ CA AP is unlocked only at top Benis gun.Second, USN CA ballistic is about the same as IJN CA ballistic up until T10, so you should get used to it, if you ever want IJN CA
>>192286672Yeah, I've noticed that my turrets turn fucking slow so I've already been aiming for the upgraded guns. I've also been getting up-tiered a fair bit (>>192276569) onto unfamiliar maps so that's also been unpleasant. On the upside, this weekend should make for some productive grinding if I can get the hang of it. The slower turrets and RoF make her a lot more sluggish than I'm used to, like I'm driving a smaller, barely-armored battleship. Probably doesn't help that I'm pretty afraid of shooting in general, because shooting means revealed, and revealed means I get lit up.Is it generally a good idea to stick with the blob, or be off on the sides?
>>192273697Best way to use Z23 is to ignore caps and just flank the enemy side that is pushing while hoping they don't have any DD with better concealment than you escorting them.Of course, sometimes you can't just disregard capturing points since you'll be often teamed with a russian DD or something else not bothering with caps.But you will soon realize that it's hard to get good battles if you're actively contesting a lot, cause pretty much everything outspots you by a few hundred meters in your MM.Coupled with slow firing guns and a big hull you're a tasty target for everyone (especially baBBy AP).All things considered Z23 is an average hull with the best harassing torpedoes at T8.
>>192136269Because SEApes love to shitpost and blame other people for it. That's why they need more data on users from here. Also this >>192136494
>>192288719>holy trinity>5 members
>>192290659Math is hard :(
>>192246395Hrmm. I'm not a homo so either Iri or Suzy (Before you say shit I'm not fucking HP, Albeit he is a kind person acting like he is /ck/) If Push comes to shove and I had to fuck a male I'd fuck some kind males like Mosh, Linn, HP or Morriak because he shares some common interests
>>192288719What ever happened to Wave anyway?
>>192293136He stopped playing with angsty shitters, aka 90% of /wowsg/.
>>192293136Quit the game a long time ago.
>>192292027What a fucking faggot.
>>192294274he and others gave up on playing with the average joe on /wowsg/ because people were gullible enough to fall for lunaticred and spammist's perpetuated falseflagging, shitposting and empty words
>>192292027Agreed. I'm not HP_Lovesauce but he's super kind and people tip him a lot of money because of it. He is also not a liar, samefag or anything like that. Him and Suzy should go for a date IRL!!!
>>192240394The usual way it works is that the XP is applied to the T1 ship of that nation; the captain is sent to the reserve (or taken away if he was a rental too); the upgrades, signals and camo are put in your inventory.>>192241238I've never seen any ships by those names in the game.>>192253054to intelligant>>192254420Continue throwing games then.
>>192258905Essentially any light cruiser (except KM and of course tech-tree RN) which you might reasonably expect someone to have a 14 pt captain on as well as Akizuki. Destroyers from T5-7 do also benefit, but it's a much bigger trade off for themThis is somewhat out of date, but still a good overview:https://www.reddit.com/r/WorldOfWarships/comments/5ordcb/datamined_list_of_ifhe_penetration_changes/?st=iy4lkyhc&sh=66f14bd9>>192259394I think it's noteworthy than in a competitive scenario, IFHE is much less useful than usual for Belfast. That being said, it seems like it will be a long time before we ever see anything competitive at T7 again.>>192259714>Standard HE pen at 155 mm: 26.00 mm>IFHE pen at 155 mm: 33.80 mm>Worth it>Standard HE pen at 156 mm: 26.00 mm>IFHE pen at 156 mm: 33.80 mm>Not worth itReally making me think here anon…>>192285390I'd say the Akizuki line is overall better, but keep in mind you will need a dedicated captain build to enjoy Akizuki at all.>>192286594>Embarrassingly long reload>Cholesterol-clogged turret traverse>Hopelessly addicted to High Fructose HE syrup>Thinks she's hot shit for having the best AA in the county fair, despite being completely outshone by the recent German and bong immigrants in this regardPathetic desu
>>192272912Paper & LL line for Frogs
>>192301351Is that flying pancake meme-plane on that carrier?
>>192302357no just a bad photo, it's a twin engine aircraft
>>192303929:( would be fun prem with those meme plons. Special fighter ability -- full stop. Plane slows down to almost a crawl
>>192303929Breguet 693 to be exact
>>192304191he he. Baguette :DDDDD
>>192304057 For France there's not a bad amount of ships for a line and premiums if you take the WG approach to designs (which is nothing compared to just making things up like they did for the Germans)Tier 4: DixmudeTier 5: BearnTier 6: La Fayette Tier 7: PA 5Tier 8: JoffreTier 9: PA 25Tier 10: PA 28Premiums:Tier 7: PA 19Tier 8: Arromanches
>>192304673And here's the Vichy carrier plan
>Check the WoWP forums to see if there's any tutorials or help on how the game mode works, since I found it fun enough and now I want to get to know a bit more than just aimlessly fooling around.>It's all complaints about 2.0 RUINED the game and how it all used to be so much better.
i can't be the only one who thinks Atago has aged badly right, i mean its pretty dogshit in the current meta and tier 8 mm gets tier 10 constantly
>>192306146Cruisers at t8 were always shit. it's just that Atago is a tiny bit less shit than the other t8 cruisers.
>>192304673What would FR CVs even be about? Genuinely asking. I was thinking a lot about other CV trees like RN CVs, IT CVs and of course russian CVs)))))))))))))))For KM CVs, as Graf Zepp is currently the only one to go by, it would be huge strike + secondaries. The only paper ships would be T8-10, all others existed in one way or another and were being worked on, as most of them were simply conversions.Tier 4: AusoniaTier 5: JadeTier 6: DeGrasseTier 7: WeserTier 8: Flugzeugträger B (GZ-class)Tier 9: Flugdeckkreuzer A IITier 10 Flugdeckkreuzer A IVPremiums: Shin'yo (Jade-class, was given to the Japanese, who also finished it)I just wanna see more CV lines :(
>>192306146It's the rule, not the exception. Literally everything from the beta era has been powercreeped hard.
>>192306146>>192306258>>192307140I feel it's still very good. The heal still makes her one of the strongest T8 cruisers.
>be pan asia dd>radar up>kill enemy dd>steal his smoke
>>192307945>Steal his smoke>Get radar'd
>>192308654>get radared while sitting in enemy radarchinks BTFO
>>192305921military base>industry>airfield>everything else.
>>192309203Why can't I change planes when respawning anymore? I could do that the first day.
>>192310126From what I understand there are 2 types of capturable airfields Short strip where you can simply respawnAnd Huge airfield where you can also respawn, but also change type of plane, shorten respawn cooldown etc.
>>192310423Makes sense. I'll try to look more carefully at the bases next time. Thanks
>>192307854Being the strongest in a field of uselss turds that quite literally lower thier team's chance to win just by being on the team is no big feat.
>>192313221Atago is not the strongest T8 cruiser though.
Ded thread. ded boats
>>192307115Who knows, "national characteristics" for carriers is twofold, the planes and the ship itself, the French were mostly influenced by the Anglo-American experience during the war, especially the Pacific as France had all those pesky colonies in Asia to put down. They'll probably just do something stupid like give them speed boost or some shit
>>192314071That just means she is even worse now.
>>192294912Half of what you said is a bald-faced lie
>>192319583Nice try. What are the chances that you're one of the "trinity" trying to stir things up against Lovesauce?
>WG >Has enough money to build their own engine>Can support ded game for years>Doesn't have money to hire some coders to fix the buggy chat.
>>192320832This is bullshitLunatic is a 2 meter tall pillar man
>get a Gneisenau>bring her to play a co-op to test her a bit because all things are stock and I don't want to waste the 100% XP bonus before I go to bed>expecting all bots except me>still there are three other human players "testing their ships">bots' side get an Izumo because one of the human players have an Izumo too>no shit.jpg>rush A>friendly bots always do silly things like ramming each other and sailing in straight lines>suddenly an Izumo>I guess I'm fucked>but after I melt the enemy DD I go circlejerking with the lovely enemy Izumo>successfully torp her twice and shoot her with loads of Deutsche Quality AP cum to make her dead>I come up with the 2nd most XP>meanwhile the human Izumo is at the bottom 3 because he obviously doesn't do jackshitSuch is life, I suppose.
The anime Graf Spee is on sale. Anyone got it? Is it good?
so now that War gaming maybe starting to work on Bomber models, this maybe the best time to ask for a Command and Conquer or supreme commander style RTS or a Mow:AS style RTT or hell a game with traits of all those games with all units from all 3 games
>>192328858It's a Graf with an anime captain and VA.
>>192328858Speaking as someone who got the normal one for free, no.
how do i get creditsI'm always struggling to upgrade things because no moneys
>>192332048Missouri. If not I hear Prinz is second best. Aside from all this crap you can try to play a ship you find fun and make the time pass without feeling it. If all else fails buy some
>>192332048play T6 and do decent at it (if you don't want to shell out for premium stuff)
>>192332048High tier prems.
>>1923320481. Try to buy ships/modules on sales.2. Buy prem if you can3. If you don't have prem account, and don't want to buy it, try to do set of missions on PTServer to get 1 day for free, and grind the hell out of T6 ships on that day. 4. If you can get prem like Scharn, it is hard to do bad in it --> it preints silver even without prem5. become better, if you are good, you won't lose money even at T9-10, even without prem6. Try to join clan. Bonus is small, but it adds upAlso, try to do missions that give you credits
>>192332048Go through inventory and see if you can sell anything
>>192332048>Play T7-9 premsT7 prems are usually a good balance of fun, performance and earnings.>Do PTS for prem time and signal flags.Especially valuable are the special signals, which are otherwise difficult to obtain.>Choose the consumables containerTheir contents are worth more than those of the credits container, and you should be using prem consumables where possible.>Try to keep a small reserve of Zulu signals ready for any premium time you might obtain>Don't use India Bravo Terrathree (-repair cost signal) on any ship lower than T8The sale price of IB3 is more than the saving it provides on lower tiers.>When you have prem time, play your highest tier ships.>When you don't have prem time, play mostly mid-tier ships.>>192335406>Play mid-tiers when you have premWaste of prem time. The credit multiplier applies before costs, so you should play ships with the highest gross earnings, i.e.: high-tier ships, unless you absolutely suck at them.
>>192339897I know it's basically all empty space and has sturdy supports but it still looks like it's gonna topple over and take the ship with it at any moment.
>>192339897>>192340116Do you guys know where one might find a description of what was where in those built-up masts?
>>192332048Early?I just did the ranking up mission things, I got a few millions.
>>192339897SEApes once again failed to keep thread afloat
>>192340336For once weebs made themselves useful:http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/1806141
>>192304673>>192304754There are a few other premiums too, the PA4 (without the quadruple 380mm turret) and the planned conversion of the heavy cruiser Duequesne
>>192343050And this is the final heavy cruiser conversion proposal (that never went through)
>>192340336Offices of important people, less-important people, and people who think they're important.
>>192343050I kinda like the look of the design
>>192342904But what about the Nagatos? Those are much more open.
>>192345680I know that both the Nagato and Yamato-class had an elevator running through the entire superstructure but not much beyond that. Since all of the pagoda style reconstructions happened around the same time I assume they have a similar arrengement.
>>192342904I like how every time one this guy's comics gets translated the danbooru comment section gets flooded by insecure americans ranting about how much better their Navy was. Like it's okay, you won, you don't have to convince anyone anymore.
Weebs must suffer
MM TOTALLY BALANCE, DA!>double Conqueror>triple Minotaurs>all pushing as one unstoppable smoke cloud of doom
>>192353389Just hydro them lmoa
How do I Nicholas when it's bottom tier?
>>192355678You pretend to be soviet destroyer without the range.
>>192355678Sit behind an island and wait for BBs to yolo torp. :^)
>>192355678>DD-449>Bottom tierStart complaining about the lack of T8s
>>192298996>I'd say the Akizuki line is overall better, but keep in mind you will need a dedicated captain build to enjoy Akizuki at all.Mind giving me the rundown on Akizuki crew skills?(perhaps LS, DE, Inertial, Concealment, etc?)
>>192358029IFHE is by far the most important skill. Without it, your HE will shatter on basically everything.
IFHE > Concealment Expert for gun destroyers?
any chance of getting the ARP ships now on NA? I missed out
>>192358805Shitters will be shitters, even in good ships.
>>192358029This is my planned build for Akizuki (only up to 16 pt right now): http://shipcomrade.com/captcalc/1100000000000001000000100010001119I haven't taken RL yet and I may yet take AR and a 3-pointer instead.There are a lot of viable 3 point skills for Akizuki, so think carefully about them. DE is a solid pick now that IFHE doesn't demolish your fire chance. The second one I'm considering is SI. SE is advocated by some, but the percentage HP gain is not that good, so I decided to pass on it. BFT is not a bad choice either, but I think the duck already dunks other DDs hard enough that DE is more valuable. As I'm sure you've noticed, essentially none of these skills are useful for typical IJN DDs.Akizuki suffers a lot without at least a 14 pt captain: CE and IFHE are both crucial for her. If you can't give her a high-skill captain straight away, at least try out some incomplete builds on PT and decide which L4 skill you can go without.I recommend PT as a first skill for almost all DDs and cruisers.
>>192359634>>192358801Probably want to go IFHE over CE. The extra damage is much more noticable than another ~800m concealment.
>be me>kaiser>tag enemy battleship with 8 of 10 shots, HE>couple thousand>enemy orion tags me with a single HE shot>4000 damage and set on fire immediatelywhat in the FUCK
>>192362378More penetration = more damagealso napalm soaked shells
>>192362378COME CHEER UP ME LADS, 'TIS TO GLORY WE STEER
>>192362378>german anything>shooting HE
>>192363021i was pelting cruisers and hadnt swapped to AP before the orion jumped medo i just always use AP on german ships?
Krautpill me on the german BBs.
>>192363113This is why RN bbs are cancer. They dumb down the population.Yes, always use AP, no matter what.Aim for the superstructure when enemies are angled, that means aiming a little higher than usual.
>>192363680>Yes, always use APIs dis some finna b8??
>>192363680>RN BBsis there a booklet with all of the acronyms
>>192362703>More penetration = more damageyfw>>192363113>Pelting cruisers with non-RN BB HEwtf am I readingThe other dude is meming on you though. If you're in a BB and have an enemy bow-locked against you (i.e.: neither can overmatch with AP) HE is a good choice, particularly if they have high HP. This doesn't arise much until T8 though. German cruisers and DDs of course use HE as and when the situation demands, though you should take every available opportunity to use AP, as it does much better damage, provided it can pen.
>>192364105Yes, spend 30 seconds switching from AP to HE and then another to switch back.USN BBs plunge, you can deal 5-10k salvos on angled superstructures.IJN BBs pen, you can penetrate from surprising anglesGerman BBs are brawlers, you're not going to be in a position to consistently fling HEAll non-RN BB HE is trash, because DPM is not meant for BBs, BBs are burst damage.More penetration = More damage. It means less of your shots are going to pen the enemy and deal damage, instead of bouncing, or in this case, shattering.Did you just start playing today?
>>192364021The important ones>BB: Battleship (12+ inch guns)>CA: Heavy Cruiser (8" guns)>CL: Light Cruiser (6" guns)>DD: Destroyer (5" guns)
>>192363268Very forgiving armour schemes, usually at the expense of either gun power or concealment. Strong long-range AA at most tiers.Low-tiers are easy mode. They have lower-calibre guns than their counterparts, though in practice this just means they have a shorter reload, as no one at these tiers knows how to angle properly.Mid-tiers are a sea of gimmicks. T6 has good overmatch; T7 is modestly armed but has speed, AA, some secondaries and torps to make up for it; T8 is the king of secondary builds.High tiers are the tanks of tanks. Their armament befits their tier and they have essentially no weaknesses that anyone other than a torpedobote can exploit in a 1v1 duel.
>it's another "you lost with double the XP of anyone on your team" episode
>>192365045What do they do that American or Japanese ones do not? The only one that stands out for me is the T10.
>>192365474not take citadels, tank, brawlThey aren't really that good now that there's a very strong HE meta and USN BB citadels were buffed.They are natural pushers / spearheads into caps. They have radar to detect torps as well and their secondaries can melt enemy DDs at close range.
>>192365636>not take citadels, tank, brawlIsn't that what the British ones do too? Or am I mistaken, I thought the conqueror was good at having a bullshit citadel and brawling.
>>192365785Conquerer is good at doing damage and not dying no matter what retarded shit you do with her. In general though, british battleships don't benefit so much from closing in to torpedo range simply because they're using HE all the time.
>>192365785Yes, but they take damage in a different way, they just reheal whatever is done to them. They have the most HP, germans have the most armor.german BBs effectively resist the damage.all BBs are capable of doing BB things like tanking and brawling and stuff, it's just that some are specialized in certain areas. It's hard to brawl a yamato simply because of the fact that the yamato can just overmatch the shit out of your armor and deal tons of damage with its bullshit accuracy.
>>192364824>Yes, spend 30 seconds switching from AP to HE and then another to switch back.…and loading AP takes 0 s, does it? Not that it matters if you're just going to autobounce it off of their bow and shatter it on their hull plating.Of course you can get lucky with a pen or two here and there. I once scored 8k on a nose in Yamato with Hipper's AP. Does that mean that's the optimum tactic for cruisers dealing with angled BBs?>you're not going to be in a position to consistently fling HEThat's not what I said though. I said in a certain type of situation, which KM BBs are essentially just as likely to find themselves in as other BBs, HE is a viable choice.>BBs are burst damage.Yeah and BBs with lots of guns have great burst fire chance. If you know an enemy's DCP is down landing a fire or two where the alternative is hoping for a single AP pen the latter has the potential to be a far more damaging salvo.>It means less of your shots are going to pen the enemy and deal damage, instead of bouncing, or in this case, shattering.The guy said he dealt some damage with his own HE salvo. That means his HE has enough pen. More pen = same damage.>>192365474Not eat citadelsExtensive secondary battery 'Fuck you go away' zone from T8 upLarge areas of the ship covered in cruiser HE-resistant plate.>>192365636>They have radarMissouri is the only BB with radar. No KM BBs have it.>to detect torpsRadar doesn't detect torps.Did you just start playing today?>>192365785RN BBs stay at mid-range and HE spam. They only need to get close enough to land enough shells to set someone on fire after their DCP goes down to work effectively. Getting any closer just makes it more difficult to fade into stealth when necessary.
>>192366116>It's hard to brawl a yamato simply because of the fact that the yamato can just overmatch the shit out of your armor and deal tons of damage with its bullshit accuracy.You've got brawling confused with bow-tanking. It's easy to brawl a Yamato because she's about as manoeuvrable as Fort Drum, her turrets turn according to a calendared schedule, her citpussy is waving in the air for all to see and landing 2/3 shells on a target 17 km away is meaningless when the enemy is within arm's reach of your muzzle.
>>192367125your autism is showing.
>>192367331I have never brawled another ship intentionally showing my broadside to them.In fact that is about the worst advice you can give someone.
>>192367779Correct, we should be namedropping and dramaposting instead.
>>192368146You're just trolling and purposefully teaching someone how to be bad at the game, or you don't understand the concepts which you are talking about.
>>192368385Your autism is showing.
>>192369119>playing an autistic boat simulator>on a board that is almost entirely autistic neet shitposter and FBI agents>calling anyone else autistic>don't have an actual response but need to really get in the last word>better call them autistic
>>192368035>In fact that is about the worst advice you can give someone.Nice strawman, monkeybrain. It's not a brawl if both of you are capable of carefully maintaining your angle towards the enemy - that's what distinguishes it as a sub-meta.
>>192366116>They have the most HP, germans have the most armor.This is entirely not true.British BBs have way thicker armor and extremely low citadels, they can't be cit from anything, plunging fire or close range broadside. They're the most tanking BBs in the game right now except maybe the GK with the extra thick bow armor.You're right about them not benefiting from closing in though, they don't have great secondaries like the german ships so there's no reason to do so.
>>192370580Also they're accurate enough to land worthwhile HE salvoes without closing in.
>>192370894Yes, that coupled with the fact that they have great concealment, it's better to stay right around 12-13km to both stay away from the torps and make use of the stealth.
>>192353389So new smoke screen mechanism in 0.6.12 will soon become a thing.
>>192364021To add to what that other anon said,Royal NavyUS NavyImperial Japanese NavyKairserliche/KriegsmarineVoenno-Morskoy FlotI don't know what the French navy is called.
>>192373646I think it's the Marine Nationale
>>192373646France is Marine NationaleItaly is Regia Marina
>>192343050>>192343212Lastly there were also plans to turn the Seaplane tender Commandante Teste into an Escort Carrier but this was dropped as costing too much
>>192375583This thing or Kaga, which has a taller hull?
>>192376369Why does Kaga look like such a shoddy conversion? None of the converted carriers form other countries look that bad. The Lexingtons actually look like proper carriers.
>>192377589I guess the five 410mm turrets being removed (which weighted a shit ton) resulting in the hull sitting a hell lot higher than the designed waterline. It was also one of the earlier conversions so they tried dumbshits like triple flight decks which messed up the design even further.
>>192376369The Kaga was about 140m above the waterline IIRC and the Teste is about 120m above the w/l so while TALL, the Kaga is still 20 metres TALLER
>>192304673>>192304754>>192343050>>192343212So in total:2 Built/Nearly complete French CVs4 LL CVs2 Proposed CV conversions5 C V designsNot as good as what the USN, RN and IJN have but probably the fourth 'best' carrier fleet in the game in terms of real and actually built carriers (assuming we ever get more carriers ever....)
>two carriers on each team>kaga and saipan on theirs>ranger and hiryu on ours
>>192384174>inevitably die to skycancer>saipan gloats about how high skill he is>tells us to git gud
>>192384373>CVnts telling other ships to git gud>AA is RNG and stats basedEvery time.
>>192382620If you consider that good enough, then you might just as well go and make German and Italian CV trees.Germany has one built but not finished plus a shit ton of conversions in various stages of completeness, and three or four blueprint-stage designs.Italy is in pretty much the same situation.On the other hand, German cruisers showed us the WG will go full-on skret dokument and just make some shit up when it suits them.The designs for Hindenburg and Roon appear hilarious and sad at the same time when you look at French or Soviet cruisers.
I made 10k credits off this okhotnik over 3 days without premium.not bad for a t5 destroyer. and certainly a lot more fun than the only other premium I had in the krasny.
>>19238598610m, I mean.
>>192386173fuckin nice lad
>be Myogi>max range harass enemy fleet>eventually be chased by a New York basically aiming his broadside at me>aim backside towards it because more turrets/harder silhouette (on Myogi anyway)>load AP since he's exposing full broadside>...>I put round after round into him without a single citadel and negligible damage >New York continues to expose his full broadside and eventually burns me downI know I'm new to this game and could be missing something but I'm getting real sick of "situations where it should work, in theory, but does jack shit in reality".
>>192386326You're getting fucked by shit botes at low tiers. You'd have fucked him up in KONGODESS I bet.
>>192386326>Myogi>shooting at max range>with only 4 guns >citting anythingIt's hard to do that in a Yamato let alone a t4 shitfest known as the Myogi.
Are american destroyers still the knife fight kings? I see german and pan-asia DDs are a thing now. What's the difference between pan asia and american DD? They look the same
>>192389398Chink ships have radar and torps that pass through DDs.
>>192389491>Chink ships have radarThat sounds pretty busted>Torps that pass through DDsWhat do you mean pass through?
>>192389534They literally pass through, deep water torps that can't hit anything unless the hull is deep enough in the water.
>>192389636>Pan asia boats get the best gimmicksAre there any downsides? They sound like upgraded versions of american ones
>>192389706>Are there any downsides?Obviously you can't torp anything but BBs, but those torps have a shorter detection range to compensate.I'm not sure if any cruisers in the game has longer radar range that its own detection range, but this will be the main gimmick of the line.
>>192390142So you can't torp cruisers either?
>>192389706They can't hit DDs with torps, that's it, but it's easier to hit everything else. WG is still fucking around with the consumables and right now radar is in the same slot as smoke but their smoke is also retarded and you can chain them nonstop or something?
>>192390214Actually I'm not sure, last time I checked they could hit CLs but not CAs, don't know if they changed that.
>>192390392They simplified it so deep water torps just hit everything except DDs, because different depths would be too confusings))))))))))
Asian Destroyers:>2: V-25 derivative>3: R-class >4: Minekaze class>5: Paper ship (British origin)>6: Gnevney-class>7: N-class (postwar config)>8: Benson-class derivative>9: Fletcher-class derivative>10: Gearing-class derivativeIn terms of nationality, these are an eclectic mix of Chinese, Korean, Taiwanese and Indonesian. Pre-war designs are either one-offs or paper ships. The tier 5 paper ship was designed in '29, while tier 6 and everything after are post-war surplus sales. If I had to guess, performance on these ships will probably be close to their origin classes. I mean, the tier 8 is literally a four-gun Benson.Notably, the tier 7 has six 120mm guns in three twin turrets.
>>192390392>last time I checked they could hit CLs but not CAsOther way around.
>>192386573>>192386614I suppose,thanks for the cute Myogi tho~
>>192391057You're welcome senpai. Pick up Kongo's engine upgrade as soon as you can, she's the first fast battleship in the game.
>>192391163You mean battlecruiser, Myogi is a battlecruiser too.
>>192391009tier 7 looks like the only fun ship in the entire line
>>192391548The whole line is probably going to suck until you hit tier 6, and then your overpowered gimmicks kick in and you start shitting all over the fun.
>it's another "your team scatters and/or welps themselves, other team hoovers them up with no losses for an easy win" episode
>get in scharnhorst>put on DEUTSCHLAND UBER ALLES>drive directly into the middle of the enemy fleet>???>profit
>>192398538ahaha its fucking nothing
>>192398538You want booze or bleach senpai?
>>192398843I'll take a cawfee~Honestly not that bad I've only been rollin' for Supercrates for 4 days lol
>>192399839Here you go senpai.
>>192400185hotI fear I'll be stroking my main gun to botes any day now...
>>192400558The best part of shipsluts is that no matter what your tastes are, there's probably a bote for it.
Anti-lewd filter for this game when?Collision filter?
>>192358801Only Akizuki (and maybe Tachibana as well as some other obscure meme ships) needs IFHE to reliably damage other DDs. Other ships benefit far less from it.>>192401834You do it. I made this one.
>>192400925>mfwI'm asking for a friend, of course, but how would one find such content?
What's the most scrub-friendly cruiser line?
>Everyone moved to WoWP>All alone in Botes
>>192404367>Playing World of dead planes. The game is dead, DEAD.