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>Everything EO (References, Music, Art Books, etc.)
https://pastebin.com/cdfQmt11

>EOV
http://atlus.com/etrian5/
http://sq-atlus.jp/sq5/

>EMD2
http://sq-atlus.jp/sfd2/

EOV releases October 17th for NA (Digital for EU), November 3rd for EU.

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>>192078128
Thanks so much. This helps a lot. It seems I need to read up on skills before I fully invest.
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>>192079134
As a follow up on your team comp, the Warlock isn't doing anything particularly noteworthy on your team beyond supplying a source of elemental damage, and Shamans more or less have that covered with their elemental prayers.

Your team is actually tanky enough that a Botanist is a decent fit for you. It's a shame that there aren't any good backline physical DPS (besides Hawk Rover), because I think that might be a better fit for your team.
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So what are your top 5 battle themes, eog?

for me, it's
1. calling that detestable name
2. storm
3. life and death struggle
4. first campaign (eo2u)
5. their own brand of justice
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Do we have any idea why the QR codes dont work yet?

NA demo to NA demo > nothing

NA demo to NA game > nothing

etc
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Snuggle bunny
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>>192080307
I like dyed in scarlet, pretty good for a regular boss theme
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>>192080780
EU demo to EU demo worked for me.
And I haven't heard much trouble from other people except for the last thread.
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>>192080000
Checked.

I really liked the Warlock's art but exchanging it for something else completely different would be nice. I kinda liked the Rover but didn't have space for it so I ditched it in favor of the WL. But do you think it would be better to put it back in?

I'm a bit apprehensive on putting both a Shaman and a Botanist in the same team. Wouldn't their healing skills overwhelm the party with too much HP and too less DPS?
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>>192080902
Made for rape
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>>192081048
>implying jenetta isn't ready whenever wherever for whatever
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>>192080995
You could either go with punisher shaman and healer botanist or herald shaman and smoke botanist. There's a lot of flexibility in team composition with second name branches.
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>>192081126
How much extra does she charge for some late night 'service'?
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Is there a beginner guide/tips for EOV? This is my first EO games but i've been playing a lot of Fatlus rpg lately
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>>192081527
FIVE BUNNIES
TWENTY SWORDS
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I've done it.
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>>192081613
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>>192081527
If it's your first time, try to keep your party balanced.
Have at least one healer and tank, the rest can be a mix of support (statuses, buffs/debuffs) and attackers.
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>>192080995
I was proposing Dragoon/Masurao/Pugi // Rover/Shaman.

Rover and Shaman are both decent healers, so together you should have plenty. Swapping the Warlock for the Rover gives you another physical damage dealer as well as a physical defense debuff, which increases the overall damage output of your team.
You're lacking a little on elemental damage variety, but all together (assuming Cannon Dragoon, 1Kat and Combo Pugi) you've got access to Thunderfist, Bolt Slash and Buster Cannon, as well as the elemental prayers and Dance Oracle.

Cons: mediocre AoE.
Pros: just about every defensive option you could wish for, including binds and status effects. Many significant damage buffs, including Overexertion, Ruinous Prayer, Armour Pierce, High Ground and Target Arrow. Shit loads of single target damage. Easy dungeoneering due to having four characters with a passable basic attack, and consistent passive healing through the Rover.
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>>192081640
Congratulations, anon!
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>>192081705
Is Basic mode challenging enough for first timer or should I go Advanced. I want a little challenge
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>>192081640
Gratz, anon.
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>>192081948
You can always change difficulty why you are in town.
I'd still recommend Advanced - and don't get discouraged if you struggle in the beginning. The very early game is always pretty hard since you have no equipment and barely any skills.
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can someone show me to the etriam general i got some images to post
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>>192082108
We should merge with them.
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Which race changed classes are viable?
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>>192082271
potato masurao, lunarian dragoon, earthlain shaman
really the only one that actually matters is making a celestrian a smoke botanist because potato luck is fucking shiiiiiiiiiit
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>>192081825
>>192081992
Thank you anons, it was a wonderful journey. I'll be starting Etrian II tomorrow
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>>192082271
Earthlain is not great to reclass into anything outside their base classes.
Maybe 1-kat Masurao if you are ok with lower damage for more sturdiness or Smoke Botanist if you really don't care about healing or damage and only want to inflict ailments.

Therian are the physical damage/speed min-max class. So they work as Impact Pugilists (sacrificing HP to punch), any Fencers and if you are crazy Cannon Dragoons.

Celestrian are the magical damage dealers with the second best LUC. Smoke Botanist and Punisher Shamans can make use of that.
But they are slow as balls so keep that in mind if you try to use them as healers.

Brouni are rather sturdy healers. Shield Dragoon can work with their large TP pool and Deathguard Reaper if you want them to be full supporters. In the Reapers case you should probably not run them from the beginning since Brounis have terrible STR and LUC.
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>>192081276
Cool. I just read about the legendary name thingy and it sounds like it could add a little bit more flexibility in terms of party composition.

I'm a bit worried about the lack of AoE though. Or should I not worry about it since it's not needed? How bad would it be if I kept the Warlock in in the long term?
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>>192082240
We should marry /smtg/ again.
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>>192082271
Earthlain have the highest luck, highest health, highest vitality and the second highest strength and speed. Use them if you want to be a tanky physical class that does high (but not min/max) damage or wants to inflict status ailments and binds. They make good Dragoons, dodge fencers (if you're using Optic Thrust, otherwise Therians outclass them), Harbingers, combo Pugilists and 1Kat Masurao.

Everything else that >>192082834 said is pretty much on the money. It should be noted that the offensive Union Skills of the Therians aren't nearly as useful as the defensive Union Skills of the Earthlain or Brounis, and Celestrian's Chain Blast is the best offensive Union Skill.
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>>192082876
Masurao has decent options for crowd control; you either have foot sweep or reflower bonuses. Hell Slash follows up on every row attack but using that in regular encounters is nigh suicidal.

AoE is definitely something you should consider when making your team though, a lot of the encounters in V can get really nasty, and a couple bosses including the superboss rely on additions a fair bit.
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>>192082271
Therian Fencer.
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>>192083241
We were young and naive.
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Guaranteed:
A shitty Mobage hollowing out the carcass of the EO franchise.

Likely:
EO3U with EOIV-like mini-labyrinths on various islands.

A spiritual successor dungeon crawler for Switch or Vita with similar art style and mechanics, but which ditches the map-drawing, Yggdrasil, and other emblematic features of the series.

Unlikely:
Etrian Odyssey Maker for 3DS where you can make and share (via the internet, and QR codes) your own labytinths.

NEVER EVER
An EO game for the WiiU
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>>192083512
>Etrian Odyssey Maker for 3DS where you can make and share (via the internet, and QR codes) your own labytinths.
Nice idea in theory, terrible in practice because you guys would make the most tedious, pitfalls everywhere, mandatory walking on damage tiles, FOE puzzles on every floor labyrinths.
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>>192083945
>tedious, pitfalls everywhere, mandatory walking on damage tiles, FOE puzzles on every floor labyrinths.
sounds like 2U except for the pitfalls
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>>192084101
the pitfalls really will be for the bats this time
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>>192083512
>A shitty Mobage
didn''t one already exist or was that my imagination
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>>192084353
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgT3PnfEMPI
>mfw EO mobile has a better ost than V
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When you find out who the TRUE best housewife is in EOV.

Ramus cooks for you more often than Jenetta smiles
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>>192084651
Sounds pretty shit desu
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My normal retailer wount take in EOV, so I was thinking of buying it online, but where would the optimal place to do so in Europe?
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I miss the fuzzballs.
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>>192085476
Amazon?
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>>192085568
This makes me moist.
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>>192085628
It's really rare but it's in the game.
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>nobody's posting their GCards
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>>192085676
I won't burn my EU demo activation just for that.
A few more days and the game is finally out.
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>>192085561
Ok? I'll get it from there then, just co.uk. I thought the price was a bit wierd. I never buy games online.
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>>192083512
>An EO game for the WiiU
The WiiU is an outdated console. It's been superseded.
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>>192086035
But it was perfect for EO.
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>>192086246
I don't think non-EO fans would take kindly to the battle animations and all that. I guess the labirynths and monsters would be pretty, but the rest would only really be static drawings.
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>>192083945
Actually this would be pretty sweet for the hardcore fans who want more challenge.

But yeah it's "unlikely" = not gonna happen.
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>>192086384
>non-EO fans
>playing EO
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>>192087138
That's a cute smile.
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>>192087138
she's a real qt, I wish her in-game portraits were better
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So is an Elemancer Warlock good? I only have one just for targeting elemental weaknesses, is there a better choice?
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>EOV
>all these new customization options
Fuck I actually feel overwhelmed. I'm afraid of picking something safe and boring but this shit is too much for me
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>>192087443
In the last thread people seemed to agree that warlocks kinda mediocre in general and that if you just want some ele coverage Shaman is probably an equally valid choice
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What classes are worth making multiple characters of, so I could potentially use different second names?
Also, how does the exp share accessory work? Is it half exp active party members get for every single reserve member? Or is it half exp per battle divided among all reserve members?
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>>192087513
You can always switch your team out at level 20 when you get the level up things
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>>192087513
>want to pick something safe and boring in EOV, because the game is sorta returning to the series roots
>end up with a gimmicky party anyway
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>>192087443
It's ok but very skill point and TP hungry.
Eventually you want to use a Chant (with Quick Chant) every turn to get some good damage numbers but that is costly.
Also an Elemenancer wants another In-based attacker for a 50% damage bonus with Common Magic. If you have none just going Omnimancer for some more support and even more weaknesses to hit might be a good idea.
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>>192087443
Warlocks suffer from the fact that they are insanely skill point hungry. When everything is maxed out toward the end of the game, their damage output is about as high as you can get without using a character that explicitly requires team support, e.g. 4Kat, Impact Pugi, Chain Fencer.
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>>192087513
Fencer | Masurao | Dragoon
Warlock | Botanist

Default portraits.

No customisation.

Final destination.
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>>192087621
>want to play anything but ailments
>harbinger/pug/smoke/warlock/rover
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>>192087549
if you wear the memory conch on a unit and he survives at the end of battle, each guild member gets 10% of the battle's exp (it isn't split, so say the battle is 1000 exp, each member gets 100.)

If you want to stack classes, the most obvious are necros, dragoons, fencers, and rovers. but each second name is almost a separate class.
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>>192087549
>Also, how does the exp share accessory work?
Give it to one of your active party members.
Everyone at home gets 10% battle XP. In a normal party you have five members that get 20% battle XP each - so everyone at home gets half of what a normal party gets.
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>>192087621
>Want to pick a team comp with a Botanist and a Dragoon for my first playthrough, since I usually abandon traditional tanks and healers in subsequent playthroughs
>Literally none of the team comps I want to run like having a Dragoon on them, and Botanist is almost always outclassed by Shaman or Rover
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>>192087740
>Literally none of the team comps I want to run like having a Dragoon on them
Are you referring to the fact Dragoon has a summon? You can just use one as a traditional protector.
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>>192087732
>>192087709
I see. Then I should try and recruit as many new characters I can possibly want as soon as I get the accessory, so I wouldn't have to do extra grinding later.
I don't wanna stack same classes in the party though. I just want to have an alternative second name for some of the classes I use, in case I won't be satisfied with my choice.
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>>192087740
Botanist is the best Medic in the entire series.
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>>192087549
>What classes are worth making multiple characters of, so I could potentially use different second names?
Dodge Fencer is one of very few classes that can activate multiple Chains in one turn with a stab attack and Sylphid.
Both classes also work completely different.

Omnimancer skills are faster than the big Elemancer skills so they can activate Common Magic.
Elemancer can hit fire/ice/volt weaknesses for Alter.

Any Shaman can "reload" buffs for a Punisher Shaman so you don't rely on Ancient Memory.

Necros work together if one generates Wraiths for the other to explode.
Also the Grave + Wraith Dance double Evoker combo.

Barrage Pugilist and Impact Pugilist work basically completely different.

Shield Dragoon can keep the party safe while Cannon Dragoon sets up Buster Cannon.

>>192087881
In this case just make five of every race to reclass later into whatever you want.
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Better than the binderr/medic in 4?
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>>192087740
In case you want some suggestions; my team comp is:
>Pug / 4kat Masu / Shield Dragoon
>Herb Botanist / Ailment Necromancer

Dragoon's job is to protect 4kat. Botanist's job to is to heal the Dragoon. 4kat kills everything. Pretty dedicated party roles for those three. Pug and Necro are more flexible in their roles.
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is level 58 too high for cradle guardian
logre is only 48
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>>192088491

yes
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>>192088491
Yes. That is the level I usually defeat the endboss of the story and you have a whole stratum before you.

Usually you don't need to grind in EOIV.
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>>192088206

Yes.
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>>192088206
>Arcanist/Medic is debuffer with sufficient healing.
>Botanist is healer with sufficient debuffing.
Am I right?
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>>192080307
Hoist the Sword never ceases to make my nipples hard.
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>>192088416
I'm trying to avoid using a Sanzu comp until my second playthrough as well.

I mean, it's a good sign that there are no bland and boring set ups, but I still feel like maybe I'm missing a standard experience.
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Drag / Mas / Pug
Nec / Herb

Will this work decently? Should I keep a stock of elemental jars avaliable at all times?
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>>192089930
Should work fine. You'll theoretically have full elemental coverage with Pug and (Spirit) Necro. The latter are really shit at the beginning though.
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>>192089930
It's literally eight posts above you as an example of a very solid if generic team, so yes.
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I missed the .cia dump from the other thread
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>>192081640
nice immunize
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My party is:
Phantom Fencer / Master Masurao / Barrage Puglist
Elemancer Warlock / Merciful Healer

Would it be better to switch out the Warlock for a Shaman? That way I could get more defensive buffs and still get elemental attacks? Which Shaman 2nd name would be best for this party?
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>>192083107
No, kys, we have nothing in common with Shit Meme Trash
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Any good EOU2 party that doesn't have Beast? Is Protector any good?
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>>192086246
No, it's not, fuck off with that shitty "let's put a series designed for portables on non-portable because some basement dwellers want it" meme
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>>192091561
Do you like to bing bing wahoo with your etrians outside?
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>>192091273
You're not using a Chain Fencer so you won't get much use out of the elemental buffs but your Warlock kind of sticks out if you aren't use a Chain Fencer. Amplifier doesn't synergize with anyone and you are stacking physical buffs/debuffs.

A necromancer spamming wraith cry and poison bomb might be better

If you swap out for a shaman is recommend the type A so you can get memories which lets you spam dance Oracle but your want to be a Chain Fencer. You have a dedicated healer so you don't need a type b Shaman
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>>192091761
Yes? I'm not an autist and i cannot spend my whole day at home.
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>>192087885
I doubt it beats the Medic in the first EO.
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How does a Phantom Fencer's Ray of Light work if your only equipping a weapon?
Does the defence increase still do anything or do you need to have armour on for it do do much?
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>>192091367
No one said it needs to be a happy marriage.
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>>192088016
I don't want to reclass anyone, because I want to keep the portraits. At least not yet.
And I was thinking more about Reaper and/or Necro. I'm not 100% sure which specialization to go with them, so I thought maybe I could make back up ones with a different second name.

I feel like my party has enough support skills divided among all characters, but they lack enough raw damage. So I was thinking of making the Necro a Broker and the Reaper a Deathbringer. But I've heard people say Reaper's other spec is better.
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>>192091520
Protector is great, their Walls can completely negate the big fuck-off elemental blasts many bosses love throwing around.

War Magus, Highlander (DLC) and Landsknecht are solid front line characters that will be really sturdy with Front Guard.
Dark Hunter and Ronin also survives rather well with it.
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>>192091520
Beast is probably the best tank in the series, but protector is almost as good.
If you want to fully complete the game you're essentially required to have one of the two, though. That's EO2U for you.
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>>192092275
You do it for the aggro since if you use Lure you aren't generating any aggro through the skill. Normally you can grab aggro with deft thrust. A good combo is to use Taunt on the Fencer with a Dragoon
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>>192092406
>>192092546
thank
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>>192092372
I reaallly tried to make a deathbringer work but the damage is just so sublet compared a to all the other damage cores and you always need a status ailment to land your attacks.

Deathguard on the otherhand can pretty much fit into any party. Need more binds to land? Shriveling Miasma. Want an AOE defense debuff for both stats? more miasma. Need an AOE heal that removes all ailments? Etc

Hell I'm pretty sure the accuracy Miasma might evennbe useful if you have a dodge Fencer with phantom swords
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>>192092767
I'm running Shield Dragoon, Bind Pugilist and Herald Shaman.
I also really want to use Necro and Reaper in my party, because to me they seem like the two most prominent flagship classes of the game, others being just renamed old classes.
I was gonna use Broker Necro to keep everything poisoned, blast shit with almighty damage, and cheese with 9999 HP ghosts.
And Reaper with Shriveling Miasma to help land those binds and poison. But any Reaper has access to it, so I thought maybe I should make him a Deathbringer to help actually doing some damage.
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>>192093129
If you're gonna go full cheese with zombie powder your dragoon might be better off as a Buster dragoon. I mean you have the Pugilist and Shaman already. Your shield dragoon won't be using any bunkers and fierce shield is better than anything else when your ghosts can't die
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>>192093568
Doesn't the gun Dragoon need the summon slots to set up their artillery thingies?
Also, obviously I can't always have an unlimited supply of 9999 HP ghosts, it's sort of a final measure, if I feel my DPS isn't sufficient without it.
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>>192093753
Decoy bunkers or whatever they translated pillboxes to aren't worth the time investment for a Buster dragoon. They just bomb prep buster cannonnnn
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>>192092275
Defence is now straight up VIT + armor def and magical defence is WIS + armor mdef.
So even if the later ones are 0 you still have a baseline - ist's just not very impressive...
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>>192093753
Yeah, bunkers are only really needed to be in play to cast the defense up skill
And drawing fire away from your party is always nice
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>>192094083
>>192093753
Keep in mind that charging buster cannons is very powerful, but far from the only thing a cannon dragoon does.
I'm of the opinion that unless you have a specific reason to be going shield, a cannon dragoon should be your default choice. They're still very strong defensively in a game that sorely lacks variety in defensive classes, and they also provide acceptable damage and support.
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>>192095195
If your summon line is otherwise empty build turrets (even passively sometimes) and laugh when bosses waste a line based attack only to get countered three times.
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>>192095195
I'm going Shield instead of Cannon Dragoon just because of Counter Guard, which is the only reliable way a Dragoon can contribute to a chain-focused party.
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I'm new at this. What am I doing wrong here ?
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>>192095708
Dunno. Never used citra. Ask in /hbg/ also desu senpai
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Did I read the last thread wrong, or was there one anon who though pirating EOV somehow hurt atlus? Did he really think this general would not be autist enough not to buy physical copies just to go with their collection?
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>>192095634
Yeah, that's a good reason.
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Has anyone tried transferring save from JP version?
It's crashing the game when I try to inject my save.
I'm a bit bummed out since it worked for literally every game I tried in the past.
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If you're not good enough, get good
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>>192097009
If you can understand japanese why not just keep playing it. No one posts guild cards anyway
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How many points do I need to put into Predict until it gets to the point where my Fencer will actually reliably dodge things?
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>>192097207
I have a tradition of pirating Atlus games on release and then moving my save to a physical copy once the localization comes out.
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>>192097450
You don't. Predict is just there to have your Dodge Fencer use something until they get to the second name. But even before that, you better off just not investing into Predict more points than necessary.
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>>192097556
lol Why didn't you order a japanese copy, then?
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>>192097635
With just one point, it isn't even reliably dodging the first hit that comes its way. Am I just getting insanely unlucky?
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>>192097708
Fug, I didn't read properly
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>>192097450
Predict is fucking terrible, only good for nullifying a single powerfull attacks that target one unit, every time yoi dodge something you get an insane penalty in dodging while keeping the defense drop, basically using predict during normal encounters will kill you 100% of the time. It works against early game FOEs, and that's it. Putting more than 3 on it in order to unlock wind courtain is a waste (and wind courtain is another situational skill)
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>>192097806
Gotta raise that AGI and LUC boyo. At level 1 you should be dodging most of time the first hit. Focus on getting that juicy optic strike first.
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>>192097935
Right, I'm familiar with all of this.
What I'm is that even against the Venipedes and Owl Beasts, Predict does not reliably dodge even once. I get a huge aggro bonus and a defense drop, but I don't evade anything.

So, basically, the skill is entirely a piece of shit?
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>>192096078
People falseflag about it for every game that gets leaked, just forget it
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>needed to defend for 50 turns against weak enemies to build up the Force bar ahead of Chimæra, because it fills so slowly that by the time I'd have battled enough enemies to fill it to even 50% normally I'd already be completely spent on TP
>no good ways to level the gathering squad, so it's almost more efficient for my main party to warp to 5F and fight my way back down without anyone dying so I can sell the loot won along the way (just to keep up with the fees for the inn, revives, and Warp Wires)
At least I defeated Chimæra now and even got the conditional drop, so I won't be having money problems for a while.
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>>192098398
Iirc if you have lower agi than the guy trting to hit you there's an there's an enormous penalty to evasion so it's not till later when you're higher level and can stack ago that it'll be more reliable but instead you would just use lightweight and deft thrust
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>>192081640

Great feat, anon. Now relax and go fap to some Shilleka.
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Why do people still play EO2?
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>>192096078
Stop giving yous to shit quality troles
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>>192098528
>needing boost against chimera with a fucking hexer
You revenge it to death in like 3 turns
>>192099584
A combination of being a hipster and being retarded
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>>192099584
I started with EOIII two months ago, and then beat EOIV afterwards. I didn't like the feel of the 3D battles and the menus felt more sluggish to me, so I figured I should give another one of the DS games a shot. I tried EO1 but it really felt, looked, and played way too antiquated.
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>>192100263
>You revenge it to death in like 3 turns
I put all my points so far into Poison so I didn't have Revenge yet.
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>>192099584
It's different enough from the Untold version that it's worth a look sometimes.
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So, if I use memory conch, the non-active guys get xp, but the active guys still receive full xp from battle?
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>>192101140
Yes. It generates XP.
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>>192101193
Great, thanks. So there's no reason not to create a bunch of extra people and leave them there in case I need to change the party.
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So my Team consists of FRONT Dragoon / Harbinger / Pugilist BACK Rover / Herbalist.

Up until now I could easily handle everything including the FOE's. But the golem boss is giving me a bit of trouble. My party doesn't have a lot of aoe attacks in it department and not enough single target damage to instakill a minion and damage the main body. Also it seems like the boss is invulnerable to both ailments and binds which my party focuses on or I am just fucking unlucky. Any tips? I am obviously already fightning against 2 mobs only.
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>>192100494
Your own loss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqTgIuzmfxw
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>>192101441
replace harbinger with something that actually does damage
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>>192101441
The small golems transfer all ailments they have on the big one when they fuse.
So get your Paralysis Scythe ready, spam the bird AE and bind them - if you are lucky they will not get to use their turn to use (so you can wail on them longer and maybe kill them) if you are unlucky at least the big golem is now ailed and bound.
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>>192101441
Just keep attacking the main body. Even I managed to beat it that way
Never give up, never stop
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>>192101441
Also, it's weak to bash attacks
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>>192101701
>>192101742
>>192102258
>>192102394
Thanks guys will try it again now after the last one was pretty close.
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>there's an undub already
Time to delete my demo
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>>192098528
I don't remember being this strapped for cash in eo2
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>>192102581
I went in without knowing anything with a worse team than you and barely got out alive first try. Basically, send the ailments and bind dudes to inflict something on the small guys, damage dudes on the big guy, smash that defend button if the golem manages to get full, and remember to use pillars to reduce renforcements from 6 to 2 at a time. Also remember that after you kill the golem you have to kill the rest of the smallies.
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>>192101441
>Also it seems like the boss is invulnerable to both ailments and binds
this is my biggest gripe with EO. to be honest status effects are fucking worthless in every JRPG I've ever played, but EO is the absolute worst offender. never before in my life have i seen a level 30 character with a maxed out skill in a status effect FAIL on a level 1 enemy. ONLY does that happen in EO.
it's not cool, it's not hard, it's not based RNG, it's just straight bullshit. and i can't believe they even put classes in the game that do nothing but status effects when they never work, and people like you actually use them.
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>>192104782
What games have you been playing?
Ailments and binds have always been useful at the very least and in many titles they are simply great.

Most bosses are not immune to anything and the one is question is only immune to everything because you are supposed to get those things on it in a different way.
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How else can I support a 4kt, besides having a dragoon using divide guard?
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>>192104782
>trying to ail an enemy with something it's immune to
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>>192105251
Fencer dodge tank, but you'll die to AOE moves
Same goes for necromancer shield skill
just use 1kat crits
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>>192105251
Damage up, defense down and shut down your foes
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>>192105401
>die to aoe skills

Yeah, I've been noticing that

well, too late
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I never look at guides and shit. But 4katanas is a skill or I can actually equip 4 katanas?
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>>192105251
Chain Blast to (probably) fully bind everything (needs Union gauges).
Fierce Shield of the Necromancer.
Dodge Fencer, maybe.
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>>192105558
You equip them. No armor allowed
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>>192104782
I absolutely agree with you on that stuff being useless in most jrpgs but EO is the one series where those things are absolutely incredible and can easily carry you the entire game. In Eo 4 and 2U you could easily wipe every single random encounter up to the final stratum with poison from the hexer/Arcanist.
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>>192101701
*Heavy voice* NO!
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>>192104120
>undub
You guys told me it was impossible
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>>192105631
>arcanist
>not nightseeker
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Speaking of undubs. Is there a separate version that uses Luma game patching, or only pre-patched cia?
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>>192106143
Then enjoy your no damage
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Why goddamn fucking wraiths ALWAYS attack the sleeping target, every single fucking time do you want me you explode you so hard you fucking ectoplasm piece of shit
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>>192106393
Luma patching is shit
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Gun Mount works even if the animation/sound effect doesn't play, right?
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>>192106607
Worked just fine for the demo. I'd like changes to the game files not to be permanent, give the option.
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I swear to FUCK if I see ONE more post along the lines of

"here's my team, please critique and tell me what I should do with it heehee"

I'm going to fucking KILL myself. Holy fuck.

What happened to just experimenting? What happened to testing things out yourself, or thinking things through, or just having fun with a cool team you made? Why do you need validation from a community of autists before you can start playing with your toy?

If it was just one or two people then fine but no like every ten or so posts there's another asshole. fuck.
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>>192106718
>I'm going to fucking KILL myself

Oh, no! Please don't do that!
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>>192106631
U wot?
Gun mount works every other turn after you guard. You can't guard just once, and then spam gun mount.
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>>192101380
Nope, fill all those slots senpai
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>>192106804
I think he means that when you use gun mount, the animation of the shield skill doesn't play, so he's unsure if it still works
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So there are like two specializations if I understand correctly. Dragoons have shield and bunker. Does the bunker turn the dragoon more into a dps class with bunkers to deal with hurt? Going to include a masa, dunno if I'll go 4swords, but bunkers are so tempting. But can't babysit then
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>>192106718
I agree, but you have autism
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>>192106718
You don't have the balls for that. Empty threats!
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>>192106972
Yeah, exactly this.
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>>192106718
I was saying this the other day and people were telling me things like people play differently and the threads would be dead and stuff.
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Anything crucial I should know when starting EOV?
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>>192105558
It's a passive. The first point allows you to equip katanas in all armor slots.
Armor now does something so you die to a breeze without it - especially Therians.
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>>192107289
Carry two ariadne threads and have fun
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>>192107289
You should watch the F. O. E song on YouTube. Maybe check out early EO minor memes, like how scary deers are.
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>>192107289
Carry three ariadne threads when you start exploring locked doors
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>>192107289
Don't bother with shamans at start and with harbingers at all
>>192107408
>two
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>>192106718
>people play games differently than me
>i'm going to kill myself about it
You seem like a very reasonable person, anon.

Anyways
Harbinger/Dragoon/Harbinger
Necro/Necro

Would the maximum edge combo even work?
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>>192107289
Always carry four ariadne threads.
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>>192106996
Dragoons have shield and cannon.
The specialisation only unlocks after the second stratum.

Bunkers are an option for both specs; Cannon Dragoon even has turrets that have less aggro and lower defence (I think) but counter when they get attacked.
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>>192107289
Never neglect to pack 5 ariadne threads when exploring.
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>>192107289
carry about 60 ariadne threads
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>>192107289
Always bring 60 ariadne threads at all times
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>>192106718
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>>192107289
The early Union skills are more useful utility than massive "Oh, hit!" buttons. So you can freely use Mana Heal to regain TP and prolong your exploration.
Also only the one starting the Union skill needs a full gauge - everyone else can be depleted and the skill will be just as strong.
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>>192107289
Don't forget to have at least one (1) onahole in your guild.
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How can you even PERFECT putting a goddamn fried egg on the bread, literally everyone can do that, fuck japs and their food fetishes
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can someone explain every single mechanic in EOV to me? I have legit aspergers and it's killing me that we haven't datamined the fuck out of it and we don't know everything
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>>192107881
read the wiki
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>>192107881
Welcome to Etriam Odyssey, where the formulas are made up and the numbers don't matter!
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>>192107289
Put a skill point into Sorting Skill for at least two of your party members, so you can always have at least 70 Ariadne Threads at all times.
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>>192108102
>not having 5 earthlains for 85 ariadne threads
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>>192107869
You don't understand Anon. Your guild has been training their respective classes since they were born. They don't know how to use fire beyond destroying something, and can't discern edible foods from FOEs. It's a miracle they understand the concept of currency at all even.
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>>192107869
>he has never seen someone put an egg on bread perfectly
I'm sorry for your loss, anon.

If you had ever seen it you would know...
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>>192107637
Cheers, haven't read up on anything, beisdes bits and pieces from here and v. And the demo.
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>>192108217
>have to fight FOE instead of eating it alive
>>192108293
go away Ramus
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Wew, therians use straight swords like katanas. Take note
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>tfw amazon won't send my copy of the game until november 15th

Good thing I have CFW.
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>>192107476
>he doesn't know about the updated squirrels
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I'm not impressed by my hugbox at all. I have like 80 Luc and Clinch still misses way too often.
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This english dub is killing me. Why Atlus, why
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>There are people in this thread, right now, that don't carry around two (2) Ariadne Threads at all times
You bring two so that if you look at your inventory and only see one, you'll remember to restock. If you only carry one, forgetting to restock once means you're fucked. Don't be a dipshit, always carry two.
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How bad is frontline scythe botanist early? This shit feels like a deadweight sometimes

My team is F/M R/S/B

>>192109317
>not playing the undub
shiggy
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>>192107869
I'm pretty impressed to be honest.
They fry an egg on a campfire without any utensils or fat.
And they they bake a bread with a hand full of wheat.
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>>192109558
>Scythe Botanist
???
Why is your Botanist attacking in the first place?
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>>192109550
I always carry two, and replacing the one I just used is the first thing I do after returning to town.
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>>192109230
Black Mist to double the chances.
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>>192109558
Just give it a bow for chip damage and fencer chase proccing and better speed.
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>>192109558
Shaman and Rover can easily keep a party healed, there's no need for a Botanist in your party at all.
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>>192109317
I like some of it but I'm disappointed in the voice selection for guildies and that shopkeep can shut his fucking mouth god damn
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Why would they give the race with shitty luck a class dedicated to inflicting status
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>>192109558
They have no skills for scythes and unless you go Earthlain for ailment chance and nothing else they have no STR either.

Put them into the back line and either give them a bow or the Feather Staff from the second FOE that has an INT-based fire skill if you upgrade it once.
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How lenient is EOV class comp wise?
Am I gonna be fucked if I don't have particular classes or can I complete the entire game with nigh on anything that makes some semblance of sense?

Haven't really looked at any info since I wanted to go in mostly blind.
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Bladebunni got a 4swords spec, but what's the thing with the other spec?
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>>192109850
They can also just use the smokes as debuffs.
Deathbringer Harbinger has passives that increase their damage and defence if they inflict ailments.
Between Shriveling Miasma and a Smoke debuff they can land ailment even on bosses reliably.
And the low Brouni LUC prevents them from accidently inflicting the ailment themselves.
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>>192109934
1 katana, skills can crit, heavy armor.

>>192109874
You are pretty free in your party creation.
There are multiple ways to heal and for defenses.
If your party looks like it makes sense, it will very likely work.
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>gunmount doesn't work with divide guard

jackasses
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>>192109735
I'm going full birb rover and have no heals on shaman so far
I'm also probably going 4kat on M

>>192109854
Sounds good
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>>192110264
I am also going bird rover as my party seriously lacks damage. But I don't really know what to skill yet. At the moment it seems like the marking shot which applies the defense debuff is the best option. 30% Defense reduction for my all physical team seems huge. But what to max afterwards?
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>>192110542
Wing Trash is nice AoE.
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>>192109984
Does Black Blade actually make harbinger's damage good? I always hear that they are just mediocre at dealing damage.
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Is this the sequel to that Shiitake comic? I really want it translated...
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>>192111803
Well, it helps.
But it only rises slowly since deliberately overwriting ailments is not that smart.
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>>192111803
Seems mediocre to me.
>Random encounters trigger multiple ailments for big boost
>Enemies are already dead
>Boss fight where boost could be useful
>Land one ailment near the end
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>>192111803
The problem is that you have to cycle through all your ailments in order to maximize the damage output, so there's a lot of problems with that (have to make sure the enemy is vulnerable to all your shit, have to wait for ailments to run out or override them, which is annoying with curse because that's simultaneously the most useless and the highest priority, it's tricky to stick panic reliably)

Cold Ash is a relatively high damaging skill, but you will burn through your TP very quickly using it and it's not as strong as what other units can use. Also, you can only use it when ailments are up, so there's only a brief window where it'll be at full power. Temporal Shroud removes all your black blade buffs so it's pretty garbage.

Basically the main appeal behind death bringing harb. is reliable, very high damage row-poison, and the rest is just sort of filler. I'm more fond of the support branch.
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>>192105251
Necromancer fierce shield and Rover Guard Command are the other two absolute guards
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>>192112692
>it's tricky to stick panic reliably
What about shriveling miasma/smoke/black mist stacking?
>curse
Why is this garbage ailment on three different fucking classes? Are they trying to make us think it's not shit?
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>>192109230
Get a reaper
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>>192113004
>every game until you like it
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>>192106718
>What happened to just experimenting? What happened to testing things out yourself, or thinking things through, or just having fun with a cool team you made?
A lot of people are playing just the demo. You can't figure shit on your own if you are playing just the demo. All the good things the classes have, are hiding in the demo.
The only classes that are not shit in the demo are Cestus and Masuraos
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>>192113004
It's a combination of the proc rate capping out at 50% and most bosses heavily resisting the ailment. If you stack everything in your favor for that turn then you can still land it, but that's a union skill that could have been saved for clinch or chain blast, and smoke might have your potato cuck you out of your ailment damage boosts.
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>>192091520
You give the protector hit taker 9
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>>192113072
I'll probably just get rid of my Pugilist and keep my Rover for binds and maybe I'll reclass my Warlock into Omnimancer for the binds. Reaper makes no sense in a chain party.
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How fast is mana oracle?
In particular, if I have one shaman use dance oracle and another use mana oracle on the same turn, what happens?
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>>192113546
reaper makes sense in a chain killer party though, and those get hilariously broken because of the targeting bug.
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>>192113663
I thought about running chain killer but I'm pretty happy with my elemental chains. The damage is nuts and unlike Chain Killer it seems a lot more sustainable.
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>3rd stratum boss has a curse damage conditional
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why is dragon roar so shitty, i could use some more defense
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Teach is ___ girl
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It might seem obvious, but if an attack hits a single target multiple times and the fencer dodges them all, will she make one counter attack, or one for every single dodged attack?
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>>192113645
Looks like it has no speed modifier so it'll always go to after dance Oracle
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>>192114395
Dragon Roar is for the taunt not the defense boost
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>>192114359
Formaldehyde.
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>>192114885
She will counter all of them iirc. I just forget if it should be countering inbetween the hits or all after
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>>192114656
one
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>>192115125
I don't think so
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>>192114656
best
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What do? Also are the "raised [stat]" race skills worth it or is it like one point?
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>>192114885
>>192115239
Every dodge makes a Fencer with Sylphid try to counter attack. Their chance is just falling with every attack.

All counters only happen after the multi-hit skill is finished.

It's just like Lure in that regard - only that Lure also happens if the Fencer dies during the multi-hit attack.
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>>192109850
Because some names were clearly meant for reclassing, and smoke botanist is one of them
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>>192115478
Up to level 12 it's 3 points.
At 99 it's 10 points.
Per passive and they all have the same scaling.
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>>192115517
Wait, are you saying that lure can trigger multiple times in a single turn? For some reason I thought it would only work once. That seems like it can get pretty nuts.
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>>192115478
They scale with your level so one point will eventually give like 10 points each. Therian are super strong cause they have 3 strength ones. Get them late when you're done with your main skill tree
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>>192114656
shit
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>>192115678
You need to set up Lure though since it has no increased aggro
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I've never had this much trouble in the 1st stratum before
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>>192109874
You can always use basic if you want to run some retarded comp
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>>192115641
>>192115723
So I'm thinking of putting Black Blade at 10 and getting the luck boost one. Yea or nay?
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>>192116025
Sure, it's something you want eventually.
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>>192115897
Why is she drying her forhead with choloate bars?
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How much does luck improve the bind rate?
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>>192115678
Postgame final boss spoiler:
Lure wrecking face.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ltHewujb_E

Every time the Pugilist hits is a Lure activation (it also causes the Masurao to hit but she also hits with Hell Slash until she runs out of activations).
You can also see how Sylphid activates after failing to activate for some dodges.
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>>192116025
Black Blade resets when miasma armor ends. So be aware that you will need to spend a turn reapplying it every so often, or just treat it as a 33% buff for a few turns after ailment infliction.
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>>192116704
A lot.
It is hard to quantify since it gets compared to the LUC of your enemy. So saying something like "one more LUC will increase the chance by x%" is not possible.
You want as much as possible, that's for sure.

Btw. the Warlock and Necromancer ailment skills as well as Chain Blast scale with INT + 2*LUC instead of just 3*LUC.
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>>192080780
I know this is from hours ago but I finally realized that the qr codes are working you just need to have the camera on them for a much longer time compared to the other games, so try that anon.

Also are the stats of the dog/hawk listed anywhere?
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>>192117192
You can stack the duration of Miasma Armor by using it when it's already active.
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>>192117372
That's what I meant by reapplying it. At the end of the day though, you still just need to cast it a fair amount.
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>>192117370
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>>192117242
I see, that's helpful
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I just killed a Toxipede efortlessly at level 9. Why do people from here fear it, again?
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It's time to play EOII
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>>192117370
>>192117632
Keep in mind the Whistles increase those stats by up to 50% - the hawk hits the STR and AGI cap of 255.
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>>192115263
They exist in EOV. Just save the conditional for later.
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>>192117721
If you have something to ignore single target hit like a bunker or a dodge Fencer they are a joke.
If you don't have something like this poison will kill nearly everyone with less than the best defensive gear in the demo.
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>>192116025
Black blade only procs when the reaper inflicts something and it gets dispelled if miasma armor wears off. So consider that you are trying to inflict 3 ailments but also keeping miasma armor on and then realize how retarded it is
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>>192117808
>>192117632
Thank you so much, the dog has more luck than I expected.
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>>192117736
>males
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>>192117736
Tell me your headcanon for these characters
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>>192117736
Good luck, anon.
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>>192117372
So you're spending like 5-6 turns building it up while doing no actual damage since you also need to apply shriveling. You wont have enough skill points for any of this either
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>>192117736
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVgR3hEXuU4&t=19s
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>>192118049
Hunky mature males
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>>192118049
>Not building a balanced party
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>>192118103
Just... don't use reaper
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>>192117736
But both Teach and Peach er superior. And why do you want a East block contry gunner? I mean, sure they can shoot, but they are not pleaseant to be around.
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>>192117736
>Hag WM over Fang
0/10
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>>192117721
hit+poison proc is oneshot and you will get bitten a lot if you don't spam bunkers or other way to avoid it
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>>192118103
You can only have 9 turns duration like with any effect. So casting it for 5-6 turns will make your counter overflow.

It's similar to Ronin Stances only that Harbinger focus more on utility than pure damage (and bad defences).
Ronin also always had problems with their Stance turn economy.
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For those who already played it - is Nene game closer (in terms of mechanisms, HP of enemies, balance btween offense and defense) to III or IV?
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>>192117962
I had two bunkers up but they never draw any attack; they're pretty much just decoration. I did have a pug binding its head and arms to negate and reduce its attack though. Are people really using suboptimal parties so that they cannot kill this thing with ease?
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>>192118239
That's what everyone sane enough is doing
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Can you infict bind on and already bound enemy to increase the duration or something?
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>>192118049
>>192118343
>>192118376
Stop fucking judging other people's fucking parties you fuckheads fuck. "Oh, EO is a game where you can play your rules t./eog" WELL FUCKING JUST LET THEM DECIDE THEIR RULES, JESUS DICK I'M SO FUCKING SICK AND TIRED OF YOU GODDAMN IDIOTS BEING SO FUCKING JUDGMENTAL OF OTHER PEOPLE'S ANIME GIRLS NO LESS
I hate it
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>>192118547
No.
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>>192118621
no
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>>192118621
It's all in good fun anon. Chill.
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>>192118518
Only Pugilist and Rover really have binds (one Warlock spec has arm bind and there is that useless Masurao skill).
If you run neither and for example a Dragoon and a Necro (so you don't want to use bunkers) they can deal damage and melt people.
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>>192118462
Building up black blade, not miasma

There's shriveling, recasting miasma and even getting lucky with landing ailments in the first place all while literally any other party would be finished the battle by now . Also you can only attack while the ailments are up or else toy won't proc frigid real. It's just an awful second name
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>>192118621
Hate the game, not the player.
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>>192118759
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>>192118501
Do you have the full swingy sword girl comic page? Sorry for not answering your question.
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>>192118621
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>>192118880
Black Blade only get three activations and only if you inflict an ailment.
Overwriting ailments that already stick just for that is kind of bad.

But yeah, it is not the most min-max second name. Still fun, though.
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>>192119063

No, its just one imagine I got from this general.

Also, how should a team with Dragon and Fencer looks like to be effective in combat and at the same time balanced enough to be crippling overspecialized?
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Original Bandanashark is still the best.
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>>192119615
Ricky on the left.
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Tan skin + black hair just doesn't match with potato shamans
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>>192119859
I gave my braid Shaman bright skin and red hair.
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>>192118067
I'm typing it up now and will probably post it in a pastebin soon. I must warn you that I am not a skilled writer though.
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>>192119859
I fuckig hate potatos, I wish I could have a good botanist without using that ugly sprite
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>>192120108
kill your elf
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>>192120195
I actually love my elf wife very much, thank you.
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>>192120378
Bewbs. We know the lalas are an inspiration, but where did all these tits come from?
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Reminder that there are no wrong or shit waifus
Not even tittymancer. You know who you are, anon
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>>192119667
That's the Alice Farmer.
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>>192120195
Gladly.
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>>192120496
This is my waify, she is not a loli, npr a tittymonster.
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>>192120456
I like her thighs and armpits
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>>192120614
No, it's ricky.
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God fucking dammit...
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>>192120930
I can't believe you've done this
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>>192120930
Oh so we're doing this are we?
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>>192090856
I really don't want to beg for a link to the .cia here ...
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>>192121332
But you are though.
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I heard there was an item that gives xp to the party thats staying home.
Does, let's say 3 members, in the guild, do they get as much xp as if there were 10 members there?
Are farming parties worth it if so?
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I could not find the translated swingy sword girl manga page...
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>>192121867
It gives 10% of the exp earned to everyone on the bench. And it doesn't take it away from the active member.
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>>192121332
Slut
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>>192121867

>>192087732

Doesn't matter how many people you have.

Gathering parties are not all that necessary - ever character can only put one point into gather skills anyways. Two to three if you also want all the forraging stuff for food.
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>>192121936
Ah, I see. Thanks. Are people running with farming parties? I never really bothered outside 3, but that was because eog kept saying I should do it.
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I hate the third stratum, and yet I like it so much
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>>192122065
No need in IV or V at least
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soon
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How the hell do I counter the ghosts
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>>192122263
Reclassing is after the tutorial mission.
Demo is already out.
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>>192122263
wtf
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>>192121602
Well, yeah.

But if you were me and had to work doubleshifts the past week and had no time to visit /vg/, you would be a little bit disappointed too that you missed it
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>>192122428
Just check the archives
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Every boss first try so far. 4th stratum looks pretty gloomy.
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>>192122428
>missed it
Archives and ctrl+f exist
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>>192122428
Do mega links expire?

>>191878532
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>>192122585
4th? I think you mean 3rd, right?
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>>192122848
That one too but the 4th looks pretty depressing for some reason.
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>>192122604
>>192122549
I actually did but ...

>>192122697
Okay, now I feel fucking stupid that I haven't seen it. I searched for shit like "Torrent" or "Download" or "Cia" or atleast a post with tons of replies that includes any sort of link. I thought it maybe got deleted because breaking streetdate and such ...
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>>192123097
For future reference:
Ctrl + F : mega
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>>192119510

Please respond ;_;
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>>192123312
I don't even understand the question.
You want to be balanced enough to be too overspecialised?

Shield Dragoon (for Counter Guard)
Chain Fencer
Dog Rover
Elemancer Warlock
Herald Shaman

is a balanced Chain party.
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>>192123510

Balanced to AVOID overspecialization that crashes the moment something does not go according to the plan.

And thanks for team suggestion! But wont Shaman be too weak in healing?
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>>192118067
>>192120059

Here you go anon

https://pastebin.com/C5DRCfhs
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>>192123312
>cockona
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>>192123774
Dog Rover is a support with bins, ailment and heal (that scales with max HP).
Together with Shaman they heal enough while also being able to deal damage and activate Chains.
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>>192122263
>black hair
awful
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>>192123809
Pretty good!
Most of them are anti-social and shy people, so I feel a bit bad for the eastern bloc dude, having to carry conversations with them
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>>192124368
Thanks for taking the time to read it anon.

I wanted that to be kind of a theme of the party, a group of mostly outcasts that find comfort in each other.
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>damage tiles multistratum teleport maze with 4-ways teleporters and enemies that can instakill your whole party if they blindside you
Yamenasai
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>>192124456
They are all somewhat self sustaining people, but have certain weaknesses the others make up for.
Might be very interesting in the long run!
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>>192124710
i hope that's not EOV
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>>192122314
Don't attack
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>>192124710
trap teleporters behind doors
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>>192124928
there has to be something better than that
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>>192124093
Our tongue meme predates lesbian dogs.
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>>192125296
poison
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>>192124753
Y... Yeah, the sixth stratum has nothing of the sort ahahah and it's not like half of the teleporters send you back to the start or anything, wouldn't that just be obnoxious ahahahah
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>>192122263
They are here to steal the treasures from the labyrinth and all its explorers
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>>192122263
>two warlock portraits
>not using the best generic elf
What the fuck
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>>192122263
WE
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I've been feeling a run for EO1 ds recently. What team will ensure I have the worst time possible?
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>>192127248
five hexer
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>>192127248
No Medic, no Protector.
Landy, Dark Hunter, Alchemist, Trobadour, Survivalist.

Survivalist -> Hexer
and
Landy -> Ronin
when available.
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>>192127517
...that is my exact team in untold.

I don't want to be a faggy 'check my team' dude but I'm not fucked, right?
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>>192127642
EOU1 =/= EO1

EO1 had a much worse class balance.
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is auto farming still a still in this game like in IV?
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>>192127642
Class balance is totally different in Untold.

Landy and Survivalist are pretty strong in EO1 while the are so-so in EOU.
Ronin and Hexer are bit underwhelming in EO1 but strong in EOU.

Medic's Immunize is outright broken in EO1 (literally) and the defence debuff from Protector is also strong when in basically any game after that defence debuffs were shit.
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>>192127957
Yes.
There is even a unique assessory that gives XP (to one person) while walking - in addition to the usual "auto-run in circles and press A" stuff.
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>>192128081
survivalist is the best medic in untold 1
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>>192128081
>ronin
>strong in eou
wat
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>>192128209
oh shit, is there a better method than using a clamp for my a button, they didn't add any auto- auto battle settings it seems
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We're never getting a part 2 arrange from Hibino are we
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>>192128458
Only 2's Ronin is better, because midareba was horseshit. There's no reason to run landsnack in untold because ronin is just a better physical damage dealer in every respect.
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>>192128381
Great for single fights, annoying for exploration.
Especially if you have characters with bad VIT that need to be topped off.

>>192128458
Endless Peerless Stance while throwing out strong attacks is nice.
Their STR advantage is actually significant and not one fucking point like in EO2U.

They are no Highlander or Ricky but great in classic only parties.
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>>192128458
Nigga what are you smoking? EOU1 ronin's were one of the best classes in the game.
They were even good without grimoires.
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>>192128458
Ronins in EOU are the best damage dealers period. Even Highlander needs team support and Gunner gets outclassed once grimoires come into play. And of course DH needs to lay down binds.

Maybe you're thinking of EO2U.
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About to start a run in EOV tonight.

Thinking about making a team using:

Elemancer Warlock
Phantom Fencer
Evoker Necromancer
Falconry Rover
Shield Dragoon

Would this team work out?
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>Stabdaddy
Is Egar a meme master?
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>>192129901
Just play the damn game
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New to EO in general here. Can someone explain Fencer's chaining to a brainlet? How is it utilized?
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>>192078561
I am the biggest retard in the face of the earth, let me see if I got it right to do the undub
>install EOV CIA
>other files go on Luma folder
>use Enable Game Patcher on Luma
>???????
>Profit
Did I get it right?
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>>192130093
Why not just download the prepatched CIA?
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>>192130171
there is one?
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>>192129901
Healing is a bit thin as is your cleanse - especially since you only have two Wraith slots.
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>>192130028
Seconding this
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>>192130225
https://a.doko.moe/odnpma.7z
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>>192129901
No, it won't
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>>192130326
I swear to god if there's dolphin porn in here
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>>192130028
Basically, you use a chain of a certain element, other party members use that same element in an attack (or use stab damage), and then the fencer follows up.

It's sort of like Links in how each successive chain attack from the fencer will get stronger with chain boost.
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>>192130267

Can I drop the Dragoon for a Botanist?

I envisioned the Botanist as an average HS kid who died and reincarnated as in a new world with the intention of fulfilling his dream of becoming a renowned hero and slaying the hero king. But is now a Brony.
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>>192130571
>other party members use that same element in an attack (or use stab damage),
So to best utilize this you'd need other fencers? Sounds kinda lame if you're only running one like me and the rest are completely other classes.
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>>192130028
Let's say Chain Flame.
At the start of your turn, before pretty much anyone acts but after Union skills, your Fencer starts staring at their target.
Whenever that target gets hit by a stab or a fire attack, you Fencer will spring into action and attack that target.
The first hit is guaranteed but for each activation the chance to attack gets reduced. And you have a maximum number of attacks.

To have an effective Chain party, you want people that can activate Chains.
Rover has stab damage which activates all elemental Chains.
Warlock has fire/ice/volt damage so they can also activate Chains.
Shaman has Dance Oracle which can be either fire, ice or volt element (so it activates the elemental chains) and increases damage of that element for the rest of the turn.

Dragoon's counter guard, Masurao's Armor Pierce and a Dodge Fencer's various thrusts are all stab damage.

Chain Killer is similar to the elemental chains but it only activates if binds or ailments get inflicted - but has no activation chance reduction.
And then certain passives and a buff from the Chain Fencer tree can increase Chain damage and activation chance.
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>>192130810
no, it just means you need people who can use elemental or stab damage. like you could use a botanist to chain by just giving them a bow.
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>>192130420
It's legit, It's the one I'm using.
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Is ray of light worth maxing as soon as I get the mastery?
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>>192130707
Your only frontline character would be the Fencer.
Necro, Warlock and Rover all have squishy base races and even if Brounis are sturdier Botanists can only wear cloth.
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>>192131112
No. You want Lightweight and then probably Deft Thrust.
Ray of Light is actually rather low on the priority list since you need to get attacked in the first place for it to do anything.
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>>192131118

Goddamnit.

I'm going to have to make 2 files then.
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Berries are the most OP food, it's a shame they're so rare
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>>192131376
There is an item on the third floor that gives everyone at the guild hall half of the battle XP of a normal party (without taking anything from the active party).
You could rotate characters - it is not as grindy as it was in past games.

And there is also the 3x XP ring DLC. That one even works with quest and mission XP.
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>>192131241
I'll deftly thrust my ray of light into your lightweight
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>>192131118

Is the quadruple sword user a frontline fighter?
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>>192131241
Can you skip predict completely and just use deft thrust to draw aggro?
What about phantom swords? Is it necessary if I don't need lure?
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>>192131754
That's why they are so expensive at the tavern (if their trader is even there).
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>>192131803

My tentative cast needs to have infighting and rival teams, hence the need for a second file, or I should just make rival teams inside the guild.

We'll see.
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What's the way to build a necromancer if you want healing instead of 9999 ghost cheese?
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>>192131921
Sadly yes, since all their attacks are melee range.
But they need someone to take the fire off of them (Shield Dragoon Divide Guard, Hound Rover Guard Command, Necromancer with Fierce Shield, sometimes dodge Fencer - or just enough control that the enemy can not even do anything) or else they die to nearly every attack.
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>>192132105
aren't necros too slow to be reliable for heals?
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>>192131754
do they make something better than pancakes and yogurt?
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>>192131964
Predict is bad even in the base class.
It has its uses against single enemies that only attack once but evasion and aggro quickly fall for every dodge while the 2.5x damage multiplier stays the entire turn.
Against random encounters it's usually: dodge -> dead when two enemies attack.

Optic Thrust is the most helpful and safe thing a base dodge Fencer can do and then it's straight into Lightweight (with only a sword equipped) and Deft Thrust.
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>>192132236
The honeyed fruit, which can revive at full hp
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>>192132174
Are they? I thought the speed ranking went Bunny > Elf > Human > Potato. And coffins are +5 speed so with light clothing and boots they should be fine.
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>he moved the turtle instead of outspeeding it
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>>192132380
meh, that would involves ending battles with people dead
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>>192132105
Necros only have their party heal they have access to in the base class. Neither spec gets more healing, only Evokers get a party revive - that has a 75% chance to work...

They are support healers at best, with something like a dog Rover (which takes space on the summon line) or at least a Herald Shaman to add to their healing.
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>>192132438
Elves are by far the slowest race.
Those are magical elves, not wood elves.
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>>192132438
They're faster than potatoes and their healing skill even has a higher priority than the herbalist one, not to mention you don't need the second name for it and it has more healing power
The single target skill from herbalists is faster though, but in terms of party wide yeah necromancer is better
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>boot up EOV
>no Loli's
>turn off EOV
Let me know when the next one comes out
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>>192132598
heh, good luck with that
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>>192132137

Oh for Fucks sake.

Every idea popping up in my head makes for garbage team choices.
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>>192132836
I really, really like this meme
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>>192132438
>>192132784
AGI without racial passives at 99:
Therian: 152
Earthlain: 132
Brouni: 122
Celestrian: 95

Therian has 3 AGI up passives (+10 AGI at 99), Earthlain 2 and Brouni and Celestrian 1.
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>>192132369
I see. Thanks anon
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Aren't the potatos lolis
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>>192133201
Those nasty little things are not loli's. They're disgustingly proportioned
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>>192132919
Does it have to be 4kat?
Single katana Masurao can wear heavy armor which makes them pretty sturdy, even as Therians.
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>>192133262
No potato shaming
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>>192133201
potatos seperate the memers from the men
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>>192132836
emd2
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>>192132836
Necrololi was enough to keep me playing but I really hope Himukai goes back to his tru self
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Are the DLC portraits loli?
Medico is one, right?
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>>192133725
DLC isn't out for the US one yet. Also they look jarring because they used the EO1 portraits instead of the more modern Medic portraits.
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>stagger DLC release when it's all portraits which either have to be made from scratch or retired into

For what fucking purpose
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>>192106718
If team comp posts go away, what other discussion would these threads even have?
They'd just be lists of 'post your favorite stratum or whatever', and image dumping.
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>>192133827
durr hurr
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Wait, are there really no lolis? I kinda don't want to bother now.
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>>192134107
there is like two at best. the rest is busty goddesses. Himukai grew up, you should too.
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>>192134107
potatos are lolis himukai agreed
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>>192134107
There is one to rule them all.
And a race of midgets.
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>>192133262
Get out, fake lolicon
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>>192106393
>>192106607
https://a.doko.moe/wddgmp.7z
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>>192134309
Woah, I like that
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>>192134397
I'm a futaba-level lolicon and I can assure you that he's not fake.
You can like potatos, they are cute but they are not lolis. They go into the toddler direction.
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>>192134882
Ingame portrait.
Hair, skin and eye colour can be changed.
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what is the 1st stratum boss' conditional? elec damage? it apparently cant get cant get paralyzed
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>>192134959
So just like that aqua hair rune master that all you lolicons love
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>>192134959
>a futaba-level lolicon
A what now?
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is holding a speeding up battle or am i crazy
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>>192135423
You must kill it while it's paralyzed, kouhai
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>>192135423
Paralyse.
To get any binds or ailments onto the big golem you have to inflict it on the small ones - they will transfer it when they fuse.
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>>192135423
it can get can get paralyzed if you paralyze the small ones, then let them merge into it.
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>>192135748
ahh makes sense
>>192135731
you werent helpful
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>>192135687
It does that since at least EOIV.
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>>192135516
I actually prefer sleepy master.
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>>192134882
And here are Brounis.
As you can see, they are short and small and cute (after I got used to them) but not fully loli.
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>>192135891
literally didn't know this since EOIV played itself while i slept
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>>192135816
Sorry. Figuring out stuff like this part of fun, though
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>>192136187
desu i would have just assumed elec damage and wasted my time since the paralyze was X'd out
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How to equip Masurao with more than one Katana?
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>>192137153
Defeat the second boss, go to the guild, choose Blade Dancer Legendary Name, put at least one point in Multi-Katana.
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>>192136380
I'm glad there is no such link between elements and statuses/secondary effects.
It never works out quite right and one of the elements sucks because of it.
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>>192139595
>you will never roleplay with a sweet and willing bunnygirl
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>>192139595
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anyone get guild cards to work yet? i'm tired of conrad-kun
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>>192140419
>willing
take all the fun out why dont you
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>>192139595
That's one delicious bunny tummy
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>>192140821
They're region locked now
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>>192140821
All of the ones people posted in the last thread worked for me. I'm on NA demo.
It took probably 30 seconds for each card to get it lined up and then fuck around until the read took.
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>>192140821
I'm on EU demo and EU ones worked just fine for me.

It's clearly hidden DRM - pirate EOV and Conrad will never leave you alone.
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>tfw still can't rearrange guild members in Explorers Guild
Three presets are still a nice feature, but I wish there were more available.
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>>192135748
>>192135815
My team doesn't have a way to inflict paralysis, is there a weapon for that later on?
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>I told him there's been a skeleton inside of him all along
Holy shit is this the ultimate meme translation or did the japanese version do this too?
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>>192141783
ultimate scythe, it also needs like 400k, ignore it for now
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Seems like gathering skills in EOV are really useful to have on explorers this time around.
Are you guys still running farming parties, or have you invested into gathering on your main team?
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>>192142309
Never thought Hide Post would ever be useful
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>>192142309
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My team so far is Phantom Fencer / Master Masurao / Barrage Puglist / Merciful Healer
but I don't know what to use for my last character?
A Warlock for elemental attacks? A Harbinger for enemy ailments?
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>>192142925
As is always the case, don't ask yourself what you don't have, ask yourself what you need.
Not being able to apply Petrify to your opponents is not a weakness, but being unable to deal with incoming physical damage is.
Think about the different scenarios that are likely to come up during dungeoneering, and ask yourself how your team will deal with them. If you find that you don't have a good answer for something, add a class that can handle it. Alternatively, if you already have everything covered, add another damage dealer. At a glance, it looks like you could use another buff class.
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Is EOV out in NA yet? I'm just coming off a massive week of exams so I have lost track of reality.
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>>192142309
both
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>>192143387
Officially no, cia and early copies yes
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>>192143496
OK, I was very confused seeing people talking about getting their copies, thanks.
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i just heard from a japanese guy that the necromancer is so overpowered that you can one-hit-kill bosses because there's a skill that makes your ghost self-destruct and deal damage to an enemy that's equal to its health 1/1, and if you combine that with the skill that increases its health to fucking 9999, then..... you see what I'm getting at?
there's also a skill that makes it absorb all damage for the entire party, and again, if that's 9999 health, then it'll last the whole boss fight.

have they fixed this in the NA and EU version? if not, i'm going to cancel my pre-order.
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>>192143718
i really don't see all the hype about 9999 damage bombs you have to cart between floors
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>>192143718
Expect replies to this to be disingenuous. They want to shill this game hard. Be cautious.
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>>192143718
You can just, you know not use that combo.
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>>192143718
Yeah, it's obviously busted as shit and anyone that says otherwise is being willfully obtuse. It's just really annoying to exploit.
It's the sole reason I'm not using a necromancer, because even having the option of doing that takes the fun out of the game.
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>>192143882
>>192143873
ah okay i see. i'm cancelling my pre-order right now thanks.
>don't use it
how about don't put game breaking garbage in the game in the first place? this is even worse than the HP and TP batteries in EOIV. if you used a protector and a beast just right you literally never had to return to the hotel. this makes that look hardcore in comparison.
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>>192142925
backrow dragoon, add that and it's actually the exact party I'm running sans second names. Line guard makes the front row really tanky, although you can easily run stuff like counter guard for more damage or bunkers for an extra line of defense. If you're one of those "I hate tanks" shitters then next best would be Rover or Necro. Dog Rover gets panic and Necro gets poison to fill the ailment niche. Both have solid defensive skills as well.
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>>192144017
The hound works the same way as the beast+protector combo did in EOIV. Hound heals your entire party every turn. I'm lucky I pirated the game, unlike the retards in this thread. Look how they have no defense for this so give you unfunny reaction images and no text instead.
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>>192144421
>>192144017
An etrian game has mixmax cheese strategies? No way!
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>>192144012
>busted as shit
Except bosses at that point would have 50k hp
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>>192144421
>beast
>protector
>EOIV
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>>192143718
>>192144012
>>192144017
>>192144421
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>>192143876
really loving this post
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>>192144614
I barely played EOIV because it was the shittiest. But you know what I'm talking about. The "easy mode, never return home or buy anything ever again and get rid of your medic endless mode" party members.
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>>192144783
He was right, though
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>>192144524
Except you get that option in the fourth stratum and the final boss only has around 35k health. It doesn't scale well at all into the postgame, but that's expected.
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>>192144876
Speaking of never returning home again from EO IV, in EO V, you can combine the hound with cooking skills and, you guessed it, never have to return home or use a medic, an endless supply of HP and TP.
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>>192144876
animal therapy helps but it isn't that good, see royal veil of EO3
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Is a party of Fencer/Dragoon/Masurao/Warlock/Botanist gonna be okay offensively or am I gimping myself if I don't go with Shaman?
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reminder it's possible to reach the max level cap 20 floors before the last boss fight with minimal grinding
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Are the titles of the EOV OST translated yet? Apparently I downloaded it some time ago, but I can't read any of the track names.
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>>192145405
it's fine, literally the cover party, all shaman really does is let you spam auto-attack chains at the start. if you want more offense switch to therian dragoon, literally no downsides.
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>>192145405
if that's a 1kat bunny you could do without the dragoon
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>>192145848
Yeah, she's 1kat. I probably could, but I like the smug Dragoon too much not to use him.
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thicc
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>>192146732
ricky is stupid
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>>192146887
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Is the way turn order is decided in EOV the same as the past EO games?
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>>192145972
is that going to be a chain fencer or a dodge fencer? If its a chain fencer your party seems set up pretty nice without the need of the Shaman since your buffs would be something like
>Chain Plus, High Ground, Amplifier
so you wouldn't fit Shaman buffs anyway and everyone can hit chains, the Dragoon can Counter Guard the front row.

Then your debuffs would probably be like "random smoke, smoke rot and armor piercer. You dont care about landing the ailment you just want a debuff for smoke rot to sink in.
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>>192147481
Chain Fencer, yeah. I was thinking chain Fencer/offensive Dragoon/1kat Masurao/3 element Warlock, then I dunno whether to make the Botanist smoke or herb.
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>>192147943
Oh wait, Counter Guard is only for the defensive Dragoon, I'd better go with that there, then.
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>>192147943
depends on the race, herb if brouni and smoke if celestrian.
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>>192147943
Offensive dragoon works fine too, this is s kind of build where I'd actually just get decoy turrets since they're really fun

I'd go healer brownie botanist and just chase herb people
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>>192083512
Just give me my EO on the Switch.
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>>192149242
>drawing with a d pad
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>>192135269
yeah, but why bother? The color scheme on necrololi is perfect as is.
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>>192144017
>implying you had a pre order
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This is fucking ridiculous. Barrage Pugilist fucking sucks. I spent a whole fight trying to bind this foe's arms, and it didn't work a single time

What's the point of having all those ailments if you can't ever fucking inflict them when you actually need them?
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>>192142309
That Herbalist skill where you gain HP/TP when gathering is something I always forget I put a point into, and I'm always happy to get the small boost while exploring.
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>>192149519
>what is touchscreen
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So how does counter guard work with chains? It can counter multiple times, but only the first counter (with proper element applied) will trigger a chain?
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>>192150329
>drawing with your fingers
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>>192150168
Mine doesn't bind shit either even though she's at over 100 luc at level 38. Chain Blast has like a 100% hitrate in comparison. If only those DLC portraits were out I'd just replace her with a second Fencer.
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>>192149519
>Not wanting EOVI launch edition to come with a quill stylus
Pleb.
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>>192150387
Counter guard counters with a stab move, think of it like a bayonet stab. IIRC it doesnt counter multihit moves more than once unlike Sylphid does but each counter will proc its own chain. So against FOE you'll really only ever counter attack back once but its also a mini line guard so its good
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What is the point of Alter? It does so little damage. Is it just the petrify?
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>>192151378
she actually looks cute here
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>>192151425
Alter gets powered up everytime the target gets hit by a supereffective attack, up to 1040% power
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>>192151425
It does a lot of damage if you hit the enemy's weakness 20 times
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>>192151378
Pene
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>>192151425
the skill thing is wrong, it deals damage 3 turns later and deals more damage depending on how many hits the target takes in that time, capping at 20.

I don't suppose the .cia will import EU demo data will it?
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>>192151470
>>192151484
>>192151545
Oooh okay.
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>>192151467
>nene
>cute

No, she still looks stupid
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>>192151378
>>192151378
thick
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>>192078561
is this a free game?
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>>192151545
it does not

>>192151619
drop your bias for a single picture holy crap
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>>192151706
no and go away
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What's up with that 'treasure map' that sends you to 6F that you get off some guy's corpse on 7F , I'm at the location, but my party doesn't find anything? Do I need a skill in particular?
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>>192151803
>muh 3% damage
fuck off class skill fag
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>>192150548
>not drawing with fingers
What are you, a casual or some gutless fatso neet with sausage fingers?
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>>192106607
What's wrong with luma patcher? Still waiting for game to come out, but never used the patcher before
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>>192151803
You need the mana reading celestrian race skill, I forgot what the treasure was, though.
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>>192152147
Nothing, it's the same as NTR's layeredFS but better.
Just get used to a bunch of people simply hating on Luma, is all.
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>>192151889
Did you reply to the wrong guy or do you have legit autism?
And here I was thinking that /v/ posting here wasn't true.

>>192152167
Thanks.
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>>192150631
On a similar note my Rover doesn't seem that great either. Binds happen rarely, the damage is awful and I think my Shaman could solo heal just fine. Also Target Arrow is really counter productive because the dog stops healing when it's on a target.
Feels like my team is getting carried by my Fencer and Warlock and the rest just tag along.
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This is my first time making a team. I've been reading up on the wiki where the classes go and was trying to base it around that, so what I have after an hour is this:
Masurao / Pugilist
Botanist / Dragoon / Necromancer
Thoughts? Should I take anyone out?
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>>192152792
move dragoon to the front row, left or right not middle
dragoon on the back row is a mistranslation
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>>192152897
>left or right not middle

Why, what's the difference
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>>192153034
Splash attacks. That shit just blew my mind just now because I never thought about it.
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>>192153092
Hmm, it can help
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>>192152897
Alright. Other than that, it's good?
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>>192151378
>tfw all the Nene posting corrupted me into changing my team just so I could fit a Dodge Nene.
Thanks.
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>>192153034
yeah splash attacks, that way it only hits the dragoon and the middle character as opposed to the whole line
>>192153401
yeah youre good, a tank and a healer should garuntee your survival
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At the rate they simplify these games the next one will have 3 skills each class
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Which voice number is Erin Fitzgerald? Has anyone made a Raquna clone?
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>>192154126
And you'll still come here and ask about team comps and which skills you should pick
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>>192154725
Only because you'll answer friendo
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>>192154843
Next time, I won't be so kind next time, friendo
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>>192154126
No they'll have 2 useful skills and 90 noob traps.
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Meet you at the top! where I'll shove you off and make bets with my party members as to how long it'll take for you to reach the bottom
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Just started playing EO4. First time into the series.
Current team comp is
>Fort/Fort
>NB/Rune/Med

Is there anything you wish you knew when first starting out?
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>>192155243
>male self insert
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>>192155243
your dragoon must be swimming in pusy
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>>192155415
I couldn't help myself. How else am I gonna play Harem Odyssey V?
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>>192155405

Yeah, enemy weaknesses and resistances. Couldn't see that in-game until IV.

Also, 2 Fort is 2 many.
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>>192155597
>not a yuri harem
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>>192155243
i feel so overleveled, my whole party is lvl 18 and i just beat the stratum boss
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Nene/Dragoon // bowherb/HawkRover/Warlock ? why are guns bash damage?
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>>192155741
Because they shoot not bullets, but cannonballs
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>>192154413
Thank the VA union strike for not publicizing names.
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>>192155405
lmao 2fort
y tho
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>>192153794
I hope you know what you're doing with her.
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>>192155813
I don't buy it, but okay. Is that party good enough to focus on chasing?
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>>192155608
>2fort2many
Are you retarded
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>>192155741
Just do it, bro. I made a shitty party and I'm still managing to progress. Just choose the cutest portraits
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>>192155721
I mean, I died my first attempt at the boss, so... M-maybe I'm underleveled
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>>192155927
He has 2 Fortresses in EOIV. That is too many Fortresses. 1 Fortress is already more than enough and literally anything else would provide more utility to the party.
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Are those lvl20 scrolls the only ones in the game or are there higher level ones? If not how do you catch new characters up quickly?
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>>192156130

Only ones. Use them wisely.
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>>192156130
No other ones, buy exp dlc.
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>>192100263
hipster = retarded
No such thing as a "combination" of both, in a way.
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>>192155721
>>192156063
Literally how? I fucked the boss at level 15 on my first try.
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>>192154413
>english voices
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>>192156130
You make a bunch of characters and leave then on the bencch, and you equip the memory conch, and then you go kill some dudes
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>>192156130
you don't need the scrolls, the rest of my guild was already level 18 from the leeched exp by the time I got them
just fill your guild with 20 benchwarmers at the start of the game and equip the conch
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>>192100263
>A combination of being a hipster and being retarded
wjat?
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>>192150168
>>192150631
b-but guys, the shills here that want to sell this game no matter what told me status effects connect all the time! >>192105208
"What games have you been playing?"
the ones where status effects don't work
>>192105282
"it's just immune, it doesn't happen to every enemy!"
yes it does
>>192105631
"every single random encounter"
except bosses when it actually matters
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>>192156338
my bench warmers are 14 levels below my main party at this point

why did they have to remove picnic, it was ideal for shit like this
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>>192150631
just make a male fencer with the red color pallete and pretend he's pre-fiend matador.
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>>192156247
i literally never run away from fights and i like to kill off all the FOEs once. i had this problem in EOIV and EOU too, i mean like i cant turn down beating the ass of an FOE i used to run away from
>>192156370
>whats greentexting?
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>>192156247
My dragoon's shields! They weren't tough enough! for a party wiping second explosion
Not everyone is as awesome as (you), anon.
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>Try to make a bunch of cute girls
>They all end up being pale skinned redheads with bright eye colours
Does anyone else have issues with their sexual tastes bleeding into character creation?
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>>192156546
has literally anyone made a male fencer?
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Back at it again. This comp is suffering but there's a light at the end of the tunnel. I hope.
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>>192156598
i'm so degenerate im not attracted to human beings anymore, not even 2d ones.
so no. i just make what's cool. which is almost never women.
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>>192156598

I have a problem where if the character's hair is a certain color, the eyes have to match.

see >>192155243
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>>192156598
How many lolis?
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>>192156679
>not nene
It's shit.
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>>192156902
>putting in your party a slut who smell like penis
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>>192156679
>it's not Nene
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>>192156902
nene is a nono
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>>192156598
Yeah, I noticed that exact pattern with my characters. The only one that I couldn't adequate into my tastes was the brouni
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>>192107773
So it was so bad after the other time that she turns him down?
keksimus
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>>192156679
>Rover Necromancer
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>>192156679
you're lolimancer... she's looking not enough... dead...
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>>192156127
What other Frontline would you recommend? Besides Landsknecht, what could I pick?
Also, I'm running 2 for the added auto taunt chance.
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Can two necros sustain a party or will I still need a dedicated healer?
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>>192157000
Nene is bene
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>>192156679
Pretty gud party, congrats on not jumping on the nene bandwagon
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>>192157171
Nene is pene
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wow solol has a sexy voice
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>>192150168
>Barrage Pugilist sucks
It's literally the best unit in the entire game.
>MUH BINDS AREN'T LANDING
1) It's RNG
2) Use Black Mist
3) Bring a Harbinger
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>>192157269
WE
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>>192157321
>1) It's RNG
No shit
>2) Use Black Mist
Cool.
>3) Bring a Harbinger
>bring the shittiest other unit
Nah
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Yo guys, quick question.
So I got the game and am having trouble on deciding on a party.
I wanted to do something revolving around fencer and a Rover, but couldn't figure out how to decide on that so what I ended up with is:

Fencer, Harbinger, Masurao
Warlock, Herbalist

I figured I would have element and stability covered for links and evade fencer, and herbalist could heal while hitting poison status. My only concern is I'm not used to going a party without a protector so would I have to be extra wary of that?
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>>192156550
>>whats greentexting?
He doesn't have to meme if he doesn't want to, imbecile.
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>>192157523
>I will willingly ignore the most effective solution to my problem so I can complain more
you do you my dude
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>>192157542
There's no rover in that party
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>>192156678
For what purpose?
There is no reason to.
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>>192157061
I told you, suffering. It's just 1 Hound though, so 2 Ghosts isn't so bad.

>>192157097
Taunt is useless once you get Party Guard. You'll just be spamming that from then on since it's so good. Normally I wouldn't bother saying anything about other team comps, but Fortress is just so incredibly good at the one thing that it does, that having 2 of them is just going to leave the other with absolutely nothing else to do. If you really don't want a Landsknecht, you could go for Dancer but really just get something to tide you over until you unlock some more classes. 2 of the later classes you unlock would fill that frontline position very well.
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>>192156810
i think i found a new wife
>>192157608
if hes not going to meme, why come here?
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>>192157321
Black Mist is a pretty poor solution imo. May as well use Chain Blast and get some real binds on that bitch.
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>>192157523
>It's RNG, but I'm going to ignore the things I can do to fix it
??????
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>>192155243
I have the same party composition as you, but I'm afraid that I wont be able to take on endgame with it considering what people have said about it.
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>>192157753
Cool. How is early Landsknecht? All I know is his main usefulness has to do with links, but I'm still before the Red Cutter fight
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>>192157836
Black Mist Clinch enables you to set up inverval as well, and since it's only a four union you can queue up Chain Blast's 150% binds for later in the fight when the resistance is higher.
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>>192157836
Chain Blast means bringing a Celestrian, which may not fit into your team comp. Black Mist comboes more powerfully with things like Chain Killer, and allows you to easily land a status effect on top. Chain Blast also takes 5 participants where Black Mist only takes 4, allowing you to use another Union Skill next turn.
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>>192157670
Yee I know, I ended up axing the Rover for the Masurao
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>>192158041
could swap out the reaper for a dragoon if you're that worried, you dont have any binds anyway
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>>192156370
Again
>trying to inflict ailments enemies are immune to
Also bosses are meant to be difficult to overcome. If they had no resistances or tricks to trip you, you would just use sudden death every time and still come crying because now it's too easy
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>>192157958
Early Landsnecht fits perfectly into any lineup. You don't need to have a party focused around links, just taking advantage of the elemental attack yourself with 1 point investment is good enough, and they're sturdy enough to take the occasional hit that slips past your Fortress.
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>>192158137
Shit I didn't realize reaper is bind dependent.
Guess I'll go with that, though if I still decide to go tankless, I suppose I'll replace the Masurao for a Pugilest
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>>192158516
???
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>>192156550
>>whats greentexting?
Cancer unless you quote someone's post.
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>>192158487
I mean Reaper isn't bind depndent but if you dont have a binder its kind of a waste

Reaper Pugilist would be fine if you go that way, you don't need a tank if they cant move although neither of them would be good at chaining since you dont have a shaman
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>>192158516
enjoy your massively inflated step and slain count on your guild card, a permany badge of your grinding shame
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>>192158516
>Not using the "E" icon for events.
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>>192158516
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>>192158875
ugly as fuck pls never post that again
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>>192158875
ugly as fuck pls post every thread forever
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>>192159045
Die in a fire
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>>192158875
ugly as fuck pls post whenever you want
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>>192158679
Oh, is that cause of Shaman's elemental buff?
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>>192159158
you use shaman's elemental buff if your class has no way to proc chains normally (I mean pugilist has thunder punch but you're not always using chain volt etc). Dragoon Masurao would be fine since they have counter guard armor pierce
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>>192158516
>Not mapping out water
You're given the ability to paint the ground blue for a reason. You make me sick.
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>>192158737
Is that what it's for? I use text for events.
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>>192159345
you know what anon i never did that through 4 but i think i will this time
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>>192159345
Don't forget about the wall touching. Fucking gay.
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>>192159345
not him, but i thought someone here said that painting water maes the map worse and ramus or whatever might not take it
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>>192159605
blue still counts as walkable tiles to the game so if you don't wall shit off properly it thinks you're a retard
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>>192159605
mapping water on first stratum can get really stupid. Just map it later up when you feel it's necessary. like, i don't know, If FOEs can cross certain gaps of water
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>>192159345
you know what anon, after trying for 30 seconds i change my mind
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Does Spread Chant work to proc Nene's chains seperately?
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>>192159765
Only if they hit separate enemies. Consecutive hits won't trigger multiple chains.
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>>192078561
Anyone got the list of what voice is associated with each number?
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>>192159698
i thought so
>>192159703
yeah i was thinking about going back and painting it, i personally painted the tiles you are talking about but just those
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>>192159991
That sucks
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Can you use two chants with quick chant?
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>>192159991
So it's pretty much impossible for get more than 4 chains per turn? Does double chain count twice or just once that does double damage?
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>>192159605
ramus is not strict

this map counted as complete
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>>192160370
But if you color non-walkable tiles, he might think that you're just filling everything without actaully exploring
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>>192160370
Just between you and me, Rembus is a fucking moron.
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>>192160262
nope
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Anyone know what the best answer to the guard is on 8F after doing his challenge quest? The one where you fight several waves of monsters and then he gets depressed that the guard corps suck.
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>>192160617
Fuck
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>>192109045
this was a while back in the thread, but I'm assuming you don't use Prime?

I got prime after I ordered originally, and placed the order again.
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>>192160370
You don't have to draw the map, you just have to get rid of the gray squares by looking at them.
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>>192160273
Dodge Fencer, 4kat Masurao, Dragoon all offer options for increasing chain count. Note that your max chains normally cap out at 5 anyways so it's not that big of a deal.
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>>192160273
double chain will proc your chain twice and boost the counter by another 20% but it doesnt eat a chain
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>>192160640
I picked the git gud option and got double the quest reward, but I don't know if it matters as long as you beat the guards
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this one?
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Anyone can suggest a party revolving around Dodge fencer and Harbinger? Lastly, do Shaman element buffs only affect the basic attacks?
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>>192161672
Nah, in EO 5.
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>>192162098
probably something like

Dodge Fencer 4Kat Pugilist

Harbringer Shaman

maybe, stack all accuracy and evasion and hopefully they will never hit you so you go lmao 4 katana on them
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I've been interested in EO for a while now from a video i saw. (said video mentioned that EO was similar to the setting in Made in Abyss) but i don't know how to start and get in the series.

Any advice on how to get into EO?
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>>192080780
>>192140821
seems like the codes are too small for the camera to read. the older EO games output larger QR codes, EOV's are only a fraction of the tiny bottom screen

resizing the image, or magnifying it in your browser works
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>>192162239
Play Etrian Odyssey Untold on the 3DS. It's a remake of the first game.
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>>192162239
EOIV if you have a 3DS.
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>>192162239
EO on the DS
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I'm playing EOV with the original Japanese voices on my 3DS right now, what the fuck are you doing?
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>>192162702
The same.
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>>192162702
>what the fuck are you doing?
Not enough demo uses
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>>192162702
i'm recoloring my portraits for the 40th time
it will never be good enough
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>>192162702
>on 3DS

You sure like gagging on that nintendo/atlus cock
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>>192162226
Hmm so after thinking about what I want, I've decided

Fencer, Harbinger, katana
Hawk Rover, shaman
I found out hawk can do binds also though I don't know how reliably. And Harbinger can cover poison status which I love to use. Only concern is checking if my dodge fencer can chain
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>>192163256
>pervert
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>>192163358
Homebrewing my 3DS to never pay for any game ever again is the opposite of gagging on either cock desu.
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>>192163358
>false flagging this hard.
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>>192163256
>20kat masurao squad will never bully your dick

why live
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>>192163358
t. homosexual poorfag
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>>192163448
Still had to pay for the 3ds itself
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How does this party sound:
Dragoon/Masurao/Necromancer/Pugilist/Herbalist

Mainly I'm concerned with whether Necromancers and Dragoons can work on the same team
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>>192163256
Mota > Himukai
Mota's Designs > Himukai's Designs.
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>>192164161
Mota a shit
Minami Star > Mota
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>>192164161

If mota is so good, why didn't they bring him back for the other 7D games?
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>>192164161
the designs in genkai tokki look like shit
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>>192164383
Now that's going too far.
That's Compile Heart garbage.
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>>192164291
cause Miwa is even better
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>>192164086
a-anybody?
I'm not too sure what I'm doing in class composition
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>>192164291
Dunno. But the later 7th Dragon games are garbage.
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>>192164086
From what I've read, your dragoon and necro should be fine; you'll have to fork over the bunkers for Necromancer summons which shouldn't be a problem cause you shouldn't have to rely on bunkers heavily
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>>192164086
bunker/pillbox dragoons want to stack them and necros really want all 3 slots
swap out necro for warlock and you have the cookie cutter team
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>>192164919
>cookie cutter team
>no shaman
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>>192164771
Pretty much anything works. Seems pretty hard to mess up in this game
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>>192164086
Second names are important
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>>192164919
>>192164992
deja vu
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>>192165119
What are the most fun options?
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>>192165272
>>192165272

New thread
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When's the EO monster battling spinoff coming out?
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>>192165303
Whatever happened to waiting for page 10? Did people finally realize that was stupid?
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>>192165486
So many people shitposting in the OP
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>>192162239
Newest game comes out on the 17th for 3DS and returns to it's roots a bit with one big dungeon, it also has bunnygirls. The games aren't really connected so you can play them in any order you want. Although it'll get more painful if you go in backwards order because the series has become a lot more polished over the years.
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I've looked at the skillsim but i still cant figure it out. Is phantom swords fencer a viable tank?
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>>192159345
in the demo there are spots where walling things off and doing water as best you can yields odd things like a wall that's just four lines covering one square without connecting to a larger wall despite one point at the upper left connecting to another point created by a much bigger wall
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I made a cookie cutter chain party, but it just feels bland. Like it's strong, but it's not fun, and I dislike using the wrong portraits for classes (since I went bunny fencer).

Also, does the chain fencer use self buffs? Because I'm not even going to bother with shaman if buffs get overridden non stop.

Considering:

Cannon Dragoon/ 1kat / Either Pug
Botanist /???

I heard barrage pug is weakish, and I'd like to try the damage form if it's any good. Warlock could round the team out, but I tend to run them and want to try and avoid them. Maybe a hawk?
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>>192173370
Get shaman for ele damage. Warlock is boring as shit.

Then, since you have 2 supports go 4kat on bunny
Should be fun at least
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>>192144012
yeah but you can just spam grave dance with multiple necros or buster cannon or that sanzu team that killed the postgame boss in one turn and probably more
type b necro isn't that noteworthy and the balance is janky as shit in general, but it's hardly surprising after 4 and grimoires, it's probably a good thing that U3 will be the last because they obviously have no idea where to go with this series now




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