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>Everything EO (References, Music, Art Books, etc.)
https://pastebin.com/cdfQmt11

>EOV
http://atlus.com/etrian5/
http://sq-atlus.jp/sq5/

>EMD2
http://sq-atlus.jp/sfd2/

EOV releases October 17th for NA (Digital for EU), November 3rd for EU.

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>>192165272
eww
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>>192165272
I got through EO1 and EO2 for the most part with combat medic.

Is there an equivalent in EO5? With potatoes?
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>>192165272
Holy shit what happened to Raquna's arms...
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>>192165247
4kat masurao is pretty crazy, and has some synergy with barrage pugilist, but will need support from the dragoon
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>>192165735
That's not all that's wrong with that picture
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>>192165719
there's an endgame staff with 950% damage caduceus but you wouldn't run that on a potato
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>that fucking goblin body on canada
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Or her mouth... I feel like I need to post Canada to make up for this atrocity.
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>>192166030
She drinks a lot or beer
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when will minami star draw the space salad
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Any suggestion for Hippogryph on Expert?

Groups around 23, one good poisoning tears down its hp by half but my 10/10 concussion blow has a really bad proc rate to prevent it from healing 1500 when it raises its hands.

What do?
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>>192166812

ayylmao is for hug, not fug
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>>192166860
you max out thunder fist like a good punchbot
also magic
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I wonder if the japs have done any fanart of her with eyes.
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>>192165272
My god. What the fuck were you thinking, man?
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>>192166181
Who the fuSSQ cares about Canada? Ricky the Dicky looks cute in that picture that's all that mattress.
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Anyone rip the english voices?
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>>192167264
I guess I'm blind guys
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I'm looking for Etriam Odyssey general
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>>192167776
I'n sorry but it died.
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>>192167902

But dumgeom RPG is torever.
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>>192167776
have you tried vita general?
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>>192167776
Etriarn rnachine broke
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>>192166860
I did it with a fencer chasing the warlock and hound. I think. If you do enough damage, it's guard should break
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>>192167048
MADE FOR FUCKING RAPE
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I've looked at the skillsim but i still cant figure it out. Is phantom swords fencer a viable tank?
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>>192167048
What would her rape babies look like
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>>192168807
You should hang here more often, anon.

Dodge fencer is pretty great until enemies start abusing AoEs.
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>mfw after two years and 55 in-game hours I finally beat EOU2 story mode
>that ending
Holy shit was it unsatisfactory. Maybe I just didn't have the right conneciton to the cast after such a time gap, but ending it on 'team rocket blasts away' wasn't much of a smart move.
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>>192169797
They wanted to sequel hook it but then it sold like shit because it released right next to pocket monsters
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How do I build a tanking beast in the original EO2 on ds?
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>>192170029
You can't, they are shit.
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>>192170029
have the rest of your party be beasts, protectors and landsknechts
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>>192170029
You spam dominate and torpor and hope that nothing ever actually attacks your party
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>>192170009
So no 3U with different cast after 5 western release?
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>>192170328
it's coming
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>>192170408
Well, at least something.
Have an old ass photo.
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>>192169348
I normally do hang here pretty often. I took a I've looked at the skillsim but i still cant figure it out. Is phantom swords fencer a viable tank?
break from browsing /eog/ so i could avoid possible spoilers, but its left me clueless as to which parties/classes are viable yet unorthodox
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>>192170996
what could've possibly been spoiled in a game like this
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is rover doggo healing good throughout the game
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>>192171067
isnt the 6th stratum a spoiler or something about the game?
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>>192171067
finding out out that the secret to yggdrasil were the friends we made along the way
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>>192171302
>not killing your friends
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>>192171520
fuck off dagda
the only thing i liked about you was your voice
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How do Wraith Passives interact with multiple Necros?

not sure how to assign SP on this triple Necro meme team
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The follow-up chance in One-Two Punch is the same for each binding punch, right? Or does it decrease like Chasers from previous games?
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>>192171609
xander mobus has the best range i've ever heard from a english va
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>>192172352
each punch is rolled for separately, no decreasing chances
chains abide by chaser logic though
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>>192172160
the wraith mastery passives apply to the wraiths they summon themselves
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>15F

I had forgotten how awful this graveyard was.
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I'm halfway through 2nd Stratum and I've decided I want to replace a party member with another class. Is there a quicker way to catch them up later on, or should I just grind it out now?
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>>192174746
at the end of second you get a thing to raise people to level 20
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So what's the character limit on legendary titles since some people got their hands on EO5 early?
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Help I cant quit making ailment parties even though I dont want to

I dont wanna use dragoon though and I gotta keep us alive somehow
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Now that EOV has leaked, I'm going to play it.
However I never played IV. Should I start with that or just not worry?
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>>192175970
You're better off not playing it. Go with V.
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>>192175970
i don't like 4
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>>192176124
>>192176129
Roger that anons, thanks
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>>192175970
IV has an airship and a cool overworld. It also has this cutie instead a potato faggot selling you stuff
Nene is also not in the game
Objectively a better game
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How can I complete the first floor of the first stratum ? I think I need to open that locked door at South-West but where's the key ?
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>>192176329
while i miss my shopkeep fuck the airship desu
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>>192170106
Why can't I build a tanking beast?
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>>192176420
>Fuck the airship
No worries, you're allowed to have shit taste.
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>>192176410
you don't need to enter that room, just visit thee whole map, man
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>>192176420
>3 had a boat
>4 had a plane
We needed a car in EO5. Having separate dungeons spread across the world felt way better.
5 cute girls driving across a continent, exploring dungeons and killing stuff seems like a great game. Kinda sounds like a decent final fantasy 15
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>>192176329
Potato faggot is a bro and doesn't speak like a retard.
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>>192177009
Steam punk EO when?
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>>192176329
IV has the cutest characters in general.
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>>192177281.
>Ange, Beato, Chise, Dorothy, Princess
>exactly 5 girls
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>Somehow managed to beat Undead King with this trash party setup at Lvl 35

Hygieia's Bowl and a clutch Chain Blast by Lili saved the day.
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what is a fun team that uses masurao and necromancer? Does the heal from Life Exchange fall off later?
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>>192177702
1kat masu and necro duo
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>>192167526
I can do that this afternoon if you really want them.
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How do I even use the necromancer second name? Besides popping things with zombie powder she can't do much before finishing all her TPs.
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>>192165272
When can I go full Memesurao
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Im scared to play any non-4 game now

how will i survive without infinite TP on everyone but 1 character, instant encounter clearing+passive full healing after every battle and calm breath spam with near infinite burst meter in case i fuck up

I might actually have to get accessories too without wiglaf and kirjonen feeding me crap the whole game
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>>192176853
I give. I'm pretty damn sure I visited the whole map, grabbed the soils and all.
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>>192178802
the stairs are in the bottom right room and also where the fuck are all your walls
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>>192178862
I found the exit to 2F yeah, but am I supposed to paint the walls ?
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>>192178802
>Hurr I won't draw walls xd
>How could I miss the stairs :,(
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>>192178924
Of course you are
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Which one should I start with if I literally just discovered the games baka
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>>192178802
>He isn't drawing walls, or water, or painting under doors
RRRRRREEEEEEEEEEE
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>>192178924

There's an option in the settings to change the automap to "Full". Do that.
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>>192178997
mistery dungeon 2
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>>192178997
4.
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>>192178997
3
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>>192178997
First Wizardry.
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>>192179161
Damn, alright, guess I'll wing it after sussing them. Cheers
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>>192141756
You can change the order in your guild under formation (where you put your party together).
Select a member and press left to get back to the member list. Then you can switch them around.
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>>192171236
You might want some support but if your defences are strong enough it will suffice.
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>>192175870
You need some sort of defence and if you don't want a dragoon for whatever reason ailments and binds are your best bet.
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man the healing early on in this game feels weird.

wish it was a hybrid class like monk from 3 or atleast
didnt require 6 levels before it got a line heal
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>>192176437
Their Loyalty is bugged in EOII.
If they guard another member they use that member's defences with no regards to buffs or anything.

So if they guard your alchemist, they take massive damage and likely die after a few hits. passively, every turn.
And you need Loyalty for many of their actually good skills.

Beast was luckily fixed in EO2U but in EOII it's a mess.
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>>192178584
Sacrifice -> Gates of Hell -> Fair Trade
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>>192178997
EOIV is the easiest but it is pretty different from the rest of the series.
It has an overworld and smaller mazes with even more smaller caves when the rest of the series has you explore one massive dungeon.
It might be a smoother entry if you like JRPGs.

EOIII is easy as shit to emulate as a DS game and the most polished of the DS games. Balancing was suspect on the DS however.

The upcoming EOV is back to the roots for the series and also makes a fine starting point.

EOU and EO2U are remakes of the original EO and EOII.
They are on the harder side (especially EOU) so if you like that you can start there.
Both also have a story mode with a fixed party and more text but I'm not a fan of these modes.

Story connections are almost not present - it's even questionable if all games play in the same universe to begin with. So just choose whatever sounds the best to you.
Personally, I recommend EOIV since it lets you learn things about the franchise without too much hassle.
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>>192180197
Good shit man, appreciate it
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>>192179807
Can't I just not use loyalty or only put a few points in it?
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>Get into third stratum
>Lv28
>Try to beat FOE
>The absolute madmen actually did it!
Master skills are p good.
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>>192181746
Loyalty is a passive skill so you can never deactivate it once learned (other than Resting).
And it is their Mastery - so the good skills are locked behind high levels of Loyalty. Even offensive ones.

Sadly, Beast is bad in EOII.
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>>192181827
Good job, anon.
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i need the dumbest bunnies you have
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>>192182319
Are there any bunnies less dumb than other?
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why does warlock have such awkward spells


why cant it just have single target+aoe of each element and then some unique stuff spread among them
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>>192182752
That's basically elemancer's shtick, isn't it? They just skipped from single formulae to the mid tier ones, just like Runemaster.
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>>192182072
Loyalty 3 (33% chance of activation)
Maul 5
Devour 5 (main damage skill + self healing)
Bristle 5 (raise defense for preen)
Preen 10 (draw attacks)
Doze Off 5 (self heal for long treks in dungeon)
VIT UP 10
En Garde 10 (for preen)
Autocure 5
Autoheal 5 (removing status)

I want to use a beast so I'm going to try this and see how it goes
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Who is best EOV girl?
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>>192183051
remus
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>>192183051
you
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>>192183051

Egar
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>>192182909
Kinda, it looks like it just has big/strong aoe version of every element that you then make single target with Focus Chant

The damage looks alright if you do it all but its like 70 TP a spell or something and 50 skill points and on top of all that it does way less damage then clever strike

Warlock lacks a "bonus damage when striking weakness" passive as well which doesn't help

mana flow is neat and could help a lot if you ran like 3 warlocks, which seems like a decent strategy considering Common Magic, but its an active ability too

fireball is 210% for 18 TP and explode is 270% for 40 TP, its just such a rough deal
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How powerful is Buster Cannon? I've heard that it can do obscene amounts of damage and one shot bosses if your team is set up to take advantage of it, but in a regular team not optimized for it, how good is it? Strong, average or weak?
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>>192183191
Clever Strike can't benefit from chanting, which is what makes it an ultimately worse option in terms of overall damage output. The focus multiplier is also what pushes explode over its more economical predecessor, since it becomes a 607% skill compared to 475%. They don't profit as strongly off weaknesses as Omnimancers, but common magic means if you're running another magic dealer (Shaman, mainly), then they shit out numbers anyways.

Mana Flow is random target and incredibly unreliable. Put those points into cutting costs.
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>>192182928
I wish you the best of luck, anon.
May your Beast evade those 33%.
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>>192183051
Jenetta.
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>>192183564
I was thinking of some kind of tri Elemancer thing with regards to Mana flow+common magic, but yeah cutting costs is definitely the superior option in pretty much any situation

I do see why/when you'd use the big stuff on foes/bosses but it just seems so bad for general usage, i guess thats probably why they have clever strike though so they can contribute with fairly low cost to the average fight

i dunno maybe I should try a warlock (or two) but on paper I'm extremely skeptical

is abating chant any good? it seems like itd be okish but Im bad at math and cant even calculate these percentages, and having to spend 10 TP to lower your tp costs feels kind of ridiculous

>>192183649
what happens if you have a protector 1guard a beast who procs loyalty
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>>192183963
I feel like any situation that would call for abating chant is something that you'd just use a basic skill for. Anyways, the reason I recommended shaman as the secondary damage dealer is for oracle dance, which provides an additional 50% elemental damage increase as a non-diminishing source, so it pairs really well with Warlock. A companion Omnimancer's also good, of course.
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After looking at the skill sim for EOV, I've got to ask... why does everyone use Hell Slash/Sanzu when Layered Blossoms + Reblossom hits almost as hard, but requires not even half as much team synergy?
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>>192184394
You're at the mercy of the RNG for Layered Blossom, while you can reliably control how much output you get out of Hell Slash. Also Peerless Demon goes for everything in that instead of getting split up.
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>>192184515
Ooooh, I thought Peerless Demon would stack continuously throughout the turn.
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>>192177363
Agreed
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>>192184394
People talk about the randomness of layered blossoms, but that's a dumb fucking reason, especially when you have four gods for random encounters if you really need consistent damage for some reason instead of maximizing damage over time.
One actual reason is that sanzu is indeed more effective when in a party built around it, and those parties are nontrivial to build in a way that's stable enough to work. We talk about them a lot more than reblossom 4kats because the teambuilding is more restrictive and thus a better subject of discussion.
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Why does harbinger even have miasma armor, its just a weird ammo system for their abilities, like ghosts for necro but stupid and pointless instead of meaningful and interactive
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>>192184991
It gives you really high turn action, which saves your ass with the support branch. Also serves to balance out the whole WM barrier spam in U2
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>>192183459
It's among the biggest hits in the game - held back by gun ATK and Earthlain STR not being as high as Therian STR.
Also it takes three turns to pull it off (Prep Artillery, one turn to set up Buster Cannon, one turn to execute it) and without at least Dance Oracle and some normal attack buffs it won't be super amazing.

During these three turns you can of course not defend your party so you need some other defence.
It is an ok skill if you have binds or some ailments like panic but since it costs so many points to get you will probably only get it later if you don't build for it specifically.
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Does anyone know when 5 is coming to New Zealand?

Will I have to wait another year? I literally have nothing to play on my 3ds right now.
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>>192165272
Hot
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Does having a hound and hawk out double the healing recieved at the end of the turn from Animal Therapy?
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>>192183963
Iirc Beast's Loyalty ignores everything that is on your Beast.
Defences, stats, buffs, effects - all of it.
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How effective would it be to have an elemental enchanter shaman and chase fencer? I always wanted to try out a chase party, but for some reason they always felt underwhelming and I end up going for something else. Also I don't have a botanist for healing, so would my Shaman still be able to use the enchantments if it became a divine herald?
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>>192184394
4kats will always be paper thin so you need at least some sort of defence to take the heat of off them.
And at this point many people just want to go the whole mile and build their entire party around them.

Also there is more optimisation needed for Hell Slash so there are more questions.
Reblossom is pretty straight forward.
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If a ghost dies in the middle of fierce shield, how is the rest of the damage dealt to the party? Also, my ghost won't try to tank hits for other ghosts, will they?
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>>192184991
I always ask myself the same thing for Ronin.
They are a high damage class that is counterbalanced by bad defences.
And then they need Stances on top of that for some reason.
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>>192185320
Shamans and chains go together incredibly well. Dance oracle is the most important skill for a chain party, so a defensive shaman works.
If you're ready for the hottest tech, try out two (2) shamans
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>>192185186
I have no idea if there is even a publisher for you down there.
Couldn't you usually use the EU version or something?

Sorry that I can't help you but all that I know is that Deep Silver takes care of Europe.
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>>192185489
A defensive shaman will need to constantly reapply buffs to themselves though. An offense one can get a 50% chance to keep their buff, so you can spam dance oracle more.
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>>192185198
No.
It also doesn't increase for multiple Rovers with Animal Therapy.

It just checks if there is an animal and a Rover with the skill and then it works.
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>>192185320
Since Chains also follow stab (as opposed to Chases that only followed their element) you can have a Rover focussed on their dog. They have some heal skills that can keep your party alive if supported by a Shaman.
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>>192172448
Literally killed all my friends just because I wanted to hear all his lines.

That and my friends fucking sucked. At least dagda let's me sumon/fuse fucking demons.
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>>192185396
It's like hit taker, so if you shield a party wide attack and it dies on the third hit, your last 2 members will still take damage
And no, they don't protect other ghosts
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>>192185603
Yeah, absolutely. Offensive shamans are much better if your team is stable enough to slot them in.
But if you're relying only on shaman for healing, you're going to need to be defensive shaman, because otherwise you're healing like 10 hp every other turn and using a shitty single-target heal.
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>>192185396
They absorb the hit and die from the killing blow, neutralizing it. So if it's just a single hit, it doesn't matter how much overkill, the Ghost will take it all.

However, if there are multiple hits, including pierce and stomp effects, the Ghost will only stop as much as it can, and if there are more hits left over, your party is going to get hit.
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>>192185695
Would a Dog Rover + Punisher Shaman be good enough for healing, though?
I really dislike the idea of having your healing be randomly distributed, so Hawk + Herald seems safer to me.
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>>192185801
Dumb doujin bikini girl
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Thanks for all the QR codes in the past few threads to keep me from having Conrad as my only friend in this game, guys. I guess it's alright if I post my card here to return the favor? See you all in the full game!
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How are 9999HP ghosts possible? It says the wraith skill only gives and 80% HP bonus at max level
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>>192185738
>>192185801
Who is this semen demon?
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>Can't scan QRs
Is it because I'm using a PAL/EU 3DS?
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I miss the qt blacksmith lads. I fucking hate to potatoniggers at the market so much
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>>192186042
QR's are region locked
Please understand
If we got an undub this quickly why has nobody patched this?
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>>192185995
Zombie Powder kills an enemy and makes a Wraith with their remaining HP.
There is an FOE weak to instant death in the 4th Stratum that has over 10k HP - but all allies are capped at 9999HP.
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Stop me from making a Chain focused Fencer, flanked by 2 naked Nene's, and a Shaman of either Legendary Name in the back. I'm at the 4th Stratum and I just might do it.since it can't be any worse than the party I'm currently using.

Anyone experienced with running a Dodge Fencer?
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>>192185995
Zombie powder on high health mobs I guess. There are a couple FOEs weak to insta-kill
>>192186085
I thought it was locked by the game version, I'm using a NA cia but a EU QR scanner, can they really check the difference like that? How?
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>There is an FOE weak to instant death in the 4th Stratum
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Ghosts have some pretty shit VIT and WIS, so they take loads of damage. But they can also have boatloads of HP. If I curse an enemy, and have a 9999 ghost tank an all party hit, will curse finally be useful?
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>>192186257
If you're converting ghost HP into damage, why not use the sacrifice skill that is 1:1 instead of the 2:1 ratio of curse, and have less setup to boot?
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>Curse has 1(one) use other than conditionals in the entire series
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>>192185893
If you are going with a Chain party you probably won't have much control outside of your Dog Rover - maybe add an Elemancer and a Shield Dragoon for Counter Guard to go all in on Chains.

Since your enemy will often freely attack you, running Dog Rover and Herald Shaman might be a good idea.
Your Shaman will need to reapply their buffs on their own without help from Ancient Memory so you only get Dance Oracle every second turn. But your Rover will need to heal less often since you are stacking passive healing.

Since many bosses (but not all) have summons you can use the non-Dance Oracle turns for Chain All to wipe those the next turn.
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>>192185910
I'd help if you were on the EU or Aus demo, but if you're on NA my card won't read for you.
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>>192186408
Using Curse to kill Dragons with a level 1 Beast in EO2U was fun.
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>>192186408
There's been multiple bosses that can be forced into suicide by overkilling a level 1 squishy while cursed. ...If that counts as multiple uses.
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>>192186171
No, everyone's too scared of RNG chan and only runs safe datamined mathematical parties.
No fun allowed.
report results.
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>>192186171
Why would you use two dodge fencers and one chain fencer when you can use two chain fencers and one dodge fencer?
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>>192186171
As long as they actually fucking dodge they are p good, damage wise they are reliant on team sinergy and composition since revenge strike is their only real beater skill, but they can truly make sure not even a single digit of damage falls on the team (if used properly, else you'll just get a situation described by that image with only nene alive).
The biggest weakpoint is that most of the time you won't reach true 100% dodge rate, meaning that at times you'll get oneshot even after setting up the best you could. Also they are kinda heavy on the TP side.
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>>192186408
I didn't even know that it had a single use outside of conditionals.
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>>192186550
Because I don't know if only 1 Dodge Fencer can trigger 4 chain hits on their own. If they can, then I'll do that instead.

>>192186549
>>192186557
So is it really just Predict and Lightweight and you're good to go? I'll probably have the Evade buff from one of the 2 Shamans as well.
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>>192186557
rng is bound to be in your favor after a while, so all you have to do is fight again, and you'll win.
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>>192186675
Get a reaper for aim debuffs on enemies while you're at it.
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>>192186723
Nah, I used a Reaper last run, so I'm limiting myself to classes I didn't use. It's why my party is garbage right now.
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>>192186304
This lets you protect the party while inflicting damage. Though I'm mostly trying to think of a way to make curse useful. It's so fucking shit.
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>>192186675
Dodge fencers really like to be dodging hits, to splitting it up between two is not a good idea. Chain Fencers give you double the value of Chains, and Multi-Stab hits decently hard in its own right. You've got a Shaman as well, which means you can guarantee that everyone on your team chains once with the Elemental Prayer if they don't have anything better to trigger the chains with.
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>>192186546
They have to stay alive since curse only proccs on non-lethal hits.
Thankfully there are ways in some games to let those characters survive at 1HP even if they take a magnitute of their HP as damage.
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>>192186550
>>192186789

Seems Sylphid counters triggers Chains, so I guess I'm going 2 Chain 1 Dodge. There's no going back now.
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>>192186675
Predict is trash only usefull vs FOEs and bosses in the first 2 strata, ignore that skill later on. Optic thrust and the ones unlocked by it is where the power is at.
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>>192186018
Kenkaku, the new class in Etrian Mystery Dungeon 2.
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>>192187173
But is Deft Thrust really going to be sufficient aggro, even at max?
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>>192187181
Did they do a miracle or is EMD2 trash like the first title?
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>>192187181
Are they the obligatory squishy high-damage class of glorious nippon steel?
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>>192187181
>five on cover
>4 person team
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>>192187303
Yes.

>>192187259
Not enough changes, only slight upgrades.
It's the worst selling Etrian game for a reason.
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What determines Dodge, LUC or AGI?
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>>192187867
Both, LUC is less important than AGI
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>>192187867
2*AGI + LUC gets compared to the enemy's 2*AGI + LUC.
If it is lower, the dodge chance falls rapidely, if it is higher, the dodge chance climbs slowly.
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>>192187907
>>192188087
Thanks. So Dodge Fencers are better as Therians since they have all the AGI and some LUC?
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>>192188360
nene btfo
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>>192188429
>can make a teach therian fencer
>but not a ponytail therian fencer
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>>192188360
Keep in mind that if a dodge fencer gets status'd they're probably dead, so the significantly lower luck does hurt.
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>>192188087
>>192188360
the difference at level 99 is actually only 2 points
3 points at level 70
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>>192188360
Yes and no, lower LUC would make them more susceptible to pure bind/aliment skills that they cannot dodge
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>>192188620
Oh, well shit. Human it is, then.
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>>192188360
Without racial skills they are ever so slightly better since Earthlain has a massive LUC advantage and not that much of an AGI disadvantage.
With racial passives the gap widens a bit since both have the same amount of +LUC passives but Therian has one more +AGI passive.
For what it's worth Therian also has a pure dodge passive that is worth about 3%.

Therians also deal more counter damage but between Optic Thrust to blind and increase your dodge chances and what >>192188513 said they are about equal, I'd say.
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>>192179110
She is so cute!


Man, I have way too many pictures in my EO folder, it takes way too long to find anything
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>>192188716
That's why I name all pictures.
I also don't have that many.
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>>192188716
My wife
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>>192188665
>With racial passives the gap widens a bit since both have the same amount of +LUC passives but Therian has one more +AGI passive.
Do they? Both have forage and cardio, what's the third for therians?
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>>192165272
hey i don't post in this general but i just wanted to say this picture made me throw up
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>>192189129
Ricky often has that effect on people
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>>192189003
Third Eye.
It's not in the skill sim but it is in the ingame description.
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>>192189129
You are not the only one.
Those proportions are something else...
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>>192187181
>that tiny DFC with a bikini over it
>even the fucking monk has bigger tits than her
Oh yes.
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Is there a way to use Altar with Oracle Dance? Shit's too fast
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>>192188716
ive been saving every picture form the threads i like and stuff from booru i use to post and what not the past week onto my desktop and nearly every squares full of icons now, im going for 100% completion
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>>192189364
Altar is Bash damage anyways and I think it can not be infused by Reserve Magic.
So Oracle Dance has no effect on it.
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>>192189349
Not even DFCs are enough to convince me to buy EMD2.
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>>192189434
I hope you will finish your project soon so you can clean up your desktop...
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>>192189364
The actual hit has priority, so you can't outspeed it. It also wouldn't do anything even if you could.
On the other hand, bash element means that overexertion works on it, because overexertion actually increases bash/cut/stab damage, not ATK.
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>>192189456
Turn 1: Fireball
Turn 2: Altar
Altar is now fire+bash type. I already tested it

Also apparently Altar's even faster than Rapid Cannon so I guess no chance for Oracle
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>>192188916
I don't save images I don't like, and my art book collections from EO is located somewhere else.
I think I'll place them a folder of their game.
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Does Target Arrow increase chain damage or is it only for physical attacks? If it doesn't I think I'll sub my Rover and let my Shaman do all the healing alone.
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>>192189568
Since you actually have an altar warlock in front of you, can you clear up if you can multistrike an altar?
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>>192189691
Chains are physical attacks. They're stab + (fire/volt/ice) element.
Note that target arrow actually says "decrease enemy's defense against cut/stab/bash attacks."
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>>192189857
If the target is weaker to Volt than to Stab, and you use Target Arrow, will it still increase the Chain's damage? Or will it ignore the increase to cut/stab/bash damage entirely, as it's being evaluated as Volt?
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>>192189984
All buffs and debuffs work on mixed elemental attacks.
The resistance to elements only comes into play right at the end as a final damage modifier.

Even if your Chain Flame gets calculated only against the fire resistance (if that one is higher) it still counts as a stab and a fire skill for all things that increase or decrease those damage types.
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>>192189984
>will it still increase chain damage
Yes. When you use a hybrid phys + element attack it always works in your favor, you get all the physical + elemental buffs/debuffs even if the damage is only targeting the physical or only elemental resistance. Otherwise it would suck.
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>>192189736
>if you can multistrike an altar
no
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Is anyone using a dodge Fencer in stratum 4 and up? How's that working out for you?

Thinking about restructuring my party into dodge Fencer, 2x chain Fencer, Omnimancer and herald Shaman
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>>192189984
Yeah, defense debuffs are an entirely separate system from resistance debuffs. (Blame Atlus for this one.)
Defense debuffs are really just attack buffs and scale additively based on every element of the attack, while resistance debuffs are a multiplicative scale at the end that only applies the element with the highest multiplier.
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Are there item QR codes for EOV like in IV? I saw some on the jap website but it doesn't work on USA versions.
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>>192190239
Thanks anon.
Man, this game has been out in Japan for more than a year. Why is every single skill sim wrong in very significant ways?
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>>192189519
The only important things are all the art and doujins we'll get with her.
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>>192190509
>EMD2
>art and doujin
lol
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If a boss is weak to fire and I cast Dance Oracle, will it be even weaker to fire or is the state of weakness already a cap?
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>>192190753
Even weaker.
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>>192190348
Are there even still resistance debuffs in the game?
Dance Oracle is just a multiplicative debuff/buff like a charge effect - it will not create weaknesses for Altar or Life Siphon like resistance debuffs did in the past.
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>>192190873
Yeah, okay. Call it an elemental multiplier or something. The point is that dance oracle works very differently from other skills that interact with specific elements.
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>>192190674
W-Well at least that chest is so flat that it's already fappable enough in the official art
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Does target arrow+armor piercer stack

i assume not
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>>192191125
All buffs and debuffs stack but they stack a bit differently than in previous games
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>>192190873
Okay, question for the thread.
I have a fencer use chain flame and then a shaman uses a fire typed dance oracle, proccing the chain.
I'm hitting an enemy with 50% fire resistance and 125% stab resistance.
Does the chain get additional damage from the dance oracle?
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>>192191125
It does.
However every character has only three buff and three debuff slots so you can not stack those things infinitely.

Also interestingly, buffs and debuffs can cancel each other out - if someone has a defence buff and gets hit by a defence debuff, instead the buff just disappears. No matter how strong the buff and debuff were beforehand.
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>>192191125
You'll get a 40% damage increase from the armor piercer and a 30% damage increase from target arrow. These stack additively for a 70% damage increase total, assuming no other buffs or debuffs.
Why do defense debuffs act like this? Ask Atlus.
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>>192191194
Yes.
As long as the skill (or attack) has fire in it, a Dance Oracle that removed Blaze Prayer will increase the power of that skill.
And you will still hit the 125% resistance/vulnerability/damage multiplier.

Even if the enemy is immune to fire (which in EO means they take single digit damage from the random number added at the end) it will still work.
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>>192191337
>it will still work
And if you have a mixed elemental attack it will still work around the lower vulnerabilities, no matter how low those modifiers are.
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>>192191194
>>192191337
I should mention it only works like this in EOV because Dance Oracle is not actually resistance manipulation.

In earlier titles you had things that would increase these innate damage multipliers.

In your example:
50% fire
125% stab
Flame Fantasia (EO2U) 40% vunerability increase
would result in
90% fire
125% stab

Since fire is still lower than stab, it still gets ignored.

But Dance Oracle 10 is just "damage of the element of the Prayer removed times 1.5".
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>>192175557
15 I think?
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>>192175557
15, go crazy with the memes
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What level should you be for expert Hippogryph?

Shit's stomping me
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>>192191842
25.
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Are items considered a crutch?

Is your style or party non-functional if it cant complete hard bosses without TP restore items, etc?
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>>192191947
No.
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>>192189528
Is blonde Zodiac more popular the purple?
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>>192190753
It's like star drop, it doesn't actually cause a resistance change it just multiplies that element hit. That's why it's extra strong
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>>192192014
No. It's just that one anon this thread that really seems to love her.
But they are both cute.
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>>192191842
I think I was 14 for the first boss, 27 for the second and 36 for the third.
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>>192191842
I defeated it at lv29 first try
Dodge Fencer/Bind Pugilist/Musarao
Negromancer/Smoke botamist
Most of the fight he was ailed or bound and one-two punch+armor pierce was strong enough to break his guard. The fight starts getting bad when he starts spamming that insane party wide dive, but he starts doing it after you bring down his health a bit so save your binds for then.
Make sure you rest all your team before reporting the mission so you won't lose as much experience.
>Tfw necromancer got killed the very last turn so I had to report before resting or she would have lagged 1 level behind the rest of the team
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>>192192170
He telegraph exactly when he does the kick though, just defend
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>>192191947
Items and equipment are there to fill holes your party left open.
With subclassing and espceially with Grimoires you could fix those holes in other ways in the last few games but with Legendary Names we are back to building parties with weaknesses simply because you can not cover everything.
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If I have a party of 1x dodge fencer and 2x chain fencer I only have room for one buff, right? Wind Curtain, Chain Plus and then something like Amplify from a Warlock.
Wouldn't it make more sense to run a Herbalist for Smokeblight instead of a Shaman? Smokeblight or Dance Oracle should come up to the same damage, right?
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>>192192213
Does he? Is it like a message at the end of the turn or something? Then again I inflicted literally all ailments I had on him during the whole fight including ghoul paralyze so I might have missed it.
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>>192192295
Smokeblight has the downside of requiring the enemy to be ailed to work
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>>192192493
Smokeblight doesn't need an ailment, it just needs the smoke debuff
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>>192192295
>Smokeblight
Smokeblight needs a smoke debuff or else you only get the 15% damage increase.

It also does not work like Dance Oracle.
Dance Oracle is a 1.5 multiplier, Smokeblight is a normal defence debuff.

No buffs/debuffs: 100% damage
with Chain Plus and Smokeblight: 100% + 50% + 50% = 200% damage.
with Chain Plus and Dance Oracle: (100% + 50%) * 1.5 = 225%.
The more attack buffs/defence debuff or passives (including Chain Boost and Rapier Mastery) you have the better Dance Oracle gets.
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>>192192545
Really? That actually makes botanist even more useful
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>>192192746
I see. It might still be worth using over Dance Oracle for me simply because debuff slots are worth less than buff slots and I'm all out of the latter ones.
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>>192192545
So I can't even trust the ingame skill descriptions?
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>>192192948
The in-game should be right. It should say under the effect of a smoke skill or something
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>>192192964
"Most effective on enemies weakened by ailments" is the phrase. Seems pretty clear the translators thought it worked off ailments, not smoke debuffs.
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>>192193056
That's why I never play atlus games in English anymore
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>>192192014
>>192192136
Pink Zodiac is the best however.
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>>192192014
yes
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>>192193163
I give up on understanding the game's mechanics before release.
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>>192192014
How does the purple one look? I've forgotten all about her
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>>192192545
Are you for real? I did 3 whole strata wrong because some fuck can't translate for shit?
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>>192193576
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>>192193680
Gomen gomen
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>>192191275
Think of them as "increased physical damage taken" rather than "reduced defense".
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>nom
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>>192194136
sauce?
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>>192193758
Can confirm.
Negromancer vs toxipede
Flame bomb with no debuffs: 495 dmg
Flame bomb with smokblight lv1 no smoke: 523 (less than 10% bonus)
Flame bomb with smokeblight lv1+toxic smoke (not poisoned): 621 (around 25% bonus)
Thanks, ATLUS USA.
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>>192194365
Bonus: the toxipede managed to hit my lightweighted 10 deft thrust lv7 fencer with only sword equipped
>B-but muh speed!
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>>192194457
Is 100% evasion even a thing in this game?
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>>192194136
>"Oh no, I'm going to be late for the senate meeting!"
>runs through town with toaster in mouth
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>>192165272
What the fuck have you done to Raquna
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>>192194961
This is her true form
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Why did they have to remove Picnic, autogrinding on Basic is a pain in the ass.
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Question. How is Critical Strike chance calculated in EOV?
The skill sim for 1Kat Massyrow says that their crit chance is multiplied by up to 3x if Sword God is maxed out. Is it possible to get to 33% crit chance, allowing you to reach 100% with Sword God @ Lv 10? Does the higher LUC of the Earthlain mean that Earthlain 1Kats deal more damage than Therian 1Kats?
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>>192194517
Apparently, 1000 Evade means ~100% Dodge assuming no positive accuracy modifiers from the enemy's attack.
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>>192194998

Nonsense, everyone knows that Canadians turn into moose once they've reached maturity.
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>>192195092
Raccoona is a bit special
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>>192195007
I think with maxed out crit you have a 33% to crit since the base is apparently 11ish or something. You can't change the base though.

1kat damage core is still fine even if you aren't a crit lord if you just want a sturdy solid attacker
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>>192195006
>not using the masurao skill
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>>192195229
My issue is not getting slaughtered
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Just starting IV, any critical extra stuff/exploits I should know besides basics?
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>>192195318
The game gives you some like, catch up level-this-character to level __ items at the end of each stratum besides the first so don't go full crazy trying to grind up a new member right before you end one
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>>192195470
Good to know, I go mad like that
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>>192195276
git
gud
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>>192195158
>You can't change the base
In EOIV you were able to get your Sniper to 100% Crit Chance at 99r99. It'll be unfortunate if that's not the case in EOV.
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>>192195589
Im not sure what the literal rate is but just lock on 6+3 in the passive one makes him crit like almost always
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A normal looking guy in the day, DARK FLAME MASTER at nights
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>>192195589
>>192195671
Critical Hit Chance

LUCDifference = UserLUC - TargetLUC

If LUCDifference is less than or equal to -11, BaseCrit = 0.
If LUCDifference is greater than -11 and less than 42, BaseCrit = 15 + (15 * sin((LUCDifference / 20) - 0.75).
If LUCDifference is greater than 42, BaseCrit = 30.
CRIForgeCorrection = CRIForges * 3

If the user has more than 8 CRIForges, CRIForgeCorrection is capped at 24.
SkillCritCorrection = 0 + SkillCritBonus

SkillCritBonus is the sum of all crit bonuses. This includes:
Sniper: Lock On
Sniper: Bullseye
Sniper: Snipe Mastery
FinalCritChance = BaseCrit + CRIForgeCorrection + SkillCritCorrection + RandomNumber

RandomNumber is a random integer that can be between 0 and 5.

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Copy pasted from an EOIV gamefaqs guide. You can actually get WAY over 100% crit chance in EOIV. Looking at that value now, it may actually be the case that Earthlain 1Kats hit harder due to higher LUC and therefore higher crit chance, but we'll have to see if there are enough enemies in the game with high enough LUC for it to matter.
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>>192195724

banishment, this world
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>>192195589
>>192195779
I'll just scour the wiki then. For some reason I thought you couldn't change your since all the other crit buffs are gone
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>>192195724
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What is the chance that this will be available on the Freeshop the same day it is released?
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>>192195992
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Man what the fuck, why are my only options for warlock titty monster and titty monster?
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>>192196008
Just download the .cia bro
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>>192196095
The default elf is a qt with normal boobs.
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>>192196095
You could reclass the Necrololi or use a boy Warlock with a girl voice
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>>192196095
Your options are titty monster, slightly tittier titty monster, normal qt elf, sheep, fujobait, and reclassing a Necromemer.
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>>192196297
But the only necromeme worth using is also a tittymonster
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Hey /sqg/!
Rate my team!!1 xD

Pugilist for bind memes / 4Kat for lmao hell slash memes / dergon 4 da BUSTAH CANNON memes
Shaman on the backline for elemental buff memes and Dance Dance Oracle memes / Har-har-bringer (get it? ;P) for those super dank meme debuffs

plz give feedback, this is my first Etrian Odyssey game (Why is it even called Etrian Odyssey lmao!)?
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>>192196353
Excuse you
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>>192196487
Obviously not this one
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>>192196353
>zombie powders you
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>>192196479
>/sqg/
Stopped reading right there
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>>192196487
>literally a naked hoodie
How did she get past the censorships?
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>>192196265
>>192196297
Wait so when you retire you can keep the old portraits in this game? That sounds great. I went through a lot when I realized I had to leave my cute princess behind in favor of a monk for healing in EO3.
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>>192196479
>Hey
Didn't read further
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She's not lewd, she just doesn't know any better
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Which racial skills are worth grabbing?

Which are worthless?

How often does Gaia's Grace/Gift proc?

Is Black Mist worth it? What's the additional % for a 4 person ability?

Does Tri Shield negate 3 attacks to the entire party or 3 seperate attacks period? Is that as broken good as it sounds for single target boss fights?

Why in gods name would you ever pick up determination?

Are the "bit" stat up racial abilities worth grabbing? (Luck/AGI, VIT/STR, etc)

Making a new party for 3rd Stratum and I dont wanna waste any skillpoints, everyone is a bit low level wise.

Gonna give

Evade Fencer / DPS Harbinger
Healer Shaman / DPS Necromancer / Debuff Botanist

a go
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>>192196487
>>192196529
Man, I thought the pink scar was a huge blush when I first saw her sprite.
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>>192196550
>>192196597
>The "I didn't read" meme
Your memes fucking suck. I bet you use cheese strats.
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>>192196581
Yeah that's how reclass works. The issue is you keep your race and race stats so you cant do something like reclass a Nene ino a Warlock but other than that it's a fun system.

So in your case if you could do that in eo3 your monk would have princess stats which probably wouldn't be that bad I think.
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>>192196095
Lolis are dead, anon. We're Boobian Odyssey now.
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>>192196663
>Which racial skills are worth grabbing?
The ones that do things that you give a shit about.
>Which are worthless?
The ones that do things that you don't give a shit about.
>How often do the mana refund racials proc?
Frequently enough to be noticeable, infrequently enough that they're not needed and shouldn't be relied on. They're nice if you've got a spare point or two to toss their way.
>Is Black Mist worth it? What %?
It's considered to be one of the best Union Skills in the entire game, possibly even THE best. It doubles application rates.
>Tri Shield
Negates the next three instances of damage. If a boss only hits once, twice, or three times in a turn, it negates their entire turn.
>Why would you ever pick up determination?
It's a decent OH SHIT button. It only costs one skill point. I'm never going to use it, but I'm sure it'll come in handy for someone.
>Are the [FREE] stat racials worth it?
If you like the stats, then yes.
>DPS in a turn based game
Haram.
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>>192196703
>The "your memes suck" meme
Meme harder memeboy
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>mfw keep forgetting to summon wraiths when I enter the dungeon
>mfw keep forgetting to resummon after every fight
This wouldn't be so bad if I wasn't spamming poison bomb every fight
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>>192197278
I memely wish you memen't done that.
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Has the Mystery Dungeon 2 OST been uploaded yet?
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>Jenetta stopped giving me free ingredients

HALP
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>>192197614
Yes
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>>192197493
Why is drawfag comfymaster crying?
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>>192197625
Where? It's not in the pastebin.
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>>192196726
Yeah, I wanted to subclass her as a monk and move her to move her to the front line eventually since Monarch March doesn't scale, but even with the only slightly worse TP and TEC growth because of the terrible class skill she'd be significantly inferior to a monk/princess in every respect except armor. The redheaded onee-chan monk eventually grew on me but I never did fully recover from the trauma of my party's adorable mascot.

So how do racial and class stats combine? Do the classes apply flat modifiers or is it proportional to the race's base stats?
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>>192197493
You'll get away with it or won't have to sunmon them once you get the second name, don't worry
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Does a luma undub patch exist for EOU2? I could download the prepatched cia but I want to use my original cartridge
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>>192197623
You have too much food, make some fruit salad or something
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Has someone reverse engineered the JP DLC to work with the US version yet?
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>>192197815
Classes don't have stats attached, but second names give small stat bonuses
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>>192197961
>my original cartridge
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>>192198141
>le no one buys games meme
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>>192196142


...OK well next question then. What are the chances that the .cia will be available on the same day it is released?
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>>192198381
It's already available.
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>>192198381
Reading is a skill.
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>>192198381
what?
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Would you allow this curse gremlin to hex your daughter to sleep?
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>>192198548
I'd allow her to hex my dick to orgasm.
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>>192198548
That curse gremlin is my daughter.
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>>192198437
>>192198445
>>192198468


It came out 7 hours guys....I didn't know it was leaked....cut me some slack cmon....

Also it has 2 difference links, one that says Gateway only and one that says Citra only. What the hell do those mean
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>>192198548
Cute boy
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>>192197641
Shes playing EO Switch but forgot to hit x to bring up the map
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>>192197691
I saw it ages ago, but can't actually find it in the archives for some reason. Sorry man. I guess I lied to you
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>>192198359
>le everything is a maymay meemee
xD
I wish I had a dummy bunny 4Kat in my team IRL so I could McFuckingKillMyself after reading all of the meme memes on /sqg/
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>>192198787
That one can only be used on gateway and the other only on citra, are you fine anon?
>What do they mean
If you don't know you probably can't use them. Game leaked moonday as free region cia search for it
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>>192196479
Celestrian Shaman and Brouni Harbinger and you might even be able to make it through the game.
4kat will die to anything but for boss fights you can just aim to fully bind enemies and blow them up before they can move again.
Healing can be mostly done with items.

I know what you are going for but you are missing a Chain Fencer with no stab and barely any elemental damage or the ever crucial double animal Rover and Necro combo.
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I think I'm not even going to use leading blow o my pugilist, I'll just alternate between one-tw punch and lash out
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>>192194457
You can say this was a bug
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>>192198953
*appears behind you out of nowhere* HAAAAAAHHH CERTAIN DEATH ARMAGEDDON PUUUUUUUUUUNCH *erases you from existence*
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>>192198984

Look, I don't know anything about this stuff. I hacked my 3ds for Monster Hunter and haven't touched it since.

I looked on http://3ds.titlekeys.gq/ for the CIA but it appears that they only have the demo. Where else would I look? If its not on there, 3dsiso, or the freeshop, I am not really sure where else to look.
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>>192196663
>How often does Gaia's Grace/Gift proc?
30% chance to return 1 TP + 20% of the TP you just used.

>Are the "bit" stat up racial abilities worth grabbing?
Up to level 12 they give 3 points and they increase with level.
At 99 each of these passives is worth 10 stat points.
The highest natural stat (without racial passives or equipment) is Earthlain LUC with 163, the lowest Therian INT with 66, the lowest actually used stat is Therian WIS with 78.

Accessories usually max out at +30 to one stat (and some HP/TP).

So ten points is not bad.
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>>192199219
>>191878532
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>can't recolor dog
>one rover alt color has better dog but another has better dog fuckboy
Just why
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>>192197691
It was around the time EMD2 got released in JP. Threads were slower back then, try to find one that was active around the time.

A shame it didn't make it into the pastebin...
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So I'm planning to use Dragoon/Masurao/Pugilist, but I'm unsure what to do with my magic guys.
Is Botanist a good match with Warlock? Or what does Necromancer have nice synergy with?
And which second names for the magic-based classes?
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>>192197815
Classes don't change your stats at all.
A Therian Masurao will have the same STR and INT as a Therian Warlock.

Second names give static boosts that increase with level.
At 99 it's 48 points distributed between HP and TP and 48 points distributed in the rest.
Some classes only have two stats increased (4kat only gets STR and AGI), some have all stats except the offensive stat they don't use (Deathguard Harbinger and Evoker Necro iirc).
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>>192198042
Why would anyone go through all that work if the US DLC will be available on freeshop soon anyways?
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>>192198995
What I was going for was to make people read my post and feel physically ill. Did the repetition of the word meme not clue you in?
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Does fencer even need dodge or just slap some armor and chain around is enough?
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>>192199018
Leading blow can add a cockscrew no matter what, making a 5 hits that can be used with lash out
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>>192199352
You need to min/max your dog asthetics.
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>>192199352
>Using a rover fuckboii when you can UNLEASH THE BEAST
pleb
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>>192199565
You either go full dodge or full chain, no middle ground
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>>192199643
Why couldn't he just put that voice on a male rover?
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>>192199607
How can i have dog aesthetics if i cannot even recolor the goddamn dog?
>>192199643
I have masurao for unleashing the beast
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>>192199443
Botanist and Warlock is a safe and straight forward party. Nothing that will erase bosses but also nothing that gets you killed immediatly if you make a mistake.

If you don't have any other class in mind just go with them and look how they are performing.
You can give your Botanist weapons with good skills on them (like the Feather Staff formt eh second FOE) so they can do something in random encounters when they don't need to heal.

Sadly, Brounis suck as Smoke Botanists unless you have someone that can use mutliple of their debuffs.
But Healer Botanist has an overheal passive which is pretty helpful in boss fights.
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>>192199589
Yeah, that would be good, but I ended up maxing status attack up, so I won't have the point for all that until postgame
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Please help my team so far is Phantom Fencer, Master Masurao, Barrage Puglist and a Merciful Healer.
I can't figure out what to use as the last member. What would be good with this team?
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>>192199817
Dunno, Rover or necro so that the summon slots don't go unused?
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>>192199817
Something that occupies the summon line since its empty

Rover Necromancer or Dragoon
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>>192199802
Merciful Healer it is.
Warlock-wise, omnimancer or elemancer? I assume elemancer, but is that a good idea of Masurao will be paper-thin aswell due to 4 blades?
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What determines what attack types a Fencer can chain after? So far my Fencer chains only after an attack from either Rover or Warlock, an never after Dragoon or Botanist.
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>>192200157
The shame about going elemancer is that there will be no one else with int based skills to trigger that sweet 50% bonus damage
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>>192200198
stab and elements
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>>192200264
I like to pair a shaman with my Elemancer. Element buffs to enchant Clever Strike and then Dance Oracle will be redonkulous since it procs common magic
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>>192199018
>>192199589
And Lead Blow gives the skills used a multiplier of up to 1.5.
Usually your bind skills have 225% damage and Corkscrew 240%.
So a full Lead Blow is 150% + 3*337% + 360% = 1321% damage while Lash Out with 5 hits is 900% (or 720% with 4 hits).

It takes a lot of points but it's the big damage skill of Pugilist.
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>>192200331
What weapons types do stab damage?
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>>192200849
bows, fencer swords, certain skills like armor pierce
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>>192200849
Bows and swords used by fencers with Rapier Mastwry
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>>192198610
>her
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>>192200157
Elemancer has higher damage but as >>192200264 said their great Common Magic passive will get unused in your party.

Omnimancer can hit any and all weaknesses and their damage is not that much lower (in your party) - while their skills are weaker they have Spread Chant that on average adds more damage than Focus Chant and they can activate their 25% damage passive on their own.
You could aim for Life Siphon to get more Union and use Chain Blast more often to support your Pugilist.
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>>192200983
Thanks, I guess I'll give my Botanist a bow.
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>no villainous female voice for the necromancer
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>>192196571
She will offer services in exchange for personal gain.
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>>192201301
I'm surprised we even have stuff like Knightly and Militant instead of just high pitched shit and five versions of Sultry.

And I love my Professional Warlock.
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"Professional" should have just been called "cheesy".
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>tfw think some of the Male voices are pretty neat
>never get to use any as I always use female characters
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>>192201861
shit taste
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>tfw every single class in EOV is skill point starved
>tfw you'll never be able to max out all of the passive damage increases
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>>192202104
Yes, we know that you have. Now shoo, go away.
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>>192201781
Robotic.
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How do status ailments work in EO and V specifically?
When the skill calc says that, say, base poison chance is 50%. What modifiers does it go through?
Do enemies/FOEs have their own luck rolls to counter the PC's? Or is it just base chance +/-
enemy specific status weakness/resistance chance? How does luck influence the chance to successfully land a status ailment?
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>>192202169
How about you go away instead with YOUR shit taste
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>>192202142
There are just too many good skills, it's nuts.
Usually you run out of even remotely interesting shit halfway through the post-game and some classes (EO2U War Magus) even earlier than that.
But now you would need like 20 more levels (after retire) to get everything good.
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>>192202104
But all the males are ugly. The only cute ones are the Herbalist. I like to have one on my team as the only male and imagine he's gay.
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I only use loli necro because the scar on her face looks like blush stickers.
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>>192202142
Passives are shit anyway. They're just point dumps for when you're already maxed out on all the actually useful active skills.
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>>192202357
>ugly
Yes, we know that you probably are, and we didn't need confirmation, to be quite frank.
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>>192202357
>any therian
>hulk cestus
>dragoons
>ugly
(You)
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>Villaneous botamist
>Laughing like a maniac as he learns better ways to heal his team
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>>192196663
http://waifusims.com/EOV/skillSim.html

Look it yourself.
Not trying to be rude though, just giving you an useful tool
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>>192202296
>>>/u/
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Is getting poison skills to 5 worth it in the very beginning or better wait intil like end stratum 2?
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Is EO3U actually confirmed or are people just assuming the final 3DS game will be that?
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>>192202558
>Mad scientist potato
Damn son.
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>>192202675
We know nothing
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>>192202328
Yeah, I was just looking at Chain Fencer and I feel like I have to skip out on Multi-Stab and Resonance entirely because I don't have enough points available for it, and that also means completely neglecting Sylphscreen which is a really neat little passive.

>>192202476
See above.
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>>192202234
Inflictions formulas change from game to game.
It used to be dependant on TEC (in EOV terms it was INT and WIS combined) and LUC.
In EOU infliction was even more dependant on TEC while resistance more dependant on LUC.

In EOV it is mostly your 3*LUC compared to their 3*LUC - but Warlock, Necromancer and Celestrian skills compare 2*LUC + INT to the enemy's 3*LUC instead.

If you have more LUC infliction chance rises differently than in falls so it's hard to say "1 more LUC is x% more infliction chance".
You just want as much as possible is all.

Enemies also have resistances and weaknesses - you can see them on the reference page after you analysed them (either by using the Union skill Analyse, using the analysing item if that is still in the game or by killing one of them)
There will be an X for immunities, a triangle for resistances, an empty circle for neutralitly and a double circle for weakness.
For bosses a FOEs a modifier of 50% counts as neutral, for random encounters it's 100%.

Final infliction chance is base chance * LUC adjustment * enemy modifier * other modifiers (Status ATK Up passive, Shriveling Miasma, Botanist Smoke debuffs, Black Mist).
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>>192202989
>I can't have ALL the skills
Well, duh, then it wouldn't be a "build" if you had enough points to max out everything.
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>>192202642
Leave them at 4 until your TP can handle the increased cost.
But poison scales extremely well with the amount of skill points invested, way more than other skills.
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>>192203056
>ALL the skills
No points in Predict, Wind Curtain, Sonic Blade, Speed Up, Sylphscreen or Phys Attack Up, and minimal points in Rapier Mastery and Optic Thrust, and this is without using even a single point on Race Skills.
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>>192203012
Okay, so it does depend on the enemy stats, and overleveling would actually help with landing ailments.
How much do status weakness/resistance modifiers affect the status infliction chance? Is it +/-50% like for damage?
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>>192202812
This delicious slut has been with every anon that visits these threads.
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>>192203473
[cowbell clanks intensify]
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>>192203473
Is it because she don't have pants?
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>>192203325
Depends on the enemy - and even for damage it's not just 50% every time.
There are enemies that take 0%, 25%, 50%, 75%, 100%, 125% 150%, 200% or 300% damage from different things.

All the little symbol tells you if it's above or below what is seen as neutral.

Most things move in 25% steps when it comes to ailments - but most bosses have 10% against stun for example.
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>>192204078
Oh, really? I've heard it's +50% for weakness and -50% for resistance.
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>>192204026
that's part of how she lures 'em in
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>>192204134
Well, in the demo it does because enemies are simpler - or something.

Later on there are more variations.
There is even one enemy that takes 150% from fire and volt and 300% from ice which all get the same symbol.
Usually, if something is weak or resistant to all physical or all magical elements those percentages are the same for all three.
So they got extra fancy in EOV.
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>>192204134
Yeah, pretty much, if you're just talking about ailments and binds.
Normal monsters have a base rating of 100%, and bosses and FOEs have 50%. Weaknesses are then x1.5 base, and resistances are x0.5 base. (except stun, which is x0.2 for bosses.)
I'm sure there's exceptions because the anon before me seems to know what he's talking about, but what i've said applies to every monster I looked at in a quick skim.
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>>192204754
>enemy that takes 150% from fire and volt and 300% from ice which all get the same symbol.
What's even the point of viewing enemy info, if it doesn't actually help you? Same goes for the skill descriptions. Why can't they make the game mechanics more transparent?
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Golem 2hard.

Underleveled? (15)
Destroying bits and trying to burn torso, but he is a terrible sponge.
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>>192204913
EOV was a rush job for the devs more than the others
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>>192204939
stupid ricky
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>>192204939
>underestimating the golems
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>>192204913
I dunno.
At least they are slowly, ever so slowly moving in that direction.
You didn't even had that stuff in earlier titles.
Reference pages only exist since EOIV and they only had damage resistances.
And only since EO2U (the game before EOV) can you see ailment resistances and buffs/debuffs on enemies.
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>>192205012
I'm noticing it, 4 stratum enemies are mostly recolors
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>>192204939
How many small ones are able to walk towards you?
It should only be two.
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>>192205096
I miss my recurring enemies.
It is nice to have new and unique postgame bosses, though.
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>>192205201
I sealed off the side two, but the ones from the bottom keep coming, probably nothing you can do about it.

I assume my numbers are not high enough, one shots party members, And I can't kill a piece in a single turn usually.
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Jenetta says she wants Forest Honey, but even though I have some in my inventory, I can't give any to her. What's up with that?
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>>192205456
Explore the 3f map, you'll get your answer
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>>192205340
Ifcthey fuse with the big one they transfer all binds and ailments, which might be helpful.

>>192205456
It's foreshadowing for a quest from a later floor just like the beehive you can fin on the third floor.
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>>192205456
>>192205512
I HAVE YOUR FOREST HONEY RIGHT FUCKING HERE
JUST TAKE YOU STUPID BUNNY
I GOT IT FROM EGAR
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>if you see owlber just run
Yeah nice job telling me that after i wiped the floor with their entire population
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Tips for golem in V? He's destroying me with the fucking first move.

And also, there is any mod for etrian iii? Balanca patch or something like that.
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>>192205712
Defend reduces damage taken by 50%.
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How is turn order determined in EOV? Like in the previous games, with boots giving +2, gloves +1, etc?
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>>192206237
Something like that, yes.
Weapons got mixed around again.
Iirc coffins are fast for whatever reason.
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>>192206394
Necros double as healers and support class, so it's nice to give them faster act speed, so they could try and heal before the enemy finishes off your wounded.
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>>192206394
This series has so many hidden mechanics it should be criminal for a RPG.

>Skill data has to be datamined because "Damage UP" sometimes means +1% and sometimes it means +15%.
>No explanation for how much stats vs gear actually matters. Is +2 Vitality the same thing as +2 Defense?
>Boots give a bonus to AGI. (Let's not directly tell the players that they also increase action speed.)
>Gloves increase action speed too for some reason because why wouldn't they
>for who knows what reason you can see the ATK and DEF stats of monsters, but this info tells you absolutely nothing unless you know the complete damage formula AND know the base damage of all their attack skills
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>>192207091
my favorite part is the attack stat on your character screen that never at any point actually gets factored into damage formulas
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>>192207091
>Is +2 Vitality the same thing as +2 Defense?
At least in V this is exactly how it works.
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>>192202541
faggot
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>>192207091
>for who knows what reason you can see the ATK and DEF stats of monsters
To get an idea how hard hitting and resilient are they
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>>192207261
Which is kinda my point. In some games it is, in some games it isn't. And you would never know the difference unless you actually investigate this phenomenon.
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>>192207246
That changed in EOV - ATK and DEF are used in the formulas as is.

>>192207091
>No explanation for how much stats vs gear actually matters. Is +2 Vitality the same thing as +2 Defense?

In EOV STR is equal to weapon ATK while VIT is equal to armor defence. Same for magical stats.

As I said: they are getting there.
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>>192207385
(You)
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>>192207517
My anger is soothed a bit. Only took them six games to figure out that, wow, RPG players want their math shit to be transparent.
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>>192207937
Please understand.
EO started out as one as the best Wizardry-like franchises and it has since tried to recover from that.
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>>192207543
that kind of art just heals the soul.
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Can you sustain a party with both Animal Therapy and Gospel while exploring the dungeon?
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>>192207543
>Asahi the dog is here.
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>>192208380
Animal therapy alone is pretty good in early game.
Gospel is kinda weak though. Herald Shaman probably gets better with Holy Flame and in-battle healing passives.
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>>192186408
Nightseekers love curse just like every other ailment
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>>192206237
From the wiki
>Swords: +/-0
>Gauntlets: -5
>Staves: -5
>Katanas: -5
>Bows: +10
>Scythes: +5
>Artillery: -15
>Coffins: +5

>Heavy Armor: -10
>Light Armor: +/-0
>Clothes: +5
>Helmets: +/-0
>Gloves: +5
>Boots: +10
>Shields: -5
>Accessories: +/-0
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>>192209260
>Katanas: -5
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>>192209260
>Coffins +5
???
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>>192209481
Shocking truth
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>>192209351
nipon steel is heavy dude
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>>192209351
>4kat -20
>Light necro +25

>>192209481
tfw no subclassing for coffin dragoon
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>>192208380
Throw a dog in the mix (even without any of its skills) and you have what brought me through the demo.
Later on you will want some more skills however. Or at least the Herald Shaman passives.
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>>192209351
Katana users are historically heavy hitters in EO games, so it's only natural they have lower speed as a trade-off.
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>>192209260
wew no wonder potato dragoon is so ridiculously slow
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>>192209481
there are legs on the bottom
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>>192209481
They float. Just look at the sprites, necros don't have to carry anything
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Draqoona
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>>192209260
>Staves: -5
>Swords: +/-0
>Scythes: +5
>Bows: +10

Huh, so it's once again better if healers an supporters don't wear staves.

>Gauntlets: -5
What?
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What classes go well with 4kat Masurao, Barrage Pugilist and Broker Necro?
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>>192211649
>4kat Masurao
Shield Dragoon.
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>>192211830
can a dragoon and a necromancer work on the same team?
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>>192211896
You won't be able to use the bunker, the necro really needs all those three spots
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>>192211896
Bunkers are not mandatory for them.
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Just started EO3 on an emulator, as I can't be hassled with my old DS anymore, got like 20-25hours into it on that a long time ago, but restarting on my pc instead.
Anyways, I went with
Hop / Glad
Arb / Mage / Monk
Any important skills I should get early? Is there much difference between sword and club for Glad? And I know farming parties is a thing, is there an item that passivly give them xp, or should I just give the the quest xp from missions? And what's the optimal group for it? 4 farmers and a class that reduces enemy encounter?
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>>192212545
get a point in barrages early for the first stratum boss
nine smashes is butts and gladiators have garbo luck for the club disabling skills, just use sword
rush etheric charge on zodiac so you can shit out retarded limit skills
common skills > combat study, max that shit out for every bench member
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>>192212545
>Any important skills I should get early?
Arb has terrible Tp but Giant Kill is one of the best passives in the series - just get that until level 8 or so.
You might want Volt Barrage for the first boss for... reasons.

>Is there much difference between sword and club for Glad?
Swords are by far the better choice.
While clubs have the higher damage potential their best skill is super inaccurate.
Like "you will miss way more than hit" inaccurate.
Since Glad also has low TP you can get away with just raising Sword Mastery for a while and normal attacking.

>is there an item that passivly give them xp, or should I just give the the quest xp from missions?
Combat Study in the generic skill tree.
Per point they get 1% battle XP while at home - at ten they get 10% while a person in a five man party gets 20%.

Give them three points in it instantly and give them more points for every level up (you need to look after them for a while).
When it's maxed out you can finally invest into gather stuff.
Until then you can get money from the sea map, discovering a trade route gives a few hundred En.

>4 farmers and a class that reduces enemy encounter?
Yes. The class that reduces enemy encounters (or completely disables them) is Farmer. So just run five of them.
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>>192212932
>>192213102
Thank you! That is really helpful. And I was so tempted at going clubs for the confusion skill and such,
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I want this paradin to feel my paraDICK
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I still don't have any idea of what I want my team composition to be, so rate my potato instead.
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>>192213996
you sick fuck
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>>192214254
Those colors are all over the place
7/10 it has originality at least
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>>192214254
8/10 would eat
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>>192205712
Defend when he explodes. He does it like a turn after combining.
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There's no downside to taking a Shaman and reclassing them to Herba to keep the Shaman portrait right?
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>>192213837
Funnily enough Glads can actually land the confusion.
Their TEC and LUC is so bad it undermines the formula.

But they would have no big damage skill and since accumulated resistances don't fall off in EOIII they can usually inflict it once at most per boss fight.
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>>192214505
Yes. As far as the game is concerned a Brouni is a Brouni.

>>192214254
I like it/10
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>>192211649
Shaman to buff your 4kat. Hell Slash can use elements

Maybe a support reaper for shriveling and defense debuff since the 4kat should do all the movies
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>>192214510
does their low tech and luc actually fuck with the formula? im really curious about this
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You can't change a portrait in V after character creation right? Only recolor them?
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>>192215134
Only recolor
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>>192215134
I guess you can retire, starting at level 30, if you need to change portraits.
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>>192215197
>>192215317
Fug. I need to remake my puglist with a the generic portrait then. Not a fan of the class art.

Maybe I'll just make a bunny puglist instead since I'm starting over anyways and I'm still early in the game.
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>>192215437
>not liking tittylist

faaaaaaaaaag
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>>192215437
Somehow I get the feeling that there is no middle ground for the pugilist portraits. Either you love them or you just take a generic one.
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Is there any way to view the 3d models in EOV? iirc EO2U had a way of viewing them but I forgot how.
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>>192215541
>tumor lover
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>>192215876
Guilty as charged
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>>192215541
I don't like the way the hair looks in that action pose they're doing. That's my only real gripe with it.
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>>192216176
Thick Warlock thighs
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>>192216235
Would you have preferred these?
>>192216367
warlocc
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>>192216176
>tfw both female warlocks are tittymonsters
>tfw no warlock loli to go full EXUPLOSIOOON with
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>>192216539
>that short hair
All of my money
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>>192216539
That's better than the big ahoge mohawk that we got.
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>>192216624
I don't even want titymonsters or loli, I just want normal size tatas
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>>192216539
>dyke hair

Nah
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>>192216539
Make the tits smaller and we have a deal.
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>>192216846
Gay
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>>192216846
何が?
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>>192216827
These are normal sized outside of asia.
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>>192216827
To be fair, in her actual portrait, her tits are moderate size, compared to pugilist and necro
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>>192215776
In the Monstrous Codex under the book in the Y-menu.
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>>192216539
Why Himukai, why did you not choose these? If portrait modding is ever possible....
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>>192216539
Too manly, do not like
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>>192216894
big (brown) breasts are the future of EO
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When do you unlock legendary names in V? Getting tired of watching my potato miss every status.
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>>192217686
They better have bunny ears on them
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>>192217607
What, you want your gay little frilly girly stuff? Just leave the females with rough abs to the real men then
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>>192217701
After second stratum boss

Potato will always be a shitty status user
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>>192217686
I want that braid girl to bully my dick
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>>192217848
>Potato will always be a shitty status user
Then what are potatoes good for? Just healing?
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>>192217686
>3/4 grills are cts
Noice
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>>192217781
Go ahead, enjoy getting pegged by your dickless dude while a appreciate real women
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>>192217686
>legions
>regionsu
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>>192217917
Healing, and buffin(shaman). If you want to use the class for status, you have to reclass from another race, or something
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>>192218384
So my botanist potato is useless in a fight. What a shame.
Maybe I'll reclass to shaman, but I already have a Dragoon doing buffs.
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>>192218079
Blame English. Normal languages spell words the way they're pronounced.
If you want it to be read like "leejuns" then it should've been written so.
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>>192217917
potato dragoons are bretty gud
Also potatoes will always be the best for onahole
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>>192217917
They have terrible LUC for infliction.
Great WIS for healing and magical bulk, good INT for magical attacking, ok AGI and physical bulk.
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>>192218534
they can use a smoke skill and smoke rot to debuff enemy elemental defences, but they cannot do anything else besides healing
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>>192218534
Healer Botanists have an overheal passive which is a nice defence.
And INT-based equipment skills are ok with them.
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I bet pugilists would be nice to hug with the contrast between big soft tits and nice muscled body
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Anyone tried out Brouni warlock or Celestrian botanist?
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>>192219807
You are a man of taste
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>>192219807
Pugilist looks so nice in fanart.
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>>192219807
I want a puglist onee-san
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>>192219942
I want a tomboy pugilist osananajimi
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>>192219807
I wish old man dragoon had straight hair like that in the game.
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>>192220234
I want an older tomboy pugilist osananajimi with rabbit ears
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>>192219807
I gave mine a Tomboyish voice, according to the game, and she sometimes bark at the enemies while hitting them hard, wtf
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Do we have a seiyuu list for the character creation?
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>>192220407
>tomboys
>not barking
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How are dodge Fencers supposed to be built like?
I hear predict is shit, so should I just invest 3 skills points enought to unlock wind curtain, and everything else on Wind curtain, Optic thrust, Slyphid and Rapier Mastery?
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>>192222397
You should invest everything in optic trust and sylphid, then after you unlock your second name go for unburdened and deft thrust and whatever else you want to have there
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>>192222614
How good/realiable are Ray of Light, Pile on and Divine wind?
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Is Tri-Magic worth the point?
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>>192223134
You don't want to use Union to hit the enemies with raw damage, especially if that damage can easily be matched by class skills.
Chain Blast is way stronger since it's infliction rate is crazy high.
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>>192194530
>halfway to senate meeting
>runs into someone at bend in sidewalk
>looking at the big tiddy bunny red in the face when all the sudden the toast is ready
>it ejaculates the toast into his mouth and he begins choking with a weird plate sticking out of his mouth
>bunny doesn't know what the fuck is going on
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>>192223083
>Divine wind
Really situational
>Ray of light
Decent, but not the first skill to focus
>Pile on
What's this?
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>>192214783
This is the formula for EOIII and EOIV - not for EOV!

Ailment Score A = (2 * Attacker's LUC + Attacker's TEC) - (2 * Target's LUC + Target's TEC)

If A is less than or equal to -18, then X = Skill Accuracy
If A is greater than -18, but less than 22, then X = [{1.17 + 0.83 * sin(0.07 * A - 0.20)} * Skill Accuracy]
If A is greater than or equal to 22, then X = 2 * Skill Accuracy

Infliction Rate = X + a random number from 0 to 9

Now, if you try to calculate infliction rates for an ailment score between -17 and 21, you might find that it gives a multiplier of 1.14 to 1.18 to the base infliction chance and wonder what the fuss is about.
This is because you are calculating in degree - EOIII is calculating in radian (there are other formulas that also use sin - and they only make sense in radian).

And with radian the infliction chance (before taking enemy resistances or passives into account) for an ailment score of -17 with Crushing Blow 10 is a measely 17% - 26%.
But for an ailment score of -18 (which means even less TEC and LUC than the enemy) it suddenly jumps to 50% - 59%.

EOIV uses exactly the same formula - but it calculates in degree.
Which makes it still a strange graph but not as nonsensical as in EOIII.
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Is lingering scent a buff?
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>>192224345
>Pile on
>What's this?
Not that anon but it's Lure's JP name.
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>>192224345
>What's this?
"This turn, after dodging, all allies in the same row will follow-up with an attack on that enemy."
>Decent, but not the first skill to focus
Ok, then what are some of the skills I should focus on? Aside form unburdened.
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>>192224542
It's a buff on the Botanist, yes.
It runs up to 9 turns which is pretty long.
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>>192224746
Oh just on the Botanist, that's alright then.
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Why do you need to pay more for your room when you get stronger?
You don't take up more space, nor do you wear down the furniture faster, you're loyal customers, and as you become famous you're even free advertisement for the inn.
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do the dogs and ghosts get sprites? i can't find any pics of them. what do they look like?
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>>192224831
more musk
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>>192224831
because you can afford it
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>>192224965
Wraiths are a mystery.
The dogs and hawks can only be seen somewhat in Rover sprites.
They themselves have none.
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>>192225093
that is extremely gay
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>>192212545
Put one point into each elemental barrage, and not a single point more. It'll serve you well throughout the game.

For the Gladiator, use swords, get a point in Rush and then aim for that one skill that hits a lot.

For the Hoplite, get Line Guard and Bodyguard, but then put all your points into the elemental guards until they're all maxed (especially if you want to do Sea Quests), afterwards max Line Guard.

The Zodiac benefits greatly from Etheric Charge, and while you're at it, Dark Ether will be very useful too.
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>>192225025
>posts a non-innkeeper
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>>192224965
There's a generic ghost enemy just hanging around later so it's probably that
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>>192225398
>>posts someone who affords things
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>>192224786
Wait, no - I am mistaken.
Shared Nostrum is only on the Botanist.
Lingering Scent is on everyone.
However it always copies the last Herb skill recieved, not the one used on a given turn.

So if you use a full party (or two line targeted) Refreshing or Freeing Herb and no other Herb afterwards allies will always cleanse their ailments or binds at the end of a turn as long as the buff is running.
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>>192224831
>nor do you wear down the furniture faster
Maybe your guild doesn't.
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>>192225398
I'd sleep in Erie's inn, if you know what I mean. By which I mean I want to marry her and share a home with her. And a bed.
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How do I skill dodge Fencers and what do I even do with them? I guess I can't just attack with Deft Thrust because it outspeeds my chains so I do I just cast Divine Gust and Phantom Swords all the time?
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>>192225526
do you have a pic?
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>>192225679
I'd also learn to spell Edie's name right, then.
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>>192165272
canada looks pregnant
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>>192224831
You get better and better rooms.
Level 1 adventurers sleep in the backyard on the floor.
Level 2 adventurers are allowed to press themselves against the outside walls of the inn.
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>>192225784
very scary open with caution
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>>192225937
SPOOPTOBER WARNING
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>>192225937
Jesus fuck anon, this is a SFW board.
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>>192225756
Chains have priority.
They go before anything that doesn't have priority itself but after Union skills.

So the Chain Fencer will have the Chain ready before Deft Thrust activates.
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>>192217402
Holy shit, I was having an actual retard moment. Thanks.
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>>192226131
Oh nice. How do Predict, Wind Curtain and Divine Gust work then, when do I cast what?
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>Heavy Ferule

>The hard part of the mushroom, on the tip of its "leg". Heavy, and commonly thrown away.

Are we carrying around giant mushroom dongs?
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>>192226445
not everything's gotta be a dick joke
unless it's those 6th stratum enemies
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>>192226380
Predict goes even before Chains.
Wind Curtain has 40% speed between 1 and 4 and 120% speed at 5. So it's never too fast.
Divine Gust has a 150% speed modifier at all levels so it's a bit faster.
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>>192226445
Because someone is paying money for them.
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>>192224831
I always imagined it as your guild huddling together in a shabby room in the beginning but at you become richer from your trips to the labyrinth you progress to more luxurious rooms and services like premium bathhouses and weapon maintenance. This is also why when your gathering team rests it's cheap as fuck, because the money is handled by the main party and they don't care for the non-uniquely named gatherers.
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>>192227065
>not giving each of your gatherers intricate backstories and interactions
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>>192227213
They should be thankful that I denote their races with letters in EOV and gave them appropriate portraits. Past ones weren't so lucky.
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>>192226910
No I meant that the skills appear a bit redundant, especially Predict. I'm not sure where to put my points and what to regularly use during combat.
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I'm approaching the end of the game, and this is making me sad. I'm going to miss my party so much.
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>>192227314
>gathering party in V
is it really still necessary?
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How do I get easy money?
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>>192227681
Prostitution.
(Pretend that this post has a lewd picture, okay?)
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>>192227681
Buy the DLC
(Pretend that this post has a picture of Edie, okay?)
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>>192227659
I don't want to waste points and I don't have a potato anyway.
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>>192227808
I can pretend, but it would be much better if it had one
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EOII I have no idea, I'm playing it right now and I sometimes don't even have enough money for a Warp Wire or an Inn and need to kill some lower-level enemies to scrape together enough loot to sell.

In EOIII money is probably the easiest to come by, with fishing and whaling in the early-game, and Farmer (later Ninja/Farmer) squads passively levelled through Combat Training later on.

In EOIV money was never a problem for me either since there are plenty of gathering spots everywhere, you can sell all the food you collect with your airship, and you don't need to retreat and heal as often as in other games.
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>>192227934
By your powers combined.
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>>192227808
>>192228080
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>>192227808
I'm having a hard time imagining one. Perhaps you can post one instead?
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>>192227808
Which race/class would make the best prostitute?
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>>192228226
Therian of course
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>>192228206
>he sniped me
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>>192228226
Nene
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>>192228226
shaman
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>>192228380
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>>192228226
Brownies, imagine the premium prices you could get from pedos
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>>192228226
tittymancer
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>>192228226
Tutelary Forest
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>>192228216
>still carrying his drive blade
Always prepared!
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>>192228206
I would buy a lewd Edie DLC, but for now I'll just make do with the sauce
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>>192227315
Oh.
Well, Predict is useful for FOEs that only have single target attacks - like the Toxipedes in the demo.
Outside of that it will not help your team against line or party attacks and if your Fencer gets attacked multiple times they will likely die since the evasion falls off so fast but the damage multiplier increases.

Wind Curtain is useful since it stays around for a few turns. Pretty damn expensive even for 14TP but heavy physical bosses can be made way less dangerous with it.
Still situational.

Now Divine Gust, while just as expensive at max, can actually be useful.
First - put someone that is not your Fencer in the first partly slot (top left position) and your Fencer in the second slot (top middle position with three people in the front, top right position with two people)
The person in the first slot should be an Earthlain or Therian if possible with some AGI investment so they have some evade on their own.
Second - use Divine Gust and Tri-Shield
This will protect you against party attacks

Party attacks travel from the top left party position to the bottom right position.
So if you are lucky (or not unlucky) your first party member should dodge, reducing the dodge chance of Divine Gust - but it should still be enough for a Dodge Fencer with Lightweight to also dodge.
And the rest of your party is protected with Tri-Shield.
Since Tri-Shield only depletes three union Gauges, you can repeat that up to three times if you have so many Earthlain.

Still not fully reliable and a bit cumbersome but it's one of the ways a Fencer can be used to defend the entire party.
Dodge Boon might even allow you to reload another Tri-Shield if you use an Earthlain Fencer and let them activate the first Tri-Shield.
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>>192227808
Anon!
This is a SFW board!
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>>192228789
https://exhentai.org/g/332056/6bb46cbe23/
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EO5 stratum 1 boss kicking my ass.
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Fuck the dragon zombie and his gay ass blinding breath that also explodes whenever anyone uses a fire attack
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>>192228162
Struggle with a Hexer until the first boss, get its conditional drop by killing it with poison, have enough money for the time being.
Make your way to the tenth floor to cause the first boss to respawn and now you can farm it for infinite money.
It takes 14 days to respawn so make a level 1 character and let it sleep at the inn 14 times (you safe money with a dedicated low level sleep character - I suggest you call her Sleepy.)
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>>192228226
Necros.
If they are dead or undead they are sturdy so you can go to town.
If they are alive and just paint themselves like that they are into kinky shit which is almost as good.
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>>192228226
Obviously
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>>192228921
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>>192228742
>implying is not a condom
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>>192229164
level up
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>>192228226
Don't ask questions like this, please
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>>192229687
What's wrong with asking questions about the sex life of the 5 cute girls in my party?
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Does Imbue increase Int or Luc? The skill calc says Int but in game it's Luc and the JP wiki also says it's Luc.
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>>192230131
don't trust the skill calculator, it's incredibly wrong about so many things
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>>192230131
just save, upgrade then reset
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>>192229526
good doujin series
Hypatia would be the better prostitute though
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>>192230131
Tested it - it's LUC.
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Should I play III after I'm done with V or should I wait for the untold
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>>192230692
>wait for the untold
what untold?
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>>192230864
the last game on the 3ds will be untold 3, r-right?
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>>192230692
It will be a massive step back in many ways - I hope you like retro gaming.

There is no 3 Untold confirmed (just another entry... probably... maybe... hopefully...) so even if they make it it might take a while until it get released in JP.
And localisation might take even longer.
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>>192230935
Right

>>192230692
Play 3 anyway. Then you'll get to appreciate (or hate) the changes
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>>192219807
this is lovely
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Touch Nene.
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>>192219807
where are my pugilist doujins
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NO!
What the fuck is this shit?
I avoided any sort of information about EO5 so I can discover literally everything about the game for the first time while playing and what the fuck is this shit.

Fucking gay elvs? Lunarians from 2hu? And Anime Hobbits? NO!
Fuck that. I just want my humans. I fucking hate it. And then classes are restricted to the fucking races. I mean I guess it makes sense but FUCK I need to have a fucking Hobbit as healslut in the team and atleast one piece of shit nigger elv to have some sort of magical damage.

Nah, uh uh. Fuck that shit. Give me Humans that heal, humans that do magic shit. I'm going back to EOU2.
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>>192232012
inappropriately
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Is it generally bad to put gather skills on your main party so you don't have to make a gathering party?
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>>192232309
just alter class your humans into botanists and gas the elves
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>>192232309
If you aren't just shitposting I want y to know you can make any race any class.
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>>192232442
Wait.
What?
How?! TELL ME
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>>192232576
just beat the initial mission
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>>192232576
Play the game for more than 5 minutes
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>>192232609
That still means I have to stick with the average FF XIV party for a coule of minutes.

But hey, atleast there is a light shining at the end of the tunnel.
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>>192232309
>>192232576
After the tutorial mission you can Alter Class - any race can be any class.
Their stats don't change however so humans suck at healing and magic.

However, there are DLC portraits that can be used for any race. All of them are humans.
Pic related - plus blonde Gunner.
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>>192232309
>I need to have a fucking Hobbit as healslut
C A S U A L
A
S
U
A
L

just take a doggo and get on with it fuckboi, instead of retreating safely into Casual Odyssey 2 Funtold: Electric Boogaloo. 10F here and I have not used a potato in my guild for one fucking second.
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>>192232756
Shut the fuck up
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>>192232756
DLC portraits can (and must) be used at character creation.
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>>192232309
Imaginary racism is funny
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I don't know how it happened but I hope all the DLC gets leaked day one like SMT4A's did
Fuck that staggered release bullshit, Japan got everything except FM music day one, and that's presumably because the FM set wasn't ready
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>>192232779
What the fuck is that on the left?
The standard Shonen Self-Insert for the upcoming anime on TV Tokyo?
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>>192233286
Say hello to isekai-kun
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>>192233286
Yeah, it's literally a generic Isekai protagonist portrait pack.
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>>192233041
Elv genocide best day of my life.

Remove long ears.
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How to beat adventurers?
I'm playing as Hippogriff. I try to get as many as I can with one swipe but they can use that gay revive and when I try to block and heal they just spam ailments and binds. Should I try reclassing to Undead King or Driad?
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Looks like the ebin memeing /v/ermins are finally here, took them long enough to find about the leak
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what is with japan's obsession with school uniforms? it doesn't even belong here, it's a fucking fantasy universe, school ... i mean, what?!
it makes sense in persona. they're CURRENTLY going to school.
but what is this shit?

i thought only westerner retards worshipped dumbass school uniforms, but i guess the japanese do too, even though they have to wear them and they lose any semblance of exoticism.
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>>192233645
That's what you get for not investing into the foe summoning skill, might as well rest now.
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>>192233764
I don't believe you.
Everything is completely normal
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>>192233798
Fuck off, school uniforms are great regardless of if they belong or not
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>>192217686
>big brown breasts
das it, man, das da stuf
ay mamasita
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>>192233492
Oh wow.
I'm really getting fucking tired of that Otherworld bullshit.
And if you do it, atleast make an office worker or someone from the policeforce. Or literally ANYTHING more interesting than a highschool freshman.
I mean come on, FUCK. You already create this magical world with its own races, flora and fauna. History and future story.
AND THEN YOU JUST THROW A FUCKING HIGHSCHOOL STUDENT INTO IT?
Holy fuck, I guess the creative department have all jumped in front of the Shinkansen after they were forced to make DLC portraits and someone scraped this shit through.
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>>192233764
This thread was top quality until you posted.
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Why are annoying memers posting in etrian general all of the sudden
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>>192234098
I don't get it, who are you referring to? The guy who willingly lived under a rock? Try to be understanding
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What's a decent party that includes 4kat and necro?
I want to use a different team than I used in the demo.
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>>192234098
because people keep getting redirected here because of the leaks
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>>192234098
everyone's getting hype for release
also v thread(s)
also apparently game leaked which odds are brings in "I hacked my 3ds and won't shut the fuck up about it" people
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>>192234225
elemancer, barrage, cannon
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>>192233798
it's DLC, who gives a shit
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>>192233798
They have a word for "death by overwork".
They play games on their portable console while riding overcrowded trains to and from their 13 hour shift (only 8 hours are paid, of course - you are just expected to work longer).
The last time they had any free time or felt like humans was in high school so they glorify that time and insert it into everything.
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>>192233798
It's just a bunch of kids who got isekai'd in Etrian Odyssey's Universe
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>>192234098
Just shut up and post Ricky
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>>192232779
So what the fuck is black hair holding and what sort of class does a guitar(?) wielder spec into?
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>>192234225
Dragoon to protect your 4kat before you have 9999 HP Wraiths (if you want to use those).
Barrage Pugilist if you want to use Hell Slash since they can cause 5 chases.
A Herbalist to keep your Dragoon alive.
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>>192235538
>9999 HP Wraiths
How
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>>192235764
Zombie Powder tries to instantly kill an enemy and creates a Wraith with its remaining HP.
There is a FOE in the 4th stratum that is weak to instant death with over 10k HP but allies are capped at 9999HP.

It's cheesy and you would need to walk everywhere but they can be used for Fair Trade to deal 9999HP damage or for Fierce Shield.
Even though Wraiths take a ton of damage they can block quite some hits with so much HP.
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>>192236406
so that pretty much breaks then game, funny how they overlooked this
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>>192236526
Shh, they'll get mad at you. Some guy posted yesterday that he had cancelled his pre-order when he found out about this game breaking garbage and the shills here (see: every eog poster) wanted to sell the game so bad they deflected and spammed reaction images and pretended it's not a real issue.
Reminder end game bosses have only 30,000 health, this game breaking shit makes them impossible to lose to.
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>>192235152
Kendo stick.
The guitar case is actually a coffin case. Her's is a smaller version with a longer blade for isekai travelling
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>>192236725
You can just, you know, not use it
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Is there an item àla the ones at the end of the later sttatums in EO4? Where you'll get a level-up item?

In EOV
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>>192232779
>DAHK FUREIMU BUREIDU
oh boy
I hope that those end up being optional aside from any other bonus, "lore-friendlier" portraits.
Probably won't though.
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>>192236526
Eh, there are way more broken things in the game.

>>192236725
>Some guy posted yesterday that he had cancelled his pre-order when he found out about this game breaking garbage
And he totally, actually had the game pre-ordered - super promise.
He totally wasn't a troll that just wanted to shit in the general because he is so damn clever.
>Reminder end game bosses have only 30,000 health
Also you can deal a billion damage in one hit if you don't know anything about the game but pretend to do so.
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>>192237089
10/10 grammar
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Any kind anon wants to start the magic project of modding portraits? Pretty please?

>Imagine have disponible all the portraits of the series
>Make the ultimate team: All the blondies MC
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>>192237104
Those are DLC portraits.
In addition to those there is the blonde Gunner but that's it.

The actual ingame portraits are a not more fitting.

>>192237089
After the second stratum you get 5 scrolls that each bring a party member to level 20 (although your party will be around 25 at least).
That's it however.
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>>192236725
if you're using two necros you're better off just grave dancing for 5000% damage per turn while your three other members can do whatever they want
games more exploitable than 4
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>>192237154
I thank you!
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>>192237089
that is one cute Fort-chan.
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>>192237389
Post more cuties
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>>192237194
>dat spanglish
how horrid
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>>192237089
I want to breach this fort's defences.
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>>192237474
Fuck you, the idea is neat.
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>>192237539
You need to work your magic for that.
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>>192237449
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>>192237194
How about you do it
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Honestly?
I would have wished for more older people sprites.
The dragoon one and the rabbit grandma are top tier.
An entire team out of old veteran explorers. Now that would've been rad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96ogo6N3stQ
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>>192237439
For-chan is always cute, even when she is being brutally raped
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Do elves make good healers and ailment casters?
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>>192237560
nah
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>>192237648
I don't even know from where to start
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>>192237739
They have the second best WIS for healing and the second best LUC for infliction.
But they are by far the slowest race so you have to keep that in mind.
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>>192237739
They good at both, but not as good as Earthlains for aliments or Brownies for heals, but they still make the best smoke botanists
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>>192237718
What's that in the bottom left? I can't tell because of the censorship.
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>>192237657
>rabbit grandma
>top tier
eww, no, just no
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>>192216176
>>192217050
I don't really like the titties but I'm still taking her for the delicious thighs and those sweet, sweet armpits. She has a pretty great design overall, even if it could have been better.
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>>192237843
>>192237854
Well that's good to hear. I'm tired of my potato missing those blinds and poison clouds.
Time to respec.
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>>192237917
She is great by virtue of not just being a headswap like most other portraits. Himukai got real lazy for V
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>>192237917
>t. i only put girls in my team that I would fuck while I self insert as male fencer

Fuck off m8
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Which one of you anons is this?
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>>192237657
Fuckhuge Cestus with white hair looks pretty old.
Short haired male Warlock is also pretty ragged.
And Teach is of course older than Methusalem.
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We all know that bobcut fort is best fort.
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>>192238058
Me on the right.
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>>192237879
We'll never know
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>>192238058
I don't deserve such a blessing...
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>>192238091
>Teach is of course older than Methusalem
lmao
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>>192237657
I love old people in EO, I never use them, but I always apprecaite them. I do wish oldgoon was a bit thiner in the hari, it's a tad too fabolous.

>>192238131
I still haven't been able to chose, eyepatch got some great art, but bobcut looks so annoyed, and i love it.
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>>192238131
She has been there for three games now, housewifing her way from Armoroad to Tharsis to Iorsys.
Always reliable and always strong.
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so I was playing etrian odyssey II with the following party
Z-S-H
P-N
and I was doing the tactic of spamming dark ether with the ninja on the front row for a constant free casting of meteor+five ring sword+line guard
It worked, but needless to say it was fucking boring and I replaced the hoplite with a Wildling to add more damage and a way to spread binds

And I think I fucked up.

Anyway, for now what's the best subclass for a wildling?
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>>192238370
Yea, I knew she was in EO3, but three other games? EO3, EO4, but what's the third? I'm so confused. Unless you mean Bobcut Dragoon in EOV in which case yes I totally did give my her the right hair color and everything.
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>>192238370
>>192238536
oh fuck, never mind I didn't see Iorsys sorry. I'm lying in bed with my glasses off on my phone.
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>1kat / Impact pug
>Babysitter Dragoon / 420 Herbalist

I'm trying to find a 5th.
At first I went with another pug (barrage) so I could get some binds and buff my other pug with Overexertion but I've only just noticed it has a 0.4 speed multiplier so I don't even get a free turn on it. The second pug feels shoehorned when I don't even get a free turn on my impact pug because of that slow ass skill.
Any ideas?

PS : Warlock fits anywhere but feels really weak compared to what my other characters are capable of.
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>>192238429
You retired the most important class in the game for a gimmick class?
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>>192238845
yes

you can't imagine how fucking boring the game had become, I swear to fucking god that wasn't a game anymore, just a chore
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>>192238429
Wildling gets worse as the game goes on because accumulated resistances don't fall off.
Their damage is low and sooner than later bosses will be immune to everything.

Their TEC is not completely horrible so maybe they can to something with a Zodiac sub?
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Hold on.
Iorys is the starting town in EOV.
IOSYS is the group behind the song FOE!

Coincidence?
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>>192238223
...Huh Which anone is this?
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>>192239057
Didn't know the wildling was that bad, just when I though I could have a way of dealing binds, I might change it into an arbalist for that sweet front mortar

my only issue then would be to level it, since it is going to be grossly underleveled compared to the rest of the party
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>>192239057
I know this isn't what you mean, but I find it funny that your comment makes it sound like the stratum 5 boss will be immune to ailments because it's benefiting from all accumulated resistance from the stratum 1-4 bosses.
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>>192239128
Hopefully - if not it was a localisation meme since the town Aeolis in JP.
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>>192238954
Wilding is completely worthless in EO3 since everybody important does AoE damage and has a shit ton of resistances. You could have just left one at the guild with combat study 10 if you wanted to use one.
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penetrad a la Jenetta
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>>192239268
the "fuck you" was more aimed at your implication of how crucial tanks are when I never needed one to complete any other EO game
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>>192239221
I can see them use that mechanic for some inter-linked 6th Stratum FOEs...
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>>192239128
EO5 ALSO HAS BUNNY PEOPLE
IOSYS MADE A SONG ABOUT UDONGE CALLED OVERDRIVE
UDONGE IS A TOUHOU
COULD THE BUNNY PEOPLE BE ACTUALLY FROM TOUHOU?
ZUN CONFIRMED THE GAME ACTUALLY TAKES PLACE IN GENSOKYO DURING THE STORY ARC OF LoT2 HOLY FUCK SO DEEP
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>>192238697
Cannon Dragoon or Harbinger
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I thought that this series was supposed to be this ultra hostile and unforgiving dungeon crawling, but I doesn't feel like that at all, since you can return to the town and real with the press of a button, so you never really feel caught off guard and forced to fight for your life. A shame
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>>192237194
If people can't crack the portrait romfs for EO4 & EOUs what makes you think they can crack EOV's
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>>192239551
>ultra hostile and unforgiving
Not really. I mean I'd say it's harder than say the average Final Fantasy game, but there are much more unforgiving games out there.
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how the fuck can I level a character that is 40 levels behind the rest of the party
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inseminate jenetta's breasts/spoiler]
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>>192239551
Yes, yes. You can return to town anytime, so why not keep exploring a little bit longer, dear?
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>>192238697
Necromancer has another defence debuff to increase your damage and their poison can help with clearing encounters quicker since much of your damage is single target.
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>>192239551
It has a reputation for not pulling punches with difficulty and streamlined design, not for being hostile and unforgiving. Though of course that's changed in the past few games. It's not 1994 anymore.
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>>192239757
>>192239757
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When does Necromancer start becoming fun?
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>>192239551
>ultra hostile and unforgiving dungeon crawling
Nah, it just has involved fights that are not won by brainlessly smashing the A button.
Some people just love to overhype any difficulty...
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>>192239895
When TP become less scarce.
Or once you use Poison Bomb for random encounters the rest of your party can not kill in one turn.
At least I enjoy melting enemies.
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>>192239754
I'm running smoke herbalist specifically for the poison already. I have a dragoon that's using 1-2 summon slots most of the time so necro wouldn't work too well.

>>192239479
How's cannon dragoon in practice? the damage multipliers look nice on paper but my regular dragoon did abysmal damage (I wasn't using him for damage but still, it was really bad).
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>>192232779
>no glasses alt for the schoolboy
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>>192239653
You can extract them, but not pack them back, at least with a working result.
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>>192240350
the boy has the least changes of all
aside from the sword color, he may as well just be a custom palette
sexism(lazy himukai)
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>>192240206
Dog Rover has arm bind, leg bind and a defence debuff.
But that might be too much support.

You have neither enough buff slots for a Shaman nor enough debuff slots for a Deathguard Reaper...
Maybe you can not push your Impact Brawler further - so an Omnimancer has access to arm binds while Amplifier can help your weed elf'S Smoke Bombs.
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>Zombie Powder is broken because you can carry ghosts up 10 floors just to use it on one boss and have to avoid every FOE because you don't have enough ghosts to spare

Or you can just use buster cannon and do more damage than 3 ghosts together all the time
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>>192243454
what do people mean when they say you have to carry ghosts? do you have to collect them from a certain location? you can't just summon them?
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>>192243856
The main consistent method of generating high hp ghosts to exploit equivalent exchange is by abusing the instant death vulnerability of a 4th stratum FOE. Ghosts disappear when returning to town and there's no floor jump because this isn't a baby game for fuckers.
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>>192244034
hmmm okay. what about this buster cannon? how were you able to do that damage?
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>>192244181
not exactly sure but i'm guessing it involves overexertion + dance oracle + other random buffs / debuffs (high ground + armor pierce, possibly amplify / target arrow depending on party comp)
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>>192243454
>Hitting an FOE so hard they start to turn into a map.
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Is there any reason I shouldn't strengthen my weapons if I have the mats for it? It's not like it costs any money.
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