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MY ELDRITCH TRUTH edition

Has never awakened above ground >>197689662

>New players read this finish the story mode offline:
https://i.imgur.com/1OynzXF.png

>/bbg/ Resource, Builds & Mechanics Guide:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TlAjZSvmE979gbayTvpioT72n5A7_bUjMNCLuOatJTQ

>DLC access:
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html

>Build planner:
https://mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne

>AR calculations:
https://pastebin.com/zGphv4fF

>Chalices:
-Guide to unlock FRC chalices for spelunks & fight clubs: https://i.imgur.com/KgVUkyd.jpg
-Gem farming, lost/uncanny weapons, and runes spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1syKnSKflHbFiGY4pXkfIeXoMa2Lp9X1aXyme2qaTen4
-2nd gem farming spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q9enxffA3dyKGu6IVg-P4IVgmKSUYSP9UOOiThHmPIU
-How to summon/invade in a chalice: https://pastebin.com/mjRU01XK
-SFRCs & FDs: https://i.imgur.com/yRxbVsN.png (if you want early T3 runes, wheel, chikage, or burial blade)

>PVE & PVP - Spelunking/sinister chalices:
-Spelunks happen. Join em. Leave bell-ringing women alone for invaders.
-Sinister chalice race on Friday at 6pmET/11pmUTC (if enough show, spelunks otherwise)
-Race rules & signup: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PIWNIOpp2j3Hc7XJBZu_1yEYKAEIXxHEXiY0--sykqw

>PVP - Fight club (Every Saturday 6pmET/11pmUTC plus impromptus whenever):
-Rules: https://i.imgur.com/E8zcBcQ.png
-Pthumeru: n6rc9jh8
-Loran: jjpkdcgd
-Isz: 9v8qndas
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Darkbeast Paarl is such a fucking mess of a fight. The camera ends up being such a bitch to deal with and all my hits miss. And partially because I suck.

Tips?
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This is the official Bloodborne comic, say something nice about it
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>>197791013
It has great reaction images
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>>197790862
Why does everyone feel the need to lock on to Paarl? Literally just stop clicking your right stick in and the fight becomes a lot more manageable. He's still one of the more difficult bosses, but people like making him so much harder than he has to be.
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>>197790862
Play unlocked, go for the limbs, once they fall you can go for the head. Keep track of which limbs have fallen so you can go for another. Pungent Blood Cocktails can keep him distracted a bit, the AoE explosion can be iframed
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>>197790862
>Playing locked on giant enemies
Paarl and BLB are impossible locked on, easy when unlocked
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8th for the Queen
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>>197791360
>>197791401
>>197791452
...I-I was unlocked
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>>197791574
Yeah, unlocked will also fuck the camera but it doesn't move your character in ways you don't want it to, you'll eventually learn to beat him pretty much without using your eyes, we all do eventually.
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>Missed the new thread again
FUCK
PURGE FILTH
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It's okay to leave the bloodtinge at 10 for a Reiter build? Or should I level it to the soft cap?
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>>197791869
If you care more about weapon and riposte damage than bullet damage it's fine
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>>197791869
Yes it's okay to keep it at base, the scaling isn't great
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>>197791869
iirc the bloodtinge scaling only affects the bullets from the trick form, so ignoring it past the requirement is fine.
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>>197791869
Whats the point of going Reiter if you're not going to combo it with cannon? The utility of the tricked form is the single greatest thing about it.
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>want to SKL
>all the weapons are too classy for my tastes
Haha time for saw spear
Again
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>>197791869
The gun form is neat but it's outclassed by the actual left hand guns. If you raise BLT any higher you'd be better off using the Evelyn or the Repeater. It's still a good utility depending on what you pair it with in your left hand.
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Boss everyone said was hard that you found easy?

Boss everyone said was easy but you found hard?
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>>197792576
Logarius
Darkbeast Paarl
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>>197792576
>Horseface
>Autistic Beast
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>>197792576
>Boss everyone said was hard that you found easy?
Maris.
>Boss everyone said was easy but you found hard?
I struggled with the chalice version of BSB and HBLB the most, I think.
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>>197792345
>too classy
Saif is the antithesis of classy
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>>197792747
>HBLB
Yeah me too. It's absurd how much trouble that thing can give me sometimes.
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>>197792384
>The gun form is neat but it's outclassed by the actual left hand guns. If you raise BLT any higher you'd be better off using the Evelyn or the Repeater. I

At 50 BLT the rieterpallache (with 3 27.2% Tempering gems) does slightly more damage per bullet than an Evelyn with a 31.5% Bloodtinge gem. The difference gets wider and wider the less BLT you have.

If you put some 31.5% offshapes in your Reiter it would do 457 damage per bullet.

It can't be buffed with BMA though, but you shouldn't be using BMA on Evelyn anyway, Cannons and Repeater only for best value.
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>>197792576
Laurance, he's annoying but he's not really that tough

Rom, now-a-days I can beat him easily but the first time playing the game he kicked my ass so many fucking times because I just had no idea how to juggle his Romlings and the meteor attack
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soooo anyone have a good farm for bolt gems radials? im trying to use tonitrus on a 43 but having a hard time finding good radials without going deep in chalice dungeons
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>>197792576
>Boss everyone said was hard that you found easy?
Orphan of Kos
>Boss everyone said was easy but you found hard?
FUCKING ROM
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>>197793074
>31.5% offshapes
The mistake in my post was forgetting that everyone else here is actually autistic enough to farm these.
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>>197792576
1. Laurence. NG+6 Laurence is unironically one of my favorite fights.
2. Probably Keeper of the Old Lords in any cursed dungeon when on any build that doesn't have access to a) Beast Roar or B) High visceral damage.
She's a fucking bitch
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>>197793106
Hamlet fish wizards drop 20.3% bolt radials
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>>197792945
Oh wow I forgot about that thing. Pretty easy to get, too.
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>ost gets to the middle part where the music goes silent with the exact timing and all
>"ahh, you were at my side all along"
>music goes from very dark and menacing to grand and majestic
really brings a tear in my eye..... this is true kino
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*rings bell*
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best pants
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>>197792576
Vicar Amelia. She never tried to recover HP when I fought her

Paarl
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>>197795254
>summons a group of the deadliest enemy in the entire game
Fuck spiders.
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Does really nobody have a say about Arianna's... thing? You know the... thing.
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>>197794937
The first time I saw it, it was so surreal that the cutscene came across as almost comical to me. It's a hell of an experience.
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>>197796050
Don't talk to me or my prostitute's son ever again.
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>/dsg/ comprises three games, one of which more recent than BB
>almost dead some nights
What keeps you guys here? Is it the chalice dungeons?
I haven't played the dlc, and hesitate to take my character past Rom until I get it. Ive heard more than enough times that it's the best parts of the game
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>>197796278
>Didn't start with "oh dear, what was it? The blood, the hunt, or the terrible dream?"
Shame on you anon
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>>197796278
Correction, FOUR games, including Demon's souls.
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>>197796050
Wheeled it immediately. Fucking cosmicniggers rapin our women
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>>197796278
>Ive heard more than enough times that it's the best parts of the game
Prepare to hear it again then, because it absolutely is. That, FCs, and chalice co op
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Is there any real point in doing the FR in FRC? I know one of them causes a bunch of hunters to spawn, which can be useful for some builds, but does having red aura enemies really help any? I've been eternally low on Sage's Hairs, and I'm debating just finding some madmen to grind or finishing up my NG to get it to show up in the insight bath.
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>>197796501
All kosmulattos and kosniggers in Yharnam should be aborted to keep the streets free of alien brain-rapists
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>>197796508
FC's? Whats an FC?
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>>197796278
It's the beautiful moments like >>197794937 and pic related. The entire game was full of stuff like this while DS3 only had a few that I 'felt', you know what I mean.
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>>197796675
Lurk. More.
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>>197796424
>The blood, the hunt, or the terrible dream?
Which one corresponds to which Dark Souls?
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>>197796675
FIGHT CLUBZ

>>197794937
>When the horns kick in as he stands upright sword in hand, and the choir goes while you're dodging moonlasers
Kinoest of kino
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>>197794937
I love when the highest and most intense part of the chorus to 'the holy blade' portion of the song will often start around the time he does an AOE or that infinetly long Line AOE
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>>197796278
Don't summon help for the first boss in the DLC and quickly play through it before you get spoilt. Its really something else.
And I don't just mean "Hurr durr its a nice boss" I mean "You will ruin the greatest moment in the game if you get the 1st DLC boss spoilt for you"
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>>197796851
>The blood
Dark Souls III

>the hunt
Dark Souls

>the terrible dream
Dark Souls II
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>>197796278
we can't escape this terrible hunters dream
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>>197796278
DLC is end game content anon, basically designed with Mensis gems in mind on NG, and chalice gems on NG+
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>>197797256
This. Summoning is only forgivable if you come close to winning solo
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>died to the celestial emissary for the first time ever
terrible feeling
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>>197796235
>>197796501
fuk I probably should've included that I meant the npcs. Was expecting the dweller or at least someone else at the chapel to say something about it. Thanks for your input through I chortled at that stupid meme.
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>>197797939
Did you have a complete failure of spatial awareness and get stuck between a pack of little ayys and a wall while Emissary slapped you to death
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>>197798087
i rolled into the wall and got swarmed, also im playing really badly today
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>>197798219
Don't feel bad, thats probably happened to all of us at one point
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post valtr
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Every time I beat a boss in this game I get scared about if I'll be able to beat the next one.
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>originally wasn't big into str weapons because they were too slow
>try out a str/arc build for the hmls
>turn enemies into mush with transformed slam l1's and r2 r2 combos
>maria boss fight becomes a nonstop bullyfest
any other weapons that are really satisfying to land hits with?
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>>197798569
oh and forgot to mention the sword's l2 attack. I love how it sends enemies flying
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>59% of players beat Father Gascoigne

Now I'm not sure if the PS4's trophy unlocks are accurate, but did 41% of the people who bought this game not get passed him? Kinda strange
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>>197798569
>
using quickstep wheel slams is pretty fun in my book
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Did Eileen, Djura, Gascoigne, Henryk or any of the OG hunters ever knew about the great ones?
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>>197798469
There's like no art of him bro
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>>197798741
59%? wow
I remember seeing that 85% had killed pontiff in ds3 on ps4.
Who buys the best game of the decade only to stop before the first real boss?
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>>197798925
a real shame
considering he's the cutest
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Valtr sliders when?
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>>197799656
The version of Bloodborne that's getting datamined is unpatched.
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>>197799178
I was curious and checked to see if there was any __porn__ of him, but it looks like there's none at all.
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>>197799746
I know, that's why I'm asking. Patched data when?
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>>197800553
true, theres some good erotica though
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>renew my PS+ first time since buying PS4 in preparation for MHW demo
>log in BB with my spelunking char (BL250+)
>surprisingly find some summons pretty quickly
>run into some picrelated
>the summons rush them and R1 spam
>unsurprisingly they get oneshot
How do you reach this point in the game and don't recognize these old women (men) things are some of the deadliest enemies in the dungeons?
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>>197798837
Eileen and Djura also dreamed just like we did. I would think that they know that there is something greater.
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>>197798925
>>197800553
>hi hater
>bye hater
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>>197800553
Just type his japanese name into twitter both jp and kr fangirls draw him plenty
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>>197801176
>autistic screech
>single digits fps
>instant summons
>more fps drop and screeching
They are the worst enemy in the game but I still hope to find a room with six of them shoulder by shoulder
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There is absolutely no point in going pure STR or pure SKL, is there?
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>>197802575
More Vit/End if you're staying at a certain meta.
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https://imgur.com/a/zqkmk To the anon who wanted them, sliders for my old man
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>>197802096
indeed
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Would you say Bloodborne creepier/scarier than the DS games? I don't know what it is about Bloodborne, but a part of me gets a weird anxious feeling as I progress that I never had with the DS games
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>>197803457
It's more tense, aye. I know a lot of folk freaked out at the cosmic horror stuff
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>>197803457
It definitely features more gore and body horror elements than the Souls games, despite Miyazaki's lies about enemies having to always look dignified blah blah blah. As for actually being scared of the picture on the screen - that depends on every individual player.
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>>197803457
Yes, just because dejavu sages exist. Nothing quite falling through the floor down a dark tunnel and seeing a madman silhouette slowly turn to you.
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>>197803457
I don't know about the DS games, but my guess would be a combination of
>Lovecraftian horror
>Aggressive enemies
>No shield to hide behind
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>>197803457
It's because in Souls games, the world has already ended and you're traveling through the post-apocalypse in hopes of fixing everything back to how it used to be (or letting it die for good). Bloodborne is different in that it takes place DURING the apocalypse. At the beginning of the game there's still people everywhere, Yharnam seems like a functioning city that's just going through a temporary crisis. It feels like there's some hope that maybe you'll be able to stop everything before it's too late. Then night falls and all the nameless NPCs around the city stop responding to you, all you hear from their homes are screams of terror. The NPCs you saved at the chapel start acting funny. Blood moon arrives, Yharnam goes silent because everyone is either dead or turned into beasts. Even your first friend and ally, Gilbert, turns into a beast right in front of you and tries to kill you, and all you can do is put him out of his misery. All your friends at the chapel have lost their minds or been raped and mindbroken by eldritch horrors. By the time you've gotten to the end of the game, Yharnam is in the sort of state that a Souls game's world is in at the start of the game. The difference being that you actually experience the decline, and "dude it's grimdark" isn't implied, it's outright shown to you. I've never felt any sense of dread in a Souls game, but my first Bloodborne playthrough really gave me some feels.
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>>197803457
>tfw horribly creeped out by the Graveyard Hags

I had no issues killing them, just their design, body language and voice really fucking terrifies me. I really find horror terrifying in the image of a woman. Shit like The Grudge, The Ring, The Conjuring fucking creep me out. Had no spoops with the game until I first made my way to the witches.
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>>197795545
Starting pants are the best pants.
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>>197803457
I think it has a more sad/lonely feeling. In DaS there will be a handful of npcs who hang around you and understand your predicament. In Yharnam the first outsider you meet is an ill man who's dying, and the other hunters are either mad, or broken, old husks of their former selves. All of which who die unless you never complete their questlines. Bloodborne is fucking depressing. #SaveGilbert2018
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speaking of which, what did you guys find to be the scariest enemies?
personally it would be those little midget guys in mergo's loft, their walk cycle sends shivers down my spine
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>>197804113
I see babushkas like this every day on the streets. Well, maybe not as tall.
How the hell are all Yharnamites so tall? Pthumerian lineage?
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>>197803457
>first playthrough
>hunting a few beasts
>suddenly Nightmare Frontier
>what is going on
>kill Amy
>feel good about killing an eldritch abomination
>notes keep getting weirder
>Iosefka goes bat shit crazy
>very old mushroom man staring at the lake
>giant spider in a lake inside a lake
>cutscene
>reach Yaharhar
>Amys everywhere like cockroaches
>laughter stops.png
>go to Oedon Chapel to see if everyone is ok
>they are not
>there's an Amy right outside
>notice that it's what made that black hole at the start of the game
>they were right there, since the beginning
>you just couldn't see
>start thinking about what this game is for the third time
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>>197804310
hey, at least gilbert could walk as a beast
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>>197801242
WHEW.
where lad?
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>>197804504
ao3
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>>197804421
I always want to just leave him there, but then I remember how unhappy he was about becoming a beast and how the final conversation with Gilbert seems to be about him lamenting over his encroaching beasthood.
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>>197805031
remember friend
eventually time for mercy
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Why is fake Iosefka so evil?
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>>197806015
How is she evil?
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Mystery man's eyes got me looking to see what other eye types there were. There seems to be two types of cataracts, one set that's "dull" and one that's "shiny". I was expecting they might have the pitch black eyes DaS3 has, but apparently not.
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>>197806516
Go too high and you lose your eyes on the outside.
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>the srrc experience
You can pick as many as you want.

>it's a defiled chalice
>host is in bonus room and insists on doing the second
>host is in full cainhurst with lhb
>host dies immediately to boss
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goddamn FUCK the orphan's lightning, i would have smoked this nigga 10 times over if not for that shit, i can't keep track of the lightning circles flying towards me and him jumping across the map and flinging his shit at me, let alone actually trying to attack me as well
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>>197806604
spooky
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>>197807181
>complaining about the host not rushing the boss
Would blank faggots like out.
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>>197791530
Is okay if forcibly breed the queen?
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>>197807489
I think the complaint is more that the host spent a bunch of time only to immediately die on the boss.
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Whats that smell vg
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>>197807489
The host is the only player who benefits from bonus rooms. There is no progression to the end goal, no reward to be made outside echoes, which can be made anywhere, and just serves to waste the co-operator's time for the selfish benefit of the host. Fuck off.
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>>197807240
The lightning always starts from the corpse and spreads out in the same pattern. If you stand in the water at 2 o clock from the sun then it will never hit you
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>>197807610
That's something you have to just accept sometimes if you volunteer to help others via srrc.
If you just want ez gem farm you place those chalices and summon yourself, not get summoned.
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>>197807978
Yes, and that's why you're an insufferable little faggot who deserves to be blocked. Why do you even ring that fucking bell if you don't actually intend to help the host?
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>>197808148
>tag along with my optional pve comfy coop or your insufferable and deserve a block
I want resources and vermin, they want that, as well as the ability to progress. It's an already established win-win situation that doesn't need any kind of entitled, selfish and outright pathetic reasoning weighing it down.

>struggling with pve MOBS enough to call a player to help them out
Incredible.
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>>197807596
>Implying Annalise's barren womb could bear anything
That slag has been shoving dregs up her disease-ridden snatch for who knows how many years and hasn't gotten anything.
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>>197807978
I ring coop because i enjoy bloodborne's game play. i love it when the host clears out the layer completely, and it's what I'll always do when I'm hosting a spelunk.
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>decided to do random coop through srrc
>it's one of Zullie's dungeons
Huh
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>>197791013
>golden gun
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>>197809320
Spelunking isn't SRRC. Unless you mean to imply you, for some ungodly reason, host public spelunkings and then expect every single player who is randomly brought into your game to comply with your selfish protocols.
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Do you think a good way to get better at bloodborne is to play at a lower level? It seems that level mostly affects your health, you can do a lot of damage even at a lower level with a +10 weapon and mensis gems, in some games your level has a much larger impact on your gameplay
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>>197791013
imo the worst thing about this is the way he carries the cleaver
if he falls over he's fucking dead
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>>197809763
it's not selfish to clear out a dungeon, srrc or otherwise. It's literally playing the game as intended, not that I expect cooperators to behave in any particular way.
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>>197810040
>host gets echoes, any loot pillaged and progression
>cooperator gets echoes
>not selfish

Just don't ring the bell if you're main priority is mob enemies, it's that simple.
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>>197810294
my main priority is enjoying bloodborne sperg. don't ring coop if you aren't patient/willing to match a host's playstyle
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>>197810362
>enjoying bloodborne means publicly wasting people's time for your own benefit
>if you don't like the way i play, don't ring your bell so i can waste other people's time instead
>you can't use this feature and enjoy bloodborne because i want to enjoy bloodborne selfishly
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>>197809890
A bl4 run literally forces you to git gud. Every dlc fight and the chalice bosses from loran onwards kills you in 1 or 2 hits so you basically have to learn each boss perfectly and not make any mistakes for the full 5-10 minute fight
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>>197810450
>thinks playing bloodborne is wasting people's time
why are you here? /dsg/ is thataway
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>>197810294
Don't ring at the SRRC if you want to impose your arbitrary rules onto the host. It's that simple.
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>>197810519
Waiting for hosts you be done gawking at the same pthumerian mob positioning as the same other 16 dungeons isn't playing the game, retard. I'm glad you're having fun staring at hilarious goofs such as, "ahaha this door shouldn't be here" or "wow what a crazy enemy i found", but there is absolutely nothing that makes you do this with two random phantoms kidnapped out of SRRC except your own hubris.

>this is neo-/bbg/
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>197810742
got from "exploring the bonus areas" to "staring at pthus" pretty quick there.

>this is shitposting. no mores (you)s
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ah, luddy is so hype
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Anons I bought the game two days ago and nearly finished it today and I need to confirm something: If I engage the fight with gehrman I will be thrown directly into NG+ after my victory unlike in DS? I know I've unlocked Moon P so if I beat her I go straight to NG+ too?
Asking because I've never toucher the calice donjon stuffs and wondering if I'm missing something
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>>197811565
beat gehrman, then let MP kill you/use bold hunter mark to stay in NG.
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>>197810742
Maximum autismo, if you don't like the SRRC don't use it. Also stop assuming everyone puts as much time in the game as you seem to do. Host bosses or runs yourself if the casual co-op bores you.
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how to cheese defiled amygdala, she's giving me a brain tumour
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Spelunk? Co-op?
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>>197812480
>coop
>lhb's L2 to amy's head
>cannon to amy's head
>any weapon with reach to amy's head
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>>197812480
Pretty much this>>197812958. There's also a sweet spot between her leg and her arms that allows you to beat the shit out of the middle one with little to no retaliation from her. All she'll do most of the time is try to stomp you (and miss, if you're positioned correctly) or to a jump attack, which is easy to dodge if you learn the correct timing.
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>>197811565
>I will be thrown directly into NG+ after my victory
Yes.
>unlike in DS
DS did it too, you know...
>I've never toucher the calice donjon stuffs
Chalice dungeon progress and difficulty are the same over multiple NG cycles. But on NG+ the insight bath messengers sell all the rare ritual materials and blood rocks.
Although, if you never did the chalice dungeons you'll likely find layer 1-3(4) dungeons too easy.
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>>197813342
DS2 didn't.
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>>197812480
>>197812958
>>197813079
Dudes, stop. That's not how you "cheese" Amy.
The proper way to do it (and it's hardly even cheese) is to bait the jump and catch it on the head.
>stand near the tip of its tail
>wait for it to jump
>turn around, hold R2 and turn the camera all the way up
Easy damage, easy staggers, easy viscerals, easy boss. You're literally invincible.
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>>197813441
fair point. i mean the only real cheese requires you to be god with the stake driver.
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>>197812928
I'll join a spelunk if you up to hosting
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>>197812928
>>197813812
Does anyone here actually run a universal pw at all times, like "/bbg/"?
I remember back in the more active days of /mhg/ you could just go online at any time, find rooms under "fishing" and use the general password and find fellow anons that way.
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>>197808669
I just want to claim her delicious lithe body as mine
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>>197813812
Sure m8. Ringing at qv7rfa8s, pass is bbg.

>>197813890
The OP says to set bbg for spelunking, but no one ever does.
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>>197813890
Tried a few times through srrc, for the most part got nothing exept a few crow invasions
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>>197813964
Cool, ringing small at l1
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>>197813964
One slut still open, will wait a couple of minutes before moving on.
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>>197814168
Full!
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>>197813342
DS3 didnt
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>>197813964
Layer 1 report - "Witch hunters all over the shop" edition
>the title says it all
>sleeping bepis ate a ladder and got punished for it
>Hibiki forgot to give a shit about getting riposted and dying
>ritual blud and shitty gem in treasure rooms
>boss was blood-starved beyonce
>I have literally no idea of what the fuck went on during that fight because of all the buff effects, blood and moonlight laz0r beemz
>she got severely bullied, I don't think she even phase 3'd
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>>197813393
>>197814806
He said "unlike in DS", not "unlike in DS2 and DS3".
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>>197814917
Layer 2 report - "r00d d00ds" edition
>tactical bell warfare laid waste of an army of zimbabwes
>bepis lashed out in frustration against a lesser beast, r00d
>pthu wouldn't let me climb the ladder
>fist-to-foot fight ensued, ended up in a draw
>lost steak dinner in treasure room
>boss was silverbeast, but the room might as well been empty for how long that fight lasted
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>>197813441
...
im doing that, and i still fucking die every time
i think im just a lost cause
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>>197815610
I would help you, anon. If I had ps+ already, waiting for my code.
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>>197815610
You can just stay in mid-long range and wait for its tantrum attack animations which end with its head hanging low, then spring and get a hit or two in on the head.
But that will likely not work on the third phase when it rips its arms off, because of the tremendously increased reach. So I always default to the jump punish on the third phase.
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>>197815610
What kills you?
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>>197815962
random fucking bullshit, i can never dodge him
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>>197816142
If you stand in the right spot the only attacks it ever uses is a harmless leg stomp and the jump that's easy to punish which you're supposed to do using this tactic.
There's no random bullshit, let alone something that could reach you.
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>>197816251
whenever i'm running back to his tail, he does that grabby thing that hits under him, which is basically a twofer, i always die to that
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>>197816443
It shouldn't happen once you've started the cycle of jump baiting, because you're so close to its butt already, so by the time it recovers from the jump you can already safely be positioned for the next one. Just don't be greedy, one fully charged R2 per jump. That should be enough to kill it in a reasonable time, because the head is so weak. No R1 spam needed.

And if that happens at the start of the fight - bait out another rampaging attack and sprint to it during the recovery animation.
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>>197816443
You need to keep a certain distance when behind him since some of his flailing arms might hit you even if you’re behind him. Be prepared to either adjust if he turns slightly or charge r2 if he jumps. When you’re under him after a jump, escape through between his leg and tail, there’s usually a larger gap between his left leg and tail, but roll as you’re passing through so you can i-frame the stomp
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another thing is, i miss the r2 all the time, its really infuriating
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>>197816838
Yeah, that happens with some weapons, like LHB, which have poor vertical reach on their R2 attacks. Another reason why the steak driver is so good for this fight, aside from having high MV on the R2, is that it's an uppercut attack.
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>>197815549
Layer 3 report - "no casualty-free spelunk achievement unlocked this time too" edition
>dungeon decided to break the mold and threw a cuck and a best hunter at us
>to no avail of course
>Meadows got lost for a good while after being knocked off a bridge
>OG Keeper guarding some precious shitty gem
>other treasure was tier 3 beast rune, noice
>boss was amy, got Hibs and I the first time around, but we learned our lesson
>LAYER FOUR THE RIDE CONTINUES
>Hibiki's specter is already there, how does he do it lads?
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>>197816976
>he
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>>197812480
wasn't too much of a problem with simon's bowblade but I guess that's just because the weapon itself is ___fun
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>>197817064
>has
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>>197817076
i should try that out then, since im gonna use it for my next run anyhow
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>>197817121
>a dick
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>>197817179
>and
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At least immediate vengeance
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That npc got some moves
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>>197817170
it's worth the fifteen minutes it takes to cheese simon, charged up arrows can stun any medium-large enemies to death
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>>197817769
already got it mang, its pretty fun
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>>197817207
>a pizza cutter
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>>197816976
Layer 4 report - "Broken portal to layer 5" edition
>loran engineering at its finest
>witch hunter got me gud in a circular room made for honobaru duels
>got me a second time but she also died so I shall consider it a draw
>layer 4 was nice enough to gift us with a pre-boss treasure area with plenty of tomb mold and a messenger bath
>there was also a "fake" treasure room guarded by yet another witch hunter, whom placed two treasure chests one in front of the other just for shits and giggles
>Meadows decides to pull the good old "let's step on the guillotine plate" practical joke on Hibs
>everyone laughed but him
>pthumerian elder got drunk last night and woke up in a loran boss room
>he didn't make it through the hangover

Thanks for joining me and making a pretty good dungeon all the better, Meadows and Hibiki, good time was had by all.
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where do I go to disable fucking motion sensor emotes? was skipping dialogues during gascoigne fight and my hunter decided it was time to take a nap
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>>197818275
Also sorry for dying a lot from the Amy fight onward, but I was (and still am) starving.
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>>197818275
Thanks for hosting, such a good time that i wouldn't mind going for another one right now
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>>197818420
Give me half an hour to eat and I'll gladly join you.
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>>197818342
>Disabling motion controls
Motion controls are the future, anon.
Every game should use them.
Get with the times, old man.
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>>197818275
Thanks for the host.
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>>197818553
Great, post when ready
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>>197818618
I ate super fast. Are you going to host this time around?
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>>197819905
I would prefer if you do it - your reports are the best. But if there is a material shortage i can host
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>>197820016
>your reports are the best
How could I say no to that? We Pthumeru now:

Glyph - ne9ysxce
Pass - bbg

Also bonus unrelated webm: forgot to post it after last week's speelunk.
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>>197820285
Ringing.
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What's the best bowblade for a bloodtinge build?
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>>197820373
Simon's
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Sorry Hibiki, you a real human bean though.
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>>197820469
I'm so glad I stayed awake just long enough to see this
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Got him?
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>>197821446
Lol nope, we're waiting for you.
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>>197821446
nope, waiting for you
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>>197821490
>>197821506
My bad, was ringing on L2.
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Any luck this time?
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>>197820285
Layer 1 report - "Directed by M. Night Shamalan" Edition
>Hibiki craves for more spelunks and ends up cucking Meadows
>PLOT TWIST he self-cucks and leaves the slot that was rightfully Meadows'
>PLOT TWIST he's back as an invader
>10/10 surprise attack from a collapsed floor above above us
>took Jordan's life but he ded nao
>ring of cuckoldry in treasure room
>boss was undead giant, who un-undeaded me and J-bro while Meaddo shot horizontal HMLS laz0rs from his crotch in the ACB stance I shit you not
>co-operators thinking too highly of their hosts
>their sacrifice during the second fight was not vain though
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Oh you mother fucker
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>>197822058
;^)
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>>197821871
So that's how i got the slot. Thank you for Hib, and yeah, great ambush
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DUDE'd
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I'd say we leave that room for last
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>>197822728
a DUDE should be left well alone. Especially if there is a 5 jn top eachother
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See you guys on layer 3, if you can make it.
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>tfw no mace that tricks into a flail
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>>197792576

Orphan. By the time I got to him, I had dodging down, so he wasn't a problem at all. Shadow of Yharnam are very easy to me, no matter the NG+, and I've seen a lot of people say they're hard.

Living Failures.
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>>197821871
Layer 2 report - "Of DUDEs and OINKs" Edition
>starting off strong with Hibmeister invading us 2 minutes in
>and camping in a room with 5 (F I V E) DUDEs
>Jo-Jo decided to be a hero and off one of them but Hibs got him
>Meadows joins the hunt
>We try and clean the room, including Hibiki
>I jump down in the room below to "safety" to avoid a boom hammer to the face as Meadows dies Kos only knows shat horrible death
>"safety"
>be instantly greeted by 2 OINKs and a witch hunter
>the only escape route is a ladder, which if climbed would spell my doom
>fight Hibs while dodging everything but eventually >>197822863 happens
>5 DUDEs later we enter a gasoline lake with 2 cannon giants and a double scythe one
>die miserably as Miyazaki's muffled laughter echoes in the distance
>all that for a lost wheel to hang over my workshop table
>boss was the fat pride parade
>got dunked as I was blood bulleting but the time after I was winrar

WEW FUCKING LAD, longest report ever. Sorry for dying so much fellas, I forget that my ARC build is the one with the least HP.
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>>197824313
>least hp
>824
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>>197824313
To be precise, I got DUDEd before Hibiki managed to hit me.
Also, what's up with the frame rate on L3?
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>>197824313
No worries, quite ruthless layer.
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>>197824641
It's actually 852, but yeah all my other builds have 45 VIT and I still manage to die every other minute. Really makes that nogging jogging.

>>197824751
This is what's up.
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>>197824751
poisonous things underneath. fixed it
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Oh shit, bullying people in Nightmare Frontier is fun as hell. A fair amount fall down the poison ravine too. So this is what it feel like to be blood addled.
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>>197823974
>tfw no giant shield that tricks into a gigantic combat shovel
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G-guys?
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>Session lost
this is sad
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>>197801631
Well, they're over leveled shitters who don't even know how to play the game.
kinda like you
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>>197824313
Layer 3 report - "The best laid plans" Edition
>FPSs shitting themselves past the first door due to DUDE (singluar), spider maiden and poisonous RAM-usage smokes
>in the mean time our recurring villain is at it again
>this time there are no DUDEs around to protect him and he gets BSE'd in the back
>stuff happens but I forget because I didn't die this time so I had no time to update the layer report in the mean time
>session lost out of nowhere
>found jack shit in treasure rooms
>co-operators disappointed in me for finishing the bonus area without them, I can tell
>boss is PthElder again
>dead, again
>LAYER FOUR AGAIN, twice in a row bby
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Meadow, be careful: Hibiki strikes again.
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>>197826941
Cool, ringing at l4
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Ahh
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>>197803667
Late to the reply, but Miyazaki's comment was always misunderstood, it was specifically for the Undead Dragon.
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>>197826661
Layer 4 report - "Pthumerians of the Carribeans" Edition
>sinister bell resonates with another
>gee, I wonder who that might be
>it's captain Hibiki Sparrow shooting cannon balls at us from a mounted cannon on a balcony
>misses every shot even though some of them somehow curve towards us
>find a way up but he's 2spooky gone
>find treasure room with tier 3 heir rune inside
>forgot we were actually looking for the lever
>Hibiki tries another 10/10 surprise attack, this time with his own cannon and charged boom hammer R2
>somehow misses everyone point blank
>pays the price of his bad aim
>finally find the lever
>Meadows is so amazed at its sight that goes afk for a minute
>Elder's nephew is seeking to avenge his two grampas
>same arena too
>being the kind hunters we are, we reunite him with his granparents
>honorable mention goes to Meadow's choir bell which saved my ass on at least one occasion

Great spelunk everyone, thank you Jordan, Hibiki and Meadows for making it so.
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>>197826417
>>197801631
Their fireballs hurt more if you collide with them before they throw them at you. It's easy to get caught in open frames while button mashing against them and take increased damage + counter damage.
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>>197828795
Thanks for hosting, Funker. Gee, I wasn't expecting a hardcore experience like that for my first spelunk of the day, but it was fun nonetheless.
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>>197828795
Sorry for quick afk, got a phone call i had to answer. And ofcourse thanks for hosting, what a ride! Two 10\10 spelunks in a row
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>>197803457
My man, just look at Hypogean Gaol and Upper Cathedral Ward, they are designed specifically to make you incredibly uneasy. Research Hall is no better, all the patients obsessed with water are creepy as hell. I really love the implication that simple water itself, in great enough quantities, can be some medium for alien intelligence.

Yahar'gul is absolutely terrifying:
>encounter new enemy
>he's so fucking strong
>die
>oh well
>wait
>there's a cutscene?
>suddenly a familiar thing, dying and respawning, is taken away from you, and you are plunged into the unknown
>awaken in a fucking cell
>there's chanting from somewhere close, but muffled
>it's pitch black
>all the furniture and mirrors are covered to resemble kidnappers
>large looming shapes in the darkness
>someone else is downstairs terrified
>walk outside
>there's more kidnappers roaming around
>where the fuck is that chanting coming from
>what the fuck are all these statues
>zone out to the nice familiar Cathedral Ward
>go back later
>calcified corpses everywhere
>some cluttered around entrances
>some halfway up the walls
>what the fuck happened here
>the moon is making sounds

Yahar'gul is viscerally scary and does not let up, ever.
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Is it possible to beat the game without ever going to the hunter's dream?
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>>197829708
>last boss is in the dream
gee
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>>197829708
you need to go there to kill germ man but before that no. that does mean beating the game with an unupgraded saw spear/BoM at bl10 though
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>>197829969
>BL10
Overleveled shitter detected
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>>197829969
With other origins, you'll be able to use some DLC weapons too.
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>Gehrman's face when some random foreign hunter appears out of nowhere, spends several million echoes on BL and equipment and proceeds to call him a chicken wuss
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>>197830540
um, no posting spongebob images sweetie :)
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>>197829708
You have to talk/fight Gehrman at the end so it's impossible
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Why bloodborne music is so bad compared to the other tracks in the series

>DS 1 had gywn theme
>DS 2 majula theme
>DS 3 Gael, firelink, Midir...

With bloodborne I can't find any good track, maybe only the hunters dream theme
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>>197830981
That's the best he could do, everyone, look at him and laugh
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>>197830981
>i hab good muzik taste
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>>197830981
What is Living Failures, Ludwig, Gehrman, One Reborn and Laurence. Personaly, I think Orphan of Kos is oddly calming.
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>>197831114
>>197831115

I can't hear any arguments proving the contrary, are you indeed retarded?
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>>197831212
found you, redditor
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>>197831212
How would I "prove" that a music is good? And I didn't see any arguments coming from you.
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The only moment I bothered recording from this spelunk. It's not that great, but it's better than wasting posts replying to b8.
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Now that's some autistic bait
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>>197831212
I dunno, are you? I'm having a right hearty chuckle at you, as a terrible shitposter or as someone will inconceivably bad taste
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Best setup for bb? Is it one of the few weapons that is better with an abyssal tempering?
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>>197831829
Bb?
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>>197831891
Burial blade
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>>197831829
Build?
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>>197832156
Skl/str.
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>>197831829
Just normal 27.2% assuming it's a Skill heavy build
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>>197832517
Three 27%
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>AWAY AWAY posting on fgog
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>>197831971
Just go with normal temperings. The ARC scaling really hampers it. It's still a great weapon with a great loveseat and crazy rally. It's just not as good as it could be.
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>>197833358
*moveset
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Is bb and bom viable on an arc build with flat arc gems? phys% + flat arc? should do reasonable damage on pthus
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>>197833358
>a great weapon with a great loveseat
Gehrman really was a degenerate
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>>197833593
For PvP not really, PvE sure
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>>197833593
Build?
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Anyone want to join me in Isz?
Glyph: 4tbkdp4y
Password: bbg44
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>>197833943
20/14/5/50
str/skl/blt/arc
also i'd like to try the same with amy arm
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If I'm gemming a weapon for PvE should I avoid putting attack vs kin and attack vs beast down gems on it?
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Did anyone else go full retard in DS3 when they got to Irithyll and think they were actually going to tie Bloodborne into the canon?

>Entire area looks like something out of Bloodborne, like a neighboring city to Yharnam
>First enemy you fight looks nearly identical to the Watchdog of the Old Lords except it's not on fire, also it has "beast" in its name
>It drops a ring saying Pontiff Sulyvahn would give his knights these rings, and that these knights eventually transformed into "frenzied beasts"
>Irithyll sounds like Ihyll, the last main pthumerian chalice

I kept waiting for a fucking great one to pop up somewhere in the game after I got there, and it never happened. Why am I this stupid.
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>>197835128
Flat damage is just a bonus on anything that has bad dps and big multipliers. You could try for yourself to see how it goes.
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>>197835381
>Why am I this stupid.
You're not really stupid, blame B team for reusing Bloodborne assets.
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>>197835263
They mean very little, don't worry about it
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>>197835381
sweet child this blinded by wishful thinking....

it never crossed my mind, but looking at the town from a distance I can at least see where you're coming from with all those pointy roofs
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>>197835720
You don't know what reusing assets means, and the only game B Team made was Dark Souls 2.
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Does this game still have an active online playerbase? If I were to resubscribe to PSN it'd be pretty much exclusively for BB PvP/co-op.
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>>197835939
>Bloodborne got finished in 2015
>A team squeezes out a fullblown game in 1 year
Yeah no, DaS 3 is B team garabge, sorry to break it to you.
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>>197835263
For a single weapon for all purposes sure. You can just gem a weapon dedicated for beasts with kin down and vice versa with another
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My STR is still at 9 while my skill is like 26

Did I do something wrong? How high should I get my strength up at minimum for a skill-based class
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>>197835960
Fontier and Mensis still has PvPers, SRRC co-op is still pretty active. And we still do online stuff quite a bit
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>>197836219
25 if you don't plan on using arcane but skill/arcane is garbage anyway.
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>>197836037
Then it's a C Team, because DaS3 has nothing in common with DaS2, it's a completely different set of strengths and flaws.
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>>197836219
10, 25 if you're getting the softcap for some Skl weapons. Professional is inferior to Lone Survivor unless you plan on leveling Arc
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>>197836341
>DaS 2 tanimura
>DaS 3 tanimura
I wonder why they're both bad compared to the other Souls games hmmm
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>>loran l2 pre-boss
How is this fair holy shit
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>>197821871
How do you invade spelunks? Hope that the host has the corruption oath and invade as a conehead?
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>>197837109
No.
Ring your small bell within their vicinity or use SRRC and hope you get them
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>>197824930
Teach me your ways, how do you get them so far from the lantern?
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>>197836573
Tanimura wasn't even the reason DaS2 was bad, it was the awful things that happened in development and Shibuya's involvement. DaS3 is a good Souls game, nearly on par with DaS1 and DeS. If only it was less linear.
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>>197837109
You ring your sinister bell at the same layer
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>>197837162
You mean sinister bell?
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>>197837484
Rip
Yeah
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>>197837369
>DaS3 is a good Souls game, nearly on par with DaS1 and DeS.
No. It's boring and unoriginal in nearly every way.
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>>197837419
>>197837520
Thanks, i hope to make them more interesting
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>>197837369
>DaS3 is a good Souls game, nearly on par with DaS1 and DeS.
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>>197837369
You can enjoy whatever you want but that doesn't mean i've got to, so fuck off with your garbage opinion.
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>>197797712
Wrong. Its only ok if you have already beaten it the first time.
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>>197837629
Yet still, against all odds, somehow better than DaS2
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>>197837680
How did you do that?
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>>197837680
I lack the insight to grasp your thumbnail
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>>197837850
Hard to be better than that literal pile of shit lmao
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>>197837871
>>197837880
It wasn't me. I'm scared.
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>>197837680
I was promised a cute Lamia.
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>>197837923
you mean not hard?
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>>197837629
The areas and atmosphere are significantly worse, but it has much better gameplay than DeS, especially the bosses, and it's hard to be original when you're a direct sequel. The first mistake was allowing DaS sequels to be made in the first place, we should have gotten spiritual successors. Dark Souls story was nice as a standalone. I'm sick of the First Flame, I hope we never get DaS4.
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>have to stop what I'm doing to grind for potions
>price goes up as you level

Ah yes, the absolute pinnacle of game design. I mean, who thought it was a good idea to actually remove the tedious task of grinding by having them refill.
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>>197838384
Don't get hit
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>>197838384
>dark souls baby wants infinite heals
Every time
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>>197838384
Just play the game normally and spend your leftover echoes from levelling on vials, it isn't bad. The only problem arises when you get stuck for ages on a boss and you're using too many of them per run.
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>>197838320
>I hope we never get DaS4.
Miyazaki said he has no interest in DaS4, and that it'd take someone in the company being really passionate about an incredibly strong idea for how to do it will to get him to approve it.
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>>197838384
You can stop leveling for a moment and use the echoes to buy them in bulk to never worry about em you know. Unless you're utter shit at the game and can't stop popping them at every turn
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>>197838889
If Namco wants DaS4 there will be DaS4
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>>197838320
Bamco will make sure we get a das4, but first they have to re-release dark souls 1 2 and 3.
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Anybody want some FRC spelunk?
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>>197838693
Not him, since I absolutely adore the game, but I honestly feel like the game would have better if you did always respawn with full viles. There should have been a system similar to Estus Shards, where you get an extra permanant heal everytime you find a certain item, like a "blood pouch" (or bullet pouch for qs bullets). The game should have started with you being able to hold 10 or 12 blood vials and bullets, and have you carry an extra 1 or 2 every blood/bullet pouch you get. Of all the amazing shit in BB, the blood vial system is the only game design I'd call objectively bad and a legitimate downgrade.
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Is 5pwujscd the best place to farm 27.2 triangles? I've been doing runs for a while now and have never dropped anything above 25.2, so if there's a better place to do it I'm all for it.
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>>197838978
>>197838984
From is no longer under contract with them, so Bamco can't force anything. They could theoretically get another company to make a DaS4, but that's an unbelievable recipe for disaster.
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>>197839153
>but that's an unbelievable recipe for disaster.
That hasn't stopped publishers before from doing utterly retarded decisions
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What is considered overleveled for Maria? I just did her for the first time and absolutely shat all over her, I thought she was supposed to be a tough fight
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>>197839106
There's no differrence in droprate between glyphs with the same bosses in the same chalice type. 5pw is pretty fast to run through, you'll get them eventually
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>>197839153
>From is no longer under contract with them
Is this true?
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>>197839153
>Direct sequel to DaS2 directed by the Lords of the Fallen devs
I almost want to see that shitstorm unfold
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>>197839191
>let me post a slojack to defend myself
>bad game design desu
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>>197839284
Yes. From Software was purchased by Kadokawa, and Dark Souls III was the last game Bamco had contracted with From before the buyout.
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>>197839263
60-80 is dlc content.
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>>197839072
There are runes for that
>symbols made by madmen
>uttered by beings incomprehensible to our understanding
>they give you bigger pockets
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>>197839254
Yeah, but there's absolutely no reason to care about Bamco getting some random company to make DaS4. It can be safely pushed away from the actual Souls series, with its retarded brother Slashy Souls.
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>>197839263
Maria is a stunlock puppet, no real need to be overleveled to kill her easily, especially if you're using a weapon like Ludwig's.
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>>197839263
It's easy to shit on her usually, 65+ is recommended for DLC
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>>197839284
The bigger question is, are they still in contract with Sony? I want to see the Bloodborne team complete with Japan Studio work on the next Soulsborne game. I remember reading a NeoGAF rumor to that effect but nothing confirmed.
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>>197838693
>oh shit someone is shit talking my favorite game for a legitimate reason
>better act elitist about one of the only legitimately awful things about the game
Fuck off.
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>>197839610
Bloodborne was the first game in a 3 game contract they have with Sony.
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>>197830934
You could go from clinic to mergo's without ever dying or using a lamp, kill mergo, use a lamp or die, fight Gehrman.
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Where can I get good fire radials?
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>>197839610
>The bigger question is, are they still in contract with Sony?

From what I understand, yes. I believe Bloodborne was the first of three contracted games. One of them is supposedly meant to be VR Compatible to play up the PSVR, which could either be as central to the gameplay as making it King's Field VR or as irrelevant as just being a cockpit mode for Armored Core.
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>>197839545
I know, but that doesn't change the fact that a core gameplay item is finite rather than infinite. I'm not saying it's hard to farm/buy blood vials, since it really isn't, it's quite easy actually. The only place you'd ever really run out of vials is central yharnam pre-gascoigne. But this is something no one should have to do anyways, it's objectively poor design in comparison to estus, it's a problem from demon souls that was fixed in DS.
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>>197839640
>for a legitimate reason
Being bad is not a legitimate reason, mate.
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>>197839043
Made a Isz FRC
Glyph: gq2tjua3
Pass: alium
Ringing at layer 1.
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>>197839706
That was the piece of info I had traced back to a NeoGAF "insider", I don't know if it was ever officially confirmed. I hope that's the case.
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>>197838384
I feel you. I mean I don't have any issue with my stock of vials and bullets but that too makes the system irrelevant. So it's either irrelevant when you have them stocked or it messes with the gameflow when a player runs out. Also fuck not being able to restock by resting at lamps. I think the estus system is far better.
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>>197839715
You still have to go to the Dream to meet Gehrman.
Look at the webm, do you see something unusual happening during that cutscene you get the first time you visit the Dream?
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>>197839723
>>197839606
>>197839434
>60-80
Oh, I thought that I might've been way out doing it at 86.
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>>197839982
Miyazaki and Shuhei are buttbuddies
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>>197839072
Honestly, there's an almost tacit admission that you should respawn with "some" Vials in the DLC. There's that random dregling very clearly advertising its presence before Ludwig who gives you a consolatory 5 Blood Vials for nothing each run of Ludwig.
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>>197840031
Being able to restock items at lamps and thus tag them so that you respawn there when you die would have been a neat system. So would being able to warp between lanterns instead of having to go back to the dream every time.
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>>197839797
Lower Pthumeru Pthumerians with fire weapons. If you're at FRC then farming Cold Abyssals for your Radials
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>>197839924
any slots?
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Why the fuck is Djura still hostile? I killed Paarl and didn't attack anything pn my way to him
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>>197840432
2 spots.
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>>197840447
Did you come from the front and/or killed any beasts?
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>>197839859
>One of them is supposedly meant to be VR Compatible to play up the PSVR
Oh no.
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>>197840328
thanks lad
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>>197839914
>psh, I see no problem with this obviously shitty thing because I'm amazing at this and never had trouble with anything ever
>just stop dying, kid it's a good thing to make the player farm for healing items although I won't say why
>I need to ignore the fact that there is no good reason to make the player farm for healing items
>I can't admit it adds fucking nothing to the game and only serves to waste your time and space the time out between boss attempts for, again, no fucking reason
Fuck off.
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>>197840501
I came from Paarl's graveyard, and I didn't kill anything after Paarl.
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>>197840495
1 spot open. Will wait a minute or two before going.
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>>197840929
Have you dropped the oil urn that sets the room with the beast patients and the crucified bsb on fire?
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>>197840620
That game in particular sounds like it's in some sort of development trouble, check this video:
https://youtu.be/BIi-zuwP9ms
Unless I'm reading it wrong, it says VR and 2017, and as we know they didn't even announce it yet.
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>>197840278
I hope that there was some technical reason why they couldn't implement warping between lamps, bugging shit out. But it's probably just "muh DeS".
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>>197841118
No? I didn't even know you could do that
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>>197840929
Then some poor beast must've killed itself either with gravity or the fire in the area with a hanging BSB corpse if you brought down the urns. I usually bring it down with no problem but it's probably bad luck if you did
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>>197840834
You deserve to be punished for being bad at the game and running from enemies
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>>197840834
The game showers you in vials, if you need more then what it gives, you farm.
If you think the games bad because it punishes you for being bad then
jej?
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>>197841242
Then it's just a bug: try reloading the area, maybe?
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>>197840834
So you'd rather the game hold your hand with free refills to bash your head against the problem instead of actually trying to remedy the problem of why you run out of vials? You actually admit to being a giant baby? Estus is easymode, actually having to manage your items like, you know, every single other RPG in existence is hardly le ebin bad game design. You're just used to having to easy and don't like when you're given an extra level of management and don't like being told that you fucked up by 'being forced' to farm. That's on you, buddy.
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>>197840447
Did you go to him from Paarl's side?
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That's what i get for being impatient.
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>>197841180
>"muh DeS".
That's probably the only reason BB and DaS3 even have separate hub worlds and level up ladies
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>>197840834
>How to show everybody you've never played or touched demon's souls
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>>197841334
I think having to do the boss again from the begging is punishment enough.
You know like every other game in the series aside from Demon's Souls. I wonder why they ditched it in every other game.
It almost feels like you cannot see it from the perspective of the OP who was just starting the game.
>>197841389
>>197841535
It is quite literally the only major problem I have with the game. I honestly think the only reason you don't see it as an issue is because you knoow everything about the game already. Things like this tend to stop being an issue when you already know everything the boss is going to do.
>>197841716
>how to show everybody you shamelessly duped darkmoon grass to bypass farming entirely
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>>197841640
Well, Priscilla was intended to be the level up girl for DaS, and DaS2 had the Herald
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>>197841153
That video didn't even mention Bloodborne
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>>197841535
>extra level of management
You mean normal level of management. The only reason newfags don't complain about bullets is because they don't know they can stagger.
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>>197841824
>It is quite literally the only major problem I have with the game. I honestly think the only reason you don't see it as an issue is because you knoow everything about the game already. Things like this tend to stop being an issue when you already know everything the boss is going to do.
Nope. Never farmed anything the first 2 times I beat the game.
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>>197841535
when i struggle with a boss and then have to take a break farming trashmob enemies with a completely different move set it isn't gonna make me do better against what im struggling with
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>>197841829
Enemies drop more bullets than vials and are also far cheaper to buy, it's as simple as that. And interrupting enemies isn't nearly as major a need as healing.
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>>197841542
Reloaded and still hostile, I'll just fucking kill Djura and befriend him in NG+
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>>197841824
Vials stop being problem when the game showers you with them and showers you with echoes and coldbloods. Two spelunks yesterday netted me over a million echoes. I could max out my vials with a trip or two through Ailing Loran, or Mensis, or Lecture Hall. Vials end up being such a non-issue, it's only scary near the start of the game. If you manage to run out of them that far into the game, you're doing something wrong somewhere and limited heals force you to find that problem and remedy it, thereby getting better at the game, instead of knowing it doesn't matter, you'll just get free refills with no consequences.
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>>197841827
>intended
That's why DS is a step above the rest.
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>>197841828
It's actually by From, check the channel. No idea why it wasn't mentioned
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>>197842025
>And interrupting enemies isn't nearly as major a need as healing.
You're healing too much
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>>197842126
>That's why DaS1 is a step above the rest.
I have to agree with this
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>>197842126
Would anyone here like it better if leveling was done at lamps? The absence of the doll wouldn't bother me terribly much
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>>197842025
>parrying isn't as important as healing
Sounds like it should be more important for you since you keep getting hit.
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>>197842014
You know, respawning with 14 vials shouldn't make you go 'Welp time to farm I guess!' it should make you go 'man I better get it this time' and actually try to do so. People coming from Dark Souls are truly fucked with this different design philosophy because you aren't awarded the luxury or trial and error.
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Ringing at layer 2
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>>197842318
Literally does not change a bloody thing.
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>>197842318
The Doll is actually a bit of a character, unlike the DaS3 firekeeper
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>>197842357
Trial and error is still there. The problem is that faggots love wasting vials with shit. If you have to use 20 vials in the first minute of fight, that's a damn good indicative that you should stop wasting them while you learn the boss moves.
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>>197842549
It would save an extra 30 seconds every level
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>>197842120
So you are basically saying that the system is redundant? Now that I have a full stock of vials it doesn't matter if I use hundreds on an endgame boss I struggle with. In order to be actually punishing the stock would have to be much smaller combined with a much higher price of vials. But that isn't the case cause it would suck ass being stuck on one boss while having no difficulty farming all other enemies.
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>>197842318
Being able to level and warp at lanterns would be a massive improvement.
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>>197842357
respawning with 0 vials means there's no point running to boss since ill get killed in 2 hits and then i have to make the boring trek back to it over and over which is no fun, meanwhile taking a few hits and healing means i get to keep having fun and get more practice while fighting a even if im getting scholed. A penalty for being "bad" should not be Now We'll Waste Your Time With Busywork Instead Of Letting You Play The Game

just "deciding" you're gonna beat the boss this time wont make it a reality.
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>>197842318
The doll is a nice character unlike the Firekeeper and Emerald Herald, so I would like to keep her.
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>>197842318
This is the point: I don't want to sit through two loading screens everytime I kill a boss just to level up (and by that I mean mashing X until the menu appears).
Also, the Workshops in the waking world should work like that in the Dream, so that I can upgrade and repair my weapons and change my runes there.
The only reason why I should return to the Dream is to talk to Gehrman and do Chalices.
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>>197842836
I agree with this. I don't like sitting in tens of thousands echoes with nothing to do with them after I do everything that can be done at the game.
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>>197842836
The reason it becomes a non-issue is because you've at least made headway in gittin good at the game. You've learned to balance your healing with dodging and combat, make use rally and spend echoes responsibly. However, the limited stock is still there and the chance to slip up and fuck up always exists, vials go up in price so stay good. Challenges remain, like doing the DLC (I was shit and caved in to a PS+ subscription for Laurence), NG+ cycles and spelunks will eat your stuff up. But unless you are chugging like a madman, it shouldn't matter once you're at the end point. Limited stock healing exists to make you think early on and adapt, infinite refills just don't.
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>>197843185
And thus the Dream, such a well crafted and major part of the game, is made irrelevant. Warping and refilling at lamps should have been in, but repairs, upgrades and level ups are fine in the Dream.
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>>197843078
>respawning with 0 vials
>ever
At this point you really should quit the game. You brought this upon yourself.
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Is it even possible to beckon somebody without them being a fucking twink. What fun is fighting the boss if it dies in 3 hits.
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>>197843654
Then don't beckon. They are just doing their job.
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>1 bone ash hunter, 1 vileslav, 2 church hunters and 2 pigs in a singe area.
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>>197842126
You'll have to explain, it's better solely because it removed the girl, or because you could to it at Bonfires? Because having to return to the girl or the hub doesn't feel like that much of an issue.
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>>197843765
Im trying to do my part in keeping online play alive. Your probably a twink
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>>197843539
Yeah, the relevance of the Hunter's Dreams is in the possibility of upgrading weapons there, not in the importance it has to the plot or the characters that inhabit it.
>>197843863
It's a waste of time, so it is an issue.
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>>197843078
If you chugged everything in the boss fight to the point you respawn with no vials, it means you kinda fucked up, sorry. It means you were doing something wrong and need to change that. And it's not like you can't run, get your echoes and blank out or use your numerous coldbloods either. Other options exist, why do people immediately resort to farming and then complain? If you have zero echoes from repeated deaths (you knew the risk in the first place) or used up your coldbloods, then tough luck? Use your echoes responsibly. You get showered with so much stuff at points you should always have some option available even if its a measly ten vials. I cannot stress the fact that farming is not natural really is the absolute last resort for people who aren't comfortable with the game yet. We all farmed at some point, but we were shitters. Now we know better and can inform others better. Stop complaining and take some advice onboard. And for fuck's sake, the online exists to be used, use it, especially if you're paying for it like you are with this game. Options exist. But people immediately farm instead for some reason.
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>>197843548
Fortunately it only happened against gasc, but this doesn't make the point I'm making any less true. Even if the game was more friendly towards casuals you can still post about how big your dick is since you never needed to heal it's no loss to you
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>>197843078
>>197842836
These guys understand it, it's not a good punishment and it sure as hell isn't encouraging to new players. Just because it hasn't been a thing you have had an issue with doesn't mean it isn't an issue either especially when it was fixed in Dark Souls and we moved back to healing being a one time consumable for no real reason.
>>197843539
This is also one of the few major issues I have with the game, just another waste of time that doesn't need to be there.
>>197843536
Farming money to buy things isn't challenging nor is it a good punishment for dying to something no matter how many times you keep saying it is. Of course it's a non-issue when you're doing chalice dungeons, but you don't seem to know that people like us are a tiny fucking minority compared to other players, trophy percentage of people who have killed Yharnam are proof enough of that. I would think just being out of viles until you rest at a lamp would be punishment enough but what do I know it's not like they did that already. Wait...
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>>197840834
It punishes player dying or being not wary enough of the amount of healing items they got. There is another very iconic and important mechanic in the game that heals you, aside from echoes. When you can, you should resort to that instead of popping a vial.
It is also used to teach basic resource management. You gotta learn to dedicate a portion of your funds to bying vials and preparing yourself for the next venture.
It also punishes anothe very cancerous and shitty practice that the series is plagued by: running straight to the boss ignoring all the enemies under the excuse of "well i got through them earlier so i am entitled to ignore it all!". I would honestly want From to punish that more, perhaps by increasing enemy aggro range to Nioh Beta levels.
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Ringing at layer 3.
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>>197844243
When I first played I was shit at the game but I knew better than wasting my items like a retard. Git gud is not enough for you, get smart dumb nigga.
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>>197844470
Got a perfect 27.2% from the watchers
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What would you think of a system where you were able to level down? As in redistribute points? At 3 x what a level up would cost or something
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>>197844093
just summon help instead of doing it yourself is the oddest git gud advice ive seen

playing games blind is exciting, having to look up help on tech or movests removes part of the fun of going through a game for the first time

surely you have to agree your old shitter self would've preferred to not having to waste time farming?
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>>197844356
Basic resource management, you say? Maybe we could have a system where you have a limited amount of heals that get reset when you rest at a lantern or somethin, but when you do that all of the enemies in the level respawn so you have to be careful of how often you heal before getting to the boss! Hmm, wait. Didn't another game by the same developer do EXACTLY that? Nah, it must be my imagination.
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>>197844708
It would lead to low level twinks with maxed out gear, without having the problems of getting max gear at low level.
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>>197844338
>I don't want to be punished
>this other thing is punishment enough
>please halve the punishment so I can play like the cool kids
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>>197844338
Spoken like a true Dasbabby. How about you use the coldbloods the game showers you in? Or grab our echoes and mark out? Maybe even help out another player for free echoes and death is no consequence? No? Just resort to farming then, for some reason. If you're farming, you fucked up, it's as simple as that. You need to remedy the situation of why you ran out of vials, that being your lack of skill or awareness of what you did wrong. Literally git gud. Also, it's a non-issue when early on you can, if you really fucking must, farm a higher level area like Hypogean Gaol, or Lecture Hall, or later on, Mensis. Main game areas swimming in echoes exist, too.
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>>197844820
>Maybe we could have a system where you have a limited amount of heals that get reset when you rest at a lantern or somethin, but when you do that all of the enemies in the level respawn so you have to be careful of how often you heal before getting to the boss!
So everything is exactly the same? You even get vials for killing enemies.
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>>197844778
It's not that crazy when I'm playing €8 a month for the ability to do so, my man. It allows you to at least watch and learn from someone else so you can what they're doing, what they've got, how they deal with something.

My old shitter self knew I was shit, so I actually autistically farmed Lecture Hall, Hypogean and Mensis for echoes. Then I started making new characters and got my shit together. I saw it as a security blanket against having to git gud. That's a problem.
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Why is the traditional consensus of BL98 due to the general idea of hitting BL80+ in PVP hotspots, while simultaneously avoiding BL150s, when BL99 allows you to hit BL81+ and also avoids BL150s

Any of the old timers who've made multiple BL98 builds care to share their decisions?
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>>197844820
Don't have to manage fuck all when it's free with no consequences, because Dasbabbies run past enemies
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>>197844820
Stop putting words in my mouth.
Also the souls system is far more braindead, you basically waste all your echoes on leveling up or upgrading your weapon.
>have to be careful before going to boss
Which also encourages you to just run past everything, which is a shitty practice. Wish we just had fogwalls like in DMC blocking the way until you kill the pack of enemies, but that would interfere with more open-ended levels. Infinite aggro ranges and long, interruptable animations for entering the boss fog would suffice, I guess.
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>>197845416
I think that 99 matches you more often with 120 as well
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>>197844778
You need all the help you can get if you have 0 vials, did you had fun while dying like a retard?
Bonus question: do you have trouble breathing and must represent that by using this needless spacing?
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>>197844979
>only cool kids deserve to have fun playing a game if you're not as skilled don't even bother
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>>197845416
literally the "I-I'm scared of the big bad R*ddit" meta
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>>197842318
>>197843185

While I appreciate what you two are saying from a gameplay POV, you should consider the significance of the bonfire in DaS1 and the Dream in BB respectfully. There's no point posting a tl;dr on their themes and whatnot, but the bonfire in DaS1 felt much more alive in than in DaS2/3 due to its safety and usefulness, whereas the Dream in BB also feels this way. Basically, their importance is mirrored by their mechanics, which is the same in DeS, and absent in DaS2/3

If you want to make the game feel more practical there's a ton of additional things you can do, such as including bonfire ascetics in every game, giving you an infinite homeward bone/BHM (oh wait...) and so on. Ultimately, creativity tops practicality in many aspects

Furthermore, you have no right to complain about loading screens when a good chunk of this general have endured hundreds of PSN loading screens while savescumming rare gems
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Does anyone know off hand at what arc it becomes better to use one +65 scaling than flat arc dmg gems?
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>>197845416
For the long dead BL80 meta

>>197845724
99 still avoids being invaded by 120s
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>>197845416
98s can't be invaded by 120s.
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>>197845942
Exactly. You have to be this cool to enter the ride.
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>go to 98 to get as much of an advantage as you can over the 80 meta
>get upset when people do the same with 98

Why is 98 still a thing? 80 is dead and you're only cucking yourself out of activity because muh r*ddit
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>>197845724
This makes sense, anon, thanks
>>197845942
I really enjoyed the FC /bbg/ had against Facebook and Reddit in summer 2015. Lots of chikage builds and tons of salt in the mudpit. I took one of my /KIRK/ builds and loved it
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>>197844979
>>197845031
Okay so the argument here is that it should stay because it punishes you for being bad, but that it's also a nonfactor to you anyway since the game showers you in echos and coldbloods (which don't give you diddle dick in echos until the end game anyway) So does it actually matter or not? Because what you seem to be telling me here is that it doesn't matter at all and was never an issue for you ever.
>>197845530
So you're going to sit there and tell me that everyone who played Dark Souls ever always runs past enemies to get to the boss on their first run. I don't fucking buy it.
>>197845583
I don't understand how having to buy vials makes Bloodborne a smart boy game since it doesn't really change how you spend your resource.
>level up, upgrade weapon, repair weapons and armor with left over souls as needed
to
>level up, upgrade weapon, then buy ammo and healing with left over echos as needed
It's almost the exact same thing but more in your face. I do agree that enemies should have infinite aggro range, their AI needs a way to circumvent doorways if they're going to do that and for some reason From has never seen it fit to do that.
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>>197845843
I did have fun fighting early games bosses I struggled with when I was first starting out, that's why it was extra un-fun having to take a break and farm instead, which is my whole point
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how do I get this asshole to stop being a bully
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>>197845990
Depends on the weapon and what gem you're comparing it to. Plus some attacks benefit from more Flat damage than %, like multi-hits
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Was my sacrifice in vain?
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>>197846625
Parry, don't stray too far or get too close
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>>197846565
Why do you bother arguing? Voice a flaw about this game and /bbg/ will immediately try to defend it repeating shit like "Y-You just gotta git gud, bro"?
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>>197846625
Just parry him bro
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Can anybody help me with the first chalice dungeon undead giant? I'm really not feeling like dealing with his shenanigans right now. Ringing at the fog, password is taconite.
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>>197846227
Doing sub-100 builds taught me how to git ok, and that base end is viable. It forces you to learn proper minmaxing. You can do a great variety of builds that are somewhat balanced at bl98, plus it makes frcs tense and hell to spelunk
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>>197846806
Psst... your samefag is showing
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>>197846735
Rest assured i got that fucker. Sadly no layer 4 but regardless thanks for coming Cybil and Funker. It was eventful.
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>>197847046
Nice to see that you have no argument and have to resort to shit like "y-you're samefagging"
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>>197846625
Tons of strats

My favourite nowadays is to glug lead, pop pellets and smash this shitter into the dirt with a stun weapon, snorting vials and glugging more lead when he backs off. A good rally weapon and guidance 2 helps you punk him
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>>197847062
Thanks for hosting, it was fun. Did you webm the ladder pig?
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>>197846625
Amyarm does very good against him, surprisingly. You sorta can just backpedal and do uncharged R2s over and over because they sorta outrange his reach, he will just walk into those and get staggered. Just look out for the boomerang shotels.
Another good thing about Amyarm uncharged R2 is that it does thrust damage, so it is actually pretty good against Kin as well.
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>>197846640
I was thinking if the converted axe if you have got any more insight
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>>197846889
Still need help?
Booting right up
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someone spoonfeed me a visual of alfred's sikkrit tattoo that zullie gifted us with i don't have access to my PS4
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>>197847543
Obviously not since there are three faggots who don't bother to post and just cuck people out of co-op
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>>197847241
Are you comparing a CA Radial with a Brainsucker Radial? And what gems are filling the other slots?
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>>197841118
>Have you dropped the oil urn that sets the room with the beast patients and the crucified bsb on fire?
WHAT
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>>197846565
You're being intentionally dense at this point and I'm almost certain you're a /v/ contrarian.

Limited stock exists to punish you for being a shitter, aka, wasting items, not examining options (coldblood, marking out, coop).

But if you're not a shitter, it usually won't matter, since many options are available to help you.

But the threat is always there for various factors (NG+, PVP, chalices), so stay being a non-shitter aka gitting gud.

It cannot be explained easier than this. I even spaced it out for you so you wouldn't get confused.
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How do I jump? I've done it before but not sure how I pulled it off. Trying to make the jump to the abandoned workshop
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>>197847543
Yeah, just loaded the game back up after a month or so and saw that I was here and really didn't wanna deal with it haha. Thanks for the help.
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>>197847174
Trying to figure out how to do that right now.
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>>197847719
Hold circle to run, tap circle again to jump. But don't jump for that part, roll off at the right part, then roll off to the right on the platform you land on.
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>>197847719
Pressing circle while running
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>>197847787
Transfer it to a usb and use webm for retards
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>>197847719
Tap circle after running
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>>197847719
To jump you need to press circle while running
But to make it to the old workshop you just need to walk off that wooden space between the actual bridge and the platform where it starts
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>>197847679
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AC2kfTVQVMc
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I encountered this weird glitch while fighting the Cleric Beast.

He just froze/his AI bugged out, but my character did too. No matter what direction I held the control stick in, my character could only run in a straight line (as you can see in the Webm, just straight into the side of the bridge).

Has anyone had a similar issue?
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>>197846565
>DaS
Use estus > die > use estus again
Punishment:
1. Enemies are back and you have to do it again.
2. Hollowing takes away part of HP.
Solution to punishment:
1. Run past enemies, get where you died and have souls you lost back.
2. Use humanity to restore former HP.

>BB
Use vials > die > use more vials > die > out of vials
Punishment:
1. Enemies are back and you have to do it again.
2. Out of/low on healing items so you can't heal as much as before.
Solution to punishment:
1. Run past enemies, get where you died and have echoes you lost back. Doing this is punished because now you has less potential vials in the form of loot and echoes to buy vials.
2. Manage better the resourses so it doesn't happen again. Use of rally recommended.

Bloodborne forces you to play better or you will have an even harder time. Dark Souls makes you throw yourself at the wall until it breaks.
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>>197848049
Is that snake sanders?
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>>197848264
No, it's supposed to be Richard from Tales of Graces.
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>>197847716
you seem to be unable to grasp that even when trying to manage vials by only using them at important moments like when you actually have a chance to finally kill boss some people are just That Bad when starting out, shitter or not they still don't deserve to have their time wasted by having to farm also you're bullying the wrong person about my spacing misshap
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Thanks for the help albatross! I waited for a while and figured you were the only one to show up. If somebody else was trying to help sorry for missing you, I'll keep ringing for the rest of this dungeon with the same password.
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>>197847667
I was thinking about using a converted arc axe on an arc 30 build. So im thinking the gem setup would probably be either +65arc scaling/+24.8%arc/+24.8%arc or +24.8%arc/flat arc/flat arc
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>>197848049
I’ve had exactly that happen but on Laurence
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Does putting Viola's rally gem in a gun influence the rally potential of your melee weapon?
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>>197848506
Looks more like snake sanders to be though. could you post sliders?
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>it's another redditors fighting redditors over game mechanics thread
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>>197848762
No I can't. Sorry.
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>>197848506
That hair is way too yellow. Like a buncha macroons
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>>197848540
>shitter or not they still don't deserve to have their time wasted by having to farm
Miyazaki said they deserve it.
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>>197847716
I'm not going to bother any more, but fuck you for being a condescending asshole for no reason.
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>>197849029
It's not a very good one, yes.
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>>197849113
>anon tries to teach anon why he's bad at the game and how to not be bad at the game
>FUCK YOU TOO ANON
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>>197849382
I'm not the person struggling jackass, I haven't had an issue with farming vials since my first run of the game.
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>>197848061
Just because your estus is replenished doesn't mean that it enables shitters to breeze through the game. If they can barely hurt a boss without using all estus' they won't suddenly be able to brute force themselves through the fight. They'll just die again and again until the can do it. Farming vials just add annoyance. It adds nothing much to getting gud. I'd want players to throw themselves at that wall instead of erecting unrelated redundant small obstacles in front of it.
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>>197849036
>Miyazaki said they deserve it.
Miyazaki is a piece of shit
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>Whirligig's charged r2's main hit comes out delayed after a few extra ticks of damage
Anyone else bothered by this? Sometimes the enemies tank the first ticks and hit me before the pancake and most of the damage arrive.
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>>197849623
Thank fuck you're not miayzaki.
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>>197848667
Okay, well getting two 24.8% Arc gems is tough, and Flat Arc Radials from Sucker very rarely have Arc primaries. Assuming you do get these gems with maximum Flat Arc on the Sucker Radials, the AR comes out as:

CA+2*24.8=514(+30)
24.8+2*Flat Arc=382(+150)

A more realistic setup would probably be a BAH Arc Radial, Watcher or Bribri Arc Triangle, and either another BAH Radial, Cold Abyssal, or Flat Arc Radial. Between those 3, a Cold Abyssal should come out on top even with 30 Arc, unless the setup with two BAH Radials has +Arc on both gems.
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>>197847654
She wasn't lying when she said it's impossible to see. It's the dot tattoo, shrunken down almost as small as it will got, and basically skin colored. Why in the world they bothered to add it, we may never know.
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>>197849967
Thank you! How curious indeed...
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>>197849623
I wonder if they put this mechanic in to force people to take a break from boss fights, fight some low tier enemies, and come back with a clear head. I bet playtesting casuals got stubborn at gascan/bsb and refused to actually learn the fights, so they added the farming for them. While I agree it’s not perfect, I have gotten used to it an accepted it. Question, do you think bullets should also be fully replenished on death? How about other consumables?
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>>197849491
Then why are you complaining? And why are you complaining about someone else having counter arguments?

>>197849623
But they are not obstacles, they are steps tp teach you what you are doing wrong by being more careful, paying more attention and trying different things. With estus you can do that but with far less consequences to your actions, it's a permanent easy mode.
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>>197846098
>webm
W-what?
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>>197849949
Wow ty anon! So 30 is right around the threshold where abyssals become better.
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>>197850338
Because I sympathize with their issue with the game? And complaining about someone have counter arguments, for fuck's sake man don't pull that shit you said the exact same shit as every other person for it and I just don't fucking agree with it and it was clear we were going to go in circles with neither of us having our minds changed, especially when you went about it like a condescending asshole for no reason.
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>>197840083
Oh damn.
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>>197850231
Vials are a good system in my opinion because they enable players to go on for longer without having to sit at a bonfire to refresh. You can go through an entire chalice without having to stop and it also incentivizes actually fighting enemies you'd often just ignore because you can get Blood Vials at the same time.
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>>197850345
They are part of the glorious few who managed to farm the amount of vials needed to get past Amelia. Look at their brilliant tactics of saving vials for when it's truly necessary.
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>>197850876
They could've done something like make it so that you always start with like 5 or 10 free vials, and pull another 15/10 from your reserves.
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>>197848540
I'm not saying no one ever had to farm, we all did, we were all shitters, but there came a point playing the game where we stopped being shitters and learned, and could tell other people how not to be shitters. Everyone learns over time what to do. You don't need to be a 13 character NG+7 BL4 Korean master, you just need to have your wits about you and not waste your very obviously limited healing items. I would like to think even the shittiest shitter realizes they need to try and handle their limited items better because they might run out. This makes the shitter take a step forward to getting gud.

Also I'm not bullying about a spacing mishap? Or at least I don't mean to. I didn't know anyone made one.
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>>197849113
I'm sorry you don't have an argument and resort to hurt fee fees
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>>197851292
Someone get miyazaki on the fucking line, this anon has figured it out
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>ring the small resonant bell in the hunter's dream with the cuck rune on just for shits and giggles
>get actually summoned fairly frequently
I don't know whether to be amused by the fact that being able to summon for Gehrman is not as obscure as I thought it was, or to be slightly mad that people willingly ruin one of the game's best boss battles for them
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After about BSB I had absolutely no problems with vials and after that pre area of hemlock lane (with the dozen shooty guys and banana doggos) no problems with QSBs.
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anyone from /bbg/ manage to get with fighter.pl on bloodborne?
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>>197852156
Who?
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>>197852156
Literally who
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I'm still baffled that people come to 4chan and talk about some shitty literal who streamer/youtuber as though they are widely known or something.
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>>197850231
Yeah, I'd probably make bullets refresh too. It doesn't change anything apart from what I see as a potential waste of time (farming). The levels are designed around the players having them, other items are more like the crutches others here assume vials to be. You also can't buy many of them until you've beaten certain bosses and even then I don't think anyone feels like they need them to succeed.
>>197850338
Again, a lot of times players die due to enemy patterns. So it doesn't help to go back to earlier enemies with patterns. Especially when we're talking bosses.
>>197849914
>>197851551
Sounds like you're getting emotional.
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>>197852234
>>197852210
he mostly does dark souls stuff
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>>197852210
>>197852234
Not him, but it's very cancerous Dark Souls 3 e-celeb that says "casul" unironically and spends his time parry spamming and trying to push people off edges with Force.
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>>197851391
The thing is a lot of players will never reach the actual sweetspot of things starting to "click" since they get too frustrated in the beginning due to lack of resources and the general newness of learning a game's system and just give up. Obviously a lot of people here will just laugh a Good Riddance but Bloodborne is my favorite game and it makes me very sad that it's hard to recommend for more casual players since getting past that first roadblock can be too much of a chore.

Had there not been the penalty of having to farm; they'd be able to keep playing, get better and better and then hopefully have such a good time they'll replay it multiple times and try new builds etc etc (and maybe one day even shit on players not gud enough like the fine folks in here)
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What becomes unavailable to do after beating Rom? Just want to make sure I don't miss anything
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>>197852489
>Sounds like you're getting emotional.

I can't actually tell if >>197851551 was meant to be sarcastic or not.
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>>197852489
>It doesn't change anything apart from what I see as a potential waste of time (farming)
Videogames are a waste of time

>other items are more like the crutches others here assume vials to be
>I don't think anyone feels like they need them to succeed
Are they crutches or not?
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>>197853305
>Videogames are a waste of time
why are you even here
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>>197853054
https://i.imgur.com/Uzg8XI6.png

>>197851292
What if you got the 5 or 10 free vials, but when you got the the research hall you find patients hooked up to some apparatus. Break the apparatus/kill the patients and get a rune that boosts healing % but the free vials stop. It could have been the system the church used (via lamps, I guess) to keep their soldiers all addled and combat ready.
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>>197853005
Who cares if you can't recommend something you like to others?

The important thing is, that you like it.
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>>197853305
4chan is a waste of time too, fag
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>>197851694
I help people with that fight all the time on my twink. I ring while waiting at the SRRC. You gotta do it right if you don't want to totally ruin it. I equip a weak +6 hunter axe just for Gehrman so he doesn't die so quickly, and I try not to gank him so that he just goes back and forth between between each of us in awesome little exchanges. The beckoner still almost never dies because I just draw aggro off him
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>>197848305
I don't understand.
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>>197853461
Because recommending a game to someone means they might end up liking it too and I can have fun playing with and talking to them about it later? I hope you too find some friends with shared interests in the future anon
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>>197853824
The image attached here belongs to ENBposter, further proving the theory that he and Spongebob-kun are the same.
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>>197853824
ENBfag is shitposter-kun
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>>197853005
Sorry but this is a game. In the same way a person needs to know how to read to enjoy a book, you need to know how to play to enjoy a game. You don't need to be good at it, you just need the minimun amount.
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>>197853467
Living is a waste of time
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>People are still replying to v-tier bait
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>>197852892
So the classic ds3 pvp youtuber?
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I like Valtr but I killed him for the helmet the first time I saw him.
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>>197854229
I killed him on my last run and realised I need to kill more NPCs to listen to their enranged dialogue.
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>>197854229
>>197854393
You people are full of Vermin.
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>>197853947
>>197853969

Sponge is not me but at this point I don't honestly care. I'm using that other anon's advice and fading away. If spongefag wants to take the blame for my faggotry he's free to do so.
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>streets filled with monsters
>survivors safely make it to the chapel

How? Especially for the Nun?
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>>197854505
You have openly advocated for the guy in the past, this doesn't help your case.
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>>197849949
wait I think I might have read this wrong. what is the +30 coming from with the 514(+30)? it seems like the abyssal is way better than just flat
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>>197854574
Blue elixirs
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>>197854163
>come to /bbg/ for spelunking and comfy wheel memes
>300 posts about vials
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>>197852489
>make bullets refreshable
They already are, just pop bloodbullets and rally HP back, there, infinite bullets.
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Okay, complete retard here. If I am using blade of Mercy and get a gem that increases thrust damage but decreases physical damage, do I lose any benefits from the physical going down? The weapon is pure thrust so it's sort of confusing
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>>197854776
Wanna spelunk?
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sd58n3g3 if anyone wants to jump in
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>>197854681
From the 24.8% Arc Abyssals. Each can have +15 Arc if you're really lucky, one of the gems has to be an OoS for that though.
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>>197854884
Not them but I got one already made
Give a few minutes to boot up
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>>197853096
Oh, you might be right. I made a mistake.
>>197853305
>Are they crutches or not?
Bad choice of wording on my side. I meant that extra items shift the balance of power more towards the player. They're not taken for granted unlike vials (and to a lesser degree bullets) which are necessary for the level and boss design pretty much. Once they run out of elemental papers for a boss it doesn't mean the average player is fucked compared to running out of vials.
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>>197854832
It's not Pure Thrust, most of the attacks are just Physical with a side of Arc. Thrust gems only improve Thrust attacks, but do nothing for Physical attacks
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>>197854443
>>>/wsg/2005691
Tell me his voice doesn't make your wee wee hard
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Hosting a spelunk!!
FRC Lower Loran
Glyph: xd2ytv88
Password: sieg
Beckoning now on layer 1 my dudes!
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>>197853005
I don't know if I agree with that, anon. This general is fairly renowned as a pretty friendly, helpful place. We'll tell you to fuck off because we want you to experience the game blind, but then come back to us and talk. The Souls-Bloodborne community has two extreme sides of lol gitgud faget but also unimaginably helpful autists writing wikis and guides to help people. Git gud isn't an insult, it's a term encompassing a lot of meaning. People also tend to know they're getting into a 'hard' and 'frustrating' game with something like this. That's part of the general appeal.

Autists like us exist to give lost newfags a nudge in the right direction because we know what to do, and maybe we can try and help impart some of that knowledge onto them so they have an easier time than we did.
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>>197855719
Room for 1 more!
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>>197855950
Coming
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Am interested in using Stake Driver my str/skl are 25/25
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>>197855867
Speak for yourself fag. My fully gemmed BL 43 twink is waiting for him at Burgertown.
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>>197856104
+25 to Str
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>>197854967
For each of the perfect arcane abyssals, you only get 5 more AR than you would with just a 27.2% arcane gem
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Why is it that all of the split-damage weapons that are too physical to justify using nourishing gems on have their damage split with arcane? Is it because most enemies are not particularly strong against arcane, and hunters with good physical armor are usually weak to it? Would the weapons like amy arm, burial blade and blade of mercy be more effective if they did the same DPS but only one damage type?
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What's a good name for a The Boss lookalike character that's not The Boss?
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>>197856708
The Boss
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>>197856618
No eason aside from some lore bullshit. Buffed amyarm would look beautiful with all the twisty ttwirly moves.
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>>197856708
The Bossu
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>>197856618
Probably for Lore and to keep them from being buffed for who knows why. If the Arc was converted to Phys then in most cases yeah it'll be better
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>>197856708
The Master
Master ____
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>>197856708
The Joy
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>>197856708
Revolver Brocelot
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Layer 1 report!
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>Bunda joins
>Sinister bell resonates...
>Sinister bell resonates again
>Wtf Miyazaki, let them invade
>no other messages
>Pre-lamp confirmed
>Doggo bork'd
>Wolves almost fucked me over
>I spot a cuck in a ring
>Oh the invader invaded after all
>netcode is amazing
>time skip
>uncanny bom as treasure
>main layer smol
>big bell being ring almost froze my game lol
>Silverbeast as boss
Moving onto layer 2 with a spot open
See >>197855719
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Why is it bad to add a gem that has +15 flat fire to your weapon that does split physical / arcane damage (for example)? 15 damage is 15 damage. How would adding that 15 to the weapon's already substantial physical damage instead be so much better? Yes, the enemy has different defenses for each damage type, but the % damage reduction is the same regardless of the damage number amount, right? Or is there some convoluted reason why this wouldn't be true?
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Was something new really discovered in the dungeons or was it just save-edited into the game by Zullie?

Also considering the timing of the news about the comic I guess we can expect the announcement of BB2 from PSX, right? Honestly I was more interested into a new IP, this is gonna be a new Dark Souls 2. I'm tired of the same old shit, I want something that feels fresh by From Software.
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>tfw suck at writing reports as a host
>always too late to spelunks or get cucked midway

Maybe someday.
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>>197858246
You don't need to write reports.
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>>197857815
>babysitting my cousin's daughter for the day
>can't spelunk
My master plan of brainwashing a loli to give me cheek kisses, hugs and panty shots better be worth it
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>>197858493
Why don't you have a seat over there?
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>>197858246
Just post whenever you kill a boss and you're good.
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>>197858246
If anything fun or interesting happens you just green text it, it isn't harder than that.
You don't have to detail every exact moment
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>>197854579
>you have openly advocated for the guy in the past
I just agreed on the whole "I want Egg to fart on my face" thing months ago being insufferable, Sponge's autism has been since then much more insufferable and I find the co-operators' reports actually genuinely fun. If Sponge is blamed for my faggotry it's only a negative for him really. If he continues his autismal faggotry he's gonna end up with his real identity being traced back to him and if he gets blamed for being the enbfag it might result in him getting a talking-to from very unamused streamer who's mentioned having stalker issues on-stream and he's gonna be somewhat pissed off at whoever he thinks is responsible for the autistic creeping on his sister. All that would make almost anyone happy but I'm pissed off if people think the sisposting was done by spongefag. Not because I want to parade with that infamy but because it pisses on people who wanted to help me and stop the sisposting faggotry and also blogging about my recovery.

>>197856149
How do you even get an opportunity to invade when that area is so tiny? People fighting Yurie?
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>>197790691
AAAAAHHHHH I HATE PTHUMERIAN ELDER

I REALLY REALLY HATE HIM
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>>197858243
Some reddit person found a flaming Undead Giant, his sickle had a fire enchantment and it hadn't been seen since pre-release footage.
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>>197858002
It's not that bad, but adding +15 Fire/Bolt to a weapon with different damage types means that +15 Damage will be cut through it's own defenses, in the end it'll come out at 3 or 4 more damage at best in most situations. Adding +15 Phys or Arc to a split Phys/Arc weapon means you get the full +15 damage.
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>>197858858
>How do you even get an opportunity to invade when that area is so tiny?
It also makes it easy to find them, ring on top of the stairs or near the bottom door and you can pretty much figure out where they are. I have some problems with Damian spamming AoE and CB though.
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>>197858858
There's three NPC summons there, and the Old Hunter Bell triggers the Bell Maiden. Also, Rom is probably one of the most frequently summoned for bosses.
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>>197858909
Yeah but I read it was edited into the game by Zullie from the unused content, it's not actual in-game content.
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>>197858493
How old is she? And I hope you don't plan on making her sit on your lap while you watch movies together or anything! You also better not prepare suggestive-shaped foods like bananas or hotdogs dor her to eat, I forbid it!

>>197858243
PSX is probably gonna be even more lame than PGW honestly. For some reason a lot of people have been conned into thinking there's gonna be a BB2 or a DeS remaster but I think those people are exercising some wishful thinking.
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>>197859524
4 months, 5 years and 8 months until the perfect head patting age.
At least I can't mess it up more than pic related.
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>>197859085
that's what I mean, I've heard people say this before. It doesn't make sense mathematically. Both damage types have to go through defenses no matter what, and the amount of damage doesn't matter for that. If an enemy has 220 fire defense, that's 22% damage reduction right there. So what's 78% of +15? 11.7 fire damage - not just a mere "3 or 4 more damage." 3 or 4 would be be like 75%-85% damage reduction for fire. It'd be the same overall damage added as with the fire (+11.7) if you put a gem with +15 flat physical damage in your split-physical weapon and the enemy had 220 physical defense.
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I've matched up the offsets for how faces are stored in the savedata compared to the faceparam entries, so I can now just type faces into my Favorites through the save editor, which should speed up the process by quite a bit.

Here you can see:
>Iosefka, Arianna, Adella
>Djura's Pal, Yahar'Gul Hunter (Claws), Henryk
>Edgar, Yurie

I messed up and thought I was writing in Djura and his pal, but got his pal and the Yahar'Gul Hunter instead, if you were wondering about the rather weird assortment.
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>>197859994
Also here's a comedic blooper from when I wasn't quite sure what the offsets were.
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>>197859512
That's not possible.
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Layer 2 report!
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>No pre-lamp, fugg
>Bell Maiden right in front of lamp
>Ol Funk invades again
>Madman never knew what hit him
>Funk spotted, he really hates pottery
>The ol sneak a roo was all it took to banish the pot smasher
>CLERICS
>Oh shit bonus area within layer
>Bridges
>Loot raided. Was wisdom
>Back to main layer. Let's go past this door
>Fucking spiders hate Faye.
>Where's the bell bit- *spitroasted by 2 clerics*
>Finally get past this hell room
>I outtraded a cleric kek
>No pre-boss
>Third time's the charm on Chainball fag
Layer 3 time!
Still got room for a cooperator
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>>197859994
Iosefka sliders, please and thank you
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>>197859994
>Henryk
so you be sayin
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>>197859994
>Yurie is bald
>Arianna looks like a slutty version of the Doll
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>>197859994
>Choir waifu is bald
HAAHA
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>>197859994
Please tell me there's a Micolash somewhere, you don't need to deliver now just tell me there is Micolash sliders
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>>197860316
Check the archive
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>>197859994
WE
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>>197859524
>PSX is probably gonna be even more lame than PGW honestly. For some reason a lot of people have been conned into thinking there's gonna be a BB2 or a DeS remaster but I think those people are exercising some wishful thinking.
Nigger some day From Software HAS to announce the 3 games it's working on. Their last game was released almost 2 years ago.

>>197860101
If that's true than there could still be some enemies/loot that we haven't found.
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>>197860162
SRRC'ing!
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So.. is Spongebob-kun really ENBfag?
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>>197860316
I'm sorry, anon.
It looks like an intern had half an hour to try and copy the cutscene model as best they could in facegen.
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>>197860774
Yep
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>>197860204
I'm working on a video with all of them now.
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>>197860804
Truly the pinnacle of beauty.
Also the owner of a build unlike any other.
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>>197859512
Incorrect, he was found legitimately in the game.
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>>197860804
BRUH LOOK AT THIS DUDE
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>>197860743
Waiting at lamp on L3
make sure to have password correct
Also might be afk. I have a delivery truck coming in a few mins
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>>197860804
what the fuck does he really look like that in game? I can't see behind his mensis cage very well. I thought he used the same model as in his cutscene
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>>197860774
Possibly, ENBfag did point out last thread that it was a falseflagger but who knows
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>>197860774
No.
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>>197860848
but look at >>197858858
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>>197859885
>that's what I mean, I've heard people say this before. It doesn't make sense mathematically. Both damage types have to go through defenses no matter what, and the amount of damage doesn't matter for that. If an enemy has 220 fire defense, that's 22% damage reduction right there. So what's 78% of +15? 11.7 fire damage - not just a mere "3 or 4 more damage." 3 or 4 would be be like 75%-85% damage reduction for fire. It'd be the same overall damage added as with the fire (+11.7) if you put a gem with +15 flat physical damage in your split-physical weapon and the enemy had 220 physical defense.

You misunderstand how defense works.

small amounts of damage get eaten for 90%, while large amounts of damage barely get reduced at all. Thats why you never want +15 fire/bolt on a weapon that doesnt deal fire or bolt.
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>>197861082
The pass is still sieg right?
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>>197861229
Yes.
sieg
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Would an ARC/BLT edgelord build with the burial blade + chikage and hunters tools work?
I wanna embrace the edge and ham it up.
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>>197860804
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Since when does /dsg-bbg/ hate ENB?
What a bunch of newfags.
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One thing that might be interesting, if Yurie did have hair she'd be blonde.
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>>197861358
Arc/ Blt often only has min req in skl and str so a burial blade would be absoloutely shit on it.
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>>197861358
Not really, since BB doesnt scale with Blt and the Arc scaling/base damage is poor. You can't convert it either. Chikage and Tools does work obviously
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>>197861436
blame e-celebs being faggots in general and ENBnigger
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>>197861358
Anything with the Chikage is ass. Use the Bloodletter instead.
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>>197861436
/bbg/ and /dsg/ don't hate or love any streamers in particular, we're here to play the games not watch them. The "hate" is towards ENB's stalker, who blogposts
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>>197861440
>that face
Too many eyes, methinks
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>>197861259
Seems like Miyazaki isn't connecting the tubes. I'll keep searching for a few minutes
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>>197861436
I like ENB and generally find myself in agreement with him, but I miss his polished videos. It hurts to see him summoning and R1 spamming and playing like a slob because he's distracted by chat.
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>>197861164
>ENBfag pointed out last thread that there is a falseflagger but who knows
Yup. There's been a couple of times on /dsg/ and /bbg/ when someone posted an image of enb's sister and asked sone questions, probably to probe if it triggered any responses. Probably got filtered because he got no angry responses. I can only guess what was the deal with the maria image. Maybe he just happened to save the image with the original filename and him being confused with me was an accident or maybe he intended it from the beginning. I've personally stopped using too many Maria images here because an anon told me pretty aptly that it only invites derailment and especially if I get defensive after being called out. I am genuine when I say I like you guys and /dsg/ and don't want to continue being a bother. I really do appreciate the support and advice that got me on the right track.
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>>197861924
Okay
Groceries just came so I'll be organizing them. Hopefully you're in before I'm done
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Oh, and just for people that missed it, I'll post this one too.
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>>197861832
I thought we hated vaati
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>>197861213
what a wacky formula
thanks
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>>197862146
ah yes, time to praise the good blood!
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>>197862146
He looks good as fuck.
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>>197861832
>streamers
I hate all the streamers except ENB.
>>197862019
Yep.
>>197862071
>an image of enb's sister
Post. Never seen it.
>>197862158
Of course we do. He's a huge faggot who doesn't do any real job.
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>>197861440
All that arc gave her cancer
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>>197862165
Also I should note that that is the formula for DEFENSE, all enemies have defense values which you can see on the wiki and other places, players gain "physical defense" (its actually all kinds of damage) by leveling up. Its why a bl100 is tankier than a bl10 even if both have the same VIT.

Damage Reduction is a different stat and comes from armour, it works as a simple % calculation. Most enemies dont have any, which is why you typically do less damage per swing to players than enemies. But some enemies do have Damage Reduction values that arnt really listed anywhere. EG Amygdala's legs have some super heavy damage reduction, while bosses' heads usually have negative damage reduction, and breaking a limb temporarily gives negative damage reduction as well.
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Strange how Spongebob-kun stopped posting after he deleted the Maria image.
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>>197862680
>Post, I've never seen it
I deleted her pics from my devices as promised. You can find the pic on her twitter twitter @epicnamesis and the pic is taken outside where she's smiling at the camera in a face closeup and she's wearing a nose ring.

>>197862019
>summoning
In his recently streamed BB 100% run he only summoned for Chalices and played the story solo. He went into Old Hunters over SL130 though so he breezed past Ludwig and everthing that wasn't Orphan.
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Did he just fall through the fucking floor? Someone webm that
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>>197863264
Looked like he teleported to the abyss.
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>>197863203
>as promised.
Uh?

She looks good.
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>>197863347
That's the 2nd time I've seen weirdly teleporting enemies today.
For some reason my ps4 didn't let my capture it, I hope you did though
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Layer 3 and final report!!!
---
>No pre-lamp
>No funky invasion
>I forgot almost everything rip
>2 red jellies somewhere
>Lots of waiting for Cybil
>Pre-Boss confirmed!
>Queen Killer got bonk'd
>Base End meme almost fucked me over
>Wisdom looted
>Onto the boss!
>Elder. He fucking teleported off the arena and died
Thanks for coming along Faye and Cybil! Also thank you for invading Funk
Gonna make webms
>>197863264
Working on it
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>>197863203
Chalices are where a player's skill really shines, though. The story is a cakewalk for someone who's played it as many times as he has.
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>>197862780
The guide has specific damage reduction values (like the ones for clothing) listed for every enemy / boss in the game.
So why does arcane damage hurt pthumerians so much for example? Is it just because they have such a low clothes-style DEF for arcane? It's only about 5%. Or is there some additional modifier that makes arcane do even more damage to them than your listed AR, because they are considered "weak" to it?
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>>197863560
Thanks for hosting, even though it was short, it was really fun.
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Oh, also, the following NPCs can't be made in character creation without access to the save editor because they utilize the hidden sliders:
>Narrow Minded Man
>Lonely Old Dear
>Suspicious Beggar
>Uknown Vampireman
>Forgotten Madman
>Madman's Escort

And the following have placeholder faces:
>Annalise
>Eileen
>The Crow of Cainhurst
>Nightmare Hunter (Axe)
>Chalice NPC (LHB)
>Chalice NPC (Keeper)
>Chalice NPC (Cainhurst)
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>>197863484
>Uh?
People hate me because I developed an intense crush and near-obsession for her and had a fantasy of Marcus bumping uglies with her I still maintain that there's something weird going on between them and used to post her pics and the pics where she appears with her brother with incest fantasy filenames on /dsg/ , /v/ and /bbg/ until people started calling me out on it being weird. I relapsed slightly but got my shit together after I felt bad when marcus made a mention of having stalker issues on stream and deleted her pics so the obsession doesn't take over me again because I really do want to stop to not hurt people involved.
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>>197863560
Ah, the ol' Elder teleporting off the boss area glitch. Viscerals tend to make him do that
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Any advice on Elder? Some of his attacks in the second phase feel like they can't be dodged. The tracking is insane. I can beat him, but not reliably.
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>>197863950
Eileen is the Wet Nurse confirmed canon
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>>197863950
>placeholder faces
What does this mean exactly? Like there's just a generic nothing face under there with sliders are zero?
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>have finished up to Mergo on this character
>thinking about what all I have left to do
>remember the crow
Time to bust out the Jack Daniels, its gonna be a long night
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>>197864643
yes
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>>197864570
BSE spam, parry, or spam r1/transformation attack with a fast weapon. You can break his hyper armor sometimes
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>>197864083
Jesus christ. What the fuck is wrong with you? Just fap to the thought like everybody else
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>>197864770
Is it a white or black placeholder?
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>>197865047
Really anon?
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>>197864924
He's Spongebob-kun. What do you expect?
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>>197864643
>>197864770
Close, the sliders are all just 128.
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>>197865163
He's asking the important questions
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>>197865180
I dunno who that is, I don't lurk anymore, I'm here only for PSX.
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>>197865163
Look, we just have know for sure
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So the church caused basically all of the problems in the game through starting the practice of blood ministration, right?
Why does everybody like them and Alfred so much then?
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>>197865571
The new shitposter who posted the exact same file that ENBfag used to post. He quickly deleted it. Both are resident autists and that's more than enough proof that they're one and the same.
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>>197803457
No.
I went into the game hype as fuck about hunting down werewolves and once it shifted over into eldritch horror territory I went "FUCK YES NOW I GET TO KICK ALIENS OFF OF MY PLANET" and the combat mechanics perfectly enable this type of hyper aggressive gung-ho attitude.
I regularly run through the game listening to DOOM midis now.
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>>197865180
I'm not spongefag and I detest him.

>>197864924
It began as normal curiosity and research into if marcus was putting his inflicted organ inside her treasure box but then I started getting infatuated with her myself. I started fantasizing about various scenarios where and how they started seeing each other as partners, the delicious taboo of forbidden love and the act itself. Then I started self inserting into the fantasy as enb and finally just moved on into admitting I have a crush on Jasmine.

>>197864734
Just use the stairs m8. And he's not a huge deal if you're properly leveled.
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>>197863950
That makes sense for the Tomb Prospector with the LHB. I remember seeing it up close once, it was completely smooth with no hair at all, it was like an alien.
Then again, I found him in Isz, so he probably should look like an alien.
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>>197865632
Alfred is dedicated to his goal, provides lore, co op, and hunts cucks for fun
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>>197865632
Because the Healing Church keeps most of Yharnam in the dark. Hell, even most of the Church's acolytes are ignorant of the role they play in the ongoing crisis. Take Adella, for example. The only reason you're able to figure out what's going on is because you have the ability to read item descriptions.
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>>197866247
>It began as normal curiosity and research into if marcus was putting his inflicted organ inside her treasure box but then I started getting infatuated with her myself.
I don't care dude.
Get out of your basement and get some pussy.
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>>197866247
>detesting yourself

That's not healthy.
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>>197866980
>Get out of your basement and get some pussy.

Not that guy, but easier said than done.

Shockingly, chicks aren't lining themselves up for a 27 year old retail employee who's passionate about Bloodborne.
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>>197863264
>tfw broke a nail while making webms
hopefully it was worth it
anyways; here's that elder webm I promised

1/5
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>>197867325
2/5
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>>197867236
Do you have any other selling points? There has to be something.
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>>197867325
Absolute kek.
on my end it looked like he teleported straight through the floor.
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>>197867529
>There has to be something
You'd be surprised.
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>>197867525
3/5
>>197867529
ye.
how much do you have saved up anon? what's your credit like?
any debt?
education history?
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>>197867236
Workout a bit at the gym, you don't even need to get swole just average looking, it boosts the shit out of your confidence. Clean yourself up, get a shave get a haircut get some sun sometimes. Go to a bar, contain your autism, lie through your teeth about hobbies, interests, what you do for a living. pound puss.
99% of picking up chicks in a bar is not dropping your spaghetti everywhere when you open your mouth
>t. guy who realized being a virgin was entirely a state of mind
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>>197867696
4/5
Old stuff I haven't posted. Got quite the backlog
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>>197867892
And last one for now
5/5
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>>197865632
The church very likely keeps 99% of this shit on lockdown, and even then likely don't truly understand it. Yharnam is a theocracy, the Church needs to keep absolute rule through control of information.

Alfred's just another low tier church guy, brought up in the culture and religion, he doesn't know any better. And he's a nice guy.
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>>197867696
Here's my version. Bell Maidens don't like me at all.
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>>197867872
What the hell is the point of getting laid if you're doing it under false pretenses? Without any kind of deeper connection, it's just physical exertion. Meat and mucus. And awkwardness after the climax; nothing to talk about, no common ground.

>>197867529
'Selling points'.

Not by most people's standards.
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>>197867696
I don't have any credit. 12k in the bank, no debt, no education. I don't exist by most standards.
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>>197868728
dont fall for the normie meme
self loathing and loneliness is the human condition
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Which boss were you stuck on the longest?
For me it’s pthumerian descendant, I must have died like 40 times if not more. It feels as if I mess up just once he’ll catch me in a combo and my only chance of escape is the sweet release that only death can bring
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>>197869193
Ludwig's first phase, I probably died 50 or so times and got him the second time I reached his Holy Blade phase.
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>>197865632
>Why does everyone like them so much?
Have you ever read the description of the Church Garbs? The Black Church Garb lets out that they have the power of the inquisition to purge suspected victims of the beast scourge i.e accuse people without iolness of being beasts. The guy in Cathedral Ward doesn't sound sincere at all when he praises the chuch and Central Yharnamites openly despise the church. They even chant "Death to the Minister!" at you if you wear church garb.
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>Crow never stops dodging and shooting
>kills me in three fucking shots
How much fucking bloodtinge does this Cuckhurst cunt have
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>>197869650
50
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>>197790691
what BL should I stop at to do co op spelunking?
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>>197869650
Hacked 100blt and a handfull of penis enlargement pills
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>>197869893
98-120, you can co-op with 98s up to 137 without passwords
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>>197869893
anywhere between 98 to 120 ish if you just wanna co-op
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>>197869893
Anywhere between 80-120
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>>197869650
He almost always quicksteps before he shoots, I got into the habit of preemptively sidestepping when he did, just make sure you don’t sidestep into him
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>>197868898
Dude.
Just rent something out like a guitar and pay it off in payments to build up credit
Or buy some things with a credit card then pay it off a day later
How I started building once I turned 18 in Burgerland
Also with that much saved you can definitely invest at least $1.5k in things like mutual funds, stock mutual funds, etc and put the rest into a money market account
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>>197869193
Ebrietas
I thought I'd gotten gud when I killed her in a couple of tries on my current character, but then I tried Isz for the first time and it turns out I was just overlevelled.
Fucking mobile bed of chaos
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>>197869475
Same man, I pretty much wrecked the second phase instantly but almost gave up during the first half
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>>197871028
I actually quit, took a nap and when I came back it was a lot better.
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>>197870882
I finally beat this cunt after ~2hrs of failure, so satisfying
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So I'm planning to do a BL 117 with 99 ARC. The question is do I go for 32 VIT or 30 VIT where I can use Toni and Beast Cutter? I really like Beast Cutter but I feel thay with VIT that low, every little bit helps.
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>>197872152
>Using the element Ebrietas has the most defense to
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>>197872332
woops
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>>197872152
>using arc against kin
You beastly idiot
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>>197872302
If you want to have VIT then don't make a 99 ARC meme
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>>197872514
I just tend to stick the shell on automatically, temp buffs don't change other scaling do they?
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I'm an insightlet please dcexplain the mensis ritual to me. Preferably with skewed comparisons and memes
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>>197872302
I would go with 40 VIT and 90 ARC
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>>197873198
No, just adds +80 Flat damage on top
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>>197873219
>be mensis
>healing church higher ups
>choir are faggots
>we're gonna contact a great one n shieet
>fry our brains to shit talking to a literal child
>find a giant monster brain in the nightmare and use it as a guard dog in our spooky palace
>concoct an absolutely bizarre fucking plan involving a sectioned off, hidden part of the city used as dumping ground for hostages to melt down into a corpseman?
>it's hard reconciling all this
>mensis has a lot of projects on the go I guess
>micolash is like last guy left
>he's beckoning the moon so we can finally ascend
>using the literal child as bait
>still not sure what the whole yahar'gul deal was for
>come up with sick memes in the mirror when you clock out of your evil cultist factory job in space
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>>197873478
Fuck it I'll just do 32. It's not like I'll even use anything but brocolli or saw.
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anybody up for a cursed and defiled?
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>Kill Laurence and Ludwig no problem
>Get stuck on Lady Maria
Why am I such a shitter? I was even using the Whirly.
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>>197874068
gimme a moment to fire up the old bloodborne machine
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>>197873219
After the Moon made the Dream the Church wanted their own Great One so Mensis tried to do just that and ended up in the Nightmare with their brains fried by Mergo, baby of Queen Yharnam and Oedon. The madmen who survived in the waking world tried to beckon them back but ended up with the One Abortion.
My headcanon is that the first Mensis ritual brought the Red Moon that caused the burning of Old Yharnam, that would explain why it seems that it happened not too long ago; and the second ritual used the help of Pthu in loos wanting to free Mergo from the Nightmare, explaining the Bell Maidens and sackman.
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>>197874404
alright, that'll be bbg357 at cnz2uhf4 when you're ready
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>>197875165
Ringing
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>tfw egg will never give us his sliders
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>>197875737
>his
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I want to suck off all the vilecucks
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>>197875884
Her*
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>>197875165
one for one more if anybody is interested
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>>197875165
>>197876061

Are you full, did you forget the password? I've been ringing for a good while now
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>>197876129
have one confederate, we're waiting by the lamp.
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>>197843080
>comparing based qt Emerald Herald to that literal who ds3 firekeeper
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>>197875737
Has anyone ever posted their sliders?
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>>197876492
If they had included the cut content Aged Feather quest she would have been a much better character, but as it stands she's just a Bear Seek Seek Lest soulless machine.
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Do I get anything for being the Three Amigos in the Unseen village?

I skipped past them.
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fucking phase 2 pthumerian descendant man, fuck sake
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>>197877902
Just some minor items nothing that worth it.
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>when queen killer made yarharhar bug out
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>>197874917
Nah, Old Yharnam shit was due to Laurence, Gehrman and Willem beckoning the Moon to come down amd it was Moon Presence that replied and consumed Gehrman.
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Cybil, you dead famygdala?
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>>197882792
I've been ringing for ages.
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>>197882892
We're at the lamp.
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>>197873802
Noice
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>>197882939
Looks like Miyazaki doesn't wanna connect the tubes today
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Looks like this is not working anymore. Sorry Teague, I'm gonna head off to bed.
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Which old one got the yharnam queen pregnant with Mergo?
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>>197884020
So I guess everyone is having trouble connecting then?
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>>197884020
gotcha, thanks for coming. that invader ended up killing me, using the chikage.
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>>197884336
Thanks for hosting Teague, I'll be up for a few more hours, so maybe I can join another spelunk if Miyazaki decides to unfuck the connections.
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>>197884554
I'll reset my shit and try again
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>>197884312
I always assumed Oedon, since he's the most closely associated with blood and also the only Great One given an explicitly male pronoun.
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Lets do something fun guys, i can host any chalice for an spelunko, or we can have some scraples in isz
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>>197884779
Alrighty
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>tfw you and 2 other people are fighting the beast daddy and everyone keeps interrupting each other's visceral attacks
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>>197885256
Too late for spelunking for me but I will partake in some isz smut.
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>>197885479
ringing now
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>no death run
>decide to poke around in chalices
>get trashed by canon giants in poison swamp
>get mad at video games
>decide to truck on anyway
>anger contributes to shitty gameplay
>get dunked on by Pthumerian Elder

I hate this feeling so much.
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>>197885759
Alright, lets have an impromtu in isz, then
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>>197885993
Impromtu is still happening
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fokkin new thread lads

>>197886779
>>197886779
>>197886779
>>197886779
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>just died 7 times in a row to watchers while farming for triangle gems
:)
also, is my wearing eye runes helping my get high tier gems at all?
>>
Thats what you get for being a memer




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