The White were right edition>Shin Megami Tensei Vhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ut9ekAp2drsReveal Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvyCAFV9MbM>Strange Journey Reduxhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJ-5x5IaYFAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvLc8kXrz1ghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09Ty1p9tQEQ>Dx2 Shin Megami Tensei: Liberation announced for smartphones:https://gematsu.com/2017/09/dx2-shin-megami-tensei-liberation-teaser-trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAiRowFQLY0>Chaos concerthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDfjry8-t24>Shin Megami Tensei: Synchronicity Prologue side-scroller for PC released as free downloadhttp://gematsu.com/2017/10/shin-megami-tensei-synchronicity-prologue-side-scroller-pc-released-free-download>English translationhttps://www.dropbox.com/s/xq0ear1r0cvq40h/Synchronicity%20Prologue%20English%20V1.zip?dl=0>Strange Journey Redux Files including cutscenes, portraits, sprites and soundtrack:https://mega.nz/#F!l0lwXbrD!k4nTlSzKp86s8qrwt1Wf1A>Shin Megami Tensei IV/IVA portraits, sprites and textures:https://mega.nz/#F!UltjlITb!PnGEcWYkxv_n8u0vJQvhFg>Memorial Arrange Tracks album, fully named and tagged:https://mega.nz/#!Qt0V2aYY!AGD6ECNHOkNcGNSKjEhoT0KLvYEWhW2F_0508GNB36o>Starter guidehttps://i.imgur.com/PRKpcPh.png>Tips and trickshttps://pastebin.com/1V9AUMNb>Fangames, artbooks, soundtracks, manga, and other downloadshttps://pastebin.com/vYS23798>OST linkshttps://pastebin.com/KWGRFqD1>Misc translationshttps://pastebin.com/3LEcEUja>Script dumpshttps://pastebin.com/e4cC77Wk>Booruhttp://smtg.booru.org/>Recommended readinghttp://pastebin.com/ByiXrDGXPrevious thread: >>197654567
We rise from the grave again!
>The white were right>Creates a new cycle anyway
you know you can always come to /pg/ right?
>>197801456Good, they can enjoy our salvation as well.
smtg is dead
Whoa..Threads can be archived in vg?I wasn't aware of it.
>premature death>took 2.5 hours for a new threadIs this the end for /smtg/?
/pg/ > /smtg/
>>197803051We're always on the edge of the end.
pack it up boyswe're merging with /pg/ to start a new /megaten/ general
Thank YHVH; I hope my mind didn't take too much damage during my short stay in /pg/.
>>197803681>Implying it wouldn't retain the name /pg/Thanks to the power of observation, SMT is now the spinoff.
>>197804025Any problems fucker?
/smtg/ is dead. All according to plan.
>>197805487WORLD OF STILLNESS, BOYUSHERE WE GO
>>197799070I blame OP of the previous thread
>>197806728HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
>>197807863Are Tatsuya and Naoya manly men, or peegee bitch boys?
you think we will have a rival COMP user a la pokeman in SMT 5?
>smtg is dead>pg is endless waifu circlejerkingthere's just no winning is there?
>>197810252like a rival battle in pokemon
>>197810260This was our fate
YOU NEED CLEANSING, SONS OF MAN
>>197810408Oh, do you mean a rival demon summoner?We already had that. Even in smt 1 we had some comp users we fight against
>>197810591can they be rematch-able?
>>197810483This pic makes me sad.
>>197810483will SMTV being in HD finally change this perception or will it be a repeat?
>>197810808>will it be a repeat?God! I hope not
>>197810729No. But why they would be? It's not like you would let them live after the battle.
>>197810953>God!don't use the LORD's name in vain
>>197810808I don't know what to expect from the game.There's this spot they can hit between classic smt and new trends.But let's be real, game journalism is shit, there's no good game that will change their shitty perception about gaming in general.
>>197813578>Doomguy>Normal tierYou fucked up there
>>197813618this was made pre-DSJ
>>197813618>>197813642even with what happened in DSJit's not like it'll make any difference ;)
How can my sun goddess be this CUTE
>>197811260I don't think they actually play games. if they do, they certainly do not clear them.
speaking of IMAGINEthis sounds AWFULLY identical to Mizutsune theme from MonHun
>>197809089In DS1 Keisuke and Kaido somewhat fill that role. Their battle theme was even called "rival battle" in some YouTube channel. Also Honda.
>>197814305>not posting husbando version>>197814574forgot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWhpbbd_4H8
why can't we have nice thingshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxJkWYzt2fE
off to work now I seeI'm talking to you dead thread anon
>>197814650Aside from the fact that both Masakado's theme and Mizutsune's theme are very japanese, I'm not hearing it.
>>197816137should've worded that differently
>>197816325but not this >>197815034
>>197816580>he didn't play the best SMT novel ever made
Do I get bonus dmg using fire spells with Phoenix?
>>197817027Only in Apocalypse
Raidou Ga Gotoku: Ishin!
2017's almost overshouldn't they release Dx2 already?
>>197819338>2017's almost overThank fuck for that, maybe I can finally just curl up and die.
>>197819450Mamudoon on you
>>197819946dafuq is that
>>197820110Dx2 liberation FGO collab.
>>197820167>wanting a collab with a creatively dead franchise>not even FGO's original garbage characters, but the ones borrowed from Extra CCCI know Dx2 is already looking kinda shitty from the character designs and being a mobage, but you don't need to be THAT pessimistic
Dx2 will release worldwide right?fatlus what are you doing??
>>197820406>100 magnetite $1 >1000 magnetite $10>10000 magnetite $100
>>197820592How can we even compete?
>>197807863should be changed to Door-kun trying to shoot himself
i need pictures of jack frosts and other jacks and frostspls help i have none
>>197826631Maybe if you give me the life of Decarabia...
>>197828542>sheIt's dragfrost, sweetie.
>>197808178manly as hell.peegee doesnt even play video games, they just shill waifus
What about pascal?
>>197829125>Gets fused into a demon>Brainwashed and forced to guard Disney Land>Breaks free when his old master finds him>Master dies in a cave >New master dies in the stomach of a demonPascal lived a hard life.
>>197826631Does anyone have the one that says "Never give up, hee ho"?
>>197829590I apprec-hee-ate it, ho!
>>197810749What's the pink one called?
>>197833609Why does it look like he's vomiting
>>197824109>2009.>Tfw you've been a megaten fan for nine and a half years. Soon it'll be a decade.>Tfw so many children hanging around who act like they found the series a long time ago when they mean like three years.>Tfw you played megaten games since before you masturbated.
>>197817027No, but in SJ you only get the native skills of demons + a couple from a forma/fusion
>>197799070I compiled the translations into a paste for maximum autism. Add this to the Misc translations paste?https://pastebin.com/d9vY7app
>>197836682Thank you very much
>>197836682>Angels however are Light Law only in SMT I, since SMT II the Light-Dark side became Neutral.Is this trying to really badly explain they deity race moving to neutral?
>>197813578>removing the fag in normalfag tier>>>/r/eddit
>>197813578Missing the Megami Tensei tier. Also somebody needs to add a Godslayer tier for Nanashi.
>>197836682I'm a lawfag, but even I think this is too biased towards law. It more or less outright implies that "light" is good. Except without using the word good. And it calls neutral/neutral selfish.
It hurts that SMT is't all that populer in the west. But how is it in Japan? I keep on hearing its in the Top 3 but I find that hard to believe.
>>197838746More popular. Top 3 barely means much. What the hell else do you think would be a more popular series than it? Its so big that by default it will take this role due to just how much of it there is. Do you really think it would get animes and so many new games, including spinoffs if it wasn't popular?
>>197838953Its just, I see DQ, FF, FE, and Pokemon being more popular in the west so I assumed so.
>>197837158It's just hastily/poorly translated. It's just saying Angels were Light Law in SMT1, but from SMT2 onwards they became Neutral Law. >>197838084It doesn't imply it, it outright says light is what people would normally consider "good." And that has nothing to do with law.>And it calls neutral/neutral selfish.If selfish is too negatively connotated for your liking, think of it as self-centered instead. All it's saying is that they decide what's "good" to them and do it, they don't adhere to specific principles or beliefs.
>>197839341I should clarify, "Angels" is referring specifically to the "Divine" race. Forgot they translated it like that.
>>197839341>And that has nothing to do with law.Yes it does. Because the "sides" in the games aren't just law neutral and chaos. The law side is light/law. The neutral side is neutral/neutral. The chaos side is dark/chaos. They even say that this is on purpose in interviews.Dark/law is a totally different thing from law endings, considered a corrupted version. But for chaos, "dark" is the standard accepted version. Likewise dark/neutral is separate from normal neutral and was introduced literally to be villains like jack's squad. Dark for anything but chaos is treated as making it too intolerable to really side with most of the time. Which reflects poorly on chaos as a whole, since for chaos dark is the standard version. Whereas for law, its treated as if its only justification is if it happens to be light. Because light for non-law sides is treated as never consistent. A chaos demon might be light-chaos, but in a chaos world they're just doing their own thing, not something that changes the overall tone.
>>197839290DQ and FE aren't that popular though.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm31660080Why didn't anyone tell me this was a thing?
>>197841353Also why the FUCK isn't there any embedding
>>197841353Because no one gives a shit about someone putting a demi fiend skin on whatever shit they are playing.
When are we getting Raidou 3
>>197842936If we do, I hope its set during the time of SMTII. That would be badass. Throw in some jadedness by having you be the one -after- the one who goes back in raidou I. Imply he failed. And that past raidou failed at fixing the timeline.
Does anyone actually like the new angel designs in IV? I don't, I mean I do prefer Law keeping the mechanical robot aesthetic but not that much. More Metatron, less Gabriel.
>>197844764I like them as designs, but they don't really fit in game. They look like surrealist art pieces, not something that an angel would actually manifest as.
>>197844764They look like literal robotic rejects that you'd find in the recycle bin.
>>197840010DQ is gaining traction in the west, its definitely more popular than megaten, even moreso in japan.FE is one of nintendo's biggest franchises now.. it isnt some obscure series anymore.
>>197846503They look like half-assed FF bosses.
>>197839961I think that's why they made nocturne be a chaos focused game. Remember, the grid was done before smt3.
>>197846503Your daily reminder that uriel has pierced balls.
>>197846832That makes it even worse.
>>197846503What's more they don't match the theme well. Law is robots because muh efficiency, and pragmatic design designed to necessitate the best ends or whatever? But what looks efficient about that clusterfuck? It looks more like syberpunk or chaos, like its cobbled together out of garbage.
>>197846503uriel is the only one that is really shit. i actually kind of like raphael (but not for such a major character), i think michael is a little bad but not totally garbage, and i feel the same way towards gabriel. just give me back the human angels and to fit with the redesigns give them some flair/personality such as paladin armor for michael or heavenly robes for gabriel.
/pg/ hereI came here to laugh at your pathetic general one last timeplease stay alive. /pg/ right now is just cancer with autismposting, shitposting, and yandereposting
>>197847870> /pg/ right now is just cancer with autismposting, shitposting, and yanderepostingThis is the same, but with less yandere.
>>197848019how are we shitposting
>>197847870You know you can come here to discuss Persona, right?We're open to story, lore, and gameplay discussion, just don't devolve into waifu shit.
Persona 3: Undub or Dub?
>>197848189>Says this while posting Doi's semen demonYou are not setting a good example, son of man.
>>197848283Dub because I raised you not to be a weaboo
>>197848359Anahita is an alright design.You'd only be justified in complaining about pic related.
>>197848524After knowing about her role in the plot, i think i like this design. It's like a throwback to cute loli trying to kill you. And look how cute she is with alice.
>>197848283Undub because Fuuka sounds like a robot.And the protagonist is voiced by Yosuke.
>>197848283Dub because of Ace Defective.
I don't get it. How is Demiurge and YHWH different?
>>197846671Why is't SMT more popular? Lack of advertisement? Persona has the waifu market so its obvious they will be bigger then non persona. FE:A got big due to waifus as well funnily enough. Does SMT need to add waifus to become cool?
>>197850095In what game? They are different ideas, but in some games different ideas can be the same demon. In SJ, demiurge is depicted like a demonization of yhvh. Since that's literally what it is in gnosticism. However, in p5 its just a separate being, albeit one that is law leaning. Whether they are the same or separate is specific to the game. In devil summoner demiurge is chaos even.
>>197850185Could be because they didn't expand into the overseas market until relatively late (mid-90s). And even then, a bunch of Atlus games stayed in Japan like Debisama.
>>197850185I got a good feeling SMTV on a home console will be the one to make atleast mainline, bigger.
>>197850715Yeah. And this is due the content of the games (religious figures etc). West couldn't take it.
Is anahita a law mother? Who are the new law mothers?
>>197851194>>197851194>inb4 switch isn't a home console
>>197850185It is only natural that SMT isn't more popular. In any fanbase, the plebeian masses outnumber the patrician elite.
>>197852596Which is why neutral is the most popular ending. Fukken common stock.
>no mother form>no boss fight or fusion>no pornDemeter was a mistake.>>197850185>most of the interesting releases never came over to the western market, mainline or spinoff>no nostalgia boost like a lot of those 90's RPGs >religous content made it a pain to deal with so good games enver came out>persona was translated in the first place so it had a head start in the west with two games for the 5th gen retrofags>No meme comics or mid to late 2000's internet boost>most people may know persona first BEFORE waifu sim elements so three and 4 would hit off better with people than say DDS FE:A did have prior releases plus being on 3DS with that huge installbase and some RPG support, similar to how SMTIV helped mainline in that aspect too.Several easy factors, in the end TLDR: came too late.
>>197853513>Light Law: Virtuous beings that value order. Gods themselves or corresponding beings fall in this category. The Shinrei from SMT II are symbolic for this category. Daitenshi (Heralds) Reicho (Avian) are always of this nature, Angels however are Light Law only in SMT I, since SMT II the Light-Dark side became Neutral. Also godly beings such as Majin (Deity) and Megami are classified as Light-Law in SMT I and Debisama.
>>197852596>>197853158Which is why chaos is the least popular endings.
>>197853827>world of strength>make it into world of waifusI see no issue with this
>>197853827But law is the least popular ending. Association wise, law is slightly less than chaos, and quite a few on neutral say that if they had to pick they'd prefer chaos to law.
>Dark-Chaos: Beings that are not only vile but also have the goal of creating a chaotic state of destruction and massacre. The personifications of Evil, Maou (Tyrant) and Jaryuu (Drake) are high-positioned beings in this category. There are also demons in this category that don't have a lot of power but still like vileness and chaos, low-ranked beings such as Yuuki (Haunt) and Akuryou (Spirit), Gedou (Foul). Additionally Virus from SMT II also belong to this category.Chaosfags BTFO. Joining Lucifer would make you a very naughty boy.
>>197853975>implying that lucifer wouldn't kill you for daring to have an orgy.
>>197854128Guess I'm a naughty boy, then.
>>197854183Just kill lucifer?I ain't no wuss like Crowley
Neutralfags get shown the door
>>197850421Which does not make much sense since the demiurge is literally supposed to be YHVH. Heck, they could in theory use the "greater God" of gnosis to be the neutral icon in smt1 and smt2, while having yhvh and lucifer the law and chaos icons respectively.
>>197854615Thanks for the update reddit
>>197854883that pic is like 4 years old
>>197854741Which part are you saying doesn't make sense? It makes sense just fine for demiurge to sometimes show up as a distinct being because the demiurge wasn't invented by gnosticism. It was invented by plato, and not meant to be yhvh. Gnosticism inverted plato's idea, depicting it as bad instead of good, and merged it with yhvh.
>>197854990>>197854741Also, to add to this, even seperate interpretations of the same being are sometimes distinct demons. II literally has satan and lucifer face off despite being two interpretations of one thing.
>>197854883Anon, that pic doesn't come from reddit. It came from here. Apparently before your time. In fact, back when that pic was made, /r/megaten was "serious" business and flipped its shit if anyone posted a meme there. This was considered meme shitposting central back then.
>>197854615So...Heroic LawRevolutionary ChaosAnd Friendzoned Neutral?
>>197855881And Elliot Rodger White*
>>197855279Yeah. Its weird how this place is swarming with newfags, who are trying to vaguely guess how this place works without any real knowledge.
>>197848283Dub because of Karen Strassman
>>197856449>Karen Strassmanshit taste
>>197855924>you've clearly been here under 2 years.>calling other people new.Goddamn, go back to gamefaqs.
>>197855279>that pic doesn't come from reddit>honestly thinking there are any girls on /smtg/haahahahaahahhahahahhahahahahaha>back then, /r/megaten was serious businessholy fucking hell what the shit am I reading. I think you need to go back.
>>197856624No need to be upset, r/megaten shitter.
>>197856714>tripfiend>telling anyone else to go
>>197856714I know you have debilitating autism, but the word serious was in quotes to specify sarcasm. If you don't know how to understand that, then you should refrain from acting like you understand things that are being said when you clearly struggle to. It thought it was serious business since it was only game info and discussion, and people got mad if there was any jokes or memes there.>honestly thinking there are any girls on /smtg/I don't know what to tell you. That pic came from here. You're a newfag trying to guess where it came from, and it shows.
>>197820406Shin Megami Tensei V should have lots of guest artists for new demon designs and have all them be from Fate GO.
>>197856984Please go away, redditor, I thought we killed your ilk
>Frag and his spanish friends shitposting on /pg/F U C K O F F
>>197856714>haahahaha>ahahhahahahhahahahahahaGo back to redddit, please.
>>197827640Higher resolution version
>>197854615you should have never posted this
>>197857390SHUT UP LOLO
>>197856714Pepe le feu, can you please nickname your team? thanks
>>197857296>every shitposter is frag.Anon, every poster in general is frag. The shitty "smtg" discord and his discord literally have 80% overlap of users. The only reason they are even still seperate is the autists there who don't want to admit they are the same.
>>197856941>anonymoose thinking he can tell others shitheh>>197856984>i know you have debilitating autismsup, toxicdevil. or is it simplydad? i can't keep with all you fancy redditors and your projections>to specify sarcasm>i was only pretending to be retarded!!!!>people got mad if there were any jokes or memes thereMan, you're a newfag. /r/megaten has almost always been a center for persona memes and only get 'serious' whenever turbo autists want to talk alignments and shit after a mainline gets released. and even then that period only lasts like a week or two. you are such a dumbass newfag it's not even funny. >that pic came from hereOh, sure, the pic itself was first posted here, but don't kid yourself. Most of that data is from reddit, despite what's actually said.
>>197856714> !!17JZocglBRO Keep in mind that we can filter this.
>>197857368Why jack frost is so good?How they did a perfect mascot to the series?
>>197857571>literally speaking monkey language>not fragsuuure
>>197857667Holy hell, fuck off back to redddit with your autism. No one here gives a shit.
God I fucking hate redditors so much
>>197857667>sup, toxicdevil. or is it simplydad?>Guys. I don't go to rmegaten, but apparently also claim to know who would be redditors if anyone was.
for a lawful general, this place sure is chaotic right now
>>197857696I mean, look at his face. Is so devilish cute.
>>197854183Something something resolution.
>>197858085in the land of chaos where the law is neutral
>>197857912I mean, you clearly gave enough a shit to reply, redditor. You need to go back.>>197858064I only know of beadman, JarinJove, toxicdevil, simplydad, and capcuck, because all five of them have shitted up this general in one way or another. They are the main reason why all redditors (including yourself, desu) should leave
>>197858380>because all five of them have shitted up this general in one way or another. The fuck are you talking about? There's no evidence that most of those people have ever even been here.
>discordfags ITT>random names>muh redditWell it's been a fun ride.
>>197858380You're the one who seems to be intimately associated with redditing. Your claims that other people are the redditors based on you being able to describe what happens on reddit is exactly what's making it obvious you are one.
>>197858678/pg/ will save us
>>197858528heh>>197858678we must secure a future for our white children
>>197858719Does /pg/ have a discord?
>>197858380Anon, beadman was here long before he was on reddit. Associating him during the time period he was active here with a site he wasn't even on at the time makes no sense. And the rest of those people are a list of people from reddit that you don't like, not people who actually post here.
lookin' good, /smtg/
>>197859076I personally prefer Fiends And How to Destroy Them
>>197853504>>no pornShe has two images on Paheal, it's better than nothing, i guess.https://rule34.paheal.net/post/view/2396617https://rule34.paheal.net/post/view/2396618
>>197858678I mean, all of this has been happening for a few years at least.
>>197858528Either a newfriend or one of those five.>h-haha there's no way beadman or simplydad comes on here, i mean i usually stay on reddit, beadman never comes here!>>197858708I'm intimately associated with telling you redditors to fuck off.>describe what happens on redditThat's because redditors like you come on here and bitch and scream and cry about /r/megaten like the soyboy cucks you all are and thus we true /smtg/chads are forced to listen to how your shitty site operates.All you're doing is digging yourself a deeper hole.
Well, at least we are not at risk of dying again at the moment. We will return to our comfy lawful self soon enough.
>>197858832Yes but not as cancerous as the /smtg/ one since there's no phi,dvv or frag.
>>197859251>phi,dvv or fragwho
>>197858951Beadman is now a full blown redditor, though, and that's what we're talking about. Try and keep up.>Associating him during the time period he was active here with a site he wasn't even on at the time makes no sense....what?>list of people from reddit that you don't likeOkay, maybe JarinJove doesn't come on here, but simplydad and toxicdevil definitely do. and capcuck is another '/smtg/ browser turned redditor'.
>>197859159Seriously, go the fuck back to redddit. We're sick of you shitting up the board every five minutes by sperging about a problem that you're the one causing.
We need to purge-he the name calling on the general, ho!
>>197859424>Beadman is now a full blown redditor, though, and that's what we're talking about. Its literally not. We're talking about a post from four years ago.>simplydad and toxicdevil definitely do.Do you have any evidence beyond them being the reddit posters you like the least?>capcuck is another '/smtg/ browser turned redditor'.Yeah. He reflects on smtg, not reddit. His posting style is all over this place.Nice samefagging, by the way. We almost didn't notice.
>>197858321Literally the only thing I like about this design is the head, everything else is awful.
>>197859159>Either a newfriend or one of those five.How does that even make sense? Why would you have to be one of those people to not say they come here. I've never seen most of then even mention it.>>197859895You don't like the 12 pack?
>/smtg/ will never be as quiet or as fun as it was pre-Persona 5
>>197859159So all the worst redditors are the ones who also browse smtg, but its reddit's fault? Is your post part of some weird attempt to discredit smtg?
>>197860094DSJ run up was fine
>>197859665Literally the only people causing problems here are redditors. Which I guess makes up 80% of this general anyway>>197859813>its literally notDude, that guy said it was suspicious I knew so many redditors, and I told him I knew only five. Beadman's one of the five. He's also completely unrelated to the discussion at hand about the poll. As I said, keep up. >do you have any evidenceI don't need evidence. >hurr durr burden of proofI know that's what you're going to say, and I don't care. according to american law hillary clinton is innocent despite there being a wealth of evidence otherwise. evidence means jack shit.>he reflects on smtgYes, and then he flaunts his redditor status over here like it's a prize or something. he's the most obnoxious poster here after beadman's essayposting.>nice samefaggingWhat?>We almostWho the fuck is we
>>197860148Also, in case these spergs aren't realizing it, there was no actual brigade. All this autism started over one person posting a random image, and then people pointlessly trying to argue where it was from. The only way that could be a "brigade" is if these autists are legitimately identifying themselves as people who can't help but throw a sperg, and that this is so obvious that brigading is actually that simple.
What is your favorite race that corresponds with your alignment?
>>197860247now we wait for SJR
>>197859954because the minute you deny shit that's so obvious it makes you look suspicious. christ, i'm dealing with underages here >>197860148what the fuck are you talking about? i'm saying that the worst posters on /smtg/ are the ones who also browse reddit, and they should stay on reddit instead of spreading their garbage. are you mentally challenged?
>>197860332>I don't need evidence.> according to american law hillary clinton is innocent despite there being a wealth of evidence otherwise. evidence means jack shit.Wow. I legitimately thought you were just an overzealous person defending the board before now, but you are either a brigade, or legitimately retarded. Get the fuck out of here.
me reading all this
>according to american law hillary clinton is innocent despite there being a wealth of evidence otherwise. evidence means jack shit.Phi-chan plz
>>197850185Atlus doesn't know how to market mainline to new people. Westerners aren't interested in religion because they think they've out grown it and replaced with humanism. Individually, Law hates fags and want to cleanse them in flames while Chaos hate fags because they're too weak to fight for their ideals. If it wasn't for Lucifer, tumblrinas would be eaten by Beelzebub, or bullied by Adramelech until they commit suicide.
>>197860535Tyrant I'd say
>>197859895I like Walter
>>197859251>phi>frag>dvvare you just autistic about admins?
>>197863001Phi and Frag aren't even admins on Dvv's server.
>>197863135Frag has his own server that has like 70% member overlap with dvvs server.
>>197863135they have their own servers thoughphi was a mod before dvv blew a gasketthere's another smtg where people who got banned from dvv's servers are allowed and dvv can't censor people there, so naturally it's dead
>tfw wasn't around to save the last threadForgive me, /smtg/
>>197863249>phi was a mod before dvv blew a gasket>there's another smtg where people who got banned from dvv's servers are allowed and dvv can't censor people there, so naturally it's deadt. phi
>>197861157Wasn't me dude, I put way more effort into shitposts. Honestly looks like jarinjove or s** due to the "I don't need evidence" part.
>>197863001They are easily the worst retards though? Dvv is literally the reason the server broke into 3, Phi cannot talk about anything without getting side tracked into muh jews and conspiracy and Frag is well Frag.
>>197864039Jarinjove is retarded but he's not this particular type of retarded. It doesn't come off like him.
>>197864097What's wrong with frag? He never seemed to me to be someone worth disliking as much as you apparently seem to.
>>197864246Fair enough. I haven't even been in an smtg for ages, I stopped visiting when regular mentions of r/megaten became a thing.>>197864097>implying jews and law aren't scum of the earthI'd take it any day over nu-tral though desu.
When exactly did we lose control of this situation? Has smtg always been this bad?
>>197864616Jews did this
>>197864616It was literally not even a problem until people brought up reddit and discord. Now there's all this stupid drama and shitflinging.>>197864752Literal falseflagging
>>197864478Tell /smtg/ the story of how you healed your phimosis masturbating and made a jewish doctor cry phi grandpa.
>>197864804literally fucking who, I don't deal with redditor celebs>>197864863>Literal falseflaggingOkay, y'got me.
>>197864478>tfw a jew AND a neutralfagGet fucked faggot. Lawfags and chaosfags are the minority and the scum of the community.
>>197864863Saying that there wasn't a problem, but then one came out of nowhere is there being a problem though. There was no brigade. People just started arguing about a random image, and apparently are so deep on the spectrum that disagreement =/= a brigade.
>>197864097> Dvv is literally the reason the server broke into 3,Maybe Phi's dead server but Frag's was created because someone else deleted theirs
>>197865157>Lawfags and chaosfags are the minority and the scum of the community.Anon, neutral has literally always. ALWAYS been refuse. Neutralfags encourage happy go lucky nonsense like iva.
>>197865043Masturbation is an affront to man and god. Don't do things like this.>>197865171I understand this and agree. I'm just saying it was mentioned and everyone sperged out. I'm literally only posting here right now because I heard about a supposed raid.
You have to stay
>>197865384IV:A is propaganda made to make neutral look like "muh humanity".Actual neutral is games like SMTI and SJ where it is simoly realizing both law and chaos are too extreme and followers of must be purged. Maybe one day you can see the truth anon and realize neutral is the only not retarded choice.
>>197865832That's true in smtI maybe. Its absolutely muh humanity in sj.
>This is the true face of nulltrals and chaosfagsI see so law was right all along...
>>197865832I remember when I was a neutralfag.
>>197865941Maybe a bit but nowhere near as bad as IV or especially IV:A. SJ is still about eradicating the Scharzwelt and allowing humanity to continue while dealing with neither extreme. DSJ just kind of fucks that up but honestly it effectively is another universe rather then a rewrite it seems.>>197865993I'm sorry, try not to choke on YHVH's cock lawfag.
>>197865993>going law just so you don't fight Satan
>>197865993>>197866131lawfags suck satan tittis
>>197866483But in IV they actually describe law and chaos with terms like goodwill and spite, and emphasize being in between them. And they at least try to have reps. SJ is literally just finishing a mission for the sake of humanity. We get it, you like sj and so don't want to admit how shit its neutral is. But it is.
>>197866483>try not to choke on YHVH's cock lawfag.This is the other problem with neutral trash. They don't actually understand what law or chaos even are, so their insults just come off surreal.
I wish we stayed dead
>>197867403To preach that salvation is death. Vile behavior, even for a demon.
>>197866734IV's is fine and I admit I was being a bit harsh but the way its conveyed is pretty shitty. Unlike prior games that had clear neutral options to alignment affected questions and objectives IV makes you just sort of balance how much you pick the law and chaos option. Even worse is Isabeau who on top of just being a shitty character makes neutral seem like its more of just being indecisive.>SJ is literally just finishing a mission for the sake of humanityWhat's wrong with that exactly? Neutral is you clearing the goal you set out to originally do.
>>197867649Never reply to me again.
>>197867826>What's wrong with that exactly? Neutral is you clearing the goal you set out to originally do.Did you forget the conversation we were having? We were asking where it lies on the scale between an actual ideology versus "muh humanity." It is very much the latter.> Unlike prior games that had clear neutral options to alignment affected questions and objectives IV makes you just sort of balance how much you pick the law and chaos option.There's a reason for that though. Its showing that neutral -is- often seeming to go different ways, rather than there being a neutral option in every case.
>>197867403>weYou're not talking to the /smtg/ you think you are, anon. You're talking to P5 fags that saw the SMT5 teaser and think they know about the franchise now.
>>197813578idk why but that zoomed in artifacted pic of flynn is making me laugh
>>197867919The lord's messengers taketh not orders from filth.
>>197868051Feel free to leave at any time.
>>197868051How deep on the spectrum do you have to legitimately be to actually believe this? I can't even tell if you're shitposting anymore.
>>197868205I'm warning you.
>>197868358>>197868517I wish you stayed dead
>>197813578why is the autistic bunny normal tier?
>>197868517I am autistic and I am shitposting, but I'm also right.
>>197867403God tests the faithful.
>>197868748Where are all these alleged p5fags who haven't played any other games? Can you give an example of a single post that suggests this?
>>197868959you're dead mom you faggotoron
>>197868959Don't you have final exams to study for or something? Fucking pseuds on my /smtg/.
>>197868034I disagree. Instead of accepting eith option you stick with your mission because that's what you believe in. Yes, I'm a SJfag, but I agree its neutral route is flawed, but I don't think its as ham fisted as you're implying.
>>197869767I didn't say anything about being ham fisted. I said that its about muh humanity. The drive of the ending isn't that you want to balance lawful and chaotic type situations. Its that humanity rocks, and there's alien invaders and you need to finish your mission for humanity. It even has arthur kill himself specifically on the off chance that someone might worship him. Which WAS ham fisted in and makes no actual sense other than as a depiction of more humanism. The reason he gives isn't even balance, but ensuring that humanity is free to be humanity, rather than following a divine seeming being.
Are chozo law?- they are birds. For no reason in particular all birds are law.- They combine sci fi shit with gardens. That's a highly lawful aesthetic.- They have a surreal and solemn and peaceful tone.
>>197871019What's Samus' alignment?
>>197871019They'd seem like a more neutral group since they like to avoid all sorts of conflicts and are more about intellectual pursuit and unifying with other species
>>197871465Oh shit I should have clarified that I'm not implying that other alignments aren't about intellectualism and stuff. I dont want to start a flame war
>>197871465I don't see where you are getting neutral out of this. Their actual homeworlds and places they live and their implied lifestyle is law all over. Staying out of conflicts is also law. Pacifism is law leaning. The games just don't show a neutral side most of the time, which makes law and chaos fighting seem to take the forefront.
Sleep, sleep, sleepGo to sleep, /smtg/
>>197873698Never sleep /smtg/
So /smtg/, what demons do you want to see in V?All i want is Doi's Satan and the rest of the Divine Powers.
>>197877973Messiah as a Light-Law superboss in mainline, Merkabah why the fuck wasn't it the ultimate Chariot Persona in P5, more elements of Christian thought in general, really.
>>197877973All I wish for is 3D Mastema
>>197882653Let me sleep, please
>>197883281>he is a man, half human
>>197851403I wish Anahita was my law mother.
>>197883596WAKE THE FUCK UP ONI SAN
>>197883596bruh they're stealing your mastema porn
>>197877973I honestly want to see Inanna rendered in 3D.
>>197885407Somebody should color that.
>>197877973I just want to see the Old One in 3d.
>>197887872I'll finish it someday
>>197877973I want the non-Doi archangels to come back, other than that just keep Lmaocifer out of the game and I'd be fine
>>197888181I want the IV's archangels to comeback. The classic designs just don't really have any appeal since Atlus refuses to give Michael, Uriel, and Raphael personalities. Gabriel has the mommy goddess look going for her, but that's it.
>>197888170Oh dayum it's beautiful
>>197888170Don't worry about it, you're doing YHVH's work.
>>197888181They were already in the first teaser.
>>197889447I've been trying to avoid media about the game so i didn't see, good to know
>>197888170I feel like there's something off about her nipples.
>>197888170This pic is for lawfag eyes only. Chaosfags can go jerk it to asherah.
Who did Vishnu better?
Okay, so I realized something. Nihilo / shijima is somewhat based on the mithraic mysteries. But I'm not sure why. This model was created for nocturne, and obviously everyone knows that this is from the mysteries. But more importantly, the two known figures of the mysteries are mithra and ahriman, but they are both depicted as gods who are on the same side. Since the mysteries were directly referenced in this design that means that making mithra and ahriman on the same side had to be deliberate.So the question is, why the mithraic mysteries? Little about them is known. So there's not much to work with. Unless they extrapolated to just decide to throw that reference in together in reverse based on wanting to use ahriman in general.
>>197893398I genuinely think both are great but the P1 design lacking Vishnu's four arms is pretty shitty. SMTIV:A Vishnu would be perfect for me if only the second pair of arms were actually attached to him, them just floating there looks dumb.
updated it for all the anons there
>>197895169>the hero only in normalfag>Raidou only in extraordinary
>>197893609who the fuck cares dumbasshow all the reasons were handled is shit in general. there's very little screentime dedicated to explaining how each one of them works so even if shijima was pulled from judeo christianity like law tends to be and thus had a lot more shit to 'work with' it wouldn't matter
>>197895909>Wouldn't matterWhat does "matter" mean? Why does anything matter? I think its interesting.
>>197895169what is this fucking refuse
>>197896062>why does anything matternietzsche pls gobut no when I said it didn't matter I meant that since each rep talks about their reason for a grand total of about 10 minutes (and maybe a little more in the ending) each one is meant to be a vague analogue to L/N/C. asking why the mithraic mysteries of all things is moot. they probably found out about it, thought, "hmph, we can spin this to look more like traditional law", and then stuck mithra and ahriman as shijima-oriented demons. maybe add in something about how the devs in nocturne wanted to subvert people's expectations and have angels going for the traditional chaos route and have demons/fallen support the traditional law route.
>>197895169Haven't played DDS and can't comment on it, but why is Flynn in "karma is a bitch" tier? And why is Doomguy so strong? He's just a (albeit well-trained marine) normie in a cool suit.
>>197896536So your point is that the reason is probably a bad reason. I'm not denying that. But I still think it would be interesting to know.
DDS Seraph > Nanashi
did nothing wrong
DDS would be better sans-Seraph.
>>197897227This general would be better sans-(You)
>>197896542because flynn was kinda forced to reincarnate forever for his act of fusing with masakado, doomguy transcends humanity in neutral+ in dsj and watches over the earth to prevent future schwarzwelts alongside arthur in the moon
Why does /pg/ have so many more girls than us?
>>197897703because nu persona boys are more shippeable
>>197895169>not normalfagGET OUT REEEEEEE
>>197896902To be fair, all of the DDS cast is better than Nanashit
>>197897703because you don't have to think to play Persona
>>197897703Quality is better then quantity
Your favorite protag is shit
>>197897703Because there is a lot of legitimate no-buzzword autism on this board.
Was SJ kino?
>>197898384Yes. Every mainline other then IV:A and NINE are.
>>197897227I'd wager that DDS would've been far had we actually gotten the original script. Not that what we got in the end was bad, but...
>>197898869To be fair it really wasn't anyone's fault. The original author got terribly sick during development and they had to do the best with what they had. It's unfortunate but no one's fault.
>>197899050Which is why I'm glad that we are eventually getting the original scrip in book form.
>>197899165I think both books came out already if I'm not mistaken.
>>197899219The second book did indeed come out recently. Mine was delivered 2 days ago. Now I just gotta wait for volume 3...
>>197899219There's five books. Only two are in english.
>>197897703but that's a good thing look at /pg/ and /drg/ for example, boards with a lot of girls are shit.
>>197899050Couldn't they at least have communicated the general story layout?
>>197899353>>197899385Sorry, I thought there were two books total and that the complete story was out.
>>197897703Because being a girl in the mainstream MegaTen community feels kinda lonely sometimes.
>>197866510hey he's actually kind of hard
>>197899860We've been waiting for the translations on the books for quite some time now.I'd kill for vol. 3.
Isn't she beautiful?Is there a point where you have to go hunt down the menorahs, as in off-the-beaten-path? So far I've just encountered them as I've gone to where the story dictates, but I feel like it's been quite a while since I fought White Rider.
>>197903393The other riders are in some of the earlier areas, so you'll need to do some backtracking
Good morning, smtg!
>>197907891How late were you up last night, anon? It's almost the end of the day.
>>197909438>>197909407>what are time zones
>>197910298Your timezone's not my timezone so it doesn't count.
>>197910382Nonetheless, I'm satisfied!Now give me a Chakra Drop x5
>>197910497I'll give you a life stone instead. You young demons need plenty of these so you can get bigger.
also this is the best bedroom out of them all
Also is it me or is SMT CD the slowest to navigate?
I haven't browsed /smtg/ regularly since IVA came out. Give me a quick run down on the latest happenings. I thought since sj deep came out we'd be alive but I guess not.I missed you guys
>>197912457Would you trust this man?
>>197912504SMTV is a thing and its switch exclusive, but it is coming over here
>>197912504Jack Frost metroidvania on PC.
>>197912970Yeah I heard about that, looks like I have to buy a Switch I guess>>197913121I saw image floating around but I thought it was just fan art someone made, is it any good?Are we still /coffhee/ posting or have we moved onto bigger and better memes?
>>197897703>Implying that /smtg/ doesn't already have our own girls that /pg/ can only dream about having
What's the difference between the music collection and ripped OST of IV in the pastebin? I just want the godlike soundtrack on my foobar.
>>197872085>Staying out of conflicts is also law.Purging the others opinions is law. The result of this is "no conflicts". It's not a peace alignment, it's not pacifism. If there's something that go against the law, they will do coercion and use violence, enforcing their ideals on the others.The Chozo colonized worlds, but don't enforced their culture to the world's species. And they are happy to share knowledge with anyone. This is not law.
>>197918515If the Space Pirates are chaos and the Chozo are neutral, then who would be law? The Galactic Federation?
My demons are a bit different!
>>197903393Chiaki is actually nocturne's designated LI character, as we see in drama CD. She along with Isamu also fit the criteria of "MC-girlfriend-sidekick" starter trio P3,DS1,DS2 have. The reason she wasn't popular is because she wasn't a doormat who follow your every decision,a coward or a neutralfag.
>>197903393One is right outside the terminal in the underground pass, one is in a room at the hospital (second floor at the end of a hallway), and the final one is somewhere in the underground tunnels where you need to light the way with items.
>>197919040>the galactic federationProbably yes
>>197912504You missed the best SMT novel ever made.
>>197925164You can't just tell us to die. You have to ask us.
what alignment gets me a gf?
>>197926387SMT I,II - main heroine stay with you in all alignmentSMT III - neutral you get a chance to be with either Chiaki or Yuuko again. If you want demon harem go TDE.SMT IV - You die alone and single in Law. You get Isabeau in Neutral. In Chaos you probably get to bang Hikaru/Walter and make a new race of human-demon hybrid.SMT IVA: Bonds and Massacre provided you didn't choose a dude to be your goddess.SJ - Probably Law as you get Zelenin.DS1 - all of them except evil Chaos where you kill Amane and btfo Yuzu. You bastard.DS2 - can't think of any route where you don't have female obligated party member (Io for neutral, Makoto and Fumi for Meritocracy, Otome for Socialism). Can you do AO route without Io?
>>197925164If we die, then we'll haunt you forever!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LinYx6hdHG0All right, fuckers, new nonogram!
Are we all in agreement that DDS1+2, P1 and IV have the best OST's?
>>197934040You forgot #FE.
>>197934214The mid-boss theme is good.https://youtu.be/80i-m2e6gWAI need to pick it up again but Xenoblade 2 is taking all my time up for now.
>>197934040I never listen to DDS1/2s soundtrack but I agree. P1 and IV are just awesome. P2 as well I think, particularly with Innocent Sin.
>>197934624It's an excellent game, one of the best I've played in a while.
>>197911723>Law>ChadLaw = Cucks Lawfags would follow anyone's leadership as long as it is even distantly like YHVH's law.
>>197932718Is that the doomguy or Anthony?
Is there any indicating that the demon will cheat you in negotiation? It become kinds of annoying in SMT IV.
>>197930912consider more complex ones maybeI don't really like how awkwardly this one came together though, some of the shapes were misleading. I did guess from the start what it would be though based on that big gap in the middle.
>>197936656Congratulations on completing the quest!
>>197936543it's random, but it's actually relatively uncommon. the thing is that most people get cheated once and then never negotiate again. plus there's stigma from the community.i negotiated dozens of times in smtiv and got cheated maybe two or three times. i think there's some apps that help with it
>>197934624I can't hate a game that has this guy in it.
>>197937920What, can't deal with Pouchman's glory?
>>197938021Why is his body 300 times the size of his head?
>>197911723>the virgin law hero>wears ridiculous oversized red sweater he probably got from his dad>has slicked back hair to show off his pimples>tries his damndest to walk in front of the roastie to assert his dominance or whatever>probably hooked up with his roastie at some bible reading session, had to ask his mom to wait at the car>girl looks absolutely bored, not even paying attention to her 'man'>the chad chaos hero>dons his school shooter getup out in public because fuck the police>wears glasses as a fashion choice to make himself stand out as an intelligent, nihilistic, and wicked person>wears some shitty old loafers he stole from a store two blocks down, didn't even go outside with shoes this morning>follows the crowd, because he's not some dumb normie who tries desperately to stick out and acts like an autist doing so (like law hero), knows he sticks out regardless because the rest of the image is in ugly ass sequoia>stands with perfect posture to strike fear into the hearts of messian soyboys and betatron's divinecuck squad>probably is holding both of his demonic cocks through his trenchcoat, suit is perfectly tailored to hold his massive girths>all the men in the image are walking away from him while all the roasties and stacies walk towards him, commands pussy by his very presence
blasted or infernal tokyo?
>>197938626hm, let's see>dead wasteland with almost zero resources still mostly covered in poisonous fog, also god hates you and constantly sends down robots to destroy you, plus resources will be even tighter once the pods from the ancient of days dlc land>mostly intact tokyo where you can live out the rest of your days getting sucked off by busty demonesses or get as much power as you want if you're strong enoughgee i wonder
>>197935530>>197938468>Law = CucksIn SMT1 pre-war Only Law hero has a GFChaos hero died getting cucked by the hero in the Chaos route or got dumped in Neutral and Law
>>197899896Only because this place is filled with autists.
>>197940980very funny, law hero, but your 'GF' was a dumb roastie who even made up the excuse that she was a dead spirit just so she wouldn't have to see her soyboy ass anymore. make no mistake, after the nukes hit she was drowning in that BDC.
>>197920258No, the reason she wasn't popular is because she's associated with the less interesting chaos ending in the game. Not only that its chaos masquerading as law, so you don't even get a rebellious tone. You just kind of look like an asshole.
>>197935530Stop committing beastality with Bobo and fuse with Beelzebub already.
>>197918515You realize that unlike chaos demons who were sealed away, angels actually had access to the world for much of its history but didn't do anything right? Angels are generally pacifistic, and their goal is a world of pacifism. They are meant to resemble the contrast between angels at normal times in the bible versus during the apocalypse. Most games just happen to be during the apocalypse.Chozo's lifestyle and aesthetic comes off heavily law leaning. Them not using force doesn't really mean anything, since they weren't in a situation where it would make sense to. Obviously they aren't perfectly law resembling, but they are one of the closer things in fiction.
>>197941360Even the Demons Make Fun of Chaos "Hero"
>>197926387Everything except dark neutral.
>>197941360No, they even made a visionary item in the GBA port to stress how much of a chad Law Hero is.
SMTI might seem like it has a straightforward plot. But really, the entire thing is just an unreliable narrator misleading you about the secret true plot.To wit (I don't even know what that means), remember something obvious about the plot. Law hero is a typical chadbro wearing regular tyler durden clothes and has a girlfriend. Chaos hero is a nerdy loser with glasses who thought wearing a camo trenchcoat to school would stop him from getting beat up by other chads, but it failed. He is later shown holding machine guns while wearing a trench coat. Its obvious what he's fantasizing about here.The story actually takes place in the present, years after high school. Chaos hero is upset that the chad that beat him up became a fortune 500 ceo, and chaos hero still mentally never developed, stopped being on the spectrum, or grew past his high school rivalry mentality, which is why he still sees himself as that age. Chad Ozawa doesn't even remember who chaos hero is anymore. So chaos hero starts having a fantasy of revenge that begins with slicing his bullies in half with a katana. This is why all the characters are white, but it takes place in "japan." They aren't really in japan, he just projects his life as taking place there. The characters' appearances are subtly letting you know this, as does the lack of it making sense that its a plot about white people and Christianity versus atheism.
>>197941835For fuck's sake. Law isn't all about angels or YHWH. We're talking about people here. What even is Tokyo Millennium, anon?And Chozo were in a situation where it would make sense to use violence, when they discovered the x parasite, but they choose to create another lifeform to control the virus.
Chaos hero has a fantasy of being friends with two normies who in real life barely know him since they hung out one time in high school, one of whom is borderline chad. And the tension there is because he secretly envies chads, while hating them on the outside. The reality bleeds through, since he was never really close with these people in general. Eventually this gets the better of him, that he is is too much of a loser to hang out with these chads, so he makes up an excuse about how its secretly because he's a more badass demon ninja than them, and buys a katana online that he starts bringing around with him because he wants to feel powerful. Then lo and behold, it turns out that law chadbro is a christian no less, like all chads claim to be. Chaos hero sees him acting Like he thinks all christians do. He is literally brainwashed and is proud about this, wearing a pope hat over his lobotomy scars like people with the burg think all Christians actually act like. Through the lens of chaos hero, this makes him a brainwashed sheeple, which is why he sees him as having literally gotten a lobotomy, and blames religion for why chaos hero doesn't get initiated into the secrets of how to get a real human girlfriend like law hero and hero, who he both wants to learn from, but also hates since he can't admit he is jealous of them.
Like all weaboos, his fantasy gets totally divorced from reality and he imagines himself having to use ninja skills and demon power to defend japan from christianity for some reason. Since no real girls will date him, he imagines himself having a radical demon sex waifu, but even in his fantasy ends up getting friendzoned. Eventually he snaps and tries to assault people in a church with his sword before getting dropped by a chad. His last line that he says to himself while dying after getting shot by the police actually reveals the entire hidden plot. He admits that everything was a dream. But is conflicted between his thoughts going back and forth between his good dream of revenge, and the nightmare of his actual reality.
>>197941740>>197942191>>197942465>>197942654>>197942825Glad to see /smtg/ got back to its lawful self,welcome back brothers!
>>197942465>>197942654>>197942825I never thought of it like that.
>>197943598Looking great, son of man. It's not completely done is it? Because her right hand looks weird.
>>197943598Based law mother. Gives birth to an orderly society while chaos autists pretend they're not pedos for liking toki.
>>197943902It's you, lawfag, who has the pic of toki's ass.
>>197942465>>197942654>>197942825>law hero has a mental breakdown as usual in a desperate attempt to prove he's part of the chad ensembleyou do realize this makes you look like a joke in the patrician scene, yes?>>197942191the visionary items are the dumbest fucking pieces of shit in this entire series. regardless, heroine was already zeroed in on hero's cock. girls usually say 'you're pretty popular with the ladies' to try and get horny beta orbiters away from them so they can creep on other girls. i mean you wouldn't know this, since lawfags rarely leave the divine sanctity of their basement, but it does happen.>>197941984i'd rather be a weak man who wants power than a soyboy cuck who lusts after one woman and then gets his ass handed to him multiple times
>>197944026>the visionary items are the dumbest fucking pieces of shit in this entire series.Why? Many of them give what were supposed to be major characters much needed characterization.
>>197944160because there's stupid fucking shitty dialogue that makes autists think completely differently about the lore and shit. it's why beadman always goes on about how law isn't related to 'god' or whatever because of that one with zayin. they're cool little offshoots but nothing more, and people take them way too seriously.also>needed characterizationhahahaaha. every character in this series is a walking bundle of cliches and is really just a setpiece. none of them 'need' characterization
anybody know what happened to the wiki? every time i try to go on i get hit by some referrer url which changes it to some shitty broken alt versioni have to block the script in umatrix to get it to fuck off
>>197944471>that makes autists think completely differently about the lore and shit.So you're mad because they clarify that things are different than you like?> law isn't related to 'god' or whatever because of that one with zayin. You mean smtii? I don't know if you realize this but you kill god in the base game.>hahahaaha. every character in this series is a walking bundle of cliches and is really just a setpiece. none of them 'need' characterizationOh. I didn't realize you were just shitposting.
>>197943813Haha yeah, I spent too much time on the hair to the point that it made me feel sick with this piece, and I really don't feel like fixing anything else. I think I'll just call it finished at this point.
>>197944026>be a weak man who wants power who lusts after one woman and then gets his ass handed to him multiple timesYou just described Chaos Hero 100%
>>197944654No, I'm mad because people take away way too much from them. >you mean smtiiYou don't understand. Beadman constantly has this argument where law isn't related to YHVH (because yhvh is evil and beadman's as hardcore a lawfag as they come) because of one of the visionary items where zayin talks to some powerful entity that doesn't call itself god but basically is. I don't really get it or care. But he's retarded and so are you.>just shitpostingHave you ever wondered why nocturne, the best game in the series, is the best, despite having very little in the way of plot or characterization? and why smtiva, which has a ton of dialogue and characters, is so hated? this series gets bogged down by those elements. atlus are terrible writers.
>>197945286>I don't really get it or careHow incoherent your responses are is making that obvious. Not sure what the fuck you're on about, but you kill yhvh in the regular II. That has nothing to do with visionary items.>Have you ever wondered why nocturne, the best game in the series, is the best, despite having very little in the way of plot or characterization? Its like you're trying to be retarded now. You realize that nocturne added the equivalent of visionary items with the plot revelations told to you by the lady in black, right? Literally the entirety of tde is a plot expansion. Its not just a different outcome, but something that radically transforms your understanding of the in-game world.
>>197945668>you kill yhvh in the regular IIAre you actually retarded? Do you seriously not know what I'm talking about? Beadman's already posted his shitty dissertation hundreds of times here about that visionary. At least try not to sound like a newfag.>like you're trying to be retardedHahahaha what the fuck are you on dude. Why are you talking about visionary items in nocturne? I used nocturne as an example of why the best atlus games have very little plot or characterization. the lady in black just tells you more about the cosmology of the world.I think you're genuinely having a stroke right now, and should lie down. I know that little lawfag brain of yours gets furious when up against the superior chaos intellect but this is frankly embarrassing.
>>197936543Wait, demons can cheat you in SMTIV?
>>197946214>Do you seriously not know what I'm talking about?You don't even know what you're trying to talk about, so its a given that no one else is going to be able to follow this incoherent simpering. I'm pretty sure I've read what you seem to be referring to, but who gives a shit? It doesn't matter. You seem to be operating on some weird delusional belief that somehow ignores that you already kill yhvh on law in that game, and that people who think otherwise are getting this from visionary items. No, its in the base game. Visionary items are expanding on this, not somehow introducing it.>Hahahaha what the fuck are you on dude. Why are you talking about visionary items in nocturne? I used nocturne as an example of why the best atlus games have very little plot or characterization. the lady in black just tells you more about the cosmology of the world.The funny thing here is that its pretty obvious that you realized that you lost here, and so took ten minutes to think of a response that could disguise this, and so went with a shitpost that tried to gloss over this admission.
>>197946371Take all the money and items you gave them and leave.
>>197946371They do it in MT1/2 as well. You didn't know?
>>197946642Oh, that's what you meant.
>>197946214Are you phi, samsarakarma, or jarinjove? This is advanced shitposting.
>>197946878Just don't respond.
>>197946914The three worst people who post here.
>>197947154Other than phi, what evidence is there that those other people even post here? You keep saying they do, but I've never seen any evidence.
>The Meta Chaos hero has a higher STR stat than the Meta Law hero in SMT1>The Meta Chaos hero has a higher INT stat than the Meta Law hero in SMT1 >The magic damaging attack of the Meta Chaos hero in smt1 (maragion) has a higher base attack power than the magic damaging attack of the Law hero in smt1 (mazanma)lol
>>197944471>Not appreciating the intellectual discussion that the expanded lore generates
>>197946878>mmmh mmmh I don't like this guy he must be from reddit!how bout you go back.>>197946618>who gives a shit?You, apparently, you haven't stopped focusing on this one thing. That's a trait of people on the spectrum, by the way. All I was doing was using it as an example of how visionary items make people lead to very weird conclusions on the lore.>you realized that you lost hereoh sorry, didn't realize i was in the presence of the mighty keyboard warrior clan. sorry. i surrender.
>>197947307Ok, but who has the higher MAG stat? If I remember correctly MAG is the magic power and INT is the magic defense
>>197946242There's nothing worse than making a level 80~ nekomata and being bothered by a "do you want to let this pokemon" evolve message every time she levels up.
>>197947885You're not fooling anyone. Admit that you didn't think through your comment before praising nocturne, and go away. Unless of course you actually mean that you like nocturne, the base game without tde additions.
>>197947295Why do you even respond to that guy? He most likely started posting here recently (since this obsession over guys I never heard about a year ago is new) and still can't get over the fact that people here are anonymous, trying to make this place a little more familiar by bringing those people up every chance he gets.He, the guy who always whines about how people can just pretend they didn't "lose" because they're anonymous and people who prefer reddit's system over 4chan's in general should not be taken seriously or be responded to. If they get no responses and things don't change they'll either accept how things work here and adapt or fuck off.
>>197948163I think you're thinking of multiple people as one person.
>>197948003Same with Uber Pixie.
>>197947889Indeed, in terms of the MAG stat, the Law hero wins, however, maragion is noticeably more powerful than Law hero's mazanma, so I guess the chaos hero's final magic power output would be the same or slightly higher (ofc this does not take elemental resistances into account, but iirc most demons in smt1 don't have a significant fire or force resistance).
Send help, requiem keeps killing me even after I buff and debuff
>>197952286and they say mem aleph is hardhang in there chaosbro
>>197952567Was responding to some shitty edit of a Demi-Fiend drawingDunno why the guy deleted it, though
>>197947154>>197947154I don't suck beadman's dick all day like this loser. Actually, I'm only in this thread because these accusations keep flying around, I'd like you to stop posting about discord and reddit drama bullshit here.
>>197952286Isn't that entire fight literally RNG? Just swarm her to stack damage and hope for the best. Make sure to use an entire team of Chaos-aligned demons so you get co-op attacks off.
>>197952992>hope for the bestThis is SJ boss fights.
>>197952567It's a joke,most newbies say they have such a hard time against Mot... Found this one somewhere,kinda funny since mot has a black hand lol
whites = lawblacks = chaos??? = neutral?
is she fusable?
>>197953252kanbari is the only exception to this
>>197953790>>197953790You can't divide the alignments through ethnicity.There's a lot of diversity in law, chaos and neutral.But, if you're considering only the main representatives, Law is judeo-christian, chaos too and neutral is japanese.
>>197954863so neutral = chinks? that's all you had to say dumbass
>>197954993>japs>chinksretardt. ching chang bing ling
>>197954993literally what are you doing
>>197954468Damn, cant negotiate with a dumb person.
>>197955158Oh, fuck. Now i'm the dumb one. The reply is for >>197954993
>>197955514I-i fucked up, i'm sorry.
Someone post a link to the discord
>>197955846DON'T DO IT
>>197955998Post the link Dagda
>>197954468Don't think so.
>>197958167wtfeven Krishna was fusable,
>>197953790Go away Phi
>>197958556Does she have a boss fight? I can understand if she doesnt fight anyone.
>>197953790I'm on mobile can someone post low quality bait?
>>197958625>phi>lawloving every laugh
>>197958556Doesn't seem to have a boss fight unlike other mothers except the Deep route boss. Though I haven't seen gameplay since someone streamed it and the wiki isn't updated, wonder if the guy who dumped it found if she was a fusable demon
>>197954468I believe so.
>>197959539HOLY SHIT MY BOY BEELZEBUB DIDN'T GET FUCKED OVER IN THIS GAMEABOUT TIME HE MAKES A PROPER REAPPEARANCE
>>197959539Oh hey, you can actually get Mary.
>>197953790At least get the races right. Zelenin is white, Jimenez is Hispanic, Gore is black.
>>197959539When do you even unlock her fusion
>>197961437She's probably NG+
>>197943902Chaos is proving your independence by making love to multi-breasted monstrosity like Inanna. Pedos are neutral fags who use moral ambiguity to justify their obsession with Toki.
>>197962653I dont need to justify anything. Toki is simply the best girl and hot as fuck.
>>197962861Of course you do, why settle for a girl when you can have an adult demon woman with lots of experience?
>>197943902What if I told you I was a chaosfag and despised Toki? She was only good for combat.
>>197963510Fuck off with your thots
>>197952381Thanks I literally just beat her
>>197966384GOOD JOB ANON
Who the fuck is Helel and why does he look like Lucifer if he was in a k-pop band
Leaked screenshot of Shin Megami Tensei V.
I love the Demonica Girls!
>>197967154he's just lucifer 2: jewish boogaloo
>>197967489All of them except ZE LENIN look like generic npcs that would normally be faceless.
>>197969764They literally were.
>>197971778What about YHVH?
Looks like the quest is going well
>>197972639blocks your US release
Are there any enemies in Nocturne with Pierce? I'm trying to build an invincible Michael and I finally got a mitama with Pierce and Focus but Phys Drain instead of reflect.
>>197973342Every enemy in the late game has it. You might as well discard it.
>>197976647No they don't. Bosses have almighty attacks in place of physical ones, but not Pierce.
>>197976962>http://ebten.jp/atlus/p/7015017120901/>>197976962>962▶>File: DQc9VGpU8AAiYM_.jpg (54 KB, 500x500)I'm interested in this
KINDA JUST BE THERE, SMTG
>>197984051Jokes on youI'm already dead
Let me sleep, please! I am a man, half human
i like chex quest. i like rpg
>>197927631are you implying you wouldn't dick down hallelujah
Some nice scans from the Japanese Raidou manual.While Raidou himself is often praised I thin the other character designs from the Raidou games deserve just as much praise. They're more down to earth compared to a lot of Kaneko's work but have a nice pleasantness to them.
>>197987203Rasputin, my bro.
>>197987203I remember going into Raidou and being completely blindsided that they just straight up put Rasputin in it. He was one of the more interesting characters too.
>>197987862fighting at the church with him is one of the great moments of raidou 1.
>>197988578It was the peak of the game for me, but I also ended up getting really sick of the game by the end of it. Gameplay lacks depth badly, but the setting, characters, and music really make up for it.
>>197988578Raidou games give a lot of memorable moments since it has some of, arguably even the most, developed characters in the series. Raidou 2 also has a really amazing cast with probably the most interesting chaos and law representative in the entire series, people just overrate how shitty the Shinado scenes are.
Is she the best SMT girl?
>>197989258Her hair is cute.
Are Raidou's sideburns the strongest character in all of SMT?
Anyone got a link to the SMT4 Apocalypse sound scheme for windows?I remember an anon from here made and posted that a while back.Maybe I'm blind, but I don't see it in the pastebins. Help an anon out.
Can the Persona protags be given alignments based on their actions in their various games?
>>197990909I'd say Joker is Chaos, and that's probably intentional because most of P5 was trying to introduce mainline concepts to Persona only fans.
>>197990909>>197991138Sort if debatable but it's hard to say really. I guess if anything most would just default to neutral. I know most say Joker is chaos but I think they're not thinking how extreme the alignments actually are in SMT. I don't see any Persona protagonist being extreme enough to be either law or chaos personally.
>>197991138I'd agree that Joker being Chaos orintated would be a given, i have a hard time getting a pin on the rest though.>>197991340I agree that they are certainly not to the proper extreme that would put them in line with Jonathan and Walter, however do you think any of them be more inclined to one alignment over another based of their actions?There's probably not much to go off, i just thought it might be an interesting thing to look at.
>>197991340Could it be possible to argue that joker was law? What with the whole "forcing bad people to admit to their crimes and atone" thing.
>>197991649You could look at it that way, the main evidence people claim Joker is chaos mostly for taking down Demiurge, who is one of the highest ranking law aligned demons in the series. Honestly I just don't think there is enough to work with for the most part but that's just me.
>>197991649They were using means outside the law to do so though. They were imposing their will on others using their powers. Very chaos.>>197991614If you want to take shots in the dark, maybe Door-kun could be law or neutral since he opposes radical change to the status quo such as Apathy Syndrome. Whether that's Law for thinking people should behave in a nonapathetic way or Neutral for wanting to keep the status quo is up to you. The devs almost certainly didn't intend any alignment for any of them save maybe Joker.
>>197991649not him, but i'd argue that what pushes Joker towards chaos was his he was willing to step out of the bounds of the law to achieve justice, and did so often.
>>197992232>not naming it 'Behold my demons'missed opportunity
>>197991649Nah Raidou Chaos proves you can be part of society and follow societal rules until you disagree with them.The Thieves also clearly profit off items from the Metaerse. Phantom Thieves have always been chaotic fellows working within or outside the Law to do what they feel is right. And get the rush of screwing over villains/messing with cops and making a tidy profit in the process if they keep it.
>>197954863Kunitsu/Japanese gods side with Chaos too.Yatagarau are treated as angels when part of YHVHs side cause they side cause they serve him.
>>197847203i think it's more about looking artificial, fake, lifeless, which works with yhvh's universe which is also very artificial, geometric in design, full of cubes. probably related to the gnostic demiurge again, who doesn't possess the power to create true life, just the ability to rearrange matter into shapes reflecting its imperfect soul.
>>197994963It was drawn by Kaneko, therefore it is a perfect flawless design that is immune to any criticisms.
>>197994963It's so perfect I don't even need to defend it
>>197994963Fat pig with a fat pig purse for symbolism~
>>197989258>nemissa exist so no
Who's your favorite protag?
>pg in meltdown that it didn't get anything anything for video game awardsKek
>>197996546it won best RPG
>>197996546we won best rpg. Also fuck of /v/, we don't want you heere either.
>>197996182Flynn, but i've only played IV and Apoc so my experience is limited.
>>197996182It's a toss-up between Aleph and Demi-Fiend for me.
>>197996182Mt2 protagonist >hero> Able>raidou>hackerMy personal opinion for top t
>>197995575They should have had a Baubo along with Demeter in Deep. Goofy goddess that has a face on her chest, visible vulva in Greek artwork, and association with pigs.
>>197997658Oh yeah, also another excuse for Doi to stick Devilman references because body structure is somewhat like Psychogenie.
>>197996182Marine, Raidou close behind though.
>>197996182Flynn because I'm a dumb fujo
>>197998206I fail to see how the two traits are connected.
>>197996583>winning a award offstageJUST
>>197996182Demifiend or Doomguy because I ship both with Louisa
>>197998115How the FUCK could I forget about space marine? How does SMT have so many food protags?Doomguy>LOSARM>hero>able>Raidou
>>197996182/ourguy/ Nakajima. Or The Hero.
>>197996546>pg in meltdown once more after Conan destroyed them
>>197999060>MT had 2 amazing protags>ALL mainline are at least good>has amazing spin off protags like raidou/able and hacker We are blessed friends
>>197999294>pg in meltdown once more after Conan destroyed themExplain?
>>197999379So he's either biting dick or eating puss?
>>197999573I'm fine with either, but Louisa is my favorite Lucifer in general. In my fluff fic, Lucifer takes the form of Louisa post-TDE.
>>197813578>desu 2 is normal tierhe gets to become the admin in record breaker
>>197999520a Clueless Gamer segment about the 5 GOTY nomineeshe dissed every single one with P5, wrecked the most
should my first smt game be nocturne or dds
>>197999362Yeah we'had it pretty good for the most part. Flower-kun/Kaneko is looking pretty good from the little we know.
>>198000310I think Nocturne might be better as DDS is a spinoff and quite a bit different from the other games in terms of mechanics. Both are well worth playing but Nocturne will better familiarize you with what you should expect from SMT.
>>197917886Too weak imo. I just spam antichthon.
>>198000310Nocturne's better, as it introduces you to stuff like demon fusion.Strange Journey's also good if you're looking to get into older entries, like 1/2 or the first two Devil Summoner games.
>>197986037Not when toki exists.
>>197996182The most stylish of them all
>>197960921zelenin is russian my boy
>>197999520He just read the back of persona 5's box.It was "Spend the days as a normal student, go to school, hang out with friends, hold a part-time job"And then Conan said something like "What an amazing fantasy world this game is giving us, a pity we already are living in it", not exactly that, but that's the idea.. And then he throw the box away.
>While in later Zoroastrianism, the daevas are demons, this is not yet evident in the Gathas: Zoroaster stated that the daevas are "wrong gods" or "false gods" that are to be rejected, but they are not yet demons. In Yasna 32.3, these daevas are identified as the offspring, not of Angra Mainyu, but of akem manah, "evil thinking".SMT both shows me a bunch of new ideas/cultures and ruins them.
We did it /smtg/, we did it.
>>198003196tf is happening?
>>198003196>page is locked
>>198003348>>198003238It's the wikipedia page of the passionate man who said FUCK THE OSCARS and that EA, the publisher of his game, should fuck themselves. All on stage. Live. With doritos man.
>>198003703holy shit!! nice job then
>>198003703Okay, so what? What's this got to do with SMT?
>>198004023I don't know.It wasn't me who fucked up the wikipedia page with the name of raidou's ost.
>>198002937>implying Able top tier Megaten protagHis brother is a bit cringe but he's cool
>>198004281Naoya is literally the best chaos rep prove me wrong
ok, apparently it's P5 page's turn
>>198004946I agree. He is cringe but actually merciful
>>198004281You retard, you're spelling the name wrong. It's Abel, not Able. A Bel.
>>198006953I'm surprised it took this long for somebody to correct him.
>>198007140The guy was too stupid to realize that my initial post was calling attention to the incorrect spelling.
>>198007215I know, I thought that was funny. He even got srious replies.
>>198005448Why is Gale so fucking good compared to every other character in the DDS games.
>>198002412Russians aren't white?
>>198009118They are Chinese adapted to colder climate
>>198006953>implying I wasn't at work and it wasn't auto correcting
>>198009118Western Russians are.
>>198009719Maybe you should kill yourself, retarded phoneposter.
>>198009849>having a job is badI will agree 4chan should block posting from phones though. 80% of phone posting is either a grammatical mess or a bad shitpost.
I ran out of translated smt games and am about to play Catherine. What I'm I in for /smtg/?
>>198009719You should be abel to spell things correctly, retard.
How does repair garageism works?
>>198012453repair the shit out of things
>>198010003Please point out where in my posts I stated anything along the lines of having a job being bad.God, you really are a fucking retard. As expected of a phoneposter.
>>198010736Did you play my novel, fucker?>>198009118Russians are worst.
>>198010736catherine is the first SMT game where people learn where their real aligment loyalty lies
>>198014286I finished it like 3 hours after you posted it you self hating Russian
>>198014512Some choices seem super counter intuitive to the point I think the game assumes your lying. Just got past the first bit and boy am I bad at puzzle platformers. Appears fun though
>>198014961Hm, you're the one who posted karaoke screen from the ending?
to commemorate Kiwami 2 being out in Japan,FEEL THE HEAT!!https://youtu.be/bUdLy04xTGk
Don't die, stupid thread.
>>198017626Wait a moment, I don't recall hp bars for bosses in the original SJ. Was this always a thing?
>>198017720it's a thing in the remake
>>198017775Can it be turned off? Really takes any fun out of things if you know how long until the boss dies.
>>198017816I dunno,but hopefully the game lets you
>>198017816It's from #fe, probably.IV and IVA also have 'low hp" indicators.
>>198017958Low HP is one thing, which is already bad by itself, but attacking a boss or even random encounters until they drop and not knowing how strong they are makes it a lot more fun and adds suspense.
>>197911965Better than sleeping on the floor like in the snes version, but the GBA bedroom is still superior. Anyone have a screencap of the PSX bedroom?
I've been playing Strange Journey and kind of liking it, but I got up to the shopping mall sector and burnt out when it introduced the dark bits. I liked the start and when the first sector revealed the blitz thing, but since then the game has just been an exercise in frustration
>>198022939Being a first-person dungeon crawler means SJ is definitely not for everyone. Don't feel bad if it stops clicking with you.
>>198022939It's actually my favorite game in the series but I can agree that some of the levels sucked. Eridanus made me suicidal goddammit.
>>198023381You didn't like Eranidus? I loved that place. Felt like a fucking king when I conquered the teleporter maze by memory.
>>198023506Nope, I usually get past mazes in vidya through pure luck (like that weird dream realm in SMT1) but with Eridanus fortune did not smile upon me at all. Stumbled around a lot, I wanted to use a guide but I had to be a man about it.
>>198024000Kudos for not caving in, anon.
>tfw spent hours in one floor of Horologium falling down pits over and over just to satisfy my autism of not leaving a single square of the map unexplored
>>198023506>not drawing up your own mapthe virgin dungeon crawlerthe chad master cartographer
>>198025897>implying a chad would use a map and not just tell the maze to reconfigure itself so he can pass through
>>198025970What do you think making your own map is? You draw what you see, and making the dungeon change itself to suit your needs is part of it.
>>198029427>slime flavored ice cream >implying it's delicious10/10 mad af
>>198024304Those invisible walls wrecked my shit for the entire day. I hope I get past it easy when DEEP releases in the west.
>>198015687No, that was me.
>>197996182probably the hero or demi fiend
>>198031219My heroI'm proud of you
>>198031809I didn't like it though to be completely honest with you, my good man.
>>197996182Marine and Aleph...don't care about the rest
>>198037821Let me sleep, please! I am a man, half human
>>198034663I didn't like it too much either, but at least it was a lot more enjoyable than my worthless Doom wad.
>>198020914It's just that, but better looking.
>>198008018And that's saying something, since DDS already has some fucking amazing characters.
>>198008018I recall reading something about how Serph wasn't gonna be a silent protagonist but they switched ideas and created Gale with some of Serph's personality.
>>198041191Makes sense, they're both rather stoic in expression.
>>198041191Yeah, I am reading the first volume of Quantum Devil Saga currently and Serph has a voice and a personality similar to that of Gale.Image limit reached. New thread?
>>198041942Just 3 more posts anyways.
>>197996182Flynn or Doomguy
Chaosniggers glow in the dark. If you see one run him over
>>197996182Hideto > Nakajima > Doomguy > Piercy > Able > Demifiend > Aleph > Bunny > Hero > Serph > Minato > Minako > El > Yu
>>197996182Tatsuya Suou or Maya Amano
>>198042905Dark-Law in a nutshell.
>image limit reached>bump limit reached>page 10
>>198045985welcome to the machine