Welcome to the Sonic the Hedgehog General. Share art and music, argue, discuss new developments, ROM hacks, speedrunning, comics, and anything Sonic related!/sthg/ #1146 - Rouge belongs in /trash/ edition>Sonic News<Sonic Mania and Sonic Forces have released Xbox One, PS4, Nintendo Switch & PC.Sonic Adventure 2 is Now Backwards Compatible on Xbox Onehttps://twitter.com/majornelson/status/936278917299699712Sonic Runners Adventure - Available Now on the App Store & Google Playhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u5_3hCz7j4Sonic Hacking Contest 2017 Results Herewww.tssznews.com/2017/11/26/sonic-hacking-contest-2017-winners-announced/>General Interest Links<General Link Compilationhttp://pastebin.com/J6hTXkhKDrawfag/Writefag Idea Wallshttp://pastebin.com/j8KkPQ4nhttp://pastebin.com/w88ZRNzi/sthg/'s Refurbished Drawfag Booruhttp://sthg.booru.org/Bump and Sage Merchhttps://www.redbubble.com/people/rikdraws/collections/781747-bump-and-sageEvent/Video Streaming Sitehttps://cytu be/r/sthg/sthg/ Level Development Kit 4.0https://mega.nz/#!WV8ThDbL!DsLYUlzdBiNX3CaJyJU-oeU8UNxdYPttzQ9LUJA7G7gClover Heights Zone (V2) by GHPAnonhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw9wQojS0lxpNDlDMkg2RnpnTTQ/view?usp=sharingDevKit Character Controller Feedback Sheethttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1Yg4kwxlaVrxnoc6Vqo7cfFAPt7CFAg4DTYXeD03W2jI/editSonic Boom Seasons 1 & 2 can be watched here:https://kimcartoon.me/Cartoon/Sonic-BoomPrevious Act >>200589318
Sonic, did I ever tell you about the time I was responsible for my entire clan getting thrown into the Twilight Cage? After Pachacamac and his people were wiped out by the water monster, the Nocturnus Clan continued their technological advancements. Eventually I befriended a newly created Gizoid and shared my knowledge with him. The Gizoid eventually grew so powerful that tentacles came out of the sky and dragged us all into another dimension.He was a good friend.
Well shit, I made >>200663575 literally five seconds before this one. Which is the real /sthg/?
Reminder that Knuckles doesn't love Rouge and they will never be together.
>>200663852Sometimes this happens when a thread is deleted. Multiple people step up to the plate and make them at the same time.No biggie. We can just use this one cause it was linked. /sthg/ is a good community.
>>200663852You need to link it in the previous thread as well otherwise it's moot. It's a two step procedure so technically this is the right thread.
None of those pics were crossing the line.
>>200664015This is fine.>>200664102The thread was deleted due to thotposting so it couldn't be linked.
>>200664225They were still eating up the image limit.
>>200664248No, i'm talking about this thread compared to the Blaze thread >>200663852 made. This was linked in the previous thread while the Blaze one wasn't. If both are linked you go to the one that came first.
/sthg/ is dying... isn't it?
>>200664752From tragedy and death, life will be born anew.From mistakes... into miracles... it will live on.
What is your favorite zone and why is it Green Hill Zone?
>>200664752Hard to say.We can survive without constant new content, but not if we remain fractured.The whole "_____ aspect of the sonic franchise shouldn't be allowed here" mentality is toxic.
Do you think Traveller's Tales should have another shot at a Sonic game? It doesn't seem like Dimps is interested in making more Sonic games.
>>200665257Only Mania and mainline 3D games are allowed from now on. The days of side games are gone for good.
>>200665389>implying Mania isn't a side game. I raughed.
>>200665257Lego Dimensions is the only 3D Sonic game to have non-scripted loops. So, yeah. I say give 'em a shot. S'got potential.
>>200665257They made the only 3D sonic game featuring unscripted loops, SEGA should let them do whatever they want for, like, two years and release whatever labour of love rolls out.
>>200665389That's disappointing. I guess Sonic really is a budget series now with the only side games being mobile apps.
>>200665728>Blaze:I THOUGHT YOU LOVED ME! I THOUGHT YOU CARED! I KNEW THIS WOULD HAPPEN! YOU PICKED A CHIPMUNK OVER ME! YOU NEVEER CARED ABOUT ME! YOU JUST CARE ABOUT A STUPID CHIPMUNCK! I SAW IT ALL! ANWAY! WHO WOULD YOU PICK? ME OR A DUMB,STUPID CHIPMUNCK! I HATE YOU! I HATE EVERYONE WHO ARE HAPPY! I HATE SALLY! My favorite issue desu
>>200666016>Story 1>In Sonic Marries Sally part 2 . The SonAlly story is still going. Blaze heartbroken and Sonic and Sally happy. Tails has made a newspaper called "The Mobouis Mag". Tails wrote about Sonic and Sally getting married. Which makes Blaze more sad.Silver invites Blaze to the wedding then she bursts into tears.Rose invites Tails and Tails invites Cream then Cream invites Lily after that Lily invites Keona. After the wedding, Blaze goes up to Sonic a slaps him in the face. She then runs off crying.>Story 2>Fiona loves Scrouge>Story 3>Sonic LOLS.Pure kino.
>>200665257Depends on what kind of game they would want to make.
>>200665728>>200666016>>200666587Can you stop posting this autistic shit?We literally just had a thread get deleted. We're probably on a tight leash.
What's with the .01% thing at the end of Forces?It goes to 100% for your side then plops back to 99.99%.Is that a cut idea for a secret ending or stage or just buggy numbers being unable to display complete zeros?
>>200665257I don't know. Sonic played fine in Lego Dimensions, and the level design wasn't bad in Sonic Dimensions, but that was more of a Lego reskin than anything original. I don't think Traveller's Tales could handle making a non-Lego Sonic game, especially since their previous two tries (3D Blast and R) didn't go so well.
>>200667051>Complaining about autistic shit in the autism generalNo
>>200667242the .01% is to specify that Eggman is still alive. If it was 100% than that would imply Eggman is dead and full peace has been restored but since he's still alive that can't be reached.
>>200667242At the very beginning of the game, when it first show the power percentage scale, Eggman starts at .01% power, and then it all goes to him at once, leaving the resistance with whatever small number you start with. The .01% of power is Eggman himself.>>200667447haha
Listen here mister, there are not okne, not two, but FIVE grammar mistakes on this paper! Let's get started fixing it.
>>200667530I love her
>>200667051the last thread got deleted because it was clear it was made only to post Rouge instead of having an actual discussion.
>>200665645Let's not forget that the team behind it had better fan-service in its little toe than all of Forces. In fact, they made Chaos a real threat, had better callbacks AND had funnier writing than anything baldy-nosehair crew ever gave us. Get rid of the Lego elements and I think there's a lot of potential.>>200667350>3D Blast and RThat was years and years ago. Likely none of the original TT devs that made those games are even part of them anymore.>>2006672420.01% are Eggman, Orbot and Cubot.
>>200668029Jon Burton is still at TT and he helped with both titles
>>2006673503D Blast was DX'ed, it's alright now.R was never that bad it's just very short.
>checked forces rip>they are have no infinite theme: instrumental versionJUST
I feel bad for Amy in this picture.
>>200665103Green Hill is unironically one of the better zones in Sonic 1 along with Star Light. The rest have bad pacing issues because Sonic Team didn't know how to balance the level design yet.
>>200668956Don't feel bad for her. That entire universe is wiped out
What would happen if more normies found about this place?
>>200668261Didn't know that. Cool. One thing is certain, though: in order to do parody right one must have a love for and an understanding of the source material on which the parody is based. That said, Lego Dimensions had that in spades. >Shadow picking up flower arrangement because he thinks that's what Maria would have wanted>Shadow having a gun, only for Knuckles to smack it out of his hands>Eggman almost calling himself Robotnik>"Get a load of this! Wait, did I say that already?"That's just to name a few. In order to make fun of something you need to understand it. They clearly do.
>>200669084>Hot Blind Rat Mobius
>>200668956I love that they included this beauty, but I'm sad that they didn't give her this winning smile. I wish they had Vector and Goose Lady in this too.
>>200669112Nothing. sthg is not r9k.
>>200669112there would be more shitposting like the /v/ sonic threads
>>200669112Comic discussion would be killed off and it would be Sonic Twitter memes 2.0, guest starring Game Grumps. /v/-tier shitposting would increase as well.The Reddit influx would bring in Cosmiccougar, Universeleopard, Astrallion, Solartiger, and Galaxyjaguar, joining our "beloved" Spacepanther.
>>200669693>Cosmiccougar, Universeleopard, Astrallion, Solartiger, and Galaxyjaguar, joining our "beloved" Spacepanther.who
>>200669112Let me show you the way
>>200667051>We literally just had a thread get deleted.This and that aren't related.
>>200669112>Dead memes like Sanic and "gotta go fast" get spammed on every thread.>"Sonic doesn't work in 3D" gets parroted with half-baked arguments.>"Haha guys, look at this funny callback they made in Boom!"It would end up destroying one of the very few places with semi-decent Sonic discussion.
>>200668053Cool, looks way better.
is there any interest in doing a "/sthg/ sings"?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmAoXyeLcSI&spfreload=10We could do fist bump
>>200669693>The Reddit influx would bring in Cosmiccougar, Universeleopard, Astrallion, Solartiger, and Galaxyjaguar, joining our "beloved" Spacepanther.kek
>>200670150Sounds stupid and gay, count me out.
>>200668956Penders making Uncle Chuck some knighted super-inventor was some weird-ass shit. I do love Penders' love for making things SUPER SERIOUS AND IMPORTANT
>>200669693>The Reddit influx would bring in Cosmiccougar, Universeleopard, Astrallion, Solartiger, and Galaxyjaguar, joining our "beloved" Spacepanther.Not counting yourself, anon?
>>200670275everything about this general is stupid and gay though
So guys, im playing Lost World for the first time.Is it me or does it feel a tad bit too slow and stiff? I can't put my finger on it, but I just dont feel like I'm sonicing at full potential. Is it something I get used to eventually?
>>200670297For the comic, serious was good.Too bad Penders is a hack writer.
Remember when Sonic cried like a little bitch?
Wanna know how to make Hedgehog dick explode?
>>200669565>>200669693Normies don't like /v/ or shitposting though
>>200670497Okay somebody needs to take those cupid arrows away from Amy before this gets out of hand.
>>200670550that's a funny joke anon
>>200670382Nah, it's one of the reasons people aren't so fond of Lost World.
>>200670550>Normies don't like /v/
>>200670382The movement in that game is seriously off.
>>200670734Why would normies like /v/? It's overly negative, racist, sexist and they hate all the popular video games.
>>200669693Maybe you should stay in Reddit with them.
G A M E O V E RS O N I C H A S B E E N F O U N D G U I L T YT I M E F O R P U N I S H M E N T-CRUSHING SPEED EXECUTION-https://youtu.be/QAd41DDNwuM [Embed]>Sonic running in a long hallway being chased by all of his Metallic counterparts. Little does he realize the Walls start to close in on him. He reaches a dead end with all the Metals chasing at him full speed. He tries attacking them with a spin dash but the Metals were too many. Grabbing his arms and legs they slam him to the ground and the walls pressurizes all of them.>When the smoke clears the survivors left see all but left of Sonic's and Metals mushed mess. A familiar theme plays https://youtu.be/l_Uo0VJihCU [Embed]
>>200670840>>200670770Okay, its nice to know it wasnt just me then. because I legit feel like some of the stuff in it could flow a lot better. It's like im getting stopped and slowed down every few seconds.
>>200667530I want to rub Nicole's ears!
>>200670910Just as you would expect from an extremely popular board that acts as a gateway
>>200670550>Normies don't like /v/ >or shitpostingLOL
>>200671119>Proof: Some damn long held gazesI need to know why Sonaze shippers are like this. What the fuck. What the hell is the reason?
>>200670550>normies don't like shitposting
>>200671486because it's extremely hard for autistic people to look someone in the eye, let alone have both parties gaze. Any kind of eye contact clearly means romantic interest
>>200671119He's right about Archie Sonic and I can see how he might think X Sonic is in love with Amy, but Sega Sonic just isn't the type of person that can hold a relationship, especially with someone that has both regal and isolated duties, and lives in another dimesion, as well.
>>200671119>Amy is not that crazy in this canonthat's one hell of a headcanon then
>>200671703This actually perfectly explains it and why they refuse to accept how other people don't see any attraction, holy shit
>>200671119>Amy isn't that crazy in Sonic X>Sonic & Sally married in the Archie comic (ignoring the fact that XYL isn't canon to the main comic)
>>200671119>Hinted mutual interest>Proof: Some damn long held gazesSo no proof then.
>>200671119Amy is a jerk in Sonic X. It made me hate her for a time.
>>200672085To be fair, Sonic and Sally did have a steady relationship in the late preboot after Ian got them back together.
>>200671119am I the only one who never got the whole shipping thing between sonic and blaze? when I played rush as a kid I never felt anything between them so it really surprised me that so many people insisted there was a romance between them when I started using the internet.
>>200672935You're not autistic, that's why
>>200673051Not as autistic at least. If you like Sonic chances are you're on the spectrum in some way.
>>200672935No, I only see them as friends.>>200673051Hey hey, I'm autistic and don't ship everything that breathes.
Any Sonouge shippers in here?
I hate reruns.
The way Amy was portrayed around Sonic X and games after that (until like Unleashed I would say), made me feel like the writers really didn't like her.
>>200672565>a jerkThat's quite the understatement anon.What made you stop hating her? Did you just stop caring as much or do you think her portrayals improved over time?I personally prefer mentally unstable X/Adventure blind rat to the much blander blind rat we have now, though I thought her aggregate personality from Lego Dimensions was alright.What kind of Amy would make you resume hating her?
How much sense does it make knowing Eggman is an SJW?
>>200673587IIRC that was meant to be translated to womanizer, not feminist.
>>200673514Amy wasn't unstable in the Adventure games. It was only after Sonic X and Heroes that the writers started making her unlikable.
>>200673676This. It was a mistranslation. The idea of Eggman trying to woo women is hilarious
>>200671119I can see how Sonic and Blaze can develop into a romantic relationship considering they have a pretty good friendship, but that proof and the rest are full of shit.
Was this ever completed?
>>200673514Adventure Amy actually isn't that bad. She starts out annoying, learns to be more independent, and helps out more in Adventure 2 getting Sonic out of jail and turning Shadow good. It's when you hit Heroes/Battle/X when she gets bad.
>>200673676>>200673757>Implying Eggman isn't drowning in pussyWhat's wrong with you?
>>200673795Well, all of them have pretty good friendships to be honest.
>>200674070Show's over then. It's why shipping is stupid
>>200673795That's problem is that most people who like this pairing do think there is actual proof and call their rival ships crackships as a result... while ironically thinking a crackship (by their own standards) is canon.
>>200663596>/sthg/ thread specifically forbidding RougeI wonder who's behind this post.
>>200674361>most people who like this pairing do think there is actual proof and call their rival ships crackships as a resultThis shit happens with every ship.
>>200675248Actually a lot of Sonic ships do have actual proof in the videogames lik
>>200673676The idea that it's a mistranslation of a womaniser is a myth; the Feminist angle is an English addition, but the Japanese bio doesn't mention anything about his relation with women.
>>200675248Of course, but it's particularly rampant with this pairing. These shippers have no idea how to just chill the fuck out and enjoy it without insisting it's status as canon for validity.
>>200670382You've been taken by the gottagofast meme cancer. I'm sorry, it's terminal.
We are 3 days into 2018. How's everyone doing? Already wish it was 2019?
>>200675796Already wish it was 2002
>>2006758432002 was 26 years ago
>>200675796I wish for assassination of the rich corrupting our Internet infustructiure and government. But aside from that peachy.
>>200670550>Normies don't like shitposting thoughTrolling is the same shit senpai
>>200675757>These shippers have no idea how to just chill the fuck out and enjoy it without insisting it's status as canon for validity.This shit happens with every ship.
Don't awake the sleepy rat
copping a feelu
>>200676013Who's denying that? The difference is almost every sonaze shipper I've ever seen insists this shit is not just canon but also likely (see: >>200671119 ).
>>200668956I don't feel bad for her.Shadow is lurking just off panel. Waiting.
>>200676220WAKE THE FUCK UP WE NEED PROJECT PLUS
>>200676532Shadow doesn't want pink rat though. Omega is clearly the one he loves.
>>200676480I'd say it was/is a likely possibility at the time.
>>200673832Bottom one is legitimately the best Robotnik I've ever seen.
>>200673757He did that in the OVA.
Who would work the best with Amy and why?
Good 3D Sonic game when?
>>200678250No one because romance is never going to happen for any of the main characters and it's stupid to debate ships every thread
>>200678021How is it a likely possibility?
>>200678343When you make your own.
>>200678343Never. It is impossible to make a good 3D Sonic game. Sonic does not work in 3D. Sonic will never work in 3D. It's time to stop trying and wasting everyone's time and money. The only way for the Sonic franchise to stay alive is through 2D Classic games akin to Mania. That is the only future for Sonic. Get over it.
>>200678343Do you mean another good 3D Sonic game, or are you trying to say that there haven't been any good 3D Sonic games?
>>200678020But Omega loves Blaze's firepower
>>200678751>impossible to make a good sonic 3D game>everyone admits the sonic and shadow stages of adventure games are good>have never had a game of just that because they fucked the controls in every title afterthats all it takes, classic sonic is fucking boring and overplayed at this point just like new super mario bros
>>200679008>>everyone admits the sonic and shadow stages of adventure games are goodhahhahahahahhahaha it's cute you think that>classic sonic is fucking boring and overplayed at this point just like new super mario broswhat is this shit taste
>>200679127When you're so much of a contrarian you actually believe your opinion is the popular one.
>>200679127But everyone has admitted they're good. Even cancer YouTube e-celebs have admitted they're good.
>>200679127>im retarded: the opinions
>>200679008Classic Sonic in 3D at least. If they focus on Classic in Mania and leave him out of 3D games I'll be happy.>mfw they said "I'm sure we'll see him again" in Forces
>>200678751>good 3D Sonic game>Adventure games get good scores when released>Generations gets high praise to this day
>>200679197>>200679217>>200679285The adventurecuck defense force has arrived!
>>200679086ah yes shadow/vanilla is my fav!he'll be a great father figure for cream and is the best fit to be vanillas husband
>Replying when you know that they aren't interested in having a discussion & are just trying to start shitFor what purpose?>>200679370Not to mention, even people like Whitehead & former SEGA/ST guys in the 90s have praised the Adventure/Modern games. There's something that could be really fun in the formulas SEGA introduced, but the problem is that they either abandon it, or they don't fix the issues said formulas have.
>>200678828I mean, of course there are good Sonic games, but honestly I don't think we have seen a truly great 3D Sonic game that is an actual successor to the genesis trio yet.Never had great writing in any game, never had great gameplay, no consistently good designs, no nothing.
>>200678343Where's Echidnapolis?Where's Haven?
>>200678531Based on theories, like majority of shipping is.There's an established friendship that the series focused on and she is one of the several friends that Sonic has that can develop into a relationship. Is that not a likely possibility?
>>200679632>never had great writingWhat are Adventure 1 & 2, Unleashed, and the Storybook series?>never had great gameplaySonic Generations has great gameplay. Unlike Forces, Classic Sonic isn't really that bad to control, even if he doesn't play like the Genesis games. People also like Sonic and Shadow's levels in the Adventure games, as well as Tails' and Gamma's levels in Adventure 1.>no consistently good designsAll the characters, barring Sonic, have had consistent designs since 2010.
>>200679197>>200679217>>200679285>>200679008>everyone admits the sonic and shadow stages of adventure games are good>ugly graphics>HORRIFIC camera>way too linear>bad level design>half-assed physics>floaty controls>the camera is shit >Adventure is too open world to enjoyyeah they're so good
>>200680039>im bad at a good game so that makes it bad
>>200680039I'm sorry your personal problems make you bad at video games.
>>200680108>>200680206>everyone who doesn't like the same video games as me is just bad at the game!! Superman 64 was good you clearly never beat the first game and Sonic 06 was amazing you just don't understand
Reminder, open world or sandbox style Sonic would be terrible no matter what the physics were.
200680262>I cant actually beat something everyone else who can clearly enjoys>my minority opinions matter because im loud and obnoxiousK no more (you)s youve bored me
>>200680262>200680262>strawmanning>comparing games that some people like to games no people like
>Collect a total of 100,000 Rings
It's happening again:>No new games to discuss and theorize about>No comics>No events>The only thing keeping this general alive is shitposting and the overuse of shitty repetive bait
>>200680565love can keep this gen comfy and alive~
>>200678250>Who would work the best with Amy and why?Depends on the canon in question.>BoomSonic actually works here as a bf. Doubt they'll ever go there.>Current 3D gamesLiterally nobody. If anything they've done a good job making her seem younger as of recently. She's fine just being the annoying girl.>Adventure eraShe was actually more mature here, and combined with her lust for Sonic could have made a decent gf. Too bad he wanted absolutely nothing to do with her back then.>ArchieSonic is taken here, and even in the post SGW issues I actually think she would do better as a match for Knux. They have a really interesting banter and dynamic.
>>200679991Holy shit so much shit opinion in one post. The writing in the adventure games is not good you mongeloid.
>>200679991>What are Adventure 1 & 2, Unleashedlmao?>Sonic Generations has great gameplay.Good sure, not great. And I was talking more about actually converting the classic gameplay to 3D, like having physics based controls, and encouraged exploration. More like a TRUE Sonic game and less like a running/racing simulator.>People also like Sonic and Shadow's levels in the Adventure gamesAgain good/decent, sure. Not great.
>>200680892Adventure 2 has an amazing story.
>>200680684I agree with all of this.You left out classic tho
The Adventure games are AMAZING. SO MUCH BETTER THAN BOOST AND CLASSIC GAMES. Who agrees?!
>>200680892>lmaoWhat's wrong with the writing in the Adventure games and Unleashed?>Good, sure. Not greatWhat are you using to define good and great?
>>200680892>More like a TRUE Sonic gameWell done, I think you've given me a fucking tumour.
>>200681034>Adventure 2 has an amazing story.
>>200679886>Is that not a likely possibility?There isn't any proof that Sonic and Blaze even like each other, people read way too in to this relationship. Sonic and Blaze are friends but anything you interpret as romantic was probably not put there intentionally.I have no strong feelings towards the pairing itself but saying it's a likely possibility is just not realistic. Sonic will never be in a relationship, but if he was ever going to be in one it's obvious he would end up with Amy. There is no way the writers wouldn't do that after the shitstorm that happened after 06 (which is exactly when they started making Sonic and Amy have a nicer relationship). I don't care about Sonamy either but it's just common sense. So no, it's not a likely possibility that Sonaze would ever be canon.
>200681065No one's falling for your falseflagging.
>>200681168I legit think it is better than the recent Star Wars films.
>>200681245That's not exactly a high bar
200681065>correct opinions written in a redditor styleGUYS, Ive spend SOO much time playing sonic mania!I cant believe sega doesnt just make more of these hahah, oh sorry I have to pick up my wife from her date be back in a bit, Ill pick up some vape juice for you /b/ros as well heh
>>200679632Well, the games very rarely tried to be a successor to the Genesis games & have mostly tried to be its own thing (although I did enjoy parts of Generations over 1), but I see what you mean. There's been good things in 3D Sonic games, but SEGA never really capitalized on said good things, whereas in the Genesis games, the games formula improved with each new title. Then again, that's what happens when you make changes to Sonic Team every fucking game.Anyways, the Adventure games have a shit ton of problems (SA2 Sonic/Shadow stages being more linear than the previous game, the multiple playstyles that you have to beat in order to beat the game, the awful sound mixing in SA2, the Treasure Hunting stages in SA2 being shit compared to SA1, Big's stages, etc.), but the SA1 Sonic stages did do a lot right & I really feel like Sonic Team missed the boat on not focusing on that style more in SA1. I enjoyed the Treasure Hunting & Mech Shooting stages, but man, I play some of the Sonic levels & I wish we got more of that for characters like Amy instead of her slow ass gameplay.>>200680684The hug she gave Knuckles at the end of Shattered was cute as hell. Looked like a little sister hugging her big bro.>>200680565It's not even subtle bait this time. Shame because I would like to talk about Sonic & the good & bad choices they've made in the 3D era, but some gotta ruin it with shitposting.>>200680892Well, GHPAnon is making something for us to make our own 3D Sonic with physics based around the Genesis & Adventure games. I think that might be something to look forward too.>running/racing simulatorI know Whitehead said he considers the Boost games to be "racing/platforming" hybrid given the focus on Drifting in games like Unleashed/Colors/Generations & I'd say that's a good way to call it. I think it's fine when it's been shown that the gameplay style can have great stages (Modern Seaside Hill), but again, SEGA doesn't use it to its full potential.
>>200681097Well all that cancer in you finally got somewhere then.
>>200681284These films made over a billion dollars.
>>200681065I like them better than boost but not better than classic.This need to be so combative about fucking preferences is weird and dumb.
Sonic Mania sucks. Where is Sonic Adventure 3?!?! And I mean the REAL Sonic Adventure 3. Not Sanic 06 or Sanic Unleashed or Sanic Heroes.
>Lego Dimensions makes fun of how often the Death Egg Robot gets used>Forces uses them completely unironicallyI want Travelers Tales to make a 3D Sonic. They know the series well enough to poke fun at it, showing that they have the passion to make something great.
The designs in the Adventure era are just as good as the classic games.
>>200681719Ewww Sonic 3D Flickies IslandEwww Sonic R
>>200681719They did twice, both times were garbage.
>>200681760Lumina, Void, and Illumina are alright, but they look like Nights characters. And Black Doom and the Black Arms are just generic aliens.
>>200681824>more detail = bad
>one anti-adventurefag got so triggered he keeps posting bait over and over when he doesnt get (you)soh man hes going to singlehandedly kill this general, ugh no wonder he has no friends
>>200681818>>200681875There is nothing wrong with 3D Blast or R.
>>200681760sometimes I have more fun with Sonic Adventure than Sonic 3&K. I hope this doesn't mean I'm retarded
>>200681557Most of the time it's just people falseflagging to start shit.All 3 major Sonic gameplay styles have their weaknesses (the Genesis games aren't flawless & the Boost/Adventure for damn sure have their flaws), but all 3 bring something to the table that I fucking loved. The momentum based physics of the Genesis games, the full 3D of the Adventure games & hell, I even like the idea of the Boost mechanic & have had a ton of fun out of Generations. If there was some way to combine momentum based physics with something like Boost with level design that encourages exploration and no fucking automation overkill I'd be a happy camper.But the upcoming devkit should do great in that regard.>>200681719Funny enough, their loops were non-scripted.
>>200681898The Adventure series had more characters to begin with and produced more major titles in that same timeframe.
>>200681935If you're talking about me then I have plenty of friends
>>200681964Well both control like ass.
I have warmed up to infinite's Gangnam Style boss theme.
>>200681986Well, 3&K had some stages that dragged Marble Garden, so I can't fault that.>>200682171This general doesn't count as friends, anon.
>>200682171dont lie to me weakling
>>200681898Witchcart and all the American made characters look too cartoony for Sonic. They fit in as badly as the Deadly Six.
>>200682091>Genesis games aren't flawlessName one flaw besides being too short, not having a save system until Sonic 3, Tails not being able to fly in Sonic 2, etc. since those are hardware limitations, not actual criticisms. Do not include Sonic 1 since that was first game of its kind.
>>200682440>what if Sally
>>200682440why do autists always seem to draw in crayon or markers?
>>200682451From my most played of the tetralogy:Metropolis ZoneSky Chase ZoneChemical Plant Zone's constant use of automation
>>200682451Hill Top Zone's music is really irritating.
>>200682451>Sonic 1, 2, 3, &K were all on the same console>blame hardware limitations for legitimate criticisms
>>200682451Sonic CD had an overuse of bumpers and confusing level design.
>>200682451Well the level design in Sonic CD was pretty damn bad in some stages it came out on a Genesis add-on, shut up, Sonic 3&K had stages that was a complete bore like Marble Garden & Sandopolis.
>>200681210It makes sense that out of the characters in the franchise that Blaze would theoretically be one of the few characters that can be paired and has a better chance of a relationship than majority of the characters because they have a good friendship. If they put Sonic in a relationship, It's obvious that the writers would first go to Amy. But ultimately, there's no proof with majority of the relationships in this franchise, especially the games. And you're right, if they were any implications they're not intentional. >anything you interpret as romantic I don't interpret any interaction in the series as romantic.
>>200682321You're waifu is dead.DEAD!
>>200682440I'm still trying to wrap my head around the idea that this was made by a 46 year old.
>He'd rather have Adventure's wonky controls, bad physics and horrendous camera or Modern Sonic's narrow running hallways over a real 3D Sonic game that takes advantage of Sonic's all core designs with great physics based controls, beautifully designed big but not too vague levels that encourage exploration with numerous collectables and unloackable powers and charactersWell I don't actually expect anything from Sega, but it's nice to dream.
>>200682451Unfair moments being easily crushedUnfair enemy placements in Oil Ocean ZoneSonic 2's special stages are really difficultFinal boss in Sonic 2 decides to take a spike in difficultyEnemy and hazard placement in Metropolis zone
>>200682697I don't see a problem with any of these>Chemical Plant Zone's constant use of automationyour precious Adventure and Boost games do the same thing but those get a pass somehow. gee.>>200682704that's subjective and not real criticism >>200682749I meant to say advances in game development weren't there yet when Sonic 2 was still being developed. Sorry.>>200682785Sonic CD isn't part of the Classic Trilogy and even if it was that's subjective and not real criticism >>200682796that's subjective and not real criticism
>>200683174That's subjective and not real criticism.
>>200683174I really like Chemical Plant zone and I don't mind Metropolis zone.I also think the Advance series is on the same overall quality level as the classics.
classic sonic is honestly a boring design
How bad is my taste?Sonic 3KSonic 2Sonic AdvanceSonic Advance 3Sonic CDSonic Advance 2Sonic 4 (EP1+2)Sonic 1
>>200683430Is this a ranking or just a list of games you like?
>>200683120>Unfair moments being easily crushedget better at the game>Unfair enemy placements in Oil Ocean Zoneget better at the game>Sonic 2's special stages are really difficultget better at the game>Final boss in Sonic 2 decides to take a spike in difficultywould you rather have a piss easy unsatisfying final boss like every 3D Sonic game ever?>Enemy and hazard placement in Metropolis zoneget better at the game>>200683303>I also think the Advance series is on the same overall quality level as the classics.It's really not. The graphics are shit. The music is shit. The physics are messed up. Sonic is way too heavy. They ruined Tails' flying. Amy is useless in the game because of her hammer and her playstyle goes against everything the classic games are about. SO HIGH QUALITY>>200683430That's not bad but I would replace Sonic 4 with Sonic Mania and remove the Advance games
>>200683509Ranking of the classic games, if I threw in the game gear titles they would all be below Sonic 1.
>>200683430>Sonic 4 above anythingKill yourself. I'm glad that Advance 3 is where it is though.
>>200683561Get better at the Advance games.
>>200683695They're bad. There's a reason Sega doesn't acknowledge them.
>>200683561Maybe Amy wouldn't be so bad if you just trygetting gud
>>200683760Because THQ owns the distribution rights?
>>200681964Yes there is, especially with 3D Blast.
>>200683760They have seen rerelease in Japan.Also the songs were remade in the Olympic Games series.
>>200683764I'm not going to play in a way that GOES AGAINST THE GAME'S LEVEL DESIGN. I can't preserve my momentum as Amy if I have to stop dead to use the hammer.
>>200683760SEGA didn't acknowledge Sonic CD for the longest time, does that mean it was a bad game?
>>200683108Adventure actually did have good controls and physics, it was the level design that didn't let the player use them to their full potential.
>>200683885get better at the game
>>200683806Yeah, THQ owns the rights to distribute the games & they went under back in 2012.>>200683351I like it for the same reasons I like the Moden design. They're a combination of cute & cool, have a look that fits their personality & has a silhouette that stands out.
>>200683852Okay but come back when they make Sonic Advance 5 or whatever.>>200683935>bringing back Metal Sonic constantlyyeah they definitely didn't acknowledge Sonic CD for so long >>200683980get better taste
>>200684002why do people like this seem to be unable to stay in the lines, color in the same direction, color evenly, color with crayons, etc.? I don't get it
>>200683885Except most enemies are placed during the slower platforming segments, where you're supposed to take it slow. So her hammer killing the momentum is a moot point.
>>200684037It took SEGA 20 years for another Genesis-style game to come out & Whitehead has acknowledged that he wouldn't mind using Modern characters at all in future 2D games. So we could see an Advance 5 someday
>>200682660Because they're probably NEETs that can't afford anything that isn't Crayola and Sharpie. That was my excuse until I went digital
Funny how classicfags always tell you to git gud when people have problems with the classic games but when presented with similar problems in other titles they can't take git gud as a logical answer. Practice what you preach you hypocritical faggots
>>200684354One person being a fag doesn't equal an entire section of the fanbase, anon.>>200684356Advance 4, sorry. Honestly, I think an Advance game done by the Mania team could be fucking awesome.
>>200684242Good lord she's broken her own leg
>>200682820>It makes sense>TheoreticallyYou said it's a "likely possibility", that implies it has a good chance chance of happening. Frankly it has absolutely no chance even in a scenario where Sonic is written to be in a relationship. Whether or not you think they would make a good couple and could eventually end up romantically involved is pure subjectiveness, but to say it's "likely" is flat out wrong.Not to say you can't like it or ship it but it has no actual substance in the games, which was the original point of the post you replied to when people insisted it could be canon or likely, which it isn't.
>>200684286Stealth also sees Sonic Adventure as a great attempt to make Sonic in 3D.So I doubt even he has a distaste for the modern designs.
>>200673587Men. Women. All humans are equally inferior to Eggman.
>>200684242I'd be more worried about that fucking mess of bones and cartilage you call a leg, putting the boot on is only going to exacerbate things, you fucking maverick.
>>200684283it doesn't matter what the enemy placement is how she's supposed to be useful if the rest of the game is terrible>>200684286A lot of the modern characters don't belong in the classic games, that's the thing. Boost does not belong in these games. The homing attack does not belong in these games. Amy and her hammer do not belong in these games. Silver and his telekinesis does not belong in these games. Shadow and his ability to ruin every game he's in with his edginess and awful reputation doesn't belong in these games. Genesis-style games should Genesis characters ONLY.>>200684354If you're talking about me then if criticism is subjective, it's not real criticism. Saying the Hill Top Zone's music is bad as a reason the Original Trilogy is flawed is retarded.
>>200684354Not all Classicfags are like that.>>200684460Advances' sprites are some of my favourites, so seeing them in HD would be fantastic. I can but hope for it to happen someday.
>>200684037>acknowledge Cream the Rabbit constantly>introduction to the boost mechanicYeah they definitely don't acknowledge the Advance games anymore.
>>200684460I'm just exposing the hypocrisy of using git gud as a rebuttal and how it's a blanket statement to win any argument without any effort. It's the "works on my machine" of gaming.
>>200684773>>acknowledge Cream the Rabbit constantlywhen did she last show up? Generations? 6 years ago? WOW THAT'S PRACTICLY EVERYDAY
>>200684593And Taxman talked about how he loved the Adventure games & some of the later titles (even talked about how the more recent Modern games inspired the special stages in Mania). I can definitely imagine them doing a Modern 2D game someday.>>200684741Same. One can only hope I suppose.
>>200682912Hmph, least my waifu EXISTED!
>>200684701The Advance series is blamed for problems that existed back during the classic games. Sure it makes several of them worse, but they were problems back then.
>>200684868They acknowledged her in Runners.
>>200684697Thanks, I'll have to listen to this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWoZ927YZOw&list=PLXRkwGvXTai7sicRNeluUmm4xL-XcD77V&index=26
>>200684970And again, Advance 2 introduced what would later be used in Rush/Rush Adventure in the Boost mechanic, which was just used in Sonic Forces.
>>200684926Also it is telling that Stealth mentioned his favourite mainline post-classic game was Sonic Adventure.I wouldn't be surprised if he loved an Advance installment MORE than that.
>>200684773Her debut was actually supposed to be in Sonic Heroes. She was only added to Sonic Advance 2 because the devs didn't want to have Heroes be composed of so many brand new/previously forgotten characters. That's also why Shadow was in Sonic Battle. If these guys weren't introduced/reintroduced in those prior games, over half the cast in Heroes would have been new
>>200685176Sonic Battle was supposed to come out after Heroes. It referenced Omega, who debuted in that game.
>>200681034>>200681168Adventure 2's story is over-the-top, confusing, campy, edgy, and partially plagiarizes the finale of Jojo Part 3.And I fuckin' love it!
>>200684970What's your point? Runners had everyone in it. It was made to have as many characters as possible so people would spend their shekels unlocking everything>>200685065So what?
>>200685409So if they're using something that was introduced in an Advance game, that's them acknowledging Advance.
>>200685409>It was made to have as many characters as possibleSo that's why it had Marine...
>>200685951Well no shit anon, you really think they cared about Marine? Sticks is the exact same design just older.
>>200686052It didn't have Marine
>>200684701Your initial criticism was that Amy's gameplay went against the games core design, and when I explained why that's nor really a problem you flip the chess board and say: "That doesn't matter, the game's shit!"GG
>>200686141ah, you got me anon. I've never played Runners so I just assumed she was an unlockable
>>200685530Awful physics glitches are a horrible camera was introduced in Sonic Adventure, both of which have been present in every 3D Sonic game since then. Does that mean they're acknowledging Adventure?
>>200686264Glitches are gameplay mechanics, now?
>>200686247Some fanart tricked me into believing she was in it>>200686356>what is wavedashing
>>200686230But it really doesn't matter if one part of the gameplay is "right" when the rest of it is awful. If Sonic Adventure was 99% fishing levels as Big but had a mini game where you play a single level as Sonic and it's "good", does that mean the game is good? No>>200686356Might as well be since you can't play through these games without experiencing glitches. it's part of the game. It's part of the gameplay.
>>200686356They have always been gameplay mechanics. One man's glitch is another man's speedrun tactic
>>200686386>>200686247Wait I meant it tricked me like years ago, so I was very disappointed when she wasn't in the actual game I thought I'd missed some event or something but I hadn't
>>200686141Didn't Iizuka say Marine was pretty much retired? Kinda sad, I thought she was cute.
>>200686580>NNNOOOOOO FUTUR PRANNUS
Would the Mania team working on a Modern Sonic game make the classicfags calm down?
>>200686797No because the only way for Sonic to work is in 2D. Modern Sonic SHOULD NOT ever be in a 2D Genesis-styled game. Boost makes no sense in 2D. Homing attack makes no sense in 2D. So Sonic can't have these two things. Why do we need Modern Sonic then? Just make it a class, Genesis-styled game with CLASSIC SONIC.
>>200686495It doesn't matter because that's a different arguement all together. I wasn't arguing about whether or not the Advance series as a whole were good, just that Amy's gameplay was well integrated into the game itself. If you want to talk about the games in their entirety, then please explain all the problems they do have and actually elaborate rathe than call the different aspects of it shit.
Cream makes for a good little sister dynamic for Amy
>>200686936So then Sonic Advance 1 and 3 are classic games then.
>>200686797I'd love to see it & they'd probably love it, too.>>200686974Cute mutants
>>200686971>If you want to talk about the games in their entirety, then please explain all the problems>all the problemsthat would take me hours to explain because they're's that much wrong with them
>>200687020No because the level design and physics aren't the same as those of the classic games. Just because it has Modern Sonic in it doesn't mean it's a classic game.
>>200687080I've talked about the flaws of the Advance games before, so it's not like it's that hard. Go on, mate.
>>200687264I'm not wasting my time on this. You're welcome to look up the numerous reviews that agree with me
>>200687040I want the Mania team to basically be pushed by SEGA to make a bigger budget 2D Sonic game with the presentation you would expect from a modern downloadable title.The Mania team should be allowed and encouraged to also tell a more involved story.
>>200687221So I guess the Game Gear/Master System titles aren't classic titles either then.
Remember when there was no such thing as classic sonic and modern sonic because Sonic was just Sonic and the mere thought of having multiple Sonics was nothing but just fanfiction trash?
>>200687401Nah anon, it's not that hard. Go ahead. Surely, you can point out the issues.>>200687409That would actually be fucking awesome. Again, I doubt they'd have an issue with it themselves, do I'd like to see that in Mania 2.
>>200687221Quit whining, the physics and level design of Advance 1 are close enough to the Classic games. And outside of Boost Mode Advance 2 is pretty similar as well.Advance 3 still has similar physics depending on which team you have.
>>200681818>>200681875That was decades ago. I'm talking current TT.>>200681964Jeez. I wouldn't go THAT far.
>>200687546No, because some fans kicked up a fuss over the Sonic redesign from the very beginning. And even during the Classic days, you had US Classic Sonic & Japan's Classic Sonic & DiC's Sonic designs.
>>200687481Is Sonic Spinball a classic game? Is Sonic R a classic game? Is Sonic Schoolhouse a classic game? Just because a game has Classic Sonic in it doesn't mean it's a classic Sonic game
>>200687552Nearly all the reviews I find online praise Advance 1 as being the TRUE Sonic 4 (before Mania was released). I mean having really high sales and a better Metacritic score than Mania means something right?And its sequels were pretty much hotly contested as to which was better.
>>200687697Is Sonic 1 a classic game? It has many factors that make Sonic control differently from the future titles.
>>200687080Then just list of the core problems, if they are SO MANY, it shouldn't be that hard to explain a few that matter.
>>200687546This shit all started with Sonic 4, and it only got worse with Generations.I wish classic Sonic just fucking stayed gone. Generations was mostly just 2D anyway, so it's not like we even needed classic Sonic for that game to work.
>>200687667They were still considered one entity though. None of this "Unlimited amount of Sonics from different timelines so you can pick and choose the ones you like" autistic bullshit. Sega took a problem and made it a thousand times worse in their attempt to "unite the fanbase".
>>200688151And Lost World and Heroes look like Classic games.
Classic Hyper Sonic versus Modern Sonic (base form). Who wins?
>>200687552>Nah anon, it's not that hard. Go ahead. Surely, you can point out the issues.I really don't want to waste my time on this but basically the level design is shit. There are way too many bottomless pits. The team mechanic in SA3 is obnoxious and overcomplicates the gameplay and furthers the game from the classic trilogy. The enemy placement is garbage. The boss fights are tedious. The physics are all wrong. If you actually played these and the classics you'll agree with me. Everyone is too heavy. Tails' flying is feels awkward and gimped. There's so much more but I encourage you to look up reviews yourself.>>200687782Okay sure, if Sonic Advance is Sonic 4 then Adventurefags have to accept Sonic 2006 is Sonic Adventure 3 and Sonic Forces is Sonic Generations 2. Do you see how absolutely retarded that is?>>200687623Maybe you should actually play the games for once and see that's not true at all.>>200687931The physics are mostly the same as Sonic 2-K so yes, it's a classic sonic game.
>>200688151>I wish classic Sonic just fucking stayed gone. Generations was mostly just 2D anyway, so it's not like we even needed classic Sonic for that game to work.Yeah, fuck off please. Classic Sonic is saving the franchise. For the first time in 23 years Sonic wasn't a fucking joke and you have the audacity to want him gone. Kill yourself
>>200688187>Sega took a problem and made it a thousand times worse in their attempt to "unite the fanbase".so Sega was just being Sega?
>>200688314If Sonic 06 or Sonic Forces were as well made as Sonic Advance then YES people would have treated them as Sonic Adventure 3 and Generations 2 respectively.If 06 was as good as Advance there probably wouldn't even be a Boost formula as 06 would have been considered a success.
>>200685284>plagiarizes JoJo Part 3howso
>>200688534>as well made as Sonic Advance thenBut Sonic Advance isn't well made. Take your nostalgia glasses off, champ.
>>200688314I have played the Advance games several times as well as the classics. Aside from the dumbass ring acceleration and boost mode, no one except a gigantic nerd would notice the difference in control aside
>>200688645It LITERALLY has a higher metacritic score than Mania and even if you look up indie/user reviews people constantly praise it.
>>200688676I noticed the difference and I'm not a nerd.
>>200688676...from some new moves added to your arsenal.
>>200688437Classic Sonic is just a fucking skin change that causes confusion and fighting amongst the fans, there was no need to bring him back as his own fucking character.Sonic 4 would not have magically been better if Sonic had shorter spines and black eyes. Sonic Mania would not have been made worse if Sonic had longer quills and green eyes. They both appeared in Generations, that game was good, they both appeared in Forces, that game was bad.You're just missing the point, likely on purpose. The point being that there is no fucking reason for there to be a distinction between classic Sonic and Modern Sonic. Sonic just needs to be Sonic.
>>200688314>if Sonic Advance is Sonic 4 then Adventurefags have to accept Sonic 2006 is Sonic Adventure 3 and Sonic Forces is Sonic Generations 2people already do that
>>200686386>Unironically thinks wavedashing is a glitch wew
>>200688751Okay so what? Sonic Adventure 2's score is better as well but that clearly doesn't mean shit since that game was fucking ass. Sonic and the Secret Rings got a better score than
>>200688645Yes it was.
>>200688764Gimmie your lunch money, nerd
I have spent far too much of the last few days figuring out how to get stuff like this into Forces, sthg.
>>200688914>review scores only matter when it helps my argument and vice versa
>>200688979Whatever gets you into modding, Anon! Keep it up!
>>200688979All worth it. Nice Bump, anon!>>200689032Well duh. Have you never seen these type of arguments before? It's shitflinging, saying shit only to walk it back when people use it against them & in the end, the only thing that comes out of it is a wasted thread.
Iizuka is such a fucking hack. Why can't he just retire already?
>>200688570Chaos Control = Za Warudo?
>>200689238He has the most seniority.
>>200689238The only thing he's done in the last few years was supervise Mania. He's likely slowing down, anyways.
>>200689238because then Nakamura would be in charge and his biggest contributions were 06 and Forces.
>>200688875>Sonic Mania would not have been made worse if Sonic had longer quills and green eyes.No. Modern Sonic's design doesn't fit in with the classic environments. Sonic Mania wasn't just about good level design and gameplay. It was about making the game feel like a REAL classic Sonic game. If Modern Sonic was in the game, I have a constant reminder of 23 years worth of shitty games being flashed before me in what should be a perfect, classic, experience. >>200689032Stop getting assblasted over facts
>>200689639>nonexistantjust like my taste in games as an Adventurefag
>>200689442Design doesn't make gameplay. You are basically admitting Classic is only liked because of scenery and appearance.
>>200689442Oh yeah sure Sonic's great legacy let's not forgetSonic 1Sonic 3D BlastSonic SpinballSonic RAll of the Game Gear gamesSonic SchoolhouseI am sure that there isn't a single post classic title that is better than any of these games.
>>200689639Yeah, pretty much.
>>200688979Hedgehog as a base?
>>200689723Well the games aren't that complex to be rewarding through gameplay alone.
Does pic related describe you, /sthg/?
I came to these generals a few days ago because it seemed like people were just fawning over Amy and their forces OCs. Over the last few days it seems to have shifted from archie fags vs game fags, fighting over the cartoons, and most of all just classic purists and 3D fans.I feel like the only sensible thing to do is extract myself from this autismal tantrum fest for a few days, adios amigos.
>>200689723Then he's being completely accurate. Sonic was always about looking and sounding cool, gameplay came second. That's why the Adventure games aged so badly. The focus was looking cool...for 1998 and 2001 which looks like dogshit now.
>>200690150all generals are shit, i don't know what'd you expect
>>200689994Of course not. As mere mortals, we cannot reach the echelon of Our Lord and Savior, the true creator and father of Knuckles the Echidna, and the savior of the Sonic series, Ken Penders.
>>200689747>Sonic 1I'd rather play this then Sonic Advnetures or Forces or whatever shitty 3D games game games game out between >Sonic 3D BlastThere's nothing wrong with it and I honestly enjoy it more all of the 3D games>Sonic SpinballThat's not really a Sonic game>All of the Game Gear gamesWell to be honest I haven't played these so you could be right but I doubt it>Sonic SchoolhouseCome the fuck on you know this doesn't count>>200689723No, I said it wasn't JUST about the gameplay. It's about the whole package. If Sonic Mania had the same levels but shitty graphics and ear rape music, it would be bad. Likewise if it had beuaitufl graphics and an amazing soundtrack but shit ass level design and physics (like Forces) it would be a shit game
I don't know why Classicucks are cheering for being able to pay for romhacks from Sega when they could just get that shit online for free. Is it just for a pure status symbol?
>>200690379It's not a romhack you fucking faggot
>>200690150In other words, you see what happens when shitposters spam the same tired bait that's been posted here a thousand times & people some of whom are new keep taking it.
>>200690150Do you have to announce yourself leaving like an attention whore? You're anonymous. We don't know who the fuck you are. Who cares if you leave?
>>200690536>when someone says they don't like my favorite game it's bait!
>>200690443It plays like one. The Mania experience everyone is gushing over can be delivered by your everyday romhack. Why waste money for something you can get free right now?
heygo to ms paint and draw eggman from memorykinda like the other time but with eggman
>2 hours of classicfagging
>>200690305>we cannot reach the echelon*echidnalon
>>200690704Okay sure. Find me one rom hack that does EVERYTHING Mania does. It shouldn't be hard. Your everyday romhack can do it. Am I right?
>>200690150Finally, no Bing Bing Wahoo!
>>200690620I never saw someone spending 500 posts screeching about how 3&K isn't great, so I don't know why you're assuming that anon.
Watch all the classicfags turn against Whitehead once he announces Mania 2 will go in another direction instead of just jerking the classic titles off
>Make fun of Adventurefags for bitching about not getting SA3 and more Adventure-like games.>Meanwhile, Classicucks threw a decade long tantrum until Sega eventually cracked under pressure from their blaring screeches and gave them exactly what they wanted.And yet Adventurefags need to stop whining about Adventure because that's not how you get catered to.
>>200691062the adventurefags think it's bait since no one could possibly ever be serious about criticiszing their precious childhood memories
>>200691217Except Sonic Adventure is objectively shit and Sonic 3&Knuckles was objectively one of the best 2D platformers of all time and deserved a proper sequel. But whatever.
Does anyone want to talk about how much they love this franchise?
>Beat Forces>Final boss was actually Eggman for once in a 3D gameThat's rare.
>>200691217Wow it's almost like this fanbase is fucking horrible and can't realize each side does the exact same thing so claiming superiority is dumb
>>200691394Because the characters have great designs, some of the games are enjoyable and most of the accompanying media, ie comics and music, are also great.I wish the games were generally better.
>>200691356>Sonic 3&Knuckles was objectively one of the best 2D platformers of all time and deserved a proper sequel.So they gave it Sonic 4.
>>200691116He can just make Advance 4 which would mean it is just a classic game with grind rails thrown in.
>>200691116Most classicfags just want momentum-based physics & exploration encouraged level design. The type of fags that care about Sonic's eye color are thankfully a minority these days & would probably not care if Mania 2 was centered the Modern characters, so long as the game is good.>>200691223Well, as someone who grew up on the Adventure games, I fully recognize the faults of those titles & would have no issue discussing them. The problem is, many would rather fling shit & screech about the mere existence of those titles rather than have a respectful, depthful discusion about how those things could be improved & what mistakes were made.The making of games (not just Sonic but SEGA in general) during the Dreamcast era fascinates me & I would love to talk about the why of SEGA's decision making, so I for one, welcome actual criticism of the Adventure titles, because this general has cranked out ideas on how concepts from Sonic games can be done better when people talk about the flaws of these games & how they could've been done better, rather than just low level shitposting.
>>200689238Iizuka hasn't actually been relevant since Shadow. Producers have little real power, the people you want to blame are the director and lead game designer, especially if they're the same person. So in other words, Kishimoto.
>>200691709Do most classicfags like the Advance games? Since the Advance series definitely had exploration and momentum-based physics.
>>200691394I only love the Classic part of the franchise.
>>200691567I'm actually looking forward to the new comics. Though I do wonder if they rehash the old plotlines (so Adventure, Adventure 2 ect.) like they did with Archie.
>>200691830So you basically weren't a fan until Mania.
>>200691431>Final boss was actually Eggman for once in a 3D game>That's rare.Are you fucking with me?
Looking at people being fond of Sonic gives me the warm fuzzies.>>200691567Any examples of some of your favorites?>>200691830That's cool, what specifically do you like about it?>>200691832I'm curious about the comics myself. I only read a little bit of Fleetway and bits and pieces of whatever that was on Mega Collection for Archie.
>>200691431>Sonic Colors - Eggman>Sonic Lost World - Eggman>Sonic Forces - Eggman>Beat Forces>Final boss was actually Eggman for once in a 3D gamewhat did he mean by this
>>200691431No, it really is not. Colors (which isn't a 3D game, but I digress), lost world and forces have nearly identical final bosses, all of which are Eggman.
>>200691431>Colors (Wii)>Generations>Lost WorldThat's not rare at all. That's been the status quo for 7 years.
>>200691675You know damn well they only named it Sonic 4 for attention. It's not a real sequel.
>>200692082The final boss for SA1, SA2, Heroes, Shadow, 06, Unleashed, and Generations was someone who overshadowed or backstabbed Eggman
>>200692221So then it evens out
>>200691807It's divided really. On one hand, many appreciate how it tries to take the Classic gameplay style & advance it with Modern characters, different sprites, etc.But, others can't look past the instances of deathpit overuse, the shoddy level design in some of the later stages in Advance 2 & 3, etc.It's a very "your mileage may vary" series for a lot of classicfags. From what I've seen at least.
>>200691881No, I just passed the 23 year long gap between good games by replaying the classic games + romhacks >>200692074>That's cool, what specifically do you like about it?Everything
>>200691995Well in Adventure Eggman was using Chaos, who turned on him and Chaos was the final bossAdventure 2 Eggman had to team up with Sonic or everyone would have diedHeroes Eggman was usurped by Metal and Metal was the final boss06' everyone was played by MephilisShadow had Black Doom as the final antagonistThat's quite a lot of games where Eggman wasn't the final boss
>>200692221>GenerationsBut the Time Eater was controlled by the Eggmen.From Colors, Generations, Lost World & now Forces, Egghead's been the last boss.
>>200692313There's aso Sonic and the Black Knight where he wasn't the boss at all if you wanna count that one.
>>200692074>Any examples of some of your favorites?I have a lot of fun playing Adventure 2 despite its many flaws. I always enjoy playing through Final Rush, might be my favourite level in the franchise.I enjoyed the post-reboot Archie comics, especially the Champions arc. I've never dived in to the older stuff because I'm not sure I could deal with all the dumb Penders shit, even if it does get cleaned up by Ian.Also I love vocal themes and wish character themes would come back. The avatar stuff in Forces was a nice surprise for me.I just really like the cast's designs in general but the associated art styles really highlight them more. I love the weird noodle arm Adventure stuff but the Riders style is my personal favourite.
>>200692221>GenerationsOh, you're right. That wasn't Eggman. That was EggMEN. Totally different.
>>200692074>I'm curious about the comics myself. I only read a little bit of Fleetway and bits and pieces of whatever that was on Mega Collection for Archie.Archie has been the be all end all of Sonic comics for a long time and IDW have hired the same writer that handled the comics for quite a few years now, so we're probably gonna see some things from those being incorporated into the new comics. Hopefully one of those things is Team Dark's relationship.
>>200692671Eggman, Classic Eggman and Eggman Nega team up when?
>>200692215>it's not a real sequelYou can't just pick and choose what is and isn't anon. In fact Sonic 4 is closer to a classic game than 06 is to an Adventure game just for the fact it's actually called Sonic 4. Imagine if 06 was literally called Adventure 3 and a adventurefag was arguing against it, that's you right now.
>>200688314>There are way too many bottomless pits.Aside from like one or two levels, they aren't a problem.>The team mechanic in SA3 is obnoxious and overcomplicates the gameplay and furthers the game from the classic trilogy.It's basically the same thing as having Tails as a companion in 2, 3&K and Mania or the & Knuckles mode in Mania. If you hate the mechanic so much, just use the Sonic and Tails team up.>The physics are all wrong. If you actually played these and the classics you'll agree with me. Everyone is too heavy.It feels heavier, but I don't see the problem
>>200692846add the Robotniks from AoSTH/SatAM and Boom Eggman and I'm in
>>200692659>I enjoyed the post-reboot Archie comicsThe only things pre-reboot that I enjoyed about those was when they adapted the Adventure games. I hope that gets picked up with the new comics as well. I don't know why but I really enjoy the adaptations of those two games. Even the Sonic X one.
>>200692846Why would Eggman team up with Eggman Nega? Nega trapped him in a card in Rivals. He was already fighting against him in Rivals 2 via Metal Sonic.
>>200692959Ha I didn't even think of those. Good call.
>>200692979Would they even re-do an adaptation? Have they done that before?I mean, I'd take another Adventure adaptation over a Lost World adaptation but I don't see them doing it again.
Espio: Sonic...I get that Tails is a maniac now. And I get that you're like going crazy about it. But...he killed some of your friends. He even...killed Shadow and Silver! EVEN KNUCKLES!
>>200693139Well it's really a fresh start this time, and if they really go back to introducing all the characters again and make them fit into the new plot there's no real way not to at least do Adventure 2 since that is Shadow's introduction story. Of course that's just me assuming things.
I really appreciate Sonic Forces' use of leitmotifs. For example, the music playing in Null Space can be heard in Fist Bump. Once you escape, Fist Bump actually starts playing. It's not the regular version though, this one has louder percussion and the guitar is more prominent too.During phase 3 of the final boss, the music sounds a bit like Null Space's music. After that the drums and guitar kick in, just like the Null Space version of Fist Bump. Finally it starts sounding exactly like the "it's a brand new day" verse of the song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcNEDhlfpv4&spfreload=10
>>200692348Well I'm glad you enjoy all the aspects of the Classic Sonic era, anon.>>200692659The designs and the art style of the characters along with the music grasp my initial attention. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy putting myself into the game and playing them but I'm pretty bad with going through any version of Sonic. I really like a lot of the vocal themes in the series, and I think a lot of them suit themselves nicely. I don't remember most of the comics I read though I did read SU#1, I liked it since it gave me a different perspective, especially with Shadow.>>200692710Not much is known about what's going to be incorporated, correct? Do you think they'll start adapting the games as they go or just brand new?
>>200692946>It feels heavier, but I don't see the problemthat's literally the problem you fucking clod
>>200693505Yeah, there's an extreme amounts of leitmotifs being used lately. Or maybe it's just been Unleashed, Lost World, and Forces.
>>200693526>Not much is known about what's going to be incorporated, correct? Do you think they'll start adapting the games as they go or just brand new?No idea. Could also be that they simply just drop the characters in and have the all be established. So Team Dark might already do their thing with GUN and so on without going into backstories. The people that read those comics would be familiar with the characters anyhow. Though I guess they could do Forces because it's essentially an easy way to introduce new characters.
>>200693505Forces deserved a lot of critique but definitely none for the music.
>>200693139They re-adapted Sonic 1, 2, and CD as part of the Genesis of a Hero event. They were going to re-adapt Sonic 3 and Sonic & Knuckles, as well, before the book was cancelled.
>>200693859Except the soundfont for the classic tracks, that should be rightfully shat on by everyone at every waking second.
>>200693526The solicits imply the comic is starting right where Forces left off.
>>200693741It's an interesting position to see where they can go. Just less than 3 months to gain more information.>>200694063For some reason, Dr. Eggman's theme/Egg Dragoon boss theme doesn't sound as odd to me. I quite like it.
>>200694186>>The solicits iwhat solicits?
>>200693505Same. I just wish the game wasn't so shallow. Like Sonic Team tried to make a game that looks and sounds cool on paper but just couldn't execute it when it came time to turn it into a reality or just flat out ran out of time. Like Sonic exiting Null Space is suppose to be this huge triumphant moment but it's too linear and you're only in it for a little bit.
I really like seeing the good vibes coming off of people enjoying this franchise
A attempt was made. Tried to draw toei sonic from memory, came out better than expected, especially after not having drawn anything in months.
Remember when Espio left Eggman Nega to die in Rivals 2 while he cried for help?Oh, remember when Espio told Eggman to off himself in the Japanese version of Heroes?Espio is serious business.
>>200694802Ninjas don't fuck around
>>200694491Same. It's always nice seeing people sharing their love about this franchise. Kinda surprised the argue part of the OP has managed to stick around after it was added.
>>200694793That’s a pretty good attempt, anon! Hope you had fun doing it.
>>200695015because it's true. If you have this many Sonic fans in one place there's bound to be arguing
>>200694690If it wasn't for the logo on the back those sneakers would be rad as fuck.
>>200690283Symbiote general and /swco/ are fine.
>>200694352Amazon is listing pre-orders for the first TPB, due out in September.>Join the Blue Blur for brand-new adventures as he and his friends race around the world to defeat the evil Dr. Eggman's robotic forces!>The evil genius Dr. Eggman has been foiled--but the work of Sonic the Hedgehog isn't over yet! In the aftermath of the latest epic battle, rogue robots continue to attack small villages around the world. In order to succeed, Sonic will need the help of his friends Tails, Knuckles, and Amy, along with some new and surprising allies. This new collection from acclaimed writer Ian Flynn features the blue blur like you've never seen him before. Gotta go fast!https://www.amazon.com/Sonic-Hedgehog-Vol-1-Fallout/dp/1684053277/
>>200695178The shoe brand, Sonic’s, or both?
>>200695141I know, but still.
>>200695396>Gotta go fast!urf
>>200692979>The only things pre-reboot that I enjoyed about those was when they adapted the Adventure games.They only did SA1 though. SA2 was just a "Play the game to find out!" tie-in issue.
>>200695407Mostly Sonic's. Even though it's the same color as the shoe itself, it'd be much better if it was on the inside or even the sole.
>>200695551They adapted part of it in Universe #2.
>>200695396I wonder if they'll mention where the fuck GUN was during Forces.
>>200695516Man if 4kids got a nickel for every time that phrase is mentioned they'd still in business fucking up localizations for a new generation of kiddies.
>>200695396>Gotta go fast!MEMES AND REFERENCES LIKE I TOLD YOU NIGGAS
>>200695761They never adapted Shadow's game though, right?
>>200695832Hey, 4K wasn't that bad. They made good dubs, like Pokémon, Kirby, and Ultimate Muscle.
>>200695828that's the human world anon, Forces takes place in the animal world. Flynn will respect this when the IDW comic starts up.
>>200686936>Boost makes no sense in 2D. Boost literally started in 2D....
>>200696047I wonder if IDW will show us the "Gate" between worlds so Iizuka doesn't have to.
>>200695553I actually wonder what the sole looks like. Having the shoe brand name twice seems kind of redundant
>>200696139That doesn't mean it makes sense.
How would you guys feel about a sonic game with reactive enemy damage.Something like this:https://youtu.be/j66cTc95XK8?t=230I mean current ST wont ever put that amount of special detail in there games but like its just an idea.
>>200696253Boost worked great in Rush and you're a stupid nigger if you think otherwise.
>>200696047So who the fuck are Shadow, Rouge and Omega working for in Forces? They are usually GUN Agents.
>>200696330Woops forgot to mention skip to 3:50
>>200695828Assuming they don't get the two worlds mandate, Ian will probably say the human side of the planet was fighting off Eggman's forces on their own. After all, Forces' world map doesn't actually cover the entire globe.
>>200696428They are freelance.
>>200695828They were probably dismantled after Eggman took over. It's not like they could really stop him.>>200696047This argument actually falls apart, since G.U.N. has been shown to have bases in Sonic's world, as seen in Huge Crisis from Sonic Rush. They even take matters from Sonic's world seriously, as mentioned in Sonic Riders: Zero Gravity, when G.U.N. investigated MeteorTech's security robots.>>200696428Unless Shadow and Omega started their own intelligence division, they're still working for G.U.N.
>>200696468Ah that makes sense.
>>200696542>Sonic Rush>Sonic Riders: Zero Gravitynot canon
>>200696330I'm debating as to whether it'd make sense in Sonic to do this. I can imagine it for Werehog in Unleashed or SA2 possibly. I wonder how it'd apply for the rest of the games.
>>200696380Wow nice namecalling, faggot.
>>200696380We don't say the N word in /sthg/.
>>200696380Modern Sonicfags, everyone.
>>200696253Boost makes more sense in 2D than 3D because a) it becomes more a tool to use in conjunction with platforming than a gameplay style unto itself, and b) levels cost less to make because you're not blazing through in boost corridors.
>>200696671>Sonic Rush>not canonThen how does everyone know Blaze?
>>200696041They also had quite a few stinkers as well. Really wish they dubbed and released the banned Pokemon episodes unedited. It would make Indigo League Pokemon that much better.
>>200696847how does everyone know Silver if 06 never happened?
>>200696330Almost every Sonic enemy is destroyed in 1 hit so it'd wouldn't make sense. It'd be fine for boss fights though and add an element of strategy and replayability.
>>200696330It would work great for that destruction game idea.
>>200696718it would work in the exploration style gameplay you see in adventureenemies cant do much in boost game aside from trying to slow sonic down or homing attack to platforms
>>200695832The mastermind behind that is too busy trying to sell boxes to cod kids
>>200696847Blaze is dead.
>>200697003They met in the Rivals games.
>>200697003Rivals.>inb4 "not canon"Canon because Iizuka worked on it and it forms the basis of Silver and Eggman Nega's Sonic Channel profiles, which are canon.
>>200669062>le sonic 1 is bad meme
>>200697064Okay, that's what I figured then. Seems pretty neat.At this point, or technically it's mostly the case, anything goes for Sonic.
why is two worlds anything to be taken seriouslyis that what we're doing now, pulling shit out of our ass instead of just accepting the series is inconsistent
>>200697114Blaze was in Generations
Have you learned anything new today because of this thread?
>>200697371Word of God.
Why are people saying there are two worlds when there are FOUR worlds?Sonic's World.Human World.Classic World.Blaze's World.
Forgotten how to doodle, I need more sleep>>200696890You gotta understand, Shadow was from like the 50's. You ever see any black scientists on that arc? I didn't think so.>>200694690I'd wear the fuck out of those shoes.>>200696884I assume in the dub he was just flat out pointing at him.I have a lot of gripes with the show but Pokemon 2000 and Pokemon 3 are some of my all time favourite films. So goddamn corny but also intense.Cant' compete with The Digimon Movie up until Davis shows up>the dub was much betterI will fucking fight you, I don't care, that movie with it's corny dub and great fight scenes. Honestly, if Davis and the entire third part wasn't in it, it'd be up there with Hot Fuzz.
>>200697607Classic Sonic and Blaze exist in two seperate DIMENSIONS, whereas Sonic's world and the human world are two PLANETS in ONE dimension.
>>200697453That all sides of the fanbase are equally shit & we should come together as a fanbase to shit on Sonic Team & SEGA for being to please any side of Sonic fans, rather than fight amongst ourselves when we aren't the ones making the games?
>>200697371because why not? that's what separates us from the Mario fanbase, we don't just accept things, we keep asking questions because every single little thing needs to be analyzed
>>200697683>whereas Sonic's world and the human world are two PLANETS in ONE dimension.But they aren't. They are two individual worlds separated by a dimensional gate.
>>200697453That this place is just as bad, maybe even worse as when I left it and that I'm glad I'm not that interested in Sonic anymore so I'm not chained to this shithole.
>>200697793The gate is not dimensional.
>>200697453Yes actually, I guess I overlooked the information about the solicits
>>200697743for being unable*
>>200697793Actually it's numerous offscreen portals that connect both worlds IIRC.
>>200697654To be fair, the third part of Digimon: The Movie was badly dubbed, with the whole movie being truncated and basically shat on. The Digimon movie is actually 3 seperate Digimon movies scrunched into one. Wait, are you the same guy who thought Taichi x Sora was actually a thing? You should really watch the subs of those shows.Also, that episode wasn't aired, since the old guy holds a gun right at Ash's face.
>>200697654>I assume in the dub he was just flat out pointing at himthey just didn't dub the episode at all. Which sucks because hearing Team Rocket with the 4kids voices threatening someone with a gun would be hilarious. That's why I wish they made an unedited version of Indigo League that's closer to the Japanese original.
>>200697846Then wait, how are you still here?
>>200663596Listen up, Pencil Necks! As the quickest draw ever to wield a sketch pad, Wild Woody's going to write-off a bunch of bad guys on his way to putting together the shattered pieces of a magic relic! To get himself out of a jam, Wild Woody can sketch-up things like bombs, mermaids, cyclones and ghosts! ...or just rub out enemies with his big eraser butt! Get the point? Includes amazing 3D rendered graphics and 3D bonus rounds!
>>200697986To see how it's been since I was gone. Also I didn't say I wasn't not still interested in Sonic. It's just more of a passing interest now.
>>200697683Wait so are there two versions of Blaze?One from another dimension and one from the future of the sonic/human world dimension?
>>200696047Eggmaqn tried to conquer both worlds, so why wouldn't he do that when he's apparently unstopable in Forces?
SomedayOne dayWe'll say "all factions of the fandom matter and we should respect each other," I knowHold onHold tightDon't let goDon't lose sight
>>200697976I never thought it was a thing, just my autistic ass (I was a kid, so less autism and more just being a dopey ass kid) wanted my favourite characters to be together. So I just assumed the two FOOTBALL, NOT SOCCER loving kids would grow up and be together. I don't remember them pushing it hard the Sora and Tai angle, but, I do have to know this. The scene where Sora lets down Tai, and as mentioned before, actually not a bad scene in the English dub, what's that scene actually about in the sub?>watch the subI have a backlog a mile long, it's on my to do.Also I said I'd watch it with a girl and that fell apart and I'm a faggot with hang-ups.I know about the truncated movies, but I still hate Davis with a passion, I don't think even the sub could make me like him.>>200697976>>200697979>Not airedAwww, it's a shame. >>200698136That is one nicely designed Nicole
>>200680565>happening againThe first one doesn't feel like it ever started to begin with.On Project 2017's release trailer I couldn't begin to theorize anything cause of that classic rat infection all over the place
>>200694451>too linearUnderstatement of the year. Linear implies there was even game play to be had during null space.
>>200698473>That is one nicely designed NicoleShe reminds me of a girl I knew in college. She was a lesbian.
>>200698304Technically, two dimensions. So you have Classic Blaze from a Classic version of the Sol Dimension and Modern Blaze from the regular Sol Dimension. And the Sol Dimension isn't connected to the future of Sonic's world. Classic Sonic's dimension is more like a seperate universe than just another dimension.
>>200698242I hope you gain interest again in the future, anon.
>>200698438Truth in this post.
>>200682704the beta version is worsehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxYORaEtTuA
>>200698646Was that girl Steve Jobs? Did everyone in class stand up to applaud?
>>200697859Then where is it? How close are the two planets? If they are within travel distance than we should see the neighboring world in the sky during every outdoor level, but we do not.
>>200698669Why the hell was Blaze "from the future" in '06 then?Nevermind that said future seems to be a destroyed Human World and not Sonic's world. And no, the game retconning itself doesn't count here.
>>200699007Look, it's a gate, and it connects two planets, and that's all anybody knows.
>>200698669There's also Adventure Blaze and Boom Blaze according to the official 25th anniversary artwork
why is it that sonic's lore is so unnecessarily complex and self contradictingthat's stupid and i hate it
>>200698879Reminds me of something, didn't Ian himself say you could see Nicole and Sally's relationship like a romantic one?
>>200698089Can we replace Tails with Wild Woody? I feel it would be a massive improvement.
>>200699082The honest only explanation that makes sense is that blaze traveled to the future due to unknown reasons and went on to help silverthats itdont listen to lizuka or whatever bullshit sega makes up
>>200699119Must be a really weird gate since Angel Island seems to like hanging around the human world
>>200699356Yep, it's just a weird gate, so stop questioning it.
>>200698089can he sketch up a good 3d sonic game?
>>200699417So why did Shadow look like a hedgehog if he's from the human world?
>>200699478Sonic's world and the human world know about each other and their citizens regularly visit each other's worlds. It's not like Sonic X where the worlds didn't know about each other.
>>200699565So I guess Eggman's flipping a coin which of the two worlds he wants to conquer this week?
>>200699673Pretty much, but I personally think he conquered both of the worlds in Sonic Forces. He was unstoppable with Sonic being gone.
>>200699794That's what Episode Shadow should have been. Him fighting off Eggman forces on the human world and that's why he was gone for so many months.
>>200699082They were probably going to retcon Blaze's backstory, like with Classic Sonic, but backed out at the last minute. There's no real reason, and that game was erased, and no one remembers anything from 06, so there's no real reason to question it.
>>200699917The only weird thing being that Silver isn't back in his own time.
>>20069908206 was a prequel. Blaze got sealed in the Sol Dimension. Sonic Rush takes off from there. Or at least that's the most sense I can make of it since they keep bringing up 06.I wouldn't think too much about, it's really not that important.
>>200700031Yeah, for some weird reason, time has no effect on Silver. Like in Rivals 2 or Forces, where the rest of the future is ruined, but he's all fine.
you now remember that he composed the music for Sonic 4
>>200700253Probably timeline bullshit like in Dragonball.
When is Methphallus the Dank coming back?
>>200700330He never existed.
>>200700330Nothing from Sanic 06 is coming back. That includes Mephiles and Adventure gameplay.
>>2007003134 actually has good music it's just hidden under a bad soundfont
Has there been a Sonic song that rocked the saxophone?
>>200701112Hey Kayla, draw fem robo-hedgehog Omega plsthx
>>200701028the game itself hasn't aged well but SA1's soundtrack remains one of the best.
>every week go back to forces because I keep forgetting how linear and disappointing it isI hope if there's Dlc levels they don't take 40 seconds to complete and aren't linear as shit. At this point I would take even some unleashed Dlc type shit.
>>200701112This is begging for a "My own clone, now neither of us will be virgins" You gotta do it.
>>200702246Literally the only reason why I'm still playing this piece of shit is to unlock Avatar parts for OC creation
Post Sonic songs you think are underrated.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XF3M8ZzsoY4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4arjZWqw2TI
>>200700313senoue is daddy af
>>200702416I’ll see what I can do. Gunna hop off though don’t want to overstay my welcome.
>>200701112Stop making me want to impregnate the Buddy.Buddy is PURE no matter what gender.
Reminder that Sonic and Amy are no longer virgins before Lost World
>>200704968These two have never met. There is literally nothing supporting this ship.
>>200704968Please delete this. Shadow is for Omega only.
>>200699187Because the franchise tries to have its cake and eat too by trying to say that almost 30 years of history is all canon and exists in the same canon. It also doesn't help that one of the major powers of the chaos emeralds is messing with time.
My OC Amyum, she's like amy but she isn't AmyShe also lives in the forest, if someone attacks the forest she appears to take revenge
>>200704968it's a ship based on nothing, it's the Seinfeld of ships
>>200704968What is there to really say? I don't think either of them even know the other one exists, I don't get it at all.
>>200705126They hooked up at Sonic's birthday party. Done.
>can't create best OC in Forcesshit game
>Generations>Classic Sonic tries to Air Boost>"You're only going to get better.">Forces>Classic Sonic Air Boosts alongside Modern Sonic and the AvatarIt's the little things.
>>200705126>>200705467>>200705473They've interacted in the comics.
WHAT IS PROJECT PLUS
>>200706013>it's impossible to create child OCs in Forces>male Avatars and female Avatars has no gender dimorphisms except eyelashesNice job, ST.
>>200705242Absolute OC-Kino anon!
>>200706202To bad forces was an utter failure in regards to the large things.
What the fuck.
>>200708514I'm pretty sure Archie moving subscriptions to their other books instead of just issuing refunds is what they normally do anon.
>>200706389>Nothing on Retro>Nothing on TSS >Not even a GameXplain click bait rumor videoI am also in the dark. Project what now?
>>200708514Why the hell is it sideways? And reading the back of it shows the comic was written by Ian. Coincidence?
>>200681034>Adventure 2 has an amazing story
>>200708503Yeah, I heard about this. Fucking insanity.
>>200708664Project Plus is a branch found in Sonic Mania's SteamDB. It was recently added, so it's something new. What it is is uncertain however.
>>200708503>cant even type the name of the game follow by cheat, hack, or mod>it will automatically close your browser Jesus
>>200708503People like him are going to ruin fangames for everyone. Aaron already said that this was the fandom's first and only warning. If shit like this happens again Sega will have not choice but to crack down on fangames Nintendo style. That means no Ghp dev kit, no SAGE and, worst of all, we will never see another success story like Whitehead's ever again. We are lucky that Sega allows fangames to circulate. Of course, of they made good games in the first place we wouldn't need so many fangames, but whatever..
>>200708865>>200681168I love Adventure 2's story. It's not well-written but it somehow manages to be interesting, engaging, and fun, and that holds it together despite its severe flaws and highly campy nature. I don't think Forces did anywhere near as much of a good job with creating an engaging and interesting story.
>HURR TAILS STORY IN SA1 ISN'T CANON HE NEVER MANNED UP THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT A RETCON THAT HE'S A LITTLE BITCH IN FORCESI want to choke every one of you retards who says this.
>>200708503Sad part about this is that it looks pretty fun somewhat.
>>200710251>Caring about canon>in sonicoh i am laffin
>>200702521https://youtu.be/gOS6-5sV89Yhttps://youtu.be/vxBz8LXxGv4>no episode 3 by Mania devs ever
Do I ever get to train with Shadow? I'm at his episode in Sonic Battle, but with the way they're framing it, it seems like it'll be the end. So far, you only fight him four times in the entire story before he wants you to beat everyone then to face him.I wanna farm his skills. All I have are his pose, two copies of his dash, his guard skill, and Chaos Nightmare.Also FUCK the gamma/guard robos. That explosion post death is BULLSHIT.
>>200710479Well, clearly Sonic Team wanted us to care about Canon, given their whole "Ooh! Returning villains, guys! You better buy forces if you wanna see how and why they've come back!" Gambit. They tried to use canon to get fans excited for the game and you're shocked when fans don't like how the game throws canon under the bus?
>>200710645INITIATING RECOVERY MODE
you think the guys from sonic team have good luck in romance?
>>200711394No. They're cursed forever because of the unholy abominations they've made.
>>200711394>Japanese men having good luck in romanceIizuka's teeth are too fucked up, Miyamoto will never return his love.
>>200696719>>200696790>>200696838Go back to Tumblr.
>>200710645It's been almost a decade since I played that game I'm pretty sure, but iirc towards the end Tails has a vr fight thing where you can farm almost everyone. I know it wasn't too bad getting everything after a point.
>>200711689Oops wrong GIF
>>200711681Are you implying Iizuka's teeth means he isn't drowning in pussy?
>>200711681Lots of nips have fucked up teeth, have you seen them? They rival the Brits.
>>200711689>>200711768go back to the SA3 facebook, modernfag
Why do so few Sonic OCs bother to be creative with their body shape? Barely any deviate from the norm, such as being lanky like vector or fat/bulky like Big and Storm.
>all 3 Advance games have an ice levelIs this DIMPS' fetish next to bottomless pits?
If Maria had been given a chance at life, do you think she would have eventually become a homicidal maniac like the rest of her family?
>>200712498How many body types can tube like animals really have?
>>200712660That's why its a good thing she died. There is no such thing as a "good" Robotnik. If she survived her true family nature would have surfaced.
>>200712945How do you know? Maybe Eggman's parents were good people. Same with his aunts/uncles. We never heard about them because they never went insane. There's a chance Maria would be totally normal like these nobodies
>>200713053>There's a chance Maria would be totally normal like these nobodiesWe'll never know since she'd dead.
>>200712498If it helps you, Pinka the Fairy is very tall compared to other fairies
>>200712945>>200712660delet this Maria is a perfect angel!
>>200713270That's pretty good anon! Post her in the trash OC thread too!
>>200713507Yes, she is. After the bullet, lol.
>>200712202N I G G E R
>>200714003S O N I C
Salutations from North Carolina! I just wanted to drop by to say hi and to report that I've been able to make a little bit of progress on the dev kit while lounging around on my vacation. It's not much, but hopefully some news will tide you guys over for another week.>All of the characters' turn radii have been tweaked at higher speeds, making high-speed maneuvering more fluid and natural. >This means that no longer will you have to slowly angle the joystick left and right to avoid abrupt stops. The character's natural turn radius will adjust based on speed.>The Spin Dash now no longer requires you to hold forward in order to aim it properly, making it more in line with the Adventure titles.That's all from me. You may now resume shitposting.
>>200714563Sounds great.Thank you for keeping us alive for at least a while longer.
Has Sega said anything about Forces? I remember them celebrating how well Mania did.
>>200712498Because if they do, people will bitch about them being off-model and not fitting the Sonic style.
>>200714563How do I become a chad like you?
>>200688875>Classic Sonic is just a fucking skin changeHe's literally another (superior) character entirely.
>>200712660That reminds me of a dream I had once.In the dream Maria had survived the shot to the back but was put into this witness protection program esque thing (under the new name: Maria Hopewell), the government heavily compensated for her wounds and kept her disease under heavy surveillance, eventually NIDS corroded here nerves so badly that she was left an invalid strolling along in her wheelchair by the age of 20.In the dream I was her caretaker/maid and I essentially pushed her around in her wheelchair, and doing basic tasks that you would expect a 60+ year old crippled woman be incapable of doing. (She was like 11 50+ years ago so makes sense about the time of sa2 that she would be in her elder years)In the dream, I remember watching TV with her on the couch and seeing the crime scene report on "Sonic stealing a chaos emerald".When she saw shadow on the tv she dismissed me for the morning and in her voice, you could tell she could start to cry at any second.That's about as much as I remember from the dream, it was pretty lucid and one of my more memorable ones.I'm kinda considering making a fanfic based around the same concept of Maria surviving and who she would become if she was shot and survived.
>>200689327>generic teleport is a jojo reference
>>200688437classic sonic is ugly and homosexual
>>200716138everything is a jojo reference if you grasp enough straws
>>200716069I hope Big gets man boobs in the next game he appears in
So I was reading through the threads when Forces was released and was only able to go through 2 days worth of threads.Shit was fast and I feel bad for missing out on it.
So we agree Modern Sonic sucks and his design is an outdated image of 90's/early 2000's idea of cool?
>>200716710That seems to be the thread consensus.
>>200716710>This thread agreeing on fucking anything
>>200716710that design is fantasticProbably one of my favorite designs everUekawa under Oshima influence was a great combination
>>200716710It's absolute shit. The Underground design is easily the most aesthetically pleasing and well designed version of Sonic to date.
>"WAH FUCK CLASSICFAGS YOU'RE NOT TRUE FANS I LIKE SHADOW THE HEDGEHOG AND SHIPS YOU'RE ALL STUCK UP FAGS HOLDING BACK THE FRANCHISE">every game that apes the classics does amazingly well and overall better than games that try to progress into 3D>classics are so revered that they made him into a separate character and use him as a selling point Really makes me think.
>>200712660To be fair, Gerald only went nuts because she died.
>>200716946Thought I was in /swco/ at first
>>200717109>because she died>implying She exists within Shadow's soul.
>>200716390kill yourself you stupid fucking adventurefaggot waste of space
>>200716108I had a similar idea with her surviving too a long fuck time ago. It was basically her seeing how cruel the world really was from her short-sighted and optimistic outlook on it and destroying her innocence, which results in her working to end the world due to her rejecting reality.
>>200716390agreed, his gameplay is so slippery and tedious, nothing makes me want to swap over to mario like classic sonic
>>200717278They should give shadow a gun again and have him shoot classic sonics ugly ass lmfao
>>200716108>In the dream I was her caretaker/maid and I essentially pushed her around in her wheelchair, and doing basic tasks that you would expect a 60+ year old crippled woman be incapable of doing.cuck
>>200697743>implying autists will ever get alongmight as well ask for world peace
>>200717396>agreed, his gameplay is so slippery and tedious, nothing makes me want to swap over to mario like modern sonicftfy
>>200697773>because why not? that's what separates us from the Mario fanbase, we don't just accept things, we're autistic
>>200716936Modern Sonic's design sucks and you're a nostalgia baby if you disagree. His "quills" look like fucking dreadlocks.
>>200717639>>200717753>failing at shitposting this hard
>>200717402that's the stupidest, most retarded thing I have ever read
>>200717817>literally no argumentCry more nostalgia baby
You've hurt Sonic, which has caused Bartleby to go ultra instinct to protect and avenge his bitch.What do you do?
>>200717870whats wrong faggot are you gonna cry?? cry faggot cryclassic sonic got shot and killed by shadow its oversay good bye lmfao
>>200717963>Feral Amy raping SonicSearch it in your hearts, you know you want it
reminder that Eggman is a soyboy feminist
>>200718080I love u anon
>>200718148Wow I didn't know Silver was an ally of Eggman. What a twist.
>>200718024Sonic: "Bartleby, please! Let's just go home!"Bartleby: "I'm not walking away from this bullshit. I'll kill him! I'LL FUCKING KILL HIM!!!"
>>200717936>N-no *sniff* y-you
I hope everyone's acting appropriately and behaving themselves today.
Describe IDW Sonic written by Nerkish.
>>200718470Fuck you Modern Sonic. You're fucking lame. Now Classic Sonic on the other hand...
>>2007183731. no sonic related things to talk about until IDW comics 2. our cocklust for a good 3D sonic is left unsatisfied after Forces and now we have to wait for 2-4 years for the next game
>>200718605>NerkishI have no idea who that is.
>>200718470>having hope here of all places
I can't believe Classic Sonic is fucking dead.
>>200718850how does he died if you still have ring?
silver is shadows gf(male)
>>200718850good fucking riddance you blue rat
>>200715464You start by reminding yourself that Sonic, as a video game, has a brilliant concept and core mechanics. In his hay-day, Sonic was the only platforming mascot who went up against Mario and lived to tell the tale. That wasn't by coincidence. Sonic games, at their core, instill a sense of thrill, fluidity and elegance brought on by the way that the character feels to control and how he interacts with the environment around him.No matter what voice he has, no matter what color his eyes, no matter the color of his arms,no matter the length of his quills, no matter how many "D's" his game presents itself in, as long as Sonic holds true to the fluid and elegant movement that put him on the map in the first place, then Sonic can and will succeed. Have faith in what Sonic truly is, not what he has become.That is how you become a Chad.
>>200718850Sonic has a smile on his face, here's a possible way he died happy.
>>200719347But what if I like Adventure and Boost?
>>200719494Then you're not a Sonic fan.
Would you buy a silver the hedgehog video game? the plot would consist of the events leading up to the bad future and the gameplay would consist of platforming using his telekinetic powers
>>200719347>Sonic was the only platforming mascot who went up against Mario and lived to tell the tale>What is Crash Bandicoot?
>>200719594Would the final boss be Sonic's descendant?
>>200719594If it's a well done, fun game then yeah of course. I think Silver had a lot of potential in 06 but it was squandered because of generally poor physics and stupid stuff like that awful billiards puzzle in the sand level.
>>200719594>Silver and Raiden have the same VA>both weren't popular in the games they first starred in >get a platinum games made spin off >people like Silver nowIf only we lived in that universe
>>200719594>Would you buy a silver the hedgehog video game? Fuck no! What the hell is wrong with you?
>>200719607Crash Bandicoot floundered after 2001 and finally died in 2010. The N. Sane Trilogy was successful, but it's only a remake.
>>200719594No, I like Sonic games with speed.
>>200719932Still managed to compete with Mario for half a decade and contains the single best kart racing ever made.
>>200719607>What is Crash Bandicoot?Dead on arrival failed mascot that nobody remembers.
>>200720005Kayla is better
>>200719607>What is Crash Bandicoot?Ugly ass mascotAt least Sonic had a master piece of a design
>>200720000technically it wouldn't be a sonic game, it would be a silver game
>>200720093Why does (s)he have a male hedgehog nose?
>>200720043>talking about CTR in All-Stars Racing Transformed territory you fucking madman I agree
>>200720285Sonic Kart comes extremely close.Even closer than Diddy Kart.
>>200719594Only if Shadow and Omega are still alive in Silver's future, they can be part of the plot, and Shadow could be a second playable character based on the normal Sonic gameplay.
>>200719494>AdventureI'm working on an engine that hopes to blend both Classic and Adventure styles to create something that both types of fan can enjoy. In fact, I'd say that Sonic Adventure was the closest attempt ST ever had at bringing Sonic's core essence to 3D successfully in a 3D setting.>BoostIf you watch some high-level speedruns of Unleashed you can see the true essence of Sonic shine through here as well. The speed, the flow, the energy... When done right, I'd say that Boost Sonic can actually be quite beautiful to behold at high-level play. Of course, this brilliance can only be seen when the player is in complete control of Sonic's actions and movement.
>>200720659Scratch that, just make it Shadow 2 featured in the bad future of Silver and Shadow's love interest, Blaze. The final boss is Omega powered by Mephiles and Silver.
>>200720093Post both then. I like Kayla too.
>>200720208All wolves have that nose.
>>200721486Please no. The thread is finally starting to calm down. We don't need more shitposting
>>200721607Is this OC better?
>>200721745Here is some Peep I did a while ago.
Post some characters that pretty much nobody likes. From any version of the franchise. Main characters from the games are automatically disqualifiedI can't think of a single time I saw somebody defend Chip or Omachao.
>>200721968Does anybody like Tommy Turtle? Like, even in an ironic way?
>>200722102Don't think so. Flynn was very eager to axe him IIRC.
Reminder that Sonic is for humes. >princess human girl steals Sonic's first kiss >genie human girl put a ring on Sonic's finger
I miss Griffith.
>>200721968I like Chip but his English voice makes me angry. I have to switch to JP.
>>200722102Why does everyone hate him?
>>200722336>WOO! FEELIN' GOOD!Same
>>200722225Is it really a first kiss if it never happened?
>>200722594It still happened before it never happened
>>200722428>Why does everyone hate him?You know the tortoise and the hare fable?Tommy is literally just that but with Sonic as the hare. "A valuable lesson in humility for Sonic", and then for some fucking reason they brought him back and tried to make him an ongoing character
I know I might get shit for saying this, but I think the Adventure games are more like a 3D version of Advance than of classic. Sonic R and Jam's hub are closer to a 3D classic than anything else, for better or worse. Adventure doesn't have Advance's jump physics, but the level design feels similar.
These guys are the REAL Sonic Heroes.
>>200722901don't you mean the Advance games feel like 2d versions of the Adventure games? The only game that really feels like an advance game in terms of level design is Heroes because of all the bottomless pits.
>>200723017WHAT GOES UP MUST COME DOWN
>>200723017Uh excuse you, those are INDEPENDENT heroes created by the master storyteller and all-around savior of the comics medium, Ken Penders. Why would you slap a derogatory and derivative name on them?
>>200721968Does anyone like any of the Penders echidnas? At all? Cuz I don't think more than a handful of people ever did.
>>200723195HERE MY LAWSUITS MAKE A SOUND
>>200723368Probably because they all look like Knuckles but with hair.
>>200708503What a fucking asshole.