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Welcome to the Sonic the Hedgehog General. Share art, music & discuss new developments, ROM hacks, speedrunning, comics, and anything Sonic related!

/sthg/ #1205 - Chocolate Fountain Edition

>Sonic News<
Sonic to get a panel at SXSW March 16th.
https://schedule.sxsw.com/2017/events/PP96507

>General Interest Links<
General Link Compilation
https://pastebin.com/gSsdpUB5

Drawfag/Writefag Idea Walls
http://pastebin.com/j8KkPQ4n
http://pastebin.com/w88ZRNzi

/sthg/'s Refurbished Drawfag Booru
http://sthg.booru.org/

Bump and Sage Merch
https://www.redbubble.com/people/rikdraws/collections/781747-bump-and-sage

Event/Video Streaming Site
https://cytu be/r/sthg

Bumper Engine 1.0 Release:
https://mega.nz/#!XNUBxJQI!2NnU6PyE4Q7qHeNImlheUcPBInUFvlKeCrqGoy5GQKA

DevKit Character Controller Feedback Sheet
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Yg4kwxlaVrxnoc6Vqo7cfFAPt7CFAg4DTYXeD03W2jI/edit

Sonic Boom Seasons 1 & 2 can be watched here:
https://kimcartoon.me/Cartoon/Sonic-Boom

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I fucking hate you all.
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Moderssic~
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What are they talking about?
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>>205185271
>Not a valentines thread
Where's my ships
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Other M is a fancomic written by Ian Flynn, the lead writer of both the IDW and Archie Sonic comics. This is issue 10.
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I'll make a card for you if you don't bully me
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>>205116619

A year has passed, Nightmare Bureizu lost her interest in destruction, she wasn’t attacking any cities and heroes wasn’t changeling her anymore she was alone in the nightmare basement and forgotten.

What is happening to meeeee
Said the Nightmare

Suddenly Nightmare Bureizu’s Nightmare Basement vanished!?
M-My basement!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
That was Nightmare’s Bureizu last words

The real Bureizu was alive meditating for one entire year, she meditated her way out of nightmare’s possession!
While her body was being dominated by Nightmare her mind learned how to deal with the dark and the light

The equilibrium Mantra!
> I am the bone of my mind
Light is my body and darkness is my blood
I have meditated over a thousand hours
Unknown to Death,
Nor known to Life.
Have withstood pain to meditate for months
Yet, those eyes will never see anything
So as I pray, Unlimited Equilibrium Works.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ErwgLxBNL0

Bureizu controlling the power of the dark and the light achieved the
>Equilibrium!
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>>205185921
We lewd posting now?
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Exploitable.
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foodu
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>>205185881
Bing Bing best ship coming through
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>>205186005
I won't bully you, anon
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>>205185881
>Implying it's not
Girls giving boys chocolates is a valentines day thing, look at the image
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>>205185972
The giant pig-thing is Other M Naugus. The other two characters are the Other M versions of Sally and Elias.
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You posted the wrong pic anon
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>>205186035
Gonna have fun with this later. Thanks, anon.
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>Chocolate Fountain
Is there a version of this with one of the Rogues?
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>>205186015
Emiya theme, UBW

kek
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>>205186993
Cute girls you got there
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>>205186993
Nice OCs
Seriously tho, what a bunch of cuties
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>>205186035
Neat! I've cleaned mine up a little, 's gonna be fun meming it up later this is my valentine's day I guess this is real
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http://www.strawpoll.me/15068596
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>>205186993
Who's the OC on the right, is that Data? Is Data a fox now? Or is she supposed to be Data and Tails' daughter?
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>>205187551
kek The Fox
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Will Sonic be nice to Amy this Valentine's Day?
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>>205187369
Dude being homophobic is way past uncool!
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>>205187781
Not a chance fancypants
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Do you think Data is friends with Mr. Know-It-All?

>>205187551
Data only wants Knuckles.
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>>205187781
He has to be.
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>>205187846
Reminder that Ian's version of Amy is literally retarded.
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>>205187781
Sonic is always nice to me..
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>>205187781
He won't be spending it with her.
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>>205187551
Assuming you actually don't know who the character is, it's one of the post-reboot Archie exclusive characters.

>>205188086
T-thanks Ian..

>>205188094
Poor girl
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>>205188005
I see
Sorry if I triggered you anon I didn't mean to, I'm genuinely unaware of her intended ships
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>>205186489
Good taste anon
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>>205187189
does..that person not realize its fake?
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>>205188517
End of Issue 10.
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>>205188703
Thanks for the storytime, as always mate
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I guess Sonic just isn't attracted to pink hedgehogs. She also isn't a princess.
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>>205188210
It is fine.
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>>205188836
>I guess Sonic is only attracted to humans
ftfy
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>>205186106
"Tails is My Valentine!"
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>>205188094
Sorry honey but Tails does it better~
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>>205189141
Based Plant posters.
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>>205188993
That's because human females are better. Sonic has great taste.
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>>205189248
That's a good Cosmo. Who drew it?
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Drowning music
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>>205189148
that's not Honey
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>>205188598
To be fair, can you blame someone for not watching Jack and Jill?
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Who's ready to spend another year alone?
Maybe I'll finally start reading through the Fleetway comics like I've been meaning to do.
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>>205189141
Couldn't she just cover his entire body in pollen or something if she really wants everyone to know?
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>>205189440
lol, you dont have to watch it to know a bird would naturally never act like that. They wouldn't even do that if it was just water.
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>>205189503
She could but Tails would have to do the same to her
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>>205189381
I've been trying to find the owner for a while.

That pic is like over 11 years old.
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>>205185271
Mina milestone maybe?
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Quick post pics of best Plant
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>>205189638
Damn. That sucks.
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>>205189581

Are they abandoning it?
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>>205189358
I think it's just his fetish Desu, Amy could pull off a decent human girl if she shaved more
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A reminder that Elise knew Sonic for like a week and still managed to make it further with him than Amy. I bet if 06 managed to be successful, they would've brought Elise back.
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>>205187507
Oh wow, she looks like such a nerd.
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>>205189897
I would do the same in Sonic's shoes.
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>>205189886
>Amy grows taller than Sonic
>He gets a boner
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elise is one ugly bitch!
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>>205189897
still a better love story than twilight
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>>205189919
Don't bully Cream
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>>205189945
kek
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>>205188993
>tfw the only Sonic on human pics I've managed to find that feature kissing or more, all involve fucking Chris Thorndyke
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>>205189778
sure
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>>205190116
Cream is a lame nerd without a father. She's destined to become a worthless thot with daddy issues in the future.
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>>205189854
Yes because mobians are intolerant bigots that won't let two men raise a baby.
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>>205186990
those are some real long legs there
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>>205190367
>mobians
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P1
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P2
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>>205188103
this picture makes me feel weird
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>>205190910
Anon. You're gay.
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>>205191052
>Cheese, a chao loving Shadow
wtf delete this
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>>205191052
>Cream chasing after Shadow like Amy does with Sonic
That's a cute thought
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>>205189778
Birthdays are hard for Cosmo
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>>205191174
Cream is synchronized with the Chao on many levels including emotionally (source: the Sonic Channel comic). Cheese doesn't love Shadow, he's just feeling whatever Cream's feeling. Which is a whole new can of wtf delete this
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One thing I like about this artist is that they took the little things from the other seedrians, like Lucas' two toed feet and tail an incorporates them into her full design.

Makes her feel more alien.
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Dumb plant.
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>>205185972
Does it feature Samus Aran?
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Thoughts on the latest season of Sonic Underground?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxEZgOcF5_M
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>>205192153
really cool image
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>>205192153
Why was he trying to kill her again?
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Would you be upset if Sonic Team dropped Buddy and the animal world and tried to make a Sonic Unleashed 2?
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>>205192690
Because the writers forgot about the ARK Incident
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>>205192690
Shadow thought Cosmo was a Meterex spy of some kind. In the 4kidz dub he accused her of being a traitor for whatever reason.
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>>205192789
I wouldn't mind as long as it was a good game.
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>>205192690
because he his egdynessss
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>>205192789
I'm in favor of it
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>>205192789
No, I'd prefer them to drop this two different world nonsense and just concentrate on making good games with a consistent world.
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>>205192690
She had a bug in her head that the Metarex used to spy on them. Shadow decided to just straight up kill her so they couldn't (I assume because he if just kidnapped her, they'd go after her)

>>205192845
Technically so did Shadow. Had amnesia in the third season too.
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>>205192962
What if they made good games but with the two worlds nonsense?
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>>205192845
ark?
>>205192886
it isS

>>205192165
best season best sonic

>>205191814
something is wrong with her feet
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>>205192690
She was an unknowing spy for the Metarex.
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Fuck this kid.
Fuck everything about him.
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>>205192962
This just means that we go back to having humans as the dominant species.
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>>205193061
I'd be cross, but at least the games would be good.
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>>205193206
Older Chris was pretty qt
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>>205193335
This pic gives me a confusing feel that's not necessarily bad but I don't know how to describe it.
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>>205193335
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>>205193391
Helen became a certified babe. Danny went full on gay.
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Reminder of Chris will be on live action movie
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>>205193486
How does this make you feel?
>>>/trash/14040712
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>>205193704
Helen is best girl. Next to Topaz.
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>>205192789
>and the animal world
I thought this always existed?
Surely Sonic's friends aren't the only of their kind.
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>>205193704
And I'm pretty sure Chris fucked both of them at one point while still thinking out Sonic (and imagining they were Sonic).
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>>205193704
Name a hotter wheelchair waifu [protip]you can't[/protip]
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>>205194395
I can't.
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>>205192789
So Iizuka does know 99% of the fanbase thinks his two worlds "canon" is complete garbage, right? You think it's enough for him to change his mind about it?
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>>205194395
helen was my favourite human in the show as a kid

tfw no disabled gf to protect and care ;__;
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>>205194746
Why does 15% of the fanbase want human populations gone though?
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>>205195280
They're SatAMfags/Archiefags raised on the Mobius "canon", they shouldn't be listened to.
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>>205186141
ok
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>>205195280
sonic x was a mistake
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>>205194746
Legitimate question. Iizuka and other Sega people claim to be listening to the fans and trying to cater the franchise to them. Who exactly are they listening to? Because they're definitely not listening to any of us.
With the Archie comics, you could argue that Flynn was listening to the people on his website, even though he didn't really seem to allow criticism of his work, but where is Sega culling their feedback from? IGN? Metacritic? fucking Sonic Stadium? Or is it just sales figures and nothing more?
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>>205195418
Commence the bullying.
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>>205195418
thanks anon, thats very nice of you
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>>205195418
Aww, thanks

>>205195612
NO
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>>205195418
Happy Valentine's Day. What did you write about me on the backside?
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>>205195665
y-you too!!
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>>205195461
>even though he didn't really seem to allow criticism of his work

I saw plenty of that on Bumbleking.
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I want Sonic to be my valentine.
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>>205195665
That's great work, thanks!
Now prepared to be bullied
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>>205195665
Bless your little cotton socks
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>>205195665
You're wonderful.
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I just want Sonic to love me.
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>>205195818
Bumbleking was 99% Flynn fellatio.
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>>205195418
>>205195665
there you have it guys, there is hope, maybe we are not such douchbags after all
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>>205195441
Just Chris.
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Nice pre-Valentines Day cards Sonicbabs.
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>>205195892
Happy V-day, you fag. Great work
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We actually have a girl in here? Because not even a fag can write that frilly.
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>>205195665
w-wow thanks
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>>205195461
>Legitimate question. Iizuka and other Sega people claim to be listening to the fans and trying to cater the franchise to them. Who exactly are they listening to? Because they're definitely not listening to any of us.
Popular (see: loudest) opinions mostly. This leads to conflicting ideas. I brought up an example of this a while ago. You know that cartoon/comicstrip where a baby and a dog are competing for the dad's attention? The different factions are the fanbase are dogs and babies. And the dad is Iizuka. Same concept here.
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>>205195418
>>205195665
>>205195892
anon you are an angel please make one of these every year, im going to need them, they'll help me feel warmn and go on
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>>205196305
We're all girls here, anon.
There are no boys on the internet.
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>>205194395
>that tiny steering wheel
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>>205196136
Would Sonic bullying Amy be enough?
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>>205196136
if it makes you feel better i want sonic to love you too
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Knuckles was sleeping next to the master emerald like he always does after a sizeable lunch consisting of grapes, nuts, and wild carp from the island's clear blue lakes. Recently, knuckles thought, life on the island seemed less monotonous than usual. Sure, he has been sleeping in the same place every night for the past three weeks, but things like the sunset, blooming wildflowers, the warm, green glow of the M.E., and the ripples created in the still waters by wiggling tadpoles radiated even more natural beauty than they had previously. Knuckles didn't know why. He just thought that maybe he was starting to enjoy life alone on the island. At least after his latest escapade with that little blue troublemaker whose name knuckles didn't want to think about. It was his "ME" time. And God help anyone who disturbs knuckles' "ME" time. Just then, the rustling of leaves wove themselves in between the static inside knuckles' head as he slept, only serving to disturb him as the rustling grew ever louder. This sounds eventually roused knux from his slumber.
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>>205195892
Fucking nerd.
I love you too :3.
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>>205195665
Awww
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>>205195665
Actually reading something nice here made me realize what a fucking mean asshole I have become. I don't want to be like this. Maybe it's time for me to leave 4chan altogether.
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>>205196401
this
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>>205189639
>Mina milestone
No joke I'm actually waiting eagerly for when all the well known characters are done because the obscure milestones will probably be pretty memey.
I'm not so much talking about Mina, more so Fang/Nack, Infinite, professor pickle
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>>205195892
bless
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>>205195665
>>205195418
aww
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>>205195391
reminder that archie canon had humans
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>All this positivity
Disgusting and weak. There has to be something to stop this and go back to shit-flinging.

Hey /sthg/ lets talk about canon
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>>205195665
the hell is this lovey dovey nonsense
begone!
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>>205196705
Norman will be the greatest milestone of all.
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>>205196637
You could just continue to post here & be nice instead, anon!
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>>205196864
Fuck you. It's probably only day here where people don't argue, and let it stay like that, you weak.
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>>205196168
>websites are mostly positive towards the site creator

What's your point?
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It's funny how vile this place can be a lot, but also have anons who do absolutely adorable stuff.
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>>205196637
But anon, you can still be a nice person and post on 4chan. You're too strong to lose yourself. You can't give in to the darkness inside your heart.
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Stop this lovey dovey crap and let's get back to what /sthg/ is really about.
Gay stuff :^).
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I'm Mr. Know-It-All.
Here's a clue...

When a thread hits 750 replies it will no longer bump anymore.

At this point you are free to make a new thread, but don't make one too early.
It will get deleted.

After 250 images in a thread, you will no longer be able to post anymore until the next thread.
So use your image posts wisely!
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>>205196864
no anon lets be nice to our friends ~ <3
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>>205196705
I mean Nicole is probably going to win the next vote so it's going to happen sooner than you think
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>>205197323
Sorry, at the moment gay stuff is only allowed if it's lovey dovey.
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>>205197454
I want to ravish Maria.
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Let's perform a ritual in this lovely day to summon Maria back to life.
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>>205196924
>giphy
>png
you disgust me
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What if Tails and Spyro swapped bodies?
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>>205197682
With or without the space aids?
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>>205197671
she loves you to
she loves every one of us
every day she sends us her love from the skies
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Theoretically if some rich dude just funded fanartists to make his own Sonic comic, would there be a point to read IDW?
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>>205197817
what if spike was young spyro all along ?
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>>205197817
What if Tails worked at Subway?
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>>205197169
My point is you were wrong.
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>>205198183
As much as people shit on Sega's mandates, unrestricted fan wank always turns out worse every single time.
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>>205197817
What if Tails and Cream also fought at Dead Line?
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>>205197454
This.

Since V-day is close, let's talk about some things we love about the Sonic series.

What do you love about this franchise, /sthg/?
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>>205198298
What if it was geared then to be on game canon or Sonic X? OCs would lean towards story centric only.
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>>205198183
sonic the comic online
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Small update to the "Sonic 2D BGE" project. To the one or more anon(s) that brought this up, some things have been added to fix a few problems with the game. Keep in mind they are wip additions, so quality isn't final.

>Mixed Pixels (Mixels) have been removed
>Rotated Pixels (Rixels) have been removed.
>Sonic can now flip directions when in the air with the gamepad, and on the ground when you are moving in the direction of travel while holding the analog stick in the corresponding direction, like in the classic games.
>Sonic now can Spin Dash.
>Sonic now can Drop Dash. Instashield will be added later

I will have to improve most of these things as the game progresses, but for now I'm moving on to more functional additions with the last bit of free time I have left this week. With that, peace.

1 / 3
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>>205198495
I like the games and Sonic himself. He's the coolest, nicest, and all around best video game character ever.
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>>205198460
>Tails
>fighting in a Rush games
Silly anon, why would they do that when they can just use that time to shill Blaze?
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>>205198578
2 / 3
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>>205198298
I wouldn't say every single time, but It can get bad real quick. Mandates of some kind aren't the problem.
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>>205195892
>>205195665
>>205195418

Yall are fucking gay.
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>>205198862
I would probably remove the mandates on character development, wardrobe, emotion, and allow shipping on a case by case basis.
I would add in a mandates regarding original characters to ensure that the comic mostly focuses on the main canon characters.
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>>205198578
lookin good
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>>205198837
Looking fluid and fun already!
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>>205198578
>>205198837
Liking what I'm seeing here, lad. Any other plans you have for this game?
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>>205198578
you need to work on his facial expressions, make him look more cunning, he seems spacing out
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>>205198495
I like a lot of things about the franchise. Characters, art, music, it has a lot of charm and heart in it some place, some where.
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>>205198837
3 / 3

>>205199427
Low arcing plans, to keep the scope of this reasonable. It's just a tech demo of sorts, with at best a few levels with some concepts of Classic and Modern gameplay put together in harmony. At least that's the plan. One other thing I wanted to try, to give the game a little more lifespand, is add some form of custom editor based element for the game, like a "zone maker" or something. Still too earlier to go on.

>>205199681
I will, these are just earlier "programmer sprites". Once the main gameplay is hammered down, I'll sit down to work on spritework.
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>>205199308
I have fun playing this game.
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>>205195892
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>>205199308
I did not have any fun playing this game.
The levels were long, repetitive and annoying.
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>>205200294
Aww, thank you anon! I appreciate it.
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>>205195418
>>205195665
>>205195892
<3 <3 <3 SWEET SWEET YOU ARE SO SWEET ! <3 <3 <3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvMCQ6RPXW8
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just read through all the comics again over the course of 3 weeks, making sure to read them while buzzed.
I take everything back, I love the whole ride. Even the bad parts.
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>>205201148
Doing the same here, no buzz tho
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>>205185665
This is still just so great.
They should do a supernintendoCharlmers one too.
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>>205187507
Any TeenCream is my dream
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>>205200903
>I do understand the feelings of a Persian Cat >(but the Sphinx looked so cute I had to shave it...)
>He reminds me of parsley when he's standing there all alone
>(makes me wanna be his speciality...)
17 years later and I still don't get it.
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>>205192153
Brutal.
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>>205202146
me neither, sega character songs are riddles with subliminal messages hidden in them
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>>205195892
lil' Boomp & Sage are totally cute!
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>>205196136
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>>205202146
pubic hair
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>>205197908
>Chaotix
>Are
>Watching

fuck da police
>*looks up the statues skirt again*
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>>205201981
t. Shadow
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>>205203023
fucking right, son
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>>205203763
>THRILLHO
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>>205203005
>>*looks up the statues skirt again*
yes anon, she is rock hard
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tried to decorate a cookie for you /sthg/ but it didn't really work out. happy day before valentine's day.
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>>205203913
looks tasty.
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>>205203913
its ok anon, the intention is what matters :3
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>>205203913
>blue & pink frosting
ayyyy, nice looking cookie
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>>205203913
Thanks dumb rat
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>>205203913
Well, this time it really is the thought that counts, because the execution definitely doesn't. just kidding it looks delicious
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This is Venice, the superior concept version of Silver the Hedgehog.
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>>205202146
google the first lyric there, there's a couple old forum threads that explain that weirdness quite well.

>>205202898
lel
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>>205205040
Everything 'cept his creepyass pupils looks alright.
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>>205205040
his chesthair looks like weewee
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>>205205337
I think it's supposed to be gold
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I can feel them. They're everywhere! /sthg/ what's been going on here these past few months? I haven't been here since the free super sonic dropped in forces and the place is full of furries and fanfiction.

Did Sega learn from Mania's success and Forces failure?
Did the new comic get teased yet?
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>>205205040
Nah, the final design is much better.
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>>205205040
What if there was a villainous alternate timeline Silver or ESP Silver with the prototype Venice appearance?
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Is this whole place collapsing?
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>>205205937
IIRC there's a rapeycomic where Silver sleepwalks and his evil alterego takes over to do bad stuff to innocent ladies
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This is Knuckles, and I'm back!
I been away for a while
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>>205205989
Only into itself like a neutron star

>>205206109
You gon kick some butt at wild canyon?
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>>205205548
>Did Sega learn from Mania's success
We don't know. Mania is supposed to get some kind of DLC so maybe.
>and Forces failure?
Forces apparently performed strongly according to a segasammy report and the upcoming SXSW panel description. Also it wasn't a failure, it was just disappointingly mediocre.

>Did the new comic get teased yet?
There's an official Facebook page for the IDW comics where all the news gets posted now. So far we've seen the first four covers. They look nice. There's a new character. Her name is Tangle. She is a lemur. We don't know anything else.

>>205205337
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>>205205548
>Did Sega learn from Mania's success and Forces failure?
You mean, did Sega learn from the "strong performance of Sonic Mania AND Sonic Forces?" I can almost hear the sound of Sonic Forces being developed as we speak.
>Did the new comic get teased yet?
Only our fluffy new friend Tangle the Lemur.
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>>205205937
venice the infinite
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>>205206039
There was, but it's unfinished.

>>205205548
Bumper Engine finished, Light of Hope delayed for now, SEGA reports Forces performing strongly in sales, Bump & Sage fan game in the works, 2D Sonic game in the works, Ken Penders RPG in the works, SXSW is supposed to have big news next month.

IDW's first four issues will feature Sonic teaming with Tails (#1), teaming with Amy (#2), teaming with Knuckles (#3), & teaming with Blaze & a new character named Tangle (#4).

Tangle is a lemur, has a tail, is athletic & that's all we know about her. We don't know what connection she has to Sonic & friends, or anything else.
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>>205206194
Yeah, you know how it is Yo, yo, uh
Throw your hands up Come on, come on, yeah

Ain't nobody gonna come here and eat my plate, no Yo, what happened?, my Emerald's gone! Somebody gonna get theirs, quick, my word is bond
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>>205206212
Tangle will be terrible if they make her a regularly recurring character.
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>>205206195
>Mania is supposed to get some kind of DLC so maybe.
u being serious? dont tease plz
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>>205205548
>Did Sega learn from Mania's success and Forces failure?
HAHAHAHA no
>Did the new comic get teased yet?
Covers and solicits have been released, and a bunch of the old staff from Archie are returning. Tangle the Lemur is a new character that is going to appear in the comic. Two villain characters called Rough and Tumble are also in the comic, but no art of them has been released yet.
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>>205205937
Venice would've made a much better villain than an Iblis Trigger-hunting It's No Use-ing ally to Sonic and friends.
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>>205206506
>my word is bond
Always thought it was "my work is gone"
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>>205206689
In the files of Mania, something called "Project Plus" was found, so probably.
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>>205206794
yes
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>>205206212
>>205206453
>>205206721
How the fuck did forces succeed to them? It was universally mocked for being an unfinished mess. Also I like the new girl, did they finally confirm the Freedom Fighters no longer returning and why the fuck is Penders still a thing? Also, Blaze action this early? I thought they were reintroducing everyone?
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>>205206689
>>205206986
Project Plus is a branch on Mania's page of the Steam Database
https://steamdb.info/app/584400/depots/
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>>205206641
She probably won't, don't worry about it. IDW was just trying to find a way to hype the comic.
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>>205207158
>How the fuck did forces succeed to them?
sales money
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>>205203913
Careful not to get too many cookie crumbs on your plushie, anon!

Seriously though, that's adorable. Happy Valentine's Day, man!
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>>205207158
>How the fuck did forces succeed to them? It was universally mocked for being an unfinished mess.

It still made money, which is all companies care about in the end.

>did they finally confirm the Freedom Fighters no longer returning

No
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>>205206641
It was a shitty idea to introduce her this early. They also made her out to look like the coolest new friend to Sonic by making her act just like him.
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>>205207158
>succeed to them?
Sold well, I imagine.

>Freedom Fighters
They are still "wait & see."

>I thought they were reintroducing everyone?
Each issue will be about Sonic teaming with one of the major characters. Blaze & maybe Tangle are probably not major characters, but Blaze's issue in post-reboot Archie got cancelled before it was released, so this is probably Ian's way of making it up to people who wanted that issue & Tangle's role remains to be seen in this universe.

The fags that shitpost about "muh canon" have been crying about Tangle for a week now, but most people are just waiting to see how she turns out before having an opinion on her, outside of many finding her design cute.
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>>205207737
AHA! That's where Sonic Forces's sales are coming from!
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>>205207873
Who do you think peed on his chest fur? And why?
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>>205207726
Her design is pretty meh. As long as she is only a minor character or somehow amazing, she will be fine to me.

And yes IDW did announce her too early, should have made this more natural, but new characters get the views and they didn't have anything worthwhile to show off so yeah.
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>>205207834
What if she's the stand in for the player avatar in forces? I saw a picture of her,sonic and blaze in park anew
>>205207873
Gross, the only thing i feel is regret that Silver's sisterfu friend won't be seen anymore more will Breeze or Honey
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>>205207971
himself. He was probably trying to aim with his psychokinesis and he got a little twitch and sprayed everywhere
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>>205207834
I don't really want Freedom Fighters or an equivalent. Hyping up Tangle when she looks to be the leader (or a prominent member) of the Freedom Fighters depresses me that there can't be a simple comic about Sonic and friends going on Adventures. There always has to be some big war with the fate of the world at stake.
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>>205207971
The Iblpiss Tinkler did it. He did it in order to ruin the future.
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>>205208079
They should have just used Buddy at that point. I really wish they would tell plots like Unleashed or the Adventure games rather than slogging through more of Forces.
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>>205208079
Considering that the story is picking up where Forces left off in IDW, it wouldn't surprise me. But again, I'd rather wait until April since Ian knows more about what role Tangle will play than us.

As for the FFs, I don't really care if they come back & it wouldn't hurt my feelings if they don't. It'd be nice for the fans of those characters got something, but at the same time, I've kinda had my fill of the Freedom Fighters, Maybe they can return in a cameo or something.
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>>205207158
>How the fuck did forces succeed to them? It was universally mocked for being an unfinished mess.

Okay, but see here's the thing. Even shitty Sonic games will sell, just because they're Sonic games. The worst selling game of all the "main" Sonic releases was rise of Lyric and that still shifted over 700,000 copies. They have already said Forces has done strongly in sales at $40 and is one of the best selling titles for the Switch especially, so this isn't exactly rocket science.

The thing is, people can shit on a game as much as they want in their reviews online but people will still buy it. I mean fuck, just look how many people in this thread bought Forces fully knowing it was mediocre.
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>>205208263
Because obviously if you want fun stories you need to play the games...oh wait too bad Pontaff bungled the game plots up for nearly a decade now and the releases between games seem to be getting longer and longer now.

I really hope we are right and all these OCs were basically promotional material and are essentially tossed aside to focus on Team Sonic and Team Dark.
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>>205208625
forces is best game wat you saiyan
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>>205207502
>can't even be bothered to fix the aspect ratio
what a shit port
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>>205208805
Maybe Tangle will be terrible and they refrain from making OCs regularly important characters. We don't know yet.
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>>205207502
I want Knuckles to give me the succ.
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>>205207502
Tangle will be in the next Sonic game and Anime and she will be more canon than Sally and Nicole combined
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>>205209112
>using characters designed by westerners
>using characters from another source material
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I always wondered how it would be like when people new to Sonic comics would react to the idea of a character not shown in the games being more than a background character.

Oh, you fags are gonna be in for a Ride come April.
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>>205209038
they should make a "oke oc make them important
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>>205209112
Do people actually believe this will happen?
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>>205209252
As long as she remains not canon it is fine by me, IDWfags will be brushed aside the way Archiefags were.
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>>205209252
>I always wondered how it would be like when people new to Sonic comics would react to the idea of a character not shown in the games being more than a background character.

Only Sonic fans even think in those terms. It must the the ole 'tism kicking in. In any other fandom people understand the concept of spinoff media, but for Sonic you have all these braying brainlets who constantly shitpost about "canon" as if it was a concept that mattered. Or maybe they don't care at all and it's just an attempt to rile people up.

Either way, it's the 'tisms.
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>>205209240
the second point already happened with Amy. Then again that was before the Iizuka era
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>>205208805
>>205209252
I am just sick of multiple canons, why can't this just be treated as stories that happen between the games?
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>>205209541
It also happened early on in the series life.
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Name a single person who has been a bigger influence and contributor to the success and growth of the Sonic series than Ken Penders.
Protip: you can't
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>>205209641

Chris-Chan.

Checkmate atheist.
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>>205209568
Why do you so desperately need all of that stuff to be canon? It doesn't affect the series one way or another.
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>>205209686
>Creator of Sonichu the Electric Hedgehog Pokemon
Yeah nah, that isn't related to Sonic.
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>>205209720
I don't want it to be overtly NOT canon either, then I need to recategorize things in my head or eventually learn to not give a shit about any canon.

Here's some Sonic X model sheets:
Pretty cool...
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1wzoawydzps1mD-U5ssACKcfdUEHat5_F?sort=13&direction=a
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>>205209438
>Either way, it's the 'tisms.
Oh yeah. I didn't even get into the comics until 2010, but I had no problem understanding that other characters & spinoff media exist & had no problem with characters outside of the games existing. Hell, I actually thought it was cool that a franchise like Sonic had so many different kind of stories, characters & worlds.

It's gonna be so funny seeing the amount of screeching if Tangle ends up being a main character in IDW.

>>205209720
It's the 'tism, anon. Or that anon is just not used to the concept of multimedia franchises.
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>>205209350
Anything to validate their hate of something.
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>>205209837
>eventually learn to not give a shit about any canon
You mean you haven't done that, already?
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>>205209857
I agree there is no way that making stories about Sonic and friends can be done, nope we need to add other superfluous characters to steal the spotlight.
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>>205209568
>I am just sick of multiple canons, why can't this just be treated as stories that happen between the games?

I realize this is probably just a shitpost but in the off chance that you are actually serious, the IDW comic will never be in "the game canon" because Sonic Team won't give a shit about it or reference it in the games.

What it can do, however, is to use the games for its own stories.
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>>205209930
That would just make her canon, which would be great.

>>205209996
Nope

>>205210001
Apparently people don't like stories about the game cast because people like >>205209857
keep accepting new characters getting shoehorned in.
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>>205208195
Doing pretty gay
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>>205210132
I would like more game adaptations as long as they don't try to shoehorn OCs into existing roles the way Sonic X did. Just have original characters be story arc relevant then discard them.

Is that so hard?
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*BEEP* *BEEP*
Best ship coming through.
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>>205209837
>learn to not give a shit about any canon.

Not giving a shit about "canon" is the first step of not being a fanboy and appreciating things for their own value.

It's a very common problem among Americans, who have been weaned on ideas about canon and continuity through the superhero comic book fandom and related fandoms.
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>>205210291
Sonic didn't do a horrible job with it until Forces rolled around.
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>>205209857
Maybe some of us don't want our favorite characters getting upstaged by a "literally who?"
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>>205209112
If they made Tangle as a true Ninja everyone would like her
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>>205210452
At least then she would be embracing her actual archetype.
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Can (You) make a radical OC with this awesome base /sthg/?
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>>205210398

In the sense that it had no canon? Yeah I agree. Each installment being independent outside of some fun nostalgia references like Generations is the way to do a long.running game franchise. Bogging it down with CANON and CONTINUITY will just lead to endless rebooting and fan abandoment.

Sonic Team learns from Nintendo and how they do stuff like Mario and Zelda. The games have common themes, and occasionally you can do a cool callback or reference, but there's no big stringent plotline and the games can also just as well all be independent installments.

That's what these other anons don't understand. "Canon" is a shackle of the mind. A limitation. It only exists for autistic people who need to categorize things in easily understood categories.
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>>205208195
Shadow gon need a nice thicc wire hanger

Prepare your anus, blue
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>>205209857
Maybe if the games didn't have such terrible plots this wouldn't be a problem.

>>205210709
Nothing until Forces made me question my conceptualization of the world...hell Forces wouldn't either if humans were around and Green Hill and Chemical Plant were on their respective islands.

That's it really.
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>>205210709
I always imagined Sonic canon as some fantasy kitchen sink attached to a somewhat realistic world.
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>>205210556
>WHEN ARE THEY GONNA GET TO THE FIREWORKS FACTORY!!
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>>205210857
>Nothing until Forces made me question my conceptualization of the world...

Then your mind is willing to accept some pretty big plot holes in order to keep things neat and tidy. I envy that kind of determination.

But nontheless, "Sonic canon" is purely a fandom concept. It is the equivalent of a Game Theory video on youtube.
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>>205210697
>"heh. Radical."

no.
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>>205210709
Doctor Who manages to stick with one continuity without much difficulty...and that series is incredibly bonkers with what's involved in it.

If Doctor Who can do it, I think Sonic can too.
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>>205211035
>I always imagined Sonic canon as some fantasy kitchen sink attached to a somewhat realistic world.

I have no idea what this sentence means. You consider the canon Sonic games to be attached to the realistic world? What? You understand that "canon" has nothing to do with "what planet is Sonic on" or "where does this take place", right?
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>>205211190
>Doctor Who
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJ7dKmO65Xw
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>>205211102
What was established I kept in mind, and what wasn't I questioned as just "being part of the world"

If the two worlds thing didn't exist and Forces just reused Unleashed models for background humans (if need be), then I don't think I would still be scratching my head.
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>>205211190
>Doctor Who
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>>205208263
>looks to be the leader of the freedom fighters

god damnit you guys are fucking delusional
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>>205189778
What is this, a picture for plants?
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>>205211102
Tangle could have worked if she never did anything so significant that she actually had lasting effects on the characters or world.

We could safely assume that Tangle just never appeared in any of the game plots. Is that really so hard for Ian Flynn and his merry crew to do?
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>>205211210
I meant to say, I imagined that there was a fantastical part of the world and a realistic part of the world.
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>>205210556
What about Tangle is at all like Poochie? SONIC is Poochie, you nitwit.
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>>205211516
That would require a modicum of effort from Sonic Team and IDW.
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>>205211624
If you read the press releases about her, she is described as basically a female Sonic.
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>>205209641
Justin "Freddy Mendez aka Jay Oliveras aka Many Hands aka Romy Chacon" Gabrie
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>>205210291
This. I don't care about what is or isn't canon because appreciating/hating something on its own value & not whether or not the people in charge of the series gives a shit about it makes more sense.

Lost World is canon. It still fucking sucked. Champions in Archie isn't canon to the games. I still fucking loved it. MXYL isn't canon to the games or the comic, but I thought it sucked on its own as a story. Sonic 3K is canon & it's my favorite Sonic game ever because it was a fun game in its own right. Not just because Sonic Team thinks it fits some timeline that's barely understandable.

>>205210443
>Maybe some of us don't want our favorite characters getting upstaged by a "literally who?"
I don't wanna spend a whole thread arguing about something that hasn't been released yet & for people that may or may not be new to Sonic comics, I can understand having some reservations about a character we've never seen before being hyped up. But, this mentality makes next to no damn sense.

I mean, I'm not gonna bring up that the most recent Sonic game did just that with the cast being upstaged by your OC, but the only character I can think of under Ian who's ever had anything resembling a spotlight over any of the big 4 as a hero was Sally. And the height of her "spotlight hogging" under Ian was done to make it more impactful when she got fucking shot & turned into Mecha Sally in the preboot. Once the comic got rebooted, her & Nicole had one arc with focus, that being Spark of Life in the reboot.

From 252 to cancellation, the characters that got the most focus was Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Amy or Team Dark. The OCs got some focus & some spotlight, but they were clearly secondary to the main game characters.

What precedent of Ian Flynn's writing in the last couple of years makes you think that Tangle is gonna be getting more spotlight over Tails, Knuckles or Amy that's not gonna lead to her suffering in some major way, leading to Team Sonic saving the day?
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>>205211190
>Doctor Who manages to stick with one continuity without much difficulty...and that series is incredibly bonkers with what's involved in it.

What? I mean, you mean it has one continuity in the TV series, or what? Because Dr Who has a number of different, divergent canons of spinoff media that put the difference between the Sonic games, Archie and Satam to shame. There's three different novel canons for Dr Who including the Virgin New Adventures which still has a massive following. There's the Dr Who Magazine comics/short story continuity which has at times gone totally off on its own tangents (and different tangents than the novels). And then there's the no longer maintained Who canons such as the original TV Magazine canon.

I mean fuck me, there's like six different Dalek canons across the various spinoff media.

And that's not even getting into the US comics.

In terms of canons/timelines, Who is on the same spot as Sonic is. There's a core media that everything else tries to follow in the TV show. Then there's spinoff media like novels, comics and audio dramas which start off with the TV series but adds tons of unique characters, locales and enemies to them.

I mean, jesus, if we're talking Who then Bernice Summerfield is a companion who debuted in the novels, has never been seen or mentioned in a TV show, and remains a cult favorite among the fandom to this day to the point where she has had entire media devoted just to her without the Doctor even appearing. I can promise you fucking Tangle is never going to reach THAT kind of fame or widespread use, so don't worry.
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>>205211516
I think Tangle was added in so everyone would know the comics aren't canon...that's just how SEGA operates.

>>205211624
If she is thrown into the main cast she is.
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>>205211734
>>205211895
So you don't understand even on a base level what being a Poochie entails, got it.
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>>205192789
Literally no. Albeit, an Unleashed 2 without the Werehog that ISN'T BaldyMcNoseHair the Colors would be perfect. Granted, nothing's better than just having a SINGLE world with humans AND lanky animals.
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>>205211973
Okay sorry this might be a more appropriate comparison for her.
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>>205211895
Yeah, just like Sticks and Blaze and Shadow and Cream and Amy and Knuckles and Chris and Sonia and Manic right? Go learn what a poochie is.
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>>205211404
It has to be bait anon.
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>>205212082

No that's Silver.
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I'm gonna laugh at all these retards when it turns out Tangle is relatively minor and you're all sperging out over nothing.
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>>205211864
That's banking on IDW and SEGA not messing things up or some other writer growing attached to an OC and pushing them in the comics. Or even fans who don't care for Sonic as a whole demanding for OCs to get just as much importance as the real characters. Your optimism is cute, but there are too many factors at play that much ruin it for me.
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>>205212302
Didn't try to shove himself in the spotlight, he was only relevant in one game.

>>205212379
Then damn IDW and their misleading advertising. Also I don't want her to be "relatively" minor, I want her to be minor.
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>>205212302
That doesn't even make sense.
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>>205212395
>Your optimism is cute, but there are too many factors at play that much ruin it for me.

If you think a character's origin is vital to your enjoyment of them, then you're already ruined. You have some serious mental issues that probably require some therapy, anon. That 'tism is gonna be crippling for you when you grow up.
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>>205212450
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwhDwZHSZK4
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>>205212147
the anti-IDW/anti-Tangle shit really activated this boards autism to an unbearable degree. The canon fags and the Archie fags have made this place even more fucking cancerous than usual.
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>>205212379
Then I'll have to contend with fans demanding she be made more important and we go back to the Archie days of OCs everywhere.
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>>205212589
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NJuWtHvzZg
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>>205212589
>PINGAS?!
lel
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>>205212395
>Your optimism is cute

Your pessimism is ugly. Consider this is why you have no friends.
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I propose a solution, why not just tone down the Tangle talk and assume she's a minor character for now?
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>>205212613
>Archie fags

have been here since the beginning. It's the games-only fags that are the cancer.
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>>205212789
Because you're dealing with literal REEEEing autists that don't have the capacity to understand nuance, anon.
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>>205212789
I approve of this, that's probably all it is only going to be or fans are going to want.
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It's just a few trolls who aren't even Sonic fans trying to stir up shit. They don't want Sonic to be successful, so they shitpost. It's as simple as that.
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>>205212789
At least if she is more important we won't get our hopes up with the comic for too long.
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>>205212898
I want a story about SONIC okay, not some faggoy OCs.
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>>205213029
get over it, bitch
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>>205212823
>implying we all asn't autistic fags contributing to the cancer by continuing to bitch about eachother's autism instead of actually talking about Sonic shit
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>>205213029
is infintie a faggy oc
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>>205212789
Yeah these posts are getting ridiculous over a character that probably wouldn't be liked if she wasn't a minor character anyway.
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>>205213076
He is a Sonic character.
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>>205213029
>I want a story about SONIC okay, not some faggoy OCs.

If you were a Sonic fan you'd be excited Sonic is still popular enough to warrant shit like cartoons and comics.

But you're not, you don't give a shit about Sonic.
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>>205212789
I can agree to that, but how do we enforce it at all?
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>>205213238
Sonic deserves better than what he has currently really.
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>>205213252
we could ignore the people trying to stir the pot
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>The state of this thread
It's hilarious that people last thread just talked about how tiresome it is seeing this general falling for the same, retarded arguments & bait every single thread & here we are, fags spamming the same tired bait & people falling for it.

>>205213252
Just stop replying to whining about a comic that isn't out yet.
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>>205213259

Enerjak is broken.
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>>205212789
Agreed
No doubt this board is going to never end if she turns out to be important at all.
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>>205213132
what happened to its hands?
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>>205213443
I can't remember. Something with the chao editor, I'm sure.
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>>205213349
We were willing to compromise on the drawfag stream thing, I think we can compromise on this.
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>>205212789
Just politely ask people to not post too much Tangle art and ask people not to get too riled up.
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>>205213310
Not at all, he should have died 12 years ago. The fact the series is still going honestly shows how much the fanbase means to the series, we refuse to let it die.
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>>205212789
Okie, and also remind people that it is better than nothing.

And hey if IDW turns out to be crap we can just make our own comic.
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Hmm, not sure if I should do the Sonic X storytime in this thread. I'll probably do it in the next one.

>>205213673
Truth. I'd like to see better games, but I'm not gonna sit here & act like it's not a miracle Sonic is still around & is still getting comics, movies & TV shows.
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>>205213786
So they should wait till after April to post Tangle art?
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>>205213786
It would be pretty sweet for us to have our own comic. We could probably do better without all the mandates.

>>205213939
Some is allowed, just excessive praise and art posting can be seen right now as baiting shitposters.
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>>205214102
Because heaven forbid people be enthusiastic about something. It triggers the tisms.
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What's with the people who legitimately hate the idea of Archie having OCs despite liking the "canon" cast, as if most of them are any better?
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>>205213786
What would a comic made by /sthg/ even be about?
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>>205214329
Sonadow probably, seeing how the past week has been.
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>>205214102
>no mandates
>we get ocs and powercreep worse than DB super and Naruto combined

ha ha ha ha no

>>205214264
Cute/10

>>205214329
A cyber world with warring factions
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>>205214264
cute but not sure I would a hyena just out of safety concerns.
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>>205214329

Shipping, duh
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>>205213786
Like the film. It is gonna be its own canon, but there is no way it could easily satisfy a new audience without being its own canon. I do think it will be a game adaptation though.
I am glad to have a film because a Sonic film would be totally awesome.

There probably wasn't anyway they were getting this comic off the ground without shoehorning in an OC, but Ian Flynn is probably aware of her polarizing nature and will probably push her off to the sidelines.

>>205214102
It depends on how it is done, if it seems like bait call it out.
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>>205210697

Ohhhh Yeeeah!
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>>205213259
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>>205214329
We'd throw in Bump & Sage from time to time, just because.
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>>205214273
OCs made sense back in the old days when there was only like 3 characters in the series but now the cast is big enough to the point where OCs should be at a minimum.
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>>205214542
Was Tangle a mandate by SEGA?
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>>205214618
Looks like revolution 60
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>>205214736
Probably
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>>205214264
sorry anon, OCs have to have bright colors or they don't fit in with sonic
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>>205213259
The red one
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>>205214264
Are you THP, or are you fucking with me? I mean, Hilda's a cute either way, but still

>>205214273
For some, it's just hatred for characters not in the source material having spotlight.

For me, the biggest problem is that they were hit & miss. For every fun OC like Razor, there was one like Ash which was just a waste of ink. For fun villains like the Egg bosses or the Iron Queen, we had some overall shitty or forgettable characters like St. John, or the Penders echidnas.

This is why I can understand the reservations of certain concepts being revisited in IDW Sonic, but I'm gonna be fair & see how it's done first, before judging it. I don't mind OCs, personally. If they serve a purpose another character can't, or are entertaining in their own right, I'd love 'em regardless. But some OCs in Archie were just bloat.
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>>205214736
Yes, to show off that the comics are not canon.
>>205214779
She could be an antagonist.
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>>205214618
what is this ? is there more ?
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>>205211102
Question, this "logic" seems to be shitting on the premise you must be American to care about "canon". What about Mangas then? Dragon Ball Super? Naruto? Bleach? Fucking One Piece? Are these examples bad because they had (and still have) a literal decades upon decades of continuous story telling, instead of just being "lolrandom"? Tell me, why do you think people care about canon, outside of the "make sense" card? Why do people like to see ongoing stories, if they are apparently "pointless"? Why even make stories if you can make characters fuck each other one second, then act like they never met the next, then they all act like relatives, and more and more diversions from what transpired before it?

Why is canon a bad thing? Why can't Sonic continue the story laid out starting from Sonic 3 and Knuckles? Why would "canon" be a limitation? WHY is Mario and Zelda the "rule" to follow, for a series made by SEGA?
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>>205215012
Sonic Adventure continues from Sonic 3 and Knuckles.
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I do think the IDW comics would have avoided this problem if they were more clearly an alternate universe like Boom.
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>>205215248
>OCs
ew gross nope bye
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>>205215070
adventure canon got wiped out along with 06. None of that matters anymore, only modern and classic.
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>>205214915
its a female nude model of cobar the echidna. i have no idea where I got it from. I can upload it if you want it
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>>205215308
Why WEREN'T the comics this?
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>>205215248
Bump eyes scare me
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>>205215209
Meant to add: What do you think those concept art & whatnot are?

>>205215352
wew lad
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>>205215209
Neat.
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>>205214553
r8 radical girl
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>>205215521
That's the eyes of someone about to bump Sage.
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>>205215503
Probably SEGA mandates to make it close to the games but also not be like the games.

SEGA is the reason the comic sucks.
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Admit it though, even if Tangle does become a major character or is an annoying minor character are you going to admit the shitposters were right?

Why even bother telling them to wait?
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>>205215209
>>205215526
Iizuka is still at least on paper in charge of Sonic Team, and his current role is to work in the US in charge of oversight for licensing and stuff like that. Basically keeping Sonic's image consistent. Since he's still in charge of Sonic Team, he's likely getting material from the actual developers in Japan that he needs to look over. Probably for the 2020 Olympics game and whatever next mainline game they're spitballing ideas for.
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>>205215209
This really hammers home that they're packing up ship and moving sonic team to the us, likely because one of the things they got from mania was "We don't understand the west, let's move".
Also, I'd be over the moon if the Sonic CD opening/ending reels were in those boxes and were 4k scanned.
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>>205215682
nani?
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>>205215840
Because right now every single argument put forward is pulled completely out of their ass and has no point because it can't be proven one way or the other. It's just endless autistic screeching in circles.
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>>205215669
She's radical/10

>>205215884
Wasn't it said in the last SEGASammy report that Sonic is now a SEGA of America IP? They very well could be moving things over to the US.
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>>205216053
What is the likelihood that their fears don't come to pass?
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>>205215248
ahh. My favorite bump and sage picture. anyone know how abt's doing?

>>205215447
unfortunately i wouldn't be able to download it. I'm only interested in seeing the side view and front view anyway
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Last time Sonic Team was in the US we got SA2, Heroes, and Shadow.
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>>205216253
>anyone know how abt's doing?
Very busy, in a good way.
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>>205216289
So then things are looking up
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>>205216253
>anyone know how ab's doing?
We haven't really heard much from him since it was announced he'll be an artist for IDW Sonic.
I'd like to imagine he'll visit us again soon.

>>205216289
Edgy & Cheesy Sonic is back!
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So Season 1 of Sonic X takes place before the Adventure games, right? Then why do Sonic and friends know Cream? I get that she and Vanilla were created for Sonic X first, and then the games later, but still, some consistency would be nice.
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>>205216159
If they do then this general will probably just not discuss the IDW comic.
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>>205216289
Sonic Team isn't in the US, just Iizuka.
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>>205216493
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>>205215682
Lucky girl.

Would watch
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>>205215070
And up to 06, it's been abandoned. My point is, 06 was the thing that "killed" the old canon, but my problem is that you're a pussy bitch if you can't take a fuck up. Many other people have made stupid decisions for their work, and most of them do the most sensible thing afterwards. Just ignore it. It "happened", it's part of the canon story, but it isn't referenced instead of just being written out. Retcon'd. Non-canon. Doing this is the pussy way out of your "pride" for being shit at your job. Get over it, and try again and do it right next time. Look at Dragon Ball, GT is considered "not canon" but it isn't ignored like it hasn't happened, it's just alternate scenario, like the Trunk's timeline. They even revisit/acknowledge GT in places, like Dragon Ball Multiverse. And guess what, Sonic Generations/Forces is basically the same thing.

The problem is Sonic Team doesn't know WHAT to do with all these "canon" elements. Mostly because anytime they mess with them, they CONTINUE to fuck them up. I'd bet you if they had any dignity of the brand of Sonic over their "glorious Nippon" pride, if they'd hire the Comic writers for the game series, they'd fix all the bullshit problems the "canon" of Sonic the Hedgehog has left dragging him down. No longer is "canon" a shitpost, but something that can be worked into one whole again. SEGA just needs the right people, much like they need for their games in the first place.
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>>205216289
Yes, but it's unknown if this'll be a repeat of Sega Studios USA, where it was simply a US division of Sonic Team, or if Sega of Japan is handing development rights for Sonic over to another studio in the US for the time being.

>>205216493
https://www.segasammy.co.jp/english/pdf/release/20170515_rt2020_e_final__.pdf

A financial document earlier this year revealed that Sega plans for Sonic games to be made in North America now. Presumably, this is why Iizuka visited Sega of America in the first place.
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>>205214553
This hair...

Someone should make a hedgehog version of Yugi
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>>205216114
The same report also listed Puyo Puyo in "Domestic and Asian Studios". They might be bringing some staff to the US but I doubt they're straight up moving all of Sonic Team there. Maybe Sonic Team USA might be getting revived as a second Studio to focus on Sonic, but I doubt it.
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>>205216671
So basically, their complaints about how insignificant spinoff material is...is a SEGA problem?
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Just checking in. Anyone got some Bumper Engine screenshots to share?
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>>205216159
It doesn't matter, that's the point. Arguing about it now accomplishes fuck all.
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>>205216671
I honestly don't get why people Sega "abandoned the canon." Sure, they might not pick up any plot points from the games, leaving the games a bit "disjointed" as a result, but they've been doing that since 2005 with Rush, Riders, and Secret Rings during 06's development. How did 06 magically kill all traces of Sonic's canon and shatter it into pieces when pre-06 Sonic Team was already moving away from it?
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>>205216671
Thank you for this, I finally have someone who understands my frustration with IDW.
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>>205216819
Why does Shadow have such a nice ass?
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>>205216935
I got some saved on my other computer. I think I kinda fucked up & will need to re-download,
too
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Are the chaos emeralds considered not canon anymore post-Forces?
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>>205216935
Hey GHP, what do you think about Sonic games being developed in America now?
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>>205216114
So...Sonic Team USA is back? maybe they see it as an easier way to communicate with the Mania team while also getting a better understanding of what their western fanbase wants seeing as Forces didn't do well in Japan.
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>>205216671
Is this why Doctor Who spinoff material is treated as important by many fans even if it isn't always canon?
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>>205217129
>Forces didn't do well in Japan
That's a meme that news stories hopped on for sensationalism. It sold better than the more recent games in the series.
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>>205217051
They're still canon, but I'm not exactly sure why the resistance didn't use them. Sure, the Chaos Emeralds need a male hedgehog for their power, and Sonic was captured while Shadow was h̶i̶d̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶f̶r̶o̶m̶ 4th-dimensionally planning his strategy against Infinite, but they had Silver. They could've tried to use the Emeralds to have Super Silver save the day.
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Does Sonic being developed in America even mean anything?
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>>205217129
Forces sold better in Japan than Colors and Generations.
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>>205216671
Holy shit dude, you hit the nail on the head.
Thank you.
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>>205217338
That particular point really bugs me. There was absolutely no reason for them not to hunt for the emeralds when they had Silver who could use them in this situation, especially considering he must have had at least 1 on his person if he used Chaos Control to travel back to the past in the first place.

>>205217429
Probably not
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What would you do if someone lewd your oc?
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>>205217429
It brought us Sonic 2, and Adventure 2 if that means anything to you.
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>>205217330
>>205217458
Which is still low compared to sales outside of Japan.
>>205217429
the only main game with american help was Sonic 2 while Adventure 2, Heroes and Shadow were developed in America but used SoJ employees.
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>>205217539
Actually, Silver doesn't need the Emeralds to travel through time anymore. He just "can", you know?
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>>205217587
Thank them
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>>205216871
Well, in regards to the western comics, it is definitely an issue having to deal with "canon" for something that, if they leave without a lot of corporate meddling, can get them in trouble with "keeping up" what's been established in one place, but not in another (e.g, archie vs the games). So either that, or you control everything, to the point you have a problem of lack of originality in the comics and you're just restating what the games themselves do in the end. Really though, as problematic things can get, yes I would say SEGA is to blame, because the best way to cover all your bases is to immediately claim "this isn't canon" but pull a fast one after the fact if it can be worked into the canon after fan reception is positive enough. E.g, Sticks for the Olympic games, after Boom was immediately claimed "not canon" to the modern series when it was announced.

So in other words, if SEGA made sure everything they didn't themselves published out to the public was obviously stated "non canon" in some form like "Read through this way past cool take on the Adventures of SONIC the HEDGEHOG!" and there, new line of Sonic media, initially distant from the main line of Sonic (the games). I mean, it worked for Mario with the "NEW" Super Mario Bros and the "3D" Land/World series.
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>>205216671
Permission to repost this to every shitposter there?
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>>205217539
>Probably not
Then why are people talking about it like it's important?

>>205217595
Okay, so it gave us two great games. But is Sonic as a whole being turned over to America, with SEGA of Japan still butting in, or are the japs, minus Iizuka and whoever else, completely out?

>>205217673
I'm confused now.
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>>205217587
I'd be happy

>>205217723
fuck that noise with a rusted anchor. I could get past blaze dimension hopping for sonic's birthday but silver time travelling with no emeralds would go against one of the few reasons the chaos emeralds are even needed
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>>205217078
Is it still the same, out-of-touch, has-bins in charge? Yes? Then I don't care.
>B-but if they're here in the States they can communicate with their fanbase!
If they actually, truly cared about being more involved with us during the development process then there's a little something called the Internet that they could have utilized long ago. It doesn't matter where in the world Sonic Team is, they will leave a trail of steaming garbage in their wake.

Old Japanese men are too proud to admit that they were wrong and would sooner drive their entire livelihood into the dirt than actually listen to people and strive to make a change.
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>>205217673
He didn't say that though. He said it didn't do well in Japan and the fact is that it did better than the most recent games.

>>205217723
I know it's never explained outright (for some reason) but logically it's got to be Chaos Control. He did learn Chaos Control in the deleted timeline but they never showed him relearn it... I guess Sega just thinks because they showed him use it once we should all know it's Chaos Control? It's so strange that they've never referenced it since directly as Chaos Control and yet he still shows up.

>>205217867
It gives people hope
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>>205217831
There are many great ideas and characters from this material, but if it has no effect then it is no better than any fan content.

I mean maybe Tangle is great, but I'd be seen as a fool if I said Data should be a canon character despite the fact that both are non-canon.

Any great lore building on existing material is just as relevant as any headcanon too.
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>>205218162
Damn straight, senpai
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>>205218319
That wasn't really the response I was expecting, but okay.
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>>205218269
Why should you care? Be glad any decent idea from side material won't be fucked up by the idiots making the games, these days.
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>>205218398
The comics are getting fucked up by SEGA with those stupid mandates anyway. At least if they could be used in canon, there would at least be trade-off for it.
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>>205218162
Yeah, I can't blame ya. If the same people are in charge making the same mistakes, there's no reason to give a shit about the move.
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>>205217587
Support it.
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I think Generations has the best boost level design. Good balance between 3D and 2D segments, a lot of the levels have a surprising amount of alternate paths and routes and secrets too.

I feel like all Forces needed to do was keep that formula but somehow it went backwards.
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>>205218971
>Good balance between 3D and 2D segments
there's no such thing
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>>205218971
this
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>>205219060
(You)
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>>205218529
>canon
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>>205218529
one hand I agree. If they're going to enforce mandates to keep the comic close to the games but not use any of the comic's characters and ideas, then they should fuck off. Especially when you have someone like Flynn in charge who is an ascended sonic fanboy or you can just call him a super sonic fanboy 2

on the other hand, we can't afford a dark ages 2.0 or god forbid someone uses the comics as their soapbox. as much as i love flynn, he won't be in charge forever and the mandates will keep anything retarded from getting in the comics
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>>205219175
Thank you for understanding my frustration.
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>>205218162
u act like sanic games hav ever been good since 2
>>205218185
silvers retardation is so strong it lets him ignore times constraints
>>205218269
>There are many great ideas and characters from this material
being this fucking dumb
>but if it has no effect then it is no better than any fan content.
thats because the comics are fanwork. they always were
>>205218319
>agreeing with namefag just because hes a namefag
disgusting
>>205218971
generations and forces are the only good modern sanic games
>>205219175
>he won't be in charge forever
thank god
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>>205218269
The comics and the games don't have to have the same canon and SHOULDN'T have the same canon.
They're two different stories being told by two different teams for two different purposes across two ENTIRELY different mediums.

Why is this so goddamn hard for people here to wrap their heads around.
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>>205218971
>I feel like all Forces needed to do was keep that formula but somehow it went backwards.
Well if the same team that MADE Gens (and by extension, Unleashed) made Forces, it wouldn't have been a Lost World romhack, made by the Lost World team, who made an inferior Gens/Unleashed, called Colors.
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Did LC-kun research Sonic extensively before coming here or has he always had this knowledge?
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Sonadow~
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>>205219558
GHPAnon, do not response to this shitposter-kun, he is LowerCasefag, the faggot that killed the Mega Man General. Don't fall for his shitposting.
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>>205219702
Reminder that Sonic canonically dislikes Black Creatures.
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>>205219665
why wouldn't he have this knowledge before?
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>>205219582
Because there is a difference between the comics not being canon and having their influence completely removed from affecting other material.
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>>205219808
How he killed MegaManGeneral?
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>>205219582
also some of the games shouldnt hav the same canon
>>205219645
forces was almost as good as generations. it just needed more classic stages and no oc or modern sanic stages
>>205219808
im not ghpanon
>>205219832
so do real ppl
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>>205219845
Because he (you) only posted on /mmg/ before yesterday.
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>>205219832
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>>205219987
you?
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>>205220115
You.
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>>205220115
(You)
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Reminder that the Black Arms were planned as far back as Sonic Adventure 2.
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>>205220142
me???
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>>205219967
The general didn't have much to talk about, so he shat up thread after thread after thread until it died. He wasn't the sole cause, but he was one of the reasons we lost our sister general.
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>>205219973
You were responding to based GHPAnon with your shitposting, so I was warning him of your shitposting, LC-kun. Now shoo, no one likes you.
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>>205220253
Yes you
Fucking niggers.
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>>205220261
:(

>>205220361
'-'
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>>205220239
Why did Eggman jump down into the pit only for the stasis pod thing to rise up and out of it anyway?
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I want LC-kun to shoot hot, sticky cum inside of me!
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>>205220673
Bad anon, bad.
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>>205220752
Okay, I was joking. Only Shadow.
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>>205220239
nice fake screenshot faggot
>>205220301
shoudnt u of responded to him then so he knows u were talking at him
>no one likes you
rude. we all like each other here we are all good friends here to discuss video games
>>205220648
because sanic cant work in 3d
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>>205220821
Me too
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lets play a fun game. tell me ur favorite sonic game and ill tell u y ur wrong
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I fucking hate you all.

>>205220956
I fucking hate you most of all.
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>>205221129
Unironically Forces and 06 were my favorites
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>>205221129
sonic mania
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>>205221129
Sonic Generations
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>>205221253
Seizure warning
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>>205221129
Sonic 2
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>>205221483
It's Hyper Sonic in meme form, this should be expected. I do consult a spoiler warning, though.
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>>205221617
Hyper Sonic didn't switch colors that fast.
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>>205215209
how much do u want to bet he just draws umad faces on all the characters and other memes on the rest of the stuff
>>205215352
this
>>205215840
the shitposters are always right
>>205216031
better than any of flynns, not even joking
>>205216363
noone cares
>>205216461
the consistency is that sonic x isnt part of the games. u r retarded
>>205216671
there is no canon, ur post is as useless as u r
>>205216965
becuz he wanted to shitpost
>>205217001
becuz ur a furfag
>>205217051
the mandate is that only 1 kind of magic crystal can appear in a game at a time since they fucked it up in s3k and rush
>>205217338
>Super Silver
pls dont
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>>205221745
It didn't, but some how it still got people in the past, so that's one reason why Iizuka recton the form from the series.
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Don't engage with LC-kun
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>>205221942
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I like how the shitposters were reasoned with.

Good Job Anon of
>>205216671
>>205217831
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>>205221253
Thankfully not canon. The last thing this series needs is more power creeps
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>>205222167
Sonic can't go hyper, but Breadnic can. At least try to keep up with the Sonic extended universe before spouting uninformed opinions.
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I think the Chaos Emeralds can't be used again in the main timeline because they are holding the planet together.
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>>205221253
love u too buddy
>>205221295
wrong becuz if 06 is ur fav then sa1 has to be ur fav too becuz theyre the exact same game and if forces is ur fav then gens has to be ur fav too becuz theyre the exact same game
>>205221298
wrong becuz its isnt a real game becuz its just a mish mash of other better sonic games
>>205221479
wrong because it has modern sanic in it
>>205221506
wrong becuz ur baiting by pretending u acknowlege the best sonic game as ur fav. i know ur taste is worser then that
>>205222090
u first
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>>205222331
>the planet
Which one?
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>>205222414
Human
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>>205222506
But they were used in Colors DS, Generations, and Runners.
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>>205222331
Just use the Sol Emeralds
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>tfw fucked up my devkit & will have to re-download it

>>205222704
More pics of Sonic characters being booped, pls
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>>205222606
out of those only gens matters and those were dimensional chaos emeralds
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>>205222606
Generations is a corruption of time and space, so that can easily be an exception, when time and space are restored they are put back to their proper place.

>Colors DS
Wii is canon.

>Runners
Not canon.
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>>205222704
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>>205222704
>>205222860
learn how to draw
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>>205222704
>>205222860
More cute boops!
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>>205222931
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>>205223042
help me sanic
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>>205223042
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>>205223018
'sall I got.
Ask Lali-senpai for more cute Tails abuse
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>>205223042
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>>205223401
her name is tangle
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>>205223401
I feel so stupid for laughing at that.
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>>205223507
And she's not relevant to the rest of the series.
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>>205223679
doesnt mean u need to spell her name wrong
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>>205223874
gross
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>>205223874
Lewd! But cute
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>>205223507
No, her name is Zoboomafoo.
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>>205224152
>go "boom" on the bad guys.
Zoboomafoo a slut. SLUUUUUT
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>>205224152
watever u say aaron
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>>205223874

Cute
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>>205224152
come along and see what's new
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>>205223679
good god, you are fucking pathetic. Those little drinky-birds have a wider ranger of purpose than you and your dumbass posts.
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>>205223874
can do!
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birb
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>>205224757
10/10
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So when the comics come out and the shitposters are right...aren't we going to still have to deal with shitposting every time?
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>>205224856
it will be the same shitposting but this time theyll be undeniably right
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>>205224856
Anon, I.....
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https://www.destructoid.com/why-physics-matter-so-much-to-sonic-games-487440.phtml
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>>205225271
>An article about the importance of physics
Is this it? Are people outside of the Sonic fanbase finally realizing that physics fucking matter in Sonic games?
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>>205225342
Perhaps.
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>>205225095
Let's hope Tangle is good or very minor.
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>>205225271
lel. physics is a meme. as long as the game is a sidescroller and features classic sonic thats all u need
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>>205225468
I have faith for now
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>>205225941
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>>205226008
sad amy is cute. post more
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This fandom is kinda depressing. Not in the "Sonic fans are terrible" sense but the "having to wait for scraps that will hopefully not be too mediocre" sense. The worse thing about Forces is people waited all that time to get a meh game and the next one won't be out for a while. Sonic ain't like Mario where you can expect multiple games every year across a number of genres.
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>>205226863
That's why we have to survive off the nostalgia
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>>205226863
>Sonic ain't like Mario where you can expect multiple games every year across a number of genres.
Sonic usually still gets a release every year of some sort each year. What's sucked is that they've only really been Boom and mobile titles between Lost World and Mania/Forces.
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>>205226863
There used to be spinoff titles that came out between main titles but they stopped doing that to go the cheap route and make mobile games.
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Remember when Sonic
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>>205217429
Theoretically, the american staff that's already established there could help influence direction and be able to provide direct feedback since they would be in constant direct communication.
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Mario and Sonic are both dumb. DK is the king of 2D platformers and has the best games.
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>>205227576
>>205227815
If Boom is dead, do you think we see more traditional Sonic spin-offs again?
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>>205226863
it woudnt be like this if sonic ended after 2 like it shoud of
>>205227815
the mobile games are still spinoffs, u just disproved ur own point u literal retard
>>205227889
cant wait to see what memes they add to the games. well get future classics like "uganda charity zone" or "angry gamers zone" or "loading glitch zone" which will be soleanna castle town ported directly from 06 with no changes
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>>205226863
And we don't even know if the IDW comics will be good.
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>>205228064
>I'll kick that Donkey Kong right in his Konkey Dong!
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>>205228146
flynn is on it so we know itll be trash
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>>205228346
The SEGA mandates will ruin it.
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>>205228497
Don't respond to LC-kun. And it'll only ruin it if you disliked Archie reboot, which it'll be a slightly looser version of.
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>>205228569
I'm curious how high the quality of the writing will be, since I never cared about the comics because they were their own thing.

I only really care about the comics because the game writing is so bad.
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>>205228102
Maybe? I just think the industry is shifting. Like spinoffs are reserved to phones now to save money because games are expensive. Yeah Nintendo can get away with console spinoffs but they're also a first party company who needs titles on their system.
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>>205228643
Well if you've never read his Archie work, I'd suggest reading it to get an idea on what to expect from Ian's writing.
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>>205228804
What should I start with? I want something that is like the writing in the Pre-Pontaff games.
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>>205228497
sega mandates put flynn on, so ur right
>>205228706
thats because nintendo is a chad who still has a system to make games for
>>205228902
start with other m
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>>205228902
160 is when Flynn started writing. I can recommend starting with 175 too, that's when a few big changes happen and starts getting into some bigger arcs.

252 is a reboot, and more game-centric, though. It's pretty much one big Unleashed Arc
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>>205229041
I only want stuff that's like the games.
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>>205228146
IDW floor is likely mediocrity, while it's ceiling is probably just as good as the best of Archie. Despite the first 4 issues being revealed, it's still quite hard to get a grasp on how it'll play out.

>>205228497
While there's a couple mandates I don't like and Sonic Teams stupidity creeping in like with the Chip situation, I don't think they cause that much of an issue. Looking back, I feel like a lot of problems Archie had in it's last few years came more from management and general writing decisions than SEGA. Stuff like the """soft""" reboot instead of a hard one, starting with a long Unleashed adaption that had to speed up, Worlds Unite, the changing of the page ratios between the main story and backup, etc.
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>>205228938
>start with other m
Fucking autismo fuck, you don't know shit you nigger, get some god damn taste. If you want some good shit you have to read Ian Flynn's fancomic "Ultimate Sonic".
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>>205229063
then ur in for disappointment
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>>205229063
If you want stuff similar to the games, then you could try reading the reboot comic (issue 252 for the main comic, issue 55 for Sonic Universe).

You could skip the first 4 issues of post-reboot & start at 256 for the main comic, tho.
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>>205229207
>Freedom Fighters
Ugh really?
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>>205229331
>shitposting
Ugh really?
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>>205229331
They only have one arc where they're the main focus & you can skip it. If it really bothers you that much, then read Mega Drive. It's just Sonic, Tails, Knuckles & Amy.
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>>205229379
Well the Freedom Fighters change the dynamic of Team Sonic from the games. It isn't like the games when they have a big role.
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>>205229131
pls dont respond to me ever again u dumb troll
>>205229439
ur not going to get an honest discussion from a freedom fighters fan, anon
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>>205229439
The main trio throughout the reboot era was Sonic, Tails & Amy. Sally & the FFs were there & they were friends with him, but they weren't the ones he hung out with the most.
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>>205229439
And? Knuckles isn't even a regular in the comics since even in the games only circumstance brings him around. They allow for better dynamics than just Sonic, Tails, and Amy, which let's be honest is shallow at best.
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>>205229558
So skip the first arc and they'll be the main cast?
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>>205229616
If you're referring to Universe, no. The first arc there was Pirate Plunder Panic which featured Amy, Blaze, Cream, Bean, Bark & Nack/Fang.
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>>205229486
Reminder that Ultimate Sonic is the pinnacle of quality for Sonic within the comics medium. If you cannot recognize it's multifaceted meaning within it's artistry you are nothing but a fool who cannot comprehend beyond your own feeble consciousness.
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>>205229710
Mainline, I keep looking at the summaries and I keep seeing the freedom fighters.
I am aware it is autism but I don't view these characters as Sonic characters.
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>>205229767
Could read other Universe arcs. Very rarely will they focus on Sonic himself, but they usually focus on characters form the games.
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>>205229767
Get over it if you're gonna bother reading them. You said you wanted to see how Ian wrote Sonic comics, not a 1:1 comic adaptation of Heroes.
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>>205229767
The French Sonic comic does not have any Freedom Fighters whatsoever. Maybe try reading that if you want a Sonic comic without them?
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Personally my worry with the IDW reboot is the fact that Flynn talks about how the series will shift in tone from the suoerhero stuff that we got in the post reboot to something "new", and while I'm all for new things, it bothers me because it seems like he's going to be writing shallower stories.
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>>205229734
(u)
>>205229767
thats becuz theyre not
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>>205229836
Wouldn't Sonic X be better? I like Sonic X a lot.
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>>205229767
You're right, it is autism. But yes, the FFs are there, but they're not the main focus of the reboot comic.

If you don't wanna see them at all, then just read Sonic Universe. It exists to showcase other characters from the games like Silver, Shadow, Knuckles, etc. & it had some of the better stories of the reboot era, imo. You could also read Champions which is a mainline comic & the FFs barely show up in it.
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>>205229902
Depends on how tolerant you can be about Chris Thorndike.
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>>205229767
>I don't view these characters as Sonic characters.
You're limiting yourself. You need to open your mind.
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>>205229836
>not a 1:1 comic adaptation of Heroes.
thats becuz noone wants that
>>205229867
which is a real accomplishment after how shallow reboot was
>>205229919
>If you don't wanna see them at all, then just read Sonic Universe
is that a joke? they take up half of universe after the reboot
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>>205229902
Not really. Ian was more restricted with it than at any point with the mainline comics. It's only 40 issues so if you want to give it a go be my guest. There are some amusing stories here and there and El Grand Gordo is based.
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>>205229950
He is meh, I tolerated him in the show.
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>>205229867
Just gonna have to wait to see what he means by that. Everyone is still pretty tight lipped on how everything is gonna be generally for the comic with is kinda annoying as we aren't really far out from the first issues. I wish we could get Ian to go a bit more in-detail on the info soon.
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>>205229873
Ian Flynn's decision to alter the story of SegaSonic the Hedgehog so that Classic Sonic, Classic Mighty, and Classic Ray were repladced by Modern incarnations was a brilliant move. Classic Sonic is simply a poorly designed and bland character that reflects on outdated ideals and values that are far too politically incorrect for today's society. This change within Ultimate Sonic makes Sonic, Ray, and Mighty much more relatable and likeable characters that symbolically represent the true struggles faced by our society as a whole.
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>>205230115
Trust me, Ian has some great moments. Pic related.
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>>205229919
Meant to add: The arcs in particular I'd recommend if you wanna see the writing of game characters under Ian would be:

>Pirate Plunder Panic
>Shattered
>Silver Age
>Shadow Fall
>The Chaotix in the Case of the Pirate Princess
>Champions
If you wanna see his Eggman & don't mind OC villains, then I'd also recommend Eggman's Dozen.
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>>205229919
I grew up with the Sonic cast so the FFs there kind of show off my biggest worries with the comic.
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>>205230297
>OC
*groan*
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>>205230297
Wait, hold on, I thought Evan Stanley wrote the Silver Age comic?
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>>205230327
To put it like this: If you worry the FFs in the comic would equal Sonic spending most of their time with them, then you can probably relax. Post-reboot, I mean. Pre-boot all depends.

>>205230370
She did, but she's in IDW too. It's likely she'll write an arc or two.
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I don't remember this in Sonic X
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>>205230468
Huh. Okay.Being honest, I didn't really care too much for the Silver Age, despite liking what I read of her fan comic. Silver's future seemed a lot more boring, and Gold wasn't all to interesting of a character.

I liked the blue guy and them essentially dealing with the Time Eater, who's a remnant of the Super Genesis Wave's effects on time, though, so I guess it evens out? I hope we at least go for a more post apocalyptic world for Silver, though. What they did with in Pre-reboot was perfect.
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>>205230370
>>205230297
Pirate Plunder Panic was also not Ian (it was written by Tracy)
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>>205230557
Of course you don't. They erase your memory at the end of the episode.
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>>205230770
Oh yeah, forgot about that. Forgive muh retardation

But hey, Yardley!'s back too & it was a fun arc, so I recommend it regardless.
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>>205230468
I want to believe you but reading synopses and I keep seeing Sally doing as much stuff as Amy.
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>>205230956
Probably because she's a better character
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>>205231094
Not to me she isn't and she never will.
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>>205231139
Well that just means that's your opinion bro
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>>205230956
Again, if it bugs you that much, you can just stick to the aforementioned arcs Ian & co. did mentioned in: >>205230297

>>205231094
Sally was harmless in the nu252 comics & she wasn't anywhere near as bad as she was in say, Dark Ages preboot. But Amy was more entertaining there, imo.
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>>205231094
Sally has always been shit and will never be not shit because she is fucking dead.
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>>205231223
I'll say that Amy has been far more consistent but Sally has higher highs to match her lower lows.
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reminder that video games are toys marketed to children and that comics are commercials for selling toys marketed to children
>>205231321
this
>>205231331
no she doesnt she either a slut or a feminazi
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>>205231331
Is that so?! Well guess what, faggot? I respect your opinion, despite personally disagreeing.

And I fucking hope you have a good day,
too!
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>>205231321
based bartlebyposter
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>>205230956
Maybe you shouldn't even bother then.
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>>205231223
But she damages my ability to treat it as a game plot.
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>>205231617
maybe you shouldn't read the comic than
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>>205231617
Read "Dash & Spin; Super Fast Sonic!!". It's game characters only.
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>>205231416
Well, how about you do the same and enjoy what you enjoy no matter what anyone else thinks
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>>205231617
Then just don't read it and stop posting about how autistic you are, stupid fucker.
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>>205231617
Then just read Mega Drive, I guess.
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>>205231936
Reminder that gayposters should be electrocuted
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>>205231856
So I should treat it like the games when it isn't like the games?
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>>205232487
Or maybe you shouldn't expect secondary media to be exactly like the games, dumbass.
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>>205232596
I expect it to focus on the same characters as the source material.
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Has based AAR abandoned us?
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>>205232640
Then you're expecting the wrong things.
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>>205232596
Of course we need to have a bunch of archaic characters otherwise it is exactly like the games.
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>>205232730
DELET THIS
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>>205232596
Anon, just give it a rest. The comics clearly aren't for anon & if he's not interested in reading them even when some have suggested certain arcs, then there's nothing that can really be done.
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>>205232809
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>>205232809
You clearly want to see more gayposting, anon.
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>>205232832
I want more of the games, having characters not in the games take a major role is a problem.
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>>205215012
>Question, this "logic" seems to be shitting on the premise you must be American to care about "canon". What about Mangas then? Dragon Ball Super? Naruto? Bleach? Fucking One Piece?

On the off chance that this isn't a troll comment, there is a distinct fucking difference between a single-author series like any of the mangas you listed and a series of games created by many many people over the last 20 years. The concept of "canon" in fiction arose from fans of the Sherlock Holmes stories by Arthur Conan Doyle proclaiming that only Holmes stories by ACD were "true" Holmes stories, as during the late 19th century there was basically no laws in place to prevent anyone from publishing their own Sherlock Holmes story. This idea spread to fans of other literary works and would eventually become strong in fandom circles until we have what we do today.

However, and this is the key difference, Sonic is not a single-author source. This isn't Takashi Iizuka's Sonic or Yuji Naka's Sonic or Ken Penders' Sonic. This is Sonic the Hedgehog, a franchise created by many people from the very get-go. Regardless of the quality, content or your personal view on it, any form of fiction authorized and licensed by Sega is officially Sonic. You cannot break the Sonic franchise down to authorial intent because that's not how it was created.

Instead, the idea of canon in Sonic is nothing like the mangas you listed. It is instead like being a fan of creating canons within superhero universes, or Vold Newton canons or any other similar construct where it's basically just a mental exercise to pick and choose whatever you personally like best out of a series.
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>>205232934
Then the comics are not for you. You can fuck off now.
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>>205232874
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>>205232986
Fuck you then for your attitude.
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rate my ride
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>>205233226
too slow
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>>205233226
Needs a Sonadow number plate
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>>205233209
Fuck you for shitposting the thread up because of your fucking stupid benign autism, you cunt. Don't cry for getting yelled at when you act like a spoiled child.
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>>205232963
Basically this. Sonic isn't done by one person. Everything officially licensed by SEGA, whether it's the games, AoSTH, SatAM, Boom, Underground, OVA, Manga, Dash & Spin, X, Archie to now IDW, is officially Sonic the Hedgehog.

They're all different, but under official terms, they're all Sonic the Hedgehog. Caring about "canon" is the most retarded thing one can care about in a series with so many official versions of itself.

>>205232934
Then at the end of the day, Archie Sonic just isn't something that's for you. It sucks, but it is what it is.
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>>205233291
Hey the games have shit plots now and all of your comic exclusive characters are gone.

So maybe make something that focuses on the game characters now.
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>>205233226
happenin'/10
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>>205233291
You lashing out isn't really helping, anon. I gave suggestions on what arcs he could read, but he's not interested. I don't agree with the reasons whatsoever, but there's no point in getting mad over it. Just calm down.
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>>205233378
>the games' stories are shit now so the comics should be shit now too
>if I can't have something good, no one can
Kill yourself. Your last (You).
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>>205232963
>This isn't Takashi Iizuka's Sonic or Yuji Naka's Sonic or Ken Penders' Sonic.
You're right, it's Pontaff's Sonic.
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>>205233291
Go back to typing in lowercase.
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>>205233423
I really just want something like the games, I will check out some of the stuff later like Megadrive and the Universe stuff.

But fundamentally having these non game characters take a large role is a problem, I am not familiar with them and they affect the experience.
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>>205233771
Then either get familiar with them or shut the fuck up already.
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>>205232672
INKS! 5 hour sketch 8 hour inks
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Reminder that Sonic Underground is perfect and is better than everything else in the entire Sonic franchise.
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New Bread
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>>205233771
Read fanfiction, you will find better fanfics that represent the games than Archie.
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>>205233771
I can kinda get what you're feeling, anon. When I first starting following Archie Sonic, it was a bit odd seeing all these characters, locations & shit I've never seen or heard before. I've spent most of my time as a Sonicbab playing the games, I've never heard of New Mobotropolis, Iron Dominion & it was a bit jarring seeing all this new stuff in something Sonic-related.

But over time, the more I read, the more I got used to it & the more I not only grew to appreciate it, I've grown to love some of the locales & characters Archie introduced me to.

If the comic isn't for you, I'm not gonna force you to like it, especially since it's far from perfect. I'm just saying that I do sorta see where you're coming from & understand that it would be odd for someone who's been a fan of one type of Sonic for so long seeing something entirely different.
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>>205234027
This show did have an incredibly solid theme.
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THUNDER, RAIN & LIGHTNING
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>>205235283
DANGER, WATER RISING
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>>205235553
CLAMOR, SIRENS WAILING
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>>205235724
IT'S SUCH A BAD SIGHT
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>>205235871
SHADOWS OF DARK CREATURES
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LIVE & LEARN!
HANGING ON THE EDGE OF TOMORROW
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Nice bump limit, Sonicbabs
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>>205233226
Nice. I always wanted to make a Sonic car for Nascar 2003.
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>>205203913
That's a cute cookie, anon. I can imagine that piping is hard but it's okay. Thank you for the cookie!
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Sage the sloth is my Valentine.




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