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Games
>Shin Megami Tensei V - Switch, TBA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLSrGiiy95U
>Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey Redux - 3DS, Out in Japan, Western release May 15th
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJ-5x5IaYFA
>Dx2 Shin Megami Tensei: Liberation - Mobile, Out in Japan, Western release TBA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V6mJStJH1U
>Persona 3 Dancing Moon Night - PS4, Vita, Japanese release May 24th, Western - TBA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIkHWzT5Iv4
>Persona 5 Dancing Star Night - PS4, Vita, Japanese release May 24th, Western - TBA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VueiR2a_lDY
>Catherine Full Body - PS4, Vita, Japanese release - Winter 2018, Western - TBA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OejarinH0xo
>Project Re:Fantasy - TBA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reYl4RUpF_M

>Starter Guide
https://i.imgur.com/PRKpcPh.png

>Tips and Tricks
https://pastebin.com/1V9AUMNb

>Art books, Soundtracks, Manuals, and other Media
https://pastebin.com/f55EcBb6

>Fan Translations, Patches, Games, etc.
https://pastebin.com/WAcnMB5J

>Scripts, Sounds, and other Resources
https://pastebin.com/aCsjkMd5

>Booru
http://smtg.booru.org/

>Recommended Reading
http://pastebin.com/ByiXrDGX

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Mudodyne
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This is a Chaos thread.
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>Mothman
Fuck you
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Let's talk V. What are your hopes and fears?
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>>205203695
Hopes: More Demons. As many Demons as humanly possible. All the demons, creative demons, old demons new demons. Demons demons demons.

Fears: Not enough demons...
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>>205203695
>What are your hopes
That we get a good game.

>fears
That we get a repeat of Apoc.
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Figuring out how to progress the story in this game is not fun.
I've been here multiple times already but he just dismissed me.
But now something is different, I think I missed a trigger somewhere before.
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>>205203983
I wouldn't count on more than half of IV, the same as in P5.
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>>205204370
Every SMT game is like this in some manner. Hope you're enjoying yourself though.
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>>205203695
Hopes: Gameplay will be as much of a blast and just as addictive to me as smt IV and IVA were

Fears: It's story will be IVA tier, gameplay elements will be as broken as IV.
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After playing all day I finally almost cleared DDS2 (From Abbadon to the beggining of the final dungeon) and damm I wasnt expecting all these feels.
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Does anyone have link to the megaten ero game that doesn't require a login? Shouldn't that be added to the OP?
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>>205203695
Hopes
>gameplay is as good IV:A
>whoever wrote IV:A stays as far the fuck away as possible
>the planned social commentary actually has substance and doesn't feel forced
>either Kankeo returns or they let Doi actually handle art without higher ups fucking over his work
>at least 20ish new demons, more like Krishna and adramelech and less like demeter
>Ryota Kozuka from IV/IV:A returns for the soundtrack, if not then at least Meguro
>physical skills cost hp again, VIT returns as well now
>more complex dungeon design
>art direction like Nocturne, surreal and absurd locations
>actually doing something original with the alignment system and having each alignment feel balanced in representation and how shitty they feel.
>actually making the cast likable
>make the story genuinely emotional but not in manipulative ways

Fears
>gameplay is shit and/or unbalanced
>whoever wrote IV:A's script is involved in anyway
>whoever did the art for DSJ is made the main artist
>casualized gameplay for the new P5fags they want to interest
>dungeon design feeling weak like IV and IV:A
>pointlessly added story elements like feeling you need to make YHVH the final boss because this is SMT
>references to previous games out the ass just for dumb nostalgia
>more emphasis on dlc
>weak demon roster
>"we wanted to try something different so we added this shitty new mechanic that has no place in mainline SMT"
>the heroine is mostly just there to be waifu bait and nothing more

I'm planning to buy a switch almost exclusively for this game, had this not been a switch exclusive I would not even consider getting one probably. This game better be good.
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I'm not sure if this is a good idea.

>>205204573
For the most part I'm enjoying the game but sometimes it's being a little too vague for my taste. It's like the game expects you to always check every nook and cranny of every place, even old ones. But I think that is something these old games just do.
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>>205205162
Dont forget motion controls
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>>205205540
>I'm not sure if this is a good idea.
>not fusing with every demon available for maximum STR
Do you even chaos?
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>>205205663
Oh shit, this is one I wasn't even thinking of. I want to assume Atlus is better then that regarding adding pointless gimmick control just because the console can but we never know.

Did FE# have anything dumb with the WiiU touch pad?
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>>205205162
Considering the aesthetic. I kinda hope they balance it between something like Nocturne with it's surreal art direction. But along with the kind of cyberpunk Apocalypse of other entries in the series. Though I would hope for a more desolate tone that invokes a sort of loneliness, but not too devoid of NPCs or characters, of course though there would be demons.
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>you will never play your favorite MT for the first time again
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The Messiah Church doesn't like me anymore, but that doesn't surprise me, I've been killing their troops left and right. The Gaia troops are much cooler anyways.
Can you access both churches when you are neutral?

>>205205902
Well, if you put it that way.
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>>205205084
>doesn't require a log-in

pssshhh


https://mega.nz/#!no4QiQ4A!Km5B8wq9r1DiqKRqwCrQ8PH0lat4qcuvDYqr40W1mNw
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>>205206968
>Can you access both churches when you are neutral?

Don't think so, instead you get to heal up at mechanic shops. It's been a while though.
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I mentioned this in last thread but should I get Raidou 1 and 2 or Raidou 1 and Soul Hackers? One guy said playing 2 after 1 may hinder my experience, any idea what he meant?
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>>205206789
NPCs are sort of a weird case with SMT. I feel like SJ did a pretty good job with them actually. You had your human crew on the Red Sprite who would give you their own feelings on the current situation but you also had demons randomly wandering around that would give you quests to do. It was nice as rarely were they required but it offered a nice variety of both human and demon npcs to talk to. With IV/IV:A one of the weird sort of plot inconsistencies is how different the Tokyo citizens act between story cutscenes and in gameplay and side quests. I n all the story cutscenes it is suppose to convey that Tokyo is a hellhole where even living another day is a struggle. But at the same time towns are pretty crowded with npcs and often they say jokes and speak to you as if nothing is wrong. It was a sort of weird inconsistency.
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He decided to fuse with Lilim.
Makes me kinda mad that I couldn't give him an old demon.
Now his name is actually fitting.
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>>205208193
I say get raidou 1 and SH as they're more distinct from one another. Raidou 2 is abit weird as while the gameplay is overall much better but the plot is kind of shitty with a lot of really weird concepts that lead to mixed results.
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>>205208374
Alright I may be doing that then since that seems to be the common answer
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>>205205162
>>205203695
3D designs before get one this time. Luckily looking at the mobage seems like thats almost a given. Moreso the return of old demons like Old One or Demi Nandi.

I hope a return of the heroine. Maybe your aligment impact more the story, like based at certain points in the story based on your alignment you get diferent story missions. Think of the part of SMT IV where you can either side with Walter and stop the Ashura Kai or side with Jonathan and kill Lilith but it happens several times.

Make Mem Aleph the optional ultimate boss, or a whole dungeon where you have to face the strongest bosses (Said bosses are all the Mother Goddesses)

I fear a direct sequel of V where neutral is taken as canon. I disliked this approach in Apocalypse because i played Flynn as a heartless and ruthless samurai in IV but there comes apocalypse and makes him a well intended and pro-human faggot.

I want V MC to remain whatever way i envisioned him.
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I think I have been reading too many doujins to not find this lewd.
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>>205208920
>I fear a direct sequel of V where neutral is taken as canon. I disliked this approach in Apocalypse because i played Flynn as a heartless and ruthless samurai in IV but there comes apocalypse and makes him a well intended and pro-human faggot.
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>I want V MC to remain whatever way i envisioned him.
I hadn't really thought of this before, but i agree with this. Let us direct our own choices and walk away with them. I know IVA had the whole alternate timeline yada yada but still.
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>>205209106
>astolfo being brainwashed and becoming ozawa's meat toilet

How filthy.
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>>205209261
>>205209106
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What were the stat requirements for SMTII? I want to be ready for it so I don't have to grind when I need them
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>>205209518
10, including the shit like MAG and INT.
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>>205209595
Is it just those two?
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Any reason why I shouldn't murder this guy?
I haven't heard a single nice thing about him.
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>>205209770
you know what to do
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>>205209770
If you hesitate on this choice you're going to have some real issues further down the line.
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>>205208920
Good stuff. I know it wasn't the ideal way to do it and it is a bot awkward but alignment playing into demon co-op in SJ was a cool decision as it made alignment actually matter to combat.

I feel like Mem Aleph actually has a lot of potential to be a good neutral rep in all honesty. Mem Aleph is genuinely neutral, bearing no opinion of law or chaos, and only has the intention of the earth in mind. I feel like making a less extreme Mem Aleph that is focused on the prosperity of humanity as well as the life span of the earth could work well.

More demons coming to 3d is always nice too. Demi Nandi I don't think would work as it is more of a demon created for a particular game and specifically meant to play a role only in that game's plot but I would give a arm to see the Old One fully animated in 3d. Look at this crazy motherfucker, who wouldn't want to see all the eyes on the tentacle looking around?
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>>205209891
>>205209914
Alright then.
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Come on now buddy.
What's with this game and taking away my partymembers?
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>>205210713
Hoo boy.

you're never getting him back
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>>205210713
retard gained power for the first time in his life and let it get to his head.
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>>205206912
I've never had a favorite anything that was worse on the second or further experience than the first experience. In fact for everything that comes to mind, it's always been the opposite.
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>>205203129
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>>205208218
Yeah, I know. I can't help but feel like the game was pretty tone-deaf, it almost gave a sort of Devil Summoner vibe to the game even though it wasn't really trying to convey that at all. I just hope whatever SMTV does, they stick to the core of it's atmosphere.
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>>205212338
i don't think i've ever actually used mothman
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>>205212468
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I need to ask, is aleph a boy or a girl?
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>>205212856
Yes.
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>>205212856
That doesn't matter, son of man.
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>MINDHACC
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>>205211961
Not worse, just different.
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>>205206997
>femifiend

Boner every time my nigga
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>>205206997
Is this just text based?
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>>205213280
You better learn to negotiate with the ghost kids, their bind magic is annoying as fuck so no worth it fighting them.
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>>205214126
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>get super lucky at B&S
>buy Cat o' Nine Tails
>game becomes super easy
Who's idea was it to put such an OP weapon like that there?
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I wish that there was more MT2 art out there

Also, what do you guys think of the "openness" of MT2? Would you like to see something like that again in future titles?
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>>205214801
i thought SMT1 was more of an open game than MT2
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Hey, I remember this.

>>205214538
Already recruited one, although I just got super lucky. Anything else I should get? These lamias seem to be strong.
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>>205214187
yup
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>>205214538
What? To be fair I hated that dungeon and ran away from almost all encounters.
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>>205214558
Tasty. Personally I prefer flat femifiend.
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>>205214538
>>205215183
that dungeon is so fucking gay man

and it's a dungeon within a dungeon too
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>>205215351
It's right after you lose a heavy hitter as well. At that point law hero is crazy squishy and you don't have heroine to stun lock everything yet. Run from anything you can't recruit or hope your over leveled as fuck.

I once read RPG makers expect players to be on average 5%higher of a level because they expect us to explore everything playing old games it deffinately feels true.
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>>205215687
i obsessed over filling every square in every dungeon in that game and i was STILL underleveled and had to run from everything
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Who is your valentine date, /smtg/?
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>>205215940
i got myself a date with some LAW
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>>205215824
Every time I read online about people finishing SMT 1 in the level 90 range or brag about never needing macca I wonder how much they grinded.
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>>205215940
I got a date with a girl that looks like the dog
Wish me luck brothers
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>>205217672
Sorry kid but I have other plans for you.
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>>205215940
Got a date with quite the catch myself.

A nice not-so-moonlit night out, just the two of us.
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>>205215940
You
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>>205218221
d-dagda no
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>>205218294
OH FUCK
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>>205218294
>Hey buddy.
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>Maze filled with female demons, horses and chucky
>Also teleporters
A girl's mind sure is complex.
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>>205218813
yeah whatever, wouldn't expect a dumb chaosfag to appreciate a real man anyway
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>>205218352
I'll date you if you're a fellow lawfriend, anon.
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>>205215940
I'm going to watch Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, make a nice dinner and play vidya just like last year.
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>>205215940
I've got a date with a rage fueled fast day.
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>>205219276
>Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
I watched it for the first time last year and thought it was just okay. I liked that Clementine wasn't presented as completely perfect and all of his problems were fixed by meeting her but I still felt she was too much of a bitch and not a fit for Joel. She wasn't reallyblikable at all and seemed like a questionably moral person. Also the sub plot with the assisstents felt kind of forced, should have just been about Joel and Clementine.
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>>205219929
What I get out of it is they're two people who love each other enough to keep finding the other after their memory is wiped, but are destined to be apart which is why the cycle never ends. I agree with you about the assistants though.
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>>205219114
>nocturne's death screen has the devil summoner angel design instead of the newer one
I never noticed this.
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>>205220571
pretty sure it's just the one that's in the actual game
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>>205218221
Dadga plz, i need a dog gf dont do this
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>>205220396
I don't know, I guess I just didn't feel their connection was deep enough but I do like the overall concept. I guess my problem was that prior I had heard people hype the movie as the second coming and it was fine but nothing that moved me. Joel was likable and such and it had some good scenes but eh, I just don't see the hype sadly.
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>>205221026
That's nice and all but have you considered killing your friends.
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>>205221026
pretend to call her Pascal by accident, if she doesn't get it she's not good enough
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So that "player icon turns depending on your alignment thing", does that only apply to the later versions of SMT! and II or is it in the SNES ones as well?
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>>205221350
No, that is in all versions of SMTI and SMTII.
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>>205220812
That's what I thought, but the ones in that pic look like they're wearing almost nothing, like in the DS design.
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>>205221428
I was just making sure, I've been asking what I'm sure were chaos answers most if the time in SMTII and I still seem to be turning left, either that or the icon is moving so fast it's hard to tell if it's moving right or back and forth
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>>205221202
Can i keep the dog if i kill all my friends?
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>>205221463
You're right they do, wasn't the newer design made for Nocturne? If so maybe they made the death screen before they decided to redesign her because she's naked
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>>205221690
makes sense since it's harder to hid with the 3d models. I do prefer the redesign though.
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>>205221568
Only one boyo. Got to get your dick wet somehow.
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Well, she is a spider so that's normal, right?
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>>205221930
Im sorry dadga but...
ONE MORE GOD REJECTED
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>>205222634
that's a lie, you're not sorry at all!
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Thank god there were no enemies on the way back.
Whoever designed this dungeon should be punched.
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>>205222634
FUCK YOU
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>>205212468
He carried the fuck out of my FES playthrough.
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>>205223368
Pretty standard fare desu
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do i fit in guys?
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>>205223864
>drooling retard goes for world of STR
as expected of your typical chaos fag
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>>205212338
Don't reply to me ever again with that stupid moth.
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>>205208229
IIRC he always fuses with your strongest Chaos demon (if you have one).
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BvC_MzPXgQ
Let's get some tunes going.
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>>205229970
Sure, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qO6LWQhvzRw
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>>205230037
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJ6Hvs5mxUU
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>>205224260
He deserves it
>does nothing but antagonize and attack you throughout the whole game, even kill your waifu that was literally bred to be your wife
>gets cute elf gf while Aleph gets stuck with his mom and a curse
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>>205206235
>Did FE# have anything dumb with the WiiU touch pad?
Interactive map, enemies info and ingame-messenger.
It was very convenient.
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>>205230568
>convenient.
you mean casualised
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>>205230694
>QoL is casualised
:)
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>>205230983
QoL is the neutralfag's way
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>>205231035
makes sense a chaosfag just wants everything to be worse for everyone
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>>205231121
you don't get stronger by having someone hold your hand.
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>>205231035
Dont you have a mommy gf to fuck you depressed bastard?
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>>205231235
and you won't be stronger if someone cuts it off either
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>>205231343
you don't know that
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>>205231365
2 hands > 1 hand
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>>205231457
1 hand + 1 robot hand > 2 hands
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>>205231457
what if losing that hand drives you to become twice as strong with the other.
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>>205231605
you still won't be stronger than someone who has that same drive and still has two hands
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>>205231680
then just cut that guy's hand off
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>>205231780
see
>>205231121

welcome to chaos enjoy your stay
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>>205231837
and through that struggle you've grown stronger while tearing down someone who was stronger then you. I don't see the problem.
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>>205232009
you've only become stronger in that the person who was stronger than you now isn't, because you've knocked them down to your own level
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>>205232145
But in order to overcome those odds in the first place you've got to be stronger.
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>>205232240
sure, the problem with this chain is assuming the guy with one hand was strong enough to beat the person with two, which most likely wouldn't be the case and would have had to rely on things besides simply being stronger
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>>205215940
My GF/life partner. Hoping to get her into an angle type getup. Shouldn't be too hard to find honestly.
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>kill boss
>get so much XP you level up 12 times
The only time I ever got any pleasure from SMTI/II's combat.
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>>205237728
Take that back. Blasting shit with guns is a load of fun. The SPAS 12 sound affect makes my dick hard
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>>205230149
He got fucking brainwashed by that elf gf.
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>>205237875
Sorry. I like the little sounds enemy sprites make when they appear on the screen too I guess.
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>>205238079
Tha game has a bunch of really charming bits you wouldn't expect. Some of the sounds and some of the spite work are incredibly good.
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>page 9
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>page 3
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a new Devil Summoner x Yakuza when?
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You guys weren't joking around with the aspect Raidou meme all this time, it's pretty bad. I miss my CRT.
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>>205241869
The director/producer of the Yakuza series is on the Atlus board of directors, so in some crazy world, this could happen, but there will be some catches.
>main character is now voiced by Kiryu's VA
>story written by the Yakuza team
>new demons will just be famous Japanese actors in suits
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>>205242162
it's the best way to play
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>>205242471
>story written by the Yakuza team
how about, just some of their enemy assets and the Zero/Kiwami engine?
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you're really letting me do this huh?
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>playing a ng+ hard mode run of SMT IV
>found the old counter demon base
>actually got the full black demonica set from the cutscene
Fuck did this happen in normal game and i was just too retarded to remember? I didn't realise they gave you the entire set when you found it.
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>>205244939
>i was just too retarded
Yep.
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>>205245042
amazing, not sure how i missed the fact i had it the first time, then again my entire first run of SMT IV was a first SMT ever clusterfuck, so i guess it's to be expected.
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Flower-kun better be this cool.
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>Aeshma in Persona 2

>Aeshma in Shin Megami Tensei IV
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>>205245513
Wait, that's the same demon? Holy shit.
Thanks for nothing, Doi.
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>>205246192
Doi didn't make that, another guest artist did. I don't think Doi did any demon designs in IV. It's also worth mentioning that he's just a palette swap of Asmodeus. How lazy.
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>>205246426
I have to blame someone and Doi is the perfect target that everyone knows.
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>>205246976
Yeah I like to do the same sometimes but I also don't want to shit on the artist that did those designs because he's dead.
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>>205246426
>palette swap
what are we final fantasy now
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>>205247350
>now
Tam Lin.
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>SMT IV
>Level 20, playing the coffin rescue quest
>Actually beat Seth without breaking the coffin, instead of running away
>Get a surprisingly low amount of EXP and no item drop, Seth reappears immediately afterwards
I wasn't expecting anything special, but what the fuck?
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>>205231235
>>205231343
>>205231365
>>205231457
>>205231548
deja vu
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>>205203695
Hopes: Perfect blend of IV:A and #FE combat, sick OST, 3d models of 3ds demons.

Fears: 2021 release date, shit performance.
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>>205248127
>#FE combat
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>>205248127
>Hopes: Perfect blend of IV:A and #FE combat
>and #FE
>watch a cutscene to use certain skills: the game
ew
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>>205248658
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>they put the fucking car in this game
I can't even begin to imagine how you have sex with this thing
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>Appearance is Humanoid
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>>205249447
muffler
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>>205248773
>Use the strongest Almighty skill on a boss
>Demiurge and Shiva dance and sing while wearing frilly dresses, camera cuts to the boss to show its reaction and the damage number appears
I would play this.
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>long hair
>not short hair
why did these nip assholes have to ruin the Femifend for me. That shits not right senpai
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>>205252231
>having shit taste
baka desu senpai
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>>205253091
You don't understand. You'll never understand.
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>>205255621
egi?
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>>205253815
I don't want to understand.
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>>205222136
When I was playing SMT I that was the exact place I ended up being stuck in, she killed my entire party in no time. I was probably too underleveled or my demons were shit.
I want to get back to it, so would it be fine if I start a new playthrough or am I already too far in?
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Finally, I killed mariochi sisters.

What now?
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>>205257356
Just continue. I got bodied by her too so I grinded in a house surrounded by trees (in Yoyogi) so I could fuse better demons.
Just bring a demon with Mazio or Hama.
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>>205257642
You keep playing? Why are you asking us?
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>>205258057
I have no idea where to go.
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>>205258294
What's the last place Hijiri stopped by? Go back there, he points you in the right direction more than once. If he doesn't this time then try Yoyogi Park or Asakusa, the place with the manikin. Man I wanna replay Nocturne now.
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>>205258572
I forgot about him completely.
He wants me to go for Isamu.
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Happy Valentine's Day, /smtg/!!
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Megidoladyne.
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>>205260195
Will you love me forever?
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>>205261745
Let's all get on Skype and have a group jerkoff session together.

Only oldfags will get this reference.
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>>205262185
Wat. Did this actually go through?
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Saved so I can draw this one of these days
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>>205262185
>group jerkoff session
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>>205262469
>>205262694
Only oldfags will understand.
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>>205215940
I fused Asherah today does that count?
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>>205263571
We get it.
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>>205263571
Please elaborate
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>>205247783
IV is pretty strange.

The revive the Goddess Ishtar and stop the summoning of Astharoth quests have level 80-90 bosses respectively and your reward are level 50ish demons.

Or you defeat Belial endgame and when fusable he is level 58 or so.

IV was all kinds of wrong.
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After spending over 100h with Dragon Quest VII (3DS) and being pretty much done with it, I finally decided start with SMT IV.

And boy is the beginning dungeon annoyingly unbalanced.
What's the point in having enemies in the very first dungeon that can instantly kill your guys with a 2-hit-weak-combo? You just have to reload, because who wants to lose precious healing etc. items at the beginning already?

Last franchise game I played and finished was DeSu 2 RB, which had a beginning that didn't immediately completely put me off.

Maybe I'm missing something here, but this just seems really annoying and absolutely unnecessary.
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>>205265876
>And boy is the beginning dungeon annoyingly unbalanced
Don't worry, anon, the whole game is fucked like that.
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>>205265876
The first part of SMT IV is the worst. Get through the first dungeon and it gets much better. Also Git gud
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If I were to go play every (Shin) Megami Tensei game and spin off in release order now which games would I not be able to play in English?
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>>205266190
The ones that aren't worth mentioning.
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>>205266190
Majin Tensei 1 and 2, SMT If and Nine, Giten, Ronde, Devil Summoner 1, Last Bible 3, most of the Devil Children games, and a bunch of cellphone games which no one can play
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>>205266147
Yeah, after my initial frustration and, sadly, disappointment, I checked some threads and stuff and it seems you are right.
Guess I'm gonna grind through the shitter. I only played until I had the first three demons.
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>>205266663
Thanks for the comprehensive list.
Are there any fangames that are worth a mention?
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>>205267141
>>205267571
>Trying to recruit demons in the Amala Network
Try as you might, but it's impossible. Same for the demons in the Amala Dungeon
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>>205265876
The whole game is annoyingly unbalanced. SMT IV is fucking painful to play through these days, especially after Final. Even the PS2 games have aged better.
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>>205268235
>Final
*Apocalypse
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>>205268235
>Even the PS2 games have aged better
What the fuck do you mean even
PS2 classics don't age, period.
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>>205268183
I know, I use this option for close-up shots.

>>205267801
>Are there any fangames that are worth a mention?
My gorgeous visual novel.
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>>205266779
Its much more tolerable than the first 2 hours of DQ 7 if u can get through that u can get through SMT IV's start
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It does get better later, though IV in general is poorly balanced.
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>>205268235
What's wrong with the PS2 games?
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>>205274839
Not much, they just don't have all the QoL stuff all the recent games have and we're all getting used to. Aside from that they're some of the finest wine on the console.
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How long is Devil Survivor 1? Considering making an impulse purchase and buying it since i'll be away from home for around 2 weeks, but I won't do it if i can't beat it in around that timeframe.
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>>205271883
Gosh no.
DQ 7's start was super charming and very reminiscent of the 90s (obviously) and the golden era of JRPGs and not a headbutting annoyance at all.
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>>205276948
If you're only gonna go for one route I'd say you have enough time if you play enough hours every day. It is a lengthy game.
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>>205277516
How many hours approximately?
I'd say I'll probably be able to get in around 5 or so hours a day, maybe more.
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>>205277816
Maybe 40~ hours? I think that's how long my first playthrough took.
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>>205277816
>How many hours approximately?
Don't you know about www.howlongotbeat.com?
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>>205276948
>Considering making an impulse purchase
That's not how it works.
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>>205277816
gamefucks provides this type of info right now
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Hey, you. Yes, you!

What megaten game are you playing?
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>>205278035
Why is young Adachi hanging out with Door-tan and Door-kun?
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>>205278349
It will all be explained in Persona 0.3 the prequel.
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>>205278035
Thanks
>>205278091
I do, I just prefer asking directly
>>205278158
Sorry gamer, I wouldn't be the person I am right now if I carefully thought out whether I want a game or not before buying it. I only have a 3DS because I got up one day and decided I wanted to play Pokémon X.
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>>205278583
>I do, I just prefer asking directly
Unnecessary and counter-productive.
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>>205278746
I just like interacting with people ;_;
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>>205278340
>>205265876
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>>205278340
Just started replaying Persona 3 because I listened to some tracks from the game and felt like, it's been ages since I first played it.
I still really love this game, it feels so quaint and simple now but in a refreshing way after the 100 hours long bloated juggernaut that was Persona 5.
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>>205278583
It's still not an impulse purchase if you are considering it enough to ask about it on a taiwanese claymation forum.
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>>205278746
An unnecessary post a day keeps the White away.
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>>205278921
>and felt like
I NEVER FELT LIKE
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>>205279165
I'm glad you caught that, good job.
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Reminder your favorite Megaten is shit.
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>>205278340
Just started the Anguished One's route in DeSu RB and I am losing my god damn mind with the Daichi/Io fight.
>tons of demon tamers
>one with double up and evil wave and desperation
>ban auto-skills out the ass
>meanwhile i have only 3 party members
And to top it all off I'm striving for no leader deaths.
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>>205280938
just you wait until Io gets her powerup
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>>205283760
That part isn't too bad, actually. I usually charge at her with my STR MC and wipe the floor with her using multi-strike. It's the onslaught of demon tamers that's the issue.
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>>205203695
>V
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>>205284467
just try using a team of someone with evil/chaos wave and animal leg
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>>205284948
What's troubling you, my boy?
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if i rip music from the PCE CD port where should i upload it
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>>205285572
I don't have a switch.
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>>205285928
We are looking at 2020 release at best, it's not impossible emulation might be a thing by then.
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>>205286159
really? Yikes.
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I completely forgot this game already came out in Japan. So, what's the general consensus of the game? I haven't played the original so I was thinking of playing this version.
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>>205286781
Unlimited apps makes things really casual. Also the new dungeon makes all the original endings essentially bad ends. Everything added was for the worse honestly. It's still good because it's Strange Journey though.
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>>205285674
mega.nz?
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>>205286964
That's like saying Nocturne is bad since it invalidated Reasons in favor of designated ending.
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>>205286781
The shit endings of the original got treated properly as shit.

Loli Demeter is still a mistake even if she is supposed to be a more trustworthy Megami Mastema.
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>>205278340
KMT2, doing some decent progress and I might finish the game before it finishes me. Not sure what to think about two more SNES SMT games to go through, I might take a break after finishing KMT2.
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>ugly overworld
>boring music
>uninteresting characters (so far, anyway)
Does SMT II get better, anons? Just got to the factory (after King Frost) and I can't say I'm liking it much (unlike I, which had kickass songs and introduced its great alignment reps right out of the bat).
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I'm playing Nocturne and need some suggestions. I want my Cu Chulainn to have an option against large groups of demons. Wich one is better?
>Attack All, plus Chaos Blade for more fighting options
>Deathbound, plus Void Curse because the above skills wouldn't be needed
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>>205278340
P3P solo antisocial Maniac run, still preparing for Elizabeth. I kept resummoning Messiah from the compendium because I am farming for the Armor of Light heart item, and look what I got instead.
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>>205292626
Holy shit what a legend
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>>205292027
Oh man, just wait until you get to the fucking underground area for most of the rest of the game and have to start backtracking. Better rev up a guide to find those stupid pillars too. II is the worst SMT.
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Is there a fix for this yet?
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where he go
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>>205293893
hee goes he-hoome
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Someone make an edit with the Three musketers fighting Miladi instead of YHVH.
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>>205295105
>instead of YHVH
When the fuck do the Three Musketers ever fight YHVH?
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>>205278340
Completed Devil Survivor 2 a few weeks ago, currently working on completing Devil Survivor.
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>>205297680
They are four, not three.
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>>205298234
There was a movie titled that.. Yes, but the original novel was titled "Les Trois Mousquetaires"
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>>205298493
Yes, and on that novel there were four musketers.
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>>205299197
Yes, well it's still called the Three Musketers because d'Artagnan only really is officially a Musketer by the end of the novel. Regardless, I'm not sure why any of this is important. I said the Three Musketers instead of the Four, because he the first anon said Three.
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black frost
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>>205302376
Jack frost is the only mascot character that I actually like. The rest are cringy as fuck.
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>>205292130
Attack All runs the risk of fucking you over if you're fighting random encounters and a demon happens to have null/drain/repel phys.
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>>205302995
Who are the "rest" exactly?

The Jacks are great though.
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>>205302995
>not liking demonee ho
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>>205305418
pikachu, agumon, etc.
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>>205305718
What's wrong with Agumon?
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>>205306538
He's boring. He ranks above pikachu though.
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>>205306782
You're boring.
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>>205306989
Thats true.
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I found a cute girl.
I know that she is a demon.
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>>205307257
Aw, who spoiled you?
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>>205278340
SMT II until now, I'm still pretty much at the beginning.
>beat King Frost
>report back or explore the dungeon more first
>curiosity goes for the latter
>encounter a group of Angels
>fail to escape multiple times and they kill my team one after another
I deserved this I guess.

Also I started playing SH a while ago and stopped at the Shemyaza fight because he gave me a hard time. I should get back on it soon.
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>>205305502
>Jack Frost nendos are $100 or more
>things like Pyro Jack or Demonee-ho nendos are never happening
Kill me.
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What are good guides for KMT, SMT I and II?
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There are a lot of traps in this basement. Luckily no enemies so everything is okay.

>>205307657
Jesus' girlfriend told me that everyone in this place are demons and also knowledge from my Persona playthroughs, most recently from 5.
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>>205309128
Unironically the gamefaq one. If anything it's too good. I would highly suggest ONLY using it if your stuck for an hour. Even then you can ask here an someone will usually answer in 5 minutes
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>>205278340
SMT IV Apocalypse.

Im gonna toast Merkabah and Lucifer, just fusing some demons for it.
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>>205309037
>black frost doesnt even get a fucking plushie treatment
Why are we still here chad bros
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So, where would I get a Soul Incense? I don't think I have seen one before.
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>go to con to appease girlfriend
>SMT panel
>fuck it's going to be persona central but I'll kick myself if I don't check it out
>it's about 80 people
>its actually 70% mainline fans
Was plesently surprised. It was just an hour of the series releases followed by discussion but I unfortunately had to leave for the fun bit.
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>>205310878
You trade it for a gem at the rags shop. It's next to the exit in shinjuku if I remember right
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>>205310878
I think you can get one from trading in a gem shop.

However do note you will get a huge law alignment bonus from freeing her.
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>>205311609
That's cool! Was there anybody from Atlus there?
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>>205311609
>brother comes home from work one day
>"hey anon I heard some people at work about that series you, megami tensei I think"
>"shin megami tensei?"
>"yeah, they were talking about shin megai tensei V coming out"
On one hand it might have been persona fags but it sounds like people discussing SMTV which really sucks, I wish I knew IRL SMT fans.
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>>205311774
>>205311979
I remember that guy but a law bonus would be kinda bad right now, I can finally carry that Axe from the Red Phantom.
Thank you anyways.
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>>205312245
No it was just some random fucking guy doing the panel. If you have ever been to a con about 90% of panels are just random people discussing stuff that they are fans of. The con outright pays people /invites people to come and give speeches more or less. I think the only "official" panels that I saw were funimation stuff and some VAs.
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>>205311774
>>205311979
Is it hard to recover from it? I'm doing a neutral run and close to this part actually, I feel bad leaving npcs to suffer like that but I don't want to really deal with struggling to change my alignment back.
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>>205312308
More and more I feel like we have equal numbers to persona fan boys. I feel we just aren't out their acting like a fucking autistic 12 year old.

When I went to that panel their was 4 jokers and a couple of other persona characters in cosplay. Not a single person who cheered for a mainline game was in cosplay (except one of the jokers who freaked out over Nocturn)
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>>205247685
How do we know which one is the pallete swap though? Haven't they had the same design since Devil Summoner?
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>>205313558
Not at all. TDL has a repeatable mini game that gives law/chaos points
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>>205264276
I'd also like to point out that some bosses have no weaknesses in their boss form that they have in their summonable form, which is all kinds of bullshit
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>>205252231
I think reconstructive surgery becomes an option once you fucked them hard enough, also you should check the options, the ability to fuck your party members in the dungeons and sex as one of the negotiation is options is off by default
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>>205313779
Thanks, my autism make me feel for random npcs who are fucked over since realistically that would be me in this situation and I would hope the hero helps me.
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Another "but thou must" choice.
Well, alright then. Time to check the shops.
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>>205314379
Oh boy. This one took some serious time to find. If I remember right you get it from the neutral healer.
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>>205314379
>>205307257
I want Alice to kill me.
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>>205312308
>tfw my new girlfriend looks like the dog and she likes mainline series
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>>205315296
>girlfriend
>likes mainline
Anon, what summoning was required to find a GF who likes mainline?
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>>205314630
Kinda similar in name but he sold a Hamaya.
Maybe I got lucky, I found the Hiranya in a Junks shop and I also found a letter from Astolfo opposite from that store.
I think it was the Survival Shop pre nuke?
Anyways, Astolfo murdered the Police Chef because what he did was badong.
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>>205314729
>Silly Anon, why would he-

Well, that's interesting.
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She got sad because I didn't die immediately.
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>>205315369
Its the hardest one in the game, its called go to cons and to places where people who like vidya go and talk to eveyone until you find the rare smt fan
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Uh
Did I skip a boss fight?
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>>205318659
>negotiations
oh yikes
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>>205318659
How much macca do I need to get them to join me?
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>>205318659
How many life stones did it take until you found one?
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>>205319206
You need all of the macca.
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>>205319372
I have 3ћ
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The Boogeyman just kidnapped Jesus.
I feel kinda bad for Alice.
She did nothing wrong.
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I'm gonna take it. Surely nothing bad will happen, right?
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>>205319793
yes take it and ignore that old man's warning
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>>205319271
Enought to satisfy all the female demons 7 times
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>>205319757
He didn't just kidnap him anon. He straight up killed him.
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>>205319793
Status update:
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>>205320328
That can literally happen?!
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How do I make the Zoma viable? He does shit damage compared to everybody else
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>>205320106
Poor Jesus, he died for our sins.
This game is kinda dark.
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>>205321174
that's why i love it

they manage to do so much with so little in that game
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>>205321174
Try not to feel too bad.
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>>205320925
Make him into a godly healer. It's too involved of a process to make him an attacker, and even then he's average at best.
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>>205319442
Give me a life stone and I'll consider helping you.
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>>205320658
Did you think it was just a meme anon? It's an actual part of the game. Though it's only a one time status effect. It's pretty brutal, because you take 1 damage every step and you can't use your COMP. Which means you can't open your map or summon any demons.
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>>205321396
>cheat
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>>205321174
>your mom dies
>your dog dies
>your friend dies
>your friends gf get turned into a zombie till you kill her

You haven't even gotten to some of the really dark ones. That last hour is gut renching on neutral if you have never played an smt game.
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>>205321584
I see what you're doing and it's not okay. You think you can just cheat me? Here, have a bead chain for being so ballsy.
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>>205321174
Jesus-kun is super unlucky really. He died when the ICBMs dropped on Tokyo and he also dies here. In fact, pretty much every character in the game except the MC dies at least once.
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>>205322119
>just wanted to find the only person he still cared about
>despite technically 35 years passing he still decided to search for her despite her probably being dead or at least forgetting him
>dies, reincarnated but as a puppet
Poor guy.
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>>205320328
Wait, why does he still have it on the world map!?
ATLUS
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>>205322119
The hero's didn't die during the ICBM. The only important character who died was the heroine.
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>New3DS can play SNES games from eShop
>no SMTI on the eShop
What's the point?
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>>205322656
The flashkart runs them flawlessly. Ironically even the fucking DS lite could run SNES games without issues. I beat smt 1 on it
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Stop making me feel bad Jesus.

>>205321834
I'm looking forward to see what will happen, I honestly can't predict it.

Also I just found out that you can charm bosses. This is kinda hilarious.
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Should my 2DS be good enough for all the SMT games on 3DS?
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>>205322968
In no way will you be able to guess what happens. That's why those who don't spoil themself consider it one of the best if not the best SMT game. I look forward to shot posting with you friend
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>>205323063
See
>>205322874
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>>205323123
Nah, even if SMTI is a wild ride later games still are better both as for narrative and gameplay reasons. SMTI really is interesting in how much really wild and even sort of thoughtful events occur.
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>>205323063
Why wouldn't it be?
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>>205323450
I dunno figured 2DS being a budget handheld of the 3DS family may not be able to or have issue playing SMT 4, Soul Hackers, DeSu, SJR etc
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>>205323428
It definitely has the weakest gameplay. As for wild ride it might be my favorite. SMT 4 gets shit but i enjoyed it
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>>205323607
Nope, it's the same as a 3DS hardware wise. It just doesn't have 3D.
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Interesting, they still haven't realized what happened.
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>>205323770
IV's is good but I guess the problem is that they didn't balance it well. Everything after Medusa other then maybe King Kenji is easy and being able to choose any skills in fusion, while a fucking great addition and one that shouls have been incorporated a long time ago, needed some balancing or aspect looked into to prevent demons from feeling samey. IV:A improved on it every way combat wise but the already sort of flawed story of IV went to complete shit and gave us the worst story in mainline by far.
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>>205288102
No, Nocturne would have its endings invalidated if they added something like Shijima+ instead of a completely different path like TDE. And I didn't say DSJ was bad, it's just worse than the original release because its new features subtract rather than add.
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>>205324215
The problem with demons feeling "samey" in IV/Apoc stems purely from the the choice to go back to the first person perspective. Demons in the 3D MegaTen games had a lot more personality because they had voice lines and (mostly) unique animations, while in IV they were essentially stat archetypes. Apoc attempted to alleviate that issue somewhat by giving demons voice lines whenever they use skills, but it didn't really do much in the long run.
Compare that to Nocturne, DDS or Raidou where even two demons that have the exact same stats and attacks still felt unique due to different animations and audio snippets.
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Auto battle is so much faster! I should have tried it much sooner.
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>>205325027
holy shit you played this far without it? they pretty much EXPECT you to use it
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>>205324964
>didn't really do much in the long run.
tell that to my fucking ears

they can take their every fucking thing in the game being voiced and fuck right off
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>>205324964
Also I should mention that SJ is not immune to this criticism either, but it suffers from the issue of sameness less due to having a smaller cast of demons to choose from.

>>205325156
[Insert YHVH voice clip here]
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>>205325027
>mfw going through the Diamond Realm and Heroine's mind without auto battle
Holy shit anon you must have the patience of a fucking monk. I can't imagine going through SMT1 without auto, especially with the encounter rate
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>>205325027
>>205325120
also i think that if you hold down A while in autobattle, it actually speeds it up a little
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>>205325027
You'll fit in well here. Really liking the playthroug by the way
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Speaking from a purely narrative and writing perspective here, do you think the addition of the content added in the mainiax release of Nocturne added more to the story or added to many weirdly explanation that border on fanfiction levels of bullshit?

On one hand it adds some background on elements to previous elements that were left extremely vague such as Hikawa's background, Lucifer's role in all of this, and how the world works a bit.

However there are some other aspects that feel pretty poor or with bad explanations. By adding it the reasons that made the original game so distinct from the other game's alignments system are made sort of irrelelvant as now there was a true "alignment" route for players to choose. Another sort of weird aspect is how pointless the info about Hijiri is. No information given about him really adds to the story of Nocturne or any other games. Even if he truly is Aleph does it matter? It sort of feels like a pointless callback.
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>>205322426
Sweet.
Y'know, I think the MTII protagonist is probably one of the most badass of the series. I mean, he gets his arm chopped off and just kind of rolls with it. Plus he's one of only, like, two people to kill YHVH at his full power.
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>>205325156
The problem isn't even that everything is voiced it's that the voices get annoying as fuck since they repeat so often. In Noctunre each demon other then some of the more non human ones had distinct voices and such which was cool. In IV and IV:A the voices get annoying because you hear the same few sound clips every minute in battles.
>>205325287
Demon's never really felt samey to me in SJ, what do mean exactly? Do you mean skills wise? I would agree but only really by end game when you're trying to put almighty skills and such on your demons.
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>>205325726
He has a top tier design too. His fucking caoe and cybernetic arm are cool as fuck.
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>>205326015
basically any fairy or demon with the high pitched voice went into the trash immediately

The only good thing about it is getting to hear Odin's angry yelling whenever you wanted
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>>205326015
>Do you mean skills wise?
I'm more talking about their roles within your party in general. In IV and Apoc specifically, because of the sheer number of demons available to you, they very quickly stopped feeling like distinct entities and started feeling like "healer", "support" and "damage-dealer" things.
I felt the same way about demons in SJ as well but as you said, that was mostly due to how things worked by end-game where you basically ended up putting either powerful phys skills or powerful almighty skills on everything except for your supports. Demons in SJ did at least feel like they had some distinctiveness though.
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>>205326247
Yeah the few demons with original lines were great. Hearing Krishna laugh or the flute sounds for his skills was great.
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>>205326409
To be fair I think that is basically true of all SMT games. Players often will give demons one of three roles you said. I think in IV/IV:A it might just be more apparent since it's much easier to not only make the demons with the skills you want but to make the demons have so many optimal skills since they can carry eight. SJ I feel really only gets sort of bad near the end but even then since every demon can only have six skills you are forced to consider skills more carefully. For example, when making a demon meant to deal damage do you want to add multiple damage skills for it to be able to hit for multiple weaknesses or do you want to add plemoras and maybe have the demon only be able to attack using one specific element? It creates a bit of a strategy I felt.
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In a very short timeframe I found Jesus (why aren't you in heaven?) Stephen (how did you survive?) and Astolfo.
He wants to fight me, should I? I could also check out the place where Jesus wants me to disable Robocop or something.
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>>205326205
Exactly. I'm surprised more SMT characters don't have cyborg arms, honestly.
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>>205326205
>kaneko will never draw him in his newer style
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>>205327002
I honestly don't remember if the police station is required or not. That being said take a right to hit ginza. Save and blow you cash load on gear (lmg for hero if you have 50k)
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Turned out Astolfo was joking and warned me about the area behind him.
So I went to Ginza first and found him.
I like him, asking the right questions at the right time.
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>>205322426
What is this game?
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>>205329181
kyuuyaku megami tensei
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>>205329484
Didnt knew its a top down perspective.
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I found this weapon shop, what should I buy? I have 2 Spas12 at the moment.
He also has some new bullets, should I keep the Nerve Bullets?
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>>205329604
only on the overworld
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>>205329717
Nerve bullets best bullets.
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>>205329717
Depends, does he have magic bullets? Magic bullets are the best bullets in the game, they inflict charm on enemies meaning they will fight each other.
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>>205330158
No, he has Nerve, Cursed, Blessed, Silver and Uranium.
I decided to buy a Browning and moved on.
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>>205330692
Browning sort of sucks, it's a high risk high reward gun. It has bad accuracy and how many targets it hits is weird, it can hit zero enemies or it can hit up to eight enemies.

If you want a guide on items maybe look into this. It's kind of bullshit that items have no description.
http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Shin_Megami_Tensei_Items
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Discuss
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>>205331697
I have an accuracy of 43 with the Browing right now, thanks to my speed. I'll just have to give it a try.
And yeah it's really unfortunate that there are no descriptions.
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>>205331697
It's all or none. It either hit everyone or no one. I remember almost never missing as my hero had sky high (literally in the 30s) by the time I hit ginza.
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>>205332694
The guide on game faq has a section just for weapons. I suggest reading it before you buy guns.

Hero should be vitality speed anyways so you should almost never miss
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>can't sacrifice fuse favorite fiends because they need certain moon phases
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>>205292626
Living proof that you don't actually need friends
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>>205332703
Sorry then, I thought it meant between 0 to 8, not 0 or 8.
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Which magatama have the best skills for demifiend?
Should I keep a regular one?
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>>205335234
A regular what? Magatamas are a little confusing but the thing to keep in mind is that you can only learn their skills at or beyond a certain level.
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>>205335234
the wiki has all the magatama and their skills, although a few of the level requirements for the skills are wrong

I don't know what you mean by keep a regular one but you can switch between them all at will
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>>205335598
>>205335567
I mean normal magatama without weak/null effects, first on the list.
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Is this the police station?
I'm not sure if I'm right here.
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>>205335760
yeah you keep it forever, not like you can lose it or anything

The final skill will be a ? and can't be learned until you finish the amala labyrinth and not going into the final dungeon before doing so
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>>205335834
Police station is what would have been straight at the 4 cross roads where right was ginza. Go back to ginza and backtrack. Take a right in the tunnels.
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>>205336217
Oh, I know where to go then.
Thanks.
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So with the new story content in Strange Journey Redux, is it all in addition to what's already there or do they attempt to integrate it into the existing plot?
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>>205337214
Also curious
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For the guy who was worried about the new sub-app that makes alignment not matter for the protagonist's co-ops, you're only able to enter the floor of the womb that you get the app on when you get Unlock C, which is right before Maya.
>>205337214
I've only just reached Horologium so I can't speak for the whole game, but so far the only intermingling has been Alex attacking you, Zelenin, and Jimenez a few times throughout the sectors. Zelenin also references her in her dialogue once, but it's nothing significant.
The new dungeon, however, is technically integrated into the main game because each floor has demons of a somewhat equal level to a sector (first floor is about equal to Bootes, for example), making it pretty boring if you decide to leave the dungeon for later.
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didn't know this could even miss

nothing else he uses fucking does
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>>205341870
>Kramer is too strong to be distorted by time
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>>205341094
Thanks for the info. So they handled it similarly to the added stuff in Nocturne Maniax. Still debating on whether or not I want to pick the game up, I don't really like anything I've heard about the story additions or art changes, but might be worth it for the new gameplay.
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>>205342307
If only

this is always followed by a regular attack that will not miss so rip
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>>205278340
Strange Journey, having fun fucking around with demon sources now that i've unlocked fusions and can start exploring down.
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Is he worth 45 hee hos?
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>>205344972
Just make one by yourself.
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>>205337214
>>205338856
It adds to the main plot, and changes its context. If you don't do the bonus stuff the endings don't change much though.
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Does anyone know what's different in 1.1 version of SMT2 for PS1? I hear it's hard to track down and the signature sign of it is the "Press Any Button" on title screen being gold instead of white like in 1.0
Supposedly 1.0 version is buggy and 1.1 fixes that, but I can't find any info on what are those bugs supposed to be.
Anyone got any idea?
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>Playing Nocturne
>Fuse an Onkot with Focus and Life Gain
>Eventually evolves into Hanuman and also learns Life Surge
>I now have a Wu Kong with 634 HP capable of oneshotting every random ecounter with Hassoappa and absolutely destroy every boss not immune to physical skills
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>>205351273
Wu Kong is really useful in Nocturne. You can easily set him up to be a buff machine, he has plenty of HP, and he eats turns when enemies use phys and light/dark attacks. He stayed in my party throughout the entire game.
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>>205351273
>not going full way and also getting life bonus to make a rape monkey with 700ish hp
do you even chaos?
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>>205313658
Does it really matter? Cu is the one who appears in every game now.
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Shin Megami Tensei V
>The game is developed as a hybrid between the "profound charm" of Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne and the demon-raising gameplay in Shin Megami Tensei IV
>"profound charm" of Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne
What is this means exactly?
Never played Nocturne.
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>>205355729
Play it and find out.
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>>205355807
Nah, thanks, dont like it.
I prefer DDS.
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>>205355729
>demon-raising gameplay in Shin Megami Tensei IV
>When demons in IV learn 3 skills at most by level up and rarely evolve
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>>205355729
It means it will have the AAA quality of Nocturne, but the streamlined demon mechanics of SMT4.
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>>205356060
>dont like it
>but never played it
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>>205356235
Pretty sure it means the completely controllable skill inheritance which makes demon fusion autism have more depth than ever.
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>>205356060
How can you dislike a game you've never played? How can you KNOW that you dislike a game you've never played? What kind of ass-fuck logic is that?
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>>205356235
>no stat caps
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>>205353607
Tam Lin was in both IV and IVA though, he was also in both DeSu games but Cu Chullain had a different art in though, the weird thing was that he still had the same design, just different art
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>>205359242
>Tam Lin was in both IV and IVA though
Now name three games that Cu Chulainn missed.
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>>205360295
Persona 3
SMT II
Jackie Chan
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What's the point of the Frost Five? Both forms of Manitou can murder them (it?)
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>>205361516
Exactly.
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hey /smtg/, a while ago I was emulating smt1 on my phone but the dumb thing died and I lost my save. At that point I was at the huge sprawling cathedral place I think. Was I close to the ending or was there still a lot more to go after that part?
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>>205366050
That was the final dungeon. Maybe find a save file online near there, I think some anon put a save near there in one of the pastebins in the OP.
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>>205366050
It was THE final dungeon.
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So this game has no real plot and I just fight all the time and fuse my demons here and then, right? Not too familiar with these nip mobile games.
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>>205369935
>this game has no real plot and I just fight all the time and fuse my demons here and then, right?
Sounds like Nocturne
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>>205369935
Plot sort of just takes a back seat in mobile gacha games so dont go expecting it. Gacha is mainly for stupid stuff like seeing your favorite characters together and events
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>>205370037
>>205369628
Get yourself the progressive scan patch already, the interlacing is painful.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Megaten/comments/35ixub/pcsx2_progressive_scan_mode_patches_for_nocturne/
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>>205370313
It's fine.

Who the fuck is Fitomimi?
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>>205371113
Futomimi is the manikin guy that you saved from Kabukicho prison. He likes to hang out in his meditation shrine near the center of Asakusa
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Benefits of KMT over MT1 and 2 other than music and visuals?
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>>205347801
http://ゆめのしま.jp/shin2/shin2_bug.html
I'm not going to translate the whole list, especially since some of them really don't seem like bugs at all, but here are some of the big ones:
MC will get hit by all-targeting attacks twice unless there's a party member occupying the bottom right slot.
Debuffs hit your party equal to the amount of party members you have. So if you have 5 party members active, you get completely debuffed by one ~nda spell.
The game can randomly freeze during battle unless you're using auto battle.
The game can randomly freeze during conversation with demons.
The game can just randomly freeze anywhere (some examples being when entering towns, when opening the config menu, when a fusion accident occurs)
Saving can rarely destroy your memory card (makes it unreadable by the PS1)
If you're at full health when fighting Daleth, the game freezes.
You can't use physical skills when you have low MP even though they cost HP
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>>205371776
Some areas in the MTI side of KMT were made smaller and less confusing, not sure on the MTII side.
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The front row and backrow system sure made this fight an alignment true bitch.
>Justice is Immune to Agi,Bufu and I think Garu while hanging back outside of my Physfags range using AoEs that give it extra hits every so often
>Chariot is immune to all melee and has a fuckload of HP,so much so that at lower levels I kept running out of MP before it died
>That faggot Justice also casts Hamon once in awhile to fish for that free death

at least it made me grind/10
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>>205329181
megami tensei 2
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>>205371829
Thanks a lot man, I've been desperate to find a changelog for what was changed.
Would you also happen to know where I can find the 1.1 version? Emuparadise only has 1.0
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>>205374805
There used to be a link in one of the OP pastebins, but I don't see it anymore. I don't know if I'm blind or it got taken down.
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>>205371776
There are a few additions, e.g. Zeus and other Greek gods were added. Refer to the megami tensei wiki page for KMT.
>music and visuals
The music is way better in the Famicom version. The visuals in KMT are arguably better, but I don't like what they did to stuff like character portraits.
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How do I recruit Sword Knight in KMT2? I have Sylph in my party and I walk up to the tile that has the dialogue about him, but nothing happens.
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>>205375536
>The music is way better in the Famicom version.
Only for MT2.
MT1 sounds MUCH better in KMT.
The reason MT2 sounds worse in KMT is because the NES original of MT2 used a rather expensive additional audio chip by NAMCO.
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>>205376447
Never mind, I'm retarded.
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>>205374805
https://mega.nz/#!OIlR3bgY!GsDy0hokV6Y4qf3PahbL3rlOmTJ19He6XEv6NPNPAYc
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>>205377521
Uhm
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>>205377936
I found it on fireden in the original thread where I've downloaded it from. It works with ePSXe just fine.
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>>205379227
Do you launch from bin or cue? Maybe it's because I use the cue?
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>>205372457
>posting porn scripts to OverGoogle HQ
madman

Tell me you're using the texthooker version and not copypasting; chiitrans works great between this and ATLAS.
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>>205369935
Plot is absolutely forgettable, ive started skip it very fast, but people who follow it say that its more Persona than SMT.
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>>205369935
>playing gachapon shovelware trash
Neck yourself
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Why did they have to put in tiles with holes that make me fall down a floor? What's the point, other than wasting my goddamn time?
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>>205380516
>other than wasting my goddamn time
That is the point. To piss you off and also whittle you down by making you walk and run into more enemies that slowly but steadily take your hp/mp/items.
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>>205380516
>What's the point, other than wasting my goddamn time?

There is no "point" to dungeon crawlers aside from time wasting between the short plot segments. They are popular with people with autism since the routine of doing the same number based thing over and over calms them. That's who they were designed for.
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>>205366462
Here is said savefile (Neutral route, I believe). Needless to say, it is for the SNES version:

https://mega.nz/#!VxE2BA6Q!eVuarmxOrR_pFtGKOC-CJqjUcLEtmzOACQ6ks2TzhpE

>>205202727
Add to pastebin?
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>>205380605
>>205380635
Is that shit also present in SMT1&2?
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>>205318659
>tfw know cute girl who likes mainline
>she's dating a glasses wearing nigger with a mustache
It's painful.
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>>205381243
It's in all the mainline first person crawler games.
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>>205381328
C-cool.
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>>205381407
No? She's if anything the neutral heroine. Except in this case its because the represents the "indecisive" aspect of neutral, more than its ideology.
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>>205381407
No, Nocturne doesn't have traditional law/chaos routes or representative.
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>>205381523
You will have so much fun with Lucifer's Funhouse in SMT2.
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>>205381706
>Lucifer's Funhouse
Good times.
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>>205381407
No she's just retarded.
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>>205370313
Wow I didn't even know this existed until now. Can't believe how good the game looks with this patch and that dumb blur filter turned off too. Looks like it's incompatible with the rebalance mod though.
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>>205381887
>Looks like it's incompatible with the rebalance mod though.
It is compatible, you just save it as the same CRC of the rebalance mod's iso.
You can check the CRC in PCSX2's log when it loads the game.
So say it's CRC=URAFAGET
You need to then make a new .pnach called "URAFAGET.pnach" and put the code in there.
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>>205382003
Awesome, thanks for the help.
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>>205381839
Just like me.

>>205381596
>>205381576
When game will be branch out toward the different endings?
I'm chasing Sakahagi at this moment.
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>>205382116
Remember NOT to use native resolution multipliers with the patch, because it will cut it in half but still take the performance hit if you do that.
That patch is basically exploiting PCSX2's renderer for custom resolutions, so use the custom resolution function and input your desired resolution, for example 1920 1080
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>>205382125
It's actually right after you get the item that Sakahagi has and you give it to her. She asks you two questions, and if you respond "I'm afraid" to both of them, then you get the standard demon ending. But if you say "I'm not afraid", then you get the "neutral" ending.
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>>205382125
The game doesn't decide what ending you are on til you enter the final level. But things before then effect it.
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>>205379293
Actually, wait. Anon who uploaded his rip re-uploaded it as ISO, and that's the version I have. Sorry for not double-checking.

https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/142096879/#142102610
https://mega.nz/#!eJNhgayb!rEg7BcTEXLb6HYXgaPsV_6PGJM-OCTkJoMHe3gIaKq8
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>>205382838
Thank you, that bin/cue is definitely broken. Even Daemon tools doesn't recognize it as a valid disc.
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Can I do anything with a spare Incense that no one can use anymore, other than sell it?
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Can anyone with a real PS2 test the 1.0.1 version of the DDS1 undub on real hardware?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Megaten/comments/7x0utv/digital_devil_saga_1_undub_v10_release/
I confirmed that it works on PCSX2 and PS3, but my only real hardware tester claims it's not working on his real PS2 but I've reason to suspect he's doing something wrong so I'd like someone else to test on real hardware.
I can link prepatched ISO if need be, I just need a volunteer willing to help.
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>>205383743
Who cares. Undubs are for weaboo faggots anyways.
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>>205383743
>not wanting English Gale and Cielo
Useless patch
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>>205379889
>chiitrans
That shit crashes every time I try hooking it to the EraAnchor.exe thing
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>>205383743
I remember trying an Udub patch before on my PS2 (Using Swap Magic disks) and the game crashed at a cutscene, dont remember which one tough (But it was one of the first 2 tribes you visit, the female and fatass leaders).
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>>205286159
>We're closer to 2020 than 2015
>People after 2000 are getting legal
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>>205383743
Why do you want to play undubbed so badly?
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>>205387145
This is a new one that's done properly unlike the old one.

>>205387436
Because I'm not an Amerimutt EOP.
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>>205384434
Try calling people weebs in generals that don't have japanese symbols in topic.
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>>205386740
Which one are you using?
And you're not supposed to hook it but set to observe clipboard, the game is set to copy to it by itself.
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>>205387849
Oh I see. I tried both ChiitransLite and Chiitrans2 and they both crashed when I tried hooking it. Got it now. You can't inject the clipboard text into the game though huh?
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>>205387537
>Because I'm not an Amerimutt EOP.
Then play the Japanese version.
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>>205388648
Japanese and English aren't the only languages in the world, EOP.
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>>205389356
Yes they are.
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Kill your friends boyo and post more Dagda
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>>205390048
>implying dadga can laugh
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>>205390604
Doesn't he laugh in schadenfreude in at least one part of IV:A?
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>>205390604
The first thing he does after you choose Massacre is laugh
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>>205388534
Why would you need it, isn't the only thing that needs raw text naming people?
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>>205391212
On the subject of Massacre, how different is that route from Bonds? Do you still need to crawl your ass through YHVH's realm?
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>>205391543
Man poor Nanashi, that outfit killed his credibility.
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>>205391798
>Nanashi
>credibility
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>>205391543
Yeah you still need to do the same bosses and record scratch's universe.
Differences are you only have one partner, you still have that messiah skill but Flynn doesn't follow you outside of battles in the last dungeon to save your ass from enemies, the last battle's guest party is just Flynn and Satan instead of all four Samurai and of course some dialogues and the ending cutscene.
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>>205391798
Nanashi never had any credibility.
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>>205383743
I've got a softmdoded PS2 (Fat hard drive method), so if you still don't have your answer I could try it for you.
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>>205394871
I actually have an answer now, PS2 is anal about the way one of the archives is repacked, so we'll need to modify our repacking tool for that. But it works fine as is on PCSX2 and PS3.
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>>205391798
He makes makesfiend look buff, he never had credability. Flower-kun at least looks fashionable as fuck.
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>>205395052
>low res Flynn
rude
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>>205395052
Man I love Aleph. Everyone's always going on about >muh space marine/Demi-fiend/Hero but I never see Aleph get any attention.
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>>205395052
Nanashi looks best as a trap.
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>>205395052
>Flower-kun at least looks fashionable as fuck.
You know he's likely to lose the flower print suit in the first 5 minutes of the game, right?
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>>205396008
Fuckboi Nanashi didn't lose his jumpsuit and they said the only reason Demifiend didn't have outfits is because they ran out of time and resources to add them.
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>>205396280
The game still had changeable outfits though, and it's likely V will as well.
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>>205396654
It didn't, it had unlockable NG+ exclusive model swap to his model from the prologue, which has no tattoos and thus isn't an outfit because it's literally just a model swap.
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I'm fucking done, fuck your bullshit old man
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>>205400283
>kagutsuchi phase: DEAD
oh fug :DDDD
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>>205395608
Aleph comes from probably the least popular of the mainline games in English. His design is good but it doesn't stand out exactly I feel. I guess the long hair and goggles but with the goggles they're kind of goofy looking. I liked the goggles in his original art more actually.
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I'm playing Devil Survivor and genuinely stuck on my choice of route. Which is best for a first playthrough? I think the only ones I don't want to do is Atsuro's and Yuzu's. Are there any that are particularly shit/not shit?
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>>205403581
Oh, I'm on Overclocked, if that matters.
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>>205403581
Yuzu, Naoya and Amane are the only ones with 8th days so if you want more to do pick one of those

Gin's is the only one that's genuinely awful to play so anything else is good enough
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>>205404024
Oh, I was leaning towards Gin. Why is that?
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>>205404380
it's exactly the same as Atsuro's except you lose all your demons for the final boss
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>>205404491
Oh, that's dumb as hell. I'll probably do Naoya's and then do his on NG+, then.
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>Party for Elizabeth consists of Messiah, Ubelluris, Anubis and Dionysus
>Used up my two only High Counter skill cards already
>Need two more for Anubis and Dionysus
>Realize there is no way for me to obtain more High Counter cards because I can't obtain Siegfried
>Realize I need to put High Counter on these two the traditional way
>Realize I need to re-fuse Anubis and Dionysus by re-rolling for 4 specific skills, and then grind them back to level 99 and max their stats
Just kill me now.
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>>205405191
>that image
why
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>>205405191
>skill cards
Kill yourself P3P shitter.
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anyone have a high res image of jp smirk with text?
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>>205406727
I'm afraid this is the best there is.
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>>205407190
thanks anon. i was hoping someone would have ripped it from the game like the portraits i already have.
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>>205396008
>implying the best armor in the game won't be the ultimate flower suit
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>>205379227
Man it's a shame the PS1 versions of the game will never be translated, they sound and look MUCH better
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>>205411537
The encounter rates are reduced too.
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>>205411537
Reminder this was a thing once but got abandoned
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>>205411845
i did this too, it's fairly easy

getting VWF support into it is an entirely different story
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>>205412720
That had custom font inserted
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>>205412770
VWF is an entirely different thing, you pretty much have to modify the text routines entirely
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>>205395608
Personally I hate his redone disign. His 90s artwork is awesome. It doesn't help he probably has the worst mainline game overall.
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>>205413048
You could do what they did and cheat with a double-letter font.
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>>205413190
the obvious disadvantage of this is that there's obviously no lowercase letters here
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>>205413474
Obviously.
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>>205413474
That's not really a problem, you only need to cheat with item names and such. For dialogue you can just add extra text windows like Gideon did with SMT2 (which doesn't have VWF).
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trying to complete the strange journey compendium. no one can do this shit without a guide, right?
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>>205415264
There are over 300 demons, I can't imagine doing that without a guide.
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What is the best combat theme in all of megagays and why is it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3LupjaBGmo
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>>205415672
>he didn't post any variant of Death Match
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Playing eraMegaten right now, could someone summarize this question for me? Looks like it was left untranslated
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I recently started Devil Survivor Overclocked and am feeling mild anxiety.
Wendigo was pretty fucking strong, and the sheer volume of conversation choices is scaring me, does every little thing i say to people alter stuff? Trying to keep my options open for now until the best path reveals itself.
When there is a lot of people to talk to, the game seems to be giving me enough time to talk to them all, does it matter who goes first? Can i have a dummies intro to whats going to fuck me up in this game? It feels like "SMT does Disgaea"
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>>205416879
>SMT does Disgaea
You're such an unbelieveable pleb that you actually think DisgayA invented SRPG, like, you're the dumbest person I've seen today.
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>>205417086
I more meant with the relative short length of the main game encouraging NG+ runs, and multiple endings with scope for endgame grinding out the ass.
But you can assume i am whatever you want, if it pleases you.
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>>205417307
>I more meant with the relative short length of the main game encouraging NG+ runs, and multiple endings with scope for endgame grinding out the ass.
>What is Ogre Battle
You're not helping your case.
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>>205417501
Because Ogre Battle is similar to Disgaea... im not allowed to compare Overclocked to Disgaea?
I dont play a lot of SRPGs so i havnt played Ogre Battle but your argument seems kind of strange to me regardless. I only played Disgaea 2 recently, thats why it came to mind.
So... do you have any tips for me on the time limit and speaking with other characters? I just beat wendigo and got demon fusions.
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>>205418098
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/3ds/997806-shin-megami-tensei-devil-survivor-overclocked/faqs/67966
ctrl+f sx203
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>So this is the reincarnation of the goddess, huh?
>A beautiful nocturne shall be played for our truly reincarnated goddess.
>This was truly a strange journey
>Let's survive, devils.
>Let's overclock, surviving devils.
>Together, we will all become record breakers!
>Even those who sin in innocence deserve eternal punishment.
>Hey Heat, have we become... avatar tuners?
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>>205416879
Try not to worry too much. Dialogue choices don't have too much impact, and the people with routes become pretty obvious as the game progresses. Feel free to skip all of Honda's events after you first meet him, but be sure to save that singer chick when the time comes, or else you get locked out of most routes.
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>>205418480
mudo
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>>205418845
>Null: All
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>>205418480
>we really were the shin megami tensei: devil summoner: raidou kuzonoha vs the souless army
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>>205278340
Just finished Strange Journey for the second time a few days ago. First playthrough was Law, this time was Chaos. I'm starting on IV but I'll probably play it along with Strange Journey Redux when it comes out or leaks because I can't into moonrunes enough to play Deep Strange Journey.
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>>205377334
That was really fast. Is that the power of American shipping?
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>>205418471
Oh, ok. Forgive me for trying to talk about SMT in /smtg/, i wont do it again. Sorry bro.
>>205418527
Thats reassuring, thanks buddy. I was planning on looking after her because i like punk bitches, good to know i was on the right track. I always seem to end up on the hardest routes in SMT games and i think this ones going to kick my teeth in. I loaded a save in SJ and went chaos instead of neutral becuse i was so scared of getting fucked. Then felt like shit when i saw the ending. I beat 4A the tougher way though, was happy with that, Satan is such a baller.
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>>205418098
>Because Ogre Battle is similar to Disgaea

But, did Ogre Battle not come before, so isn't it the other way around? Besides. I think you're thinking of Tactics Ogre, which is also older than Disgaea.
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>>205419632
Tactics Ogre is the localized name of Ogre Battle.
The series is known as Ogre Battle in Japan and was also in the west before they relocalized it as Tactics Ogre.
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I spontaneously decided to get my hair cut today, and told the barber to give me eyebrows like the main character from SJ.
Girls were openly laughing in my face on the bus ride home. I'm just going to shave them off and not leave my apartment until they grow back.

T-thanks Kaneko.
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>>205419907
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>>205415384
also, i forgot where the alignment lock happens. when should i start going for side-quests?
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>>205419428
Yeah, I ended up going down the hardest route in DeSu 1 and my pleb ass barely got through it, but I managed. Currently playing DeSu 2 and it seems I've had the misfortune of going down the hardest route yet again. Not that I mind.
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>>205419632
I have no idea. The only Disgaea i have played is 2, and i havnt played any Ogre-whatever the other guy mentioned. Im not usually an SRPG fan, i just like SMT. I played Fire Emblem Path of Radiance on the GC and got totally fucked up, so i put that shit on easy. Come to think of it almost every SRPG game i have played barring D2 beat me up pretty bad.
I dont think any of this changes the point though.
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>>205419826
>Tactics Ogre is the localized name of Ogre Battle.
You should probably go recheck your facts on that.
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>>205419907
>told the barber to give me eyebrows like the main character from SJ
That's one hell of a barber if he knew what you were talking about.
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>>205420823
one googled image on their phone solves many problems
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>>205420519
It's true. I'm reading it on Hardcore Gaming 101 right now.
>Tactics Ogre, originally known as Ogre Battle in Japan, also as Ogre Battle: Battle For The Swamp in European releases [...]
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>>205420953
No
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>>205420953
>Ogre Battle: Battle For The Swamp
What, did /v/ write this shit?
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>>205419826
I didn't actually know that considering the other games Ogre Battle 64, and March of the Black Queen are still just called Ogre Battle, while Tactics Ogre seemed to be the exception but I guess it makes sense you would want to change the name for localization reasons because they do play different.
>>205420387
You may want to consider the PSP version of Tactics Ogre called "Let us Cling Together", that is if your interested, though it can be rather hard. It has L/N/C like SMT too, and there's some Tarot Card mumbo jumbo.
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>>205416092
It's just asking you to confirm you selection, if you're asking who you chose, considering the female options are Mari and Midori, the male options are probably Keisuke and Kaido, and judging by the filename, you picked Kaido
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>>205421461
Don't take his ramblings as fact. Tactics Ogre is Tactics Ogre in Japan and the US. It's literally written in English on the SFC box.
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>>205421712
Well fuck, guess I'm too gullible.
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Playing Soul Hackers right now, the game said that if the animal has a symbol next to their name, it means I can recruit them, but almost none of the enemies actually have this symbol, did I miss something?
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>>205419907
I don't want you to feel any worse, but I mean... His eyebrows are rather strange.

Heh, get it? Strange?
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>>205422578
I do not comprehend.
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>>205422564
>animal
fuck I meant enemy
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>>205422578
I see woman with fucking zigzags as eyebrows, or equally stupid shit like half-circles or thick rectangles. I don't think these are too odd.
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>>205422856
Maybe they were laughing because they knew he was imitating Strange Journey
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>>205422856
They're not that odd, but they don't really seem like something very natural. They're kinda like Dio Brando's eyebrows, more exaggerated than normal. Most people may not be able to pull off that look.
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https://www.amazon.co.jp/%E9%87%91%E5%AD%90%E4%B8%80%E9%A6%AC%E7%94%BB%E9%9B%86I-%E5%BE%A9%E5%88%BB%E7%89%88-%E9%87%91%E5%AD%90-%E4%B8%80%E9%A6%AC/dp/4775315862/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1518740468&sr=8-1&keywords=%E9%87%91%E5%AD%90%E4%B8%80%E9%A6%AC%E7%94%BB%E9%9B%86

Might interest someone here, Kaneko Works 1 is getting reprinted. However Kaneko Works 4 and 5 were of a worst quality then the original 1-3 and this reprint of Kaneko Works 1 might be the same inferior quality.
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>>205423310
People just basically wish they could look like a JoJo character, but no one is as charming or as charismatic as Lord DIO
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Time to break into the police station.
Only because a ghost told me so.
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This place is full of angry robots, trapped chests, darkness and tiles where you fall down.
Kinda similar to normal police stations, really.
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>>205426185
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orHrAEU-W84
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I found a friendly man and he laughs a lot!
He must be in a good mood.
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His plan is to kill humans and demons alike. I think he secretly wants a robot waifu but is too embarrassed to be seen with her.
I killed a few robots he sent to kill me while he fled.
And now I have a fight against this green face.
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>>205419907
Dont worry anon, i once sported the mad dog haircut
Funny enought i looked good in it but it was a pain in the ass to not feel weird
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>>205429269
Now i see what was wrong with SMT IVs.

Having to fight robots using a party of demons is cool as fuck.
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Lilim is great, I think she will stay in my group for good.
I'm not sure if it is good or bad game design to have bosses be controlled like this.
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>>205419907
>cutting your eyebrows
Well, that's what you get for being a faggot.
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I love these huge exp gains, it was a good decision to go here first.
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>>205430179
You think the character's are natural? That boy's kempt.
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I just recruited this demon.
Any idea what Sabbatma does?
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>>205431776
Well in the new games a demon can summon other demons, not sure in this one.
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>>205431776
In SMTI sabbatama allows you to summon a demon without it costing you any MAG.
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I found this guy, do I want to go there or do I want to go to the place Astolfo mentioned?
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>>205433445
Do what you will.
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>>205433546
I roughed him up and now he wants to be my apprentice.
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>>205278340
Almost finished playing DDS1 with my wife. We're really enjoying it but are itching to get to 2 because it seems way more our speed
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>>205419907
Pls don't do shit like this
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>>205389356
>wants to hear japanese voices
>claims to not be EOP
>doesn't want to play the japanese version because he can't understand it
Are you retarded?
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>>205434589
Please, launch into DDS2 immediately after you finish 1. DDS2 picks up literally minutes after the conclusion of 1, slows the pace down a little bit then picks it right back up shortly after.
I also hope you two made the right dialogue choices.
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>>205434942
>I also hope you two made the right dialogue choices.
Not them, but what?
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>>205434589
>there are married anons in /smtg/

whoa, who's your wife's favorite character
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>>205435221
Specific dialogue choices in DDS1 and 2 will dictate certain things i.e the inheritance of certain spells or a certain character.
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Are the PlayStation versions of 1/2/if good? They look and sound way better but no one seems to acknowledge their existence.
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>>205436084
They are but the original releases of them have some nasty bugs and glitches. I believe all three had a "gold release" that fixes everything, you seen people talk about the SMTII one earlier in the thread. The only reason they are never mentioned is they're Japanese only.
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>>205436224
That's just SMT2. 1 and if only have one release and there are bugs but nothing serious.
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>>205436224
Couldn't they just take the translations from the Super Famicom versions of SMTI and II and apply them to the PS1 versions? I know it's a lot more complicated than that but it's possible, isn't it?
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>>205437498
Sorry for the misinformation then, I actually didn't know that, thanks anon.
>>205437532
I don't know how programming works but I imagine how the programming for the versions work is very different and it isn't as easy as a copy and paste job. Also the ps1 versions have "visionary items" that would need to be translated.
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>>205437532
It's possible but the translation isn't the difficult part.
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>>205437532
Programmer here: that'd still be quite the task. Usually the script translation is the easiest part of making a translation hack.
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>>205437775
>Also the ps1 versions have "visionary items" that would need to be translated.
That's the GBA versions, they aren't present in the PS1 versions
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>>205438182
Damn, guess there's a lot I didn't know about the other versions of the games. Sorry for the misinformation then.
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>>205436891
I miss the cool unconventional megaten protags. Flynn and Nanashi dont really look cool.

Guys like Serph, Raidou, Demifiend, Space Marine looks pretty cool and makes you want main them.

I guess Potter was okay too.
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>>205419036
God's Brath
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>>205438684
Are you talking design wise? I think Flynn, while not as good as the ones you listed, has a pretty good design. I think some people may not like the hair since it's such a Japanese style but I don't mind it.

Nanashi though really is just terrible. His original design is great but the final one is just not that impacting. At leats you can dress him up in other stuff, I just stuck him in a demonica and he looked much better since I didn't have to look at his stupid haircut.

Honestly I know this may be controversial but I think the DDS designs would lose so much appeal not being in Kaneko's style. They're more fairly typical with the colored hair and such but Kaneko's style I feel gives them a personality that they would lose in a more generic style. I guess you could argue that is true for any of Kankeo's protagonist but I feel it especially applies to the DDS cast. Doi's art for the SMTI-III protagonists was pretty good but I feel even though he's competent he wouldn't do the DDS cast as good.
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Oh, so that's what the Core Shields are for. I think I found one at the police station.
Not a lot to show right now, been running around and recruiting some new demons.
It's too bad that you can't level them up.
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>>205438684
I honestly prefer Flynn and Space Marine's designs over the rest, but i prefer the more generic protag becoming a badass kinda deal, rather then ones like Demifiend or Nanashi who are supposed to look intimidating, cool and badass before you've even done anything.
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Thor directly targeted civilians in a shelter.
Is he actually Chaos?
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>>205418480
It seems we were the IV Apocalypse all along
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>>205440097
you mean the Final IV right?
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I'm not sure if I agree with this.
Jesus didn't had a 10head.
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>>205332123
nice tracksuit. i wonder if he ever squatted.
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>Akasha Arts
>it's just an explosion instead of some cool kung fu shit
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Is there a secret to this room? I just get turned/teleported around, some are even traps where I fall down.
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Did you guys see the P3FES Controllable Party mod/cheat?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rS_YQ7wPhvY

Makes the game super easy (like P3P), but it's kinda nice.
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So, can anyone explain to me why raidou and dante are canon in the mainline series?
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>>205443987
I like to imagine it as punching them so hard they explode into a pile pf blood.

Friekugel is still my favorite ultimate move, cool animation amd it actually comes from mythology. Kind of a shame it was changed to riot gun in later games.
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>>205445443
Because they appear in Nocturne. I believe Dante is actually canon, maybe, but not sure on Raidou. Also each mainline is a different universe, just being canon in Nocturne doesn't mean Dante is in all SMT universes. Look at If... as another example. That game is canon to the Persona universe but that doesn't mean Persona is canon to all mainli e universes, just If...'s.
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>>205445912
it's originally Riot Gun from the first game tho
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So I just got the sub-app that makes alignment not matter for co-op and it's actually pretty much worthless. It's only for the protagonist, and it only works for co-ops triggered by demons. So if you're neutral and have a party of chaos demons and have your protag hit a weakness, there's no co-op. If you have two neutrals and one chaos demon, the chaos demon will only co-op with the protag when it hits a weakness.
The other two co-op sub-apps are much better actually. One that makes co-ops trigger even when the enemy dies from the hit, and another that makes co-ops trigger on crits.
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>>205446084
>dante ends up helping an autist destroy the world because lucifer told him that they need to tell god to fuck off
>thats his last canon apperance
Bravo kojima
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>>205446109
Friekugel is still cooler. It's a time where a localization name not only is good, but is genuinely better then the official name.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freischütz
>A Freischütz ("freeshooter"),[1] in German folklore, is a marksman who, by a contract with the devil, has obtained a certain number of bullets destined to hit without fail whatever object he wishes. As the legend is usually told, six of the magic bullets (German: Freikugeln, literally "free bullets"), are thus subservient to the marksman's will, but the seventh is at the absolute disposal of the devil himself.
If that isn't a great localization decision then I don't know what is. It sort of lives in Strange Journey too, sort of. The meteor dragoon get a unique attack called "Freischutz" which is cool.
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>>205447792
It's also great because Frei/Freila/Freidyne is the single-target counterpart to Megido/Megidola/Megidolaon in Persona 1.

Freikugel = Almighty bullet
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>>205446109
What first game? Freikugel/至高の魔弾 debuts in Nocturne.
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Why is there just a dude with no voice acting in the warehouse, he's not an important character or anything but the game forces you to talk to him
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Best girl.
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>>205450314
So are the spoilers true?
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If you wish to escape the depths of page 10, you must embrace the love of our lord YHVH
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what is the appeal of smt4 apocalypse, this game fucking sucks so far
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>>205453976
1. better gameplay
2. you can actually figure out where to go
3. the Messiah DLC
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>>205453976
gameplay is good and plot, characters, etc are the worst in a megaten game to date
also i suggest you to disable voice acting
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>>205419826
>Tactics Ogre is the localized name of Ogre Battle.
The just share the same artist, but its completely different games.
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>fighting kagatsuchi
>infinite light
>wipes entire party with max hp
welp you really can't let it ever use dekunda
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>>205446109
Wait so is the reason it scales off of strength but also isn't affected by phys resistance because it's actually a gun attack?
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What demons you want to have an important role in SMT V?

Choose 3 types to be in the game.

Story Important demon (Like a near final boss like DeSu 1 Belial or Nocturne Thor).

Semi relevant demon (Like one of those demons you need to defeat another demon or to needed to advance the story, DeSu 2 Trumpeter or Raidou 2 Mikabochi).

Trowaway boss fight (Like Apocalypse Titan or DDS Jack Bros).
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>>205458935
Story Demon: Athena
Really one of my favorite designs in Megaten and a perfect candidate for a late-game, story-relevant boss like Thor. Please don't give her a terrible redesign like Zeus.

Semi Demon: Old One
I would like to see more Lovecraft representation in mainline SMT (especially since Persona has more or less dropped all its Lovecraftian influences at this point). Most of his deities are too abstract to be properly represented without kind of undermining the whole story behind them in a game but Old Ones are basically a perfect fit for a minor plot point. Perhaps something like them experimenting on humans or something like that. The Old One could actually do for a redesign too it's really not Kaneko's best work.

Throwaway Demon: Friday
Cause I want more jokey, schlocky, barely legal horror movie references again.
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>>205441258
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>>205457230
it's a "Supreme Magic Bullet" according to Japan
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>>205449208
meant SMT 1
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>Virtue won't listen to a fucking word I say
>if I let him decide what to do, he just guards even though he's very capable of attacking from the back with his magic attacks
well fuck you too, buddy
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>>205436224
Only SMT2 has a 1.1 release, 1 and If... are fine.
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Is SMT1 for iOS worth getting?
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>>205463415
Nope, emulate SNES orden patched and then watch the visionary items on youtube.
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I know the data regarding SMT4:F's apocalypse difficulty, but do you think it's really that hard ?
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>>205465059
In War mode your skills literally miss half of the time even with 4 sukujakas on your party and 4 sukundas on the enemy untill you're like level 70
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>>205458935
>Story Important demon
Like >>205459972 said, it would be nice to have Athena have some sort of role in the story, even if for just a bit. Another thing I want to be revelant are Famed demons. It would be great to have some sort of "heroic" demon like Siegfried actively involved in the story.

>Semi relevant demon
I want Minotaur to come back somehow. I don't care how, even just a simple fusion-only demon would be fine.

>Throwaway Demon
I want a boss fight where an usually weak demon becomes very strong like the super Jack Frost from DDS2.
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>>205447792
It's only really good in context of Nocturne, though. On the rest of the games the move is Gun type, and Guns are weapons that are usually associated with Neutral, as mankind's creations to defend against aliens. Be those aliens baka gaijins or a small horde of jack frosts.
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>>205459972
>>205467662
You guys know full well that she'll be given a different, more convoluted design if she ever becomes an important demon, right?
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Nanashi a cute. Cute!
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>>205470207
The gates of Heaven are eternally closed for you.
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>>205470207
>mfw this photo was actually used for a Wikipedia article once
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>>205470207
At least post the original one.
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I wonder what Kaneko is doing right now.
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>>205474904
Drawing dicks
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>>205470207
Law was right
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>>205472051
Which article was it?
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Just got the railgun near endgame in SMT2. Holy shit, it just eats things alive. Is there going to be any challenge for the rest of the game?
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>>205458935
>story important
I really want Mem Aleph to appear again as I feel she has potential for an interesting neutral character.
>semi relevant
I guess just demons I like like Cu Chulainn, Sigfried, Black Maria and others.

Mastema is a must.
>Throw away
Maybe not even a physical appearance but refrences to really stupid shit from old games like DEAD-LOBSTER or Oliver would be funny.
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>>205477307
Mem Aleph is chaos, dude
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>>205472306
when did this became a thing?
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>>205471841
>>205476525
>law not being gay
>when most depictions of angels like cherubs are little naked boys with their dicks out
What did they mean by this?
>>205477041
Maybe Satan and YHVH due to instant death spells that are annoying.
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>>205477041
YHVH will eat you
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>>205477506
No, Mem Aleph is labeled as neutral anon, did you play SJ? She was involved with chaos but her actual alignment is neutral. She only cares about the protection of earth and takes whatever mean necessary to protect it, in the case of SJ this aligned with the desires of chaos demons so she aligned herself with.
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>>205477585
>Calls law gay
>One of the most prominent chaos demons is literally a giant dick that makes dick puns
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>>205474904
Flowers.
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>>205477879
All of SMT is gay dude, why do you think we have so many fujos? 75% or more of the porn is gay shit.
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>>205477815
That's makes a little more sense now that you've explained it. Yeah, I'd definitely love to have her back instead of Masakado
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>>205477815
And YHVH is labeled as Light-Law in SMT2. Don't trust Atlus.
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>>205478110
Yeah it is sort of weird but I think it shows an interesting aspect of neutral demons, they can be involved with law or chaos if it aligns to their needs.

And I agree on Masakado completely. I that he was a important figure in Japan and such but this series just sucks him off for no real reason. Why the fuck was he the strongest neutral demon in SJ?, why was presented as some god with complete control over Tokyo in IV and IV:A? Neutral deserves an actual rep that represents all of humanity. And for Japanese representation make it an actual Japanese deity like Amaterasu or Susanoo.
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>>205477506
>>205477815
>>205478345
Did you just assume their alignment you fucking shitlords?
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>>205478532
I think the reason they picked Masakado to be the strongest neutral demon is just because it's a game made by Japanese people so of course they're going to pick their own deities to be stronger. And as for a rep for neutral, I think that humanity as a whole represents the neutral alignment, especially since humans can interact and agree with both chaos and law just like you said
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>>205478717
Alignment is a SPECTRUM
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>>205478997
just like autism. coincidence?
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>>205479073
i think not
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>>205478997
Destroyer Slime is my favorite demon
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>>205381407
Widow-peak man is the law heroine.
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>>205478802
That definitely is why and it's understandable, of course a Japanese game cares most about Japanese figures. I guess what pisses me off is how weird SMT is with picking it's Japanese figures. Some of the bigger gods are represented like Amarterasu, Izanami, and Susanoo but there is a lot of weird and obscure stuff. There are so many cool Japanese figures with no representation, how the fuck has there never been a Kappa in SMT? Yet they say "Here, this new demon is the Japanese god of sniffing paint that not even Japanese people really know about, enjoy" while rejecting actually cool or important figures are left aside.
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In older games Kameko would often give demons weird skin colors despite being human like. It makes sense for some demons, like some Hindu demons, but for others it feels kind of weird. It seemed he stopped doing it by Nocturne, most demons who resembled human there were given real skin tones What do you guys think abput the choice?
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>>205480850
I wonder if part of the reason they initially did that is cause of the limited color palettes of older consoles. Kaneko actually used to draw the pixel art first and base his illustrations on that.
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>>205481421
My belief is maybe that they wanted to try to make demons more diverse and less samey by making their skin tones different.
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how's it going with Dx2, to the sons of man who have been playing it for awhile
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>>205468589
But Jack Frosts are Neutral.
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>>205483495
Neutral kills everything, and then claim to be the alignment of peace.
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>>205484217
Proof?
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hope Auto-Soma returns in 5
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>>205483412
One of the better mainline games in years. Hopefully some features inspire the SMTV devs.
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>>205485089
what kind of fusions does it have
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>>205440064
Nope, that's still a Law act if you're removing enemies of the lord. Now you know why Lawfags are considered hypocrites at best.
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>>205440064
It was for the sake of the greater good and for the glory of God's thousand-year kingdom, so how can it be wrong? Unfortunately, the nukes weren't enough to wipe out all the demonic filth. At least the civilians didn't have to witness the horrors of a post-apocalyptic demon-infested world.
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>>205391543
Battle wise, its pretty much the same except you only pick one partner to use for the rest of the game. The cutscenes are mostly different.
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>>205403581
Amane's is best overall. It has the most interesting eighth day content.
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>>205417501
Are you on the spectrum? There's no rule that says you have to compare something to the earliest version that exists.
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Ignore the rudeposter, son of man.
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>>205477585
>there are people on this general RIGHT NOW who don't realize that law is the gayest alignment.

Newfags get out. This isn't difficult. The alignments have tones and aesthetics. Law is feminine, and chaos is masculine. And this applies to both female and male demons. So law guys look more feminine, and chaos girls look more masculine. So law has the best boypussy. Chaos just has fukken masculine leather type gays.
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>>205489714
Chaos is feminine, look at the mothers from SJ.
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>>205491302
Mem Aleph is neutral, so the Mothers are neutral too by default
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>>205489714
>Law is feminine, and chaos is masculine
But Femme is a Chaos race.
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>>205491302
That doesn't correspond to the modern concept of feminine. It corresponds to associations that existed in the old world of considering the rational a male quality and the emotional a female quality. Those are archetypical depictions of those qualities more than they are actually masculine and feminine as beings. In terms of the actual presentation of figures on the side, law is more feminine and chaos more masculine. Which is why if you stop and think about it there aren't really many angels who look like they are overtly trying to show off a muscular body. They are either slender, or covered in armor or something if humanoid. The four main archangels are exceptions, but that's because their art hasn't been updated since before these associations were as strong.

Take oni. It shows up with lines in several games, because it looks like a generic violent masculine demon. You wouldn't really expect something that looks like this to be a main law figure.
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This may sound heretical, but I vastly prefer Persona 4!Amaterasu over SMT!Amaterasu in regards to design.

What alternative design to you favour over the original?
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>>205495427
SMT Amaterasu is a pretty boring design (and the Nocturne version might just be one of the worst and laziest in the franchise).

As for myself while I'm not a very big fan of most of the series' interpretations of Nyarlathotep like the Bloody Tongue or Haunter of the Dark but they completely and totally nailed the design of his "Black Man of the Woods" version. Genuinely my favorite design in the franchise. So of course it never got used.
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>>205495427
I strongly disagree with that design looking good, but in regards to your question, I would say that I like P5's Loki better than the Loki designs we have. I just love the repetition of lines and it's reminiscent of Asherah
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>>205495427
P4 Amaterasu is one of the few Soejima Personas I think look decent. You are still a heretic though.
>What alternative design to you favour over the original?
Debisama Odin > Sentai Odin > original purple Odin
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>>205496651
To each his own I guess. Although I like that Loki as well: his hooves referencing is transformation into a horse for example.

Apparently, those garrish stripes are a special kind of camouflage used to masquerade a ships' movement, which really fits Loki.

>>205496618
>So of course it never got used.
What exactly is the source of that one? From one of the art books?
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>>205497551
Yeah, I believe it's from Kaneko Works Vol. 2
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>fighting Angel's final form
>my strongest attacks take only a couple hundred hp off
>but she can't really hurt me either
>very slowly but surely I'm on my way to victory
>about 2000 hp left
>the game fucking freezes
Fuck this shit. Just fuck it.
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>>205498313
My PS2 freezes all the time when playing DDS or Raidou. Never does that for any other games, including Persona 3. It's goddamn frustrating.
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>>205498313
>>205499010
Clean your laser.
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>>205499010
That was on ps3. And it was the first time it ever froze (the game, not ps3).
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>>205498313
She is highly resistant to Almighty. You're supposed to use multi-target spells and physical skills.
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>>205499251
PS3's PS2 emulator is very VERY volatile and is notorious for crashing in Nocturne, DDS and Persona 3.
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>>205496651
Loki has never had a good design in the series sadly, all of his designs are just shitty.
>>205497010
You are my nigga. SH Odin is fucking great but of course he waa used in one game only.

The fact that NINE Demiurge as well as Adam and Eve will never see another appearance kills me. At least Maria final came back again.
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>>205499349
Eh, it's safer that way. My Serph and Heat null elements, so 90% of the time her attacks don't do shit, and even Reincarnation doesn't kill anyone provided all the party has full hp. And besides, it seems killing the orbs only for her to regenerate them on the next turn will take as much, if not more, time. It's not a hard fight, just very tedious.
>>205499487
Well, like I said, that's the first time it froze, never happened with Nocturne or Raidou. I guess I was just lucky.
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>>205499727
>or Raidou
It's quite stable with Raidou and Persona 4.
It's the Nocturne/DDS/Persona 3 that it hates.
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>>205499640
NINE Demiurge isn't being reused because it's the final boss.
None of the final bosses are reused in any later game. That's like bitching that Kagutsuchi doesn't get reused.
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>>205497010
Crap, I meant SH Odin. Looks like Debisama used the original design, as did the 3DS version of SH for some reason.
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>>205496618
Sorry but where is this used? I've never seen this version used before.
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Ya know those designs that seem to only ever be in Persona 1 and 2. It seems like very little of them actually have art in exception for Black Vishnu. Like does anyone know if there's actually any official art for Gozu-Tennoh from Persona 1? Or Airgetlam? Or fucking Arthur Pendragon? Because if there is, I can't find it.
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>>205500226
Read, son of man.
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>>205500063
YHVH was the final boss of three games, MTII, SMTII, and SMTIV:A. All the demons that serve as the SMTI final bosses appeared again. Even then that's a fucking stupid rule, if Mem Aleph and NINE Demiurge will never return because of a bullshit rule like that that is bullshit.
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>>205500290
There is for Satan at least.
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>>205500718
It just makes me angry that I will eternally only be able to see Bres' low res back for as long as I am alive.
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>>205500718
>>205500290
Who even drew the Persona 1 and 2 ones? Kaneko? If so, why the fuck isn't there an artbook for them?
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>>205437532
nope

i have to wonder if gideon would even allow a third party hacker to use his script, along with the edits orden made
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>>205501674
I know Kaneko drew some of them, but honestly, a lot of them don't really seem that much like Kaneko's style, specifically the ones that just don't really have any sort official art at all and really only exists as sprites in the game. They're so small it's hard to make out all of their details which makes me want to see art of them even more.
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>>205501138
Don't worry, you'll see Bres's front side in Persona 1-2: Dancing Never Ever
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>>205501138
Me too, but at least we can enjoy the fanart.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B6eaH-yZwLHaeTZpQ0xiN2Yyc0U
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>>205502104
It's probably a case like Majin Tensei where they were done by "Atlus Design Team (tm)" which is why no artworks. Same with stuff like Deep Dark Fan--- Strange Journey portraits.
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>>205502236
If you're gonna do that you might as well just upscale the original sprite with waifu for the same effect.
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>>205501674
There are I believe 2 artbooks called pandaemonium that have P1-2 stuff. Might just be one of them I’m not sure, it’s kanekos stuff though
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>>205503336
I know about the ones with Kaneko's art for main characters and the main personas, but I naturally mean the card persona artworks which don't have any books.
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I have some old persona 1 concept art, rough sketches of each main persona, if you guys want, will post next thread since I need to find it again.
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>>205504489
>>205504489
NEW CYCLE
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In Soul Hackers, is there any benefit to turning demons with max loyalty into items?
My Jack Frost requested I take him to Goumaden and now he wants me to turn him into a pair of Candy Boots.
What does it mean that children will always talk while I have the boots?




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