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>DCS: Do not buy M-2000C/NTTR and modules released AFTER those from steam(released after 12th May 2017), because you can't use them in stand-alone.<

>TeamSpeak
ts.artificialanimation.com:7997

>Falcon BMS Alternative Launcher:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9l8t2itS4vkOHAxa0tKdzI2aEk/view
Your pain setting up controls is over
https://i.imgur.com/R5bNpo7.png
https://i.imgur.com/l68Wzlm.png
https://i.imgur.com/ylhQnWD.png

>Falcon 4, BMS, SF2, real-life flight manuals and field manuals.
https://mega.nz/#F!r11BxCRC!nC2Rttjjx8WLqvPF-6SYKw
>US Army Manual Index
https://pastebin.com/m98ZrWpP

>Link to this OP text
https://pastebin.com/Tsc71yaf

>Steam group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/SimulationGamesGeneral

>Repository of various aviation related material
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0B3EQDvufMNdeTUh4SE9WV0txa0E

>Planes pastebin
http://pastebin.com/Zb0U61in

>Tanks pastebin
http://pastebin.com/EbdtnyPX

>Boat/Submarine pastebin
http://pastebin.com/JqTQWFFE

>Strike Fighters 2 For Dummies
https://pastebin.com/M5JQ2S7A


>Example of welcome games
>Flight Sims
Falcon BMS, DCS: World, Rise of Flight, IL-2, Combat Helo, Microsoft Flight Simulator, X-Plane, Enemy Engaged: Comanche vs Hokum, Strike Fighters X
>Driving Games
Assetto Corsa, rFactor 2, Live for Speed, Euro Truck Sim, Train Simulator, Farming Simulator 201X, DiRT Rally, OMSI 2
>Ground Sims
SAM Simulator, Steel Beasts Pro, Steel Armor: Blaze of War, Graviteam Tactics, Combat Mission
>Submarine Sims
Silent Hunter, Ship Simulator, Cold Waters, Dangerous Waters
>Misc Sims
Command: X, Swat 4

>Example of non-welcome games
Ácé Cómbát, Wár Thúndér, Wórld óf _____, Ármá 1-3, Thé Síms, Sím Cíty, Góát Símúlátór

>Extra attention grabbing search terms
/fsg/ /dcsg/ /fsxg/ /bmsg/ /shg/ /rofg/ /etsg/ /il2g/ /lfsg/ /tsg/ /cwg/
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first for dirty creaturas would go to hell to help zion
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>>211734893
>>>/pol/
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America #1

Putinshills and ASSadists on suicide watch
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2nd for
today's newspaper has been really bad
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>>211734893
This dumb propaganda whore thinks allies hit residential areas so much for being trustworthy lol
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>>211734949
>>211734946
>>>/hell/
remind you how does the attack help the average mutt that has to pay even for medical care and gets mugged by niggers at night
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>>211735042
t.drumpfgoblino
oh maybe because there's an actual apartment in flames?
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>>211735104
You sound upset abdul shilloshenko, why not go gas some more women and children to cheer yourself up and see what happens then?
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>>211735287
i stated the reality, that's backed up by proof and stats
what proof do you have of so called "gassings"
oh right some jew said it happened so you hurry in head first to do as yoru dick-mutilated masters commands

how peculiar
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>>211735179
no verifiable proofs as always from you desperate delusional regime supporting retards
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>>211735471
>no verifiable proofs as always from you desperate delusional regime supporting retards

are you talking about the chemical attacks, drumpftard?
you just signed about 20+ years of democrat government btw, kiss goodbye to your AR and your wall goblino you're fucked
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>>211734893
>>211735042
>>211735104
>>211735179
>>211735287
>>211735424
>>211735471
Please take this shit to >>>/pol/

This thread is for sims
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>average /simg/ guy cant navigate without f10
>also supports mr. drumpf
checks out
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>>211735682
this
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>>211735682
I agree, fuck off and shill your fake war elsewhere.
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>>211734442
>DCS: Do not buy M-2000C/NTTR and modules released AFTER those from steam(released after 12th May 2017), because you can't use them in stand-alone.<
Has anyone in existence been able pirate newest drm-less DCS dlc's from steam with creampie?
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>>211740373
I've never heard of it. Wasn't aware anyone would bother desu.
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>tfw cuckanon is lurking the thread and begging us to humiliate his autistic ass
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Somebody fire up SAMsim and shoot down some cruise missiles
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For me it's the T-34.
It's just a comfy tank and has decent ground clearance and is good for doing a little bit of this and that.
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So all it takes form /simg/ to rise up from the grave is a war in the middle east
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>>211744105
/simg/'s been pretty active throughout the week tbqh
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>ED releasing Persian Gulf map soon
Obviously they couldn't have seen this coming but they should have developed and released Syria map first, would really go well with the current events
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Anyone bought the Persian map? Considering it seeing as it's cheaper than what I thought it would be.
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>>211754392
If we get decent updates that fix all the major 2.5 issues before it is released, I might pre-purchase it just before it goes live
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>>211754392
I bought the Hornet on preorder, I won't have two preorders at the same time (also I have heard no estimated release timeline for SOH). The next question will be how quickly the size of DCS will grow as more terrains are released, and then an ability to fly between them if they are close enough together.
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>>211755145
>also I have heard no estimated release timeline for SOH
>Pre-Purchase the Persian Gulf Map now for $39.99 and save 20%! The price will increase to $49.99 at the end of May 2018.
I would imagine it's intended to be released at the end of May 2018 Just like the Hornet.
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>>211755520
That's a guess on your part (and they want you to make it). ED isn't even confident enough to use the word "release" or "available" for that "price increase" date.
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>>211735682
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>>211758530
>2000's gifs
Your coffin is waiting grandpa
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il2 box standard plane textures are pretty low res, i see they've implemented a 4k option, does anyone know if there's HD custom skins yet?
i used to have a simg skins folder but i lost it when i reinstalled the game..

also i dont remember if you can use them freely in MP or not
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Take that town!
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Surged too deep into hostile area
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>no retreat, hold the position until the tank company arrives
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>>211763389
Killer's perspective
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>tfw becasue of /simg/ bought f-15, su-27/33 and joystick
>tfw flown it few times on aerobatic server
i got memed by Top Gun into playing DCS and now im paying the price
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jerries counterattacking
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battalion leader leads the way
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>its an attack starts off well but goes horribly halfway through
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>>211765141
how taxing is this gravitem games stuff?
do you think an i5 will handle it?
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>>211765792
it's more RAM-taxing as far as I know
What I5 do you have?
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>jerry flamethrower tries to burn my tanks
with every meter i take of this village, things get spicier.
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>>211766130
3570k + 16gb ram
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>>211767084
I think you're good to go
what's your GPU?
You will still have to tone down some settings, though. Graviteam is pretty shit at optimizing their games
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>>211767296
i've got a 970 atm but im also having pc gremlins recently
so i might have to change some parts
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jesus christ these smoke animations are beautifully realistic
Wish graviteam was working with a newer more fluid engine. They would create wonders
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>>211765792
Got an i5 2400 and 4GB Ram. Operation Star runs fine on high settings, only if a ton of units are around the game drops fps. It's pretty stable considering that it's a Slav game.
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does Steel Beasts have a playerbase and how autistic are they?
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>>211775529
Yes
Yes
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>wake up
>remember SABOW still doesn't have T-72
>don't want to stay awake anymore, go back to sleep
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is cold waters still shit or did they improve the ai?
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>>211776862
No the AI is lot better now. Plus the South China Sea stuff comes out next week.
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>>211734442
Holy fucking lel, how much humiliation can you vatniks take before you neck yourselves? Putinlet is too chickenshit to do anything against anyone more powerful than Ukraine.
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>>211777726
Scalps must have some good penetration capability.
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>>211775529
Yes
Very
But size is tiny and no one here plays it on multi, so unless you're willing to group up with normies then its not worth it
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>>211777726
>chemical weapon storage near Homs
So where is the mass contamination and thousands of dead innocent civilians due to """chemical weapon""" leakage? Fuck off to /pol/, braindead sheeple.
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>>211779686
>>211777726
>pol =/= ptg
actual billion of dollars to destroy 3
THREE
chemical weapon facilities

cant wait for assad to actually gas someone with his underground stocks just for the keks

money well spent burgers, well done
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New heights have been reached in the ridiculousness of the IL2 forums with members demanding that those who bought the game be seen as investors and that 777 make all their financials public.

This is why nobody makes sims, because the user base for them is ultra-demanding and stupid - but they all think they are smart
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Been playing a bit of IL-2 online, lately. I still prefer the P-40 and MC 202
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I've had more success in both of those planes than I have in others. I'm not a big fan of the Mig, I have to say. It feels like it constantly wants to flip itself over
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The 109 is a popular plane, to be sure, but every time I fly it I feel it has the hardest time pulling out of a dive, almost like I'm hitting compressibility at times.
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Playing Single Player in IL2 yesterday and I actually saw 2 of the 109s from my flight fighting in the vertical. I was amazed... have they improved the ai in the last couple days?
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>>211786614
The 109 had bad issues with its control services at high speeds. Anything above 600kmh gets tough, and above 700 is tougher. Before a big dive, try setting the elevator stabilizer to -2 or around there
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Meanwhile, the P-40 is a terrible climber, but it makes up for it for diving like a madman and having impressive straight-line speed, while the 202 has peashooters, but it has insane performance and handling. I've found myself more able to work around those shortcomings than I have other planes.
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>>211786639
dont think so, maybe it's depends on the "experience" of the ai. it randomly picks from novice to ace
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>>211786819
That would explain why I faceplanted while trying to dive after a Spitfire today
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>>211786843
strangely enough the 202 doesn't suffer from control lock ups like the 109s at high speeds.

it does pick up quite some speed in dives too, i should test the max safe speed of the thing.

my biggest issue though is related to the engine limitations, im always afraid of seizing it when i need more power
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give me a fucking update
I fucking hope ww3 happens and nato fucks up russia in one day then sell their IP's and copyrights for cents. I fucking hope then some decent euro publisher eats it up and makes it great.
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drumpf pussied out
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>>211788402
>drumpf
Its werid how many of us got comfortable with that word today.
Just another fucking pawn, literally no different than shillary...
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>>211762053
4K looks miles better than the 2K ones, here is my SP mod collection atm.
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Some Italian mod team made this, clicky cockpit and everything. Testing it atm
https://www.reddit.com/r/hoggit/comments/8c8g6s/mb399a_mod_released/
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>>211792407
>another fucking trainer
DIGITAL """COMBAT""" SIMULATOR

pathetic
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>>211792407
>the manual is only in italian
Well fucking nice
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>>211792768
>Armament
>Guns: Provision for two 7.62mm miniguns or two 30mm DEFA cannon in under wing pods (MB-339CD)
>Bombs: Up to 1,800 kg (4,000 lb) of weapons on six hardpoints, including AIM-9 Sidewinder or R.550 Magic air-to-air missiles, AGM-65 Maverick air-to-ground missiles, Sea Killer anti-ship missiles, Matra Durandal anti-runway bombs, BAP 100 cluster bombs, BAT 120 anti-vehicle bombs, general-purpose bombs, and pods for Zuni or SNEB unguided rockets.

Besides it's a mod project you quad nigger.
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>>211793839
Nice Wiki pasta you fucking shitter
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>>211794019
>WAAAAAAA PLANE NO GOT WEPONZ
>yes it does, look
>WAAAAAAA WIKI INFO NO VALID
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Been having an absolute ton of fun flying the Fw190-A3 in single player. Once you learn High yo-yos, you are literally unstoppable unless it's 3 on 1

Side note: What do you all think of the camo job I did on this 1/72 109e3? I want to depict jg77 in Norway. It's just the bare camo, details and slight weathering etc coming soon
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>>211794363

1× 30 mm ADEN cannon, in centreline pod
Up to 6,800 lb (3,085 kg) of weapons on five hardpoints, including:
4× AIM-9 Sidewinder or ASRAAM or A-Darter on wing pylons and wingtip rails
2x Umbani or Al Tariq
1,500 lb (680 kg), limited to one centreline and two wing pylons (Hawk T1)

using your logic we should have more trainers because fuck redfor
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>combat aircraft, famous ones and iconic and largely produced ones: meh
>that obscure pseudo-trainer used once or twice in cartel narco wars in south america that was produced in double digits? Hell yeah fire up the dev station
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>>211794461
>1:72
disgusting
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>>211794491
>using your logic we should have more trainers
Nigger what the fuck are you even saying? I'm against adding more trainer jets as much as you but this is a FREE MOD PLANE not a paid official module. I wouldn't give a fuck if it had 0 weapons. It's a mod. It's free. It's something I'm just checking out. Why are you so triggered?
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baited
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>>211794461
The 190-A3 is a close second for me with Axis planes after the MC-202. My big issue with it is the visibility out of the cockpit.
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>>211796045
I agree with the visibility. It's great everywhere except out the front!
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>>211787452
I find hitting a higher power setting and rolling with it works best. And its controllability at speed is one of my favorite things about it.
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>>211779686
I believe they only stored the precursor chemicals there. They need to be mixed in the delivery weapons before they're effective.
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>>211798612
>tfw iq is too low to play sabow
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>>211798979
>tfw no money to buy sabow
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ded
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fly
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>>211808293
no
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>>211784374
Only a handful, at least. Still retarded though.
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>>211809553
please?
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>>211809790
Yeah, it seems to be calming down a bit with some cooler heads prevailing, at least
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>>211784374
>>211811162
Link?
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>>211811320
https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/35919-profitability-of-1c-gaming-studios-and-777-studios/

Here ya go, mate
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>>211792407
Hey Mario, yah know whata DCSa really needsa? Another jet trainer eh?
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>>211815440
wow, its literally fucking nothing
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>>211816292
Did you read the thread or just the first post?
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>>211816416
I did indeed, did you?
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>>211816292
I know, I have no clue why this is such a hot topic, I can already forsee the echo chambering of screeching autists and I don't even have to open the thread to know that.
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>>211816508
yes
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I'm new into this, I've been playing War Thunder's tank realistic battles, but I don't really like playing with other people. So I've recently picked Steel Armor, but it doesn't have many tanks to pick from.
Question, is there a tank game that has large amounts of units to pick from and does Graviteam Tactics fill that? Could be a game that has mods too.
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my dcs bonus points expire next month, what should I get?
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>>211820036
There isn't a game like Steel Armor and for a game like Graviteam tactics would be something like Combat Mission
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>>211823057
MiG-15bis
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>>211790036
where you found that son?
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>>211823485
Oh that's bad, tanks definitely need more love.
I'll try Graviteam Tactics later.
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>>211823520
Already got the fagot.
My options are mi8,harrier,c101 or campaigns, cant spend bonus on persian gulf or hornet.
Might wait till the last minute and see if the harrier has improved any if not then ill grab the hip.
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>>211826762
>My options are mi8,harrier,c101 or campaigns
MIGHTY EIGHT MIGHTY EIGHT MIGHTY EIGHT MIGHTY EIGHT MIGHTY EIGHT MIGHTY EIGHT MIGHTY EIGHT MIGHTY EIGHT MIGHTY EIGHT MIGHTY EIGHT
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To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand the Mi-8MTV2. The procedures are extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the flight dynamics will go over a typical simmer's head. There’s also Mikhail Mil's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his design- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. Mi-8MTV2 fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these systems, to realise that they’re not just complicated- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike the Mi-8MTV2 truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn’t appreciate, for instance, the sense of approaching death in Mi-8MTV2's existential VRS “Wub Wub Wub Rattle Rattle Rattle,” which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev’s Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I’m smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Belsimtek’s genius wit unfolds itself on their computer screens. What fools.. how I pity them.

And yes, by the way, i DO have a Mi-8MTV2 manual. And no, you cannot read it. It’s for the ladies’ eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they’re within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid
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>>211823615
The "Skins and Templates" section on the official forums, can't use them online afaik, maybe on some custom servers.
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>>211828698
thx
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>>211831913
thats some mighty rudder, basically moving sideways like a fucking crab
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>join one of the autism DCS servers that require SRS
>ATC cant pronounce half of everyone's callsign
>half of the people do not know the correct brevity
>every now and then some guy in broken english comes in
>"CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME!!??
>ATC cant keep up
>people crashing on take off and landing
>couple of choppers fucking around flying low over the airfield
>Im sitting here at the ramp laughing my ass off
Just couldn't do it, I left
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>>211777726
wouldnt be surprised if the "chemical weapon storage" was a warehouse with some cleaning products.
These are the same animals who dropped bunkerbusters on civilian air raid shelters.
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>31 posters
we couldnt even fill up a classroom lol
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>>211845627
>31 isnt enough for a class
what cheap, garbage public school did you attend?
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>>211845627
atleast the games are more active than the posters
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>>211845942
>public school
>garbage
found daddy's "special" son
your school sure was """special""" wasn't it, Jimmy?
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To the IL-2Fags is there a place where you have ops?
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>The 190s in IL2 single player crash on takeoff about 75% of the time.

I think the AI can't handle the way the tail wheel locks
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>>211846896
Discord aka "The doghouse" RUFF
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this ops meme is so fucking gay
you're just playing together and talking to each other, you larping faggots
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>>211847431
this
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>>211845942
The fuck? My public school had like 20 people per class.
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>>211846353
>>211852175
The point was, that if 31 isn't enough to fill a class then, that person is obviously used to some overcrowded hell hole, since 31 pupils in a classroom is already the upper limit of an ideal classroom size to ensure an adequate teaching environment to all involved
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Fuck off, alright?
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How likely is it ED will sell a F-18+ carrier+ Persian Gulf bundle for like 170 bucks at some point
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>>211857035
>The bend me over and fuck me bundle
Pretty likely
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>>211857149
>bend me over and fuck me bundle
I'm interested in that bundle.
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I'm trying to install Strike Fighters 2, I did it all in order but now the campaign customizer says the installer is out of date and cannot install.
How in the fuck do I do this fuck, I don't wanna spend 7 bucks just for this fucking shit.
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ded
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https://dr.squirrelboy12.com/DCSDevelopers/
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take off
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>>211857035
>save 10$ by buying the bundle special
>no bonus money given or accepted thou
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX_AezyGiF4
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>>211868145
God I am so ready for the F-18

I know there won't be much to do with it but just having a full sim 4th gen multirole with so much stuff to learn and operate is great
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i get my warthog hotas and ch pedals tomorrow what games do y'all recommend besides dcs with a10c content which i got int he recent sale
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>>211869232
You drop a few hundred on hardware and then ask this?
Really the only other sim for modern stuff is BMS Falcon, check out the IL-2 series if you like WWII combat.
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>its youtube stuttering guys not the sim
yea sure 9faggot
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Persian Gulf looks great but honestly how do you justify a $50 price tag on just a map
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>DCS whole earth map
coming 2267
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what anime are you watching currently?
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>>211870564
Just get 1TB of RAM bro!
Whats the problem bro you poor?
Get with the times bro!
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>>211871330
>implying I watch cancer cartoons
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>>211871202
I'll wait for DCS space sim.
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>>211871375
i know you do, dont be ashamed
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When will they fix fucking explosions.
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>>211871583
I haven't watched anime since I was like 12, and back then I only watched anime because it was all my local TV channel had. Other channels had european and american cartoons but I rarely watched those
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>>211871842
why you hate fun granps?
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>>211871341
i have 32GB, is that enough or is more recommended?
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>>211831913
What is this anime nonsense?
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>>211831913
That's a very accurate representation of flight models and collisions in War Thunder.
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>>211826762
Mi-8's fun, though turning on the weapons is a bit obtuse when you're first learning.
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>>211869928
well the hotas was £350 and the CH pedals were £150 (incl. delivery for both) so it's more like £400 ($570)

One question about the rudder pedals, what do you use the toe brakes for? Could I assign them to something useful in space sims like Elite Dangerous also?
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>>211872510
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>>211872709
wait my maths is bad £500 so 700 buckaroos
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>>211872745
>i*2
look at the "STATE OF THE ART" DM
the 109's tail doesnt know what to do and implodes on its own as instructed by the "sekrit documents"
E
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what trip is the cripple having?
nigga imma chain you to the chair
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>>211872707
>those shitty graphics that are literary PS2 tier
25 YEARS IN THE MAKING!
FOR THE PLAYERS!
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>>211874419
still looks better than the competitors though
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>>211872745
>IL-2 is a sim
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>>211872709
Incredibly enough you use the toe brakes as...
t o e
b r a k e s
WEW ikr, amazing shit huh?
I suppose you can use them for whatever you like
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>>211877521
Does the left foot brake something ot the right foot? I don't get it. Do you just press them down when landing? I only found out pedals were a thing when I found out the warthog doesnt have twist motion.
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>>211877670
>I don't get it

Well, if you can afford a Warthog I suppose you could probably afford to go to your local airfield and have a real flying man explain it to you. Just try not to drool on his shoes while you're there.
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>>211878227
why would i want to fly a real plane when i can do it in vr? much less dangerous
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>launch frontal attacks
>tanks successfully scatter enemy infantry out of their trenches
>suddenly, your tanks start spotting several AT gun platoons 1 kilometer away
>the guns start firing
If only you knew how bad things really are
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>>211878329
You're right, I suppose I'd better explain it to you as the prospect of you being within 5 miles of an actual aircraft terrifies me.

Ok, the two main gear on most aircraft have brakes on them, brakes are very good for slowing down the aircraft as opposed to screaming at people to get out of your way. The left toe break slows down the left wheel and makes the plane turn left if it is going too slow for the rudder to work. The right toe brake slows the right wheel. Both brakes at once slows the plane down or, if you press them hard enough, flips it over. (This is for when you are in too much of a hurry to be bothered with slowing down in a sensible way.)
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>>211877670
differential braking bro
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okay warthog and pedals guy here, i just got il2 strumovik stalingrad (and moscow), strumovik 1946, b-17 flying fortress, falcon collection (1-4), already had DCS a-10c (and huey), star wars x wing collection, everspace, already had elite dangerous, already had star citizen, vector 36, everspace, house of the dying sun
any HOTAS games I'm missing?

>>211878956
ah okay, thanks for the explanation, makes sense now
>>211878980
I'd have to google what that is
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>>211879152
damn, dis nicka rich as fuck
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>>211879152
It works like toe brakes but you have to push the rudder the way you want to turn and then use the brake.
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>>211885636
ugly
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Why aren't you enjoying the authentic eastern front expereince
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>>211872446
Yeah, the minimum is 16GB anyway. Besides, have you seen RAM prices recently?
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>>211877670
Left pedal brakes left wheel, right pedal brakes right wheel. Simple.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/hoggit/comments/8capz9/this_is_unreal/
People are really creaming their pants over raindrops

I mean it looks cool but I wouldn't consider it a top priority
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>>211898758
reddit is a bunch of cucks
they'll cream themselves if they get served a platter of hot shit and ask for another.
it's the general etiquette in reddit to not complain.
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>got banned from grim reapers
heyyy simg how's it goin'
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>>211903971
What's grim reapers
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>>211905283
Prolly some gay furry RPers
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>>211903971
Fuck off furry slavboo faggot
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>>211908037
um listen kiddo I'm a natoboo and like all true Americans I'm a 100% #animemissile
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who else /outthereintheboonies/
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>>211908206
Based
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>>211872707
why are you taunting me
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>>211908206
Sorry my natoboo friend but I got triggered by that slavshit you posted. Next time please post SLAVSHIT GETTING WRECKED or cartoon tiddies. Bless Trump.
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>>211908958
of course I understand your confusion, please enjoy this pic of communists getting roasted.

god bless america, mission acomplished
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>>211903971
Fuck off raptor you cuck
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>>211872745
>Posting beta webms
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>>211910540
post the discord invite
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>>211910861
Why not let jamal give you it after he fucks your mother?
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>>211910958
>simg has niggers in its discord
wtf
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>slavshit
>muttshit

Make way Gwailo, superior air force coming in.
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>>211911304
Inpressive. With lastest prowess of quantum flight controls, Chinese aircraft can now slam into a P-3 twice as fast.
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How well would a J-8II fair against a MiG-23?
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>>211909394
>posting muttshit tanks
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>>211911304
Source?
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If anyone runs into this Tonka01 kid, do me a favor and shoot him down, he's a massive shitter. Friendly fire, shoulder-sniping, he's a real piece of work. The dude tried to shoot me down even after getting repeated warnings from the game not to do so, and to make it all the more hilarious he failed to get me down, and got shot down by an Axis player for his trouble
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feel like shite just want her back x
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rate this roundel
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>>211920289
What roundel?
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F-15 damage models are broken, I was hit with an AIM-120, bro I was flying against was hit with a SAM, an AIM-9. Neither of us suffered damage that affected our flying ability, and then I finished him off in a scissors gunfight
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>>211921383
yeah they're fucking retarded right now, it no joke takes at least two missiles to kill most jets, and F-15s need like three and some guns.
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>>211921383
I once got hit in the face by some russian missile. Whole nose got blown off, radar was dead, all displays and gauges in the cockpit were dead, I got no missile tones, no electrics of any kind. Plane could still fly perfectly and I could still fire missiles

You'd think a missile hitting close and hard enough to obliterate the plane's nose section and disable all its electronics would also do something to the pilot
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>>211921904
The missiles in DCS are all impact. Fragmentation is simulated, but it's entirely possible that because it hit the nose dead on that all the electronic BS in the front absorbed all the fragments. A proximity fused warhead would have exploded to the side and thrown fragments over a wider area.
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>mig29 PFM might not even release this year

its not fair. at least red gets the J-11
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>>211922364
>Fragmentation is simulated
>Implying this when ED believes DLZ charts are for aerodynamic performance even when the battery is dead the missile still has several mach numbers.
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I won't forget the PTSD this battle gave me
>20 minutes ensued after the webm of layered german tank attacks
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>>211922709
It's the only explanation I can give for some of the more near miss kills I've gotten over the years.
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>>211922854
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>that long list of things ED said would be released in 2018
>mid april and nothing's come out yet
Realistically all we're guaranteed to get this year is the F-18 and Persian Gulf, and maybe the F-14
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>>211923220
I'd say the F-14 is basically 100% this year, there's no way they wont at least get early access out
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post the discord
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>>211879152
xp11 or p3d if you're into commercial stuff
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yall are too autistic

t.raptor
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Where do I find stuff to get good at ww2 aerial combat? Is there stuff I can read/watch to get me started I have an idea of planes and how to fly them, its the tactics that confuse me.
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>>211942386
I guess you're talking about multiplayer?
The first thing you should know is:
>Play meme game mode
>Get memed on

There are no tactics in multiplayer, just shitters who are too ADHD for real flight sims. They typically are easy to defeat since they are more predictable than the AI.

Here are the roles you can choose from if you play online:

1)The Wehraboo Hartmann: Pick the most overpowered plen and sit at 5,000m before attacking at sanic speed. You will probably fly for hours before spotting a target because Il-2 and DCS render distant aircraft like dogshit

2)The Slavaboo: Pick the plane that turns best, fly low as possible with your flaps out and turnfight everyone you see until you eventually die because enemies keep showing up at higher altitude than you.

There are also other, less common types of player you will meet:

1) The chad vulcher, this memelord flies to enemy airfields, makes one pass and gets raped by flak and fighters that take off to kill him

2) The virgin bomber, these shitters are always online. They know where every ground target is on every map by memory. They can't into fighters so they annoy everyone by spamming bombs on objectives and constantly rolling the map. (Why bother, the maps are all the fucking same anyway?)

3) The autist, can usually be found deliberately playing in planes that are not competitive. Uses the taxiway and announces their intention to land on voice comms and in the chat.
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>>211943498
>1)The Wehraboo Hartmann: Pick the most overpowered plen and sit at 5,000m before attacking at sanic speed. You will probably fly for hours before spotting a target because Il-2 and DCS render distant aircraft like dogshit

Despite the fact that the engines of DCS/IL make it shitty, what's wrong with flying like that?
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>>211942386
There's plenty of stuff on youtube that go over strengths and weaknesses of different aircraft and how to fly to those strengths and exploit weaknesses of enemy.
Just type in "how to xyz"
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>>211872745
How old is this wedm? The ui looks totally different now. PRetty funny, though
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>>211944490
It shows the user name of the player which would imply 2013-14.
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>>211943806
You've answered your own question.
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>>211945591
Fair enough - so you're not looking down at people doing it (lol pun) - you're just drawing attention to the fact it's not very viable because of game limitations?
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>>211945941
yes, attacking with the advantage is as close as you get to actual tactics.
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>>211943806
Other than the points already made sometimes they use aircraft that could be used in much better ways, such as them wasting Fw190Fs as a fighter sitting so high that you may as well not be not playing. Another is that most of these players arn't very good dogfighters in the first place.
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ded
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>>211943498
Literally war thunder
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>>211943498
This is a good pasta
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>>211943498
>caring about 'competitive'
There IS a place for you, you know.
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general reminder that this conversation is why civsims are superior and the argument about 'competitiveness' has no place in a simulator.
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When's BMS going to have actual VR support?
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>>211921383
>>211921904
FC3 aircraft in general are broken as fuck because they don't have as many systems to simulate as a full-fidelity model would.

Ergo, no full fidelity systems = less shit that can fail, and the shit that DOES fail isn't integral to the flight of the plane.
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>>211903971
lmao what did you do
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>>211913619
boy I wish we got a Mig-21 that was actually good so we could enjoy these period-piece battles instead of one whose engine shuts off a quarter of the way through a half-cuban eight.
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Remember when one of the most powerful energy fighters of last generation was reduced to being too heavy to do a immelmann in the vertical? haha good one leatherneck hoho.
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>>211921383
Meanwhile in the F-5
>get hit by stiff breeze
>wings fall off and engines explode
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>>211913619
embarrassing
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Not only are Deka Ironworks making a full sim JF-17, they're also making AI versions of the J-10 and JH-7. Here's hoping these two will be made into playable planes some day
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>>211958213
Probably never if they can't even change the menus
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>>211962870
Pathetic.
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slavs > mutts
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>>211963861
I have it in my Steam Libr. but I have only played around with it for a few hours so far. Trying to learn WitP while finishing my Flashpoint Soviet campaign so no time.
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so my warthog arrived today and a lot of older games i want to play on it fucking suck at recognising shit and target confuses me, is there a place to get target profiles or does everyone just make their own for some reason?
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>>211972418
l-lewd
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>>211971752
Usually it's best to start with someone else's profile and just change it as you go along. Like if you find that you keep hitting a button expecting it to something other than what's it's bound to, just change it to that.
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>>211972418
nice gripen
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>still can't fly mig-23
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>>211734442
>>211734442
>>Example of welcome games
>SWAT 4
>>Example of non-welcome games
>Ármá 1-3

But why ? Am i missing something ?
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>>211974521
>fake weapons
>fake vehicles
>gay community
>real life larping servers
oh i wonder why
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>>211974521
>2018
>hp system
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>>211974521
le ebin zombie meme
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>>211974521
a newfag like yourself wouldn't know
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>>211974627
but SWAT 4 is CoD baby shit compared to SWAT 3
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>>211975453
>swat
might aswell let in siege fags, at least that's the original
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>Another M1A2 Abrams KO'd in Yemen
Ebin.
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>>211975453
desu Idk why that is in the OP
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>>211975971
that name echoes, therefore im glad
post pics
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>>211975248
>>211974950
>>211975107
>>211974627
>expect actual argument
>get a retard tier greentext instead

Fuck i forgot im on 4chan.. all is missing is a smug anime girl reaction pic to complete the faggotry.
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>>211976580
stay mad play-pretend faggot
play real sims or get fucked out of orbit
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>>211976580
>expect argument
you got several.
You're a newfag, /armag/ used to be a thing and was nuked by mods rightfully. Arma discussion is illegal through /vg/ right now since it's community is cancer incarnate.
Now fuck off and kill yourself or retire to arma's subrddt
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>>211976580
I gotchu senpai
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>>211975971
>>211976221
jesus christ it's two not one
go to lostarmouryemen and set the filter to MBT's within last 4 months
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>>211976761
>ARMA
>not "real " sim
Im so sorry for your retardation.

>>211976786
>you got several.
Im not 12yo, fake and gay are not an argument for me anymore. Sorry.

>>211976810
Thank you, circle of faggotry is complete.
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>>211977809
Zero sympathy from me desu famolamo
you got no place here, shoo.
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>>211969509
Where's that screencap of the broken merkavas?
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>>211977809
>fake army
>in the future
>fake made up location
get over it SQUAD is closer to a sim than that shit
saw the tonk trailer..
laughable

what's it simulating exactly??
made up shit?
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>>211978659
>fake army
>legit army using legit if somewhat exotic equipment

>>in the future
>>fake made up location
Irrelevant


I almost feel sorry for retrarded fags like you.
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>>211978998
Arma is not a sim
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>>211974521
not a sim
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>>211978998
>legit army
HAHAHA
*wheeeeezez*
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>211979050
>>211979119
>>211978998
>>211978659

these
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Pleas give mig23
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>>211979186
>US Army is not a legit army
>mfw i will never be so retarded

feels good
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What exactly does Arma simulate?
It's too clunky and shit to do proper infantry tactics
Vehicle aren't good enough to do real combined arms
There's no weapons handling involved apart from shooting and pressing R to reload so there's nothing simulated there.
It doesn't simulate soldiering because most of that is how to look after yourself and your kit in the field, something arma again fails to model.

Tell me now, in what way is it a sim?
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my dick on mig23
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>>211979681
Cool headcanon.

Are there any dragons in that fairytale land of yours ?
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>>211979681
It's based on software that simulates giving orders .Apart from that nothing except for ballistics which it doesn't simulate particularly well.

Vehicles are garbage, AI vary from retarded to superman. No real historical or hypothetically plausible conflicts are simulated in any meaningful way.
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>>211979545
>US army in a*ma
>because the logo says so
>ignore the wrong uniform, vehicles, weapons and equipment
>it's just slight field mods
thanks god i dont have an extra chromosome fampai
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when the main selling point of your game is being the dependency for a zombie mod completely unrelated to your product

prime sim material
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Is there a market for a semi-realistic IL-2 1946 style game with modern jets and a shitload of content, even if most of it is made up?
Looking at this thread it'd seem that only study sims are wanted.
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>>211981493
Strike Fighters 2
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>>211979885
Great argument, you really showed me!
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>>211981493
Yes because only ED drones want everything to be study sim level.

If we had an alternative to DCS i'd drop it immediately
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>>211981493
you have war thunder for that shit
define the difference between a sim and a "study sim"
it seems to me, you want games with semi-realistic features not sims
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>>211982328
Survey sims are a thing retard. IL-2 is a survey sim, DCS is a study sim. But DCS is janky, shit and doesn't have nearly enough to keep most people engaged.
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Flaming Cliffs 3 is a survey sim. I can hate on FC3 as a simdad, but it would be cool to have some more aircraft made
>so long as they don't take 4 years to make
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>>211982636
survey sim

never heard about it, seems like a made up term to keep lesser """sims""" in the same branch as their bigger brothers
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>>211982874
Don't you have reddit threads to me making about how DCS is the greatest sim ever because they have raindrops and only because IL-2 did it first
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>>211981578
SF2 is fun but the AI balancing is quite dumb. Instead of improving both enemy and ally pilots, it works by both making the enemy pilots good and your allies absolute trash.
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>>211983037
dont you have a discord to spam with passive aggressive dcs hate only because you wish il2(aka babby's first flight sim experience) was taken seriously by the sim community?
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>>211983198
No because I actually like DCS, I just wish it wasn't filled with such shameless dicksuckers like yourself who pat ED on the back for the simplest things and never call them into account for all the game's shortcomings
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>>211983373
>like yourself
implying hard here, everyone that doesnt bash dcs at least three times in a single thread is a "reddit dicksucker"
mmkay
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>a sci-fi spaceship game requires more study than il2 """simulator"""
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>>211982874
>survey sim
>never heard about it
2. You will immediately cease and not continue to access the site if you are under the age of 18.
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>>211984485
and yet if a dev released an Apollo Command Module with the same fidelity, you wouldn't play it because
>lol no combat
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Trying to figure out cold waters

Against ships, where's the best place to hide if there's a thermal layer? Just go as deep as possible, or in the shadow zone right below the layer?
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>watch meme youtuber play P3D
>PMDG 747-400V3
>JFK to LHR
>depart 31R
why?
>not wait for flaps to extend, attempt takeoff, abort for config warning
wow
>not fly the INFAMOUS KennedyX departure, proceed straight out
jesus christ
>fumble with lumbering passenger jet, while blowing through the traffic pattern of LaGuardia
what a total fail
>close video in disgust
I hate watching people fumble through civilian simulators
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>>211985159
>hiding
>not surfacing and going full speed head on like a man while shooting cruise missiles everywhere
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>>211985159
Usually I stay right around 400, that way you have enough time to react when a torpedo eneters the water, and enough depth to use when evading it.
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>>211985159
Watch JiveTurkey on YouTube for explanations on tactics - he's an ex-USN sonarman and his videos are pretty comfy.

<50ft below the layer puts you in the best part of the shadow zone.
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>>211982752
They should make FC4

Make a selection of planes that are guaranteed to never EVER be made in full sim and make them flaming cliffs tier
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>>211986002
Which planes would those be?
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>>211986323
Anything Russian made after 1973
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>>211986323
Cold war to late cold war planes. Seems to be a category missed by sims. Would fit the previous FC because of the older planes.
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>>211986572
plus more modern shit like F-22, 35, Su-35, Su-57

Also bombers
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>>211984785
yea haha nice joke
no one ever referred to sims that way, kid not even 777 themselves
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>>211985692
not the same guy, but damn that guy is
W I D E
wonder if he was used as human ballast
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>>211986421
>>211986002
im actually really ok with this
fc3 came out in 2013, why dont we shill this on the forums?
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>>211984940
>if a dev released an Apollo Command Module
Good news friend
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxHsYTUXWs4&t
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>>211987425
They'll tell you to piss off because they're too busy with other things to start churning out new FC planes
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>>211987192
>no one ever referred to sims that way
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat_flight_simulator#Survey
>no one ever referred to sims that way
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat_flight_simulator#Study
>no one ever referred to sims that way
that must be why there are Wikipedia entries about this 'non existent' language
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>>211988115
>implying some wikipedo editor's self coined and arbitrary nomenclature and definitions mean jack shit.
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>>211988406
>implying that entry hasn't been there longer than you've been alive
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>>211988547
given that it refers to games made in the last few years, either I'm an incredible precocious or you're a retard and should kill yourself immediately.
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>>211988664
>given that it refers to games made in the last few years
Combat Flight Simulator 2: Released 2000
Jane's USAF: Released 1999
Jane's US Navy Fighters '97: Relesed 1996
>games made in the last few years
maybe someday you'll be old enough to KYS
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>>211989041
what's your fucking point im still older than that, you literal millenial
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btw this "survey" definition only tells us broadly what they simulate
not how detailed

useless pathetic label
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>>211989807
>useless pathetic label
and yet it worked just fine up until the point you decided to take a shit on your keyboard
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>>211990329
>it's a "survey" sim because it features planes and vehicles coherently from an historical timeline
can be applied to war thunder too

that definition doesn't say jack shit about HOW they are simulated, which is the important part
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>>211990329
I'm sorry nobody likes your wikipedia article, maybe add more [citations]
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>>211982081
Tbh I wish they'd just go back to making Flaming Cliffs only. They clearly don't have the ressources/competence to make a good sim on clicky clicky level.

I also wish there was a successor to Energy Airforce/Over-G Fighters and Panzer Front Ausf. B .

I'd love to play a good sim with the clicks and full system management, but what is it worth if the whole thing barely functions, has fuck all for you to do with the systems and is overpriced as hell? Those simcady ones might not satisfy my autism enough but at least they work as intended.
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>guy makes a simple "rip my fps haha" post
>downvoted to oblivion and gets these replies
Jesus christ reddit really is fucking cancer
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>>211991201
F16 would be a perfect candidate. It's too similar to the hornet to justify developing it as a full DCS module, but people would love it as FC3
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>>211991932
>implying a full sim F-16 wouldn't sell billions
Lots of F-16 fanboys out there who wouldn't give a shit that it's the same as the F-18
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>>211991846
are you really new to this?
spoiler it's not just hogg*t its the entirety of that website.

i stopped posting on it like 3 years ago, at best i browse to check if there's something new.

best thing hogg*t ever did was to take the bait of poor old ded ralf, providing keks
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>>211991932
>FC3 module
What I meant was actually leaving that horrible broken modular DCS framework behind altogether and making "proper" simcade games again. Just having more FC-tier planes in DCS isn't gonna fix all the issues with the framework or give me something to do in those planes. In fact, I'd suddenly have even less to do.

DCS's only saving grace are the clicky pits, at least there's something to do in them. Take away the systems management and you're left with essentially nothing except maybe sub-par Airquake.
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>>211992620
He made them believe he drank himself to death on stream? Fucking ace.
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>>211992861
>he
it was initially an internal thing, to fool /simg/
and it worked moderately

then it was brought over to discord and those fags couldnt help it but to post it over the reddit immediately.

it was fun though, but it lasted like 3-4 hours before it got debunked
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>>211982874
>It's not true because I'm an ignorant retard
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>>211992620
Good times.
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>>211985287
Link? Or search terms so I can find it?
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fucking reddit faggots. no wonder this place is ded.
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>>211998654
this + the discord runaways
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>>211987742
>no 3d cockpit
>6 preset 2d views
bad news friend
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How arcadey is IL-2? I want to play a WW2 sim cause I'm so tired of War Thunder's shit. I'd play DCS WW2 but it's too much cash for one plane and there's fuckall to do outside of multiplayer
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>>212003443
it might be just as arcadey as dcs, it might be much more. it's literally impossible to say, who the fuck knows what damage actually looked like in ww2, vs. what makes a fun game, vs. what makes a game that feels challenging and has a simulation pace
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>>211871341
I don't really see what people are complaining about. Even my poor 16GB DDR3 runs without stuttering, and that's the minimum you should be trying to play any sandbox game with when it comes to the size and quantity of things held in memory.
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>>212003627
Do you get all the planes from the start or do you have to like unlock them?

How are the campaigns, if there are any?
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>>212003443
you're exchanging 6 for half a dozen.

Basically there are no modern games with a shit unless you want to airquake.
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>>212004134
you gotta unlock em through single player missions, there's a dynamic campaign, not my thing so i couldn't tell you, i kind of checked it out and it looked pretty in depth, most people that talk about it seem to all say the same thing: very good in every respect except for the ai. so take that as u will also don't buy if you own a gtx 780 or gtx 760 gpu, also i've stopped playing and gone back to BMS and 1946
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>>211879302
>you have to push the rudder the way you want to turn and then use the brake
Yeah, if you're an illiterate commie! Real planes have nosewheel steering. (Not that you shouldn't still apply full rudder before braking).

Long story short pic related is a better thought out and better manufactured plane than the best the soviets could provide, and that's hilarious.
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>>212004482
>don't buy if you own a gtx 780 or gtx 760 gpu
Nah R9 380X

I might get it but I'll probably wait for Bodenplatte, the selection of planes is nicer cause I don't llike WW2 Russian fighters
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>>212004659
try reading the thread before posting newfag
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>>212004482
>>212004134
>>212003443
you dont have to unlock them in single player you twat
they're all ready to go from the start.
campaign is nice, lots of detail around the various operations, weekly newspaper reports, history of the various wings and units involved etc..
the ai could use an upgrade though
damage models for the most part are good, online it gets worse because sometimes the hits you see are not being registered
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>>212005072
campaign is nice
>lots of fluff
>important elements absent
k
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>>212006228
explain
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>>212006228
name a better option
even 1946 isnt all that great
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>>212006430
Not to mention you still have PWCG
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How's multiplayer for ground pounders? Thinking of maybe getting the Viggen
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>>212006424
The campaign lives or dies on the strength of the AI since that's what you're working with/against. If it's shit, the campaign is shit. No matter how many newspaper updates you get.

>>212006430
That's just the problem, you can either play half baked crap or old games.

>>212006621
Still doesn't fix the core problem, just adds more fluff.
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>>212004980
It's a joke you fucking autist.
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>>212007104
>Hurr I was only pretending to be retarded

sure thing kiddo
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>>212006802
Literal safe spaces
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>>212007293
Because the FC3 people are too busy AMRAAMing each other at altitude?
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>>212006869
you're never gonna get an incredibly great AI, there's room for improvement sure but if you want more of a challenge most people just play multiplayer.

otherwise you get SUPER-EFFECTIVE ai to the extreme like modded silent hunter destroyers that can hear your cook's fart from their harbors, or top gun fighters that snipe you from 3 miles out.
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Sale on the ED site when?
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>>212006869
>The campaign lives or dies on the strength of the AI since that's what you're working with/against. If it's shit, the campaign is shit. No matter how many newspaper updates you get.
Well the AI is still an on-going process and was only recently implemented, so while janky at times it's better than anything else atm. Also, your playing with AI in the first place so you can't really expect much in terms of proper/precise combat maneuvers vs. that of an actual human player.

All-in-all the AI will probably get tune-ups down the road so it's not much of an issue since it already does the job and gives more bang for your buck.
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>>212008307
That's where you're wrong kiddo. THere are games out there that have excellent AI because their developers understood that each plane needs it's own AI and that AI should act human, not like a Skynet Cyborg. The Mod for BoB Wings of Victory and the CFS3 Overhaul Wings Over Flanders Fields both have AI that is astoundingly good.

Il-2 has the same faggy AI for each aircraft which hasn't changed since Rise of Flight beyond having more actions scripts like "Bomb this" or "Strafe that" added to it. There's literally no difference between the AI for a JU-88 and an I-16 beyond some DNE parameters that are added on top of the base AI algorithm by luascripts. It's the same in Rise of Flight, The AI is only capable of turning in 6 directions left, right high left and right and low left and right. They're not taught any maneuvers except takeoff and land.

The problem is not hurr durr you'll never get gud AI. You get good AI by putting effort into it and making sure that each aircraft has it's own, or at least that similar aircraft share an AI that reflects their role/capabilities.

Stop being an apologist for meme tier garbage anon.

>>212008617
topkek, I've been waiting almost ten years for those improvements. Not gonna happen.
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>>212009235
well they could spent months just on the AI or develop a better engine, add more planes and maps and improve their sales.

do you think improved AI would be a selling point nowdays?
when 90% of the community cares only about multiplayer anyways?

to be honest i'd rather have them work on a pacific theater other than a super detailed AI
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>>212007285
>haha this guy replied to a post with an obviously sarcastic criticism of soviet aircraft purposefully and obviously completely irrelevant to the rest of the thread
>I'll tell him to read the thread and call him a newfag
>that'll be fucking hilarious

Actually neck yourself.
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>>212009638
Oh bullshit, same cock and bull garbage we've heard a thousand times. You improve your sales by improving your product not by stuffing more piss into an ocean of piss.
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>>212009816
no anon dont be a retard, pacific or 1944 western europe maps and planes would sell like candies considering they have no competitors.
definitely not "piss"

besides, they're not just adding new stuff, they did improve the render distance and visual fx and the campaign mode "for free".
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Persian Gulf will make Nevada obsolete, right?
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>>212010549
newer sand > older sand
no but really did any conflict take place in that small ass map?
other than coalition jets taking off or landing at those fields
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>>212009638
>AI not a "Selling Point" in a game that relies on AI to be anything other than CoD with plane avatars.

WEW LAD
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>>212010549
100%

>>212010734
>he's never heard of operation praying mantis
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>>212010813
>a game that relies on AI to be anything other than CoD with plane avatars

as i said before, try and think like an actual non-retarded person, and think what's more appealing
>new content
>"improved ai"
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>>212009638
>90% of the community cares only about multiplayer anyways?

80% of the players aren't active in the community, they play offline.
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>>212011075
see
>>212011142

>now try and act like a non retarded person and get a sense of perspective on the actual situation.

You have some memey MP faggots sucking dev cock to get a FM tweak on their favourite plane so they can score more kills in airquake. That's your "Community". What they want can take a flying fuck at a rolling donut and it won't hurt sales.
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>>212009816
>You improve your sales by improving your product
Goddamn your a fucking retarded autist, you should be glad for what we already have you ungrateful little fuck.
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>>212011526
>be grateful for trash.
Ok, thanks for stopping by Il-2 shill, take your facile forumdad faggotry and get off muh 4chins.

kthxbai
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>>212011343
well you see, they're the ones preordering new shiny BoB planes and the collector planes like the la5fn.

from 777's perspective makes more sense to head in that direction, make cash, and fix other stuff on the side.

im not saying it's great or good, but it makes sense (for them at least) and they're getting support from the most vocal and money-investing part of the community.
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>>212011702
Ah, should've known it was all just some DCS babby trolling. Serves me right I guess.
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https://strawpoll.com/669h3xk5
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>>212011746
Great, so you're pandering to the wistful desires of gullible idiots, good luck with that.
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>>212011834
I own both and have neither installed since neither are worth wasting time playing.

>DCS: expensive engine startup simulator
>Il-2: Au fait Warthunder
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>>212011941
im not pandering to anyone really.
im fine with what i bought box-wise.

im interested in the tank operations and wish they'll move on to the pacific in the near future.
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>>212010832
>operation praying mantis
tl;dr?
seems more of a naval operation to me than an air one
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>>212012242
Not you personally dickhead, the extraneous "you" in the broader sense.

Unless you're shilling in which case...
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>>212012113
Then why are you even here you fucking sperg, go outside and be a real pilot then crybabby civsim faggot.
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>>212012483
Why are you even here you ADHD casual faggot? Move back in with your parents and post on >>>/wtg/
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>>212012595
Why are we still here? Just to suffer?
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>>212012710
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>people should really play against the AI all the time
>that really where the fun is at
>boring?
>repetitive?
>NO
>THAT' S JUST BAD DEVELOPING
>MULTIPLAYER A SHIT
>PLAYING WITH OTHER PEOPLE A SHIT
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Help pls spoonfeed me I don't know where to go from here

I got gifted an old HOTAS cougar stick and throttle, and I picked up a Saitek pedal/rudder thingy.

Is this all I need to buy some flight sims and git gud? Where do I start?


Also, I have Mechwarrior 4 and always wanted to play it in autist mode with a full cockpit setup, but I can't get the game to recognize the pedals. What do.
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>>212012868
Nice headcanon bro, you should start a subreddit and post your fanfiction there.

>>212013084
Come back in 10 years when they aren't all meme tier shit or just buy stuff from before 2005.
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>>212013084
You play BMS with that shit nigga
nah but seriously you are almost set, just need some sort of headtracking solution.
Cant help you with mechwarrior sorry.
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>>212013332
>BMS
Is BMS bad or something? Or is that not a good setup for it? I just googled it and it looks fun, should I not try it?

Also, is headtracking necessary? I assume that's just for looking around the cockpit.
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>>212013319
why are you such a sore assed sour old granpa?
cant you spend your last years of your life more positively?
>>212013084
dcs is free if you want to test your stuff, you get a jet and a civ mustang
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If you bought Squad before it launched on Steam you can get your free Post Scriptum keys now.

http://postscriptumkeys.joinsquad.com/
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>>212013723
Its not bad at all, its just probably not a good place for you to start.
Headtracking is essential for any air combat, if you are doing civ stuff then it doesn't really matter.
You can get away with a just using a hat to look around though, see how you go.
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>>212013084
As much as it gets shit on here, just start with DCS World, download it from the website not on steam. I'd recommend BMS but it's ridiculously hard to setup as a beginner never mind actually using it. For real whoever makes BMS must hate newcomers, I swear they make it a pain in the ass to install on purpose.
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>>212013084
Here's the quick rundown

>MILSIM
Il-2: It's WW2 only War Thunder with joysticks instead of mouse control and a meme tier tacked on historical campaign. Not Ded

DCS, autistic level of detail "sandbox" sim with very little worth doing and an eclectic planeset that belongs in a crack house. Not quite Ded

Cliffs of Dover: Can't decide if it wants to be DCS or Il-2, more bugs than a Bombay whorehouse. Pretty Ded

BMS Decent enough F-16 sim. Dedish

Rise of Flight, WW1 version of Il-2 Ded

Old Il-2, can be modded to have over 9,000 planes. Not bad tier due to mods and massive amounts of content but also Ded

Wings Over Flanders Fields: WW1 survival sim. Not as advanced as newer sims but decent. Offline only.

CIVSIM

FSX, buy expensive addons for comfy civsim experiences. Probably the most useful sim if you are interested in actual flying

Eggsplane, basically the same as FSX. Another addon platform.
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>>212013740
It's not my fault the entire Combat sim industry has gone to shit. I'm just calling a spade a spade.

Also, I posted my first smug anime face today so you'd better watch out youngster.
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>>212015480
well look at the bright side, at least it still exists somewhat, compared to what happened to silent hunter for example.

if need more animu just ask senpai
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>my own torpedo hit me in my 6 o clock after I took out 8 ships

I love cold waters
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>>212016769
Just like a real sailor
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>>212013956
>bought Squad
>just so you can get into another shitty early access bugfest with no content or competence from the devs
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>>212016769
torps dont have iff?
basically like a mad-dog 120?
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>>212018090
yeah

>I fire at enemy ship
>ship uses noisemaker
>it's super effective
>torp goes into search mode
>acquires my own decoy
>flies through my decoy
>search mode again
>acquires my 6 and I have no idea it's coming since I'm masking it with my own engine sound
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>>212018478
dayum
bad part is you cant ctrl+e 300 yards unda da sea
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>>212016769
Wire break on launch?
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Say I wanted to go full dumb and buy a WW2 fighter in DCS. How's the Spitfire?
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>>212025780
no
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>>212018090
mad dog that has fuel for 25 minutes full throttle flight
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How can such a tiny and simple plane be so based?
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>>211735764
newfag here
wat game?
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GUYS
GUYS

I'M FINALLY GETTING GOOD AT COLD WATERS
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>>212014561
>CIVSIM
Civfag here, agree with the FSX rundown. Don't forget the 300,000+ freeware mods of various quality.
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You guys play uhh Combat Mission here?
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>>212034745
i wana buy maybe wen in sale?
do they sale?
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>>212036336
Yes
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>>212041880
Pretty sure it's never been on sale. There's also a massive expansion coming out soon™ so I wouldn't hold my breath for one anytime soon.
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>>212041880
Was waiting months for a sale, never happened
worth it at full price though

It's the FC3 of subs
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>>212036336
Yeah, sure man. Amazon has them to download for pretty cheap
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>>212034463
graviteam tactics mius front
>2018
>people are still asking
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>>212042163
Details on expansion?
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>>212051254
Free south china sea campaign set in 2000
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>>212055652
so more recent subs?
also can you play russian subs?
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>stops your 1mil cruise missile
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>>212059060
>stops about 10% of your many cruise missiles
fix'd
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>>212058201
Not yet, but yes more recent subs, modern Chinese ones and the Seawolf Class is playable
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>muh perl harbur
>muh 100 years ago but still whining like a little bitch
>starts wars based on flase flags and made up crap
>cries about pointless killing of civilans then shoots missiles in random ass places
so the mutt meme is real huh?
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>>212061076
Dude, the DOD has to justify its budget somehow... Have you seen how much they embezzle the US taxpayer?
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>>212061076
pearl harbor truly is such a gay crybaby mutt drama
>MILITARY PORT
>WITH MILITARY PERSONNEL
>NAVY WARSHIP
>DURING WARTIME
>AFTER YEARS OF JAPANESE EXPANSION IN THE EAST
>BE DUMB
>DONT SUSPECT A THING
>GET BTFO
>M-M-M-M-MUH INFAMY
>D-D-DECEMBER 7NTH

meanwhile

>firebombing/nuking CIVILIANS
>when the war was already over
>on a starving country of mostly widows and children
>is TOTALLY OK
>clearly there was no other way to stop them at this point

not to mention the poorly crafted falseflags, like the iraqi WMDs, or the attack on syria cuz muh gassing assad.
>accuses one of gassing
>authorities intervene
>yo there's no gassing
>not trustworthy
>international authorities that already checked the situation 1 year prior, and found everything was ok are sent again to check out things
>lel bomb everything b4 they arrive
>spend close to a billion(or even more) in missiles, high tech standoff munition, jet fuel etc.. to attack 3 THREE factories
>supposed "chemical wep factories" magically dont cause a nearby contamination once you blow them up
>mission accomplished
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>>212064936
Yeah but we got to see some cool missiles blow things up my dude
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>>212064936
One wonders what they are blowing up then, one also wonders why you have such a had time finding >>>/pol/
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>>212066037
losing the wing tip, fine maybe overdid ground steering
striking the prop, fine maybe pressed down too hard on the brakes
but what happened to that poor rudder??
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>>212066758
I think the rudder might have snapped off when the tail slammed into the ground coming down from the nose dive
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ded
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Which module is better made, F-86 or MiG-15?
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>>212063392
>>212064936
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

>Operation Northwoods was a proposed false flag operation against the Cuban government that originated within the U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) and the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) of the United States government in 1962. The proposals called for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) or other U.S. government operatives to commit acts of terrorism against American civilians and military targets, blaming it on the Cuban government, and using it to justify a war against Cuba. The plans detailed in the document included the possible assassination of Cuban émigrés, sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas, hijacking planes, blowing up a U.S. ship, and orchestrating violent terrorism in U.S. cities.[2] The proposals were rejected by the Kennedy administration.[3]

>At the time of the proposal, communists led by Fidel Castro had recently taken power in Cuba. The operation proposed creating public support for a war against Cuba by blaming it for terrorist acts that would actually be perpetrated by the U.S. Government.[4] To this end, Operation Northwoods proposals recommended hijackings and bombings followed by the introduction of phony evidence that would implicate the Cuban government.

JFK shut down this shit, and ordered investigations and tried to flush the political cartels within the US congress, CIA and DoD. That's why he was shot.
mfw when when solid evidence surfaces regarding 9/11 being another falseflag (Even though there are already a bunch of whistleblowers).
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>>212064936
Its trama in a same sense Iraq invading Kuwait and throwing babies out of incubators was a drama. It was deliberate provocation to start was with Japs, because Rosevelt (and his clique) wanted war, but US public didnt.
The navy sent some obsolete ships to Pearl Harbor that would be scrapped in a few year. The only ships of value there were 2 carriers, but they were conveniently away on a training mission during the attack
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>>212066037
Nice job considering the circumstances.
>>212071810
MiG-15Bis
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>>212066037
You survived, nice.
>Any landing you can walk away from is a good landing
>Any landing where you can use the aircraft afterwards again is a great landing
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>>212073750
Aw but I really like the F-86 much more. Is it missing something big/important or does it have a lack of polish or shitty flight model or something?

In fact what are the most and least complete/well made planes in general?
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>>212075347
No, the F-86 is fine just like anything made by Belsimtek.
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>>212075347
The F-86 and MiG 15 are just as complete as eachother. I prefer the Sabre because it's more versatile and fun to fly
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>>212075347
Yeah, my bad. I didn't see you were asking which one was better -made-
Others are correct, they are of equal high quality.
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>>212082947
I wish dcs had more jets from the 40s and 50s
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I'm unironically very happy and heart-warmed at how peaceful /simg/ has been cruising recently and the decline of page-10 bumperinos.
have a T-34, /simg/.
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>>212083748
>the decline of page-10 bumperinos.
well anon you do post a lot of that gravitem salsa to keep things breathing
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what the fuck is up with project reality clones these days?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x18PhxECmEY

should i wait for this instead of the squad ww2 mod?
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Why are afterburner effects so terrible in DCS? Fucking Ace Combat had better afterburners back in the PS2 days
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>>212085651
Always happy to nurture simbros back to health
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>>212092663
I somehow managed to die in that engagement even though I had a massive advantage and those two enemy subs didn't even know what hit them
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>>212028906
Because you're actually flying an aircraft instead of a weapons computer with wings.
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>>212059060
>stops literally 0 cruise missiles
fix'd
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>>212093508
yeah sure mr. drumpf, we're winning bigly
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>>212092404
wew lad, where did you get this? I'd be down for some comfy B-1 Lancer flying
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>>212018090
Yup. Not only that, your torpedoes are way more capable than any of the Soviet ones, so if it turns on you it's a basically a death sentence unless you get lucky with a MOSS or can 100% commit to dodging it.
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>>212093818
from a wallpaper site
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Since /wgg/ has been dead forever and I was stupid enough to miss the sale...
Anyone have a working link to pirate Flashpoint Campaigns with Germany Reforged DLC?
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here anutha 1
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not so fast
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>>212101648
a fucking leaf
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>>212086408
Post Scriptum isn’t a mod, but it’ll probably be better than Hell Let Loose
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>>212104587
The thing with Squad, and probably Post Scriptum as well, is that the games are really good and offer a good framework for enjoying. But its the only game that is as good as your Squad leader. You can have a blast with a good Squad leader and really operate and die from boredom in the next matches where you have a retard.

I'm looking forward to PS, I'll preorder and try to get into a unit asap, because playing with randoms sucks balls.
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>>212104761
That’s a problem with any PR esque game, or any team based game really.
I think PS might actually be better than Squad though; everything I’ve heard is that it’s slower than Squad which hopefully means that rushing isn’t as cancer.
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simg playing squad / PR together when?
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>>212105376
I'd be interested, unironically.
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>>212104761
On the subject of infantry milsims - has anyone had any experience with Firefight yet? It's like this VR FPS and the idea of having to physically point guns and take cover with your full body seems really appealing to me.

More generally though, I'm not even sure VR is the next big thing anyway, but I really want one for flight sims and a good infantry sim would be a nice bonus.
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>>212105376
I would be interested too
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>>212105440
>>212106181
There is the simg steam group. I'm kinda burnt out on Squad and I'd mostly be interested in Post Scriptum desu
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>>212106408
do they have a discord?
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Paying customers allowed to play the F-18 when?
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>>212108561
do we have any idea how much the f18 is gonna cost?
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>>212109414
https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/shop/modules/hornet/
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>>212108561
may 2018
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>>211875003
no other sim even bothers properly simulating collisions, simply because its unnecessary
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>>212109864
Love it, you can see and sense the weight and momentum in the planes.
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>>211947125
They'll get better at dogfighting as they practice. And What's wrong with using 190(A's, I assume as that is what is in game) as energy fighters? They are fast as fuck and it's a lot of fun to use them like that. I know they were typically ground attack planes in real life, but it's different in the game
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>>212113697
not him but I think his point is about people who fly at contrail height thinking they're being "LE SNEAKY KRAUT GONNA SWOOP ON DEM BOMBERS"
But at that height and basically any height except right at the edge of maximum energy gain; the chances of you ever participating in a fight are slim to none. Nothing is going to climb up to get you, and everything below you will be a combination of extremely tiny dots and too far away for consistent swooping.
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>>212113697
The 190 in DCS is a D-9
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>>212118093
and I just realized you guys were talking about IL-2 so disregard my comment
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>>212104761
this, it's too late, faggots like devildog gamer and bluedrake42 ruined it a LONG time ago, for all we made fun of them for, the autism of Milsim Units like 4th sfg and etc. perfectly balanced out the average user of Project Reality. We'll never have it again, more money is being spent to develop and more money is spent purchasing in this genre then ever before but it is the highschoolers post-garry's mod/minecraft phase.

The game doesn't actually depend on squad leaders, at least, that's not the degree of the problem squad leader quality is much easier to control / manage when the player's have the right attitude and intentions for playing the game. People join squads with 8 retards and think "oh great, it's a retard squad leader".

There's literally no solution to this. It's a cultural problem, the pest is here, the healthy users have all moved on to their lives, and that is not going to change in the next decade.

Potential solutions: a game that takes hours to download from Mediafire.net, hours to install, and then hours to configure with all the required 3rd party software.

Another potential solution: a non-universal player rating system. I played with these guys and I liked them. I join a server and none of them are online, but there is a squad of 8, 6 of which have played with the guys you like and they were rated positively by them. All the ratings are peer-to-peer, not centralized , it's not about what users are well liked and which users are badly behaved to be punished, just about not wanting to spend the next 2 hours walking aimlessly on Kashan while my squad members talk in memes. Shitty culture is literally cancerous. Shitty people come, smell poopoo, and they stay. And every 10 minutes a different normal person joins the server, wonders why everyone is eating poopoo, and where all the normal people went. That's why late-life Project Reality hosts password protected events. It's normal people scheduling to all play at the same time.
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>>212087164
>Why is *X* so terrible in DCS? Fucking *game from 10+ years ago* had better *X*
I honestly cant tell anymore if someone is reposting the same thing over and over again or its more people noticing how shit dcs is.
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>>212119489
does it even matter... it's true
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damn these weebs keep this board moving fast
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>>212013084
Grab Strike fighters 2 through the internet, it's pretty quick and easy to get into, shit ton of mods around, and you get actual singleplayer content.
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Second attempt at landing this thing...at least nothing was destroyed.
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>>212127441
you probably just need more practice, but it might help to review some general aviation knowledge
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyShrIwKzLc
it looks like you're progressing nicely
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>>212127757
Yeah I need more practice. I'm used to jets that tend to fly straight at all speeds thanks to no torque, but this thing is a handful at landing speeds
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>>212127949
the DCS version likes right aileron in addition to the rudder and elevator inputs.. I find it's happy on a takeoff with back and right stick, and right rudder.
I usually apply whatever is required for landing attitude. It REALLY likes to bounce, and because I don't have physical rudder pedals, I need to be very active on maintaining centerline, and using differential brakes as a last resort. If you're doing that good with just 2 attempts.. you'll have this thing under control within the next hour lol
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>>212128595
Not him, but it was easy to pick up after this monstrosity
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>>212129838
I don't own that one, but I do have the 109...
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>>212118517
people fucking crucify me for this opinion, but Squad needs a fucking matchmaking system and elo system. The whole "just join a server dude" model is outdated shit. Just because you grew up with it, doesn't make it good.

I've played Squad with actual good players during events, and it's a completely different game. The most frustrating thing about playing Squad is that I can be playing as squad leader, lead my men into an advantageous/optimal fight, and lose the fight because they're all just worthless at the game. And I know it's because they're bad, because I can end the game 15 kills and 3 deaths, while they all sit around 2 kills and 4 deaths, despite all of us being in the same firefights.

I know that my strategy was good, when I can practically get my entire squad on top of the enemy, take them by surprise, and personally kill 5 of them. But no matter how good the strategy, I can not hold the hands of all 8 of my squad members when in a melee, and they let me down.

If there was a way to play in a game with only players that were competent, the game would be fun again for me.
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>>212135176
>people fucking crucify me for this opinion

And so they should, gb2 Halo.
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>>212135732
enjoy your squad full of fucking retards because you're still not over the fact that a game you don't like could adopt a useful technology I guess
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>>212135176
>>212135732

a matchmaking system would be OK, the problem is calculating ELO in a big team v big team battle where there is no quantitative factor to use to differentiate player skills would be impossible. this was the point of the milsim unit / clan / known pubbers system that pr had. This worked because players had reputations, you played with the same people all the time so you recognized names, you recognized ms units and if you meshed well with them they would let you play a support role in their squad, the genre actually requires a proportion of total player base to grouped players that makes it work. the groups kind of enforced a certain amount of discipline from other squads on the same team, and would nurse new players / bad players, showing them how the game was best played. I'm incredibly skeptical this will be solved in PR, given the fact that the famous pubbers kind of won the battle for influence with the clans. People like bluedrake42 and viruuselli, etc. etc. became THE standard because every new player was funneled through people like them and respected their notoriety, but they had a limited and useful role in the community and unfortunately youtube and similar platforms made their outreach far bigger than the small community could defend itself from.
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>>212140749
*will be solved in squad
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>>212115365
I see what you mean,and you are right. I realized pretty quickly not to cruise at the historic altitudes because those are too high for the game. And the contrail is a dead giveaway a lot of newer players don't get.

>>212118093
>>212118492
My bad, I'm not sure who is who anymore haha >>211947125 said 190F and I thought maybe he was confused with 109Fs or just meant 109F and mistyped the 9 and the 0

Who the hell knows, it doesn't really matter, I suppose. Happy flying to all of you, I personally love the 190A-3 in IL-2 and have way too much fun in it. Flown right, you are basically too fast to be caught by almost anyone (not that I'm able to always fly it right - I have a lot to learn, but slowly getting there)
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>>212113697
>>212147071
No i did mean the Fw190F which you see in BoX as the Fw190A-5/U3 and my problem with this is that they are using a fighter-bomber as a pure fighter and not using it for its intended role.
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>>212147904
Going to have to correct myself here as it's the Fw 190 A-5/U17 and not the /U3 which does not include the addiltional 50KG bomb racks and the uprated engine.
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>>212147904
What a stupid thing to complain about, bet you're a real whiny autistic faggot.
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>>212149254
>complaining about lack of realism in a simulator is autism
WEW
L
A
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>>212149546
>thinks il2 is a sim
>thinks its wrong for people to use a FIGHTER-bomber as a fighter
>thinks that particular version 190 was exclusively a bomber
wew indeed
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>>212150090
The Fw-190F isn't a fighter, it's a dedicated ground attack variant with extra armour. As a fighter you're just going to get shat on carrying all that weight.
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>>212150424
If you are flying it the way 190's ought to be flown then its not really an issue, nor does it stop people dominating with it in il2, so whats the problem? Been getting wrecked by 190s lately?
When you fly it, turn fighting doesn't work out for you?
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>>212151027
I don't fly it at all or fight anyone in it, I like simulations, not Il-2 Basically Halo.
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>>212140749
I mean I wouldn't be against it and I agree with most of the things stated I just have slight hope for PS since Squad isn't THAT popular that PS might be total niche and therefore have dedicated people.

I played in some Squad units but the ranges were from total autism "stand in a line, training everyday call your squad lead sir" to "oh yea, dude blaze it 420 just fuck their shit up". None of these appeal to me. I'm all for some milsim but the golden middle ground is impossible to find. Maybe the greatest autism I witnessed in Squad is trying to shoehorn real life infantry tactics that are not giving you any advantage (or even work) ingame into your unit. That would be cool if the unit wasn't trying to be competitive.
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>>212151356
>not Il-2 Basically Halo
Im glad we could find some common ground anon
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>>212151427
I think Shacktac are the only group around that hits that sweet spot, though they play ArmA.
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>>212151427
Arma 2 was good for that before the zombie meme.
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>>212151783
F
Man I remember those times, you could join almost any server and have a good time, then the zombie and life shit started.
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i like il2
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>>212129838
What's wrong with the Spitfire?
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>>212150090
by the time the 190F variant came out the luftwaffe had all kinds of problems, mainly shooting down allied bombers
you really think they would've been so strict to prohibit a fighter-bomber from engaging other planes?
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>>212156981
check your six
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>>212156897
he probably means that it's a bitch to take-off or land in compared to the p51.

personally i only have the mustang and dora in dcs, and taking off in that fucking 190 is such a pain in the ass, compared to the 51
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>>212156897
In DCS its an absolute bitch to land, mostly because of the narrow landing gear, I still struggle with it in landings, even though I can put the 109 down just fine but it did take a lot of practice.
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>>212157056
FUCK NIGGA HE ABOUT TO SH-
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>>212157094
Yeah the Mustang is pretty easy to taxi and take off in. In my first takeoff it did roll left and go straight into the ground as soon as I got airborne, but then I learned you just have to apply right stick and rudder

Is the P-51 any different from this TF-51, besides obviously being a combat variant?
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>>212157549
as far as i know they're identical, minus the guns
i tried them both because one server allowed tf51 as recons and didnt notice any big difference
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oh wow its dcs update day!
or is it?
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>>212156981
>you really think they would've been so strict to prohibit a fighter-bomber from engaging other planes

Not an argument, people who "think" this or that instead of knowing their history belong here:

>>>/wtg/
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>>212158027

hurr durr wtg
you nigtard wouldnt even be fit to join that general
>>>/kys/
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>>212158351
y u mad tho?
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>>212158460
prove me the 190f never flew a CAP mission or you're forever a shit eating nigger and should leave immediately
you have 30 minutes
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>>212157697
last update was almost a month ago now
I reckon they will deliver disappointment
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>>212158527
>meet my unrealistic demands or you're wrong

Do you even know what an argument is kiddo?
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>>212158527
The only known (((CAP))) mission done by Fs were by SKG10 in a wilde sau missions over france. Now can you go back to /wtg/?
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>>212158527
>implying a Ju-87 couldn;t fly CAP if the opposition was pathetic enough

>>>/wtg/
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>>212159138
>>212159053
>>212158964
BTFO NIGGER MONKEYS STAY MAD I WAS RIGHT
BOMBER ONLY MY ASS NIGGER MONKEYS
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>anti bomber armament
>bomber only missions
tòp kèk
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>>212159263
>anti bomber armament
>anti tank gun

you should [pic related] yourself
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>>212159331
>anti tank gun on fighter plane
you stuped
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>>212159387
no, but you are
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wnlf3IK8a8I
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>>212159387
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>>212159547
>not even the same gun
you turd
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>>212159534
>that accent
err no thanks
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>>212159694
Easy lad, we want the goalposts to stay in this postcode.
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>>212159769
>projecting
easy kid, you've already been proven wrong once.
you said the f version was allowed only to bombing mission
WHICH IS FALSE
see ya..
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How's the Mirage these days?
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>>212158850
Its the second time this year that they hold back updates for a whole month.
>2018 will be great
>Buy our FREE TO PLAY game we work really hard promise
>so many new things this year, give us your money so you can PLAY FOR FREE

If i dont get my fixed gazelle lights and a meaningful new feature for the harrier today i will be mildly annoyed.
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CHAD DCS devs being abusive boyfriends and shitting on their VIRGIN costumers' needs
and getting paid at the same time
fucking based
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>>212156897
I love it very much, but it's very difficult to takeoff and land. In flight it's wonderful. I need to get some pedals.
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Third time's the charm I guess

It was all over the place during the approach because I feared I was coming in too slow, so I throttled up and then it started wobbling and yawing off course. But I somehow managed to land it dead center of the runway and keep it there
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>>212159980
>proven wrong
I said the Fw-190 was a ground attack aircraft, not a fighter.

>>>wtg
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>>212162921
you're complaining because pipo dont use it FOR BOMBING ONLY even though historically it didnt you massive faggot
>>>redd*t
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>>212162921
>>212164205
Can you peple talk about ANYTHING without sperging out and flinging shit?
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>>212164308
when you wipe your ass, you're bound to smell shit
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>box update
huh?
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>>212164308
this is a thread about simulator games, it's sperg mecca
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>3. A player will be executed for firing at allies;
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Are there any good campaigns and missions for the WW2 fighters in set in the Caucasus? Flying the TF-51 is giving me the itch to buy one of the warbirds but I probably won't if I also have to buy Normandy and the WW2 assets

What about multiplayer ww2 servers?
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>>212164807
>Are there any good campaigns and missions for the WW2 fighters in set in the Caucasus? Flying the TF-51 is giving me the itch to buy one of the warbirds but I probably won't if I also have to buy Normandy and the WW2 assets
They break almost every patch, but one of my friends is playing the spitfire one for Normandy.

>What about multiplayer ww2 servers?
Very much dead you will have better luck on IL-2
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https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/12826-game-updates/?tab=comments#comment-606652
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first bodenplatte blane available next month
so on what map will we be able to fly it?
and against what?
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>>212164205
Which brings us back to square one:
>complaining about lack of realism in a "simulator" is autism

>>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_G1T21-Fs34

Maybe this will improve your reading comprehension. It won't cure your retardation unfortunately.

>>212164308
welcome to 4chan
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>>212166315
What realism are you talking about?

p47s where employed as ground attackers too are we supposed to fly bomber only missions in BoB?

tempests were used to intercept V1s even though that wasnt their original purpose guess i wont be able to use it to shoot down enemy planes..

>reading comprehension hurr durr

dont even try it, there's no misunderstanding here you're a daft bag of rocks
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>>212168709
Look you magnificently mentally stunted retard, The F series 190 was purpose built for and historically employed as a ground attack plane, not as a fighter. That's all there is to it, no amout of faggorty, strawman arguments or goalpost shifting will change that fact. The Fw-190F was equipped with extra armour. Armour is big, heavy plates of metal that stop shit from killing you. You can't just remove the armour in mid flight you spastic, fucktarded, monumental asshole.

The P47 is a fighter, it was always used as fighter and it just so happened that it was also good at ground attack because it had a radial engine and could carry a lot of stores. Release the stores and it is a fighter again.


Sure, you can use the 190F as a fighter, just like it's possible to put AIM-9's on an A-10. THe idea is that it should be able to defend itself.

It's like how you use shit for a brain. Shit doesn't make for an ideal brain but somehow it manages to guide your feeble, mouth breathing ass through the rudiments of communication with people who are infinitely more highly evolved than you on the internet.

You seriously are the dumbest cunt on /simg/
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>>212169689
>fighter/bomber
>NO ITS JUST BOMBER
>IT ABSOLUTELY CANNOT INTO FIGHTER
>SPECIFICALLY ONLY BOMBING MISSION

you complete shit for brain
literally worse than a wannabe intelligent nigger

I WANT YOU TO READ THIS OUT LOUD TO THE CLASS
TRY NOT TO STUTTER OR STAMMER WHEN YOUR SHAME OVERCOMES YOU
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>>212170074
>The Luftwaffe immediately threw the aircraft into combat supporting the ground troops.

>One individual aircraft was employed, once, on it's LAST MISSION to fight some Beuafighters

You're that agile tank faggot aren't you? How have you not died yet from getting confused and forgetting how to breathe?
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You're both autistic shitters.
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>>212170431
>>One individual aircraft was employed, once, on it's LAST MISSION to fight some Beuafighters
prove me it was the only one you cockgobbler
i posted actual proof of what i said before, planes being reassigned to other tasks based on the current needs, for example late war luftwaffe

now post a valid counterargument with valid sources or get the fuck back to where ever you came from as you said here
>>212158027


>tiger tonk unbeatable
oh look you're that retard that got btfo that time too
when will you fucking learn?
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>>212169709
Now you're talking, any pics of the 3D pit? Is that the Alpha connie or another one?
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>>212170821
>BTFO
That's not even what the argument is about you dumb faggot. Just like last time you drag up some dumb exception to the norm and you still can't get the difference between "exception "and "norm" through your comically retarded failure of a brain.

I'm done talking to you. You're the most obnoxious sack of shit I've ever encountered on the internet, I hope you fucking die you munted millennial fuck
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Here's the discord link for anyone who wants to join

https://discord.gg/fUYyF
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The original post was one guy being annoyed at people taking fighter bombers and sitting at 10k trying to dogfight, how the fuck did you guys screech this loudly, and get to here?
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>>212171037
>claims you're doing something that isnt realistic
>it not historically accurate
>post historical account of it happening
>waaaah waaaah
>doesnt c-count
>y-you meanie m-m-millenial
>fucken younglings not respecting the elders
grab the tissues on your way out you overweight baby

oh dont forget to report the posts that made you feel bad
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>>212171212
shhhh we need the bumps
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>>212170834
What's the Alpha Connie? This is the freeware Team Connie L-1649 Starliner
The VC is functional and proportionally correct, but not anything spectacular looking
>the FE panel is 2D
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>>212171062
im not gay though
and dont need a hug-echochamber to talk about sims
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>>212171062
Can I get tips on how to fuck my dog here?
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>>212171414
It's on avsim

>>212171535
Are you playing a dogfucking simulator?
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>>212171286
your example is just an example, if I find a dog that plays piano it's not an indication that ALL dogs can play piano

my god you are thick.
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>>212171698
just stop hurting yourself, turn off the Computer for a little while.

come back in a couple of hours and read the posts again, you'll figure out your mistakes..

im getting tired of calling you a retard
:)
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>>212171868
According to your logic the Boeing 707 is an aerobatic plane then since it can do this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaA7kPfC5Hk

Oh, wait, it's an airliner after all and you're still a spastic who can't disseminate between

R U L E

and

E X C E P T I O N
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>>212172035
>i posted actual proof of what i said before, planes being reassigned to other tasks based on the current needs, for example late war luftwaffe

buddy, take a seat and have long relaxed breaths

your attempts at arguing are pathetic, your hyperbole goalpost moving is off the scale

it is time to stop
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>>212172253
>proof
>example

Pick one

BTFO again huh? never mind, there's always >>>wtg or a job at the History Channel.
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>>212171062
>https://discord.gg/fUYyF
invalid.
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>>212171612
>no results for "Alpha Constellation"
can you post link?
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https://discord.gg/666ubYa
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>>212172540
buddy, you're in no position to make fun of anyone.

i proved to non-retarded people that your "designated BOMBER ONLY FW190F8"
took part in NON-BOMBER operations, thanks to the nature of that plane and the urgent necessity of planes from the luftwaffe.

It is therefore reasonable to allow this kind of plane to take part in more than 1 type of mission in simulators such as IL2.

Now feel free to relieve your not-so-well hidden mental disorder in any way you like.
(;
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>>212173025
>muh exception to the rule is proof of the rule being wrong.

Nice logic bro,
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>>212172795
Sorry dude, I can't find it. It's not the one on Calclassic tho, it's either on Flightsim.com or Simviation if it isn't on Avsim. I downloaded too many plens and I can't get up.
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>>212173025
Listen, F variants have nearly half a ton of extra armor below the fuselage to protect vital components from ground fire. That they are physically capable of engaging aircraft is irrelevant, when you consider that the Doras do not have this handicap, taking any ground attack-designed 190 into an air-supremacy mission is retarded, and no amount of calling the other guy autistic changes this simple fact.
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>>212172980
>>212171062
why do you people invite anons from here and at the same time shun the thread for being
"full of shitposters"?

gay af
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>>212173838
at what point did i say the F variant was the top notch ace-making luftwaffe fighter?
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>>212173974
there he goes with the goalposts again, I'm sure he just baits for bumps. nobody is this retarded.
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>>212174079
there he gets triggered again, im sure he skipped his pills today, nobody's this autistically hysterical.
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>>212174417
>projecting
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Alright you autistic faggots.
To the fuckhole who was bitching about people using the 190A5 as a fighter in il2, thats right an A5, capital fucking A not F if it was an F it would be called that but its not, the modifications made to give the designation u17 was a PROTOTYPE for the F3.
And surprise fucking surprise the u17 modifications is actually a selectable modification in il2 adding everything to an A5 that eventually made it into an F3.
So no it is not unrealistic for people to fly the A5 as a fighter, since without the u17 mods and a center rack which was easily removed in the field, that is what it fucking was.
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>>212174685
b-but muh fighter/BOMBER
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>>212174685
Uses Il-2 as a reference

>AYYY LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>212175485
>more proof against him
>so desperate he's got to keep up the act instead of admitting of being wrong

you' re an amusing one, keep it up
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>>212175838
>additional mass 218kg

Really makes you think
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>>212175485
>il2 as a reference
That was the original argument, nigger.
Speaking of reference's, how many have you provided? Oh that's right none.
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>>212176053
>needing [citations] to prove the obvious
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discofags wont be allowed to return once they have to delet their furry club due to privacy leaks
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>modify a fighter to carry ground ordnance
>now I have a fighter/bomber
>remove those modifications
>what would it be now?
Really made me think
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>>211979925
tbqh i dont mind that moved slightly into the future but god damn the vehicles are all over the place
i know the marshall is finnish
the afv-4 gorgon is austrian
the marid is fucking turkish
the strider is from the netherlands
and i could go on
the vehicles are all over the place and its annoying, if the csat was military equipment from russia and china only and nato was nato countries only then that would be fine since most of the equipment is either in active use or were prototypes but then to top it all off you get stupid shit like the y-32 xi'an
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>>212177312
Do you even Rutsatz bro?
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>>212177312
>I'll just unweld this 218kg of armour on my lunch break
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>blanes have ARMORez, i saw it on danddunder
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>>212173646
No worries, it is the CalClassic Connie. I just installed like 40 blens last night I know your feel...
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Stop it
please
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the computer is much happier this time, with the scenery detail turned down
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>>212064936
And what you going to do about it, big boy?
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It begins

Soon DCS servers will be dead and the game will be unplayable
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Don't die
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dash flight complete, time for lunch
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Welp. Everything was going fine until it started bouncing like crazy upon touching down, and then everything went the opposite of fine

So far it's one bad but not catastrophic landing, one "at least I didn't break anything" landing, one perfect landing and one fiery death.
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>>212190302
>DCS's life cycle.jpg
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>>212190302
Don't let the nose drop, add a quick burst of power to cushion the descent after a bounce. If it starts getting out of control go around.
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>>212191730
Should I retract the flaps when I touch down? Maybe they contribute to the bouncing by increasing lift
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>>212191852
No, don't touch them. Just focus on keeping the aircraft under control.
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Awesome update as usual by 777
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>>212193583
Yes, unironically great update. My AI 190A3s can actually takeoff and land nowwithout spinning out and crashing.
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What difficulty should you use for IL2 campaigns? I want AI that flies realistically, but also don’t want to get shot down from a mile out
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>>212198398
The medium setting
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>select clear weather in mission editor
>lmao here's a snowstorm and lots of wind
Well at least I got the chance to practice landing in less than ideal conditions, which went better than expected

Is this normal with prop planes? Landing it super nice and smooth one flight, then fucking up and dying in a fireball in the next?
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Is landing and take off in IL2 unrealistically easy? There seem to be a lot of posts about the difficulty of doing this stuff in DCS but I could do both perfectly first try in IL2
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>>212207702
It's not hard if you have an idea of what you are doing, but a lot of new players complain anyways that it's impossible to take off in a 109, which is funny to me. The aircraft in CLoD are also harder to take off than in BoX. I guess I don't really know, just wanted to add my 2 cents
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>>212207702
>There seem to be a lot of posts about the difficulty of doing this stuff in DCS
If you're talking about me it's just that it's my first time trying props in DCS and I'm basically winging it, haven't read the manual or done any training missions yet

I gotta do the cold start tutorial some day
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god damn /vg/, slow down
shit
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>because you're going to ask what it is
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Brainlet question, how does Chaff work to fool SARH missiles when the missile is following the radar return and the radar on the target is being painted by a plane? Wouldn't the missile still follow the locked plane even if it deploys chaff, then?
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>>212171062
Don't join it, it's a bunch of gay furries trying to fucking ERP with people. Left that shithole in an instant.
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>>212216979
simple answer is the chaff gets painted by the radar as well, and reflects and equal or greater amount of electromagnetic energy as returned by the target aircraft
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>>212217540
But if an aircraft is beaming, how will the chaff get painted by the radar? It would just fly out the back and away from the plane, right?
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>>212216979 >>212217875
pretty much what >>212217540 said
basically it creates a second image of itself
which one is the real one when both look similar
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>>212217875
>assuming that the radar is only pointing in the direction of the aircraft
tracking and locking are computer functions, not antenna motions
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>>212218492
>>212218357
I see, so the idea is to trick the computer of the locking plane.
Thanks.
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>>212218962
no problem
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Why are you all in this thread right now instead of pew pewing virtual socialists, (whether of the international or national variety)?
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I've already done a flight today, and am hardcore procrastinating on homework
send help
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>>212221604
Do your homework while on route to your target
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>>212220528
Waiting for bobo so I can body krauts in my glorious western planes
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>>212224809
They said there will be early access in about a month
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>>212225010
I hope the spit IX is first
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>>212225239
Clipped wing sexiness I hope
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>>212225571
The wingtips will be a modification for it I bet
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>>212225658
Good call.I also want the p47, but I think we will hae to wait on that. The last dev blog showed the Spit and the 109G10(?)
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>>212226002
G-14.

I honestly think the Spit will shit all over the 109 G-14
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>>212221826
that's pretty much how I manage to survive school in the first place
my target is a landing at the destination airport
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>>212171612
>dogfucking simulator
When?
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>>212232508
Don't let the thread die on this post.
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>>212232508
i wonder
if ivan or kras find out one of them is cheating on em, will they go on a gay killing spree?
looking forward to that
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>>212226286
the g14 had the mw-50 right?
so i guess maybe faster?
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>>212238575
G14 was the fastest 109, wasn't it? I think like anything else, this will mostly come down to pilot performance, but the 109 was starting to really show its age at that point in the war anyway
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>>212239409
no the g14 was basically an upgraded g-6 with a better canopy an the engine boost
slightly worse than a g-10 which also had the bulges on the engine cowling removed.

the top of the line, which we should get in BoB is the K-4.
that would be the fastest 109.

But yes all the late war variants were really having problems with keeping up with the allied planes.
they kept giving 109s better, stronger engines to make them faster, but at the cost of making them heavier.
the spit mk9 LF should outclimb them all easily(except maybe for the k4 not sure).

A better suited opponent for the spit would be the D9 which we'll get with the premium version.

To that add fast AF tempests at lower alt and fast AF p38s and p47/51 at higher altitude and yea it's gonna be a mess for the luftwaffe..

dont wanna imagine how the servers will stack up..
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>>212198398
Save yourself the frustration and use the Uninstall difficulty setting. Life gets easier when you play SP in a sim with better AI.
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>>212242859
>play SP in a sim with better AI
>sim with better AI

As opposed to what? DCS S- oh wait, DCS A-... oh yeah...lol
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>>212242859
>not just endlessly playing SP campaigns in 1946
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Anybody watching Jive Turkey's videos on the Cold Waters SCS campaign? Looks like it's going to be a bitch with the shallow water

>spoiler: the water's probably not that cold
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>>212250469
i do, but i don't have the game.
he looks like a nice guy and answers all kinds of questions in his streams
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>>212250469
If your getting into CW then Jive is the man to go too for all your questions, he used work in the navy in a sub.
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>>211913382
How well would a MiG 23 fair against a MiG 21?
MiG 23 is deigned more with speed/ acceleration in mind. MiG 21s can handle themselves in a dogfight.

I know fuck all about chinkshit but from reading the J8 wiki, it's completely inferior to the MiG 23 in regards to tech and armament (I didn't bother looking up the missiles and guns- we all know they'll be worse than slavshit).

I'd say the Flogger would kill the J-8 before they get into a dogfight.
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I want Bodenplatte only for the Meme-262 and the Tempest
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>>212258189
for me it's the tempest and p38
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Give me ONE
(one)
reason I shouldn't buy a virpil throttle.
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>>212261567
Give me ONE
(one)
reason you just page-10 bumped this thread
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>>212255669
idk about the J8, as far as I know it's just a Mig-21MF. Not even a bis.
Radar-wise, you're correct. The Mig-21 never had a very good radar, you would have to look to the 90's to find the first instance of it having look-down-shoot-down.
In a dogfight the Mig-21 would crush the 23. If it were a question of all-heaters, it would depend on how fast the Mig-21 could close the distance on the 23, otherwise 23 takes it.
Basically any fight outside of knife range is the 23's territory in that battle.
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>>212261602
Because it's /simg/ and we almost never reach autosage. The only reason we survive during prime time is because of tank-fag showing us pictures of burning slavshit.
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Also I'm not seeing a reason why I shouldn't buy a virpil throttle.
350 bucks.
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>>212261943
looks cool, however I think the throttle position is a problem, looks like it would be uncomfortable if you had this on your desk, probably cannot do one of those vice grip type ledge mounts with the throttle up in the corner like that.
Looks like it its purely made to have in a sim pit or mounted directly on your side.
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>>212262150
That's actually a very fair point that I hadn't considered. In fact here it is in the promo shots mounted on a desk mount.
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>>212262495
guess it looks alright in that pic, how much are those mounts?
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>>212261943
i mean i dont see the appeal of changing hotases like a dress every once in a while

i usually stick with what i have until it breaks
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eopkl4bn7cs

wow this simdad was woke, he already gave up on ED in 2015
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>>212240063
I think the most outclassed aircraft will be the A-8. Meat on the table to Spitfires and Tempests at low altitude and 40mph slower than mustangs and thunderbolts at high altitude. They might give it the sturmbock modification to make it slightly less likely to be destroyed but still.
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>>212264387
>ksp vids
subscribbed
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>>212270207
AA
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GETTING BLOWN

TOP KEK
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>>212274224
Cute little rocket pods
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>>212261943
>>212262495
They both look the part together but that throttle doesn't exactly look all that secure the way it is. Looks like it has no real support on the end where the logo is.
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Am I welcome here bois, the Reds are pushing through and it makes me sad
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