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Independence masterrace edition

>What is Pillars of Eternity
A CRPG developed by Obsidian Entertainment. The game is a successor to the Baldur's Gate and Icewind Dale series, along with Planescape: Torment.

>Official links
https://eternity.obsidian.net/
https://www.fig.co/campaigns/deadfire

>Custom Portrait Pack
https://mega.nz/#F!ZJZyFYiY!0JlE01gWkA9c8gGN9hp4GA

>NEWS
Patch 1.1.0.0035 is up, along with some FREE beards and hairstyles
Patch notes:
https://forums.obsidian.net/topic/101944-patch-notes-for-1100035/
Rum runner's pack is out
https://twitter.com/WorldofEternity/status/999700759896702976

Main theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbIPL0tKrRM
Launch trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXYDsp7BnFo
Backer update 47 is up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrOrI59oLio
Post release content announced:
https://eternity.obsidian.net/news/pillars-of-eternity-ii-deadfire-post-launch-content-announced
Scavenger Hunt is complete (steam only):
https://eternity.obsidian.net/news/pillars-of-eternity-ii-deadfire-announces-the-seafarers-scavenger-hunt
Spoonfeed link to all codes:
https://forums.obsidian.net/topic/95782-the-deadfire-scavenger-codes-everything-we-know-so-far

Previous thread: >>217619243
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My Goldpact Paladin is taking "the invisible hand" a bit too literally.
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huana deserve slavery
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There is so much more reactivity toward Godlike in Deadfire, that was one of the most ridiculous things in the first game having nobody really give a shit and they even handwaved the headwear restriction away for the scene where it would have been relevant.
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>>217855542
It's the only class with reactivity now
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>>217855542
Just dont play a death godlike, otherwise your character will be making more smiles and eye gestures than reactivity.
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>>217853792
>Dorfsader
You need a name gen, or a brain, anon
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>>217857507
>Not naming your characters what they are.
It's like you don't actually experiment and need to catalog properly.
Dwarven Goldpact+Fighter. That class combination is crusader.
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>>217856767
Except Deathlikes still have eyes and a mouth. Their mouths are often just obvious and the eye covers are canonically only opaque from the outside.
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>>217858537
So that begs the question, how the fuck are people seeing these gestures?
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>>217858741
Sloppy Obsidian writing.
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>>217858967
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

SLOW BURN

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>217858741
Reactivity is good but jeez anon do you really expect them to omit or rewrite all facial gestures for death godlikes?
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>>217860359
Is that too much to ask? It's like making dwarves and elves answer to the same triggers.
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>>217860654
>Dwarves
>Can loot the highest shelf
Unimmerisve/10 WGOTY Fuck Dawi.
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>>217860359
DOS2 did it for undeads, you know.
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>>217860654
It's just really fucking specific. Jokes about Obsidian's management or budget aside, I couldn't see something that small merit the investment. But who knows.

>>217861176
True, though undead were one of the major races, not a subrace in a game with a whole lot of them.
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>>217860886
I mean Deadfire has no leg to lean on. If the combat's worse than the first game you have to rely on the narrative. As somebody said last thread:
>playing a crpg for combat
So? How's the narrative? Well they can't remember what they wrote last game for one.
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>>217861315
>True, though undead were one of the major races, not a subrace in a game with a whole lot of them.
This is called attention to details and highly appreciated by everyone.
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>>217861345
>As somebody said last thread:
>playing a crpg for combat
I unironically love crpg combat
to me, it is beautiful
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>>217861345
>playing a crpg for combat
That's literally what I asked last thread.
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>>217861996
Yeah so here we are. Obsidian can't remember the specifics of a race that they themselves created. So the combat's mediocre and they certainly didn't put their best into the world. What's next?
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>>217861525
I'm saying the level of detail isn't on the same level. Complaining about reactivity on the level of races or something is valid but complaining about facial gestures on death godlikes is pedantic
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storywise the only likeable faction to me was the prinicipi, with all their faults they manage to create a nice sense of order in the isles
I believe the Rautai would create the best deadfire for those who live there
and the independent is the best ending for the watcher who wants to be the badass legend

but there is no faction regardless of sides taken worse than the VTC
>jews huana out of property rights
>grinds up the luminous adra
>for profit
>admits to having no long term plans for the area
you know, the stuff with all the souls of dead people in it
as much as I disliked the Glanfathans at the start of poe1 I think they might have had the right idea, the adra needs to be protected
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>>217862335
>but complaining about facial gestures on death godlikes is pedantic
What's next, no loot boxed are an unique feature and a normal level of details is WHOOA NOW THIS IS AAA I CAN'T BELIEVE THE MADMEN ACTUALLY DID IT? Fuck off, I hope you'll never work in gamedev.
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>>217862335
But there's almost no reactivity at all for any of the races except godlikes (the one race that Obsidian created). There's one height joke for dwarves/orlan and then what, people recognizing you're from the same area as them?
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>>217862502
You clearly don't play for the narrative. Did you actually play the VTC questline, ever? They do have longterm plans for the area. Do you just believe everything everyone else says about their competitors uncritically?
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>>217862502
It bugs me how casual people are in the PoE setting about souls in general. Everyone KNOWS they have functional immortality and they fuck with the thing that gives it to them.
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>>217862761
I dont care that much about the storyline but, did you do the task "coming to terms"
the valian guy who writes contracts admits that he knows hes screwing the huana and that they dont care about it after the luminous adra is gone

nothing I heard from any of the competitors was as damning as what I heard from them
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>>217863214
Do they though? I don't remember anybody talking about the function of adra or reincarnation. Maybe the animancers but most people thought they were using some kind of satanic black magic right?
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>>217863319
This game's pretty anti-west. All the side stories have to do with slavery and anti-colonization. It's not a coincidence that everybody's a nigger either.
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>>217863523
not exactly sure if that's true. or it's one of those cases of unintentionally going against what you meant, since the imperialist RDC is almost inarguably one of the best final results for the Deadfire
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>>217863523
>Anti-west and anti-colonization
>The natives are retarded and self-destructive
>Capitalism is a better answer than them
>Colonists do a better job taking care of the locals compared to them
>SCIENCE!!! with a slight tinge of slavery is arguably the best ending
This is what happens when you never take off the "I AM AT HE VICTIM" goggles
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>>217863523
Is this bait?

The game absolutely drives home how hopeless and dysfunctional the natives are. There is no conclusion where they don't need foreigners to save them from themselves.
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>>217863523
it does a good job of making everyone look terrible desu, almost every huana quest makes them seem like a bunch of backwards savages who rely on tradition+caste system to the point of detriment and the gutter proves their failure, along with the tikiwara sidequests.

Rautai would be the best, but a lot of their methods are either to shady or involve to much brute force, and they just kill any leader who doesn't want to play ball
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>>217864714
>>217864696
>>217864418
absolutely based. I'm glad we all agree Huana are a bunch of complete fucking retards who are destroying themselves far more efficiently than any foreign power
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>>217865169
>there are still 3 people who sided with huana, according to the local strawpoll
SEARCH AND DESTROY
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>>217863319
Him. A low-level clerk. Did you talk to the regional director at all?
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So are sidekicks anything other than a created adventure you have to talk to first?
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>>217865427
it's like they tried to make the Huana as unlikable as possible. I almost sided with them just because it's their nation and I believed in their right to their own sovereignty, but there's literally not a single redeeming factor about them.
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>>217865632
They've got portaits that match their starting gear.
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>>217865716
Divine right. Literal divine right btw, not "I'm king and need to legitimize my rule". But they ironically fucked it up by letting foreigners in in the first place, so now they can't expel them.
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has anyone unironically sided with Crookspur?

2 playthroughs and both times I run in and kill them
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>>217865632
I think they have EXTREMELY limited reactivity (I think I saw on the reactivity chart that each one reacts to 3 or less conversations) if that's worth anything
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>>217865427
Huana will rise...
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>>217865784
that's true, but most people's Watchers will rightfully hate all the gods so you'd want to fuck them all over anyway
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>>217862335
-Ctrl+F the dialogue for eye(brow), cheek, face, lips, blush etc
-Add a trigger to every option that results in your watcher emoting
-If death godlike, that dialogue option is replaced with a silent stare [stoic]

Pretty sure it would take 20 minutes to do.
Since the writers already knew death godlike existed, they could've had the amazing foresight of either avoid facial expressions or tagging that in the same way you would for other reactivity, making it even easier.

>its too much to ask, they only had a 4 million budget!
Fuck you too buddy
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>>217866180
Ekera, Ngati will protect us, r-right guys..??
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>>217865632
Sidekicks have maybe 3 to 4 interjections in the entire game at best and no dialogue and banter whatsoever. They are mostly unfinished companions, that Obsidian didn't have the budget to flesh out, so they cut 95% of their content and aded anyway. It's called "a feature", you see.
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>>217866664
Currency manipulation is the lowest form of economic competition.
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>>217867015
Josh threw them in as a filler stretch goal and set Ydwin Companion impossibly high. Feels bad man.
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>>217867015
They would have turned out bad too

Oh, Xoti. Lets recruit her.
>Hyuck hyuck, I'm an air headed hick who's religious to a fault
Alright, just keep it down ok?
>Daw shucks, Eder why don't you want to pork me? Is it because of my stinky pussy?
Xoti can you calm down?
>EDER PLEASE LOVE ME
Uhh Watcher, I don't know what to do about Xoti
I'm at a loss too Eder.
>Watcher I see things sometimes
Oh cool
>Yeah they're waking nightmares
Ok...
>They happen all the time with no warning
Yeah...?
>I'm having one right now
Yeah I don't care
>WATCHER THERE'S WEIRD ASS SHINING SHIT HAPPENING RIGHT NOW
That's cool, can it wait until after we're out of the bathhouse?
>W...watcher... I...I can't go on l..like this. The visions.. they're too much.
1. (Eat her dirty hick pussy)
2. (Shrug)
Shrug.
>Oh... I see.. I understand... t...tell Eder I.. tell him I would have let him put it anywhere he wanted...
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>>217869045
That's an interesting interpretation of things, almost like you were looking to dislike it.
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>>217869045
That's pretty accurate.
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>>217869192
After restarting the game 10 times in 120 hours it gets old real fast.
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>>217869272
*eet getz ol' reel fasht
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>>217865169
In colonial terms they're basically somewhere between Koreans dealing with Japan and India dealing with the British. It's like "Gee I really want to root for you, but look at all those fucking slaves (or "lower caste") like god damn"
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>>217869736
Yeah, the gullet was the final nail in the huana's coffin.
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Josh, balance your news
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>>217870427
Pfft. haha. Imagine what the code looks like
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>>217869272
That sounds like a personal problem and 120 hours is not a small amount to sink into game.
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>>217870603
It is around here
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>>217870869
You have brain problem if you think 10 playthroughs of something you dislike is normal.
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>>217871002
Playthroughs? I was testing builds, I only finished the game once and that was after hearing the ending was dogshit so I rushed.
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>>217871002
There are some very refined tastes here
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>>217865604
I have never met a leader who would say he was doing terrible things
to get the truth, you have to talk to the people that work for him

kinda like the Rautai and Maia
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>>217869045
I want to stretch out Xoti's dirty hick pussy
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>in last playthrough I had two Marisha Rays in the party
>now I have two Laura Baileys
>mfw
Thank god it's piss easy to remove CR maymay lines from the voice packs
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CUTE
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>>217869045
wow, that's a lot of butthurt for a single autist.
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>>217873243
Almost makes you forget he murdered his wife for no reason.
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>>217873397
Berathfags are weirdos
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>>217873397
It's the law (that he himself made)
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>>217873452
In his defense he must have been doing something right in Berath's eyes, because otherwise I don't really know how he would have become a death guard without the pale mommy's okay
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>>217874003
You can become a Death Guard by power of autism.
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>>217874003
Well, Berath mommy allowed the retard to challenge us again, so it was probably xher way to tell him to kys.
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>>217868315
I really bugs the fuck out of me. Why did they need almost 1.2 million dollars to flesh out a companion? Are they this expensive? Beacuse I'm not buying the "we didn't have time" and "it's too much work" excuse, given how little content companions have anyway.
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>>217869045
Yeah, that's about right when you think about it. Ydwin seems very cool and interesting now, but taken into account how this affinity system works, the minute you recruit her, she would lose all nuance and will become a cardboard cutout mad sciencetist that loves animancy and clever/worldly/proud responses and will try to fuck you "for science" once her approval value is high enough.
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How are the touch spells for wizard? I want to make a monk/wizard and I think starting combat with a touch spell would be pretty cool.
I wish there were higher level versions of them, I think the Concelhaut's Draining Touch(lvl 3) is highest.
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>>217875453
I think the problem is that the relationship system just keeps your mind on your companion's opinions too much. Every conversion becomes more about what they think than what you actually want to do because of it
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>>217875590
the main issue with touch spells is you still have to cast them, as fast as that cast may be. As a monk you could just punch them instead.
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>>217875712
A shame. Why would balanceman give them those casting times?
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>>217875712
I don't really understand what niche a wizmonk is really good for in the first place. Would you use it for a summoned weapon thing?
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It's fun to piss off mom
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>>217876803
wiz got amazing, long duration self buffs. Fleet Foot, Spirit armor for lvl 1, Merciless Eye, Infuse with vital essence for level 2, Displaced image and Deleterious alacrity on lv 3, etc.

You can just pick the self buffs and concentrate on killing stuff with melee or range. Lengrath book (that you can buy in the Dark Cupboard) got almost all of them too

Just setup your AI to buff itself at combat start then go ham.
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>>217876803
It's good for this rp.
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If Josh won't let me be a pyromaniac, I'll do it myself
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>>217877065
it's cute the way she pronounces wheel and whim as "hweel" and "hwim"
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>>217879267
By the way, if there an enchantment for Flames of Devotion?
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How the hell do I keep my main character alive in boarding battles?

He's always the closest to the majority of enemies and even if I immediately try to run as far away as possible he gets decimated by gunshots.
I've done about 8 boarding battles now and not a single one has my main character lived longer than 5 seconds.
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>>217880915
Get a tankier main character.
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>>217881001
But that's why I have Eder.
My main character isn't squishy by any means. But he's not designed to be the tank. He's designed to be able to hold his own if targeted but with a focus on damage.

it's just not good enough to survive the 6+ enemies shooting at him as soon as the battle loads.
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>>217881458
Does the main character always start in front or does it go by party order?
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>>217880915
Just do ship combat until you main character has higher deflection. I had this problem with my wizard for the first few levels. Eventually I did the archmage quest, got arkemyr's tome, and just cast his invisibility spell at the start of every fight so enemies would forget he existed. Maybe stock up on some invisibility potions or something.

It's dumb as shit that these types of games put your main character at the front of event battles, especially if enemies lock on to the first target they see.
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>>217880915
>How the hell do I keep my main character alive in boarding battles?
to give advice we need info such as
>mc lvl
>gear
>class
without knowing the situation, the best we can provide is advice that will most likely be disappointing or meme tier
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>>217881526
He's always been starting top right for me, which is closest to all the enemies. Haven't tried switching party order but I've noticed after fighting at sea Eder's position keeps switching from second to 5th. So dunno if it'd help.
couldn't hurt to try though.

>>217881593
I'm still winning the boarding battles even if the main character dies immediately. It's just a real pain in the ass having to keep going to rest from injuries without any way to really avoid it.

>>217881648
It's pretty much start of the game. Got my ship, sailed around, explored, and fought pirates. Everyone is weak as shit.
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>>217881970
if its the start of the game I would try changing your formation, attempting to win a ship battle, or avoid the ship battles until you aquire more money to buy better ship gear, every ship battle in the game is avoidable
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I am dumb.
I have 4 diplomacy, Aloth 3, +=7, right?
I have a diplomacy problem in Deadlight fort.
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>>217882816
Check how much dip you have in the line itself.
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>>217883218
7.
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Oh for fuck's sake, really? Pillar of Liquidity?
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>>217883434
So what's the problem? How much do you need?
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>>217883498
Oh, nevermind. Its was a bug(?), now all works.
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>>217883706
Shot in the dark here, but being too far away from a companion means you don't get a bonus from them for skills. Not really a bug, but tedious
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Whoa there buddy, calm down
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>>217884779
It's hard to think of a man with less to lose than one who was turned into a toy fortune telling robot
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>>217884676
My companions being near me, but it wasn't work, until i load a previous save.
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>>217884891
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I like imps
Some fine laugh once in a while
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>>217884992
EH!
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>>217884779
Could that kill you if you already had three injuries?
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>>217885118
Possibly
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>>217884779
>check the injury
>concussion: -20 will
Ouch
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>>217885046
EH, You don't have time you have to MAKE time *thoughtfull chin grab*
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>5 party limit

this still breaks my heart
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>>217886392
4 is the ideal party size.
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>>217886489
No.
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>>217885118
>>217885249
>recruit Sagani early so I can get the most out of her before inevitable dump for Pallegina
>she's a much better fit than I remembered & Itumaak is a tremendous help as a decoy
>mfw always used him as a disposable "tank" / DMG sponge for the first hits + spells

Then I noticed this during a random fight. It's been a while since the last rest but still. I practically ran poor fella into the ground.
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>>217886489
back2divinity4u
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One brothel can't handle TWO fiery whores
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>>217883457

>Aloth rolls his eye’s

I’m with him on this one
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>can't find a single good boatswain anywhere
>the one potentially good one ends up being my helmsman because I can't get a ship with a boatswain slot until it's too late
The fuck is this
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That's... something. Wonder what the "additional effects" of Shadespawn are.
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>>217888164
The best boatswain is Luca, from the VTC headquarters. Only one in the game that can reach 4 star in boatswainin'
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>>217888164
>>217890089
The fuck does boatswain even do for you mechanically
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>you can get both scenes with -2 and +2 Aloth, and kiss him both times too
>+2 scene doesn't react to -2 quarrel
You had ONE job, Patel. At least +1 scene after you get -1 with him and he apologizes for judging you too early was great.
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>>217890235
He counts as a deckhand, is implicated in a few interactions at sea, and counts for more in ship combat event (say you got deck on fire or torn sail shit, he helps solve it faster)
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An outcome for non-dishonored Palle + Galawain ending. Fucking Dyrwood, the absolutely madmen.
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>want to solo assassin
>cant because deadfire story is so shit
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>>217890664

>Dyrwood wins a war against the Republics even after the Legacy

Based
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>>217893334
That's galaGAINS for you.
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>>217893334
>VTC btfo by Dyrwood
This is just pottery.
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so
where do i find the update hotfix to download?
i dont want to download the game all over again just to get the patch
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>>217893721
https://goggames.goodolddownloads.com/game/pillars_of_eternity_ii_deadfire
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so
is might good in assassins?
i mean backstab and sheeit
>>217893895
but i only want to download the patch
i tried but i can only download the whole game in this link you gave me
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>watching the beta lets plays of kingmaker
oh god
the await, it hurts
and no doubt it will take at least 4-3 more months
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Why josh fucked defensive mind web so hard? Why a 80 focus spell is trash while charm is still untouched?
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>>217886871
You need to patch.

>>217894327
Might is additive at +3% per point. Dex is multiplicative at the same rate. Base Sneak Attack is 30%, scaling up with PL. Let' look at an example.
Base damage: 100
Base attack speed 10 second recovery
You can have 20 might and do 16 dps
Or you can have 10 might and 20 dex and do 16.9 dps

That's at level 1 with no other bonuses. Now let's see what happens at PL 9.
30% sneak attack is now 70%
20 might 20 DPS
20 dex 22.1

Dex is your martial damage stat unless you're going for some burst cheese that requires nova striking one target ASAP.
(Base attack speed number/damage obviously pulled out of my ass for ease of math)
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>make a warlock
>don't expect much because it usually never works out the way I want
>envision an explosive pyromancer warrior dealing big crits with a greatsword
>early levels are actually ok with the right buffs and AI settings, though a bit squishy and taking a lot of damage from berserker frenzy
>fan of flames hits hard if it doesn't miss, leap and torrent of flames is great, fireball is a good way to start a fight out of stealth and to destroy sigils
>late game, stacking buffs in an instant, enrage, leap into a crowd, delayed fireball and torrent of flame for huge aoe burst damage while protected by several layers of buffs and bonus from items, dealing increased damage to anyone who hits him with fire shield which can crit, while actively seeking out low health enemies to barbaric smash for refundable resources, extended frenzy, and stacking attack speed and fire damage per kill
This is all I wanted desu. I have tried so often and for so long to make my explosive spellsword in so many games and this is pretty much how I wanted one to play.
Unfortunately he's already almost at level cap and running out of game to play. Hope the DLC will be alright with high level characters so I can appreciate it more.
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>>217895172
>>217895172
oh i see
there is any worth dagger for an backstab burst assassin?
i really dont see a assassin backstabing people with a zweihander
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>>217895438
Then stop. Because backstab and assassin's kit encourages the largets single damage attacks you can and making them into the biggest, beefiest crit you can.
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>>217895438
There is a good dagger hiding in some engwithans ruins, but you use daggers for their modal, nothing else.

>not sneaking behind someone and chopping their head off.
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POST CHARACTER NAMES
Harald-Meadow folk human
Avden-Pale elf
Maphee-Mountain dwarf
Utaru-Island Aumaua
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>No option to decline specific bounties while still accepting the next one
Gay.
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>>217899929
yeah I dunno why they changed that from the way they worked in PoE1
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>>217883457
>implying that wouldn't be the first thing you'd do if you had watershaper powers
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>>217903667
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ded game
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>>217903948
yeah
the game is so bad that i returned to play bg because of it
i do not regret
also
i hope kingmaker doesnt disapoint us as deadfire
hell, even codex is following the hype of kingmaker
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>>217895240

Sounds like a pretty neat build, desu
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>play first PoE for an hour or so
>notice that my character has wrong hairstyle
Five wagons grope blindly ..
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>>217907157
Can't you just change your Watcher's appearance whenever?
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I want to make an insane orlan who dual-wields hatchets and moves like a hyperactive squirrel on speed. My autismo however requires a proper portrait to go with the character and all the official portraits are bland as fuck.
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>>217908982
lolno. Only colors,portrait and voice can be changed.
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>>217908982
In deadfire yes, but not in Pillars 1. If you fuck up it's back to the caravan with you.
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I love judging people. Not only this was one of main selling point of Tyranny back then, but it even had the power to somewhat save major clusterfucks (like that atrocious offline MMO called DA: Inquisition) too.

>>217907157
To be fair, (almost) no models / assets match the official portraits in PoE. Unless you exhaust the character creation options first then try to find a fitting portrait to what you have it's simply best to ignore this part.
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This game has no character
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>>217911735
You are soulless.
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>>217909318
Fucking import your own portrait. It's piss-easy.
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>>217911735
true actually
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Page 10 you fucks.
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>>217913959
I've made portraits. The point is good orlan ones are hard to come by.
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>>217917721
It's time to die.
Berath commands it.
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>>217917962
Just pick a Draph from Granblue and pretend it's an Orlan.
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>>217918252
that which is dead cannot die
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>>217918252
Honestly this gmae needs to die. In no way does it shine a good light on Obsidian or CRPGs in general. It's amazing how the first game was "The resurrection of classic CRPGs" and the very next game is "Oh shit, lets just forget about that."
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>>217918616
Deadfire is a good game.
It's dead, but it's a good game that I'll keep playing despite said deadness.
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>>217919416
>good
i dont want to know what is bad for you
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>>217919732
Your mum.
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>>217919793
oh i see
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>>217918616
I wonder what could have been done to make Deadfire actually memorable. I mean, the idea was fucking boring form the start, right from the Figstarter campaign - with bland companion concepts being introduced (with Pallegina and Aloth being reintroduced) and weird idea of following a Godzilla-sized god through Deadfire + throwing generic factions in with no connection to that. The writing was on the wall all along. It's quite tragic that people became *actually* excited when Obsidian introduced Ydwin as a sidekick and later as a potential full companion in that bullshit streach goal, beacuse, apparently that's what the majority wanted in the first place.
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>>217920065
Josh redesigned the whole game based solely on Pillars feedback from random tards on Something Awful. Imagine sinking an entire franchise in a failed attempt to appease dicklicker69.
GOON SQUAD BRAH
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>>217920065
i don't think they utilized the faction relations to their full potential. you don't get forced to choose a side until near the end of the main questline. before you're forced to choose, you can still complete the majority of quests for any faction
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>>217921034
Biggest fuck up was nobody giving a fuck how many of their ships you sank. (And having no generic ships. What the fuck? One jackass with a competent crew can cripple all shipping in the Deadfire indefinitely?)
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>>217921260
It's funny that you can do that with the starting ship.
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>>217921260
There are generic ships, deadfire merchants.
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>>217920667
speaking of feedback, unless i missed something this game doesn't appear to send telemetry to obsidian. are forums and social media their only sources of feedback for the game?
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>>217920667
>>217921034
"You're not going to be able to just sail to the end game island and beat the game"
>meanwhile the PotD speedrun is 20 minutes long

Was the game drastically redesigned at some point? There's not enough backbone here to account for the time that they spent on it.
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>>217921360
They don't respawn, according to Josh even those are handmade. Nothing is procedural at all, AKA they did it in the worst way to design something you want to scale forward into the future.
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>>217921404
i'm throwing youtube and twitch under social media
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>>217921430
What version was that 20 min speedrun? Because 20 mins sounds like a lot of dumb luck on current 1.1 for just hitrates alone. And was downward level scaling on?
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the biggest poe is illusion of choice
you think your choices really matter but in the end they dont
i mean sure you re given many options to do things diferently(in the first) but they dont mean jackshit in the second literally
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>>217921034
Well, my problem with the factions is: why should I care about them in the first place. The watcher is an outsider with very tangental relation to Deadfire and probably does not give a fuck about their ideals. Also, the game does not give you a good reason to join them aside forma a mercenary approach of "you need their resources/boat/teleport thingy". And if you're clever enough, you don't need their help anyway. Your primary job is to find Eothas, not to play a politician, but the game assumes you'll engage in an entire faction war without giving you a good reason why.
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>>217921716
You could say the same thing about New Vegas and people practically worship that game.
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>>217921716
>The watcher is an outsider
Not necessarily.
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>>217921716
The Watcher can be from the Republics, Rauatai or even fucking Deadfire itself, and they already have an opinion on animancy one way or the other. These alone are enough reasons to get involved.
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>>217921895
Oh, I agree. Wishy-washy motivation of joining factions in New Vegas was still there - but that game was infinately better written, so it wasn't this blatant. Aside from that, the idea with New Vegas was that the player was a virtual blank slate - so you can come up with any backstory you wanted - included being from Legion lands/NCR/New Vegas. Watcher specifically comes from Dyrwood and is an outsider to the conflict whether you like it or not. Sure, you can give your Watcher a Deadfire background so they have some motivation to play faction politics, but the rest are given no reason to do so. Also, New Vegas was a massive cock-sucking ego trip with Yes Man route, where you create your own army and show those retards how it's done. Deadfire has not have that.
But, yeah I admit, that this conga line of faction representatives in front of the Tops after I shot Benny was strange and forced as fuck.
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>>217922173
Well, my Watcher was a dwarf from Living Lands. Then what? What about a Watcher from White that Wends or Ixamitl Plains, or Aedyr?
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>>217921581
No just regular ol' PotD, release version. If you get smoke veil and stealth you don't actually have to fight any of the bosses and can run to the end credits no problem.

https://youtu.be/Bnecs19idEo?t=245
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>>217922173
Yes except for the part where you can singlehandedly delete entire armies off the face of the earth, and yet you're forced to either choose one of the incredibly fucking retarded factions you're given shit-all reason to care about, or just go home.
Both of the Pillars gives you very little reason to care about their shitty minigames, and Pillars 2 lacks even the sense of mystery and theming that Pillars 1 had. PoE was basically the old-ass question "at what point is a god just a powerful being that can solve your problems if you worship it", with the twist that the gods are literally right there trying to influence the decision. It was about a nihilistic world and people grappling with the fact that they don't have a reason for what they're doing. Eder's and the HELLO HELLO cunt's quest were both "some questions will never be answered", Durance was confused and terrified that he had done something to displease his god and desperate to find out what even as he shittalked her, and of course the main quest culminates in the realization that the gods aren't actually 'real' but Mr. Lead Man says "Well, they're real enough, and living life according to a made-up meaning is better than living a life without meaning." Meanwhile Deadfire is LOL GODZILLA TITAN GOD WALKING ACROSS THE OCEAN like literally what the fuck?

>>217922173
He *can* be sure, but you don't have to be. More importantly, so fucking what if you're from it? There's hardly any reactivity and it's not as if you're made to care about the area which it basically a huge fucking shithole?
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>>217909318
>insane orlan who dual-wields hatchets and moves like a hyperactive squirrel on speed.
for my orlan I just used a helmet portrait and imagined they were one 24/7
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>>217923231
Then you roleplay.
Assuredly not every Watcher is a [Stoic] autist who doesn't have a single opinion on anything, right?
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>>217923717
>the choices you have in this game are either helping out niggers, or not helping niggers

It's pretty hard to not go scorched earth every playthrough when there's no reason to be "the good guy"
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>>217921404
Obsidian got the metrics for most popular class combos somehow, so telemetry might be working in some capacity. There's more than enough feedback on the game for them to dissect. It's now a question of whether or not they'll bother.
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>>217923717
You can't roleplay unless you're a retarded shit who thinks that any of the factions are worth anything at all. You could literally run things better. I mean you repaired a castle and won a battle starting from zero in like a month flat. The Watcher can even have canonically 25+ Int if you get all the right items.
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>>217923254
PotD wasn't a thing until 1.1. It's an entirely different game.
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>>217923717
Then I started roleplaying. It went like this:
>There is a fucking giant adra statue fucking things up. I'm from a mission from Berath xerself and urgently need your help.
-We really don't care about any giant statue killing our people. But you can be play our errand boy for next 30 hours, then we might care.
>GODZILLA SIZED ADRA STATUE. DESTROYING YOUR STUFF. WILL YOU HELP OR NOT?
We really REALLY don't care about any giant statue killing our people. But you can be play our errand boy for next 30 hours, then we might care.

So I went independent. It wasn't fun.
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>>217924381
PRIZE SHARE
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>>217924316
>being able to beat the game with 0 combat changes when they buff combat

No, no it doesn't
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>>217924316
>It's an entirely different game.
how different? I've been stopping after I solo the starting island with a character
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>>217924837
Random mob increases and defense buffs, mostly at the first 10 hours of the game.
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>>217923943
I dunno. Sawyer seems to have this "I know better than everybody else" attitude - especially towards combat mechanics, so unless the feedback comes specifically from Something Awful or discord, he'll ignore it and make any changes as he himself see fit.
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>>217922880
>Watcher specifically comes from Dyrwood
But you literally cannot be from the Dyrwood.

>>217924707
You have to get to a level where you have smoke veil.
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>>217925387
How long can he afford to act that way? Let's find out!
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>>217925496
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I always thought that the Watcher in Deadfire starts as the lord of Caed Nua, and not a local to Deadfire entangled in the faction conflict. Or did I play a different game?
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>>217925387
He reminds me of Monte Cook except without the casterboner and minus the ability to have genuinely good ideas and fluff books.
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>>217925737
Oh, you did. My first character originated from the Deadfire, I didn't see a Dyrwood origin. What race do I have to pick to get that option?
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>>217925737
Why couldn't you have encouraged Eder to stay in Caed Nua and pound your FemWatcher ass? If he's scared of having kids you could just be a moon godlike and if he isn't you can just be anyone else. It's pathetic.
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>>217925496
You can theoretically do it with escape smoke veil is easy mode
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>>217925814
Well, my Watcher started PoE 2 in Dyrwood, specifically in Caed Nua being Eothas'd. Ergo, an outsider to Deadfire and their local conflict specific to this game. Good to know your Watcher started immediately in Deadfire during the faction war and skipped this whole "I will follow a god from Dyrwood" bullshit.
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>>217925754
http://archive.is/1vnZq#selection-2837.39-2837.103 Nah, fuck Monte. Josh isn't thi far gone.

"On fire? Crystalline? That's normal. White? Breaking muh suspension of disbelief"
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>>217925014
I had some stuff I wanted to try but didnt get around to
I wanted to see if the gladiator sword could stack with Tuotilo's Palm
and see if both the snb and dw talent stacked with it since the description says it counts as an OH wep
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>>217927676
>and see if both the snb and dw talent stacked with it
i will be very surprised if that works
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>>217928054
I wouldn't. No degree of 'that's stupid' should surprise you at this point.
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>>217926618
What was the last good thing Josh wrote?
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>>217928887
Pallegina.
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I made a regular druid for my first POE2 playthrough, am I gonna have a bad time?

Playing on veteran so not exactly powergaming
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>>217929215
AC AC AC was mediocre in the first game and flaming rubbish in the second.
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>>217929340
Stop worshiping the g*ds, postenago.
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>>217929307
You can play whatever the fuck you want on veteran. You'll be all right as long as you target different defenses with spell and look at what the enemies are good at before you cast.
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>>217929504
Shut up weakling
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Is Ngati the worst of the Gods? Inb4 Woedicuck at least that autismo has a plan and sticks with it
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>>217929215
>Least popular companion across both games
Wew lad
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>>217929307
what kind of druid did you pick? they all seem fine desu as long as you grab the right spells for what you want to do
if youre playing with a party they can cover any bad choices
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>>217929869
But she's gonna be amazing in PoE 3
Just you wait. Josh will finally show you how great of a character she is. For real this time.
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>>217931658
>poe3
LAUFING
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>>217932001
There are enough idiots to figstart PoE 3. Obsidian is gonna hype it up as a return to BG roots or something and people will actually finance it.
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lose yourself in the druid the moment you own it you better let it go
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>>217932308
Yeah, people here have given them 500+ dollhairs so it's not impossible.
>>217929869
I don't know why they brought back token black girl when the entirety of the deadfire is full of literal Italian niggers.
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>>217932579
She's Sawyer's OC. He probably wants to make her a series mascot or something. Nobody gives a fuck about her, but Sawyer is persistent.
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>>217932308
this kind of people make me mad
why not give money to actually promising games?
who the fuck funds obsidian games for fucks sake
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>>217933234
Name 3 other devs who kikestart their games AND make good RPGs.
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i mean promising kickstarters
kickstarting obsidian is dumb
theyve shown that they just want our money, they always released half assed generic games
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>>217933961
oh
btw iron studios from age of decadence is developing a pretty promising rpg, i dont think its kickstarted tough
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>>217877065
Why are the gods so fugly? I thought Hylea would be dumb waifu material in 1 but then she turned out looking like a dude. Thought fiery whore would have a gleaming clean full plate with a too shiny to see face, turn out she's some monster with spikes all over her armor. Thought Berath would be some old skellington hag, turned out she's the only cute one
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hmmm. Which one to mod?
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>>217935656
Because women need to be ugly in video games now as some sort of mental screwball way to be more inclusive. The only one that looks good is associated with death and has two genders, go figure.
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>>217932879
>Nobody gives a fuck about her
I do, I'm insistent that she disappear ASAP
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There's actually nothing wrong with Pallegina.
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>>217927676
>>217928054
>>217928304
I got around to testing it on a character that was about to lvl up, the snb bonus definitely applies with the talent, and it seems like the speed bonus does to

it doesnt hit hard but between the atk speed bonus, being able to enchant it for a 20% counter chance on miss it might be the strongest small shield

most of the bonuses make the shield look like it was intended for a monk to use, but I think Gladiator sword+Tuotilo's palm is a solid combo for a defensive combo, I might have to try it out with a multi monk later
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>>217937601
Most of the characters from the first game hand a handful of traits turned up to autistic so that they felt unique. Eder and Aloth had these dialed back and became somewhat more flushed out characters compared to the first game. Pallegina however didn't, as if token cunty black girl was enough for Obsidian.
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>>217937895
A token cunty Transracial womyn.
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>>217937895
Eder was plain but he worked out because he was like a mix of the Watson and the Everyman. He wasn't normal by any means, but his goal was relateable and down to earth in a weirdly outlandish way, and he didn't really have any extra 'bits' tacked onto him. Pallygina didn't work at a..
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>>217937707
sounds like a good candidate for B A L A N C E
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>>217939986
>tfw this looks better than 4/5 of the female gods
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>>217941248
Nah
I mean the others were evidently meant to look monstrous, Woedica is literally an old granny and Magarn is on fucking fire and her faceis half-melted or some shit...
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>>217941248
In defense of Hylea we've only seen her fucked up face. The rest of her might be okay. It's also clearly just certain aspects of them we're seeing, but I wouldn't get any hopes up for a more flattering one appearing for any of them. It's kind of distracting how fucking ugly they made female gods and like half the female portraits you interact with in general
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>>217941350
Woedica's face is half-melted because Magran burnt her once and I agree she's suppose to be some ugly granny. The description in 1 said Magran looked like a warrior goddess in plate armor but her face is too bright to be seen clearly. Don't think they depicted Ondra in 1 anymore than a wave coming toward you, so I suppose Ngati isn't offensive.
Hylea though, literally the goddess of art, beauty and fertility ended up looking like a raging faggot that's too lazy to get a decent sex change.
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>>217941350
Yeah, angler fish titty milk monster is peak npc design
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>>217942604
Can you imagine going to a church and worshipping something that looks like Ondra? Praising a bloated 4 breasted monster with an angler fish head seems like something that would be a wake up call to the idea that you might be in an evil cult.
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no different than worshiping any other deity
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>>217944052
>t. Obsidicuck
A deity that preaches love, forgiveness, or selflessness is the same as one that demands death to non-believers, or the manipulation of their people. Oh wait, what the fuck am I talking about?
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>>217943101
>>217942604
Monstrous looking gods or at least deific beings isn't exactly new. Granted it doesn't really happen that you only dedicate yourself to one specific god but like, for example, Nyx is in some iterations of the Greek myths actually older than the Primordial Chaos, you got Ophioneus, a snake that laid an egg that contains the universe inside it, you got the Hecatoncheires the Hundred Handed Ones, who have a hundred hands and fifty heads and are the -good guys-, you have Hundun, a giant dog without a face, organs, hair, bones, or anything else who is also a good guy, you have the Seraphim who have six wings, on fire, with eyes inside their eyes, on their feathers, you have the Cherubim who are explicitly noted to be exceptional among all other angels not because they have four heads facing in different directions and wings covered with fucking hands and 'straight' legs with hooves, or that they're followed by topaz-opal wheels that intersect themselves and spin in a non-euclidean manner that act as phylacteries or some shit, but because they were "chayyot" - "living things", so in other words none of the angels were considered 'alive'. You have Samael and Sandalphon who are literally millions of miles tall with Samael being made of eyes, etc. etc.
Weird gods aren't new or anything, hell even the 'normal' Greek Gods only pretend to be human when dealing with humans. In one story Zeus is tricked into showing his 'true' form in front of a lover and she immediately disintegrates.
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>>217946086
Yeah there's a select amount of monstrocities in the entire Greek pantheon, but to have over half of your gods resembling some sort of twisted creature? That's just plain dumb. Especially when the most "pure" ones are twisted. Obsidian's obviously full of atheists.
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5 and in the fire was what looked like four living creatures. In appearance their form was that of a man,
6 but each of them had four faces and four wings.
7 Their legs were straight; their feet were like those of a calf and gleamed like burnished bronze.
8 Under their wings on their four sides they had the hands of a man. All four of them had faces and wings,
9 and their wings touched one another. Each one went straight ahead; they did not turn as they moved.
10 Their faces looked like this: Each of the four had the face of a man, and on the right side each had the face of a lion, and on the left the face of an ox; each also had the face of an eagle.
11 Such were their faces. Their wings were spread out upward; each had two wings, one touching the wing of another creature on either side, and two wings covering its body.

Their entire bodies, including their backs, their hands and their wings, were completely full of eyes ...
Ezekiel 10:12

Each of the cherubim had four faces: One face was that of a cherub, the second the face of a man, the third the face of a lion, and the fourth the face of an eagle.
Ezekiel 10:14
>>217946621
They coulda took more inspiration from the different angels I guess
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>>217946621
They're not select though. And it's simply not true that 'pure' ones don't look twisted. ALL of the Protogenoi look ridiculously monstrous, Seraphim and Cherubim are angels, Helios has the Sun in his fucking eyes, Hel is a good girl who literally dindu nuffin and she has half her body simply rotting away, Pan looks like a goat, Poseiden has the ocean for his beard (which would also mean he has Okeanos, a separate deity, as his beard), Tiamat is some sort of giant fish-dragon with thousands of udders and more than one penis slot, Ananta Shesha is some sort of big-ass snake with a thousand heads that doesn't do anything but sing about Vishnu all day long.

Hell even Jesus in St. John's Revelation gets two forms, one has hair as white as snow, feet made of bronze and with a sword made out of the sun coming out of his mouth, or the other version where he's the Lamb, literally a lamb with his throat cut out and seven eyes and seven horns.

I mean sure I understand what you're saying, I want hot gods too, but monstrous gods were always the norm.
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>>217946621
>And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.
This is Revelations 5:6. This is Jesus.
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>>217947362
Don't try and justify Obsidian's terrible character designs by comparing them to Greek gods. They're all usually depicted as beautiful men or women, hell they could take forms of animals, but you don't see many swan statues with Zeus chipped into it.
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>>217948105
>ignoring the comparisons to all of the other gods who were all "good guys" that I made
The actual complaint you can levy against Obsidian is something that they're not even responsible for but the utter ridiculousness of people not worshipping gods as they go into their domains. If you're trying to fish should be praying to Ondra or Galawain or something, then going back home and asking for Woedica's aid in getting justice for some merchant overcharging you, then going to sleep and hoping that Eothas will help your son who's been going down a bad path lately find remorse and redemption. It's a stupid concept that in a polytheistic world people go for a main god, and I have no idea how it even started
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>>217947829
>And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.

The four beasts was added to the Bible later, the lamb is Jesus, the seven horns is the manifestation of his power, like a crown since he is king (7 being perfect in the Bible), the seven eyes were seven angels as it says. Not sure what you're trying to portrait here
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>>217948510
Religion was most likely created by some dude in the desert tripping on camel shit mushrooms. Obsidian's writing is shit so that would explain everything
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>>217948709
>added to the bible later
Literally every version of the Bible includes the term 'four beasts', I don't know what you're on about. Some of them call them "animals" or "living things" instead, I guess?
>the lamb is Jesus
Yes.
>seven horns is the manifestation of his power
It doesn't stop him from having seven fucking horns.
>seven eyes were seven angels
It doesn't stop him from having seven eyes.
You want another example?

>His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters. And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.
Revelation 1:14-16.
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So... Beast of Winter location?
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How viable is a blackjacket pistol spammer + bleak walker with greatsword?
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>>217949289
Josh leaving Obsidian to fix CDPR's systems WHEN?
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>>217948510
Considering how the gods will royally fuck dyrwood if you say you'll do something for a god and don't, and how berath killing a bunch of people for no reason is seen as the price to lift the legacy, I can understand this whole one faith thing.

yeah, the gods most likely won't fuck with you for worshiping others, but I personally wouldn't take that chance with anyone but Eothas.
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>>217949120
The problem with using the bible as an example is that most of the imagery used is symbolic, it's also not too farfetched to say that the Greek god's terrible forms were much more literal versions of this symbolism.
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>>217949120
The interpretation of that passage is pretty much that his feet were bare and that his voice was terrible against his foes, apparently.
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>>217950304
>Considering how the gods will royally fuck dyrwood if you say you'll do something for a god and don't
I mean, oathbreaking was always kind of a big deal and probably anything worth promising a god is considered an oath.

>>217950571
There's also the interpretation that Jesus is appearing in the 'original', spiritually complete form of Man, since there's passages that imply that after the Second Coming that those with virtue in their hearts will look glorious 10/10 and literally shining while those that were sinners end up looking like hunchbacked horrors / gollum tier wretches.
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>>217950917
Like I said, using the bible is a bad example.
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>>217950312
Well sure, Zeus ends up literally being a giant superpowered thundercloud and fries his gf, but that doesn't mean that he's not eldritch-looking as fuck. I mean at very best he looks like a Primal Air Elemental from D&D or something.
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>>217951016
Well yeah
But I gave a bunch of others that he didn't feel like taking though, and the Bible sounds like the one he would side with the most. Idk his complaints gave me a bible thumper vibe, might be wrong.
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Is Ondra a literal landwhale
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>Sacred Immolation does 43 raw damage to self
So, what's the point of this shit?
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>>217951116
I'm that guy, I just don't think Obsidian would take much inspiration from Greek mythology especially when you have to really dig into the mythos to find these examples of "WTF". The pillars gods are just ideas or emotions instead pf physical representations of power too, so there's more leeway on how they look and behave.
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>>217951659
Nyx is fucking hot though and Hypnos is a huge mommy's boy
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>>217950917
Generally in oathbreaking you don't murderboner the entire nation just because one person who didn't even live there a couple months ago promises to do some shit they don't do.
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>>217949720
Do you want CDPR to kill fun games for good?
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>>217951760
Gods man
They're like children sometimes
Ishtar tries to destroy the world over being dumped and Helios threatens to start a zombie apocalypse by shining the sun in the underworld if Zeus doesn't blast Odysseus's ship
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>>217951583
to see if you're dumb enough to select it
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>>217949281
it would probably be aids to solo with, fine with a party, just find a full atk ability you like to use with the pistols and stack acc
with a druid in the party you could cast tanglefoot and rotate the pally speed / acc aura to easily kite and shoot down groups, it might be fun to make a firing squad style party where you trap a group of mobs in cc and then open fire
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>>217952694
>it might be fun to make a firing squad style party where you trap a group of mobs in cc and then open fire
that was my strategy in poe1
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Porting over a 20/9/10/10/18/10 bleak walker to dumpsterfire. I try to stay in character so I don't want to change the stats too much but god damn is int useless for a dps paladin now, even if I multiclass fighter. Should I ditch the int or the class?
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>>217952623
A pure tank pally could probably shrug off the damage since they wont be tanking any outside damage in the first place
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>>217952956
And premier BG1 strat. An IWD. I'm noticing a pattern here.
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>>217953497
Considering 400 health is pretty tanky already, you're still gona die in 10 seconds even if you take 0 damage from anything else.
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>>217953185
Ditch your life.
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>>217953185
>dps
>no dex
>no per
Did you rely on inmolation?
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>>217953185
if you dont plan on using buffs / aoe abilities you could dump it and bump up per a bit
if you multi into a class like fighter the int would make disc strikes last longer

desu with that much might I would atleast try to bump up per a bit, unless you wanna spend the first half the game seeing misses in the chat log.
if you went 14 per 14 int it would be balanced enough that you could start with a dagger + pally aura for the acc and then move on to w/e wep you actually want to use later, for mdps I would multi with a fighter and with disc strikes you would get plenty of hits

if you went pure pally I would not go 20 might starting ever, thats gonna be a bad time
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>>217953908
Yes. Was originally 16/11/16/15/10/10 but then I realized how shit melee swings are against 20+ DR compared to or dps and switched to full immolation.
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>>217954432
Are res even needed when I've got Faith and Devotion? Thinking about going 20/9/15/15/15/3
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>>217954796
Go for per instead of might. Why do you want int? You can go full flames of devotion with dual pistols/sabres
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>>217955023
Can't be a brainlet anon, those huanas are gona jew me
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>>217949289
https://twitter.com/jesawyer/status/1007054677924442112
Josh approves CP
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>>217957134
Get the partyvan.
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>Gift of the machine, effigy, etc don't get carry over to PoE2
TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMM
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>>217957912
Blame Berath
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>>217957134
Only shota
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Hold up, I'm pretty sure dispositions from game 1 carried over in the initial release. Now it doesn't. Wtf is this shit or am I just retarded?
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>>217958504
Just like in the first game, dispositions don't fucking matter! Definitely not enough for them to carry over. Now you've got a whole new untainted set of useless numbers to wrack up! GO GET 'EM TIGER!
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>>217957912
They do, just not at the beginning
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>>217958702
They do when you're going for the edge walker experience. I've got my aggressive and cruel to 4 and now I just want to [shrug]
>>217958975
When do I get them? After tutorial island?
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>>217959563
Should be after Hasongo I believe
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>>217959563
When you go "Eyo holup gimme my soul back" and Eothas actually does so.
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Do I still lose my watcher skills if I respec?
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>>217958504
They never carried over
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bazzo desu senpai
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>There are people right now in this thread not roleplaying as The Bard.
Explain yourselves.
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God this thread is deader than fucking /eagg/
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>>217961287

Let me know if you like this one. I've got a pretty good watercolour for it.
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>>217935656

Gods that just look like people are boring and stupid and lazy.
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>>217935656
Fucking waifufags I tell you.
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>>217968416
i like this a lot. please post.
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>Greatswords have less penetration than sabers
>>217968623
>>217969075
samefag
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Better have this, too.
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freebootin be the means lad, not the end
mreow
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Is the new PoTD in dumpsterfire overtune and caner?
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>>217972360
I do not speak this language. Is this what they call retarded or something?
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>>217972360
Did you start falling asleep while you were typing? New potd is pretty different. I think it's better and more difficult
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>>217972482
edgy
>>217973216
No clue. Literally just started and I see like 8 mobs all with better stats against my 3 lvl 2s in that flooded street in Maje. Had to use bombs aka money better spent on pets
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>>217973820
Heaven forbid that you actually manage resources and make do with tactics to get past the hardest difficulty. That's just unfair and artifical difficulty.
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Has Deadfire hardest most difficult Path of the Damned have been encounter in orders to fixed with one do to do? Or is it still easy as fuck?
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>Has Deadfire hardest most difficult Path of the Damned have been encounter in orders to fixed with one do to do?
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>Has Deadfire hardest most difficult Path of the Damned have been encounter in orders to fixed with one do to do?
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>>217935656
I'd still stick it in Hylea's cloaca. she looks vaguely arabic to me
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>>217975437
There easy been fixed but still cake lvl 13 future ahead
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>>217975437
[Lie] Mayhaps.
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>>217975437
>Has Deadfire hardest most difficult Path of the Damned have been encounter in orders to fixed with one do to do?
What the fuck. I don't even know how I ended up writing that shit.
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New patch when?
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>>217977698
Are you ok, anon?
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DO IT
I hope you all faggots are /Energetic/ here.
https://www.strawpoll.me/15893395
https://www.strawpoll.me/15893395
https://www.strawpoll.me/15893395
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Are arquebuses still shit?
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>>217978518
The poses suck
>>217979115
They do and they always will
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>>217979634
You suck
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>Passionate
>disfavored by Magran
>some of [Priest of Magran] lines are Passionate
This is some Wael bullshit fampaitachi.
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>>217974660
Pretty much, since the game's so poorly balanced early game it's like hitting a brick wall with your flaccid cock and then late game is a cake walk. Even the temple of Eothas didn't take as much autism to beat as tutorial island
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I thuoght the gods had multiple forms and maybe a "real one". Berath can/is the pale knight, dwarf, skellies and so on... the same could apply to some of the others.

Still, most deities are ugly and probably not described as "beautiful". Dont talk about angels, I always remember there is a WHEEL one.
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>>217983820
>he prefers boring babby angels instead of badass flaming wheels with eyes
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Don't you guys think it's weird when you look up "What did the Jews do to deserve genocide" and "Who killed Jesus" you get a bunch of hebrew websites claiming it's all false?
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>>217984236
>What did the Jews do to deserve genocide
nothing. they did deserve exile though
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>starting area is to hard
just increase your imagination stat
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>>217984493
My friend got an add on youtube claiming that jews are the nazis now. It's happening
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>>217984563
>charming
Look at this pleb
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>>217984717
having the boar druids boars turn on him feels delightfully evil
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>>217985827
>tfw asking him for a ham
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>>217985910
this guy knows whats up
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https://twitter.com/T0_8I/status/1007038519573766145

>Deadfire and Kingdom come Deliverance are the best games of 2018
>Kingdom Come launched broken with 0 content
>Deadfire launched broken with 0 content

what did he mean by this
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>>217986253
I mean, I can't really think of any other games that came out this year. And the actual GOTY got pushed into 2019.
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I actually like that kind. All the weirdos on goetia and stuff
btw game is crashing when I fight Cotta in queen's berth(nekentknekntaka port) and I have no idea why.
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>>217990953
>nekentknekntaka
You misspelled Titicaca
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Can you burn all bridges and still win the hearing in favor of animancy? Also if you choose both "I made enemies of all of them" when asked about which defiance bay faction you supported and "animancy should continue in dyrwood" in the save creator will it cause npcs to react like animancy was outlawed in PoE2?
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>cast firebrand
>it gets dispelled by the wizard's chill fog
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>>217992271
Nobody gives a fuck about animancy in the second game, there's no reactivity. Nice that the second act of the first game didn't matter at all.
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>>217986253
But OS2 Definitive Edition will be goty.
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>>217993124
I always wonder what people want when they say there's no reactivity. That' patently untrue, but what exactly id you want a decision half a world away about allowing a field of study to do when the premier leaders in that field are already and have been estbalished in another nation for decades prior and THEIR nation's interests are being represented in Deadfire. Like, what the fuck do you want? For the Dyrwood to somehow trump the Valians in animancy because the watcher said not to outlaw it five years ago?
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>set AI behavior for chanter
>uses invocations while out of range
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>>217999749
priest's don't heal and ciphers will spam charm even with 1 enemy left at 10%. it's hilarious how worse the auto ai is than 1.
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>do Raedricks keep
>get gloves of manipulation without sleepscumming
Today is a good day. Maybe I can take this character all the way to Deadfire.
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>>218002683
You lucky SOB. Any other known spawn points? Speaking of which, does anybody know if loot in PoE is entirely random or containers divided into "tiers"?
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>>218000319
The difference is that it's your fault in POE2. You can set priest abilities to be priority for healing. You can set a condition for enemy hp for charm.
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>>218000319
Priest on Cautious should heal decently, though it will probably waste a ton of spells on ailments that get reapplied instantly as well.
As for cipher, people seem to be a-ok with the state of class as long as WoT spam exists, so it's not surprising that the default AI does that at highest priority. I honestly wish they would nuke that spell.
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>>218003120
that's no excuse for the auto ai to be so abysmal compared to 1.
being able to fine tune it should be just that. fine tuning to make things more efficient or perfect. not a requirement for the ai to not be worse than a 2 year old.

also you can't set for general number of targets either. only by localized number. meaning cipher charm ai will always be worse than 1 even with fine tuning.
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>>218003083
Gloves can be in multiple places in my experience. At the pic location, sewer secret spot in the cell, trapped box in sewer next to ladder, trapped chest next to Raedricks wife and in the locked box in his study near the wife.
I think the stuff you can loot are always the same, but the loot table mixes at every new game. Not 100% sure, but this is how it feels to me and I restart the game quite often.
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>>218000319
>ciphers will spam charm even with 1 enemy left
I hate this and have tried in vain to set conditions to make sure it doesn't happen, usually with stuff like "if >0 allies in melee range" "NOT", but the AI just doesn't care, even if I swapped allies with enemies and >0 to >1. I've decided to just toss WoT out since its spammed to much at the cost of all other skills. Priests seem to work alright, just have to set the priority high. Most likely they're too busy casting something else to heal since all their spells have long cast times.
>>218003120
>You can set a condition for enemy hp for charm
That's a pretty good idea actually. <50% should do it.

I just wish there was a condition to avoid using skills or weapons on enemies with affliction or damage immunities.
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>>218013423
They're locked in, we'll get them one way or another. "Pillars of Eternity 3 never ever" is more accurate.
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>>217979115
They are only shit for dps, still beat any other ranged weapon for accuracy and damage.
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>>218015320
There probably will be PoE 3 - another kick/figstarted game, this last, desperate attempt of a dying, bland and creatively weak franchise to actually captivate audience. I'm guessing that if anything dies first, it's Obsidian itself due to possible massive layoffs, beacuse this game is still selling like shit.
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>>218018828
So, how about his "massive" Critical Role crowd? Did they help much?
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>>218017407
>They're shit for damage but still beat any other ranged weapon for damage
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>>218019752
>damage per second is the exact same thing as one big hit upfront
Rogues can easily one shot things at 12m range with them for example, if you're struggling this hard to think of uses.
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>>218020092
They're not, but the DPS of the unique arquebuses is stupid high. Dragon's Dowry and three bells bullshit are both overtuned.
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>>218018587
I liked Pillars despite its flaws, and I wanted Deadfire to improve on it instead of scrapping everything. Shit sucks, but they've made too many mistakes. No one else to blame.
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>>218020270
>overtuned
Werent both handed only nerfs? Dowry's massive reload and burn dropped by 35% and 20% respectively.
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>>218003470
yea, I hate adjusting the ai to, why cant the game just play itself. what kinda of loser would micromanage 5 characters for fun. I can't even imagine how bad this game is for people who dont use the ai
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>>218020676
I think it was Sawyer's "I know better than you" approach that finally backfired. He's nowhere near as good as a narrative/systems designer he thinks he is and it shows in Deadfire. He tries to reinvent the wheel, when it's really not needed. His insistence on writing things "dry and down to earth" really hinders this franchise with lack of creative thought. Then, he's left in charge of an inexperienced writing team, that needed a better guidance, that he couldn't provide. And finally, there is Feargus' meddling, who really insisted on this game becoming the "next Baldur's Gate 2". No wonder this game is a dud.
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>try to make a hexer type character who debuffs the fuck out of everything
>set on using cipher because I like it thematically and mechanically, plus the whispering is cool
>can't quite agree on what to multiclass it with
>try rogue, but it's mostly overlapping debuffs and a bunch of skills I'm not using
>try chanter, but the summons are kinda goofy and there's more buffs than debuffs, plus the cone range of invocations is weird
>can't quite figure out what to do with her since so far her gimmick has been mass flanking, charm/dominate, and fear with not much else
>remember that priests of skaen are a thing
>use the console to switch classes and rebuild
>so many fucking debuffs
>so many spells to cast
>even has rogue mobility and invis from skaen
Fuck why didn't I recognize this sooner? Now I just need to find a bunch of encounters to field-test this in. I've already hunted most bounties and done most events so there's not much left to actually do other than the main story.
Looking forward to the dlc so I can take this party through more content.
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>>218020748
Everything good was nerfed though. So it ends up being a wash. 1.1 was just a straight buff to enemies. Except priests. They got to have their shitty single-target inspirations cast as quiskly as wizards and chanters cast their multi-inspiration buffs.
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>solo assassin
>smoke veil
>waiting recovery to swing my sabre
>for some reason the game finishes the battle
>my invisibility goes off
>battle begins cause enemy saw me
WHY
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>>218023408
Solo assassin is going to be broken no matter what. Enemies have absolutely no idea how to react against invisibility, you could just pop it up and reset every fight, including some bosses.
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>>218023196
almost all the abilities were overtuned and the packs were laughable
playing on potd felt like storymode
atleast now the starting island is fun
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>>218023748
Bullshit. Why the fuck do priests exist right now? Why the fuck does the upgrade to the bride chant exist? Sawyer fucked up horribly.
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>>218023884
>Why the fuck do priests exist right now?
out of everything you could have brought up thats probably the one thing I can't argue against. priests suck but they also sucked prepatch
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>>218024028
They had the best accuracy steroid in the game before and could apply it in an aoe. They lost that.
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>>218023596
there should be a range or a time limit
if i am 5 seg inv without atacking no one(cause waiting rec) the battle suddenly is over
this is bullshit
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>>217983000
That's just how CRPGs are. Early game managing resources is crucial, late game you just spam split ray chained enervations or the equivalent in the system.
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>>218019020
It turns out that people watching critical role don't even play 5e, let alone le baldur's gate successor xd
It doesn't help that the story is shoddy (it would absolutely not sell as a pre-published adventure) and the characters, interactions, mechanics, and character interaction mechanics are unfun.
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>>218025025
>bg sucessor
>poe
i think you meant kingmaker
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>>218025358
yeah dude kingmaker looks really amazing in the beta lets plays
it will completely blow shitfire out of water, amirite?
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>>218025358
What, Pathfinder: Kingmaker? I don't think they're including Sacred Geometry, the Occultist archetype for Arcanist, or going to let me spam Planar Binding to get armies of Balors, so I'm not that interested.
CRPGs based on 3.x (especially when it comes to fucking Kingmaker, the infamously shit adventure path with infamously shit kingdom building rules) are only fun if they let you break the game in half with metamagic.
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>>218025358
Not my fault Obsidian is trying to push PoE as the new BG.
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>>218025505
they are picking the setting you fucking retard
if the rules of the AP are shit this doesnt mean the kingdom building of the game will be
even the setting wont be completaly the same they are going to add some changes
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>>218026006
>they are picking the setting you fucking retard
As if the setting was any better
And fuck me I forgot the AP uses motherfucking mass combat rules too as if you couldn't Widened Cloudkill or >great cleave their entire army on your own
They won't even include Spheres of X or Path of War. 1pp only? No thanks, miss me with that gay shit lol.
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>>217866457

You can still have a death godlike blush, they have skin and you can see their cheeks. Eyebrow and eyes are really the only completely unimmersive aspect and I kinda just assumed the cancerous masses moved in a weird way so people who know the godlike read them as facial movements.
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>>217867015

I'm most sad about not getting anything for Konstanen a weird sexual massage dwarf barbarian would have some interesting stories.
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>>218027835
Depends.
You could easily not have heads/portraits like this and make only eyes a problem.

>I kinda just assumed the cancerous masses moved in a weird way so people who know the godlike read them as facial movements.
Well yeah, your companions could interpret those assuming they move. But godlikes are already rare to begin with and Berath's are often just killed at birth for being so ugly, plus theres several different types of heads (one just has bubbles covering eyes, no ridges).
Most npcs probably have never even seen one raising an eyebrow or whatever.
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>>218026130
yeah sure continue with your shitfire
i prefer the better game
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>>218029026
>implying I still play Deadfire
I'm just lurking for the thread
Are you unironically shilling for motherfucking Kingmaker of all APs though
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>>217869736
Maybe playing the Devil's advocate here but the idea is supposed to be how the Gullet happens because of forced and rqpid globalization and how the Huana are in that limbo of having the worst of both worlds (think post WW 2 Japan).

The fucking dragon imprisonmentis damning as shit tho. That was just them being cunts.
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>>218029129
no
i am shilling for the GAME
that by the lets plays seems to be good
its not because the source material is shit that the game will be
also
the game even has a cutie blonde tomboy knight romance
just this is enough to buy the game
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>>218029418
Isn't the game not even moddable? Can you even play an Evil character (reminder Lawful Evil dictatorships have +4 economy over Chaotic Good democracies)?
I don't see how you can shill for a game using the Kingmaker AP and Pathfinder 1pp mechanics. How much news is even out about it? Last I checked there was really shit-all in April. The only thing cool I've seen really is that Channel Energy, Positive looks pretty neat, graphically.
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>>218029356
The gullet happens because the Huana are retarded. It's not even a case of OH THE HUMANITY it's a case of them being imbeciles who by all logic should've wiped themselves out already.
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>>218029418
>blonde tomboy knight romance
Into the trash it all goes.
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Is she hot? I didn't think so. It's illegal to have hot girls now after all. Plus I bet none of the romances for a female PC are going to be worth shit. I'm still fucking salty about not being able to sex Bishop
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>>218030398
>sex Bishop
Literally what is wrong with you?
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>>218030850
He's a lot more appealing than the paladin even if the paladin was stronger in combat, -and- he's a smartass about it. He's like the ultimate true route character in an otome game. Look I dunno, he was just hot.
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>>218029657
yeah its confirmed that evil(lawful,chaotic and neutral) are all options
it seems you can even have a kingdom of undead
also about modding it seems they didnt develop modding tools but they wont make their game hard to mod or something like this, my hope is that they add modding as a later content, that would be neat.
>>218030398
well
i find her hot
also its a russian studio, sjw is weaker there, i mean it will have some paizo hand but i think the sjwlevel will be low
not even codex is bitching about sjw in this game because for what we know there is no sjw shit
also in canon she is so beatful a goddes got mad at her
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>>218030398
oh for females there is a half orc, but he is chaotic evil
for bissexual females there is a elf sorceress who is in a open relationship with the half orc
she is chaotic good
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>also in canon she is so beatful a goddes got mad at her
That sounds...
Which goddess? Urgothora or whatever the hell her name was? I don't know any goddesses who care enough about how they look compared to other people. I guess Noticula?

>russian studio
Huh. Maybe it won't be shit after all. In any case give me a hot guy for once, I couldn't get Eder in Deadfire, couldn't get bishop in NWN2, it's horrible.

>>218031301
>half-orc
PLEASE no
>open relationship
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>218031012
A plank of wood is a more appealing romantic partner than the paladin. Doesn't make Bishop good.
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>>218031301
>>218031138
>no SJWs
>the only options for girls are to carpet munch or to fuck the equivalent of a nigger
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>>218031392
it seems you can break their relationship tough
but girls really got fucked for romances in kingmaker tough
there is even a lesbo bitching in their forums
but something that bothers me is that i wont be able to romance amiri
why have such a hot character when i cannot bone her
>>218031631
well
till now theres nothing that we can say ITS SJW
there is nothing blatant
the closer thing is the octaviaxgarengar(i think thats his name) open relationship
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>>218031598
Bishop was good near the end of part 1 but then the rest of his route got cut. I'm convinced that if they chose Bishop instead of whoever his name is, he would've been good.
They chose the wrong girl too. The druid slut was good in a fight because >stoneskin, but besides that Neeshka was better in every way. Plus she's a creepy stalker or something.
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>>218031772
I don't want to get stuck with a girl though, I just want a hot guy. Isn't there some guy, somewhere, interested in marrying the ruler of an entire nation, who isn't a slack-jawed orc baby? Fuck that shit.
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>>218031991
i heard somewhere there would be romance with non companions as well
well have to wait and see
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> PoTD
> Ironman

> go load the only save file

> permanent black screen

If this doesn’t te resolved in a reboot or something, this is the last time I give you one single euro Obsidian I swear it on my life
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>>218032780
This is actually the number one reason I don't play locked in iron man modes. This happens too often. I play a personal enforced iron man mode where I only load an earlier save if something bugs out.
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>>218029730
True, it's executed like garbage, like most other moral "dilemmas" in the game.
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>>218033226
>dilemma
What's the dilemma here? There's nothing to make me want to marry a literal CE half-orc, and the fact that the other option is a whore in an 'open relationship' as a sorcerer who doesn't even get Remove Disease means I can either be a Cleric / Druid or get stuck with millions of STDs.
The only dilemma involved is whether or not I should summon an outsider to give me a real option.
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>>218032780
Ironman mode is for people who have no self control whatsoever. There's no difference between playing ironman and just refusing to reload a save.
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>>218033471
We are talking about the Huana being retarded my dude. Not the best romancing option. Those sucked as well tho.
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>>218033547
There is because if there's an iron mode it means the game was designed for it
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>>218033695
So you are. I guess 4chanx's backlinking glitched out lol.
In that case I remember someone in one of the earlier threads arguing the reason why the Huana were the worst of the lot was because the writers were SJWs or something and so when they tried to 'balance' the factions by giving them all good points and bad points, the Huana were given no good points because them being natives counted as good points in the minds of the writers.

>>218033792
Just learn to not reload then. An ironman run is just a run where you don't reload your saves. What the hell is the difference besides when you post screenshots to stroke your ego? Just promise yourself you won't reload unless the game bugs the fuck out, and then do so.
Plus, I'd say MOST games are designed for ironman. No game besides those with meta commentary is designed with save-scumming in mind.
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>>218033996
I have to admit that I save scum sometimes when the game is being cheeky. Like when I want to tell Furrante that I want nothing to do with the fucking slavers and my options are "yes", "yes" and "yes I will do it" worded differently
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>>218034702
That's just bad writing yeah it's offensive how much
>Yeah! [Benevolent]
>Sure... [Cruel]
>[Lie] No [Deceptive]
>[Say Nothing (Yes)] [Stoic]
there is in the game.
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Does 1 handed style stack with weapon and shield style in dumpsterfire?
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>>218036937
Obviously not.
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>>218036937
>specific talent for one handed style
>specific talent for weapon and shield style
take a wild guess nigger
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>>218036937
Why would it?
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>>218037163
>>218037169
t. retards that never played poe1
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>>218037291
t. retard that can't figure out the obvious
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>>218031392
>>218031772
isn't there a fuckable blonde priest dude or something?
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>>218025505
>What, Pathfinder: Kingmaker? I don't think they're including Sacred Geometry, the Occultist archetype for Arcanist, or going to let me spam Planar Binding to get armies of Balors, so I'm not that interested.
I don't think you have a GM that lets you do that either so what the fuck is your point?
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>>218037510
yeah he too
tristan i think
dunno if he is romanceable
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Are spirit weapons worth it for monk/priest Xoti? Feel like her default uniques are pretty strong already
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>>218038391
>>218037510
>https://owlcatgames.com/forums/showthread.php?4344-Companions-Romance
it seems he is indeed romanceable, in this thread there is a list of the confirmed companions who will be romanceable
tristan is straight
so you wont be able to pound the butt of this sissyboy
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>>218037556
Yeah but see the difference between a CRPG and a TTRPG is that roleplaying is possible in a TTRPG, while in a CRPG the best you can really do is hope that the text choices that pop up fit your character than that they put huge amounts of work into character interactions and whatnot. If not, breaking the game is really all that's left. That and I guess watching pretty colors.
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>>218034702
>>218034905
>having roleplaying options is bad
i see
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>>218039634
Having roleplaying options would imply being able to actually say 'no'. I mean, yes, I appreciate a having many different ways to say the same thing so it gives my character a voice, but it's also important to have ways to say different things.
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>>218039728
this
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>>218030052
Well, from what I've heard she's such and insufferable, emo cunt in that game, that Pallegina looks like the nicest and sweetest woman in existance by comparison.
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>>218039115
>Can cuck a half-orc
Superior human cock!
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>>218041827
well
i think her plot has some potential at least
there are hints that she will suffer a revenge from the goddess
i only hope its not a greek revenge where the cutie becomes the most horrendous hag in the universe
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>>218042594
especially since you can be a aasimar
>NOTHING BEATS THE CELESTIAL COCC
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>>218039728
Have you tried not doing it? I hear actions speak much louder than words. Also, I'm pretty sure getting the quest triggers the chest in his office to activate and you can hand that letter talking about slaving to the other members of the council and he gets executed.
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>>218042714
I mean Aasimar have the best statline in the game, especially if they're allowing variants. The only time they might lose out is if you're looking at a few specific racial abilities like the extra feat for humans or the racial spell pen for elves or the SR from Drow.
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>you killed Ora The Mad
>working in my ship... ALIVE

what
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>>218042601
Can't you just kill her? Or did they make it so you can only attack someone in 'combat mode' so you can't just slaughter your way through the entire story?
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Here's the deal, if we're not going to talk about deadfire in the deadfire general can we just let it die?
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>>218044231
yeah but singleplayer games dont need balance
its nice when a game gives you op options,normal options and BAD options
>>218044315
i dont really know since the lets play i watch is a good goy but i believe you can
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>>218044778
yes
PLEASE!
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>>218044885
>its nice when a game gives you op options,normal options and BAD options
Shut up Monte Cook I've had enough of your ivory tower designs tired of having 3000+ feats available of which 150 are worth taking
That said I doubt they're going to let you go godwizard so rip
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>>218045045
this
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>>218044778
This is the CRPG general now
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>>218045045
i mean having this kind of design is good cause you challenge yourself
you can choose if you want to curbstomp enemies or if you want a way to play in a way which makes you have to use each and every resource, and plan fights.
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>>218045410
But that's what difficulty settings are for. Hell, in this case, 'hard mode' is the mode you don't have to track resources because you just swing sword good. Easy mode is the one where you need to track your spells.
It's stupid that you have options that are -strictly- better than others in a game, unless those options are more like starting scenarios - I can understand it's easier to start as an self-exiled noble than as a beggar who needs to suck cock to get her daily allotment of 3sp, but it shouldn't be the case that this option is straight up mechanically worse than that option or else so conditionally useful that the conditions will never be fulfilled.

If a player wants to play hard mode just tell him to turn the difficulty up.
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>>218044778
It would have a died twice over already, if we limited it to Deadfire.
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How does the PS4 version of Pillars play, thinking of picking up the Complete Edition at walmart later.
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>>218045871
but nothing beats the feeling of soloing the game with the fucking worst class
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>>218048110
>crpg on a console
sounds like a bad time, the game was definitely made to play with a mouse
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>>218048256
I'm sorry, but the 'worst classes' in 3.x are the worst because they're the most boring. They can't do anything but walk up to someone and full attack, that's every single fight with them. No tactics whatsoever possible.
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Going through the White March again it looks like they locked telling Ondra that her beliefs are stupid behind philosopher background in one of the more recent updates. Or I just forgot how to do it
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>>218043416
Whatever, I still wanted to be able to say no there instead of the game setting up three dialogue boxes of "yes". Because you don't even know what the fuck he wants from you before you talk to him
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>>218050606
You gotta have 20 intelligence to say "you is a catch 22 bitch"
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>>218053464
It's amazing how many int check thresholds in games in general make it clear everyone is fucking retarded. If super basic shit is completely out of the realm of possibility of the 10 int average joe. Gotta be 200 IQ to point out Ondra's fucking retarded.
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>>218053464
I just reloaded that save to test it, and it's actually just 17.
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>>218054213
The average joe is pretty fucking stupid irl too
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WAKE UP
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Why the fuck every gods watches you personally? They don't trust mommy?
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>>218061567
I'm pretty sure most of the gods hate and distrust each other, they're only sort of working together because Eothas is about to fuck everything up
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>>218061916
Why did Engwithans allow it? They should've reprogram them for non-hostile behavior towards each other.
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>>218061916
Except the Beast of Winter who doesn't give a fuck
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>>218061567
I don't think it takes that much effort for them to watch a single person, and Eothas' return and the wheel's destruction are pretty big issues
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>>218062071
What the fuck is his problem anyway?
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>>218062149
He's like Shiva except passive and not a good guy. He's the god of the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics so basically it's impossible for him to ever lose, even destroying him would advance his goal.
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>>218062226
I wonder if he's mad because he has eternal life.
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>>218062226
I love how people spout off bullshit in here like it's cannon. He's got like one paragraph on the wiki and that's it, this game's lore is a goddamn joke and you know it.
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>>218063368
Or you're just a brainlet.
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Maybe a bunch of Engwithans who were opposed to creating the gods got told "lol you're gonna spend eternity waiting for the heat death of the universe" and were used to create Rymrgand.
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>>218063368
>Entropy is specifically referred to by the hanged dwarf in Gilded Vale as "Rymrgand's work"
>is the god of stillness
>wants you to destroy all the souls
Gee anon I wonder what his motivation could possibly be
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>>218063450
How does Rymrgand even exist when the Engwithans created the wheel at the same time as him? He's death but Berath is reincarnation so since she exists and so does the wheel.... how... He has no purpose.

He's got TWO SENTENCES that aren't describing his appearance, this game. is. a. fucking. joke.
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>>218063601
Yeah that's some fucking insurance right there, creating a god that wants to destroy the gods and put you back at square one. It made more since when the wheel was metaphysical, they don't realize how much they fucked up in the second game. They actually wrote out a god, that's how retarded Obsidian is.
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>>218063849
>How does Rymrgand even exist when the Engwithans created the wheel at the same time as him?
1. This was retconned from PoE1 where Thaos all but says the only thing that existed before the gods was the wheel and cycle of reincarnation. The Wheel that Eothas smashed is the one the gods use to siphon off bits and pieces to fuel themselves.
2. Just like BY GORN represents death too, he represents a different type / aspect of death. This isn't hard.
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>>218064082
God you're so fucking stupid, the wheel from the first game was metaphysical and existed before. The wheel in the second game was created.
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>>218064204
Yeah that's my point you nitwit
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>>218061567
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>>218064253
Sorry I just assumed you were an asshat
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>>218064390
Literally what is his problem?
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"Worshipers of Rymrgand consider resurrection a punishment, rather than a blessing."

Real big missed opportunity to have Rymrgand followers being the first introduced "antagonists" only for it to be revealed that Rymrgand and Eothas dindunuthin. I think that's better than having some one-off character that you blow up with a grenade being your first... and really only bad guy in the game. Too bad Obsidian forgot their own lore.
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>>218064691
His hobbies include both guiding seekers of knowledge and driving them insane. I can understand worshiping him if only for the illusion of it improving your chances of him not driving you crazy.
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>>218064390
>play as a priest of wael
>lots of [wink] [clever] options are suddenly visible
I swear
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>>218065406
So literally Kojima?
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im getting kinda bored of standard party comps / solo. anyone make any meme teams based around a specific gimmick or something?

I was thinking about making 4 gunners of a few diff multis and having one character act as a run around as a rodeo clown to lock down the enemies. was probably gonna make the MC a helwalker / sharpshooter and mix up the others with paladin, the distraction char will probably be a pally/druid which would make it easy enough for the other 4 to stay safe
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>>218067880
Four Wizards
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>>218029730

Multiple Huana lament that Nekataka breaks the usual context of the prizeshare, in which communities are small enough that everyone knows everyone and the Roparu can't be hidden away from view. I sort of inferred that the queen only got to the position she did because she was better than the others at dealing with the RDC and VTC, and that if circumstances hadn't forced them to become a more centralized nation things wouldn't be so bad.
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>>218068541
I mean yes, they have a point. The concept of communalism works perfectly when your tribe is 400 people strong and you know 100 of them personally. But that doesn't mean that the Huana don't act retarded in game, I mean the part where the guy gets 'tricked' into selling his tribe's land was evidently written in such a way that I'm supposed to side with the dumbass who did it. But it's not as if he's not the one who agreed to it, and it's 100% his fault that he didn't read over the terms.
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>Huana nigger get his land jewed by contract quest
>Wants to screw both of them
>Gets benevolence since I didn't shoo the nigger away asap
>be bleak walker
Is there a way out?
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>>218069147
Yeah I hate that the only way to get Luca as a crewmember requires you to get a point in benevolence. Thankfully it's not absolutely necessary to have a master rank boatswain
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>>218070506
I end up screwing Luca's contract and supposedly got him fired, then I shot the huana guy. Apparently no one gave a shit and when I go back to Luca he thanked and paid me.
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>>218067880
wizard, druid, cipher and priest, all dualed with monk
the muscle-casters
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>>218076550
>have you tried killing yourself
Brutal
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>>218076550
>that fucking dark tongue of mordor
i wish she would go through it
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>>218067880
a group of kind wayfarer/wizard arcane knights that spam CC and kalakoths blights with flames of devotion
of course it will be aids waiting until you get 3rd lvl spells with a multi, just use sceptre either dw or with a shield until you get the blights, wands / rods would also go with the theme but I think only sceptres dont have penalty in melee range
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>>218076550
>INTlet
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>>218080546
RPing as a retard who totally fell into this whole Watcher business and is in way over their head and just wants it all to end is by far the best way to play these games.
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>>218080902
Whatever helps you sleep at night, buddy.
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>>218080546
Blame Tom for making sacred immolation completely worthless
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>>218080063
I take back what I said about kalakoths blights, those things only get 5 pen on my lvl 20 wizard, my second idea was that the friendly healing from sacred immolation would make it worth stacking to offset the raw dmg but apparently thats only on the 9th lvl upgrade, while it will not be efficient it might be fun to try casting it on all 5 at the same time and then seeing if the dmg could be offset by casting healing chain with 2-3 of the kind wayfarers casting FoD for the aoe heal, or maybe loh spam on everyone

assuming you can manage to outheal the sacred immolation dmg on all 5 chars and the enemy is not immune to fire, thats 20-30x5 or 100-150 vs reflex per 3sec which would make it a lot more fun than attempting use it on 1 char
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So Berolt isn't spawning and he is leaving in 5 days. Is he permanently bugged? Does he even matter at all?
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>>218083037
The trader from POE1? Sometimes his first visit bugs out and he's not actually there.
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>>218083382
Yeah he isn't anywhere. Should I just let it be? Does he visit again?
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>>218084081
yeah it fixes itself
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>>218083382
>Caed Nua still doesn't work like 4 years after release
wow
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PATCH
WHERE
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>>218090482
It's being rebalanced please understand
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>>218090573
NO JOSH I DON'T FUCKING BELIEVE YOU
YOU HANG OUT AT E3 AND DON'T BALANCE SHIT
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>>218090631
Shut the fuck up you romance-in-rpgs obssessed manchild do you have any idea how balanced my game is it's the successor to BG it will sell twice as much as PoE1 prostrate at my feet before I balance you permanently.
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>>218090709
>I balance you permanently
Please do
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>>218090782
*balances priests*
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Just finished a PoE 1 run. Are the save import features still all fucked up?
>>218090898
One thing that really annoys me about this image is that it comes from the 5e PHB, but there's no shields in the system that would be a good representation of that.
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>>218091641
JUST REFLAVOR BRO
IT'S A MEDIUM SHIELD BRO idk did they get rid of medium shields vs. bucklers vs. towers or something in 5e?
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>>218091725
I don't really mind forced abstraction with shields to an extent, but one like that is basically as against the rules as written for them as possible. It would be easier to call it a off hand weapon that gives a bonus ac point
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>>218091876
Oh, I see what you mean.
I think it's just shoddy art, it looks more like a guy holding a spear and shield together in one hand with the sword, an obvious sidearm, drawn for the sake of posing.
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Do companions and sidekicks use the same custom AI you set up during ship battle?
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>>218091876
Haha wow I made the joke about getting rid of different types of shields as just that, a joke, but it turns out they really did
God 5e is a shitfest
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finally settled on how I wanna do my next run, gonna be
5 arcane knights 2 evoker 3 pure
2 the evoker subclass ones will use DW pistols and 1 the spearcaster arbalest that scales with arcana
1 is going to DW sceptres
1 is going to dw sabres
and the MC will use gladsword + toutillas palm

and I am going to make all of them look exactly the same, gonna start up the clone wars
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>>218092351
>a buckler and a pavise offer the same bonus
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>>218092351
>Needing 15 strength to wear plate effectively
>Plate weighing 65lbs and the weights in general
You'd really think that they'd have dropped some of this shit now, what with the trivial access to people telling them how dumb the idea of super heavy medieval equipment is (see also: studded leather existing at all, padded armour being worse than wearing boiled cowskin). Do the larger swords still somehow weigh 15-20lbs?
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>>218094623
Doesn't seem so, the heaviest weapons are pikes which kind of make sense
Also I mean I don't mind the weights, I mind that they somehow count towards encumbrance for anything but nonlethal from forced marching. If a fat man isn't encumbered from his own weight I don't see how a fit man in armor is.
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>>218094773
>a crossbow weighing 18 pounds
What the fuck
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>>218094623
"Leather armor" is kind of vague and annoying in regards to whether it's boiled leather or just something like a buff coat. It's at least easier for me to pretend padded refers more to thick clothing, and studded leather refers to a jack of plate or something. Full plate is also kind of iffy, but there's no end to pointing out shit like that in DnD. Really the best thing about 5e's equipment is that it was clearly designed to be as adaptable as possible with pretty transparent math. A lot of those names are just tradition bullshit
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>>218095212
But the same shit goes for earlier editions, and their math made more sense to boot. Nothing is stopping you from fluffing your chainmail as some sort of armored longcoat.
Studded leather is most likely just a misinterpretation of a brigandine, while padded -is- thick clothing it's a gambeson, a big-ass quilted shirt, but it's still armor. Full plate isn't very iffy at all, it refers to platemail armor which sure it's a class of armors but they generally mean the same sort of thing.
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>>218094831
Heavy Crossbows really are heavy anon. Some even go further to 24 kg.
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>>218096207
What is it even meant to represent? An arbalest? Why is it even martial when arbalests invariably come with a crank or lever to load them with?
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>>218095989
The math didn't really make any more sense. Maybe less depending on what "earlier editions" you're referring to. We're wandering into the area of personal preference, and edition war bullshit is better saved for /tg/. As for plate the reason I mentioned it was that it could refer to something worn while jousting that is hugely encumbering or something much more reasonable, and the stats used for it across editions seems to imply each at different times
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>>218096434
FUCK 5E FUCK 5E FUCK 5E FUCK 5E
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I swear to god if you guys revive this "deadfire" general again to talk about unrelated shit I'm going to skullfuck your mothers
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>>218098012
Give me patch, Josh
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hows everyones runs going tonight?
not metagaming to hard right?
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>>218098659
I don't even play the game. I just start it up, adjust AI behaviors for an hour or so, then close the game.
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>>218098778
I'm working on that arcane knight group, pure wizards probably would have been better, but im not that far from opening fights with 5 empowered fireballs which will atleast feel good to watch
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>>218098778
I don't even play the game. I just start it up, realize that I'm a cis white male, then close the game.
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Give me 1 (ONE) good reason not to eat the souls at the Heritage Hill.
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>>218099594
constipation
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>>218099594
Unhealthy food
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>>218099594
Unknown long term effects off eating souls and the fact that anything other than blowing it up means someone else might use it. It works out well enough mechanically though
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>>218100260
>Unknown long term effects off eating souls
I suppose that's fair. Simply regaining (a part of?) your soul in 2 is made out into a weird thing too.

>anything other than blowing it up means someone else might use it
What if you return to eat some more?
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>>218102709
Well the ending doesn't say exactly who uses it the second time. I assumed it was the vampire bitch, but there's not much reason it couldn't be a particularly dickish watcher. It's not as if many other people know enough of the language to really do much
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Ac.
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>>218105175
Ekera
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One (1) room left of Endless Path level 7, full of Wind Blights. Edér is durable, Sagani is rarely targeted, Itumaak is only good to absorb the inevitable first shots after coming out of Stealth. No more 1 per rest items / abilities left.

Guess it's time to lay down a shitload of trap with around the chokepoint, let Kana chant miles away from the battle and summon Phantoms to help out, maybe risk an Arcane Assault and some long-range Cipher spell with PC.
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>barbarian with barbaric smash and blood thirst
>set AI behavior to barbaric smash near death targets with 0 cooldown
>mfw I send him into a crowd
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Where the hell is Mirkes soundset stored? All the other companions and sidekicks have their own named folder in the voices folder but there is not one named "mirke". I want to use it on my orlan Watcher.
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>>218107364
Nevermind, it was "fd_mirke" for some fucking reason.
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>>218107364
Why would you want it?
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>>218107364
Fucking slut.
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>>218107364
How do you even make companion/sidekick voices accessible to the player?
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>>218106787
You can do it, anon.
I believe in you!
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>>218107698
It's a simple process of renaming the voice files to correspond the soundset you'll be replacing the new one with. In this case I'll replace the feisty female soundset with Mirkes one. It just takes FUCKING LONG because you have to do the whole thing manually and Mirke for example hase 146 seperate sound files.
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I'm new to this genre. How do I stop being fucking trash at everything?
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>>218109321
abuse that pause button and actually think things through
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>>218109321
Positioning, use chokepoints and think about where you place our tanks, dps and healer characters.
Having a good balance of melee and ranged characters, you'll need at least 2 tanks to keep the enemies away from your squishy casters.
Keep multiple weapons with multiple different damage types around, if al you have is pierce damage and you meet a skelly you're fucked.
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>>218109321

What difficulty level are you playing on?

The hardest difficulty levels recently got a boost, but I've seen some complaints that this change also upped the middle-tier difficulties more than it should have.
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>PotD
>Get level 4 start because why not
>Upscaling on
>Enemies on the first cave have twice the HP and +2 AR and PEN
Mistakes were made.
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>It stares up at you, unblinkingly, and finaly releases your leg. When you make no move to chase it away, it hops up and down excitedly
I always save mother sharp rock
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>>218111041
I'm just on classic without level scaling. It's not that I'm dying a lot, it's just I feel like I have no idea what I'm doing or what I should be doing on combat.
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>>218113167
>Classic
Literally do what you want, it's going to work anyway. Go play for fun, not for minmaxing.
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>>218113292
What are the strongest builds in general anyway?
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>>218113880
There isn't a "build" in general but Wizards with Empowered Projectile spells will kill pretty much anything in a single stroke, for now. Paladins are extremely tanky which means everything as the game goes on. Do note this means for PotD, Classic is far more laidback and if you want to do a firing squad team then you can. I don't really recommend starting over to play on PotD if you want a "challenge" as they really went off the rails with this. Not impossible, just a bit more hassling than before.
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>>218112923
>image
May as well rename it to Eder in Deadfire.jpg.
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>>218114180
How's veteran difficulty?
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>>218115036
Vet's fine I suppose, never really tried it but PotD's main schtick is just add more enemies, which often leads to you needing a extremely durable tank or lots of tedious pulling. Without that, Veteran might be the right moderation of difficulty.
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the wiki says "Mage Slayers lose 50% Duration to any beneficial effects, including Frenzy." is that still true? i can't find any reference to that in game
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>tfw Kana only injects that sentence about Sagani if she's an active party member when you find the Tanvii ora Toha

Based. I wonder how many conditional details exist in dialogues. Unfortunately, not even Reputation/Disposition markers seem to highlight these.
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How are monks in Deadfire?
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>>218119573
Fucking crazy
You should have seen the kind of bonkers shit people pulled of in 1.0, one shotting the final boss with inner pain.
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>>218107825
>tfw I was able to do it by leveling up Aloth (thus gaining extra Health/End +1 LVL3 Spell Use > Displaced Image > Penetrating Blast > Scrolls / Blast spam)

Thanks, m8. It wouldn't have worked without the creative usage of the "bench" (Cipher: Pain Link on Edér at start / Kana: protective chant + summon / Durance: Holy Radiance for the wandering Sagani / Aloth) + gear / potion optimisation.

Hopefully, Gabrannos was purposely nothing but a Skeleton Wizard for story reasons, so he went down pretty quickly. Oh, and learned that Kana doesn't chant in Stealth and that he can only have 1 active trap.
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Well, turns out Mirke's soundset is fucking awesome for my corpse-eating ravager orlan. Nice.
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Huana will rise
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>>218125743
Ekera, I say.
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https://www.strawpoll.me/15804413/r
Declare yourself.
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>>218125743
>huana smoke and ashes will rise
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>>218126302
How is that even a question for a true born son of Rauatai?
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>>218128860
Bazzo.
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>>218109321
pause and manually select the specific abilities you want to use
read abilities and what they do / what they hit
full attacks are really strong with duel wield
if a mob feels hard to kill check its AR and saves, there are very few mobs which do not have an obvious weakness
debuffs are your friend and if you have tekehu you can literally cover everything in chillfog without worrying about hurting your friends
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How do I make le cringing elf man like me? We best best bros in poe1 and now he can barely put up with me
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>>218126302
>Declare yourself.
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>>218130539
You don't.

*rolls eyes*
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>>218130539
Don't crack jokes, be a good, benevolent and dutiful person, and you'll get that elf dick eventually
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>>218130539
the best way to do it is to not add him to your party right away. just leave him at port maje and recruit him after you see the ranga at ori o koiki
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how hard would it be to have an entirely Aumaua crew on a voyager? Are there enough aumaua crew members to fill each role?
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>>218137627
anon no
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>>218137627
This is surprisingly efficient, completely stops his whining.
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>>218138084
There are 9 aumaua crew members if i remember right. Thats a mix of island and coastal, use this for crew members:
https://pillarsofeternity.gamepedia.com/Pillars_of_Eternity_II:_Deadfire_crew_members
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>>218139405
Hmm, neat.
Too bad there aren't enough island aumaua to fully overcrew a voyager. I wanted to RP as a Huana nationalist.
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been eating dead bodies for a while, its pretty fun
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So do I actually get to see and speak to Kana or was it just that small boat scene?
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Is it better spread skills out or to focus on a couple completely?
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>>218139950
>I wanted to RP as a Huana nationalist.
Godspeed, anon. Just don't forget to set your int as low as possible.
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>>218140045
That's it.
Maybe if people din't shittalk him so much we'd get a proper conversation.
Jk, we never would.
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>>218140215
Thats dumb, whats the purpose of his hat being in the game then I wonder.
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>>218139950
I suppose you could sidestep that since if you hire a shit ton of mercenaries they will be the ones to appear in ship fights. Crew members dont matter that much apart from some stats if you're willing to ignore that.
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>>218140201
I can't, I'm a tempest so I need an actually respectable int.
I just make up for it by never picking rational options.
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>>218140495
I wish there was some system for creating crew members like there is for adventurers.
They work the same as regular crew mates but don't have any reactivity to ship events and stuff.
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https://fangmich.tumblr.com/post/174916820559/fangs-deadfire-flower-crown-portrait-pack-what-a
poedg why haven't you released a mod yet? getting outclassed by tumblr, how embarrassing
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>>218141087
For what hidden purpose does this exist?
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>>218141087
Too busy keeping this thread alive
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>>218141073
Probably because its not that big of a deal just some ship stats that you wont see most of the time.
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>>218141489
But my rp autism
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>the fagboi that left his backpack in the bathhouse quest
>get mugged that the other guy on the way back to Queen's Berth
>everyone on their side with a gun just keeps shooting without ever needing to recover or reload
I see this is 100% intended and is very challenging and a great PotD experience, great game, 0 bugs. Thanks Balanceman!
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>>218118723

That was just the beta.
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>>218142293
The Principi have mastered the weapon swap strats.
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>overwhelming wave isn't foe-only
for fuck's sake tekehu you fucking faggot i hate you so much but the chill fog game ridiculous
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bleakwalker solo tips?
which blessings pick?
should i multi monk?
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>>218142293
They just told me they'd """escort""" me, to which I responded that I really don't need that but they're welcome to come along if they're headed the same way. Then I handed in the quest and literally nothing happened after that. I don't really know what the purpose behind that exchange was.
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>>218142293
>he doesn't have infinite ammo
should've came prepared, aimica
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Is mob stance shit now with the nerf? Is warrior stance good enough to justify spending a point when I have pally aura for the accuracy?
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>>218143096
If you opened the package and read the letter you'll know. Anyway I just wanted a fight to loot and sell their gears. What kind of true born son of Rauatai am I if I don't have a Big Shark Junk?
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>>218140035
>Accurate Carnage
Carnage doesn't follow accuracy rules.
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>>218144354

that's poe2, not poe1.
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>>218144614
Yes. It still doesn't.
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>>218144214
You can do the same thing if you open it. It doesn't change your ability to give it to his captain
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Christ I thought the alpine dragon was a cunt but the Llengrath makes me wanna kill myself.
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>>218145967
Are you trying to fight her on lvl 12 or something? I've had far more trouble with the ondrite fisting crew than Llengrath.
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>>218145967
I don't really mind Llengrath because there's little chance it isn't one of the last things you fight in the game. I always want to fight the Alpine dragon just as soon as I get the quest and get my shit wrecked
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>>218146514
They're both total and complete shit. Ondra's fuckbois are still worse those since they gave me eye cancer with their special effects spam.
>>218145967
Have Kana kite with ogres and spam paralyze/crush damage scrolls.
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>>218145967
wall of many colors
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>>218146514
>>218146903
I've always just pretended to be the tidebringer. Why are the ondrites so bad?
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How broken are tanks in deadfire? I have 150 hours in the game and I've never gone above 10 for a defensive stat.
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>>218147424
Even if you play along with their nonsense, you still get fisted in the basement. And they have infinite defenses, massive damage and prones that last for 50 seconds.
I genuinely believe those guys are the toughest enemies in the entire game.
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>>218147702
I'm so glad they got rid of durations for prone. Being "prone" for 10 seconds just seems like nonsense
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>>218147482
Mandatory for solo playthroughs which are all that matters
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>>218148257
>solo
>mattering at all in a party-based RPG
haha, yeah
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>>218143079
>bleakwalker solo
Pick a different subclass because all your Zeal is getting spent on Lay on Hands
>blessings
None because blessings are for scrubs
>multi-monk
Only if you want to wait until level 16 to get your first good spell
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>>218148410
>>218148257

You can beat the game solo level 4, it's not much of an accomplishment. Just an exercise in autism. I don't know what's more sad, the casuals who didn't make it off tutorial island 1.0 or the neckbeards who lost their grindfest a la POE1.
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Is there a way to remove hired adventurer's without murdering them?
>>218149009
>the casuals who didn't make it off tutorial island 1.0
What? How?
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>>218149207
Boredom I guess
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Easy way to dodge attacks from a single enemy without incurring disengagement:
>Wait for enemy to start attack
>Make pawn move away a few steps
>X misses Pawn (out of range)
Requires micromanagement and works better with high stride, but great for solo play.
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Is the only way to get the ghost ship by joining the Principi?
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>>218151782
Sort of. You only have to accept the quest, you don't actually have to complete it. You can snatch the ship, then run off with it and join someone else or go alone.
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>>218152062
Nice, thanks for the info.
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>>218146903
That made it almost too easy. Thanks
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>>218137627
Well, that's a way to do it
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Tell me about archmages. How many are there, actually? Minoletta, Concelhaut, Arkemyr, Llengrath, Ninagauth, Citzal, Kalakoth. I believe Tayn, Ryngrim and Maura are as well? Are there any more? It also seems they all have some gimmick: missiles for Minoletta Minoletta's Intercontinental Ballistic Missile when, illusions for Arkemyr, protective spells and wards for Llengrath, elemental AoEs for Ninagauth, close combat buffs and weapon summoning for Citzal, corrosion and drains for Concelhaut. What is Kalakoth's gimmick, though?
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>>218156528
One of them had some slimer with them in the room when you talked to them, maybe their thing is summoning?
I didn't really pay attention, they're all fags appart from Llengrath and Minoletta.
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>>218156863
That was Maura, I think. She has the writing tentacles spell.
>>218156528
Kalakoth has sunless grasp, freezing rake, and minor blights. The first two seem to hint at turning his hand cold and doing shit with it, the minor blights is just summoning tiny blights to throw at people. I also see Caedebald's Blackbow, but I'm not sure how well represented he is in the Circle if he's a member at all. Guess we'll find out in that DLC eventually.
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>we'll never get to join the circle of archmages
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>Mfw using concelhaut's corrosive skin on concelhaut
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>>218157315
>we'll never get to kill all the archmages and rid the world of their magical shenanigans
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>>218157315
>archmage DLC
>you can meet them all
>you can kill them all
>you are now the only member of the circle of archmages
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>>218157242
Maura and Caedebald were mentioned by Concelhaut as pioneers of time magic. Would be neat if they added some spells that decrease spell casting duration.
>>218157315
I wonder if they'll accept Aloth.

BTW, I've noticed that wizards have no buffs that are not self-centered. Is it because they are self-absorbed egotistical assholes?
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>>218157519
>you're not even a wizard
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>>218157982
>aloth becomes archmage
>creates spells
>Aloth's Eye Roller literally twists eyeballs in their sockets, causing blind, confusion and raw damage
>Aloth's Pained Expression makes everyone around him cringe, adding distracted and sickened debuffs
>Aloth's Trumpet Blast creates two massive sonic shockwaves that deals crush damage and frightens enemies
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>>218157519
Those are some very high hopes, anon.
That's a lot of big encounters to design, probably would need to have unique areas as well.
We'll get another two members at most, we've already had two in deadfire.
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Can the Watcher pimp around in dumpsterfire? I want to make Rauataian babies with Maia but I always want yandere hick murderwaifu.
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does berserker frenzy mean the berserker just starts attacking his own teammates? or does it just mean AOE attacks his friendlies too
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>>218159890
The watcher isn't a degnerate adulterer, their love is purely monogamous.
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>>218160049
It means everything aoe does friendly fire damage, including carnage. You can nullify this by casting an int inspiration on them.
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>>218160049
The damage done to teammates isn't noticeable after level 5
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>>218159890
As far as I know you can't make babies. Only steal one in the first game, but it's better than leaving it to be sacrificed by rock worshiping savages I guess
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>>218161608
>leaving it to be sacrificed
Simoc's got hours to live after poisoning at best, no one else was going to sacrifice her.
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>>218158132
oh so it's the Skyrim Winterhold questline?
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>>218162171
Unless his successor wants to. It seemed more reasonable to just remove the kid from the situation.
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>>218162171
>poisoning Simoc
That's obviously his shit son's plan to get ahead. You gota kill them all. Fuck the three tusk stelgar
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Does Glasvhal show up in PoE 2 if you stop him from entering the white void?
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>>218164092
No, why would he? That's called reactivity and this game has none
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>>218164092
There's the upcoming beast of winter DLC if they don't appear in that teleportation machine quest, but really I just have no idea because I always cockblocked them
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>>218164305
>>218164829
I was 100% sure I saw a screenshot where he was in deadfire. I know if you let him go through he'll be mentioned by the god when you do the telleportation quest but idk what happens if you don't let him through.
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>>218165126
nope
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>>218164305
It would be more "reactive" but also kind of strange if instead of going home like he said at the end of the quest he decided to just fuck off to the deadfire islands
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>>218165409
Leave it to obsidian to put him in deadfire instead of somebody like sagani who lives like 3 islands away.
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Who's /importing new watcher from poe2 into poe 1/ here?
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>Naasitaq is a remote southern island nation, located in the Deadfire Archipelago. Many boreal dwarves and aumaua share the rocky tundra and snow-covered forests with far-roaming caravan elves who drift near the shoreline. Naasitaq is the biggest and most stable nation around. Various nations and empires fight over the islands, to the east of which are sea monsters that invariably annihilate any ships that attempt to go exploring (many of them dwarven).
map expansion when
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>>218165991
>>218166245

Deadfire's a standalone game or a reboot as it doesn't expand on the lore whatsoever, and instead retcons/ignores everything form the game before. This is doubly insulting when they didn't even bother creating a new MC and half the companions being from the first game. In no way i this game a sequel to the first but in name alone.
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>>218165991
I'm more annoyed that they put Pallegina in when all of her endings had been at odds with her being in the game. Not to mention being a shitty unpopular character. If they wanted to put a random unpopular character back in they should have gone with Kana, since at least that would make sense
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>>218167727
I specifically chose for her to not complete her assignment so she'd be more laid back and go on more adventures with me (in my first playthrough, I never chose her again after that). And what do I get in Deadfire? Hatred?
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>>218165126
He's in deadfire, and you meet him in Rymrgands realm when you do the vtc soul spire animancy quest. IIRC hes in a cranny before the "boss" area with a bunch of wisps and dead farmers.
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>>218163080
>That's obviously his shit son's plan to get ahead
Both Simok and the son state none of Simok's biological children would inherit the title.
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>>218167727
Kana was unpopular? As for Pallegina, well, it's Sawyer's "nepotism".
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>>218167727
>If I say she's unpopular then that makes it true
The height of retardation right here. Meanwhile in the real world, she's the only character people bothered writing about and making tons of fan art for.
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>>218173868
Back to balancing, Sawyer
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Should I make Xoti a murderwaifu for [shurg] walker?
>>218172362
Only a heretic postenago would believe in facepainter lies
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>>218173868
Because she's a nigger and a champion for the overall tone and underlying message that Obsidian wants to get across. "Gods suck and if they do exist they're asshole and deserve to... not exist." Liking Tokengina means you're the exact target audience that Obsididna wants to reach, the whiny, pale, lactose intolerant fuckboys who think they're progressive because they hate Christians. No, not that they don't believe in Christianity, they HATE it. Lots of daddy issues in among the Obsidian team.
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>>218174583
Calm down you retard
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>>218174817
Wake up sheeple, the one thing this game has gotten down through both games is their anti-religion rhetoric
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>>218174947
An anti-religion rhetoric against a polytheistic pantheon full of gods made of the souls of an ancient civilization dabbling in forbidden magic who siphon off souls to live where the god who's presented in the most positive terms is a Jesus stand-in you fucking spastic
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>>218175124
>Jesus stand-in

You honestly think they tried to make Eothas a good guy? Everything's morally grey in the game because they didn't want to take any risks. The one thing they actually put out there is that gods are evil, you think Eothas wasn't written with the intent of being chaotic neutral like the rest of the fucking game?
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>>218175552
Eothas is literally working to save human souls and wants humans to advance forward without being shackled by gods who are at best lawful neutral and at worst parasites working to destroy the world, he's a god of resurrection who inserted himself into a human body, was killed, and rose once more having shed his mortal self, he's presented as benevolent if extreme.
Not everything needs to revolve around your dead fucking jew on a cross and certainly not to fuel your sense of persecution, I'm not even a westerner so there's that. God you're obnoxious.
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>>218175552
Eothas is in an overwhelmingly positive light, even retconning his past crusade, just like Abydon did absolutely nothing wrong in the WM.

You were clearly too busy being butthurt with both games to see what could not be clearer just in front of you.
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>>218175792
>Not even a Westerner
I'm not even Christian, opinion discarded Mohammed
>>218175965
>How about we make the Antagonist actually a good guy! What a novel idea!
That's Obsidian's thought process on the matter
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>>218176443
>I'm not even Christian, opinion discarded Mohammed
I'm Chinese, actually, but I like how you can't come up with any counterpoint so you deflect the first post you respond to and move the goalposts on the second. Wow! We were fighting against Jesus all along, now we realize Jesus was a good guy! Somehow making Jesus a good guy is anti-christian? Are you fucking high? I take back me saying you need to go back to /pol/. This conversation belongs on /tard/, not even on /pol/.
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>>218176791
>Eothas is Jesus, Eothas is Jesus

They stole Jesus' backstory, nothing more. And it's not that I can't come up with a counterpoint. You admitted you're not western, so I don't think you have the right to talk about western ideologies you communist dog. How about that?
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>>218177083
>if someone is not Western they have no right to talk about Western ideologies
I can make the argument that Christianity tacked onto Judaism which is just melded Semetic Paganism with Zoroastianism, so unless you're a brown man you can stop talking too.
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>>218177184
Yeah 2,000 years of cultural development doesn't matter, fucking retard. Go back to worshiping Tiber Septim you dumb gook bastard
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>>218177083
>They stole Jesus' backstory
the irony
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>>218173868
if she were half as cute as this image i would actually lament her not being a waifu
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>>218177964
lul xD
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>>218177567
>Go back to worshiping Tiber Septim
retard outs himself as a disgusting elf, typical
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>>218178415
It's immoral to worship a man. And it's also illegal. A faithful Imperial citizen would know that. Perhaps there's something you wish to confess?
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>>218178959
Are you trying to say Jesus isn't a man
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>week and so after patch they still didn't release hot fix for adra fuckup
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>>218179279
wat
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>>218179003
I wouldn't go so far as to say he was human. More like a thoroughbred with reality warping powers.
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>>218179392
That's theologically incorrect you pseudo-Christian, assuming you're the troll up above.
If not, well, the way it works is that Jesus is both fully a man and fully the Son, which is a bit mind-screwy sure but that's how it is.
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>>217949127
>winter


nope
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>>218179524
Yeah that whole holy trinity bullshit is fine and all, but when you're actually trying to define the person Jesus it doesn't fly.
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Seventeen-and-a-half
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>>218179761
The trinity bullshit kind of works insofar as they're essentially three aspects of God, who is perfect and basically Yog-Sothoth, and while yes I agree it doesn't really make sense for Jesus to be both Man and Divine when Man is specifically not Divine, you just kind of have to roll with it - theologically the idea that Jesus is divine instead of human, or that he's more divine than human, or whatever, was condemned at or before Chalcedon, which means only the monophysiates and miaphysiates really disagree.
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>>218180093
Yeah but biology suggests he inherited traits from Mary who was very much a human, even if she was just a vessel. The subjective nature of the Bible can easily support that humanity and divinity were both separate or intertwined. Or in my case, it would be more realistic to think both were the case.
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>>218180619
The problem is that God didn't literally come down and shag her, he just kind of had Gabriel come down, whisper 'lol ur pregnant' and that was that
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>>218180724
Yeah I know, but if there was a God I would rather believe his powers still function within the realms of reason and the boundaries he himself set. If he functions outside the laws of nature all bets are off and anything's possible, and therefore the ability to gauge any tangible event in the Bible goes out the window.
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>>218180974
>therefore the ability to gauge any tangible event in the Bible goes out the window
That's kind of the point.
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>>218181026
I know, and it's why I'm not a Christian
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9eR0nZCTuo
NEXT PATCH WILL ADD CHALLENGE MODES
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mace, flail or warhammer as a crushing weapon option?
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>>218183396
>beast of winter is a winter-y zone
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>>218183396
>wanting to play PotD
>they announce this shit
>have to wait again
whats the fucking point
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>>218183419
I would go with flails, if you're playing blind you will be more likely to find them. but the other 2 even though they are more limited can still be gotten fairly early
I personally like using scepters or the quarterstaff but I guess you have RP reasons
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>>218186201
It just never ends.
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>>218186578
HOLY SHIT SPOILER THAT SHIT DUDE ITS PAST MIDNIGHT AND THE LIGHTS ARE OFF HERE
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>>218183396
guess its time to take a break then
I have a few fun ideas for spell combos when I get to the high spell lvls with this party, when I hit 20 I might hire a team of 4 pure pallies and see if the friendly healing from ranking sacred immo to divine immo can outheal the dmg if used on 4 at the same time or find a combo of that + healing which will be fun for me, and if it doesnt work, atleast I can keep the arcane knight clones
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>>218186787
There's a skelly inside you
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Good lord, POE1 feels so different after POE2, it's almost like a completely another game.
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>>218187871
Wow, crazy, these two games are almost like two separate games
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>>218188208
I haven't felt like that when I played POE2 after POE1 tho.
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>>218188347
But going back to poe1 you did? Maybe it had just been long enough. Personally 2 felt pretty different immediately for me
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>>218188439
Not really. I replayed it a month before POE2 release. Probably just spend too much time in 2.
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>>218186201
Hope you're strapped in, since they'll keep releasing more challenges, probably alongside the DLCs.
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>>218188439
not him, 2 feels different to me also. personally using the 2 system I would love it if they went full IWD or setup some kinda custom dungeon system or custom bounties (like load a group of characters into a small map for a fight with no impact on main game)

my main complaint is that theres not enough dungeon delving and endgame fights
but I like it overall especially with the new patch
hopefully when all 3 dlcs drop it will become the game it could be
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>>218188439
>>218188736
>>218189202
I'll say it again, 2 is not a direct sequel and maybe it was supposed to be but that's not what they delivered. At best it's a reboot.
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What if we made every big and strong character a woman?
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>>218190870
What if we let the dead thread about the dead game die instead of resorting to inane shitposting?
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>>218190870
If the women were cute I don't really care.
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>>218190870
And then you can make a male watcher and dominate all those big strong women.
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>>218190870
>the female companions are a bloodthirsty psycho, a scheming spy and a black cunt
Redpilled as fuck.
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fassina is by far the most attractive character in the game
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>fassina is by far the most attractive character in the game
Nigger
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Ac.
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>>218192749
belfetto
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Fuck Rymrgand, I say.

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