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= NEWS =
>Season 2 Patch Notes Revealed
http://www.avoidingthepuddle.com/news/2018/9/3/tekken-7-upcoming-season-2-balance-changes-unveiled.html
>Season 2 Released
http://www.avoidingthepuddle.com/news/2018/9/5/season-2-of-tekken-7-is-now-live-on-steam-playstation-4-xbox.html
>Patch 2.01
http://www.avoidingthepuddle.com/news/2018/9/11/tekken-7-version-201-update-fixes-unintended-balancing-issue.html

= BASIC INFORMATION =
>/tekgen/ Information Compilation and Character Guides
https://pastebin.com/As6i43qM
>Notation
http://www.tekkenzaibatsu.com/legend.php
>Fergus' character overviews
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yqgxbES6su4clpQou2hzlZN40rpPBtwmMRKWfexbj3g/
>Frame data for every character
http://rbnorway.org/t7-frame-data/
>Top 15 moves for all characters
https://drunkardshade.com/2017/05/27/tekken-7-top-15-moves-for-all-characters/


= TUTORIAL VIDEOS FOR NEW PLAYERS =
>How to Approach 3D Fighting Games
https://youtu.be/p7Ar-RctqyU
>Korean Backdash Cancel (KBD)
https://youtu.be/gLp3Y0PdV94
https://shoryuken.com/2017/02/17/this-is-the-year-you-will-learn-how-to-perform-tekkens-korean-backdash/
>Button Buffering
https://youtu.be/38iJWsjc_w8
>Options at the wall
https://youtu.be/2SW7kCmA23o
>How to get off the ground
https://youtu.be/j-PDc20Jezg
https://youtu.be/11oZkTYI6Rs
>Low parrying
https://youtu.be/SF2wBESs01U
>Oki/Tech Trap
https://youtu.be/LYqbvQljTw0
>Throw Breaking
https://youtu.be/m4em9HzrwFI
>Wavedash
https://youtu.be/QDycsZYw56o
>Wavedash/Backdash on pad
https://youtu.be/fU5Ji23k4LU
>Combo video playlist for each character
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDzNGonyeoUtBqYuqku0QqNwk2mcSlV_n
>Dealing With Strings
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uSlTGr0XFkRS3q4uSMUecGcMbXOQa3hLJ46GqFHk3HI/edit
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Play and love, LOVE! Mishimas!
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Play AND LOVE,LOVE! Lili!
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>>227927161
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I love my robowife, Alisa!
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Josie
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dreamboy coming tru!!
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>>227927161
Why would I play that anally born bitch whore of a character, let alone love her?

Are you mentally deficient, trolling, or both?
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>>227927531
Completely rude and uncalled for, I may love my robowife but I respect other Anon’s love for their waifus
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>>227927161
I want to see Asuka grow a futa cock and fuck that clingy, stuck up rich bitch into a submissive cock-sleeve
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So red is now new green?
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>>227927601
Purple is now dans
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>>227927531
Josie friend here, what the fuck is up with the waifu hate?

>>227927587
Based robot friend
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>>227927601
Teal is now the place to be for real Tekken
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What's the most you've ever demoted in one session?
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>>227927601
Unironically yes
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>>227927587
This.
I love Lili, but i respect all the waifus.
your robowaifu is cute!
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>>227927601
Not playing the game is the new Blue Ranks.

>>227927760
I'd say after dropping two ranks in one sitting, that its time to take a break.
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>>227927760
I went down on a spiral yesterday and demoted 6 ranks.
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>>227927760
Warrior-GM
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>>227927760
Brawler to initiate
I’m at marauder right now
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>>227927861
how the fuck
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>>227927760
A smurf jim demoted me from grandmaster to 4 dan, in my defense i had less than 40 hours on the game
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>>227928007
I never lab stuff I just play online. I work during the night and I spend most of time playing Tekken, there aren't many people playing at those hours so I usually get the same 5-6 people and I deathmatch them. I don't care if I lose 1 time I lost 20 matches in a row before winning 1
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>>227927861
Fuck, after 2 or 3 drops i would have called it a night.
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>>227928192
What coast, what times, what do you play on?
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>>227928194
It's funny because once I get hints of how to play against them and win a single match in like a best of 10 they losequit me.
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>>227928007
Not him but that's happened to me when I played drunk.
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>>227928294
East Coast, 11PM-6AM, PC, Juggernaut
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>>227928192
what's your job if I may ask?
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>>227928349
Well that makes sense considering how much they already milked out of you
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>>227928512
Based starting on Mondays maybe we can play some player matches. I'm still green but I'll try to get it up to yellow in time.

>>227928743
Not to be rude but this. I got into greens by beating some Korean Kat who was tough as shit and after I won again I only got 50 points where when I was losing I was going minus 300.
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>tfw drop out of green again
hep
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>>227928649
Security

>>227928743
I guess, people care about ranking too much in my opinion
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>tfw havent made it to green yet
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>>227928859
Sure anon, if we aren't dead by Hurrican Florence by then
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>>227929156
>hurricane
you mean the cat1 storm?
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>>227927760
Fighter > Expert
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>>227929156
>>227929219
>Storm is already at NC
Oh shit, I'm JewYork. Please live bros.
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i hope you all die
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>>227927597
There's actually a surprising amount of asuka/lili futa porn out there.
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>>227929521
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzfGYf4tHJM
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mommy!
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>>227929521

I mean... even if everyone dies you won't be able to get out of green ranks, simply because no one will be there to let you win.

Think twice anon...
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What happened to Saint?
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/tekgen/
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>>227930158
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>set 4 bar
>get 3
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>>227930320
>Feels like 2
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>>227930485
it didn't feel as bad as others, but i beat his ass and now he's dodging me
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We all know Knee has a 90 percent chance of winning the TWT Finals.

Who will make the other 10 percent? Who is next most likely to win?
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>>227929156
>>227929219
>>227929421
>A what if scenario by using a green screen
Oh my fuck, this is how a widespread panic happens.
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>>227930574
Jeondding will win with buffed Chloe!
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>>227929952
post-Jack nerf depression
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>>227930574
>he thinks qudans wont suddenly level up in time to sweep twt like he did last year
hilarious
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>>227930574
Knee is going to be read like a Book
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>>227929952
I think Saint would look good with that beard in a different hairstyle.
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>>227929952
He know Ganny is coming back
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>>227931078
f4...
db4...
f4...
db4...
f4..
ELECTRIC
db4..

kore ga genjitsu da
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For me it's Lili
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finna pick up Alisa again
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If I want to get started with Chloe, how much attention should I pay to her stances? BT is clearly important, but her other two stances seem less obviously useful and I'm wondering if it's worth cramming all that extra shit into my head right now.
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Is king's low launch not launch punishable?
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>>227931770
it's only -11 iirc
The idea is you're supposed to low parry it on reaction.
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>laggy leo that keeps going for that one sweep
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lmaoooo
it's so obvious he comes here
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well now i feel bad about all the bad things ive said about him
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>>227930574
Dimeback
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>>227932073
Add him to the discord
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speekkiks get in here
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>>227932073
>speedkicks posting his own tweets then alleging that he visits /tekgen/ under the guise of a random anon in order to take credibility away from the notion that he visits /tekgen/
nice chess there stephen but 3d doesnt fool 4d, go work on your neutral
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i like speedkicks now
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>>227929952
turning into Harada
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who is on the /ourguys/ list?
speedkicks
kingjae
jeondding
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Does anyone know of any good Yoshi streamers ( preferable korean ) ?
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when are we getting Sasuke
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>>227932073
but you are speedkick
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>>227932748
>speedkicks
nah m8

/ourguys/
bruv
jonny d
cutcc
majin
saint
aris and don't even fucking kid yourself
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>>227932748
kingjae is in /ourbruvs/ list
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>>227933126
It's funny how Aris, in that list, is the one who's been playing the longest and at the same time the worst player.
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>>227933126
t. cutcc
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>>227933126
+ mainman, nobi and virallinensivutuote
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great i have no idea what noctis is doing
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>no one will rep /tekgen/ at tourneys
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>>227933459
Basically all of it is punishable.
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>>227933471
uui is known as a weirdo freak irl, so he has nothing to lose by associating with 4chan
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>>227932748
>>227933126
>>227932748
>>227933126
jeondding
cutcc
majin
saint
aris
GURA TV
Josie Rizal_Bot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBDPy9m9JTo [Embed]

>>227933403
>Mainmeme
No


>>227933471
I got to my first tourney next week but Im still green literally. I also don't want to put tekgen in my name and get a Broly "why wont anyone sponsor me" legs case
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>>227933572
Don't forget about the EU boomers.
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>>227933403
Hasn't TMM funded for Evo twice and ended up not going?
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>>227933727
How the fuck can he do this and his fans lap it up?
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>>227933572
>have a completely normal foot fetish for a cute french girl
>everyone thinks you're a weirdo
poor guy
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FUCKING WINQUITTING LAW
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>>227933995
it's polygons nigga that ain't normal
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https://twitter.com/Sirlin/status/982088291662028800

Why is Tekken's netcode so shitty?
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>>227933995
>have a completely normal foot fetish for a cute french girl
This is your mind while playing Lili.
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>>227932073
Compared to his other tweets, this is actually fairly good advice
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>>227934302
probably because they don't give about anyone outside of japan and korea and they have great connections there
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>>227933995
>have a completely normal foot fetish
>completely normal
bruh
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>>227932073
how is that imply that he come here?
Lmao is used so widely he could had get it from reddit
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>>227934497
Nice try big brain kicks but you can't fool me
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>>227934497
You gotta try harder than that fast feet
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>>227931453
Good taste my friend
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>>227931453
I wait forever for Roy to make Nina and Alisa card
but when they finally came out I coulnt even fap to it for some reason
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I don't think I can play any more of this if people simply refuse to rematch
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>>227934949
>His dick died while waiting for the perfect fap material
Its a funny thought but my condolences brother
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>>227930672
I won’t accept it
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>>227932831
Can Superman break a genjutsu that puts you in a loop?
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>SUB GOAL 132/250

Why haven't you done your part?

Someone's got to pay for that website, merch and theme songs..
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>>227935441
>paying for sub ever
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>>227935441
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>shit taste waifu doesn't skip ending animation
>alt+f4
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>>227932748
jeondding
framewhisperer
mainman
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>>227932748
Majin and Chanel
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>>227933403
>>227936773
Fuck off mainman baby
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tmm is the embodiment of /tekgen/
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>>227932748
Speedkicks
King Jae
Runitblack
Mainmanswe
Asuka that got RDC'd by Majin
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>>227937418
couldn't be more wrong if you tried

we only have one /ourguy/ and /ourguy/ is and always will be naps
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send HELP
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The game is currently on sale for 19,99€, is it likely that there will be a better in deal in near future?

And can someone please explain how the DLC works? Do I need to get them in order to play against people with the new characters?
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you're not good enough :^)
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>>227937908
You don't need DLC to play against them it's only for playing them yourself.
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I VANT
TO SUCC
YOR COCK
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>>227938029
based buffs when
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>>227938029
go away Fergus
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watching this made me wonder why Secret keeps punishing Shaheen's hopkick with 1 4 3, Josie's 10f punish, rather than the 12f punish (f2 4).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cay_W2_L2Yo
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>>227937968
Great, thanks.

I think I'll just get it now.
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>>227938294
Maybe for a twitch reaction he's more comfortable with it. And a hopkick goes pretty fast. Punishing it with i10 gives you a lot more leeway, than a i12. It could end real bad for you if you miss the timing
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>>227932748
Joey Fury and Anakin the Redbull athlete
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>>227938294
I don't know why he does it but I do it because the 10 frame is faster and nerves come into play sometimes so its better to stick to what you know will work.
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>>227938517
yeah that's what I often do myself but I would have assumed a high level Korean like him would do better. hopkicks being -13 on block is such an universal thing too that you'd think that it would be pretty easy in the long run to train yourself to use the optimal punish there, even if for other -12 or -13 stuff you would go for the 10f punish for simplicity and leeway. I guess even really good players have these little (but obvious) suboptimal habits.

without the wall f2,4 isn't massively better but when it's near you miss a lot of damage.
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*Saves NA Tekken*
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>>227940025
he's mid-evolution
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>>227940025
Now I see what he wears a mask.

>>227940120
fucking this
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>>227940120
>>227940223
wew, rude AND racist
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/ourgirl/ is going coach Chen into a champ
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>>227940025
>>227940223
>>227940320
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You have been practicing your electrics, right /tekgen/?
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>>227940527
>/our"""girl"""/
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>>227940320
I meant his tekken skill you racist!
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>>227940530
I just gave up playing mishima today
from now Im Bob main
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>>227940320
>>227940530
>Racist post and then Kaz post out of nowhere
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>>227940527
Thats not Mimi or Yuyu.
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>>227940973
Still the wrong girls
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Do you think tekken could take over the FGC?
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>>227941070
>Tanukana
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>>227941070
Tanukana is so 2017.....
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>>227940973
>crybaby ki-charge Yuyu
>ourgirl
lmaooo
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>>227941145
Nah, 3D fighters will always be sorta sidelined I think.
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>>227941383
That thread was fun
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>>227940953
>kaz post in every thread
>racist post in every thread
>out of nowhere
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>>227941253
>>227941308
>Supporting crybaby milfs
LMAOOOO
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>>227941383
>booing Jimmy when this happened
what the fuck man
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>>227941475
Tanukana cried too after getting destroyed by Beautifuldude
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>>227941564
Did she taunt and ki-charge him?
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>>227941383
>>227941475
>Not thinking that was hot as fuck.
Simple Minded.
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>>227941531
Anyone getting Jimmy booed is scum

>>227941564
Show me the part where she tried to meme him with a ki charge

>>227941603
>Women crying is hot
/r9k/ pls
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>>227941597
playing xiaoyu is tantamount to taunting and ki charging, actually doing it is just a formality
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>>227941736
Here come the gymnastics
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>>227941783
Actually lili does gymnastics, xiaoyu practuces 8 trigram palm
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>>227940527
James Chen is such a chad how does he do it bruvs?
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>>227942283
He sacrifices animals to his cat horde. And cats being a sign of the devil, it makes sense
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>>227942283
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>>227942412
saint has a beard now...
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>>227935029
general rule is rematch if the match itself is decent or you are having fun in general, not for the sake of rematching because you can. Quick match is better than playing lobbies anyway.

>Nina vs Anna match for 2hrs last night
no idea how lorefags do it
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how many frames does the low need for it to be consider reactable?
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>>227942753
I would say the time a normal throw comes out and the time you get to escape it combined
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>>227942753
Is this a rhetorical question?
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>>227942753
23 is the average
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>>227942753
15
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>>227942753
Judging by how often pros get hit by Kat's db3 or even Jack's debug, we can assume 24-25 is not fully reactable.
I'd say i26 is where you definitely should be able to react to it. With i23-25 being 'maybe' depending on the person and how often the move is being thrown out.
Anything faster is unreactable.
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Who are you gonna be playing today? Anyone trying someone new?
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>>227933126
>aris and don't even fucking kid yourself
kek, it's funny because it's true
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When is SCR?
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>>227933593
>Josie Rizal_Bot
but Bot is a girl, isn't she?
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If you don't like Speedkicks you don't like Tekken
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>>227944757
Robots don't have genders anon
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>>227938294
Her i10 is so fucking good that it really doesn't matter. Yeah f24 is better but you're not losing many percentage points, it's the same shit as Mishimas punishing hopkicks with flash punch instead of their optimal punishers, it's already a top-tier punish and the leeway you get from the extra frames is not insignificant.

Whereas characters like Paul, Lars, or Katarina who have shit-tier i10 punishment but high-tier i12 will punish a hopkick with the i12 pretty much every time.
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>>227939232
this just further illustrates how bullshit a good hopkick is (mostly claudio/shaheen/katarina). if even the best players can't i13 punish, let alone i12 punish, it means you're doing that much less damage and the risk vs. reward is that much higher in favor of the hopkicker. shaheen does around 70 damage iirc from an optimized combo hopkick, so if your 10 frame does lets say 25 damage, you need to punish 3 out of 4 hopkick attempts to be a little ahead of what the 1 hopkick landing will get. and this is even assuming you are able to react each time to punish it (although you do have 2 more frames to do so now in S2).

you then throw this into pro level play where a good shaheen is optimally using the hopkick instead of just spamming it and you have a nightmare of a move. and this isn't even taking into consideration all of the other bullshit moves he has now.
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They did a great job at balancing the Mishimas. If dj wad toned down just a little bit more the balance would be perfect. Just make his hellsweep launch back turned and they are all equal.
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>>227947040
Well with Katarina's hopkick it's one of the easiest moves to punish in the game so if you aren't going for optimal stuff you have nobody to blame but yourself.

I mean the only character who really gets a ton of mileage out of their hopkick at the top level is Shaheen anyway, and that's just because of the power of his FC game and its ridiculous hitbox.
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>>227942283
>chad

i wouldn't really call crying about the game being too hard and people making fun of you a "chad". what's the word for someone who gets a woman to have sex with them due to pity? like jerry from rick and morty. that's james chen.

a chad would be like johnny D, he's pretty buff for a korean and gets all the cosplay pussy he wants because he's charismatic and energetic, an outgoing extrovert. chen is like the opposite of that lmao, seriously what's the word i want to say cuck but that isn't it, but probably along those lines.
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>>227941383
yuyu cosplaying as josie WHEN????
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>Online is unplayable now
Fuck auto combos
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>>227947628
Are you really getting upset at super sub optimal comobs?
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>>227947381
>ywn fuck a Lucky Chloe cosplayer after a nice tourney and getting top 8 easily
jdimsa
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>>227947820
>You non combo of blockable moves because hes spamming auto combo
yeah...
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>just took me over 2 hours for a single rank because people kept leaving after 1, win or lose
Jesus christ I hate the playerbase so much. Its full of tryhards absolutely scared to be figured out. I could understand if I was playing Eddy or Ling or someone but its fucking Claudio, the character has 5 useful moves, just play the set you faggot.
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How did they buff Howwrong?
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>Tfw u like rush down Dragunov
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>>227948045
They are super unsafe, what are you on abut?
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Miguel is a ton of fun, you guys should really try him out with these new buffs
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>>227948275
D+3,4 flowchart has been buffed into the stratosphere.
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>>227944459
I've been messing around with a few characters, Steve and Miguel mostly, but honestly I'm just going to stick with my main Shaheen like I have been. Even despite how people say he's simple/boring I feel like especially in S2 there's just so much to him when you consider how many of his moves are viable. I've been experimenting with how best to use iWR2, I've been practicing the new CH f+3 combo and when I can use it (and have started using b+1 more often too which I wasn't before, both good moves to use out of neutral), recently figured out that d/b+2,1 is the combo ender you need to use to wallsplat close to the wall vs. db+3,4 when you're further away, still improving my slide mixup, trying to figure out how to condition people to get CH by 1,2,2 (it tracks incredibly well btw, one thing im wondering about is how useful it is to whiff 1,2 on purpose so the last 2 CH's when they try to whiff punish), getting used to using 2,3,SNK1/2 for i10 punishes, etc. I also want to try using db+3,4 every now and then in matches and see how much of an effect the pushback on block has on people.

He just has so many single moves that are really good for a variety of situations, I want to keep exploring all the shit he can do and he's my best shot at ranking up. I'm currently warrior rank and my goal is to get to vanquisher by the end of this month. I think after I accomplish that I'll pick up a second character seriously and stop playing Shaheen for awhile. I said before Shaheen feels a lot more unga this season and I still stand by that, they really improved his ability to get in people's faces.
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Hows Gigas now?
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>>227947332
i'm pretty sure shaheen's hopkick has the biggest hitbox in the game. also shaheen has just always been a more solid well-rounded character than claudio which is why you never really saw claudio ever win anything but there were 2 shaheens in EVO top 8 this year. he has the hopkick AND a bunch of really fucking good tools and of course the slide and d+3/4 give him solid, if few, lows. idk how things will turn out in S2 with claudio compared to shaheen but i was watching sephiblack's stream a few days ago and saschadasilva (who was a claudio main iirc) was saying he hated the changes to him and that miguel was basically a better claudio now. so who knows.
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I don't wanna buy Anna cause I know I won't end up using her, but how do I deal with her pressure strings?
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>>227948505
shut up greenie
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>>227942753
Knee can see hellsweeps.
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>>227948505
i'd honestly play him if his unblockable wasn't such an easy input to accidentally press
what were they thinking
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>>227949031
Treat her like Nina. ssl
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>>227949031
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGa2GZt7Kwc also ssr not ssl
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>>227949440
>>227949652
Thanks friends.
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WHY IS ranked dead again
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>they fixed shaheen's f,b+2 so it actually throws from far away now
>they moved the damage distribution around so that you get 4 extra damage on CH instead of only 2, so a CH f,b+2 does almost 60 damage
>it's only i14 and -4 on block

don't sleep on this move, it's basically a i14 high launcher if you think about it considering the damage. the problem before was that it was really finicky with actually getting it to transition into a throw and now they fixed that, holy shit.
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>>227950057
Because Genbu is the new Brawler.
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>>227948585
How to deal whit new flowchart?
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>>227950308
i have all on and it fucking takes 15 minutes again and then its against 5 same people against
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>>227950915
What's your region?
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>some stupid shit happens
>it's always in their favor
why are these trash player so fucking lucky holy fuck
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>>227951207
EUROPE
This is fucking horrendeus worst i have ever seen. Its me and 3 other guys its gets really broing really fast
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>>227951208
Tekken literally does not have any luck in it
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>>227948505
I might pick him up solely because I hate against him and want some new perspective on beating him. What's a good place to get started with him?
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>>227951303
>Its me and 3 other guys its gets really broing really fast
>me
>3 other guys
>broing
Bro-ing? is that what kids call it nowadays?
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>>227951454
he's suprisingly easy to pick up, here's a good guide to get started
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ULimbT-wzUWlxr1MA-xGgoaopCVsGPLFPVtJc88o2yg/edit
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>>227951303
I'm playing in Europe too and feel your pain, bizarrely few people playing it seems.
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Why do Mishima mains genuinely think their characters are hard?
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I always wonder but for all you ninafags here
how many of you actually do her iws1 combo?
I spend many many hours this past few weeks practicing it and at this point I have around 60% consistency of doing it in a match and at this point I dont even know if its worth it anymore
since you barely even get more damage out of it compare to regular combo
the only use for it is the wall carry from otherside of the map since most of damage is backload and if you are too close to the wall then you cant get all the iws out and if you are remotely near or even mid map then her regular combo usually carry far enough to reach the wall anyway
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>>227951689
They have just reset their ranks since its new season after all.
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>>227951995
Their characters are hard. The real question is why are you so insecure that you need to be constantly posting about this?
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I think i14 ewgf punish is such impractical move to practice and any variation of perfect frame input punishes. It's going to get really inconsistent on real match and I've seen high level Korean players claiming they shouldn't used those moves because they will input it wrong most of the time.
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>>227952112
I dont use it at all, a dropped combo does no damage.
Her qcf 413 ender already gives a lot of wall carry if you want that.
iws1 was something that came out in t6, its not nina as a whole.
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>>227952112
>expecting nina mains to actually perform hard execution combos instead of just complaining about how hard the character is while doing piss easy combos and mashing strings instead
lmaoooooooo
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>Lei is finally in
Feels so fucking good bros.
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What are the best characters are cracking turtles/defensive players in the game? I'm still thinking about who to pick up as a 2nd besides Shaheen who is already weak to turtles, so picking up Steve who also has the same weakness (to an even greater degree) seems pointless if I want a way to counterpick Shaheen's weak matchups, and Miguel is apparently extremely weak to SSL plus his still t-rex arms worry me. I've read that Law is actually really good at rushdown and cracking turtles so especially with the slide I may go in that direction, but I'm just curious what my options are otherwise.

Which characters excel at beating really defensive characters (think asuka, jack, etc), and why?
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>>227952668
Hey maybe if you actually learn how to do it you can hold yourself a higher standard and join in the meme
even if you do not actually use it all that often
just like learning electric with heihachi
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>>227953125
Are you trying to imply Heihachi players don't use electrics all the time or that they can't land them consistently?
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How do I take advantage of people who backdash away for like 10 seconds after any and every move?
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>>227952994
Characters that force 50/50s tend to be good at forcing people to break their turtle.
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>>227952158
mishima mains.
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>>227950352
Guess.
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the thrill is gone
I can feel it
I'm slowly but surely getting bored of this game

fuck
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>>227952994
>>227953536
Also just playing defensively yourself can work. Getting the life lead against an Asuka player and watching the cogs in his brain turn as he's trying to process the fact that you're just standing still and waiting for him to make the move instead is bliss.
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>>227953534
follow them until they hit the wall and start your mix ups there
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>>227952994
If you think their defense is topnotch, you are just being predictable with your approach and strings. Try to dance with them and see how they react or throw in 50/50 moves
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>>227953971
Just wait till the announcement of the 8th king of iron fist tournament hosted by G Corp!
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>>227953972
>>227954050
Yeah, I think I need to keep that in mind. Shaheen is a very well rounded character who can pretty much play however you want, but he thrives at range 0-1 and bullying people into getting CH launched so it can be hard to all of a sudden have to switch gears against defensive players who will eat you alive for doing that. I've started practicing with using b+1 and f+3 now so I'm hoping that my midrange game is more on point in the future for fighting matchups I seriously loathe like asuka and jin.
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Katarina got buffed?
Also 90% players are just Jins with auto combos.
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>>227954647
hey keep it down will ya?
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>>227954647
Fuck, boob pockets are so dumb but so hot at the same time
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>>227953971
Watch this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2KcBUlQR1o
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>>227953971
how many hours do you have in the game?
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>>227954796
>boob pockets
??
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>>227955071
Normal clothes don't present the breasts so perfectly. "Boob pockets" refers to these typically drawn depictions where the fabric seems to have been designed to cup the breast and in the end looks like just a naked boob with a different texture.
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>>227954857
not that guy but im still a noob and luckily SC6 is coming out in a month so that will be my "other fighting game to play" so i can stay with 3D.
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It seems like you can't delete your local save file anymore to reset ranks. I've tried in season 1 and it worked but they might have actually fixed it in season 2.
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>>227955535
Doubt it, haven't heard anyone else talk about it so far
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Whats a good character to fuck Jin
Fuck this 90% Jin meta.
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>>227955801
hey keep it down will ya?
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Im a red rank faggot and I'm addicted to smurfing. How do I cure this satisfaction. I just love shitting on low level retards and busting caps on other fellow smurfers
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>>227948993
Katarina's hopkick has the best range. Shaheen is second along with a few characters like Claudio,.
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>oranges are the new greens/teals
Then why the hell do I not get games, Einsteins?
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>>227955801
https://youtu.be/zU1tD6Wcy14?t=4087
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>>227955535
Went to test, still works.
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>>227956223
Katarina's has the best range, Shaheen's has the biggest hitbox. Katarina's is a 2-part move that goes far forward but Shaheen's just jumps up in the air and has a gigantic hitbox even though he doesn't move forward.
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The absolute mad lass
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>>227957243
the strongest milf
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>altf4 within the first 5 seconds of the first round on a fuckface whose internet made the game go 50% slower and have constant hitching rendering it the single most unplayable mess I've ever seen with my own eyes
>get a penalty
Nice netcode there, Tekken, this isn't going to discourage me from pulling the plug on less than playable connections.
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>>227955801
for real though, what is happening lately? 4 out of 5 people I fight in oranges are Jin players. They buffed this edgy clown of all people and now he's basically 90% of the online character pool as you said. I fucking hate Jin bruh, this nigga is safe on EVERYTHING
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>>227957243
Typhoon can't hit aop
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>>227957243
probably trying to take advantage of all the good players not showing up there to try another attempt to steal top 8 lmao
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>>227957484
>he's basically 90% of the online character pool
I think this was the case even in season 1
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>>227957612
>water starts filling the venue
>Yuyu insists they keep playing
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>>227957243
"Start it."
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>>227957546
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>>227957709
>water starts filling the venue
>commentators look outside, typhoon hasn't arrived yet
>it's yuyu's tears filling the venue
>the crowd boos jimmyjtran, who isn't even at the event
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it's kind of amazing how someone like James Chen has this scrub baby mentality about Tekken. he tries to pass it off as him just venting about his own issues, but that's insight into how he thinks about the game and learning it.

I'm under no delusion that he's some well respected person because of his skill level, because on all accounts he seems just go an 'okay' player, but I would expect someone who is so involved with fighting games to have a better mentality.
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>>227958097
>because on all accounts he seems just go an 'okay' player,
He isn't an "OK" player, he is a terrible, well below decent level player at everything he has ever touched. I still cannot comprehend how a guy like that could have made it so big within the community with such atrocious level of play.
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>>227956167
this is indicative of bigger personality issues in your life beyond video games. i know this because i've dealt with the same exact thing. just letting you know you're going to have to change something or you're going to be unhappy forever.
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>>227958097
>>227958228
he's known for being a commentator not a player. also aris already said the same thing, that it's weird how shitty of an attitude he has despite having been in the fgc for so long: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJj66BAo6bk
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>>227958541
Why do I care what Aris said?
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>>227958601
because what you said isn't new or interesting and the point was already made literally over a year ago.
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>>227958601
the fatfuck can articulate his thoughts well
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>>227958541
>he's known for being a commentator not a player
I know, but a commentator like Sajam was good at Injustice -when got into fighting games- and was a Top 1000 player in Jive -I can't recall if he still plays it that much- meaning he could, at least, take a game from a top USA player in a FT10, if not more games.
James could barely beat some random guy in ST, let alone SFV.
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>>227958228
I mean okay in the grand scheme of things, not just in terms of competitive play. as someone who is constantly around top players, who could easily play sets against some of the best players in the world if he wanted to, then yes, he's not great at all, but that's not necessarily what I meant.

I get disliking james, but he's definitely a decent player.

>>227958541
that's some great editing.

>>227958680
hey nigger faggot, that isn't me. james was literally just crying on twitter yesterday and today. it's a relavant discussion, despite what your favorite streamer thinks. not everyone watches everything aris puts out.

DIDN'T YOU SEE, MY FAVORITE STREAMER ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THIS!

lmao shut the fuck up, faggot.
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Where do i begin with Lei? I'm going to learn it all eventually, but which stances and what not should I be focusing on first so I can go right into matches asap?
>inb4 lmao just ff3 XD
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>>227958680
That person isn't me, dumbfuck. Again, why do I give a shit about what Aris said? Any two-bit moron with half a brain can come to the conclusion that James Chen is a whiney baby, as a matter of fact Chen crying all the time is a meme in the community. He's known for being a big fucking baby. It doesn't take a greasy armenian neckbeard to tell you that and if it does you're just stupid. Stop dickriding is my point. It doesn't appeal to anyone except other dickriders.
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What's the best tekken song and why is it Your Sunset?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj1XRs2y0Uo
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>>227952994
steve can literally get guaranteed dmg on block
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>>227959478
Holy shit i just realized the webm matches the beat, i wasn't even trying to do that.
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>>227953534
Literally just spam mid launchers and hit them mid bdc. Its online you slmost certainty will launch them
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>>227958759
I'm >>227959341 so I'm obviously no Chen fan but what you people don't understand is that you don't have to be good at a game to be knowledgeable about it. You can recognize everything that's happening on the stream while being fully incapable of doing any of it.
In Chen's case he's got that california privilege. He happens to be in Cali, the home of FGC personalities. If you get in good with the people there, and demonstrate that you at least have a good understanding of fighting games even if you're bad at them, you too could be a personality there. It's basic nepotism. Chen's been around for a long time, he was there from the grassroots and even though he sucks shit he knows how the games work and he's in the scene. What part don't you understand? We can debate all day about whether or not he "deserves" to be a commentator. The facts are yes he's a gigantic baby, yes he sucks at fighting games, but he also knows about them and is good at talking about what's happening on the screen during pro matches and he's also in good with all the people that run events in the FGC, therefore he does commentary a lot. That's all it takes.
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>>227959478
when Tekken 7 first came out, I thought they had somehow managed to top Your Sunset for customization music, but in hindsight, I was wrong.

this is still pretty good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGitooV3iuc

but I miss Your Sunset.
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>>227959478
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUPpro8LF-Y
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>>227959478
wrong, it's always this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6awV2p758VI
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>>227959478
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=380rSziMpxg
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>>227959478
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX3pF7upKpc
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Chen's probably just forgotten what it feels like to be a real beginner because in most 2D fighters the skills carry over from other games to a greater extent but in a game like Tekken which works very differently and has insane amount of game specific arbitrary stuff to memorize, the game's not much easier for him to learn than for any other old man that's unfamiliar with fighting games.
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the nostalgiafag in me is crying listening to old tekken music
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJM2R2Ab4Vw

I'M HERE NOW
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>>227958097
>>227958541
Why is he trying to learn the game through online ranked battle though? I think that actually was how Anakin originally learned the game or something but generally that seems like a really frustrating way to learn this game
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>>227960416
This and the Shinjuku stage music are sooo good. Tekken 4 had such a unique sound and aesthetic. Gonna emulate this shit real quick
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>>227960887
Anakin's been playing in arcades since he was a kid
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Why do i rise up slower than the enemy?
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>>227960775
have a look of this boomer
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L1Zmmbou3s
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>>227961401
this is some very shitty taste you have here, anon.
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How do I get Katarina's hair color on other characters? It's like a reddish brown but I can't seem to emulate it at all.
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Im sorry I'm tired of Chloes, Yosie, and all the fucking female characters dancing around me when I'm playing King.

I'm done with this slow ass character, I'm going to main Lili now.
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>>227961630
The universal customizations in this game are basic as fuck, you might not be able to copy it
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>>227959478
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlSkIzTJ9UY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXf1EduoIY4

Tekken 4 literally cannot be beat
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Okay faggots. Who do you think has the best:

>Punishment game
>Wall game
>Oki game
>Low game
>CH game
>WR game
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>>227961928
Jin
Jin
Jin
Jin
Jin
Lei
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>>227961928
i don't know enough about the game to answer these questions and i hope the rest of the thread is honest with themselves when responding to you
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>>227961928
djin
djin
djin
djin
djin
djin
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>>227961928
leo
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>>227959240
don’t try to Speedkick it right off the bat
Better off flowcharting with razor rush into whatever each transaction
Just know every combination you can kill off your razor rush
By the time you familiar with it so should you with all your standing stance then you can look for which move can be use to get in what stance

Then you have to get into lay down/play dead
These thing is pure mix up and required some IQ so you really have to know which is which and what move do exactly which
Cause sometime when you want to slide and end up doing random flip can fuck you up pretty bad

After that then you are in Speedkick territory with drunkstance with laydead up and down mix up on top of back turn haha step
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>>227962259
how you dare complain about leo you literally can't
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>>227961928
I've never heard of those games, this is the Tekken general.
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5 decides my main, only requirement is that it is a girl.
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>>227962414
Lei, go fuck yourself waifufaggot
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>>227962414
Kat
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>>227961928
DJin
Eliza
Xiaoyu
Feng
Feng
Drag?
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>>227962015
>Punishment game: Jin
How so?
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>>227962414
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Less than 48 hours left to sign up for master cup 10.
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>>227961928
> Josie
> Bryan
> King
> Josie
> Steve
> Jack
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Fuck. I was so hyped for Lei, but Feng is still more fun.
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>>227961928
>Punishment game
Kazuya or Josie
>Wall game
Was Leo kill in S2? I'd say Leo still, otherwise Bryan
>Oki game
Yoshi, Ling and Asuka are all equally extremely annoying
>Low game
DJin, Kazuya
>CH game
Josie, Asuka
>WR game
Noctis
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>>227961809
Good choice
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>>227961928
Kaz(in theory land only)
Paul
DJ
Shaheen
Steve
???
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>tfw have to go to work.

man I wish I had a hiperbolic time chamber so I can practice forever.
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>>227961928
Kazuya
Bryan
King
Mishimas in general
Lee
Drag
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>>227961928
Law and Feng have the best low game. Meme lows like snake edge or not great. These two characters have a plethora of quick lows that deal good damage. That's what you want in a low, not epic launches.
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harada is a hack
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>>227963506
at least he's successful enough to be considered a hack. nobody'll ever call you a hack.
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>>227961928
>>Punishment game
Kazumi
>>Wall game
Kazumi, Paul and maybe King
>>Oki game
Leo maybe, or at least someone with a ground-hitting safe orbital
>>Low game
Josie
>>CH game
Steve
>>WR game
Drag
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I still fucking hate fighting Dragunov
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>>227963765
>Punishment game
>Kazumi
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>>227958806
>I get disliking james
I do not dislike the guy, the only situation I could say I "dislike" him are during big event GF during which he tries too hard to take the spotlight even though he is not the "HYPE!" type commentator.
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>>227959905
My point isn't to berate Chen for being bad, but to question how he became so big, which has nothing to do with what you posted here.
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>>227963765
King does not have even close to the best wall game.
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>>227964116
>The facts are yes he's a gigantic baby, yes he sucks at fighting games, but he also knows about them and is good at talking about what's happening on the screen during pro matches and he's also in good with all the people that run events in the FGC, therefore he does commentary a lot
actually that post addressed how he became big twice. are you literally illiterate?
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Just received the biggest law beatdown of my life

Did he get buffed huge time or what
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>>227961928
>Punishment
Kazuya, DJin, Josie and, if you can do it, Katarina.
>Wall
Jack, followed by Bryan, the rest of the cast is far behind in this regard.
>Oki
DJin, Xiaoyu.
>Low
Josie, Noctis, Miguel.
>CH
Bryan, Steve, Josie.
>WR
Dragunov >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Noctis >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Claudio >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Everyone else
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>>227964337
Actually that post addressed how you quoted a post that isn't mine. Are you literally illiterate?
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Finna d2
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>>227964576
The quoted part is the part of the post you're replying to that addresses the thing you said it didn't address. Do you not know how 4chan works or something? Is english your second language? Genuine questions here, I sincerely can't fathom how you could actually be this illiterate unless you're not a native speaker.
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>>227964376
Law is buffed t other
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>>227963934
>Flash punch
>KND/W! 12 frame with good damage
>15 frame launchers with high wall damage combos
Is there something I'm missing aside from an i13 WS?

>>227964193
Maybe not for specifically splatting with his slow ass W! but his actual gameplan gets exponentially more dangerous at the wall. Many throws start becoming hard 50/50s on wakeup, CH ffn1+2 is deadly, f+4 gets more value to counter people slipping out from the wall, u1+2 becomes useful, etc
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>>227964458
>best low game
>Noctis
Listen I know the spear hits you a lot but you can't go saying dumb things like this
he doesn't have a single low-risk low that leaves him in + frames while standing
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tfw my iq is too low to play anything but mishimas
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>>227964337
That doesn't give a completely convincing answer. Knowledge of high level gameplay must translate to gameplay level. He can't possibly comment on the nuances of high level games when he can't play at a decent level himself.
Knowledge through "watching someone else play" is not true knowledge nor should it bring a commentator to the big leagues.
Your explanation doesn't actually explain how people listen to him or consider his commentary of any relevancy. No matter how knowledgeable of SFV Tasty Steve is, I will never take his word for anything more than a simple comment as his level within the game is questionable at best.
I can't say if your explanation is coming from your own point of view that you don't need to have a background of strong play to comment on high level matches or if you are talking about the general community as a whole, though.
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>>227964962
>Flash punch
>KND/W! 12 frame with good damage
Kazuya has this
>15 frame launchers with high wall damage combos
somebody lmaoooo this guy for me
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On a scale of "you got downloaded", to "you got robbed by a person with 7 years of experience" How smurf is a person with 30 wins at vindicator?
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>>227965242
You're retarded
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>>227965013
His lows have range and damage.
He has a demo-man and a long range low that gives a knockdown.
Noctis is a low-based character with strong low hits.
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>>227965190
>Knowledge of high level gameplay must translate to gameplay level
Says who? You? This is some baseless assertion and you've provided no evidence for it yet you continue on with your post as if it's a fact.
Meanwhile there's tons of evidence that shows I'm right. Try the fact that he's a popular commentator and has been commentating for a long time, but by everyone's admission still sucks at fighting games. It's called experience, chump. You can study all day long and know everything about something but until you practice you're going to be shit, and Chen doesn't practice anything. Skill is applied knowledge. Chen has the knowledge but can't apply it. This is simple shit, fuck out of my face idiot.
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>>227965286
I see. So as a new player, I can expect to reach vindicator as well as learn to perfectly break 100% of all throws in the game in only 30 wins? Good, I thought this game was going to be hard
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>>227965242
>How smurf
Not much. 30 wins in vindicator paints a bleak picture: he either started in yellows -Warrior- through a Vanquisher rank on his primary character, which means he IS stuck in yellows, as 30 wins should have taken you into the next colour.
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>>227965242
Probably just a vanquisher learning someone new
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>>227965384
He has one low that has long range from standing, which is boderline reactable and launch punishable
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>>227965224
Alright fine jeez Kazuyafag, he's good too
You land those i15 EWGFs right? Now just gotta find a i15 mid launcher to properly punish crouch-recovery moves like Lightning Screw
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Any steve experts here? I need some help on his key moves. I wanna lab him, but i don't know how. I'm getting absolutely mauled every time i run into Steve online, and it's difficult for me to practice against him because i have no idea what am i getting rekt by. All his moves look the same to me, i can't tell the difference. What are some of his most common strings and setups?
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>>227965553
>Says who? You?
Yes, I say as a diamond SFV player -got there in early S2- who cringes at the sound of his voice and the blatant lack of knowledge on critical aspects of MU interactions.
I still have nightmares every day he tries to imply Bison can absorb Guile's boom for free. This shows he doesn't actually know the MU in any capacity, not even deeply.
Get fukt and never forget you don't know anything about any game, you are never going to make it a as a commentator and if you ever even try, you are going to become a joke, like SkySonic and your dad Chen. Never post again.
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>>227965640
hey you said either, but only presented one possibility after that
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>>227965602
Learn how the ranking sytem works you mongoloid.
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>>227965938
>boderline reactable
Das right, KingJae, EASILY!
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guys i just found a 0 wins Warrior is he smurfing? ????
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>>227966007
>muh muh online rank
LMAO, like I said, fuck outta here retard. You have no evidence for anything other than anecdotal horseshit and your own delusions on how things "should" go. I don't give a shit about commentating video games because I have my own career, but the fact that you can't understand how Chen is popular says more about your own intelligence than his. Way to embarrass yourself even further lmfao
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>>227966023
Yes, I had a brainfart: (either or...) he started from Fighter, which means it took him the ridiculous amount of 30 games to get to Vindicator, making him a rather poor player.
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>>227965969
Alright now prove to me how Kazumi's punishment is better than Josie's or Devil Jin's
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>>227966220
>absolutely demolished because he has never been decent enough at a game to understand Chen's clear holes so he still parrots nonsense
>"lmfao"
LMFAO indeed, boi, LMFAO indeed!
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>>227966007
>jive baby thinks being diamond in ungafighter5 means he's knowledgeable
go back to your containment thread
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>>227965640
how is 30 wins bleak I have 800. Most people have 600-1,000
>>227966178
yes
how is it fair for anyone who's highest rank is warrior to fight someone who's highest rank is like 4 above that. Fundamentals are communicable across all characters doesn't matter if you're learning someone new.
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Can someone with autism find an easier way to do iWS1?

qcf into uf +1 is awful and so is doing half circles. There is literally NO reason to pick this character when half the cast has low launchers and 500x easier wall carry / easier everything.
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>>227966310
Devil Jin's punishment is very good but not near Kazuya, Josie, S1 Paul or other S tier punishment characters I don't know what you're all about.
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>>227965978
anyone?
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>>227966729
No.
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>>227966619
That's not what I asked you. I asked you to prove to me how Kazumi's punishment is better than Josie or Devil Jin.
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>>227966452
>Diamond in first month S2 doesn't mean anything
>Chen's permanent silver ass means he is knowledgeable
Damn, you Chen apologist are truly trying your hardest.
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>>227966310
What am I, your dad? They can be equally good for all I care
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>>227966476
>how is 30 wins bleak I have 800.
I have bad news for you.
>Most people have 600-1,000
Not even close.
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>>227966476
>how is it fair
Uhh what the fuck else are they gonna do, not play new characters?
Fuck outta here moron
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>>227966801
I'm not that guy I was just saying
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>>227966619
Nice backpedalling faggot :)
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So how do i play Gigas in new patch?
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>>227967009
the new characters could share the same rank? Then learning is called unranked? Its called practice mode? Its called offline? Its called not caring about your stupid rank? There's plenty of synonyms for this but the point is, nobody has ever been able to explain to me, why I'm FORCED against my will to play people who have been playing since like tekken 4 or some shit when this is my first one.
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>>227965242
>vindicator
>7 years of experience
lol
I'd say it rates somewhere around "learn the game"
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>>227967412
you don't
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>>227966601
>qcf into uf +1 is awful and so is doing half circles
Embarrassing
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>>227967823
>learn the game
which takes how long
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>>227967524
Haha okay man calm down
People practice new characters they pick up against human beings because experience is how you learn
Maybe you should consider playing against players with better fundamentals a good learning experience; it's not like you're losing anything but (stupid) rank (which you don't care about)
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>>227968160
A couple months. I swear all you retards have learning disabilities. This is Tekken, not neuro surgery
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>>227968241
I'm not able to learn from a shut out the match is over before I can even attempt to look up the frames for a move
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>>227966476
Playing people who are better than you at the game is the only way to get better, i got better playing a ft 5 and going to 5-1 against a really solid s1 high red player playing his secondary then i did playing all those low Orange, and high Yellow players that were either at my level or below
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>>227927760
vindicator to fighter on thursday back to juggernaut on friday.
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>>227968524
>look up the frames for a move
The literal opposite of what I mean by learn the game. You're wasting your time learning trivia when you could be improving your fundamentals.
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>>227959478
Close
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23-J9n927-Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4QS2uRwaVY
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>>227935441
>Has King in his name
>Doesn't play King
I'm sorry, I can't take this guy seriously
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>>227968762
>fundamentals
>not frames
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>>227968810
>things that apply to a specific patch of a specific iteration of Tekken
>fundamentals
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>>227968810
block punishment is fundamentals for brainlets, knowing exact numbers doesn't matter as much when you're whiff punishing through movement
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>>227969010
>kbd doesn't matter the pros can't do it
>you don't need to know the numbers as long as you can kbd to create a whiff
You guys
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>>227968976
*specific match-up of a specific patch
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>>227969174
there's more to movement than kbd, and although it's immensely helpful you can get by without it
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>>227969174
>>kbd doesn't matter the pros can't do it
Only fergus can't do it, and he plays Asuka, so if you want to play anybody else better learn to KBD
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>>227969281
like what
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How do you break that Dragunov throw where he grabs your leg and snaps it?
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Just play Lei if you can't kbd. Haha step is great.
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>>227968762
>Trivia
>When its needed to learn fundamentals
>Over reliance on kbd to create whiff punishing
Hate to break it to you mate, but even with a insane backdash, you will hit a point where people simply stop whiffing. Knowing your own frames is the bare minimum to getting a better understanding of fundamentals.
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the wind is starting to pick up and it's raining harder
bros i dont know if im gonna make it
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So is Lars better than S1 lars now atleast? I dont care much about muh f-2,1-f not being OP.

He seems like he has really flashy combos and relies on fundamental whiff punishment to get the job done.

Even though I feel like S2 is less about "Muh Korean Tekken"
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>>227969442
I'll think about when I hit it.
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>>227969442
Ment for >>227969010
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>>227969281
>>227969285
this is the bullshit I'm talking about no one even agrees on anything yet everybody loves to tell you that you don't know the game
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>>227969485
What happened to Nagatoro-chan?
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>>227969514
>Even though I feel like S2 is less about "Muh Korean Tekken"
You're obviously a newfag and don't know what you're talking about so why just say shit?
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>>227969685
Because Knee said it. do you think you know better than him
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>>227968805
good taste
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>>227969767
I think you should play who you like, learn the game, and stop parroting everything you hear on stream.
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>>227969485
It’s gonna be TS soon. Stop being a baby
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>>227969442
This is bullshit and you know it, you can't space someone properly without KBD, watch any high level korean gameplay and you see them creating whiffs against the best players in the world
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>>227969957
T yellow that thinks he can play the game without KBD, imagine being so delusional that you think you know better than KNEE
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>>227966982
Maybe he is from PS4 where only way to reset wins is new account.
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>>227969997
bro i'm on the east coast near the shore and i couldn't evacuate in time
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>>227968274
>Yellow thinks he learned the game becausue he hit warrior in 2 months
L M A O
Tekken is a skill-based, experience-driven and knowledge-backed game. A game that takes years to get good at.
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>>227970376
Oh..
well Irma didn’t kill me as a Florida fag and it was Cat 3 for about 2 minutes before turing into Cat 2. Maybe you’ll be fine
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>>227970257
Where are you getting this KBD part from? Fucking hell, you have no argument so you just make shit up.
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Is Law ever not plus on anything he does
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>>227970376
Non murican here, can anybody from NA tell me how fucked he is?
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>>227970591
Why so defensive? I like Tekken but it does not take years to learn. Like I said, sorry for your disability.
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>>227970718
He is one of those unga characters. You need to duck those high,step certain moves and backdash while blocking otherwise he can mash in your face 24/7.
>>227970828
T yellow rank
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>>227970376
>couldn't evacuate in time
You had plenty of time you lazy shit. Practice holding your breath I guess.
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>>227970771
we're fine we survived the 2017 hurricane season
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Getting demoted made me gay
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>>227970921
>He is one of those unga characters. You need to duck those high,step certain moves and backdash while blocking otherwise he can mash in your face 24/7.
Nice non advice. You basically said nothing. I won't even get into your inability to meme correctly.
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>>227959478
Gotta give it to this one over YS by a tiny margin.
https://youtu.be/FPQH2C9IHh4
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>>227970771
If he’s got hurricane proof housing he will live. If he’s got supplies and a generator in case of power outage in his neighbor hood he will live.
If he’s alone, doesn’t have any of what I mentioned, then he might be screwed. This is all assuming it will be brunt of the storm. Basically, Cat 1-2 you’re fine/ Cat 3-5, you must have at least prepared right?!
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>>227968274
>>227968160
>>227970591

do we really have to state the obvious here that there's no single point when you have "learned" Tekken and how high of a skill level counts as "good" is totally arbitrary?
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>>227970376
>A /tekgen/ anon could die today
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>>227963934
You can't seriously believe that Kazumi's punishment is not top tier lmao.
>112
Flash punch, nuff said. Her jab has good range too.
>1+2
Second highest damage i12 punisher I think behind Heihachi's headbutt into qcf1. Easy knockdown wallsplat.
>WS44
30 damage i11 WS punisher that also wallsplats and leaves her with a million plus frames on hit.
>WS12
35 damage i12 knockdown wallsplat with good range

All this plus her hopkick which launches most -15 moves on block even with its poor range, and consistent 50 or so damage i15 punisher in 3,2 (also happens to be a great whiff punisher).
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>>227971117
That's how you deal with law though, most of his strings are duckable, he is also very linear his power crush, wr, backflip is easily sidestepped too. also just a single backdash meanwhile he is doing his memestrings is enough to create a whiff if you buffer the backdash at the right frame, dont talk to me you yellow player
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>>227959478
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqTYcW_7hNU
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>>227971243
He’s probably being overdramatic. Besides, his own fault for not leaving if he really cared about his “safety”
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>>227971320
>sidestep, backdash, duck
Like every fucking character.
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>>227961928
>Punishment game
Josie
>Wall game
Bryan, Asuka, or S1 Leo(don't know how her changes affect it)
>Oki game
Ling
>Low game
Devil Jin
>CH game
Asuka
>WR game
*Eeeeyyyyuuuhhh intensifies*
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>>227960887
the problem isn't "trying to learn the game through online ranked", the problem is that you need to couple that with research, watching pros play your character, and watching/analyzing your own recordings. if all you do is play then you're just beating your head against a wall, but you have to get real experience or you'll never get anywhere, you need both.
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>>227971324
No. And I hope Kazuya burns that walking stove you posted with this link. Absolutely NO
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>>227971418
Others characters dont create artificial pressure like Law does, only other characters that require you to those things to get out of pressure are hwoarang and Geese
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>>227970376
im in massachusetts all we got is super high humidity from this shit lmaooooo
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>>227970376
>>227970771
>>227971158
>>227971243
Anon... I'm sorry... F.

He spent all his time playing Tekken and shitposting here instead of evacuating.

This is your fault tekgen. You could've prevented this.

APOLOGIZE TEKGEN!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>227970124
Yeah you can, through stepping and side walking. Horizontal movement is not nearly as important as well timed vertical movement.
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lol just SSL Florence
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>>227971282
>Second highest damage i12 punisher
Is that still true in S2?
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>>227971875
>He never played against a single Kazumi on s1 or s2
That the only way you could actually believe the bullshit you are spotuing L M A O
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>tfw byakko with law
>only spamming dragon tail
I thought this game suppose to be hard???
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>>227971827
I apologize florenceanon
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>>227971827
I am sorry
>>227972120
Now do it in your locals
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>>227972030
>He literally doesn't know that she's weak as fuck to side walking
>Doesnt even have a safe df2 to dash up and use to shut it down
>In season two its even worse for her now that her jabs got hit
>KBD her wr 2, great idea. Let me eat shit every time instead of walking to the right to make it whiff, reinforcing my point
Very dank my guy
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>>227972317
This is the most yellow post i have seen in this thread, good job lad
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>complain about Law
Is there a bigger tell that someone is a shitter?
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>>227972317
>Her right*
Fucking christ I hate doing that. So your left.
>>227972404
And yet you cant even bring up a basic counterpoint. Very dank indeed.
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>>227972430
Playing King
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>>227972404
You should take a break. All you seem to be doing is calling people yellow and shit posting.
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Remember how in Tag 2 it was nothing but pros past reds?
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>>227969347
Those are his f+2+3 / f+1+4 grabs. They require traditional grab breaks, so you have to correctly input 1 or 2, depending on which arm extends further during the grabbing animation.
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>>227972528
I dont argue with yellow ranks or 18ers
>>227972575
t yellow rank
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>>227972678
thanks i guess. i hate this character
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>>227972721
Fight me bitch. What's your id? Show us your rank. See me on PC.
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>>227972721
Yeah your just shitposting. Good thing you are wrong on both accounts. Really told me!
Fuck why do I even bother attempting to talk about the game on this general
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>>227972831
Post yours and your rank, i'll add you
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>>227972890
ketae
mighty ruler
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>>227972865
Yes Kazumi, a character that kkokkoma picked up speciffically to counter JDCR vertical movement is weak to it
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>>227972890
Nah, I'd rather you be exposed as the real yellow here, and then beat your ass.
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>>227962414
Anna!
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>>227972890
Oksavingsbank
Tekken god prime
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>>227973062
Coward, i'll show you my rank after you do yours, btw is higher than yellows
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>>227971282
Yes but we're talking about the BEST punishment
Kazumi's hopkick range is a meme and her ws1,2 has shit range too
her best punishment tools are ws44 and 1,1,2/1+2
As a whole though, she is still lacking anything significant for i14, no good consistent long range punish for max deathfist/demoman/pushback like Josie and her hopkick range can't be dismissed when it's literally the worst in the game and her only i15 launcher.

She's not competing with Kazuya or Josie, and she doesn't beat DJ's punishment either factoring in all situations.
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Is there a guide out there that shows which side characters are weak to being stepped?
Also, does side walking evade moves just as well as side stepping?
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>>227973181
>Coward
Not even him but you were called out first and refused to share your info first.
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>>227962414
Panda
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>>227973220
Sidewalking is actually better at evading some moves, and there are moves that must be sidewalked instead of sidestepping. Its also a little bit unsafer, with most pro choosing to sidestep guard over sidewalk, that why sidewalk sometimes is considered as a hard read
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>>227973415
I dont mind showing my rank if he does it first
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>>227962414
Eliza
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>>227973630
You're the one causing shit. Confirmed scared yellow.
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Just remove command throws tbqh. The game would just plain be better for it.
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>>227973823
kek If you are going to ask me to post my rank but you are unwilling to post yours then you just dont ask for it at all
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>>227973902
Remove you. General would be better.
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>>227962414
Josie
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How would you re-work throws?
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>>227962414
Josie
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>>227973902

So you'd want every throw to be breakable with a 1 or 2 press? We'd never see a throw land if that were the case.
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They should bring back arm specific breaks.
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They should remove walls because wall combos are too hard
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>>227974237
was about to post this
throws are way too hard to land now
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>>227974015
Nice dodge
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How do I play Gigas?

Do I mash jab?
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leo is the best character in the game
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>>227973014
Outside of B+2 and f+4, yeah that's actually the case.

Kkokkoma is also really fucking good at knowing when people are attempting to walk him and shuts that shit down hard. He forces you to play linearly because of it

>>227974015
Unlike the other guy, I got no qualm with posting ranks. Got em during S1 too, just haven't had time to play online since S2 dropped that much. I'm not even good, doubt that you would glean much from me.
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>>227974471
He wanted to play, and i agreed. how the fuck is telling him to post his rank and ID so i could add him a dodge you yellow shitposter
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>>227974156
The only throws left would be the regular throws, so yes.
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>>227974670
t. Yellow baby
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>>227974670
>how is refusing to post my id dodging
lol
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>>227974651
>outside of one of the best homing moves in the game that allows her to put pressure up close and discourage people from stepping thanks to being +12 on hit, and safe on block she is weak to sidestep.
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>>227975105
Sidewalk. Not step. Some cast members can launch you for sidewalking and be safe, she cant.
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losing to Paul is the most frustrating thing, the character only has to work a fraction as hard as you do to do any damage
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>>227973184
Kazuya's being a punishment god is a meme, it's on paper only. In reality, his i11 WS leaves him with a lot of minus frames. His b12 and 1+2 have TRASH range. He struggles to launch standing because all he has is electric.

He's basically a flash punch and twin pistons machine. i13 WS launcher is incredibly strong, but other than that not much stands out.

Josie, sure I can give you that, but she only has an average i11 WS4 punisher so -11 lows are much more abusable vs Josie as opposed to Kazumi. Also no knockdown i10 standing. Kazumi really has no point of weakness when it comes to block punishment, you're gonna get hurt no matter what. Especially given how braindead easy her punishers are whereas Josie has to work a bit in order not to fuck up her WS21.
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>>227962414
Gigass you fuck
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buff devil jin BUFF DEVIL JIN
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What can I do with an old PS3? I can't even install a real OS on it.
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>>227975289
Sidestep has a 6 frame startup, while sidewalking have an ever bigger move, trying to sidewalk at range 0 against Kazumi is literally asking to be hit by any of her fast moves
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>>227975543
bigger startup*
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How to Oki with yoshi?
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>>227975427
didnt they buffed Josie ws2,1 launch combo? It's easier to connect
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>>227974670
Confirmed yellow AND retarded
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>>227973902
>>227974156
>>227974789
put more command throws in the game.
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>>227975914
Are you going to post it or not? is 10:50 PM here i have other stuff to do,
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEesCwtSOeg
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>>227976163
Oh wow a new player can't break throws who would have thought
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>>227976163
he just wanted to play :(
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Someone please post a guide or video explaining the gist of Tekken's neutral game or "footsies"
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Is it worth it to go for buffered fF43 - f13 dash - shoulder when combing off Feng’s uf4 or f34? This shit is driving me insane for maybe four more damage
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>tfw went from 3rd kyu to Mentor today
Not much but hey, baby steps.
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>>227976621
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeK4Lv0-5lU
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What is the tactical purpose of high moves in Tekken?

Mids do the most damage and are safest on block. Lows are there to make your opponent get hit by mids.

What about highs?
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>>227975430
This but with nerf
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>>227977139
fastest
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>>227977139


>mids are safest on block

This is false. Highs are faster and often positive on block
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>>227977139
In that aspect highs are flat out worse than mids and lows. But you can't simply isolate one property of a move and say that it sucks. Moves have trade-offs and being high is one of them.
For example don't you think it'd be sort of ridiculous to have a magic 4 that's mid? Some moves have to be high to balance them out.
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>>227977139
Highs are usually even faster than mids and most of them are plus on block or have other very good properties (homing, range...) so they allow you to start your offense by establishing frame advantage or forceing your opponent to challenge them eventually, which allows you to set up your CH or hard read game (lots of characters are based around this actually).
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>>227977139
>safest on block
How many punishable highs does your main have? How about mids?
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Alright so I was wrong about mids being safest on block.

So highs are fast and have good frames. In terms of gameplay/strategy, what does this mean they are used for?
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>>227977805
Pressure and keep-out are most common uses of high moves but it depends on the move itself.
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>>227977805
They are like lows in the sense they make people duck. Take Mishima jabs. You are going to have a bad time if you block those all day. If you duck you can punish them, but you could also get baited and eat a mid.
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>>227970376
>be west coast
>the land's on fire as usual
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give me Lili customization ideas!
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Who's the worse dad Heihachi or Kazuya?
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>>227978625
Kaz
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>>227978625
Heihachi has good reason to fear his child. Kazuya just dumped Jin
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>>227978148
Find them yourself!
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>>227976634
Please respond, I’ve been at this for an hour
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>>227978625
Heihachi. At least Kaz hasn't thrown Jin of off any high places. Yet.
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>>227978835
I'm trying!
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I have never played tekken and my only fighting game experience is SF and marvel

how bad of a time would I have if I tried to learn tekken and played kuma? the idea of playing as a bear is something that would make me laugh for a long time. but is he hard for a beginner? the stance stuff kind of intimidates me... and he seems like the type of character who everyone would have a "only works on kuma combo"
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>>227978835
:D
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>fighting a Steve in orange ranks
>he is literally just mashing nonstop
>there isnt a single fucking time he isnt trying to attack or downjab or dodge or something
>knows all the combos, even does the machine gun ender
>loses to me 6 times in a row simply because he kept eating counter hits to the face

Alright Steve mains, justify it
Justify why every single one of you play the character like hes in a high speed anime fight scene
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feels good, almost gave up in the promo game, 2-0 by a 19win vanquisher bryan, who seemed to have me figured out from first 5secs, did a miracle come back, surprised myself.
like comment and subscribe tnx
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>>227979003
welcome to the new yellow ranks
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>>227979095

yup, I just wanted to be out of s2 green
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>>227978975
Nobody except top level Koreans dedicate enough time to remembering bear-specific combos. If anything you'll see more people dropping combos on you.
My advice: play a real character
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>>227978886
Tekken 8 will start off with this and we all know it.
Whole story this time will be a flashback retelling of what lead Jin up to that point of being thrown of a snowy cliff
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>>227978148
give up T7 customization is trash. If you're having trouble coming up with anything good chances are you have already exhausted all the good options.
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>>227979002
cuz it feels good man
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>>227979202
who would you recommend if I like dumb risk-reward gambles and big plus-on-block buttons that lead into mixups if they connect
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>>227979002
Orange is the new greens, if you were green on s1 and you are still not on orange then L M A O at you
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>hurrr nobody even played Lei
Meanwhile online is overflowing with Lei. Hmmm.
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rbnorway says Maven's neutral 4 is on a mere 12 frame startup.
How come Lei's hopkick launcher beats it at the start of the round? Is it faster, is the framedata on rbnorway wrong, or am I missing something else?
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>>227978148
You could copy uui and make the bride from kill bill. The summer lesson hair can help with it
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>>227979405
Kazuya
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>>227979485
almost like it's because he has a safe on block mid launcher that puts him into one of his best stances on block/whiff
and a bunch of other shit that they can abuse like laydown since no one new to tekken knows how to deal with it
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>>227979003
now do it with a real character
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>>227978625
Say what you want about Heihachi's parenting skills, at least he wasn't a deadbeat.
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>>227979505
That doesn't sound like Kazuya at all.
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>>227979719
Who cares what new players can or can't deal with? They can't even break universal grabs.
If they were really power gaming, there are many better choices.
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>>227979816
He's dead and beat now lmao
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>>227978625
Heihachi, Kazuya has the excuse of being literally possesed by a devil and having his good side killed. Heihachi is inherently evil
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>>227979296
>>227979491
I mean, I got Kula, Morrigan, The Bride and some random cute random fashion looks, but yeah, I'm pretty much out of ideas already.
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>>227979405
Noctis
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>>227979882
Who cares just shut the fuck up and spam constant hellsweeps with him like a real Tekken player faggot
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>>227979405
Asuka or Lucky Chloe
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>>227979405
King
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>>227976163
>bullying a Beginner with throws
shame on you
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Heihachi:
>imprisons his father and takes over the zaibatsu
>kills his wife instead of trying to get her help despite noticing the signs before she fully turned
>throws his son off a cliff without explaining anything to him
>throws his son off a cliff again
>shoots his grandson

Kazuya:
>did literally nothing wrong given the circumstances
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>>227979002
It's fun. Nothing beats the feeling of dodging an attack, or matrixducking a high and hitting back.
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>>227979490
Lei hopkick is bullshit, not only crushes some highs but it can even go over some mids
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>>227980396
Wouldn't expect a wimp like you to understand
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>>227978625
Heihachi I guess? If he doesn't like you he goes to an extreme to treat you like shit, but if he likes you he treats you nicely enough. Heihachi and Jin actually got along really well until Jin's devil gene surfaced.

Whereas Kazuya seemingly just hates everyone.
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>>227970376

South Louisiana fag here. You'll be fine. Expect meme deprivation for a week though.
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>>227979490
you can't buffer inputs at the beginning of a round. So you need to input on the first frame of the round starting for it to actually be 12 frames, chances are you did it like 10 or so frames into the round.
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>>227980429
Fuck...
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how can ANYONE compete with Lili?
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>>227980396
>kills father and takes zaibatsu
>experiments on animals and kills some rich people including hues in Brazil
>”dies” lol
>gets brought back
>meets son
>hey kid I want your debil jeans lmao
I dunno man. He could have tried to say “nice to meet you son”
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>>227980750
Potato face
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>>227980396
sorry sweaty but Kazuya is RACIST and that's gonna be a big yikes from me!
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>>227980396
Jin:
>Destroys world so he can stop his devil gene unironically
>Fails horribly and worlds is still in chaos
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>>227980881
Jin being such a fuck up is the result of Kazuya's and Heihachi's failures to be fair.
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>>227980842
This. Can't wait for the "nigger lol" T8 outro, it's gonna be sick
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>>227980575
And now you're gone, old man.

>>227980751
>kills father and takes zaibatsu
he started it
>experiments on animals and kills some rich people including hues in Brazil
For the sake of science, it was a good thing. Who cares about Brazil anyway.
>hey kid I want your debil jeans lmao
You got it all wrong buddy. Those are KAZUYA'S debil jeans that were STOLEN. Plus if Jin died there wouldn't be a world war. Kazuya was doing the right thing, he knew Jin would turn out to be a massive fuck up.
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>>227980842
>but Kazuya is RACIST
Kazuya only likes around three of the people in the entire playable cast and one of those people is a black dude though.
>Just as Bruce's fortunes seemed to have changed, his life took a drastic change of course when he entered a Muay Thai tournament in Thailand. A bookmaker, keen to turn a profit, offered Bruce a sum of money to rig a fight and lose. When his turn came to fight, Bruce's pride would not allow him to lose, and he ended up beating his opponent to death. Enraged by the loss of revenue, the bookmaker hired a killer to take Bruce's life, while the police sought Bruce for murder. Forced to flee, Bruce took a plane out of the country, only to find that a detective and his hired killer were also on the plane. A fight soon escalated, resulting in the crashing of the plane. Whereas the detective and killer were killed, Bruce survived, albeit with amnesia. Wandering alone in a foreign wilderness, Bruce was found by the forces of Kazuya Mishima. Kazuya, seeing the potential of Bruce, hired him as a mercenary, and the two grew to be friends. When Kazuya arranged the second King of Iron Fist Tournament, Bruce entered, keen to test his abilities, but was ultimately defeated by Lei Wulong, a police officer from Hong Kong and partner of the detective killed in the plane crash. After the tournaments conclusion, and Kazuya's apparent death at the hands of his father Heihachi, Bruce left Kazuya's militia and eventually ended up at a survival school.
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>>227980881
Oh yeah. Man, Tekken 6's plot was horrible but I still find it hilarious how the writers basically made Jin a retard.
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>>227976356
>>227976603
>>227980152
such is life in player match. don't worry i've certainly eaten my fair share of shit from 5k win genbu geese players before too
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>>227981176
>he knew Jin would turn out to be a massive fuck up.
That's because it was literally his fault
and then he didn't even do anything to prevent shit aside from getting beat up by Jin Cena (multiple times even)
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>>227981368
They've fought literally once retard.
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>>227981176
>>227981368
reminder that Jin originally was a good boi and a pretty nice dude but Kazuya fucked up his life and made him turn into an edgelord
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>>227981510
T4, T5, T6 was a clusterfuck so maybe I'm wrong about that. He got the Zaibatsu at the end of 5 by literally just stroling to Honmaru and beating the shit out of Kazuya and Jinpachi by himself. Jin's role most of the time is literally to just show up out of nowhere and beat everyone up.
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>>227981368
>kid doped up on kazama memes, debil jeans and mashima cells beats up an honest man with only 1 and a half overpowered bloodlines
it was onesided, the fact Kazuya survived is a miracle
Jin needs to be put down, he's too dangerous
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Reminder that Kazuya has a flat ass wife lmao
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>Kazuya
The Mishima who did nothing wrong

>Heihachi
The Mishima who did some things wrong

>Jin
The Mishima who did literally everything wrong
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>>227981728
>He got the Zaibatsu at the end of 5 by literally just stroling to Honmaru and beating the shit out of Kazuya and Jinpachi

The best way to take over a company. I bet there would be less incentive for hostile takeovers if it meant a fistfight where the winner gets the spoils.
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>>227969485
>>227970376
>>227978076
Be safe friends
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>>227981798
Lies
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>>227981728
Jin and Kazuya never fought in T5, 6 or 7.
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>ACTUALLY caring about Harada's napkin scribbles
lmaoooing at your life
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wheres my aggressively sexual school girl
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>>227981728
I think he just beat Jinpachi, I don't know what the hell Kaz was doing during that game but he never ran into Jin during it. Between True Ogre, Jinpachi and later Azazel yeah Jin does have retard strength though.
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>>227982095
You’re a napkin scribble. I wouldn’t even compliment you if you looked nice
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>you can see nina's pantsu when she steps on someone with the summer lesson outfit


nice
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>>227982242
dress up anna in a school girl outfit
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fastest(easiest) wall splat move you can fit into bryans taunt?

I can do 10-13frame stuff like 95% of the time, only really want to use taunt to scare opponents near the wall.
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>>227982242
>ywnb bullied by 3D Asuka
why live bros
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>>227982462
b4 is the easiest you get
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>P- POAAAAH
>YALLA
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>>227980750
By never playing her so I can say she's cheap.
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>>227982518

damn thats 14frames isn't it? don't think I can reliably do that online, probs just stick to jabs for the guaranteed dmg then.
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>>227982794
Where do you guys think Miguel is on the tier list now?
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>>227982852
Speedkicks thinks he is S tier level of busted
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>>227983324
If you don't have a punisher for SAV df2 just forget about it.
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lol
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>>227983324
>Speedkicks thinks
Lmaooooooooooooo
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Damn man, Bruv is such a cool dude. I really hope all the best for him.
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>>227983564
LMAO
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>Knee's twitter is just him reblogging cute cat pictures and stuff
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>>227983324
when was the last time speedkicks won a major, again? im sorry i can't quite remember.
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>>227983564
based
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>>227983564
GOD

DAMN IT

ANON
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>>227983806
based
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
HOW THE FUCK DO I KEEP MANAGING TO DO FRAME PERFECT b f 2
THIS SHITTY MOVE DOESN'T WORK IF THERES NO NEUTRAL BETWEEN THE BACK AND THE FORWARD
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT
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>>227983564
I’m protesting G corp
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back in my day a few weeks ago rank meant something..
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>>227984353
Buffer the b into whatever move you're doing before it to give yourself more of a window.
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>>227984651
I just got Warrior with Steve. Am I good yet?
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>>227984651
It still does, people just like to meme because sour grapes.
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>>227982242
>>227982382
>>227982490
Where is the Sukebans Harada? You fucking hack
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>>227984763
Yeah, thankfully i can just press back before i have recovered and the forward after and it works, but it still feels so bad to gimp my speed because this move shown as b, f, 2 actually is b, n, f, 2
They should fix this shit at the very least in the move list because as far as i know it's not intended
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>>227940120
>>227940320
>>227940530
>>227941473
>>227983564
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>>227983564
quality shitpost kazuyer
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrlSz-Xxo50

Macho Man for Tekken
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>>227933126
+sephi +phantom +eyemusician +ritual +sodam +jimmy +pepperbeef
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>>227932821
Eyemusician
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>>227985389
better than the Lili guy for sure
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>>227940695
But bob is a mishima
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Yup, Miguel is in my alt+f4 list now.
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>>227940530
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OUR DREAMBOAT IS ON A PROMO GET IN HERE BROOOOOOOOOOOS

https://www.twitch.tv/sephiblack
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How long till we get to the pools with people worth watching?
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How badly did they nerf Feng?
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>>227986610
Stop shilling your shit stream faggot
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>>227986770
look at this guy bros lmaooo
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>>227952112
I don't ever do it unless I'm fucking around. Her normal combos in this game give good enough wall carry so unless you're fighting at pro level it's not very necessary.
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>>227986806
I'm being ironic so it makes it funny.
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>>227986610
he got it
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>>227978148
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>>227984849
welcome to new greens!
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>Neither Season Pass is on sale
>especially season 1
Should i still double dip and get the PC version?
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What is flowcharting?
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Anyone want to play with me? Every single guy kicks me out ;\
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>>227987092
what if i got to warrior before S2?
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pokchop on stream, dis gon b gud
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OUR GUY POKCHOP ON IN SCR
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>>227981798
Reminder that Kazuya has a hot ass mom lmao
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>>227987167
yeah
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>>227987395
>>227987394
NO ROUND
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we're gay here bros
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>>227987395
what stream
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>>227987461
His mom was Heihachi's flat ass wife though
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>>227987676
>literally just 2 dudes in each other's face spamming moves

surely i can't be the only one that judges everyone based on their movement? wtf is this garbage? i guess they weren't lying when they said americans always just rush in and mash 50/50's.

>>227987914
it's literally the top tekken stream right now fucking retard, you missed it
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FINALLY LEI LETS GOOOOOO
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>>227987935
Makes me want to see Lars Mom now for comparison heh.
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>>227987935
she's not my flat ass wife and that's the real problem
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I haven't really been keeping up-to-date on the game and have just been sitting on a pocket Leo for when I play with friends or at locals.

I kinda wanna learn a new character though. Is Noctis any good? It seems like nobody uses him; I don't even recall seeing him on tournament streams since he came out.
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>>227987935
>>227987461
if only Jin had a flat ass asian girl he could get with too right
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>>227988021
Damn i didn't know there was an event today, why did no one warn me?
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>>227987935
she does have an ass despite being petite unlike jun who has nothing
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>>227988285
He is too honest, i like playing him into 2D and Asuka though, fuck chicken and fireballs
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>>227988285
>I don't even recall seeing him on tournament streams since he came out.
It's because he's one of the worst characters in the game and an unlikable faggot. There's no reason to play him.
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>>227988573
>t. Excited for Negan
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>>227966601
Don't bother with it
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>>227988752
Not really. I don't give a shit about any of the guest characters. All of them have more or less sucked so far.
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okay fuck it: if i want to SPECIFICALLY FUCKING COUNTER asuka and jin, who do i pick? sick of this fucking shit. no DLC characters.
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>>227988861
Geese is better than all the actual Tekken characters
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>>227988910
ur mom lmao LOOOOOOL
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So i got a korean lever and I really like it so far, but i have one issue. I ordered a 35 tension grommet to replace the default 25, but one thing I noticed is that it feels "uneven" in one direction. Like I have to push harder to get the switch to activate, and it even feels like it's grinding (and makes a noise) when pushed in that direction. The other directions feel fine. Is this normal or is this grommet just fucked up?
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>>227988910

I'm not an expert, but maybe a character that uses elbows/kicks instead of jabs for their offense?

Doesn't that shit go through counter moves?
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>>227988304
Maybe Jin will let go of the gay after losing devil Jin
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>Got to Vanquisher (Season 1 lmao) with Gigas using following strategy:

>Mash jabs, if they respect them by blocking go for lows and charge b2>Goliath 50/50 mixups

>If they don't respect them keep mashing but throw in df3,1+2 (i13 CH mid launcher)
>Pepper in the occasional command throw
>uf3 (hop knee ch launcher) if you read a dick jab
-If they are playing defensive mid screen go for running 2 (+7-8 on block) and follow up with either a low, quick mid, or charge b2>Goliath 50/50

Is this legit Tekken or am I a fraud who relies on gimmicks and won't win against good players
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>>227988910
Hwoarang
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JDCR PLAYING HEIHACHI

LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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JDCR HEIHACHI ON STREAM RN
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>>227989253
>>227989259
HASHI
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>>227989218
Also
>if I read they will press buttons to preemptively stop the running 2, I will fake a running 2 and go for d+2 to whiff punish their button
>And if they party too hard close to me I'll usually dick jab and go for a mixup or more jab pressure
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>JDCR hasnt labbed his wall bounce combos
bros?
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>>227989218
>>227989363
You can't know until you go against good players, Only thing you can do is try to get other characters with different playstyles to the same rank
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I'm more hype that our boy Ghodere is playing
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this shaheen player actually seems to be pretty good, dropped some combos but i'd chock that up to nerves i bet. i mean it's JDCR ffs, you can tell he's nervous but his movement and execution are solid. feels bad to watch him get smashed while using my main but JDCR playing heihachi so i can't complain.
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>>227989616
He posts here sometimes
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I've noticed that in tournaments weaker players will more often than not go for the low if it kills when going against a stronger player. They don't trust themselves to close it out if their mid gets blocked so they try to close it out right there.
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FUCK Kazuya and FUCK devil people.
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Wish we got Zafina instead of Lei
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>>227989701
which one is he, ghodere? they just put up the team they don't put up who specifically is playing. cool though, either way, maybe he can post some S2 shaheen advice if he sees this.
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how is it a 2v2
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>>227989583
>>227989616
>t. Ghodere
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I like MYK but I don't like how he screams all the time. I have to mute when anything exciting happens. please relay this message
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>>227989831
relay my ass daddy
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>>227988321
scr isn't for like 2 hours
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>>227986201
lmao literally just backdash once and he can't reach you
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>>227989934
Its already started, just because its team matches doesnt mean it isnt part of the event
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>>227989815
teams of 2 pokemon style
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>>227989420
He said himself he doesn't play much nowadays. He finds online meaningless and arcades aren't doing too good in Korea. He also doesn't want to reveal his tech to his close friends.
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>>227989710
There is definitely some patterns that emerge when players have this idea that the other guy is better/worse than them.
If you can identify what the other guy thinks of your skills then you can use that to your advantage.
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>>227989142
Not Jin's.
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>>227989884
milk me mommy
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Who else made it to the Philippines? I know Yuyu did because use she's desperate for a top 8.
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someone take a snap of that woman's ass on stage?
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>>227990038
i don't care what it is i just want to see some good ass S2 tekken. also still don't know who to pick up as a 2nd character because no one will tell me who is good against jin and asuka, but haven't really seen anyone playing those characters thus far weirdly
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What is the point of male characters? Just give me cute/hot/sexy girls to play. Not an incel btw.
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jdcr and pokchop back to back? man this is pretty good for a challenger event
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>>227989142
nah characters like jin and geese are special and don't have to worry about shit in that regard.
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>>227990264
>Asuka
King
Noctis

>Jin
Lili
Eliza
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lol fantasy strike has a booth over there
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>>227990285
Wait for tekken heroines. Rule 63 Kaz and Jin will sate you
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>>227990126
>Crybaby Ki charge Yuyu
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What's my main method of doing damage with Josie? I've just picked this character up and while she seems really well rounded, I don't seem to be doing much damage?
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>>227990632
did you mean Alisa? i assume you're picking the girls of good sidesteps?

how is Lili against Asuka? if she's got a strat that's good against both i'll consider it.
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>>227990650
Release date never...
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>>227990632
>King
Why?
>Noctis
Only against parry spamming Asuka. If you play him straight up it's a pretty even matchup.
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any fellow flips still gonna attend the revmajor? wanted to go but i can't because of the fucking typhoon.
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>>227990457
>Play Jin
>Parry a jab
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aw yeah, finally did it
technically my first Genbu, but it's season 2 so whatever
Claudio is dope
i forgot to ki-charge on this dude lmaooo

now that that's done gonna watch this tournament
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>>227990886
You should've specified what kind of Asuka. The fundies based kind that never parries would actually be Jin and Bryan. Lots of fast pressure with good counter hits.
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>>227990845
>how is Lili against Asuka?
Feels even to me. Lili's BT shit can be annoying, but that's how I feel regardless of what character I play.
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>>227990737
CH launchs, your oribtal, some strings and her SWs mixups
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do the dumbass looking for a jin counterpick
have you considered steve? if jin isn't using a t-rex arm move he's slow as fuck and counterhit bait
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>Jin and Asuka top tier
Real Kazama hours.
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>>227990868
Don’t worry anon. When your around 54 and BandaiNamcoSNK decides to get some easy money. It will release by then
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>>227990737
CD mixups. The low does pretty meaty damage and gives more on CH.
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>>227991132
so is Lili the closest I'm going to come to a Jin and Asuka counterpick? it's just that I see a lot of them in ranked and I loathe them and desperately want to shit on them. Shaheen isn't great for that unfortunately.
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why are feng players such pussies? they ALWAYS lose/winquit and plug every demotion/promotion. epithet of tryharders
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>>227990886
King's df1 and his hopkick can't be parried by Asuka
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Jesus Christ, Kaz players abuse the shit out of df/1 now.
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>>227990737
You have to get counter hits and crumple stuns with her so use Switch stance 1 and 3 a lot when you go into switch. If they start blocking then start mixing up with Crouch Dash 2 and 3. This is her basic game plan.
>Good counter hit moves to abuse
Magic 4
3+4 is a tracking move
f,f+4
Switch 1
Switch 3

Stick to using these moves a lot. When they are at the wall on their wakeup, use her butterfly edge either u or ub version. When they have their back to the wall try to do her f,f3+4 throw for wall splat.
Just keep at it Josie friend. Playing Josie is so good because she gets most of her launchers off counter hits so she exposes mashers.
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>king players can't break grabs
>meanwhile JDCR literally can't be grabbed

get fucked furries lmao
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>>227991085
lol red is the new yellows lol
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>>227991287
Watch how Knee uses Lili, not just in tourneys but in his streams. Sidestep and poke, really effective.
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If you dont love nina you deserve to die
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>>227991561
He's an Armor King player
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>>227991085
>demoted a paulfag at the same time

based, also congrats. i really need to play ranked again instead of hiding in practice mode all the time, ranked nerves suck.
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>>227991561
He still lost to Majin though
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>>227991726
It was S1.
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>>227991630
would you say Lili compliments Shaheen well? i'd like a sub character that can shore up my weak matchups like Jin and Asuka. any good guides?
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See again same player that has 100 less wins then last time. He still quits after 1 loss. So thats why ranked is empty even at oranges, these losers went to reset their wins.
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>>227991634
nina is a unga character for apes and incels
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>>227991726
Lol are you talking about S1 shit? That was AGES ago. We're playing a different game now.
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saint and JDCR shouldn't even be on a team they should just be single players vs. teams. saint literally isn't even going to get to play once at this point.
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>>227991776
>>227991945
buffed king vs buffed heihachi who would win
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>>227991996
JDCR almost lost to some no name Lei player already
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>>227991996
Saint has already played you mong.
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>>227991776
>>227991945
Doesn't matter and JDCR is a gay furry as well, so get fucked
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>>227991458
>Muh parries
While it can be annoying, I feel like too many people focus solely on the parry and not anything else. She has a ton of CH and keepout tools and those are the real backbone of kit. However, while these moves are very good, a lost of them are a bit slower in frames, usually i16-i21. So if you use a character with a lot of faster moves, then you should have a better time against her.
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>>227991557
Also, here is the Season 2 pasta from Josie friend

NEW
1+2 out of CD. It jumps over lows, is an elbow and it launches on CH.
NEW
b,1,2,3,f and can do CD out of it
BackSway counts as crouch state
BackSway 1 is now safe
WS2 is now safe
SWS 1 damage increased
SWS 3 is now -12 and pushes the opponent back
3+4 now launches on CH so she basically has a tracking magic 4
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>>227992096
LMFAO this dude cares about season 1 shit...get with the time gramps.
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>>227981856
this but unironically
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>>227991841
I didn't use any guides, I just looked at a combo video and copied high level koreans, sorry.
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>>227992162
that's the issue, whiff punishing turtles + 50/50's is my kryptonite atm. then you always have to be worried about reversals when you try to take your turn ever.
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>>227991726
Majin's play resolved almost entirely on df2,1 and ff,n,1+2. I think only 1 grab did landed and did real damage to JDCR.
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>this shaheen player using 4,3 all the time instead of 4,1

is this the new tech since the 4,1 nerf? also surprisingly to see multiple shaheen players in S2 thus far, makes me happy he's not dead.
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>>227992327
imagine being this late
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>>227992325
I know. I am just fucking with the anti-King fags
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>>227992327
>Rage Art is going to be the Glen kill
Based
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>>227992563
>they release him last

HARADAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>227992515
yeah hehehe. i thought we're making S1 jokes so i posted one :^)
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>>227992563
delete this
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>>227992563
I really hope he has a special one for Whoreang
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>shaheen vs. runitblack's jin

time to watch shaheen lose or learn some new super secret tech. probably a lot of SSR i'd imagine
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>>227986713
absolutely not at all

the only thing he lost is delaying your 1,1 string for CH fishing, which was honestly pretty overpowered looking back

you get ff2 ch launcher for 85+dmg combo now, df22 being safe on block wallbounce fishing tool, and 241 giving guaranteed shoulder on the last hit CH (making it need to be respected ALOT more = your backturn mixups are alot scarier)

I personally havent noticed the frame reduction in backturn kempo block frames, never use it like that anyway, if you fuck up a back kempo you deserve the punishment

he feels really good
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>>227991085

nice, do you get alot of use out of that SS low? its pretty slow and launch punishable, seemed abit too low risk when I was trying claudio

also do you think the new low-high string is decent? db4-3

and at your level do people reliably block starburst lows?

interested in giving claudio a go, seems alot more versatile in s2
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>>227988507
she doooo





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