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Thanks, Kong edition

Mechwarrior 5 Mercenaries:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8qcznZu0rE [Embed]

Armored Core:
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Battletech:
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https://old.reddit.com/r/BattleTechMods/
http://www.rpgcodex.net/content.php?id=10930

Dual Gear:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/443000/DUAL_GEAR/

Into the Breach:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/590380
https://intothebreach.gamepedia.com/Into_The_Breach_Wiki

M.A.V. (Now with more Chromehound legal rights!)
http://bombdogstudios.com/blog/

Mechwarrior Living Legends (Now regularly updated):
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http://www.mechlivinglegends.net/

Living Legends Server Stats (Use this to check if anyone is playing):
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Vox Machinae:
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MechWarrior Online:
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How to start MWO:
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Dispensing propane and propane accessories:
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Charging into your life:
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All the MWO Models:
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Please stop making these threads. Thank you in advance.
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It's quiet, too quiet. Who else still needs their headshot?
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>>230405742
I queued an empty division of Solaris with a friend and we just headshot each other.
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I'm not gonna lie I used to play with arm lock but spectating I saw someone play unlocked, decided to gave it a try and bound the toggle to some random key I press at match start and holy shit, it's like an epiphany.
I feel like I've been playing WoW forever, always keyboard turning, and suddenly discovered mouse turning.
Although I've only been at MWO for 2 weeks
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>>230406517
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>>230406246
That's probably what I'll end up doing later today.
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>another 404
>another dead thread
it's time to stop
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>>230406517

Yep. Welcome to the first step out of babby mode and into being a regular pilot.

Next, learn to manage heat well enough to keep override on and pushing the redline without mindlessly melting your innards.
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>>230409330
Arm lock still has it's use for convergence, so you should have it on "hold to activate" on a button that's easy to reach in combat, like the left Shift. You'll see this exact behavior if you spectate good players.
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>>230406517
Congrats.
I have no idea why arm lock is enabled by default for new players. I don't see any benefit from limiting your weapon's range of motion 100% of the time.
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Just started playing last week, got a bushwacker to start with.

I've got a pile of cbills. What's a good heavy to try?
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I don't think I've ever seen anyone run small lasers, only the ER variants. What kind of mech would you put regular small lasers on?
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The amount of niggers running over 30 back armor has gone up fucking drastically, holy shit.
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>>230414859
No, the amount of competent players has dropped drastically because people are quitting.
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>>230414343
Do you want the meta answer or my personal answer?

Meta is Hellbringer or Ebon Jag, laservomit.

Personally, I love the Grasshopper with 2 hppc and a bunch of lasers
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>>230414478
Any light that can't fit something better I'd say, although I run pulses.
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>>230411489
what doesn't make sense is that with armlock rotating your torso is much slower
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>>230419398
it doesn't
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>>230420073
you need to move your mouse a bigger distance to turn the same amount
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I hate how easily the hgauss explodes, as soon as my armor is gone it explodes at the first hit
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>>230422920
wrong
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>>230418545
I will second this on both counts. Hellbringer and Ebon Jag are great mechs but they're also very meta. Grasshopper as a HPPCer or a ERLL sniper is fun as hell. I'll add in that I also like the Warhammer with 2 ac10s and some ERMLs.
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tfw finally done with all the challenges
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>>230423508
not wrong, do a quick move with your mouse
with arm lock you have rotated like 10 degrees, without armlock you are facing nearly all the way to your side
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>>230426594
brainlet
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>get on urbie
>center screen
>lock arms
>do a 360
>measure how many inches it took to do the 360
>unlock arm
>repeat
>compare results

Stop relying on muh feelings and start getting facts retards
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>>230428821
or just bind torso twist to a button and time how long it takes to reach the end of your arc in any mech that isn't the urbie

pro-tip: it's the exact same
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>that LRM assault boomer who shits on the lights for not capping in conquest mode
>our team had no lights and all mediums were dead
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i still can't get 1 headshot
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>kong r63 dating sim never
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>buy Timber Wolf and Ebon Jaguar last sale
>exclusively play the Timber Wolf even though everyone says the Ebon Jaguar is better
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>>230437246
hipster
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I wanna play mechwarrior, which game do I start with? 2?
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>>230438121
mechcommander 1
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>>230438121
3. It will make you hate the Clanner and their subhuman ilk.
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>>230438121
Battletech: Crescent Hawk's Inception
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>>230438193
eh maybe after I get through the warrior games
>>230438250
but I love clams, is 2 really worth skipping?
>>230438314
a bit too dated
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>>230438465
Mechwarrior 3 and Mechcommander 1 take place at the same time, fighting the clans during the invasion and kicking their teeth in for attacking the Inner Sphere.
>love clams
You're a gigantic faggot.
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We bigmans now
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>>230441496

more like FATchet, look at how rotund that chest is
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>>230431820
if I do a quick movement with locked arms I barely end turning and with unlocked arms I end up turning like 45 degrees
it's as if unlocked arms had mouse acceleration enabled, if I move the mouse slowly they rotate about the same
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Best weapon set for farming her? It's the only one I still need, and hard to get with RACs, UACs or lasers.
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Old kong meme posting?
Non-konglet here, is it worth replaying with you fags again? Will you finally get rid of the ancient boomer mumble and getdiscord?
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>>230438616
>freebirth posting
Is there any lower form of life in this galaxy than the freeborn?
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>playing slow ass fafnir hgoose
>enemy pushing
>hide on the side
>march with them
>shoot them in the back
kek, they took a while to notice since I avoided using my lasers so they wouldn't see I was firing at them and not the "enemy"
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>>230454706
The sad part is I can see that working.
Earlier I watched a team mate Marauder ignore two enemies that were close to him that each had ECM. He looked at the and just, ignored them.
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>>230414343

If you want something that focuses on being tough like the Bushie but remains Inner Sphere, the Roughnecks aren't bad.
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>>230457691
There's one with a UAC jam chance reduction that actually does a lot of damage really fast
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>>230453529
We do have a discord. Multiple actually. It's just a second secret layer/lair.
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>>230457691
Alright, I'll check it out thanks
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I just bought a Stalker-5N, put 4 ERLLs and 2 LRM15s + TAG on it. I gotta say, I didn't think I'd be having a whole lot fun with it since I just bought it for the tag assist challenge.
I think I might try going for 6 ERLLs once I finish up that challenge though, I've never played a long range assault before. For those of you who run Stalkers, what kind of builds are you running on it?
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>>230459709
Stalker is great.

Try Mrm 80 and 4ml.
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>>230452989
TRUMP the mech
does it mean you win?
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Guys I just beat the first Armored Core and I'm trying to play Project Phantasma but the duels are absolutely annihilating me. Any tips for taking on fast opponents? I look up a guide and it's like "this is where the game stops holding your hand but it should be pretty easy still if you know how to boost." I know how to boost, but I'm being stunlocked so I can't, while being circlestrafed perfectly. In legs that aren't particularly unstable.

The best I can do aimwise is almost barely kind of keep track of an opponent horizontally but even that is silly with how fast they are. I don't know what to do or how to improve, my guns already cast a tall shadow over the enemy weapons, so it's just me sucking here.
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r8
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pump
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any improvements left here?
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Has anyone here played Gundam games? Seems like Gundam's spawned a million games, but I don't know which if any will scratch my robot *customization* itch. Do any have a decent degree of that?
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>>230471249
Kill BAP
Max out that CT, the extra point is more important there than in an arm
Switch those micros to SLs or SPLs
normally you don't need more than 30~40 seconds of full throttle DPS so decide on SL vs SPL based on that
or, consider the MGun pods
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what is the best build for arctic cheetah?
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Best mech to double HGR for headshot attempts? I only have one that can run it for sure, and another that might be able to, but I'm not sure that either are among the better choices.
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>>230475692
faf
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>>230453529
nevr forgetti
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>>230473862
the only KONG approved urbanmech
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finally got that damn headshot, but wow what a hassle. only actually managed it on another annihilator, too.
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If I wanted to build something designed specifically to shit on PIR's and other machine gun backstabbers, what would it look like? pref nothing like hgauss which requires aim.
Streaks seem like the obvious answer but after using them a few times on a cobbled together ASN they still feel weak even against a 20 tonner.
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>>230480291
mad dog with 6xstreak6
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some people are so gutsy as to strip their back armor into just 4 for each torso, or so.

I'm not so confident because sometimes, in repositioning, I have my back turned to the enemy. oh and fuck those machine gun lights
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>>230482182
all good players run less than 5 back because when you're good you don't get shot in the back by enemies, only by teammates on accident
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>>230472094
Probably 2 mpl and memeguns for brawling
Or 6 erml backstabber
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Please stop making these threads. Thank you in advance.
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>tfw have 18mill C-Bills
>tfw not sure what to buy
Is the Kodiak a good Clan Assault mech? I already have an IS Assault and it's an Annihilator
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>>230489491
MadCat MkII-B is good, 2xUAC10/2xUAC-5 does good work
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>>230490147
Is the Kodiak not good?
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>>230491738
It can work, but it's suboptimal compared to Madcat MkII, Warhawk Prime, or Blood Asp.
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No one fucking remembers Steel Battalion. The firsts was great, and the second could've been a classic if it wasn't on the FUCKING KINECT
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>>230495484
>kinect
no wonder it was killed
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>>230492259
Did they reveal the C-Bill Release of the Blood Asp?
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>>230496747
Still angry about that shit Capcom, bring it back please.
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>>230480291
Wolfhound takes every light to Poundtown and has tge added bonus of being good against everything, the only drawback being that you actually have to aim
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>>230497085
C-Bill Release Date: November 6th 2018
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>>230491738
It used to be the premier Clan assault, but IS boomers got mad that their shitbrew fatlases couldn't stand up to our big teddy bear and the piggy in its infinite wisdom nerfed it so hard it never really came back in the general population.
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>>230498962
Why is the wolfhound so good?
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>>230500234
Its got the speed of a 35 tonner, the firepower of a 50 tonner and the (effective) durability of a 65 tonner

And ecm, if you want to feed the pig. Just don't get double heavy gaussed in the shoulder
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Of all the Warhammers to get in MWO, is the 6R the best one because of how customizable it is?
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Does anyone play Titanfall 2 anymore?
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>>230503332
People here play the only good living game left, MWO.
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>tfw had a dream last night about trying to get a headshot on an AFK King Crab using a light with a bunch of different lasers on it
>some Locust found out I was there and started attacking me
>barely manage to get the headshot kill before the Locust rapes my ass

I'm not gonna make it, bros...
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Is the Marauder IIC a good Clan Assault?
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>>230506170
Yes. The all energy is very good. The missile is alright. Dakka is good
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>>230506830
Would this be an efficient build?
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>>230508692
With the ECM, the meta for that is 2 ERLL and 2 Gauss, but that looks a'ight. Personally I'd rather not have the 2 different lasers, drop the ERSL and drop the TC down a level or two and get more ammo.
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>>230508692
>regular clan ACs
NO
RETARD
NO
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>>230508692
Man, every now and then I'm reminded just how terrible stock builds are. That gigantic TComp and LPL + SL combo is too fucking funny.
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>>230508940
I can only take two lasers and of course, the head has the other hardpoint.
>>230508996
I'm previewing the mech, calm down autist.
>>230509294
Yeah, the TComp I feel like only helps with zooming in that's about it.
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Is there any use for a large targeting computer in any kind of build?
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>>230511593
2erppc summoner or hbkiic
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>>230507649
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>>230514874
Victor, Zeus and Black Knight?
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>>230514980
Nah, it's some sort of assault with gauss.
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>>230514980
>>230517379
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Thunder_Hawk
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I tried to go inside, but it was barren
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>>230518528
Ah, thank you.
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>C-UAC/10 generates 3.5 heat
>C-UAC/20 generates 7 heat

Why is there such a large heat spike from 10 to 20?
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>>230523379
M-muh big alphas
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>>230523379
To keep some sort of ratio between damage and heat.

Unfortunately, everything else bout the uac20 makes it garbage. Velocity, tonnage, crits, ghostheat, and ammo per ton.
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>>230524394
C-UAC/20 has high crit damage receiving?
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on1-iic-b or on1-iic-c? it's basically buying an xl 300 that comes with a free mech
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>>230524912
Nah, just the amount of crits it takes up to begin with.

Also add range to that list. Just everything about it except the damage it does is crap.
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I'm thinking the WHMIIC maul will be a good candidate for a 2x lb20x build with a high engine rating and stripped down arms.
Clans have very few mechs that can run 2x lb20x effectively due to many being to heavy and slow or having too many fixed armor slots to allow the mounting of an lbx20 in each side torso.
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>>230524394
>>230525039
The damage it does is awesome but holy fuck, the amount of heat generated is ridiculous
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>>230508692
I like this one https://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=498&l=f343bc06949f84b91e743cfa515b667054308529
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>>230422523
Golly its gorgeous
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>>230437191
Who is who?
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>>230530376
Hard to tell, at this point. A lot of those aren't even around any more. I know the redacted one was pardo.
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>>230530376
Faggots are faggots
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>>230514874
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>>230520362
And dry?
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>>230508692
>>230528704
This is what I use (not exact, from memory)
https://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=498&l=d13b38e563cf22e243a5c0a900c97bd2f3c83b16
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>>230508940
I just realized that Clan Large Lasers are 1 slot now, wow
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>>230532478
Yep! They're great. I use 2 in the CT of one of my Hunchies. 2 uac5s and 2 erll
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Any good single-player mech games?
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>>230530376
I think this was the furthest it ever got.
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>>230532825
Crescent Hawk's Inception
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>>230533746
>Haruko's isn't male
Ruined
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>>230532825
Armored Core 4 and 4A were phenomenal. Loved MW3 and 4 (all of them) but I'm sure you've already done those. Mech Commander is also good and currently freeware(?). Steel Battalion if you can find it. Metal Wolf Chaos is a huge meme but still a good meme.
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>>230535635
The idea was it was going to be VN where everyone is genderbent so you'd be a male Haruko dating r63'd kongers.
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>>230535951
Thats very silly
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1427&v=uqr_n8A_rCs

Was he in the right?
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>>230536691
Anyone who feels they need their own theme song has nothing worthwhile to say. Even more so if it's not an original song rather than effectively a filk of an existing song.
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>>230536691
who?
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>>230536691
That fag is so cringy omg
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https://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=282&l=96bcaf435edd10d1d2c3a4696372afbd6f79ccba
what would you do differently about this build?
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>>230538440
not sure why you only have 3 medium lasers in a heavy
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>>230538774
it has 6
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>>230538937
oh you think the right side of an ebin laid out like that will survive longer than 2 minutes, cute
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>>230539084
it's not my build, i copy pasted it from here
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1D6JeACWx6Bah_ZOCqgxMEmROP-fJh2dYf87RbhXh_gI/edit#gid=868162679

how would you build it differently
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>>230539084
*left
>>230539121
put a large pulse on each side
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>>230536691
basically, PGI is and always has been incredibly incompetent, not sure why you would need a half an hour video about this since everyone knows it
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>>230540184
the way I see it, I haven't really been playing this game for years, but PGI could do a lot worse. I mean a LOT worse.

They could be Telltale, or Digital Extremes.
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>>230540404
>DE
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>>230540862
yeah, I would think you see what I mean

I'm having some good fun with MWO and I haven't "fed the pig"
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>>230540971
I'm a founder and I got the masakari pack way back when, so I'm invested already, but you can still save yourself.
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>>230541340
I don't really like the masakari so i'm fine
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>>230541408
No, I mean like the entire original clan mech pack. I still have most of them but I sold some of my adders.
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>>230542582
I just bought a Timber Wolf with C-Bills last sale. honestly, I've always liked Mechwarrior, and ever since the game came out I've wanted to play, but the mech packs, for real money, are too expensive.

I liked the idea of having them, but not enough to actually spend money on them. I'm fine with just casually grinding.
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>>230542582
Original clan pack was one of the best deals, that was the most fun era to play in.
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>>230542852
T-wolf might not he as nimble as it used to, but it still packs a decent punch.
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>>230545271
I love it. It's a 90 kph heavy! It's as fast as my Enforcer
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>>230545334
I miss the days when you could move like a medium in that thing. Engine resync when?
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>>230546983
I might be building and playing my Timber Wolf wrong and sub-optimally but I just love it so much. I put skills into all speed tweaks.
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is this a good idea?
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>>230547741
No. It is not.
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>>230547741
for Battletech, maybe.
I mean why not, you could probably knock down 2 different mechs in one turn.
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>>230547741
>90 and 125 back armor
but why
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>>230549846
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>>230550532
It's an Elemental for ants!
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>>230548474
the idea is to have it jump towards the enemy while firing the ppc or lrms and then punch them to death, so if there are more enemies they might try to shoot the back

I just did a quick test in battle, it does 185 dmg and 250 dmg with dfa, plus 50 more dmg from the small lasers. Funny but not worth it, I can already do that dmg with my other crab with dual ac20 and srm. Maybe with a faster mech that can carry more small lasers and better arm mods...
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>>230431149
plasma ppcs were so fun to use in that game, didn't like the prototyoe elemental all that much though, not enough dakka.
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>>230406246
Please stop making these threads. Thank you in advance.
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What's your opinion on "tiny customizable robots piloted by kids" as a genre? And on why the fuck it's a whole genre.
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>>230530018
It's going to be completely underwhelming and you're being a dumbass for wanting that when Marauder IIC exists
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>>230561348
Literally doesn't matter, its pretty
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>>230561348
Shit taste
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>>230561693
Yeah because you're really gonna put in work with worse hitboxes and lasers supporting your SRMs instead of twin LB20s

BEGONE PIGGU
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>>230562791
You just pretending to be retarded?
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>>230561348
I just want one for LRM100 shenanagins.
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yungbear is back
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>>230561347
>tiny customizable robots
what?
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>>230566303
I think he's confusing small, multi-colored equines for big stompy robots.
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gib firemoth pig
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>>230566303
Custom Robo series, LBX series, Medabots series, 2 Gundam Build Fighters animes... It's a weird recurring thing. Fundamentally they are customizable robot games (except the animes which are not games), but for whatever reason someone decided to make them about tiny knee-height or smaller robots. Which still have guns and usually lethal force but they're for kids regardless.

So fake mimic gergs.
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>>230569146
Well what answer are you looking for here. Yes, that's strange?

Judgment? There's nothing fundamentally wrong with the concept I guess? It's not much different. If I were looking for a way to do a mech story about kids I think I'd still have them hop into 10-ft mechs though. Competitive dystopian military school, you know. I bet they do it so the robots can be cute voiced characters.
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>>230547741

Save yourself a bit of tonnage and use two LRM 15's and a single LRM 10 if you want 40 tubes. That's 7+7+5 = 19 tons vs the 20 you have there now. Also, get the goddamned bomb out of your CT, nothing like getting a single point of internal damage on the CT and turning an assault into confetti.
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I did it! I got my event headshot on an AFK assault that I beat the rest of my team to using a light mech.
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>>230572819
headshot==headshot madude
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Grinner or Piranah?
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>>230574674
Grinner for survivabliity and MPLs, Piranha for sheer speed and MGuns/ERSL/Micros
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Jules you fucking nigger link your meme finnish discord again
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>>230563562
you can 100 lrm right now
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>>230575774
Grinner is a MC only Wolfhound, right? is any other Wolfhound viable?
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>>230581074
WLF-2 with 6 MLs
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>>230574674
piranah for memes
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>>230581469
>WLF with MLs

Puke
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>>230583221
>hot opinion

cringe
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>>230583221
>he doesn't run 6ml lfe invincible megahound
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Wow! 6 MLs! So cool... /NOT/!
>chews up your legs and walks away in my zero heat sustained 16 DPS PIR-1
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>>230581074
All the wolfhounds can run MPLs, and should.
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>randomly stumble across a video with supposedly easy instructions on how to run Earthsiege 2 on a modern machine and the legacy games are free to download on the francise owners site too
>everything has 10x the problems than the guy in the video said, end up having to manually install it and I still havent gotten it to work properly because the compatibility program doesn't hook to it properly even though I copied the settings from the video
fugg
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can't flimflam the roboman
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>>230574674
which ever is more meme
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>>230604536
They're both pretty meme tbqh
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>>230606258
Yes but only one is easy mode
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>>230605192
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Lao Hu when?
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>>230588191
>>230585062
>losing STs on a mech with no hitboxes
>arm mounted weapons
>being one step away from putting ermls on the woofer

Yikes
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>>230607109
Your mom is easy mode
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Please stop making these threads. Thank you in advance.
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>>230610861
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>>230608127
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>>230610592
t.5
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>>230613420
Need moar mechs in this style
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>>230623187
My beard will shoot you!
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>>230623187
Wolverine would be a cool guy if only it didn't have that damn cramped cockpit.
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Anyone have suggestions for good headshot attempt builds that aren't double heavy gauss? I don't have anything capable of running it right now, and that headshot is the last thing I need for the final challenge. So I need something decently capable of getting a headshot to use while I save up my cbills for a dual heavy gauss capable mech.
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>>230626897
Two regular gauss will work on most mechs.

Alternatively anything with a pair of flamers and something that does about 35 pinpoint damage will let you shutdown mechs and then poop on them.
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>>230572819
I thought discos have weird head hitboxes
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>start playing AC: Last Raven
>can't sell what you have equipped
What kind of juggling do they expect me to do here, this is already a fucking retarded game
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>>230633264
They do, but you can still hit them if you have lasers to test out where they are
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>It's another "Mauler on your team has 4 LRM15s" episode
>It's another " the six assaults on your team are hiding in the back then wonder why everybody else is dead" episode
>It's another "Raven with two artillery barrages does 600+ damage with them then creams himself in allchat" episode
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I want to y1ff the_b33f!
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>>230643369
do you have a thicc beard?
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>>230641028
>It's another "All LRM SuperNova is last man standing, getting painfully slowly torn apart by the enemy" episoode
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>>230644464
No, but I have a thicc knot.
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>No news on MW5 for fucking MONTHS
>the last update on twitter and facebook was shilling for NVIDIA
>Website hasn't been updated since the Con announcement
>Last Video released was a one minute teaser

Are they fucking autistic? Do they not know to keep the fanbase informed or at least supplied with videos/pics/anything at all?
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>>230633264
It wasn't a disconnect, the guy even came back to double gauss me in the CT but didn't move for some reason, I'm guessing he was on the phone or something.
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>>230471651
For costumisation gundam games i think gundam breaker is king, havent played that though.

Is personally playing gundam battle operation 2 now, and its decent in terms of costumisation with some mobile suits having more choice with more weapons than others and parts that gives you slight boosts in speed, health etcetera. Theres also just visual costumisation with colours and emblems you can put on your suit is coming soon. However its only on ps4 and got gacha based lootcrates so thats pretty bad, new players are better of now because high end suits that used to be gacha only have been introduced to the store, so you should be able to play without worrying about it too much
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>>230646447
So you mean they're doing what pretty much everyone does when they're working on a game.
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>>230634392

you're supposed to import a save for LR
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bump
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>>230646447
Unless the game is going to come out in the next three months (protip: it's not) there's literally no reason to say or show anything or build up hype that won't last until the actual launch.

Don't expect anything until march of next year.
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>>230626897
You know you can headshot things with just lasers if you wait until they overheat
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HBKIIC, Nightstar, and Awesomes are getting some new quirk

More news at 11
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Is this a build

https://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=18&l=33a4b10d94b26c9ae0dd02f53abed85fe2cf22de
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>>230661640
run it on the D instead
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>>230646447

Of course they don't. They're probably desperately trying to actually get more work done on it, given this is PGI. Therefore, there isn't anything to see worth mentioning.

Meanwhile, HBS Battletech is having another playtime stream for Flashpoint on Thursday, 9AM PST (and they'll YouTube it after).
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Tanks are better than humanoids.
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>>230547741
You madman. What is wrong with you.

>>230570509
The beginnings of the right idea. You want at least the equal of an LRM 30 and enough ammo for 10 or 12 full salvos.

The KC is too slow for melee. Even with jump jets it is slow. One AC-20 with bonuses to accuracy and a ballistic computer (you want like total +4 at least to accuracy to make use of an AC-20) will make it so you don't miss all the time and have some punch at close range. The other arm gets an AC-5s with extra damage. Then trade off lasers, heatsinks, and jump jets to suit your encounter specific needs and tastes.
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>>230667173
not disagreeing with you, but humanoid tanks look cooler.
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In my grinner do i sacrifice a heatsink for both ecm and ams?

pic unrelated
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>>230668374
If you have ECM, why are you wanting to take AMS?
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>>230667629
Alternatively.
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>>230668374
you don't need ams if you have ecm, get something else instead
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B
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>>230664480
M
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>>230676751
M
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>>230677253
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>>230668912
Why not use actual ac20s
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>>230668912
>using ac instead of putting 2 large lasers and 2 m lasers and use the spare tons on even more heat sinks and ammo
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>>230680553
Maybe
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>>230680553
Better than IS but only because it's a Clan Battle
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>>230687807
>let's make IS mechs but with Clan tech
what were they thinking
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>>230688572
That battletech lore is kind of wack but that's what they have to work with
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>>230688572
Probably that they wanted another chassis for boomers to complain about
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Pity bump
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Same
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>>230677253
make that in mwo with melee damn it, I love the hatchetman
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>>230605192
Who makes these?
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>>230677253
*gets atomized by a beam rifle from a thousand miles away*
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>>230703304
Some talentless faggot, why?
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Why does most battletech art look like it was drawn by a god damn toddler
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>>230704029
It's surprising how it garnered such a following even before MW3. Still boggles my mind.
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>>230704029
>>230704145
And the huge legal disputes that keep cropping up over the design. It drives one insane to think about.
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>>230703962
Wanted to find all of them online to save them
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>>230706069
>"artists" handle is in every piece of shit he produces
mhmm
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>>230707226
>>230706069
wtf
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>bought an atlad
>it sucks

Not sure what I was expecting honestly
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>>230711379
should've bought the k
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>>230711379
k or ddc
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>>230426594
If you move at the rate ypur torso moves you dont. Its just easier to have it turned off. Armlock has its place tho. For mechs with weapons in the torso its more accurate to aim. Ill turn it on for aiming torso weps then off when i need to spread dmg.
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I'm about to start playing MWO for the very first time.
What should I know?
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>>230720142
LRMs are the best weapon in the game. Clan LRMs > IS LRMs. You need nothing else. They will carry you all the way to T1.
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>>230720142
You are about to make a grave mistake.
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>>230720142
Try not to be the first one to die. It's easy to overextend if you're in a faster mech.
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>>230723728
How long does it take until I'm allowed to be in a slow mech?
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>>230724121
you can do that from the start. Though if you're new Heavies and Mediums are the best to learn on. Play trials through your 25 cadet matches.
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>>230724121
That's a good point that I forgot about. Try not to pilot assaults until you're familiar with the maps and know where you should expect enemy contact.
The biggest complaint I hear in this game is "where the fuck is our assault lance going?".
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>>230725013
>"where the fuck is our assault lance going?".
Isn't it usually "nowhere fast" ?

>>230724747
>Play trials through your 25 cadet matches.
I assume thats mechs you can trial to see if you want them, yes?
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>buy double hgoose faf
>all this component destruction

This mech is a beast as long as you're not literally the only one frontlining
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>>230725424
at the start you don't own anything so you gotta play shitty trial mechs
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>>230725593

that's also the problem with it, despite having a shitload of armor fafnir players are skittish little shits who in the back of the group because MUH WIDE TORSO
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>>230726820
You don't see Urbies complaining about their giant dome.
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>>230726820
I'll frontline, alright. I'll just not be the only one exposed to a firing line, no amount of armor querks can hold up to clan alphas from 5 dudes
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>>230725717
Any further advice in terms of must-have settings changes and the like? I already know default FoV is usually shit.
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>>230728936
Toggle arm lock off
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>>230668912
that's pretty close to how I run mine. 3 medium lasers, 2 AC 5's, 2 LRM 15's. All I want out of it is to throw a bucket of ranged damage while standing firm with heavy armor. It does a fine job.
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>>230728936
many of the best players use the default fov because in most cases increasing it will only let you see more of the cockpit walls around you, while shrinking targets on your screen making it more difficult to aim

most play with arm lock off by default but you shouldn't neglect it, it's very useful for converging all of your weapons to a single point which is especially important with laser builds

you'll probably turn up gamma a bit because many of the maps are rather dark and difficult to see in, even brightly painted mechs tend to blend in with the environment because the lighting in the game is garbage

if you have performance problems then turn particles all the way down, the rest of the settings don't do much to help

for the first 25 matches you play you will earn big bucks, after that it's grind city so don't spend your c-bills carelessly
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>>230728936
>>230729527
oh and do the tutorials, those earn you a good amount of c-bills for very little effort
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>>230720142
Watch various MWO 'new player' guide videos on Youtube, with Kanajashi's probably being the latest recorded and uploaded. Understanding POV distance and other UI custom changes is a big deal.
Consider making a throwaway account and just fixing your UI the way you want and then spend up to an hour or more in the Academy with a trial mech just shooting stationary targets and understanding how heat works.
Once you have that down, practice shooting a stationary target while at a full run.
No. I am not joking. You have NO fucking idea how many players in this god forsaken game can't shoot worth a shit at a STANDING target just because their own mech is in motion. Please don't be one of those guys.

Finally, learn to torso twist in the academy against stationary targets. This won't take you long, but it's something good to practice. You face your target, shoot it dead center, then twist your mech's upper body away by 35 degrees or more so that you are presenting a side torso that you would want to be shot by the enemy while your weapons are in cooldown. Then you twist back and quickly re acquire the target to shoot it dead center with as little time lost as possible between the cooldown being ready and your shot being lined up again for a hit.

Many mechs use different weapons, have different agility profiles for twist speed, etc. Practice your specific mech for 10 minutes and then feel comfortable with fighting with it.

If you do all of this, then make your real account. Now play it with a day to kill so you get all 25 cadet bonus missions done and you can burn as much of your free 24 hours of premium time in matches as possible. You should end with about 22-24 Million Cbills if you put your nose to the grindstone.
Then keep playing and buy your first mech when PGI is running an in game sale.

You absolutely can NOT screw up by purchasing either a Huntsman, Hellbringer, Bushwacker, or Marauder 3R. They are simply superb mechs for your faction choice.
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>>230730192
good advice
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>>230729662
I only got Bills for doing the basic and the Pilot Challenge, do you have to grind the others through several rounds to get any?

Also none of my trial mechs really feature LRM or SRM so..... welp.
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>>230733447
good because LRMs and SRMs are a joke
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>>230730192
>Huntsman, Hellbringer, Bushwacker, or Marauder 3R
Huntsman (if you like missiles)
Hellbringer or Ebon Jaguar (if you like lasers)
Bushwacker (if you like ballistics)
Warhammer 6R (if you mixed builds)
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>>230734183
I like ACs and/or PPCs? LRMs are fine too, though.
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>>230734512
You can do 2x ppc on the Huntsman just fine
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>>230734512
a nova cat can do all three
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>>230735153
The Nova Cat is also excellent at getting its huge STs blown the fuck out
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>>230735153
>>230734743
I like big bois that have the tonnage to have tonsa heatsinks to carry multiple of those things.
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>retards unironically still theorizing about this shit scam 'game'

fucking uninstall yourselves from life
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Losing doesnt influence cadet bonus, right? Cause so far it's 1-6.
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>>230738912
First 25 matches have the cadet bonus regardless
but Normal earnings are affected by performance
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>>230735923
Then Nova Cat sounds pretty good for you. These are all builds that I can personally vouch for and they can all be done on the NCT-PRIME.

ERLL, fire each arm separately to avoid ghost heat, chain-fire the left arm, a bit tricky
https://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=630&l=9bf7bb828cc3affe4e4682512f48aec83de8be56

ERPPC, fire each arm separately to avoid ghost heat, straight forward big dick damage
https://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=630&l=cb81d9e1746d615e8c0afb7c2ee7176b7d20c9a9

Cookie-cutter laser vomit, just point and click, couldn't be any easier
https://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=630&l=f8d0fecd3852e2d05b20a3612f131c60f14faf1e

SRM, fire each arm separately to avoid ghost heat, gets a really nice grouping with the SRMs because they are so close together but being arm mounted you need to lead targets more than you'd think, a handy pair of ERLLs on top to get you through the early game trench warfare without falling a sleep
https://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=630&l=52931b9895d266030ef7898535103abe4c637453

ATM, fire each arm separately to avoid ghost heat, you have to be an absolute madman to use this build but it's never not funny watching assaults blow up in a few seconds when it works
https://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=630&l=d015557722ec8a726c6011cb9272a933de2bdd9d

LRM, are for gay people but if you want to you can fit 2xLRM20 & 4xLRM15 and a TAG

Dakka, I don't have much experience using ballistics in the Nova Cat because the Night Gyr does it MUCH better because arm mounted ballistics are generally a bad idea, but something like this should be decent
https://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=630&l=156b70dd09ce1ad0849bd92b5dc12ebbbdf6cc1d

Nova Cat's main weakness is its fragility and relatively slow speed, you are basically a pinata if you get focused by multiple people so try not to be the first guy through the door and try not to get left behind.
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>>230739143
Iunno, I saw a guy in a Mauler with 4 AC/2s and 2 LRM 15s with Artemis and that was fun to spectate, except for the ACs making me go fucking deaf.

I like that, except maybe bigger ACs. So super heavy Assault I guess.
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>>230739294
Generally mixing weapons of different ranges is a very bad idea because instead of being effective at multiple ranges, you just end up being mediocre at all times. But I do have these two memes that work well.

https://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=380&l=306d44bc7e63f2ba95a710a19f54cdfd1aa59280

https://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=25&l=33230e78cac03b540d0392a941ccc69e05762f7a
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>>230740019
I'm actually kinda getting the hang of playing Trebuchet for Trial right now, so mixing ranges seems to work okay for me. Finally had a pretty good game and got Hat Trick, couple Savior Kills, Tag kills, fun stuff.
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>>230734743
You know, it can run ErPPC x2 and it's fun and all, but goddamn ever since that patch that increased the cooldown on clan PPC's they just feel like crap for the wait time.
An alternative I like is the Gauss x1, Er Medium laser x5 and I pretend that I'm a Deathstrike on a diet that can actually maneuver.
When it runs hot after 2 shots it's easy enough to switch to the Gauss and 2 or 3 lasers to continue fire safely.
The downside is that pop tarting isn't as effective in comparison to the Er PPC build. The upside is that if you stand next to an assault no one gives 2 shits about your drilling out someone's torso while face staring.
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>>230740019
I did think of one of the Atlas sniper variants though, yeah. I always like the feeling of being able to tell a Light to 1v1 my rear and still outgun and outbulk him in my RT alone.
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>>230739294
spectating is a good way to check how other mech and weapons play like
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>>230742950
no it isn't, 90% of people in this game are retarded
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>>230742950
Right now I'm kinda looking at the King Crab or Atlas to be honest. Maybe AS7-D-DC or AS7-S, still tryna figure out the fine differences there as to whats better. I like the hardpoint flexibility on the S.

King Crab felt nice in the academy. Default or 000B seems neat there.
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>>230743423
don't pick the king crab, it dies easily because of the huge ct
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>>230743423
D-DC and S are only good for AC20+SRM brawling, D-DC having the benefit of ECM and S having one more SRM6

King Crab is a big no no, if you want dakka get a Mauler MX90
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>>230743423

not a big fan of the king crab desu, I keep coming back to the atlas. it's just a really great chassis. if you twist right it can take an unbelievable amount of punishment, giving you exceptional space control. I'm playing around with an hgauss 5mpl build on the kraken right now though I wish they'd give it some different hard points. all the atlas builds are pretty samey
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>>230746207
I don't mind AC/20s. Apparently though I'm pretty okay with the Trebuchet. Some guys complained about not getting 500 match score for that event that's going on for 2 more hours (I picked a shit time to start apparently) but I got it within like my first 5 games ever.
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>>230746816
Just keep in mind after the cadet bonuses your income will drop significantly so pick a mech that can do more than one thing unless you really enjoy that one thing
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>>230747036
That's usually why I like the AS7-D in Tabletop(MegaMek though. It's got good all-round coverage (except speed), enough tonnage that you can slap almost anything on it, and enough armor not to care about minor inefficiencies. Though hardpoints makes it a tad more complicated.
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>>230743423
I guess I'll be one of the few people that will champion the king crab. it is a really big, fat target. Absolutely no doubt about it.
And yet, it has an absurdly good agility profile for a 100 ton mech and can torso twist vs a same elevation incoming shot like a champ.

I run the 0000 with med laser x4, lbx 10 x2, mrm 40 and a 340 LFE and it does very well in clubbing things down, when I focus on twisting in a brawl. You might wince at the 340 LFE but we live in a world of Nascar.
I don't have to go faster than my enemies. I just need to go faster than the dope on my team in an Anni or an Atlas.
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>>230751567
What's dumber to put Jump Jets on, a King Crab or an Atlas?
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heh
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>>230751930
King Snab. There's just no point to it since you're going to be hit in the ct no matter how you turn.
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>>230751930
Pretty sure neither of them are supposed to have jjs
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events and sales
https://mwomercs.com/events/181
https://mwomercs.com/news/2018/10/2156-haunted-heroes-custom-bundle-sale
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>>230763262
>only 400 MC
eh
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>>230764710
Looks to be geared for casual players to complete. It's all easypeasy.
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What are some setups that the ANH-2A does best? Feels weird running Heavy Goose or 4x LB10 when they nerfed the armor quirks and my sides explode extremely quickly.
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>>230765394
6 AC2s can work
5 lb5s works
Though it still does the 4 lb10 and HGR bilds well.
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>>230765915
I meant 6 lb 5
Also 6 ac 5 works well.
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Well this is escalating at a brisk pace.
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Did they decrease the damage on Clan PPCs?
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>>230774401
I like it. I like it a lot.
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>>230770470
Nope.
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>>230769303

I know, look at it trying to jump in the previous video. It's a stop and a hop. Now it just jogs up, jumps over (a larger obstacle at that) then casually 1-2-3's it's way up a series of verticals without slowing down. I'd have thought that science fiction till now.
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>>230782439
huh when I was playing two months ago I thought it was 15 damage instead of 10.
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I ended up switching my ANH-2A to a 2RAC5 4AC2 LFE300 Endo setup with 14 DHS, I know it's not meta but it's fucking satisfying to melt people's faces in 6 seconds

Dunno what to do with my old MX90 now, maybe 4 LB10 or 2HGauss. Didn't like 5AC5 or 4UAC5 that much... not that I need to use it anyway, the quirks hardly make it meta.
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Why didn't anyone tell me about this fucking game? It's Armored Core, cross Metal Gear, cross Lost Planet, and it looks fucking SICK!!!

https://store.steampowered.com/app/714370/LEFT_ALIVE/
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>>230790482
>4 trailers
>no gameplay video

really makes me think
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>>230791471
>it's been almost a year and nothing has changed
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Anyone wanna mwo?
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>>230794063
>cancer pods even in a render
Yikes........
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>>230794063
damn that zeus looks badass
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>>230794681
What's up Greg
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>>230793078
People ITT actually play that game? I thought it was 100% shitposting.
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>>230794538
lmao what are cancer pods?
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>>230801350

It's the only good living mech game around.
Until MW5 comes out.
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Someone told me to wait to buy my first Mech until an ingame sale (on mechs for C-Bills in general I guess?). When do those happen?
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weee I'm a plane mom
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>>230807498
c-bill sales are probably the rarest event in the game, don't bother waiting for that

for spending your MC (that you earn through events, never buy that shit) definitely wait for sales, whether it's a hero mech or an armor pattern or a paint, those go on sale regularly
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>>230807498
They usually put 20-30 mech chassis on sale every 6 weeks or so. But odds aren't good that it's one of the one you wanted to buy most.
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>>230807508
Looks silly as a mech, but I like all the weapon hardpoints
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FAF 5 or 5B
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>>230810016
To be fair most of the human looking ones also look silly. Especially ones with all guns in the torso and arms just for the sake of having arms.
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>>230810846
Both good
One has better ballistic quirks, the other has more energy hardpoints
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>>230807508

Alex's designs have been a blessing, they've made so many goofy looking mechs look fucking great
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>>230397621
>2k19
>not having TSWIFT on your mech
laffiin at jew
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Can someone break down the choice between AS7-D-DC, -K and possibly -S for me?
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>>230814152
>d-dc
>ac20/srm brawler with ecm
>s
>ac20/srm with more srm brawler
>k
>heavy goose mrm thing
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>>230816254
ddc can also do double lbx10s which is pretty solid
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>>230819740
Yeah I was more looking for more insight on chassis differences rather than loadout, or maybe some setups hardpoint configs might lock me out of that I'm not seeing if I pick a certain variant.
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>>230820232
K has the best quirks
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By the way, the guy that estimated 22-24m CB after cadet bonus and 24h premier time was dead on target.
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>>230820232
those are the only worthwhile loadouts on the atlas
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>>230664480
This gives me more of a boner than
>>230608127
this does
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>>230825231
it's pretty standard for most to get with cadet bonus stuff.
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>Call event "Brawler Event"
>None of challenges are necessitate brawling
What did Piggy mean by this?
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What can I get that mounts 2 AC/20s well?
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>>230834016
Warhammer
Thanny can but I don't recommend it
Victor
Fafnir
Anni
Mauler
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>>230834401
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I need someone to tell me if pic related is retarded or not. First time I've done this. The ranges match up fine at least and the heat is aight.
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>>230834016
Victor can do triple
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>>230836234
The AS7-K is better with a Hgauss since it specifically has a Hgauss quirk.

Also double heatsinks are a smarter idea, and taking 1 point of armor off each leg and putting the missing 2 back into the CT is needed.
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>>230837156
>The AS7-K is better with a Hgauss since it specifically has a Hgauss quirk.
It has a fuckton of quirks, mostly. It actually has a great one for missiles but only 1 missile slot. Kind of a theme with each Atlas variant actually, whichever it has the strongest quirk for has the least slots.

>Also double heatsinks are a smarter idea
I don't know where to find Double Sinks unfortunately, all I see is Standards. I'm not sure how production era is accounted for in MWO or anything.

>1 point of armor off each leg and putting the missing 2 back into the CT is needed.
I've considered playing around with less leg armor since it seems to really rarely matter in this game to put them somewhere else.
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>>230837451
Double heatsinks, Ferro fibrous, stealth armor, light ferro and endo-steel are all in the "Upgrades" window as seen in your screen capture.

click the "heatsinks" slot, select double heatsinks and then slap on a few.
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>>230838301
Yeah, saw em now. Going to have to replan around them being 3 slots. I can probably fit Light Ferro but no regular, though considering its a per-ton increase, and the Atlas has a lot of armor tonnage, I probably should.

Though the weapon setup is actually viable, yes? I'm not building trash here?
I'm mostly used to tabletop, and I already miss my rear-mounted lasers.
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>>230836234
>two very large bombs inside your engine compartment
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>>230838908
I mean if they rip the CT it's over anyway, and that thing has XL engine by default, so really I'm just moving 2 very large bombs from the side torsos into the center. Plus -25% crit receive on the chassis.
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>>230836234
Get rid of CASE, put your ammo in your legs and head, get double heatsinks, and put endo on it before you ever put ferro.
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>>230839049
Also upgrade to a standard 340 or 350 once you put endo in there.
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>>230839049
>put your ammo in your head
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>>230839035
Not quite. You're dead if they deplete your structure health sure, but they may crit out the ammo earlier, resulting in your death sooner. They can't crit your engine.


Putting it in your knees and wearing heavy trousers is much safer, or putting the ammo with the gun that uses it as it'll burn that first then go into your leg ammo bins. Head's also fairly safe and if this chart is still true would get used first after same-section ammo is depleted.
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>>230839731
Yeah I put an extra half with the gun since I had 0.5 left and figured before that structure is exposed it'll be gone.

As for heavy trousers, I don't think the Atlas owns any other pair than heavy. I'll have to fiddle with it, but I'm glad the general armament seems to be alright.

Any comments on running double AMS? Should I cut down to 1? Or just go for a Laser?
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>>230839212
You do that in MWO idiot.
https://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=25&l=9e7e2a0d5527f1ea83b7c687b4a034bd5ac84c30
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Anyone have a NVA-B? Is it any good?
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>>230842450
It's an Omnimech.
https://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=181&l=f571720e160445940c468db2d9d8e46034dd1847
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>>230830289
I wish we can have this in mwo
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Is Front Mission Evolved actually a bad game or was the collective tantrum entirely about just being a different genre than main series?
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What can I get that mounts 3 AC/20s well?
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>>230839731
GET GUD and your CT ammo will be depleted before your CT armor is.
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>>230849349
GET GUD and you'll cross the road before that car hits you.
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>>230839731
this chart is outdated
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>>230847498
only one mech in the game and it isn't good
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>>230850525
What is up to date then?
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>>230847498
>>230850664
https://youtu.be/bPg4a6ojj2U
>not good
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yikes
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>>230855000
Nice to see the Victor found a use in MWO. In Tabletop it's just a really anemic assault caught one weight class too high.
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>>230855000
I want to y1ff the_b33f!
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>>230855394
That guy was made to voice the big burly beastrace characters in RPGs or something.
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>>230849349

Or you get some light that sneaks up your tailpipe and pops that big ammo knot right in your yiffy colon. It's really not fucking worth the risk.

Head and legs, or if a Clanner, arms.
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>>230855316
I got an ac 20 and mrm 40 on my Victor plus atlas-tier armor and I love it
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One shot, five kill.
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>>230807498
nah, you get enough cbills after your 25 first matches to buy a couple of mechs
so buy one first but if you don't like it think better what to buy next, because after that it's a long grind
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>>230856979
You can actually do this in the game?
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>>230857634

It shows up as an escort in brutal-level difficulty on Roguetech for the really, REALLY high-end missions.

Salvage a few of those and eventually, you'll get a functional Davy Crockett (nuclear warhead Arrow IV launcher) in the process of Yang building the thing. It's the only legit way to have one, even with the mod.
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Lao Hu when?
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>>230840153
laser ams runs too hot, 1 ams is fine but if you don't need the extra two tons you can go with 2
also remember to take the two ams skill nodes
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Anyone want to play mwo? Asking again for the afternoon crowd
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>>230859381
I would be playing but my power's out and my car doesn't work.
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>>230855394
Does that fag even play MWO anymore?
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>>230860686
What else he would play lmao? He's a literal nobody without it.
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>>230860686

Yes, under a different account name because of harassment.
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>>230861475
>harassment
So many people want to yiff his fat ass?
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>>230859381
You can always go on mumble, there's usually a few people who want to play mech games.
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I fucking hate pirates sometimes.
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>>230864375
Your hate against independent entrepreneurs is noted.
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Fucking. Pirate. "Tech".
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My Atlas is now covered in razor blades.
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>>230865667

Y U DO THIS 2 GAUSS?
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>>230850525
except it isn't.
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>>230857529
Really mostly just 2, and only if you want to run stock and not refit much, it seems. Though prices vary, I guess.

Right now I'm thinking NVA-B and AS7-K.
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>>230866480
>>230851106
the order has been CT-RT-LT-LA-RA-LL-RL-H for at least two years
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>>230867610
Ah, alrighty.
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>>230867610
Does that hold true regardless of where the weapon is? If a weapon is in LT and theres ammo in LT, will it still take ammo from RT first if there is any?
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>>230868118
of course not, that would make sense and here at PGI nothing makes sense
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>>230868118
It will take ammo from the location with the weapon first, always.
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>>230865457
Cute
What's a ppz?
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Patch notes are out, salt mines are open today.
https://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/269527-patch-notes-141840-16-oct-2018/
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>>230872712
WoB cosmetics huh?
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>>230871675

It's a very high recoil, high damage rated PPC that falls between HPPC's and PPCs in performance but has so much kick it screws up shooting it constantly.
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>>230872712
Way to wreck my three favourite mechs, fuck this game.
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>added word of blake cockpit item

jihady tech when?
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>>230872712
>Heat System Overhaul
6 years later and they're still overhauling basic mechanics, what a fucking joke
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>>230807508
I'm honestly sad as hell that the Champion ended up being yet another useless shitmech
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>>230872712
>>230873303
rev up those flamers, this is going to get stupid
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>>230872712
>An AWS-8Q assigned with a "IS PPC HSL+1" quirk is instead allowed to fire 3 standard PPC's within a 0.5 second period of time without penalty (+1 from the weapon's standard penalty trigger.)
Only took how many fucking years for them to figure this shit out? Jesus Christ.
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>>230872712
Most of the changes are good. The dissipation shit is hard to say without actually trying. Probably going to be a buff to ballistic boats.
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>>230873769
At least they fucking did it. Awesome has been a travesty for too long, I can't believe it was used for fucking LRMs instead of PPCs. Holy shit!
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>>230872712
Alright time to go streak boating I guess. Thanks pig.
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>>230872712
>HBK-IIC: Ultra Autocannon 20 HSL +1
IS IT TIME TO FINALLY BRING OUT THE ULTRA 20???????
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>>230873149
What did they "wreck"?
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>>230875282
Hellbringer, Sleip and Bushwankers.
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>>230873560
Chances are flamers will either be insane it terrible, depending on how it interacts with the doubled heat dissipation

>>230874538
The heat changes are good for brawlers and DPS, but bad for builds that need a heat cap of 70 just to alpha. Overall you're going to see more of everything including laser vomit, BUT the vomit will have to stagger HLLs and MLs more often because if the lower cap. RACs also act kind of iffy but it should be fine if you have a brain.
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>>230875527
They didn't even touch the HBR, and you're a dumbass if you think the Bushwacker and Sleipnir didn't need quirk adjustments.
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>>230875730
Wow what an epic argument fagmo. They touched Hellbringer 3 (three) times you fucking mongoliod.

>heat cap
>hll nerf
>ecm nerf
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>>230875867
Actually fuck that, make it three.

>ER Medium nerf
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>>230875527
Cry more, those mechs all overperform.
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>>230876208
>they didn't make your mechs worse
>oh they actually did
I'll just stop playing this dying game a lil bit sooner, there are better games around.
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>>230876386

really, like what? war robots? lmao
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>>230872712
Cool
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>>230876941
>muh robits
Imagine being this autistic
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>>230877424

why are you even here?
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>>230878218
Why are you asking retarded questions?
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>>230878218
This is 4chan
He's here to shitpost
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>>230878597
Whatever keeps you two poofs sleep at night, might as well start jerking eachothers cocks.
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So PIG is intentionally killing MWO to make way for MWO 2 on UE4, right?
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>>230878915

I can only hope
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>>230872712
>fapnir lost it's armor kwirks less that a month after c-bill release

Ahahah, what a ruse, piggu!
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>>230878915
hope so. Maybe MW5 is going to be the basis for MWO 2.0
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>>230874538
Ballistic boats don't really need buffs, and atms are already good but laservomit is definitely the most boring of all the metas and I'm glad it's dying
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>>230879437
>laservomit begone
Best patch all year
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>>230879323
Holy shit you're right. That's fucked up.
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>>230872712
>Annihilator Defense Quirk nerf
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>>230885126
I wish it looked more like the marauder and shadow hawk it's based on. Not less.
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>>230886479
Regardless, it would look better as a manwalker.
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>>230872712
I find it amazing that Battletech the TT game had to do the exact same thing all the time when it came out. Mechs and weapons had to be buffed and nerfed every few months because of how...oh wait, they got their shit right and didn't have to worry about it. Unllike PGI.
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>>230888787
>they got their shit right
lolno
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>>230892512
That mech looks like he's planning to spank dat booty.,
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>>230683479
In HBS's Battletech: Tonage, Heat, Range, and Accuracy.

AC20s are very heavy (you can just barely fit two AC20s with 3 tons of ammo and LRM30 with 3 tons of ammo and literally nothing else with the armor shown), they generate a LOT of heat, the "effective" range is very limited (it has the same 'range' as a medium laser but the effective range is dramatically worse because of accuracy), and the accuracy is very poor (60% chance to hit with max skills at optimal range against an ideal target, by comparison it is not hard to have a medium laser with near perfect accuracy out to its max range against most targets).

>>230684027
Dual heavy lasers means I lose max alpha strike damage at medium ranges and increase heat load for an alpha strike. Although, you are less reliant on ammo and do slightly increase damage at extreme range.

I can see how it could be argued as an option that is at least comparable to what I have here.

However, I have so very very rarely run out of ammo it is almost a non-factor in my experience and I really like the stability damage at range with the extra accuracy I get from AC5s.
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>>230888787
>Mechs and weapons had to be buffed and nerfed every few months
They still need buffing after more than 3 decades because not every piece of junk deserves their BV.

Retarded people should stay quiet but they don't because they're too stupid to, right?
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>>230875971
>>230875867
>none of these complaints are related to the HBR
>heat scale makes DHS boating even better
>shitter still complains about muh laser vom
kek
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>>230888787
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and just assume you're pretending to be retarded and fishing for yous because nobody could genuinely be that stupid.
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>>230872712
>The first 10 Heatsinks equipped on a 'Mech will always provide a flat 20 total points of Heat Threshold (2 per heatsink) regardless of whether they are internally mounted in the engine, or must be externally equipped in crit slots on a 'Mech.
>When a heatsink must be externally mounted to meet the 10 heat sink requirement, its provided threshold is increased up to 2, overriding the stated value in the 'Mechlab.
Wait a minute, this means they've finally untangled their spaghetti code and figured out how to put stat overrides on equipment. Wouldn't this mean that they could also make those heat sinks behave as singles even if they're doubles? Or doubles if they're singles in order to speed up the fighting?

One of the solutions to the DHS-SHS gap that many have agreed on in the past is that the rule that says internal sinks can be upgraded should be rescinded and was a mistake from the start. I believe it was Randall that said this on video too in one of the Trannytech development streams.

If the engine sinks always behave like one or the other type, then it becomes much, MUCH easier to balance the two types of heat sinks as a whole.
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>>230895357
internal will be equal to external in the next patch
heat cap per sink is greatly reduced
heat dissipation is increased across the board
the goal is increased DPS while reducing max possible alpha of high heat + high damage weaponry
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>>230897746
Should make a lot of brawling builds a lot stronger
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>>230897746
Equal for DHS. If you have SHS then its following SHS standards and still shit. That is, unless I did missed absorbing that info from the post. I am assuming it works exactly the same as before except with tweaked stats and sub-250 sinks no longer having lower values.
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Lads,
I want a ballistic gunboat that isn't slow as molasses, a friend recommended the mauler and going 5xAC5
Any other suggestions?
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>>230899868
all balls are slow desu
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>>230899868
Mad Cat mk2 -B variant. 2 UAC10 2 UAC5.
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>>230873560
>we will not be targeting changes for the flamer immediately
"we will make everyone suffer the new flamer meta for weeks and then act surprised on how much it gets abused"
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>>230899868
Clan or Bushwacker, maximum dakka IS builds are always slow
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>>230904449
What, can't afford to sacrifice a ton for anti flamer flamers on your build? Lol, gitgud dumbass
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>assault armor nerfs
motherfuckers, they should rename assault to 'slow heavy'
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>>230904454
and clans can't into balls
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>>230906423
Show me the heavy that can boat 2RAC5 and 4AC2 and maybe you'd have a point
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>>230899868
DRG-5N
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>>230872712
Does PGI know what year it is? This is the shit players asked for in 2014 for fuck sake.
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SELL YOUR HELLBRINGERS NOW
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>>230912932
Nah, they're still good.
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So the NVA-B is fairly solid even without major refits, right? I want to have enough left over to buy another, heavier mech afterwards but I like the way it looks. -Laser duration quirks are also positive I assume, since it does full damage but in a shorter time?
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>>230916913
god no it's terrible
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>>230916913
Nova is ok if you're running a lot of lasers or lasers and memeguns. Also has a 2ppc poptart build. Unfortunately ersmalls and small pulse are crap which limits the best potential laser vomit that could be used for it.

Out of all the stock builds, only the S is usable out of the box.
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>>230917383
>>230917384
What's a good stock medium ballistic harasser that's got either the speed or ECM to do it and potentially has some stock advantages like double sinks so I don't have to upgrade from stock?
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>>230917632
Best pure ballistic harasser is bushwacker, but its getting nerfed in this coming patch.

If you want to run some sort of mixed build with ballistic and srms then I suggest either huntsman for clans or shadowhawk for IS.
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>>230917632
Yeah you won't be running anything stock just better get used to it now, a lot of mechs cost more to upgrade and properly equip[ than they cost to initially purchase.
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>>230917632
Most clan omnimechs require no changes.

At most swapping an omnipod which costs only a very small amount.
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>>230912932
Imagine being such a babby mode cuck that you can't adapt to INCREASED HEAT DISSIPATION on your energy focused robots
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>>230917932
>Most clan omnimechs require no changes.
This is hilariously false
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Can't wait for everyone to play heat neutral C-ERLEL boats
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>>230918142
>can't swap engine
>can't swap heatsinks
>can't swap internals
Sure, whatever you say
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>>230918225
ERLLs got nerfed and were always kind of shit
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>>230918234
Completely changing the loadouts apparently doesn't count as changing the mech. You're also not taking in account Clan Omnis being twice as expensive and Clan weapons being twice as expensive.
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>>230918330
>~10% increase in heat generation
>200% increase in heat dissipation
Oh no!
>were always kind of shit
Absolute shitter
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>>230917932
Isn't the NVA an Omnimech?
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>>230917932

This, it's why they're a great purchase especially on sale.
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>>230397621
Need help building the Ass, any good builds with streaks or should it be a laser boat?
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bamp
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>>230929154
You sure you wanna run XL?
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>ded thred
dumb konglets
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>>230929154
You only have 4 energy and 2 missile hardpoints. You won't be able to do run just streaks or just energy.

https://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=522&l=63cc75a3004d7b549b80feaa7f325eadc2fad4a3

https://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=522&l=1603d74c18c17abcc622277b6061c7a73cb49553
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>>230929154
Ass is not for streaking
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B
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>>230929154
>bought the bad variant

Look at this dood

Try to fit some mls and srm6 on that bitch, its the only way since the pig REFUSES to make spls and sls relevant
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>>230935206
Is Dashing in kong anymore?
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>>230943358
Is kong in kong anymore? No.
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I'm debating about dropping 20 dollars for the basic Warhammer II pack. The release is just so far away and I have no idea how they will actually run.
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>>230947007
I already did it. I love the look of it, and it's in the sweetspot of clan battlemechs between 65-85 tons.
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>>230947007
I'm in the same boat, even with the Clan energy weapon changes on Tuesday.
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>>230929154
You bought the wrong one. The only Ass you want is the 21.
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I wish I was still in KONG.
I'd be The Last KONGurai, running shitmechs and obsolete builds to the very end.
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how is the sunspider? I was thinking of building an atm boat and it looks like a good candidate (which I can always repurpose to 4xac2 if I don't like it)
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>>230959008
Unremarkable except I always see their weirdo name and focus them.
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>>230959008

I like the dual gauss spider
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>>230959008
It can do 3 ATM9, Gauss Vomit or small ballistics fine
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>play a light
>work my ass off to get 4 kills with backstabs
>get a lesser score than some nerd with 0 kills 12 assists and 700 damage

IT'S NOT FAIR
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>>230959008
It’s way more useable after they fixed the hitboxes for the side torsos, but nothing super amazing. I had been running two UAC5s, an ERPPC, and an ATM-9 on my welfare hero and it does okay.
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>>230961282
this is why I am giving up on lights and going back to playing meds
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>>230961282
Efficient damage gives you shit scores in this game. Just go maximum dakka or sandpaper missiles. It's the reason why I get 500 score every fucking time I bring out my 2RAC5 4AC2 face melting Annihilator
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>>230961282
The real kill is "Kill most damage dealt". Not the one that gets the blow.
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>>230964729

I literally cored all of them through the back by myself
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We not gonna get our damn height comparisons and quirks and shit for the Champion until it’s too late for refund or something?
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>>230967236
They're too busy getting ready to buy legal pot on Wednesday to give a shit. It's why they came out with that shit patch and all of it's changes.
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>>230967236
I want to know this too, but I'm not going to buy one anyways.
It's a neat looking mech, I just hope the hitboxes won't be as bad as I'm expecting it to be.
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>>230969672
It's strange how people seem to have so many hitbox issues but then you try to hit head (aka cockpit) on the Atlas and its literally just the left eye cockpit window.
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>play in my Marauder-IIC-D
>Team constantly folds

Side note, should I buy a Firestarter-9 just for kicks?
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>>230971842
Go for it.
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>>230971842

i say wait for next week to see how flamethrowers pan out
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Do light and heavy PPC do damage within 90m despite what the tooltip says? I could have sworn I did damage to a light that was trying to backstab me at 70m.
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>>230976974
It’s a very negligible amount, but it will still show that it is doing damage.
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Any bets on the laser changes getting removed before the patch? Wishful thinking, I know.
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Hey guys, just checking in from the LongHouse. How's everyoen !
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>>230983773
>survival not nearly maxed out
>all those points in mobility
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>>230987625
not that anon, but 17-18 in Survivial is all you 'need' though having more like you said isn't a bad thing either.
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>>230987625
The structure side of the survival tree is an unnecessary luxury and it's a Black Lanner so yeah I'm going to pick up speed tweak
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Its the mobility tree good for anything at all, /gerg/?
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>>230989191
Speed tweak on lights is worth it plenty of times
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>>230989191

since all the skills are percentage based you should just dump points into your strengths. fast light? then make sure you pick up mobility
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>>230989191
Torso speed and Yaw are useful for assaults on down to lights. Speed Tweak for lights and some mediums. Some Heavies simply because you have the nodes to spare.
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>>230985607
Have you been burning and scrubbing your card with steel wool?
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tfw too heavy to handle
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>>230994270
>greg
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any testing map with ecm mechs? I want to test how tag works because I couldn't get a lock on a fafnir and died
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>>230997070
I don't think so no but tag cuts through ECM unless you're right next to them at which point your lock ability will be fucked
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>>230985607
Hahahahahaha, man I can't believe they fucked that game so hard
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>>230994270
>less than 200 damage in Heavy Goose: The Robbut
How? Just click five times, like really dog? I just >>230994546 can't understand how such a thing is possible.
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>>231000247
Not to defend greg but they did nerf the fafnir.
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>>231000247
I assume it's hard to rack up damage when you get to the fight late and everything dies when you click on it
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is it still worth getting fafnir now that they nerfed it?
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>>231001960
You can still wreck face with it post nerf.
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>>231001960
It wasn't even worth it before when the Anni was better
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>>231002393
but you can't put ecm on anni
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>>231002776
Ecm is shit
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>>231002912
but ecm will help you get close to targets to shoot them
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>>231003283
So will pressing w
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>>231003417
but the w key will get you lrm to death without ecm
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>>231003547
Only if you walk out into the open instead of using the map
99% of the time that will not happen
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>>231002393
What will be best 100tonner once the nerfs hit?
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12x HSL, 4x HMG nova is stupid but fun. what other knife fight style mechs can you build?
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>>231006383
What's the ghostheat on the hsls?
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>>231007619
not too bad if you chain fire them
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>>231007619
triggers if you fire more than 5
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>>231001960
The nerf is 4 armour loss anon. It barely impacts the thing.
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>>231007953
>chainfiring

>>231008105
Too bad, 4 weapon groups is too many
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>>231009893
Group 1: left five
Group 2: right five
Group 3: machine guns and extras, taped down
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>>230994270
Can I join with you
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I'm gonna be sad if my favorite RAC5 builds end up being shit after the heat sink changes. I love brawling, but SRM hit detection has been fucked for ages.
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>>230997070
If you point it at them, they're marked, unless you're within the 120m radius of the ECM itself, in which case it blocks (because your systems are affected)
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>>231000247
it's group queue, games are often so short the slowest mechs don't get to shoot anything
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>>231011547
You'd have to hop onto the mumble at a decent hour. That's where all the good players in this thread hang out.
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>>231003635
>hide behind buildings, still get hit by lrms because of the arc and lights tagging you
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>>231015208
you mean the mumble is dead 90% of the time outside of those hours
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>>231015637
The world has moved on to Discord.
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>>231015446
AMS counters LRMs, not ECM.
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kong civil war 2 when?
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>>231016117
still funny to me they made it for star citizen
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>>231015637
Yet still more alive and useful than the scamcitizen discord.
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>>231016459
We could join a more active discord like Kanajashi's catgirl murr den.
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>>231016710
or not
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Is there anyone in the discord actually worth talking to or are you all fags
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>>231017384
Yes.
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>>231017384
Man I miss these comics
Especially the one with the Bushwacker
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>>231016221
not when they can't lock on to you because they can't target you with ecm
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>>231019383
>he thinks ECM is useful
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>>231019383
Yeah if absolutely no one on their side has a TAG, Probe or ECM of their own.
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>be hbr
>annihilator stands still while looking at my general direction

Is there anything better than killing an annihilator when he's at 90% health
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Just gonna leave this here and yeet out

https://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=35&l=859ab1433bdb37467660928f908e36184baa2b60
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>>231023453
okay but why though?
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>>231023453
https://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=35&l=46729c5daea0156a2172173c01ee1f33a8a7a520

Here, I made it vaguely useable. Go nuts.
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>>231022452
Killing two
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>>231023453
nice 2012 memes
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>>231025657
>raybans
>usable
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>>231023453
You could at least stick a mrm 40 and do actual damage with it
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bump
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Are there any deader generals then /gerg/?
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>>231036475
lmao is that a fucking samoan?
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>>231036475
Better quiet generals like this one than the ones full of shitposts and shitty weeb waifuposters
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>>231036746

good point
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>>231036746
/egg/ is a quiet general
/gerg/ is just a slow shitpost circle with no real content
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>>231036746
>ones full of shitposts and shitty weeb waifuposters
There are so many of them too.
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>>231038450
Yep, I frequent a half dozen generals, and this is surprisingly the best of the bunch.
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>>231037972
I won't argue that /gerg/ is a top quality general, but if you've ever browsed an MMO general, mobile game generals or shit like LoL and Dota -- pretty much anything that has an anime image in the OP, TRUST ME it gets magnitudes worse.
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>>231038735
Once the two shitposters each die of anal hemorrhage and sodium overdose respectively, it will improve by a significant margin.
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>>231039206
i.e. it dies
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Why are SRMs so shit.
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>>231039206

one can only hope
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>>231039415
half of them don't get registered
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>>231039689
Honestly I just also don't see them having an appreciable niche in their range category for how they are fired/hit/cluster and all that.
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>>230790482
Because it's set in the Front Mission universe with it mostly being on foot instead of in mechs.
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>>231039689
I used to love SRMs but had to stop using them because of this shit. I can cram them all into someone's tailpipe but nothing will happen. Why are they like this now? They used to work fine.
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>>231041329
Works on my machine
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>>231041329
Just use LB-X
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I swear 2/3rds of my losses come from assaults standing around with zero awareness or zero response to developing situation.
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>>231042602
Lots of new potatoes out there
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How do you even find a Unit in this game without a global chat?
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>>231047795
Play the game
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>>231047795
Depends on why you even want a unit
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>>231048284
Merc career, probably. Also not having that facebook-tier icon.
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>>231048407
If you just want a unit icon and tag, you can just make a unit.

If you just want to play with other people because it's more fun that way then try the mumble.

If you want to do faction play, good luck because it's kind of shit. Maybe you can find someone on reddit.
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>>231041654
Are you using IS ASRMs? I can't hit shit with my Pakhet or Awoo unless I'm literally up their ass. Ballistics feel infinitely better, even the slow ones like the IS AC20 slug.
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>>231048760
I think I uninstalled Mumble for good about 5 years ago. Why are people even still on it.
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>>231049527
old men that refuse to change
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>>231049527
Why would anyone use anything else?
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>>231049527
Because it doesn't hand my information to the chinks
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>>231049527
Because I don't care about shitposts and memes in realtime?
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>>231051374
What are you doing here then?
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>>231051547
Here for videogames
If you want /b/ it's that way >>>/b/
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Do people actually have fun playing LRM boats? I've tried playing them but I find them to be shit.
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>>231052207
They are shit but take no skill to play, which is what keeps them around
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>>231052207
Don't have to be an entire boat, but swapping one weapon on a regular mech to haviong some LRMs is an immediate 50-100 point increase in average match rating and payout simply due to the kill assists and the like everywhere.
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>>231052207
It's one of the easiest ways to generate a ton of salt. Nothing gets people mad when they shit on by a cloud of lrms when they didn't expect it.
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>>231052207
Occasionally. They have their own fun if you don't be your average LRMtard that stands at the back away from all enemies, LRMing at max range.

Getting in close to 200-300m and aggressively LRMing is fairly fun.
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>>231053661
So... ATMs then?
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>>231053463
Or you have an AMS and you just sit there thinking what an idiot that guy is while nothing hits you.
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>>231053786
At this point I'm honestly struggling to see what the distinction between SRM, MRM and Rocket Launcher is supposed to be.
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>>231053860
>thinks an ams stops 60-80 lrms
Whatever you say kiddo
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>>231053786
ATMs and LRMs have their distinctions. LRMs don't get blown the fuck out by a single AMS, and they are much, much spammier than ATMs.

6LRM10 Mad Dog is a hilarious time.
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>>231054014
2 Laser AMS can. If your friends have AMS too all you gotta do is stand together.
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>>231054825
>not if I have 10 AMS!!!!
You getting tired moving those goalposts?
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>>231054932
No? Teams covering each other with their AMS is pretty normal. If you're running an AMS you should position yourself in order to shield your non-AMS having teammates when they charge, aswell.
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>>231054825
LaserAMS is pure garbage. Enjoy shutting down on caustic right as the nascar hits you.
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>>231055097
Iunno who even votes for caustic, it has the lowest votes every time. Though I do get tired of everyone voting Frozen City all day.
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>>231054825
2 AMS will not shut down even 30 LRMs at once, be it laser or standard.

You need 5+ to start doing that, or use the ultra AMS bug (is that still even in the game?) which requires sacrificing a side torso to do properly.
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>>231054825
If your friends have lrms all you gotta do is shoot together.
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>>231056445
That requires more teamwork than the average LRM spammer is capable of.
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AMS does cut back on the amount of shit thrown at you but it's not perfect. Maybe if you're a shitfox perfectly positioned between the lurmer and the target you can shut down like 50 tubes or something at most

But ATMs just dont have the tube count to brute force through massed AMS
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>>231056902
>pressing a button requires teamwork
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Not sure if I'm calculating this wrong...
18 dhs + 10 engine dhs = 18*0.5 + 20 = 29 heat capacity
This means you can't alpha with 5 c-erml or you will overheat right?
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>>231054825
>all you gotta do is stand together
That requires more teamwork than the average coward is capable of.
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>>231057946
You have 30 heat capacity to start with regardless of heatsinks.
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>>231053860

I think LRMboats are shitters too, but you're just plain wrong. Take the L and move on.
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>>231057946
Also, there are heatcap skillnodes which can affect that as well.
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>>231058950
Obviously the side without the LRM spammers gets the L.
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>>231058418
oh I see, then the total would be 59 so it means you can fire 9 c-erml
so for my 9 erml hellbringer only the dmg nerf will affect it but I can replace a dhs for another erml while still having a 41% increase in heat dissipation compared to now
that sounds like a big buff
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There was one match where my team got slaughtered because the opposing team was a mix of tags and LRM boats which convinced to try LRMing but I don't have any fun when I do
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My only experience with LRMs was a Stalker with 4 ERLL as a primary weapon. It was kinda fun sending down 30 LRMs on a target that you send running, but I don't know how you can regularly play builds that have LRMs as a main weapon.
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>>231062625
The thing that always gets me about Stalkers is that they legit look like a Medium, or Heavy at best, if you just look at the model.
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>>231062982
Really? Whenever I see a Stalker's big meaty thighs I know she's one of the big girls.
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>>231052207
I like using LRMs sometimes in combo with larges or erlls. That whole hide at maximum range and beg for locks thing is not a hell of a lot of fun. Pushing in with everyone else and hanging around to sandblast with missiles and follow up on components with lasers is infinitely more fun and useful.
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>>231066447
This but with LB-X desu.
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>>231066652
Why bother with shitty LRMs at that point?
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>>231052207
I play a LRM boat when I want to troll, both my team and the enemy team.
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So is the Armored Core series worth playing for just the singleplayer?
I've been going through DeS, DaS1 and 2 thoroughly, now looking for another series to thoroughly dig into.
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>>231067865
Hardpoints, unfortunately.
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>>231068349
Yes, unquestionably yes. All of the AC games except Ninebreaker and arguably ACV/VD are worth playing sheerly for the singleplayer.
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What unconventional build do you do well with?
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>>231072994
That head hitbox looks pretty easy to hit honestly.
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>>231074424
I'm guessing it's the upper half of the cockpit above the 'crease' in the glass.
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>>231072274
RAC5s on everything, with bonus weapons.
Annihilator or Mauler? 2RAC5 + 4AC2
Orion? 2RAC5 + MRM30
Bushwacker? You know I'm putting 2RAC5 on it.

You think I care about laser vomit? Bitch, I am dakka vomit and my vomit never ends. You ain't gonna twist away 15 seconds of 33 DPS. You either find cover or die trying.

I also run a Shadow Cat with 6 HMG + 2 ASRM6 + HML, but it's less DPS and less range than 2RAC5. The benefit is it doesn't overheat or jam the same way RACs do.
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>>231072994
Is the boxy part between each arm side torso or bonus arm?
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>>231076554
probably ST, one reason they get half decent ST armor quirks.
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>>231076415
>racs
>unconventional
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>>231072274
2ERPPC 2ATM9 Timber Wolf has been doing exceptionally well for me, better than it has any right to
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>>231072994
The Champion looks gorgeous but so easy to kill which is very true to Battletech canon actually, none outside Comstar survived IIRC.
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>>231072994
Looks like it will be able to do vertical peeking pretty well, but those sides will be focused real easy.
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>>231081124
Presumably those arms are empty and work as big shields while the guns are in the side torsos.
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>>231082232
Can't hide the giant rocket pods sticking out the back
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>>231072274
I don't know how unconventional it is, but I've gotten a few 1k damage games recently with a simple atm 24 maddog
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I bought the Wrhammer on sale for like 4 million and now its costing me an additional 6 million to refit it. Fucking rippoff.
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>>231086732
Every mech ever.
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>>231086732
Should have gotten a clan omni instead
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>>231086916
>buy mech
>throw stock engine into the trash
everytime, I wish I was able to buy stripped mechs
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>>231084750
Part of me really wants to see what PGI's art dept. would do with that to make it a MWO mech.
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>>231086732
This is why Clans are superior. Stupid freebirths.
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>>231087252
I honestly feel like running XL is just too much of a liability, plus it blocks out so many slots for Endo/Ferro.
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>>231088048
Almost none come with Light Engines, let alone the appropriate light engine, which is what you'll be getting over half the time.
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>another match
>get behind enemies lines in a piranha, do 800 damage and get 4 kills
>team still gets absolutely stomped

somebody save me from this evil. like am I doing something wrong here? should I just baby sit assaults the whole fucking match for us to have a chance at winning?
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>>231089201
I think I was the medium trying to babysit our assaults back from you but because literally no one cares about pings about shit in their back until the Light just takes you down there was nothing I could do.

I've started considering shooting my team in the back to make them turn around and notice.
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>have to put a micro laser on my jaguar to have both ppcs on the "ear"

Infuriating
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>>231090698
I know. I've got LT stuff in my Bushwhacker and it always wants to put the giant "tail" box on for the first and a tiny bolt-on for the second. It's like it wants to be a giant target.
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>>231089201
You realize the same thing is happening to your team that is happening to theirs
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B
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Hope y'all are ready for flamer Piranhas in a few days
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>>231097334
Eh, I'll just swap my welfare Kintaro and Awoo to streakboats and work on skilling them up for a while.
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>>231093007
true, but I THINK I provide a bit more value to my team if I take out their assaults and LRM boats

>>231090107
if this was on caustic valley then yeah, nobody supports theirs assaults in QP
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>>231097334
>not using a memestarter
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>>231101708

firestarter is a heavy/assault mech that moves at 140kph
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>>231072994
I'm somewhat pleased with the size and quirks. Might be fun to try to run with a standard to abuse the hell out of the gigantic side torsos for shields.
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>>231052207

Sure. If you play them at their worst like lurmtards oft do (hiding, extreme range) they're boring and suck.

If you're constantly firing over 500m range and indirect, you're doing it wrong. Indirect is so you can keep firing while lining up direct shots or reposition out of a bad fire lane. Ideally, you're putting extra damage in with medium lasers and such and drawing your fair share of incoming fire. If you get shredded, you can resort to dumping missiles only from cover, meaning at least some damage vs exposing a cored section and dying, stopping you entirely.
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>>231086732
Inner Sphere stuff generally are fixer uppers, you get what you pay for.
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>>231090698
Not being able to pick hard points to install guns in has been an eternal sore point.
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>>231102201
all is lights are heavies anon
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>>231102201
Funny way of saying Wolfhound.
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Considering none of you niggers helped me with a build; r8 or h8
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>>231105518
>LRM assassin
what the fuck

Switch those out for SRM4's, maybe switch to regular medium lasers too since you're not going to be sniping with them. Try going for ferro fibrous too if you can, if not then leave it as is.
You'll be a god with that. That model of Assassin is one of the most OP mechs in the game. Run in, blast with some missiles a bit, and run out with minimal damage taken due to your insanely thin profile.
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>>231105518
less JJ
more ammo
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>>231105518
Basically this >>231106173 but with only a few jump jets. You'll never need to have that many unless you're doing some kind of meme build.

You'll get the hang of builds eventually. Try just googling up some builds for that chassis and see what's popular.
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>"The lrm assassin is a horri-"
Btfo'd again /gerg/
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