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Giants (Boat) Edition

>FAQs and General Info
https://pastebin.com/gZ1T9VCN (embed)
https://pastebin.com/uGj4AUHR (embed)

>Roll Charts
https://imgur.com/a/tmC69Dc

>Warhammer 2 Info
Curse of the Vampire Coast trailer - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHh1TxryWlw (embed)
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/total-war-warhammer-ii-curse-of-the-vampire-coast-faq
Vampire coast LL preview - https://academy.totalwar.com/vampire-coast/


Screenshots and campaign posting encouraged!

Old Thread: >>230740038
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so, wit the vampire counts getting a rework, where will Heinrich Kemmler's new starting location be?
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Second for Vietnam Vampires
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>>230779715

Personally hoping for Mousillon, it's a far more interesting start pos than Sylvania
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All I want is Lokhir, I've wanted him since the first game was announced. And with an entire themed pirate DLC on the way something tells me CA will be retarded since they always do the polar opposite of what makes sense and will give us a boring ass Malus. Malice Edgeblade could be made by any modder by just putting a generic long haired dark elfs head on any of the heavily armored dark elf bodies. I'm pretty sure there are some mods to reskin Delf lords that are basically Malus already. Give him a skill line to buff cold one riders so that they're stronger and increase his ebon claw no rampage riders and call it a day. He's a generic sword and board lord anyways, just give him a cold one mount named spike that has better stats, and finally a hag potion renamed to "sleeping concoction" that gives him massive melee stat buffs and rampage to represent his demonic side and you're golden. CA said they aren't ever going to make actual model transformations, look at transformation of Kardon.

Yes I'm butthurt.
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Watch the new FLC be Red Duke
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>>230779759
i dont understand this
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>>230779583
>forcing a siege battle when your meat-shields are so depleted
just pull back, pad out your forces with more clan-rats and slaves and maybe raise another stack just to get more bodies on the field before decimating the dawi army again with underway/ambush battles and restarting the siege
which lore of magic does rasknitt have in this game, ruin?
>>230779759
vampirates have no flamethrowers or helicopters, we all know that the dawi are the REAL vietnam faction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec0XKhAHR5I
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the red duke will be the 10th vampire legendary lord
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>>230779859
it's a pirates of the Caribbean reference
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>>230779715
>>230779782
Helman ghorst will be moved to nehekhara

Kemmler gets nothing
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>>230779802
I doubt they'd put him in seeing hag graef is already so close to the other LL starting positions. Lokhir is a much safer bet.
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>>230779802
I'm with you anon. Everybody expects Lokhir now, but it's sure as fuck going to be Malgus because he is generic and cheap to make.
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>>230779623
>Empire
Imperial dragon
War Altar
Celestial Arcanum
Markus Wulfhart
>Dwarves
Anvil of Doom
Goblin Hewer
Joseph Bugman
New beer mechanic
>Greenskins
Colossal Squig
Big Stabba
Gnob Wagon
Gorbad Ironclaw (with Gnarla steed)
New waaaagh mechanic
>Vampire Counts
Don't get anything because they have too much already
>Chaos
Slaughterbrutes
Vortex beasts
Warshrine
Chimerae
Chaos Siege Gargant
Hellstriders of Slaanesh
Valkia the Bloody
New end times mechanic
>Beastmen
Incarnate of Beasts
Jabberslythes
Ghorgons
Preyton
Gorthor, the Beastlord
New campaign movement mechanic
>Wood Elves
Spellsingers
Araloth
Rework
>Bretonnia
Should be removed from the game because they're a shitty cucked faction and no one likes them
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>>230779943
No because that's what everyone's expecting and would be semi-appropriate.

Lokhir is a pirate lord so he'd be 100% appropriate and good
Red Duke and Mousillon is an oft-asked for addition and would be good too
No one except that one faggot wants malus since malus' lore is being a dick antihero who is also edgy as fuck, and has nothing to do with pirates or vampires

Therefore it'll be malus because CA is run by brainlets
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>>230779842
>>230779943
He's already in-game, we need Neferata you fools.
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>>230779932
yes lore of ruin
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>>230780201
Bretonnia should be given horse knights, knights that are also horses

And damsels on armored unicorns, except the damsels also have spears and are men
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsWkKp6DKH4

Who is ready for the ultimate pirate song
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>Empire Rework never ever.
Why is being an Empirefag constant suffering lads?
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>>230780149
Lokhir wouldn't even need facial animations, how is Malus cheaper to make?
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>>230780082
Malus doesn't have to start at the Graef. He was globetrotting in the comic that introduced him, so he could feasibly start anywhere. A lustia or southlands start would be ideal.
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Ok! now i can do this
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c&c is fun. I usually don't use swordmasters or phoenixes but the soft unit caps and rebalacing made me try them out and they were nice. If I didn't ram the phoenix into 2 black guard it probably would have gotten 200+ kills.
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>>230780379

HAIL THE MIGHTY, HE COMES FROM THE __________!
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>>230780437
they just added Chupayotl to the Mortal Empires map, which is where Lokhir got his kraken mask
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>>230780394
An authentic Warhammer Empire experience.
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>no pirates of Sartosa
>just gimp coast with one (1) sartosa unit exclusive to one (1) LL

why do i even hope
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When are they adding the Female Elector count as a LL?
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>>230780472
>ram phoenix into black guard
>literally ram it into the thing it's weak against
>doesn't melt

Nice cheats. Is playing without even having to think fun to you?
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>>230780472
FUCK SAPHERY
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>>230780557
>generic empire rip off that's pretty much just free company + cannons
>or zombie pirates with sea monsters, giant cannons, and walking pirate ship monsters
hmmmm
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cairn wraiths
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>>230780675
phoenix resurrected but routed.
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>>230780236
doesn't matter what we need, CA is giving us the least effort possible
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>>230780759
fate of bjuna
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>her vampire admirals handle undead recruitment!
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>>230780414
What is more expensive, reskinning generic dread lord and adding long hair or hiring some expensive Tom Parker to make cool Kraken mask and then forcing devs to make unique Black Ark?
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>>230780557
Total War: Age of Piracy game when?
>>230780665
Never, she's worthless.
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>>230780912
>malus is just alith anar with the opposite colors
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>>230780840
Yeah that is pure shit.
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pretty-pretty
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>>230780840
why would a vampire (or even group of them!) ever work for a human, nevermind her being a mutant shunned even by humans
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>>230780840
It's funny because nobody even thought about it. Most debates were around making her undead or giving her reskinned Empire units with reskinned non-zombie Crabs and whatnot.
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>We will never see a Full Warhammer Worldmap.
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>>230780840
worse, it's her vampire first mate
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>>230780379
>this weak, sad excuse for a shanty
>the ultimate pirate song
step aside, landlubber
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C90h1pbF1yY
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>>230781038
Maybe she has tasty fishblood
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>>230780557
I guarantee that there'll be a living Sartosa mod by the end of the first week.
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>>230781048
Probably because it's so stupid in comparison to the other two ideas aforementioned by you
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>>230781038
Fish pussi (or Fishdick) she is a mutant after all.
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>>230780912
A new face would take more effort than Lokhir's mask.
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>>230781262
Malus bad Lokhir good
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me want lokhir NOW
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>>230781498
>Delftoid wants his edgy baby sailor boy.
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>>230780665
Why add more to empire when you can fuck up a vampire pirate faction by randomly adding living pirates?
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>>230781646
How upset is your autistic ass over these previously throwaway characters you'd never heard of before people started speculating over DLC for this game?
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>>230781172
>>230781048
>they could have just said "she's a vampire now lol" and all problems would be resolved
>instead some stupid shit about vampire pirates working for her because ??? reasons

Why does she even want undead corpses crewing her boat?
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Why are you all so mad about this? I thought you where all joking at first but its been almost a full 24 hours now, How are you all this genuinely mad over one LL on one little Island?
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>>230781830
Pretty sure the idea is that her human pirates crew the boat.
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>>230782023
>that face
what the fuck is wrong with malekith
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>>230781778
>REE stop insulting glorious CA

How much of a tremendous faggot do you have to be to defend a company's retarded mistakes FOR FREE online?
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>>230781617
desu i don't even like delfs. just want edgy baby sailor boy
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i love warp lightning!
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Clearly this DLC was first pitched as a "Pirate" pack with both vampire coast and human pirate rosters, but someone in the CA chain realised they could cut costs by merging the rosters and giving the pirate humans the same vampire units. The flimsiest of flimsy pretexts could come afterwards to justify: if the LLs employ vampires as admiral-captains then those vampires can vicariously recruit undead units for the human pirates.
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>>230782068
He has PRIDE.
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>>230782098
I don't think he is defending CA, just laughing at you empire players is all.
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Are there any giant wolves/hounds in WH lore? I want big doggy for monstrous unit!
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>>230782023
Some are autistic, some just hate fantasy but pretend they play it. See >>230782098
He's literally unable to wrap his dysfunctional brain around the idea that a little bit of creative license for converting a barebones faction for a video game isn't a huge issue.
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>>230782023
>didn't care at first
>the more I thought about it the more annoyed I got that CA passed up actual undead pirates in favor of aranessa just because they wanted to dump female characters into the DLC

Literally just fucking make a goddamn Amazon race pack if you want more fucking female characters for fuck's sake, why is everything that CA does ass-backwards and unproductive?
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>>230782186
i like this meme, we need more edits
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>>230782186
>>230782337
i don't get it and the horrifying expression of the middle character upsets me
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>>230782278
>U DON'T READ COMICS U JUST PRETEND
>barebones faction when there are literally half a dozen undead pirate captains mentioned between Dreadfleet and the Vampire Counts, meaning that adding Aranessa and the Silver Literalwho literally means actual undead pirates get passed up

Fuck off back to /co/ you waste of a human
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>>230782156
What would they even do with a faction of human pirates? They don't have shit worth mentioning in rules or fluff.
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>>230782306
>CA
>Making a faction of strong brown Wifus.
Optimistic.
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>>230780201
What else could they add?
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>>230780394
I'm planning to teach myself how to mod for this reason. Make their units slightly stronger, make their tech take less longer to research, and make their diplomacy with the empire provinces easier.

Hopefully with this, you'll be able to have bigger and better armies, and easy confederation so that you can UNITE THE PROVINCES and BTFO the Vampire cunts by the time turn fifty or eighty, so you don't get annihilated or surronded by northlings or bloodsuckers before you even start.

Thinking of calling it "The Empire Endures" or something.
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>>230782186
I need to see the original to get it
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>>230782441
Comics? What? And do you understand that the purpose of LLs is that they're meant to be different from one another? How would you make shit like Drekla different?
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>>230782479
the world needs more modders, anon
i'm learning how to tackle modding just so i can rework greenies and lizards (and maybe empire as well)
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i dont know how but rasknitt changed his horns
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>>230782156
That makes sense until you realize the Silver Princess is not actually a pirate but a land-bound roving (possibly Arabyan) vampire lady. There is literally nothing in her lore which mentions the sea in any way that would imply she'd ever commanded a fleet there.

Even the idea of including the Sea Hag- an undead witch who lives in the Sea of Claws- would have been better. But CA literally only included the Silver Princess because she's a vampire and they wanted more women in the roster. This is the one and only reason.
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>>230782265
Are you fucking kidding me? Have you even fought Norsca before. Their Ice Wolves are as large as a Razorgor and nearly as killy. Skin Wolves are even larger.
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>>230782386
>>230782547
>He missed Ruber Posting.
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>>230782479
Rename it "The Empire Easymode" instead. Just play Normal or Easy instead, you colossal faggot.
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You know what the empire needs? Sisters of Sigmar.
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>>230782938
NOOOOOO MORE WOMEN AGHHH I HATE WOMEN!
FUCKING FEMINISM!
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>>230782938
>women in the fields of battle
nope
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>>230782306
The only two undead left is Half-Dead which is Skaven minus fun Skaven weapons and Vangheist the Autistic Flying Dutchman. So no. There is no way CA would put TK or Dawi Zharr in this DLC.
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>>230783020
>>230783007
>not wanting your Sigmarite Priest to lead a mob of bloody thirsty fanatical nuns in heavy armor as they screech payers and smash skulls in with hammers

Fags
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>>230783007
>>230783020
t. corehim devs
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>>230782938
>that fucking face
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>>230783043
We are not going to see must of the retarded small LL's until a year after TWWH3 comes out.
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>>230782938
>>230783007
>>230783020
New Rule.
Only add women who show their tummies/feet.
I don't even like feet
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wtf how dare you guys nitpick CA, you should be sucking their dicks for the chance to pay 18.99 USD plus tip!!! This is how you sound faggot
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>>230780201
Old world sucks
It's. Literally the most meme factions in basic fantasy
>hurr durr humans
>huurppp derp orcs
>haha lol welves
>heh OC badguy army with spikes and black armorrr
>short racist Jew stereotypes
>another human faction but on horses LOL
>vikingzzz
At least half the races in warhammer 2 aren't ripoff fantasy tropes that have been done a million times before
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>>230782265
Based retarded pepe poster
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>>230783212
waah waah women! this is how you sound faggot
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>>230782797
>I know you're from /co/ because you make the same faggot excuses they do when called on your bullshit- "y-you don't actually read the source material!"
So you've played Dreadfleet TT extensively and read the ET novels?
>No the purpose of LLs is that they come from a specific group- in this case undead pirates- and are chosen to represent that group
Right, and we have Luthor Harkon, Noctilus and the Silver Princess representing vampires. Drekla is a generic nobody who doesn't represent anything. If you put even a smidgeon of thought into it you may realize that LLs are obviously geared towards having a little variation.
>you sycophantic subhuman slime
>You're literally wriggling like a fucking bug
Jesus Christ, are you one of those ultra-autists that genuinely can't be part of society and have to be put in special care homes? I worked at one of those places for awhile, saw some pretty fantastic spergouts.
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>>230782742
Lol I see you too are a highborn man of git gud Leg/Leg Empire runs.
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>>230782468
Nothing
It's a dead setting
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>>230783349
>WHY IS EMPIRE CAMPAIGN SO HARD FOR ME
>I know, I'll mod it so the campaign is easier on all difficulties, because my silly ego can't deal with simply adjusting the campaign difficulty like some filthy casual
C'mon man.
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>>230782023
Human pirate with an undead vampire roster is a jump the shark moment for CA's implementation of the Warhammer world.
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>When there is a woman in your fantasy toy soldier game.
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keep playing games on the lowest difficulty
see how far you get in life
While you're trying to take strolls through life, I'm pushing boundaries, actually thinking, planning, outplaying artificial intelligence built solely to outsmart and defeat human players with my superior intellect.
I know how to use my mind, the greatest weapon evolution has ever created, a brain capable of coming up with not just how to move a mountain but a reason why or the ability to move that fucking mountain "just because you can."
I sometimes laugh to myself at night (the human mind's Eucradian Rhythm has shown humans perform better mentally at night, likely due to an evolutionary holdover from needing to think quickly to survive when outside the safety of the pack/camp/tribe as night predators came out)
and think about how stupid most of humanity is. If you give this game and put an easily winnable battle infront of the average person, they wont have the intellect and creativity to examine the situation and then create even the simplest plan to win.
I've seen so many friends that insisted on never using their units how they should be used, and lose the battle as a result. They bitch, they whine, I try to teach them in every battle by punishing them when they make a mistake, but their simple minds only closed themselves off and came to resent both I and the Tactical Sandbox game that is Total War.
You've already taken the steps to become a greater human than the average sample of the entire species. Don't make the same mistake the people I once thought were friends did, push your boundaries and play every battle like your life depends on it.
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>>230783314
it's not even about women you idiot
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>>230782467
You mean pessimistic. I fully expect CA to shove every female character they can find no matter how inappropriate into every DLC now because why? Because fuck you that's why. But I also expect them not to make anything truly great.

This DLC is good only on the basis of Harkon and Vampire Pirates, if not for those elements CA would have already ruined it. The future is incredibly bleak my friend.
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>>230783501
God I wish there were undead sharks.
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>>230782306
Amazons are a sexist power-fantasy depiction of women made by white males. Literally bunch of waifus in armored bikinis. Can't get more disgusting than that.
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>>230783181
Im fucking triggered there isnt a Grom Da Paunch DLC yet. Ulthuan is boring as fuck, Orcs are boring as fuck. Only Sneaky Schemer is the fun one.
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I unironically prefer the vortex campaign to mortal empires even though I have an SSD
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>>230783495
MAYBE I DONT WANT TO WASTE ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY TURNS TRYINH TO WRASSLE MY RETARDED PROVINCES WHILE FIGHTING THE ENTIRE WORLD OFF
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>>230783647
Me too
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>>230783683
Why don't you
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>>230783683
Then why the fuck are you playing Empire, go play High Elves
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>>230783683
Then play a different faction you brainlet
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>>230783643
I would be fine with more Elf dlc. They're actually fun and cool factions and not boring shit like lizards and rattos. I just don't think there's any new units to add to the elves though.
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where are my constructions, how am i suposed to make money now, what is this mod
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>>230782637
No! I want a single model monstrous unit!
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>>230783647
I have a super fast SSD, I would rather blink and Miss the end turn timers then sit down for 20 seconds board. in 200 turns that 20 secconds turns into 66 mins
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>>230783794
Did the mod apply the "Screen splashed with charcoal" filter?
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I want to KISS High Queen Khalida on her cute mummified lips as I pump her ancient womb full of my cum, while she calls me a good boy!
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>>230783619
>No elspeth von draken because big tittie goth girls are a fetish
>no amazons because musclegirls are a fetish
>only literal amputees and bald chicks because disgusting manpigs can't beat their meat to that

Or can we
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>>230783794
Did you deepfry warhammer?
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>>230783868
how fast do battles load for you?
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>>230783683
EASY MODE, EASY MODE, EASY MODE FOR BRAAINLEEETS!
It's just a fucking game mate, if harder diplomacy is boring to you, just start an easier difficulty campaign. You can still play the battles on harder difficulties. It's not a big deal, don't let the "casuals should die" memes get to you.
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>>230783289
Games workshop, when first making their game originally intended to more or less have it be a prototype for selling off their idea to LOTR estate
however when that didn't happen they turned their investment around and while wholly unoriginal (90% of the old OLD army book stuff is really atrocious) they turned it into their own thing. (which over time did have a few original gems in it, their depiction of orks is rather popular. Tomb kings, lizardmen and their chaos lore was also very well done.
oddly enough it took the rising popularity of 40K to sell the idea to tolkein estate and 2001 marked an actual rendition
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>>230783683
Once you've got Marienburger under your control beating up those other nerds is pretty easy
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>>230783910
>Getting a Circumcision on the dry skin on the first thrust.
sounds lovely.
>>230783932
10 seconds or so.
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>>230783828
That'd be the skin wolf hero.
>>230783913
>>only literal amputees
>implying that's not my fetish
Outplayed, CA!
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>>230783868
I just alt tab to convert a screenshot to .jpg and post about my current campaign or shitpost inbetween turns. By the time I made the post the turn will usually be done as long as some dickhead didn't send me a diplomatic offer.
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>>230783289
>>230783957
Bretonnians originally had cannons. They just became horsefuckers over time as GW flanderized them and then forgot about them
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>>230784087
I too, have learned that they can't run without legs.
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>>230783913
>literal amputees
>disgusting manpigs can't beat their meat to that
ever been to a booru or sadpanda
>>230783957
>however when that didn't happen they turned their investment around and while wholly unoriginal they turned it into their own thing.
where have I seen this one before
does that count as karma
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>>230784038
Could a lot of lotion fix that problem?
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This bastard is holding the key to true torment but fuck this army comp I'm not touching that
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>>230783501
And it wasnt Helmet Ghost, the most retarded villain ever in Sigmar's Blood whose specialty was using a book of magical crib notes? As opposed to another VC like Konrad or their buddy Walach Harkon?
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STILL surprised nobody made a rename anyone mod.

I want to play as Pepemundi.
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>>230784426
cringe.
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>>230784337

fug
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>>230783914
mmmmmm, Deep fried WalrusHamster.
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>>230779623
can you fags grow up and stop removing info from the OP
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>>230782618
Probably subbed her in as the B option instead of an Araby pirate after the decision to cut the scope. She'll get the same treatment of a single unit of Arab-reskins eg. zombies with fez hats and scimitars or something.
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>>230784510
>cheating
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>>230784252
reminder that if they got to do their game as LOTR there would be no 40K

what a strange twist of fate
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>>230784160
I like old Brettonia that couldnt use gunpowder because the peasants mowed down the fucking knights charging and then ran to Helmgart to taste the sweet air of Empire freedom.
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now that i have destroyed the dwarfs and the complete control of the province i can now go to helmgart
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>>230784640
>zombies with fez hats
Take all of my money.
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Beautiful Aranessa Saltspite mod WHEN?
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I actually liked the handwaved excuse as to why Arenessa has Undead units.
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>>230784853
Yeah I mean it's not optimal, but I prefer it to her just turning up as undead herself.
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>>230779715
Wait, VCs are getting a rework too? Is anything confirmed for it so far?
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>>230782023
I'm just tired of CA constantly fucking up the LLs which are arguably one of the most important parts of the game when it comes to giving the players choice. I'm annoyed we lost out on the possibility of either Thanquol or Ikit Claw (we will only get one now, not both) just so we could have Tretch. I'm annoyed we lost out on Taurox, Jabberslythes and Ghorgons so we could have that retarded campaign. I'm annoyed we lost out on Bohemond Beastslayer just so we could have generic as fuck Alberic.

Aranessa's face is overtly masculine, you could take it and put in on a man's body and it would actually look better.

The silhouette of the Silver Princess made her chunky/chubby for no reason. Total War isn't the game where we need to be pushing fat acceptance.

We aren't getting Drekla or Vangheist so we can get these two obscure chucklefucks instead. If they didn't want to put in the effort with Aranessa, they shouldn't have included her.

She looks like a man and her inclusion makes little sense lore-wise. Even Skretch Half-Dead would've made more sense if they gave him some Skaven units in addition to the Zombie Pirates.
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>>230783175
Umm that's what women in the heat of physical action look like sweetie.
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>>230784948
Your only complaints about the women are literally that they aren't hot enough, you fucking disgrace.
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>>230784948

Really if they just took away the resting bitch face, Aranessa would improve by like 50%.

I totally agree with Vangheist though it boggles my mind why they wouldn't include a ghost pirate if they're doing undead pirates. Like you could even have given him the Belegar treatment with some of his units and make them ghostly as well. Shit he's even got a literal ghost ship. It's the perfect fucking angle with a haunted undead seas type theme, but no CA skips him over.
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>>230784948
All the tools are going to be there for you to fix it with mods man, there is no sense getting upset over the pointless failures of corporate entities or lazy devs, you have to remember that companies with passion and care for the work are long gone, only autistic modders remain. We live in our own little end times, the promise of a games industry crash looming ever closer, but who knows if what comes after that will be what we wanted?
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>>230785149
Isn't Vangheist just gonna be the FLC?
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>>230784948
Hey fuck you, there's plenty of great and better Bretonnians but Alberic is great. Especially now with more seas content.
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...and of course, how could I forget the poster child of unwanted/unnecessary LL inclusions at the cost of better/more relevant characters, Helman Ghorst.

We lost out on the possibility of Konrad von Carstein, Neferata, Abhorash, Ushoran, and Zacharias the Everliving just so we could have fucking Helman Ghorst.

Get your shit together CA.
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>>230785232
FLC is for everyone right? Why would they make FLC LL who uses units from the DLC? Nobody would buy the DLC if they could just play as Vangheist and get the whole roster already.
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>>230785232
FLC will be a lord for one of the vanilla WH2 factions.
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>>230785391
Morghur was added to beastmen later
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>>230785210
>the promise of a games industry crash looming ever closer
What? Why?
>>230785261
More like there aren't any good Bretonnians at all. Louen was an obvious choice, but he's duller than hell in all ways. The Enchantress was good since we needed caster LLs for WH1. The rest are blander than the Elector Counts.
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>>230785449
a lizard man
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>>230785232
the FLC roadmap shows dark elf architecture. Unless CA pulls a massive bait and switch, we know it's at least gonna be a delf
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>>230785387
We just have to wait for them to put out Helga Ghorst (Sister) Hidegarde Ghorst (Niece) Fester Ghorst (Uncle) and Gertrude Ghorst (gran gran)
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>>230785387
>Neferata, Abhorash, Ushoran, and Zacharias the Everliving
How the fuck would you in any way tie those to some stinking Empire outback under Mannlet von Baldstein?
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>>230785553
thats a jungle
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>>230785519
I hope so. Would make sense to make it whatever Lizardmen lord is going to start in Itza, so VP have a real Lizardmen faction to fight.
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>>230785553
they've changed this so many times, how are you taking their roadmap seriously anymore?
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>>230785553
Da Fug.
We only have 2 scaly bois
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>>230785618
I don't remember any lord being released after the bone giant.
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>>230785476
Marketing Costs inflating the cost of games development more then the market can handle forcing companies to seek new forms of revenue. Dlc, Micro-transactions, Gambling. When the big boys take a few hits it might get them out of business, trust in the industry plummets and investors back out.
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>>230785553
If this image is anything to go by then it is 100% going to be a Lizardman lord.
>Lush jungle
>stepped-pyramid structure
>Shooting a light beam into the sky that isn't even obscured by the fog
How could that possibly be DE?
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>>230784343
Ghorst was their first substantive DLC and did raise questions of CA's direction, but they deserved confidence after the next lord pack introduced thematic faction gobbos & ghost dwarfs.
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>>230785653
Gor-Rok or Nakai will probably be FLC for Lizard&Rat DLC like Alith was for Queen and Crone
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>>230785814
I guess that checks out.
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>>230785734
People have been saying this for like 20 years now, at least. You might not be as smart as you think you are.
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>>230785553
Oh jesus christ is this really how short the roadmap is? Compared to the first game's one lol
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>>230785784
Wait was Ghost seriously the first DLC? I always assumed it was one of the last ones they just shat out while wholly focused on WH2.
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>>230785734
Not gonna happen. Maybe a company or two take some hits, but thinking vidya gaming will crash is like thinking movies or music is going to crash. People aren't going to stop paying for video games, and they aren't going to stop making them either.
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I hope lizards and rats never get DLC. It bring me great joy to watch them scream in displeasure and agony.
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>>230785962
Do you even play these games?
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>>230785994
t. Teclis
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>>230785814
Hmmmmmmm.
Maybe....
Most likely not though
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>>230784343
Well let's think for a minute

-Campaign Packs are 18,99
-Campaign packs cost 18,99 because the four Lords (allegedly) make up this cost

Therefore one would expect in a DLC about undead pirates, the LLs would all be undead pirates mentioned in the lore right? WRONG!

-silver princess is NOT A PIRATE
-aranessa is not undead

So you're saying that we shouldn't be skeptical of the fact that CA is charging 18,99 for four legendary lords of which one isn't actually legendary (even by the standards we're working with the silver princess is exceptionally "literalwho" tier) and one is more suited to be part of the Dogs of War LL roster than ever be caught leading undead

>Konrad

He sucks and no one cares about him, also having a VC lord who can't use magic would basically negate the advantage the undead normally get from regeneration and that would be boring
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>>230785929
The thing about predicting market trends is that things shift over time and timescales change but trends always lead somewhere, the 2008 crysis was predicted to happen around 2002, I think putting a timeline on things is stupid but we can all see that the cost to produce games is growing massively while the cost to make games and the cost to buy games is almost the same, this is a problem.
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>>230785473
Ok that's fine sure but Morghur was added later. The FLC coming when the DLC drops isn't going to be related to the DLC faction itself which is dropping.

Also being realistic, I doubt when you've got major player teams like High Elves and Dark Elves and Skaven and Lizardmen with 4 LLs or less, it seems foolish to think that minor Vampirates would get any FLC LL at all much less another when they at launch have 4 to begin with, more than some major factions already.

It's a shame, but it's probably unrealistic to expect that there would be any more content to go along with the Vampirates for at least a very long time, if ever.
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>>230785814
Gor-Rok would be absolute shit, he's just a stronger generic Saurus. Nakai would potentially be another Throgg.
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>>230786096
not the first one and not as fucking ghort
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>>230785653
>>230785773
>>230785814
I'm expected the Skaven vs Lizardmen pack to be either Ikit Claw and Tehenhauin or Thanquol and Tehenhauin. Tehenhauin already has a massive hateboner for Skaven as part of his character and it would give the Lizardmen a Skink LL.

I hope Nakai is the FLC LL for Lizardmen so we can have all the Lizardmen castes represented but I could see CA doing Gor-Rok just because it is easier since he is essentially a re-skin of Kroq-Gar.
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>>230786261
Nakai would need to be a Horde faction though. I don't see them doing that much work for a free lord.
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nakai is just gonna be like the green knight. summonable hero for a few turns.
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>>230786175
>-silver princess is NOT A PIRATE
GW says otherwise, given that they green-lighted this. She has barely any lore, resides in a pirate town, and now there's a huge pirate prize to be claimed. So she's a pirate now.
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>>230786160
What does that change though? A lot of the LLs have fought/killed each other in the plot.

>>230786261
>>230786261
I hope for Nakai too and it would make sense to have 1 LL for Slann, Kroxigor, Saurus and Skink each. But then CA seems to like to pull one of the lords out of nowhere and surprise us all with someone massively disappointing which is why I guess Gor-Rok.

>>230786374
Not necessarily, he's basically lizard Grombrindal and he has normal cities.
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>>230785929
Ron Paul has predicted 15 of the last 2 recessions

>>230785261
Alberic as a LL choice feels strongly like CA thought "we'll get around to fleshing out combat at sea someday" and then it took them an entire year and a half to do what a modder did in his basement for free.

>>230785595
>>230785387
Don't forget that CA could have added Neferata free at any time in the past year since Khalida got in, but instead spent their resources modeling the Silver Princess for reasons known only to them.
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>>230785106
Beauty is the most important virtue.
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>Name all of my lords after family members (closest members get names first)
>Name all of my Troops (1st (Province Name) (Unit Type))
>Quit playing when a lord gets stack wiped.
I hate this.
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>>230786374
No he wouldn't, Kroq-Gar is a dumb combat machine who doesn't command any city building but that doesn't stop him from being a LL for a settled faction.
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>>230786521
>A lot of the LLs have fought/killed each other in the plot.
That's why I said most likely not.
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>>230786415
>she has no lore
>so it's fine we can pretend she's a pirate now

OH WELL THAT MAKES IT SO MUCH BETTER

Oh wait it doesn't, you mindless drone faggot

18,99 for a literalwho who has been grandfathered in as a pirate by GW since they don't give a single fuck anymore after spacing the entire setting and a multiple amputee manfaced NOT UNDEAD yet still somehow a captain over the undead
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>>230785553
Thematically Lokhir Fellheart makes the most sense, especially since they just added the island on which he found his famous Kraken-faced mask into the Mortal Empires campaign map.

That being said, I believe some people said they found voice acting credits for a guy voicing Malus Darkblade, and Malus is definitely the more famous character given that he has an entire multi-volume book series about him.

Maybe Dark Elves will end up like the Vampire Counts did in TW:WH1 with 5 Legendary Lords? If I had to choose between the two I guess I'd go for Lokhir if only because Malus probably plays a lot like Malekith.
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>>230786642
just don't buy it then genius
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>>230785958
It's much worse too because it has shit like the bone giant, which is dlc content like Morghar, Marauder Horsemasters, Aspiring Champions, and the Feral Manticore, none of which were on WH1's roadmap.
Then there are multiplayer maps taking up there own slot, when they were just an additional blurb on the bottom of WH1's roadmap.
Then you have Mortal Empire, which is the selling point for the entire trilogy, delayed and relegated to FLC like some minor character addition.
Oh and don't forget to thank Intel for the Laboratory, which most people dicked around in for all of 20 minutes before never touching again.
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>>230786582
t. obese neckbeard
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>>230786531
>Alberic as a LL choice feels strongly like...

I don't disagree, but he still fills a role and quite nicely actually, he's my favorite way to play Brets. Louen gets the host of grail knights and gryphons and shit, Morgiana gets peasant mobs, and Alberic is the good middle ground with just normal knights.
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>>230786521
>But then CA seems to like to pull one of the lords out of nowhere and surprise us all with someone massively disappointing which is why I guess Gor-Rok.
Ghorst and who else? I quite like the LLs in this game, lackluster as some early WH1 LLs are.
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>>230785149
Keep in mind also he was skipped over for the Silver Princess, who is an Arabyan. She is one of like only 6 named Arabyan characters. She literally could have been saved for an Araby DLC but they chose to stick her in here. There's no logic behind their decisions at all.
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>>230786709
didn't the WH1 roadmap had blood knights?
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>>230786709
I love how we all told them "we don't want tiny campaign maps!" all though WH1's DLC roadmap and they only got the message when they data mined that NO ONE FUCKING PLAYED THEM. They don't trust a single thing people tell them even if its true.
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>>230786835
They weren't a dlc addition you brainlet. The roadmap only included free content for everyone, not just those who bought dlc.
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>>230786598
>>Name all of my lords after family members (closest members get names first)
u wot
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>>230785929
>>230785734
It's not even a thing any more.
The entire market is built around so called Indie titles now. Yes in terms of overall investment in AAA big publisher shit dwarfs the indie market but the absolute quantitative bulk of the industry is tied to developers with smaller publishers, or no publishers at all. The most we'll see from a crash is the likes of EA and Activision having to cut studios, IP's, and employees to stay afloat, that flood of content and talent in the marketplace at large would then surge into "indie" games and studios or likewise could be gobbled up by the big corporations less impacted by the shitty decisions of EA and activision.
Marketing costs also don't mean shit anymore when you have streamers and youtubers with millions of followers between them that can market your game for you and all you need to do is hand them a key. The old media of review magazines are dead, and everyone knows metacritic is a meme. All that matters is
>does this streamer/youtuber like the game
>does he do a good job selling it to his community
There's nothing about dlc/microtransactions/gambling/etc offsetting increasing marketing costs, it's all about the sheer greed of being able to nickel and dime a market with the disposable income, and lack of self awareness to allow it, or self control to prevent it.
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>>230786679
CA came out and said flat out the voice acting thing for malus was false, and they kept quiet when alith anar was found out. Also the IMDB pages can be edited for anyone, but then we are talking about CA which is ran be retards so it wouldn't surprise me if we got malus instead of lokhir.
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>>230786783
Tretch and Alberic, Malus is TBD
I like Tretch though
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>>230786642
>18,99 for a literalwho
... and for Harkon and Noctilus and the new campaign mechanics and unit roster. Try using your brain instead of going full Moral Outrage over petty shit.
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>>230785387
Zach is the boss of the Amulet of Sea Gold quest.
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>>230786415
Given that there were other more readily available options (even if they explicitly wanted a spellcaster LL), CA's choice to include this character as a Vampire Coast LL seems to weigh heavily on the fact that she is a female lore character.

It sets a bad precedent if we signal that we're okay with losing out on major characters for a faction if it means including another character with a vagina.

Characters should be included because they are interesting, relevant, and popular. The Silver Princess is none of these things. She is basically just discount Neferata.
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>>230786930
>>wow you like hot girls you fucking incel freak
I like hot girls too, anon. The difference is that I don't need every fictional woman to be a bombshell.
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>>230787049
>... and for Harkon and Noctilus and the new campaign mechanics and unit roster. Try using your brain instead of going full Moral Outrage over petty shit.

And if it was only Harkon and Noctilus it would be a race pack like Norsca and only cost 8,99 you semen-slurping homosexual

>b-but they gave you mechanics!

What kind of faggot moron thinks that I should thank a company because they did the bare minimum of work to make a product?
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>>230786930
Yeah its Vampire Coast buddy its not going to have your LEGENDARY lords that go full super saiyan in AoS, just don't buy it if you don't like it.
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>>230785962
Click STUFF links in these threads anon
>Feeling grim feeling grave?
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>>230787030
Nah Tretch at least has a tabletop model.
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>>230787030
Tretch is fun, Alberic is, well, Bretonnia is filled to the brim with boring shitters like him. Grace has flat-out denied the Malus leak.
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>>230787168
I do like the whole "Fuck corporations they deserve no respect" angle, and I agree with you, but I actually like Saltspite and i like her Arty playstyle, I don't think its an objective fact that its a waste of a DLC.
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>>230787234
This is weak bait and you should feel ashamed
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It's funny watching this autistic sperglord's posts disappear all the time, but why? Are they deleted? Is he ban-evading furiously?
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lads I'm starting to get worried. What if the dark elf free lord ISN'T Lokhir or Malus? Are there any other notable female dark elves?
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I really, really wish these stupid fucking vikings would stop trying to cross the goddamn rhine
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>tfw bulletproof history chad who plays TW:WH
>don't care about the poorly designed world of warhammer with it's cringe lore
>will buy the dlc because i've never known who any of the LL's are
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>>230787364
>They make Lokhir a women.
DO IT CA! DO IT!
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>>230787030
>I like Tretch though
The real question is, do you like Tretch more than Thanquol or Ikit?

I like Tretch too, and I think his starting position is neat. I would've loved Thanquol in the same position instead though.

I'm sad we are going to either lose out on a Warlock-Engineer LL or a Grey Seer LL for the Skaven simply so that we could have another melee LL who is basically a worse version of Queek.
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Threadly reminder that Arch should kill himself and spare us the nontroversial trite that's been plaguing the last several threads.
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>>230787276
If Aranessa was a vampire with new lore that she got undead-ed at the end of dreadfleet that would be fine, and if silver princess wasn't included that would be fine. But CA just dumped a pair of lords which are unsuitable for the purpose of being "undead pirates" into a DLC which is supposed to be about undead pirates.

They don't give a single fuck and the fact that they have DIRECTLY stated that the 18,99 pricetag is based on the number of LLs (Norsca was 8,99 because it only had two LLs) shows that they will literally sell you shit on a platter to justify their inflated prices. At least the Beastman minicampaign was actually about beastmen, the fucking silver princess is a literalwho who isn't even a pirate.
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>>230787254
He still gets complaints for not being Eshin/Moulder like everyone thought we would get though

>>230787256
>trusting grace
I'm mostly meming about Malus but after Coast getting announced instead of DoW like most people thought I just don't know anymore.
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>>230787435
>You're now aware you want a 40k where all the primarchs are women
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>>230787364
Not really, Malekith or Morathi murder anyone who becomes too prominent.
>>230787435
>ESL newfag ends his greentexts with punctuation
Get out.
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>>230787168
>>230786642

ahem mr tantrum incel manbaby, if you are not content with the dlc , you dont need to buy it, mmkay :))
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>>230787532
>now
Wrong, I was aware for years.
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>>230787364
http://warhammerfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Anethra_Helbane
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>>230787451
More than Thanquol, yes immensely.
More than Ikit? No but I think its obvious he'll be the DLC lord because he benefits everything the Skaven roster is currently missing.
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>>230787451
Tretch is way more fun than Queek, if anything he should've been skipped. Who plays Skaven for the infantry line?
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>>230787478
You think its arch? Do you think he is working on a new video about how the women are coming to take his plastic toys away?
>>230787549
>Reflexively add a full-stop when typing quickly
>Get called out on it and now feel self conscious about it.
cunt.
>>230787532
I see you too are a man of taste.
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>>230787435
>they remove malus's phallus
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>>230787364
There's beastlord rakarth. every other notable character is more of a hero than lord though.
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>>230787484
>But CA just dumped a pair of lords which are unsuitable for the purpose of being "undead pirates" into a DLC which is supposed to be about undead pirates.

But anon, how else would they reach their female legendary lord quota? Anything less than 50% representation is sexist, don'tchaknow?
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>230787556
>230787362
>when you're desperately trying to get (You)s but I've gotten wise to your brand of faggotry and have stopped responding

How does it feel to be deprived of what you seek most?
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>>230787364
Hellebron has a sister.
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>>230787429
This except for all the internet tough guy antagonistic parts. I barely know anything about Warhammer Fantasy, and have loved this franchise since I stumbled on Shogun back in middle school at the local EB, but I've never had as much fun playing total war as I have with Warhammer and it's the only one where I've bought up every bit of content they make for it. Those vampire pirates look fuckin' rad.
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>>230787523
>most people
DoWfags are vocal and not "most people," anyone who thought "X marks the spot suggests Sartosa, Sartosa suggests DoW!" was reaching in the extreme.
>>230787532
I want a 40K where all the Primarchs stay mythical and gone for ages. Fuck Spess Muhreen wank, and fuck Primarch wank especially.
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Lokhir and malusbros
united in despair.
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>>230787819
I meant before the teaser came out desu, they seem pretty obvious as they're the ones with an actual army book yet have placeholders in game.
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>>230787586
>shittier spellcaster and combatant than Morathi
>no other notable traits
No thanks.
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>>230787956
>easily reusable assets and skills
>no other notable traits
perfect material for FLC. say something nice to your new Dark Elf LL.
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>>230787397
>same fucking turn
>more vikings out of the fog of war
FUCK OFF
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>>230788008
We already got Hellebron though
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>>230787861
The real question is if CA is so intent on female inclusion why they can't just fucking add Neferata

>have wealth of female characters like Katarin, Elspeth, Neferata among others
>willfully ignore them in favor of literalwhos because fuck the playerbase

Nothing they do seems to make any fucking sense
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>>230787787
>Hellebron has a sister.
Lirieth
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>>230787718
So far the split is 8:41 for women to men in the list of legendary lords, assuming half the pirate lords are female. I feel like /v/ might have a problem with women to be acting this way.
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>>230787804
Being an antagonist is what I live for, internet tough guy on the side. Pretty sure undead pirates are most likely antagonists, so this should be a good one, but hell if I care about the backstory of some bitch with fish for legs.
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>>230788096
Meth is a hell of a drug
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>>230788089
Neferata is probably planned for WH3 as a far western Vampire LL.
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>>230788067
an in depth illustration depicting why exactly I hate norsemen and their fucking javelins so much. This is the primary point of defense in this settlement layout, and ai javelins are free to lob their shots into my pikemen/troops while they are engaged in melee, which is why my casualties are so high
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>>230788236
east my dude
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>>230787484
You're saying this like you wouldn't have also endlessly complained if they released the DLC with only two Lords. The salt would be unreal.
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>>230788278
Not if WH3 takes place east of the World's Edge Mountains.
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>>230788263
fight vs the geats came down to the palatina in shield wall holding off the last of the enemy melee troops
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>>230788343
But Neferata wouldn't be around to be a LL until Mortal Empires 2 since Counts are an old faction
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>>230786301
Dude Itza has the Golden Deathmask of Lord Kroak as their banner, i.e. the most powerful mage in Warhammer. CA would be insane passing up the nuke toad.

Hyper obvious the FLC will have Relic Priests for all and THE Relic Priest for LL.
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>>230788152
A certain someone wasn't promoted to lead within CA until this year. Since then it's been 5 female LLs to 7 male LLs. No complaints from me about more Elf girls tho.
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>>230788263
So your point of contention is that you can't just plop a spearwall down in a chokepoint and watch the enemy die against it? Where's your archers to out-range them? Where's your cavalry to flank them? Why are you trying to cover the primary front on your battlefield with one unit?
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>>230788263
What if you eschew the sloped terrain and let their melee ascend up to box them in on flat terrain? Can their javelins still reach your troops from down there?
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thank you throgg
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>>230788430
She's not part of the Vampire Counts in any shape or form.
>>230788584
BEYOND!
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Do any lorefags know how the diplomatic relations of the Vampire Coast stands with the Vampire Counts? Are they chummy? Or estranged? Or neutral?

Noctilis is technically a Von Carstein so maybe there is some ancestral kinship there but Harkon just does his own thing.
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>>230786531
Silver Pinnacle is reachable via Karak Vlag. Karak Vlag is ingame but area denied, obvious game 3 VC faction is obvious.
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>>230788402
quite the carpet however

>>230788452
its 6k+ vs 2k anon, archers run out of ammo, and when you get over 40 enemy units the reinforcment system doesn't allow you to have cav actively working in the enemy rear until the very end of the battle as more cav/spears are constantly trickling in
>why am I using just one unit in a chokepoint
because that is how chokepoints work, and pouring more in there = more jav bait

>>230788526
might be worth a try, but I'm just going to upgrade the settlement to see if the battlemap gets any better for my particular usage
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>>230788661
They have little to do with one another, the main von Carsteins are lurking in the east Empire looking towards Altdorf. Noctilus is a von Carstein, but he's got nothing much to do with Sylvania anymore. Harkon is as old as Vlad and probably haven't met since Lahmia fell.
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>>230788584
Be honest though, that army comp could be devastating in the right hands. It's basically the mongols.
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>>230788657
Lol she's literally part of the VC army list
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>>230788875
Because there's no interactive campaign map for the tabletop, anon.
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>>230788834
Well, being vampires my assumption is that they would have eyes and ears in all other vampire courts the world over. Manfred was notorious for his network of spies and vampire sireling thralls. He would love to exert influence over Noctilis and have him lay siege to Marienburg to distract the empire's forces or something. He ended up doing something exactly like this in the end times.
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>>230783289
Maybe because they were one of the first ones to create those tropes.
Where do you think Green Orcs come from?
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>>230787451
Skaven will have five lords minimum. Clan Moulder and Skavenblight are unique cities. Throt is fucking retarded and Thanqols love of Bonerippers are a good replacement. Ikit in Skavenblight, Thanquol in Hellpit.
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>>230788836
They honestly did fuck me up but that was because I accidentally seleted all my units to attack one unit and fucked up my formation

Also praise be to the artillery god webm
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>>230788340
>haha dude you might be mad they're charging double the price because they included two lords that aren't undead pirates to a DLC about undead pirates, but you'd also complain if they charged only half the price for having only half the lords

Somehow I don't follow your logic
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>>230788997
>in the End Times
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>>230788982
GW literally sold these hexagonal map things you could paint and model into your own maps though, I remember 10 years ago I wanted to model the whole warhams world that way but got bored of painting.

>spent almost 300 bucks on brets, welfs and ogors
>never finished painting any of them

The moral of the story is not to give teenagers a lot of money. I did end up painting all my Grey Knights in solid thick silver paint, with blue eyes.
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>>230789189
Just don't buy it man
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>>230784948
Who gives a fuck, she's a mutant norscan fish person I dont give a rats ass if she looks like a dude, she looks ugly in the lore. You fucking waifu faggots are fucking cancer jesus fucking christ
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>>230789102
Didn't the datamined info show that the planned lord was from some other clan though, eshin I think?
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>>230788340
what a retarded post. Vamp Coast doesn't require 4 lls and if it only came with 2 at a lower price point nobody would care
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>>230789303
Damn, at least you didn't sink too much into it before you got out.
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>>230789448
I would care
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>>230788834
>Harkon as old as Vlad

Nigga you are thinking of Abhorash. Harkon is a fucking Brettonian. Humans didnt even exist that far north back then.
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>>230789335
Can't say no to the smile. I can however point out the sheer idiocy and injustice of CA's policy while worrying that the inclusion of an Arabyan lord might cuck Araby out of their rightful place in the sun in the future.

>>230789383
Not many pictures of Aranessa but none of them have her with Grace's manface
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>>230789410
Eshin cant field lords their dudes have a rule that prevents them from leading in return for FUCKING YOUR SHIT UP when you reveal them. They are the only major clan left besides Moulder and Skyre/Seer Council.
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>>230789472
Pretty sure each Grey Knight terminator was like 10 bucks for a single one. The Land Raider I got for Christmas though. That was good.

The real question is where all my money went AFTER that. I graduated HS with 2000 dollars in the bankaroo and just 2 years later it shrunk to only around 300. What did I do with all that cash, I have no idea.
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>>230789448
And we wouldn't have a fleshed out roster with non of the awesome forgeworld stuff you nitwit. Stop falseflagging Dogs of War cunt
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>>230789745
Yeah but some anon said the datamined info showed an eshin assassin as the lord.

>the lore

CA doesn't care about that
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>>230789751
are you fucking daft?
>don't have to spend the time/resources on 2 unique lls/start positions
>still get all of the unique units and a fleshed out roster
>don't have to charge same price as tk because only 2 lls
They literally did this already with norsca
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>>230789745
there were special eshin lists that allowed eshin leaders. also had a Lore of Stealth or whatever that they had special not-grey-seer sorcerers for.
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>>230765146
>>230763302
>he likes gay ayy lmao shit
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>>230789995

They don't even price the DLC by the number of LLs. Wood Elves have 2 Lords and is a full $20. Norsca, like Chaos, is cheap because it was offered for free when preordering.
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>>230790212
They do price the DLC by number of LLs. WE and Beastmen are $20 because they also have mini campaigns. They've specifically said that $20 DLCs would have 4 lords going forward instead of mini campaigns.
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>>230789876
Not a lore. Actual rule which CA had been pretty faithful. Snikch is a hero choice only and there is no fucking way CA is putting Nightlord Sneek in because he is hilariously racist.we are talking cracked out suckie suckie five dorrah long green nail fu manchu mustache.

>>230789997
Nobody knows them except the Deathmaster and the Nightlord LL wise. Its not they wouldnt be fun but we are talking niche of a niche faction and having Eshin over Skyre weps or relocated to Hellpit is madness. Those are 10 slots. 100% confirmed LL starting zones.
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>>230787484
At this point I'm less bothered by Silver Princess than Aranessa. Silver Princess you can make the argument that she's the vampiric governor of a pirate haven and therefore could be compared to Luthor and Noct who are basically Admirals/Commodores with fleets at their disposal.

Aranessa feels majorly shoehorned, and I say that as someone who wanted her back when I thought this was just gonna be a general pirate dlc.

I think keep Luthor and Noct, replace Aranessa with Vangheist as an ethereal duelist type lord, and then either Sea Hag or Silver Princess. Even if they're obscure they let you get a caster lord so that's probably worth it vs the alternatives which are Drekla who is incredibly generic and Half-Dead who... well I mean what are you gonna do with him, give him some zombie clanrats?
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arabyyyyy
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>>230790212
They've literally stated that "instead of a minicampaign, you will now get 4 LLs and this will justify the cost of the Campaign Pack"
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>>230789558
He's talking about Luthor Harkon, but Walach Harkon isn't a Bretonnian either.
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>>230779802
I want medusa.
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>>230791021
wow, thats fucking based
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>>230791037
>>230790212
Campaign packs now get one to two spare LLs, more campaign mechanics, and more units instead of a mini-campaign. You're explicitly paying for more fleshed out content. Compare the amount of things in Norsca compared to Tomb Kings, for example: both are solid DLC options, but the campaign pack has way more resources poured into it on the whole.
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>>230780665
Never, she's not a fighter. Elspeth can stand in for her.
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>>230790736
Either way CA has done some really questionable reaching for this DLC, which is salvaged only by the fact that ghost pirates are an almost universally loved trope that you'd have to have shit taste to hate.

The fact that CA will just dump crap on our plates without a care to justify the nearly 20 price tag doesn't bode well for future DLCs like Araby and Dogs of War which also have many lesser-known characters, and leads to the assumption that CA may halfass things in one way or another especially since they seem to only view TWW2 as a piggybank to fund their adventures in chinkland at this point.

The only reason VP, DoW and Araby will sell anyway is because TWW2 is the only place these factions will ever get this much attention now.
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>>230779623
Based OP.
Histcucks OUT
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>>230790208
>He likes boring humans with spiky ears
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>>230791230
Okay what did Tomb Kings have that Norsca didn't, keeping in mind that CA has literally stated "you will now get 4 lords with 4 starting positions instead of 2 lords and a minicampaign and it'll be the same price".

Also keep in mind that Ariel and Taurox will never be in game because that would negate their retarded policies.

>a settra vs. arkhan minicampaign actually would have been fun

It's amazing how even when they succeed, they still fuck up
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>>230789189
>it's a scam ripping you off half the of the cost because two of LLs aren't undead
Wow, this is even more retarded than the anons mad that it was vampires.
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>>230791419
I can still enjoy the dlc, I just think Aranessa is a big misstep when there's obvious alternatives. I'm more forgiving of them pulling someone out of their ass if they wanted a dedicated caster for their new lore of magic. Probably won't play Aranessa though, which is a shame because I do like her, she just doesn't fit at all.
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>>230791556
I like em round
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Anybody want to be my Total War gamer bro
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Will these sortie out if I just encircle? Assaulting the walls looks like it's going to suck incredible amounts of dick.
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>>230790539
>>230791037
Okay, but the option to have half off the asking price for less content was never on the table.
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>>230791702
based
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>>230791909
AI never sallies out ever, even when the gate is dead. They sometimes will chase you outside but that's it.

I really wish the AI would sneak cavalry out of any gates that are not being attacked/guarded.
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>>230791419

>The fact that CA will just dump crap on our plates without a care to justify the nearly 20 price tag doesn't bode well for future DLCs like Araby and Dogs of War which also have many lesser-known characters, and leads to the assumption that CA may halfass things in one way or another
This
>especially since they seem to only view TWW2 as a piggybank to fund their adventures in chinkland at this point.
FUCKING THIS. I feel like the CEO is a butthurt autist that is getting mad nobody is playing his retarded games anymore and keeps insisting WH is just a phase when CA is fucking done as a profitable company because they constantly cut corners. It took Rome 2 until this year to get more features than S2.
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ALRIGHT BITCHES WHERE'S THE ROLLCHART FOR THRONES OF BRITANNIA
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>>230791909
At a gate? No way. Send your tree people in through the gate to tie up their melee forces and send your spears over the wall to clear away the archers, and fire down on whatever is left on the ground.
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>>230791909
It is incredibly painful with no AP for those Black Guard and your arrows sucking against people on battlements. Though it is easier if you remember the bigger tree dudes can knock the gate down, unlike myself.

I'm not sure I've seen a garrison attack me from a gate specifically, but sometimes they will in a walled city if they think they can win. Can always try to camp there for 10 turns but I imagine they'll get reinforcements by then.
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>>230791909
maybe. I've been playing with advanced AI and the AI usually sallies around even balance or better
>>230792029
I think he means the AI attacks onto an open field battle
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>>230787109
I like her desu, I want to reunite her with her husbando. I wish she used a mix of vampirate and vamp count units.
>>230791556
Yes I do. Making them look like ayy lmaos won't somehow make them more interesting.
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>>230791909
Since when can you encircle gate settlements?
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>>230792157
Roll a six sided die, then play sea kings because all the other factions suck
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>>230791578
>Norsca
>2 LLs which are new models on old skeletons
>every last thing uses the same skelton and sometimes the same exact model of another unit (Fimir use assets meant for Kroxigors, Skin Wolves use Striogi assets) with the sole exclusion of mammoths
>only new mechanics are the god totems (settlement raze option) and Monstrous Arcanum (a few quest battles)

>Tomb Kings
>Lore of Nehekhara
>4 LLs
>new models, skeletons, and animations for a large number of units (Ushabti, Necrolith Colossi, Heirotitan, Necrosphinx, Warsphinx, Tomb Scorpion, Sepulchral Stalkers, Necropolis Knights, Liche Priests, Necrotects)
>Lore of Nehekhara
>cutscenes
>Great Incantations (rites)
>new mechanics include the debut of a crafting system (Mortuary Cult), the Books of Nagash, armies not having upkeep, and recruit limits for certain units
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>>230791835
co-op or versus idc, just need someone to play with
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>>230792157
GUESS I GOTTA DO IT MYSELF

SLAVING VIKING SHITS 01 - 09
ISLAND VIKING SHITS 10 - 19
EASTIE VIKING SHITS 20 - 29
NORTHIE VIKING SHITS 30 - 39
ANGLO SAXON DOGS 40 - 49
ANGLO SAXON DOGS BUT BLUE 50 - 59
SPEAR WELSH 60 - 69
HORSE WELSH 70 - 79
SCOTCH TAPE 80 - 89
MEAD 90 -98

DOUBLES = GIVE UP AND PLAY KHATEP IN TWAMMER

00 = I DON'T KNOW IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN
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>>230792461
Then Norsca took more dev time than Tomb Kings because of poor forward thinking on CAs part.
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>>230787586
Not bad. I think it will be Lokhir unless they somehow pre made Malus before but then decided to go with pirate theme dlc and it's to late to change anything,.
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>>230792592
OIRLANDGHAH FUCKING JAVS N GALLOWGLASSES THAT ARE AHISTORICAL ERE WE GO
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>>230792349
Not sure, but I'm pretty sure it was an option on there.

>>230792203
>>230792208
>>230792216
Alright, just gonna have to push in. Hopefully throwing an overcast earth blood on my Dryads will help them soak up the majority of the fire as everyone advances.
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I'm positive that the Warhammer series will be the last time CA will see a lot of money come in their pockets.
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>>230792716
They will just make WH3 DLC until the end of time. They'll eventually release DLC that brings old races up to WH3 DLC quality (which is going to be even better then WH2 DLC). Then 10 years or so down the road when they have updated every old race, they will have picked up a few new tricks, and then be able to redo all the factions all over again, creating an endless DLC cycle.
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>>230792716
I'm positive you're basing this prediction on your own /v/-worthy opinions and not on any actual understanding of what will sell.
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>>230792716
then you're an idiot. they have the GW IP, they'll make Age of Sigmar once they've milked this dry.
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>>230792387
I JUST PLAYED AS SUDREYAR AND FOUND OUT THEIR FINAL KINGDOM NAME IS THE GAF 'NORSE GAELIC SEA' WHICH IS LAZY AS HELL

AT LEAST FLANN STARTS WITH A MONASTERY SO THAT'S NICE.

I WAS THINKING OF ACTUALLY DOING AN AAR OF THIS SHIT BUT HONESTLY I'M BORED ALREADY JUST LOOKING AT THIS.
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>>230792940
Eh, they might make it a bit more tolerable. The sigmarnies are still fucking stupid though.
The main problem, would be going from WH3 with all it's DLC (which will be what like 23 factions?) down to a fresh new games 4.
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>>230793086
>WHICH IS LAZY AS HELL
thats ThroB as a whole. Lazy cash grab.
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test
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>>230792940
Only Warhammer IP. They would need to buy all of the licenses from Age of Sigmar if they want to do the same like with Warhammer Fantasy.
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>>230792940
no way GW will let them make an AoS game right now, that would take away from miniature sales. Who would fucking pay hundreds for models and dozens for paint and rules when they could just pay 20 dollars for the whole roster? Warhammer TW worked because it's not competing with GW's sales .
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>>230792716
Its already happening. Thrones was alot of fucking money that couldve went into WH. More people play Attila than Thrones.Who the fuck even preordered Chink Kingdoms? I have Dynasty Warriors 2-8 plus the Xtreme Legends expansion packs and Empires games and even I havent looked at it as soon as I saw it didnt have matched combat. Im not going to watch a duel when my army is on fire. CA is fucking moronic. It bugs me in Warhammer but at least theres monsters.

I literally cant tell the difference between units and everyone looks the same unit wise. Its a tall order expecting me to give a shit about Tiger Retard Cav of the East's bonuses to Downward Dog Raiders when the only difference is their cape and armor color.

Im super happy that anytime Grace farts out a Warhammer meme the sub and forums drown anything else out.
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>>230792940
If I wanted a Sigmarines game Id fire up DoW1. Do
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>>230793464
Who's Grace?
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>>230793464
"money that could've went into WH"
Confirmed for having no idea how the industry actually works. You should stop before you dig yourself deeper.
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>>230793595
>falling for the multiple teams meme
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So does Aranessa only get reskinned Free Company?
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>Lizardmen still can't terraform one province at a time.
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>>230793689
It seems like it, but I imagine modders will be able to quickly port those models over to using carronades and muskets ASAP so that you'll be able to have living crews.
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Did ToB lose money for CA?
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>>230793672
I'm not talking about teams. Sega decides the budget, and they decide it based on what they think will come back with the most profits. They aren't going to just pour all that extra money into one game so /v/ has less things to complain about. Obviously they don't always make the best decisions with the money, but any publisher will use the budget for two games to make two games instead of doubling down on one. Of course this is assuming Thrones was actually a loss, which I sort of doubt even if I had no interest in buying it myself.
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>>230793818
Reskin zombie pirates in to living ones, maybe?
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>>230793834
I doubt it. Sales probably weren't great but it was 90% recycled shit stitched together by a skeleton crew.
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>>230793595
There are twice as many people playing Med 2 right now. Im sure CA will sell sooo many DLC copies and all they did was hurt their historical brand. Again. But please tell me how your retard Vikings sold enough copies to make that worth it seeing how it sold less copies than WH2 players fucking around on Steam that month and how much more money CA has because it split resources off from WH instead of fixing Norsca quicker.
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Calling it now, going to be the comfiest faction in the game. And possibly a real wrecker of Dawi.
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>>230783289
>racist jew stereotypes
>dorfs
are you fucking retarded?
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>>230792272
>Making them look like ayy lmaos won't somehow make them more interesting
Yes it would. Orcs would be more boring if they looked like humans. Lizardmen would be more boring if they looked like humans.
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>>230794159
Calm down, spergo, I already explained my argument. Warhammer is already profitable and successful, so Sega has no real incentive to shower it with extra money to iron out whatever minor issues you're crying about this week. Most indie devs treat their games more like a product than art at the end of the day, Sega sure as hell will too.
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>>230794173
a lot of it comes down to how the hybrid horde mechanics work.
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Do Warhammer girl Dwarfs look like the men or are they wee cuties?
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>>230794512
Depending on source they either have a beard or not.
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>>230794296
>lizardmen and orcs
Those are not even that unique and neither are elves for that matter. And in the case of orcs they just look as oversized, ugly humans. They are same old humanoids.
I would take normal elves over that ayy lmao shit any day.
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>>230794512
I don’t know if they are cuties, as far as I know thanks to these threads they don't look like the males but they are also really low on numbers
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>>230792716
I think they are going to realize that harsh reality once Three Kingdoms comes out and it doesn't get the same reception TW:Warhammer did.

I have no idea why they wasted their time, money, or effort into making Thrones of Britannia. It sold and reviewed extremely poorly.

I have absolutely no problem with CA continuing to make Historical Total War games, but what the fuck, at least put in the effort if you are going to do so. They totally phoned in Thrones of Britannia and it shows. Just because they slapped the "Total War Saga" descriptor on the title doesn't excuse the severe lack of quality.
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>>230794382
How does telling me what CA is obviously doing have anything to do with the fact their historical games are getting fucked.
>you see, CA isnt fucked because they are investing in two games
>nevermind their engine is almost 10 years old, them diversifying into neat barely profitable experiments and not doubling down on the games that have sold more copies than all of their old ones combined for R&D will save CA
>nevermind even WH2 hasnt sold as well as 1 because its obvious CA is phoning it in
Please tell me more wise one.
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>>230794512
dwarf females are their own separate faction, they are called skaven
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So /twg/, do you think we are getting Araby or the Southern Realms/Dogs of War as our last faction DLC for WH2?

Amazons are insanely unlikely unless CA is really adamant about pushing this female representation thing.
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>>230795148
I still want Amazons as a Lizardmen unit.
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>>230794512
Beardless feom what i gather but probably still stoic as fuck, they're pretty high in dawi society.
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>>230779759
gunships are vietnam
airdropping troops is rhodesian

Zimbabwe Zombies
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>>230794810
You're either mixing me up with someone else or just making up what we're arguing about. Someone tried to complain that Sega isn't just pouring all their profits into making Warhammer 2 into the best game ever, and I explained why that's not how it works.

If you want an explanation to whatever you're trying to fight me about now, though, then it would depend on whether or not they actually lost money with the new historical games and dlc, which I personally doubt. I also doubt Warhammer won't be a big success even if 2 didn't sell quite as well as 1, or if 3 doesn't sell quiet as well as 2. They likely won't invest in a new engine, which is a huge and risky undertaking in itself, at least until Warhammer 3 has run its course for a number of reasons. Three Kingdoms could go either way, but again I doubt it won't at least pull a profit, and who knows what they'll do beyond that in the future. At the end of the day, CA going under because you're mad at the new historical content is less likely than them adapting enough to any issues they're going through enough to keep being successful. The fact that such a niche franchise is doing as well as it does without any real competition is probably enough to keep it afloat for a long time.
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>>230781646
Luthor Harkons thing was always giving zombie summoning items to people to form alliances, only the zombie summoning items have the drawback of enslaving the owner after use
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Is the "Aranessa has a vampire first mate" the silliest lore explanation CA has done so far? I just cant get over how this sounds like something out of a silver age comic book.
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>>230782604
I once had Vlad change mesh to Grombrindal, but keep his colour scheme/skin

I wish I still had the screencaps but dead hard drives, what can you do
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I just found out Khatep's ending is identical to Settra's. Lazy CA.
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>>230795585
Pretty much. I think people would have been happier if they'd just turned her into a vampire fish mutant.
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CA is really overreaching at this point.
They need to develop a new engine, and get back to basics for a bit. Medieval 3, Empire 2 should be on the list for next games.
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>>230795626
Their endgame is a 3v1 against arkhan, or a 1v3 against them if you play arkhan

which makes sense, but yeah it's lazy
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>>230795585
I'd say so. They clearly wanted some female legendary lords for the Vampire Coast faction and so they decide to stretch/bend the lore to get them. I'm pretty disappointed but the choices, but eh, at least we get Luthor Harkon and Count Noctilus.
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>>230795769
Anaressa Saltspite is a clear choice for a pirate themed DLC, and I don't see why they'd do two separate pirate DLCs.
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>>230795209
Niels fuck off.
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>>230795683
It'd would've made infinitely more sense, especially with how the dreadfleet lore ended. They could've just said "yeah, you know how her end was left ambiguous? she actually died and got raised by Noctilus but managed to slip his grasp and now seeks vengeance against him for cursing her to unlife."

All they wouldv'e had to change is just making her eyes red like Noctilus and maybe making her skin a bit paler. She even looks somewhat more undead/vampiric in the artwork which makes me think maybe initially they were going to do just that.
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will the pirates DLC be cracked on day1? i will need my pirates
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>>230795830
It is a Vampire Coast themed DLC, not generic pirates. If they can't find a good reason to include a Legendary Lord with a faction, they shouldn't include them. They should not just force specific characters into armies/factions they don't belong simply because "meh, close enough".

I'd rather no Aranessa than half-assed Aranessa.
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>>230795769
>>230795683
Whats puzzling is that Noctilus has Jaego Roths moondial, which assumes this happens after Dreadfleet where Jaego dies. But Aranessa dies there too. You can easily handwave Noctilus being alive because hey hes a vampire and they always return, like Vlad and Isabella who should still be dead right now. Even more questionable is that apparently one of the Dreadfleet writers was on board for this. I expected a better written explanation since CAs other lore justifications for other LLs have been decent so far. This one just sticks out like a sore thumb in comparison.
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>>230796020
It is still the only pirate themed DLC they are going to do, one way or another.
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>>230796059
Does Aranessa die? I thought they left it purposefully ambiguous. I think her ship sinks and the vast majority of her crew dies, but I think her final fate is left somewhat open.

Either way it would've made infinitely more sense for her to have died and been resurrected by Noctilus.
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>>230795931
Even more hilarious when the official art work already implies Aranessa as a zombie/vampire with red eyes but they changed their decision at the last minute
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>>230796074
Okay? You seem to think because a faction has general a pirate theme (amongst other things, like y'know, being undead) Aranessa HAS to be included despite having nothing to do with that faction otherwise.

Aranessa shouldn't have been included if they were going to half-ass it. I don't give a fuck if that means we don't get Aranessa because they don't release a secondary faction of living pirates.
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>>230794391
Well i imagine I'll just get to fuck off, infiltrate a wealthy factions port and grow fat off their work, like a chubby lil leech.
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>>230796020
I would have been happier if they made 3 Vampire Coast Lords and 1 or 2 lords that were pirates for other factions
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>>230796298
I would've loved to have seen Luthor Harkon, Count Noctilus, and Vangheist as Vampire Coast Legendary Lords with Jaego Roth and Aranessa Saltspite as Generic Pirate Legendary Lords.

That would've required CA to actually step their game up though.
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>>230796147
Yes she does. In the final act, she lets go of her clockwork tail that the golden magus gifted her so that it would block the escape hatch behind her when the Chaos Dwarfs submarine was about to explode with its captain chasing after her. Then Aranessa, who was exhausted, feels the eye of the maelstrom pulling her in. As a last defiant act, she swims back to the submarines glass windows where saw the Chaos Dwarf captain trying to break out. She smashes the window with her trident and kills the captain, but without any strength left to swim up she inevitably gets sucked in the grinding mouth of the maelstrom.
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>>230796492
it's a stretch, but it could still happen

I mean I wouldn't expect the Generic Pirate lords to be new factions, just an Empire or Dark Elf LL that gets some but not all of the unique mechanics
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>>230796298
I thought for sure they were going to do a 2/2 split dlc w/ 2 factions @ 2lls/each, with either araby/southern realms or vamp coast/dow. Beef up the price to justify the work on 2 whole rosters and you'd have a home run w/o having to scrounge for lords
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>>230795714
That's not what upset me. I liked that. The tomb kings coming together to slap down Nagash's bitch boy. What I DIDN'T like was the ending cinematic of "blah blah blah reign of flesh is over you'll rule eternal!" bullshit. Ignoring that Settra would rather blow up Nagash's pyramid over using it, Khatep doesn't strike me as the be in charge kind of guy. He wanted redemption, forgiveness, Settra to end his exile, and try to give the eternal life that was promised. No mention of that in the ending cinematic. Which is annoying. Just a change of pictures. Is the voice actor for the advisor so expensive they couldn't have added a throwaway line of "The Mortuary Cult has finally fulfilled its purpose!" or "Khatep, at last you have the forgiveness you long sought" or "Settra is imperishable, and equally as imperishable is his judgement- Khatep once more was banished, his deed of foiling Arkhan meager in the face of his unforgivable crime of failing the king of kings."
Something like that.
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To any modders here, heres a suggestion I think would improve Aranessas looks
-Trim her scrunched eye brows. Her angrish look is literaly her ugliest feature right now
-Smoothen her face and remove the warts and scabs. Maybe copy either Isabella or helf Princess face textures
- Recolor her scales to be pale blue instead of deep green. As it is, she looks like a lizardman mutant than a fish
-Lastly, MAKE HER EYES BLUE. Her fluff repeatedly mentions her beautiful big blue eyes but CA gave her green eyes. What the fuck.
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>>230794604
>He's a delf waifu fag
Should've known.
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>>230795302
>Someone tried to complain that Sega isn't just pouring all their profits into making Warhammer 2 into the best game ever

You are also implying CA is on a healthy course. If China fails to warm up to CA theyre in big trouble. CA is going to fall apart like Westwood.

>lost money with the new historical games and dlc
Niche markets suffer from market fatigue. In related news the tribes are restless: https://www.pcgamer.com/which-game-series-should-take-a-break/
>also doubt Warhammer won't be a big success even if 2 didn't sell quite as well as 1
By all accounts they should be increasing sales as new customers are welcomed and old players are retained, like WoWs expansions. CA wont have another shot at a money printer.

> They likely won't invest in a new engine, which is a huge and risky undertaking in itself
A full DX12 multithreaded game engine takes years, they should have started in R2 like they did with Empire during R1. Its 2018 and DX12 is beta. Nvidia is rolling out 2000 series cards as we speak. CA will pare down features etc down to Arena levels just to ensure that clunky fucking engine works. Fatigued players will also cut down on purchases as a result until the game has meat and TW isnt R1 anymore, it doesnt just sell itself with a wow factor or M2 with mods.

>Three Kingdoms could go either way, but again I doubt it won't at least pull a profit

3k isnt the problem and to be fair if the Chinese eat it up they could do mobile games and still make mad money. Warhammer sells because its a luxury good. Books, models, paints etc are all leisurely activites which is why CA got flooded because people who LOVE Warhammer can afford the costs and generates buzz that get in newcomers, like how the iPhone took off. CA thinks Fantasy is a seller when in reality its catering to a fandom of people who'll pay $90 for an action figure of Durthu. Warhammer players are loyal to the brand not particularly the game engine.
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This is turn 17 or so as Alarielle, would the mage be worth grabbing or should I just dumb the gold for more influence to get a good lord for a second army down the line?
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>>230797049
Are they even able to do all that
Isn't it hard to edit meshes
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>>230797042
I feel like the age of flesh is over ending fits Khatep/Settra (because Settra would do it and Khatep would do it to suck Settra's dick) but not Khalida

Khalida is best girl, she dindu nuffin
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>>230797049
Not a chance.
Enjoy your waifu
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>>230780665
Which of the three are you referring to?
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>>230797336
ehhhh, I don't think it fits Khatep/Settra either. They WANT their flesh back, they're not smug about being boney bois, they're pissed off about it. And though I have absolutely nothing to base this on, I'd figured Settra would be fine with ruling fleshies. Sure he's not going to go out of his way to take care of them, but as long as they pay tribute and remember all his titles when they address him, he won't care.

But I'll admit all of this is pulled out of my ass. I do agree that Khalida wouldn't do the age of flesh being over- she wants the age of vampires over. Burn the fangies.
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>>230795148
DOGS OF WAR - LEGENDARY LORDS
>Borgio the Besieger
Borgio is the Merchant Prince of Miragliano, and one of the greatest Mercenary General of this age. He was nicknamed “The Besieger” because of his unsurpassed expertise in siege warfare.
>Lucrezzia Belladonna
Lecrezzia is considered the most beautiful woman in all of Tilea, and also a powerful and cunning sorceress. She is also rumored to be an arch poisoner, and mistress of many assassins.
>Al Muktar
A man of the Empire, known as Werner Glook, a former son of a rich and aristocratic noblemen and merchant of the great City-State of Marienburg. He goes on to immerse himself in Araby culture, take on the identity of "Al Muktar" or "The Chosen One" and proceeds to lead one of the finest cavalry mercenary companies in the world.
>Lorenzo Lupo
Lorenzo is the heir apparent to the city of Lucinni and is a desendant of one of the city's founders. Lorenzo wears armour of the old-fashioned style and fights on foot in the manner of his ancestors. This is a strange eccentricity of his and would be considered quaint and maybe even ridiculous by his rivals if he wasn't so good a general and didn't beat them so regularly.

Thoughts?
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>>230797691
>only one woman
Nice try /pol/
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>>230797416
Take this head, and put in on a male pirates body, and tell me it doesn't look better. Everything from the nose, to the cheek bone structure, to the eyes, to the jawline makes this character look masculine. Not in a masculine woman sort of way, but in a masculine man sort of way. It is jarringly off-putting and it is insane to me that no one caught this before it went out. It looks nothing like her art, it looks like her brother Aran Saltspite in drag.
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>>230797691
>Borgio the Besieger
Basically the "leader" of the DoW, he needs to be in.
>Lucrezzia Belladonna
She is a woman and a spellcaster, so she will be added in, for sure.
>Al Muktar
Probably will be reserved for the Araby dlc.
>Lorenzo Lupo
I just don't see this guy fitting in on the Vortex map aswell. They would have to squeeze in Borgio and Belladonna already.
I think Marco Colombo, and Fernado Pirazzo would be better fits.
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What are the chances of a playable Hobgoblin faction in TWW3?
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>>230798181
Pretty high, since it's one of the few obvious race dlc CA can do for TWW3.
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>>230797049
Here anon. It's not much but realistically, this is probably the most you could to make her decent without completely changing her face model because as it is, we cannot edit meshes and the problem lies in her facial structure. That said, I'm sure someone will eventually replace her head with the Fay Enchantress or something.
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>>230798050
>it is insane to me that no one caught this before it went out
Anon, this is CA you're talking about. They did catch it. And they clapped in celebration as they greenlit it. Beautiful and feminine women are sexist.
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>>230779623
first they removed ToB info from the OP and I didn't care, because I hated ToB
then they removed chinks info from the OP and I didn't care, because I hate chinks
then they removed older games info from the pastebin and I didn't care, because I've already played them
then they removed all total war games from the OP, because paradox released a RTS with a turn based map and people didn't care about TW games anymore and they made /twg/ their colony like they did with /civ4xg/
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>>230798070
Honestly even though I'm not particularly hyped on Marco Colombo I could see CA going for him if only because he'd be a ranged legendary lord which would differentiate him. I hadn't considered Fernado Pirazzo and I would definitely be interested in seeing him as a legendary lord for his conquistador look. Also, he could start in Lustria to spice things up.

I'm not sure they will do an Araby DLC as well as a Dogs of War DLC, but who knows, if they do you are right they will need to save Al Muktar because Araby really doesn't have many characters to go work with.
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>>230798328
Holy shit that looks muuuch better.
And more like the Art.
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>>230798328
her tattoo is on the wrong arm
I think her hair was also fair instead of gray
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americans = los ogros...
asians = skaven
blacks = orcs
indians = ungors
jews = chaos dwarfs
mexicans/latinos = goblins
whites = dark elves
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>>230798328
Eh, it's not ideal, but it's much better than her current state.
Why can't we edit meshes anyways?
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>>230798459
>the days of bullying Kevin until he posted some comfey osprey pictures are over
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>>230795931
>she actually died and got raised by Noctilus but managed to slip his grasp and now seeks vengeance against him for cursing her to unlife
Based, redpilled, true. This is what they should have done once they decided to use her for a vampire roster.
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>>230798328
Well shit, it actually looks like gruff a woman now.
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>>230798685
Anon, Orcs are basically the Football Lads Alliance with weapons.
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>>230798694
Because meshes are tied to animations and we cant edit animations either. What we can do, is remove individual meshes like say a cape, pauldrons, wings, or even a helmet, but then something like trimming Aranessa's jaws because its too wide and masculine is something that borders custom modeling which CA is vehemently against and only Cataph and a few others know.
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>>230797228

>Implying CA is on a healthy course

R2 broke the record in sales, then Warhammer 1 broke the record in sales, Warhammer 2 broke the record in preorder sales. What the fuck is this "CA is dying" bullshit coming from besides frustration with them, anyway?

If 3KTW isn't gangbusters break-the-bank-and-records then it's a loss but it doesn't single handedly end the series, quit the melodramatics. They'll just recooperate and pivot from that to an inevitably successful Medieval 3.
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>>230798940
Alien Isolation was a success as well
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>>230798940
nice reddit spacing my fellow redditor
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>>230798940
ToB fizzed and Rome II patches sparked a player revolt.
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>>230799106
All we need now is Ella yet again making up another shitstorm after people on steam complain about Aranessa being ugly. that person just might be the only one who can kill CA once and for all.
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At the very least, Layla is wearing a mask and judging from Khalida, she will at least look prettier than Aranessa. CA has a horrible track record modeling female faces for some reason.
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>>230798328
This is a vast improvement, and this was a really terrible shot anyway (she looks better in the animation) so it'd probably look legitimately decent in-game.
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I hope CA updates Rome 1 soon.
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>>230799458
>females
>feminine
nazi incel detected
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>>230799106
ToB was trying to sell an Age of Charlemagne pack for 40 bucks instead of 20.

>>230799020
And they've expanded their number of studios while after the holy fucking bible that was MTWII they shut down CA Australia. The time they were on death's door was before they got bought by Sega, there's nothing to speak to that situation now. I don't like half the shit they're doing but there's no reason to suspect they're about to die beyond wishful thinking of revenge because we're getting ching chong ping pong we arr rook same total war instead of Medieval or something else.
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>>230798221
With their ties to the Chaos Dwarves, I was kinda expecting them to only get a couple of units in the CD army as representation.
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roll chart for warhamz 2 pls
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>>230799679
The hobgoblins have a dedicated homeland on the Warhammer map, and are doing their own thing in the lore. Not all of them are slaves to the Chaos dwarfs.
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>>230799709
Read the OP, you fucking retard.
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>>230800002
well, the OP has been getting fucked every other thread by a mad fantasyfag, I wouldn't blame him for ignoring it
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>>230800002
almost a get, condolences
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>>230799828
Fingers crossed that they do go that far east on the map and that hobgoblins will be their own thing rather than just reskinned greenskins.
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How do you guys think VP will handle fastmoving units and cav? They dont seem to have spear units at all
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>>230799106
it wasnt the patch that sparked the revolt, it was the tranny "banning nazis" when they complained about a general recruitment bug
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>>230800207
Bigger units, and guns.
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>>230799174
>Ella is actually fighting the good fight from the inside and trying to kill CA for their jewish practices and liberal pandering
Deepest lore.
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>>230800191
Invading the world as Hobgobla-Khan with full stacks of wolfrider archers is gonna be kino.
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>>230799174
>AAAAAAAH SHE WAS MODELED AFTER ME
>WHY ARE THE NAZIS ATTACKING ME AGAIN!?!?
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>>230800207
Actually they have some of the tankiest spear units around by the looks of things, equivalent to what the elves got maybe, we just don't know anything about them yet.
Them chappies is big.
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>>230797049

>My mutant fish waifu ins't beautiful

C'mon, guy.
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>>230786374
I don’t see Wulfrik being the kind to build an empire either, but nows hes the face of a united Norsca.
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>>230800207
I imagine they will have a variety of slow effects through abilities/magic that help them deal with those kinds of units. Big bess also has an aoe slow tied to its shots. Lore of the deep might have some sort of slowing spell. If they have bats/direwolves you could also end up using a cheapo unit to catch/slow down fast movers that you can then punish with some sort of slower monster killer
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>>230786374
Nakai makes a lot of sense for being the FLC LL for lizzies, with his rivalry with Harkon.
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>>230800430
I mean was it so hard to stick to actual artwork and follow it through?
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>>230800430
Anon, we've been through this. Aranessa is described as beautiful in the lore (in fact, according to Warhammer, every woman is the most beautiful woman in the world) despite her mutations. This is just CA being bad at their job
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>>230800479
>tfw you send in the bats to slow down or halt some elite knights, only for you to then fire AP directly into them while they're bogged.

Mmmm delicious. But also the shooty bats too.
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>>230797184
>he's mad at that
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>can't have beautiful women in fantasy game
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>>230800479
In essence they're a defensive tarpit army. Basically, charging into a zombie line with your cavalry will just risk them being mobbed by the rest of the zombies.
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>>230800534
>>230800570
>>230800647
cringy incels
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>>230800319
I doubt they'll be in at release, probably DLC.
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>>230800638
Anger =/= disgust.
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>>230800710
Just because I've never seen a woman before and have a signed copy of Mein Kampf that doesn't mean I shouldn't be able to enjoy visual media that doesn't offend my senses.
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>>230800732
All the same. I bet you are that /tg/ fag.
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>>230800815
Never been to /tg/. I just think that aesthetically, the TWW elves look really boring and uninspired.
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>>230800710
Cant ignore the facts bruf.
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>People are more upset about the fact that the mutant fishlady looks ugly and mannish
>As opposed to the lore butchering, retcons, and lazy shitty reskin units, and the obvious fishing for female LL's by CA.
wat
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>>230801160
I think most are upset about both cause yet again CA deviated from the canon looks to create their own abominations.
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>>230801160
It's both. Read the previous threads. We could have had Vangheist and Skretch
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>>230800926
To me elves should just look like pretty and handsome humans with point ears. "Perfect" humans, I guess. If I wanted something exotic I wouldn't pick elves desu as they have presence in most fantasy settings anyway so I don't see how it's even possible to make them drastically different. Unless you deform them somewhat, but at that point it's only an elf in name to me.
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>>230801160
they're mad for all of that as well, but CA shills are pushing the narrative that they're only mad because she's not sexy and painting them as nazis
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Silver Princess reveal when? Ewald will finally have his waifu in the game
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>>230801160
Back to stormfront with you, scum.
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>>230801447
he's already dead in the timeline where the game is set
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>>230801447
In 5 hours
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>>230801508
He's actually the vampire lord of the silver host in the game, meaning Layla did turn him into a vampire.
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>>230801160
I'm upset that the new units look like shitty reskins and about the nonsensical female lords. Most of all, though, I'm upset that these nonsenical female lords look like shit.
idgaf about the lore lmao
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>>230801508
He's in the game and that's all that matters to me.
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I saw a girl the other day and I couldn't stop crying.
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>>230801676
Me too, brother. She almost looked back at me but I managed to run away fast enough.
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>>230801558
It's funny, how a week ago people were praising the fuck out of the fantasy team for saying how much attention to detail was put into this DLC to be true to the source material and how boohoo 40k will never get the same treatment, then now here we are with CA doing jumping the shark decisions. I feel so fucking stupid for ever getting hyped for this shit.
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>>230801732
oh jesus that sounds scary. I can't run anymore, I don't know what I would have done in your situation
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>that aranessa
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
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>>230785210
>All the tools are going to be there for you to fix it with mods
no, you can't import models
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>>230801739
Never cared about vamp coast and Dreedefleet, but at least they did not make her a vampire and gave her some human units to indicate that Sartosa is not zombies land, so at least there is that.
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>>230801739
Well it really started off that way, didn't it? As I said, lore isn't something I'm concerned with, but the praise was pretty consistent about it at WH1's launch and for quite awhile after. I suppose it's more of a "hook them in" mentality at that point, and now that they feel the audience is hooked they don't feel as much pressure to keep up the effort. That said, Tomb Kings lived up to the expectations, did it not? Feels like it was released not too long ago but I guess it's been about 3/4's a year since it was released.
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>>230801327
>To me elves should just look like pretty and handsome humans with point ears. "Perfect" humans, I guess
So basically vampires. Except vampires act like humans, as opposed to elves, who are very culturally different from them. Amazons and grail knights/damsels also fill this role of perfect/superior humans. And i think elves fill this role the worst, due to their inhuman morals and culture.
>If I wanted something exotic I wouldn't pick elves
Very few races in the Warhammer setting are truly "exotic".
>Unless you deform them somewhat, but at that point it's only an elf in name to me
So changing their physical appearance would make them not elves to you? Do you not consider Dawi Zharr dwarfs? Are Hobgoblins goblins to you? Where is the line drawn?
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>>230801904
>can't edit map shape
>can't import models
fuck nu modding
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>>230782938
don't exist anymore
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>>230801951
Well for comparison, Tomb Kings did everything fucking well. Nobody was butthurt about the Lord choices. CA went the extra mile to actually complete their roster and make a completely unique system for them. Not to mention, that almost every new unit had complete new animations that even with modding today you cant simply copy paste a Necrosphinx's animations into any other unit, meanwhile Vampire Coast already has unit models that suspiciously look cannibalized from other existing units
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>>230802005
>due to their inhuman morals and culture.
That's different, and I wasn't talking about these things, just their looks.
>Very few races in the Warhammer setting are truly "exotic"
I suppose, but that doesn't bother me.
>Dawi Zharr dwarfs
They do not look very (not counting clothes) so they are another flavor of dwarfs, kind of like 3 kinds of elves.
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>>230798682
Well she's supposed to be a blonde-haired blue-eyed Norscan lass.
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>>230802005
The races are actually different due to the mindset they harbor.
The Dwarfs with their grudges. Elves with their worship. Lizardmen with their thinking etc. Through those traits they seem alien and hard to understand.
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>>230802219
She is and CA despite having clear descriptions of her appearance, did the opposite for some retarded reason.
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>>230802351
Also if I'm not mistaken, she's not supposed to be so spiky. In the art of her there's definite spikes, but they follow the line of the clothing she's wearing, giving the impression that she's got some sort of spiked pelt drawn over her rather than spikes bristling from her skin in those places. But CA now has her spiky all over.
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>>230802173
Hell even the campaign mechanics struck me as unique and interesting for the kings. You're right though, the Vampirates look a little less exciting to me from what I've seen. Looks like VC lords honestly, as opposed to the undead lords of the Kings looking strikingly unique in comparison. Not sure about the animations yet unless I've missed in-game video footage I'll give it a little benefit of the doubt until then, but some of the models don't inspire much confidence.
Still haven't pre-ordered anyways, but I still might even if it looks low-effort on CA's part
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>>230802526
She isnt. Jaego, who made love to her before, described her skin as supple and smooth. It would have been fucking hard fucking a woman like her if she had fucking spikes all over her. CA doesnt even fucking read the source material for this shit.
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>>230801160
Have you even read Plotinus Ennead I.6? Beauty is the origin of beinghood, it's more important than any lore. If you don't long for beauty you've lost you're soulless:
>This is the spirit that Beauty must ever induce, wonderment and a delicious trouble, longing and love and a trembling that is all delight. For the unseen all this may be felt as for the seen; and this the Souls feel for it, every soul in some degree, but those the more deeply that are the more truly apt to this higher love- just as all take delight in the beauty of the body but all are not stung as sharply, and those only that feel the keener wound are known as Lovers.
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>>230802216
>That's different, and I wasn't talking about these things, just their looks.
Well i guess then that this is just down to personal opinion. I just think that making an entire race look like humans is extremely boring. They just don't look interesting to me at all.
>They do not look very (not counting clothes) so they are another flavor of dwarfs, kind of like 3 kinds of elves
But you can't extend this line of thinking to different looking elves, like the TES variants?
>>230802321
Fully agreed. But i like it when these alien mindsets and cultures of the various races are also translated to their outwards appearence. Vampires can look like humans, because they are very human in how they act. Elves look very human, despite sharing little in common with the humans of the warhammer setting. This just seems bland and boring to me.
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>>230801932
Yeah they just employ vampires to staff their armies, makes much more sense.
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>>230802625
>TES variants
Not really into that, though I always found silly that orcs and cat people are "elves" in that setting, though I don't have a problem with divergent evolution. Other elves look similar enough to each other. Not counting their cultures of course, but I don't have a problem with that either.
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>>230802005
Elves are the true claimants to the superhuman throne, vampires are corpse botherers. Graio Knights only achieve superhumaness because they are moved by Elven virtues of an Elf goddess, they are mimetic and derivative of Elfhood.

Elves operate on a higher moral plane of good and bad, beyond good and evil.
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>Release probably the best trailer they made so far for tw:w and build hype with great ost in it.
>Luthor quickly becomes fan favorite, oc memes are born
>Ruin dlc with 2 dumb LL choices and disappointing music in game.
Why? Kagnz were fucking perfect. What happened? Why would they do this? It doesn't make any sense.
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>>230802965
Diversity quota
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>>230802965
sh*t the fuck up
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DRUCHII
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>>230803057
GROOVY
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>>230802965
for whatever reason they couldn't just announce the 4lls at the go, probably because they really, really, really, want this dlc to wipe the r2 shit + chinkdoms obv cut content pre order out of peoples minds. So even if they don't have anything of substance to announce, they are going to keep dropping pointless info to keep people interested in the release

I just want info on the roster + mechanics
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>>230802965
It's the biggest monkey paw of this game so far.
Remember all the "will there be pirate waifus" posts after the trailer? People should have just shut up.
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>>230802617
I mean written material or not, it should just be clear if you examine her art carefully enough. It's a clear case of where CA must have just generally glanced at it time and again during the dev process but they never sat down some of their artists just to study and dissect the official art to make sure they're understanding right what they're seeing.
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>>230802965
Only possible saving grace now, is if vampire-chan gets reskinned as a salty pirate wench.
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>>230803117
This is the last straw for me to be honest. I remember wanting Hellebron, Alarielle and the Handmaiden so bad so when the Queen and Crone DLC was announced, I was so hyped to get more waifus. But seein as CA is so fucking adamant on having Tom Parker model them instead of Jaco Herbst, I dont want CA touching female units ever again. Imagine how fucking ugly they'll make Katarina or Neferata in the future
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>>230802965
>Why?
Because diversity is important, nazi.
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Guys any tips on playing hordes in attila total war? also should i as Huns be only horsemen army or what
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>>230803264
aristocratic vamp chan > pirate wench vamp chan
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>>230801160
>tfw like female LLs
>tfw pervert that likes anything that leads to more porn
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>>230803418
>TWWH
>getting any porn
Lmao. This game isnt like Vermintide that has a dedicated artist making Kerillian porn.
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>>230803264
They'll probably patch her out in the update.
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>>230803469
Step up your game then.
I at least commissioned Felicion sucking human husbando/her brother - depending on your fetish.
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>>230803370
horse only huns is a bit of a noobtrap if you don't know what you are doing. Especially since the only real marks of progress for the huns are when you raze settlements, meaning you have to fight a lot of siege battles, where inf are far superior. You can certainly go pretty heavy on the cav due to how good the hun cav is, but at some point you are going to want to have inf and onagers for towns
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>>230803418
>tfw no Karl and Volkmar doubleteaming Isabella or Alarielle artwork
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>>230802947
>Grail Knights only achieve superhumaness because they are moved by Elven virtues of an Elf goddess, they are mimetic and derivative of Elfhood
Bretonnian soceity is nothing like welf soceity. Chivalry and clear class divides and oppresion are very clear human concepts and cliches.
>Elves are the true claimants to the superhuman throne, vampires are corpse botherers
Here is how the common human usually views a vampire:
>"......they are smarter than us, stronger than us. They live longer than us.. and taxes are half. I for one will be the first in welcoming them back...."
Vampires are clearly supposed to be the "superior humans" in the setting.
>Elves operate on a higher moral plane of good and bad, beyond good and evil.
Exactly. This is what makes them so none human. Vampires and grail knights are much better fits for the "perfect human" role, because of their imperfections. Being imperfect and flawed is what defines us as humans. Vampires were literally created based on flaws in the lore. Elves are indeed "perfect", but this perfection puts them closer to lizardmen than humans.
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>>230803541
wew
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>>230803632
>>"......they are smarter than us, stronger than us. They live longer than us.. and taxes are half. I for one will be the first in welcoming them back...."
Don't use those meme quotes form RPG rulebook. I agree with the rest, with exception of making elves ayy lmaos of course.
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>>230803594
>Anything but intimate 1 on 1 vanilla sex
Fag
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>>230802893
> I always found silly that orcs and cat people are "elves" in that setting
Weren't orcs/goblins created from elves in lotr?
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>>230803582
Is there a difference in the army roster between huns and white huns? because I want to play as white huns. I started a campaign with them but i failed after 6 years because of how i don't know which horsemen to get and which are bad
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>>230803754
Good taste anon.
>>230803786
Sort of, but their creation is not clear. Supposedly Morgoth tortured them and turnen them into orcs. We don't really know much about Tolkien orcs, though for example some of the orcs serving under Saruman were created by mixing orcs and humans - goblin men they are called I believe.
>inb4 el goblino...
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>>230780201
nobody likes you peasant
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>>230803751
>Don't use those meme quotes form RPG rulebook
They were used for TWW1, so i thought that it was relevant.
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>>230803632
>Elves are bad cadidates for superhumanness because they surpass humans in perfection and virtue
Hmmmm. One could say they have overcome humaness, a type of "overman" if you will.

>Bretonnian soceity is nothing like welf soceity. Chivalry and clear class divides and oppresion.
Elf society is aristocratic with class hierarchy, Dark Elves best exemplify it but they all have it.
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>>230804008
They they picked unreliable quotes to use. Though I suppose even armybooks read like propaganda.
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>>230803879
white huns are similar but with some more eastern flavor units and different spears/swords

Their roster is entirely centered around spet xyon archers, and to a lesser extent hepthalite chargers. Spet Xyon are the single most op unit in Attila
>movement speed of very light horse archers
>armor of med/heavy cav
>tower shields with insane missile block chance
>stats capable of fighting in melee
>high missile damage
Since you start out in a bit of a tough spot fighting the entirety of the sassanids turn 1, CA got lazy and gave them the Spet Xyons as a crutch that can basically carry you in battle no matter what. Hepthalite chargers are somewhat op, but not as much, being a cheapish cav unit that comes w/ cavalry counter tactics, allowing them to btfo most other cav
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>>230802625
The game does a poor job translating the mindset on the outwards in the game like you said. Elves were hit the worst imo. Dwarfs got the better.
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>>230804139
thanks!
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>>230804180
>Elves were hit the worst imo
More like they were improved and don't look like grey aliens.
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How come the Vampire Coast pirates are the only undead that use modern tech?
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>>230804285
Their zombies have higher IQ.
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G-g-guys have faith in him. There's going to be narrative gameplay justifying why Aranessa has access to vampire units. I-i-it's all going to be part of her coherent narrative arc told through the campaign.
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Is there a better mod manager for WH2?
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>>230804405
who gives a fuck, who the fuck is aranessa, why are people pretending to care
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hello totards this is your new LL
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>>230804514
Because it's a human LL with a vampire roster on a dog shit premise.
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>>230804616
greedy pirate sinks to new low to further her own goals after near death experience who cares
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>>230804405
>nfl

garbage
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>>230804514
Because it's a wasted LL slot on some one who could have fit better. Dont tell me you're paying 20 bucks for a DLC where at best youll only play one of the LLs because the rest are fucking awful
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>>230804514
>I don't care so everyone else must share my apathy
Maybe everyone isn't you anon and we have different opinions on things. Have you ever considered that?
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>>230804690
yeah and Radious tier units are perfectly acceptable now?
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>>230804707
i bought the 2 games and i have absolutely no interest in skavens, all the elves,beastmen and chaos
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>>230804707
i hope by one you mean noctilus and his based mech boats, also its an entire whomst faction, there is nothing better to do, vampire coast is a fucking meme

>>230804759
you didn't know who she was before this announcement bro
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THRONES
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>>230804769
You think this is more egregious than the flaming tree kin or something?
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>>230804041
>Hmmmm. One could say they have overcome humaness, a type of "overman" if you will.
No, i disagree. I think elves, and their virtues and perfection, are parodies of what a human THINKS a society of perfect people would be like.
Vampires offer a much more realistic approach to what humans would actually do, if they were to becone "perfect". They still cling to simple human goals (Wants to rule the empire, or acquire even better immortality). Another thing that vampires do that humans would probably do if they were "ascended" to perfection, is to abuse this power, and exploit the lesser humans around them for their own gain. Despite the perfection of the vampires, they still act very human.

>Elf society is aristocratic with class hierarchy, Dark Elves best exemplify it but they all have it.
Yes, bit it's either idealised hierarchy, or super-evil cartoon-like.
Welfs have a more equal soceity, where everyone is a protector of some kind. In welf soceity, there is nobility and hierarchy, but even the peasents on Ulthuan have it really good, and all get to dress in beatiful armor when going into battle. They live like gods, compared to human peasents.
Dark elves just have slavery for the sake of it. They burn throught their slaves because they are like bored gods, aimlessly killing and destroying. And in dark elven soceity, even there there is a fine gap between elves and the rest. All dark elves are more or less fine, while the slaves have to do all of the hard work , save for fighting. Dark elves also always plot against eachother, like the skaven. They hold little uniformity, and are like a pantheon of gods, plotting against eachother for hundreds if not thousands of years.

Vampires remain the best pick for "perfect humans" in the setting, imo.
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>>230804852
Bro I really shouldn't have to reiterate this, but you're really fucking thick. Not everybody is you. Just because you didn't know who these characters were until the announcement, doesn't mean that everyone else was the same.
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>>230805016
you keep dodging actually refuting it, this faux outrage about fucking Aranessa returning from the maelstrom with zombies because some grand betrayal of the lore's integrity is fucking tiresome
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>>230804950
Yes. Aranessa (Not really a vampire or necromancer) (stronk wimmin) is as silly as Radious' Graveguard (Hagbane Arrows). It's so fucking stupid.
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>>230805096
There is nothing to refute. You''re making wild assumptions based on pure projection.
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>>230805140
i didn't say as silly as radious graveguard hagbane arrows, no meme i mean literally the flaming tree kin that are in the game right now officially for real. I think that's a magnitude higher issue if you're going to get into dumb made up units
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>>230805096
It's fucking faux outrage. Read every where, from reddit to TW forums. Nobody fucking wanted Aranessa in vampire coast because shes a living fucking human/mutant thats supposed to be with the likes of Jaego Roth and other human pirates
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>>230805237
Wait, there are flaming treekin in this game? Which faction?
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>>230804285
They're not lead by backwards hillbilly nobles.
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>>230805238
It' not*
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>>230805096
No, what's fucking tiresome is a dumbfuck shill like you trying to defend the obvious choice of throwing away reason for diversity's sake. And your best ammunition for this is "lmao stop caring xDD just close your eyes and let it happen, it will be easier that way"
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>>230805235
I'm asking you if you're really an oldfag Aranessa purist and not someone who just googled the summary of this barely existing "character" after the announcement and chimped out

>>230805276
Who do you think, who has tree-kin
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>>230805329
Wood Elves and Alarielle. And no therent any flaming treekin afaik. Alarielle's WE roster only compromises of Dryads, Treekin and Treemen. You must be using some mods.
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>play game as lizardmen, have fun tearing through tiny skaven, lose later
>play skaven, cool rats with weird science, lose early cause I can't manage food and no idea how to attack without losing everything
>play tombkings, watch my warsphinx trash around and send other spooky sand skeletons flying
fun times, still no idea how to play lmao
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>>230804180
>Not muh ayys
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>>230805238
Don't even bother. They will just call you incel, nazi, manbaby or whatever buzz world, totally ignore your argument because "It's only a game, why you heff to be mad?" or whatever and make up some outrageous strawman.
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>>230805404
He is talking abotu the Ironbark Eldars, which are a RoR wood elf unit from the 30th anniversary thing.
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>>230805321
>for diversity's sake
Hopefully you mean that in the sense of having a crab buffing LL in which case yes I think it's worth it

>>230805404
get a clue
https://youtu.be/yz7qXNJglxI?t=106
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>>230805424
Just remember that High elves>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Literal shit>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Dark elves.
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>>230805480
>>230805483
Eh, never saw them as I always played as Talswyn and not Argwylon.
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>>230786160
>square up on unspeakable horrific demons from across dimensions so hard they straight refuse to ever come back
The absolute state of the forces of chaos
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>>230805483
There is nothing in her lore that has to do with buffing crabs. It's a generic trait that could have just as easily gone to any other character they picked.
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>You will never be brave like that Stormvermin
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>>230805483
Of course. One of the male vampire LLs wouldn't be able to buff crabs. Good logic from a smart person.
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>>230805483
Which is silly as Aranessa had no affinity towards sea monsters. She was just a normal pirate who was really good at ramming her ship.
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>>230788584
LORD OF THE horse HORDE
BATTLE TIME IS herding TIME
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>>230805608
you can get them as either mein freunde

>>230805693
i dunno radious i think the fish lady is more up to snuff for that job
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>>230786160
But Kroxigors are "dumb". They are pretty much automatons who just stand around doing nothing unless they get a task from Skinks or some hostile entity is nearby to smesh. How he can lead the armies?
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>>230805827
See >>230805702
Aranessa is a chaos mutant. She has no ability to buff sea monsters. This is CA making shit up based on first glance.
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>People still mad about women.
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>>230805910
women are gaining too much power these days
someone should put them in their place imo.
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>>230805902
and volkmar has shit all to do with knights of the blazing sun, who aren't evil smiting paladins with burning lances
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FUUUUGGGGG
WHY COULDNT WE HET THE SEA HAG LL INSTEAD CA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>230805902
They probably read a bit about
>To some, she is the daughter of the sea god Manann himself, with brine for blood.
And assumed she must rule all sea creatures! Fuck yeah! Muricca *gunshots*
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>>230805981
Well who knew CA is full of shit? They cant even give Alberic his trident.
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>>230805827
I dunno Ella, why is a fish lady better suited to buff an undead crab that has no will of its own and is under the control of a vampire?
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>>230805943
Based to be honest
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>>230803754
Amish fag plz go.
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>>230805943
I'll beat the fuck out of an uppity female at a moment's notice
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>>230806037
I honestly dont know her vampire first mate didnt just fucking start a mutiny and killed Aranessa if the vampire was the one commanding the armies.
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>>230806037
>The Promethean was worshipped by a Cult of Mutants in Marienburg. Each of them had some aquatic mutation—fins, scales, lobster claws, tentacles.
hmm i wonder...
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>>230804962
>perfect humans
>can't reproduce sexually
Perfect my ass.
That mean you won't be able to have kids with vamp chan ;_;/spoiler]
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>>230806252
Don't they "reproduce" by giving a blood kiss to worthy individuals and bring them into their bloodline/family or whatever the fuck.
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4 hours left for the final meltdown.
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>>230806212
>she's better suited to buff an undead carcass because.... uh.... mutants exist I guess? does that make any sense? no? I'll go with it anyway
hmmm really activates those almonds....
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>>230806413
I'm honestly too fucking tired to care about this shit anymore. I just want more news about the fucking lizardman and skaven DLC. I dont give a fuck about this OC shit.
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Anons who use reshades, please help. Wanted to take some screenshots but a) sometimes these bright borders appears around units b) shadows are very dark and you can't see much sometimes.
This is on ultra settings and with brightness increased a bit. Whit what settings should I fool around to make it better, especially shadows.
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>>230806534
You must be using a cinematic filter. Remove it.
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>>230806514
I'm sure you will love to hear after a year of waiting that CA brings some meme lords to both factions with meme units and ignoring picks that you wanted.
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>>230806534
and another pic
>>230806584
It's in the settings?
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>>230806590
>CA picks a feminine Skink with like one line of description because CA has to fill their quota and every DLC now requires a female LL.
>Likewise, skaven gets a female Greyseer because some really fucking obscure fanfic says that white haired female skaven became magicians
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>>230806426
>undead carcass
woah....
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>>230806413
Is it Silver Princess? I hope so, desu.
>>230806394
>can't have biological children
That sucks, but immortality is a good trade off.
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>>230806746
>female Greyseer
don't even joke about this, you'll summon the furries
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>>230806747
>they just call it rotting as a prank :D
woah......
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>>230806885
They're unfortunately all around us already.
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>>230806946
so it seems
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Where did it all go wrong bros? Future looked so bright after WH1.
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>>230806993
For sure. I always knew the only people who take up shilling for peanuts are those who have no other career option so they're not very bright, but you take it to new levels.
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>>230807062
Jack Lusted and Ella happened.
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>>230807062
ToB and 3K fucked us over.
CA is making the same mistake that Telltale did.
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Jack Justed posting died down. Snotling posters are gone too.
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>>230807062
how the fuck did the future look bright after wh1, fantasyfags love to eat shit plain and simple
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>>230804257
>>230805437
Not essentially like grey aliens like the other guy wants but a more outlandish look. They are supposed to be long and a bit stretched.
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>>230797691
>his unsurpassed expertise in siege warfare.

>no marmalodi
http://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Quotes_Dogs_of_War
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>>230807069
>you
>assblasted for eternity
>normal people
>enjoying their new content
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>>230807234
But ToB is history and it's the worst product CA has ever released, launch version of Empire:TW included
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>>230807312
That doesn't sound pretty, no thanks.
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Posting this post from a /teegee/ Goblin Slayer vs WH Goblins+Orcs thread. I wanna know what's your opinion guys.

>Lets take canon fights where Grimgor fought humans.

>He fought Crom in a duel that lasted the length of a whole battle but in the end it ended in draw when the Orc army was defeated.

>Archaon vs Grimgor version 1 had Grimgor charge and cheapshot a severely wounded Archaon who had just finished his long gruelling duel with Valten and Luthor Huss. Grimgor landed plenty of uncontested blows on Archaon and yet Archaon kept fighting back and getting back up until Grinmgor parried Archaon counterblow and placed his axe beneath Archaon's throat and said his line before leaving.

>Version 2 had Grimgor EMPOWERED BY THE WIND OF BEASTS fought Archaon in a one vs one. He failed to land any blow on Archaon except when he head butted Archaon while they were locking weapons. This pissed off Archaon so much that his next strike shattered Grimgor's axe forcing the Orc to lunge at Archaon to try to strangle him to death. Archaon casually beheaded Grimgor.

>What do we take from this? Goblin Slayer has a shot. Grimgor movements are slower than a human. Goblin Slayer has to dodge Grimgor's attacks. Considering that Crom and Arachaon managed it for a prolonged period of time, GS can surely do it. Even if Grimgor's blows fall on GS, he can tank them if he trained his stamina and wore some plate metal as evidence by Grimgor's inability to knockout Archaon or keep him from getting up. GS next has to find away to break Grimgor's axe through magical means or explosives. A disarmed Grimgor would be blinded by rage, allowing GS an opening to go to his vitals like the heart or head like what Archaon did.
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The only thing I want added to the game is TEN THOUSAND FLAGELLANTS DRAGGING THE AUTOMORIAL OF MIDDENHEIM DELIVERED FROM THE DARKNESS.
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>>230806098
nay
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>>230806098
The girl in the back.....

Her ass is too fat
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>>230807451
GS is just a human
cant be compared with archaon and grimgor who are bulletproof
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>>230807416
Precisely. That'd the post wh1 landscape
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>>230807312
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>>230807451
goblin slayer is not archaon
grimgor is not slower than a human

fanfic fights are cancer
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>>230807479
You will get 4 flagellants dragging a statue instead
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Yo, Necroducer LL when? Who cares about lore anyway, are you some kind of loser that treats rulebooks and fluff like the holy Bible, lol!
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>>230807725
>Necroducer is Saltspite's necromancer
>she asks how he works his magic with out fucking himself and the human crew members over
>IT'S JUST LIKE THE MOVIES
>STUPID
>A LITTLE OF THIS, A LITTLE OF THAT: BANG, ZOMBIE PIRATE IDOLS
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>>230807575
t. irish
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>>230807725
unironically based
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oh no no no no no
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TOTAL WAR IS FOR GAYS PLAY GRAND STRAT INSTEAD
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Why do people hate women?
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I thought we were happy about the new DLC, I was away for the actualy discussion upon the news released
So why are we mad at CA this time?
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>>230808232
>closed
I love democracy.
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>>230807621
>human

And what is Archaon? A squig?
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>>230808287
Why do you want to know?
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>>230808289
new lord's too cool for loremaster of sotek viewers
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>>230808287
Hate is a strong word anon
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>>230808289
Unreasonable forced inclusivity. And making women look like men.
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>>230808346
he's canonically half daemon of birth

on top of being the edgiest OC that ever was not steel
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>>230808289
shoehorned a non-vamp lord into a vamp coast dlc contradicting all the lore on the character
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>>230804405
>There's going to be narrative gameplay justifying why Aranessa has access to vampire units.
They already explained why in the fucking blog
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>>230808287
this is a meme generated from the autistic back lash addding women in Rome 2 (a dead game)
Fantasy Chads want mroe wiafus in their game and only History cucks don't. They are really just jealous we not only have dragonmanni but also their precious spearmanii to boots :^)
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>>230808289
>still no naval combat
>no shanties
>Two LL lords don't fit and are waste of slot
>One woman LL they had to put for no reason looks like man
>A lot of units looks like reskins
The only thing they can fuck up more is if they make Malus instead of Lokhir
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>>230808512
New to warhammer. Can you explain?
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>>230806584
>cinematic filter
I assume you meant SSOA. I took it off and now it looks better, though shadows sometimes seem wonky.
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>>230804857
OF
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>>230808289
Some of the units look like lazy reskins.
Weird-ass legendary lords that feel like the only reason they were chosen was because they were female.
CA trying to one-up themselves at making the ugliest woman they can.
Looks alright otherwise but seemingly lower quality than the Kangz
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>>230808289
>So why are we mad at CA this time?
pushing aside more thematically appropriate LL to include female characters, half assing their inclusion with minimal explanation, making the girl not actually as pretty as she's supposed to be

the usual: forced representation and progressive agenda pandering
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>sacrifices himself to show the corruption of CA
>now he's addicted to drugs
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>>230808321
>both closed by this guy
>those signature quotes
A walking stereotype of the pathetic powertripping forum mod masturbating the only amount of artificial social influence he's ever known.
Which is your average forum mod, but still. OH NO NO NO NO
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>>230808571
Does it overall look at least good though? Not sure how much of is due to reshade.
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>>230807420
They werr never supposed to be really "pretty". Just so much that humans could find the attractive but still feel that they are different.
Just like this
>>230807689
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>playing on normal normal
>the auto resolve gives the same result as me, sometimes even better
why am I so bad at this game
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>>230808526
I'm a fantasyfag and I want my women pretty dammit. It always feels so fucking degrading having to mod them to beautiful because thats not my fucking job. Why cant we have pretty women like in fantasy games back in 2000s?
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>>230808678
jesus christ
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>>230808656
what compels people to say "it would not be okay to make her more beautiful"?

is it a mental illness?
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>>230808781
That's not attractive, though I suppose it is to some since there is at least one anon who wants them to look like that. Anyway, it's a matter of taste and I like how they are presented in game so I'll leave it at that.
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>>230808552
They're grossly misinterpreting existing Warhammer fluff to meet their expectations.

Aranessa Saltspite is a norscan mutant fishwoman and Pirate Lord who, in the specialist game DREADFLEET, joins the Grand Alliance against the Vampire Pirate Lord Noctilius. The reason she does this is simply because Noctilius threatens to dominate the sea's entirely, and killing him is the only way to protect her interests. Anons have interpreted this to mean she hates vampires. She does not, she doesn't give a shit.

In the game, which is an alternate timeline, Aranessa is via the assistance of Vampire subordinates resurrecting dead sailors to give herself a fleet of zombie pirates, in the interest of competing with Harkon and Noctilius, both of whom are racing to control the great Merwyrm who is ravaging the sea's. Whoever controls the Merwrym will control the sea, so her motivation remains the same - her own freedom and prosperity. The necromantic powers of Pirate Coast - which by canon we know can be used by non undead thanks to Luther Harkon proliferating artifacts and spreading them around to others in order to accrue favors.

The other complaint is that she has manjaw. Which is true. But she also has manjaw in the art, and i'm not sure what these fucks are smoking >>230808656
>>230808656

She looks exactly the same, just in the painting she has makeup on
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>>230808464
He earned his loot by right.
Hes the ultimate Champion.
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>>230808952
Her face is too wide and manly looking. In art it got a more feminine structure, just look at her cheeks. That fish jaw thing also didn't pop off as much and was following her jawline.
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>>230808952
>The necromantic powers of Pirate Coast - which by canon we know can be used by non undead thanks to Luther Harkon proliferating artifacts and spreading them around to others in order to accrue favors.
you're just making shit up now

>makeup
makeup doesn't make one's cheekbones appear out of a fatty manjaw
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>>230808948
They are or were described like that in Lore tho. I didnt say fully blown gorgeous sex god but more like something familiar and yet different kind of thing.
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>>230809086
he's an edgy hypocrite with daddy issues
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>>230808952
Now, as for "why would vampires work for a mortal against other vampires", the answer is simple: Lahmia.

Neferata and the Lahmian vampires sit on the top of the heap by their ability to control and manipulate mortal affairs, they're shadow rulers. The Merwyrm and the actions of Harkon and Noctilius and whoever lord 4 is (probably The Silver Lady) threaten the status quo that keeps them enriched. Neferata has a long history of blatantly working against other vampire lords and other bloodlines for the flimsiest of reasons (see The Strigoi), and prefers to work through powerful women. Aranessa is likely being puppeted by the Lahmia who then intend to use her themselves. The ending of the campaign will likely be ambivilant about the future, like all the campaign ends have been.

>>230809161
>you're just making shit up now

Nope. Zombie Pirates were a dog of war choice. This doesn't have direct relevance for Aranessa as it's explicitly stated she has her own necromancers working for her, but it's precedent.
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>>230808886
>I want my fantasy warlord to look like an anime thin slut
Let me guess you are holding out for a loli dwarf overhaul as well
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>>230809316
Another ridiculous strawman.
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>>230808886
I want pretty women too anon but some crusty fish bitch isn't gonna be it. Now the elves, the brettonian damosels, thems the ones to complain about
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>>230809361
that is also completely on the money
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>>230808952
>she got a magic skull from harkon so she that can use zombies to fight harkon
of course, now it all makes sense
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>>230807451
Archaon is pretty chad and looks fine. I don't get the autistic hatred for him.
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Only a bit under 3 hours left to see whether CA will cuck Araby out of future DLC or not

inb4 they start Layla in the Arabyan capital Al-Haikk and just pretend native Arabyans don't exist
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>>230809296
did you even read the page you posted?
those are arkhon's servants
it's not the guy the trinket has been gifted to that are using necromantic powers
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>>230808952
I don't even care about the lore and her using zombie pirates, but that's a fucking man
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>>230809316
No fuck off. Back in the 2000s you had Baldurs Gate, Everquest and Warcraft. All had skimpy dressed women with bombshell bodies and smooth faces.

>>230809405
Except Aranessa isnt supposed to be ugly. The fucking fluff says shes pretty
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>>230809264
Ugly.
>>230809203
I don't hold all lore sacred in all matters and for good reason, knowing how setting ended up and all. Also, presentation varied between artists and editions (remember those old edition 80's metal looking witch elves) as well in different mediums like older video games.
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>>230808289
Your typical overdramatic /v/ tourism again

no one was gonna play as Aranessa "literally who" Saltspite anyway, but since CA made her ugly everyone acts as though they absolutely ruined an important character. Same with the muh reskins bullshit. This general was begging for a literal reskin DLC in the shape of Dogs of War, but suddenly zombies are an issue?

give it a week and it'll die down.
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>>230808952
>grossly misinterpreting
>proceeds to explain how they kick aside all reason to have this living person whose story was about fighting against vampires, as a lord in a vampire faction because her super convenient and previously non-existent vampire subordinates are the ones that lead the armies
I have just two questions. Are you at least paid to post this drivel? If the answer is no: If Tomb Kings had not been made at all but instead CA put Khalida in the Campire Counts leading varghulfs and blood knights and shit, would you be here defending it as a good decision?
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>>230808678
What a soiboy
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>>230809240
Sigmar abandonned him unrightfully and he was right that nobody should be at the Gods mercy and manipulation.
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>>230809530
araby is a disgrace, I hope it never gets done but is instead fully replaced by tomb kings, bretonnian crusades and vampirates
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>>230809709
Just make them tall and slender. They look like humans. Literally, just got pointy ears and that's it.
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>>230809718
this, /v/ fags fuck off you don't even play videogames
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>>230808678
Hey brits, this man spends your welfare money on e-celeb bullshit. How do you feel?

Be glad he didn't join IRA.
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>>230809405
dreadfleet lore says she was attractive enough to get the attention of everyone on Jaego's ship
he even fucked her and describes her as feminine
now you also have the art showcasing her, which CA got wrong as well
she doesn't have as much spikes and scales on her art compared to the model, her eyes are the wrong color on the model, her hair is fair and it's grey in the game, her tattoo is also on her wrong arm, her face looks too wide and masculine
are you saying CA did a good job interpreting her?
not to mention she's not meant to be leading a zombie crew, which is an asspull
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>>230809718
No fuck off. I didnt want Aranessa in this DLC in the fucking first place. Give me Vangheist
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>>230809530
>inb4 they start Layla in the Arabyan capital Al-Haikk
Likely she would end up somewhere on northern coast of Araby. Maybe were brett placeholders are.
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>>230809709
Sure thats understandable Im not saying those ayy Elves are the standard since that was mostly 6th edition but they are at least slim and sleek in appereance.
And those TW Elves look way too off from what we usually have.

My point is in trying to find balance between the ayy Elves and the "human" Elves.
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>>230809879
>blablabla
Fuck off horny incel.
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>>230809718
I'm a waifufag and the Dreadfleet novella by Phil Kelly described her as a looker and so I was excited. I got a man in drag instead. Fucking kys
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>>230809778
this, SJWfags fuck off you don't even play videogames
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>>230809748
>unrightfully
are you telling me sigmar is contractually obligated to show up to a whimpering knight that doesn't have the faith to go on with the vows he has taken?

>Gods mercy and manipulation.
better be manipulated and try to get as many worlds at the mercy of the dark gods then, I guess, logical.
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All these obsessed mutts complaining about the lack of waifus
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>>230809936
So you'd rather having the DLC spot for other good LLs be taken by a throwaway LL that you dont care because you wont play as her anyway? Gotcha. CA will love drones like you that dont care about quality.
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>>230809498
Same. Hes a badass who earned his right and was successful. Hes only hated cause of the End Times.
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>>230809847
>tfw no troubles 2.0
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>>230809929
>>230809772
Well fine, if you want and like that. I don't really care for that though. I always liked more how they were presented in older video games.
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>>230809998
Speak for yourself. Do you really think CA will give you your ratman DLC? Lmao, they'll make more female inclusion DLC for 3 Kingdoms first and not the Dynasty Warriors type of pretty that weebs expect.
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>>230809936
I'M HORNY, OK?
ACCURACY IS MY FETISH
DO YOU WANT TO SLUTSHAME ME?
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>play as Empire
>unite the Reikland
>do the Battle of Bloodpine Woods
>declare war on Middenland ( fortunately Nordland refuses to join on their side )
>capture Carroburg
>next turn that shit happens

I swear this game fucking hates me..
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The biggest bungle with Aranessa's looks is that their promotional image looks far worse than the fucking in-game model.
This is from her lord portrait animation, which they uploaded afterwards. Notice the exaggerated facial lines and piggy grease look are gone.
On top of that, the shitty shark jaw beard and bitch face make her look worse than she is. Just snipping the shark "beard" reveals she's actually kinda cute.
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>>230808703
>>230809049
Anons?
Also, should I be using other reshades? Are they better?
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>incels still seething
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>>230810083
>>230810001
Why are you still replying to this guy
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>>230810121
>promotional image looks far worse than the fucking in-game model.
but the promotional image IS the ingame model

you are seeing things in the low res video because you want to see things
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>>230809879
>dreadfleet lore says she was attractive enough to get the attention of everyone on Jaego's ship
>he even fucked her and describes her as feminine
They were pirates m8. Anything with 3 holes would be attractive
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Check it out guys, she doesn't look THAT bad. Calm down, incel nazis.
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>>230809968
Yes. Sigmar helped Luthor, Franz and many others, but couldnt help him one of the most devoted men to him in a critical time in which he saw the revelation.

His anger is rightfully since all his life he served Sigmar only to find out that he belonged since the beginning to the Chaos Gods.
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>>230809759
t. shit taste

>>230809938
>waifufags
degenerates bitching about a C-List character from a spinoff game. amazing

truth be told, I'm glad they made her ugly as sin so you retards won't flood this general with badly written fishgirl erotica
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>>230810084
Embrace the vamp anon. If only for a night.
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>>230809968
The end justifies the means. Chaos must be brought to justice even if he has to do it from the inside. Archaon is the unsung hero of Warhammer.

>Let’s face it – one day, this Archaon guy is probably going to conquer the Mortal Realms – and he’s been pretty clear that the Chaos Gods are next on the chopping block. Best get him first. Worse comes to worst, Khorne can always act like he was “testing” the Everchosen…

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/06/20/19th-june-the-top-8-skulls-khorne-wishes-he-could-add-to-the-skull-thronegw-homepage-post-4fw-homepage-post-4/
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>>230810223
>>230810256
>they're just more leftypol falseflaggers trying to drum up pol fatigue
Oh, my bad, carry on shitting up the whole fucking site.
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>>230810302
>fishgirl erotica
I hope writefag does it. And also Silver Princess x Ewald.
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>>230810084
Waging war on Middenland or Nordland is usually a bad idea. The fuckers turtle up HARD. in my current game I confederated Middenland (he had underdog) then declared war on Nordland (he had HATES EMPIRE).

It took me for FUCKING EVER to take Nordland, as he had full garrisons and walls on both his cities and two full stacks he just bounced between them. I ambushed the fuckers, then had to deal with fucking Norsca running around my interior. when I finally chased them off, burned the whole southern coast of Norsca to the ground, and secured nordland - I turned around and basically the entire western half of the empire was gone, eaten by Kislev, Skarsnik, and the vampires. So now begins my grand reconquista as I wipe out the goblin SHITS and then the vampires and then turn north to push the fucking ruskie shits back into their ice hovels. At which point chaos will prob attack.
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How do you feel about ME now that the two most interesting omissions, Sudenburg and Oreon, were brought back?
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>>230810364
It's all a conspiracy!
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>>230810302
Well your stuck with skaven furfags either way
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>>230810160
Dont bother.
You wont get the answer here, all of those faggots are too busy with that irrelevant shitstorm because some mutant is not a pretty waifu.

>>230810318
Fuck off you undead leech. I will end your kind, just you wait faggot.

>>230810440
Middenland is not so bad. Yeah Nordland can be a pain in the ass but im not in a war with them yet.

I need to expand but i kinda lack the ability - all of my neighbours have NAP with me, i dont want to touch Gobbos etc.
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>>230810476
Loading times/10
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>>230810580
I know the feeling. Stomp out the two nearby orc tribes for some free rep, or sail north and fuck up snow niggers. You can go after gobbos once you have mortars
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>>230810476
Much better, but I'm wondering what else they will add with the next few DLCs. Albion is probably coming as a new province, but what else is left?
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>>230810495
>autists wasting their lives spamming other autists is a conspiracy
t. falsefag
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>>230809879
Cringe
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>>230810476
Fun, great but dragged down by imperfections, cut corners and bugs. Close to greatness but falls short. Ultimate tease, no release.

Pretty much everything by CA.
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>>230810258
>one of the most devoted men to him in a critical time in which he saw the revelation.
he was a literal nobody too weak to upholding the faith he claimed to have, sigmar had no obligation to show up, nor any way of doing it due to tzeentch
>but the miracles of the other priests
it's all due to their own faith allowing it, archaon literally had less faith than your average warrior priest, such a pussy he was

>His anger is rightfully
lol no
even he knows he's being stupidly edgy, even his allies point out his hypocrisy, he was proven to be wrong in multiple occasions, with valten first and then sigmar reincarnated himself, his reaction was the one typical of the sperglord: incomprehensible screechings and ragequit, except the only game to turn off was warhammer
he doesn't even try to pretend to be right now in age of sigmar since he proved himself and his intents to be hypocritical so fucking much
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>>230810476
More variety is welcome. I wonder why there is no option to have combines maps without reduced amount of provinces. I mean I can imagines that some computers could run it.
>>230810580
>Dont bother.
>You wont get the answer here, all of those faggots are too busy with that irrelevant shitstorm because some mutant is not a pretty waifu.
I will ask again after shitstorm.
>Fuck off you undead leech. I will end your kind, just you wait faggot
Rude, don't talk to noble ladies like that.
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I mean I'm racist as shit but I don't get why these two female characters matter in a fantasy game.
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I am excited that Cathay is probably going to happen in WH3. Can't see Nippon or Ind happening though unless GW has a plethora of design docs.

LL 1 = Dragon Emperor
LL 2 = Monkey King

Units:
Cathay bannermen
Emperors bodyguard
Monkey Warriors
Warrior Monks
One Horned Ogres
Temple Dogs
Terracotta warriors
Terracotta crossbowmen
Ki-rin Calvary
Ogre Maneater Mercenaries
Ornate Cannons
Hill Warriors
Crow-Men


All taken from the lore. There is more than enough there. Wew.
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>>230808952
>>230809296
>All of this headcanon
W E W
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Ella is really into vampires, her profilage image is vampire cosplay for fucks sakr.So this is why we got 2 female leaders.
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>>230810732
But why do you choose to waste your life like that?
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>>230810695
Have you looked at the Empire? The heart of the setting, yet it's by far the most sparsely populated area in the entire game. They can always add more settlements to the Empire

>Laurelorn forest Wood Elves
>more Skaven and Greenskin lairs
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>>230810759
Honestly Age of Sigmar is the ultimate shit on him. How'd that plan work out?
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Reminder Warhammer 3 will still
be 4 chaos factions and Ogres and Chaos Dwarves as DLC.
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>>230810809
Cathay is probably never ever BUT that's a shame cause it actually has some interesting units
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I'm not a Warhammer lore buff. What is the 3rd game going to cover before Mortal Empires is added to it?
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>>230810351
>and he’s been pretty clear that the Chaos Gods are next on the chopping block.
according to him they were supposed to be on the chopping block along with the old world

he's wrong and incapable of not acting exactly as the gods want him to, he's their best puppet, the one believing to not be a puppet
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>>230810909
Are there female ogres or will CA have to get creative again?
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>>230810928
Don't see why it can't be done as DLC. The Mountains of Morn aren't that far away.
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>>230809721
Khalida fucking hates vampires, she would not associate with them.

Aranessa is just a pirate lord, who happens to fight vampires.
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>>230808952
>>230809296
peak headcannon there welsh dragon
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>>230810909
2 Chaos god factions, Chorfs and Ogres. Kislev pre-order bonus. Later campaign packs for remaining Chaos Gods and several lord/unit pack DLCs for all factions.
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>>230810841
it didn't

archaon was supposed to kill himself on his sword at the end of the world according to his creator>>230810968
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>>230809721
>>230810812
>>230811007
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>>230810949
Dark lands mainly and mountains of morn and probably the chaos wastes.
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>>230810996
But the game is an alternate timeline, anon. Khalida changed her mind and now has vampire subordinates. In fact, her vampire faction can still declare war on other vampire factions. Why are you being a nazi about this?
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>>230810949
The darklands and chaos wastes.
The 4 starting races will be Daemons of Chaos, Chaos dwarfs, Ogre Kingdoms, and Kislev. (Ignore anyone who says we're getting more than 1 daemon faction, they're actually retarded). Possible dlc races include Hobgoblins and the Kurgans.
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2 hours left. /twg/ is gonna freak
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>>230810968
only this one

but it would be offensive to the trans community, we can't have that
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>>230811041
Kislev isn't happening. And nope. It's 4 chaos gods, you'll just have to accept the others are coming as DLC.
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>Spendin' time wit da ladz...
>JustGreenFings
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>>230811181
Kislev is led by a strong woman. It's 100% happening, no matter what.
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The Empire with Necromancers when? I mean you can just shoehorn to include that this Necromancer is fighting for Sigmar but since the provinces can churn out enough able bodied troops to fight at the front, he has to make uses of the corpses to hold the line.
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>>230810949
I genuinely hope it's the chaos realm

but it will be the darklands
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>>230810968
There has been no official WH art or models of female ogres.
>>230811176
That's a male ogre disguised as a female ogre.
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>>230811181
I've made peace with 4 chaos factions, as long as I get everyone else as DLC
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Are the battle maps in Warhammer tinier than the older Total War games? I'm a noob so I'm not sure if it matters but it feels like I get barely any space to maneuver.
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>>230811181
>It's 4 chaos gods
I doubt it would be a good idea, not everyone wants to play daemons or pay a full price for that.
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>>230811152
The most likely scenario

Kislev has nothing to do with the Darklands/the general area where the game will be set. I have no doubt it could be a pre-order bonus for mortal empires though.

Cathay will be one of the main factions for game 3 alongside Chorfs, Ogres and Daemons of chaos.

DLC will likely be Kurgans as you said, Hung, or Hobgoblins.


DOW and Araby will be done in 2019 for WH2.
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