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>News
http://maplestory2.nexon.net/en/news
Patch Notes - http://maplestory2.nexon.net/en/news/article/38231/november-8th-scheduled-maintenance
Producer Blog - http://maplestory2.nexon.net/en/news/article/38168/producer-blog-state-of-the-game-week-4
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>/ms2g/ Guilds
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Reply to OP with name and server for invite.
If you've made a new guild, reply to OP with the guild name and server.

>Useful Info
https://pastebin.com/rZ79ySdY

>FAQ (ctrl+F this before asking stupid shit)
https://pastebin.com/id9TbQAR

>Reminders
do your dailies
there is no /ms2g/ discord, fuck off back to the general whence you came

>Raidshit
Overtuned to shit. Stay tuned for probable nerfing coming soon(tm)

>Dev test of Chaos Devorak:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fs4pf5L0tjk

the "current" ""hangout"" is at ch 44 Coco Island or the Aniki house in Queenstown

Previous Thread: >>233766545
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/ms2g/ will fear the itc
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Man, a lot of girls sure play this game!
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*cums on first post*
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lol why are you guys having so much trouble with cdev just like be yourself, all you gotta do is enchant +15 is ez bro
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Reminder that Runeblade > Bershitker
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art of jedd getting gangbanged by men wearing jedd masks WHEN
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>>233793297
based
>>233793308
trannies aren't girls
>>233793316
*licks it up*
>>233793328
brainlet, you're a buffslut just like archer, you have no damage
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NO ENTRY
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moo crew will rise
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>>233793359
100% based post
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>tfw no maplegf
>even if I did, it's not like she's an actual female IRL
>ywn intertwine your fingers with hers, and tenderly and affectionately hold hands
>ywn embrace her and feel the warmth of her body against yours
>ywn fall asleep in each other's arms, whispering sweet nothings and exchanging "I love you"'s
>ywn kiss her on her forehead and wish her sweet dreams before going to sleep
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>>233793424
Now this is shitposting
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>rolled both the rng hairstyles I wanted
nice
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fuck berserkers
fuck bunnies
fuck cats
fuck NAEast
and most of all FUCK FAT COWS
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>>233793379
Moos are for breeding
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Anyone want a doodle? Can't do many.
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>>233793563
can you doodle my noodle?
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>>233793563
Is this your character?
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>>233793563
draw what you imagine this poster's >>233793316
character looks like
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>>233793563
Draw the gobb
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>>233793361
What are you gonna do about it? I'm already inside.
>>233793563
Doodle yourself, your character is cute.
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Surely you could have chosen a better person to count on?
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>>233793379
>tfw my first time in someone else's screenshot
I look half asleep but I'm happy I could be there.
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>>233793361
But Anon, it's you who has entered. My heart.
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>>233793669
cute bunners half hiding
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>>233793616

rude!
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Is NaCl even a /vg/ guild? Doesn't seem like it.
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>>233793424
I think Teraa is looking for new friends
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>guy disconnects
>his friend says we can't do the rest
>tell him to just buy red daisies
>he doesn't say anything and just leaves
holy fucking shit i want out of these shit fucking hard dungeons already fuck this RNG grind fuck these braindead toddlers fuck the fucking gook kikes
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>>233793563
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>Tfw I've been beaten to a clear on East already
It's not fair bros....
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+11 is all you need bro you only need 3.7k attack to do ~6 million damage a minute to the cdev that we're facing just be yourself
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>>233793708
>counting on a berserker
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>>233793619
yup!
>>233793616
nope!
>>233793668
already did!
>>233793669
thank you! i might later
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>>233793563
Draw my monkey buddy!
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>>233793563
>>233793361
draw me holding this smugly.
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>>233793881
Honestly, berserkers are the one class that I have been impressed with the most
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Holy shit Iron defense kills deeps by 30% now
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>>233793901
>>233793379
Draw one of these moos
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>>233793901
Okie doke. I'll doodle you sometime then!
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Reminder that if you don't have 12 raid clears where you topped the damage chart and didn't die as well as having 1500 trophies you are too far behind and should just quit.
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why do bullets feel so much weaker than the lasers, the enemy health doesn't seem to go down at all compared to blast charge
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>>233793938
do you only have one finger or something?
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>>233794005
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>>233793379
No thanks, I'd rather cuddle with the cute bull
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>>233793379
Moo crew grew.
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At what point can I expect guilds to invite me instead of me chasing them? 1k trophies and +15 weapon?
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>>233793563
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>>233794173
>that face
>that eye color

it can't be...
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>>233794167
If they haven't already it's because you're a dps job.
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>>233794018
I haven't even touched berserker yet, I'm just talking about what I've seen from people in general in CDev so far. 'serker players seem to be the most reliable consistent non-dying ones of the buch. Of course it's not that hard when you don't have much to worry about in the first place.
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>>233794259
whats up
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>>233793236
Why is the thief set so ugly?
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>>233794005
Not only do I top the charts anon, I do more than a 50% share and I have over 3000 trophies I'll have you know.
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day 12... they still don't know i'm a cat and not a cow
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>>233794483
they know, they are just waiting
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who else /trevafarm/ because they /arebeingexcludedfromchaosraidsbecuasetheyaren'tinthetop10oftheirguild/ here?
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>>233794162
>not a cow, poser
>vanilla cow
>shota bull
>futa cow(bull)
all bases covered, no more cows required.
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>>233793842
Is this Rollie's sister?
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>>233793236
>>233793870
That video was a crock of shit. This is a even bigger shit in the face being a thief. My damage is nowhere near that and yet my gear should warrant more than what he got.
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>guy in world channel says he will draw lewds of your character for 3mil
seems like a pretty good deal
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>>233794162
I want to sniff Hildi's sweaty feet!
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>>233794781
east?
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>>233794895
no, on the best coast
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>>233794585
Waiting for what though?
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>>233794781
Does he take dabbing requests? I need enchanting luck.
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>>233793669
i WILL mating press your bun
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>>233795012
so east?
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>>233795034
Pretty obvious what and it's very lewd
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>>233794609
You're in a shit guild apparently.
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>>233794609
east or west? I can treva farm with you tomorrow
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>>233795093
NO STOP
bunnies are for tender anal love making only
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>>233795189
he wasnt asking if anyone wanted to farm treva with him
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>>233795356
based
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>progression gated by RNG
>no way to grind to offset bad luck
what did nexon mean by this?
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>3.5k+ GS party>leader and one other are both 3k GS
epic
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>>233795189
some of you trannys in this thread are pathetic
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>>233794694
this. surprised the devs aren't getting shit for that video. haven't seen many comments about it on twitter or youtube.
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So is it true that even +14/+15 isn't enough for this? You also need all pierce/boss damage purple/max rolls on every single piece of gear just to clear?
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>only half the onyx i need to try again for +12
>dungeons capped for today
>know it's just going to fail again anyways
this shit's so fucking RETARDED
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When are we getting the cool boy gang together?
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>>233795579
just buy meso and then buy more onyx lmao
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Stop hitting on my wife.
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>>233795578
Yes
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is this good enough to get erp?
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My girlfriend is taller then me!
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>>233795792
stop being a cuck and watching and do something about it faggot
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>>233793971
i was actually drawing my own, so i'll fulfill this request coincidentally!
no more chibi style, thank god.
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>>233795910

I am. It's still rude.
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>>233795849
why the fuck do you have 19 mag piercing?
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>>233795578
Nexon went so balls deep with the difficulty only korean minmaxers managed to complete it.
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>>233795813
Das fucked up
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>Be top damage every single time
>Watch team die like reatards
>Always last one standing
>All the good organized guilds with the most players up to my dmg speak a different language
>My guild only has other 5 players with +4500
>At least 2 of them have normal dungeon epics at +10

Please end me, I'll never get to finish this shit
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>>233795515
>>233795373
literally just trying to find people to play the game with. this general is full of autistic faggots
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did the boss for the first raid have that much hp in the korean version?
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How'd I do?

>>233795871

MY UNCLE IS TALLER THAN YOU
REISEN GOES TO SCHOOL BY BUS
if someone gets this dumb reference i'll consider doing something obscene with you
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>>233796173
is that west? so fucking dead if so
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>awakening thieves get a second dash, a ranged-attack mode, a spammable dodge+mega attack that constantly activates retaliation, and the ability to max out retaliation, mesoguard AND haste while still having an actual attack skill maxed as well

fucking 2nd job W H E N
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>>233796173
dum tewi
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good morning did they nerf the raids yet
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>>233796351
no reddit is saying hard=good so they wont nerf it
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This week should I run FD for a chance to +15 or rog for better pendant/cape rolls or chance for wings?
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>>233796390
Reddits retarded it's not hard it's tedious. It gives no better feeling than attacking a dummy.
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>>233796390
wtf I love reddit now? When did 4chen become a bunch of casuals?
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>>233796390
It's a sandbag boss. Get your weapon to +15 or wait for the eventual nerf.
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>>233796652
That's exactly how i feel fucking youre mo m
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>>233796635
damage bonus from 15 is stronger than slightly more piercing
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>>233796635
Lab until +15 then balrog for wings
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>>233796652
who woulda thought that fighting a giant hp sponge wouldn't be any fun
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>>233796302
YES
YES YES
YES UHUH YES YES YES
TEI TEI TEI
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>doing raid
>random yotsuba in party
>oh maybe they will be good
>they end up first one unable to revive
Go figure
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>>233796816
>Lab
Anon, I am way too brainded to get out of my comfort zone and try to understand how Lab works.
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>>233796390
>Raid is remotely difficult
>/vg/ cries for nerfs
>Reddit is fine with it
Has Reddit surpassed the trannies of /vg/??
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>>233796295
having no friends is pretty badass not gonna lie. If you're able to stomach the existential loneliness it's a pretty comfy way to live.
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>>233796120
my guild has 15 people with 4500+, at least +11 weapon, and aren't completely braindead and yet we still can not get past 50% but the meso buyers can do it so look on the bright side anon :)
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>>233796902
Lab is the epitome of brain dead.
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>>233796295
I bully you because i Lke you
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>>233796902
Kill things in a one-way hallway
Kill boss on platform

It's called labyrinth but it's actually just as linear as anything else
nutaman temple is literally more of a labyrinth
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>>233796902
Lab is a much faster and simpler boss than FD with a couple rooms of brainless trash before it
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But i use no pots in FD, just sit in hole and slash
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>Raid isn't difficult in the slightest
>Bulletsponges and Number checks instead of engaging and difficult mechanics
>People call this good
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>>233796942
>+11 weapon
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>>233797140
You can deal damage from the hole?
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>>233796902
Lab is times faster than FD and has less mechanics
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>>233796902
Lab is much quicker. There's 3 stages before boss
1st stage kill monsters and be careful on poison floor
2nd stage kill monsters near steam pots, throw pots at lizard men
3rd stage split up and kill monsters, watch out since there's an easy to dodge attack that dizzys you

Boss: Patterns are easy I don't even need to explain them. Kill adds if party isn't strong enough.
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>>233793236
for real though, do you guys think the raid will get nerfed?
that video released was insanely misleading, and I wish that the thief posted actual stats. The fucker probably had max piercing and boss damage rolls on everything
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>>233797186
some classes can
some cant
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>>233797186
Some attacks, like both Zerk's Spin and Void Slash, Knight's thousand needles stab poke. I think that's it actually. Maybe something on RB but ran out of slots to try that out.
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lubelisk is the most satisfying hard mode to speed through proo me wrong
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I am supposed to be using Impact on RB, right?
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>>233797257
Priest holy blast can, as well
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What are your reasonable wishes for cdev?
Mine are
>adds heal boss for maybe like half of what they currently do
>change middle adds so the most viable option isn't for the knight to just park them at the entrance
>50 or 100 million less hp
>shadows a little more visible
>make red fart attack look less like a giant red fart

the memory leak is the real challenge. restart your game before your next raid, you are guaranteed to do much better. it's fucking retarded.
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>>233797257
RB can hit from the holes with Impact and Echoing Blades, but the later fucking sucks so only do it if you absolutely have to go into the hole
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Game servers dying?
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>>233797247
If you have done a CDev run you'll probably realize that his defenses are buffed compared to the video. My thief does nothing compared to that thief.
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>>233797203
>>233797236
POISON, DEEP WOUNDS, CARL
also both are just as quick if you have a priest, but lab can be s-ranked without one.
>kill adds if party isn't strong enough
to hell with that logic they only heal ~100k per tick and it doesn't stack it's easily out-dps'd
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>>233797371
t. shitter

git gud, scrub
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>>233797174
supposedly that is the "requirement" to "complete" the "raid" but i think we have only one person with +11. i don't know what the rest of them are at actually i don't inspect every single one of the guild members okay i'm not autistic
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>run Lab
>2 Thieves in the party and I kinda expect the boss to take a while
>we've actually burned through all 3 rooms real fast and killed Kabo in under 7 minutes
>I'm actually questioning all I have heard about Thieves since I've never even gotten runs this fast with 2 Zerkers and a Wizard in the party
What have Thieves genuinely been hiding from us???
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>>233797257
you can dark breaker in the hole too
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>>233797273
Relying on boss pattern rng for a faster run is not fun.
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>>233797353
On CD, it's your strongest attack. While it's down use Whirling to keep spirit from capping and Flurry inbetween, plus Chasm on CD if you're Lightning.
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>>233797247
>>233797398
>full party in +11 gear gets the boss down to 45 mil or so hp
>said run still has party members die constantly
>this dev run ALSO lets the adds get off multiple heals
>lastly, the god damned run doesn't even have a knight that uses shield toss
they definitely buffed the shit out of the defense stat because using shield toss on the boss was basically a 1.5x damage multiplier when I was attempting it earlier. normally shield toss never gives a damage increase that is that nutty

I fucking hate that the supposed "recommended equipment" is a fucking +11 weapon, there is no way in hell a full party of +11s can get close to clearing that
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>>233797476
*within the 7 minute margin
It's 3 AM my brain is just done
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>>233797476
The fact that to perform good enough to keep up with the other classes you have to try exceptionally hard and usually chug potions on cooldown because playing optimally usually means getting hit a lot
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>>233797414
oh so you like being red farted on by a bullet sponge? you like when a fart is huge, and red? disgusting
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>tag world boss
>fly up high
>continue to shitpost on /ms2g/

Who else /smartypants/ here?
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Nu male has arrived!
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>>233797476
>>233797561
thieves are better in hard dungeons this patch because fair fight doesn't gut all of their passives anymore
the main problem with thieves now is that leveling them is aids, but their damage is actually decent now. it still takes more effort than just playing wizard or zerker, but it's not completely broken as a class anymore
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>>233797476
Thief got buffed substantially
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>>233797579
>not moving to the outskirts of the boss arena and playing a battle theme for everyone while shitposting
Make better use of that time.
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>>233797629
Boom boom crash
Can I have a Thief build please?
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>>233797659
>the damage change just from removing Fair Fight from the passives is THIS massive on Thief
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>>233797203
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>>233797273
Beyondlink is fun too if you aren't a meleefag.
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>>233797784
That genuinely made me laugh a little
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>>233797476
Thief is actually very competitive personal dps but it has the highest (read: only) skill demands vs any other class in the game
Thief isn’t even bad atm, but people are bad at thief. Hard to blame them when you have monkey classes like wizard but the job itself is a selfish dps which fits perfectly into a 10 man comp where it gets every buff which is where you see thieves pulling top 3 damage on cdev
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>>233797929
Yeah but I've seen good Thieves before this patch and still not get a run this fast but HOLY FUCK the removal of Fair Fight from the passives is HUGE and just literally blew my fucking mind.
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>>233793842
Here you go!
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>>233798000
What were they running? Haste plus vicious and vial or just straight up poison?
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Tfw they never stay around for post dungeon make out sessions, breeding sessions, or even cuddling sessions.

Sometimes I just wanna force myself on the top dps and milk him dry...
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>>233798074
not the bun girl but that art is GOOOOOOOD
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>>233798074
This is so great! Thank you so much!
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>>233798131
why not?
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>>233798074
ughhh i wanna do an art trade with you so bad
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>>233798074
super cute art, keep it up artfren
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>>233798131
I always hang around after school for extracurricular activities
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>>233797371
Shadows being a bit more visible would be nice, I don't want much else but half the time I don't get the red marks on my circle even when it targets me and them going through spell effects is a pain then
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>>233797738
mate do you know how many fucking passives and buffs thief has? the entire fucking bottom half of the skill tree is passive shit.
>increased poison damage against enemies that have the poison edge/vial dot. Stacks if both dots are on
>retaliation % attack after using a i-frame'd blade dance
>mesoguard giving % attack
>haste giving % attack
>% boost to vicious cuts and kick
most classes just have a mastery skill and maybe a party buff. the change affected anything that increases total damage
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>>233798092
I actually don't know. I don't touch Thief so I wouldn't have a fucking clue what is what apart from the obvious signs they threw poison onto something

>>233798074
>actually fucking adorable and amazing art style
>mfw
This general doesn't deserve a drawfag as good as you
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>>233793563
If you'd like to give a humble travelling minstrel a try. wish there was a way to hide weapons outside of combat aside from unequipping them. I'd rather have my beautiful red guitar.
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>>233798074
Damn this is good af!
Do my bunny girl next?
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>>233798131
I always hang after to fish for the rare fish. wasn't aware I was missing out on some pyussy!
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>>233798286
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>>233798230
That sounds like fun, I'd love to!

>>233798184
>>233798298
>>233798187

Thank you guys so much! You're very sweet. I'm glad the general has nice people in it like you.
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>>233798074
Anon, you're amazing!
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>>233798131
>finish dungeon
>everyone leaves before I do cause I'm checking stats on loot I got
I didn't think people were degenerate enough to do stuff like that in post-dungeon of all things. Or maybe it's just you and only you anon.
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>>233798074
I hope you're making more. You have a solid art style and I hope you stick around to make more art for people around here until there's a nice gallery of your art from all the maplers so everyone can enjoy.
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>>233798074
>your character will never be drawn by this god
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>>233798549
Same
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>>233798438
Its honestly so cute anon. I'm so excited about it, thank you again!
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>>233798549
SAME
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>>233798549
>try not to bother drawfags with art requests of my own character but really like seeing what other people get
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Still the funniest thing I've seen all night.
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>>233798880
thanks for reminding me anon and for screencapping it
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>>233793901
Is it the gobbo I'm thinking of, anon?
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>>233798549
Samerooski. Even though my mapler's been drawn once already, it still feels like others get drawn multiple times. Am I grateful for my one draw? Of course I am, but maybe I'm just envious.
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I want nuteaman earrings and kavewhatever pendant I need the attack speed for my runeblade
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>>233799060
stfu teraa
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>>233798438
where can i contact you?
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>>233797247
>>233797398
>>233797539
desu i'm just annoyed that they said they would make the gear score reflect the ability to reasonably clear it
there's no way in hell you're clearing the raid if the party has the recommended equipment that the dungeon directory says you need

even if you were to have capped piercing and high as fuck boss damage
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>>233799060
I know I am grateful for mine, even something this simple blew me away.
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I WANT TO HAVE SEX WITH FEM RUNEBLADE AND LICK HER TUMMY SOOO BAD BROS
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>>233799324
SANS WEAPON????
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>>233798438
Are you in these threads often?
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>>233798074
head too small, would not bang
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>>233799364
it's talking about clock tower in that sentence anon, since you can't get a legendary weapon without beating that raid
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>>233799364
epic memetale reference guise
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>>233799364
>sans weapon
>pull out grand piano
>X X U N
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>change out shitty epics for piercing savage stuff
>GS and attack go down
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>>233799385
Yup! I try to draw here a lot. I think everyone's maplers are very cute and are good practice for art!
>>233799248
You can contact me if you're on West! IGN is Snippy.
>>233798986
Shit, wrong gobbo. I'll get to yours soon, promise!
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>>233799787
Not my gobbo but alright, thanks anon. Keep up the good work!
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>>233799787
Okie doke, I'll post your pic here when I get done then! Good luck with your work!
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>>233799787
>west
my art trade hopes and dreams. destroyed in a word.
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how did the vg guilds do regarding the chaos raids?
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>>233800023
All cleared it first try.
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uhhhh west??
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>>233800023
what raids i don't remember raids
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>>233800023
Mostly got shit on. As to be expected.
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>>233800023
none of them cleared it
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I SOLOED CDEV
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>>233800023
vast majority of players from this thread are garbage and can't dodge telegraphed as fuck moves
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draw the cow with a huge ass please
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>>233800023
>5k gearscore
>+14 weapon
>6.5k attack
>22% piercing after house buff
>20fps
>150 ping
>game will randomly freeze in the middle of the fight since there are too many players and the map is too big with too much geometry
>3rd-5th in dps until I start dying
>always the first to run out of revives
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>>233800485
no one wants to see your mom anon
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JUST MAKE A DAMN DISCORD
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>>233800558
Are you my twin anon?
Also forgot
>restart the game between every wipe to account for god-awful memory leak issues
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Watching people horribly fail simple raid mechanics on streams is extremely amusing
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>Fellow goys we're increasing the prices to prevent spam and people stealing designs
>Barely any uploads to the design store
>The only new designs are straight from google stock photos

Someone is gonna get fired for this shit.
Profits literally dipped because they got too lazy with UGC reviewing. It took me 20 mins to report 80 copypasted designs. It shouldn't take less than that to review when I literally post the links to the images yet they chose to shoot themselves in the foot instead and cut their revenue by hiking the prices.
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Any (former) Legion WoW-fags out there? This CDev is the hardest thing I've faced since Heroic Gul'dan dropped, possibly even tougher.
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>heroic

lmao
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>>233800636
Fuck off.
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>>233800780
Speaking of UGC, here are the new models:
http://puu.
sh/BYMO0/d2fde84388.zip
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>>233800891
I'm not ready to declare it mythic raid-tier hard yet.
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>>233800958
Kiss me faggot
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>>233799951
You don't need to be on the same server as them to art trade anon.
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>>233800485
>the cow
WHICH
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>>233801071
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>>233801082
but how do i contact them to discuss it? if we can’t talk how do we arrange it?
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>you always spawn in the corner of your house

why
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>>233801189
You can change it
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Hit 60 failstacks on my +11
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>>233799951
just
make
an
alt
on
west
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>>233800984
added to a pastebin
>>233801461
don't worry anon, you can do it. make sure that you always sacrifice extra weapons to get it to a 30% base success rate
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Tfw thinking pretty hard about leaving the game now that double drops are ending. I got my gear up pretty high and have a taste of the rng this game has, I'm not sure if I'm up for it.
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A friend of mine is in a top guild and he offered to carry me for 50 million a run
Should I do it
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>>233801623
Hell no
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>>233801461
I know that feel even though Im only on 40 stacks on my +11 and all out of onyx and extra weapons
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>>233801623
what kind of friend would ask you to pay that much
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>>233801734
people here confuse "people i know and are acquainted with" with "friend"
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>>233801461
https://webmshare.com/g7rBP
yeah, same.
so unlucky man, just too many failstacks.
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>>233801734
Don't you fucking dare question our friendship, he's my friend and we've been friends for years but this is business
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>>233801470
>trying to convert people to west
sly dog
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tt3MjOyE6qA
thoughts?
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>>233801872
>Don't you fucking dare question our friendship
I am questioning it idiot
what kind of person does that?
sounds like a bad friend
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>>233793563
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I wonder if you ever get someone arrested because they played maplestory 2?
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>>233801957
>Linking Bryan here
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>>233802116

>>233801872 already answered your question
>this is business
nigga has kids to feed don't ya understand?
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>>233801623
>A friend
>for 50 million

Have some self respect, an actual friend wouldn't charge you.
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>>233802203
kids to feed on a childrens mmo
gotcha
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>>233802241
>what is opportunity cost
That's just less time he has to spend grinding for enchant mats anon and now he can spend that by working more hours on the side.
Please tell me you passed high school economics anon.
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>catfags
>likes futa, usually whiny, first to complain about dungeon mistake but never says anything about theirs
>bunnyfag
>quiet, but flirtyfriendly almost too soon, don’t play the game much at all, minds their business
>cowfag
>quiet, true neutral, practically just exists to be waifus, plays the game by themselves
>hornfags
>loudest, usually quick to respond to anything, usually the party leader
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>>233802625
>ywn have a cowfag waifu

kill me
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>tfw nexon gave us 60 dungeon runs a week instead of permanent 2x drop
i don't want to spend that much time farming FD for fodder weapons god damn it
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Any fellow merchants having a good shekel pinching experience since chaos raid release?
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>>233802796
You know that Lab is as close to objectively easier and faster than FD as it gets?
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>>233802807
wish i were rank 13
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>>233802907
yeah but no one queues for it like they do FD
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>>233802907
whats a tl;dr for Lab?
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>>233802907
>faster than fd
after the fairfight nerfs I was getting faster runs in fd
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>>233802907
i'm sick of lab too though
also FD is faster now because of the fair fight changes
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>>233803007
>kill the things, starting with healers
>forget you're stepping on private property
>repeat x3
>ignore adds, focus boss
ez win
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>>233802625
>no fox
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my balrogs are faster then both lab and fd
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>>233802952
>Use party finder
>Sort by newest
>Refresh often
>Keep your eyes open and try not to be autistic when joining a group
>Ask if you have any questions
Feel free to use this quick formula to success to find many a competent group to the dungeon of your choice.

Protip: most groups don't care if you are less than 75 below the requested GS/Attack
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>>233803024
>>233803064
Feel free to mix it up as you wish. I know I do the same, but still mostly Lab as it just feels overall faster and smoother.
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>gems only have a %25 success chance of upgrading
thats retarded
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>>233803347
>50% chance to unlock socket
heh
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>>233803347
I have yet to see a gem actually upgrade and my friends have never failed an upgrade in their life.
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>>233803198
of course it is but it doesn't give murp weapons dingus
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>>233803347
yeah it sucks but they also never break or get deleted. if you make a +5 accuracy gem, you can remove it from your shitty accessory for like 500k and resocket it in your dank new accessory once you unlock it's first socket. it is low success rate because it is a permanent long-term investment.
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From this picture of the male Maplestory classes, what use would they be in Chaos Raids?
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>>233793563
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why are wings so fucking IMPOSSIBLE to get

i've gotten 3 horns but no varrekant wings
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>>233793842
I too like Rollie’s design.
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>>233804231
I've gotten 3 varrekant wings, but no balrog wings. I don't get it
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>>233804231
can i have a pair of those horns
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>>233804231
opposite problem for me senpai
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>>233804341
i put them on my alts
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>>233803880
>priest
will heal you in a pinch because debuffs are nasty
>zerk
won't acknowledge it, but he wants to help the team as best as he can.
>knight
clearly willing to help out and block lasers
>archer
will definitely clear those healing adds for you
>wizard
doesn't know what the heck they're doing but does their best anyways and listens to others' advice
>rb
will gladly take ice for a split second to help the wizard get a little more dps
>striker
clearly carried, as he stuffs his face with healing items and is trying his best to stay away from combat
>hg
always the one to coordinate/plan the team
>sin
confused as heck and doesn't know devorak's patterns, probably 1st to tombstone
>thief
had to buy their way in to the raid, despite having better gs and attack than the rb/sin
>soul
didn't participate in the raid
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>>233804389
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Genuinely surprised to not see a Jack of Blades mask in the UGC shop, I'd buy it. Is that game already too old for people?
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uuuh what sigil do I use on runeblade
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>>233804431
>soul didn't participate
>Making the raid group actually 10 members
Heh
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>>233804550
ice for more dakkas
lightning for gotta go fast
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>>233804587
should my build be flurry/whirling blades/impact either way?
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>every questing zone
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Is it normal to see a miss on training dummies? My accuracy is 85 and I've never seen this before
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anyone out there in NA East hook me up with a Qipao? Cant get it to drop for shit. :'v
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>>233804778
gotta hit at least the low 90s, anon
>>233804687
idk, just bee urself
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>>233804764
>Not using the bots to help you clear out mobs faster so you can finish the quest faster

I, for one, love my bot friends
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>>233804828
>needing help to clear mobs
hows it feel to be a shitter
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>>233804828
>>233804949
Do bots go to PVP zones for the last part of the epic quest? I would love to farm them.
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>>233804941
>I cant seem to find it in the pasebin.
because we dont have one
go join reddits or the official ms2 one if you want a discord so bad faggot
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>>233804941
dumb faggot
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>>233804941
Nice bait
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>grinded up my gathering skills but never leveled my crafting skills
>tfw alt tabbing every so often to craft 200 of whatever item I need to craft
well at least i'm suddenly 20 trophies richer
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>>233804949
NEEDING help? Of course not. But it significantly shaves off time leveling alts when you have 4 bots spamming fire wave on mobs you group up
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>>233805080
>>233805074
>>233805073
oh okay
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>>233805030
you might find some but not as many as the first 2 weeks
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>>233805030
yes, and some people have actually started to do so
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>people leave cuz no priest for balrog
really nigga
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>>233805180
We need to organize until people are relentlessly farming bots in every channel and making sure they never finish their quests
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>>233805240
oh yes i also love wasting 50 potions on a single dungeon run
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>coco island regular
>posts my character at least once per thread
>hasn't been namedropped yet
Feels nice actually.
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>>233805313
>he's not a zerk
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>update hits
>am leveling an alt
>get to Kerning Interchange
>the Taxi Stop is now on top of the fucking roof of Cathy Mart
TAXIS AND TAXI STOPS DO NOT FUCKING WORK THAT WAY YOU FUCKING LUNATICS
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So do the dummys in the chaos lobby have the boss stats?
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>tfw teraa is on your friends list and turns out not to be the worst person in the world to talk to privately

Why do you do it? Why do you all put on such a tough outer shell caked with layers of built up autism?
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>>233805361
Must been some glitch/error IMO.
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>>233805753
no, but at least you can check your single-target damage, unlike the guild house trio
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>>233805802
clearly he does it to fill a need for attention anon.
that or, hes fucking bipolar because one second he can talk somewhat normally and then the next he goes off the rails autismo over something incredibly small
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I will give you guys a secret. Not only do you need a +15 weapon, but also need at minimum 3 sockets with tier 4 or better Offense gems.
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>>233805934
Actually the bipolar one is/was me for even talking to him in the first place.
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>using bonus attack gems doesn't increase your attack score
holy fuck could this stat be any more misleading?
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>>233805992
that's not all, anon
you also have to be korean and have played kms2 for at least a year
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>>233805992
>Offense gems
bonus attack shit? please spoonfeed me the correct gem
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>Login.
>Play for 2 hours, complete my 10 dungeons and enough dailies for 300 points.
>Logout for the week.

This game is going to die like this.
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>"you are a moron for upgrading your epic weapon above +10 we gonna get legendaries next patch"
>"chaos raids will be casual shit anyway this game is too ez"
>"accuracy has to be at least 96 its very important"
-ms2g
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>>233805992
This, along with needing to be a Nexon shareholder
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I'm just going to go back to FFXIV if MS2 will be like this...
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>>233806338
Be like what? please dont leave me
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>>233806291
>you are a moron for upgrading your epic weapon above +10 we gonna get legendaries next patch
that was clearly the case in the dev video before they buffed him for no reason
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>>233806159
in almost every case, at least early on, it's going to be accuracy (up to a certain amount)
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>>233806284
What are you talking about anon? Now you get to do that for 6 days a week.
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>>233806405
>accuracy
nigga i ran cdev with 84 acc plus the archer buff and I never missed
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>>233806480
Five days, anon
10 -> 10 -> 20(reset) -> 10 -> 10
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>>233806491
96 is guaranteed never miss, between 92 and 95 you will be at 99% hit rate.
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>>233806546
Still better than before, although it would have been nice if they just left double dungeon loot on.
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why are the trophies for skill points so annoying

>500 trophies
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>>233805083
>20 minutes later
>still only up to level 8 in smithing
this is going to take a while isn't it
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Stop playing this game
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After numerous failed chaos runs, I can confirm that this dungeon is 50% stat-check and 50% skill check.

1. Please, for the love of god back up if you're a range damage so you can let melee do their thing - if you stay near the boss, he'll likely aim the yellow tile things at you, fucking up your melees.

2. Don't sleep, look at your char during the shadow ability. I've had numerous rookies die by simply not looking at their characters - turn off other characters, tell your knight and priest to have nametag.

3. Stick close for the laser and just follow through.

4. For the love of god, DON'T GET DUNKED ON.

(p.s. if you're coming in with a +12 or +13, you better be on add duty or that you're a priest/knight).
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>>233806852
Honestly I probably would if not for the friends I made, they're the only thing keeping me invested
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>there are people in this thread that slot accuracy
How retarded can you be
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why are so many pug knights shitters
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>>233806852
No? I literally haven’t enjoyed a MMO this much since ToS beta.
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>>233805262
And then people hop on their cheesy class mains like Knight and Wizard, stunlock you and kill all of you for trying to interrupt the bots they're using.
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>>233793563
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>>233807010
This, but also I just found out that this game is actually challenging, and I'm going to have to put a bit more work in to impress all the cute ladyboy bunnygirls at coco beach
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>>233807010
They'll leave you as soon as they find something better anyway.
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>>233807463
Maybe they will, maybe they won't, gonna enjoy it while it lasts either way
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>>233807229
it seems that way because most parties only have 1 knight
that said, there's a lot of parties that bait the shit out of their knights
>we're killing adds why are you dragging them to the island like every other add killing group does?
>we're not killing adds but why are you dragging them out of the way? just deeps the boss
>Why are you using your shield in the middle area? come over to the side just for me please
just to name a few that i've encountered when pug queuing with some friends
the worst one was a faggot runeblade that insisted on having the adds be in the center purple water and that he be the one to kill them, and he got triggered over the knight bringing the adds over so that they could be killed without everyone having a significant damage debuff
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>>233806397
mfw Nexon has paid shills lurking in the thread
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>>233807570
>maybe they won't
It's just a dream anon.
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all this RNG is burning me out...
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>>233807783
Who hurt you, anon
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How is west doing? Did you guys attempt cdev at all? Put together any progression groups of /ms2g/ or is it all secret club cliques?
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>>233807601
I will say that Knights do have if pretty hard in there, but at least they are fairly mobile.

The absolute worst Knight I ran into was a rando with a partial guild of ours + pub "practice" group, where this guy would literally type out in chat every time the healing adds were about to spawn, then bitch about it when they die .5 seconds too late even though they still didn't get a heal off, then continue to bitch that adds are still alive even though 4 people are dead and it's pretty clear that it's a reset.
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Kaiju post your clear guys. Surely you have cleared it. Right?
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>>233807919
I'd rather not get into it.
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Chinese voices are kind of comfy.

https://streamable.com/r8n2w
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How are Heavy Gunners doing in Chaos Raids?
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>>233808117
>people are taking the chinese fem zerker pill now
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>>233807975
>How is west doing?
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>>233808181
It can be really nice to have one because if they're good at it they can homing missile the healing adds without jumping all the way up there, then resume DPSing the boss
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>>233808003
the guild leader was literally begging the other /ms2g/ guilds to take him with them
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>>233808117
>Open up video
>First thing I hear is "BWAAA BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAA"

What is this Dragon Quest?
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>add 250m hp for no reason
yikers
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>>233808117
can you show off the korean voices too?
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>>233806852
I would but I'm stuck with a potato that can't run other MMOs I'd rather be playing.
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I don't understand the shadow thing, how does it work and how do you not die to it?
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>>233808357
you just fucking run away from it
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>>233794694
Thief is the highest skill floor class in the game. If you're not performing well after the fair fight changes it's because you're a shit Thief. Pick a new main, get good or fucking accept that you're bad and continue farming dungeons forever.
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>>233808203
>People willingly subject themselves to chink/korean voices
You weebs disgust me
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>>233808357
I think it's after the attack that pushes everyone away, he picks a couple people and targets them and a very conspicuous red arrow appears on your character

Just keep moving until it goes away
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>>233808357
it targets people like fd targets people with charges. if you get the red arrows around you, run the fuck away until it stops following you.
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>>233808348
Sure! I'll try and get a video recorded whenever.
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>>233808357
it just works
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>>233808117
Did I miss out on the Berserker train guys? Is their class really that easy to play while still being sleeper OP?

>free built in piercing
>core dps ability happens to be one spammable button AND you can move around
>as long as you are properly geared your damage is very reliable and people know what to expect out of you
>you have no real special skill set so your only job is JUST stick to the boss (pic related) meaning you only have to worry about so much going on during the fights
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>>233808241
beyond pathetic
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>>233806889
>After numerous failed chaos runs, I can confirm that this dungeon is 50% stat-check and 50% skill check.
The only stat check is having a +11 or +12 weapon. Considering how enchantments are exponential growth all you need is one or two high(14 or 15) weapons in your party on people who are focusing DPS and the rest can be +11 no problem. If you have a more balanced group +12 should be the minimum with a +13 or two on focused DPS. Defense doesn't fucking matter because the only thing it will make a difference on is the slam which has a year long windup and if you get hit by that it's your fucking fault.

Just kill the adds. Respect the content. Focus on mechanics. It's not fucking hard, people just think it is because this is the first time in the game where coordination is required and bosses can't be steamrolled while ignoring mechanics.
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>>233808678
Yes, I feel like rerolling my +15 sin for a zerker
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>>233808678
Berserker is OP now and only becomes more OP with Awakening.
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>won't be able to pug cdev for some months
>some other legendary raid will come out by then and I'll be behind
bros...
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>>233808845
guys... >>233807625
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>>233808451
You dumb nigger chaos raid isn't affected by fair fight. His double slash and vicious cuts were getting a crazy amount of damage. While having better gear I am not even getting anything similar.

Hard Dungeons, yeah I notice a great deal of damage compared to before thanks to my passives not being raped.
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>>233808764
now post your clear
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>>233808776
if you do I will too, I just hit +14 Wiz today

>>233808782
Tell me more
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>>233808890
I wish I was paid to be a shill
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I wish akko anon let me fuck them in the butt
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>>233808941
>You dumb nigger chaos raid isn't affected by fair fight.
That's the point retard. You no longer have an excuse to be doing shit damage. You did before. Now it's purely a player skill issue.
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>>233808890
how is that shilling you stupid twat
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>>233809037
It's okay buddy
now buy the Gurren Lagann shades
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>>233809037
HE DOES IT FOR FREE
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I lost my will to play. Even if everyone gets to +15 (((gated by weekly)))you still need to be gemmed up (((gated by weekly))) and have good rolls on accesories (((gated by meso))) and all the pugs are just looking at your piercing only.
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>>233809082
I don't have money

>>233809083
I honestly hope he doesn't. Who the fuck would shill for Nexon for free

>>233809068
There's more than one and you will never know which one it was that blue balled you
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>>233806889
>(p.s. if you're coming in with a +12 or +13, you better be on add duty or that you're a priest/knight).

This is actually the most important piece of info in your post if you already know all that nooblet shit. People with lower weapons (I think +13 min) are OK to bring as long as you prioritize your highest damage dealers to have maximum boss uptime.

>>233808764
see above
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>>233809248
>see above
Literally what I said.
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>>233809123
>Nexon has managed to kill ANOTHER of their own games with shitty decisions just cause tryhard wannabes that should just stay casual keep crying on Reddit to keep Dungeon Limits so people can't poopsock and get massively ahead of them.
Like pottery.
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>>233808890
Do you actually not know what the world shill means or did you have an aneurysm at some point and lose complete control of your mental faculties?
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>>233809074
>don't forget to keep grinding everyday goy
>oh and remember to pay your $5 monthly convenience charge
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>>233809232
Any will do as long as it isn't /that/ one
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>>233809346
See >>233809384
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>>233809069
Did you not watch the video you inbred cunt?
>+11 4.5k thief
>Gets near top DPS
>Simple haste/double/vicious rotation
>Vicious/Double don't go under 10k
>Boss is almost killed though many mistakes were made
This has nothing to do with skill, it has to deal with cdev getting his defense buffed while Nexon tries to sell "Just be 4.5k guys :)" to us.
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>>233809384
t. cocofag that just spends all day talking to mentally ills
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>>233809297
I don't think +11 or +12 is going to cut it except maybe for a priest (yes knights deal damage too)
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>>233809384
You're a fucking idiot. Castrate yourself so your stupidity doesn't continue.
At no point did they say to keep grinding.
At no point did they shill premium.
The only thing they did was bitch about how the current raid is un puggable, and that by the time it is, it will be dead content. That is in no way a shill, your post was stupid, and so are you.
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>>233806889
>when you get to a good point where your group know the mechanics but no one can deal with the adds
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>>233809487
ok teraa
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>>233809487
t mentally ill poster
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>>233809608
t. Teraa the mentally ill poster
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>people demanding 4k for FD now

FUCK OFF
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>>233809481
The Thief I play with has no problem keeping up with me. We're both consistently by far the top DPS in the group.

Your complaint has nothing to do with whether or not it's possible to clear CDev with +11 weapons(it is.) You were whining like a bitch because your damage on Thief isn't as high as you thought it would be.

This is your problem. You're a shit Thief. Fix it or accept it.
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>>233809674
lel, since fairfight all my pugs have been S rank
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>>233809683
post clear
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this bothers me more than it should
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>>233809457
How much you wanna bet you're talking to "/that/" one right now?
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>just got to practice more bro +13 is fine!
Shut the fuck up you deluded cocksuckers. +13 IS NO WAY NEAR CLOSE ENOUGH.
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>>233809561
First of all cool your jets bucko, I only meant it in an ironic manner, although I wouldn't be surprised to put it past some companies these days.

Do you not understand the reaction people are going to have to comments like that. I can assure you there are many lurkers in this thread that are considering whether they can go or stay semi-casual in the game and hope to keep up with current content. Posts like that are only going to remind them that they literally have to play every day (albeit only for an hour or 2) to have a chance at keeping up in this game. Do psychology-lets like you really believe comments like those are going to have the consequences someone who is saying them unironically would have?
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>>233809907
haha but you can totally clear this with +11 anon
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>>233809907
+13 is fine for priest and knight.
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i'm so mad i listened to you fucking cucks saying +15 wasn't necessary, i wasted free time being able to grind for weapons during double drop
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>he needs more than +10 to clear CDev
How does it feel to be such a shitter?
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>>233810092
post clear
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>>233810001
+13 is fine for everyone
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>>233809951
Your post is a lot of nonsense attempting to distract from the fact you called someone who was actually complaining about the way the game works a shill. No amount of moving the goalposts changes that, and neither does you trying to say it ironically because the original posts were not worded in an even remotely ironic way.
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>>233809590
>taking shitposting about Jedd lewds seriously, from me of all people

>>233809667
>
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Can someone explain why that +11 thief was doing so good? and how they almost clear with a full team of +11?
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>>233809487
See >>233809951
Once again I only spend about 2 hours or so a day max playing this game. I pop into coco for a few minutes sometimes to pug a dungeon group but that's about it.
You are right about talking to mentally ills though, since I am talking to you.
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>>233809683
I'm talking about a 3.7k atk thief doing more damage with the same skills I'm using. I used my thief which is better equipped as comparison since that is the same class they used, making it easier to compare than another class. If you were paying attention at all in the thread you would see us talking about cdev's defense being buffed.
>Thief 1 does 10 damage with butter knife
>Thief 2 does 5 damage with hunting knife
>"Hurr its skill"
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>>233810125
No, it's definitely not.
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>>233810137
>i-i-i was just s-shitposting him guys!
seriously seek help teraa
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>>233810137
nah dude that was a completely serious post by you, because I said so
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>>233810129
this but unironically
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>>233810143
because the gook devs baited everyone into thinking they can do the content when infact its locked behind so many layers of rng.
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DRINK WATER RIGHT NOW /MS2G? OR ELSE
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>>233810108
post THIS
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>>233810137
you ERP all day, why would anyone believe otherwise when you're asking for porn
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>>233807142
i got memed so hard by my guild saying i needed like 92+ acc or some shit. never had a problem hitting dev at 86 neither a friend of mine with base 82
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>>233810212
nou
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>>233810143
because they literally buffed the boss after that video was released
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>>233810129
Are you afraid you are going to get discovered Jungsoo?
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>>233810287
Literally can't be ERPing all day if I'm grinding alts
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>>233810371
>I can't be ERPing all day if I'm ERPing on alts all day
nice tranny logic
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>>233810371
you should work on your main before doing any alt stuff my dude
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>>233810143
because the devs have REAL skills and could even clear this with blue weapons unlike all the filthy casuals who can't even get him down to 90% with +15
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>want to start playing again
>realize that i am only at 3.6k when i stopped
>realize how nigh-impossible it is to catch up
>there are even people at 7k+ already
>FD runs will require 5-6k in a few weeks
>i will never be able to catch up now
>dont play the game again
fucking MMO's man
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Friendly reminder Teraa was the only person on the entirety of east to be a fucking dickhead to the only person from /vg/ to clear cdev, and go so far as to accuse them of getting carried despite them posting the damage meters in thread.
Friendly reminder he did this while sitting around with his +8 cannon, begging people that he has made hate him to carry him through FD and Lab.
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>>233810371
>>233810479
I can vouch that Teraa probably is sick of their main and is indeed leveling alt(s).
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>Get S un the runs i go
>Can't do chaos raids because Ophelia keeps messing up
Goddammit!
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>>233810479
Already daily capped and not in the mood for RNG considering how hard it's fucked even the no-lifers
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we should lynch teraa
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>>233810506
Why is being left behind so important? There will always be people that are newer or at the same gearscore to do runs with.
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>>233810563
How do you get sick of something you can't even get to +10
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>>233810506
>implying
just make your own parties
besides gear score is a bullshit stat anyway, the only people that ask for X gear score to enter a party are shitters
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>>233810623
You should stop shitposting.
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>>233810641
Better to do it sooner than wait until your weapon is +14... >>233808956
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#teraalivesdontmatter
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cdev is fucking easy what the fuck
now I know what the shadows thing does this shit is ez.
only problem is the yellow tiles you literally have to dash soon as it comes up anything after you're dunzo.
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>>233810506
People will being running FD in perpetuity to gear up and get enchanting mats for the harder stuff and they will take literally any rando who is above the GS threshold especially now that the fair fight bs has been nerfed
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>>233810874
>cdev is easy
>only one person has posted a successful clear from /vg/
post your clear.
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>>233810874
>dash
lol priest dash fucking blows
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>>233810920
I mean I'm just one person out of 10 but I have the hang of it now.
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>>233810920
everyone agrees that the mechanics itself are easy if not laggy/snapshot bullshit its just the gearcheck thats retarded
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>>233810552
I really wish we would stop name dropping, but honestly the T word is just a meme at this point so whatever. Let's just say that (s)he is extraordinarily blackpilled.
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Here's my predicament. I really want to play this game. I love the house building potential in it and I love all the custom stuff you can make. I would like to make it my main MMO and start working on UGC asap.

However, due to circumstances beyond my control, I don't want to get into /vg/ guilds or post in this thread. Is the population big enough not to have to haye anything to do with 4chan? I don't really know where else to go for game discussion or groups or anything.
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>>233810192
>If you were paying attention at all in the thread you would see us talking about cdev's defense being buffed.
Except it wasn't buffed you fucking mongoloid and the fight is doable with skilled play at 4500.

Watch the video again and fucking pay attention instead of only looking at the numbers popping up and blaming your failure on something that doesn't exist. Look at the way multiple members of the group are keeping DPS going even while they're rotating for the laser. Look at how efficiently the adds are being killed. Look at how evasion skills are being used both defensively and offensively to keep uptime.

Next time you go into CDev try to push the second phase within one minute. It's entirely possible and fairly easy so long as people aren't dying like retards. In the dev video the only deaths in the first phase are the Priests - one of which is built entirely around healing and is irrelevant - with the only other death coming from the HG immediately before the phase change.

Compare the internal testing video to Bryan's video. The testers pushed to phase at the 13:52 mark and had the boss down to 595m health after the teleport. A +15 group pushed to the second phase at 14:23 and had the boss down to 582m. Internal group took 12 seconds to get full DPS on the boss, tryhard group took 7 seconds.

These numbers completely match up with what would be an expected difference between a minimum entry group and a tryhard group. Groups that can't pass this are failing because they're not handling mechanics correctly. That's literally the only thing to it. Do the fucking mechanics or stay the fuck out of the raid and grind more Lab where you can ignore shit and still get your clears.
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>>233810874
>>233810920
>>233811002
>>233811004
seriously tho the raid is easy and the devs are out of their fucking minds if they think that pic related, even with perfect stats, is good enough to clear it
they definitely buffed the defense after they made that video
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>There are people running cdev with more GS than attack
>They literally cheesed the GS limit with shitty epic acc's and armor enhances
>People with less than 20% pierce
This is considered fine because they got the bullshit numbers for bullshit limitation. Jesus Christ just remove GS and add piercing/attack limitations.
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>>233811002
you think you do, but you don't
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Please pay attention to my cute character!
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>>233811102
game population is more than big enough
a lot of people that post here aren't even in a /vg/ guild
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>>233811102
>or post in this thread
well you fucked up that one now haven't you
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Did anyone else just realize that SALT dude is literally goodideagaming? Opportunist to the core
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>>233811149
my guild barely fucking killed CDev with few seconds to spare and they were all +15 and shit. +11 my ass
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>>233811004
>>233811149
>>233810920
>>233811146
OK I think I got the pro meta strat down. Now this may seem like a meme but here me out...
7 Berserkers, 1 Priest, 1 Knight, 1 Archer (for adds and accuracy buff)
See >>233808678
for addition info

Thoughts
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>>233811393
clear within 10 minutes with +11s
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>>233811393
how are you gonna deal with the elemental adds
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>>233811479
>he doesn't know
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>>233810920
Cdev is some what easy but having to deal with 9 more retards as a knight is annoying.
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are raid groups gonna still look at my accuracy as a priest when my only job is to heal, buff and hold down smiting aura?
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>>233811479
the knight drags them cutie
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>>233811361
Yea but his content is still useful, whenever you have any interest in a new game i.e rdr2 u gwt 67654677 yourubers trying to make a name for themselves
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>>233811231
What other places are there to ask noob questions though, are the official boards active? Do I have to go to reddit?
>>233811352
Yeah, this is going to be my last time in it.
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>>233811393
Fuck it, I'm trying this strat seriously by the end of the week.
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>people rush in early to cdev
>he's killed half the party at the entrance already
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>>233811546
accuracy doesnt matter you retard. also you aren't getting invited without a +15, no one wants to carry a random priest when the content is this locked
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>>233811546
Accuracy literally means nothing aa long as u use a potion and guild buff stop falling for the meme
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>>233811656
I do have a +15 but I also have very shitty stat rolls in armor and accessories because of rng. Good to know at least.
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>>233811546
you got it easy as a priest, you pretty much just have to be competent and flexible while just needing the minimum gear score.
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>>233811546
>smiting aura
meme skill. your moving way too much and healing in this dungeon for it to be any use
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Hello guys. I am looking for a long-term RP partner. The setting I have for the RP is that my partner would be a rugged, bruised boy with lots of scars that gets into fights all the time. I'll be the childhood friend that has always been there for him, treating his bruises after every fight while telling him how stupid he is for getting into fights. Then setting out on an adventure together after they grew up.

The RP won't be a flat-out romance as I dislike those, it'd be more of pure friendship with bits of romance as well as good chemistry between us.

Anyone?
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>>233811875
tell me more please I dont want to shit up my first group. im watching videos of the mechanics as we speak. So a standard hard dungeon build will work?
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>>233811505
>>233811583
>t. hasn't gotten to phase 4
you need to kill them eventually anon
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>>233812019
Would you be my aniki?
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>>233812019
gay
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>>233812061
Fine then bring a Wiz and/or RB to clean them up later
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>>233812103
>>233812107
Um... I am a girl in the RP...
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>>233812035
From someone who has seen a priest reach #2 damage consistently in a group regularly getting to phase 4, you can do a pretty good bit of work with the statue and shield.
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>>233812019
Why don't you just get a real relationship like that?
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>>233798074
If you're still here anon, do you have prices for commissions? There's no way you wouldn't be able to sell.
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>>233812035
fuck no. you want full holy symbol and that buff extension. That is your meal ticket. don't pay attention to the skill points. X's are shit so don't put a single fucking point into it. circles are for max points. everything else is fair game.
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>>233812427
because he's a filthy neckbeard virgin
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>>233812308
Oh, I misread that. Welp, I'm a cute b o i so I don't think I'd be able to help. Sorry anon, maybe this look would suit your needs better
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>>233812308
>no romance
gay
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You onry need prus ereven
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>>233812573
Shut up I already said there would be tiny bits of romance stop lying
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Have chic salon vouchers ever been available for f2p players by any means? Just confirming I need to spend 70$ for a hairstyle.
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>>233812019
Sorry i'm a demon boi with multiple personalities
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>>233812572
You look pretty cool I love you but your mouth isn't the mouth of a bad/cool boy
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>>233812019
gay as fuck
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Did you whisper your maplecrush today?
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>>233811707
Is Soul Binder actually good?
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>Wizards are top dps
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>remove double drop event
>RNG gated behind weekly caps
>muh reset on ONE (1) Single character, fuck your alts, fuck them forever
>raids are "too hard" for that braindamaged chibi audience, bosses that would be a low level dungeon boss in any other MMO is considered "unbeatable" in ms2, meanwhile groups with decent people killed the boss with 5 people and ~2mins remaining already
>player numbers are literally in free fall, with the game losing 15-25% of its playerbase every 3 days
>there are several >mmos< and anime games on the horizon (ToS rework, Kurtzpel, Crowfall, Camelot Unchained, just to name some)
>the game will not survive until Feb '19 if the current trend of player loss continues

if you have been on the fence about MS2; Dont play it. Its not worth it. Its BDO lite with weekly caps and WoW BFA gear itemisation and RNG gear that is locked behind draconic weekly limits, even mobile games give you more freedom than maplestory. Exactly zero content outside of Hard Dungeons and Raids.
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>>233813002
I guess it wasn't meant to be, anon. Finally tossing me to the wayside, just like everyone else, huh? But that's okay, I'll prove to everyone that I'm not some bitch boy that's just gonna sit on the sidelined and watch that hurt with how edgy that was holy fuck get me out
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>>233813554
retard
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>>233813519
Priest #3
I'm telling you guys >>233812392
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>>233813554
this but unironically
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>>233811146
>Look at what the knight does
>Stinging Flurry
Is that shit even useful for cdev?
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>>233813607
Based, dab on them Doomposters anon.
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>>233813278
Yes but I'm not sure how good it'll be here since it needs a lot of skill points.
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>>233813554
based. leave the tranny fags behind on this game
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>>233813607
*spends another 500 dollars on merets and buys another 50m mesos to circumvent weekly caps*

AHH CHUMPS WHAT A GREAT GAME

PLAY MAPLESTORY 2 THE GREATEST MMO TODAY! I AM TOTALLY NOT A SHILL

PLAY MAPLESTORY 2 THE NEXT GEN IN MMOS TODAY

WE HAVE FUN LIMITS

WE HAVE INSANE RNG

WE HAVE EXACTLY 3 STATS ON GEAR THAT MATTER

YOU CAN TOTALLY ALLOCATE YOUR OWN STATS! OF COURSE THERE IS ONLY 1 CHOICE THO!!
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>>233813762
braindamaged
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>>233813694
The Knight is probably the single reason why they didn't clear. Bad build and didn't keep up the Shield Throw debuff. In the hands of a competent player they would have done more personal DPS and contributed tens of millions of damage in raid DPS purely through that debuff.
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>>233813519
dick waving contest?
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>>233813806
At least he was doing the cross cut and skill weave, though not with typhoon.
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>priests and knights getting FREE cdev clears
it aint fair bros
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>>233813805
>>233813607
Not arguments

>>233813701
>"HAHA BASED POST ANON, JUST <MEME OF THE SEASON>" THE HATERS!!"
Holy fucking cringe when did I fall into Reddit?
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>>233814016
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What are the best Awakening classes?
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>>233814016
Provide a decent point and receive decent counterpoints.
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>>233813805
*sits in coco island*
>THERE'S LITERALLY NOTHING WRO-
*ducky dances*
>WITH THE GA-
*rps*
>OR THE RAI-
*enchants his cannon to 10*
>JUST ENJO-
*spends 3 hours in the hair stylist*
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Friend!
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>>233814082
Berserker
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>>233813805
keep up the damage control
you faggots do that in every MMO

i bet you also defended wildstar and ToS, didnt you?

>>233814095
read the posts you absolute fucking clown. the levels of denial are through the roof
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>>233813939
>not already having a knight alt that’s 4.5k gear score
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Why is this guy so eager to scare people away from ms2, anyway?
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>>233813939
>priests
sure maybe
>knights
you got your work cut out for you
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>>233814219
he couldn't clear cdev hour 1 of patch and now its the end of the world
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>>233814172
No denial, you're just making up an awful lot of bullshit.
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>>233814245
>shield one two attacks and afk the entire fight
woooooooooooooooow.

fuck knights,
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>>233814219
he quit cuz he's shit and thinks he's having fun shitting the thread.

fuck teraa
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what the fuck is a dab
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>>233814245
>people don’t stack for the bubble
>random dies and says “I think we need a better knight”
Well duck you too buddy.
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>>233814271
Except this guy has posted before CDev even came out, this isn't even about CDev for the most part. Do people just not retain information or does just anything you don't like to hear ooze out of your ears like slime?
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>everyone asking for 4k+ for hardmodes now
this games going down the shitter FAST
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>>233814309
>he only gotten to phase 2
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>>233814450
phase 4 and knight is never in the fight. typical faggot
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>>233814462
Fuck off.
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Sin or Zerk for big dick DPS
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>>233814462
Leak. Do it.
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>>233814462
Autism
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>>233814301
>bullshit
>limits dont exist?
>caps dont exist?
>the only relevant stats are pierce, phys pierce and boss damage
>only stats to put points in is the main stat
>you need an absolute insane shitload of weapons to enhance past +13
>weekly reset doesnt apply alts, this kills your alts permanently
>every class is pretty much just one button, with some being able to macro their rotation like its fucking burning crusade or some shit
>player numbers decrease by 2-3k peak every other day, look at steamspy
>

actually, you know what, i dont care. every single trash MMO has clowns like you defending it, and then one day "huh? where is everyone? i guess you were right after all"

happened to LITERALLY every single MMO that was popular on /vg/
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>>233814462
heck off
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>>233814462
Only faggots censor names. Show everything.
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>>233814504
>having a bad knight
Get a better knight
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>>233814462
Do it. Just expect a ban for it.
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>>233814523
neither
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>>233814462
You both sound autistic, and keep your tranny bickering to yourselves.
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>>233814628
Why
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>>233814621
>>233814612
>>233814528
Let's just say it would take a thread or two worth of posts
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>>233814608
you need help
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>>233814687
What type of logs are we talking about here?
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>>233814686
because thief is best dps
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>>233814608
if its so trash why do you keep posting here. Move the fuck on retard.
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So realistically, will they nerf cdev?
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>>233814724
>le discord
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>>233814687
make an imgur gallery and post the link or something dumbass.
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>>233814775
The worst I expect is a reduction in healing from the adds. Nothing else could be seen as a problem by minimum-geared parties.
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>>233814775
95% sure they will.
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>>233814743
baste
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you only need +11 retards
get good
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>>233814854
I might consider it if people were really interested
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>>233814775
i think at most they'll reduce the spawnrate of the healing adds, since a lot of people have been saying that his attack pattern changed, like hes more aggressive now compared to other versions.
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/ms2g/ attempt when? I think we could do it easily if people aren't brain dead and know how to dodge.
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>>233814945
I am genuinely interested. Who is the other person though?
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>>233814945
just fucking do it. nobody likes teraa and the sooner more of his autism gets posted the sooner people will start blocking/blacklisting him from shit and he'll stop showing up at coco and other places to be a fucking knobhead.
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>>233814775
if people bitch enough or they find not enough people are clearing, yes
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>>233814971
the ms2g guilds already tried it when it launched, and have been practicing it anon. None of us came close. The closest was a group that got it to like 40%. Only one person from here has cleared it.
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>>233814301
>anon posts ACTUAL problems the game has
>problems the rest of you complain about constantly
>you all suddenly turn around and insist none of said problems don't exist whatsoever
I swear I'm surrounded by fucking idiots.
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650m hp is just absurd
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>>233814934
>Knights and priests
>Getting in under +13
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>>233814971
>>233815105
fun fact, in the pug runs that I ran, the runs with ITC were full of shitters and the runs with motivated went pretty well
the best runs were with people not from this place though
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>>233814989
See
>>233814998
Well like I said it would literally take up probably 2 full threads worth of pictures so if you can imagine how much time it would take to go through and screen shot and crop/edit all that and upload it... I'll probably end up dropping a few excerpts here and there. It's fucking late/early and I've been up all night (raiding CDev for most of it believe it or not)
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>>233814998
>/ms2g/ is the epitome of circlejerking dickriding
>someone does something other than follow suit
>everyone loses their mind and froths at the mouth Reddit style
As I type this up I feel a strange sense deja vu, like as if I've interacted with such massive faggots before.
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Is dark breaker zerk viable for every boss or do they all move around too much?
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>>233815134
>ACTUAL problems
Except none of them are "actual problems." The only current problem this game has is with bots and that wasn't mentioned.

>problems the rest of you complain about constantly
One or two vocal children do not represent the playerbase as a whole. The only thing that has been anywhere near unanimously agreed on is the dungeon limit and how it encourages alts... which has been addressed with the weekly reset system.

Shut the fuck up.
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>>233815105
I mean, are you even surprised /vg/ players sucked ass at the raid? You all do more folly coddling and circlejerking than literally anything else. Even Reddit has done better to the point they aren't making a second Nile River with their tears begging for nerfs as one would expect them to.
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any guilds open on east?
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>>233812980
Your boy looks perfect for the RP but I don't know if I can handle multiple personalities...
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>>233815365
your dashes are enough to stick to the boss most of the time, i personally use hybrid smash/breaker/void
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>>233815378
>he actually thinks it's only a pitifully small handful of people
Idiots like you are why things like dungeon limit exist in this game still.
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>>233815293
>people congratulating the one person from here to clear cdev at coco
>teraa the +8 cannon sub 4k gearscore shitter shows up and starts trying to say they got carried despite the dps chart that got posted in the thread showing the exact opposite
>proceeds to whine and bitch that nobody will run lab and fd with him after he sperged out at coco
>wonders why he's still a gearlet and can't find groups
Teraa, whether this is your post or not, you have so little fucking self awareness it's genuinely concerning. You say you don't care when people namedrop you to shit on you, then you complain and expect pity when people namedrop you for no particular reason. You shit on someone who actually managed to clear fairly difficult content, despite not even having the gearscore to enter it. Then you come to the thread and whine that nobody wants to run content with you, and try to say its because everyone is ERP'ing when in actuality, its because you're a fucking dickhead that starts shit at the drop of a hat, and nobody wants to associate you.

Just fuck off or shut the fuck up. Pick either one and do it, I don't care which.
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>>233815198
getting to 60% isn't "pretty well"
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>>233814743
OH NO NO NO NO NO

DAMAGE CONTROL

Berserkers are the #1 DPS
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>>233815447
Hit up 100 Rads Bar and I'll let you in
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>>233813575
Well I love cute boys, but cool and bad boys get the job done!
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>>233815493
You're fucking clueless. If the dungeon limit didn't exist then drops wouldn't be 100%. There is always, -always- going to be something that prevents you from farming everything you want quickly. It's either RNG, time-gating or excessive grinding. Take your fucking pick dumbass but don't imply that getting rid of one means loot is going to rain down on you.
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>>233815413
They didn't suck ass. And nobody in most of the guilds are bitching for a nerf. The raid was falsely advertised as being doable on +11's so a lot of people came in with +12's and +13's. Its simply not doable with that tier of weapons, so nobody can clear it. As soon as people have time to upgrade their gear, actual progress will get made fairly quickly.
The multiple groups I ran with motivated, 100 rads bar, and mother base had everyone learning mechanics fairly quickly and easily, they just don't have the raw damage to complete the fight.

Stop trying to start shit for no reason.
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>>233815516
this dude is 30% pierce 20% boss damage 13% melee damage
>bro no one rmts in this game
kill yourself
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>>233815586
Personally I'd prefer it to just be RNG, at least that way if I want to poopsock it and play the game for 80 hours a week to brute force progression I have the option to, instead of failing all my enchants for the week and having literally no way to progress until the next reset
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>>233815545
applied
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>>233815586
Except we have more than one of those things gating us at once already. And that in turn was the point from the very beginning. The excessive gating paired with the actually insanely high requirements needed for the most recent content.
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>>233815624
Still #1 DPS
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>>233815624
all easy to get as zerk
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>>233815586
I'm not interested in eating the flavor of shit you're eating.
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>>233815774
It isn't easy to get 30% pierce, 20% boss damage and 13% melee damage as ANY class you nignog

That dude in the screenshot buys mesos like a cuck and has god rolls on his gear
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>>233815664
What you personally want doesn't matter. 80 hours a week? Are you fucking kidding me? What a pathetic life you must live to not only have that kind of free time but actually want to devote it to grinding shit repeatedly.

>>233815716
The amount doesn't matter. If time-gating wasn't a thing they'd just increase the RNG and the only people with +15 would be those who play 16 hours a day. It's not a fucking binary scale you retard.

>>233815782
Not an argument. Try again.
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Who the fuck is this Teraa tranny and why is he sperging out?
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they should have done another week of double drops imo
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If I use a change face or change hair coupon, will I still be able to get my old face/hair for free? Or will I need another coupon if I ever want to change back?
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>>233813554
>bosses that would be a low level dungeon boss in any other MMO is considered "unbeatable" in ms2
Post clear
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Does adding sockets and putting gems in accessories increase gear score?
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>>233815502

I must admit my intentions >>233815240
were a bit more personal and selfish, but I have been doing a lot of research in this field for the past few months and I have finally come to the conclusion that Teraa is pic related.

I must report some further disappointing findings that it would seem it is indeed impossible to reprogram such individuals.
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>bro those stats are so easy to get on zerker
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>>233816480
>old fairy belt
he's a cheating faggot.
the top ranked people in dark descent use the pvp console glitch to maintain their high ranks.
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>looking at the gear of people on the leaderboards
Guy in absolute last place has weapon AND top and bottom at +15.
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If I give Rollie the rough sex she wants will she carry my west alt through cdev?
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just nerf the hp ffs

650m hp for the first chaos raid is retarded, koreans had it at 450m hp
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>>233815870
You already run into the issue of people only getting +15 by no lifing unless they take it slow and "fall behind forever"
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>>233816598
>Still believing this
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>>233816635
>you can get carried in cdev
You have just not be retarded and dodge everything. But mostly ghosts get people.
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does assassin want varrekant's wings or balrog wings
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>>233810265
This.. gook know what he was doing.
>>233809339
It's not dead yet give it a few months if they nerf Cdev they can save it.
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>>233816698
I would like the adds to just spawn on the ground and maybe heal less.
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>>233816740
Why wouldn't I believe it? Since it's actually a thing?
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>>233816698
Fucking gooks didn't take 1 hour to sit down and test their own shit.
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>>233816836
balrog wins are for melee new cutie
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>>233816598
you mean the thing they patched?
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>>233816698
Koreans had 350 million.
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>>233816698
But "people" are clearing it so clearly it doesn't need to get nerfed, day 1 at that.
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>>233810268
i instead drank pop, and i think that was the wrong choice
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I'm sure with 20 minutes most of us could actually have a shot
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>>233816698
Even if they cut the HP in half most groups would still fail. What part of "do the fucking mechanics" don't you understand?
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LIFE SKILLS TAKE SO FUCKING LONG
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>>233816909
yes, the thing they patched that doesn't remove the previous weeks rankings so anyone who did it would still have belts.
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>>233816228
Just post some juicy leaks already
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>>233817007
>20 mins and lower hp
Why would they buff him so much here ?
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>>233817007
And less Hp.
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>>233816991
Jeez that's even worse fuck those cunts for making the HP higher
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I'm going to buy Mesos and get a +15 Acreon's Cannon and there's nothing you can do about it.
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>>233817067
>HE DOESN'T KNOW WHEN TO QUIT
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>>233817007
why the fuck do we have more hp and they probably increased his defense stats too
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>>233817134
GG getting your self banned
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>>233817134
Not if I buy mesos first and buy all the cannons.
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>people crying in practice runs
lol
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>>233817025
but the belts do expire lol, anyone that wouldve gotten the belts from exploiting wouldnt have them anymore
and ive definitely seen ranks disappear when they patched it
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>>233817189
stop hiding names you pussy.
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>>233817134
>>233817217
>>233817289
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>>233817213
but merets goy
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>>233817025
You're free to believe what you want but over 6m points is doable without exploiting.

A lot of people who were wearing a Fairy Belt don't actually have a belt right now (unless they had an Absolute/Savagery spare) because they broke the rankings again and they didn't send the belts out for Season 3.
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>>233817332
Honestly getting an Acreon's Cannon to +15 isn't that expensive... It might take around 30M
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>>233817331
Or I could not leak anything ya know
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>>233817134
>mfw heavy gunners are actually the top dps after awakening and people are catching on by making heavy gunner alts

fuggggg
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>fd party finders now want 6k+ gs
nice
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>>233817479
Cool. I don't care. Stop being an attentionwhore and either post it all without censoring shit in a linked gallery or fuck off.
Stop being a (you) farmer.
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>>233817403
Are you fucking retarded?
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>>233817609
Are you? Acreon's is significantly better than the Hard Mode cannons
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>>233817564
Your server sounds like a shithole, I bet you're on west instead of east.
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>>233817548
>mfw trying to make a gunner alt
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>>233815569
sorry anon
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>>233817645
Not that dumbass. The price. Even if you buy each cannon at ~3m you're looking at over 100m on average, closer to 150m with somewhat bad luck.
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>>233817340
why do you reddit tryhard cheating faggots come here
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>>233817645
No shit. Its much more than 30M you autistic gook way to completely miss the point
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Guildie told me there is an item to raise the Bonus Attribute values of gear.

They don't recall how to get it. Where would I go to find it because I like the stats on this thing but the bonuses are just blue.
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>game starts with a promise of it being easy and casual friendly
>ends up with absurd amount of rng and time gated content
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Bait%20and%20Switch
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>>233817747
re-roll scroll?
B4
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cdev when
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>>233817668
>playing on NA
im so sorry
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>>233817782
>absurd amount
>its literally been a month if you nolifed
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>>233817791
Eiki you're my crush!
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>>233817598
Can it wait until later for the full release then ffs? I really gotta get some sleep. In the meantime have fun with this bit:
https://imgur.com/a/GSuKBpf
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what phase is elemental adds?
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>>233817881
W-What the hell are you talking about, anon, i'm not [name], i'm just an anonymous poster!!
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>>233817784
I double checked with them and yeah that is what they meant. They worded it as if it raised the values.
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>>233817740
>Can't get a high score in Dark Descent
>Immediately thinks anyone who does is from Reddit or a cheater
You're no different than this guy.
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all discord tr4nnies must hang
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>>233817950
>People caring about world's first
>When they won't even know if they were really first because not everyone posts their clears and makes a big deal about it
>In a game that's been out for years in other region already so it's been done multiple times
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>>233818121
pay attention to them anon, you give them life
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>>233818065
I'm gonna wife you Eiki
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>>233818198
its been done with 5 more minutes time limit and almost half hp
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>>233817950
who even are these two people in this screenshot
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>>233818096
suck my dick retard
everytime anyone posts anything about OBVIOUS cheaters there's always some insecure turbofaggot cheater that has to come defend himself and they always say the same shit
just go back to your elitist discord circlejerk and reddit and fuck off
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>>233815621
No bro you don't understand you can totally do cdev with +11s and 3.7k attack while dishing out 6m damage/minute. I'm not gonna post any evidence for this even though it would take no effort to do so but nexon posted a totally real walkthrough and they would never lie to us or fuck things up somehow!
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>>233818198
>world first /vg/ poster
only in the ironic yet still impressive sense though
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>>233818280
You haven't been paying attention much have you anon?

Not me but this post pretty sums up one of the individuals >>233815502
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This bitch fight over cdev makes me want to +15 my longsword from +13
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>unironically playing this game competitively
>while also expect competition and """"""""""""""""""""""fairness""""""""""""""""""""""""""
You are all retarded.
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>>233818198
you know theres a ranking tab for world firsts for raids literally in game right?
i agree it doesn't matter, but i think you don't know that exists.
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no...bros..how could this be?
china is taking over...
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ngl I legit hope they don't nerf cdev
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the tiny twin tails are so nice
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>>233818790
Someone should post the Tianmen Square thing to get this people sent to the gulag real quick
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Is Heavy Gunner any fun? I'm a level 53 Archer and I'm so fucking bored out of my mind.
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>>233818790
based
unironically more tolerable than all the top NA guilds
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>>233818894
Unlike your ugly character
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>>233818916
yes, gunner actually requires rotation and not just holding down macro key
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how much of an advantage will alts give me?
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How did the game become so much more unbearable after this single update?
From the RMT people outing themselves with pride to the UGS being boosted in price and Maple Hill being taken away it feels like the ugly truth of this game has been shown to me.
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>>233819069
How the fuck are you even supposed to play gunner? bullet spray or Blast Charge Kit?
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>>233819346
Because now it feels like a grind fest and the only way to get useful equipment is through hard dungeons.
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>>233819346

autists thinking they need to clear content that is meant to be cleared in a period of a few weeks / months in a single day
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>>233818298
All the people who don't know how to do Dark Descent all say the same shit too and it's usually an incredibly angry post like this. Even when there's readily available videos of every floor, people still resort to calling everyone up top an exploiter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydl3muIb4Yg
The guy has legendaries and p2w gear but almost everything done in there up to Floor 23 is exactly the same, it just takes a much much longer time to clear the floor (up to 7+ mins per floor for the later ones) due to the lack of damage. Floor 23 is a hard cap with current gear because the mobs there are immune to stagger (from what I can tell) and they have homing projectiles.

But you won't give a shit about this, you'll just come back and spout shitposts because you can't be bothered actually learning how to do the dungeon.
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>>233819463
upvoted :)

glad to have cheaters like you helping out the community!
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>>233819396
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>>233819453
>its autistic to actually expect content to be playable with the requirements its stated to playable with
Didn't even bring up the braindead gearcheck chaos raid but that's another big shit stain this update brought
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>>233819396
Almost all builds are viable.
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>>233819463
>UUUGH WHY IS EVERYONE SO BAD BUT ME
>I'M SO GOOD
>WHY COULDN'T EVERYONE ELSE JUST PLAY THE KOREAN VERSION IF THEY WANTED TO BE AS GOOD AS ME
>WHY DO THEY GET SO MAD AT ME FOR USING KOREAN HACKS THAT EVERYONE IN MY DISCORD USES
>LOOK AT ME GUYS I'M TOP OF THE LEADERBOARD LOOK HOW COOL I AM
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>>233819463
Hey faggot, want to know why you still haven't got your fairy king belt today and the leaderboards are down? Because they are patching out the exploits. Thanks for the red merits
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T H I C C
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Are there any epic fishing poles other than the one on the fisher's shop?
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which ranged class has the most mobility?
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>>233819970
No
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>>233819991
wizard.
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>>233819846
In awe at the size of this lad
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>>233819650
Kill yourself I bet you do the worst DPS in cdev
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>>233819970
you sound like a pussy
are you a pussy?
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>>233820041
>t. eternal FD farmer with stun grenades and med kit
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>Be knight
>No one wants me in FD runs
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>>233820209
why not, just do rog
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I love chaos raids.

I love how skillfully difficult they are and that it takes more than just mesos to kill.
I love how I can see improvement in myself after every failed raid.
I love how I wont be seeing B>CDEV (at least for a while).
I love how it promotes different classes being required.
I love how it promotes more communication.
I love how it's more competitive being able to see damage output through the 10-man performance meters.
I love how it creates longevity in the game by giving me a goal to work towards.
I love the chaos raid memes.
I love how it makes people want to quit after only 1 day of getting stomped.
and I'm going to love how rewarding it will feel when I am finally able to take a Chaos boss down.

I love chaos raids.
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>>233820389
unironically based post.
mad turboshitters that cant steamroll content 20 minutes after release absolutely SEETHING
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>>233820389

cringe
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>>233820389
Baste
>>233820473
Unbasted
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>>233820389
Based af, this anon understands.
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>>233820389
I love how you need to have atleast a +14 weapon which is entirely based up on RNG to get.

I love how you need to have a high roll on boss dmg on every fucking armor and accessory to do any dps at all.

I love how they nerfed piercing and accruacy requirments and how I spent weeks getting good rolls and gems for those stats.

I love chaos raids.
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>>233820032
not feeling it
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Does anyone wanna buy a 10€ PSC for a 10€ Paypal transaction? Nexon decided to randomly disable Paysafecard in my country.
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I never played MS, but want to start. Is there anything i should know?
Are there any classes that are absolute dogshit BAD, or are they all more or less okay?
Does it have any p2w in it?
Is it possible to somehow grind the cosmetics at a reasonable pace, or will I need to empty my pockets for 95% of the looks and items?
What's the worst thing about the game?
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>>233820902
they have the best movement ability in the game so if you dont like that i don't know what to tell you anon. Ranged wise you're kind of limited.
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anyone want to erp? Im kinda bored
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>>233820943

thief is trash
yes, meso buyers can upgrade their weapons easy and clear content
no, pay up goy
cdev being falsely advertised, weekly caps
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>>233820389
>I love how it promotes different classes being required.

have you guys heard about the new meta strats yet?
>>233811393
and this >>233812125
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>>233821059
Play Heavy Gunner
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>>233820943
>Are there any classes that are absolute dogshit BAD, or are they all more or less okay?
thief was dogshit for a bit but is ok now. most classes are alright. except for when striker comes out. never, ever play striker no matter how much you want to punch.
Does it have any p2w in it?
none, unless you count people buying meso from third party sites violating the ToS
Is it possible to somehow grind the cosmetics at a reasonable pace, or will I need to empty my pockets for 95% of the looks and items?
you can get some in game cosmetics, but most of the good ones are in the merit shop. theres going to be ways to earn red merits in game though.
What's the worst thing about the game?
the steep rng on all equipment
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>>233820389
>I love how I wont be seeing B>CDEV (at least for a while)
I've already seen people selling cdev runs.
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>>233821150
>thief
If someone is properly geared and took all the time into actually learning how to play the class properly and well, they are probably #1 or #2 dps.
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Some things I saw in raids yesterday

People attacking elemental adds without the right elemental damage while being in the river. There's designated people for it and the knights should be dragging the adds to the platform to be killed ( or completely away to be killed later at the first platform). You attacking and doing knockbacks in the river just makes that harder and means damage that should be on the boss is going to waste.

Healing adds not dying. If it's your job to kill adds there is nothing more important. If you're not paying attention and they get a couple heals off then you might as well not be there because they're completely canceling out your damage.

People not stacking. If everyone is spread out then you're missing out on damage buffs, heals, and you're not going to be able to teleport with the boss when he jumps.
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>>233821036
I'd be down, but what are you into
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>>233820209
>Be knight
>Do more damage than DPS
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>>233821059
Thief isn't trash though, didn't you see nexon's thief come in 4th in their walkthrough in cdev despite having only 3783 attack? Surely they wouldn't mislead us like this.
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>>233820884
>atleast a +14 weapon
Objectively false.

>high roll on boss dmg on every fucking armor and accessory to do any dps at all.
Objectively false.

>>233820884
>I love how they nerfed piercing and accruacy requirments
Piercing is still the most valuable stat and accuracy is still valuable until you hit the cap. Whatever stats you have to replace accuracy wont matter.
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>>233821150
>>233821059
Game sounds sketchy then, but thanks for the replies. Will try it out, but less optimistic now.
Weekly caps on dungeons(?) is troubling.
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>>233821036
sure, ign?
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>>233821264
you didn't fucking read the rest of my post. dipshit.
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>>233821495
Ike
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>>233821379
scat and findom mostly
>>233821495
Dek
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>>233821487
10 runs a day, 30 a week. You can reset that limit on a single character a week making it 10 runs a day and 60 a week for only a single character on that account. Chaos raids are capped at 3 a day and 6 per week, no clue if those can be reset though, but unlikely.
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https://twitter.com/JungsooLee7/status/1060790042954674177
>Lots of changes were made last minute based on feedback
literally a revenge buff because we called them shitters
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>>233821598
Wow, that's the first time I've been namedropped in here for a long ass time. Why tho
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>>233821545
I didn't dispute anything else you said anon other than
>thief... is ok now
I would call them more than just OK now if they took the time to stick around through all the bullshit and put hard work into their class.
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>>233821797
>>233821797
>>233821797
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>>233821795
They are just ok though. they don't become great until awakening.
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>>233821357
To be fair, as a HG I tend to position myself away in preparation for the adds, though the homing missiles are really iffy and sometimes animations get cancelled from knock-backs or all target the boss. if I do shoot them the moment they spawn, the time it takes for the missiles to reach, they still get a heal off. I suppose I'll have to just climb up pre-emptively to guarantee hitting them immediately?

Otherwise, I also keep away from the group because it means less movement of everyone in regards to the yellow aoe shit on the floor. There's no reason for anyone to not get to the knight for the shield during the aoe though, since he has a decent wind-up time for it.
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>>233821724
>here's your walkthrough bro
>oh by the way the stats will be completely different
thanks
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>>233808956
Awakened Zerk gets a even more OP spin2win
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTdKAePj8to
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>>233823182
>prefer the void slash build now and am happy it's the optimal build
>will have to switch to spin after awakening
Suffering
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>>233823709
>He's going to spin instead of going full monhun
>He isn't going to invest in the counter and charge slam
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>>233825803
Well shit if that's actually viable then yeah I'd love to do that.
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Be honest: am I eternally cucked as an archer?
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>>233826264
you have the best party buff in the game so no
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>>233826310
It's okay anon, they're all just jealous of our consistent DPS and strong 6% pierce passive. Even though I don't use it because the eagle build is more fun and consistent, and I'm hitting good pierce without it





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