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Let's have a debate.

Should baby legendaries become canon?
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>>32373215
No
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>>32373215
>what is phione
>what is cosmog
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>>32373215
Hell no. They're supposed to be ancient dieties or something. There's literally no point in babyfying Pokemon and this is coming from someone who loves Gen 4.
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>>32373269
Phione is not a baby Manaphy and Cosmog is a prevolution, not a baby.
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>>32373282

Cosmog acts like a baby and even has rattle-looking arms. And the Cosmog you get in SM is clearly a baby since it was just born.
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>>32373290
Many people also act like babies and they're not babies. Your argument is completly wrong.
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I kinda want a fuglet, but aside from that, no.
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>>32373296

Ok so how is something that was clearly just born not a baby?
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>>32373356
How are Palkia, Dialga or Giratina from HGSS not babies after Arceus gave birth?
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>>32373282
A baby pokemon is technically a first stage pokemon that can evolve but can't breed. Phione and Cosmog both fit in that description
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The only reason they don't exist in the games is because they want the amount of legends to be limited. Otherwise, baby legends have been canon in the anime for a long time.
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>>32373282
Please, do explain what you define as a "baby legendary".
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>>32373281
How does them being diety prevent them from being mortals?
They may not Ā«reciveĀ» eggs from the daycare but it doesn't mean they are incapable of having offsprings.
They are just really rare and powerful pokemon but they aren't gods, all thier godly deeds are just myths, religions or ledgends within the pokemon lore or plain normal pokemon behavior interpreted and twisted by generations of human.

tl;dr: Kyogre porn is canon, there is no god *tips fedora*
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>>32373381

Phione can't evolve to Manaphy.
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Oh wait, I forgot about Cosmog. Technically, in that sense, they already exist and do nothing to affect the rarity of the legends because it is also a limited event. Could they do this for all legends? Yes. Is there a reason for them to do so? I don't know. On one hand, it is better to give the player full control over a pokemon's build, but on the other, pre-evolutions were always derided and thus why they're not done anymore. Unfortunately, they still make evolutions available before their lowest forms and sometimes the evo is all that's available and you HAVE to breed for it's lower forms. I hate this practice and want it to die.
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>>32373385
A smaller version of a Legendary that can evolve into the Legendary in yes.
Baby Lugia for example
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Zygarde is so forgetable that everyone forgot it has a baby form.
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>>32373372
All of them exist outside of time and space. It all happens at once for them.
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>>32373215
Fuck that shit that's gay.
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>>32373409

So Cosmog then?
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>>32373412
Ummm...no. It has a small piece of itself that looks and acts like a base form pokemon, but is not one.
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>>32373416
>having an actual offspring (which, in most cases, requires an intercourse between a male and a female) is gay

OK, we hit the daily retard quota, there's nothing more to do here, we can go home.
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>>32373381
but phione can't evolve and cosmog cant breed because its a legendary, is mere casuality
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>>32373429
Cosmog doesn't evolve into a Legendary
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>>32373455
Cosmog and it's entire line is considered legendary.
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>>32373455

The game code labels Cosmog, Cosmoem, Lunala and Solgaleo as legendaries and they're all banned from the Battle Tree.
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I don't like the designation of "baby" pokemon because since it's inception, it was arbitrary. Even then, I think the term originated in the TCG and the game itself does not mention it. What the game DOES do is make all introduced pre-evolutions not able to breed. This makes no sense because all other pokemon hatch as their base form, but they can still breed even when they are recently hatched. Not to mention there is one baby pokemon introduced in gen 4 ALONGSIDE THE VERY POKEMON THEY EVOLVE TO. Indeed, their justification is that it still cannot breed. Yes, I am aware there are plenty of pokemon that have TWO results of breeding, one that can breed and one that can't. We all know this is due to their incessant need to maintain continuity when that was purposeless to begin with. The whole mess is just arbitrary now, and ever since the idea was evidently canned, it only reeks of bad programming. I do not like this label and wish it did not exist.
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>>32373556

>I think the term originated in the TCG and the game itself does not mention it

It originated in GSC and is used by NPCs. I agree with you though.
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>>32373215
what the fuck is the bottom row from
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>>32373619
Speaking of originating in G/S/C, I forgot Togepi is a baby pokemon and it's evo was also second gen, so this flaw ALWAYS existed, before Riolu. It's just that you are GIVEN Togepi as opposed to having to breed for it.
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>>32373387
you're inironically right though. Those Godfags are the same who believes Arceus created creatures in a fixed way and not that it just created cells which then evolved by themself.
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>>32373663

In Gen 4 you're given a Riolu egg to so you don't have to breed for it either.
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>>32373683
Oh. It's been a while, I thought it was a Lucario that you then have to breed. It is directly a Riolu, never mind.
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>>32373409
Not evolve, grows up.
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>>32373381
Phione can breed with ditto for more phione iirc
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>>32373387
>interpreted and twisted by generations of human.

This might be reading a bit too much into it. X and Y's lore seems more likely to have actually happened. Add to the fact that this is a children's RPG at the end of the day and Game Freak doesn't seem to put too much thought into the plot, all those deeds and religious stuff probably did happen in some nonsensical Pokemon fashion. Also, being mortal and capable of having offsprings doesn't mean they have to be necessarily babies. Besides being plot significant, baby Pokemon just seem kinda pointless and filler.
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>>32373215
They already are.
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On that, I don't consider all legendaries to be deities per se. Usually, it's only once you get to the box legends do I consider them to be a deity. Everything else is mortal and just obnoxiously powerful. I will also note that I don't consider all event pokemon to be a legend, and not even all of them are that significant. The limit I place is Mew. That is what I consider to be the first mortal pokemon. Anything with greater significance is not.
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>>32373215
No. Fuck no. Just fucking no. Just give us the baby pre-evo to Tauros and Miltank. And fucking baby Kangaskhan while you're at it.
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>>32373387
That was only Cyrus's emo claims. Said legendaries can basically control the fabric of reality and are essentially immortal, therefore deities. Its even said that all a pokeball does is reduce their power which is why 10 YO trainers don't go around fucking up reality with them. And as per the new tree hugging hippie lore Gamefreak has pushed, Pokeballs dont actually catch dick, Pokemon let themselves be captured by trainers they like and hope to bond with.
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>>32373387
2.
(in certain other religions) a superhuman being or spirit worshiped as having power over nature or human fortunes; a deity.
"a moon god"
synonyms: deity, goddess, divine being, celestial being, divinity, immortal, avatar
"sacrifices to appease the gods"

Clearly these Pokemon that control nature and major aspects of the world aren't gods :^)




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