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Has a pokemon ever been cucked harder than this?
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>>33795276
a-at least it has a neat design
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but who was its waifu to cuck
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>>33795276
>Niheligo has 2 4x weaknesses
>They remain in a modest UU
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>>33795290
Its waifu was viability
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>>33795293
Just went full retard mode, forget my post.
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>>33795293
Ground and... What's the other one? Also
>Hoopa-C manages to stay in RU and viable in UU even with base 70 speed, 60 defense, and two 4x weaknesses
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>>33795276
Too early to talk. It could end up having high offensive stats and speed justified and it would be pretty good that way. Guessing a pokemon's stats based on its design is a fool's errand.
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>>33795294
>>33795294
kek
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>>33795276

Literally my moms Yokai watch digimon. This franchise is dead
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>>33795332
(You)
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>>33795276
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>>33795337
>treating replies like upvotes
How about you don't reply at all dumbfuck?
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>>33795276
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>>33795346
You want another (You)? It's all yours
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>>33795337

The first wave of ultra beasts are passable but assembly doesn't look like a pokemon, and it looks like digimon/yokai watch.
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>>33795349
What's wrong with its eyes
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>>33795356
subjective
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>>33795276
Ledian. Wait, that one was shit from the beginning
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I think it will be fine, RU at the least
The problem with bastiodon and probopass was their limited support potential due to their movepool

This guy will definitely get reliable recovery, and hopefully some weird moves like celesteela has
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>>33795276
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>>33795375

Not subjective. There are over 700 example pokemon with which to compare. Understand sweetie?
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>>33795398
it's your opinion. it's subjective. understand sweetie?
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>>33795356
I can kind of see that. Its design needs to be a bit more chaotic I think. Make some portions of it not transformed completely, it doesn't have to be so uniform. I think GF was going for a sardine-style morphing hivemind made up of
a bunch of smaller creatures (Wishiwashi kinda) so I hope it reshapes into a fist to attack or they all scramble and build up together when thrown out. Would give it a lot of personality.
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>>33795398
Looks like unown, sigilyph with the eyes and "modular" nature
It fits in well enough, and it's a good design
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>>33795421

It doesn't look like Unown and Sigilyph, or any other pokemon. And it has design elements of yokai watch/digimon. So no.
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>>33795293
Nihilego is a glass cannon, it really doesn't give a shit about having a x4 weakness. Hell it even got power gem.
Right now Nihilego is in top three most used UBs in VGC.
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>>33795276
>a bunch of sentient eggs/seeds working in sync
>Grass/Psychic

>a bunch of sentient metallic objects (Beldum) working in sync
>Steel/Psychic

>a bunch of sentient rocks working in sync
>ROCK/STEEL
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>>33795493

Do you think gamefreak just tries to miss every opportunity to be consistent or make sense?
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>>33795276
>complaining about Pokemon that hasn't been released yet

You idiots who complain about its weaknesses will get btfo hard, GF is learning slowly but surely how to avoid mistakes like Bastiodon so I'm sure they will make that thing reasonably good.
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>>33795453
I don't think so, man. Can you provide some evidence?
And it certainly looks like unown and sigilyph, weird constructs with round eyes
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>>33795545
anon, Guzzlord is current gen.
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>>33795453
>it has design elements of yokai watch/digimon

Are you blind or just retarded?
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>>33795545
>implying the idiots who were surprised when people started using aegislash as a special attacker despite giving it 150 SpA, are even capable of learning
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>>33795356
It's the most Pokemon-looking of the whole bunch besides Adhesive and the Cosmog family. Looks perfectly normal alongside things like Unown, Claydol, Beldum, Klinklang, and Sigilyph.
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>>33795367
It achieved Ultra Instinct
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>>33795687
Well I mean it's a sword. Sword = physical. I know what you're saying but come on.
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The Onix Line.
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>>33795715
Steelix was pretty good in gen 2 and 3 and mega steelix is pretty good now

A pokemon doesn't need to be OU
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Didn't James Turner say something like UBs were designed with opposites in mind? i.e. Jelly + glass, huge mosquito, beautiful cockroach, technology + plantlike, paper + sword. Maybe this thing is super fast.
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>>33795874
ayy if this ends up faster than jobberbug final form
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>>33795874
Nah it's gonna be a killer special attacker with lots of psychic support moves
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>>33795377
Recovery won't help it. All that'll do is let it get knocked down to low health, spend a turn recovering, then repeat. Even with high bulk, with two x4 weaknesses to two extremely common attacking types it'll regularly lose half its health in a single hit at least.
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>>33795356
They aren't meant to look like Pokemon, that's the entire point of their designs.
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>>33795917
why is aggron so good then?
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>>33795917
You aren't going to be getting hit by earthquake every turn. With beast boost and proper team building I see no reason why it couldn't succeed

I don't expect it to be OU without some real big tricks in its movepool, though
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>>33795874
So what's opposite with Guzzlord?
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>>33795932
Aggron is PU.
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>>33795940
Looks like final boss material but is actually a shitmon.
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Have we seen it using any offensive attack? I was thinking it could be a spin on Kartana's stats. Still high defense, but excessive special attack instead of regular attack.
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>>33796163
The first Japanese trailer for it showed it using a beam attack from its eye, and I heard a recent trailer showed it using a smashing attack.
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>>33796171
Hmm, not very conclusive then
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>>33795276
Cucked is the wrong word. Assembly was just fucked over.
Has there ever been one who was fucked over even harder? Of course. Flygon (XY). Anyone with a hindering ability (Archeops). Anyone who lost a unique type combo upon evolving (Masquerain). Flygon (ORAS). Anyone who was denied any of the following when it would make sense: Special type combos, certain moves (Ice types in general), certain stats (Vikavolt), or a mega/evo when their counterpart got one (Butterfree).
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>>33795874
No. He only said that for Buzzwole. It clearly applied to Pheromosa as well, but is just speculation elsewhere.
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>>33796236
Vikavolt kicks ass for such an early game pokemon, though
It ain't no staraptor but it's pretty damn good in-game
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>>33796163
>>33795874
so maybe it's a brick tower but actually a phy/spe glass cannon?
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>>33796250
>early game Pokemon
>evolves on third island exclusively
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>>33796261
Eviolite Charjabug can surprisingly carry its weight pretty well until evolution.
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>>33795276
>has a pokemon ever been so cucked
Regigias, I bet you no matter how bad assembly is it won't be as bad as him still.
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>>33795276
I am between Silvally and Dusknoir.
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>>33795940
Enormous murder dragon that eats everything on its path but has the personality of a puppy.
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>>33796261
You mean the fourth island.
At the very end of it.
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>>33795346
>implying they arent.
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>>33795293
>>33795306
>SLOW
>ROCK
>STEEL
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Regigagas
Ice types
Flygon
Vikivolt
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>>33795285
That design is not even remotely neat.
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>>33795356
None of them look like Pokemon.
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>>33796627
I diagnose this anon with terminal shit taste.
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>>33795276
>What is Aurorus
>Didn't even get Aurora Veil

This is nothing compared to that DoA mon
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>>33795874
That seems to only refer to the design. None of the UBs revealed so far have stats that conflict with their design.
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>>33795356
And what Digimon/YW monsters does it look like, exactly?

Fucking retard.
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>>33796261
>trade it when on first island
>can use an early Vikavolt/Crabominable
Wow, that was so hard!
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>>33796748
>offer to evolve Charjabug/Crab right after becoming champion
>everyone ignores the fuck out of me
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>>33796236
This Vikavolt meme has overstayed its welcome. It was funny the first 2 weeks. Why do you people keep repeating it when a worse Pokemon was released 2 gens earlier.
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>>33796760
You can't design a Bug/Electric type based of a spaceship then give it fucking 43 speed. It's ridiculous in every possible meaning of the word.
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>>33796801
You mean specifically the spaceship which is slow as fuck until you collect powerups during the level while shooting and using the Options to survive?
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>>33796627
shit taste
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>>33796816
Either way it should still be fast for Pokémon standards.
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>Adaptive Repairs - Steel - 10PP
>Restores 50% health
>If the battle opponent selected an offensive move, gains +3 Priority and increases the corresponding defense stat by 1 stage
Will it be viable again?
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>>33796847
Why?
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>>33795356
Assembly is no more out of place than Magneton
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>>33796857
because it's

a

fucking

spaceship
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>>33796864
You mean specifically the spaceship which is slow as fuck until you collect powerups during the level while shooting and using the Options to survive?
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>>33796864
So is Celesteela. Do you really want that thing to be any faster?
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yes, serperior
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>>33795306
>Hoopa-C manages to stay in RU and viable in UU even with base 70 speed, 60 defense, and two 4x weaknesses
Its a great abuser of Z-moves though. Ghost being one of best STABs in the game also helps.
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>>33796875
Celesteela is a rocket that has no way to actually lift off without burning everything in its close proximity.
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>>33795276
SLOW
LOW HEALTH
UNUSABLE ATTACK STATS
SHALLOW MOVEPOOL
MIXED WALL
NO RECOVERY
ROCK
STEEL
TYPE

My greatest fear. Should have been Rock/Psychic or Steel/Psychic but I guess they wanted to keep the main trio the only psychic legendaries this gen. If you count UBs as those even though their BSTs are ten below the other legendaries. This guy's design is so cool so I hope it at least has Recover.
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>>33796955
I wonder if it will be physical or special based. Based on the design I'd say special since eyes are commonly associated with beams and shit, but in the trailer it uses a physical move. If it ends up being mixed then it's game over for real.
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>>33796955
It should've been Ghost/Ground, so it could continue the "no reused types, except for counterparts" theme.

Also, you know, creepy bricks.
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>>33795276
what does "cuck" even mean at this point...
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>>33797129

>>33795290
>>33795294
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>>33795356
Well some Pokemon ARE based on yokai but stylized into a pokemonish fashion, while other cartoonish are more of Yokai Watch style.

Also has moon/night affinity like Celesteela, a reason it is Moon exclusive.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nurikabe

>It manifests as a wall that impedes or misdirects walking travelers at night. Trying to go around is futile as it extends itself forever. Knocking on the lower left part of the wall makes it disappear. It has been suggested that the legend was created to explain travellers losing their bearings on long journeys.

As many yokai it may have several interpretations of its appearance.

http://yokai.com/nurikabe/

>APPEARANCE: Little is known about the true appearance of nurikabe because these yokai are usually said to be invisible. During the Edo period, however, artists began to illustrate this creature, giving it an appearance somewhere between a grotesque, fantastic beast and a flat, white wall. Modern representations of the nurikabe depict it as a plain, gray, bipedal wall with vague face-like features.

>BEHAVIOR: Nurikabe appear mysteriously on roads late at night. As a traveler is walking, right before his or her eyes, an enormous, invisible wall materializes and blocks the way. There is no way to slip around this yokai; it extends itself as far as to the left and right as one might try to go. There is no way over it either, nor can it be knocked down. However, it is said that if one taps it near the ground with a stick, it will vanish, allowing the traveler to continue on his or her way.

>ORIGIN: The true nature of the nurikabe is surrounded in mystery. Based on its name, it seems to be related to other household spirits known as tsukimogami. It has also been suggested that the nurikabe is simply another manifestation of a shape-shifting itachi or tanuki. Mischievous tanuki are said to enlarge their magical scrotums into an invisible wall in order to play pranks on unsuspecting humans.
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>>33797211
So it may be a mix between this wall yokai and a typical Edo period castle fortress.
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>>33796748
Great strategy anon. Mewtwo is another great starting Pokemon.
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>>33797119
polls on /vp/ indicated its mostly like type to be Rock/Ghost. I have no idea where Steel came from.
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>>33796955

You forgot useless ability. Think about it, if it has unusable attack stats, it would be difficult to trigger beast boost and even if it did trigger it, you'll only be boosting defense/sp. defense.
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>>33795657
We all knew Lurantis was going to be shit competitvely, so it's not cucked.
>>33795342
Salamance was already dominating Flygon in the gen it was introduced.

You people need to look up what cucked means, the mon has to be good at one point. A great example of a cucked mon is Exeggutor. Literally went from OU to PU. Steelix is another example.
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>>33797119
Those are indeed some creepy bricks.
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>>33796875
What if this thing's ability left it slow as fuck physically but doubled its status and special speed
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>>33797744
fuck off and die, I wanted her to be good
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>>33796171
the only moves its seen using are iron head and wide guard
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>>33796883
bait
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>>33798040
>most predictable starter of all
>not shit
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>>33795874
that makes sense since we'll have a fragile castle
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>>33795356
>specifically designed not to look like Pokemon
>*hmmmm why don't they look like Pokemon*

Brainlet detected.
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>>33797211
>Mischievous tanuki are said to enlarge their magical scrotums into an invisible wall in order to play pranks on unsuspecting humans.
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>>33795309
Yeah that thing's speed has no way of being over 70.
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>>33796855
this is great
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>>33795285
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>>33795276
FOURTY FUCKING THREE
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>>33799706
Vikavolt
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>>33795704
CODIGO CERO BLANCO
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>>33795276
say it with me now

FAST
OFFENSIVE
STEEL TYPE
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>>33797119
>the "no reused types, except for counterparts" theme
????
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>>33797682
>using this retarded logic when people do play with Machamp or Alakazam in their playthroughs
Just shut up.
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>>33800824
anon I know you're not dumb
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>>33800833
No, i really don't get it. Please explain, and quickly because i have to shop and wouldn't be able to answer for an hour.
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>>33800837
Buzzwole/Pheremosa and Celesteela/Kartana are version exclusive counterparts. They were the only UB's to share types up till USUM, when we got UBs Burst, ASsembly, and Sticky
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>>33800843
Ok but where are the non reused types. Only Nihilego has an original typing.
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>>33800648
You called?
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>>33800846
Do you not read? The UBs, taken as a group excluding all other pokemon, did not share types. The exceptions to this rule were Buzzwole/Pheremosa (Bug and Fighting) and Celesteela/Kartana (Steel), which were version exclusive counterparts.
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It's going to have the exact same stat spread as Bastiodon and Probopass, just slightly higher, and no recovery.
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>>33800852
SAY IT WITH ME

SHALLOW
MOVEPOOL
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>>33795276

>implying it won't be good.
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>>33800868
SHALLOW
MOVEPOOL
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>>33800868
>>33800955

FUCK OFF RETURN IS BEST COVERAGE ;_;
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>>33795276
Forgetting about Raichu already?
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>>33801973
Raichu never got cucked.
Often appears as a rival for pikachu in the anime, since Pikachu is a NFE it's a "kid" similar to Ash and the writters will never have to worry about him evolving because it needs a stone. Also Raichu have an amazing surfing animaytion in Stadium, so great that influenced the Alolan Raichu.
If you mean cucked because GF cares more about Pikachu, it's because Pikachu is the mascot of Pokemon.
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>>33795453
>this pokemon has aspects of these other pokemon
>”no”
>but it clearly does
>”nuh uh”
Are you actually retarded?
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>>33795380
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>>33795380
>Cucked
For it being a supposed mascot legendary/related to the previous mascot legendaries in its generation, then yes.

What it is now is more of a shit in-battle ability gimmick. Literally not getting to keep the complete form is disappointing.
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>>33795276
>you can just buy Heart Scales now
literally no point in its existence
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>>33795493
magnetic levitation
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What if it's actually fast
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>>33795545

>Guzzlord
>Crabominable
>Vikivolt
>The fact that the majority of Gen 7 is Fucking slow
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>>33803479
Vikavolt rules, live by your own memes not everyone else's
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Are any pokemon actually cucked? That is, unwittingly raising a child or some analog that isn't there's?
Or are you guys just embracing the degradation of language?
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>>33803715

Technically the nido family
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>>33803768
How so? Technically any pokemon could be cucked unwittingly, because it takes the female species. But I don't see what makes it different for them
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>>33795276
>Steel

Nothing about its design visually tips it off as being a Steel-type. I still have no idea why they thought this was a good idea.

I suppose mooncucks keep getting BTFO though, which I'm okay with.
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>>33803859
But celesteela and pheromosa are definitely the best UBs
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>>33803781

Nidoqueen can't breed
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>>33803939
Not being able to breed doesn't make you a cuckold though
In fact, unless you're completely delusional, it basically guarantees you can't be because you know offspring isn't yours
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>>33803859
>moon being btfo
>when Burst will be UU at best
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>>33795276
Who the fuck cares? It looks a like Rock/Steel. It got Rock/Steel
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>>33804023
It looks Steel/Ghost
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>>33804035
Just because each of its eye is a seperate being doesn't mean it's a Ghost type.
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>>33804051
It still looks spooky enough to be one.
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>>33803479
>Official format is doubles where being slow doesn't matter
Vikavolt is great in doubles and Crab is not bad either.
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>>33804104
This has to be bait
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>>33804104
Vikavolt is immune to EQ and has one of the most powerful discharges in the game, it ain't bad

Idk about crab though
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>>33795276
what if its insanely fucking fast due to just being made up of a bunch of tiny floating blocks
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>>33804035
It's a mix of stone blocks and steel blocks. Look at how the ones functioning as legs are a darker color and have much smoother and more consistent shapes.
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>>33805038
It also has four legs, which is objectively the fastest limb arrangment for ground animals




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