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Discarded >>34872327

New? Read these
>https://imgur.com/a/4rigA
>https://pastebin.com/tggde5gL

TL:DR
>Complete all Trainer Challenges to get free packs (use Cheat Engine's speedhack to speed up AI games).
>Play through using Basic decks to unlock them for versus play.
>Farm Versus Mode theme ladder for Tokens and Tournament Tickets.
>Enter tournaments to get TRADABLE chests and packs.
>DON'T OPEN THEM.
>Trade them for the cards you actually want for a deck you want to build directly, or flip your way up to them.
>Public trade is like the GTS, if you want proper results, put up your own offers.

What themedeck should I buy?
>Buy the Empoleon or Garchomp ones.

What's a pika pack?
>The 55 token avatar cosmetic boxes in the shop. For some reason, they have buying power just short of an uncommon chest.

Resources
>http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/forum/tcg-competitive-play.156/
>http://www.pokemon.com/us/play-pokemon/pokemon-events/championship-series-event-results/
>http://thecharizardlounge.com/decklists/

Trading companies overprice cards, aim lower. Keep pack value in mind when trading. Always check other public trades, even when using a guide.
>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1c1f_CdC_RIlzz_JMfFjBQmfZmgUXjkBlE86EzcJQOI0/
>http://www.ou7c4st.com/card-values.html

Code Giveaways:
>Post them as an image with the QR code covered. Bots will snatch plain text or uncovered QRs.
>Ask for emails and send em individually.
>Post your pulls or your mom dies in her sleep
>Do not beg for codes
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Where's a decent place to sell cards? Is my best bet just trying to put them up on eBay?
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guys

guys

this wasn't supposed to work

this was supposed to be a meme

i have stared into the void and it stared back

aside from two random unworkable hand starts I haven't lost with this deck.
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>>34890327
list?
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>>34890370
I'm probably going to go to 3/3/3 Cynthia/Sycamore/N but I only have one Cynthia online atm. Difference is pretty minimal, I don't usually even play draw supports after the first few turns. I really should work an Acerola or two as well.

Memezone and other zoroark decks are the best matchups from what I've tested (still under 50 games but its promising), buzzwole isn't bad either.
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>>34890436
>I only have one Cynthia online atm.
Buy the Garchomp theme deck, it comes with two
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>>34890468
yeah i intend to which is why I haven't traded for them yet.
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>>34890942
>playing badzoroark

why?
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>>34890942
I haven't seen that old shit in forever, lol

>also, fucking blingfag
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>>34890942
Looks beautiful
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bruh don't delete your shit in shame, just get 4 Zoroarks and you can make the contemporary equivalent of that deck. Eggs are still bugged in online so you can infinitely fish them out of discard.

Megaray is megaded because Zoroark made it obsolete.
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>>34891150
>Eggs are still bugged in online so you can infinitely fish them out of discard
That's intended behavior, not a bug.
http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/threads/exeggcute-propagation-question.119787/#post-2640222
Because of the way the rules of the game treat the hand as private knowledge, each time an Exeggcute is discarded, and in doing so enters a zone of public knowledge, it's treated as a different Exeggcute, so you can reuse Propagation as often as you like.
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>>34890039
Give me one (1) good reason why anyone shouldn't use evolutions clefairy in the magnezone/dawn nekrozma mirror match
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>>34890436
>>34890327
>>34890370

I want to try something along the same lines but with another meta deck, to run BuzzRoc and BuzzGarb at the same time. Not sure whether Klefkis or Balloons are the better choice here
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>>34891370
don't forget it hits Garchomp for weakness so can kill it with pretty much anything
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>>34891481
it's a tradeoff, klefki can be searched with ball cards and recovered with stretchers, but takes bench space, so you're effectively capped at 4 bench spaces.

I need to include more field blowers because with more testing I've found that Parallel City is a very nasty card to deal with for Zorogarb. Pretty much only Zorogarde runs it these days, but that matchup is already the hardest one for this deck that I've encountered. You slow them down but if they're hitting max potions you have a hard time ending the game before they eventually get a nasty garde up.

I'm hoping that magnezone runs all of the garde players out of the meta desu.

>>34891370
you should always at least consider running it. It's like the sudowoodo of deluge decks. I also like it in silvally decks.
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>>34891641
Do you think Buzz/Roc/Garb has any merit using the same engine? It can potentially survive parallel better by just leaving octillery
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best budget deck?
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>>34891701
passimian. look at Harrison Grandish's youtube/twitch he did an awesome stream of it the other day. Ended up removing the Lele entirely and doing better without it
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>>34891701
Depends, there aren't any really good budget options in standard I can think of, but this is a budget expanded list I made. Only expensive card is Dowsing Machine, which can be replaced with a second Lusamine if you don't have one.

Of course this deck runs better with Lele/Brigette, but the level ball engine is great.
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>>34891694
I think the more different pokes you're running the less consistent you will be. One of the issues of running heavy klefki is you're likely to get a klefki start, anyone who played vespiquen remembers those miserable klefki/trubbish starts where you don't find a combee t1, wasn't as big of a deal because you had FOGP, but Zoroark very much needs at least 2 Zorua down early in the game.
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Anyone have any insight on selling cards?
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>>34891893
We'd have to see the cards first.
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>>34891759
I've been trying to get dugtrio/ribombee to work in standard, is starmie better? I never thought to play it in expanded with battle compressors
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Bought a Breakpoint Elite trainer sitting in Walmart, Pulls and free code.
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>>34892595
Thanks anon
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>>34892625
Np.
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Lady – Trainer
Supporter

Search your deck for up to 4 basic Energy cards, reveal them, and put them into your hand. Then, shuffle your deck.

You can play only 1 Supporter card during your turn (before your attack).

Just Metal my shit up famalam
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Poor Clemont.
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>>34892825
Neat
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>>34892825
literally better clemont
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>>34891722
There's not a single Pokemon card maker that's decent.
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>>34892825
Four color + DCE meta sounds fun.
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>>34893951
Multi eeveelution deck would be amazing if it had consistency, but is Lady really better than Letter for that purpose
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why the fuck did they print baby lurantis as a promo, only? It's literally impossible to find the lurantis blisters, they sold out the first day they were put out in every local store, sold out instantly online.

I just want to try Leafeon memes and they do this shit to me, its literally 5 packs for a playset of this meme card.
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I have a fucking TCG addiction bros. I want to spend $23 on the Umbreon GX box.. but I've already went over my Pokemon budget for the month!
It's calling my name!
How do I stop!?
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>>34894010
try ebay pal, loads in UK at least, £3 each for promo
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>>34894040
Which is like 4-5x what other the other blisters were worth, idk why they include such a disproportionately valuable card as a blister exclusive.
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>>34894048
It wasn't worth much when it came out, it's only now really seeing potential use, it's hardly expensive really
It's cheaper to buy the single so no complaints for me really, it'd be nice if more promos were actually playable and not just trash for kids to collect
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>>34894029
I cant teach you discipline through a 4chin post anon you have to deal with it yourself.
But its better to give up the cardboard and just play online, its common sense
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>>34893966
Lady doesn't fuel a goddamn trashalance
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>>34894257
>trashalanche
>relevant

it might be coming back but right now nobody runs it, even buzz/garb players are switching to max elixir and garbotoxin only.
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>>34894265
Espeon Garb won seniors in Oceana. It's coming back because of buzzwole and sort of forming a triangle with zoroark
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Entei/Infernape - Anyone been playing this meme? Decent enough right now with the amount of Grass & Metal around.
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>>34894514
If the attack was RCC instead of RRC it would unironically be a really good deck. But unless we get a blacksmith pseudo-reprint it's a meme. You can try to run it with baby volc, but then you need Volc, and once you go there you'd be better off running a normal volc deck.If Expanded wasn't so fast/cancerous right now Infernape/Salazzle/Ninetales would be playable.
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>>34894093
They are starting to get it. The Kirlia promo that's from a single UP blister is amazing looking, the Vikavolt from the triple blister GR looks a lot nicer than the SM set one, and the the UP triple blister with the Alolan Vulpix promo is great too.
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Why does nobody use acerola currently? It looks like it has so much potential.
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I thought this cancer was only in expanded

Ordering 3 so me and my GF's Glaceon GX decks can rock them. I love supporter-tier items
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>>34894662
You aren't looking hard enough.
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>>34894662
They do, though. Golisopod loves it and so do mill decks.
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Man even just playing theme decks online is fun
Does it take long to be able to make a competent deck to compete outside theme? I guess it depends on how lucky you are with packs?
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>>34894775
You can build a decent standard deck with 2 Garchomp theme decks.
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>>34894811
Thats a good suggestion thanks
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>>34893365
That would be insane.
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>>34894010
I still find it in Walmart checkout lines, generally the "16 items or fewer" lines.
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>Toys 'r us going out of business near me
>"Oh boy, cheap cards"!
>Get to store
>Cards not apart of the sales
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Alolan Dugtrio is actually a really annoying deck if you don't manage to knock one opponent out first. How do you beat this without annability lock?
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Raichufag here, I asked a question a day ago. My only question is now I guess all I do is deck build now? I'm really not looking forward to those Tapu Lele prices lol. In any case, what's the best way to take care of the big card? Raichu is my favorite and I want to keep it safe. Also have 3 more packs too, wish me luck.
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>>34895737
Oh shit. Sorry for lighting, lamp bulbs are dead...
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>>34895760
Not gonna spam pics. But just got an Entei GX too.
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>>34895774
Fucking hell, next pack had a second one.
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ANOTHER MEWTWO
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>>34894527
Kiawe T1 obviously. Plenty of time to power up the bench then once the opponent has to keep worrying about switching out of +60/+120 burns.
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The camera is gonna duck this up but pretty good for 8 packs, right?
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>>34895822
p nice
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>>34895822
mewtwo is cool for collector's purposes but entei sucks sadly, raikou-gx will suck too. Suicune isn't even getting a GX.
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>>34896040
Mewtwo will be okay with the new Malamar from Forbidden Light
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Is Zoroark really the only good partner for Glaceon? I find that hard to believe that such a good ability will go to waste.
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>>34896051
Mewtwo will never be OK as long as it shares a game with Tapu Lele-GX. Even with Malamar, it has worse damage output than Raikou did in Raikou/Eels and it's a 2 prize card. Not to mention the fact that metal and darkness are two of the strongest archetypes right now which further hinder your damage potential.

>>34896069
Glaceon is its own worst enemy, since it has to be active for its ability to work, it doesn't put on nearly enough pressure from the active. If we had a card like Donphan from the old days but adjusted for power creep, it might work. But until then it will be second rate.
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>>34896069
If you get guzma'd your opponent will use abilities again, just quad glaceon is optimal.
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>>34896086
The only idea I can see is using Shining Legends Yveltal or Umbreon GX both of which have a 30 damage Strafe attack
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>>34896107
even then you hit the guzma issue that was also described. Zoroark doesn't really care about wasting its supporter for the turn if it means you can do 2-3 trades.
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>>34896069
>''As long as this is your Active Pokémon...''
>Good ability
Not really.
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Excuse the shitty pic, it's no where near done but I'm just trying to get close to what that one anon had in the last thread. If I don't want to shell out cash for x2 Lele are there any alternatives? Is Rough Seas good? There more I learn about this, it's more about burst damage, right? I'm any case how much more raichu should I buy? 2 or 3?

Thank you.

Thank you in a
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>>34896245
Stupid phone. I thought I deleted that last bit, I am sorry. I can't really get on the TCGO itself atm computer is dead.
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>>34895508
I mean I don't have too much trouble. If I see A-Diglett I try and set up any pokemon as fast as I can so I can knock it out.
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>>34896245
Expanded raichu isn't a terrible idea, needs Vs seekers though. Definitely add Pachirisu if you don't already have it, Eelectrik would work too to get extra energy back from the discard
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wyr 4 Cynthia or 4 Sycamore In a Solgaleo deck
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>>34896428
3 cynthia 1 sycamore, sometimes you just want to dump the cards in your hand and cynthia forces you to shuffle them.
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>>34892825
>This in Dusk Mane decks
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>>34896601
it comes the same expansion where we get lysandre prism star as a hard counter to discard strats so it won't be as busted as it sounds, but yeah its pretty good.

also it makes dugtrio viable in standard.
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Can Dusk Mane get Magnezone out fast enough to really compete? And if so, what are the best ways to do it? That was my biggest problem playing it on TCGO
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>>34896684
Yeah, you can be online by turn 2. You need to run a high lele/brigette count to guarantee you get a t1 brigette or the deck falls the fuck apart though.
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Fuck it. I got paid today. Do I buy x2 Tapu Lele?
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>>34896770
gonna have to make that plunge eventually.
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>>34896778
Grabbing x3 Raichu gx along with it. Since I'm going balls to the wall anything else worth ordering?
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>>34896810
4N, if you're doing expanded computer search ACE spec
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>>34896810
you looking at standard or expanded?

If standard, you want a playset of each of these cards available for deck building

N
Sycamore
Guzma
Cynthia
Acerola
Skyla (only need 1-2 really)
Field Blower
Rescue Stretcher
Choice Band
Puzzle of Time (depends on the deck but often used as a playset)

In expanded, add
Colress
Vs Seeker
Battle Compressor
Exeggute PLF
x1 Computer Search (Dowsing Machine is a common poor man's option)
x1 Ghetsis

Plus you'll probably want Zoroarks eventually because the card is busted.
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>>34896833
Still new, expanded allows stuff from BW era? Or is expanded XY era?
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>>34896847
forgot ultra ball and rare candy in standard deck staples

>>34896850
Expanded is BW base set on, they've never rotated anything from it (yet)
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>>34896847
Wish I wasn't stuck on mobile, would make typing easier. I have choice bands, sycamore, and a few other things. I'll buy the Ns since I don't think I have those. I have skylas just not sure how much. The x3 chus and x2 leles already put me at $100. I think I'll just get the Ns and x2 skyla for now. I'll have to take a look at my box of cards again to see what trainers I have.

Thanks.
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>>34896879
most of the standard cards are like 20-50 cents. Really the only expensive card I recommend is Computer Search since its basically mandatory in expanded.
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It physically hurt to order that stuff
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I dropped that Lele money and have now spent too much on this game.
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>>34897000
>>34896947
hah, not the same poster
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>when you play against someone who has no fucking clue and it takes 22 minutes to play out the game when they lost the second you put a hoopa down and they had no non EX attacker in their deck

fuck off dipshit, you can't win the game by chain lysandreing my tapu lele for a 3hko, stop wasting my time
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>>34897159
Does hoppa ignore ex attackers? Does that apply to GX too?
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>>34897282
Yes. Alolan Ninetales and Hoopa are the new Carbink and Suicune.

I'm playing a refurbished donphan deck and it's actually not bad. Well, it's pretty bad, but I can scum wins off of people who don't have a hex maniac.

I also use the Mew with the 'cant be attacked by evolution pokemon' ability
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tfw filthy gardevoir (male) player not willing to shell out $40 for a playset of Zoroark yet also not ready to take the Ultra Prism dick
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i keep getting half way through designing a weavile deck and end up trashing it, I just can't seem to find a way to give it any sort of power against decks that don't use abilities, and it has the inherent issue of losing damage with each KO like Honchkrow had.

Like it's a good card because abilities are strong right now, but I just can't make the deck around it work.
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>>34897365
Buzzwole
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>>34897365
You should post a decklist. My guess is you're focusing too much on Weavile, who is not very good by itself. The best use of it I've seen is mixed in a deck with Promo Tapu Koko and the Fairy Tapu Lele running 4 Rainbow and 4 Counter Energies (and also some DCE for Koko). The goal becomes less "punish your opponents for having abilities" and more "punish your opponents for having pokemon in play at all".
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>>34897303
Alolan Ninetails has a strictly better version of the ability but comes at the cost of being a Stage 1. I'm on hoopa personally but Ninetails is no joke.
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>>34898045

>strictly better

Prevent all effects of attacks, including damage, done to this Pokémon by your opponent's Pokémon-GX or Pokémon-EX.

vs

Prevent all effects of attacks, including damage, done to this Pokémon by your opponent's Pokémon-GX or Pokémon-EX.

which of these is scoundrel guard and which is luminous barrier? Hoopa and Ninetales are both better than Suicune and Carbink but they have the same ability.
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>>34898059
For some reason I thought Luminous blocked abilities from hitting it too. I'm on hoopa, like I said lol
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Xerneas (BKT 107) has the attack Rainbow Force:
>This attack does 30 more damage for each different type of Pokémon on your Bench.

Somehow it managed to do 250 damage to me with only a Choice Band and 5 different Pokémon at the bench. This should've done 10 (base) + 5*30 + 30 (Choice Band) = 190 damage to Dusk Mane Necrozma (UPR 90).

Is this a bug, or am I a retard?
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>>34898410
Did any of the benched pokemon have dual types? Volcanion-EX, Galvantula, or Bisharp from Steam Siege maybe?
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>>34898447
Ah, that might've been the case actually.
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>Knock Out 16 opposing Pokemon with your [type] Pokemon.
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Diantha – Trainer
Supporter

You can only play this card if 1 of your [Y] Pokemon was Knocked Out during your opponent’s last turn.

Choose 2 cards from your discard pile and put them into your hand.

You can play only 1 Supporter card during your turn (before your attack).
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>>34898879
Could be good for Garde if you lose one, grab a Rare Candy and the Garde you lost to evolve another Ralts. Too bad metal is going to be such a big thing.
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I really hate the versus point gain animation after every match. I just want to hop back into a game, but I have to wait the 5 seconds every time. I think I've lost a few hours of my life to that pointless shit.
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>run 4 N, 4 sycamore, 2 brigette, 4 ultra ball
>always start lele
>never draw any of the above

It's been a tough night.
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>>34898879
looks like rainbow road is back on the menu boys
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>>34898998
Metal is shit until Solgaleo and that’s October.
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>>34899545
uh lmao no. There's one new top tier metal deck in standard with DM/Magnezone, it's the spiritual successor to the old Kyurem B deluge decks.

It's not the worst matchup for Gardevoir, that's Dugtrio which becomes standard viable with SM6. Maybe even sooner, I haven't been able to work out a standard list that wasn't janky but Dugtrio is still a huge threat to non-zoroark Garde due to how easily it hits the 120/150 marks in midgame. Once Lady is in the game, it becomes a real deck in standard.

Solgaleo is going to be another big metal deck on delay until we get the turbo strike one, but we also have Silvalley getting more support, it's now at critical mass in terms of what the drives and Magearna let it do with weakness. Fighting, Psychic and Fire memory let it hit weakness on all of the major meta decks, and a few metal type pokes thrown in round it out.
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>>34899572
Magnezone is overrated as fuck shitter. It loses to everything, even Gard, if it doesn’t draw perfectly. Dugtrio is a meme and no Clemont is going to help it. Silvally is a better metal deck than either.
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>>34899594
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>>34897159
I bet you're one of those volcanion masturbators that need 20 minutes to setup their hoopa chain
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>>34899819
the opposite, i only play fast. I usually take like 5-7 minutes per game.
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>>34899572
Can't be tiered if it's not even seen a tournament yet. Maybe top tier in your opinion, but your opinion is worth less than worthless.

Volcanion is as good as ever, and Glaceon has fallen a bit more flat than expected, meaning Volcanion will continue to be as good a ever. Which means who the fuck would play metal and trade prizes at a loss to baby Volc which is definitely going to feature on the competitive scene.
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>>34898879
I know this is made for Gardy but I love Xerneas break and this is nice for it. Especially if you can recycle a max elixir and have a rod/recycler in hand

>>34899996
Volcanion is one of the only decks that actually eats an impossible matchup to Weavile unless it runs a heavy Ho-Oh / turt like and doesn't play volcs or leles down. Necrozma GX also eats it alive and it's starting to see Standard play in new Espeon Garb deck lists
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>knockout 12 pokemon with your fire pokemon
>turn 1 kiawe
>opponent scoops

EVERY TIME
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>>34898879
>diantha
>bonnie
What's with the XY trainers so late?
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>>34900490
SM6 has a Kalos theme, like how Ultra Prism had a Sinnoh theme.
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My leles are on the way. Anyway
Question. Is it better to build around a specific card or do type decks work? I kinda want to do a Lightning/Water.
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>>34900490
The sets seem to be ultra s/m and another gen mix
and so far they seem to follow the "year of legendary" releases for the game
being that sinnoh legendary right now for ultra prism and the kalos legend release will probably come around by the time of the next set which is XY themed.
if this trend does continue, unova is next, then hoenn, then johto.
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>>34900037
>Weavile
>in any way relevant
I'll give you Necrozma though. That can be a tough battle. But still
>starting to see play
It's not prevalent enough to worry about. Not yet, at least.

>>34896069
I've been splashing it into a Leafeon / Decidueye deck to make use of all the extra eevees that go to waste otherwise. It's been working out better than anything else I've tried with it. Lots of Brigette, lots of nest balls, 6[G] - 4DCE - 3 [G/W] Unit energy, Energy Loto to get the right ones.
>T1 Eevee to active, fill bench with Rowlet & 1 more eevee. Grand Bloom
>T2 promote Glaceon soft wall & snipe with Decidueye OR attack & heal with Leafeon.
Now your Grass deck has an attacker to take on fire decks too.
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>>34900522
Why not try cherrim for support
I fought a grass deck recently that was a cheeky mix of leafreon, cherrim, and lurantis for big hits and no weakness.
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>>34900490
I predict the next two sets will be:

- Unova themed set with Ghetsis Prism Star , Reshiram and Zekrom GX and Alder supporter

- Kanto /Johto themed set with Giovanni Prism Star , a Lance supporter and the original 3 Eeveelution GXs. May or may not be a Rocket themed set with something like the Dark mechanic returning
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>>34900511
It's usually best to build around ideas that either hit good numbers for 1HKOs or do amazing at getting 2HKOs while winning the prize trade. Lock-down and mill also work.

Synergy within a type is definitely something to look out for. Having two energy types isn't usually ideal unless you're rocking something like VikaBulu.
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>>34898879
That anon looking at Puzzle of Time should be happy
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>>34900682
Is there really a point of getting 2 puzzles with this when you could just get the 2 cards you'd normally get with the puzzles
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Im a noob but isnt this card insanely good?

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Rampardos_(Ultra_Prism_65)
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>>34900953
You have to evolve it from a fossil and you can't rare candy fossils. So no, not unless we get something to make fossils less janky. They're not as bad as they were in XY block but still not quite there.

An item or supporter or even GX move that let you play stage 2 fossil cards directly on to fossils would make them viable.
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>>34900845
>Two stages, one of which is a fucking fossil that can be sniped and gives out prizes
>Three colored energies
>150 HP
>Worst retreat cost
>In a meta where evolutions are relatively common

It would have been good in an older meta
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>>34901013
Makes sense, and it is weird that fossils have no perks like there is no point to them they might as well get rid of them like they did with babies if they are not going to get special qualities, like KO a fossil should not give a price for starters
Thanks for the input
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>>34901087
fossils have always been kind of bad. I'd like it if they brought back robosubs as fossils though.
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>>34900515
>>34900584
I don't think we're getting Kanto or Hoenn because of Primal Clash and Evolutions.
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>>34901102
If not we're still getting prism stars for all the villains and I would bet on a Rainbow Rocket themed set
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>>34901013
>you can't rare candy fossils

You can on PTCGO, I don't know if that's the intended behavior or not.
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>>34901165
Pretty sure that's the intended behavior. It's an Item Card before it gets played, and a Basic Pokemon after it gets played, so should get all the same rulings as each respectively.
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>>34898744
>tfw when you only have one deck
>daily missions are never about Metal
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>ditto theme deck match
>game says someone has an advantage

what
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>>34896272
Obviously, but what if you don't have time to knock out the first one?
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>>34901678
Advantage is based on rating, not decks.
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>>34901712
Oh as in how many of those thunder icon points you have?
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>>34901761
No, the rating system is hidden. That's just your victory points towards ladder reward.
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>>34901803
Well thats weird, any idea what factors into the rating
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>>34901826
being good
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>>34901826
Your Elo-rating goes up when you win and down when you lose. Unfortunately Pokémon Company is retarded and doesn't display your rating anywhere.
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>>34898879
In expanded, you can play 2 of these and Life Dew in a deck with only fairies and robo substitute to drag the game on forever.
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>>34900845
You can get 1 puzzle with it if you have it in hand and then get 3 cards.
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WHO THE FUCK IS DIANTHA
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>>34902883
Champion of the X Y series

aka irrelevant
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where does everyone keep seeing new cards/translations?
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>>34902903
the cuck

Pokebeach
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>>34901165
You can also evolve a stage 1 shieldon into a stage 1 bastiodon
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>>34902883
every NPC in XY is a literal fucking who except for Sycamore honestly. There isn't a single entry in the franchise with consistently less memorable characters.
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>>34903152
I thought it had better characters than gen 1-4
Or well it had characters at all period for the first time even if they werent good
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>>34903181
without using bulbapedia how many can you name though?

I think it's honestly hard to argue that gen 6 doesn't have the least memorable characters in the franchise, yeah gen 1 didn't have a lot of 'characterization' but the designs were good enough that you could pick them all out of a silhouetted lineup. Gens 5 and 7 both had great characters.
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>>34903269
Now you are arguing designs, we clearly have different standards, not that I expect characters from pokemon and they just get in the way even with good designs I just thought Sycamore and Lysandre relationship and the 1000 year man story were neat whereas I never thought that much of any character in gens 1-4
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>>34902883
Don't talk shit about second best girl.
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Barfs
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Any of these any good/worth anything?
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Alright bros. All of a sudden I'm unable to connect on my PC. I'm gonna try uninstalling an installing. Wish me luck.
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>>34903397
Alright bros. I'm fucked. Anyone have any ideas as to why I'm unable to connect?
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>>34903394
Buzz is great, used in a lot of the top decks (for now)
Darkrai is used somewhat in Expanded
Everything else is varying levels of "meh" except Gumshoos, who is worthless.
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>>34903394
guzz gets you two packs but buzzwole is worth like 8-12 on the market
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Maxie Prism Star

Your pokemon's attacks deal 20 additional damage for every special energy card attached to your F or R pokemon

Can only be played if your active pokemon is F or R type

Archie Prism Star

For every W or D energy attached to your pokemon, remove 2 damage counters from any of your pokemon.

Can only be played if your active pokemon is W or D type

Giovanni Prism Star
Your opponent reveals his or her hand. Discard as many Pokemon from their hand as you like. You may search your deck for a pokemon for each pokemon discarded in this way.

Can only be played if your active pokemon is F or P type

Ghetsis Prism Star
Your opponent reveals his or her hand. Send any supporter cards in their hand to the lost zone. If their hand has no supporter cards, send your entire hand to the lost zone.

We're obviously getting these 4 guys as prism stars at some point, any other ideas?
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>>34903438
>>34903440
Nice, thanks
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>>34903407
Hour .5 of no PTCGO.

Organs failing.
Hope lost.
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>>34903521
i just picked apart frogs with glaceon, you're missing out
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>tfw you find this playmat and you cant get it because you dont live in burgerland
>it has my favourite pokemon on it as well
life is suffering
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You've gotten her, right anon? I mean, you wouldn't leave one of the usable full arts sitting just outside your reach now would you? There's only three days left...
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>>34903665
>sylveon's wide open soul burning eyes
"It's alright child, come near."
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>>34903665
Import it from Sushiland then
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>>34903667
I got her last time she was on the ladder, just aiming for the 5x packs this time around
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>>34903667
what is the best theme deck for versus?
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>>34903740
Garchomp is the best available atm.
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>>34903740
either garchomp or empoleon. if you dislike garchomp mirrors, empoleon.
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>>34903443
I'd like if they made Giovanni akin to our current Archie/Maxie, but with no type restrictions. Giovanni deserves a better card after Giovanni's Scheme got outclassed by Kukui.

Yes, it would make T1 Vileplume a thing again in expanded, but it would be a lot harder to pull off.

On the other hand, it would allow some awesome comebacks, specially on stage 2 decks.
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Does anyone know what the Pin Collection box codes give?
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>>34903883
Usually just the promo that comes in the box.
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bought more textureless cards. why do I do this to my wallet?
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>>34903887
what a rip.
Guess I'll be giving away the code. I'm the Anon who lost his Mimikyu pin. I don't have the need for a second code in game.

HBJ-4R2G-PRM-PD_

Good luckm folks!
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>>34903903
Are these fake cards or what? I have the espeon... It's pretty
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Kadabra, Barboach, Carbink
Whismur, Klink, Klinklang, Blastoise
Yveltal, Bonsly, Zubat
Zangoose, Noivern, Metang.
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>>34904027
Nothing good, but I appreciate your cleverness nonetheless.
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>>34904109
hey, that raticate is a pgood card.
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>>34904114
>stage 1 with 60 hp
>evolves from a basic with 30 HP
>in a meta with Buzzwole
>good
the filename is "RATICATE MEMES" for a reason
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>>34904109
Sorry for the worthLess Pulls.
Maybe you'll get something better with this.

XHZ-NBQK-9_X-W__
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>>34904017
they are real, just an error where the texturing on the full art is 99% missing. you can see spots of the texture on it.

no clue how that happened or what their texturing process even is.
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>>34904434
Forgot to take a screen shot, but I didn't get anything decent except a Mt Coronet from that one either, think I used up all my luck during the UPR release. Thanks for the packs though.
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>>34903443
>D energy
???
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Xerneax-GX – Fairy – HP180
Basic Pokemon

[C] Run Through: 20 damage. This attack does 20 damage to 1 of your opponent’s Benched Pokemon. (Don’t apply Weakness and Resistance.)

[Y][Y][C] Aurora Horn: 120 damage.

[Y][Y][C] Sanctuary-GX: Move all damage counters from your Pokemon to your opponent’s Active Pokemon. (You can’t use more than 1 GX attack in a game.)

When your Pokemon-GX is Knocked Out, your opponent takes 2 Prize cards.

Weakness: Metal (x2)
Resistance: Darkness (-20)
Retreat: 2
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>>34904797
Dark
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>>34903907
Someone ows you a pull pic.
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>>34904798
Is it just me or is this pretty underwhelming? Might make a decent tech for Gardy but thats it. The attack costs are awkward and the GX is nice, but not great in every match-up (Nice against Buzz though)
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>>34904965
Yeah, I can see it as a x1 on fairy decks, but that's it. It's a very situational healer.
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>>34896684
>>34896705
I run 2 bridgette 2 skyla 4 ultra ball and 4 rare candy. no magneton. i usually get zone out by turn three. i was on a 17 win streak until i got really shit luck against a luc/ chomp
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Kartana GX botting?
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>Bonnie card cares about Zygarde

Are there any other anime reference cards?
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Cough
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What's a good non-ex/gx attacker? I'm worried my Raichu and Leles will get butt blasted by Hoopa and ninetales, was it?
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>>34905712
Oranguru's a solid choice for most decks, with colorless attack cost for an attack that can OHKO a Hoopa or Ninetales that have three energies on. In Lightning decks, Raikou BKT is a solid option, can hit decent numbers and is relatively tanky with its ability. Alternatively, Zekrom SHL, or Lightning Oricorio if you think you can survive a turn and not get Guzma'd to make use of Feather Dance.
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>>34904462
>no clue how that happened or what their texturing process even is.
I vaguely remember there being a mention of laser etching being used for ultra-rares around NXD's release, so it's probably that.
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Was Yveltal revealed before now?
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>>34906133
Nope. Any translation for it?
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>>34904965
I could probably see it being used in Xerneas BREAK decks just to have a GX attack for the game.
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>>34906197
I prefer Necrozma for my GX attack
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>>34906150
Heal equal to damage done

Ignore Weakness/Resistance

If Active has 4 damage counters, KO.
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Is there a site like mythicspoiler.com for Pokemon cards or do I need to trawl through seven thousand Pokebeach clickbait articles to be up to date on the newest set?
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>>34906233
Seems underpowered or is there something I'm not seeing?
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>>34906334
They're both pretty bad. The only good use I can see for Yveltal is in an expanded deck with Dusknoir and Koko/flygon for a free KO
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Haven't played in a very long while. Is seismitoad still a solid deck in expanded and if so can somebody pass me a list? Want to put my four FAs to good use. I have some good trading fodder in an extra FA Shaymin and a regular shaymin just need to know what i've got to pick up.
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>>34907455
>shaymin
>good trading fodder

uh, buddy, I don't know what to tell you.
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>>34907455
It's not as overwhelmingly good as it used to be, but still very solid. Two main variants I see played are Zoroark, and Seviper with Laserbank. I prefer playing the Seviper build personally.

****** Pokémon Trading Card Game Deck List ******

##Pokémon - 10

* 1 Giratina PR-XY XY184
* 4 Seviper BUS 50
* 2 Tapu Lele-GX GRI 137
* 3 Seismitoad-EX FFI 20

##Trainer Cards - 46

* 1 Computer Search BCR 137
* 1 Ghetsis PLF 101
* 1 Rescue Stretcher GRI 130
* 1 Hex Maniac AOR 75
* 1 Shadow Triad PLF 102
* 4 Ultra Ball DEX 102
* 1 Acerola BUS 112
* 1 Lysandre AOR 78
* 3 Professor Sycamore BKP 107
* 4 Hypnotoxic Laser PLS 123
* 1 Team Flare Grunt XY 129
* 1 Karen PR-XY XY177
* 1 Nest Ball SUM 123
* 4 Puzzle of Time BKP 109
* 1 Special Charge STS 105
* 1 Skyla BKT 148
* 2 Field Blower GRI 125
* 4 Virbank City Gym PLS 126
* 1 Guzma BUS 115
* 1 Colress PLS 118
* 3 N NVI 101
* 2 Float Stone BKT 137
* 2 Muscle Band XY 121
* 4 VS Seeker PHF 109

##Energy - 4

* 4 Double Colorless Energy NXD 92

Total Cards - 60

****** Deck List Generated by the Pokémon TCG Online www.pokemon.com/TCGO ******

Dunno how long "a very long while" is, but Shaymin has dropped in price substantially since last year's rotation. RA is worth about 4.5 packs, FA 7.5.
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>>34907498
oh that's unfortunate but i should be able to get the majority of the cards i'm missing anyway. Thanks for the help I just need a deck to play with to get a feel for what is good and what isn't.
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>It's another "you start off with Lele" episode
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Is there any reason why I can't bot for all the VS Rewards with a deck consisting of 1 Kartana GX and 59 Energies, taking a single prize and conceding to earn a single point per game?
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>>34900584
>lance supporter

here's my idea :

Lance - supporter

Draw 2 cards.

Until the end of your turn, each special energy attached to each of your [N] pokemon provides every type of energy but only provides 2 energy at a time.
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Decklists are due before 8:30 tomorrow. Don't be a fuckup.
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>>34906416
How do we put 10 more damage on buzzwole's jab to the bench?
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>>34904798
Alohan Ninetales gets that GX for double colorless lol
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Decklist for Collinsville. Looking for sugestions!! The letter is supposed to be a energy retriever and the flipped over cards are supposed to be the 4th copy of the trainer.
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>>34907988
Alolan Nineties only moves damage counters from itself though.
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>>34908005
I probably wouldnt bother with Dialga desu
Cut the letter for 4 Mt Coronet
Octillery or Oranguru over Zoroark
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>>34907913
btw this should read "special energy CARD" becuase no it isn't supposed to double your DCE's into Quad dragon energys
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My chus came in :)
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>>34908005
10/10 would smash with volcanion
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>>34907618
The developers monitor players that concede too often (players were abusing that system on Legacy). They will notice something fishy on your account, you will probably receive a warning then get banned.
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>>34907618
don't concede, that triggers investigation. Guzzlord and Swampert EX are the two most commonly botted decks.
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rate my ultra prism box

I want to know why tf I got so many duplicates, all of my prism stars were in packs with GX cards.
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>>34909684
Seems like you had fun. You're required to build the fucking deck.
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>>34909740
yeah, it was a pgood box, also got enough garchomps to build that deck

But in all of those packs I only got 2 Cynthia, and they were in the same pack. Not pictured was the Zoroark box I ordered because I got 3 Zoroarks in my SHL super premium collection and figured I'd just round off the set.

And I pulled a Zoroark from the box, so now I have 5. Also pulled a RR Garde from my burning shadows box, I wish I had such good luck online.
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is literally everyone on /vp/ attending collinsville and flying out today?

dead thread dead tcg
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>>34910359
Dunno...I'm still here. Only cause I'm new to this. Speaking of which I have 38 code things for packs and stuff, does these things expire? I've legit had them in a box for a very long time now. I used to collect cards and just impluse buy but I've gotten into the game now, are these still good? Oldest expansion there is, is XY I think.
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>>34910402
i found some old codes from BW that were still good a few weeks ago
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>>34910419
Okay cool, gonna input them now. So from what I read, it's best to use packs as trading power right? What exactly is the "value" of a pack? I'm trying to build a Raichu GX deck and would like 3 more of the buggers, I only have one. I also need a lot of trainers, would it be like 1 pack for X trainers?
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>>34910426
pack value depends on the set, Raichu is a pretty affordable card.

sadly most of the early XY sets are low value, look in the pastebin, that value chart is a bit outdated but pretty accurate. High value sets are a few of the good BW era sets, HGSS sets and recent god tier sets like Guardians.
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>>34910446
Shame about XY, I'm about halfway done redeeming but it looks like they're mostly Fates Collide. Gonna check the value on that one, I also have a Mega Mawile collector thing. Thank you for the help.
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>>34910460
FAC is recognized as one of the worst sets of late XY block

At least it's not Evolutions.
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>>34905242
One of Axew PLB’s attacks lets you search for an Iris Supperter card. Barring that and Ash-Greninja-EX, I think that’s it.
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>>34910465
I’ve been able to flip three FAC packs fot one Guardians Rising/Ultra Prism pack, but really should try to offer less.
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Well, this is all I have.

6 generations
8 Shining Legends
1 Sun & Moon
2 Guardians Rising
12 XY
2 BREAKpoint
3 BREAKthrough
1 Evolutions
12 Fates Collide
1 Steam Siege

gonna check their values and see what I can do.
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>>34910359
i mean i just have to wake up and drive over the river
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>>34905242
Depends on what you mean by reference; there's a whole Japanese exclusive deck kit with artwork by the anime illustrators.
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Would BREAKpoint Lapras be good for a Raichu-GX deck? or is the Water energy not worth adding?
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Good luck to /vp/ tomorrow. Reminder: check in for those that need it tomorrow is 7:45-8:30. If you need last minute cards vendors are probably open if you can get there, get your cards, and update your decklist online to reflect them, and then check in.

May the guzzlords be with you.
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>>34911191
rofl not at all, that card is jank garbage, even in a water deck, searching attacks fucking suck. N is in every deck, you can't reliably plan across turns with the hand you have at turn end whatsoever.

Raichu runs just Pachirisu/Raichu/Lele, it's all you need. Run 3 Lele 3 Brigette for a guaranteed t1 nuzzle love party (be sure to run nuzzle pikachu from GEN).

Some variants used to run Raikou or Electrode but those cards are strictly worse than a well used Pachi. I'd run thick lines of Wishful Baton, a t1 baton on your initial pachirisu would be ideal to preserve your energy.
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>>34911231
I see, I'll get some Pachi then. I kinda want to be a karen fag and throw some random shit in there, I don't think it'd hurt. after all my new as hell and don't think MM matters.

also as far as pack value goes, if I understand it properly packs with x1 value can trade for packs with x0.50 value, correct? how exactly does this transfer over to cards? Like if I have 7 Shining Legends what're my chances of getting at least two lele with those? I have more packs than just those.

Thanks.
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Little bro is getting into TCG so I asked him which pokemon is his favorite and he said Exeggutor. Fukin kek kid is doomed but his taste is based.
I went out today and bought 3 AExeggutor gx, 1 normal AExeggutor and 2 Venusaur families and some grass filler namely Shaymin and Virizion from shining legends. Is there a way to make AExeggutor deck less of a dick?
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>>34911258
>chance of getting 2 lele for 7 SHL
absolutely zero, have to do some serious tradejewing to build up enough value to trade for Leles. A 1 value pack is worth 2 half value packs. The main tradejew site has Lele listed at 23.5 packs value right now, which means you are basically guaranteed to be able to get it for that price, though you can get it a little lower.

Even if you put up actuarially fair trades from a value perspective, people are generally more hesitant to accept lots with more different items in them because it requires them to know/look up the values of each card in the lot to get a sense of whether the trade is fair, and many of the people trading Leles are also going to be flipping the cards/packs they get.

One of the tricks for building value up is flipping packages of in-demand commons/uncommons, you can use uncommon chests or low value packs to trade for playsets of them then relist them as smaller lots for the same packs, or for higher value packs. After a new set drops there are usually some major whale buyfags who drop shitloads of money and open tons of packs, and are looking to get rid of their bulk quickly.

The packs thing isn't a hard and fast rule, some people don't discount old sets quite as heavily. Right now Guardians Rising, Shining Legends and Ultra Prism are trading at parity. Guardians and Legends both have god tier chase cards and Legends is a buyfag only pack which artificially inflates its value (Generations, despite being a mediocre set trades at near parity due to not being available in the store). Whatever the newest set is usually has inflated value until everyone's got their playsets. ULP has some pretty good cards so it might remain at or close to parity.
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>>34911361
Not really, if you can't get t2-3 venusaur its basically over. So I guess build the list to ensure you hit that, high Lele/Brigette count.

So many fucking decks are totally dependent on that play, I wonder what the meta's going to be like when it rotates, along with N/Sycamore who have been standard legal continuously since the early-mid BW era.
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>>34911367
Ah, I see. I understand a bit more now. You see, the last time I ever had to deal with any "in-game economy" was with TF2 years ago. So yea, this stuff is slowly making more sense.
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>>34907570
Every time, and then because of it I whiff the T1 Brigette.
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>>34909684
It's this all from one box? I thought they were only averaging 3 prisms.
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>>34911543
Yeah, one box. I'm pretty sure it was either a fucked up run or just stupidly lucky.

Every one of my prism star packs had a GX in it.
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>>34911558
That's crazy lucky, from what I've seen of people opening ULP you definitely got way over the average. Duplicate GX in one box (excepting FA/rainbow variants) also seems to be uncommon.
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Is it just me or is this purugly actually a cool tech in a control oriented drampa or espeon/garb deck?

Run mars, tormenting spray and/or delinquent, make them discard hard and fuel trashalanche
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>>34911652
if toss aside was DCE costwise it would be a good card, otherwise it's memecore.
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>>34911665
played a few games, won them and never once attacked with the cat

Mars on the other hand, is putting in work. But I have to wonder if I'd be better off just using Tormenting Spray and being able to play another supporter the turn
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>>34911677
or Red Card
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quick before the regional, predict top 8

buzzwole/garb x2
some stupid zoroark deck x2
golisopod/garb
silvally/metal
some volcanion shit
some meme list nobody expected to be good
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>>34911393
Lele for Pokemon Fan Club instead
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Well I fell for the Glaceon GX meme, pulled one today and decided to buy another. They can be tradebait if I dislike them :^)
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>>34911736
I think a Dugtrio will make day 2 and so will a frogs and the frog will eliminate it
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malmo stream
twitch / playthechampionships_vgc
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>>34912113
tcg sorry not vgc lol
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Is there a website where I can see what were considered the most useful/popular/powerful cards throughout the years?
I want to learn more about the TCG and its history.
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>>34912119
for really old formats

https://jklaczpokemon.wordpress.com
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>>34909621
>>34909447
Good to know. How about seppuku with his shuffle attack? Or is it better to play it through and get Knocked Out?
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Wanna try something new but I'm at a loss of what to go with. I have a Zoroark GX deck ready but I'm not sure what to put with it.
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>>34912161
Zoroark GX is so strong and versitile that i can partner with a lot of pokemon pretty well

I ran him with salazzle for funny results
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>R1 of Malmo Reg stream
>Dusk Mane vs Buzz/Lycanrox
>Dusk Man bricks set up both games for a fast 0-2

Figures
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>>34912299
>People keep play Dusk Mane/Magnezone
>When Metagross is a more consistent engine for it
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>>34908572
what is your list looking like RaichuAnon?
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>>34912299
stream link?
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Getting ready for regionals, wish me luck /vp/
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>>34912543
good luck
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If you ever host a stream let it buffer at 480p
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>>34912155
as long as you lose rather than conceding it wont be investigated typically. But you should do guzzlord if you can write a bot for it because it will actually win once in awhile.
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>>34890327
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>>34912754
the absolute madswede. The balloon variant is something I enjoy more and more because of the versatility balloons give you. I think ideally you want some mix of balloons and klefki.

Also trashalanche garb makes the deck too inconsistent, I've abandoned it for mewtwo evo.
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SPEEDY TORD
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>>34912754

>Commentators missing that Jimmy hit the field blower for the guaranteed win unless he gets N'd

Jesus christ this commentary is painful
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>>34912631
Seriously, i cant watch it in my third world internet
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This "music" is painful
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can someone post the actual link? I can't find it for shit
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>>34913466
first result when I typed pokemon tcg in the search bar
/playthechampionships_tcg
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>>34911361
It works a lot better in standard. Turn two or three Venusaur is super doable with 3 copies each of Skyla, Heavy Ball, and Rare Candy. On top of triple Lele and Quad Ultra Ball, and 2-3 Brigette.
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literally all of these popular deck blurbs have at least one typo, did they have a fucking dyslexic type these up?
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>>34911652
I don't really get what Own The Place does.

The "If you do" part is ambiguous. It's "If you discard your opponent's stadium card" or "if you have a stadium card in play"?
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>>34913526
if you use the attack and it succeeds in discarding an opposing stadium (you can't discard your own stadium with it, and you can't choose to not discard an opposing stadium when attacking if one is present), purugly gets an effect on it that makes it immune to any effects of attacks next turn.

It's not the attack you're playing the card for but can be situationally useful to stall for a turn.
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>>34913526
The former.
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Is ultra prism legal in that tourney
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>>34913720
yes, someone literally just played metagross/dusk mane
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>tfw buzzwole
Lost game 1, here's hoping I can get the next two
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>>34913725
did it win?
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>>34913729
Come on anon you can do it
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ST. LOUIS

/criticalhittcg
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>>34913734
didn't watch the end, it was against buzgarb and down 1 game with like 5 minutes left on the clock. I assume he lost again but might have drawn.
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>>34913824
pram is running it
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>>34913824
It's threatening, it is used like Trashalanche Garb but for abilities.
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>>34913824
>>34913856
When the inevitable fairy/fighting/dark unit energy comes out in Ultra Prism I think Buzzwole/Weavile could be viable
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>>34913824
It has tons of potential but until garbotoxin rotates garb is the most cost effective ability hate. But any deck that runs darkness energy should consider running this card because of the aforementioned trashalanche effect, you can completely turn a game around with a stage 1 attacker that attacks for 1 energy, if you have a sneasel benched at any point in the game that play is an option.

>>34913868
It's already viable, just worse than buzz/garb imo, it would make it better though, you're right.
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how to find boys irl to play aganist
i just made a deck for the first time in years ang want to fucking play
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Is Lady the shittiest full art supporter ever made?

>Literally the same pose just redrawn a bit
>mouth too far off to one side
>eyes too far apart
>literal child anatomy
>eyes even bigger for no reason

like it's obvious that shit just gets approved without anyone really looking at it but come on now
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>>34913896
Your local card store
Try not no look too much like a pedo
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>>34913906
hey, her hand is in a different position, the artist took at *least* 15 minutes to partially redraw that and slap a colorful background on it.
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>>34914204

come here to enjoy the endless buzzwole mirrors we will see at st. louis together




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