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turner giving us the goods which is your fave
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>>35568628
Is that a harpoon shark?
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I like the shark thing beneath venonat, and the deer/dragon thing above Diglett. Got any other screen shots?
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>>35568628
too much soul
needs more souless pokemon, like haxorus or meowstic
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>>35568628
56 and 68 are cool
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That hairy bugeyed dragon must've been reworked into Drampa.
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>>35568628
Please let this be a tease for these guys being in lets go....
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Shark was probably reworked into Sharpedo or/and Garchomp
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the shark is great
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>>35568628
That deer looking thing at the top wouldn't be out of place as a later gen legendary.
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>>35568628
>Stantler made it in over 56
God, GF always were retarded weren't they?
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No harpoon shark...keeps voltorb and electrode.

Choices
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>>35568628
What is クロッキー?
Like a bug eyed plant dinosaur?
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>>35568628
>tfw we might finally get the real evolution of Dragonair in Let's Go
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How did Voltorb make the cut? Literally just a ball with eyes.
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>>35568628
>Hey should we add a shark? We only have 2 fish-like pokemon
>NAH just add like 5 more Rhydon knock-offs.
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>>35568697
That's not an evolution, that's the beta design of Dragonair itself.
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>>35568683
and that's a bad thing
glad that stinky piece of shit didn't stain gen 1
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>>35568628
I NEED THAT HARPOON SHARK AS A WATER STARTER
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>>35568696
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>>35568668
or they are completely unrelated because every pokemon doesn't have to be related to some other one in some way
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>>35568628
Based harpoon shark.
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>>35568696
It translates to "Kurokki"
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>>35568729
i bet you don't think Bouffalant was originally a Tauros evo
perhaps twitter is more your liking, newfag
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>>35568697
>posts Dragonair back when it was a proper Dragonite preevo
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>>35568742
crocodile
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>>35568641
>not liking Haxorus
Yo fuck of
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>>35568701
they wanted their mimic
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>>35568751
And probably ki from tree
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>>35568755
sorry I have good taste I guess
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Damn. Now I wonder if this really is gen 8, if he's teasing new additions from rejected designs.
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Please mean we can get Gorillaimo and buhi.
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>>35568628
I wish Gorochu had been in there. I want to see what it would've looked like.
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>>35568697
>>35568705
Also Dragonite USED to be a bit more serpentine before they gave it T-rex-esque proportions
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>>35568628
>Demon Reindeer
>Lion bug-eyed alligator
>Swordfish

Man, that shit is cool, instead we get a fucking anchor and keys
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>>35568806
>supposed to be a golden dragon
>we get slightly orange Barney instead
Fucking hell what happened
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Bottom left: Kakutasu (Cactus)
Shark: Shaggu
56 is literally "Deer"
Blastoise is Karabajio instead of Kamex
Above Rhydon is Gya(scribble)oon
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>>35568696
It almost reminds me of Venusaur with the bloodshot eyes anf the plant fronds
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>there are at least 3 more new ones partially visible but blocked off

WHYYYYYYY
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I don't see where the shark's eyes are? And what's the thing jutting out from its head on the left, below the harpoon?
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>>35568835
How to create hype 101
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>>35568844
That would be part of its head, which has the eye on it.
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>>35568806
That legit looks dope as fuck. Early spritework was amazing, if only for a willingness to go off model, and the low resolution leaving more to the imagination.

Now we get the same fat lame 3D models in every game. Because this is Gamefreak and they hate extra work.
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>>35568858
Game Freak doesn't make the models
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>>35568822
>we get a fucking anchor
Dhelmise is haunted algae though.
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>>35568628
>Interesting
You better fucking include them in the new games. This is a good opportunity. I wanna see Gorochu too.
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>>35568628
Hopefully we get that guy under diglet. It would be my new nigga
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The best way to make the game great for both genwunners and current pokemon fans is to add a good number of these "cancelled" Pokemon and more "gen-1" style Pokemon. It will appeal to current pokemon fans due to new Pokemon and it will be be fine for genwunners because the pokemon will be in a "gen-1" style.
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>>35568899
That somehow happens to always find an identical anchor to... anchor to? Dumb as shit!
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Gorochu better be in that book.
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>>35568940
They already fucking do. But it doesn't matter because nobody would ever know anyway.
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>>35568628
>James Turner

I wish this cancerous American who keeps shitting terrible designs would just disappear already
I'm fairly certain his arrival is at least partially responsible for Pokemon going to shit
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>>35568988
He's not an American, he's British.
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>>35568628
>56. Diar (sounds like deer)
>62. Krokki
>68. Jyagg
>35. Is Blastoise, but his name is Caravaggio (like the artist)
>Spearow is Omuomu
>There is Giaon (right to voltorb)
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>>35568940
They already do use scrapped Pokemon designs in later games
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>>35568822

these days all we get are dragons and crazy bugs and isopods, I miss when we got magnets and mines and balls and other such cherry picked retorts.
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>>35569001
Same shit
Brits are basically Americans at that point
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>>35569005
>Caravaggio
>1600's Italian artist
>TMNT
oh shit
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>>35568628
I like the moose looking thing by Tangala
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>>35568858
What makes you think it was some sort of artistic decision instead of an early showcase of their future incompetence?
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>>35569005
We need fanarts from these RIGHT NOW!!!
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>>35568628
Satoshi Tajiri need make another Pokemon game.
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Shaggu looks threatening as fuck
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>>35569008
When are we getting that bug net Pokemon?
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The deer thing looks like the Gen V musketeers
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What some people are forgetting is that these designs would've been further refined by Sugimori in their watercolor art -- just because you like/don't like something here in their sprites, the finalized design might look pretty different.

Regardless, I want to see more.
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>>35568956
And it hatches from an egg with said anchor as well.
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>>35568628
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_index_number_(Generation_I)
While none of the numbers match (Rhydon is 18 here but is the first in the games, Voltorb is off just by one, Blastoise is 28 instead of 35), the numbers by the deer, the shark and the bug eyed croc thing are all MissingNos (the theory goes that 39 monsters at some point).
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>>35569114
Pls no bugnet
God I hate item pokemon so much
They annihilate the world building and credibility of the universe
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>>35569140
But not too much at least for Gen 1, all others that are real look pretty much like how they appear in the original Red and Green. It's good they excluded the shark you can't see anything.
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>>35569005
We need them all in PoLeGoPi/PoLeGoEv
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>>35568899
>>35568956
>Gen 2 has a full alphabet of unown
>Gen 3 has hundreds of Sound a patterns
>Gen 7 can't even have ghost algae attatch to sunken propellers or naval mines
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>>35568956
The series has always had weird cases where a Pokemon is treated like a single character, but there's a whole species of them. Cubone's one of the most infamous examples.
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>>35569114
But anon, there's one already.
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>>35569142
It's not worse than a set of keys, but it's not better either. I can buy magnemite, voltorb, shit like that, but a fucking anchor? I'll only allow the aegislash family and my headcanon insists that all the swords and shields are unique.
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>>35569148
We have animals that look like eyes, rocks and chainsaws IRL, but object monsters somehow ruin the credibility of monsters?
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>>35568755
Shut up Nugenner.
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>>35569159
In the first three gens, a good chunk of the Pokemon actually had their sprites made first, then the official artwork had to kind of make sense of the design. Gen 4 was the first gen where every Pokemon was designed on paper.
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>>35569148
>Creatures with magic powers
>"Credibility"
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>>35569148
pokemon are not and wete never meant to be only animals
Look up some Japanese folklore
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>>35568956
Yeah, that was a bit weird. Definitely could have had forms
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>>35568669
it's just my mom's shark
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>>35569148
You to realize objects coming to life os a common monster/spirit in Japanese folklore and that GameFreak, being Japanese, would draw some inspiration from their own culture, right?
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>>35569232
agreed
but it's maybe better in color
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>>35569148

> annihilate the world building and credibility of the universe

Oh, and the magical cartoon animals with superpowers and the ten year olds who command them to face off against terrorist organizations while the police do nothing, somehow don't do that?
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>>35569148
So the worldbuilding was shot from the start thanks to magnemite and voltorb?
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>>35568956
Wait for a new regional form and you'll like it !

>>35568858
GF work with artwork like these https://imgur.com/a/CiAMP#IhwK0fS
And then some affiliate workers make 3D models of these
If they stayed 2D like some games choose to now it could have had a lot more details in each game and pokemon
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>>35569186
And Mimikyu, too. You want me to believe that a whole species of pokémon hates Pikachu and wants to dress up as them? This is why we need more one-only pokémon in this franchise, without them having to be legendary. Or they could stop being lazy and give us more variants of species that already exist.
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>>35569159
What? Gastly looks vastly different (more gaseous versus the globular gas of the final design), Rhydon's proportions...fuck, Moltres' final design looks almost unrecognizable compared to the sprite. If anything, Gen 1 is the biggest offender, since as >>35569220 pointed out, the sprites were done first and then Sugimori made the artwork and had to streamline the designs.
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>>35568628
I can read some names that also didn't make the cut, either the name or the entire design.

>List on the left
Kakutasu
Maikoo Nasu (Osu? Possibly the old name for Nidoran?)
Buu (Puu?)
Barunda (A)

>Sprites
Diaa (Deer. Yes, literally.)
Kurokki (Crocky?)
Jaagu (Jarg? the shark)
Kakutasu (the thing left to Jarg)
Karapajio (Blastoise)
Gya<blur>oon (the shit is this? next to Voltorb)
Omuomu (Spearow)
Gagaasu (Rhydon)
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>>35569191
Galvantula is a bug that nets, not a net that bugs.
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>>35569192
>I can buy magnemite, voltorb, shit like that
Why? Because you grew up with them?
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>>35568772
>>35569210
Not him but you fags should kill yourselves if you think Haxorus is a bad design. It's one of the few good Gen V designs actually.
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>>35568956
Hitmonchan and Jynx all wear the same mass produced clothing
Exeggcute all have the same broken and cracked eggs
Kadabra and Alakazam all find spoons
Cubone always wears its mother's skull
Porygon and Mr. Mime

Literally who cares?
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The page on the left of the image contains the results of Game Freak’s internal Pokémon popularity contest. The top 3 are:

1. Exeggutor
2. Chansey
3. Clefairy

And Diglett came in last (#31)
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>>35568806
The OG anime took a lot of artistic freedom and redesigned everything for ever.
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>>35569333
Not actually the case, the anime just copied the official Sugimori artwork

The sprites were just fucked up and inaccurate to how the Pokemon were actually supposed to look.
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>>35569283
To be fair, not all Mimikyu hate Pikachu

Most just want love and mimic Pikachu because Pikachu is stupid levels of loved

Very least could have done with a Spinda esque system, where the face is scrawled on slightly differently from Mimikyu to Mimikyu, however
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>>35568697
you know lets go is fake right?
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>>35569324
Any and all desings from that Gen are trash. Nugenner. Just shut up already. You have trash taste.
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>>35569192
>headcanon
That's where your problem is. Just accept facts that are "true" in the fantasy world we all love.
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>>35569283
Every Incineroar has the exact same personality.
Probably the other two as well, but I don't care to look.
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>>35569283
Only Jessie's Mimikyu in the anime hates Pikachu, the rest are just envious of its popularity and wear Pikachu costumes because their true form is so terrifying that anyone who looks at it dies.
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>>35569005
>>35569029

I'm gonna call Caravaggio my next Blastoise
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>>35568628
That narwhal/shark looks good in theory.
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>>35569370
Oh come on. You shit on gen 5 the gen of the ice cream cone but you love your stupid magnet with screws ? You are the special snowflakes that should shut up on a pokemon board. Either you accept it or you quit it.
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i love the bug eyed dragon
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Masuda has said himself that Pokemon designs very rarely actually get scrapped

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2017/08/10/heres-how-game-freak-designs-pokemon-creatures.aspx

>There are few, if any, hard and fast rules about what a Pokémon can and cannot be. “One thing we always really pay attention to is treating them like living creatures so you have to try and imagine where it would live in the environment and why it looks the way it does, what would it eat? For example,” Masuda says. “When designing Pokémon, and not just from a graphic design perspective, there must be a reason for why it looks the way it does and you have to think about why it might live in the Pokémon world.”

>Pokémon designs rarely get cancelled, so to speak. If a new Pokémon weren’t going to fit in the game or world, Game Freak doesn’t let them get far past the conceptual stages. “Once you’re in the middle of creating it and someone were to say, ‘No!, that’s not a Pokémon,’ and the design process gets killed? That doesn’t really happen that much,” Masuda says. “Usually, instead, maybe the person who is directing the game might say it won’t work in its current form, but maybe if you did this and adding ideas onto it might make it work better.” For this reason, ideas for new Pokémon rarely get thrown away.

The ones that get scrapped never make it past the concept stage; once they've started actually being designed, the design gets reworked if they feel that the current design doesn't work
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>>35569181
We already decided the correct abbreviation is LegoPie.
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>>35569298
underrated post
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>>35569435
I always loved this little behind the scenes look at the pokemon design, it's an interesting process
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>>35569435
>One thing we always really pay attention to is treating them like living creatures so you have to try and imagine where it would live in the environment and why it looks the way it does, what would it eat?
When exactly did they throw that philosophy away?
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>>35569326
>Literally who cares?

I do
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>>35569444
Wrong. The official twitter leakers says PoLeGoPi/PoLeGoEv
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>>35568628
>we were gonna get a proper shark mon in gen 1
>20 years later still no proper shark
kek
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>>35569029
Shit, son
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>>35569283
This can be explained with Darwin's theory of evolution. One Mimikyu dressed up as Pikachu, people found it cute, so more and more did it. After a while the ugly Mimikyu die out and the cute Pikachu ones survive and the costume becomes part of the Pokemon.
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>>35569307
Because they're no specific item, just of bunch of abstract mecanic shits
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>>35569521
Magnemite is MULTIPLE specific items. 2 horseshoe magnets and 3 screws.
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>>35569467
Never.
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>>35568628
>56 Deer
>62 Crocky
>68 Jharck

Don't you fucking dare complain to me about how Pokémon design has lost its way again.
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>>35568628
Those others were cut for a reason y'know. The 151 that remained were perfect. I mean. A shark? Just literally a shark? Pitiful. But you Nugenners like your trash desings I guess (Trubbish LOL) So yeah. But none of this dumb shit will taint the new games.

Heh

You Nugenners are going to learn what REAL Pokemon are.
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there are sparks around 55.

what are the odds of it being gorochu?
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>>35568696
Bug/Dragon here we come
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>>35568628
Why is Spearow crossed out like that?
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>>35569581
Yes, apparently game balance if interviews are to be believed, not the visual design.
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>>35569581
Yeah, just a shark is so much worse than just a seal or just a snake.
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>>35569581
imo, Pokemon need to go back to being just "my mom's X"
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>>35568858
early spritework was fucking amazing. I'd kill for a sprite based line of games to accompany the main.
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>>35569665
What about all the ones that are that now, like Toucannon?
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>>35569665
That's literally what they are now

Gen 1 had a lot of abstract and ambiguous designs, while with new Pokemon, you can very easily tell what they're supposed to be.
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>>35568628
>the results of the popularity polls are
1 Exeggutor
2 Chansey
3 Clefairy
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>>35569517
I like it
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>>35569435
Well, that's true nowadays. We know they were a lot less organized during the first couple of generations and quite a few got thrown out along the way.
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I really dig the shark, wish there was more concept art of it because I have kind of a hard time figuring out exactly what's going on with it.
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>>35569704
>Gen 1 had a lot of abstract and ambiguous designs
This is the most retarded bait I've seen all day.
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>>35569765
I do vaguely remember an interview where he mentioned Exeggutor was the most popular among the staff when they were making gen 1.
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>>35569435
I wonder why this got out only to be gone or reworked later. The top too.
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>>35569791
Reminds me of an Etrian Odyssey enemy.
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>>35569808
>Magmar
>literally my mom's ___
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>>35569791
Now we need a romhack which adds in Shaggy and the other two.
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>>35569521
>They’re no specific item
>Voltorb is literally a Pokeball with eyes
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>>35569835
Karura
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>>35569841
I wish the art was clearer because I'd like to better recreate some of these.
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>>35569835
Booby.
It's japanese name is Boober
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>>35569866
Where is Voltorb's button?
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>>35569908
its taint
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>>35569835
>A lot
>Can only name 1

Nigga the same region, has the charmandar, squirtle pidgey, spearow, caterpie, weedle, FUCKING seel, magikarp, eevee, growlithe, tauros, meowth, ekans, rattata, mankey, psyduck, goldeen, vulpix. and most of those include their shitty lines and more.
Even the lore behind the fucking "lol icecream" has more depth than most of Gen I's garbage designs.
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interesting. some of these line up with the index numbers in gen 1
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>>35568641
>le meaningless buzzword
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>>35569921
>Can only name 1
More like "only bothered to name one"
>the rest of your retarded post
At least half of those are flat out wrong.
What the fuck do you think Eevee is?
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>>35568988
His designs are some of the best. Fuck off
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>>35570022
>More like "only bothered to name one"
>I-I-I swear there's a lot, I just don't want to name them, G-G-Gen 1 has super unique designs guys.

>At least half of those are flat out wrong.
Name them.
>inb4 why should I? y-you're just retarded.
>Eevee
Just a some mammal with Dog, cat and fox traits, it explains why some of it's evolutions are more similiar to some mammals than others.
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>>35568628
I like the moose and the shark
The dino is meh
wtf is the 4th one supposed to be? I looks like a ballsack
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>>35569893
ummmmm bobbies
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>>35570153
I think it's a cactus with four faces, bird legs, and a rat's tail. It might have been reworked into Dodou.
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>>35570153
The dino is a crocodile.

I also thought it was a ballsack but it seems to be a cactus ("kakutasu", literally).
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>>35568628
That deer is probably what Virizion was based on
Arrowhead Shark is neat

I can see that bigeyed lizard being Totodile
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>>35570138
>I-I-I swear there's a lot, I just don't want to name them, G-G-Gen 1 has super unique designs guys.
Why do retards do this to try to prove their points?
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>>35570193
Probably because you couldn't come up with any substantial counter argument.
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>>35570193
Because it's not used to "prove the point", in this case it's already clear Gen 1 fanboy can't back up his claims, the point was to mock him for it.
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>>35570179
>Virizion
Would they really save a design for that much time? Stantler is a safer bet. Yes, I know you didn't even remember it.
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>>35570210
Because there was totally an argument to counter in the first place.
This place will never stop being a complete shithole.
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>>35570276
I mean maybe, >>35569823 honestly looks like they recycled it into Tirtouga, wouldn't surprise me if they reused some of these designs for Gen V with it being a reboot.
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>>35570287
>Make retarded claim
>Get asked to back up the claim
>Can't do it and only deflects all comments when asked to defend it
>Get called out for it

>"This place will never stop being a complete shithole."
Yes and you are part of the problem.
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>>35570287
>Gen 1 had a lot of abstract and ambiguous designs
>Nigga the same region, has the charmandar, squirtle pidgey, spearow, caterpie, weedle...etc
He gave you a lot of examples and you just went "ur wrong!!" with no explanation.
And then you bring up Eevee? Is that what you consider "ambiguous"? A fucking dog?
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>>35569808
>a fact is bait

lmao
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>>35570382
not sure if bait but I unironically agree with this
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>>35570373
>A fucking dog?
Have you ever even seen a dog?
That example alone marks the whole post as bullshit.
What do you want me to do, make a wall of text that you'll just ignore anyway?
I've got better fucking things to do, I assure you.
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>>35570382
>If I add the word 'cartoon' to newer designs, it will make them look like shit.
The "cartoony" aspect they have is because of the artstyle and not because of the design itself retard. You can just draw them differently and make the same claims only reversed.
I'll give you kudos for not cherrypicking designs though, but as a consequence the fact that all the newer designs are better than Gen 1 ends up being highlighted. Of course there's exceptions like Venusar, Fearow, Nidoran, Mankey line and Arcanine, but the rest are pure shit.
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>>35570373
Eevee doesn't look like a dog.
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>>35569581
How about you shut the fuck up? It's ONLY /vp/ I see you fucking self dick sucking dickweeds. What, did your mom tell you she hated you? Yes I am mad for other reasons, but I'm deciding to take it out on you. Nugenner? Really? Are people not allowed to like designs you don't? Trubbish is better than Voltorb, the games have generally improved over time, and this whole fucking board is cancer

Fuck /vp/ and the underaged trolls all over it, even REDDIT at least can keep itself from being as pants on retarded as this board. Fucking REDDIT. How are you worse than god damned REDDIT!?
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>>35570442
>I've got better fucking things to do, I assure you.
It doesn't show.
>wall of text
Maybe a few examples of those super abstract and ambiguous designs you like and defend so much, you know, just like you were asked to?
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>>35569908
I was gunna be a smart ass and say
>inside
But then that made way too much sense so it became my new headcanon. Just gunna share that thought
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>>35570477
>Maybe a few examples of those super abstract and ambiguous designs
Bulbasaur line
Both Nido lines
Clefairy line
Jigglypuff
Mankey line
Abra line
Machop line
Golem
Slowpoke line
Hitmonlee
Koffing line
Rhydon
Chansey
Kangaskhan
Scyther
Magmar
Snorlax

not even him btw. It absolutely is true that gen 1 has more "ambiguous" designs than later gens. There are still arguments about what Bulbasaur is supposed to be yet anyone can look at Rowlet and tell immediately it's just an anime barn owl.
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>>35569889
It's a moose with spikes? A demonic Moose?
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>>35568628
>Game Freak has conducted an in-house popularity poll.
>1. Nassy (Exeggcutor)
>2. Lucky (Chansey)
>3. Pippi (Clefairy)
>4. ??mura (probably Sawamura, Hitmonchan)
>5. ??kii (potentially Mankii, Mankey?)
>6. ??kara (probably Karakara, Cubone)
>7. ???n
>8. ???mo
>9. ???ma
>10. ???-
>11-20 can't be read
>21. Biriridama (Voltorb)
>22. Beroringa (Lickitung)
>23. Coil (Magnemite)
>24. Cactus (unused mon)
>25. Yungeller (Kadabra)
>26. Sleeper (Hypno)
>27. Maiko Male (Nidoking's beta name)
>28. Puu/Buu (unused mon)
>29. Parunda/Barunda A (unused mon)
>30. Strike (Scyther)
>31. Digda (Diglett)

A few name differences of finalized mons in the image dex:
>Kamonegi (Farfetch'd) is called Ikupaan
>Saidon (Rhydon) is called Gagaas
>Kamex (Blastoise) is Carvaggio
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>>35569534
I always imagined they are just balls and they end up with random shit stuck to them
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>>35570526
>Mankey line
Monkey??
>Machop line
>Hitmonlee
They're just human-like pokemon, what's so hard about this?
>Koffing
Although you could call it ambiguous, it's just a pollution orb. People really close their minds when they can't quickly think of an animal or object to make a quick connection.
>Rhydon
Bi-pedal rhinoceros??
>Kangaskhan
Kangaroo? Shares some traits.
>Sycther
Mantis
>Snorlax
Fat bear
I'll accept the rest, but I should point out that still an "abstract and ambiguous" does not make a good design.
Clefairy, jigglypuff, Slowpoke, Koffing, Chansey, Golem aren't very good.
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>>35570637
They are because they are unique
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>>35569921
Turner, please. I know you’re here.

You are considered our MVP here in the English-speaking side of the internet.

Please force-feed the eyecandy that are your Ice designs to the unappeased masses and oust all non-believers. I’m willfully dramatic, say no more.

I have always imagined that the function of Vanilluxe’s straw was to unfreeze & refreeze itself at will to cave ceilings and overhangs. To sleep, to hunt, to commune, idk take your pick. But I imagined they could do the opposite and behave like stalagmite-esque icicle spears or more comically dropped ice cream. Vanillish lacks the straw and maybe it can only manage to “spill” onto the floor.

Being an Ice type with a semi-soft body sort of implies some painstakingly earned &/or innate temperature control that Ice mons like Regice are too ..polarized to find the happy-medium.

With the powers of Astronaut Ice Cream and Soft-Serve all in one. It commands it’s body at will more so than any other Ice type and allows a lot of room for creativity or context to shine through and win hearts. Tbh a few of your Unovan mons took me a while to fully understand but once I did I saw how invaluable the designs would be to both current and future installments. Thank you for literally having taste that feels so close to mine it’s uncanny/jarring. You inspire us all to become the designers we’ve always wanted to be

Sorry for the rant and the poor grammar
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>>35570442
>Have you ever even seen a dog?
Oh yes, a quadrupedal fluffy brown mammal with pointy ears. Totally not a dog.
>That example alone marks the whole post as bullshit.
More like it conveniently gives you an excuse to ignore a post that proves you wrong.
>>35570526
>Bulbasaur
Frog
>Mankey
Seriously? It's a monkey.
>Abra
Fox
>Machop
A fucking wrestler holy fuck, how low is your IQ?
>Hitmonlee
See above
>Rhydon/Nidoking/literally anything else with the same body time
Kaijus. Baragon, Godzilla, pick your poison.
>Kangaskhan
Kangaroo
>Scyther
A mantis
>Snorlax
A bear.
>Magmar
Read the fucking thread.
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>>35570671
Barely, I definetly not agree. Uniqueness does not equal a good design, especially Golem and Chansey with that shit they call arms and legs, like seriously how the fuck do those things even function properly, they're really flawed designs, same problem I have with Blastoise.
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>>35570709
Abra's more a combination of various occult themes. It's not solidly a fox. Fox is clearly the core, however
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>>35570637
>>35570709
>Abra a Fox
>Eevee a Dog
>Kangaskhan a Kangaroo

Oh wow, check out this cool new Zebra pokemon. You can tell it's a Zebra because it has black and white stripes. Please ignore all of the other aspects of the design which don't resemble a real zebra at all.
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>>35569791
it's Hookjaw
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>>35570753
False equivalency, the similarities between the pokemon you mentioned to the animals goes beyond just the color.
Abra is based on a fox-like yokai so it's definetly not incorrect or even a stretch.
Eevee does share dog like features (along with fox and cat ones) as proven by some of it's evos.
Kangaskhan does share traits with a Kangaroo as well, carries a baby with them, similar body, the english branch felt the need to name it similary to a Kangaroo.
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>Thread about cool scrapped mon designs
>Any normal community would have everyone discussing them
>But /vp/ replies to some faggot shitting out painfully obvious bait
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>>35569444
I think the fuck not
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>>35570179
I thing we got Jagg/Jæg/J’hark/Sharps* in the form of M-Sharpedo

I realized how at home this is with 90’s sharks and Kaiju monster designs. Looks like a chibi-fied Pacific Rim enemy woth a decapitated kaiju/harvesting souvenir theme turned into merchandise. Keychain friendly design of anyone with Kaiju nostalgia
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>>35570828
Abra is based on it, but it isn't literally a fox. It has weird armor plates and strange hands and feet. Eevee has dog, cat, and fox features, but isn't solidly any of them, fitting for it's nature as something adaptable. Kangaskhan has a pouch, but it doesn't even hop like a kangaroo and behaves more like some weird dinosaur.

That's the thing about a lot of the gen 1 designs. They're simplistic enough where it feels like they're just a normal animal, but they aren't quite there. That's what makes them feel more unique.

Of course, there are plenty of designs in kanto that just slap some fire on a horse and call it a day, but we could go all day debating this.
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>>35570382
Damn someone put that much effort into bait.
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>>35570877
That's what I'm trying to say (sort of), you CAN make the connection to those animals, you CAN call them those animals, but the guy I replied to decided to just write it off as false like a retard.
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>>35569467
Jesus fucking Christ this is what the rumored switch games have brought upon us.
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>>35570977
woah
really noice m8
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>>35570977
this is fucking fantastic, nice work
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>>35570753
>not thinking kangaskhan is a kangaroo
i bet you think the earth is flat
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>>35570977
Terrifying, but nice work. I'm not sure if that was meant to be hair or leaves or something though.
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>>35570940
Good thing it's not bait.
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>>35571021
Yes, Kangaroos are well known for their stubby legs, large claws, tough leathery hides, and bony skull-plates.
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>>35570877
>Abra is based on it, but it isn't literally a fox
It's mostly fox + magicians, not much different from something like Zoroark.
That one dude that bents spoons literally sued them over Kadabra.
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>>35570466
You are trying too hard
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Is this thing supposed to be a cactus bomb monster or something?
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>>35571155
I think it's supposed to have bird legs, since it looks almost like it has talons. Not sure if it's a tail or a fuse though. If anything I'd expect a spiked ball on the end
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>>35571155

It's name is Cactus, it has bird legs and a tail, and it may or may not have eyes on each cactus segment like Magneton.
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>>35568743
>i bet you don't think Bouffalant was originally a Tauros evo
Not them but why the fuck would anyone think that?

Luvdisc to Alomomola, yeah, but a bull to a buffalo? After people mentioned it, it could be seen to make sense but not up front.

Sure, they've done weird shit like fish > octopus and boar > mammoth (and of late woodpecker > toucan) but who would start out assuming that was true except fucking retards?
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>>35569148
But that's just normal in their universe
Not every universe has to conform to your desires faggot
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>>35568956
>Literally having no imagination and believing that all members of a species look exactly like the model.
Holy shit, that's sad.
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>>35569889
Stag-moose fossil
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>>35570345
Here's the top.
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>>35569611
Shit design, was never meant to see the light of day.
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>>35569486
That sucks
Just say LGPE
Nice and easy
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When This releases tommorow, can someone here scan it?
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>>35569581
Shut the fuck up retarded genwunner
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>>35569192
>headcanon
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muh team...
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>>35569484
Kill yourself then genwun trash
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>>35568628
>Rhydon wasn't the first pokemon
Oh shit, I can revive the first pokemon argument.

Also lol at Spearow getting crossed out a million times while Dinodeer, Crockpot, and Sharpoon were still being considered.
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>>35570382
>>35570466
Actually agree with this. Pokemon are better when they're ambiguous monsters based on more than one animal or concept instead of being a brightly-colored cartoon of a specific thing.

That being said, Gen 1 isn't immune from ripping off animals or concepts almost 1:1. Ninetails is literally a kitsune. Ponyta is literally a horse on fire. Ekans is literally a purple snake. Furthermore, there's plenty of examples of later gens having ambiguous monsters. Typhlosion, Skarmory, Milotic, ect.
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They look like Telefang monsters.
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>>35572065
>Ninetails is literally a kitsune.
Which isn't a real thing. It's a fox with nine tails, unlike Fennekin which is clearly a cartoon fennec.
>Ponyta is literally a horse on fire.
It's not really a specific horse, unlike Mudsdale or Zebstrika.
>Ekans is literally a purple snake.
You should've brought up Arbok instead since it's literally a hooded cobra.
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>>35571985
>Also lol at Spearow getting crossed out a million times while Dinodeer, Crockpot, and Sharpoon were still being considered.
yeah this is funny as shit
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>>35571985
how does this in any way show that rhydon wasn't the first.
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>>35568628
>two of the missing pokemon are blocked by the paper
>one more missing mon is supposed to be there after the shark but we don't get to see it
god dammit
also interesting how nothing on the right side matches the index number at all while the left side matches up perfectly
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>>35572269
It's listed as #18 here. It might of been the first implemented into the games but it wasn't the first one designed.
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>>35570466
>Abra Line
Cartoon Baphomet
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hey guys i dont keep up with the manga, is this issue recent? or are we only bringing this up because kanto is relevant rn
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>>35572302
You idiot
http://www.glitterberri.com/pokemon-red-blue/game-freak-staff-interview/creating-the-pokemon/
And see >>35572281
Everyone's numbers are different on the right page so take it with a grain of salt
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>>35568628
Goofy testicle eyed lizard and spiky deer dragon thing
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>>35568628
Cactus's cry is still in the game data
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYEeLYSM5P0
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>we could've gotten a reindeer and a swordfish
>instead we get fucking voltorb and grimer
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>>35568828
>Kakutasu
>Kak kutas
>What
>Penis
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>>35569467
Even most objectmons have a diet anon...
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>>35568641
>haxorus
>soulless
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>>35572065
Ninetails is a direct ripoff of a figure from jap culture, same as farfetch'd and meowth. The question isn't if they're real or not, is about how original the design is.
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>>35568628
Is that a popularity rank on the left? Exeggutor is on top.
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>>35569288
???
Gastly looks exactly the same
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>>35569428
It really weirded me out when I realised its eyes aren't the huge eyes on the head,
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>>35572885
Are you Polish?
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>>35571052
And fennecs are known for having two tails, bright yellow fur with red tufts inside. ¯\_ (ツ) _/¯
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>>35573424
>But it's a different color!

Wow, you got me. Like this cool picture of a dog I found?
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>>35568628
I wonder if that recent focus on beta stuff has any implication on the upcoming games.

Hopefully yes. Since we're back to Kanto, I hope they'll relive some of the old, scrapped ideas.
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>>35571362
>Masuda went to France recently
>Took a picture of a fossil of an ancient moose
Hey wait..
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>>35568628
Has anybody done Red/Blue-style watercolor artwork of them yet?
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>>35571155
Looks kinda like nerves
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>>35568641
>souless
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>>35569581
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>>35568806
Those are T-Rex proportions right there though.
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>>35569921
This
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>>35574427
omfg I love you, that's awesome
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>>35574427
Nice.
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>>35574486
>>35574509
Thanks!

This one is unsavable tho. It’s just an ugly design.
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>>35574427
This would be considered overdesigned piece of trash if introduced in a new gen
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>>35574527
It's ok. We'd say the same of monsters like Magmar or Jynx if they were revealed now
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>>35574527
don't you talk shit about crackcroc motherfucker
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>>35574527
wrong
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>>35574427
Please be there in Sequel Kanto.
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>>35570977
FARFIGNUGLETRON?
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>>35574535
>wahhh genwunners wont accept my nushit
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I’m a genwunner and I’d love those.
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>>35574527
Nah it's pretty cute. Still love the spiky moose thing best.
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>>35574622
Your art is really good anon. Can you design more Genwun fakemon?
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>>35574622
The shark is amazing. If if they blended a hammerhead and carpenter into one
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>>35574676
Thank you very much! Of course. Which one would you like to see?
(I don’t like the one you posted tho, it’s the fairy in Molly’s book in the 3rd movie right? Not a fan of human like, sorry)
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>>35574701
*Its if* meant to say that instead
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>>35574707
Can you do the 4koma mons?
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>>35574759
Where does this come from?
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>>35569908
back in gen 1 poké balls didn't have buttons because they're based on Gachapon balls.
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>>35568628
I like how zorak wasn't supposed to be a complete circle and was more gaseous
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>>35568641
>meowstic
>not one of the most soulful pokemon of nugen
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>>35573303
What? One is a pure floating thing of gas, with no defined outlines, while the other has a circular body with globular gas surrounding it. It doesn't have the biggest changes (I'd give that honor to Moltres), but it has pretty noticeable differences compared to other RG sprites versus the final designs.
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>>35574676
>>35574759
Ew
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>>35574527
give him those chill eyelids and boom, saved.
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>>35568691
Voltorb and Electrode existed because Pokemon is an RPG and it was their take on the mimic enemy type.

Critisicing their design completely misses the point. They aren't supposed to look good.
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>>35568755
This
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>>35569142
Kangaskhan is born with its kid
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>that shark
>that moose

WHY WOULD THISE BE CUT THEY'RE AMAZING
REEEEEEEEE
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>>35568628
Pokemon 61, which is also an unused mon, looks kinda like a cow from what we can see of it. It also comes right after Tauros in index order.
It's probably the prototype design of Miltank.
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>>35570871
i mean, it would without all the yellow.
or even just some of the yellow.
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We can kind of see some more here.
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>>35568628
>Interesting, huh?
He knows and he's trying to tell us.
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I am browsing this thread with X-File theme. It's amazing though, we are revealed to this cause when it was in the 90's, we were too young to think of all these beta concepts, BTS stuff and early production/ideations.
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>>35570709

Snorlax is a cat you retard
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>>35569192
>headcannon

More like headass, back to tumblr with you faggot
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>>35575118
name,stats,typing probably couldnt think of those for all we know the moose could be beta stantler
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Unused pokemon is always a really interesting topic, I hope GF is willing to show us more
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Beta Hopip, was gonna be more focused on a cat
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>>35574622
>>35574427
Damm, now I really want the game to introduce new mons.
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>Spearow crossed out repeatedly
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>>35568956
>"shuppet and banette always happen to find an identical puppet to possess, huh?"

Jesus Christ, genwunners.
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>>35576919
Or a long beta Sawsbuck.
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>>35570382
Diglett is a poor example for ambiguity in design.
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>>35578675
Not really. Even the moles in the picture you posted still look like cartoon moles. Diglett just looks like a dome with a oval nose on it.
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>>35578690
You think maybe they just didn't want it to be a literal mole?
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>>35578690
A smiley looks like a circle with two ovals and an arc. It still is representative of a human face.




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