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NO!
APOLOGIZE RIGHT THIS FUCKING SECOND!
NOW! IF YOU HATED THIS GEN WHEN IT RELEASED YOU ARE THE PROBLEM THAT KILLED THIS FRANCHISE!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>zoomers now looking back on an even worse cash grab in a positive light
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>>36092464
WE'VE GOT TO GO BACK, BROS
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>>36092464
>sewers
Sorry unova was shit
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>>36092474
>>36092485
shit taste, these games are universally loved
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>>36092464
I agree.
>>36092485
Please kys faggot.
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>>36092464
Honestly, despite the autistic screeching, this. The failure and negative reception of Gen V is why we are in the state we’re in. Gen V was good, and it could’ve kept being good, but the hatred towards it literally broke Masuda. It was his magnum opus, and when so many fans hated on it for hardly any good reason, it just broke him which is why he just feeds us shit now and doesn’t care about game quality because they’ll still sell enough to pay his salary and he was taught that no matter how hard he works, he’ll be criticized and hated, so why bother.
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Only gen 5 drawback was the limited region with small routes. Anything else was fucking great. I hadnt enjoyed a pokemon gen 6+ game as much as bw2
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>>36092464
This game was a perfect closure to gen V, the DS era, the 2D era and the golden age of Pokémon. Best games in the franchise.
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>>36092464
>Being this angry

Get a fucking life neckbeard
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I want to go back to this magical time of content and fun before everything changed when the kanto nation attacked.
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>>36092464
Yeah, Gen 5 were the best for a reason, and B2/W2 being a true genuine sequel is a way better idea rather than a third version or whatever the fuck US/UM was. I don't understand how the fuck people can be so upset with these games at all, especially compared with what we have now.
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>>36092833
But his magnum opus was Diamond and Pearl and Sinnoh in general
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About to do a randomized run right now
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>>36092891
My thoughts exactly. This is what should have happened to US/UM.
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>>36092833
If masuda has that much of a mental breakdown because of bad reception, he shouldnt be a director ever again. No matter what company you are, youre going to lose sometimes. He had the right idea, but it was just too much at once, at least, thats why i think it had such bad reception.
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>"Let's make an entirely new region with its own self encompassing Pokedex that essentially serves as a soft reboot"
>Negative as fuck reaction
>"Okay I guess we'll just give them what they want and jack off Gen 1 and Kanto instead, since they don't want originality anymore. Don't bother making too many more new and original Pokemon anymore guys, make sure to keep it under 100."
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>>36092474
>BW tried to reboot the series
>0 Kanto pandering
>>Cashgrab
BUY LET'S GO!
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>>36092967
What makes Sinnoh better than Unova?
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>>36093025
The amount of new Pokemon is not the issue. The regions lack depth. The games lack post game content and really any content beyond the main story line. The thing they've kept from Gen 5 is the terrible anime storylines, gimmicks, increasingly ridiculous characters and designs.
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>>36092464
>I loved Unova
feels bad man
What the fuck happened to Pokemon , they went full Sonic tier
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>>36093063
The comfiest region to exist basically. Remember when you were in a city and then next a desert in Unova? Fuck off.
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>>36093064
I sort of hadn't noticed that the amount of new mons has been less then 100 until making that post, so I focused on that more. You are right though.
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>>36093095
>Remember when you were in a city and then next a desert in Unova?
There's Sonora (México), Africa, Australia...
But I get your point. It was kinda dumb.
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i'm genuinely sorry. iwata was right
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>>36092464
>almost everyone I know trashed Gen V when it came out
>now all of them that did have taken it back and say how it was the best all along
Bunch of fags.
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>>36092833
Weird considering Gen 3 had a worse reception.
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>Bought BW and liked it
>never bought BW2
>didn't play it for years
>play it recently
>it's fucking outstanding, my favorite Pokemon game by a huge margin
I'm sorry, Gen 5, I wish I supported you all the way through.
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>>36092464
>white 2
Enjoy ez mode lmao
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>>36093760
>easy mode was actually hard
They gives you less experience in battle making the grind more slow
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>>36092464
BW1 were shit. BW2 were masterpieces.
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>>36093036
>0 Kanto pandering
>they literally copy MUH 150, MUH 3 stages humanoid fighter, MUH humanoid 2 humanoid fighters, MUH 3 stages psychic, MUH 3 stages rock, etc
Imagine being this mongoloid
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>>36092845
BW2 made the region quite a bit better. Best mid-gen game by REALLY FAR.
It improved and added so much, and actually fixed the major flaws of the original, unlike every other "third version" which were technical improvements at worst and a single postgame area at best.
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>>36092474
>A game with solid story and characters.
>Cash grab
>Two consecutive generations of Kanto pandering.
>Not a cash grab.

You are an embarrassment.
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>>36093792
flawed logic
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>>36093792
Damn man, they had pokemon with evolutions in this pokemon game? Here I was thinking I liked anything except gen 1, but I've been shown the light.
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>>36093792
>IT'S JUST KANTO WITH DIFFERENT A DIFFERENT REGION, STORY AND POKEMON!
Imagine Drinking this much $()ý
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>>36093866
Just look at this degenerate mutant scum reeing over this trash. Somehow, they're actually worse than gen3 fags. Even gen4 fags aren't this autistic and they are completely fucking retarded.

You mongoloids are rustled something fierce.
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>>36093955
>Mass replying
Nice b8? Maybe? either way use an escape rope to neck yourself.
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why would I apologize? The franchise is going back to where I want it to go.
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>>36093955
Oh no, he mass replied! You really have us cornered this time!
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>>36094034
Imagine being this assblasted.
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>>36094028
Ah, I see you're an epic meme Lord.
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>>36092959
Kanto’s glorious return is way more fun :)
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>>36094047
Keep telling yourself that.
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>>36092464
No, fuck gen 5, I'd rather have this franchise go to shit than apologize to those pieces of crap
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BW2 were great games but BW were not very good. Gen V deserves the criticism it gets.
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>>36094048
Wew lad, you sure showed me for daring to criticize autistic Nfags... by calling out memes on 4chins. kys, faggot.
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>>36092833
Love his music in Gen 1 and 2, but Masuda was/is a bad director.
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gen 5>4>3>2>1>6>7

you CANNOT FUCKING REFUTE THIS
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>>36094158
lmao
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>>36093751
>pre-ordered japanese Black
>loved the game, ordered a special DSi White version
>bought White 2
>didn't buy Black 2
I'm sorry bros...
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>>36094128
BW were the best first versions by far what are you smoking
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>>36094158
I can't because you didn't give any arguments for me to refute in the first place.
But I'd put 4 above 5 myself.
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>>36094158
this is my rankings as well but taste is subjective so other people can have different taste than this
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Best soundtrack
https://youtu.be/8euJOK-KWXQ
https://youtu.be/Zoe2WBSfWMQ
https://youtu.be/Wn0Fe3FKbco
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>>36094158
World class autism there, anon.
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>>36094212
This 2B F0R Realz My Guis
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>>36094221
World class autism there, anon.
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>>36094192
They were the same as any other new pokemon game except watered down. More linear than previous games, more handholding than previous games, poor pokemon variety until more than halfway through the game, and less challenging than previous games with gym leaders having max 3 pokemon and the elite four having 4.

BW is unique in that it gives players a fresh dex but the gameplay is mediocre.
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>>36092525
t. retard
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>>36093955
Hey, what's wrong with gen 3? I thought it was nice. Mind elaborating?
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>>36094229
World class autism there, anon.
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>>36094257
World class autism there, anon.
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>>36092464
I hated it, slow batling and slow conversation.
I'm still hating lets go shits
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>>36094257
>saving a thumbnail
Actual autism tbqh
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>>36094245
Nothing really. It's a solid game, but the fanboys have always been insufferable autismos, at least until ORAS put them in their place. But even their autism pales in comparison to the drooling mongoloids that need everyone to know how amazing N is.
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>>36093955
>Even gen4 fags aren't this autistic
>replies to multiple sinnohfetuses
ok
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>>36094158
impeccable
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>>36092464
BW2 okay but BW no. 90% of gen 6 and 7's faults are all thanks to BW.
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>>36094100
Buy lets go and dont bother true fan fan , boomer.
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>>36092464
I don't. And I AM disappointed to those who hate it, it's ironic that BW can be seen as the benchmark for a "good" Pokemon game, from what I've seen with the reactions here now. Kanto has become bloated in time.
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>>36092464
why was this game good? Actually, why are so many people coming to defend it now since the wave of shitposting on this game died years ago?
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>>36092464
underage
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>>36094685
>it's ironic that BW can be seen as the benchmark for a "good" Pokemon game,
Plot and dialogue over gameplay, no difficulty, trainers with low amounts of mons, no postgame, barely any new mechanics added, shit graphics make a game good?
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>>36094778
Being an anti-anti-genwunners are worse. Bye, faggot.
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>>36094158
Holy shit this fucking absolute shit taste

5>4>3>2>1>shit>7>6

Fixed it for you nerd. SM is at least fun the first time around. ORAS on the other hand is a inferior game compared to emerald while XY is SM done worse and more unfinished.
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>>36094794
>describe flaws of the game
>hurr durr you're anti fuck faggot
Okay, Unovababy.
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>>36094799
LMAO
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I liked B/W2. I just didn't like B/W.
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>>36092833
Ok but like the negative reception came from söys who didnt even play it and just complained about Vanillite on Facebook because MUH CHILDHOOD. They hadnt put a penny towards the franchise since the gen 1 fad ended.
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>>36094143
>u is calling out meme on the chin xD epic trolled
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>>36094881
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>>36094181
>pre-ordered Japanese White
>pre-ordered English Black
>pre-ordered Japanese Black 2
>pre-ordered English White 2
>still stuck in this timeline
>pirated every game since
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>Gen 5 has a good story
Why does this meme exist?
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>>36094860
lord, thanks for reminding me 3d is pig disgusting
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>>36095036
Because some people actually think that. They're enamored with N, even though he's a a spastic fuck that jabbers nonsensically and gets BTFO by everyone around him. But apparently it's meaningful and touching.
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>>36094977
>bought japanese Black
>bought japanese White
>bought german White 2
I should've bought Black 2 too. I'm sorry bros...
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>>36093857
>solid story
>bw2
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>>36092464
i always loved gen 5 but i still love gen 7, they're my favorites gens, am i a bad person?
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>>36095240
Yes.
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>>36092464
i agree, really sad state of 5oy cucks
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>>36093036
>0 kanto pandering
>half the mons are kanto expies and charizard/pikachu are splattered everywhere despite not even being in the fucking game
jesus christ you unovafags are almost as retarded as the lgpe shills
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>>36093095
Rain shadow effect. Look it up
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>>36093095
>city and then next a desert
are you really that fucking stupid?
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>>36093740
How many people? Who in particular?

>>36093744
The jump to 3D ruined Pokemon. Game Freak wasn't ready.
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Oh boy it's another thread where the summer kids forget that Gen V hype is the reason /vp/ even exists.
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I apologise. Didn't like BW at the time.

BW2 and SM have been the only semi redeemable games released since. And even the latter is only good for a single playthrough.
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>>36095840
>See Timburr and Roggenrola
“Oh my gosh, I’m sooo nostalgic over this...”
You don’t get nostalgic over Starly or Grubbin. It’s just trope filler that didn’t exist until then
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>>36094368
>Lily is a sinnohslut
Pathetic
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>>36096140
And what does that add to the argument? You exist because your parents made a horrible mistake, but that isn't relevant to the argument either.
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>>36096335
Gen V's poor reception among casual fans led to us getting shit like XY, meanwhile diehard fans on /v/ were so vocal about the games that an entire board had to be created to contain them. It feels a little silly to come to the board that Gen V created only to cry and naysay it.
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>>36093001
>>36093809
bw2 is not exaclty a third version as emerald was to RS, platinum to DP
It actually was a fucking different story, it was a sequel as GSC was to RBGY, a great sequel
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>>36093095
>comfiest region
>have to go to mt.coronet like 30 times
>have to go around the region once just to battle fantina
fuck off
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>>36095840
The idea is that because Unova is far away from Kanto and other japanese regions, their common pokemon wouldn't be the same.

You bet that their intention was to keep the trend for other western based regions. Too bad that people whined too much so they bought back the Caterpies and Pidgeys. So yeah, there's your Kanto pandering.
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>>36097633
you're exaggerating
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>>36094799
based
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>>36094158
5>Plat>2>1>3>4>7>6
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>>36092464
But what game was better forget story, pacing and anything that isn't gameplay.

BW or BW2?
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>people say gen 5 is the easiest gen
Let's compare it to the "hardest" game.
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>>36094799
>>36098857

> "...7>6 / 6>7 "

Does everyone actually hate the last 2 gens or are they just trying hard to fit in?
Gen 7 was a lot of fun, great characters, story, region and all but has the shittiest replay-ability of all the games along with other major problems.
Gen 6 was ultra comf with some of the best routes, music and pokemon designs. (and some of the worst too but every game has its flaws)
They had so much wasted potential too I'm not denying that. Horrible decisions were made but they're still decent to play through, for a pokemon game.

On the other hand, 2 and 1 feel like they are way too overrated because muh nostalgia, despite not having aged well whatsoever.
I'm not saying they are bad, I replayed them recently and got some fun out of Crystal. but I would definitely class them last in the grand scheme of things
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>>36099514
cyrus was before gym 8, it's decent in that context
as bossfight compare ghetsis to barry instead
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HGSS>Plat>5>everything else
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>>36099605
Still not the same level, though you could argue that Gen 5 was a higher experience game then the previous generations.
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>>36099571
I assume those people are talking about the HGSS and FRLG rather than the originals, otherwise they are full of shit
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>>36092525
by those who were 10 year olds at its release
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>>36099650
Nah that's about par when you consider Ghetsis is after you've probably leveled up a few times against the Elite 4 and N.
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>>36099655
That would definitely change my ranking. Personally, I count HGSS as Gen 4 and FRLG as Gen 3. Personally, I think that’s how it should be done when you’re ranking generations. If you wanna group HGSS/GSC and FRLG/RGBY, then rank by region.
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>>36099650
Why is Barry's team so comfy?
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>>36099684
that ghetsis is from bw2 anon
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>>36099684
That Ghetsis is BW2, meaning you have not yet have had access to the E4.
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>>36099700
>>36099703
Oh okay, neat.
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>>36092464
BW its great!
BW2, the story is shit and i hate it
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>>36099514
the gen 5 rivals were still a disappointment team-wise
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>>36099725
True, though the memory link fights were cool.
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>>36099754
>all of Bianca's mons have return
That's kinda a cute.
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>>36094158
You are correct
If anything I'll swap 6 and 1 but either this way it's ok.
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>>36094158
5 > 7 > 4 > 3 > 6 > 1 > 2
fight me
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>>36092464
>a bunch of loudmouths had to ruin it for /vp/ for all time because "where's muh Zubat?"
Tragic. Truly tragic.
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>bw2 have optional romance you actually have to randomly work for
best game
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>>36099865
wtf, are you me.
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>>36100091
It would have been 10 times better if they co-stared in the love and battle movie series.
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>>36100112
Would’ve been better if I could have taken the yuri route
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Platinum, HGSS, BW, B2W2 were the best games. All DS games were amazing, it seems.
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>>36093080
>stans
fuck off
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>beat the game
>feel no desire to do post-game stuff
welp
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>>36100305
you didnt even explore around and find the sages?

didnt fight cynthia?
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>>36100304
no u
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>>36100305
postgame is boring anyway
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>>36094158
I agree.
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>>36100310
nope. I didn't know I'd get to fight Cynthia though, that's interesting
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>>36092464
4 > 5 > 3 > 1 = 6 > 2 = 7
it's not that 2 and 7 were bad, i just found them uninteresting
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>>36092464
Gen V produced my favorite Pokemon. Overall one of my top favorite gens.
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>>36100520
>stantlerforfurries.png
Yeah, gen 5 was so creative
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>>36092464
>if you hate a game in which the devs decided removing content was a thing they should do then you're the problem
Wrong, faggot.

Hating them is retarded, but the devs are the ones who decided to remove content and then went through with it, not the players.


If anyone in the player base is to be the problem it would be the ones who made them think that was needed - the retarded Japanese tards who complained after somehow getting lost in Mt. Coronet.
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>Last games to introduce 100+ new mons
>Last games to have events for Mythicals
>Last games to have multiple towns for postgame
>Last games to not have a bunch of legends coming though portals
>Last games to have a frontier-esque facility that isn't just a Tower clone
>Kanto pandering to a minimum
>Bunch of QoL additions like limitless TMs and Habitat List
>Several cool new features like shaking grass, hidden grottoes, and new battles types
>Second versions are new games instead of upgrades
Just imagine where we'd be now if GF followed this precedent
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>>36100736
last games to have good rivals
only games to try to do something interesting with the story
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>>36100736
sprites and general artwork are actually appealing instead of dead-eyed models with repetitive animation and reuse of assets
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>>36100765
The story was shit. Trying doesn't make it better. Hugh was the only decent rival in Gen 5 because he wasn't bland like the rest.
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Oldfag here who gave up around 2012/2013 when the Gen 3 remakes were released. Can't believe there is actually nostalgia for Gen 5 now.

Pokemon has been a ded series since the HGSS hype died down and BW were colossal failures. Pokemon Go was the only reprieve but even that was dead within a month. You kids are deluding yourself trying to look for positives in these utterly irredeemable cash grabs.

On a side note it's /vp/'s birthday tomorrow. First came to this board in 2010 and its my first time back in about 4 years. Time flies.
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>>36100784
Those eyes look retarded as fuck and you know it
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>>36094158
1 = 2 = 3 = 4 = 5 > 6 > 7
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>>36099571
>Does everyone actually hate the last 2 gens or are they just trying hard to fit in?
Hate is strong word, but I do dislike them.
> 2 and 1 feel like they are way too overrated because muh nostalgia
Overrated isn't a real criticism.
I still enjoy the aesthetics and music of the first 2 generations.
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>>36100810
yes thats what i implied, seeing the same models from x/y two "gens" later is jarring
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>>36096094
>How many people?
30+
>Who in particular?
Friends from school.
They all hated Gen 5 at first, now all of them like it the most.
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>>36100388
>Garbage opinions.
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>>36100835
Overrated is not real criticism you're right, I wasn't talking about the game themselves but more so the audience. My post wasn't about making a rant on the older gens.
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>>36100765
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>Pokemon Go was the only reprieve
>the only reprieve

yay, yay, woowk mommy, me getted the pweettty aminmimal on me phowne! dis pikaman is my bwest fweiend!!
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>>36100934
Yes you mongoloid. Pokemon Go was hugely popular for a couple weeks and reinvigorated interest in the franchise. The game might've been shit but that does count for something.
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>>36092464
i started this game three times already and never finished it. cant say that for any other gen. cant pinpoint why though
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>>36100946
Popularity isn’t really a reflection of quality.
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>>36100976
It is when gameplay is mediocre and community makes the game what it is. Who cares about whether or not Gen 683 has a slightly more interesting storyline than the last one? If noone is fucking playing the games it doesn't matter. Pokemon isn't the kind of game you can sink hours into like others unless you're young or extremely autistic, it doesn't have enough variety.
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>>36100900
Oh, okay then. My bad, dude.
Didn't mean to come across as rude or anything.
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>>36100946
Here's the thing, I am not saying it hasn't been a super successful game, it's just you're giving it a bit too much credit. While Go has generated 1.8 billion in revenue to date, it should be noted that the peak is over. Additionally, the game series is still massively successful, pulling at least a solid billion per generation.

Granted, the first generation was the peak, with nearly 2 billion in revenue. But Go's flash in the pan success is hardly a comparison. Especially going so far as to claim it reinvigorated interest in anything when the games are literally still as successful as they ever were after the first gen came out. Of course, they haven't grown either since then, but for games that cost at most just tens of millions, their profit margins are literally outrageous.
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>>36092464
Like, in terms of Pokémon designs, Gen V was the weakest to me but the actual games were great. BW is the best initial pair and B2W2 are only second to Platinum for me.
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>>36100803
>Oldfag here who gave up around 2012/2013 when the gen 3 remakes were released
They came out in late 2014, almost 2015 you fucking retard. And your little side note at the end was overkill, way to out yourself as actually a newfag.
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>>36092464
Fuck off, these games spelled the downfall of Pokemon. You can't walk two steps with some incessant fuck stopping you to ramble about stupid shit.

Linear as fuck region too that's a chore to explore.

So damn boring that I really have to force myself to finish.
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>>36102535
*without
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>>36102535
>>the downfall of Pokemon
>the game with the most content
>the game with the most optional hidden content
>the game with the most postgame content
>the game with the most online content
It's one thing not to like Pokemon's story, it's another thing to pretend BW2 was anything but the last time Gamefreak gave a fuck.
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>>36093955
go to bed blueman
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>>36092464
I don't like linear games, BW was too linear and handholding and BW2 seemed more open at first but had even more areas blocked off. Every game since then has become more and more handholding to the point where SuMo was basically a giant cutscene. Are you sure Gen 5 isn't what killed it?
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>>36094158
idiot
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>>36102702
More isn't always better, it might've had more stuff but the game walked you through its main campaign like an autistic child on a leash being taken down the street to the gas station to get oreos cause he was good and didn't try and squeeze the dog today
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>>36102702
None of that means shit if the campaign is a god-awful snorefest.
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I think people were fine with BW2

BW was the beginning of the end. Accept it.
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>>36092833
>Gen V was good
No, it wasn't.
> It was his magnum opus, and when so many fans hated on it for hardly any good reason
You fucks just refuse to listen to the reasons being listed over and over again.
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>mfw my favorite game, Platinum, remains completely untouched
I feel so bad for people who genuinely wanted a good Yellow remake. As someone who loves LeafGreen, I feel the pain.
I mean, seriously. If they released a babby-fied chinese phone game based in Sinnoh, I'd fucking cry.
>T-Trust us!
I think the fact that they even had to say that about LGPE says plenty. GF being hesitant is unprecedented.
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>>36102850
It's going to happen eventually and things are only getting worse. Accept it now and it'll be easier when it comes.
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>>36102800
This is kinda how I feel. Gen 5 was undeniably the beginning of the bad times, but it was not too bad yet, and BW2 undeniably has a lot of content and lots of places to explore.
XY was the point of no return. No trainer having more than 4 mons, complete lack of postgame besides the Looker quest that resolves nothing, and rivals shoving items down your throat. I don't even mind a friendly rival, Barry is my favorite, but the XY trio just talk about how strong you are. They never feel competitive. Like, who gives a shit about Tierno dancing? Fuck off.
It's been all downward from there.
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>>36102856
No it won't.
Shut up.
It won't.
It
won't
happen.
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>>36102865
FWIW, we may be past the worst. USUM may not have been worth it for people who already had SM, but it's a notable improvement in both feeling of being able to do things, and difficulty. Gen 7 also had at least one kinda-rival that cared about losing, even if Hau didn't.

Iff the thing about LGPE splitting the audience into casual and hardcore is true, then that trend reversal might continue.
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>>36102850
>GF being hesitant is unprecedented.
True, the strategic image of the brand may be at stake, because considered core elements are being changed, like now being on a home console, having GO gameplay, having two player co-op and deleting 80% of the Pokédex they've built over the years. They are well aware of the risk although they don't care because there is a huge earnings potential behind GO and Kanto characters. The best we are going to get is a "trust us" message lmao.
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>>36102894
I'd like to believe they're gonna put lots of effort into gen 8 to make it worth the wait, but this is GF we're talking about. They say whatever they think will make more people buy it.
I'm not believing anything they say until its actually out.
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>my childhood gen is the best!
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>>36102946
Good thing you're so above it all, anon.
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>>36092464
shut the fuck up goddamn nobody cares about your love for the shittiest gen
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>>36092798
Sorry your first Pokémon games are shit
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>>36102702
HG/SS beats it in most of those categories.
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>>36092833
The failure and negative state of gen V was because gen V sucked. Fuck off with your shitty logic.
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Base BW were terrible and needed sequels for Unova to be fixed.
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>>36099514
>zoomers so bad at the game they make hydreigon a physical attacker
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>>36103582
Hydreigon has 105 base attack, which is still a pretty scary prospect with life orb and it's good speed.




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