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Muh.. LGPE are easy!!!11!!1!1
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>two level increase
>when your entire party will have been getting mandatory exp share boosts and you now get EXP for catching things
it better have a superb AI and moveset
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>Mega Evolution.
Try again shill.
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>mega evolution
>new exp share
>have to have a ground type to enter the gym
doesn't really count
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>>36278809
>complaining about a completely optional feature
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>>36278811
OP BTFO holy shit !
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>>36278803

Yeh yeh 2 level increased, if was 1-2 level decreased ---->> oh nooo GF sucks!!!1!1
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>>36278795
you have exp-share from lv1 and growing exp if you're underleveled.
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>>36278811
WAIT NO I NEED MORE TIME
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>>36278811
(you)
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>>36278841
you got me there
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OP is italian,italians love this fucking game
Coglione,sti giochi di merda sono per ritardati come te,vai a bazzicare su quella tumorata di Pokémon Millennium
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>>36278803
If nothing else it shows that they are aware that the game needed a rebalancing because of the new mandatory tools given to the players, so they made an attempt.
It was a lazy and half-assed attempt but this is a lazy and half-assed game so it fits.
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>>36278841
Are you fucking serious?Go fuck yourself pizza mandolino
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>>36278811
THIS CANT BEHAPPENING

AAAAAAAA NOT OPS THREAD
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>>36278841
>oh no it has two useless shitmons that die in one hit
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>>36278854
English board , talk english

E vacce te da quelli di millennium che ti si addice
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>>36278822
Well yes, making one part of the game barely harder when you have casualized everything else doesn't make that much impact. Making it barely easier even with all the casualization would feel like an insult.
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>>36278916
>Write in english
>Speak English
I'm not talking dear Pizza Mafia Mandolino
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>>36278795
You must be fucking dumb to believe that this will be more difficult than the original Yellow version. They literally said the games will be the easiest ones so far because of the new and young players.

They literally said that veteran players should not even bother to buy this shit and wait for 2019.

There's some real fucking retards in this board holy shit. OP included.
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>>36278809
>Mega Evolution
>At that point of the game

Lol
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>>36278803
>you now get EXP for catching things
That’s been a thing since 2013.
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>Before I let you in, you have to show me a Ground Type Pokemon that can't get Paralyzed by Lt. Surge's Pokemon! Have you tried Diglett's Cave, just outside of town?
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>>36278811
Yup this game is simply a tutorial game for kids getting into pokemon
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>>36278942
>>36279321
And if these games sell better than Gen 6 or Gen 7, GameFreak will assume they did something right by tackling the Casual Market at full force, and Gen 8 will quickly be delayed and reworked to be just as bad if not worse than LGPE.
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>>36279302
except the game has exp-share permanently turned on for your whole party
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>>36278942
If you really think a company would say, “if you’re hardcore about our series don’t buy this game” then I believe you’ve got some retardation yourself
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>>36279302
But never in Kanto. This is a comparison to previous Kanto iterations.
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It's like ORAS's Elite 4 getting a two level boost- the thought is nice but it required someone to think about difficulty in that one instance while leaving the rest of the game cheese.

Not that these games were ever going to be hard, this is drama.
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>>36278795
Nigga they will force you to be lv 25 or bring a Dugtrio or some shit. Levels don't matter when you have to be lv 20 for misty or you can't challenge it at all.
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>>36278795
>forced exp share
what do you think anon
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>>36278841
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THIS WASN'T SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN
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>>36278841
oh shit
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>>36278841
STOP
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>>36278795
>This single, insignificant change somehow invalidate everything else they've made easier
Then again, I'd expect no less from LGPE's target audience.
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>>36279302
And?
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>>36279523
Catching requires skill for the first time in the seires and other trainers are already proven to be harder, both level and moveset wise, though
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>>36279531
>Catching requires skill for the first time in the seires
No.
>other trainers are already proven to be harder, both level and moveset wise, though
only Lt surge and we dont know his other pokemon.
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>>36279530
2013 is not now.
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>>36279531
Prove your claim, otherwise it's pointless.

Also if that is in fact the case, then OP is a blithering idiot who picked the stupidest argument for "LGPE is hard" for no reason other than being a buffoon.
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>>36278811
>only has Raichu
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>>36279531
Catching now is actually easier. All of LGPE has Japanese school kids with Down Syndrome in mind.
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>>36279552
again, and?
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>>36279550
>>36279581
>>36279746
How is catching in GO easier (actually hitting the pokemon with the pokeball, curveball throws, good/great/excellent throws) than just pressing a button? Are we actually discussing this?
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>>36279771
>How is catching in GO easier
you litteraly just throw a pokeball, wow.
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>>36279783
that's the Gen 1-7 games, yes, I'm talking about LGPE

With GO there are several skill-based mechanics involved, whereas the mainline games only have RNG-based mechanics
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>>36279771
The process of caching doesn't include only the throwing part. You are supposed to weaken it put a status on it, you know battle it before you catch it. Go is harder than caching pokemon in the safari zone but that's about it.
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>>36278795
hopefully these games turn out well, would actually be insane if they included a hardcore mode for veterans similiar to B/W2
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>>36279332
That's the weird part, they kind of are.

They want everyone to buy it, surely, but you don't do that by removing content.

They're actually nostalgiafagging, but pandering to people who don't want your games is retarded.

This is why it will hopefully flop and Masuda who has taken responsibility for it, will be fired.

They're targeting people who did play but don't anymore, and not giving people who actually care about the series as is any actual reason to buy it.
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>>36279810
>Gen 1-7 games
weaken the pokemon , made it sleep , be sure it doesnt flee, dont KO it , dont let it struggle to death , warning if it recover , beware critical it.
>Go retard
throw a pokeball.
I get it buy LGPE and dont bother uus , I'm sure you're the kind of people who labeled themself "gamer" becuse they played candy crush.
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>>36279771
That's it? It literally boils down to "it's harder if you haven't played GO" which, let's face it, is dumb.

Also you still have yet to prove the trainer part.
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>>36279783
>>36279821
You can miss or overshoot, you have to pay attention to attacks in order to actually catch the Pokemon (which can also move/dodge) and you can do various different throws to improve the chances of catching something that require some sort of skill instead of
>press a button

How is it simplified? It's different and more skill-based and involved on the player's part. It's also a lot more fun, imho. I'd love if the Gen 8 games had this while also letting you weaken the Pokemon.

>>36279840
>throw a Pokeball
Stop saying this, it's now how it works. Saying clearly wrong things will only make you look retarded. Also, it's idiotic that you point out "fleeing" as a mechanic in the mainline games when very few Pokemon do it, while EVERY encounter in GO has this mechanic. So dumb.

>>36279850
Starmie having Scald, OP's picture, that Wartortle from the other trailer...
Do you even watch the trailers, anon?
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>>36279757
And maybe you should go back to school if you don’t understand what “now” means.
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>>36279868
Nobody cares about your >imho, you are a GOfag who only knows GO. GOfags like Go what a surprise. We are the ones being forced to switch from something we liked doing to something we don't, go play the older games and even if you hate it you'll see that it's not easier.
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>>36279868
>throw a Pokeball
thats right tho , once you have the movement its easy as shit.
>Also, it's idiotic that you point out "fleeing" as a mechanic in the mainline games when very few Pokemon do it
Because casual garbage like you exist we dont roaming legendary anymore.
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>>36279868
>Starmie having Scald, OP's picture, that Wartortle from the other trailer
Is that it? You said that so confidently I thought there's more to it.
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>>36278811
>has one pokemon
thanks for proving op's point slut
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>implying they will allow you to get in the gym without a digglet/dugtrio to chease it
kek
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>>36279903
I've never had any trouble catching any Pokemon before though, and I've played all the mainline games. Is it that hard to
>do an attack
>press a button
Because if that's so, then LGPE's mechanics are gonna be a nightmare for you, anon

>>36279909
>This one istance where a Pokemon can flee makes the system harder, even though every Pokemon in GO has a fleeing mechanic!
Based retard.

>>36279911
What do you mean? I just pointed out some examples based on the trailers we've seen so far. You asked me to prove a point and I did. Can you say the same, anon? I don't think you can.
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>>36279889
Now
nou/Submit
adverb
1.
at the present time or moment.
"where are you living now?"
synonyms: at the moment, at present, at the present (time/moment), at this moment in time, currently, presently More
It seems to me that those feature are in the games at this present moment :^)
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>>36279771
Catching a Pokemon before Go required more thought than just spamming a button. It required you to think about how to reduce a Pokemon's HP and status without fainting it.
GO's system is heavily RNG based that you can barely influence, with like 1 berry at a time being usable on a Pokemon. If you spend longer than usual trying to catch a Pokemon in GO, its likely you are physical handicapped, are just that bad, or more likely have terrible RNG.
Plus, with GO type of wild encounters, you don't have to worry about going to the Pokemon Center while still getting EXP for your entire party (and that's without the portable PC too)
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>>36279936
>I don't think you can
Of course not. Can't prove anything when I claim nothing.

Also, what I meant was that you claimed it was harder. I acknowledge that there are changes, but that itself doesn't make it "harder".
That said, there are possibility of it being more difficult, I'd give it that much.
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>>36280026
>GO's system is heavily RNG based that you can barely influence
Objectively wrong. Look up the mechanics before you spew out bullshit. It's far more involed and skill-based and there's a lot you can do to modify the catch rate. It's subjective whether or not you find one system easier than the other, but GO's catching mechanics require more skill from the player.
Inflicting a status is not "hard". You just need to have a move that inflicts a status. And even then, it's not really a requirment most of the time.

>>36280053
Gen 1 is such a mess I'd be surprised if this wasn't harder based on movesets alone.
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>>36280026
>It required you to think about how to reduce a Pokemon's HP and status without fainting it.

You mean attacking it and using thunderwave? LOL
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>>36279938
Holy shit go back and read the original comment and see the context. Then come back and apologise for being an illiterate fucking dumbass.
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>>36278811
Idiot, he only has that Raichu in Yellow!
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>>36280316
still better than simply throwing a pokeball at legendary who has highter capture rate than the core game anyway.
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Because ground-types are so hard to come by aren't they
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>>36278803
Turn off EXP share = by far hardest Kanto journey ever

You're welcome.
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>>36278841
>just a fucking magnemite and voltorb
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>>36280465
>he thinks you can turn off the exp share
Based retard
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>>36280465
>he thinks he can turn it off now
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>>36280465
You can't turn it off.
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>>36279771
Go catching is literally just Safari Zone with touch control, but you have a way laxer ball limit, no step limit and Pokémon don't run away as often, so it's even more casual than SZ, which was already more casual than regular catching. Anyone that says otherwise has never played a pokémon game other than Go.
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>>36279321
>Yup this game is simply a tutorial
Literally every other mainline games were kid-friendly and enjoyed by kids everywhere
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>>36278795

Maybe there will be more games after the main story, then you have to adjust the level curve
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>>36280448
>spam bulldoze
>win
god why are gyms so fucking bad
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>>36280540
they need to kill monotypes already
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>>36280557
Or at least give gym leaders dual types that counter their common weaknesses, like Emolga in BW, or fast pokémon with coverage moves to fuck over their weaknesses.
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>>36280486
>>36280489
>>36280501
source
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>>36280581
the demo
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>>36278795
Wow, it's fucking nothing.
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>>36278811
OP BTFO
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>>36278795
>2 level difference

WOW AMAZING! I'M SURE PIKACHU AND EEVEE WILL LEARN DIG NATURALLY AT THAT POINT SINCE DOUBLE KICK WILL SURELY TAKE CARE OF MAGNEMITE
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>>36278854
C'è qualcosa di poetico nel leggere frasi nella mia lingua in questo tugurio. Comunque concordo. Sto gioco è una patacca assurda.
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>>36280861
oh yeah that's right they learn dig
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So who's going to buy the game even if it is shit? Because I know everyone on this board will, myself included. I skipped USUM and this game looks worse.
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>>36280581
Every mon in your team gets an evenly distributed share of exp gained through catching mons. I mean, there are no wild battles. That's all there is to it. Battling yields less exp than catching.
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>>36278795
Level cap of third gym leaders in past games:
- Whitney: Level 19/20
- Wattson: Level 23
- Maylene: Level 30/32
- Burgh: Level 23-26
- Korrina: Level 32
- Kiawe's trial (technically not a gym but takes place at the same time as a third gym would): Level 22

If this is strictly level, Level 26 Raichu with two additional Pokemon is not that bad. Beats out most of the other third gyms at this point.
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>>36280486
>>36280489
>>36280501
Source?
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Should be Alolan-Raichu with Choice Specs, Thunder, Surf, Dazzling Gleam and Grass Knot on it's moveset desu
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>>36278811
I love how surge shows off his tight ass.
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>>36278795
Are those 2D sprites in the background? Lmao.
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>>36281553
Wait, Whitney was only 19/20?
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>>36278803
There's no pleasing you faggots.
I see why GF stopped trying.
See you in November.
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>>36281706
Miltank has better stats than most 3rd leader ace mons. She only has two Pokemon. Plus the entire fight is somewhat lopsided against and RNG based you especially in the remake.
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\>>36281706
Yes, but remember Johto was a very condensed region that lacked many trainer battles up until this point. Johto's final Gym Leader caps out at Level 40, which is usually the cap for sixth or seventh gym leaders in other games.
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>>36278795
>Picks up second joy con and sends out second pokemon
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>>36282145
E3 confirmed that you can only go solo against the gym leaders.
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>>36279331
It's been confirmed you can turn it off, like, ages ago. Don't make shit up.
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>he thinks a 2 level difference in either direction will actually make any meaningful difference in the end
This board is pathetic
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>>36279353
>muh KANTOO
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>>36278811
Just catch a lvl 29 dougtrio
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>>36280502
Wrong.
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>>36279408
But that still makes it harder than RS....
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>>36284758
Actually, it really doesn't.
A significant amount of Hoenn Pokemon suffered from being created before the Physical/Special split.
Also, with ORAS, there are far more moves, including coverage, learned by level up as well as TMs and getting EXP for capturing Pokemon.
If you're playing with the EXP share on, it's even worse.
It doesn't make it harder at all.
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>>36281553
Based Gen 4.
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>>36280471
They’re literally the only other electric types besides Jolteon
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>>36278795
It's easy to be underleveled in Let's Go.
Only brainlets who catch 100 pidgeys will have to worry about steamrolling.
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>>36278795
what the fuck? I dont remember LT having his Raichu at 24 in Yellow, I remember it being like 30
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>>36278811
>mfw 1v1ing him with Pikachu like the anime
Pure kino .
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Isn't Diglett's Cave still nearby? It doesn't matter if its 1 or 3 Pokemon, he'll still get easily swept by a Dugtrio.
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>comparing this with past games that didn't have the new exp share
Brainlets, not even once.
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>>36284920
>not trading for the Mrmime and going for a full lightscreen strategy and sweep him with a fucking Wartortle
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>>36278795
Most pokemon trainers downed Pokemon in those games that were thirty levels higher, this is nothing.
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>>36278803
Kanto sucks for exp in general so this isnt actually bad. If it wasn't full of shitmons then I'd say it was
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inb4 Pikachu and Eevee learn bulldoze
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>>36284702
You probably have to catch one to enter the gym.
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>>36285045
Depressing, isn't it? Lazy game designers.
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>>36285064
Nigga the dugtrio thing is a staple in RBY. Dumbass
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>>36285074
I was talking shit about the idea of forcing people to catch certain pokemon to enter a gym. Dugtrio is a cute little badass, why would talk shit about it?
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>>36278893
I was about to offer you some help, but I see you can move the goal posts all on your own.
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>>36285064
>adding extra stuff to the game is lazy
It’s dumb and hand-holdy, but it’s clearly not lazy.
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>>36285265
They are not adding content, they are putting restrictions to the gameplay to make sure the players will do what they want them to do, so they don't have to think about multiple scenarios. That is clearly lazy
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>>36285275
I won't call that lazy. Stupid, sure, but not lazy. "Lazy" would imply adding nothing at all, but maybe the change in graphics.
The fact they're adding and changing things imply some work is being done, just not in a way that would please older players.
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>>36285275
Perhaps look up the definition of lazy before using the word. They did ADDITIONAL WORK to add the restrictions in. There is no other work they would do without those restrictions, there are not “multiple scenarios”.
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>>36284850
considering all the trainers before surge, nah i doubt it
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>>36278795
Why the nerfs?
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>>36284844
Electabuzz
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I don’t really get why people keep freaking out over every little level difference. We don’t know exactly what pokemon at which levels will be fought between each place, nor do we know for sure how experience works in this game. There are plenty of other things about the game to shit on.
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>>36279353
>has never played the original games




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