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>an experience shrine and oblivion knights episode
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Reminder that Diablo 2 is not retro.
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>>3971478
what if it was on the dreamcast?
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>>3971478
Will it be retro next year?
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I love bitch slapping people as the sorc in D1
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>>3971482
That is D2, not Diablo 2.

>>3971483
Not unless they revamp the rules which isn't going to happen.
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>>3971509
>tfw fired because your boss saw someone post d2 on a retro videogame board
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>Get Venom as Assassin
>One shot all non-boss enemies

Also, how do I go about building a martial arts assassin for hell difficulty? Should I just get phoenix strike or get all the individual elemental attacks? I don't really want to go traps again since I've already done it.

Should I do that weird Passion build instead so I can use Zeal?
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>>3971764
kicksin or go home
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>>3971764
t i g e r s t r i k e
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Bored out of my mind and don't know what to do. Haven't gotten a new usable unique, or a decent rune in weeks.
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Should I reroll grand charms that dropped in Chaos Sanctuary or just the Baal ones? Is there any plus side other than high life mods from Baal?
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1.14 released and hard disk crashed since I last played this. Trying version hack.

I am writing a follow/team script from scratch. Or at least, just a modest amount of theft from kolton-senpai. If this works, team players are such a great way to play d2. If it gets me banned from the realm I think I will just LAN it.
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>>3971478
How about you kill yourself, child molester?
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>>3974070
You first, horse fucker.
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>>3974118
>>3974070
What is this meme. You're using words that literally have nothing to do with the rest of the conversation
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Does /vr/ have a Diablo II server? I wouldn't mind playing again.
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>>3974147
no
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>>3974162
I'll toss up a vanilla server here in a bit.
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>>3974180
>vanilla

No thanks.
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>>3974187
What mods do you want?
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70.119.108.78
Should be up and running. I'll attempt to leave it up, but I don't have a UPS. Assuming the mods don't easy mode anything, I'm willing to install some upon request.
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The OST and some imagination helps the game feel more horrifying. I reflect and some characters seem silly to be scared at, such as the Hell Knight and the Butcher.
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>>3974190
>>3974279
Why don't you just make a blizzlike LoD server like /v/net was?
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>>3975831
that would take way too much effort for something that's probably going to be used by maybe two or three out of the five people that still lurk these threads
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>>3975840
Is it that much harder to make than a vanilla server? Why make a vanilla server for even less people then?
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>kill hell Andariel
>drops only one grand charm

Epic.
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>>3975831
No point anyway when the real D2 servers are resetting later this month.
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Post ladder reset strategies. Fuck it's gonna be so hard to get all the items and runes you need just for a basic build.
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>>3971509
>That is D2, not Diablo 2.
im sorry what
I dont understand
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>>3976558
He's being a cutesy tootsie roll, there is an actual game called "D2" for Dreamcast therefore passing for retro.
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>>3976232
>kill mephisto
>drop bolts
every fucking time
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>>3976571
I farmed hell meph and andariel for hours today, and didn't get a single usable item. Then I go on some forum to check out a build guide, and some faggot bitch talking about how he farms nm meph and andy for a day until he gets full tal's set. I'm so mad.
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>>3976580
bullshit of course; the earliest you can drop tal's armor is Corpsefire (den of evil zombie boss) in hell

FWIW hell meph and andy are not particularly good for useable items. use nm andy for the best chance at sojs and lvl 85 areas in hell for all the best shit.

85 Pit Level 1
85 Pit Level 2
85 Mausoleum
85 Maggot Lair Level 3
85 Ancient Tunnels
85 Sewers Level 2 (Kurast)
85 Forgotten Temple
85 Ruined Fane
85 Disused Reliquary
85 River of Flame
85 Chaos Sanctuary
85 The Worldstone Keep Level 1
85 The Worldstone Keep Level 2
85 The Worldstone Keep Level 3
85 Throne of Destruction
85 The Worldstone Chamber
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>>3977763
Thanks, but I forgot to quest bug my nm andy, and I'm too weak still to efficiently farm most of those areas.
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Where do people get resistances for hell farming, if they farm with 3 ptopaz helmets, wealth, and MF rings/amulets? You just die like a bitch.
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>>3978269
just don't get hit.
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>>3971478
Going by our rules here, that's not true though. It was released in 2000, but our rules don't go by game release dates, they go by hardware.

And because it's possible to run Diablo 2 on hardware from 1999 it makes it retro according to this boards rules.

It's the same as why Pier Solar or Cave Story Genesis are okay for discussion here. It doesn't matter when a game was made. All that matters is what hardware it runs on.
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>>3978516
>just don't get hit
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>>3978540
Muh hardware
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>>3978564
Hey I think it's utterly retarded, but that's how the rules here work.
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>kill hell andariel
>drops 4 essences

Fuck off, give me a usable unique holy shit. Fucking FOUR (4) essences, I've never seen this shit before.
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>>3978269
be a paladin or don't get hit
g AS
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>>3978815
>g AS

What does this mean?
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>>3978818
i was cleaning sauce from my keyboard as i was typing the reply and didn't delete it.

Yes I'm a disgusting monster
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>>3978206
>>3978269
some of the 85 areas have peculiarities.

like there are ONLY lite-immunes in the mausoleum, there are never any cold immunes in the ancient tunnels, if I remember right

definitely gear for fighting, not mf, regardless.
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Two questions. Can I pirate Diablo 2, and can it be played online? Blizz fucked up my account for unusual activity multiple times and this fifth time is the last straw.
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>>3978848
Yes.
No, if pirated.
D2 uses old B.Net anyway. It's completely separate from new B.Net.
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>>3978858
Well, let me clarify.
You COULD play online, but not on Battle Net. Chances are the CD Key that gets generated by whatever keygen you use will already be banned.
You could play online via other means I suppose.
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>>3978825
Lmao I thought it was one of those abbreviations. I keep browsing d2jsp and can't figure out what anyone is saying in the trade section.
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>>3978863
Ah well.
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>>3978269
charms and shield I guess...

you don't need poison res. replace some slots such as helmet, e.g. shako, and put alibaba to compensate for all res-mf

ptopaz socketed items, wealth, and mf gear is shit, so you can combine.

my mf gear is topaz shako - skullder - chance guards - alibaba - nagelrings - gheed - 10x 7%mf sc = 450+ MF which is ok.

playing as summoner however, so that means gear is optional.
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>>3979265
I only have poorly rolled gheeds and a nagel ring out of all those.
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>>3971470
>playing the game on easy mode
Embarrassing.
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>>3979270
then farm the pit. you can farm the pit naked and get everything.

first rule is to have fun, not search for items. game can literally read your mind and if it knows you're searching for that unique shako it will never drop it whilst I got my fourth piece in two weeks. plus as long as you intentionally search for something, every run where it doesn't drops makes game exponentially more boring and the wait for ist rune longer. be aware!
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whose bright idea it was to create such retarded kurast docks design?

pic related would be optimal solution.

every other town is so better organized than this shit. and the rest of the act is also shit, worst area in the game.
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>>3979270
Also, start low and gradually increase.

3ptopaz helm, wealth and mf amulets rings is roughly 300% if they're perfect, if they're not, maybe 200%. You can start with 100%, find some items like shako, make rhyme, etc, and build up to 300-500 which is optimal for fast farming-survival.

That's how I usually do it, and it pays off soon enough. I've got my gear after 200 Pit/CS/Baal runs that's around 20 hours of farming.
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>>3980828
>>3980818
I've scrapped around 180% mf, if I swap other items for more mf, I get one shotted just by teleporting around. My runs consist of countess, pit, andy, meph, and I haven't gotten jack shit in 3 days.

I can't imagine how I'm gonna gear up once the ladder resets. Will be 10 times harder. At least I was lucky to get early mage fists before clearing nightmare this time.
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>Don't have internet at the moment
>Started playing Diablo 2 with PlugY to get the shared stash
>Still missing two pieces of Tals after over a month of farming

I mean I don't play everyday, but online my luck was much better, especially with being able to use d2jsp to fill my characters out. I feel like if I do another run I'm going to decapitate myself.
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>>3981402
>use d2jsp

How do you start out as a new guy with 0 fg? I literally can't find anyone to trade anything, and even high runes are selling for 0.5 fg right now.
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What do you guys do to have fun? I'm considering playing hardcore but idk if it will really change anything.

Having fun is becoming rather difficult for me these days :(
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>>3981669
also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XheJnmLAwhk
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>>3981669
Nothing. Game isn't fun anymore, it's been 17 years. It's only fun with friends, which I don't have, nor do we have /v/net anymore.
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>>3981402
I should get back into playing.
I never actually played it until a few years ago, but I got to act 5 (I think it's 5. the act added by the expansion) and just kinda quit.
Played a Barb.
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>>3981691
Act V which difficulty?
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>>3981703
Just normal. I'm a pleb.
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>>3981707
You didn't even get past the tutorial basically. Game has way more to offer.
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>>3974279
Me here. The -server option is bugged and people say I need d2server.dll file for starting up this way. I can't script restarts without this option. I realize the ladder restarts May 27th. Are there any other decent servers for regular /vr/ usage?
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>>3981742
Isn't there an option to host a game for single player characters over TCP/IP?

I've never used it and I don't have the game currently so I can't see for myself. Seems like it would suffice for some random games.
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>>3981765
That isn't the issue. Once you wipe out the bosses, they don't respawn. You would want to restart the server several times a day. I refuse to do that manually. Had that option worked, I could kill the server and restart as a service. I'm on call so I have time to dick around with it unfortunately.
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>>3981781
Oh I see. Sorry can't help you there :/
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>>3981781
>>3981792
But at least that's not much of an issue if the host is playing.

Probably would be best to arrange something on discord if there was legitimate interest in playing together.
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if you don't want or can't play on bnet, just use gameranger
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>>3981803
>gameranger

Is this like a hamachi for hipsters?
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>>3981515
Its way easier at the start of a season. Basically at the start of the season I make a meteorb sorc and farm like crazy. I'm not going to say you'll definitely get things of value, but there's a lot that is pretty high value then. Even outside of that, there's always people looking for good dueling gear. Check out what sort of level brackets are popular and keep an eye out for anything at the end of that bracket with good stats for dueling.
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>>3981809

it works like hamachi but it has a server list, so you can look for games.
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>due to a bug in Hellfire, all spell effects that can be blockable, will be blocked if the check succeeds, regardless of resistances
>This can lead to frustration for many players, due to never being able to attack because of block locking.

What?
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>>3981669
I switched to hardcore exclusively like 8-10 years ago. It's not even for status, it really does change the way you play the game, approach every situation, and creates a lot of drama. Everytime a tp goes up is like a rag tag team trying to defuse a bomb. Everytime someone hits the PK switch, the entire game scrambles like a bunch of ants. The best thing is bad players and good players all die at some point. Doesn't matter if you think you have the entire game at the back of your head and you have played since 2000. The grim reaper is always lurking in your shadows waiting to fuck you in the ass raw. While you are racing up the ladder during a reset, it is actually intriguing to keep track of familiar names and slowly discover some of them turn grey on the rankings. And when you do die, it invokes the biggest amount of butthurt, again doesn't matter if you are a veteran. A very simple new game plus switch turns the game upside down and causes a spectrum of emotions, this game is truly GOAT. You have to try it, but only during ladder resets. In fact coming back to give it another shot promising yourself to not die is the main reason why you should crawl back to this game every 6 months. Once you go hardcore, you can't go back to regular because the original game is just facerolling everything because all you do is grind and get too powerful too quickly. Hardcore makes it about survival where you pay attention to every aspect of the game again.
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>>3981865
It means that the blocking interrupts your attack animation, effectively stun-locking you
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>>3971478
Why not?
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>>3978848
there is a D2 group on facebook i posted a list of 3000 usable keys there check it out.
Its the biggest d2 group easy to find.
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>>3981669
Another webm to remind you to stay awake in hardcore
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>>3978848
Just recover your account one more time, and this time save the D2 installers and your keys.
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>>3981919
exactly! this is what ive been telling everyone for years who hasnt tried hardcore mode. Its soo much more fun once you get better at it. It makes you really pay attention to your build and you become very aware of things, sure youll have a few close calls that will leave your heart pounding but thats what makes it fun
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>>3982373
i've had those souls kill a 80+ light res with absorption hammerdin before, and they kill just about everything else in one shot if you're not res capped. you got pretty lucky there unless you have end game hp.
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>>3982918
I think that's not souls but worldstone keep idle attack. when you idle there for some time, the game attacks you.

souls are easily negated with tgod's vigor and max res, unless you come at multishot extrafast conviction aura motherfucker
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>>3983037
>guys come on help with throne tp is 1
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If this doesn't convince you to play hardcore then your gay
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>>3983094
Same with this
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>>3983095
and this
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>>3983101
this too
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>>3983104
drama filled
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>>3983106
1/2
hardcore will also occasionally bring you
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>>3983109
2/2
...some laughs
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>>3983110
So basically I think you should all come play hardcore on the May reset if you don't play hardcore already
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>>3983113
Good night /diablo/
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Guess I'm a fag since I'm just not seeing it.
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>>3983132
I see the autismo sat his 3 day punishment.
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tfw blizzard anon died
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post favorite class/build
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>>3984125
whirlybarb
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>>3984125
>been playing on and off since ~2003
>only ever played sorc
>only nova, cl, or fireball/orb builds

It feels like I haven't experienced the majority of the game in a way.
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>>3984168
Go build a trap/claw assasin right now.
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I want to play Hardcore with you guys for the reset.

I would want to compliment the group, but also do a role I'm comfortable with.

Hammerdin
Ele Druid
Bone or Skele necro
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>>3984170
Too expensive, and the playstyle is shit. I wanted to try a smiter, but don't have the gear either.
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>>3984202
amazon to poke cows to death in hell
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>>3984252
Why am I getting an answer to a question I never asked?
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>>3984125
always play warrior

sorceror and rogue are ezmode crutches for low-dog pleb scrubs
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Stop shitting up the thread you fucking autismal retards.
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>>3978540
When did Gameboy Advance become allowed here? I run that on hardware from 1999 or earlier all the time using emulators. Thanks for the tip. Making threads now.
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Thoughts on hybrid amazons?
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>>3984446
Disgusting.
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>>3984457
Why?
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>>3984198
There's probably not enough people to have a full party consistently and I probably would want to casually drop in and out throughout the day so I think I'll stick to pubbing everything. I race up the ladder so I don't want to walk everything, although I'm not saying I would rush everything.
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>>3983113
What day is the reset?
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>>3984810
Not sure but typicall May 2X and November 2X
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>>3984810
>>3984815
You can also keep an eye on https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=73916272&f=21
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>>3984815
Thanks anonsan.
Last time I dropped off around Act3 of NM as a hammerdin. was doing 3k dmg after a respec but I got bored of it. Might do a skele/curse necro with a bit of poison if I can gear for it.
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What are your ladder reset strategies? Mine is:

>sorc
>fireball/blizz, respec later on to fireball/orb
>try and get an early leaf, stealth, then lore, rhyme, and smoke
>3 ptopaz helm if I can get one
>clear all difficulties solo
>then look for trades and ubers
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First time playing Diablo and I fucking love it. I started like three days ago.

r8 m8 pl8
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>>3985914
>80 dex
how?

I haven't played in at least 10+ years

PS Rogue sucks, Sorc or Knight all the way, faggot.
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>>3985947
Sorc is horribly crippled by a shitty interface and Warrior requires specialized equipment. Rogue is the best for a new player.
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>>3985954
>shitty interface
that doesn't matter when you're spamming Fireball

>specialized equipment
heavy armor and strong weapons is not what I consider specialized

better than the ol' backpedal until I run out of room shooting this guy for 8 minutes, thank god they didn't include arrows in this game at least
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>>3985959
The warrior becomes fucking hard lategame when you have a dozen paladins slamming onto you, and mages need to swap to the shield and teleport in a regular basis. It's not what I'd advise to a new player.
Remember that in this game, when you are hit you are reset to the center of the hex you were standing at. Getting stunlocked is a constant danger for the warrior.
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>>3985954
>Sorc is horribly crippled

Every fiber of my being wants to know how any person could be this obtuse.
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>>3985947
There is a lot more to gearing and playing a Rogue than a Sorcerer, and the class is very versatile. Have you never encountered 400% ToHit/unhittable melee rogues? The choice between whether you emphasize +life (and thus Healing) or +mana (and thus +Mana Shield) also has some playstyle connotations. Fire Wall affects enemy AI even if they're Fire immune; it and Stone Curse are useful for making bottlenecks .Rogue has decent casting speed so they can afford to use heavy utility in their style of conducting combat, or even go poor man's mage for whatever reason.

Sorcerer is a game of mana management early on and then you just fly around, Fireballing and Chain Lightning everything in your path and spamming Teleport. There is not much finesse, but the all-immune Hell enemies are either Teleported past or tediously worked on with a Golem/Stone Curse. Never have I felt the need, as a Sorc, to leave some barrels un-popped to form a better blockade or chokepoint; the mobility and AoE just make those cool tactical choices completely unnecessary.

Warrior is my favourite class, but mostly because of the challenge. They don't need "specialized" gear, just to use a shield (2h warrior is a challenge of its own) and learn proper footwork and even spell management. You need to pass an AC and resist threshold to have a chance in hell, but Warrior is always perfectly playable.
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anyone online?
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>>3986708
hi
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Suffered through 33 levels of Assassin and Necromancer and decided to give the Barbarian a try

and WOW fuck this bullshit overpowered-ass class
>537 HP at level 20 with only 67 VIT
>move and attack at 140% speed and deal 140% damage with 8 stacks of Frenzy

who decided that this class was balanced?
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>>3986984
hello friend
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>>3986997

>thinks barb is OP and necro isn't

wew lad
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>>3987306
necromancer fucking sucks until you get Blood Ritual, and still isn't very good until you have Corpse Explosion and at least 8 skeletons. even then, champion and boss packs can still tear apart an entire skeleton army effortlessly, especially if it's something like a knight boss pack.

barb is overpowered from the start of the game, and by the looks of it, remains overpowered forever. the only things that are really annoying for a barb are mage and succubi boss packs, and that's just because they constantly run away.
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>>3987317

you have much to learn my son
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>>3986997
>assassin
>necromancer
>barbarian
what shitty mod is this?
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>>3981919
Second boss keeps raping me to do hc

I defeat it eventually but never in my first try (I have more chance defeating Mephisto and Diablo on my first try.)
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>>3987453
http://diablo1.ovh.org/hd/
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>>3988920
>there will never be a clean Diablo modern patch that unlocks resolution, aspect ratio, framerate, windowed mode, raw mouse input, OpenGL without being quirky and adding fan mod bullshit
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>>3988939
>Fan mod bullshit
It's all cut content you silly.
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>>3988939
>being quirky and adding fan mod bullshit
How so?
The unique items are mostly the same. Rares and Sets are just ported in from D2. All the new quests are just reintroduced from the D1 alpha and beta. The new classes are either ported in from Hellfire (in the case of the Assassin and Barbarian) or D2 (in the case of the Necromancer). All the new spells are either from Hellfire or D2.

There really isn't that much actually "new" stuff. It's just high-res D1 with a few extra features added in from Hellfire and D2.
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>>3988947
I'm seeing all kinds of not cut content in that picture.
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>>3989002
It improves the interface a lot, yes. What's bad about that?
Just don't go to the tabs they added if you don't care about their info.
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>>3989005
>improves
looks like horse shit
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>>3989007
The other options were either scaling the objects at a diferent pixel ratio from the rest of the game (Bad idea, they'll look out of place) or having a shit ton of space with nothing but the stone texture. Making the inventory/stat tabs into floating windows was the smart choice.
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>>3989012
They coulda did a better job making it not look like ass.
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>>3989017
How so?

Do you have any actual, specific complaints, or are you just memeing?
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>>3989017
Do give me examples of how, since you are obviously an expert in game interfaces.
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>>3971478
>>3978540

reminder that D2 is retro
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>>3989001
Sounds a lot like a fan mod

At least Quake fans have no issue drawing a line between vanilla and other variations, come to think of it
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>>3989029
Fan mod... because it was created by a fan?
Literally every mod for every game ever is a fan mod by that logic.

There's no fan-made original content in it though. All of the new features and content in D1HD are either taken from D1 alpha and beta content, Hellfire content, or D2 content.
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>>3989036
Don't get cute with the interpretation of fan mod. It looks like shit and destroys the integrity of the game unless the author himself considers it as something along the lines of a "fan" mod. Clearly I'm not alone on this so I'm not some kind of outlier. The name Belzebub might as well be synonymous with FakeFactory Cinematic Mod. I have no issue with people who choose to play it but everytime you hear about Belzebub recommendations it's been described as "dude it's Diablo but fixed up for modern operating systems". Umm... no.
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>>3989062
>the interpretation of fan mod
nigga what other fuckin interpretation of "fan mod" is there. you're the one saying this meme-themed buzzword and expecting everyone else to know your specific personal arbitrary definition of it
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>>3989064
>Oh it's a fan mod but it has no fan content
Sounds like you're the one who has some kind of specific persona arbitrary definition.
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>>3989090
you're the only one actually calling it a fan mod my dude

YOU were the one that tried to bring that meme-themed terminology into this, my bledrin, my jai rasta
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Someone posted this Diablo II mod on another thread:
https://github.com/fearedbliss/Diablo-II--Vanilla-Frosting

Does anyone have a better mod that allows for a massive storage and just makes things interesting again?
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>>3983113
already waiting for it. I'm so glad people still play this game. I've been playing since beta and still love it. Just came back from a 6 year break tho
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>>3990287
PlugY for storage. Mediam XL is a overhall mod but I hated what it did to the classes. most people like it though.
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>>3991153
PlugY for 1.14 fucking when
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>>3971478
>>3978540
>>3989028

SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS

CPU: Diablo II requires a Pentium-compatible 233 MHz processor or better.

Memory: 32 MB of RAM is required for Single Player mode. 64 MB of RAM is required for Multiplayer mode. Open Battle.net game Creators and TCP/IP game Hosts: 128MB RAM recommended (256MB RAM in games with over 4 players).

Hard Drive Space: The Single Player installation requires 650 MB free space on your hard drive. The Multiplayer installation requires 950 MB free space on your hard drive. The Full installation requires 1.55 GB free space on your hard drive.

Video: Diablo II requires an SVGA video card and monitor capable of displaying 800 x 600 pixels at a color depth of at least 256 colors.

3D accelerators compatible with Glide or Direct3D are supported. Diablo II requires 8MB of texture RAM.

Sound: Diablo II requires a DirectX-compatible sound card. Diablo II supports sound cards with 3D positioning and environmental audio effects, like reverberation and occlusion. Be sure to configure your sound driver and position your speakers to get the optimum audio performance from your system.

Operating System: Diablo II is a Windows 95/98/2000/NT game that utilizes Microsoft DirectX. Diablo II will run under DirectX 6.1 or higher, but we recommend updating to DirectX version 7.0a. You may install DirectX 7.0a using the Diablo II Installer.

Windows 2000 and NT 4.0 do not require that you install Microsoft DirectX, as it is already part of the operating system.

If you have difficulty running Windows 95/98 after installing new Microsoft DirectX drivers, please contact Microsoft technical support at:
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>>3991480

never apparently. creator is AWOL for several years.
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>>3991528

Pentium 233 was released in 1997
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>>3991531
He updated it for 1.13d in january, you pillock.
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>>3991480
AFAIK 1.14 changes the directory structure, making most mod unusable. The only best option currently is vanilla diablo 2/LOD and 1.13d patch.
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>Reset has been pushed out due to issues during patch testing. 30th is still a maybe but 6th/13th June is the likely date
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>>3976571
>>3976232
>not backing up your save before killing each endboss for the first time
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>>3978848
>Diablo 2
>wanting to play online
>not wanting to play LAN with friends instead
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>>3971470
>d2
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If I wanted rares and necros and assassins and all the rest of the extra scope I would play D2. Which I usually do.

If not, there's unmodded Diablo, simple and scary- I'm not really seeing the point of added content to make it a pale echo of D2.
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>>3992682
The assassin in D1HD is almost nothing like the assassin in D2. If anything, it's similar to the Bard from Hellfire
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strength
enough for your gear

dexterity
enough for your gear

vitality
everything else

energy
energy?
energy?????????????????????????????
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>>3978584
no it's not dumbass, learn to read

>This board is for the discussion of classic, or "retro" games. Retro gaming means consoles, computer games, arcade games (including pinball) and any other forms of video games on platforms launched in 1999 and earlier. With the release of the 8th generation of consoles, the Sega Dreamcast will now be considered "retro", though the remainder of the sixth generation (Xbox, PS2, GameCube) will not.


>computer games launched in 1999 and earlier
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>>3971470
Not retro, mods need to prune this shit
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>>3991153
What I like about Median XL is the insane variety of viable builds. In vanillia D2 there's only so much you can do to a character to make it work past Normal difficulty, and half of the spells simply suck. In Median all the skills have some utility at the cost of characters losing their identity. I mean stuff like summoner barbarian or builds that only use skills received from items are perfectly normal in Median.
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Back then I could choose between D2 and Nox. I chose Nox. I didn't play D2 until 2009 or so. I don't regret anything and would do it again.
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>>3993271
>I don't regret anything
>says as he comes to the Diablo thread to justify his remorse
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>>3980819
Oh, yes, the jungle nignogs that built Kurast would TOTALLY have the time to learn city-organization techniques in between getting raped by pygmy midgets.
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>>3992195
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>>3993271
You made the right choice. The single player campaigns in Nox are nothing special, but the multiplayer modes were amazing. It's a shame that some people missed out on it.
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looking to play Diablo 1 on my mac, anybody got any leads?
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it's official boys, reset is not this month
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reminder that 'reminder that D2 is not retro' is retro
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Is D1 retro?
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>>3994648
Why wouldn't it be?
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Hey the first game is supposed to have music right?
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>>3994873
yes
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>>3994879
well shit knew this was going to be harder than i thought
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>>3994873
>>3994879
>>3994881
nevermind grabbed that shit by the balls
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>>3994056
What, really? When is it then?
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>>3995085
soon
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>>3993042

energy: the eternal dump stat
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WHEN THE FUCK IS THE RESET FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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>>3993707
Something's wrong with my Blo Blo.
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>>3996768
soon
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>open diablo 2
>get bored within exactly 15 seconds
>close the game

I literally don't know what to do. Farming shit for gear is so boring.
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>>3993707
last one should've been ps1 co-op with buddy
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>>3999415
>diablo 1
>"i need to find good gear to kill these demons"

diablo 2
>"i need to kill these demons to find good gear so i can show off to my senpaitachi :D"
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why doesn't anyone farm worldstone keep levels?
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>>3999795
Literally nothing stops you from playing Diablo 2 the way you played Diablo 1.

That, and if you think that having your own King's Sword of Haste wasn't a great way to increase your e-penis on KALI/POL-1, you were delusional.

>>3999415
Don't farm, just move forward and clear dungeons.
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>>3999795
>diablo 1
>no fun builds that require very specific gear
>diablo 2
>fun builds that require very specific gear
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>>4000598
>move forward

Forward to where? I've cleared the whole game. What dungeons are you talking about?
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What's the /vr/ approved way of playing D1?
I played a shit-ton of D2 but never really spent a lot of time with diablo 1.
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>>4000991
Double click the exe and proceed to play the game.
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>>4001004
are the mods all shit?
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>>4001006
Good god, why would you want to play with mods?
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>>4001006
There's this one guy who memes about muh fan content, but belzebub's a good way to play.
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>>4001006
They are, but you can get banned for saying this.
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>>4001035
looks good, ty

>>4001029
idunno man, it's old as fuck. there's bound to be some resolution mods at least.
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>>4001083
kys desu senpai
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>>4001006
There aren't that many mods out there. Belzebub restores some of the cut content and brings some quality of life features, but has the unfortunate side effect of making it more in line with Diablo 2.

I like Diablo 1 because every magic item you find is useful and you don't have to grind to win. You wade through a whole bunch of trash in Belzebub and there are a lot of times that your numbers just aren't big enough so you have to go back and redo a bunch of floors.

I would recommend Belzebub, but only after you've completed Diablo 1 Vanilla. It's not even that long of a game, maybe 6 hours assuming it takes you 20 minutes to clear a floor.
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>>4001873
>and there are a lot of times that your numbers just aren't big enough so you have to go back and redo a bunch of floors
THIS

Having done full playthroughs of normal difficulty on two separate characters now, by far I can say that my biggest complaint is the absolute brick wall you hit when you get to dlvl 16. Both of my characters were ~clvl 26 when they got there, and had basically no problems clearing the prior 15 dlvls or any of the side areas. Then dlvl 16 whips and rapes and beats you raw with Blood Knight boss packs, Possessed Death Knight packs, Possessed Soul Burner packs, Advocate boss packs, Fanatic and Berserker Azure drake packs, Doomsayers, and all other manner of horrible overpowered bullshit that you can't fight in any reasonable capacity unless you back out and go grind the cathedral levels on Hell difficulty for gear and enough exp to reach clvl 32.
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>>4000598
I DO play Diablo 2 the way I played D1. I don't get the desire to farm. When I play it, I just keep going until I'm stuck. Generally this means Hell diff.
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Why are vendors shit?

Why can't I buy Druid and Necro items at vendors?

Why is Anni reusing Mephisto Soulstone graphic?

Why is Pandemonium Fortress the best town layout and why do all others (except Rogue Encamp) suck?

Why doesn't Act IV have more areas and waypoints?

Why is Hadriel useless?

What is Tyrael doing with Resurrection Gold?

Whose smart idea was to put starting point in Acts II and II so far from the shops and stash?

Whose smart idea was to put Cain so far away in Harrogath? I'll rather buy Identify Scrolls from Malah.

Anyone noticed the Barbarian in Harrogath is roasting a rabbit on a stick?

Why is Diamond graphic a rotated square?
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>>4003198
This is actually a really good post.
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>>4003204
>>4003198
>Almost exactly a minute between posts
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>>4003228
>being paranoid
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>>4003235
>being a samefag
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>>4003301
>being a newfag
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We can all agree that Diablo 2 is the DK64 of ARPGs, yes?
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>>4003386
what did he mean by this
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>>4003872
I think he's saying that D2 is a bad ARPG, because DK64 is usually brought up when people talk about what's wrong with Collectathons.
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>>4003198
>why is diamond a rotated square

Lulz
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>>4003301
>having no IP log proof
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Stay awhile, and listen!
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>>4000991
Only hardcore so you can experience the bugged chest insta death in catacombs :^)
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>>4005525
>ironman
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>>4003198
>Why are vendors shit?
Defeats the purpose of murdering everything you come across for loot if you can buy good stuff. Also, if they townsfolk had good equipment, they'd be able to defend themselves and wouldn't have to ask your ass for help.

>Why can't I buy Druid and Necro items at vendors?
Vendors don't cater to bestiality and necrophilia fetishists.

>Why is Anni reusing Mephisto Soulstone graphic?
Laziness, mostly.

>Why is Pandemonium Fortress the best town layout and why do all others (except Rogue Encamp) suck?
Fuck you I like Harrogath.

>Why doesn't Act IV have more areas and waypoints?
Blizzard could only design so much that was covered in ash, lava, or on fire... so things were a bit limited.

>Why is Hadriel useless?
All angels are useless. Haven't you seen them getting their asses kicked in D3?

>What is Tyrael doing with Resurrection Gold?
Renting Akara and Charsi for a few hours.

>Whose smart idea was to put starting point in Acts II and II so far from the shops and stash?
Dunno, but I feel your pain. Log out in any other act.

>Whose smart idea was to put Cain so far away in Harrogath? I'll rather buy Identify Scrolls from Malah.
Aye, is also a bitch.

>Anyone noticed the Barbarian in Harrogath is roasting a rabbit on a stick?
Barbs gotta eat, man.

>Why is Diamond graphic a rotated square?
Easier than compressing a circle.
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>>4005539
>renting Charsi

Take that back faggot, or die.
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Perspective ON or OFF?
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>>4005539
>Tyrael
>not homosexual
wew lad
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>pindle dropped a rare balrog skin
>dropped several rare jewels
I hate you, son of a bitch. Give me something good. Leviathan is not enough.
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>>4005919
If Diablo 3's to be believed, Tyrael's actually a black nigger.
Black niggers are far less likely to be fags than anyone else.
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>>4006065
>black nigger
As opposed to a caucasian nigger?
Or a japanese nigger?
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>>4006079
Yes
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Any of you lads up for some Diablo 1 HD co-op?
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>>4006120
>mods
disgusting
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So I heard it's actually not possible to beat Diablo 1 as a Warrior.
Is it true?
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>>4006134
That's not even remotely true
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>>4006120
>that hud
>that quest marker
JUST
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ladder resets on the 30th lads. prepare your anus
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>>4006134
you probably won't kill him accidentally, though, like you can with sorcs
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>>4006248
RIP job hunt
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>>4006134
I only play Diablo 1 as the warrior and have beaten it many times on single player without needing to refresh the maps to get other loot.

Not to say the lower levels don't get more tedious with everything running away and teleporting away from you.
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>>4006120
Commit sudoku.
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>>4006582
yeh okay bledrin
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Just reinstalled after not playing forever. Just got to Act 2. I've been runs on every startup, then continuing on to collect more waypoints.

Tristrim
Countess
Pit
Andarel
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new Median XL in less than a week

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KC1Y11BR0ko
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>>4004053
except Diablo 2 is still the best thing out there right now

many try to copy over the formula and fall short in one thing or two. mostly limiting player interaction to absolute minimum preventing any emergent gameplay (even Diablo 3 failed at this)
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1.14 PLUGY W H E N
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Lets talk about Diablo's soundtrack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQCg-uHOrZk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPQPJwVX-60
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>>3982312
can you link it?
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>>4006614
I absolutely agree.
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>>4006120
How do you do multiplayer with Tchernobog?
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>>4006671
I love the main menu music. Very creepy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXUcwprvldc
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>mfw horned demon for the first time
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>>4007521
TCP/IP
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>>4007706
>mfw gold viper for the first time
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>>3971582

I don't get it.
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>>4007769
It's a jew joke.
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>>3981402
>>3981515
>>3981691

do you guys need fg? I have almost 17k.

I stopped playing diablo 2 years ago but I still visit the site every year for sports betting.

Send me a pm, my name is jadeoshbogosh
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>>3981919

what you described is why i play path of exile
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>>3984168

I played every single possible endgame viable paladin build

and was on the melee ladder for 1v1 with a conc barb

and I still prefer just playign frozen orb sorc or 200fcr fireball sorc :^)^^)^ :)^: ^)

also

>>3981919
>>3982373
>>3983089
>>3983094
>>3983095
>>3983101
>>3983104
>>3983106
>>3983109
>>3983110
>>3983113
>>3983116


why thefuck are you running the game with uncapped framerate? trying to burn up your GPU retard?
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>>4006614
cough Path of Exile cough
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>>4007787
I think I do limit my fps to my refresh but not for every previous season. Not all games burn your gpu if your framerate is uncapped, it's just a 2D glide game.
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>>4007787
>Diablo 2
>burning up anyone's GPU, ever

lmao
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>>4007801
Games from this era will usually use ALL OF THE CPU AND GPU if left uncapped. I don't think it'll burn the GPU, but understand why someone might be concerned.
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>>4007794
PoE is garbage and nothing like Diablo 2.
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>>4007775
Is this real? I'm a noob, but according to my memory, begging for fg is bannable. Can't tell if I'm being baited to get banned honestly.
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>>4006650
downgrade to 1.13c you double nigger
it's not like you can use it in battle.net
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>>4007794
*unplugs ethernet cord* how about now
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>>4006650
I hope you know 1.14 was just a minor bug fix AND broke glide wrapper. Stop wanting 1.14 you little bitch.
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Is it true that if you want to "target" an occy drop, you should do nigthmare mephisto?
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>>4005539
>wouldn't have to ask your ass for help

if those fucking merchant kikes really wanted my help, they would give me weapons and armor for free. oh, what's that? you're saving the world and literally our souls? sorry, 20k gold for sword of repair 1 in 5 seconds

>vendors don't cater to bestiality and necrophilia fetishists

not an argument

>i like harrogath

it's comfy but vendors are too far away. although ladder fixed cain

>blizzard could only design so much that was covered in ash, lava, or on fire... so things were a bit limited

bullshit excuse, there are millions of ideas of what to do with hell area. condor was just lazy
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if you have no fg, you could probably still sell your holepunches and bumps, don't insist on payment up front but do try to sell to people who have a lot of fg or very old account (so they would be taking a bigger risk scamming your poor ass)
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>>4008217
But I used all mine already.
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I've been playing D2 for god knows how long and I never knew Cain identifies your items for free forever if you rescue him on that difficulty. I thought it was a one time deed so I never wanted to use it.
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>>4008303
20 minutes isn't really that long.
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>>4008365
Nah I played since 2000, I always thought Cain's reward was identify all your items for free just one time as with most rewards. I just use scrolls on all my shit before even going back to town.
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What server are you guys on?
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>>4008383
Stop lying.
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since you guys are all retards who know nothing about the game, here's how to farcast without a mod:
>>>/wsg/1697809
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>>4005539
>Defeats the purpose of murdering everything you come across for loot if you can buy good stuff. Also, if they townsfolk had good equipment, they'd be able to defend themselves and wouldn't have to ask your ass for help.

I mean, vendors do have a purpose. Drognan in Act 2 Normal sells the best socketables in the game for spellcasters, with great scepters and staves to make runewords in, gamblers can often give you higher-tier weapons and armor before anyone else (I always check Elzix obsessively for better armor, he once gave me a rare Plate Mail with decent mods when I was simply expecting, well, any trash Plate Mail), Anya in Act 5 is a good source of boots and claws and overall gambling can get you very good results.
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>>4007775
This is a scam.
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>>4010079
do you have a single fact to back that up
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>>4010129
One: That's terror.
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>>4010129
He didn't send fg.
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>>4008303
Impossible. You're required to talk to Cain afterwards, and there is a 100% chance you had unidentified items while you were talking to him. You must've seen identify items option. I don't buy it.
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>>4010386
That's what I said though. I thought it was a one time reward so I always never used it in hopes to save it just like Charsi's imbue. I didn't know Cain will identify your inventory as a permanent service. I think the reason why it made me think this way was because of multiplayer when I get into a random game where Cain wasn't rescued properly and he would charge me 100g, making me believe that the free service was a one time deed.
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Is there a list somewhere of the best unique items? I'm scared of throwing some end game 10/10 item away, because I don't know what use it has.
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>>4010461

try one of the innumerable guides and wikis dedicated to every facet of this almost 2 decade old game?
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>a monarch finally drops
>it's magic

Thanks a lot game.
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>>4010561
Such as? I can't find a single one.
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>>4010570
Ok, and? No such guide.
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>>4010574

honestly can't tell if you're trolling or are genuinely looking for a "top 10 rarest items in diablo 2" list. if the latter is the case, here you go

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XT3bl9_T9GY
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>>4010575
>>4010578
Are you guys illiterate? I'm looking for a bis guide of items that are worth keeping.
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>>4010585
And how am I supposed to know what items are worth keeping for classes I don't play, or builds I've never heard of?
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>>4010594
By playing the game.
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>>4010582

that's very vague, but i'd say anything that's an elite level unique is "worth keeping", or at least worth storing on a mule.

other things worth keeping include high level runes, perfect gems, and unique jewels and charms since they take up little space.

there are also certain white items that are highly valued for being good items to socket with powerful runewords, but that's too advanced of a subject to go into in one post
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>>4010604
>>4010601
I'm literally asking for a guide, stop being retarded. Why would I go through the trouble of testing all that shit, doing calculations, and looking through lists and spreadsheets, if I can just look at a guide. If you don't have a guide, then don't reply with shitposting.

>>4010603
Thanks, but that's common sense. I was hoping there would be a big guide of the best items and their substitutes for each class, considering how old the game is.
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>>4010613

best items for a class really depends on the build. a quick google of a build will give you the info you're looking for.
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>>4010674
That's true, but there are hundreds of builds, and I have no way of knowing in a random unique I got is usable. For example, there's this +5 to rabies weapon I got, and at first you'd think +5 to a skill is sick, but then nobody ever uses that weapon.
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>>4010582
pickits vary based on the stage of the ladder, item value is incredibly volatile
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>>4010691
I never ever mentioned ladder.
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>>4010701
well, then it's entirely based on what build you're using
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>>4010705
I want to try every viable build ever made.
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>>4010681

in that case google the item itself to find out if its used in any viable builds
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>>4010718
That's what I'm doing, but it's so tedious, and sometimes the posts I found about the item are from 2003 or something. Would be cool if there was a guilde where you could just ctr+F the item you need information on.
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>>4010708
why don't you just look at some pickit files and see what they have listed
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>>4010721
what is pickit?
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>>4010721
Why would I use third party software that could get me banned? I'm playing on bnet.
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>>4010723
a cheat tool that loots frame precise so no one can ever compete

ie single player or get the fuck out
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>>4010745
it means absolutely nothing
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>>4010748
what happens if multiple people are using it?
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>>4010750
The person with the better network connection wins out
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>>4010748
call it what you want, but a pickit file is the only thing that will show what he wants
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>>4010762
I just meant general usage of pickit on battle.net
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>>4010762
He's concerned about cheating, but you didn't even suggest using pickit, just looking at the files. I don't understand the problem here.
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>>4010762
Whatever, this conversation is pointless. There are plenty of such guides for other games, I thought there would be one for a 17 year old game too, but guess not. It's ok.
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SO HOW ABOUT THOSE VIDEO GAMES YOU GUYS?
I like the Diablo expansion Hellfire. What about you?
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>>4010774
diablo 2 is pretty damn complicated when it comes to item generation and crafting, compared to modern games.
if you haven't been playing for years, you'd not have the faintest idea why items like superior ethereal armors or polearms with no sockets are so damn valuable.
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>>4010783
Yeah, exactly. And with how small the stash is, I'm constantly worried about what to keep. Muleing is so tedious with the 5 minute wait time to perm a game.
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>>4010786
if you want to play online, then you should have two installations with separate cdkeys, that way you can mule instantly and safely, alternatively, you can use a 3rd party tool to rotate the keys on one installation instead.
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>>4010775
I didn't think it was very good.
The Sierra-original enemies had terrible animation that looked almost nothing like that of the base Diablo enemies.
The Hive levels seemed like something that was just thrown in for no real reason.
All the Fire/Lightning immune enemies in the Crypts to make pure Magic viable was a good idea, but it ignored the real problem, which was that there just aren't any good pure Magic spells in the spellbook.
Monk is a fundamentally dysfunctional class that takes away most of the fun of Diablo gameplay (finding new magic items), because almost all of the item types in the game are non-viable for Monks.
The new quests didn't really fit the theme very well.
Oils screwed with weapon balance too much, in my opinion, and the Runes weren't very useful.
Apocalypse should not have been made into a book spell.
Na-Krul was a patently unsatisfying boss fight.
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only 9 more days til the ladder reset lads.

what builds are you planning?

personally i'm going to make a hybridzon for farming, then branch out a bit. might try a barb or paladin for a change. i almost always do sorc/sin/zon/necro
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>>4010846
I have no idea what I'm gonna do, and how I'm gonna get gear. Last time I barely cleared nightmare with my sorc and had to keep farming to attune for hell, and the only good piece of gear I got was magefists.

I literally have no idea how people get to craft fort, infinity, or cta and shit.
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>>4010846
I'll probably end up leveling a boner for the 40th time.
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>>4010856
what runewords did you craft
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>>4010914
Runewords are for scrubs
They're a crutch for bad players
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So I've not played a Diablo in a long time, played a lot of PS1 D1. Would like to go a couple rounds on PC.

Are there any mods for D1 and D2 that make them a bit more friendly to modern monitors or anything else that may be nice to have? (don't care if it stops online play)
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>>4010914
Leaf, stealth, rhyme, lore, smoke, and a spirit sword.
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>>4010934
For D1, there's Beelzebub/Tchernobog, which can run at any resolution up to and including 1920x1200, but also adds a lot of controversial features.
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>>4010934
D2 has plugy that lets you reset your points for free, gives you an unlimited stash, and probably other good shit I don'tknow about.
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>>4010939
Sounds like that one may tilt the game a bit.
>>4010943
I like the sound of that. Don't want to permabone a character since I'm knew to it.
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>>4010937
you made a sorc and never bothered to make an insight polearm or spirit shield? next you'll be telling me you weren't using a merc at all.
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>>4010968
Yeah I have insight, forgot about it, because my cunt merc dies all the time. As for the shield, see >>4010562
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>>4010976
are you cubing all ethereal armor you find? treachery is the ideal runeword for mercs, with duress being the next best thing. stone is complete garbage.
what helm is your merc using?
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>>4010976
you also want any elite or exceptional polearm and roll sockets for another insight.
and some form of lifesteal is a requirement for your merc, whether it be a crafted blood helm or unique
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>>4010990
I haven't found a single decent def eth armor. He has some average smoke on right now, and for the helm, an eth necro one with the life leech on it, forgot the name.
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>>4011000
hopefully you're doing the math, because even a shitty eth armor goes into the thousands with any runeword
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>>4011012
But I was watching some streamer, and he said to only attempt ebugging high def ones. Some moses guy.
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>>4011021
if you are playing self found, then you are going to find tal, thul, ptopaz much, much more often than any ethereal armor piece.
it's worth it to roll every single one above 400 defense
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>>4010846
I will be on D2 regular hardcore ladder. I want to re-experience Charged Strike doing damage by the truck load but I also don't want to die in Chaos Sanctuary because no AoE. I am scared.
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Diablo with or without Hellfire is better?
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>>4011047
Without. ALmost everything Hellfire adds is bad.
Except running in town, which I am not completely sure if it's from Hellfire.
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>>4011070
Think it adds that. Ya from what I read it seemed like it would ruin balance more than anything while not adding much. I don't think it was even made by Blizzard.
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>>4011047
Without, by far. Hellfire's content is useless at best, and game-breaking at worst.
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>>4011152
Yea I skipped installing it. Now I'm trying to get the screen to stop stretching due to widescreen monitor.
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>>4011185
glide wrapper
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>>4010846
Hammerdin to jump into chaos farming for the first week or two, then switch to Zealer or frenzy barb after I make enough money for good gear
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>>4011185
You realize it's a GPU setting that is universal to all games, if you are talking about fullscreen.
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>>3971470
Why hasn't D2 been ever topped as hack'n'slash?

Every game that tried to be its "killer" did not understand why it is so great and did a lot of shit wrong.

Revenant - great combat system (actually best in all games of the type), but the game was kicked out with only 1/4 of intended content.

Nox - linear, most RPG elements got cut out before release.

Sacred - exponential scaling, too much numbers that do not matter, very little incremental gain from stats, most skills suck.

Dungeon Siege - even more linear than NOX, combat gets boring very fast.

Titan Quest - linear, most skills suck, boring combat

etc.

If there exists a hack'n'slash that at least tries to come close to Diablo 2's variety and complexity, I've never heard of it.
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>>4011492
Torchlight 1 and 2 aren't bad mechanicswise but both are kinda bland visually, especially 2. I simply gave up on Tochlight's second? act (The desert) because it felt like there were no fucks given about making the visuals rich.
Oh and every fucking boss from Torchlight 2 seems to be a summoner. Fuck summoner bosses.
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>>4011510
Torchlight falls into the same trap Sacred did - for all the big numbers and fuckton of magical properties on each and every item, there's not much in terms of actual complexity.

I've no doubt there's mods that try to rectify this, but I'm not up to digging through mounds of shit to find a golden pebble.
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>>4011492
I think of Torchlight 2 as an indie clone of Diablo 2 so naturally it won't be topped, but the way you can openly mod T2 gives it its own reason to play it over D2. It's bland like some people here said, but it's got its place.
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>>4011520
I believe to this day that Torchlight's 2 issue, to a degree, was that the creators relied on modding. Far too many developers don't realize that people is more likely to mod a game if it's good and has content already.
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>>4011542
Reminder that their fucking retard update killed multiplayer. You needed the exact same mods as someone to find or join or something.
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>>4011446
New menu for the GPU has a bizarre layout, can't find the damn option anymore sadly.
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>>4011520
Making a "Diablo 2 with modding" is pointless since Diablo 2 is already moddable and you have crazy things like Eastern Sun or Median XL

I have yet to see such a rehaul mod for any Torchlight game
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>>4011628
Diablo II's modding heavily limited by the old engine. Adding more areas than the game already has can't be done, for example.
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>>4011628
If you're talking about environments from scratch, one is a tile set game that rehashes simple 2D tile graphics and the other is a fully 3D game that uses large organic looking 3D tiles that fucking nobodies will ever be able to commit to unless you have the autism of Nexus and TES behind it. In terms of class and skill overhauls, there have been plenty. Torchlight modding is about smaller scale mods that you stack on top of each other.
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Is there something wrong with my game or connection or is something as generic as USEast-1 actually empty with 0 players?
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>>4011638

Actually Median XL Figured out how to get around that. Although it took some recoding of the fundamental engine.
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>>4011659
It took them about twenty years, so I wouldn't say Diablo II is really moddable. It is in the same way pincers are usable as a hammer-- the fact that it can is a happy but unintended happenstance.
Diablo II just happens to be a much better and deeper game that Torchlight 1/2, which makes people want to mod it much more.
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[shilling intensifies]
>>>/vg/177517785
for all those who d2 isn't retro enough
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>>4011653
USEast is fucking DEAD
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>>4011653
I was on USEast the other day and there were 4-5 different servers with 30ish people playing. I'm sure there will be more on the 30th.
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Guys I can't decide what to play.

Plugy by myself and enjoy:

>endless stash
>free skill resets
>non resetting maps
>infinite cow farming
>converting my decently geared character to sp

or

US East on ladder reset and enjoy:

>high ping
>trading
>playing with other /vr/ dudes, almost like how /v/net used to be
>starting a character again
>possibly getting carried and fed loot by cool dudes
>the latest patch that fixes some compatibility issues
>the advantage of d2jsp and stacking FG

I really can't decide, since I've been playing by myself anyways ever since I started again last month.
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>>4012012
I'll hop on East after they reset. Hopefully we can get a group of /vr/ guys playing.
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>>4012043
Yeah, someone said they'd make our own chat or something.
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>amulet drops
>it's eye of etlitch and not maras

Thanks a lot game.
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>>4012012
IS USE the only server that's populated? How is Europe?
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>>4012105
Europe is cancerous, just like in every single multiplayer game. Also nobody in here wants to play on EU, whereas multiple people have stated they play US East.
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>>4011628
Theres actually a few overhaul mods for Torchlight II, like Synergies and Far East and shit like that

Most mods are UI mods/Dungeon/Boss/Classes/Pets

The modding scene is actually pretty decent compared to how many people actually play/played it, and if you really enjoyed it (Like I did) theres tons of extra content via mods

Problem is most people find the game too bland to play for longer than a playthrough so they never really delve into the mods, or if they do they feel like its just more blandness

Thats all just my opinion though. Id love a torchlight 3 but its probably never gonna happen. Feel like Torchlight 2 added so much more than the first one, and that the third one could actually be a really great game if it did the same.
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>>4012131
I'm clearly European you illiterate mongoloid.
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>>4012121
>>4012135
POL-1?
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Hey guys, is it possible to have both a bnet installation, and a separate plugy one, and also to convert my bnet ladder character to the plugy verison, and also not get banned ever. Also, can I make plugy games with a friend? I remember someone talking about a program like hamachi, but better.
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>>4012174
you must be 18 years or older to browse this website
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>>4012218
Great reply.
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>>4012174

>Hey guys, is it possible to have both a bnet installation, and a separate plugy one
Probably

>and also to convert my bnet ladder character to the plugy verison
Not possible without character editor

>and also not get banned ever
No reason you would be banned

>Also, can I make plugy games with a friend?
plugy is singleplayer only

>I remember someone talking about a program like hamachi, but better.
Probably Gameranger
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>>4012321
Wouldn't plugy work with gameranger?
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>install plugy
>start hoarding everything
I don't think I'm supposed to be playing this way
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>>4012398
>install plugy
>game runs like shit because it's not on the patch that supports win7+ compatibility

They should fucking update that shit.
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>>4012406
Works on my Win7 machine.
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>>4012417
Yeah it works, but it looks like ass.
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>>4012420
Looks fine for me.
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>>4012443
Compared to the bnet version, it looks way worse and pixelated.
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>>4012451
Looks the exact same.
Maybe you should get your eyes checked.
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>>3973791
Any gc with item lvl 99 is perfect for rolling if I recall correctly.
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>>4007882
glide wrapper seems to be working for me though?
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>>4012460
It doesn't at all.
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With multiplayer plugy, my game is running at 600 fps or some shit, any way to cap it? Some anon earlier said it's bad for your GPU.
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>>4012406
Get the glide wrapper you absolute fucking mongoloid.
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>>4012483
It doesn't work, idiot.
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>>4012473
But it does.
Explain how it doesn't. Use complete sentences.
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>>4012492
see >>4012451
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>got plugy to work
>can't install a separate bnet version of the game

FUCK
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>>4012502
See: >>4012492
>Use complete sentences.
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>>4012471
Before you would use their video test to make glide wrapper work, but in 1.14 they yanked it out because they though they were funny, now we make glide wrapper work in another way.
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>>4012554
Stop being illiterate.
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>>4006650

>Broke Glide Wrapper
>Broke D2SE
>Broke PlugY

Copy and Paste fuckery still works on 1.13 patched diablo.
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>>4012606
But you're the one who can't even answer a simple question.
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>>4012638
You never even asked a question in the first place.
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I miss Tristram. Not even Diablo really, just Tristram itself.
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>>3974279
Wont be up forever, but I'd like to play some before the reset. Anyone else welcome to hop on.
70.119.108.78
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>have downgraded to 1.13c
>installed plugy
>game runs fine without it
>with it I get an error

In the plugy .log file it seems the mod is looking for files in my original bnet diablo installation. Anyone know how to fix this? It worked fine when I had my normal Diablo uninstalled, but I want to play both.
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>>4013180
Run regedit and search 'Diablo'. You probably have keys in it messing things up.
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>>4013187
Ok, but I'm not sure what to do exactly. For example none of the plugy registries lead to the folder where my vanilla diablo is installed.
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>>4013196
The issue is probably BLizard's own keys, search those.
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>>4013202
Can't find anything. ;_;
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>>4013202
Since the log file pointed out it's searching for the files in my vanilla folder, I coped those files in there, and now I can run the game, and it shows the proper patch. Thing is, now I'm worried if it this would ruin my vanilla installation, or get me banned if the files are detected in the folder, or maybe if it somehow the files get updated after I log into bnet or something.

Do you know anything about this?
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Also, here's the difference in quality between Diablo on the latest patch, and 1.13c with plugy. All because 1.13c wont run fullscreen on windows 7.
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>>4013230
they look the same?
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>>4013241
lmao
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>>4013230
no one worth a damn plays plugy
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>>4013313
speedrunners play plugy
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>>4013432
>speedrunning
>with mods
that's fucking disgusting, desu
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Where do you guys buy your Diablo 2 keys?




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