Now that the dust has settled, why did Vshojo JP succeed but Hololive's Flow Glow failed?
It is kind of crazy that VShojo's JP branch has that many viewers while the new Holo branch is the least successful so far. I get that DEV_IS branches haven't done that well but where are all these Japanese people on Twitch coming from?
>>91778586vshojo kind of stole holo's audience
>>91778541The vshojo JPs are mid 3views. When all 4 of them are online at the same time some of them only get like 200 viewers. It's not terrible for an org that previously had 0 presence in JP, but I don't think I'd call it a big success either.
>>91778541>[bait thread staple opening][question with a false premise]
>>91778541
>>91778541>Trying to get holofags to shit on VShojoJP's numbersVery subtle, phasecuck
>>91778541I know this bait thread is designed to pit Hololive against VShojo. But how does VShojo Nova compare against Phase Kaleido?
>shot her own monitor live on stream during her debutPhasesisters could NEVER
>>91779037vshojo has former idol, phase has jav idol
>>91778541Should mikeneko's crazy ass have just stuck it out?
>>91779205Oh fuck yeah which one did javs? I need to goon
>>91779523That implies that she can collab with a woman without getting paranoid that her audience would be stolen
>>91778541success?
>>91778541even as a vshojo watcher i don't think this way. why are baiting you a phasecucks jealous about your dead JP branch aren't you?
>>91780006>twitch and this a phasecucks trying to bait Holo against vshojo because of thier dead jp branch. even in /vsj+/ we dont think this way sorry
>>91778541>Hololive's Flow GlowI honestly forgot they exist.
>>91779037They've got similar numbers, though I think phasejp might be a bit bigger? If we don't count clara then maybe it's nova.>>91780063>>91780216Shut the fuck up and stay in /vsj+/ ESL retard. It hurts to read your posts.
>>91780006when all 4 are live the mid 3view when one or two are live they are mid 4view phasefags jealous because thier jps cant even get low 3view
>>91780471someone translate this
>>91778541Devis does not embrace kayfabe, this is a escapism hobby but they just dont get it
>>91780576"When all 4 are live they're mid 3views, when one or two are live they're mid 4views. Phasefags are jealous because their JPs can't even get low 3view"
>>91780656kaleido are low-mid 3views tho (not counting clara), sometimes reaching high 3view
>>91779205>phase has jav idolYou can't just say this and not drop it
Isn't VshojoJP all 3views?
>>91780656>>91780799DESU if they are similar in terms of CCV they'd be fairly good collab partners for each other.Can't really judge how the Phase girls are though. With >>91779037 I have to somewhat criticize their designs. It suffers a bit from the problems lots of EN Indies have, where the designs feel a bit random. That being said design isn't everything (but helps)One thing VShojo did (to my surprise) well is that they made the wave themed and the concepts simple so they were fairly memorable to me.
>>91780006Wrong website, monkey-san
>>91783527NTA, you're so aggressive to "correct" someone else yet i don't see you do the same thing with this very thread or this >>91778586 post for example, why? Either you're delusional to think that VshojoJp is more successful than FlowGlow or you're cherry picking because you got hidden agenda.
>>91783075It has 4-5 4views
>>91784832 (me)...reading is hard, yeah, the Novas are 3views when they stream at the same time, but tend to be 4views if only one or two are live. Henya and Kson tend to be 4views
Holojp debut before Gamers
>>91784660This thread is the first time I've ever heard the name "FlowGlow"
>>91778541Wtf is flow glow?
>>91785345Is that supposed to prove anything other than showing your ignorance?
>>91785589You got mad at me because I corrected information about one thing and not the other thing. I am explaining to you that's because I have literally no idea what the other thing is.
>>91780006OH NO NO NO NODELETE THIS
>hololive will never be PEAK
It's simple. Holo doesn't have the blue retard
>>91785643>I have literally no idea what the other thing is.>Hololive's Flow GlowI mean that's on the OP or are you going to claim that this is the first time youve ever heard of Hololive?
>>91785679Why? That's pretty good starting out on twitch. Especially with zero collabs with the main branch. No JP speakers gained more followers on twitch last month.
>>91778904Why are phasefags like this?
>>91785792There's still no explanation of what that is. A concert? A product? A group? A song?
>>91778541I dunno about the rest of you but it felt like Flow Glow was announced out of nowhere and debuted quickly after that so I didn't really have time to process there was a new gen.
>>91785713
>>91785548I don't know what flow glow is, but I do know what soul glo is
>>91778541Flow Glow is still doing better by a lot the real comparison is VshojoJP/PhaseJP both were kinda a dud because the guys behind it don't understand how to break in the JP market.
>>91785908I don't think you need to be a genius to figure it out based on the context alone but hey there is a possibility that you're a special case and not just a disingenuous retard, lol
>>91786305All I know is that whatever it is, it flopped.
>>91786584Depends, and if they are flop what do you call the less successful VshojoJp then?
>>91786874A nonentity.
>>91786874Reality isn't a simple flat number anon. If an indie dev releases a game they spent a month on and it sells 50k and a AAA dev releases a game they spent 3 years on and it sells 200k the fact that the AAA dev made 4x money is irrelevant when the indie dev easily came out on top.The bar for success is far lower for VShojoJP than it is for HoloJP.
>>91787083This reads like cope.
>>91786874FlowGlow is Victory Gundam VshojoJP is Gundam X
>>91787102VShojoJP is Buckshot RouletteFlowglow is Concord
Come listen to the blue retard. She speaks a little bit of broken English sometimes at this time of the day.https://www.twitch.tv/nagisekaied
>>91787154WE LOVE VICTORY GUNDAM ON THIS BOARDhttps://youtu.be/hX0W9Trg1KYGundam X...
>>91787216Use a better example I'm not a neckbeard loser who has time to waste on videogames.
>>91787406FlowGlow is Tienshinan.VshojoJP is Nam the Rajesh.
>>91786874VShojo NOVA is Goose Goose Duck or Lockdown ProtocolFlowglow is DEATH NOTE Killer Within
>>91778541who???????
>>91787600Leave Silver out of this.
>>91786874FlowGlow is Berserk 97VshojoJP is Berserk 2016
>>91787406Flowglow is Wish (2023)VShojoJP is Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves (2023)
>>91787871Use a better example Hollywood modern flicks are for manchildren and brownoids.
>>91787962>are for manchildren and brownoids.Same as /vt/
>>91787962So are vtubers.
>>91787962FlowGlow is ThunderBolt FantasyVshojoJP is Velma
>>91785738What happened to the 5th member?
>>91788152Nagi ate her.
>>91787962Here's the ultimate example. Nothing can top this.VshojoJP is Galzoo Island a game nobody cares about and nobody will ever care about but a nice game nevertheless.FlowGlow is 5D one of the weakest games in the series but still a game of the main series and as such destined to be reminded for ages.
>>91787962VShojo JP is Eddie GuerreroFlowglow is Chris Benoit
>>91788602oh ok now i get it
>>91778541how so? show their numbers
>>91790372This is just a bait thread, probably from a false flagger. The vshojo jps are 3views. One of them is online right now and has 900 viewers.
>>91778541>IMG_1164deviceban phoneposters
>>91790689You're most likely replying to OP.
>>91790689She cute tho.
>>91790820She does seem cute.
>>91790820>>91791049She's so intensely ESL. Cute.
>>91788602Thanks anon...am I the only alicesoftnigger that liked both galzoo island and 5D?
>>91779037As someone who speaks fluent Japanese and kinda liked the fresh-streamer-vibe the VShojoJP girls had, because it somewhat reminded me of early VTubing/Hololive. How would you say the PhaseJP girls compare?Any I should check out?Bonus points if their chat isn't infested by EOPs being annoying and off-topic.
>>91786874They're essentially a brand new corpo and every member was immediately successful enough to stream full time (though one still has a job), I'd call that a pretty good start
>>91793947>They're essentially a brand new corpoThat's a cope, you can argue being a difference branch lessen the brand buff effect (same case as Dev_is) but they still got the buff simply by association, by your logic HoloEN is essentially a brand new corpo
>>91795728He's not talking about branch autism but about the fact that Vshojo only had one streamer catering to JP viewers for an entire year.
>>91795728>they still got the buff simply by associationTechnically yes but the Vshojo fanbase is 99% EOPs so it wasn't a very big boost. Most of their Japanese fans have come from other places.>by your logic HoloEN is essentially a brand new corpoIt was in 2020.
>>91788602But 5D is kino...
>>91795728Hololive already had a massive english speaking audience. If they didn't they likely wouldn't have bothered.
>>91793947>>91796078A better wording would be that VShojo was branching out into a (somewhat) new demographic.Whereas DEV_IS's point was extending the existing demographic. (Still don't understand what exactly DEV_IS is supposed to be, with that weird IRL trailer they had)VShojo also has the problem that there are very little real VShojo tribalists.
>>91796078>It was in 2020.No one would think like this unless you're unironic newfag, most people tune in on Myth debut are already familiar with Hololive mostly thru clips
>>91796388If you want to be Autismo Prime then yes you are technically correct but I did say "essentially". They both took a risk and branched out to a new market they didn't produce any content for previously by hiring new staff and talent. That is what you have to do when starting a new company.
hololive is goodvshojo is goodthis makes the schizos go WILD
>>91796262>branching out into a (somewhat) new demographic.The same can be said about Dev_is>VShojo also has the problem that there are very little real VShojo tribalists.>>tribalists.Weird way to say dedicated fans
>>91796262>Still don't understand what exactly DEV_IS is supposed to beIf you don't understand that at this point you are either a tourist or clinically retarded.
>>91779205Who?>please let it be Loki
>>91798809>>91798947I don't know what the target demographic is supposed to be but they are Hololive Japan vtubers who stream and do concerts. It's literally the same product as they had already in the same market.
