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I just turned 30 and fucking hate the way I've wasted my life. Post your 30th pape or whatever.
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I just recently turned 26 and I've been starting to feel this way already. Sucks being depressed almost 24/7 and I'm still young.
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am i allowed to feel this way at 23 too
i hope things get better for you OP stay hydrated
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28 and know the feel
Things are looking up more than I like to admit though, I have a habit of letting my regrets overshadow every victory.

Never too early to feel it, but never too late to change things either (at least I hope not)
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No ideas what you are supposed to achive in 23. Nevermind education. The only thing you have to do in this age is to understand who you are and what you want from your life.
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>The only thing you have to do in this age is to understand who you are and what you want from your life.
I'm 22, closing in on 23 fast. I don't know who I am yet, I feel like a ghost, inhabiting spaces and leaving without a trace. I feel like I don't belong anywhere, just drifting through. I doubt anyone would remember me if they didn't see my face every day.
I don't know what I want in life either. I think I want money, it would help me buy things that are fun. Then I could forget about how sad I am for a little bit.
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Mate, look up how many famous actors, musicians, directors, writers, or whatever were doing in their 20s and you'd be surprised how many were working dead end jobs to make ends meet before they were even gunning for their future professions.

Demetri Martin's If I is a pretty good look at self analysis and how lifelong plans can switch overnight.
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Hope I'm one of those dudes.
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I just turned 20 and I feel the same way you're not alone my dude
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me too op
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26 here as well, been years of just fuck it and it's setting in
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i turn 27 tomorrow, OP

i had all my shit figured out for years. i was completely independent

then less than a year before graduation i became disabled due to a TBI

feels real bad
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near to you all bros
>i became disabled due to a TBI
Jeez man, how did it affect you?
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feel like i'm in a wave pool 24/7 (severe dizziness), constant headaches that go from disabling to excruciating every now and then, occasional mental fogginess, terrible short-term memory, extreme trouble focusing, trouble finding certain words, fainting due to my blood pressure getting way too low now for some reason, nausea/vomiting, motion sickness, worsened depression/anxiety, executive dysfunction, etc

there's probably more that i can't think of right now but i feel somewhat fortunate. i retained my intellect and most of my personality is intact and i feel as though i could probably recover and be at least functional with years of effort.

i also feel fortunate because i was working myself to death ever since i graduated high school. so even though i'm jobless and poor and disabled now, at least i can focus on getting to know myself in a more spiritual way (for lack of a better word, i'm not religious).

idk man shit will be alright
or it won't
the world will keep spinning

have a pape, friend
Me too lyf Fucking wasted by me
Hey mate I don't know you but I love ya. You're stronger then ill ever be, stay safe.
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24 here, I feel like I wasted it but don't see how it could have been any different and turn out better than it is now...other than getting laid.
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Same here. 27 and strugglin to keep strugglin.
Hang in there guys
Love you all
I feel your pain anon. I too woke up too late to my bad choices.
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It's all about the journey.

Nothing like a big bad bridge
To go burning through
I just turned 37 and fucking hate the way I've wasted my life. Well, see you in 7 years anon.
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Dropped out of uni at 20, got a shit job that pays fuck all, feel like my life is going to turn out to be a waste too.
go into trade school
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26 in a month. I've been chasing my dreams non-stop and it constantly feels like i'll never get there.
like i'm just wasting my time.
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join the military

you could've at least posted a wal, mang

sucks man. hang in there. hopefully you will find a treatment that at least diminishes those symptoms.

most of you are in your 20's ffs you still have time to get your shit together. keep learning, move forward. observe people who are doing well, what are they doing you aren't? Kind of embarrassed to say it but Jordan Peterson's exercise on self-authoring program is powerful.

have a random pape
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Keep going guys

We don't have any other choice anyway.
29 here, just bought my first house after living in my parents spare bedroom for years. The amount of apathy and self hate was suffocating, came to realize/admit the source of my stagnation was my father. Made plans to get out however I could. After a year on my own, life has never been so peaceful. Only took me 29 fucking years to open my eyes. There is hope for you all guys, independence is a hella of a drug.
Sorry bro, I feel you.
Thanks for writing this anon. 23 and working on it. Serenity and autonomy is all I long for.
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All of you who're feeling down and don't see much of a future, go see a therapist or psychologist. If you truly are depressed then you need some help.

I'm 27, been through a lot recently and realized I had fallen into depression again (been through it once when I was 17-18). Went to a therapist, got confirmation that I am suffering from depression again and got put on antidepressants. Don't let this kind of thing go on. There IS a light at the end of the tunnel. Nobody's going to do SHIT for you. Go and at least give it a shot. Things CAN get better. Things WILL get better.

Be strong, bros.
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Thanks for sharing.
I'm actually stuck in my room feeling like a retired senior. The only other person living with me is my old mother, who is 67 (I'm 27). Also, in the apartement above lives a man in his early 40s and below us his mother. I kind of gave up on moving out, but what one man can do, another can do.
you're a brave good hearted man
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You're 30 retard not 80, go do better and quit pitying yourself
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Happy belated Birthday Anon!
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My life haven't started until my 31st birthday. Stay strong OP.
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We´re all gonna make it
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I'm 24, I can relate.
Things will change when I graduate this summer.
I need the pressure to get away from this house/room I've been rotting in for almost a decade.

Best wishes to you, anon.
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Almost in the same boat, only difference is I turn 24 next week.

Sometimes my life's quarter-mile feels a lot like the finish line.
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Same. Now I make great money and literally get to spend 8 days out of the month in my home. All my friends are co workers and I have 0 time to even start dating again. It's a big circle jerk. Good luck to you, Anon,
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Don't listen to all these other losers feeling bad for themselves too in a joint pity party.
30's nothing.
If you feel like shit- do something about it.
Mark Twain didn't start writing until he was 30.
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oh boy... wait till youre 38...
for what?
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Don't worry, life is long...
Try to change people you see, music you listen, places you go to, etc...
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I hope this is helpful to the thread. I know this feeling intensely and the best way to combat it for me is to acknowledge or think of this:

Life doesn't have a meaning understandable to us. For something to be "wasted", that means it fail at what it's intended to do. Bread dropped in shit is wasted because it was intended to be eaten, and now should not be.

If you live your life according to your morals, values and principles, then you are doing as you intend. If your lifestyle is not aligned to those things [or say, aligned to what society expects you to be], then yes, your limited time in this form [being a human] is wasted...

I don't know. I'm having a bad day too and I'm not aligned with my principles or values today. If I was, I wouldn't be on 4chan trying to find a new wallpaper for my distraction of a computer.
fuck you commie shit
get a job, stop whining for others to cater for your useless existance
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that optimism will get you far. keep truckin, bud
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archer's a good show.
I am also 22, and you hit me in the feels.
This so much.
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this is my 30th
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Man I only came to /wg/ for some aesthetically pleasing papes but I keep finding all these feels. I'm in a similar situation as yours, I hope you find your path anon.
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ive been on a road of misery for the past 3 to 4 years. It started small and now ive been killing myself spiritually. For example i said something to my mom and dad that clearly hurt their feelings, and i feel dreadful fro doing it and instead of saying "hey man, this is wrong, you should create the opposite" i continue to live a life of misery.

feelings are addicting even if theyre bad for you. so the way i see it, you choose a path of misery and death or life. Dont muddy the past in the present bros, life is full of possibilities. DO WHAT THE FUCK YOU WANT TO DO AND TAKE WHAT YOU WANT, THATS HOW WE'RE BORN
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James, is that really you?
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Just turned 29

Boy I've been trying. I've been really trying but nothing seems to be working. I've been traveling around to different parts of the world. I'm on a major shoestring and only stay in poor countries cause they are more affordable than living in the US even with minimal income/savings.

When I say "nothing's working" I mean that I am not any happier or fulfilled from traveling the world. I'm a wandering lost soul. I pray all the time to this abstraction called God for some answers. But we all know. The answer is silence.

I am willing to confront my problems. I am willing to do whatever it takes to have a happy and/or meaningful life. But THERE ARE NO FUCKING ANSWERS!! Life is only meaningless wandering. Lonely. So goddamn boring and uncertain!

It doesn't change much. Yea I did things...I have "life experience" at different jobs and travels to other parts of the world.

But man, I'm still the same old depressed, aimless dude with no triumph of any will. To the bros at 23 to 26 right now. I'm sorry, but your condition is a lifelong one. That shit never goes away. It hasn't for me and I feel like all I do is try. Maybe that's a lie, maybe I'm not really trying. But it certainly feels like it.

God speed bros. Please prove me and my ignorant ass wrong. For all that is good in the world and in the world beyond ours.
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Okay, this is for you and everyone else in this thread. I hope it makes some sort of impact, only time will tell I suppose. First off, you must accept that you are responsible for your own happiness. You may not like this, but it's the truth. All happiness is internal, i,e, anything external CANNOT and will not fulfill you. As long as you continue to base your contentment and happiness on external circumstances, you will continue to experience this. This is the impression I receive from you in particular, especially with your emphasis on begging god and the universe for help. Happiness and internal fulfillment comes from within, and is based on love, gratitude, and purpose. You need to accept this. Realize that their are many celebrities/people who "have it all" success wise and have gone on to either kill themselves, or struggle with depression, or turn to heavy drug and alcohol use. When you base your happiness on external circumstances, it will not fulfill you in a lasting measure, and you'll always be looking for more. It might feel good for a while, but it always ends the same. Your life can change, you can be happy, and more than often it's an inside out-mechanism. When you are happy internally, the external tends to reflect that. Imagine you're looking in a mirror and you hate your hair. Would you fix that by combing the mirror? Absolutely not, but thats the equivalent with what youre doing for your happiness. Wandering around the world aimlessly is not going to fulfill you. That's not living with purpose. You have to find things to strive for, be grateful for them and everything will change. It doesn't matter what it is, only you know. If your purpose is beyond yourself, and if it helps others, even better and more fulfilling. It can be anything, write a book on something you love, join the peace corps to merge traveling with a purpose, ANYTHING. Your life will change, I promise, but it's on you, no one will do it for you.


Think of when you get a new car, (or something similar, new computer, whatever) You probably were super excited, probably had a dopamine rush coursing through your veins. For that day you're on cloud nine. Let's say for the next week you're excited, it makes it nice and you feel "happy." Suddenly 2 weeks later, you notice you're not as excited about it anymore. A month later, it has now become just another thing that you're used to, and you're unhappy again/want the next thing.
THIS is what it is like when you base your happiness on external circumstances, and no it is not limited to materialism. Materialism is an example. Most people know intuitively stuff won't make you happy, but few truly understand that external circumstances are the SAME. Doesn't matter what you base it on. Money, sex, fame, attention, etc all fall in the realm of external things that won't fulfill you. All are like the example of the new car that you eventually get used to. When you live life purposely, all that stuff is a bonus, but you're not dependent on it. Lonely and think a relationship will make you happy? You'll feel the exact same way in your relationship, eventually. Relationships are meant to be two people sharing their lives, sharing their internal worlds, the essence of who they are together. You don't rely on a person for fulfilment. Lonely? get some purpose in your life, watch how your mood and mentality change, and watch the great things, people, and experiences that you attract waltz into your life. You said to the younger people that what you have is a lifelong condition and it doesn't change. Well you're right, if you continue to live with this attitude and mindset of external fulfillment and then curse the world for answers, then yes you will always have this. Live with purpose and watch everything change forever.
To regret is to waste current life
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I feel a lot of people here. I feel fortunate that I know what I want to do with my life in a lot of ways and I am doing it. Most days I feel okay. Others I ask why I bother, realize that I have no close friends and lost my last girlfriend to my ambitions towards goals that people are proud of me for pursuing and I feel are the only thing that matter. Nothing else is enjoyable for long aside from working on my "passion" even though I hate it a lot of the time. It wouldn't be so bad if I knew someone who was in the same boat as me and could just say "I get it man."

I've had enough money to do what I want, I've had the sex, done the drugs, I don't care for fame or attention. It's all empty. Buddy isn't wrong about that but I don't know if he's right about it being something you can change. I have purpose, I know what I want in my life - it just still feels... I don't know honestly
>To regret is to waste current life
Sometimes, it can be motivating to regret things and to strive to do better in the future. Regretting also implies that you take responsibility for past mistakes, which strengthens the role of you being an active protagonist in your life.
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Forgot pape
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Then fix it.
>but muh problems this and that.
That's what you fix.
>but obstacle this and that
Then start there, although I recommend starting with diet and exercise because garbage in = garbage out. I recommend a severely sugar limited diet along with cutting onions and anything with GMO dairy because psuedo estrogens. Same with testosterone, eat some fat so you're not a raging lesbo 100% of the day every day. And for exercise... you do it outside, not in a gym because sun = vitamin D = best health.

Now i have to finish my ACV & lemon tea and it's sweet dreams for me. Well my dreams aren't sweet, but at least I'm remembering them now.
>cutting onions
Cutting soi fecking s,o y. I forget these filters exist.
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I am 30 and I am so fucking happy
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Sometimes, cutting off your arm can be motivating to engage in activities you only can if using one limb. Cutting off your arm also implies that you have the strength and will power to do something so difficult and painful, which strengthens the role of you being an active protagonist in your life.
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I've been pretty heavily depressed almost 24/7 since around 12 or so. Meditation has always made me feel better than anything else though. I stress anyone to not underestimate its capacity.
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hey anon, 30 is the best age to change things you feel wrong. Never stop being curious about everything and give people a chance, theyre not that bad after all
What path did you take?
What path did you want to take?
What path do you now wish you had taken?

I'm curious, because I'm 25, on a path I wanted, but now I'm questioning. I'm afraid that in five years I may regret what I have set in motion and wish I had changed it.
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can't stop hitting licks
loving it
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fuck me if not every single one person living in that city isn't suicidal
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>born a middle child, only son
>girls receive better care/attention I'm taught to tighten my belt
>hit puberty, and damn if I'm not getting into guys
>hide this shit forever from everyone
>effeminate voice tho, parents suspect
>bible camp for 10th and 11th grade, no reason given.. but I knew.
>Have female friend pretend to date me
>19, like this guy. Don't make enough money for apartment and scared to leave home. Bridge can not be unburned. He loses interest
>hate everybody until 22, meet another guy. Living in own apartment but he's just an online crush
>he finally reveals he's getting married and was just curious about himself
>fuck everybody until 26. Done with even pretending I'm datable so focus on work. Get decent job, as decent as you can get with an associates.
>Can finally buy luxuries. Save for a bit and build myself a pc. immerse myself into a world of vidja and anime
>buy vidja accessories, nerdy stuff.. apartment looks like it was designed by a 14 year old kid.
>Meet another guy, local this time. Chat online/on the phone. Agree to a date, date goes well. second date does the same.
>third date, I've... seen the inside of his home. We'll leave it at that. But then he'd like to see mine.
>I warn him
>He didn't believe me
>Why didn't he believe me
>We apparently didn't know each other well enough. I can't say definitively but we've fallen out of touch since he saw my place. And my nintendo plushies. And my zelda posters... and my sword replica's... and my manga collection.
>I'm 30, and I've cucked myself into a faggot nerd zombie who will forever be alone.
>wallpaper related, mfw
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that's a damn positive outlook on life with the shit you're in. hope you recover fully anon
Same here man...haven't bought clothes or food in 2 years
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fuck him then
you're into the shit that you're into and fuck anyone else for talking smack about it
You'll find someone else better than that loser
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What I was trying to say is that regretting something can be the first step to actually changing some behavioural pattern for your own good.
I'm not trying to preach or anything. Like, I was watching too many mindless youtube-videos and TV when I was younger, to numb some pain of a loss in my family.
There's a point too, where regret just causes misery - it's unreasonable and wasteful, but I guess figuring out, where to draw the line is simply a part of life.

Maybe something like this:
The least amount of regret possible to learn from your mistakes and move on.
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(for the sake of context, >>7346844 here).

i thought this thread got 404'd and i'd never find out if someone responded
i love you too anon ;_;

hanging in here, anon. i'll read about jordan peterson's self-authoring program, though. thank you for the recommendation

you're good hearted too, anon. thank you friend

i have ups and downs, but overall i see the experience as an important crossroad that i needed and wouldn't have done on my own, you know? better this than being stuck in a soul-sucking career that wasn't fulfilling anyway. i'm still young and the human brain/body has miraculous ways of recovering. thank you for your words of encouragement, anon

believe me, i was in a very dark place for a time and my mental/emotional outlook was very grim. but i think when we pay attention to ourselves and allow ourselves to just stop for moments of recollection, it makes a world of difference. i think that psychologically now i feel significantly better than i have in years.

kind of related: i was close to dying last tuesday (the hospital probably thought i tried to kill myself--i didn't), and i think all of these experiences have given me a renewed outlook on life, and really just how to take care of myself. thank you for your wishes for recovery.

sorry for the long post, i just wanted everyone to feel as though they weren't being kind for no reason. i appreciate all of you so much more than you'll ever know, and i mean that. thank you again, all of you <3

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You're gonna carry that weight.
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Sad, existential conversation over cozy wallpapers is what keeps me coming back to this bored.
living in your room when you are 24 is rough, but in what world have you "wasted your life" before you even set foot in the real world? Relax man, things are going to be a lot better.
what did you say?
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I agree with >>7354154 . I'm a huge geek, and even though I wouldn't bring that up on a first date, eventually I want to be able to be comfortable with what I like around the person I like. Otherwise, I literally rather keep my nerd hobbies than get laid
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Just felt like sharing a bit of optimism here

I'm quite a jolly fella, and what keeps me happy is that I focus on enjoying the small things.
I enjoy my meals
I enjoy each can of beer and each can of coke I open, each sip I drink
I enjoy my hobbies and playing the games I like
I enjoy the people I like, and like to make sure they know about it
I like spending time with my family
I like to hang out with my bros, talk to them, get to know what they are up to. Share a good moment. Give them a hug
I like my online friends, guys I met on games. I like my coworkers
I like the people I see daily, even if it is that cool guy who works on the groceries store near my place
I like the weekend, regardless of whether I party the entire thing or if I just stay at home playing minecraft
I feel good about exercising
I feel good about completing the 3-days routine at the gym
I feel good about going for a run 5x a week
I feel good when I complete my tasks at work
I feel good when I share memes and make jokes at work (I'm the meme guy)
I feel good when I wake up early in the morning, with the morning light coming through my window

In the end of the day, these are the things that make me happy
I don't care whether I'm earning good bucks or not (I have no idea whether my salary is good or not)
I don't care whether I'm better than anyone
I don't care whether I'm famous or just some random odd dude
I don't care what people think
I don't care what I dress
I don't care how old my car is

My goal is to be happy
Happy with myself
Happy for the people around me
Happy for the people I know
Happy for the people I don't know
Happy for myself

Life is too short to waste your time not being happy
So much this.
I like that. How old are you anon?

27 here. Really helped me reading the Bible if you're wondering how I defeated depression.
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bold move
24 here doing some stupid degree I don't even want in some field I don't care about. Won't be done until I'm 25. Every year goes by faster than the last. Life feels so empty and meaningless. Shit is so fucking dumb.
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What you need to realize is that you don't fully comprehend the world. You're unable to fulfill any goals because you can't figure out what they are in the first place. You don't understand why the world looks and acts the way it does, and you can't fathom how any goals of yours could possibly fit into this world. Everything seems to be working against you. You don't understand why people don't behave more rationally, or why they can't see obvious things in their surroundings.

Your next goal should be to figure out what archetype you fit into as a human being. You need to understand from what angle to approach the battlefield of existing, so to speak. From there you can start to deduce your skillset and how it can be implemented in the real world to get the results you want. Through this journey of self-fulfillment you will derive happiness.

My suggestion is study physics, at least surface level physics. Learning about the finer workings of life will allow you to recognize patterns in the real world that correspond to the way universal phenomena manifests on at least a cosmic scale, to the extent your human perception is capable. You'll find there are a lot of repetitious patterns in the physical world, and they can be deciphered in order to predict future phenomena. Never stop looking inwards.
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>I like that
I'm glad to hear that, anon! One of the things I strive for, besides my own happiness, is to be able to irradiate it to the people around me

>How old are you anon?
26 I think

I'm still quite young, but I'm very happy with what I have achieved so far regarding self-discovery. There is still space to grow of course, and I'm always looking for ways to grow, but I think I already got a lot figured out, or at least am on the right path. I think the rest (career, money, etc) are mundane compared to the power of being happy by yourself (though I'm not oblivious to the fact I come from a good background and that never in my life I had any really big issue)

I have much hope for the future
I might have to say goodbye to basically everyone I know this year (I'm planning to move to another continent)
But I'm also really looking forward to it

I know all of this sounds easier said than done, but it actually works for me
I'm always trying to improve myself, in every way
To become a better person
To un-attach myself from mundane things
To un-attach myself from things I cannot control
To un-attach myself from things that bring me down
To un-attach myself from the need to compare myself to others
To find new ways to become happy
To find new ways to overcome my flaws
To find new ways to shine my strengths
To find new ways to become more of my own self

And talking about this makes me happy. To look into myself and see something I admire. To look to others and admire them for what they are. Learn from them. If I ever have a child, I want to be at least half a parent my mother was. To all my new friends to come, I want to be half a good friend my best friend is

So really, in the end, I think my happiness comes from focusing on the good things and on the small things, and the constant desire to grow as a person, without the greed of needing to feel superior to others

Also, I have a new collection of wallpapers and it makes me incredibly happy. Thanks /wg/!
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Anyone struggling in life, just read this. It really is this simple.
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I find that this brand of advice tends to be better understood by those who are on the spectrum and are more naturally inclined to decide their actions based on logic rather than on temporary emotions or "gut feelings". To the neurotypical reader, this advice would instead be taken personally and they would feel more attacked by it than inspired by it. I find that I tend to make a lot of my decisions based on whether or not I am giving my time to something that does not benefit me, or giving my attention to someone who does not value it, however despite knowing internally that I have made the right decisions I find myself questioning afterwards whether or not doing so would be considered "cold" or not. I agree that as a society we do tend to have a problem with trying to be nice in situations where it is not logically warranted.This is something that I now believe was exactly what I needed to hear in order to get myself back on the move. Thank you for posting this and thank you for reading my wall of text if you chose to do so.
Children base their actions on vague "gut feelings" and act overemotionally is one of the central points to the entire post.
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Life is too short to have regrets. Do whatever the fuck you want, and don't let shit like age stop you.
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based. good post
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If I could go back, one more time
I would take her , make her mine
But now I'm here old and lonely
And I lost my hope, cruel and slowly
imagine being me, a retard 30 year old with one year of collage, who finally realizes that he wants be a scientist?
Felt like this all of college. One day I woke up and decided to delete all my social media accounts and remove any friendships that weren’t genuine. I spent the next year just working on myself by going to the gym, trying to learn a new language, taking vitamins, etc. Everyone is different, but that shit did wonders for me.
well, then become one?
I decided that I want to be a lawyer when I was 26 and went to university. Just about to finish among the top 5% in the whole country, I'll be 33 when I get my admission at the end of this year and I already have several job offers from the best law firms on the planet. There are people in my classes that are older - the oldest one is 41 and she is doing fine as well.
22 here with nothing in life living with my parents who hate me, a daughter I never see and everyone sees me as a failure and no one wants to give me a chance or a job and im ready to end it boys, I don't think there is hope for me. It's over
What the fuck. You are basically still a child. You can do EVERYTHING you want. Granted, having a child puts some boundaries on you, but still, what the fuck?
Leave city or even the country, start fresh somewhere else. The best has yet to come.

What's your education? What skills do you posess? How old is your child?
No I'm not I feel like I'm 22 and old as fuck, my prime years were ruined by some whore who wanted me to just be her slave, so she left me and took my child away from me and went to another cuck. What would the boundaries be by having a child I never even see at all? I haven't seen her for over an year. I want to leave the country so badly so she wont put child support on me like the cunt she is, and leaving the city is an option too but the laws will find me eventually. How has the best yet to come? I'm fucked in this life I feel. Theres literally nothing left.

High School Diploma, 1 year of college and got out.

I am very technologically inclined and computer literate, work with computer software/hardware, Working on an SEC+ certification, bit of programming, but without a job or money ill never do nothing in this stupid life. Ive worked at a call center before and construction jobs (which I didnt like but could handle), and general clerk and cook shit.

I am also a very talented musician for a music genre that is new in the music industry. But no one wants to give me a chance, I dont have any connections whatsoever and nobody is willing to learn to play with me to start something huge.

My child is 2 years old. I haven't seen her at all since last year and I just want to end this miserable piece of shit life that always finds a way to fuck me over.
>but the laws will find me eventually
Move to some third world country with zero infrastructure. If they can't find you, they won't even try.
I've been thinking about moving to India if things ever got really bad for me.
Trying to understand things better with the help of /wg/:

Why is people SO obssessed with having to "be, do, or get" something? I've never understood it.

PS: Not edgy, just never felt the urge to behave that way but seems pretty common.
This right here, OP. My friend of 10 years passed away last year, he didn't make it to 30 - that's a waste of life.
If you want to indulge in a pity party, go ahead. If you want to do something about not feeling like you're wasting your time, then even better.
I've been homeless, and at one point, didn't see myself living past 30 either. But here I am, looking forward and learning from my mistakes to live a more productive, happier life.
You are just beginning to enter your prime years bro, don't worry. I had similar feelings when I was your age, but boy was I wrong. You have at least 5 more years at peak level. And when you stay fit, a lot more. Im 32 now and still doing very good.

If you are not getting hired in the tech field, find out why that is. Go back to college if you need to. Keep that music thing going in your spare time. Don't give up man!
Dont know which country you are from, but when your ex is living with a new man, chances are good you won't have to pay.
i've felt the same way. there's some question, but i don't know the answer - or even what the question is

i've tried lots of things to figure it out, but none of it has gotten me any closer. life just keeps moving

just find the little things that make you happy. for me it's music and those short moments where all my friends are in one room, broken into individual conversations, laughing and smiling together. it's not great advice but it's all i know that works

we'll be okay
that advice isn't one-size-fits-all
Cause when you're nothing, you do nothing, and you've gotten nothing out of it, life can seem pretty hollow.
But I am nothing, yet I have a job I like and a house where I want . I was asking because I lack whatever sense of ambition you could think of. Which helps me to just keep flowing through life with my hobbies and my stuff. Life only asked me for a house and I needed a job for said house.
And after all of this, I do not feel empty. I just feel bothered at most.
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Are you taking any substance(s) at the moment?
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I'm 21 and i already feel this way, i wasted my teenage years and it feels like im going to waste my 20s. Im working to change that though

It seems that we're all depressed here.
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Work on it and things will change.
Never give up!
I hate photos made to look like this, I don't know what's the name of this effect. It feels like my eyes are drowning.
>t. child
Unironically though you are right. However it is pretty general advice that communicates how to better yourself from an objective point of view. In that it explains the exact reasons for why someone would fail despite being sufficiently motivated and doesn't add any fluff to it. Overall though I'm sure it wouldn't be the best advice for everyone, either, just that to the specific subsets of people who tend to end up browsing here it is highly useful advice.
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just turned 30 as well, good luck anon.
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You prob feel as if you wasted your teen years, so live your 30s like your 20s before you're 40.
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Feel ya anon, keep going, im tryana do the same
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Not sure what to say here other than "I completely relate, but want to fix it." To try and keep things brief, I started college for Physics, got scared that I was going to end up as some do-nothing number cruncher all my life, and changed majors to English.

Got my BA, couldn't get a decent job. Fine, back to grad school. Got my MA, can't get a decent job.

I was working in an office as an e-mail clerk, but it was unfulfilling and barely paid enough to keep my bills and rent in check. I live with 2 other guys about the same age and desperately wanted to get out and find a place with my girlfriend. At the time, she was unemployed and looking for work as a drop out from law school and it was rough going.

A few months ago I spiraled into a REALLY bad manic state, lost my job, my roommates are moving out in 3 months, and my gf ended up leaving me last week. Now I'm terrified of what to do, can't find a job that feels either fulfilling or at least pays what I "should" be worth with an MA. Most of the time I tell myself "Oh, I'll look into learning programming", since I love the idea of being able to be a programmer, but I have no idea where to start and doubt anyone would hire some 30-something without a CS degree as a programmer.

Most days I try to get out of bed and put out some applications, but the same thing always happens: get depressed about ex-gf, get depressed about shitty jobs I have to submit for, get depressed about likely needing to move into a shitty apartment in a few months, feel like there's no way out, go back to sleep for another 4 hours and try again.

Any suggestions, advice, help, anything would be appreciated. I just want to work a job that pays enough to afford (even a small) house and doesn't feel like a high school student could do it.
Time enjoyed wasted isn't time wasted.
>poor parents
>no school, no security, well paid software job though
>can't relax until I settle parents
>can't have a love life
>can't have a private life
>can't anything

trying to develop an artificial life form, in my free time

it sounds insane
it's the only thing keeping me sane though
How get "well paying software job" when "no school"? Asking for ... a friend.
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>The only thing you have to do in this age is to understand who you are and what you want from your life.
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Is so weird to hear all these young people living alone, I'm 22 and from where I am we don't leave the house for college, And I feel like sucking the life out of my parents, he has been having problems with drinking and money lately, I wish I could find a part time job to leave the house but I get so busy and I'm scared of failing Uni being halfway done with it
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>based. good post
Glad you enjoyed it

>Are you taking any substance(s) at the moment?
I have literally never taken any illicit substance in my life. I enjoy drinking, but that is that. Never even had a smoke
I understand you anon, same happening to me here.
Thank you guys I really appreciate the advice I'll keep trying to move on in life amd make it better and I hope you guys are doing well
Hoping won't do it. It won't happen on its own. Either you are one of those dudes, or you're not, but it is up to you. If you want to be one, you have to work for it. You have not just believe "if I keep working this dead end job to pay my rent, then one day I will become successful." No. Work your ass off, with a goal in mind. THEN you might see some progress later, THEN you might end up doing something that you can be proud of at when you are laying on your deathbed.
How about antidepressants?
You just seem so goddamn happy.
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you still have most of your life left.
unless you live in some third world shit hole in which case you got like 15-20 years to go
focus on making incremental improvements to yourself through daily small goals and go from there.
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these threads always ask for the x # of papes from the front of your folder. But i'm gonna give you the 30th pape descending from the back of my folder, as the ass end never gets no love.
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This is the saddest thing I've ever read.
Is that fucking george miller?
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36 here and enjoying life. Despite being back living with rents because the housing market is ridiculous if single. Also despite being single.

>>7354662 is good post. Enjoy what you have and aim for more things you think you will like, and work on the means to get them. Stop fucking moping around about how mopey you are.

Things I enjoy:
I enjoy my daily work. It's challenging and not boring in the slightest because I actually need to work my brain out daily. Great satisfaction when shit goes right on my account. Even not bad when shit is going not right because it's good to be needed. Better than so many of my previous jobs.
I enjoy that I have savings well underway now and an endgoal target in sight for getting my own place. I never really did savings before this, always just renting.
I enjoy my living set-up despite being back with parents. I am the main breadwinner now and able to provide. with many comfy capitalist comforts for using in my downtime.
I enjoy my weekends. Whether that means spending it out in the mountains or staying in for beers and boardgames with the guys. Even just a day of vegging out with some shitty movies and a few Guinness is good.
I enjoy gardening.
I enjoy these two papes >>7350825 and >>7347208 so thank you for those.

Give thanks to yourself for the good and it'll lift your mood. Thumbs up pape to celebrate.
Thanks for posting some positive life experience.

One thing I would like to share when it comes to depression:
Something that helped me immensely in situations of depression was to tell myself about how great of a person I am. Not the things I did or didn't do, what I am able to do and so on... But simply to tell myself that I am enough the way I am and that I have great qualities. Just give my soul a back rub so to speak.

This might seem stupid and weak to some of you (it would have seemed to me in the past anyways) but then again I also told myself many many times how much of a loser and a weakling I was etc.

Loving myself gave me more confidence and trust in myself to pull through challenges. And I think Self-love can ultimately trump over that part of you that wants to keep you down and beat you up.

Maybe this helped some of you, maybe it didn't
didn't expect to see another TBI victim on 4chan. If your still on this thread i'd be up to chat.
using, thanks anon
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>How about antidepressants?
Nope, I have never taken anything like that as well.

At my company, we always say "hi" and "bye" on a chat with all employees so management can keep track of when people come in or go out. I always try to start the day saying something more cheerful than just "good morning" or "hello", so I can cheer up my coworkers. Today a colleague commented it by saying "Are you excited, Anon?", and this was my reply:
>Yes <name>, always! Life is too short for not being cheerful and happy
>Everyday is a great opportunity to live the fullest
"Cheerful and happy" translate poorly to English, but that is my catchphrase. Whenever someone asks me how I'm doing, I always say that. I literally say that everyday at work, and I know deep inside this cheers up my coworkers, even if it is just a tiny little bit. And knowing that cheers me up and make me happy.

Things like happiness, sadness and anger are contagious. If you are always around people who upset or moody, you will be brought down as well. But if you are on a light environment where things are bright, that will brighten your day. At least I believe that, so that is why I try to be a bright point on people's life.

In the end of the day, I don't really have much to complain about
I'm alive
I'm healthy
I mind works just fine
I can interact with the world and the people around me
I wished I didn't had to waste so much of my time working, but if I'm going to do it, I rather do it with a smile on
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Glad to hear you enjoyed. I think we enjoy mostly the same things.

I enjoy my daily work too. I honestly would rather not have to work at all, but since that is not an option, the job I currently have is quite great. It is challenging, it is a nice environment, I get along great with my coworkers, etc. This is actually the only job I ever had so far
I enjoy that I have savings, but I might spend most of it this year to achieve my ultimate goal (to move to Europe). Around April I will have a confirmation if that will work or not
I enjoy my living set-up, especially now that I'm no longer living with my parents. They are great, but I needed my space. I do alright financially, though I doubt I will ever earn more than either one of them. I don't have much capitalist comforts (I don't even have a bed), but that is OK because I'm a simplistic guy
I enjoy my weekends, but I wished I could enjoy them more. Lately I have been working on weekends once each 2~3 weeks, and that sort of bums the whole weekend. When I do enjoy my free time, I'm always up for a beer and for board games (my main hobby is designing my own board games, and I love playing them with my friends)
I don't really enjoy gardening. Not my thing I guess
I enjoy the wallpapers from >>7361488 (that is what brings me to /wg/). I'm hoarding a quite good collection of this kind of papes, and it makes me incredibly happy

I thank myself everyday, because ultimately, I'm the responsible for my own happiness. But I also never waste the opportunity to show appreciation to people I care about - my family, my friends, my girlfriend. I never leave things unsaid

I wish you well, anon. Keep up the good mood :)
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hurrah for underground!
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38 oldie here, first off I wish you a happy b-day, anon.
It wasn't until I was around 33 before I got into normal waters. Been screwing around doing stuff that didn't add anything in my life.
Right now I'm doing pretty good. Got other people around me, different job, different house.
When realization comes around, it's never to late to change things.
Keep your chin up and do it!
Hey there fellow old, same boat on all that stuff. I needed to do a lot of traveling, figuring shit out, learning from others and for myself - and then figure out life has some good small things.

My motto is always - i need to do things in my own time, realizing it can go bad or good and accept that.
Forgot to post my pape..

Well said fellow oldie, it's the small things in life that add to the bigger picture.
Traveling has been on my mind lately, and I mean to far away places. Want to go to Iceland, Alaska and such. Just the wild nature, being in that time and place...
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Ain't Too Late Mate.

Most writers/artists/actors/creatives all don't really get their break until after their 30s. And those that do are normally better adjusted than child prodigies.

Anyway, Small goals man.
I live for my art and my fitness mostly.

"Oh but i suck at art" yeah and so did i until i put that mentality aside, checked the ego and practiced.

Look after your body,
Get Fit,
Get into Hiking and Nature,
You know those BEAUTIFUL papes we get with a bit of fog over a forest? Yeah you could take those photos.

So yeah,
Get fit
Get a passion
and do them both for you and no one else.

(Videogames and 4chan in moderation my friend)
I'm 27 and I still have the looks and strength of a 15 year old. While I'm somewhat not happy with my current life, I am trying to improve my situation by trying different opportunities.
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22 here and I've been depressed nearly every day for ten years now. I wish other people didn't have to deal with this shit. I feel like I'm not doing anything right by anyone, no matter how hard I try to do what makes me happy. Probably just my depression talking, though...

Same here. I haven't really tried formal meditation, although I do like sitting outside and taking in everything. That could be mediation of sorts, I suppose.
I'm 22, will be 23 in 5 months. I tend to feel the same. I feel like I'm faking my own personality, even though I know I'm not. Also that there's no point for me to even try to get along with anyone... You ever get that feeling like you're watching a movie through your own eyes? Like everything around you is a sham?
I have a therapist and have tried every type of antidepressant out there. Only thing that really helps me is smoking. Other than that, standard "feel good shit", like funny movies can occasionally help. All I can do is pull myself out of it at this point.
Who is this cutie?
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I hated my life at 30. My longterm relationship had just fallen apart and I was alone living in an overpriced basement apartment in a terrible urban shithole.

I'm 38 now, married with two kids. Life is much, much better. Don't give up. What is, doesn't always have to be.
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I also feel like shit. Luckily for me I just got accepted to what seems to be an amazing job, I'm starting tomorrow. But that is just one thing. My girlfriend is an amazing girl and she deserves whole the love in this world but I can't stop thinking about going to bed with other girls. I feel shit because I'm the shit. I wish I had meet her later in my life, now at 25 I don't want to let her go but also I want to taste other bodies, I feel I'm too young to take things serious. I'm wasting her time (she's 27 yo), she dreams on getting married and having kids before 30. I don't know if I would ever want to have kids Fuck I hate myself !!!
This one always reminds me of One Punch Man. No matter if you're 30 and think that animes are for kids - go watch that show. (I'm a 32 year old lawyer and I love it)
what is sad about it?
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Im 25, me and my family have been living on a rent for 5 years. For those years we have gathered around 60% of the sum to aford our own flat, but lately it's been very hard to put savings in the bank, and we cant take a mortgage because we dont receive an official salary (the banks need an official income declaraton). Since January we decided to move to my wife's parents in order to be able to save money faster without having to pay for a rent at least. I cant wait to reach that joyful feeling of yours, having a place which you can call your own. Have my own couch, my own desk and room for my boy. My own bedroom where we can fuck with my wife without worrying if we make louder sound
good luck anon
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not sure if you'll see this, anon, but i would love to chat. i'm not that great of a conversationalist, but if we can achieve solidarity i'm sure we'll both feel fulfillment
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also, thank you. i'm already working on making a lot of big changes in my life that will ultimately be good for me in the long run
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do you have a throw away email address I could have, just in case the thread 404s. I've had all the symptoms you stated in your first post (excluding the nausea/vomiting).

there's something about this that has made me more spiritual then what I was before my concussion. Idk if its the feeling of helpless, or the rebirth like experience that comes from losing everything that you once held true. i appreciate the good times more now because I understand how bad things can truly be.

I've been in the rehabilitation stage for the last 5 months and i'd be more then happy to share the things with you that have helped me.

all the best anon
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I'm 24, and when I actually sit down and think about who I am and what I've done till now, I get depressed. I've 6 years deep into an AA Transfer Program at community college that should only have taken 2 years.

But, we have to realize what is and is not within our ability to control. I've taken four years longer than normal because My parents finances screwed me over on financial aid, despite my needing it. But it's fine, I should be done and moving for my Bachelors by the end of the year, where I can make up the lost time.

This guy has the right idea
Marie Grippon
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no throw-away email, but if you'd like, we can start on last.fm :^)

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