[ D a i l y B i k e T h r e a d ] - /dbt/W E B M E D I T I O N PART XIII : P O L I C E A R E O U R F R I E N D SHere is where you can post more of your boring webms with sound!Previous thread : >>1324684Main /dbt/ thread: >>>/o//dbt/No cyclists allowed; all bikes posted must have an engine or motor as primary power source.
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why the fuck do you call it daily bike thread if your last thread took over a month?
>>1407894because it's the thread for webms with sounds for the daily bike thread
>>1407894>powered by bongos
>riding home late at night
>>1407877kek is that elliot rodger playing over your video?
>>1408378no I'm vlogging
>>1408928kek, you could've easily taken that corner
>>1407877wr anton auf der suizidschau
>>1407928gayest thing I have ever seen
>>1408928no commit, just quit
>>1408939>ninja riderhe would have over-countersteered with shit body position and lowsided
>>1407050>>1407042what a fucking asshole
requesting motogp stoppie braking plz
Im getting a bike in spring, got a 35kW licence but im thinking of starting at 125cc because i'd rather take it slow at first.any recommendations for a good bike
>>1413772I´m gonna get a 35kw licence myself next year but i reckon starting with a 250 or ~400 will be fine.I will either get some japanese sportbike 250-300´s or a 400 sumo.
>>1407032Non bike guy here, what causes that?
>>1415099tl;dr a tank slapper is a quick and repeating oscillation of the handle bars, usually caused by input on the bars (either by the rider or the road surface, or other external variable) while the front wheel is light, like during acceleration.The bike receives this input, and since the bike is a natural gyro, it tries to bring itself to its 'neutral' position (bars straight) but goes past the neutral position, and farther in the opposite direction. This is called negative dynamic stability. To fix a tank slapper, put more weight on the front wheel without putting any more input on the bars. Or, you can pop a sikk willie.
>>1415390lol,cop that dickhead
>>1411775>over-countersteerednot a thing
>>1408561but you sound american
>>1415562>not a thing>250 commuter tyre>get past 45 lean>slip off into the distance
>>1415734You'd be surprised how grippy the stock ex250 dunlops are, if you actually knew how to corner.
>>1415537Agreed, and give the rider a medal.
>>1408928Thank you to the anon who turned my crash into a webm. I bought a GSXR 600 a week later
>>1415747I had a dry rotting dunlop k630 in the front and a brand new shinko in the back. it was bad news all around.
>>1407045did he even try to turn?
>>1415903You guys realize you can almost always Google the file name for my posts (most posts are my posts) and find sauce.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-GfLydmTMY>>1415926Nope, target fixation.
>>1418553How did this guy save up enough money to buy a bike?This must be a troll webm :D
>>1408928Bet you wish you had some biker gear on you so you could commit to that corner eh? Didnt wanna scrape your elbows eh? Get the fuck out
>>1407902what are you 12
>>1419473What are you, a bootlicker?
>>1419426you are a failure of a rider.
>>1418553I've never driven a motorcycle. Is this easy to drop it like that?
>>1419665at a certain point all all you can do is put it down gently you cant stop it once its so far over
>>1419665Nah, you can recover with good legworkOr you could drop clutch and do an half assed foot down turnaround
>>1415571you learn English in 2nd grade continuously in Germany, almost everyone speaks good English here.
>>1413772I highly recommend not starting on a 125, especially not if you want a 125 because you think you can't handle anything bigger. Honestly, 300cc is the new gold standard for learners, and I recommend getting your first bike for as cheap as possible. But if you are set on getting a 125, I recommend a Grom, Rebel 125, Aprilia RS125 (that's a two stroke), or a Yamaha R125 (that's a four stroke). Pick your favorite style, basically.
>>1420446abs would have saved him>>1420011>>1420013ur2slo
>>1418553How hard is it to pick up a bike that's dropped? I don't ride, so I have no frame of reference for how much they weigh. Is it a one person lift or do you need another person to help?
>>1421038I can "dead-lift" my 400lb ex500 from its side to a standing position, but for heavier bikes, you need to do this to lift them:https://youtu.be/cEqrxg3kC9o
>>1421054'heavier bikes' meaning absolutely fucking massive 1300cc+ cruisers with a tare weight of 300kg+I can lift the 250kg GSX650F up from flat without doing that
>>1421067Yeah, that's why I said heavier bikes lolThat technique works with all bikes, but lifting it while facing it and "deadlifting" it depends on your personal bike and strength.
>>1421067Ayyy GSX650F stronk. Ive dropped mine in my shed. im only 53kg and I lifted it up back up easy
>>1420990cool but backing it in is done from downshifting and dumping the clutch
>>1421211>clutch in>click click>clutch out>skidzThat's exactly what I did
>>1420446Classic case of newb retard. When in doubt, throttle out. If that pussy would have released the brake and opened up the throttle, there would be no crash.Basic physics man. Then again, it's 3rd world trash, so nothing of value was lost.
>>1421038Pretty much what >>1421054 said. Any bike can be picked up alone, but sport bikes can be anywhere from 350 - 600lbs, and you'll be lifting most of that weight if you drop it. With a bike that weight 900lbs, you really do have to lift it with your legs.
>>1422274never underestimate the stupidity of driversnot saying it's the riders fault at all but when I see a car pulling out on an angle like that I just slow down because that exact thing is probably going to happen
>>1422274abs would have saved him
>>1422274i hope that's one of our sv650 anonsyou're an embarrassment to sv650s
>>1422446thissometimes this shit is predictable a f
>>1415103Always been called a death wobble when I've heard of it. I'll have to keep "tank slapper" in mind
>>1419665I've pulled up a 600lb cruiser before as it was going down. Losing a sportbike like that is kinda silly
>>1422255That's retarded. No throttle would have kept him safe, not increasing it... squid
>>1424610yeah just dont, fuck straya and fuck Europe
>>1422274he's driving too fast aswell
>>1424610One of many names. Tank slapper, death wobble, speed wobble, wobble, shimmy. They all mean the same thing.
>>1424610>>1425429its only a tank slapper if it throws you into the tankdeath wobble can happen without being a tank slapper
>>1427336That's not true. They're all different names for the same thing.
>>1425429God what a shit rider.
>>1419665>>1419869Unless you're small. Tippy toeing has cost me alteast 3 times to gently put my bike down.It's like getting you first dent on a parking lot
>>1427810I don't even understand how this happens. If I over-apply the brakes, my rear end just starts raising. At no point does my front tire want to wash out like that
>>1421038It's pretty fucking hard if you don't know how to lift them correctly or are weak. With that said, it will feel pretty easy if you're picking it up just after a crash when you have a bunch of adrenaline pumping.Source: crashed my 250 and picked it back up out of a ditch by the handle bars like it was some plastic toy from Walmart. Then I dropped my 250 while wrenching on it in my garage and I struggled A LOT to get the fucking thing back up
>>1422446thing is, you can see him anticipating the driver going the same way as him but then suddenly steer in to go across. i would have made the same mistake but i would most like slowed down enough to make a emergency stop until i just barely hit the car
>>1427962Must be weight thing. Just like you're unlikely to wash out with bicycle, if the bike and person are light, they lift away from ground.Also, might be your posture and reaction to braking. Maybe your body shifts forward heavily due to braking force, while others push away from handlebars.During the training I almost always activated ABS and skidded front on emergency braking exercise and only once, when i was so tired I let myself slip forward on seat my rear rised.
>>1427962his front tire lock up or somthing from what i can see
>>1427960M A N L E TANLET
>>1427960I almost tipped over once stopping on the side of a road because I didn't notice the road bed dipped away on that side
>>1428056had that once. i uluaslly get my toes down and if i slightly move to the side i want to stand i get my whole feet down. But that doesnt help at 45 lean angle at 0km/h
>>1422255Throttling would have done 2 things bad for him:1)increased his speed, and therefore increased his turning radius2)take the force vector between his tires and the road and point it NOT perpendicular to the path of travel, to the center of the turn, meaning that traction is wasted accelerating when it could be used for turningThe only reason braking during a turn is bad is because it uses traction to brake, when that traction could be used to make your turn tighter/keep you from skidding out. However throttling while you are failing a turn is even worse.
>>1422446>>1427975I think from the car's point of view, he checked both ways then started to leave the parking lot, then after he's committed the biker finished his left turn and appears on the street, but the car is not watching that lane anymore, and the motorcyclist is just going too fast. I can see in the webm that the car starts to leave the parking lot right as the biker finishes his turn and gets into the same lane of traffic of the car.
>>1428311I agree with this guy.Bike was going way to fast for a car doing shady shit driving like they are lost.Car is a shit person for pulling a weird ass u-turn or left to go around the divider. not really sure what to call it.heres a completely unrelated webm for a bumb
>>1428311First, I don't think the bike was going too fast. He's on a two-lane street and speed seems reasonable.Car making an illegal turn with apparently no turn signal on.
>>1430897What a Dip-shit cop!
>>1415100When you say SPEEDyou mean Amphetamines, right?
>>1430897Hope he gets shot next time he does that.
>>1425429Fully deserved. What a fuckwit.
>>1431037Had he been going a reasonable speed, he wouldn't have crashed into that car no matter what it was doing.
>>1430898Are this awkward normally?
>>1430897Why was the officer going after the biker anyways?
>>1430898what does she say right before "what are you driving?" i can't understand
>>1431544My guess is they were being assholes and the cop was trying to grab at least one of them
>>1431149That's not true at all. All it takes is the car to do something suddenly - which is exactly what he did. The rider was not, in any way, doing anything wrong.
>>1431722at least he kind of tried to look through the corner.>meep meep>>1430898what are you reading from your phone?>>1428311Honestly the car should have checked again before cutting across 2 lanes and the biker only got up to 32mph which likely wasn't speeding. The car would legally be at fault BUT if I were the motorcyclist in that situation I would have slowed down when the car started out with that weird maneuver just in case he did pull that so I could avoid it.
>>1431588What are you in, sir?
>>1432526What is this shit? Low res shots of some dude that doesn't talk to girls?
>>1431900>what are you reading from your phone?the order
Bump to the top with that sweet exhaust sound. Cause everything should sound this badass
>>1432529>Russian version of a rich neckbeard
>>1419665The first drop is hard to figure out. My best guess is he put his left foot out too far with the wrong footwear and lost grip, so the bike just fell out from under him.The second drop is easy to do, if you let the weight go past equilibrium to the opposite side of where you're walking the bike. Always keep the weight on your side of the bike, into your hip with your legs braced.
>>1435912not supposed to hit deer?>>1433872ded?
dakar racers confirmed for cantturns
>>1436891Just go full throttle.
>>1436894Is there really that much turning when you're just crossing a big ass desert?
>>1422274why would you not use your horn? this is exactly the situation it's for
>>1436956Reaction time. If I have the time to hit my horn button, I usually have enough time to maneuver away from the hazard instead. Probably thought the car was sticking to the right lane so he went left, then the car veered over for that u-turn
>>1436936yeah small deviations to avoid rough patches. even in sandy deserts you might want to take different lines over the terrain. the only place i have seen where you could go straight for as long as you wanted was just outside of coober pedy
>>1437025That was more than enough time to use the horn and maneuver or brake. If I see someone pulling out like that after I make a turn I hit the horn one or two quick times so they know I'm there and slow down a bit.
>>1411776marc marquez rides like an asshole and deserves every crash he's been in
>>1420011>>1420013i was honestly more interested in the ants at the edge of the road then the bike
>>1431544Stolen bikesWatch as he casually hops over to the other guy
>>1437704The rider was wearing a helmet cam. Why would a bike thief do that?
>>1437879Mad yootoobs money?Even scooter thieves in london have gopros now
>>1422446are you me?
>>1439683>7 revs before finally popping the clutchy
>>1440877had to generate enough smoke
pls dont die thred
>>1425429Why do people try to ride IRL like they are playing Grand Theft Auto?
>>1447635maybe that got them interestedworked for me but i dont ride lake a nonce
>>1425429had tuh layer down
>>1413772Take a 250cc or 300cc.I started on 250cc and If I had more money I would have bought a 300cc.(everythingis expensive here)
>>1422274No :( But I love the SVs
>>1422255Anyone who has taking any type of mc course knows that a emergency evade involves no throttle of breaking.On the other hand I was also thought that in an emergency if you're not sure what to do (or in a panic) just break as much as possible since lower speed means lesser chance of death.
>>1449572funny part is if he had just got to the right edge of his lane instead of trying to go around in the lane the car was turning into he might not have crashed
french dude was taking up a whole lane and complaining some of us passed too close n shit
>>1452391>frenchare americans this uneducated?
>>1449591you were taught wrong>lol i'm going too fast!>better smack those brakes>i started on a litre bike because i'm not a cuck like eurobeans>why am I lowsiding? I smashed the brakes like reddit told me to
>>1415390This one is hard to tell because so many riders are such huge pieces of shit that it might have been warranted.
>>1431722>he rider was not, in any way, doing anything wrong.The rider was not at fault, but he was doing shit wrong. When you see a lazy sunday driver pulling out just as you made a turn, you slow down. You drive defensively. And you also pick a lane and stick to it. The care will be held at fault for making a shit turn across those lanes without signalling. But when youre on two wheels out there , who is or isnt at fault doesn't cut it. You need to ride extra defensively, assume everyone else on the road is retarded (because they all are), and you need to take responsibility for your own safety.
>>1452391Given the jackass in the back revved while the dude is on the phone trying to summon a mediator, im going to guess youre all assholes, and you probably passed too close/fast
>>1452524he admitted his frenchness>>1452635dude revving was not involved in passing him. just wanted to antagonize him for hogging the lane and bitching.
>>1449572classic driver looking into the low sun and can't see the rider scenario
>>1452634No, he wasn't doing a single thing wrong. It's easy to say that you should be foreseeing every single possible outcome of every single vehicle interaction on the road, and it's easy to say that he should have seen the accident coming when you know it's going to happen. The fact is that, every single day you ride, you encounter scenarios that you never saw coming, and never could have seen coming; the only difference is that most of the time, nothing goes wrong. It's neither reasonable nor even remotely possible to expect people to constantly expect the worst of every single person on the road.If you want to pretend to be a perfect rider and say "I could have avoided that," fine, but that act will only last until you crash.
>>1452391Why be so confrontational? You're all on motorcycles a thousand times faster than his bicycle. Just pass him and go on about your day.Post video of the incident.Also I like to do keybangers when passing bicyclists.
>>1422255>>1424625This isn't even about the throttle. If he would have just fucking turned he would have gone right by, whether he was on the throttle or not.
>>1431722What is he yelling about? Did he go into a ditch and have water get into the engine or is he just upset he fell?I know nothing about motorcycles so I feel I'm missing something here.
>>1453077Destroyed his brand new exhaust
>>1453103The bike was straight piped.>>1453077He was just upset that he crashed. Crashing a motorcycle is a bigger deal than people think, you'll break fairings that can cost thousands to replace. Also the fact the the kid's dad bought him the bike (a shitty 250cc 1 cylinder starter bike).
>driving down a road>shit head motor cyclist going 20 fuck you miles per hour down a 45mph street>try to go around him>he speeds up>fine, get back in my lane>does the same shit, going 20mph>try to go around him again>he speeds up again>"chase" him into a jam>get right behind him>lay on horn for a good minute, inches away from himFuck all you entitled "adrenaline junkies" and get the fuck off the road if you are going to drive like grandmas. Bunch of pussy ass faggots.
>>1453281dunno mate, you couldn't overtake him. Are you sure it's not you that drives like a grandma?
>>1453281get a dash cam, record people like him, report them to the police, enjoy.People who intentionally impede traffic can be fined.
>>1453281>riding down road>traffic jam. cars lined up for miles>these guys are literally doing 0-5mph on a 70mph road>try to go around them>they swerve over to block me from passing in betweenfuck all you entitled "you have to wait in line like everybody else" cucks and just let us pass.
this thread is so wierd because I thought it'd be a super pro-biker militant thread but it's really just all videos of crashes, is /dbt/ usually like this?
>>1454052We have a regular thread on /o/ and /b/This one is for crash compilations or retarded vids
>>1453165I didn't realize that some motorbikes were so fragile and expensive to repair. You learn something new every day.
>>1454052If I was a biker I think I'd want to watch crashes, just to see what the others did wrong and try not to do it myself.
>>1454236Modern plastic clad hondas can get totaled just by scratches
>>1437537same road no ants
>>1454238That's what I do. Unfortunately I'd say 75% of the crashes I see aren't the motorcyclist's fault. I try to learn from the other 25%.
>>1452698Unless there is actual footage, i'll just assume the riders are assholes based on that interaction.
>>1452883No, idiot. I'm not saying i expect people to foresee every accident. But you should ride correctly and ride extra defensively.Imagine the car is pulling out. He sees the motorcycle turn the corner and drift into the far right lane. So he cuts across the right lane to make a turn from the left lane, not realizing that the rider corrected back into the left lane.What could a rider do to mitigate the risks of being involved in an accident like this? Slow down for one. Be more cautious around vehicles making turn - you can cry about whose at fault all day, but youre the one that's going to get hurt, so just don't give anyone else the benefit of the doubt. And you can stay in your lane and signal. Say what you want about the speed, but the lane drift is actually something he did wrong that could have directly caused the accident. Im not a perfect rider, no one is. But you do what you can, and you take responsibility for your own safety, even if the other guy is at fault. Accidents happen. THere are always risks. You mitigate them as best you can, and no matter what the situation, if you end up on the fucking ground you should be asking the question "what could i have done to avoid this"
>>1408928Why is always the idiot with sport bike?
>>1456900I retract what I said about him doing nothing at all wrong. I forgot he turned into the right lane, instead of the left lane. However, he signaled his change to the left lane. More importantly, the car signaled neither their lane change nor their turn, nor did they bother to look before doing either of those things. But I know that's not what we're arguing about.You missed my point with the last post; there are hundreds of potential incidents that we encounter every day and never notice, and many that we do notice we dismiss as not being a threat - that's exactly what the rider did here. He saw the car pulling out, and with the information he had available, he dismissed the car as an immediate threat because the car seemed to be continuing within traffic. It's easy to say that, because the car did something unusual, the rider should have taken special action, but that would be inappropriate just considering how many incidents we encounter every day. Eventually, something bad will happen, out of your control. It certainly doesn't help that the driver made that lane change and turn suddenly and quickly - too quickly to react effectively.You can't foresee everything.
>>1433865Oh, Brazil <3
>>1415092But it works in GTA v
>>1407045>Slows down during a turnHe had it coming. I don't pity him.
>>1454323Was expecting a Bumblebee instead of ants.
>>1456885>there are cars bullying me and they almost ran me over on the bicyclehe didn't have a problem with the bikers (until they rev bombed him)
>>1428057appropriate response anon, 10/10also> never go to /fit/
>>1458353>he's shorter than 180Unfuckable
Wow there are alot of soft handed dudes that claim they can operate equipment, Im not trying to sound like some alpha dick but i operate every kind of equipment from land sea and air, i have a private fixed wing license, a commercial helicopter license, pleasure craft license(not worth bragging about cause any monkey can get one online), I grew up on a farm so naturally i have my class 1 truck license and can operate any kind of tractor or combine under the sun, and ive been riding and racing dirt bikes since i was 9. I cant help but get upset when i see the actual softest nerdiest dude's go on rants like their fuckin experts and spout off advice like they know what the fuck their talking about. i dont know fuck about alot of stuff so i keep my mouth shut, maybe you should stick to the mouse and keyboard and let the men talk.
>>1460103you should probably take your own advice
No sound on this one.
>>1407051Wouldn't Ros get a penelty for cutting the corner?
>>1418553>Buying a super sport for your first bikeDead within the year.
>>1461050way too rich?
>>1460620maq pushed him off, so no. honduh contested the result but got told to fuck off
>>1460599what was the point
>>1462215Looks like some panic whiskey throttle and then locking up the handlebars.
>>1437523amen. fuck that faggot
>>1462563>>1437523>>1411776>mad>at the goat
>>1462983>>1464804why do these people always just shrug at the driver and not slap their shit
why do riders on the internet make up excuses for speeding and reckless driving?
>>1468263the 2nd webm, the whole line of cars got rear-ended by that work truck at the back. I imagine he thumb ups the guy in the car to let him know he's not injured. I think my first reactions in an accident would be 'am I hurt is anyone else hurt'
>>1452391why stand there arguing with dickheads? just carry on with your day.
>>1452635>everyone on a bike is an asshole because of one guy>even though the problem was with the car drivers>>1453001>I like to ruin my exhaust when passing bicyclistsIn all seriousness though, cops won't hesitate to pull you over for passing in a no passing zone in the twisties.
>>1425429never overtake on the right...
>>1454323dude would you stop posting your shitty webms please?
>>1468266My favorites are the ones who make excuses for target fixation.
>>1468311who me? or the cyclist
>>1461050Sounds like a bearing has gone bad in the motor.
>>1477642Why didn't he just stand
>>1477644>street tires on a dirt bikeDon't be confused anon, he's never ridden off road, likely has no concept of standing on a bike.
>>1477645those are knobby tires bro
>>1425429ABS would have saved him
>>1431900>what are you reading off your phoneit might be the guy from /fit/ that writes all that he's going to say when he orders food, writes down all the options like if he was living in a RPG
>>1465554>not hearding them back and naming yourself the cow whisperer
>>1468879...apart from when you live in England like me.
>>1468133>>1468775lol, why don't they just give up?
>>1415103>To fix a tank slapper, put more weight on the front wheel without putting any more input on the bars. Or, you can pop a sikk willie.What about pressing the rear wheel break?
>>1477644that's a normal pit bike. And it's hard to balance without turning if you've never tried before. Try to ride along a curb at 2mph.
>>1480670You could do that, since that will put weight on the front wheel. However, it will be less effective than leaning forward, and it will be difficult to manage to not lock your rear while leaning forward at speed, especially during a high-stress situation, like a tank slapper.
>>1480670>>1485662what the fuck? you put weight on the front with the front brake...
My first webm to post of my first ride on the new KTM
>>1452781>>1468263Why would you slap their shit?
>>1487823I'm >>1452781. I didn't say I would. Car driver was looking into the sun and didn't see the bike. Just an accident.
>>1491933Cover that rear brake homie
>>1487302Confirmed nobike. When you brake, regardless of which brake you use, it shifts weight forward, putting more weight on the front.Instead of taking the bus to school tomorrow, take your mom's boyfriend's bicycle, and only use the rear brake.
>>1493322Not him, but also nobike. Isn't the weight shifting forward when breaking just inertia? It's basic fucking physics, even nobikes should understand that.
>>1450671bikes always ride in the leeft part to not be pushed off the road
>>1418553It's a nice bike shame he drops it.
>>1492548don't just cover it. you have to physically use it as well
>>1407025Alright rip me a apart whats a good bike for starters decent price for decent bike
>>1460599Think he'd cooked himself there, too slow into the corner and couldn't lean enough to get the turn and if he'd turned the bars themselves he'd he'd have layed her down, natural target fixate and straight into panic mode. All about that entry and exit
>>1497338do you want a sport, or cruiser?