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a thread dedicated to fluffy ginger dogs with cat ears
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I appreciate the sentiment and intention, but I don't know how to make webms, so I can't help out here.

Foxes are cool. Have a good day.
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God these things are cute. Is there any effort within North America to domesticate them? I remember watching a documentary a while ago about some research team in Russia that was working on it.
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>>1880972
Someone needs to do a side-by-side of this fox and Geralt from Witcher 3. I swear he does nearly the same thing
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>>1880953
>research team in Russia that was working on it
They got domesticated foxes years ago, took them about 60 years to do it. Last I heard they were losing funding because of the economy.
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Foxes are wild animals and should be treated as such. Human and their novelty needs.
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>>1882366
How about you kill yourself, my dude?
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>>1882366
All domesticated animals and plants were once wild.
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>>1882366
Domesticated Foxes exist you retard.
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*autistic screeching*
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>>1883513
>REEEEEEE
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>>1883520
>>1875010
Between this shit and the mating calls, why the fuck do all fox vocalizations seem to make them sound like they're in absolutely agonizing pain
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>>1883523
The OP fox would sound a lot happier if its pitch was a bit lower. Foxes probably just have very short vocal chords.
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>>1883513
when /r9k/ get tired of posting frogs all day, i guess they'll move on to foxes
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>6th grade
>i am autistic
>have 2 friends
>act like robot to get friends
>"hello my name is XR-3-2-1 how may i serve you"
>realized speaking into a fan made me sound more robot-like
>get bored of this
>start insisting people call me "mr fox" after I read fantastic mr fox
>create my club "the fox alliance"
>several people join
>save up allowance to buy button machine to make member buttons
>buy pencils with "Fox alliance" on them
>last day of school, drive to a friend's house to give them to him
>won one of those swishing clocks that display a "floating" message as well as the time
>still have it 12 years later
>it still occasionally brings up shit like "mr fox he rox" and "fox alliance!" because I never bothered to change it
My parents also bought me a ton of stuffed foxes cause they figured I liked them. Still have them to this day even though I obviously haven't tried to get people to call me that since I was 12.
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fox girls a best girls
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>>1884256
Sauce??????????????????
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>>1884281
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>>1884148
nice post mr fox
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Oh my god foxes are the cutest thing.
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>>1875011

its not jumping on the bed its trying to stun "underground" vermin
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>>1884119
>when /r9k/ get tired of posting frogs all day
never gonna happen
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>>1875010
wtf I want a pet fox now
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>>1888379
Foxes are dogs on fast forward.
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>>1883513
It's so cute how she goes "Uh oh. Oh my gosh."
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>>1887485
Firefox has encountered a problem with Windows?
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>>1891400
Oh, fuck off. I can't believe I fell for this stupid shit.
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bump because interested
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>>1885004
that's why it's funny
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>>1884281

Yu Yu Hakisho iirc
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Anybody have Garbage?
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>>1896852
plenty of ylyl threads on the catalog
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>>1880969
Is that from Antichrist?
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Miyagi Zao fox village in Japan
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Do you need a permit or anything to own a fox
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>>1892264
They are like canine mixed with mustelid
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>>1902064
depends on what state you live in
in GA i don't think you can have one as a pet at all
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>>1891400
Bravo.
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>>1902064
Tagging onto >>1902162

Some states disallow certain exotic animals altogether, but I don't think there's any state you can (legally) own a fox without at least a permit of some kind. Even the Russian domesticated foxes require permits to have.
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>>1883513
>that foxxo who's like "oh jesus, not this shit again"

Lold
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>>1875011
>"wtf kind of snow is this guise? Wheres the mouse?"
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>>1900066
a little too smug for my taste
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I can understand why people find these to be cute, but they can do some of the most horrendous shit and be a major burden to livestock and native ecosystems.

I'll happily put a bullet in Reynard whenever possible
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>>1904331
>but they can do some of the most horrendous shit and be a major burden to livestock and native ecosystems.

>native ecosystem

They BELONG in their native ecosystem. That's why it's their fucking native ecosystem. How fucking stupid do you have to be to not get this?
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>>1904336
https://www.environment.gov.au/system/files/resources/1910ab1d-a019-4ece-aa98-1085e6848271/files/european-red-fox.pdf

In case you can't be bothered reading (since you don't seem to be the smartest person around that's more than likely the case)
Here are some key quotes

>The fox has played a major role in the decline
of ground-nesting birds, small to medium sized
mammals such as the greater bilby, and reptiles
such as the green turtle. While land use change is cited as one of the key reasons for decline in many native species, predation by foxes has also been a significant contributor to native animal decline and continues to undermine recovery efforts for threatened species as the malleefowl, the bridled nail-tail wallaby and the night parrot.

>The fox causes significant economic losses to
farmers by preying on newborn lambs, kid goats
and poultry.
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>>1904345
No, maybe if you could be bothered to read (since you don't seem to be the smartest person around that's more than likely the case), you would realise that AUSTRALIA is not their NATIVE ecosystem you fucking dumbass. He said they belong in their native ecosystem. He is right. They were introduced to Australia by European settlers, hence they are not in their native ecosystem and thus fuck up the balance.

If you're going to try to act smart in correcting someone, particularly by telling them to read, perhaps you should do it yourself first.
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>>1882350
Wasnt that just a side effect of creating a more docile fox to keep and harvest its fur

Also interesting because they found the fur colour was in direct correlation with aggressiveness. Blacks and greys were more calm and reds were more angery. No wonder I never saw the documentary on TV
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>>1904331
Well when you destroy their habitats and hunt down all of their natural prey of course they turn to alternatives. It's not like they are nearly as destructive as humans, except putting a bullet in the most destructive creature on this planet is generally looked down upon.
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>>1904440
Why don't you help the planet out and off yourself then? We'll all follow your example. I promise.
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>>1904410
But he didn't say that did he?
He tried to correct something that didn't need correcting, Foxes do affect native ecosystems to which they themselves are not native too, particularly Australia. I am right.

>you would realise that AUSTRALIA is not their NATIVE ecosystem you fucking dumbass

It doesn't take a genius to get that's what is already implied by the link I provided.
Besides, did I imply they should be eradicated even from their native habitats? You can't really paraphrase things into a completely different meaning.

>>1904440
This is mainly in the context of Australia and other environments that they are introduced to. But even in places to which they are native, you can't ignore economic damage to farmers when foxes take poultry and new-born lambs.


Often people excuse these things as "well it's our fault as humans for the current situation" and of course this is true.
Which is why it's our responsibility to clean up our mess, not to just leave them be.
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>>1902064
I don't understand this question. You are essentially asking "can I raise an animal without knowing how to care for and train in properly?"
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I love foxes. This summer past a family of young foxes would pass my window every night. It was lovely to see them so young and curious. I hoped one would be hit by a car so I could collect its pelt, but no luck.
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>>1898456
Ugh... Yeah, it is.
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>>1902100
>mustelid
You spelled "mustard" wrong, are you in 1st grade or something?
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>>1906369
I refuse to believe you're actually this stupid, anon. I expect more from you.
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>>1888395
This is an unbelievably apt description
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>>1904977
>thinking a permit has anything to do with knowing something and isn't just a way for the government to tax you
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>>1906888
>being a retard
tell me about getting your driver's permit
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>>1906902
This at least started as pretty okay bait, but you ruined it. It was never particularly abstract, but this is the only bait gif I have on me
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>>1906150
That house looks like it belongs to a hoarder-in-training.
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>>1906691
zorro caca
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>>1906150
noice
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>>1902279
Nevada's laws are very very lenient. I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't need a permit for a fox in NV
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>>1906150
>chinese dog dies after having last laugh
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>>1906707
U dum
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>>1908283
Good bit. You gave me many much hoot
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>>1902064
You don't want a pet fox. Their urine is VERY pungent (they evolved to mark their territory).
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>>1891400
top kek. Also, dubs noticed.
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>>1906888
Don't you pay tax for having dogs as well?
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>>1882366
Foxes can and have been domesticated.
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>>1908283
Almost.
>Chinese dog dies after having rast raugh
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>>1875010
What does the fox say?
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>>1885004
Well, bed bugs *are* vermin.
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>>1882350
And apparently, the domestication process took out a lot of the "fox" qualities.
>Ears becomes floppy
>Panting became more common
>Some hunter instincts degraded
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>>1875013
Do you think they bond over being gingers?
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>>1880953
Here in Oregon, just simply having a pet fox is illegal. Licensed or not.

Surprised it took anyone on this Earth to start domesticating them. These things are like the perfect mix of a cat and dog.
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Not a webm, but I'd be gratified if some kind anon could make it into one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWZuGMpxu-E
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>>1906145
fennecs are weird
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>>1883523
>Walking dog through the woods one late december evening
>Hears screaming woman behind me
>Literaly sounds like a woman being stabbed to death

Nah fuck foxes man, the sounds they make...
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>>1910470
So they basically become dogs.
>>Some hunter instincts degraded
But they still hunt rats and mice, just like cats, right?
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>>1875013
I guarantee some people jerk themselves into unconsciousness to this thing. Not me, not you, but someone does it.
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>>1915189
That's what you have a problem with? Fucking /d/ is a tame kindergarten to some shit on the internet and you have a problem with a not-quite-beautiful woman?

Or do you mean the fox?
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>>1915193
not really a problem, just thought about it, them both being red and shit
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>>1882366
>Human and their novelty needs.

Did you just refer to your entire species in the third person?
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>>1915206
He is an enlightened euphoric who has turned his back towards the simple-minded sheep of society. Thus he abstains from labelling himself merely "human".
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>>1906707
Oh boy are you dense.
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>>1908608
You can have that gland that produces it removed. It's not particularly dangerous.
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>>1910450
cancerous overused maymay
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>>1916538
silly nips, foxes don't bark, they give of the sound of the apocalypse
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>>1918137
they sometimes sound like babies crying and it's the creepiest fucking thing to hear at night on a camping trip
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>>1902064
aren't these like unleashing tornados on your house? Or maybe that was raccoons
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>>1916538
Fuck off, I can't believe that made me laugh
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>>1906146
Bamboozled again
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bump
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>>1875010
CHAOS REIGNS
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>>1904977
>you need a permit for common sense and the ability to Google stuff if needed
Found the European.
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>>1926502
horo is a wolf
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>>1926580
then why does it look like a fox?
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If my memory serves me right, her hair color represents wheat and autumn when wheat is harvested. But she's a wolf.
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>>1929357
Cancer
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>>1929379
It made me laugh but only because I hadn't heard those sound effects in a decade
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>>1908608
Domesticated foxes don't have this problem. At least, not as bad. It's like cat piss apparently.

>>1918584
They dig A LOT. So it's always advised to have a large sand pit for them.
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>>1904417
I thought it started from them tying to domesticate wolves?
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>>1929637
That is so cute.
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>>1929239
Foxes are just smol wolves anyways
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>>1934761
>>1929637

Why are fox lovers always furries.
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>>1906145

Arai-saaaaaan
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>>1915322
Oh I know what you meant.

You just weren't funny.
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>>1910470
Domestication of the foxes caused neoteny; they exhibit features of juveniles when full grown.
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>>1880953
Yeah, they're called fucking dogs. You can get one right now.
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>>1935610
domesticated foxes are nothing like dogs you retard
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>>1935815
yes
this pouncing for example is very distinct fox behavior
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>>1904977
>>1904977
Are you so fucking cucked you think you need a permit to have a dog?
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>>1902064
Alabama - Not legal for any species of Fox
Alaska - Not legal for any species of Fox
Arizona - Not legal for any species of Fox
Arkansas - All species legal (There are laws listed for obtaining one though)
California - Not legal for any species of Fox
Colorado - Not legal for any species of Fox
Connecticut - Not legal for any species of Fox
Delaware - All species legal
Florida - All species legal
Georgia - Not legal for any species of Fox
Hawaii - Not legal for any species of Fox
Idaho - Not legal for any species of Fox
Illinois - All species legal
Indiana - All species legal
Iowa - Not legal for any species of Fox
Kansas - Not legal for any species of Fox
Kentucky - Yes, but you cannot import and there are no breeders.(So its really a no)
Louisiana - All species legal
Maine - All species legal
Maryland - Not legal for any species of Fox
Massachusetts - Not legal for any species of Fox
Michigan - All species legal (Permit required for any red phase)
Minnesota - Not legal for any species of Fox
Mississippi - All species legal
Missouri - All species Legal
Montana - Not legal (have heard of loopholes, talk to a DNR officer)
Nebraska - All species legal
Nevada - Not legal for any species of Fox
New Hampshire - Not legal for any species of Fox
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>>1936278
New Jersey - Not legal for any species of Fox
New Mexico - Not legal for any species of Fox
New York - Only legal for Fennec Foxes
North Carolina - All species legal
North Dakota - All species legal
Ohio - All species legal
Oaklahoma - All species legal
Oregon - Not legal for any species of Fox
Pennsylvania - Yes, but you have to jump through hoops that end with the PCG not giving out permits anymore (so its really a no)
Rhode Island - All species legal
South Carolina - Not legal for any species of Fox
South Dakota - All species legal
Tennessee - All species legal
Texas - Not legal for any species of Fox
Utah - Native only
Vermont - Not legal for any species of Fox
Washington - Not legal for any species of Fox
Washington DC - Not legal for any species of Fox
West Virginia - Not legal for any species of Fox
Wisconsin - All species legal
Wyoming - Native only
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>>1906151

does anyone else realize how godlike that fennec's reactions and tracking skills are
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>>1934879
Because you're dumb enough to fall for that.
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>>1929357
Anyone got the original video? That fox sounds cute as hell
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>>1896852
Oh yeah, stamper's stray fox(es?) I forgot about that boi. Wonder if he got any healthier.
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>>1936377
i was thinking the same
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>>1929379
t. joyless autist
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>>1882350
>took them about 60 years to do it
wow that fast?
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>>1902064
wild animals are not pets you dumb fucking retards.
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>>1877025
Read the sticky with 4chan's webm maker. You will learn in less than 5 minutes.
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>>1906151
DOG DOESNT STAND A CHANCE
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>>1938792
Domesticated foxes aren't wild animals you retard. There are entire breeds of foxes that have been domesticate for decades now and were already docile after a few years of breeding.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domesticated_red_fox

The foxes pictured here are Russian domesticated red foxes pictured in the wikipedia article and are not wild animals.
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>>1904417
that was belyaev's cover to get the government to pay for his research on domestication, the soviets were super anti-eugenics and wouldn't have supported his experiments otherwise
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holy shit my kings cavallier acts just like a fox
thanks for the gifs
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>>1883513
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0Z44BIDPPc
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>want pet fox
>illegal where I live

How do I get one anyway
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>>1939590
find a breeder in a nearby state where they're legal since cytology doesnt sell to america anymore
dont walk them when other people are walking their dogs or see them get taken by animal control and put down
do shittons of research in what goes into caring for one before buying one because they're a lot more work than most people think
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>>1884337
My fucking ears...
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>>1938938
furries get out
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>>1904503
>I try to be the smart 4chinner but I'm really just a cunt

That's the jist of your tldr shitposting. Now fuck off.
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>>1936279
what about virginia faggit
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>>1906147
What's that thing in the water?
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>>1941730
looks like some kind of flailing fish
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>>1891400
That meme is older than me
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>>1923585
Fugg, I remember hearing those all the time when I lived in NH.
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>>1875011
>>1944617
So... a pet fox will basically do that to all white bedsheets and couches and stuff in your house?
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>>1945180
have you ever put your hand under a blanket when playing with a dog? It's the same thing, they just pounce because of their instinct
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>>1915193
there's furverts everywhere, mang
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>>1875010
I just had 11 geese massacre from these shits. Extra points for webm with sound of foxes getting slaughtered.
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>>1947796
autism
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>>1906691
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>>1936278
>Massachusetts - Not legal for any species of Fox
fuck
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>>1884148

Nice try, Mr.Fox. Your fellow co-workers and I can confirm for all the anons that this is in fact what you had us print on your nametag.
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>>1888395
both dogs and foxes belong to the Canine family
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>>1957699
>that one fox who tries to climb into the bucket
lost
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>>1957949
Mange anon
Scabbies are skin fleas
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>>1936078
My Shepard/Lab mix does this
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>>1929637
I think im a furry now
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>>1880972
>u fokn wot m8
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>>1947796
Honks are just niggers with feathers anyways, be glad smol catdoggos took care of them for you.
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>>1963696
Congratulations
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>>1884337
>extremely loud
>english dub

just get out fucking hell
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Why were foxes never domesticated?
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>>1964175
no point, we already had dogs for hunting large game and cats for pest control
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>>1910470
Don't forget the part where they whimper for human attention and literally piss themselves when petted.
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>>1938814
Yeah, and those are domesticated foxes in true sense of the word, the end result of generations of selective breeding to reduce aggressiveness and increase fondness of humans. A tamed wild animal even if reared from young is still a wild animal and such its behaviour is unpredictable to say the least.
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why would someone want to get a retarded dog
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>>1884256
[spoiler]First waifu[/spoiler]
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>>1923585
me being someone who never heard these i would be terrified if i hear them
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>>1964507
I live in Northern VA and the first time I heard them I grabbed my bigass maglight and started sprinting around my neighborhood looking for a rape in progress.
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>>1963696
Nothing wrong with it desu
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>>1875010
aww
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>>1964025
>watching yu yu hakusho in japanese

sup normie
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>>1957699
Jesus fuck.
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>>1875010

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v1zf4kCyBA
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>>1884148
I'm convinced at least a few cults and political movements through history were just autistic roleplaying that got out of hand.
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>>1884256
>>1884337
Its too bad she and lizard girl didnt play a more prominent role in the story.
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>>1965305
What is that? Is this a Pelevin adpatatiomn?
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>>1936078
>>1963479
this
my first aussie shepherd pounced flashlight / laser dots, and anything scurrying through the garden
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>>1957699
Them niggas is crazy b
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>>1938938
Drink bleach
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>>1969289
Yes.
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>>1936278
>>1936279
>New York - Only legal for Fennec Foxes
Any particular reason why?
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>>1970300
I love stamper so much
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>>1882366
PETA is a terrorist organization
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>>1970300
That fox had rabies and scabies. You can get quarantined for both.
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>>1970305
>Before the animal ban was finalized in NYS, fennec fox owners brought their pets to meet legislators and with the truth that at least some exotic pets aren’t so bad staring them in the face, this species was exempted.
Cuz they are TOO FUCKING KEWT TO BAN:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCCA0hAJy90
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>>1936239
I wish you needed a permit to own a pitbull.
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>>1963243
Yeah, which they scratch off from their tail along with the fur.
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Are foxes just weeaboo dogs??
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>>1888379
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>>1936279
What about Virginia, we not good enough for you
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>>1979599
special permit for exotic breeds red and gray foxes are seen as domestic animals and can only be owned for fur farming purposes
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>>1972487
Why do a lot of animal videos dub over the audio with some gay ass music, I fuckin hate it
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>>1880953
Started in 1959 when Russian zoologist Dmitry Belyayev became interested in how wolves were domesticated; he chose foxes due to their similarity. He bred for one group for tameness and another for aggression. After 40 generations they had created a stable population of tame foxes, but when the soviet union collapsed they had to sustain the lab by selling fox furs (I believe they sold the pelts of the aggressive foxes) but now they sustain themselves by selling domesticated foxes instead.
So yes the program still exists today, I imagine that's ultimately where these foxes in the webms came from. I'm not aware of any other countries attempting to domesticate foxes (it was meant to be an experiment rather than a business).
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>>1916538
lost
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Bump for more foxes
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>>1883513
me on the left
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Fuck mother fucking foxes.
I had one gnaw on me in my sleep to see if I was dead.
He stole one shoe later that night just to piss me off.
The fuck kept returning to my camp even after I had beaten him with sticks.
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>>1915189
Yeah I fucking do.
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>be florida fag
>work on the beach
>leaving my shift one night and see a big fluffy fucker dash into the shadows
>shit my pants

>weeks later working in the morning
>walking down the boardwalk and see two babby foxes trotting along until they see me and run into the bushes

I had no idea foxes even lived in Florida let alone a beach. I hear they eat turtle eggs though so I see how
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>>1965305
Got a uh source on that Anon?
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>>1936279
Tennessee marches on as the best state.
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>>1990036
With Oklahoma following as a pretty OK state. Best states reporting in.
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>>1918613
me too anon, me too. you just don't see it coming. and then, there it is, "Bark!".
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Another day, another underage group of furfags fantasizing over a shitty pet they wouldn't be able to properly take care of. Keep them in the fucking wild where they belong.
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>>1885004
I clearly see a fox jumping on a bed >.>
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>>1993312
yeah we should've done that with your kind centuries ago
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>>1961828

no shit
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>>1938758

Trying to undo a millennia of evolution isn't as fast making a cunt out of yourself on the internet.
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>>1979938

it's pacing or scoring or some shit. You use a score that is appropriate to the scene. Fluffy kittens and Children of Bodom wouldn't seem right.

People making videos also tend to use either the native sample audio in whatever program they're using or shitty stock music thats free for a reason.
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>>1936278
>Kansas - Not legal for any species of Fox
FUCK
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>>1968705
Lizard girl. She was a fish bitch.
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>>1906150
>[Feel Good Inc starts playing]
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>>1970300
i like that he has a garage door in his room. pretty cool actually.
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>>1970300
you don't have to tell me what happened. You just need to eat this chicken.
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>>2004244
he is living out of a storage space
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>>1968678
That is actually a very apt explanation of the KKK. It was just a fraternity order of confederacy vets that was mimicking Freemason groups and did crazy rituals and initiations for the lulz essentially. Then some newer members kept thinking there was more hidden purpose and meanings behind it all and it spiraled from there. It got disbanded and broken apart and then decades later some autist film maker who REEEEE'd at all the normie black lovers made a film glorifying his autistic vision of the KKK and the rest is history.
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>>1918137
they know foxes don't bark, it's the joke. IIRC that fox is implied to be some kind of intelligent spirit fox or something, he knows they are expecting a 'kon kon' so he goes 'wan/woof' instead to troll them.
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>>1929357
This made my 7 y/o sister laugh
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>>1910382
Chinese can't pronounce 'r'.
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>>1918584
Nah, that's ravens. Incredibly smart, incredibly curious. I've heard stories from raven owners saying they have to change the lock on their bird's cage daily because they always figure out how to open it and inevitably go around the house OohWhatsThis-ing everything they can get their beaks on.
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>>1936279
>North Dakota - All species legal
Fuck yeah. Gonna find me a pet fox friend.
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>>1978451
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>>1972431
it had mange.
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>>1906145
MY GOD THEY'RE EVERYWHERE
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>>1906150
i've watched this on loop for the past 10 minutes. it's like really good CGI.
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>>1999590
Maybe the fox DOESNT like this shaking motion and is stunned with a confused "smile" on its face...
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>>1938792
PITA is a terrorist organization.
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>>2012051
why don't you go ahead and tell us what that acronym stands for, anon
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>>2012062
People for the Illegal-Touching of Animals.
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>>1884337
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>>2012983
I would love to know the anime, what's the name anon?
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>>2013133
YuYuHakusho.
Fox grill is not important at all, but it's still a really good anime for the most part.
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>>1936278
>Michigan All species legal (Permit required for any red phase)

Noice
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>>2013147
Thanks
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>>2004244
>>2006547
This was when Stamper and co were running Sleepycabin, they worked from there but it had some capacity for living too. Unfortunately as of a couple years ago,they've mostly gone their separate ways again.
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>>1936278
>>1936279
FOR THE LAND OF THE FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>2001943
You have proven your point.




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