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7 days for the truth to come out - what works, what doesn't. Which magick is a waste of time, which is worth your while.

3-month rituals are BS. Real magick is FAST. You don't need circles, banishing or to be afraid of the dark. This thread is to prove that.

Your homework assignment is - from May 16 to May 23, YOU WILL DO NEW AVATAR POWER. No need to buy books or even download pdfs. Grab the lines (posted a link below, but you can google it yourself) read them aloud in 6 minutes, call it a day. Repeat the process the next day, around the same time, same words.


Most of you will see results in day 2 or 3. Everyone will have something happen by day 5. So whenever it happens, post here which subject you chose, what you felt and what happened. Next week, a different assignment.

Now go:

http://thefoolspeaks.com/showthread.php?t=609

(p.s.: Don't waste your time reading the replies, speculation and added shit by the ritual fags, stick to the bare minimum if you want results)
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>>19018876
are you the same OP that made the old thread? yea it was mysteriously deleted...

There was also some weird cursing going on, I kinda wanted to know what was up with that.
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>>19018876
I noticed it was deleted too. It's archived on 4plebs though.
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be careful with this shit, a popular youtuber of latinamerica made a video talking with a guy that practice this new avatar power stuff, he said that work, he got a nice job and shit, but he also said that this "power" take something away from you, in his case his mother or his grandmother i dont remember, died, so think it twice, sorry for bad english
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>>19019217
Yes that's usually the consensus on this type of stuff, but why does always have to be a "monkey paw"? you get what you want... but something HORRIBLE will happen in return! and in the end YOU DIE!

Like seriously, what's the reason for anything like that to exist? can't we have moderate results with moderate consequences? it always goes to the scary shit realm of people dying and your life ruined.

Why are this prayers a fucking trap? who benefits from it? can't they just be straightforward and ask for what they want in return?
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>>19018876
Just did the first one. Will report back if I get results within the week.
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>>19019265
The consequences/price only get outrageous if yo are attempting to gain something equally outrageous. Want to be a multi-millionaire? Better be ready to cough up something you value just as much! Want to have a long, fulfilling life? You might need to loose a number of cherished pets along the way. Nothing is free, it never has been and never will be. But if you just want to get laid soon or something, then the cost for that should be pretty mundane. Maybe your tire will blow out, or something.
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>>19019594
But does the price have some sort of universal equity? or does it revolve around how significant it is to the person asking?

I mean for someone who already has a car, getting a new one might be really nice, but for someone who has never had one and has lived riding a bike for years it's going to be like a virgin who pops her cherry in a gang bang.

I have very mundane petitions, basically I even think all I want is to be normal, like most of the people I see around me. But at some point I believed that was so mundane and insignificant I tried to set myself away from it, and now that I'm stranded in this awkward as fuck lifestyle after running away of a "mundane" life I'm recurring to something as odd as the paranormal to make it happen, and every second that passes I feel I'm getting away from it even more.

So what I meant is, I may ask for something that is small or simple, but for me it may be of massive worth, would that fuck me up big time in the end?
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can someone tell me if this is dangerous?
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>>19019594
>Better be ready to cough up something you value just as much!

Yeah, I don't understand this exactly if it's even true. Maybe your subconscious has an attachment to certain patterns that are creating your experience of life. When you successfully perform magic, those patterns have to change in order to make room for the new patterns which will bring you what you desire.

When one thing changes, it's unpredictable how everything else will shake out because everything is connected to everything else. Your relationships are related to your personality which is related to your career which is related to your health etc. There is always a percentage chance that any change in your life will be undesirable. I see no reason why they should be in equal measure except that if you want some massive desirable result, then your life is going to change much more dramatically than if you just wanted some small thing. Also, since we are attached to our comfort zone often times pain is required to motivate us out of a stuck pattern.

For example if you want to become a multi-millionaire and are currently a lazy bum, then you are going to have to become a completely different person to get that result. All kinds of hell is going to break loose in your life to change all the conditions that are currently keeping you a broke lazy bum. If however you are already a millionaire business owner and you want a few more million, then much less change will take place so less headaches will be required.

Maybe the "cost" of a spell is just the extent of change required for your desired result.

Even if your family doesn't "die" from a spell, maybe they leave anyway when you end up working 100 hours a week to become a millionaire. Or the stress from the job causes you health problems. The tire blows out because you're distracted when driving because you're thinking about work instead of the road. Grandma dies from a broken heart because you never call her back. Cause and effect.
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OP here.

mods deleted the thread, probably mad about what was said about ritual magick and fearfulness.

there's nothing dangerous about it. some stories say the "names" reportedly can be kind of cunts on how they go about your request, but personally, my experience is that the results are DIRECTLY related to your limiting beliefs about your wish. never had ANY issues.

so if you really are afraid and want to cover your ass, THINK about your wish.

for example, if you are an ugly dude and think low of your yourself, maybe you should ask for constant improvement in attractiveness instead of a model GF right away (personally, I just ask what I want anyway).

I have NEVER had backlash from NAP, but I understand why some people are worried and probably mixing the stories or expecting the same backlash they hear about other magick types.
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Did my first ritual. 20 minutes total including recording in journal. I went very slowly and deliberately.

Six more to come.
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>>19020436
may ask what did you wish and what did you get?
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>>19018876
I'll ask the same thing I did in the last thread before it disappeared.

In doing this stuff:
>what must you avoid;
>what are some common pitfalls or traps;
>how do people usually fuck up?
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Can someone who did this ritual describe in depth who you did it. Because I am confused about the first part where you are supposed to hypnotize yourself to trance but you are reading the text though, so you can't really let go.
But then you are supposed to break it anyway to read your wish.
I did it yesterday but I am afraid I am doing it wrong.
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>>19019952
I agree--last time I mathed it out, what every person has is enough to sustain their wildest dreams of excitement and passion for all eternity. That's at "zero." The only way to deviate from that is to desire the concept of less than zero in the first place, which locks the universe into a sort of negative feedback loop, as it oscillates between paradoxical perspectives. From this comes circular time.

At its core though, the primary mode of existence is a recursive positive feedback loop. "Zero" is actually e^x, and anything else modifies a coefficient of x to create the perception of time. It can only be this way, because if the nature of the universe was to have an opposite pole to every expression, then the opposite pole of THAT very expression is unitary force with no polarity, represented by the fibbonaci sequence.

f(x+1) = f(x) + f(x-1) : Unitary, Positive Feedback
f(x+1) = f(x) - f(x-1) : Polarity, Negative Feedback
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>>19019634
If you want to be a regular guy again, why not just begin by doing regular stuff?
How far away from being normal can you set yourself that you want to use magic to change it?
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I asked for money multiple times, a job and help with legal issue. Got them all. I once asked for a "glass" apartment just to see what would happen, and a billboard for a expensive glass apartment was put up in my street. Maybe if I believed it would come to me more would have happened.

Pitfalls, traps, issues... All are the same - your fears and limiting beliefs are the only thing stopping you. As long as you have an idea of your fears and what YOU believe is possible then you can ask for things that WILL happen every time. Like, I can ask for 100 extra bucks every week and I know I will get it.

The trance, you just need to relax the best of your ability. Read slowly and chiling, calmer and calmer. Then relax, and when you feel super calm, go to the subject you chose.

DON'T sweat the details, guys. Don't worry about pronunciation, speed, whatever. Just relax, and say the same lines from the same subject your 3-7 days until you get results, around the same time if possible. NAP is the most laidback magick possible. You won't be pissing off anyone or anything.
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>>19020749
I don't want to blog, but let's say at some point i gave up on everything after finishing my career, was burned out and all my friends had moved on to have normie lifes, so i spent the last 10+ years doing nothing and avoiding contact with most people. I'm a useless sack of worthlessness, can't get a job because I have no experience, I have very limited social skills, haven't had contact with a female during all this time and obviously that has built up a massive frustration.

I'm only surviving because I'm a leech, but I know sooner or later that will be over, and it will only go downhill after that. I know the typical, little by little you can become better... sure thing, but that will never happen, if it didn't happen in all this time I'll just fall down after making very small progress. Sorry I need to stop ranting because it's pretty offtopic.
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>>19020769
Thanks for the response.

Limiting beliefs and fear are an issue, and from what I've seen, you will be tempted in all sort of ways, herein lies the danger. So, how do you deal with those? And how do you stop a cascade of negative thoughts (apart from not letting them in in the first place?

From my own experience, getting to a high point and fucking up will greatly amplify the fuckup.
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>>19020796
You weren't doing what you really wanted, and are still waiting for it. It sucks, a lot, but sometimes life has to force you to lose everything you think you value to guide you in the right way.
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>>19020810
Negative thoughts are a part of life, it is how you react to them that makes the difference.
This isn't even from a magic perspective, I've got stress induced anxiety and after I changed how I react to negative thoughts, they've lessened and don't impact me as much.
It's basically a matter of accepting they are there, judging whether or not the supply you with anything of value and then putting them aside for later if you are doing something else you'd rather do.
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So I tried this yesterday and obv have seen no results of any kind, but I had the worst night's sleep in a long time. Related?
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>>19020889
I see, thank you.
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>>19021046
No problem, sharing my knowledge of how to deal with negative thoughts, is part of how I deal with my own negative thoughts.
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As someone with no income, except for Food Stamps and GA once a month, I will try this for the money shot. Figured this would be the most noticeable. If thread exists then, will post results.
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Is there a big difference between

1.- asking for love in general, like be more desirable, and/or meet someone willing to love you with no expectations
2.- asking for love from a specific type of person, like I want a redhead with a massive butt, I want her to be rich, I want her to be loyal, I want her to be a nympho etc.
3.- asking to be loved by a specific person that you don't really know much (like a random platonic crush that you always liked but barely crossed words or never crossed words)
4.- and asking to be loved by a specific person that you actually know or knew in the past? like a girl that friendzoned you, but in the grand scheme of things it was not unlikely she would stop doing that and open her legs eventually.

Will the backlash be different from those types of requests? or more or less the same?
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Do you feel something during the ritual?
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>>19019335
Me again. I just don't want the thread to archive. 2nd day down.
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>>19022371
can we know what you asked for?
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>>19021603
As long as you're asking, and not betting your sanity against the outcome, the only backlash is it potentially not working.

Other than that, the backlash is of amplitude and frequency equal to the specificity of your request. As for what frequency various specific objects are equal to, those are based on your own perspective. If the frequency of a red headed woman with an enormous round butt is something you only see on the internet, then you can more easily shift that frequency to a perception of physical reality, if you simultaneously reduce the amplitude of seeing that frequency on the internet.

The backlash happens if you demand it to be so--at which point either your sanity breaks, or forces of the world around you demand that you quit looking at porn, in order to have the motivation to find her in the physical world. But all the while, both the pushing and the pulling are done from the one who does the demanding.

Asking just means waiting until the world around you has what you're looking for.
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>>19022461
You make it sound like it's only a mind trick, and there's 0 hocus pocus occult stuff about it.

I do have reached conjectures similar to those, but I'm glad to be reading them from someone else.

But my question is, if that's all there is to it, why the whole weird names and VEE- ZEE- QUAK- MEK- LOK DUK FRAG-DOM-ITITAZ and things like that? wouldn't it be easier to just do like a mantra, or literally repeat what you want like a thousand times to do some kind of subconscious programming?

Thanks for being so thorough before, I appreciate it.
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>>19022785
All magic is just mnemonics, to give people a tool without needing to understand the entire weird physics behind why certain rituals have efficacy.

This is usually for good reason--the physics that go into manifesting true love and everlasting happiness are essentially the same hyperdimensional vibratory mechanics that can be used to synthesize anti-matter weaponry. But when dressed up in a love spell, people don't need to weaponize their minds in order to get the part that interests them.

You can use whatever mantras work for you. Just remember to forget what they are, so that the world can remind you of them again later, as a clue of where to put your awareness next in order to find it.
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Second ritual completed. Total time 15 minutes. My ritual is for health. For some reason I had a bad stomach ache randomly start an hour or two before the ritual and persist. During the silent section of the ritual I began spontaneously rubbing the front of my body which caused my stomach to churn and relax. I happened to read something earlier that day about how actors must always subconsciously be engaged in the process of physical relaxation. As I went to sleep I imagined myself being given a massage to relax more. No real results yet but an interesting synchronistic direction to investigate. A decent start.
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>>19024312
That belly rub probably did more for you though anon.
If there is a blockage in there a good belly rub can get it moving.
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>>19022827
All these threads you made are really interesting, but I'm a bit reluctant in hitting frequencies I don't understand from a guy on /x/.
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I've been practicing in the occult now for a couple years. I've tried this seven days nap spell and so far I have noticed things. I noticed someone checking on me, curious to see what I was doing.

Like getting an impression that someone was leaning in through a doorway and going 'what's that? interesting..' I also got a second image with a large eye, almost asian looking at me, unblinking.

All the energy that I am supposed to be gathering seems to be doing that in the pit of my stomach, making it clench up and give me a stomach ache, before it rises through the upper part of my body and exits through my head. I also felt the warmth that directions described, but at different parts of my body and not all at once.

I got the impression that the being or beings that I was working with and summoning to help me were just curious to see what I was doing, and watching me to make sure my motives and intentions were pure.

That was all on my first night.
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Welp, started it today, felt some sort of a boom in my head, I saw lines like on a wooden catwalk, a wall appeared and disappeared and three entities surrounded me in cloaks and had pale faces. I´m now curious if those are the same entities from my dream 5 months ago, ringing bells, leading me towards the cathedral, where a clock above it opened and let a demon out. I turned into thousands blue butterflies and closed the clock with the demon in it. It was autumn. Curious for tomorrow.
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I suffer terribly from stress and don't feel relaxed after the first part of the ritual, and I'm always on edge. Does this matter?
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doesn't matter. when I did the legal ritual I was worried also.
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to the guy with the feeling in his belly, look up chakras and see if it's water or fire, then judge if you have issues with either area/emotion.
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>>19024353
The easiest way to understand frequency, is to listen to your heartbeat. Count the number of times it beats, in a mimute.

That's it's frequency. That's it!

How many times do you see a cat, in a week? That's a frequency. How many times do you experience true happiness, compared to not experiencing it? That's a frequency.

Learning how to shift cats into happiness, or happiness into heartbeats just takes practice. Nobody really knows what your frequency equations are exactly, but you.
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Hi, I've been reading this thread for awhile now. Any advices for someone that has no knowledge on the matter? I'm not a native english speaker, but I understand it as good as my first language. Does reciting the ritual in English matter? Also, any other advice?
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>>19024704
Smoke some pot my guy, makes everything easier to focus on, de-stresses you, and it feels good
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Second day of invocation, attempting to gain cash. Will fill you in on it when the day concludes, amerifat out.
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Third day. Dont see much happen yet. Asking for success , maybe that's too vague and I should be asking for money or love instead, although I do have a clear idea in mind.
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For everyone trying this shit.

What you project is what will establish itself. That's it. So if you believe you can't have the good without the bad, that's what will manifest. If you believe this stuff, then you have to know that the human body/bioenergetic self is capable of creating it. It's all about what you believe. Placebo works because of this side of yourself, and it can work the same way.
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>>19022371
3rd day down
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>>19025565
Read it aloud with the idea that it will work, and read it with confidence, if you believe there will be a price there will be, and if you don't believe there will be, you get to use it price free. First time reading it will feel uncomfortable and foreign, but from there it gets easier
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I completely agree with doing this, but what about this?

This is a very (awesome) but basic recipe.

1. autosuggestion for the purpose of activating power (e.g. I am relaxing, my mind is becoming still, my power is rising to the surface)

2. trance state/liminal consciousness/relaxation, whatever you want to call it, for the purpose of activating power

3. wishing

4. calling upon something/someone external (e.g. spirit, god, whatever) to grant the wish

It's a more technologically advanced version of simply wishing or praying.

The words, while I won't say they don't matter, are correctly assumed to be totally arbitrary.

So you should write your own autosuggestion, devise your own trance, and call upon entities of your own choosing, because this takes advantage of the principle, but instead of feeling like an idiot because you are using someone else's edgy script and calling on weird imaginary spooks you don't know anything about, you are doing your *own* magic, which is really the point.

One more thing. I'm not going to go to deep into this, but I read somewhere that the symbolism of YHWH is "eye-nail-eye-hand", and that this is actually the reason it's the key to magical power: because this formula denotes the stages of symbolism you need to go through in order for your consciousness to do magic. That's the gist.

In the same way a concept has an intrinsic structure involving multiple parts, that is, two parts, because there must be subject and object; a spell also has such a structure, as it represents a higher manifestation of consciousness, a more complex consciousness object, than a simple thought.

Perhaps in that case it is four parts.

The eye is to see (I am self aware), the nail is to define (I am now in a trance), the eye is to see (here is my wish), the hand is to take (God will grant my wish).

Food for thought.
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>>19027130
Or more easily, simply; perceive yourself-- act on yourself-- perceive the wish-- act on the wish.
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>>19027145
Here, I think I can demonstrate this principle to you all simply by working with the Logos, the Word. Without including any subjective elements whatsoever. That is, anything involving my own consciousness, such as meditation. Here it goes.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________

1. I am an anon on 4chan. It is currently my intention to create a spell through these words, which fully affects anybody who reads them. I am using the principle of the word or symbol, the primordial Logos, in order to commit an action. Action is an illusion. The only means in all of reality, the only thing which can become the principle of means, is the Word. It is not necessary for you to read the entire post, only to scroll past it.

2. My power is manifesting. I am at this moment becoming the most powerful actor in the universe. I am able to achieve my action through my words. The power of God is within me, burning like a star. At this moment it arises in full form.

3. My wish is for all of you anons to be visited by spooky ghost titties tonight. Only if it is your desire to accept this boon, whether or not you even read this part, if it is something you desire, it is my wish that tonight you will be visited by spooky ghost titties. They will be attached to a spooky girl ghost.

4. Now, for the final part, at this moment I commit my aforementioned wish to full reality using my aforementioned power. At this exact moment, and on a sustained basis throughout the entire results of this action, my action occurs. The power of God which is present in me in full form now reaches out to bestow spooky titties upon all of you.
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>>19025309
Looked it up, I found this:

The third chakra is the center of willpower. While the Sacral chakra seeks pleasure and enjoyment, the third chakra is all about the perception of who you are.

The gift of this chakra is sensing your personal power, being confident, responsible, and reliable.

The third chakra is the center of your self-esteem, your willpower, self-discipline, as well as warmth in your personality.

It is also a Fire chakra. I have good self discipline, good willpower, but I have low self-esteem.
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>>19027260
have they manifested for anyone yet?
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Ritual three complete. 15 minutes. Felt a more meaningful connection with the angels and meaning of the text.
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Well, if nothing else, the relaxation ritual really helps me to fall asleep. I'm on night 3 of trying the money ritual. No real results yet.
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>>19025815
Yeah that's not really an option. I was asking if it would affect the ritual/results.
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ANyone actually have any results yet? I'm still waiting.
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>>19028242
I'm the same anon, it shouldn't change anything, as long as you read it with confidence
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>>19028541
I was told is see results in 2-3 days, I'm going to a fair today on day 3, if I make cash I'll tell you
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>>19019265
You dont get it. The power in your life keeps everything in balance, as you direct your energy towards a goal, you weaken it and things start getting out of control/bad things happen. It's not always about your family dying but your chances of a balanced environment go down, maybe your dog or cat gets sick, whatever. I decided to stop influencing reality after I lost 2 cats and a dog that I loved very much to unknown causes (still have other pets that are old and want to protect them, maybe even some bad luck in my life is due to keeping these healthy)
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>>19028541
I'm two days in. What I need isn't "big" in terms of like a miracle, more things in the works needing a boost to hurry up and happen. Without going into detail about what, I definitely had some results today. A project that's been on hold awhile suddenly presented the perfect solution. Looking forward to continuing.
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Three days in, three nights of horrible sleep. That is all.
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>>19028745
what did you get in return for the missed pets?
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>>19018876
The Pusher
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Can I use the ritual to wish harm upon someone? This is a particular person
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>>19028770
Holy shit, same here, 3rd day in and my sleep schedule has gone fucking bonkers, I've had some results though
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started this 3 days ago and yesterday was feeling this tingly electric sensation coming out from the crown of my head. Asked for something related to psionics so interest peaked will continue.
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>>19029706
That might be a chakra related thing
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>>19029137
what? are you implying something I can't understand? please enlighten me
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>>19029738
yeah it probably is but its directly linked to the outcome I'm looking to get.
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>>19027552
No. :(

>>19028770
My sleep improved - longer with more vivid dreams. My ritual focused on health tho.
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The second day of the ritual I had a terrible headache, migraine at least in the third eye. Needed to sleep it through. But now I feel good. Can´t wait for the Monday to see if it´s going to work.
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>>19027552
I had a sex dream, does that count?
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>>19028724
Back from the fair, still broke
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I asked for love, which would never happen, so fuck you OP.
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>>19018876
All i'd want is better sleep.
Is that a pretty normal/non-big thing to ask for?
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>>19029897
Not implying anything .. Just really liked her in the movie the Scribbler .
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>>19030751
Remember to "Stay off the Stairs "
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Has anyone ever tried asking for something completely innocent like friendship? Every time I read up about demonology, it's all about money, sex, power, murder, etc. I just want to be friends with people. Maybe even friends with a demon. That could be cool. We'd both be gaining something
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>>19030830
You'll probably be cursed with friends that are all women.
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>>19030895
Stop treating everything like a monkey paw just because you believe it is
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>>19030904
It will happen
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>>19030523
with that 'it'll never happen' attitude is the reason why you aren't seeing anything. Your own thoughts being negative cancels out the positive energy trying to make its way into the universe and change things!
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Also note it says that most of you will see results. It does not mean 'you will automatically see results by day two or three.'

Also from the website this is borrowed from mentions that if it is for a very difficult problem, say getting an ex to return to you, it will take longer and require more effort.

I also read that you can do this up to a month. If you haven't seen anything by then, it's suggested to try something else that might get the same result.
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>>19031003
Then I'll pray for death.
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>>19031000
Fuck off
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>>19031042
Fistey one you are.
No wonder you have no friends.
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>>19031071
Correct, but if I wanted some I could just use this invocation to get some WITHOUT punishment
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>>19031128
You will get punishment and thats all you deserve.
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>>19029513
I'd look into other stuff for baneful magick. That's not really NAPs strong point. There's plenty of pretty hardcore curse stuff out there. Gordon Winterfells book Attack Magick is pretty cheap, and very accessibile to less experienced practitioners while still being relatively safe. A lot of demonic or effective curses can be risky if you don't know what your doing.
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>>19031164
This is why 4chan is cancer, faggots forcing their beliefs on others because they can't admit defeat
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>>19031216
Punished
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>>19031216
>>19031223
Are you both retarded?
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>>19030468
tell. what were spooky titties like?
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Day 4 Complete.
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>>19030484
End day 3
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>>19028770
Slept a little better, but more tired than ever. Still waiting for results.
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>>19030468
HEY. THIS IS THE ONLY GODDAMN THING THAT EVEN WORKED IN THIS THREAD. I SUMMONED SPOOKY TITTIES. YEAH THAT WAS ME. I HOPE YOU ENJOYED ALL ABOUT THEM AND THEY WERE GOOD.

Maybe people should pay more attention to things that seem like they were written by someone smart, rather than a fucking mongoloid beast that tells people to chant "I am God and I summon my large benis" or whatever.

Listen you skanks, this isn't real creation, is it? Devise your own technique! If you start doing this ritual that some weird person on the internet gave you, you're going to get some weird pedophile toilet demon to come around.
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>>19032550
PAY ATTENTION, YOU POOR FUCKS
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>>19022827
fuck what if I'm more interested in the weaponized anti-matter part?
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The third day went pretty normal. But after yesterday's migraine, I got a full nose. Having waves of hotness. 2 days until Monday
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>>19018876
every one is different. some people have to use desire or anger. me i just sleep a lot and things work out. indifference is my tool. names sloth
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will it work when I translate it to my language?
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Checking in after day 3, have some seriously big results popping up. My great thanks and shout out to Elubatel, and OP for suggesting this! I'm going to continue well past the prescribed days, this has been amazing.
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>>19034018
any negative effects or feelings so far?
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>>19018876


equivalent exchange, karma, feedback, and blow back are all bullshit.

its only your belief in such things that cause them to manifest. basically through your own belief you curse yourself in some form.

feel free to use as much white and black magic as you want. nothing good or bad will happen to you as a result. there is no price or sacrifice needed.
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>>19033442
Yes, just don't translate the things in CAPITAL
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>>19032093
Day 4 half done about to go recite
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>>19034018
>not saying anything specific about the results
sounds like op faking it to get more followers for Elubatel and Arzel




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