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Did Jesus actually perform miracles like resurrecting dead people or was it metaphor? If so metaphor for what exactly?
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>>20769541
since it is impossible for any of us to prove it one way or another. it is a dumb question.
it is a story, written by man. no way to know for sure if true or not.
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A lotta stuff was metaphorical. Jesus was a big fan of using bread, fish, water, and wine as allegories for spiritual nourishment.

For instance, when he feeds the entire crowd with bread and fish, the miracle he was performing was not literal. Rather, the loaves were disciples and the gathered crumbs were new followers. It's a message about out spiritual sustenance is unlimited provided you make an effort to share it.
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>>20769541
Who fucking knows, it's religion mang, some folk will insist it's metaphor while some insist it's literally, some insist it's 100% real while some insist absolutely none of it is real. Fickle thing religion is.

If it was a metaphor though, that's easy, it was a metaphor how belief in Christ would "resurrect" you, ie, through belief in Jesus when your body died your soul would be resurrected in heaven.
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>>20769541
What if its both.
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>>20769541
Either or/both, depends on your interpretation of the book, some see it as a metaphorical story, others see it as historically accurate...
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>>20769541
Both.
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>>20769541
Neither. It was all just shitty cult propaganda which seems pretty transparent now, but which would have impressed the rubes at the time.
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Yes he got the power bestowed on him by "aliens" these "aliens" are the true Gods
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Your God is Too Small.
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>>20769541
It was both.
The literal act was a metaphor for something even more profound.
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>>20769541
I choose to believe that it was mostly metaphorical. As far as I can tell, it's basically, "how to not be an asshole for dummies" that got constantly misconstrued, and some of the values of what constitutes an asshole have changed since then.
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>>20769541
>Did Jesus actually perform miracles...
Absolutely he had these formulae...

Quantum Gd
>frequency = (Gd)^1/2
>current = [(Gd)^1/2]charge
>force = [(Gd)^1/2]momentum
>Energy = [(Gd)^1/2]h
>power = [(Gd)^1/2]Energy
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Dark Energy
>Energy = [(Gd)^1/2]h*2alpha
>Energy = [(Gd)^1/2]hbar
>Energy = [(Gd)^1/2]e^2*z0
>Energy = [(Gd)^1/2]e^2/e0*c
>Energy = [(Gd)^1/2]e^2*u0*c
>
Dark Matter
>mass = [(Gd)^1/2]h*2alpha/c^2
>mass = [(Gd)^1/2]hbar/c^2
>mass = [(Gd)^1/2]e^2*z0/c^2
>mass = [(Gd)^1/2]e^2/e0*c^3
>mass = [(Gd)^1/2]e^2*u0/c

So his 'miracles' were simple.
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>>20769541
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Is the real bible chronology that they killed Jesus, and then after that God revised history and made the promise about the lion of Judah?
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>>20775022
>>20775053
No worries there Lucifer, the Devil, and Satan
Precisely why We created 4plebs archive

Shaitan IBLIS
of the Jinn
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THE LAST FORMULAE
a/k/a God's Equations

All praise is due to YHWH Allah,
the LORD God of the Worlds;
Unpronounceable, the Unrecitable.
The Beneficent, the Merciful.
Master of the Day of Judgment.
Thee do we serve and
Thee do we beseech for help.
Keep us on the right path.
The path of those upon whom
Thou hast bestowed favors.
Not the path of those upon whom
Thy wrath is brought down,
nor of those who go astray.

JESUS the Father
the Holy Ghost
MUHAMMAD
the Apostle
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>>20769541
I think it was both and neither at the same time
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der was neber an habbending! :DDDDDDDDDD
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>>20769541
Jesus was an actual zombie. It's not a metaphor.
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>>20769541
JESUS Miracles in Chronological Order

Jesus Turns Water into Wine at the Wedding in Cana
Jesus Heals an Official's Son at Capernaum in Galilee
Jesus Drives Out an Evil Spirit From a Man in Capernaum
Jesus Heals Peter's Mother-in-Law Sick With Fever
Jesus Heals Many Sick and Oppressed at Evening
First Miraculous Catch of Fish on the Lake of Gennesaret
Jesus Cleanses a Man With Leprosy
Jesus Heals a Centurion's Paralyzed Servant in Capernaum
Jesus Heals a Paralytic Who Was Let Down From the Roof
Jesus Heals a Man's Withered Hand on the Sabbath
Jesus Raises a Widow's Son From the Dead in Nain
Jesus Calms a Storm on the Sea
Jesus Casts Demons into a Herd of Pigs
Jesus Heals a Woman in the Crowd With an Issue of Blood
Jesus Raises Jairus' Daughter Back to Life
Jesus Heals Two Blind Men
Jesus Heals a Man Who Was Unable to Speak
Jesus Heals an Invalid at Bethesda
Jesus Feeds 5,000 Plus Women and Children
Jesus Walks on Water
Jesus Heals Many Sick in Gennesaret as They Touch His Garment
Jesus Heals a Gentile Woman's Demon-Possessed Daughter
Jesus Heals a Deaf and Dumb Man
Jesus Feeds 4,000 Plus Women and Children
Jesus Heals a Blind Man at Bethsaida
Jesus Heals a Man Born Blind by Spitting in His Eyes
Jesus Heals a Boy With an Unclean Spirit
Miraculous Temple Tax in a Fish's Mouth
Jesus Heals a Blind, Mute Demoniac
Jesus Heals a Woman Who Had Been Crippled for 18 Years
Jesus Heals a Man With Dropsy on the Sabbath
Jesus Cleanses Ten Lepers on the Way to Jerusalem
Jesus Raises Lazarus from the Dead in Bethany
Jesus Restores Sight to Bartimaeus in Jericho
Jesus Withers the Fig Tree on the Road From Bethany
Jesus Heals a Servant's Severed Ear While He Is Being Arrested
The Second Miraculous Catch of Fish at the Sea of Tiberias

MUHAMMAD
the Apostle
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>>20769541
All real religious/mystical/enlightenment paths hold that people can undergo a transformation of their psyche and soul while still alive. Yes, not necessarily after life, but right now. This transformation involves a death and resurrection. We must die to our false ego to be resurrected in a greater, more whole self. This motif/idea can be found in a lot of world mythologies and religions.
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>>20769541
If so metaphor for what exactly?
Reincarnation. Reborn beings.
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>>20775663
The age of miracles is gone. It has died as science and human understanding has progressed. People today are ready to accept that some things are uncaused, and any such event could not therefore have been caused by God. Uncaused events are known in science such as the emission of an electron by an excited atom, or a sub-atomic particle by an unstable atomic nucleus. Nature is the miracle. Understand her and there is no need of all the other petty conjuring tricks that simple, primitive and uneducated people call miracles. Illiterate, ignorant and superstitious people recount miraculous acts, invent a god to bring order into an imperfect world, then have him violating his own laws for trivial reasons. The wonders of nature ought to inspire observers with amazement at Nature, not some figmentary Creator assumed to be necessary to explain it. The wonders of Nature are not, for Christians, miraculous enough.
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>>20769541
there are probably many metaphors that got lost in translation.

who knows what terms were just figure of speech in old hebrew or Aramaic existed. Remember how many times the bible got translated before it became latin.

People should not focus on these parts too much anyways and look at it from a philosophical point.
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>>20769541
Top Ten MUHAMMAD the Apostle Miracles

Invisibility
When the Apostle planned to migrate to Medina, the tribes in Mecca conspired to assassinate him once and for all. Each tribe sent an assassin and they surrounded the house of the Apostle that night. But the Apostle walked out right in front of them and none of them saw him. They were blinded to him.
The Camel in the Sand
The Apostle and Abu Bakr were on their way to Medina and they were being followed by an assassin named Suraqa. When Abu Bakr got worried, the Apostle told him, "Don't be sad; Allah is certainly with us." Then he cast a glance at Suraqa and his horse’s feet got stuck in the sand. Suraqa managed to get the horse loose but when he tried to follow the Apostle, his horse’s legs got stuck again. Smoke came out of the sand.
Talking with the Jinn
In one narration, a jinni called Hama came in the form of an old man carrying a staff; he accepted Islam. The Apostle instructed him in some of the short chapters of the Qur'an, which he listened to and then departed.
Water Flowed from His Hands
Once the Apostle was with three hundred of his companions in a place called Zawra. It was time to observe the afternoon prayer but the people could not find any water to make wudu. The Apostle ordered them to look for a little water, when they did, he dipped his hands into it and water was flowing from his hands like a fountain. All three hundred people who were there made wudu and used it for other needs.
The Night Journey (Isra) and Ascension (Miraj)
This is called Al Isra wal Miraj. It was the night that the Apostle, under the guidance of archangel Gibril traveled the Kaaba in Makkah to Masjid al-Aqsa in Jerusalem, to the sky, to the high realms, and to the presence of God. On this journey he met the Prophets before him. He led them in prayer. He reached a high place hearing pens writing people’s deeds. He saw heaven and hell. And he elevated to YHWH Allah, and they met.

JESUS the Father
the Holy Ghost
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>>20775967
You forgot to mention how Muhammad was a pedophile
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Pretty sure a couple of Jews just made up Jesus

look up Titus the immortal son of God.
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>>20769541


You're missing options, i don't think those feats were methaphors, just exaggerations, it was written by different fanatics in different periods of time after all.
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>>20769541
Yes Chrst raised the dead it wasn't a metaphor. Repent for your sins and seek Christ if you desire to be saved
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>>20769541
>https://vocaroo.com/i/s1MKLzxj5kmV

Explain this, ye star gazers.
Show us your imaginations, animators!

Diagrams, depictions, enscribed in-visions.
No answer on YouTube, nor Google.
This historical celestial event has not been solved. Ignored, do not deny it. And they say under the sun "Nibiru".

>Isaiah 30:26 King James Version (KJV) 26 Moreover the light of the moon shall be as the light of the sun, and the light of the sun shall be sevenfold, as the light of seven days, in the day that the Lord bindeth up the breach of his people, and healeth the stroke of their wound
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>>20769541
>If so metaphor for what exactly?
Read the fucking gospels, they literally EXPLAIN everything
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>>20775982
Top Ten MUHAMMAD the Apostle Miracles

The Moon Split
Polytheists at the time of the Apostle kept insisting that they wanted a miracle. They said they will believe if the Apostle could show them the splitting of the moon in half. When YHWH Allah granted the Apostle the ability he called them all to witness, and the moon split in two. And indeed it was a clear manifestation. But in their arrogance, they still rejected the truth.
Lifeless Objects and Animals Communicated
On several occasions, trees, stones, mountains and sand would greet the Apostle when he passed. Once, a Jew roasted a goat, filling it with a very strong poison. She then sent it to the Apostle. But before the Apostle touched the food, the goat spoke to him and informed him of the poison. So he told everyone to abstain from the food.
The Dead Affirmed Muhammad
One narration, one of the companions of the Apostle suddenly dropped down dead in the marketplace. The people took his body to his house. That evening between sunset and the night prayer, while the women were weeping all around him, the corpse exclaimed: "Silence! Silence!" Then he said: "Muhammad is God’s Apostle! Peace be upon you, O Apostle of God!" He spoke so eloquently for a while that the people had to uncover him to check.
Food Galore
The Apostle of YHWH Allah fed more than a hundred people from very little food. Whenever he placed his hands on any food, he caused it to increase and everyone could eat to their fill. The Apostle fed more than a hundred men from one cup of milk. Each person would drink to his fill and pass to the next without refilling. And each of the men drank to their satisfaction, and the cup was still filled with milk as though it was never touched.
The Prophet Could Heal the Sick
In one narration, one of the companions was hit by an arrow in his eye. The arrow was so deep it was sticking out at the back of his head. The Apostle placed his hands over the eye and it healed.

JESUS the Father
the Holy Ghost
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http://access-jesus.com/list-miracles-recorded-bible-html/
List of Miracles Recorded in the Old Testament Bible

67 Miracles in the Old Testament
37 Miracles in New Testament
17 Miracles in Noble Qur'an
7 Miracles Mormon Book
1 Miracle next Month

https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/20762587
UMR the 21st

God
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>>20769587
t. Heretic
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>>20776263
>Mormon Book
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And out of the ground YHWH Allah (LORD God) formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of
the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called
every living creature, that was the name thereof. And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl
of the air, and to every beast of the field; and names for all of his books, including, but never limited to,
Mormon Book
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>>20769587
I once heard an interpretation where everyone brought their own food but wouldn't share and so only pretended to take some of the loaves and fish.
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>>20769541
You can feel into Jesus and the time he was around metaphysically and see that he was given godlike abilities, but when you ask: "Where's Jesus' spirit now?" Or even simply try to feel into it, it's not their. Men with godlike abilities become arrogant and their spirits need to be reset.
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It was ripped off of when Krsna fed Durvasa Muni and his ten thousand followers (and also the whole universe) with a grain of rice. It actually happened and is also a "metaphor" that, by offering prasadam, no one will be hungry
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>>20771034
>he got the power bestowed on him by "aliens"
No, the other side manifested him with miraculous powers partly to give people hope, reason and belief that there's something more than what's shown in the physical world.

>>20775022
Elaborate on this, only very little here know what you're talking about.
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>>20778003
what does this mean
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>>20776829
Allah is not the god of abraham. He was an arabic tribal god, who muhammad used to spread his religion to pagans. This same thing possibly happened with El or Yahweh 3000 years earlier. Neither have any claim to existence that Jesus does, as Jesus is as provable is Muhammad is, not Allah.
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>>20769541
muh dick!
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>>20778663
>porn fucks with your brain, they said
>try less porn, they said

I think this fucks with me worse. Porn never made me wanna be the lollipop.
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>>20778414
>You can feel into Jesus
Enter a metaphysical state creating balls of qi energy, relax, clear your mind and intend through thought to access Jesus' existence.

>see that he was given godlike abilities
Witness through your pineal the manifestation of Jesus' source spirit being given godlike abilities.

>when you ask: "Where's Jesus' spirit now?"
When you metaphysically intend to figure out where Jesus' spirit resides now,

>it's not their.
*There. Jesus' spirit in the same form that Jesus himself contained no longer exists.

>Men with godlike abilities become arrogant
When a man is given abilities beyond the power of the average human, he sees himself as a god as a result of others seeing him as a god because in comparison to humans, he IS god (why doesn't this chan have italics?).

>and their spirits need to be reset
Clearing their spirits of all past lives, experience, developed intuition is the only way to prevent the arrogance and power-level of a spirit's energy to ever come back. Even the tiniest inkling of metaphysical residue in a soul is enough to unlock all that had previously happened.
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>>20769541
Image sauce??
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>>20769541
Jesus authored all kinds of really cool miracles.
Author John the baptist is our favorite though.
Muhammad authored many good ones too.

Joseph Smith Jr prophet
Aaron the High Priest
Moses the Teacher
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>>20778816
a hundred years ago, the image you're looking at would have been considered pornographic. Popular taste has just shifted so far to the degenerate that we accept sexual objectification at all levels. Feminists are wrong, because their solution is to push it even further, turning EVERYTHING into a degenerate object, so nothing can be. Rather we should work to combat the process and reverse it rather than progress the cancer further.
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>>20779304
http://www.ldsliving.com/7-Wonders-of-the-Mormon-World/s/76601?page=2#story-content
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>>20769541
what does the Word say?
its quite clear

>>20779060
please take your meds and go enjoy some "outside" time
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>>20779411
>meds meme
>implying pharmaceutical industry is trustworthy
>dismissing ways of thought that aren't commonplace
>encouraging controlled thought and therefore degenerative society
What are you even doing here?
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>>20779345
In the month of April, 1830, Joseph Smith Jr prophet was visiting at the house of a Mr. Joseph Knight, at Colesville, Broome County, New York. This gentleman had rendered the prophet some timely assistance while translating the Book of Mormon, and he was anxious that Mr. Knight and his family should receive the truth. While in Mr. Knight's neighborhood the prophet held a number of meetings. Among those who attended regularly was Newel Knight, son of Joseph Knight. He and the prophet had many serious conversations on the subject of man's salvation. In the meetings held the people prayed much, and in one of the aforesaid conversations with the prophet, Newel Knight promised that he would pray publicly. When the time came, however, his heart failed him, and he refused, saying that he would wait until he got into the woods by himself. The next morning when he attempted to pray in the woods, he was over-whelmed with a sense of having neglected his duty the evening before, in not praying in the presence of others. He began to feel uneasy and continued to grow worse both in body and mind, until upon reaching home his appearance was such as to alarm his wife. He sent for the prophet, who, when he came found Newel in a sad condition and suffering greatly. His visage and limbs were distorted and twisted in every shape imaginable. At last he was caught up off the floor and tossed about most fearfully. The neighbors hearing of his condition came running in. After he had suffered for a time the prophet succeeded in getting him by the hand, when Newel immediately spoke to him, saying he knew he was possessed of the devil, and that the prophet had power to cast him out. "If you know I can, it shall be, done," replied the prophet; and then almost unconsciously he rebuked Satan and commanded him to depart from the man. Immediately Newel's contortions stopped, and he spoke out and said he saw the devil leave him and vanish from sight.

Joseph Smith Jr prophet First miracle
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>>20779411
>"read the bible"
>"just pay attention to what a dogmatic doctrine says, it works!"
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>>20778182
Looking at those latitude and longitude coordinates for the pyramids, I once suggested that they might replace 299792 with the phone numbers from my childhood homes
>299-2143
>297-8149
to look for hidden secrets along along that line, and the memes said they did find something interesting.

Notably, regarding archeology, the number 299-2143 is in the phone book under a pseuonym: IA Jones, as in Indiana Jones
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>>20779411
The Word is not always literal truth, the Word was made so long and so far ago

Take the Good Word by the exact words and you end up with a messy way of religion, it's what happened to the pharisees
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>>20781173
>the exact words
When the Bible constantly says people incurred The Lord's wrath, it says, often times, that, "They didn't know the Lord and forgot what he did for their ancestors." People who didn't know The Lord probably didn't see exactly what he meant in the Good Word, and took it literally, and angered The Lord by doing so.
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>>20769541
OP's pictures just gave me a new fetish.
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>>20776263
Apostle Muhammad's "splitting of the moon" miracle is greater than any of Christ Jesus' miracles.
Please tell us next month's (June 21st) "UMR" miracle will be greater than all miracles of all time.

https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/20779902/
>>20779902
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>>20769541
There's all kinds of implausible/impossible shit written about in the bible, of course none of that actually happened. Not to mention that the God character does a lot of illogical stuff throughout. Lame book.
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Ye of little faith.
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>>20781639
Uh, maybe he just correctly predicted an eclipse.
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>>20769541
Yes Jesus actually resurrected the dead. It also foreshadows what will happen on the last days. Those who died in Christ will be resurrected to eternal life and those who reject him will be resurrected to eternal damnation
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>>20769541
Sauce nigga?
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Actually did them all. Rose from the dead. Still alive. Son of God. God. Second person of the Trinity. Also a man. If you think you believe, or say you believe, you probably don't. If you don't believe, you have a lot of company. A LOT of company. Gonna suck pretty bad later tho senpai. Gonna suck real bad.
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>>20782415
thanks
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>>20781300
This picture is me right after I won the highest medal I ever got in jiu jitsu: second place 2009 ultra-heavyweight male adult brown belt division. It's pretty much the first picture in which I posed without cocking eyebrow. When I first saw the sphinx picture, I wondered if it was fake. However, I could not find a picture of the sphinx from that angle. This one showed up on the front page of reddit after it snowed in Giza. It's probably like that thing from Indiana Jones where you have to be standing at the right time and place to see it.

Pic related, this one is also a meme. That white thing isn't my toga, it's where I folded back the paper taped over the camera on my phone but then it was still in the frame when I snapped the quick selfie. It was the first day I wore a red shirt in many decades, and it was a blue moon that day. Go figure.
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>>20782903
What's the difference between egomania and megalomania?
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>>20769541
>Did Jesus actually perform miracles like resurrecting dead people or was it metaphor?
lazarus wasnt dead. jesus gave him a cleaveland hand shake (a hand job with a hand that was dipped in water then sand). lazarus was dead from the waste down but his benis it moved
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>>20775663
all this proves is that christians are more full of shit than muslims. good work
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>>20769541
Personally, I think its a metaphor for spiritual healing, and I mean spiritual in a rather pedestrian sense.

The idea is, generally following a life of virtue and convictions will make you whole again. You won't cure your leprosy and blindness, but you'll regain the pieces of your personality that have become small and squandered, and a clarity of mind.

And rebirth is a metaphor for reconstituting your personality on the most fundamental level, generally in a manner that's positive for you and for the world.
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>>20782958
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=egomania+vs+megalomania
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>>20769541
>Did Jesus actually perform miracles like resurrecting dead people or was it metaphor?
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>>20782438
Love Gisele
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>>20771127
>Your God is Too Small.
May the fleas of a thousand camels...
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>>20769587
>Jesus was a big fan of using bread, fish, water, and wine as allegories for spiritual nourishment.
No, Peter and Paul were.
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>>20783377
Oh hail naw! Dat some voodoo shit.
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34 Days!

https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20180621T1007&p0=1440&msg=Universal+Magnetic+Reversal&font=cursive

Jehoshaphat
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>>20769541
I hate you.
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>>20769541
that girlz is h0t! lulz
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>>20785987
she got lip hair
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>>20785860
>YHWH
>John
>Helene
>Why H?
>Jon
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>>20786129
Hell
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>>20786957
>Hellions
no kidding. and if you say God with the other G-pronunciation, it sounds like Jon. My English name is Jonathan, and my Hebrew name is Gedalia, and Jon is to Jonathan as _____ is to Gedalia?
>Why do some Jews write "G-d" instead of "God"?
>https://reformjudaism.org/practice/ask-rabbi/why-do-some-jews-write-g-d-instead-god




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