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A lot of people compare Goblin Slayer to Berserk, while claiming that the latter is better because the subject matter isnt just there to be edgy and hook readers. Berserk IS edgy, sometimes needlessly so. But it's an important reminder of the tone. The world is fucked morally and will only get worse from there. Nearly each and every time rape or torture happens to a character in Berserk, they don't deserve it happening to them. Innocence lost for the sake of causing an emotional reaction in the reader.

The rape in Goblin Slayer isn't necessarily to set the tone of the world, but an attempt to paint the goblins as the type of irredeemable chaotic evil that plagues people who underestimate it. Keep in mind, that a few moments afterwards, it presents the goblin babies, and even brings up the moral argument "what if some goblins were good?"

Goblin Slayer doesn't just push the question aside as naive, he concedes that it's possible. He also explains properly why he kills the goblin babies. GS's use of edge is to justify the titular character and the activities he will be partaking in throughout the series: wiping out gobs.
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>>179240436
so gob slayer is the punisher and berserk is the watchmen
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I'd argue that Wyald "fun things are fun" shoving a spear up that one chick's ass(literally and metaphorically) and cutting off all of her limbs is way edgier than anything GS manages to do.
There's a reason why he's never appeared in any side material outside of one game.
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>>179240436
First time viewer of this series.
I saw the first episode yesterday.

I thought it was a bit edgy, but to be honest it wasn't bad. I did get a "Berserk" vibe from it, but in my opinion it wasn't as bad. I think it's a shame that they didn't show more brutal scenes.

In my opinion, this wasn't a very good first episode, but the character looks really cool so I'll keep watching it.
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>>179241493
Post more cats.
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>>179241620
Try the LN or the manga, the pacing of that episode is a bit weird.
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>>179241682
The manga is online, right?
What should I expect?

I like novels, but I don't really like reading the translations, because they feel cringey or that the visuals will let me down if I see them first.
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So does the rape continue or not
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>>179241493
EXCITEMENT AND E N J O Y M E N T
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>>179241682
Ya compared to the manga it's a bit odd. I'm actually really curious as to why they didn't have the full first episode be about the band of new adventuerers and then at the end they all die and it stops with GS showing up and the second episode would be him cleaning out that cave.

Guess they just wanted to hook people.
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Will she get gobbed?
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>>179240436
>The rape in Goblin Slayer isn't necessarily to set the tone of the world, but an attempt to paint the goblins as the type of irredeemable chaotic evil that plagues people

are we basing this off the first episode alone, because down the line we learn that Goblins have a distinct language and culture and nests are usually lead by some hierarchy. So really their more neutral evil
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>>179241798
Here's the thing, I'm really excited for this show. I'm just scared that it'll get repetitive.
"Chapter 139: Still slaying Goblins"
Another fear of mine is that it'll be a short coming.

I feel like they're going to cut corners /somewhere/ along the show.
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>>179241829
No because in GS only characters unimportant to the story get gobbed, because something bad happening to an important character means you need to write about the character overcoming that obstacle, which advances the story in a meaningful way, and GOB FORBID
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>>179241775
Try the manga then. Ep 1 of the anime clearly lifts the manga panels wholesale to use as a storyboard, but for some reason mucks it up, leading to the weird pacing. The manga art isn't particularly superb or anything, but one thing the artist is good at is emphasis and impact. When he wants to make you feel hype, you're gonna get fucking hyped.

>>179241798
Chapter 1 would have been a far better hook though, ending with a slow pan up from behind Priestess, showing GS surrounded by gob corpses, then naming himself on a closeup of his helmet, highlights and shadows dancing about from the flickering torch light.

It's probably just that it's really hard to stretch it out to fill an entire episode without pulling material from later chapters forward to fill the time.
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>>179241949
>Here's the thing, I'm really excited for this show. I'm just scared that it'll get repetitive

the nature of the gobbos threat is changed up now and then, also their is a great deal going on to suggest their is a larger narrative unfolding, I doubt the anime will get to it but their is a greater game at foot.
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Let's talk about GS himself, do you agree that he is tired and wants to chill but cannot relax until all the goblins are dead?
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>>179241949
>"Chapter 139: Still slaying Goblins"

then here my sugestion: drop it

because that is the premise in this serie
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>>179242466
>CG is a living chain to GS painful past
She literally doesn't allow him to move on by existing.
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>>179242509
Without her he would be much worse
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I just find it funny how he drinks through his helmet.
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>>179241797
God I love Wyald.
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>>179242623
I guess, but this means CG can never win as she basically keeps GS insane.
>CG is my childhood friend...
>From my village...
>Which goblins destroyed and raped my sister to death...
>AHHHHHHH!!!!
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>>179242650
Probably has a little lip or half-funnel in there.
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>>179240436
Goblin Slayer is literally just edge and rape written by some 12 year old.
Berserk is more than that.
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>>179240436
berserk is a manga
goblin is a shitty LN

Light novel are always writtebn trash writers
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>>179242776
Berserk art is shit.
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>>179242776
Yeah, Berserk is edge and rape written by some 42 year old.
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>>179242744
I doubt that. He was constantly abused for 5 years after the goblin raid, and during the next 5 years CG and GG were the only people who talked with him. Her presence didn't harm him.
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>>179240436
Inevitable end of a hero.
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Berserk is better, Goblin Slayer isn't bad but it is just medieval Doom-guy killing goblins and some fanservice.
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>>179240436
>while claiming that the latter is better because the subject matter isnt just there to be edgy and hook readers.
nonsense. i havent heard anybody say that
berserk is better simply because it is the original and goblin slayer is just a literal copy withnnothing to really set it apart from being a generic fantasy manga as of yet.
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>>179240436
Goblin Slayer is Berserk for people who aren't okay waiting a decade for updates.
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>>179243026
What sets it apart is Goblin Slayer's pure autism for killing goblins. It's a joy to watch and see developed and it's honestly the best part of the manga.
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If GS was given a magically enchanted weapon of some sort, do you think he'd hold on to it for a while?
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i only read mature manga like berserk
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>>179243147
Maybe if it had +3 to goblins but he likes disposable weapons.
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>>179240436
you gay
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>>179243185
>lolibutt
PICKED UP
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>>179243101
lol Guts' was the orignal autismo who cared about nothing else except killing deamon. except goblin slayer just ramps the autismo up to 100%. but that element too is a straight rip off from berserk.
dont get me wrong i still enjoy Goblin Slayer but it has no original ideas in terms of plotline at all and borrows heavily and shamelessly from Berserk
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>>179243147
no, he would sell it
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>>179243283
So, it's berserk for people who don't want to wait a decade for updates?
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>>179243143
the best parts of berserk are set before he meets that gay pixie tbf
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>>179243351
yes. id say you hit the nail on the head. probably why i read it now that i think of it.
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>>179241620
I'd recommend reading the manga, adaptations are always a risk.

Goblin Slayer is strange because after the brutal rapes in the first chapter, the mood gets toned down dramatically. It's actually a comfy series overall.
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>>179243351
/thread
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>>179243565
>I'd recommend reading the manga, adaptations are always a risk.
But the manga is an adaptation.
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>>179240436
It's not just edgy because it has rape and death and tragedy, it's edgy because they do it to cliche cute moe characters instead of having an artstyle of it's own like Berserk.
Killing cute characters always, ALWAYS comes off as nothing but shock value for edgelords. The tone and subject matter would fit much better with a more realistic artstyle, or at least something original. Instead it just screams "Heh, look at me killing these waifus, nothin personel kid."
It's like Happy Tree Friends without the parody/comedy factor to lean on.
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>>179243731
True that, but you get my point, the more hands a material pass through, the more likely some lustre are lost through the transition
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>>179243565
>after the brutal rapes in the first chapter, the mood gets toned down dramatically.
Further proof that it's just shallow garbage that used edgy shock value to hook people and get them reading/watching yet another generic fantasy anime.
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>>179242988
>we will never get a high-budget DOOM anime full of buttmetal and over-the-top action
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>>179243801
>>179243863
these
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>>179242279
GS is in a strange position. He openly admits to enjoying his goblin slaughter, but he would much prefer that there were no goblins left to kill. I don't think he wants to relax. I don't think he really knows how; all he wants is for goblins to be gone, and he hasn't given much thought to what comes next.
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>>179244160
When he's done with goblins, he'll move on to xvarts.
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>>179244160
>He openly admits to enjoying his goblin slaughter, but he would much prefer that there were no goblins left to kill

He says that because he enjoys bringing vengeance to the goblins, but would enjoy it more if the goblins were eradicated.
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>>179244160
>GS is in a strange position. He openly admits to enjoying his goblin slaughter
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>>179240436
GS is more like one ancient underrated manga named Übel Blatt.
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>>179244492
That's a name I haven't heard in years.
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>>179243863
How fortunate for us that you'd suffer the burden to teach the world of your finer tastes. Do you descend here from your ivory tower often?
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>>179244367
If you hadn't stopped reading halfway through the sentence, you'd understand. It's paradoxical to want to do something but also want to never be able to do it again.
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>>179244640
Anon is questioning your declaration that Goblin Slayer "openly admits to enjoying his goblin slaughter".
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>>179244640
No, I'm wondering where you found that he openly admitted that he enjoyed killing goblins
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>>179244793
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>>179244690
he literally says it to the receptionist.
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>>179241797
BORN TO BE WWYYYYAAALLLLLDDDDDDDDDDD
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>>179242884
*56
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>>179244835
>>179244852
He doesnt act like he enjoys it. He doesn't do more than what's necessary. He begins to enjoy the different ways he can make goblin slaughter more efficient, not the act of it.
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>>179244793
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>>179245021
>implying current Berserk is edgy
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>>179240436
Indeed, the whole premise of the show is the goblins themselves. It isn't about Goblin slayer or his friends or even the "Game" that is being played by the game-master and his sister. The story about Goblin slayer is just a "side-story" that isn't important on the whole, but one that actually plays a huge role in the everyday lives of the normal people in the manga/novel.

1. Hundreds of people get raped and murdered by the gobs.
On the whole it does not matter as the demon lord/lords threatens the very existence of the countries and all the races in the manga. A couple of hundred people getting killed over a period of ten years or so, wont have real effect on the outcome of the battle against the demon lord/lords.

2. The demon lord/lords are vanquished.
The threat against humanity is gone (for now), the threat the gobs pose are insignificant and you can't expect the heroes etc to deal with them and become pest control after they have saved the world. Goblins are after all basically just the same thing as a rat infestation or a cockroach infestation.

As such when goblin slayer dies of old age, from a disease, or if he gets killed... the world in which he exists wont really change. His existence don't really make any real change on the whole nor will his lack of existence.

The story is just a:

"what is happening among the normal people while rest of the world is having a showdowns with the final bosses".
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>>179245077
When was the real last time it was pregnant, when the Kushans were shoving pregnant women in the vat and turning the children in their bellies into beasts? That was a long long time ago.
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>>179240436
Casca deserved it for betraying Griffith.
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>>179241949
Yeah, that's the point. He'll probably get roped into the "kill the demon lord" stuff because of the High Elf tricking him with something like "The Demon Lord is actually a goblin. The strongest goblin. (Lie)"
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>>179245051
I'm not convinced you're right, but even if you are, the point stands that he won't be able to enjoy it anymore if the goblins are all gone.
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>>179245285
>Elf baits GS into fighting the demon lord
>GS immediately gets murdered because he can't fight anything that isn't goblins
Anvil worst girl
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>>179245325
He'll follow them to hell and kill them again.
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>>179240436
Okay serious discussion. When are we going to see Priestess piss herself again?

Can we get a zoom in shot on her saturated panties?
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>>179240436
>reddit spacing
opinion discarded
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>>179241797
Never understood why this guy was never in the Anime/Movies. He's like the first Apostle Guts kills and he's the one that shows everyone how fucked up Griffith is and delivers the final mindbreak to him.
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>>179240436
>Goblin Slayer doesn't just push the question aside as naive, he concedes that it's possible.
What would Goblinslayer do if he actually met a goblin that (by the means of magic or whatever) was actually good? would he try to kill it because it might for some reason do some evil deeds in the future? Or would he kill it because it's very existence as a good goblin would trick/convince other people that there were some good goblins in the world which would in the end make them spare some goblins and cause trouble?

For that matter, the person that trained goblinslayer, was he a goblin himself? Or did he just REALLY look like a goblin?
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>>179245366
Well, that's probably why they're tagging along with him. Most of their adventures usually just end up with a non-Goblin final boss. They're trying to train Goblin Slayer to be a Demon Lord slayer. The reason is probably they need someone who genuinely cares for the safety of people (shown by him killing Goblins to protect villages no one would want to) rather than their own self.
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I want to make Priestess drink so much water and then take her questing. I want to make her walk so much in the middle of the forest that she ends up wetting herself before me.
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>>179245325
Priestess and Elf are going to change that soon enough
Mostly priestess
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>>179245584
>They're trying to train Goblin Slayer to be a Demon Lord slayer.
Goblin Slayer is not a particularly strong adventurer and never will be.
The real super heroes of the guild would wipe out all goblins in an afternoon.

All that Goblin Slayer is good for, is goblins.
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>>179244492
Started reading Übel Blatt because the cover page art made the protagonist look like a girl. I started reading the manga and the protagonist still looked like a girl. The battles were garbage and so were all the characters. Still, it is one of those manga that once you have started reading it you want to finish it.
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>>179245285
It would actually make a lot of sense if the demonlord actually was/is a goblin, or the "goblin origin" at least. As is the existence of goblins don't really seem to fall under the same conventions as the other evil creatures. They reproduce by fucking other races.

So what if the first goblins were created when the demonlord fucked some elves or something? Or maybe the goblins are simply created whenever the demonlord farts?
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Anyone have the monk girl rape edits? M
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>>179244622
You sound upset.
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>>179240436
>Goblin Slayer doesn't just push the question aside as naive, he concedes that it's possible
So how will he act if he meets peaceful goblins?
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>>179247501
Outside of a cave?
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notdragonscrown characters gobbed when?
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>>179247539
Is there any difference?
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>>179241878
I started reading because of this comparisson, but the GS is just some dude, he's got a childhood friend for fuck's sake.
I cant imagine the DG eating breakfast with his girlfriend's uncle.
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>>179247646
Yes. Peaceful goblins aren't good goblins if they come out of their stinking holes.
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>>179247646
According to Goblin Slayer, yes.
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>>179247649
Said uncle cannot imagine eating breakfast with GS even though he is doing that quite often.
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>>179247649
Doomguy was just a normal dude too anon. At least before DOOM turned him from an underdog into a mary sue.
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>>179247734
What is it?
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>>179247771
We talking Doomguy or DOOM Slayer?

There's a difference.
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>>179247824
Who's DOOM Slayer?
Did the iconic Doomguy Marine get replaced or what?
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>>179247814
See >>179247727.
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>>179247857
It's the same guy, don't know what that anon is talking about. Doomguy is regular ol' Doomguy and Doom Slayer is Doomguy with angelic powers.
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>>179240436
Seems like a show that will needlessly push things to hook us in with character deaths/rape and other useless developments and it seems the whole story is about this dude in a helmet with a past trauma against goblins. Like fucking get over it, I don't know about you Anon, but if an MC from any of my other shows suddenly turned insane/rage and went full berserk because of his loved ones death...Fuck that shit nigger, get over it and let's develop a real story.

If GS was actually like this from the start and just sees the evil in goblins and the threat they pose then this story would be really good. It would pain the guild as retards and MC as someone with common sense.
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I enjoy GS but I found weird some people see it as a masterpiece with incredible writing and art.
I just enjoy it for what it is.
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Rape when?
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>>179247910
Wait what?

I was under the impression DOOM 1 and 2 take place in a different universe than DOOM 2016, and therefore the MCs of both are different.
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>>179247993
About every 25 pages or so
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>>179247996
You're correct. DOOM 1 and 2 are about a space marine who just so happens to be the last man standing against a demonic invasion, and there isn't much story beyond that. DOOM 2016 is a different universe where you play as the ancient, otherwordly enemy of demonkind, and when human prospecting for hell power goes wrong, it's killing time.
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>>179247996
No man it's the same guy. There's even implications that the ending of Doom 64 is canon (Doomguy letting himself get stuck in hell to prevent demons from leaving).
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>>179242884
>>179242776
Please look forward to my edge and rape written by a 32 year old.
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>>179248392
I don't understand what's happening in the top panel
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>>179248304
>>179248374
MY MIND IS A GLASS CAGE SHATTERING
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We got one more of week of people bitching about edge and rape with the female party wipe. The thing is are they going to fast forward through the wipe and have it at the end of episode 2 or will they indulge in the edge and make it take up the first half of episode 3?
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>>179248484
Acquisition of liquid.

>>179248392
I'm pretty sure she'd lose her license as a priest if she actually did that.
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>>179248536
But why is she lifting her clothes I don't get itOH GOD NOW I SEE IT
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>>179248484
You are too innocent for this hellhole.
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>>179248484
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kw1VNLuJAFc
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>>179248392
But girl pee specifically attracts gobbos.
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Fucking hell Goblin Slayer Year One is so much better than the main manga holy shit
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>>179248772
Imagine all the goblins coming to goblin slayer thinking its some weak girl pissing herself.
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>>179248773
Let me guess: because no Priestess?
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>>179248794
But anon it says Anti Goblin.
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i wonder if he is a platinum player that just uses a silver name tag. People in the guild surprised when they found out that he is very rich, maybe he just wanted to slay young and helpless goblins to send a message to the goblin community that humans are the most savage creature that existed. Not gonna be surprised when someone sent an assassin for him.
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>>179245143
It's still pretty dark and a bit edgy, thanks to Griffith combining the astral plane and the material plane. Latest chapters show that giants skin people to use as banners and such. And then there's a rape trolls running about too.
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>>179248823
'anti-goblin'
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>>179248827
Nope, he is a NPC from the gods point of view.
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>>179248799
Because no party, because no priestess, because Cow Girl development, because GS is way more connected to his past than in the main manga, because Rance side story, etc... It does everything better than the main serie. Fuck healed GS
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>>179245659
>The real super heroes of the guild would wipe out all goblins in an afternoon.

Actually no, you completely glossed over everything and are wrong in every way. A lot of the heros in the guild are more powerful and dangerous, true. But for wiping out large scale amounts of goblins doing goblin things these hero's are basically useless because they only know how to fight and kill what they see.
GS is a fucking Goblin, basically. He understands them better than anyone at this point. He knows almost everything about them. So while other hero's could wipe out a nest over a afternoon tea, GS knows where to find all the hidden goblins, where to find the platinum level leader who is pulling the strings from a cave over, GS knows how to TRULY wipe out the nest and all the things the other hero's would miss.

Did you even read the manga's dude? GS is not just "good" for goblins. He's the BEST for goblins. He's the Goblins Attila the fucking Hun.
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>>179248827
He's rich because (at least, before the start) he constantly runs solo but earns an entire party's worth of rewards while only buying cheap gear.
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>>179248906
>CG development
Except is the PAST, you already know how she will end anyway.
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>>179248304
>and there isn't much story beyond that

he doesnt know about the rabbit
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>>179248392
I know this artist.
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>>179248846
Oh yeah, forgot about that.
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>>179248906
You gonna hate the nexy chapters.
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>>179248974
And because he actually doesn't spend money on frivolities or amenities.
Goblin slayer works to buy equipment so that he can kill goblins more efficiently.
Other adventurers work to earn money, which they spend to have fun and enjoy their lives.
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>>179247976
Nobody does. At best you have 13 year olds who think it's amazing because it has a guy who is angry killing things and it has rape. Like Berserk but dumber.
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>>179248974
yeah but, also he really likes to throw away his weapons after he used it. Even if he managed to get the whole party reward just by himself still of all the weapons that he wasted, its still probably costly. He also most of the time kill the goblins by chopping them in half which is very amazing in terms of physical str
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>>179248497
You could say it's the same guy and that things have been fucked for so long that it's all just looped around. Original Doom Guy chose to stay in hell and punish demons, and it's possible that between all the dimension and time shifting that goes along that he eventually ended up in the new setting.

They don't actually go all that much into who The Doom Slayer is or where he came from. He is, at the end of the day, a guy who has been killing demons so long that the Demons have forgotten his origin and just think of him as a force of nature that punishes them eternally.
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Is this an animated DnD homebrew campaign?
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>>179249199
Most often, he does actually retrieve the weapons he does throw, unless the goblin killed by it drops down in a very deep hole or its corpse is floating away in a stream.
But in most cases, goblin slayer has to actually replace his weapons, because he uses cheap low-grade weapons that get useless very quickly after using them on many goblins.
And he does that on purpose, so that in the event that he is killed by the goblins, they won't get access to a good weapon.
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>>179248906
>because Cow Girl development, because GS is way more connected to his past than in the main manga
That might be because it's Year One?
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>>179249303
No.
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>>179249290
Meant to add that it's equally possible it's a totally different guy in a rebooted setting. Neither is confirmed at all. We're given bits and pieces of Doom Slayer's story but none of them explicitly suggest he's not some marine from another timeline/dimension who has continued to kill demons en masse in between entries in the series.
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>>179249303
Yes actually
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>>179249359
They actually just went through the notMines of Moria in recent manga chapters
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>>179249386
I know.
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>>179248906
Bein connected to his past is what keeps him insane.
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>>179249386
Between that and "what's in my pocket" there's a very apparent LOTR influence at play.
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>>179249329
what??? im saying is all of his weapons are not capable of his level, even the knight girl admitted that, Hes probably a platinum player but hiding under a silver name tag. All of his weapon will surely shatter after fighting some higher gobs but he just doesnt give a fuck. Being trained by a platinum player also gives him an edge.
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>>179242931
Ah! Yhe olde pretend to be dead while the rest of the party ambush the enemy, and priestess is ready to trap them so no survivors.
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So Goblin lord is the best place to end. The Oni could take three episodes. Are we going to focus on goblin slaying like this or more rape?
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>>179249505
Same, and I don't even like elves normally.
Is she the new "imagine" girl?
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>>179249469
Goblin slayer is not a platinum tier adventurer. Platinum tier adventurers are certified epic heroes who can with one mere swing cleave through half a dozen demons and other insane bullshit.
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>>179249556
CG can just visibly tell she's lost at that moment
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>>179249505
>>179249562
How much does she weight? Do we have official measures yet?
Asking for science.
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>>179249703
Is more clear in brand new day where Priestess nows more stuff about GS than CG herself.
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>>179249424
I actually kinda liked the "what's in my pocket" reference
Also the registration form for the Adventurer's Guild is a literal D&D character sheet.
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>>179249303
Probably
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>>179249290
>They don't actually go all that much into who The Doom Slayer is or where he came from

Incorrect. They don't outright state it, but the implication is that DOOM Slayer was a Night Sentinel from the first dimension to be taken over by hell, and that he betrayed everyone by allowing Hell to corrupt the Wraiths (those things you stab with the crucible at the end) in exchange for reviving his son, which ended badly (his son became the Icon of Sin).
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>>179241775
the anime episode that aired left out some details and it kind of fucked up GS's character a little bit. In the anime for example when it comes to the wizard girl who was poisoned he just says "It's too late for her" which kind of makes him look like an edgelord. In the manga he explains the poison is made from a mix of the goblins' feces, urine, and poisonous herbs and since it's already spread throughout her system not even an antidote would save her. It's a minor detail but it does show GS would save her if he could have. Biggest thing I've seen though is people are judging GS from the first episode alone and assuming he's just some kind of edgy dude out for revenge.
Revenge IS one of his motivations but it's not his only one. He's also doing it to help people. Most of the other high ranking adventurers are off chasing bigger fish and couldn't give two shits about the small villages being raided by goblins. GS is different. He genuinely cares about the lives of these lowly frontier villagers and wants to ensure their safety.
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>>179250094
Thats the real guts. He got sick of hiatus.
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>>179240436
You can't be this fucking stupid.
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>>179245508
He would never find out if it was good or not, he'd kill it immediately.
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>>179249591
Ya for reference (since it's trendy), Guts if he were to magically be transported into the GS universe would likely be platinum or gold ranked. Especially with his berserker armor
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>>179250094
GS's Guts looks like he has a happy life.
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>>179240436
Since you're serious, i'll chip in.
The biggest problems i have with Goblin Slayer are:
-The introduction is gratuitously edgy. This anon >>179241493 mentions Wyald, but here's the thing: everything Wyald does comes across natural in the context of the series, which itself seeks to tell a story. GS intro comes across as the writer going HURR LOOK AT ME I'M DECONSTRUCTING TROPES LOL THESE BLANK SLATE ARCHETYPES WOULD GET RAPED IN A GRIM FANTASY SETTING LMAO. Like seriously, it comes across as an edgy teenager's fanfiction. Wyald did do worse, but Miura did a splendid job creating a world where you can immerse yourself and accept something like that happening. It speaks volumes that i found GS intro more distasteful then any of Wyald's antics, even though he was quite worse.
-It makes no sense for goblins to be THAT underestimated if parties keep getting wiped and villages keep getting raided. It keeps getting brought up for a reason, if goblins are so horribly evil and also fairly cunning and effective there is no fucking way people would keep underestimating them.
>muh demon lords
If fucking goblins have a decent success rate wiping adventurers and people still treat them like vermin, how the fuck does anyone manage to get to the level where they can challenge a demon lord?
-It sets up a scenario where everyone is a retard so that MC using common sense looks like a genius.
I do like the idea and the character of Goblin Slayer.
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>>179250013
There's depictions in the game showing Doom Slayer in his very visibly distinct armor fighting alongside Night Sentinels. The Betrayer is a different character, who gets revenge on Hell (Who, surprise, betrayed him.) by giving the Doom Slayer the upgraded but still visibly Marine armor he has now.
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>>179250115
GS channeling superman here
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>>179250158
It's not really hard having a happier life then Guts.
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>>179250183
>HURR LOOK AT ME I'M DECONSTRUCTING TROPES
I don't really think it was attempting to deconstruct anything
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>>179250183
>If fucking goblins have a decent success rate wiping adventurers and people still treat them like vermin, how the fuck does anyone manage to get to the level where they can challenge a demon lord?
By killing sewer rats first.
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>>179250158
Not only does he get to keep his group of comrades he even has a knight girl that likes him
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>>179250183
>how the fuck does anyone manage to get to the level where they can challenge a demon lord?
by not being retards who die to goblins at level 1
natural selection
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>>179250183
>It makes no sense for goblins to be THAT underestimated if parties keep getting wiped and villages keep getting raided. It keeps getting brought up for a reason, if goblins are so horribly evil and also fairly cunning and effective there is no fucking way people would keep underestimating them.

Pretty much this. I hated how stupid the adventurers where, when the end shows that girls getting raped by goblins is a common ocurrence in their world. It broke the immersion.
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>>179250183
>It makes no sense for goblins to be THAT underestimated if parties keep getting wiped and villages keep getting raided. It keeps getting brought up for a reason, if goblins are so horribly evil and also fairly cunning and effective there is no fucking way people would keep underestimating them
I don't want to start shit, but look at the real world and history.
Do never underestimate the capacity people have to ignore catastrophes and sweat shit off just so they can keep going with their lives and avoid depression. We can even see it happening nowadays all the time.
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>>179250183
If you survive your first dungeon crawl your survival chances go way, way up just like regular combat.

It's rookie mistakes and underestimating the enemy that gets most of them killed. A fucking pamphlet of common mistakes would've saved Priestesses party.

The state and higher tier adventurers aren't dealing with the goblins because there's significantly bigger things going on, and as important as the overall agrarian structure is, the individual farms don't mean much and aren't able to pay enough to protect themselves.
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>>179244492
You aren't wrong.

God that Manga got weird though.
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>>179250299
He was attempting to come of as clever by writing baseline rpg characters facing off against ''cunning'' (read: using basic guerrilla tactics) villains, getting BTFO, and then meeting a horrific fate. Literal ''dude lmao golden age superman would get fucking destroyed by modern day batman'' tier writing.
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>>179250183
> If goblins kill the weak adventurers...
> ...how can strong adventurers fight demon lords

Anon....are you retarded?
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>>179250115
Except you're wrong, you fucking retard. GS says he has an antidote, but that it's too late. When Priestess incorrectly supposes that he could have saved the mage, he tells her that she would have just made her suffer more by not killing her. He's very much not an edgelord in that scene. He's merciful and is just carrying out the mage's own wishes.
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Are we going to see DM's imouto self-insert this season?
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>>179250436
You're making the mistake of believing that the goblins are being a real menace to the world at large. They're not.
And there's a big war going on against a new demon lord. Who the fuck gives a shit about some minor frontier town in the fucking bums?
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>>179250582
I think you're overthinking it. It's just to make you hate goblins
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>>179250645
> DONT TELL ME WHAT TO LIKE AND NOT LIKE

The source 90% of complaints about this show. It's about a guy who hates goblins, and why he hates goblins, and a bunch of fags want to not hate goblins because the story tells them to.
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You guys think GS's intent to make you REALLY HATE gobbos is an attack on the current western idea that there must be grey morality in every story and that black and white situations should be avoided?
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>>179250436
>when the end shows that girls getting raped by goblins is a common ocurrence in their world
It's a common occurance in frontier and small towns out of the way. Not nationwide
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>>179250397
>And they they never mention all the horrible rape caves they find and just go on with their lives?

>>179250445
I guess, but we have too much information nowadays, it's easy to drown out the important stuff. What do they have ''Say Jim, the neighboring village just got slaughtered by golbins and all the women were raped, how's the crops?''
>>179250461
>A fucking pamphlet of common mistakes would've saved Priestesses party.
And it doesn't exist why? What kind of psychopaths run this guild system when they just gleefully send people to get raped and murdered with zero warning?
>>179250436
>when the end shows that girls getting raped by goblins is a common ocurrence in their world. It broke the immersion.
This is what i'm talking about.
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>>179250791
Basically yeah it's coming full circle.
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>>179250791
No, it's just the author running his side DnD campaign about a guy and his party who kills goblins and he turned it into a dark fantasy
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>>179250645
But it makes me hate everyone else for being stupid too. Including the writer.
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>>179250836
>I guess, but we have too much information nowadays, it's easy to drown out the important stuff.
And they have too many actual monsters and threads nowadays, it's easy to drown out some boring old goblin attacks in towns nobody cares about by nobody adventurers
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>>179250836
>And it doesn't exist why?
It
Fucking
Does
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>>179250836
>And it doesn't exist why? What kind of psychopaths run this guild system when they just gleefully send people to get raped and murdered with zero warning?

Because most people are illiterate and the systems they have aren't adapting to the change yet. Part of the background of the story IS them adapting and improving survival rates. They're establishing training programs and mentoring new adventurers exactly because of this problem. But those systemic changes take a lot of time, and Goblins showing up in the numbers they have been and being an actual legitimate threat is relatively new.
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>>179250597
>if goblins, which are constantly wiping villages and parties, and are fairly cunning and organized, are considered stupid and easy prey, how fucking dangerous and underestimated are higher level monsters, and if the general mindset is underestimating goblins despite plenty of reason to the contrary, how does anyone get over something like vampires or actual demons
No, but you might be.
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>>179250611
No she is too busy [heavy metal]ing in hell land.
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>>179240436
no one compares GS to Berserk

they compare it to Dark Souls
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>>179250922
In fact, goblins are just a menace to poor frontier villages that can't even afford to hire some adventurers to slay some goblins.
The core regions of the kingdom ain't having any problem with no stinking goblins.
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>>179250183
If you read the Year One spin-off you'd see pretty much every other monster wipes dumb adventurers like nothing.

>Stay in the circle, use a helmet.
>Random adventurer proceeds to get his head melted by a slime
>Don't make loud noises, even our footsteps may attract the Rockeater
>Random adventurer proceeds to run yelling like an idiot to save a girl.

Sometimes I think the author has a hate boner for rookies RPG players or something like that.
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>>179250436
Read the fucking manga. Goblins attack small isolated villages people generally don't give a shit about. On top of that these villages are generally so poor they can barely even cover the service fee the guild charges much less offer enough of a reward to entice skilled adventurers. There's much more dangerous monsters and shit that even pose a threat to large cities and that's generally the main focus of adventurers, especially since being large cities they can actually afford more enticing rewards for adventurers
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https://twitter.com/Crunchyroll/status/1050530602452054016
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>>179251226
He's into DnD so I don't blame him
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Would you drink the Priestess warm Holy Water, a gift from the Mother Earth?
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>>179251019
Goblins have only recently become a major threat due to the poor current economic system on the frontier, though even now they still only really need a steel ranked party (of non-women) to clear out their nests. Essentially they're scaled for level 3-4 not level 1.
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Isn't it outright said even farmers can actually deal with Goblins on open ground, it's when they're in their home territory of dark caverns that they're dangerous to the unprepared?
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>>179251226
Do the people breed more then Goblins? Because adventurer is not exactly a common career, yet there is no shortage of them on the chopping block.
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>>179249556
Goblin Slaying, the only girls who get gobbed are met after the fact or in flash backs, at least so far in the manga. I suppose the shields are still in the act of getting gobbed, man that's gonna cause a shitstorm if the first episode did.
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>>179251242
I feel like in a year, people are going to look back at the reaction to this and think everybody was retarded. I mean most people already think that but it's like how people look back at themselves when they thought Elfen Lied was the deepest goriest anime of all time
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>>179250847
much needed

>>179250867
who knows, even if youre right its already doing that, too many sjw types cry about how GS fails to "engage" with the subject or "ask questions", assuming that it needs to do those things in the first place
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>>179251260
is the goddess actually Aqua from konosuba. then i would aquas self insert purified pee pee
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>>179251382
>, too many sjw types cry about how GS fails to "engage" with the subject or "ask questions"
Nobody actually pays attention to those people, certainly not the Japanese, in the first place
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>>179251278
This, also IIRC they stated as of late the number of goblins per horde and commanding goblins (like the shaman and the hobgoblin) increased and that's why villages were getting overwhelmed or something like that
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>>179251432
>Nobody actually pays attention to those people
>Nobody
Half the people complaining about this have hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of people subscribers on youtube
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>>179250611
Probalby not. If I recall, she doesn't actually appear until volume 3, and not even the manga has gotten that far yet.
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>>179251382
>>179251432
God I'm so happy we're talking about this dumb bullshit controversy again. Really missed it.
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>>179251476
I should be more specific. People who aren't newfag children don't pay attention to them
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>Bwa bwa why the goblins arent taken sriously
In a world filled with 50000 types of monsters goblins are at the bottom
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>>179251432
Nobody really cares about twitter types, save for shitstorm potential, but this kind of attitude goes higher up in the chain

based nips tho

>>179251509
its not dumb controversy, whether a story needs to be grey in its morality is a perfectly fine topic with deep cultural and political implications
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Does the new episode premiere saturdays or sundays?
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>>179251129
Actually, it's
>'DARK SOULS™ meets LORD OF THE RINGS™ meets GAME OF THRONES™: The Anime!'
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>>179251583
>GS Sundays after church

can you imagine
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>>179251531
mmm someone have that comic of a dragon raping an adventure?
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>>179251531
lmao if that was true, the world would be much more under martial laws.
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>>179251672
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How would Geralt the Witcher and Goblin Slayer interact?
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>>179251705
there are 9 million different animals in the world
50000 different monsters is nothing
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>>179251722
poor abomination :(
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Gobdong
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>>179251597
Are you implying that Dark Souls, LOTR, and ASOIAF aren't impeccable works of art?
Gobbo Slayo isn't in the same realm. It's just another edgelord isekai.
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>>179251774
Compete to see who can clean out a nest of goblins in the most creative way possible
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>>179251787
Anon you’re retarded.
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>>179251574
No, it's really not. Media always has a mix between content that seeks to explore nuanced positions and those that don't. There is no "Current western idea" about grey morality. It's always been there and stories that didn't engage with it have always been there. Stories will always be written to reflect, either as critique or compliment, to other stories. Lord of the Flies was written because the author saw another story where boys were in a similar position but everything went fine.
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>>179247036

I think that was sarcasm he was using, dumbass.
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>>179250436
I'm guessing you think the country pays for the quests or gold just magically falls out of the sky which pays for the quests. That's not the case. The rewards are provided by the quest givers themselves and as demonstrated in the manga these tiny ass villages can barely offer shit. Nobody except for maybe a small group of porcellian adventurers would be interested in the mere pennies the villages would have to offer.
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>>179251432
>certainly not the Japanese
https://twitter.com/chounamoul/status/1038423907697446912

Stop being so fucking ignorant, this kinda shit is really common in Japan now.
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>>179251902
Just because content is always mixed, it doesnt mean that there arent dominant trends and currents.
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>>179250183
What do you mean parties keep getting wiped and villages keep getting raided?
You're the one that overestimated them, so far they never able to beat anything near silver rank.
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>>179251965
that guy isnt japanese
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>>179251242
>They had TV-PG as rating

Is almost like they don't watch the shit they're publishing. That or they wanted to stir shit up
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>>179252046
That doesn't have a lot to do with projecting a perceived new western cultural struggle onto an author that in all likelihood has nothing to do with it.
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>>179251965
I can't read that but I was trying to say Japan doesn't really care about GS' content
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Teen cowgirl is for getting raped by thousands of goblins!!!
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>>179252192
Thats why I presented it as a question. And later on considered that it may not be intentional, even if its having that effect.
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people are so used to video game isekai shit, they cant handly fantasy that doesnt use video game mechanics
>how can they fight a dragon if they can die to a weak enemy like that??
>they should have more hitpoints and defense!
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>>179247623
Wasn't the mage in the middle already gobbed off-screen? I seem to recall there was something like that when we were told her story... that or she was saved just before being gobbed, and this is why she always sell scrolls dirt-cheap to goblinslayer.

Also, does it count as being gobbed of goblinslayer does the deed? I wouldn't be surprised if we see Goblinslayer take Elfs virginity or something... or vice versa.
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>>179252283
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>>179251722
Dragons have barbed dick righ?
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>>179252283
BIG STEPPY! BIG STEPPY!
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>>179251242
Now I wonder how many people are going to complain that changing the rating is not enough and this Anime wouldn't be aired anywhere
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>>179252558
Not really. Rape its inherently sexual, so I dont mind if its presented that way. As long as it isnt overdone as to look appealing.

I dont know man, it looked pretty traumatic to me.
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>>179248392
HNNNG
MUH
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>>179252469
what did they mean by this?
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>>179240436
Both of them had rape in it for the shock factor only. Let's not kid ourselves here. In almost any form of media that isn't autobiographical, rape is used to shock.
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>>179249205
Too bad the concept of well written blonde heroine is too alien for most anons.
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>>179249205
Your taste is so shit you may just be a goblin.

EVERY girl is best girl in GS.
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>>179249205
If Elf didn't constantly demand that Goblinslayer stopped using some of his most effective means of killing goblins, she would have been ranked higher than Priestess. Think about it. Elf comes up with her own plans and effectively kills goblins while Priestess, albeit effective when given specific instructions, is pretty much worthless in combat or strategy meetings if nobody orders her what to do.
>>179252283
IMHO Cowgirls personality and design was better when she was a jailbait. Once her tits started growing for real she looked and behaved more like a big titty barmaid.
>>179248906
Rance loves his waifu because she is subserviant to him and worshipped him since day one. The fact that she is a constant and has pretty much been with him since the beginning is the reason why she is so dear to him. Cowgirl is not like that. She is just a memory of the past. The character in the Goblinslayer to comes closest to filling the same role would be Priestess.
>>179249505
Later Priestess etc forces Elf to start wearing panties.
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>>179252558
The female mage asks to be put out of her misery because she doesn't want to live with it. Seems pretty traumatic to me.
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>>179253015
She asks to be put out of her misery because she's been poisoned and there's no hope of surviving anyway at that point.
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>>179253015
I think she knew she was done for and just wanted to end it quickly
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>>179252558
Isn't this anime just an asanagi style monster rape NTR hentai with an iseki rpg setting and an overpowered self insert?
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>>179247501
These "peaceful goblins" will kick his shit in if ever decides to fight them. See the redcaps.
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>>179253015
Lmao sex is only traumatic if the guy is ugly
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>>179247623
>amazon
>gobbed
That snu-snu would be the last thing that poor bastards would see.
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>>179248304
DOOM 2016 sounds like it had a bitch as a main character.
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>>179251531
The goblins are weaker than Slimes and Rat-monsters? Or don't those monster exist in the Goblinslayer world?

>>179248827
>Silver
Silver is plenty. From what we have been shown about the reward for taking out goblins it seems to be next to nothing. Even if GoblinSlayer has been going at it for years every single day, can you imagine the amount of goblins he must have killed? Rather, except for when Elf and her group brings him on adventure, have we ever seen him travel the world any? The way he operates seem to suggest that he has been killing goblins in the same general area around the guild.
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>>179248392
>not drinking right from the "spring"
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>>179253201
He is specialized in fighting gobos. Give him prep time and he can set up traps to deal with them.
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>>179252177
Read the CR description, it's simultaneously dull, wrong, hilarious and makes GS sound like a generic native isekai.
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>>179253255
That's why gobbos have champions.
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Dude one of the first few chapters of Berserk had a fucking baby be impaled on a spear while the guy w was drinking it's blood. No shit Berserk is more edgy. It still boggles my mind how Berserk is never considered edgyshit but shows like Akame ga kill and Mirai Nicki are. People say the edge happens for a reason but shit like the troll arc in berserk literally had nothing to do with main story and if you had removed it from the manga you would have never known the story felt like it skipped an arc.
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>>179253302
there are giant rats and slimes
goblins are about the same level
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>>179253201
>peaceful
literally invading species.
takes over a piece of land from another nation.
attacks people trying to reclaim it.
literal isis
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>>179253428
>rescuing that party
oh boy
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>>179250135
What if he was injured and could not move? and the goblin saved his life and then nursed him back to life? I'd argue that Goblinslayer would kill the goblin the minute he was healed enough to raise his own sword, but up until that moment he would have been able to see that the goblin was not evil.
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>>179253302
Slimes in tabletop rpg are not easy beginner type monsters like Dragon Quest slimes with their iconic cute faces.
They're facemelting dangerous hazards striking from unexpected corners.
Beginner type monsters for the adventurers in the Goblin Slayer world to be cleared by are giant rats and giant cockroaches. They're big targets, are not sapient, and do not hide that well.
Goblins are more dangerous because they're sapient. Slimes are very dangerous because they're highly acidic.
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>>179253428
im glad he managed to save all those rookies
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>>179252999
Priestess become submissive when GS around, when she take independent quest like in 1st & 3rd drama cd and some off screen adventure, she use better tactic than GS. She even smooth talked Elf to accept & carry her plan.
She did eventually stop getting order from GS and GS start following her correction in his plan.
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I can see why people would think it's isekai depending on where they're reading it. Whoever did the scanalation on Mangarock is a fucking idiot.
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>>179253523
Saving 50% of them is not a bad result.
>but muh monk
Still physically alive. Might not adventure anymore and probably be mentally traumatized, but oh well. She obviously wasn't cut out to be an adventurer in the first place.
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>>179253602
signs of autism: does not recognize jokes
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>>179253475
>literally invading species.
They just defended their homeland.
>takes over a piece of land from another nation.
The village is an autonomous region and the kingdom's army tried to attack it for no good reason.
>attacks people trying to reclaim it.
They're even kind enough to let the leader of the kingdom's army go.
If they hadn't been peaceful, they would have beheaded him and sent his head to his daddy as a gift, then proceeded to conquer his whole country.
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>>179251523
People who aren't newfag children are the ones running the world and the ones having the power to gut the internet, 4chan and countless other platforms for expression.
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>>179247996
DOOM 1 = Mars and its moons get fucked, Doomguy kills shit > DOOM 2 = Doomguy goes to earth, demons come to kill shit, get killed like shit > some other stuff like Plutonia if you wanna include that > Doom 64 = Doomguy fights more fucking demons, stays in hell to keep the demons from ever returning > Some thousands of years later becomes superhuman thanks to argent energy, gets armor & kills a titan & locked in a chest under a temple for a while > Doom 2016
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>>179253428
>Pulling a Spec Ops: The Line
I like it. People are walking into a rapefest and don't even know it
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>>179253015
The problem here is how it was done. It's lazy hence why it feels edgy. Rape is almost always hackey due to it being the first thing that pops to your head if you wish tragedy on a woman.

Only rape I can think of that's somehow feels like there was effort put into it was Rose's in the original FMA. No scenes for shock value, just hints and they left it to the audience to piece it together. Also fits with the whole military/war sucks theme of the OG FMA.
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>>179253576
Eh, people just really really want it to be a D&D isekai thing like Overlord so they can jump on /tg/ and attempt to recreate that kinda of experience.
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>>179253302
Rats have lycan & slime in faculty ruin kill every inhabitant there, which is full of mages, and every adventurers the guild send there, to the point the quest remain "scouting quest" for a really long time because nobody knows what the fuck is going on.
Then Guild Girl & Elf convince Priestess to take the quest.
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>>179253819
Goblins rape because they're evil. Goblins are evil monsters. They're evil monsters created by the gods to be evil monsters that the adventurers can kill to their hearts content without having to negotiate or think about any moral conundrums. This pleases the gods, for it makes awesome stories to see adventurers kill hordes of evil goblins, then going up to kill hordes of evil skeletons, followed up by hordes of evil demons, and then later hordes of evil demon dragons, until they've fought their way up to evil demon dragon lords, vanquishing them, and saving the world.

Then the cycle continues again, and new villains and new heroes arise to create a new awesome story.
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>>179253721
pls atleast try to twist things your way, dont blatantly lie.
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>>179252754
>Both of them had rape in it for the shock factor only.
Not really. The rape in GoblinSlayer was there to establish what type of manga it was from the get go. We didn't get any buildup of the characters and the characters themselves are basically just character slates as they don't even have names. Notice that any and all rapes that happen afterwards are just on the side-lines and not really focused upon in the story. We already had the setup so now the raping and murdering is just part of what we already know can happen. This is the difference between goblinslayer and Berserk. In the world of Berserk we already know that how things can go, yet the focus is still there. It is not treated as the every day occurrence in that manga.

>>179250183
>Like seriously, it comes across as an edgy teenager's fanfiction.
No, that would be Overlord.
>Wyald did do worse, but Miura did a splendid job creating a world where you can immerse yourself and accept something like that happening.
hat is because what happens in GoblinSlayer is not the main story. It is a story about nobodies. A story about the everyday life of people getting raped and killed. Even in a world of heroes, normal people will still get raped and murdered by the weakest monsters. Because even the weakest monsters, when outnumbering the people they attack, will be a threat to normal people. Even a hero is a normal person in a sense so if a hero gets a dagger in his throat he will die as easily as a villager.
>I found GS intro more distasteful then any of Wyald's antics,
That's because Wyald is set in the fantastic, while what happened at the start of Goblinslayer, is set in the mundane.

to be continued. --->
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What GS's master had in his pocket?
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>>179247501
>>179253201
>>179247539
You are missing a point. These goblins can speak and don't rape. Therefore they are not goblins, well not the goblins of the world from GS.
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>>179254199
his dick
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Can I ask where you guys read the manga from? I'd like to read it (pref download) but idk from where.
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>>179254199
Obviously a magical ring of invisibility that cannot be destroyed except when thrown into volcanoes.
Now, meta wise, it's an impossible riddle that makes the Goblin Slayer realize that sometimes, there's simply no answer to the problem he seeks.
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>>179254212
I doubt GS will care. He will kill anything as long as it is labelled "goblin". His mind isn't really stable after all.
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>>179254036
Did you read the LN? All I said was the truth.
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>>179254199
A magic wand that can change sizes under certain certain circumstances.
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>>179253825
It kind of alludes to it by itself >>179249872
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>>179254284
Search Goblin Slayer danke-empire
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>>179254156
>Like seriously, it comes across as an edgy teenager's fanfiction.
>No, that would be Overlord.
How many rapes do you see in Overlord?
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>>179253758
Doom 2016 is a reboot, not a sequel. Because Doom fans are content with their grappling shotgun hook than a good lore. Fanbase is too stupid to eat that shit.
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If what happens to the characters is such a common occurrence why did they think they wouldn't get raped and murdered

They seemed like idiots and the world building seems dumb
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>>179253825
Goblin Slayer is much more of a /tg/ thing than Overlord though since it isn't an isekai. It plays out exactly like a dnd/pathfinder campaign with a tough dm.
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>>179254284
Fanfox (Mangafox) has both main and side story.
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>>179254156
>We didn't get any buildup of the characters and the characters themselves are basically just character slates as they don't even have names.
I mean they don't have names because its DnD inspired.
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>>179254438
Forced sounding is rape.
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>>179254372
>other worlds beings, summoned with an item from another world
>homeland
are you retarded?
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>>179253509
>Beginner type monsters for the adventurers in the Goblin Slayer world to be cleared by are giant rats and giant cockroaches. They're big targets, are not sapient, and do not hide that well.
Even then that side story with the two porcelain kids showed that even giant rats and cockroaches can fucking kill you dead if you aren't careful.
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>>179242906
I don't mean it harms him, it just keeps him stuck in the past.
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>>179254484
Who was forced? Other than Tsuare of course.
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>>179254452
Because they're dumb hick folk who were too stupid to get potions. Of course they were idiots. The first mission of adventurers weeds out the retards
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>>179254464
>Goblin Slayer is much more of a /tg/ thing
No, no. GS is way too nonsensical to be a setting. It belongs to /a/. We're fed up with that shit.
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>>179254464
Man my favorite dnd sessions have been with a dm that wants you dead but autistically adheres to the rules/tries to keep it believable.
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>>179254319
Joke aside he actually had a magic ring
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>>179254532
The one summoned them was Enri, who was born in that village and summons are basically part of the summon.
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>>179254623
t./a/utismo
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>>179254452
Because newbie adventurers are usually too high on their own strength because they're uneducated morons from villages. It is stated that for some there's almost no other line of work.
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>>179240436
Goblin Slayer is barely a manga just a self insert fantasy comparing it to Berserk(literally the greatest manga of all time) is retarded.
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>>179254464
>It plays out exactly like a dnd/pathfinder campaign with a tough dm.
It doesn't senpai, people haven't played D&D campaigns like Goblin Slayer for over two decades, people actively hate campaigns like it.

Overlord is literally just epic level 3.5.
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>>179254603
one of the guys captured during the workers raid got forcibly sounded by a spiky stick
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>>179254464
/tg/ had countless discussions about it's lore and unanimously decided that it's awful. Your rape fetish isekai simply doesn't belong to our board.
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>>179254544
Of course. Anything can kill you if you're not careful and make too many mistakes.
One should never make too many mistakes and be too cocky.
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>>179254698
100000000 IQ post right there.
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>>179254428
On nyaa.si redirects to Novel torrents. On Google just on random chapters posts on reddit and /a/.

Can't seem to find a nice ddl of every chapter till now
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Why does something being 'edgy' automatically mean it's bad?
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>>179240436
How are the LN's? I am eyeing them on Amazon right now.
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>>179254623
>GS is way too nonsensical to be a setting.
What do you even mean by this?

>>179254625
That's always my favorite way to play ttrpgs.

>>179254755
And the lore for most peoples homebrew settings are awful. That's why it works.
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>>179254199
Goblins
It's goblins all the way down
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>>179250183
Oh but you see goy. Goblins being (((underestimated))) is a vital part of the plot.
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>>179254712
That's because everyone quickly levels up away from beginner levels, when goblins cease to matter as enemies, simply because their attack bonuses can't keep up with the high armor classes, tons of hit points and even more tons of damage negating and attack evading abilities and magic items, making it simply not worth it for a GM to keep throwing goblins and other 1 HD monsters at higher leveled player characters.
After goblins, you simply have to switch up to higherleveled enemies to provide an interesting challenge as well.
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>>179254766
Search in archive
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>>179254766
I don't think anyone made a batch yet, just download each chapters. Also GS has 3 manga.
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>>179254733
There is nothing sexual about it, just a from of interrogation.
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>>179254759
I know but I find it odd that people are going 'why are people dying to the low level enemies, shouldn't these be a bigger priority to the government?' It's like people don't understand the idea of there being bigger and more important problems, it's like asking why doesn't the US government do something about the rust belt, because on the national governmental level, the problems of the sticks doesn't fucking matter that much.
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>>179250183
>It makes no sense for goblins to be THAT underestimated
No it does, because goblins are not THAT cunning to begin with. They can easily be killed even in large numbers as long as you don't act like a moron. It is because they are weak and pathetic and not that smart that people get killed by them. The world of Goblinslayer does not have "levels". Even the strongest barbarian die if gets a dagger in his throat. All it takes for a single goblin to play dead (something even some animals can do so it doesn't take that much cunning) and the second he turns his back to it, the goblin can kill him. This is why Goblinslayer always makes sure that every goblin really is dead for real.
Also as I explained in this post here: >>179245142
>the goblins are insignificant on a whole. Even if several hundred girls are killed and raped over a period of ten years, compared to the danger other creatures pose and the amount of people those creatures can and do kill, a couple of hundred women getting raped wouldn't really be enough for them to be considered a real threat.
>179250436
>girls getting raped by goblins is a common occurrence in their world. It broke the immersion.
On the whole if the world is threatened by demonlords, female adventurers getting raped would not really be something anyone would raise an eyebrow at. The goblins are stupid. The guild secretary even lamented over the fact that nobody would actually have to die, if the damn rookies didn't act like rookies. Say if they had a system where a veteran goblinslayer or two showed them the ropes things could have been different.
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>>179254921
>After goblins, you simply have to switch up to higherleveled enemies to provide an interesting challenge as well.
Have you ever read about Tucker's Kobolds before? That's kind of how Goblin Slayer handles goblins, and keeps them interesting for higher level players.
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>>179254971
interrogation by rape, sexual torture
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>>179254761
Whether you have the taste to recognize how good Berserk is if GS isn't your first manga you should see it has little content or substance even compared to most shonen.
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>>179254828
Amateurish, very amateurish, they have major pacing problems, Kagyu didn't really have any clue how to structure a story in the beginning and was way too influenced by the American pulp format which translated horribly to light novels.
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>>179254855
>What do you even mean by this?
When someone decides to make a thread about a GS roleplay, threads usually derail into stuff like alignment issues and the world building. That's why I called it nonsensical because the lore hardly gives any clue into them.
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>>179250183
>HURR LOOK AT ME I'M DECONSTRUCTING TROPES LOL THESE BLANK SLATE ARCHETYPES WOULD GET RAPED IN A GRIM FANTASY SETTING LMAO.
That isn't the takeaway. They didn't get fucked because they're blank slate tropes, they got fucked metaphorically and literally because they were unprepared, unexperienced, and underestimated what's perceived as a noob monster.
>It speaks volumes that i found GS intro more distasteful then any of Wyald's antics, even though he was quite worse.
Actually, that says more about you than it does about either story.
>It makes no sense for goblins to be THAT underestimated if parties keep getting wiped and villages keep getting raided. It keeps getting brought up for a reason, if goblins are so horribly evil and also fairly cunning and effective there is no fucking way people would keep underestimating them.
It makes perfect sense and is explained in the next one or two chapters. Goblins are a problem, but even if the first party sent gets wiped, then group two or three will easily finish the quest. The implication here is that the first party getting fucked up is ignored because the second party just had to do clean up, and as a result they don't learn anything. Usually,' encounters with goblins only go as far as driving them away from villages, like noob Fighter was bragging about.
>If fucking goblins have a decent success rate wiping adventurers and people still treat them like vermin, how the fuck does anyone manage to get to the level where they can challenge a demon lord?
Goblins being a threat is the point, most adventurers either luck out or barely encounter them and thus don't take them as a serious threat. We do learn that other cultures most certainly do, and would even be willing to send an army to wipe them out.
>It sets up a scenario where everyone is a retard so that MC using common sense looks like a genius.
Not a genius, just pragmatic and vigilant. And just against goblins.
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>>179250115
Anyone who read the LN and manga would know that a fair chunk of explanatory dialogue from Goblin Slayer has to be cut out just for the sake of time constraints.

If it didnt then it would take at least 2 episodes to get out of the goblin cave, especially if they didn't cut the backstories of the other adventurers.
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>>179255036
this
its not that goblins are fiendishly clever, its that the characters are acting so god damn stupid and refuse to do any kind of prep or planning, thinking they'll be fine if they just anime their way through the encounter.
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>>179252747
He tried to use that sword in some goblin rape cave and it wasnt easy.
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>>179241983

>watching your first teammates getting raped and mauled is an unimportant obstacle to overcome
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>>179250611
So that raises the question.

1. Is the DM and his little sister, humans and in some weird meta-way them playing the game somehow creates a real world that they are unaware of...
2. Is the wolrd of goblinslayer not really happening at all but just make-pretend/"what if it was real" sort of thing?

or

3. is the DM and his sister actually gods of some sort that are aware that the game is actually real?
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>>179254650
I see, when leftist invite all kinds of sand niggers into my country, they magically turn natives of my country.
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>>179254452
On my first quest in a D&D campaign something similar happen, my party got split, and I didn't have potions even though I insisted to go back to the town and get some before entering.

Guess who got an arrow to the throat and nearly died 15 minutes in?
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>>179255090
Thanks Anon, going to search around and see if I can find a free copy or two to get the gist of it, before buying anything.
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>>179255046
Actually, the goblins in the Goblin Slayer setting do not act that intelligently or out of the ordinary, if one reads their common description in the D&D monster manuals. The goblins are really just trash mobs that do get killed by the dozens by Goblin Slayer and his party.
They seem more dangerous than one expects because we see random low level adventurers doing stupid mistakes and paying the price for it.
But in truth, they are and do remain pathetic cannon fodder minions whose only relevant traits is to try to overwhelm relevant characters.

It's not like goblins are setting up complex dungeons and dungeon traps with rolling stones and crushing walls or automated crossbow traps.
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>>179255243
So you consider leftists part of your country?
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>>179243794

I just love how autistic he is
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>>179255231
Number 3.
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>>179254828
The writing can be incredibly repetitive at times. They're no literary masterpiece, but they're still fun if you can put up with the fact that they use the same words a lot and describe the same thing the same way almost every time it's described, the story and characters are still fun and there's enough variety in what actually happens to keep things interesting.

Word of warning - volume 4 is a collection of short stories that mostly don't focus on GS himself. While there's some characterization for characters we would never otherwise see, and one story gave me one of the best laughs I've had in a while, the volume is ultimately filler.
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will priestess get a shota bf who will die in front of her turning her into the female gob slayer?
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How i see adventure ranking in DnD lvls

Porcelain 1-2
Obsidian 3-4
Steel 5-6
Sapphire 7-8
Emerald 9-10
Ruby 11-12
Bronze 13-14
Silver 15-16
Gold 17-18
Platinum 19-20

So GS is 15 lvl ranger/fighter multiclass. Am i right?
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>>179254924
>>179254766
I've searched archive @ desuarchive.org and dling every single one. Latest is 28 right? How often does a new one come out? Anyways thanks for the help. I'll make a batch and put it somewhere later
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>>179254755
They usually shut up when DM side story getting posted and realize it is not D&D based story. It is an adventure module with player's log.
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>>179254319
The Rhea can actually turn invisible so it is probably a ring of invisibility
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>>179255425
Every month. no idea for the spin-off, they're canon though so you might wanna read them too.
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>>179244160

He just likes the hunting

He'll move onto the next low end monster species after he's done
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>>179255329
Tucker's kobolds didn't really set up complex dungeons either, or act very intelligent. They just did things like set up ambushes or run around in small tunnels that bigger people can't move through, just like the goblins. They both aren't played very intelligent, but compared to how dm's usually player monsters, anything other than "run up towards the player and attack them" is intelligent. People act really really dumb in dnd, they never expect something to act as if it's actually trying to survive.
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>>179255231
The gods aren't players, they aren't controlling anybody, they're in-universe real gods manipulating fate (dice/rolls) for entertainment, the world of Goblin Slayer is actually happening.
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>>179255231
Wait, when was it revealed that she was his little sister?
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>>179255425
Montly
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>>179255407
No, that's a misconception. Rank does not correlate to level or power. It's a mix of how skilled/experienced an adventurer you are, the amount of quests you've completed and how trustworthy the guild thinks you are. You could be the most skilled ranger in existence, but if you're a shitty person the guild won't promote you.
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>>179255558
>>179255497

Archives go till 10th. And some links do not worth either.. lol
Luckly I found a torrent from 1 to 24.. So I added the remaining ones to the folder...
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>>179255511
Clearly tells a lot about players themselves.
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>>179255231
The gods just make the scenarios, give out handouts, and make overpowered PCs as MCs. They dont do much outside of that, though.
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>>179255360
unfortunately. and earth is round and not a hollow doughnut no matter how i wished otherwise. this is about facts, not opinions.
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>>179252558
>I don't see it as a traumatic experience, just an edgy fanservice scene.

So how would you make a rape scene that isn't just "edgy fanservice"? I'm genuinly curious how you faggots would do it and wanna know how the rape scene in GS is fanservice to begin with
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>>179255653
>Clearly tells a lot about players themselves.
I'm not sure if its just because players have gotten too comfortable with their dm's trying their best not to kill them, or if players are actually that dumb.
I mean I've got a reputation for being a ruthless dm that tries to kill his players, but I usually think I'm pretty soft on them, and people only die when they fuck up badly.
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Be goblin expecting some cutie to rape. Somehow this theme song starts to be heard in the faint distance of the cave. You don't know why, but something is not gonna end well.
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>>179253758
Plutonia and TNT have nothing to do with the main story. They were just megawads that were created by Team TNT and acquired by id.
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>>179255036
>a system where a veteran goblinslayer or two showed them the ropes things could have been different.
It takes time and money to employ such people, with the exception of GS who has a personal stake in eliminating goblins. Raising a militia is something a town could do, but it's not something an independent, unaffiliated organization would be doing, free of charge.
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>>179255510
>He'll move onto the next low end monster species after he's done
No, he won't. Goblins are the only species he has a reason to despise to the point of dedicating his life to their extermination. Once they're all dead, maybe he'll finally go on that quest Elf so desperately wants to take him on.
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>>179255231
There're others DM class gods too, Dark Elf in 3rd volume getting his oracle from Chaos.
It is still unknown who give Priestess oracle during autumn festival.
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>>179255407
Yes, probably has rogue class and maybe a barbarian class too since he has rage boosts.
Goblin Champions should be lv 15 or so, this is the problem though since there should be serious goblin threats but noone has ever seen high level goblins except gs.
The only explanation is that there is a massive powerful horde hidden somewhere that kills everyone which never gets their location and members exposed.
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>>179256048
>even goblin has a better looking swords and shields than GS
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>>179255924
>be gobbo
>this theme starts playing instead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46MALEk-7cE
>dude what
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Anybody read the original in Japanese? What kinda tone does the Goblin Slayer himself have innit? The translated manga always made me think he's kinda controlled but aggressive in mood. The animeme however makes him sound emotionless.
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>>179256136
The "Slayer" has awoken.
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>>179256176
His voice has been described as mechanical.
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>>179241620
The MC is by far the best part of the story. Watching for him is a great reason.
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>>179256211
When will the anime get to this? Will it be season 2?
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>>179254603
>>179254438
Never said anything about rape, but sure... we have Arche and her party. Depending on if it is the manga, the lighnovel or the webnovel it all seems to be written to be edgy. Where she becomes anally raped or gets torns to pieces etc, her party members don't fare much better. What makes the Overlord story "edgelord" stuff has more to do with how the story itself is treated. Ainz himself was/is a loser neet that once he got stuck in the new world decides that since he played a monster in the game, it is okay for him to act like a monster in a real world. That is the worst part. Ainz is not a monster, he is just playing one. It is the worst type of isekai where the OP reborn protagonist act like a complete dick.
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Nothing stops this motherfucka. filled with perpetual agony, the Slayer has chosen the path of perpetual gore and guts to exterminate every single goblin in existence and anyone or anything that stands in his way.


He is....Goblin Slayer!!!!
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>>179256427
Love may stop him...
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>>179255971
He love meta gaming, even when against non-goblin. So no, he'll continue become adventurer with Priestess since she also like meta gaming, worse than GS actually.
Sorry Elf.
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>>179256427
>Faced down with absolute monstrosity that he is in no way equipped to fight
>Reacts only with a "feh" of disappointment
I just can't get enough of this guy
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>>179256505
But anon that's what worries me, what if love makes him soft and causes him to slip up resulting in a horrific incident that'll only compound his trauma and make him shut his heart even more.
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>>179256613
He will drink the very darkness that engulfs goblins to become the true goblin slayer.
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>>179240436
The difference is that Miura can actually write worth a damn. And there are two kinds of rape in Berserk, those that further character development (Guts, Casca, Griffith) and than the garden variety rape that is either the result of humans or monsters. The latter was edgy at first but then the Golden Age arc happens and it starts to be sparingly used. There are even Goblin's raping in Berserk but it didn't phase me because it made sense. But a lot of my good will towards the rape in berserk comes from the fact that the story has earned it's edge. During the first volumes it hadn't, but after all this time and all the quality I can swallow anything Miura puts into his story.

Goblin Slayer starts off with with the edge just like Berserk but unlike the latter, it hasn't gotten to the point where it's good enough to put that stuff in without people bitching about edge.
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>>179240436
Berserk does this fairly well, we see Guts get raped as a child, and that actually matters. First of all, he's someone the audience actually cares about rather than some random throwaway fuckdoll. Second, it actually factors into his character. The first time he and Caska tried to bang, he remembered that one time with Big Black Bubba and flipped the fuck out. That shows that what happened actually had a fucking impact on his character, which rape -should- do. Then we have the Eclipse, where Caska is raped by Griffith. The experience was extremely traumatic for her, and she's still kinda broken to this day. As she should be, the man she used to love just raped her on a pile of corpses in front of the person she currently loves, while he himself was heavily wounded. Not only that, but it served the dual purpose of showing just how irredeemable Griffith had become. He only had to kill the Band of the Hawk to ascend. The rape was entirely his choice, done as a form of revenge against the man he perceived as being responsible for everything he worked for falling to shit. Sure, the series has moments where there's rape for the sake of rape (like the trolls), but this is at least done to cement that demons are horrible monsters, and sometimes humans are equally as bad.

THAT is how you handle rape. If all your audience feels when something as traumatic as rape happens is "Oh, this again. Whatever, I don't care, it won't matter in the long run anyways", then you have royally screwed the pooch. Your job as a storyteller is to make the audience feel, if all your audience feels at what should be a grim event like the first chapter of Goblin Slayer is apathy or mild irritation, you have failed to do your job and should seriously reconsider what you're doing, cause clearly you have done something wrong.

That's it, I'm done. Rant over, 3/10, I doubt I'll be keeping up with this series. If I do, it'll be solely for Goblin Slayer himself.
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>>179240436
Seriously, what the fuck is up with manga and rape? I'm not saying I don't want rape in any stories ever, all I'm asking is that they give it some fucking weight. Most titles that include rape use it poorly, as a thing to just shock the reader with no build up or attachment to the character. "Oh, I don't know this girl and have no real reason to care if she dies, but now she's getting raped so now I feel shocked and sad for her" is essentially what they think it does. And then they move on and that scene contributes almost nothing to the story. "That's our shock scene, we now return you to your regular programming".

Stop. Fucking. Doing this, please.

It pisses me off to no end. What's even worse is that it's other function is to serve as fapbait. When your story uses what' intended to be grim shit as fapbait, and the goal isn't to make the viewer realize they're just a little fucked up (ala Evangelion), you have fucked up. If you want to put rape in your story, fine, be my guest, but PLEASE make it actually matter for something more than a cheap shock/fapbait
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>>179256596
Goblin Slayer obviously does not have any ranks in Knowledge (Nature) to identify a giant (ogre).
>but he's a ranger, he ought to have Knowledge (Nature)
He obviously put ranks in Knowledge (Local), because that's what allows him to identify humanoids (goblins). If untrained in Knowledge skills, you can only succeed on a basic Difficulty Check 10 to know very normal stuff, like for example that the being in front of you is not a goblin. The DC to identify a creature is 10 + the amount of hit dice it has.
That's how D&D 3.x rules work, hilariously.

Taken to absurd logical conclusions that such rules would impose if taken as representing the world realistically, most peasants there don't know what the heck a cow or a horse is.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNkQMtZAMAw

Goblin Slayer has a whole playlist of "happy" songs for gobbos.

In the brink of madness and death, the very forces of hell shall grant his final request at the expense of his crew. Just as berserk did before.
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>>179256613
Good thing his waifu is a finely crafted mary sue that support his genocide, can pull asspull when necessary and give good advice whenever he try to do something stupid.
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>>179256730
You neglected to mention that Guts developed a severe aversion to being touched and any sort of casual physical contact which resulted in him lashing out against the Hawks that did it, which only earned him curious glances, something rape victims frequently do. He finally snapped out of it when Pippin lifted him up and just threw him into water.
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>>179256689
>the only way a story can have grimdark elements is if it's a decades old project that is considered the magnum opus of the genre
I know that's not exactly what you're saying but when you're saying that only Berserk has 'earned' the ability to have such elements in its story, it's putting such a high pedestal that is nigh impossible to reach.
Am I saying Goblin Slayer is as good as Berserk? Of fucking course not, but I am saying that when you say that only a story that is heralded as one of the best of the medium is worthy of such elements is unreasonable.

Also yes I personally think people should stop comparing Goblin Slayer to Berserk, it's a stupid comparison to make.
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is there any reason other than demographics why only girls get raped by goblins, and never dudes? goblins are willing to brutally torture and mutilate both guys and girls, but they only ever rape girls
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>>179242854
Come on now, anon.
This isn't even cherry-picking; the 25+ years of runtime has more good art than not.
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>>179256347
It's from the second LN, so chances are we're gonna get that scene in the first season
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>>179257080
I never liked Berserk artstyle.
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>>179257076
If the dudes could get pregnant, probably they would get dicked too

Goblins rape because that's how they reproduce, they are shit at it though since they end up killing the girls sometimes
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>>179257076
Because girls are pretty and make goblin weewees big and triggers their instincts to try to breed.
Guys are just something that needs to be brutally tortured and eaten.
But girls can give birth to even more goblins, if taken care off to survive long enough by the smarter goblins.

After all, they are marauder monsters.
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>>179240436
>Berserk
>Edgy

There's a difference between being dark and being edge famalam.

Maybe once you graduate from middle school you'll actually learn the difference, though i doubt it.
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>>179256730
Rape is just used as a device to show how evil goblins are, you dumb nigger. It's not the same thing as it being central to actual character development. People get raped every day, it's not uncommon trauma that should be reserved for the most fundamental of changes in a character. I bet you think rape is worse than murder too, SJW faggot.
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>>179257285
yeah but they're sadistic monsters, why wouldn't they rape dudes as a way of torture and humiliation? you telling me goblins only rape girls for the sole purpose of procreation, and not because they also get off on it? humans have reproductive urges too, and prison rape and rape in war time happens too, because sex feels good regardless
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>>179256932
Every MC needs the token Asuna/Hinata.
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>>179257113
Hell no, anime will only reach the farm battle.
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>>179240436
Is the rape and gore unnecessary? Would it be the same story without them? No, because Berserk is Dark Fantasy, a genre with particular conventions that define it, including the use of violence and rape. And, in Berserk, the violence and rape are motivated, and while somewhat excessive, never truly gratuitous. It is the tone of the work, and to say it should be a light-hearted carebear story is missing that this is an exploration of people in a world where absolute evil exists.

It's by no means a perfect story, but it's certainly not the shallow "edginess for edginess's sake" that the anon is trying to misconstrue it to be, through sheer ignorance.
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Goblin Slayer x Queen's Blade, when
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>>179256136
GS to the Ogre as he opened the scroll:
Blow it out your ass!
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>>179240436
"But anon, it's establishing how evil the goblins are! It did serve a purpose!" Yeah, rather than giving me a real reason to hate these goblins, the author takes the lazy way out by just playing the rape card. That's like in movies, when a guard who's been on screen for 2 minutes says "Please no, I have a family!" as his one and only line before getting shot in the head, just to establish how evil and uncaring the villain is. It's bad writing, and it's lazy as fuck. People here bitch that others don't like it just cause it's too edgy and they just need to grow a thicker skin, but that's not true. Edge can be good, Berserk handles it's edge well and is still loved to this day. Even bad edge can be fun in the bad movie way, it's why I still read Akame Ga Kiru and why I actually like Goblin Slayer (the protagonist) as a character. The character is fun, but the writing is lazy. Clearly the author doesn't care enough about actually putting out a well-written story, so why should I care enough to read his story and get immersed in it? There's a million other stories out there, and if he won't put the effort in to write a good story then I won't put in the effort to read it.
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>>179255407
there's a huge gap between silver, gold and platinum
platinum is a special rank for people with cheat powers, chosen ones
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>>179257595
>Yeah, rather than giving me a real reason to hate these goblins
What would make you hate them, anon? Finding out who they voted for?
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>>179240436
Darkness exists for a reason. It's not just an edgy quest for revenge it's driven by SOMETHING. The entire Golden Age arc redeems Berserk as a whole for example as it makes Guts' edgy revenge quest somewhat relatable. You get what it's about.

Also, Golden Age Guts was already a dark character, but one trying and somewhat succeeding to find his place in the world. A dark character is still a character. If he walks into a tavern with his mates he doesn't just lean against a wall to look cool and brooding, he has fun. With his friends. You know, friends? Maybe he's a bit more stoic than most, maybe he doesn't get as drunk as the party bard and maybe he manages to look more cool while stumbling back to his quarters, but he isn't dark and brooding every time all the time.

In fact, watching an otherwise dark character dealing with situations he isn't used to may be quite interesting. Imagine a dark character escorting a spoiled brat of a prince. Once you realize just choking the bastard isn't an option, imagine how he would react to it. Would he angst the kid into silence? Bite his tongue and bear with it? Humor the kid just to make things easier for himself? Earnestly try to get along with him? Take the entire escort off-road and take a detour through the darkest, most forsaken and goblin infested valleys in the known world in order to teach the spoiled princeling to be a real man like his father was, developing a soft spot for him as he grows and learns? The way he deals with such scenarios learns us a lot more about who he is and even how he copes with his dark past in a way.
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>>179257595
>comparing the first episode to 20+ years of writing
Why do people do this?
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>>179257636
the goblins wear maga hats! lets extermiante them!
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>>179256730
Well, GS saw his sister raped in three days, during childhood which become the source of his motivation, SM get raped to the point she acquire goblin phobia despite able to defeat Demon Lord with (You), and Priestess despite untouched acquire several PTSD that can turn her into sobbing mess, or snap and turn an useless cooking spell into Power Word:Kill. Plus it serve to push further that goblins are evil.
I'm not saying GS is better than Berserk, but not all the rape in GS just for cheap shock value. Beside, remember the troll in Berserk?
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>>179240436
Berserk aged poorly in some areas but generally speaking at the time it brought to the mainstream manga scene the idea of a grimdark fantasy setting that was well developed and executed, with it's influences creating a ripple effect that we feel in various form of media to this day (most notably souls games, to name one).
It spent entire arcs just building up characters and making them interact with each other.

The very start of it is just like goblin slayer, and Guts can be just as edgy sometimes, but it feels more justified, fleshed out and has generally more depth than GS ever has even in it's best moments.
The biggest problem of GS is that at it's best it's only as good as Berserk is at it's worst, and GS has, in theory, the advantage of being more recent and thus it could, still in theory, learn from past mistakes, but it doesn't, at all.
And the biggest reason why it doesn't is that to please the average japanese audience these days you really don't have to try that much, they're easy to please and don't demand complex world building and character interactions, if it's there it's just treated as an extra thing that's nice to have but it doesn't really register with most of em.

The modern japanese audience is, for a lack of a better term, a bunch of plebs.
It happened during the last generational exchange, most people still can't come to terms with it because it has been the opposite for so many years
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>>179257628
>western comics in /a/

stop, my brain cant handle
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Goblin lives matter.
End the persecution.
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>>179257386
That’s exactly what he said. Rape is just a a minor plot device instead of something central to the main characters. Its permanent effect is tiny.
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>>179240436
Berserk is a "serious" story, Goblin Slayer works more as some kind of parody to anime fantasy and an allegory do D&D games. In this sense they are not really comparable.

And being edgy isn't a bad thing for a story, in both cases. In fact, Berserk got much worse once Miura stoped writting edgy things.
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Already done.
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>>179257843
We really don't need more shit in here
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>>179257636
See, the problem with this is that it's a waste. Characters are a writer's tools, through which he makes the audience grow attached to the story. There are many ways to show that the world isn't a nice place with chosen heroes and greasy destinies that don't involve a scene that leaves me detached from the story. Characters are not something you should throw away just to get a basic message across, doing that (and right at the very start of the series no less) can make your audience detach itself from the other characters. "Oh, people die like flies in this setting, guess I shouldn't bother getting too attached to any of them".

It's the kind of problem a lot of series face. Akame ga Kiru, Game of Thrones, and Attack on Titan are some popular titles that demonstrate this. When bad things happen to the characters all the time, they stop being people and become characters. You don't want this as a write reviews, you want your characters to feel alive, to be people. The moment your characters cease to be people is the moment your story takes a huge hit against it.

To go back to Berserk, we can tell what kind of series this is right off the bat when Guts is found at the foot of a tree filled with hanging corpses. This sets the tone of the setting without actually killing our attachment to characters, because the corpses were dead before they even came on screen. Doing something like that would have been a much better option for Goblin Slayer than cutting three characters out of cardboard just to set them on fire immediately after showing them to people.
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>>179257835
hheh, well done
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>>179257422
Because they'd rather impale dudes with big sticks like Vlad the Impaler did, instead of raping dudes with their weewees.
Guys will always be killed by goblins, because goblins don't want to keep dudes alive long enough to enjoy their screams of pain. Girls can still be saved while they're being raped and kept alive for as long as possible.
That's the burden that men have to shoulder while trying to kill goblins.
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>>179257636

lol are you from Brazil?

Because that's a valid reason to kill someone here
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>>179257843
Japanese fan service elves are legitimately the worst elves ever conceived. There's a reason good fantasy manga (e.g. Dungeon Meshi, Berserk) don't use this kind of elf and crappy ones (Goblin Slayer, Isekai shit) do.
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>>179257595
>newfags who don't even bother to read LN or the manga complaining about retarded shit that gets explained later but they want it NOOW, MOMMY I WANT IT NOOOOOOOOW !!!!!!1!!
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>>179257636
Disregard this post. He's from Brazil, there's goblins there. But Bolsonaro will soon put an end to that.
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>>179240436
Berserk is a series with dynamic characters that actively evolve and develop in response to the world around them, feel like real people with flaws and quirks and not just cardboard cutout, and the edgy Protag not only has a reason to be edgy and behaves like a properly PTSD'd Merc, but actually grows and eventually starts to come to terms and move past his issues.

Berserk's best traits was never the monster or fights. It was always it's characters and how they feel like actual people living in an actual organic world.

And also the wierd homoerotic undertones between Guts and Griffith, and how it's actually played like a real unhealthy domineering relationship
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>>179257910
have we not see dudes getting kept alive for torture? were those human shields alive? we have seen girls getting killed immediately or tortured in alternative ways than rape, like that one girl getting used for shooting practice.
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>>179240436
>Reddit spacing
>Explaining the obvious that makes sense to literally anybody that isn't an SJW cuck
>serious discussion

kys
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>>179257843
Good.
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>>179257890
The rookie adventurers in Goblin Slayers who died in the first chapter/episode are the same like the noname Hawks who get killed fighting the knights of Tudor or other mercenaries.
Pitiful existences.
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>>179257972

Yeah, he will an end to it alright. Do you think he will kill democracy before or after that??
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>>179257783
No need to rant about it.
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Goblin Slayer would be much better if the universe didn't constantly try to affirm how right he is. IE, if they played it for comedy, not cheap edgy drama.

Make it so Goblins actually ARE a joke monster and Goblin Slayer is obsessed with them for dumb reasons, like /pol/ and jews. Goblin Slayer keeps getting involved in all these fucking other things and he just wants to kill GOBLINS and he's pissed because Megakill the Arch Lich is getting in his fucking way
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arent goblins, in any single D&D setting still too much for level 1 adventurers anyway? what the fuck is going on here.

And level 1 adventurers, at least in modern D&D are stronger physically than your average farmer who works his body all day plus his chosen martial skill. These retards are literally just teenagers who shouldnt even fight stray wolves.

even in magic the gathering the shittiest goblin is half as strong as a decently trained guardsman.
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>>179257982
Perhaps the target practice Rhea was already dead from being raped or being killed during combat.
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>>179258045
Democracy is irrelevant. It as if you're asking if goblin slayer will fuck up the cave the goblins were born in.
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>there are BRs discussing their shitty politics here on a goblin slayer thread on 4chan on /a/

Don't you fags have to prepare for civil war or something?
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>>179258096
they also burned one of those women at the stake
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>>179258156
Probably the group's cute magician girl. Spellcasters are dangerous, after all. They might do weird magick that could kill more gobbos, so it's best to just get rid of them sneaky spellcasters right from the getgo.
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>>179257934
Seriously?
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>>179257330
isn't this what MC in re:Monster did? and advised against? the constant rape and ignoring girls should, like EAT and rest a bit
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>>179258213
are they smart enough to do that
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>>179258235
>see a bitch wave her hand and burn your stickball partner from afar
>better just rape her, im sure shell not do stuff again once shes naked
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>>179257835
Is SM just a Arc character or does she show up after her story?
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>>179258119
Goblins, brazilians are goblins.
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>>179240436
as someone who's already read all the manga chapters translated so far you people are giving too much credit to this generic trash. If you take away the tits and rape Goblin Slayer would be indistinguishable from the seasonal isekai tripe we been getting for the past few years. Plot and characters wise this shit's even inferior to garbage like Fairy Tail.
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>>179257934
Goblin Slayer High Elf is literally Dragon's Crown Elf. She exists and looks like that video game character because Dragon's Crown is an awesome fantasy beat'em'up game.
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>>179257890
The tone of goblin quest is never about dark unbeatable monster, it's about how you should never underestimated "the weakest". Finding three corpses without explanation will not set the tone right.
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>>179258235
They are smart enough to understand cause and effect and more intelligent gobbos can issue direct orders, communicate and plan ahead. Their intelligence is actually more or less on human levels, the thing is that they lack consistent access to any kind of information base. Completely out in the nature they are like feral children. United under a leader that can teach, show them the ropes, they can become a dangerous and organized civilization.
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>>179258445
>Hxh fan detected
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>>179258092
one or two goblins or even four of them shouldn't be a problem for any group of adventures...
more than 10, in waves with a Hobgoblin, is a big problem
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>>179255963
If they have the money to hire receptionists then they would have money to hire such veterans. To begin with, simply have the veterans take 50% of the reward money. Then make it a rule that new adventurers would never be allowed to take on ANY jobs unless they had at least partaken in say 10ops with a veteran first.
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>>179258808
GG complains about this, but since a second or third party ends up clearing the quest, the higher ups don't give a shit about noobies dieing
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>>179258885
Also, it's not like the first party always automatically fails to clear out a goblin nest.
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GS it's a generic shit.
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why are no ugly women getting raped in this manga, only big titty lewd body girls?
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>>179258320
She's kinda a gag character, but the 8th volume should be about her, kinda, maybe. I mean, it won't be about Priestess again, r-right?
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>>179258808
>waah muh social safety nets
No one cares if a peasant dies. Anyone with prestige is already going to get real training from skilled veterans.
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>>179258959
Because the gods are D&D players and what D&D player puta ugly girls in their game?
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>>179258937
this too

probably this way they keep the number of humans in more manageable levels too
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>>179259014
>Las illustration is Priestess on a chair, blushing
Yeah, is about Priestess again.
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>>179254452
It's not common for adventurers to get raped by goblins.
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>>179259034
better: how many times did you EVER see an ugly girl in manga?
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>>179242931
I need a BLACKED hand picture of the priestess with a goblin hand.
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>>179259100
That too.
In the end, there never will be ugly girls ever being raped in manga, anime or tabletop games.
Ugly girls don't exist at all in highly idealized fiction.
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>>179255924
>DUDE MY SHITTY EDGELORD AUTIST IS SO BADASS LIKE THIS OTHER SHITTY EDGELORD AUTIST

God show us no mercy for we deserve none.
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Light Novel or Manga? Which one should I pick up?
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>>179259239
You've got time for both.
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>>179259239
obviously anime
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>>179241783
It gets worse
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>>179258808
You seem to think GG runs the whole fucking guild or some shit like that. The higher ups really haven't had any screen time yet. For all we know they could be greedy kikes who run the guild hall like it's some kind of call center with a high turnover rate.
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>>179258959
Because their standard is different, character that often described as beautiful are.
>Elf (elf)
>SM (blonde)
>FK (blonde)
>NF (blonde)
>Priestess (blonde)
So there's a pattern here.
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>>179259239
read manga first, then LN if you like it
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>>179259513
>who run the guild hall like it's some kind of call center with a high turnover rate
This isn't the first time you have used this example, right?
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>>179257725
Did you only watch the first episode of the anime?
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>>179259763
did 2nd ep. aired?
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>>179249205
I fucking hate that big titted witch, why does she talks like that?
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>>179259803
So you haven't read the manga adaptation or the source material?
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>>179259803
Are you seriously saying you're judging it by the anime which has basically covered two chapter when the LN and manga are way ahead of it?
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>>179252932
>EVERY girl is best girl in GS.
Except long ears you mean.
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>>179259972
>>EVERY girl is best girl in GS expect anons
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>>179250198
As far as i know, it was the 'Wretch' who gave the Doom Slayer his armor. He was a demon traitor.
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>>179250183
>-It sets up a scenario where everyone is a retard so that MC using common sense looks like a genius.
This, even high level adventurers feel retarded somehow.
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this show sucks, goblins are precious and innocent
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if only it was reverse , female goblins raping men
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>>179260392
>Implying the goblins next to Lumby aren't complete niggers
Runescape Anime never ever
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>>179254199
>Not knowing what he have on his pocket
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>>179260870
I wonder ((who)) could be behind this post...
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>>179261171
Cave goblins =/= lumbridge goblins.
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>>179261171
HAM did nothing wrong
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>>179256103
in a way goblin paladin is a living example of why he only takes shit gear to fight goblins.
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>>179259861
read the manga, LN still not
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>>179253762
that was such a good game
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Give GS without helmet.
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>>179262527
He's a handsome young man, although scarred.





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