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Overlord - what went wrong? Simultaneously the most praised and most criticised work (for me atleast)
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>>267594492
>Simultaneously the most praised and most criticised work (for me atleast)
What an idiot.
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>>267594492
Provide context to what you mean by "for me". The anime screwed the pooch by having a legendary shit tier cg season 3. I'm not an LN friend but the readers here seemed to lose interest around the time the author threw a fit about piracy or some shit? I don't know because I don't give a shit.
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TOTAL ZESSHI LOVE
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>>267594694
This but Kelart, Calca and Remedios
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>>267594694
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>>267594492
nothing
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>>267594492
guy made a great world but not an endgame for it
also the author seemingly losing interest is not great
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>>267594492
Does Gagaran talk about her boobs? What about other characters? Does anybody grope her?
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>>267595556
Only trader guy from s4 wants to grope Gagaran, but he's one scene character.
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LIGHT NOVELS good
ANIME bad
simple as
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>>267595647
does he succeed?
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>>267594694
>didn't pledge to His Highness Ainz-sama
a total shame since she's so cute
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>>267594492
If Maruyama no longer care about his own book then you shouldn't care about it either.
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>>267594492
Much like my hero academia, their fanbase ruined everything
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>>267595828
>he's one scene character
He never appears again after organizing the colloseum fight for Ainz.
Forget Gagaran, embrace Solution.
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>>267595882
Stop gaslighting people to believe that mha fanbase is on par with any other. Its not. You mha fags are the worst, noone comes close to how awful you are.
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>>267594492
Is this jerk off fest still going?
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>>267595946
Solution a shit
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>>267595975
I'm not the one who spamned:
>Cast stop time
>Bypasses every resistances and immunities
In every single thread these last years
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>>267594492
Tons of setup but no follow through. Author teased more of the world being explored, Ainz's actual allies being found to which there would have been interesting interaction. Clementine could have returned or something. I think if the author stopped smelling his own farts and acting autistic against fans and just gave fanservice then it would have been cool. With only I think 2 volumes left, I highly doubt it will end in a satisfying way and it's probably going to be an open end with Ainz looking out towards the horizon after having conquered the world or some shit.
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Reminder to read Shards of the Eight instead of Overlord. Everything wrong with Overlord has been fixed.
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>>267595993
Your mom a shit
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>>267594694
I find it funny that everybody thought she would immediately convert to wanting Ainz’s pelvic bone the moment she finds out how strong he is - only for her to actually love humanity and the Theocracy and be far more willing to die for it than some high level D.
She’s probably still going to get mind raped into supporting Nazarick because Overlord is terrible but was still pretty funny.
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>>267596239
The only bad thing about Shards is that level 100s are way too weak. The author justifies that with human 100s not having the inherent “ignore all attacks below x powerlevel” ability heteromorphs have - but there’s still not the slightest chance Climb of all people is giving a level 100 a nosebleed. It’s just silly
Still better than Overlord.
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>>267594492
Author pussied out of his own series
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>>267597144
Probably the only thing that is flawed in SOT8's writing, yes, however I feel it is a breath of fresh air in contrast to Overlord's 'lol, you can't even scratch me', sapping all the tension out of scenes.
The author says this:
>I'd say like the proverbial Rasputin, human or human-form Players are tough. This doesn't mean they can't be hurt or hacked to pieces, it's just that they're extremely resilient and don't give up the ghost easily.

Climb broke 'Sir Samuel's' nose, and he reacted the way he did because, well, having your nose broken is a painful experience, even if it's nowhere near fatal.

I'd assume a stab right to the heart would kill a human, one way or another. To my mind, it makes sense that creatures like the undead or certain species of heteromorph are more like to have 'HP' - Undead are magically animated, and some heteromorphs have no clear areas to damage (Slimes, for example).
He clearly wants to step away from the invulnerability aspect of Overlord, which I applaud. Kelart a best btw.
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>>267597226
I agree that doing away with the arbitrary “nuh uh you can’t touch me” Maruyama does with 100s is a good thing but I think Shards went too far in the other direction. Like - it should more be like a level 30 with their ultimate attack could cause a wound that breaks through a 100s skin, nothing less.
So there’s still threat even amongst low levels if a 100 gets careless, but you still have the country-wiping power levels that Overlord gives them, with a genuinely experienced and well prepared 100 being pretty much invincible outside of extreme circumstances. Would allow some threat to still be present, with Samuel being far from a well prepared and experienced 100.
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>>267596081
Yeah pretty much this. All that groundwork and a fun premise and it basically amounted to a wankfest. I know its a raw power fantasy but he could have at least pretended that any foe was even slightly threatening. But apparently not even to the minions. I appreciate stuff like the lizard faggots getting wrecked but someone has to be able to do something you know? The closest we got was the end of S1 and that was our boney boy going out of his way to 1v1 his vampire dickrider and it went just as keikaku anyway. Haven't read ahead of where the anime got to but everything I hear gives me no hope.
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Oh, certainly it should be that way. The narrator can be a tad unreliable at times, so perhaps it was embellishment to Climb's skill. What is strange, however, is the fact that Samuel is 1v1ing a Level 100 and recovering miraculously well in comparison to his bout with Climb. I can only guess that it has something to do with his build, or perhaps he has learnt prebuffing between then and now.
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>>267597399
Watching Overlord for Nazarick is kinda shit honestly, the fun is on the side characters and how they behave against the overwhelming power that is plotting against them, i like Renner and Brain, they were cool
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>>267597399
It’s also that not only is Ainz and co vastly stronger than the rest of the world - it’s that they also have an absurd amount of plot armour on top of that. Shalltear happens to wound the World Item user just in time for her to be half but not fully mind controlled, Ainz happens to interrupt a nearby between countries to deploy an anti-Nazarick alliance by pure chance, PDL just happens to be stupid enough to leak important information to Nazarick while also failing to see through their deception, all the Dragon Lords just happen to be too divisive to bother to create an alliance against Nazarick, Phillip does what he does just before an alliance with Argland can be created, Mare just happens to stumble upon Zesshi at the literal perfect one in a million time she chooses to kill the Elf King, etc etc.
Nazarick also has four times as many World Items are the nearest guild (enough to equip Ainz and all floor guardians and then some) with the closest having three to Nazarick’s 14 or so. This is despite Nazarick in its prime only having 41 players to other guilds 100s, and it’s top whaler being Ainz (an average salaryman), while there should be guilds with several times the players who spend several times as much money on pay to win and yet none of them come close. This is pretty clearly only the case to stop any chances of there being an actual threat - if Naz didn’t have enough World Items for all guardians then the Dragon Lords and New World WI are a general existential threat. But nope, we can’t even have that
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>>267597576
What Overlord needs is Seraphim (the #1 guild in YGGDRASIL full of Angels) to come in and GTFO Nazarick, but I fear it's too late with only what, two volumes left? It would be terribly underdeveloped.
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>>267597618
Can’t have that! That would be an actual threat to Nazarick! Imagine how the poor self-inserters would feel…
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>>267595946
Is she bustier than Gagaran?
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>>267597576
Cool. Never was a shounen.
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>>267597576
This is why I tire of Nazarick wank, and why Shards will always be my preferred. Holy Kingdom >>>> shit >>>>> N*zarick
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>>267594492
Pretty much this >>267596081

Frankly I don't feel like what Overlord needed was an actual physical threat, but more intrigue in general. Ainz was aiming to make a utopia after all, and he needs more than strength to pull that off, and thus there are more avenues for conflict than just some strong dude showing up and actually putting up a fight.
The most frustrating part is that there were plenty of loose threads that could have lead to interesting scenarios but they are getting ditched one after the other.

For instance, you know how Brain saw and got mindbroken by Shalltear, but Shalltear does not remember this thanks to her getting mindcontroled? And how he spotted her when Jaldabaoth was in the capital? I genuinely thought all the way up to volume 14 that this was setup so that at one point Brain sees Shalltear being Ainz's vassal, and thus connects the dots about Jaldabaoth being connected to Ainz, since she was seemingly helping him.

This could have lead to him confiding in Blue Rose, who confide in Momon, who then leads them into a trap where he reveals Momon was Ainz the whole time, poor Evileye meets a terrible fate, and voila, you have an easy kino volume plot right there.
But no, Brain got killed like a moron in the capital and Blue Rose will likely never be seen again.
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>>267599415
Its literally just fucking nah bro bone man is too stronk for 15 volumes
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>>267594492
The last 2 volumes was pretty shit. I get the feeling like the author was held at gunpoint got forced to write. But to be fair, apparently the author is terrible to work with and he's overall a shit person so I can't say that I sympathize with him.
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>>267594492
Author threw a fit about piracy and later gave up. Guess he preferred being a salaryman.
Also lmao at the failed gacha
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>>267599560
> But to be fair, apparently the author is terrible to work with and he's overall a shit person so I can't say that I sympathize with him.
Really? Where did you get this from?
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>>267594492
Nothing, really. Just don't watch the anime.
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>>267597576
>Shalltear happens to wound the World Item user just in time for her to be half but not fully mind controlled, Ainz happens to interrupt a nearby between countries to deploy an anti-Nazarick alliance by pure chance, PDL just happens to be stupid enough to leak important information to Nazarick while also failing to see through their deception, all the Dragon Lords just happen to be too divisive to bother to create an alliance against Nazarick, Phillip does what he does just before an alliance with Argland can be created, Mare just happens to stumble upon Zesshi at the literal perfect one in a million time she chooses to kill the Elf King
What the fuck do you mean "happen to" you retard? Everything here is a result of cause and effect, except Zesshi getting dicked by Mare, but that's not plot armor, is it?
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>>267601221
> Everything here is a result of cause and effect
And every single effect magically turned out to be the one which posed the least issue to Nazarick despite the many alternate (more interesting) scenarios that are equally likely to occur.
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>>267596239
That's just regular isekai.
The fun part of Overlord is to have an endgame demon lord as protagonist.
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>>267601364
Yes, but I like the good guys in Overlord...
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>>267596239
What is Shards of the Eight?
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>>267601322
And pray tell what are these super interesting scenarios that could've happened while keeping everything leading up to the events the same?
I have my fair share of gripes with the happenings here and there, but your examples are just shit to serve a benign criticism.
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>>267601454
Fanfic
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>>267597411
If I'm reading this correctly, there are multiple intervening factors:
>The Vanisher is a crafter build, so he's not combat-specc'd
>He's wearing a Reinforcement armor to make up for his subpar combat skills
>Samuel is built to 1v1 bosses, and so his particular niche is useful here
He literally says he's getting stronger as the fight goes on.
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>>267601364
He’s not really much of a protagonist. He kinda just gets pulled around wherever his subordinates want him to go. Doesn’t have much agency
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>>267597670
Isn't that basically the one Thai guy's fic? Last Guild War or whatever? Apparently he commissioned hundreds of dollars worth of art.
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>>267601573
Never heard of it, sounds really interesting. I’ll look into that
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>>267597576
I just wonder how it's going to have a satisfying conclusion
Like what could possibly be a dramatic climax to a story based solely around curb-stomping? Is the God of Death going to return for a final skeleton-on-skeleton battle?
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>>267594492
>Overlord - what went wrong? Simultaneously the most praised and most criticised work (for me atleast)
Should've been porn where MC's guild would rape the good guys who are invading his territory
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>>267594694
My cute half-breed wife.

>>267597576
>PDL just happens to be stupid enough to leak important information to Nazarick while also failing to see through their deception
Tsa did pretty badly but PA actually was angery with him because he felt that the armor guy wasn't telling him anything important. Better examples would be how Satoru in the Bonus Volume happened to be ECDL's "perfect" counter or how Mare just happened to wear his "weaker" set of armor that nullified Zesshi's ability to make critical strikes (irl grievous wounds) against him.
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>>267601454
https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/shards-of-the-eight-overlord-au-ocs.878331/
>>267601543
Yep, that is as much as I surmised. I wonder when we will ever catch up to where the narrator is talking from, I believe he says something about a player who surpasses all of them in strength. I wonder if that is the same player who got brainwashed by the Theocracy. I also wonder if Zesshi will make an appearance soon. I hope Samuel gets a pass from PDL, he's a great guy.
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>>267597226
>I'd assume a stab right to the heart would kill a human, one way or another
I think level 100 human would be just too tough for a low-level dude to actually pierce him.
Volume 14 showed how a naked level 30 Cleric just wouldn't get knocked out while being continuously pummeled, stabbed and poisoned. I assume if she was susceptible to "chokes u out" the BR would have went for it instead of hurting her until she was too weak to resists level 33+ Sorceresss's mind control.
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>>267594492
It just got too repetitive. You can only pull "Sasuga Ainzsama" as Ainz effortlessly wins.
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>>267599642
I don't care enough to look but it's in the archives. Something about the author going through multiple editors because said editors can't deal with shit anymore. Also, author hates this one bitch at his workplace so he wrote that bitch as a fodder in overlord and among other things.
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>>267603080
I swear I saw something that Remedios was based on a boss he had, but Remedios is actually my favourite character...
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>>267602111
You're right. I go Sasuga Ainz-sama every time
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>>267597106
How were the reactions to it?
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>Zesshis' character is deeper than initially suggested
>this means nothing because sasuga ainz-sama mindbroken tortured neuronist le runecraft
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>>267604866
Nah, based level 88 Zesshi is too powerful for a sub level 30 shitter like Neuronist.
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>>267607606
Sigh...I, too, wish nothing but happiness for our honourary human half-erofu Zesshi...but alas...she is stuck in miseryporn.
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>>267603080
Huh, really?

>>267603174
Didn't she go through some of the worst shit via Demiurge?
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>>267607980
Yeah, she saw her favourite human being, queen, the one she dedicated her entire life to, brutally smashed to death infront of her, then dragged along hoping her beloved sister would resurrect her, only to find out she was dead before she could even do anything about it and has a psychotic breakdown, and her squire now controls a religion opposed to the holy queen and country they protect
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>>267604677
To me it made perfect sense because it explained why in all 200 years Zesshi never ran off to try to fight and get impregnated by a True Dragon Lord when Brightness DL proved it possible for at least him to reproduce with other races. The Elf King on the other hand clearly had his personality retconned between the Volume 10 Intermission and his proper introduction in Volume 15 though the new Elf King was pretty fun.

>>267607645
Maruyama promised THREE losses for Nazarick before the series' end. We still have had only one in all 15 volumes. If the last Volume ends without the other 2 dropping it's confirmed you were reading a bad fanfic all along.
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>>267594492
Maruyama created complicated world with dozens of characters and multiple plot lines, but was too retarded to handle it so he decided to axe it all in "witch of whatever" arc. That didn't go well.
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How about the Japanese fandom? how are they on Overlord?
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>>267608781
What fandom? With the series coming to a close and the rather mediocre recent volumes, we only really have the movie to look forward to.
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>>267608848
Damn. that bad over there?
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>>267594492
The mc wins too much. No stakes.

It took a party of some of this worlds strongest heros just to defeat 1 Battle Maid
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>>267594492
The lich is powerful enough to curbstomp the world with low effort. He wastes all of our time playing with peasants.
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>>267608995
It worked with re;monster though.
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>>267609227
Ainz didn't ring ding dong like king kong.
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>>267594492
When is the movie coming out?
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>>267594694
I was shocked when it turned out Zesshi wasn't her name but a title.
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>>267608995
No lies about the stakes part but to be fair, the New World has tons of beings who could beat 1 Battle Maid in a 1v1 and lots of those who could take on all six Maids and destroy them all.
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>>267596081
This anon gets it
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>>267609584
Antilene is a bit much, so I call her Leni.
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>>267610332
The face of someone who will DEFEAT Nazarick. (the fools brought her into their base)
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>>267601783
Tbf Ainz commits to the fight exactly because he's a perfect counter. Any other monster and he'd bail out like the other Dragon Lord also mentioned in that volume (Maruyama why you skip a likely cool fight??)
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Antilene hugs
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>>267610741
At least 200 years ago BDL was weaker than Cure Elim and Maru said that he isn't a warrior at heart, the main reason Satoru bailed was because he encountered him with Keno nearby. Though we was strong enough for him not to pursue a rematch since unlike with ECDL he didn't have a good enough reason to try fighting a being of his own caliber to the death. When Satoru dropped his disguise and committed to the real duel against the evil snek he still didn't know many of his abilities but he was his actual enemy.
The coolest thing is that the snek got even stronger in the continuity where he wasn't killed off and that Ainz by himself would have a much harder 1v1 fight against even the one from 200 years ago since he has reservations against bringing the guild weapon into battle when the guild base is around.
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>>267594492
I would have preferred if Ainz/Satoru were just a normal human and had to rely on his goons for the heavy lifting. Would have actually given Nazarick a weak point rather than just having it be a power fantasy. Literally zero tension at any point besides the AInz vs. Shalltear battle
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Movie when
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>>267596239
>Reminder to read Shards of the Eight instead of Overlord. Everything wrong with Overlord has been fixed.
Fanfiction trash
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Hows the Overlord Reddit fandom these days?
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>>267608144
>The Elf King on the other hand clearly had his personality retconned between the Volume 10 Intermission and his proper introduction in Volume 15 though the new Elf King was pretty fun.
Really? Why do you think this?
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>>267603080
Wouldn’t be shocked. Overlord’s underlying philosophy is cynical nihilism with nothing good in store for anyone morally upright - either on Earth or in the New World. Someone with a worldview like that probably isn’t the easiest person to deal with
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>>267617323
Cancerous as always. Check any post and see half the users are self-inserting ESLs and young teenagers with broken grammar and spelling. Just as toxic as 4chan, have a superiority complex over other works and are obsessed with power levels
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>>267601428
Those aren't even characters in Overlord. You just like a guy's OCs rather than any Overlord's good characters.
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She and the Elf King are the only good things that came from that trashfire that was volume 15 and 16.
>>267604866
Volume 4 portrayed her as fightsexual in the clear need of tardwrangling.
Volumes 15-16 made it clear that she is the one in charge of tardwrangling everyone.
>>267617447
Wouldn't call it a retcon, his introduction portrayed him as a social darwinist who allowed elven genocide for the small chance of awakening one of his godkin children.
Volumes 15-16 revealed that he is an entertainingly clueless type who doesn't understand why you wouldn't be happy at the news that he is going to impregnate your wife.
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>>267617447
Vol.10
>doesn't care about Elves, just wants strong kids and they aren't delivering, ponders switching to humans
>thinks about the Theocracy ace he tricked and raped and wonders if he should go visit them and find his child
>wants to conquer the world for himself
>when he thinks about how merciful he is for not killing his former mistress (because it would be a pain to wait until the room is cleaned) you just feel his smugness
>doesn't feel delusional, more like uncaring and drunk with power, Japs compared him to a Hokuto no Ken villain and I agree

Vol.15
>now it's all Elves-Elves-Elves out of the guy, doesn't really think about the humans even as they are knocking on the doors of his palace
>couldn't or wouldn't trick anybody with his retard mindset
>wants to prove that Elves are the best
>when he thinks about how generous and kind he is you just feel the delusion
>clearly lives in his own world detached from the one the rest of characters live in, not unlike Philip
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>>267618374
It's been awhile since i last read but when you put it this way it does look like a retcon.
I do agree that the new elf king is a more entertaining character, wish he was in a better story.
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>>267617654
Are they pissed off about the current state of events?
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>>267619134
Yep
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>>267603080
Which is ironic, since Maruyana's editors are excellent. They're responsible for almost every good narrative decision made in this story.
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>>267619485
Any highlights?
>>267619800
What did they un-fuck?
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>>267619858
The webnovel written purely by the author was embarrassing (it ends with Ainz going to magic school). The editors are responsible for the existence of Albedo, the Sorcerous Kingdom, and Ainz vs Shalltear.
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>>267619994
oh that sounds awesome. what else?
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>>267594492
i was supposed to write out proper arguments, but in honor of the author i lost all interest halfway through
so ill just say that powerfantasies get old extremely quickly if you dont have anything more going for it
this doesnt
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>>267617447
>>267618374
He must have hit his head around volume 11-13
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>>267619994
It was pure cinema.
Maruyama on the Webnovel powerlevels:
>all of the New World could do serious damage to Nazarick but ultimately the tomb denizens would emerge victorious
The actual Webnovel:
>Ainz's world conquest is completely stopped before it even really began and the Webnovel is abandoned because Ainz encounters a mysterious (not really) youth with an eyepatch of power hiding his MAGAN (Evil Eye) that can pierce through any illusion, an enemy he could never hope to overcome

>>267620066
Ainz meets Clementine while entertaining some Baharuth nobles who were part of a minor death cult organized by Zuranon/Zurrernon for funds. At first he thinks that Clem is the noble's bodyguard but when he accidentally destroys his seat with his retard strength and the frightened frog girl tells him that he can use her as one Ainz realizes that she is just a maid after all. Clem later kills the ringleader noble and discusses with her mummy-looking partner (who might as well be one, since he is from Zuranon) her plans to bail and hide in the Holy Kingdom.
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>>267620373
I made a mistake, since he was from Vol.11 Intermission, Vol.10 was about the Theocracy leadership discussing him and Ainz's gamer rage in Vol.9. So, he would have to hit his head a bit later.
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>>267619858
>What did they un-fuck?
Hoo boy, where do i start?

In the original web novel
>Albedo doesn't exist
>Ainz does absolutely fucking nothing and sits in Nazarick all day
>Narberal is masquerading as a Momon alone without Ainz
>No fight against Clementine and that red necromancer dude, nothing happens, swords of darkness survive.
>Shalltear doesn't get mindcontroled, she simply doesn't run into the black scripture and thus nothing happens. Turns Brain into a vampire.
>Lizard arc is unchanged, editors didn't un-fuck it.
>Men of the kingdom arc ends with the assault on the brothel. Massive assault on the 8 fingers themselves, demonic invasion and the complete takeover of the kingdom's underworld doesn't happen.
>Tomb invasion by workers wasn't a part of Nazarick plan. It was all initiated by Jercniv who wanted to poke a beehive.
>Ainz meets Re-Estize noble diplomats first before meeting the emperor. He makes a clown out of himself by letting them walk all over him because he is utterly ignorant of etiquette.
>This continues until Ainz shows them that his tomb is x999999 more luxurious than their king's palace and they try pulling "this land belong to nobles" card. This finally makes Ainz angry because they imply that his friends didn't build Nazarick or smth and he summons cerberus on them.
>Ainz goes along with the proposal to become Jercniv's vassal, no Sorcerous Kingdom
>After the Katze plains massacre the rest of the WN happens mostly in Baharuth where everything culminates in the magical academy arc where we mostly follow the character Jet POV.
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>>267621068
Wooow that sounds...it doesnt even sound bad, just boring.
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>>267621068
HAIRY
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>>267621068
you forgot
>Ainz doesn't destroy the entire Sunlight Scripture only the village-pillaging knights (I dunno, but I guess those were Imperial knights in the WN)

>Tomb invasion by workers wasn't a part of Nazarick plan. It was all initiated by Jercniv who wanted to poke a beehive
That makes the WN Jircniv a bit smarter than his LN counterpart, actually. Since in the LN we are told that a SMART genius emperor went with his advisor's plan of poking a mage who not only can summon what looks like a Death Knight but who also single-handedly saved the Warrior Captain and his warrior band from a powerful secret unit of the strongest human nation. To put it simply we are told that smart ruler = absolute retard.
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>you are summoned to the New World two years before Nazarick
>you are a level 100 and have two world items - one of which is part of the 20
What do you do? What do the world items do? What’s your build?
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>>267622177
My build does not really matter as long as I can use Wish.
My first world item generates an entire high-end guild base with 3000 NPC levels. Given this is a WI generated guild base It’ll also be able to generate higher level pops - up to level 50 instead of 30. My second world item (one of the 20) can turn 5 NPCs into level 105s.
Now I have 25 level 100s and 5 level 105s. With flavour text I’ll write each NPC to be a hyper genius more intelligent than Renner and Demiurge put together with perfect memories that are perfect at every single field of skill imaginable - combat, admin, art, negotiation, etc.
I’ll make sure to get a good spread of NPCs that can fill any role needed - blacksmiths, information gatherers, assassins, necromancers, etc.
I’d put down the base in Abelion hills to keep it out of the eyes of anybody important. From there spend two years generating an army, subverting NW power structures into alliances, gathering high-level items, putting down weapons of psychological warfare like statues of members of Ainz’s guild, andfarming gold until Nazarick shows up, in which case it’s an all-out war. I’d definitely put a ton of effort into allying with Dragon Lords too because they can have abilities that can oneshot even level 100s (that don’t have World Items). I’d also use Wish to give myself and my NPCs overpowered talents to give them an edge.
I don’t know that I can win - but I do know that with half the New World + 25 hyper genius 100s and 5 hyper genius 105s I can make Nazarick bleed
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>>267621102
Being boring is kinda worse than being bad methinks.
>>267621133
Yes, and?
>>267621488
I also forgot about Demiurge vs Evileye fight.
>Still happens but Demi doesn't kill Gagaran and ninja twin because Evileye runs into him alone, Evileye realises that he is strong and escapes, Demiurge doesn't pursue because she resisted mindcontrol earlier and he has a misunderstanding about her class but later realises that he could have easily clapped her at any time.
Web novel is almost allergic to any moment that could be considered climatic.

>That makes the WN Jircniv a bit smarter than his LN counterpart, actually....
Maru is clearly always been struggling with writing smart characters(Renner, Demiurge) compared to how he writes dumb characters(Philip, Remedios, Elf King Decem)
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>>267619858
>Any highlights?
Not really. Just less verbose versions of what everybody here says.
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>>267622591
Maruyama is stupid. Writers cannot write people smarter than themselves, as it makes them treat intelligence like magic.
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The core problem is that it started strong then fell into a story about a meek Japanese salary man that's terrified of everything and insane when it comes to the memory of his friends.

Lacks any stated direction for the plot other than I don't know things about the world, I need to learn but I'd be at risk learning things.
Unironically the best parts is Suzuki Satoru having no fucking clue what his underlings are planning or why and trying to play it cool.
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>>267623412
aitn that true for a lot of light novel artists? american writers are the same but it feels more incestous over there with their rapid output of media.

>>267623643
Exactly
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>>267594576
You are correct in my experience at least. I read a lot of the volumes and then once I reached the latest came here to find out that the bitchass author was crying like a bitch because of piracy and that he would not upload more (or for some time), then it essentially died out. This thing used to have relatively regular threads
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>>267599634
>Guess he preferred being a salaryman
Its outright bizarre how hostile he is towards his own field of profession, calling them losers without real jobs. He seems like the guy who really really wanted to be a lawyer but never passed the bar.
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>>267623777
Kek, anon, the author made one comment when answering someone telling him about it but you who didn't know it and built a whole fucking headcanon of how things went down (or just repeated what another anon made up).
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>>267610047
Too bad the story never went there at all
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>>267594492
Anyone else want to have a 4 some with Kelart, Calca and Dumbedios? Overlord is full of such hot babes.
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>>267624153
>>267623777
So which is true?



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