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Will we ever have a masterpiece like MT ever again? Everything is so peak. The plot, the characters, the world. Fuck... I want to go back. This show is just so damn good.
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>>273255804
Haremkino
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>>273255804
There's always the totally-not-a-sequel sequel to look forward to.
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>>273255804
It's done nothing will top it
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>>273255804
No not really, but you can read other inferior series while coping with post MT depression.
It's what I did.
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>>273255804
No not really, but you can read other inferior series while coping with post MT depression.
It's what I did.
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>>273255804
Yet another MT bait thread.
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first part was good. wtf happened to the god and sword god plotline
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>>273258684
>wtf happened to the god and sword god plotline
Everything that's happening in S2 is due to the God plot line.
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Dammit I wanted the sword god plotline shonen battles
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>>273258793
The Sword god is hardly mentioned and is a minor jobber character in the series that gets embarrassed by his pupil has his title stolen and then gets cut in half by Eris.
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First anime id rather see a bald spear dude than titties
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>>273258849
He's not reappearing until the last season.
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>>273258847
Alright ill speedread the manga. Harem s2 is not peak shonenbros.
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>>273258894
>the manga
The manga isn't even past the Anime.
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The demon king queen were interesting too. Wtf we got catgirls and tomboy slyphie instead
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>>273255804
Not really. It's difficult to find inspiration to make something so big and so cohesive at the same time.
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>>273258924
She's gonna appear next season and then we get to meet the biggest retard sword autist in the series.
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>>273258911
nooooooo
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Oh its a light novel.
Dam. Do they expand on his neet previos life?
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>>273259050
>>273259004
>>273258924
Shonigger Kino is coming next season don't worry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsA0_8bhd7w
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>>273258793
You'll get all of that and much much more.
S3 will probably end up as AOTY tbqh.
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>>273259183
>The best SoL Volume not including Redundancy
>Trip to Chaos Breaker and meeting with Perugius
>Nanahoshi gets magic cancer
>Meeting and Subsequent battle with Atofe ft Cliff, Elinalise and Zanoba
>The Diary flashfoward depression kino
>Magic Power Amour
>TP4 Dragon God vs Quagmire, Dragon God vs Mad Sword King Eris
Guaranteed AOTY
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It's not a masterpiece and the fanbase needs to get over itself
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>>273256094
Please Rifujin, I do not ask much just a volume per year.
I'm sure in your ample free time you can spare a bit to start writing that goddamn "sequel"
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>>273259286
>There seems to be some twitter rumors that tease the release in 2027, giving it more time of production than season 2.
Yeah, things look really good
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>>273255804
Come on, it's great but it's far from being called a master piece.
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>>273255804
This is a LN/WNchad thread, secondaryniggers get out!
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>>273259286
You forgot the Asura arc too if it’s 2 cours.
But somehow I have this hunch they’ll end it with vol 15 and save Asura arc for the next season.
Still would be cool if we get Reida vs Orsted in S3 which would be just cherry on top of an already amazing season.
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>>273260117
I really hope they do not adapt volume 18 this season and focus on volume 13-17.
It's quite clear from season 2 (and 1) that they need to sacrifice at least half a volume every cour, the problem is that there is nothing from volume 13-15 that can be cut.
The only solution I can see is to not split the season and not adapt volume 18, thus they don't need to cut anything major from the first half and pace it better.
Also allowing it to end it on a good point, rather than one of the worst volumes on the story.
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>>273260347
I personally hope they don’t adapt Asura arc at all if that’s an option and just focus completely on volumes 14 and 15.
We saw what happened in second season no need to do that again.
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>>273260480
24 episodes only on 3 volumes?
I seriously doubt that, and 12 for those 3 are too few.
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>>273255804
Only one thing can beat it and that's the sequel
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>>273260117
Orsted has only had one fight in the entire Series and that was against Rudy and Eris, every other Orsted encounter is a full blown rape.
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>>273260574
Hey, that's my post!
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>>273255804
You wouldn't care about it at all if it weren't for all the girls fawning over your self inserts dick.
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>>273259050
>Do they expand on his neet previos life?
Of course. You learn that he was actually quite sociable and athletic before he became a computer-obsessed otaku who tanked his grades and ended up in a rather rowdy highschool, for example.
There's also the question about what Rudeus in his prior life fapped to.
In the web novel version, it was hidden recordings of his own niece (the daughter of his older brother) this will matter a lot when he finds himself in the same situation.
In the light novel, it's "uncensored loli porn", which according to some anons is code for actual real life child pornography.
In the novel version, you learn why Rudeus can't jump a dozen meters in the air and run at the speed of sound like his dad or Eris or Ruijerd, which the anime somehow deliberately glossed over.
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>>273261127
Prove it.
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>>273261127
And this matters why...?

That's right, today I blew a load while fantasizing about Ariel raping me. You think the fact that you probably didn't do that makes you better than me? Is that it tough guy?
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>>273261127
I like it because the MC is based. I would like it just as much if he didn't have girls fawning over him.
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The Asura arc is way too short to be worth an entire season by itself.
Also, Ariel's networking attempts to win allies for her battle for the throne will be shown prior to that, which is how Rudeus gets to meet Sara again.
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>all these losers posting how shitty their loser selves are and how this song saved them
HOLY MOTHER OF KEKAROO

https://youtu.be/fE9trKOuT3Q?si=ypxz3yi0qNX7w3f4
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Ariel should have been part of Rudeus' harem, at first only because of politics, but eventually genuinely falling in love with him.

You cannot convince me otherwise.
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>>273261461
But Rudeus absolutely doesn't want to get involved in Asuran political struggles even back then when his uncle Phillip promised him a harem of beastgirl meidos. He'd have to be ordered by the guy who once killed him to do that, and the dragon dork doesn't need Rudeus to be the sperm giver to Ariel's womb.
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>>273261461
>Ariel should have been part of Rudeus' harem
And Sara. And Nanahoshi. And Ghislaine. And Pursena. And Linia. And Lilya. And Aisha. And Norn. And Zenith. And Kishiraka.

I totally like this series for the plot and world building by the way.
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>>273260574
>peak of fantasy
Massive stretch even for Weeaboo standards.
>peak of fiction
Completely delusional.
MT stands at the peak of Isekai and is a very good fantasy at best.
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>>273260917
It's a good post
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>>273255804
Why does this cover look so much like AI shit? Or does AI look like it because that's how isekai slop usually looks like and it's the most common style AI fags feed them?
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>>273261583
>But Rudeus absolutely doesn't want to get involved in Asuran political struggles even back then when his uncle Phillip promised him a harem of beastgirl meidos.

Ariel should have been the one to pursue him, so this is fine. Should have given him the rape treatment too.
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>>273261820
I know you said this in a mocking way, but the amount of fuckery that would have to be done for Norn to be part of the harem would have been so mindbreaking that I kind of want to see it.

And I want Aisha to still not get Rudy dick in this hypothetical Nornreality.
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>>273261832
At the end of the day it's all opinion.
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>>273262107
Show me 2 Isekai with MT's Light Novel artsyle, faggot. Shirotaka is the god of LN illustration.
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>>273263148
Sometimes they look great, sometimes they look uncanny as fuck.
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>>273261461
Nah too busy. All harem members should live in Rudy's house.
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>Sword God:
Lame ass style with basically only two moves. The first move is a generic fast slash, and the second is a generic fast slash meant to stop people from doing the first generic fast slash. The isekai equivalent of fighting players who spam one move over and over again.

>North God:
Lame ass try hard style that "is willing to do anything to win". Clearly wants to be the coolest style because people likes rogues. The sword style equivalent of a industry plant.

>Water God:
Graceful, elegant, beautiful and varied. Best style for best girl. Isolte should have replaced Eris in the harem.
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>>273263694
Isolde going toe to toe with the Fighting God was pretty hype
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>>273263694
>Isolte should have replaced Eris in the harem.
No they should have just both been in the harem. Every single attractive girl in the world should have been in Rudy's harem (unless they're disgusting used goods like Elinalise)
I like the series for it's deep plot by the way.
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>>273255804

Lol zoomers are fucked
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>>273263772
No, I don't want filthy sword godders around Rudy.
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>>273255804
How would you feel about genderswapped Mushoku Tensei?
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>>273263951
I will accept it if Rudy was still a fat (male) fuck in his old life.
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Please listen to Bananahoshis melancholic song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9u7oQ7aaV0

She misses her friends and family!
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>>273255804
>This show
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Rudeua and her husbands Sylvio, Rocky and Eric.
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>>273264544
Rocky and his little migger dick can't pleasure Rudeua...
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>>273263951
>one woman and three men
cringe, I would rather just Rudeus be genderswapped and (s)he just impregnates the harem with the power of magic.
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>>273263951
Is Orsted Genderswapped as well or is he still male?
Because he would automatically be best Husbando
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>>273264646
Just like Roxy has canonically bigger boobs than Sylphiette according to the author himself (somebody will surely post the F.A.Q where this is mentioned), Rocky will have a slightly bigger dick than Sylvio, who can pass for a girl.
Eric of course has the biggest dick.
However, with a femme-Rudeus (Rudea), Eric's action would look iffy after he left her to go train at the sword sanctum.
And the cuck accusation would be nonstop once Eric proposes to Rudea to fuck Linius.
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>>273264716
I know this is sexist of me, but it would make the Eris ntr plot line so much worse...
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Eric:
>Fills a girl with seed.
>Leaves to train so he can protect her. Basically shounen timeskip.
>Comes back and the girl is married to two other men. Has given birth to one of their kids, and is pregnant with another.

What does Eric do in this situation?
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>>273264850
Marry her anyway and then impregnate her later on.
Then ask her to fuck the catboy slave butler while she's pregnant.
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I wish we had seen more of Rudeus' kids. Outside of the migger and Sieg, the only kind of remarkable one is Ars, and that's because he fucked his aunt.

This is also creates problems like Eris' greatest accomplishment as a parent is cutting her kid's arm to teach him a lesson.

Kinda of disappointing for a family focused story.
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>>273265100
I like Lily.
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Is having a dwarf daughter the ultimate bliss?

I cannot think or comprehend of anything more blissful than having a dwarf daughter. Honestly, think about it rationally. You are feeding, clothing, raising and rearing a girl for at least 18 years so she can inevitably go into the high arts. All the hard work you put into your beautiful little girl - reading her grand or technical literature, making her practice her dexterity, making sure she had a healthy booze-heavy diet, educating her, playing with her. All of it has one simple result: her minds gains a ravenous hunger for artistic knowledge and dexterous skill. All complimented and exemplified by her equally ravenous thirst for life's nectar (alcohol).

Raised the perfect girl? Great. You benefit yourself and the world. If you're lucky, a great dragon general who loves the arts will see her worth as you do and dotes on her with his knowledge. He gets to educate her thirsty mind every night. You get to see the benefits of her kind and sweet personality that came from the way you raised her being merged with the loving tutoring of a fellow man who can appreciate your pride and joy.

As a man who has a dwarf daughter, you are LITERALLY dedicating at least 20 years of your life simply to raise a girl to shower you and the world in her arts. All discussed over drinks you share from any age she wishes to drink; for a dwarf it not even being child abuse. It is the ULTIMATE AND FINAL bliss. Think about it logically.
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Jaegerbombs with Julie! Jaegerbombs with Julie and it isn't even child abuse! Teaching her how to microsolder a motherboard afterwards! Then more Jaegerbombs! With Julie!
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>>273255804
Then why is the story still unfinished even after Rudeus dies ?
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>>273265505
Because the true protagonist is ME!

I will defeat Hitogami! I will master all magic! I will master all sword styles! I will breed the banana! Me! Me! Me! Rudeus was only a warm-up to the true protagonist! A cuck!

I'm gonna fuck his daughter btw.
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>>273263951
>Story is about how Rudy mostly sits home pregnant while his three husbands go out doing odd jobs for the Dragon God
Sounds like a typical western women.
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In this hypothetical MT genderbender, shouldn't Eris be kinda of a little bitch who gets dommed? If in the original she's the husband, in the genderbender he should be the wife.
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>>273266118
Only in private, of course. That's when he becomes the wife (male). But outwardly, he's totally a normal macho man wth big dick energy.
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>>273266118
Super submissive Eric is gay as fuck.
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>>273266189
It's not gay if it's with a beastperson slave.
His grandma Sauria said so, and she's always right.
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I NEED to take FemOrsted's virginity.
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>>273266626
You'd be too scared to get hard.
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>>273267055
Male Ariel pissed himself and got hard. It's doable.
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>>273258997
oh god i hope they don't skip her nudes
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>>273261212
Thanks for the writeup.
I may read later
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>>273266626
It seems you do not understand the hierarchy here.
You are the one that will be pegged.
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>>273261461
She is a gold digger and a whore
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>>273267787
So what? Everybody with a brain is a gold digger, and Sylphiette pleased plenty of men before and after Rudy married her.
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>Whorested
heh
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I fucking hate film grain, fuck the director for smearing that shit on perfectly fine 2d animation.

Also this scene is one of the cringiest Ive seen in anime.
I don't feel bad for the mc for being mistreated by an npc, I feel bad for me for having to listen this high school dropout tier writing.
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>>273269476
The point of this discussion is kind of lost because of a handful of other interactions in the first book that are missed, like Sylphie's dad straight up telling Rudy that he makes his dad feel like unfit parents. His point about being a 20-year NEET through manipulation and talking to first-time parents in a world naive to modern manipulation is its own cheat-code and his manipulation of Roxy is another example. You might see it as "high school dropout tier writing" because you were first introduced to it in high school, but the perspective is literally a high-school dropout.
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>>273269645
The conversation with Lars was actually right before this, wasn't it?
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>>273269476
5/10 bait, could be better.
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>>273269753
>oh hey dad I had a fun day, I beat up 3 guys who were about to murder a girl via stoning her, it was a really close call we should like call the cops on them or something, oh wait you're the physical enforcer in this village. Quick go grab your sword and murder the boys before they murder raped more innocents!

>SON, I AM MAD. YOU ATTACKED AN INNOCENT PERSON, NO DONT DEFEND YOURSELF OR I SWEAR TO GOD IM GOING TO FUCKING PUNCH YOU TO DEATH.
>Wat, are you having psychotic episode?
>STOP. TALKING. APOLOGIZE RIGHT NOW. SAY YOURE SORRY NOTHING ELSE OR ITS TIME FOR A BEAT DOWN
>Dude I worked hard to earn your trust (good going rudy you're really selling the you're a kid who isnt isekaid adult person) why arent you listening to me?
.......
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the purpose of shitty bait is to get replies, so that the thread stays alive, even when there's genuinely nothing new to talk about.
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Making tons and tons of babies with Aisha while papa sethes
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>>273269890
okay no THIS is excellent bait
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>>273270084
I love the mental image of Paul picking up a sword and murdering 3 random village kids at his son's suggestion.
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>>273270169
If boys threw fist sized rocks at a young girl in medieval times what do you figure the consequences were?
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>>273270207
Boys will be boys.
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>>273270207
Definitely not that when the girl was a filthy green haired elf.

Jokes aside, while the execution of children over the age of 7 did happen, it was highly frowned upon, and typically other methods of punishment would be given. Paul certainly wouldn't just cut the kids down with a sword either, they would be tried, and if found guilty, they would then get hanged. And again, this being the most violent scenario.
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>>273270291
yeah, the insane part is green hair girls father doesnt immediately go out with a weapon to seek justice... but the boys go bitch and moan about being splashed with water and that reacher the village enforces ears SO CONVINGLY that hes willing to start beating his son without question

like man, I hate anime
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>>273270063
Rudy caused this. He could have just fucked Aisha or set her up with someone else if he was really allergic to incest, instead he just relied on Aisha to be his right hand man while completly ignoring her advances.
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>>273270343
I agree with you. I really wish we had a whole episode about Sylphie's father torturing those little boys. My god that would've been incredible. And then Rudeus gets tortured as well for being a 50 year old pedophile.
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>>273270343
>green hair girls father doesnt immediately go out with a weapon to seek justice...
He's a poorfag half-elven glorified watchman whose mom is the greatest whore beyond babylon.
Being an ethnic minority AND a foreigner (both he and his wife are from Millis) means that you're not going to freak out too muc when boys are being boys again.
So, instead of being combative people who rock the boat in the village, he and his human mutt wife cut their daughter's hair short, dress her up in clothes so that she can hide her mud-inviting hair, and teach her to just flee as soon as possible.
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>>273255804
Based asf
Best fantasy in animanga, plebs will deny it but it's the truth
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>>273270468
Do note that none of these things are established at the time the retarded scene happens in the anime.
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>>273270444
Isn't he a 40 year old pedophile by that point?
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>>273270541
The fact that he's the ethnic minority is, though.
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>>273270343
He was attempting to reign him in with force after having confided in Lars that he felt inadequate. He really was a sad drop-out loser of a father, but we heard very little of the story with Lilia's family in the anime.
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I want a what if story were Rudeus really does leave during the Paul confrontation. Mostly because I presume Zenith will proceed to castrate her husband.
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>>273270571
its not established ethnic minorities dont have the right to not have their daughter randomly stoned to death while walking around the village
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>>273270597
Ethnic minorities have the duty to be silent, or get hanged if they're being annoying.
We see in Europe what happens when people don't mistreat loud annoying ethnic minorities, after all.
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>>273270597
One little nigga picked one rock and was stopped before he threw it. There was no attempted stoning to death.
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>>273270572
He was 19 year old kid who had a middle aged man for a son
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>>273270668
>19
he was in his 20's by that point, wasn't he?
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If Paul and Zenith knew about Rudeus' true identity, would they have raped him?
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>>273270666
Only because the anime trope where villains beat up an innocent girl but are stopped by conveniently timed mc entering scene who effortlessly defeats them and gets the girl for his troubles.
That alone is horrible storytelling, The villains motivations are literally nothing but to act as vehicle for the mc to get a girl.
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>>273270718
Yeah he was 19 when Rudy was born, but the point stands. He was a young guy who only knew how to fight and suddenly had to take care of a boy, but when that chance began the boy in question had already lived twice as long as he had
It would get anyone down
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>>273270740
Villains beating up innocent girls happens all the time in real life, though.
And sometimes, they're even stopped before they beat up the girl too badly.
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>>273270804
I wonder how a male kid raised by Paul would have turned out...
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>>273270828
I like to think he wouldn't have been too unlike Rudeus, but a swordsman, not a mage
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>>273270828
He'd have joined the other brats in throwing mud and rocks at the greenhaired demon.
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>>273270828
genetically and thus neurologically, Rudy IS Paul's kid, he just started with past memories.
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>>273270809
Now that I think about even made in abyss had that scene, except the bad guy was a giant worm that tried to eat the girl and the savior got amnesia as a result for saving her. Isekai ojisan had uncle save elf from a giant worm for them to meet.
Dandandan had the woman save the boy for them to hook up.
samurai champloo mugen defeats baddies who harass kasumi

its endemic
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>>273270931
Good thing we can ignore memories being brain patterns and if he had the brain of a 30y old he would be much slower at learning new things.
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>>273270718
Just barely I’m pretty sure. When Rudeus reaches him after teleporting he’s apparently 30 so it’s possible he was 19 at the time of Rudeus’ birth
>>273270732
I feel like the best case scenario in that situation is that they are told that their firstborn would have been a stillborn without Rudeus so they just treat him like an adult serf while he grows up. Worst case scenario they freak out and try to get their “””real””” son through an exorcism or some shit back without knowing about how the baby would’ve been stillborn anyways. Neither of them are shotacons so I don’t think rape would be on the menu, that’s only if you get auntie Therese involved.
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>>273270952
That's just because it's a primal fantasy to meet a cute girl in danger so you can save her and fall in love
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>>273271000
He mentions it in the first book. I think Zenith was 17
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>>273270989
There was clearly skill in learning and precociousness with his little sister. Rudy comments on his neuroplasticity likely helping him soak in new things readily as well, saying it might have helped him with learning broad-stroke stuff like linguistics, but skill-wise in magic he definitely would have been gimped by not knowing voiceless casting could be a thing or basic level physics (he outdid Roxy's Cumulonimbus by remembering the physics from TV programming) and ultimately he simulated the explosion physics of a small-scale nuke in volume 15 to flatten a fucking forest. He's able to roughly differentiate the atomic masses around him in the air to make his fire magic more potent, but if he didn't know what atoms were then that wouldn't be as easy.
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>>273260574
I am a bit on the fence about watching it, a pal wasn't too happy because he felt the series pushed too hard on the MC still being connected to his older self and how apparently people can see him as that older perverted self.
What do you think anon?
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its like the trope where a conflict could be solved with one phonecall, except one actively punishes the other person for trying to tell him the information he needs because mental illness
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>>273271599
>the series pushed too hard on the MC still being connected to his older self
I would call that one of the main selling points. So many isekai don't feel like they had to actually be isekai and not just fantasy, in MT it really matters that Rudeus lived a past life full of regrets. His character is about moving on and doing better
And only one character ever sees him as his old body, but he already knows
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>>273255804
It's over, nothing will top it. That something with the potential to topple it would need to start existing now, and then spend years on establishing world building, world history, world culture and character progression. It's just not feasible. And nothing currently on the market has the potential to do so.

If we include manhwa then maybe the beginning after the end, but that's just too much of a copy.
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>>273255804
Series like this are literally once in a lifetime anymore. Be glad you where alive to experience it.
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>my 6y old who just recently was deadly afraid of leaving the house was ready to leave home for good after a brief conversation

Do I need to be japanese and have read the novels to understand this show?

Im a bit frustrated with scenes that make no sense, add no value, should be dramatically changed or skipped entirely and sentences that can't be added into a box where all the pieces fit together.
They should remove the monkeys from the writers room or have a looksie over the script with an editor?
Dont skip scenes that setup other scenes that the director deems plot critical? Theres 24 eps in a season, you have time to setup scenes.
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>>273273045
No matter what the series, an anime will never be able to include everything that's in a light novel. Especially a series like that. For what little time they have per episode, they do an excellent job of keeping the story coherent(unless it's impossible for you to pick up on subtext). If you want something better explained, I would highly suggest reading the LN. Hell I'd say read it anyways when you finish the anime.
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>>273273188
Is it like a pervasive issue that they dont edit the source material to fit the anime enough?
Like monogatari, konosuba or shinsekai yori didnt have this sorta nonsense by ep3
Youjo senki is a great example of a novel heavily edited into a script that fits a tv anime.
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>>273273045
Yeah, he's referencing his own background where he left home when he was 13 years old. Rudy also had a bit of time where he was just wandering around with the tome his mom bought him and learning about the landscape. His apprehension about leaving wasn't apparent that he was scared of leaving the house, but after all of his training and maturity it seemed much clearer to Paul that he'd be able to leave home at 6 when it was already a stretch for Paul at 13.

It's a blow to his ego for sure.

similar to
>>273273188
you can find the Audiobooks easily enough on nyaa. Cliff does decent VA work for what it's worth and helped me get through 1-12 (Season 1-2 are vol 1-12) easily and then I read after that.
https://nyaa.si/?f=0&c=0_0&q=mushoku+audiobook
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>>273273285
nta but I liked the S1 anime about on par with the LN's. I thought Volume 3 was particularly BETTER in the anime because I gave Vol 3 a low rating compared to the rest of the series, but it was well-animated.
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>>273255804
I really just want more Lara and Sieg
all other children are secondary
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>>273262278
The only reason she didn't is because she decided to first use Sylphie as a Trojan horse to get his allegiance, and then came to serve Orsted as a second line of alignment. But if she thought her goals would have been better served getting Rudy's dick herself, she would 100% have done it. Even in the later volumes she still considers it and flirts with him just in case.

She's as degenerate as he is too, she'd get off on the NTR aspect of it.
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>>273265100
Reminder that Rudy ruins his relationship with Sieg not just because of the Lucy fuckup, but because of something that happens to cause Sieg to abandon the Greyrat name and family allegiances entirely.
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>>273270063
He should have noticed or said something, no fucking way was any of the shit Aisha was doing normal.
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>>273274775
I'd say being the top henchman of the rebel prince who is going to wage a horrible continental war between the Kingdragon Realm, the Asuran Kingdom, the Ogre God Empire and the Neo-Shironian Rebel Province is probably grounds enough to not want to associate with him.
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>>273263694
Isolde and Doga is the most wholesome pairing from the secondary characters.
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>>273275199
even more wholesome than vierra & dozens of bandits?
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>>273255804
Is anime completely finished? It's been in my backlog for a while. Will probably watch the whole stuff on Christmas vacation.
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Snow white Sylphie pubes
With a streak of green
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>>273273045
He didn't know he was deadly afraid of leaving the house idiot. Only that he was a little nervous.
You need to rub some braincells together and think how a *medieval* father would assess his extremely independent, extremely genius son. This scene gave me no trouble whatsoever and it was before I read the LN.
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>>273275640
If you go by conventional storytelling standard, the father assumes societal norms for the son and if he left home at 13, which may be reasonable for a medieval society, he would not think its reasonable for a preteen to leave house. Just because a preteen doesnt have the knowledge on how to survive or physically manage it.

Then a child leaving home usually involves a rift between the child and the parents, which was absent here. You dont go "20 scenes of utterly rich and loving family life -> oh he's gonna abandon us because the 1 conversation was tense", you would set the rift between the parents up over time.

In the end the scene is just not going to add anything of value. You just waste several minutes on nonsense. Setting up a conflict out of the blue that gets resolved in the same scene is not storytelling.
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>>273275809
Paul was projecting on Rudy because he left before he was 12 after an argument with his father, you'd know that if you weren't a secondarynigger.
But yeah the Anime really does screw up the detail the LN provides so I don't really blame you that much for being retarded, but gain some media literacy in your spare time please.
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>>273263951
she is a slut
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>>273276983
After Eric ruined her pussy and left her, she can't get wet anymore...
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>>273277089
I hate this
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he's so dreamy...
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>>273277804
You know what's not sexy? That cropping attempt.
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>>273277089
More realistically, she would feel like Eric pumped-and-dumped her and develop a paranoia that all men are heartless players only out for her body.
Then she'd meet Sylphen at school, (disguised as a girl named Sylphie) and start to think she's a lesbian after falling for Syphies caring nature. She eventually finds out Sylphens true identity and tells him that she's not pure any more, but Sylphen says he accepts her no matter what and she learns to trust men again.
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bros i started reading the novel and it genuinely might ruin the show for me, only on vol 10 and its so good
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>>273278325
The show wont be ruined for you if you just treat it like like desert after a good dinner, fun to have but unneeded.
I couldn't think of another analogy
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>>273278343
yeah true, i've just read some of the unadapted stuff and i already know it's 100x better in my head than whatever bind ends up shitting out, so
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Redundancy's audiobook should hit any day now
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>>273255804
imouto thread
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>>273278564
No
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>>273278550
Who's the narrators? We're they sounds cute? I'm not going to listen to males speaking my ears, I'd rather ask Gemini to tell me to off myself
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>>273278564
ToT
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>>273278583
scruffy male who raises the pitch of his voice poorly to act out the women
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>>273278583
let this man whisper in your ears all of rudeus's thoughts
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No miggers below this post.
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Ok.
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Bye
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>>273259773
>>273260034
If Mushoku Tensei isn't a masterpiece, then no anime is. Cope with it.
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>>273278931
buddy did you see the disaster that was 99% of season 2?
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>>273278952
>season 2
Sir this is a ranobe thread
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>>273278952
>season 2
lol
lmao.
Sorry this isn't a fanfiction thread.
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>>273278992
>ranobe
>no anime is
bro?
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>>273279012
ranobe is a branch of anime, autistbro
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ENTER SOLCHAD
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>>273279163
These over the top jumps and spins look retarded.
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>>273279185
>tfw he can't into TOUKI
Heh, magelets. When will they ever learn?
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>>273279185
Well that's great since that well animated scene wasn't even included in the actual anime and only in a pre-animated trailer.
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>>273278595
>she smol
>she cling
>she cook and clean
>she good is bed
Bestest Daughter-Sister-Mommy-Wife
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PAUL IS BACK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWXAVb_MSLs
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>>273280164
Does he rape the dojo owner's daughter?
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>>273280035
>no Aunt
one job
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>>273280324
No idea, I guess we'll have to see
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>>273277804
He really is... (In the LN, not in the anime)
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>>273263951

Faggot
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>>273255804
who's the elf with the red haired loli on her lap?
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>>273282240
What happens if I stick my dick in there?
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>>273282359
You already saw her in the last episode
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>>273282430
No, I dropped it back in S1, but now I understand, thank you.
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>>273282566
You should pick it back up. It's better than your favorite series.
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>>273255804
>pedoshit
>masterpiece
lmao
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>>273270361

Isn't a half sister the same as a cousin at this point? If he's so averse to it why would he shackle up and breed his cousin?

Out of all the opportunities to expand his harem Aisha was the biggest L. I can forgive him ignoring the cat and dog. But Aisha deserved it, she was raised to be his eternal servant and loyal companion.
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>>273282778
Second cousins (Eris) are far enough removed that even the real world considers any sexual interaction between two such people absolutely normal and okay. They only have a greatgreatparent as a common ancestor.
Half-siblings on the other hand are as close to siblings as it gets, since either daddy or mommy is shared, and with Rudeus, it's not just the belief in the laws and ethics of his prior life in that regard that hinders him from dicking his half-sister.
It's also the subconscious guilt of betrayal by fapping to his older brother's daughter when he was busted that probably prevents him from feeling aroused by any people he now considers himself to be closely related, like his new mom and his new sisters.
One could theorize if Rudeus had been a single child otaku NEET porn-addicted loser in his prior life if he then would actually indulge in the fantasy of fucking a voluptous half-sister maid or not.
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>>273259855
Explosive success makes artists lazy.
t. successful artist.
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>>273282695
Kill yourself, retarded tourist.
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>>273282983
Animefag, he did indulge in the fantasy of grinding the cute imouto, he just don't want to due act on his urge due to spoilers
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>>273255804
More like shitpiece.
Yeah, a lot.
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>>273255804

Isekai is shit. And the king of shit (MT) will still be shit.
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>>273284114
>>273284139
You lost, tranny.
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>>273255804
I like how his dad dies but his mom and semistepmom survive, and how he only has sisters. No males allowed in the family unless you are Rudy's son, that would be too treatening for the self insert audience!
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>>273260574
Thing is, i keep asking myself, how come out of every fucking isekai author, only Rifujin felt it was a good idea to include those things in his story?
Seems like a no brainer, right? Apparently not. I keep trying to watch other isekai shows and it's just retarded animeslop through and through.
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>>273284272
Cliff is family though. He's a... step-grandad to Rudeus and also the father of his daughters husband?
Man, that family tree is fucked up when you think about it.
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>>273284272
>No males allowed in the family
ENTER RUIJERD GROOMERDIA
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Zanoba is family too, we all know he bangs Lily behind the counter.
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>>273284272
>he doesn’t know
Ruijerd married norn>>273284369
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>>273284272
His son literally fucks one of his sisters and impregnates her.
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>>273284646
Also Christina married Ariel’s son but I guess Christina won’t be born for a while in the anime adaption yet.
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>>273284690
Whe won't be born at all unless they animate redundancy.
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>>273271599
>people usually complain how MC has no connection to his past self
>Rudy's past life is the main theme of the story
>nooo not like this!
you literally cannot please these normalfags whatsoever, if you hate Rudy then I don't think that anime in general is for you, since there are many MCs that did shit far more vile than Rudy but don't even get the fraction of attention he gets
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>>273285602
Yeah, Araragi could be honestly convicted of rape and grooming in most countries and nobody gives a shit.
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>>273286176
the door's that way
>>>/out/
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why dont they remake MT with the isekai shit and neet mc written out and instead its like a tolkien fantasy
it'd be way more popular
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>>273287917
>it'd be more popular
>>>/leddit/
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>>273278325
Anime is meh compared to the LN indeed. It’s just that the source LN is so good that it pushed this anime adaption to above average.
We’ll see though we’ll see…since it has practically been confirmed that we’re getting that full adaption I might end up wrong we’ll see how they handle the turning points because the ONLY, and I mean ONLY scene where anime really shined at and did justice to the LN and more was turning point 2.
Everything else adaption wise has been ok to meh. Not that surprising though since not everything can be adapted within a 20 minute timeframe.
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>>273282832
You think he got a big whiff as he pulled them down?
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>>273287917
If you want a story that is less interesting but very popular then just watch Frieren.
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>>273282832
has anyone seen more contorted and telegraphed event in media
>a cute girl is being abused by boys
>mc calls her a boy
Oh we're doing a thing
>cute girl continues to be a cute girl and mc keeps calling her a boy
Why anime, you drew her as a cute girl. What the..
>she fails to tell mc her name and doesnt correct herself
>it starts raining and 2 water magicians decide not to like magic shield themselves from water
>"oh no we are wet, lets go to bath" and the girl who refuses to tell mc shes a girl goes into the bathing room expecting something other than bathing I guess
>she then refuses to either say "oh sorry I'll just go after you" or "leave the room" and instead catatonically waits mc to strip her down
>BIG REVEAL SHES A GIRL except the viewer knew that the moment she was drawn on screen so its just retarded

This is probably like top 5 anime not to tell other people to watch.
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>>273289207
It was a novel before it was a anime.
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>>273287917
That's the main premise of Mushoku Tensei's sequel, except Rudeus already inserted his degenerate genes into this world, and you have this blue gremlin running amok
but don't expect it to come out for the next 10+ years
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>>273289307
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MT Hate feels so artificial. Maybe it just the signs of the times, if it was released in 2000 it would be considered one of the greatest anime of all time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv90lUOoP8w
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>>273289412
this, it has always felt like a manufactured hate and outrage by the woke moralist mob
Except people are not stupid and most didn't fall for this
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>>273261832
>>peak of fantasy
>not MT
name it then
>>peak of fiction
>not MT
name it then
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>>273289623
>peak of fiction
nta but Invitation to a Beheading
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>>273289412
it would help if MT didn't attract loud and dumb fans like Re:Zero, which is FAR more convoluted.
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>>273290014
I tried to read Re:Zero in my post MT depression.
Didn't make it through the first chapter.
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>>273290055
It's a rough ride and the anime only makes it bearable because you can hate-watch Subaru being insufferable, but it's much harder to hate-read it.
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>>273255804
goyslop trash for western cucks
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>>273290105
>goyslop
Yeah, Season 2 really fell on hard times
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>>273290055
I liked the first few arcs after that it was like whatever and I dropped it, idk.
>>273290105
It's more popular in Japan thoughever.
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Red and blonde are the best hair colors.
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>>273290055
For post MT depression I actually recommend going for a totally different genre. Don't try to find anything like MT because you just won't and will be disappointed as a result.

Just read something completely different or if you must read isekai/tensei go for a different feel like Honzuki it's not bad I'll also throw in Conqueror from the dying kingdom too which is another decent series and a slow burner.

For a more misunderstanding comedic feel there's kagejitsu, evil lord, nageki no bourei etc but I'm sure you already know this stuff.
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>>273290105
>western cucks
too busy crying about pedophilia and slavery in a fantasy world
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>>273290660
kek
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>>273282832
I should hurry up and watch the anime already
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>>273284508
>Lily
He already has his daughterwife.
It would actually be interesting if Rifujin paired up one of his daughters as a second or third wife, if he wants to convince the audience that Rudeus loves all his wives equally
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Rudeus should have entered in a monogamous relationship with dog girl.
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>>273291777
Worst what IF VITA dream. Best one is Ariel and you know it.
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>>273291162
Pair Julie with Lily.
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>>273292178
All Vitas's were trash.
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>>273293185
The one where he agrees to let Zenith set him up with some girl was pretty interesting
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>>273293185
banging aisha in the bathtub while paul watched was kino
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>>273293185
t. death god
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I can't oversell how refreshing it felt to have a regular fucking dude who's way weaker than the mc as one of the main antagonists of the whole story.
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>>273259958
2027 would be great if that means that they'll actually work on it and not on the 3 other projects they have taken on aswell. Pls Bind
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>>273289412
I have yet to meet a single person IRL that has shown me any kind of hate for MT. There are people from 16 to 35 with kids that enjoy the show and don't see anything wrong with morally questionable themes in a FICTIONAL world. All the hate I ever see is from Xitter/Reddit retards that usually have some weird pronoun in the bio
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nice room arrangement
did they like have a different animation team make a cgi asset thats gets pasted on top another teams work

Its like the table is floating in front of the background
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>>273255804
How was the sex between Rudy and Roxy?
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>>273296453
you'll just need to imagine
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>>273296491
So it wasn't rough?
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>>273293185
Tulpa Paul showing up was absolute kino
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>>273297560
true
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it seems that it will take at least 2 years before that "sequel"
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>>273298914
Only two years? Anon you've given me the best news I've heard in fucking months. I'm elated.
I thought he'd wait like a decade for the anime to end
Thank you
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>>273298914
well, that's until he can START the sequel, so it'll be much longer
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>>273299038
I don't read many LNs, but do you think he'll still publish it as a WN first?
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>>273299078
I think he'll start it as a proper LN this time, he already made a name for himself and got connected to a big publisher. No reason to write it on narou at this point.
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>>273299078
>>273299303
He's writing the orc eroica as a WN too so I think he would write is as that again. Probably more comfortable writing in that format.
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>>273299384
I suppose he would deal with less censorship in at least one format, so we'd get some stuff like Rudeus' niece or Aisha and Ars
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There seems to be a theme of temporarily making characters retarded so that the author can write the mc to say something a 12y old would know and the other characters go
> wow thats real smart and not something I knew before
> I shall experience character growth to reach the mental status of a 12y old now

Another slightly annoying thing is expositing shit that is redundant information to the viewer.
Then some scenes a character says a thing he would've realistically said much sooner because it was prudent to convey information to others asap, much later to a shocking reveal which basically wastes the time of other people.
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>>273299735
Post 75 cases this happened.
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>>273296971
It was moderately rough, and both partners made it that way.
Not bed breaking bone shattering snu snu like Eris, but just passionate lovers. As opposed to Sylphie who goes dead fish.
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>>273299855
>As opposed to Sylphie who goes dead fish.
Delusional. Sylphie is the sex most filled with love.
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>>273299735
Post your example on how this is relevant to this thread
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>>273299735
what the fuck are you even talking about
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>>273299855
>dead fish.
>Literally states in plain text she's not a dead fish
>hurr durr dead fish
kys
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>>273300160
What a gay pose
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>>273300189
mushoku tensei the anime
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>>273299855
I might be misremembering, but isn't she described as the most 'technical' lover while Roxy just submits completely to him? Or was it the other way around
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>>273300289
other way around
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>>273278325
Which is why I do not reread the novel when the anime is close, if I remember how much they cut than I cannot enjoy it.
Thus it's even worse when I realize that something massive was changed, like episode 23 of season 2. I might even say it was the worst one.
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>>273299855
I saw a picture, it was a text screenshot either from the LN or WN. Of the sex saying it was rough for Roxy from another thread, I tired to look for it but couldn't find it.
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>>273299735
>autist finally realised how human conversation and thought process works
If you're thinking stuff like how Rudy didn't immediately tell Paul about his predicament through Demon Continent and he even told his adventue to him very gleefully, it's because he didn't want to worry his father upon their reunion and to show he's fine after missing for years. Paul misunderstood this as Rudy having a field trip with his GF and a strong SP despite the situation, so a fight started. Such things are totally realistic and do happen IRL
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>>273295204
most props in Greyrat house were 3D models, but they were usually barely noticeable because of grain filter
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>>273300405
>pic
I don't get it, but it's funny
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>>273300479
It was rough for Roxy because of her small stature. Not really because Rudy loves her so much.
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Fingers crossed anon-kun! Let's hope the best section of the story gets the production's time it deserves!
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>>273298914
Yes! Yes!
That's the best thing ever! We hopefully won't wait another 10 years for the sequel!
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>>273299303
Probably WN, that way he can correct it later if something isn't done properly. Like he did with MT.
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>>273300574
>I pushed her down onto the bed—roughly, violently. Maybe I just had frustration to spare.
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>>273300563
Some current meme from twitter. This one was cute so I saved it
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>>273299904
I hope not
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>>273300547
are they just placing the 3d models by hand, it feels like the perspective is wrong
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>>273298914
He's probably referring to Orc Hero here and not Mushoku Tensei anime, he most likely has contractual obligations to fulfil
anyway this is very good news if it's to be believed
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>>273299904
Doubt it, she's a gorilla
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>>273300838
Definitely, after all it wasn't his idea so it probably comes harder than MT which he already had clearly in mind when he started writing it.
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>>273298914
I do wonder if he will start immediately or not. Like I wonder if already has been working on some notes or ideas on how the sequel will go and if he already has some sort of skeleton of the story, or maybe he will take some time to do this, or if this nigga will just wing it.
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>>273301192
I sincerely hope he already has a general idea of how it's going, considering all the setup in MT
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>>273300267
This is a LNgod thread.
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>>273301192
after sony buys kadokawa they'll just use ai to write the sequel and publish it under his name
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>>273301317
I bet you dont even own a kindle
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>>273301455
I never leave my PC why would I need a kindle?
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>>273301713
Buy the books, niggas
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>Buy
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why doesnt the local village chief arrange a marriage for the nubile young woman working as a maid, is he retarded?
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>>273303328
it's a natural progression for the son of a chuuni to become an edgelord
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>>273303381
Lilia is a slave escapee from nobility, she only managed to procure a job since he knew Paul during her childhood. But she actually has nothing left in her life anymore beyond it. She really owes her life to Zenith.
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>>273303574
good thing paul decided to let her wife kill their maid he fucked
it really establishes him as a believable character
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>>273255804
I know it would've been spoilers for Redundancy but it kind of bothers me how the cover of Volume 26 takes place ~10 years after the battle in Biheiril, and Norne is there but Ruijerd isn't when they get married presumably within a year of the final battle.

>>273256094
No matter how good it is, it'll never be able to live up to MT. Unless Rifujin has been planning it since writing MT, it's impossible.
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>>273303822
He just couldn't choose, so he pussyfooted around. If he ever stick up for Lilia, he'd lose Zenith for real. It's pretty realistic behavior for a free-spirited male on the irresponsible side
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>>273300746
That's only really the first time. After that he treats her like a princess uwu
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>>273303963
the only actual princess rudy knows is ariel so does this mean he lets roxy piss on him?
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>>273304012
Considering it's Roxy, I doubt he'd complain if she wanted to.
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>>273300405
Honestly, I hate that they cut so much, but usually when things are deliberately changed or added, it's for the better. Episode 23 of S2 is one of the few examples where the changes made things worse.
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>>273299078
Honestly, I think he's not going to write a WN/LN and it'll just be an entirely anime original sequel done after MT ends.
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>>273303381
>village chief arrange a marriage
Paul was a knight and everyone assumed that he was already banging Lilia anyway
Aisha being born only confirmed everyone's bias
>>273303574
>slave escapee
she was fired because of her leg wound during a failed assassination attempt in Asura
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>>273304079
Skipping so much of the desert travel to Begaritt is a crime they can't be released for in their lifetime.
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>>273304348
honestly the only times i ever felt like i was reading filler in the LN was the damn desert journey shit, and that asinine trip to the Divine Continent in volume 23. World building is nice and all but we honestly got all the best parts of the desert journey in the anime. The trip to the Divine Continent genuinely pisses me off though, it's so blatantly wedged in there just so people would stop asking about the Divine Continent, and so that all three wives went with Rudeus on at least one trip, that it's not even funny.

>Show up at Perugius's with Sylphie, Eris, Zanoba and Orsted
>everyone leaves
>go to the divine continent with Sylphie, Roxy and Eris
>get to the shrine
>get instantly teleported back to Perugius's fortress
>Roxy has to leave because Perugius is just kind of a dick like that
>Suddenly Orsted and Zanoba are back
>all this just to do some shit that could've been done on fucking Chaos Breaker
WHAT IS EVEN THE FUCKING POINT?
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>>273304462
The travel in the desert was neat. When they were fighting the bandits, they had a talk about a pregnant woman being the wife of a guard they hired, and Rudeus superimposed that image to Sylphie at home, and it served as a lesson for him and about how he would do if he were in that situation. My memory is a bit foggy, but I think those little things is why I find it nice. Also, it's a cool adventure to the unknown towards his mother, it's too integral and exciting for them to skip it. It matters a lot for the story, pacing-wise too.
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>>273304683
No, it was that Carmelita had a kid with Tont (the guy who got killed by the bandits) and that's why she gets pissed at Rudeus for not just going god mode and killing thousands of camelfuckers all at once in a display of dominance.
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>>273304759
Yes, although I couldn't remember the exact detail, I still remember that I found that segment nice.
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>>273300289
Other way around. Sylphie is pure submission and that's all she is, to the point that Elinalise even refuses to give Sylphie sex tips to let her improve. Rudy does all the work. Roxy is technical in bed, always open to experimentation and trying new things with him, making it more give and take depending on the experiment. Eris pins him down and makes him submit to her, he's her boytoy.
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>>273304887
>to the point that Elinalise even refuses to give Sylphie sex tips to let her improve
She doesn't teach Sylphie because she knows Rudeus gets turned on more when she acts cutesy and innocent. It stimulates the male instinct, making Rudeus feel the urge to manhandle her and "do all the work".
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>>273304462
>WHAT IS EVEN THE FUCKING POINT?
Character bonding
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MT is one of my favorite series of all time. I just love the atmosphere it has for some reason, it's special in the sense that it's world and it's characters just feel so alive even if you don't feel anything about them
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>yep, looking good
>thats what I'd wear if I was in her shoes
>good design, buddy
>thanks, pal
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>>273306743
to be fair she only wears that because her party members nagged about her walking around topless, if it was up to her she'd be buck naked.
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>>273263951
>gendebend
So a fat femcel shotacon con who gets reincarnated into a shota?
Is the reincarnation also genderbent?
Making her a loli looking for that shota cock?
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>>273275281
>anime completely finished?
Not even halfway.
But if you holding off on watching it, you probably haven't read the LN, either.
If you don't start now you're gonna get spoiled heavily
Don't go to the basement, Rudy
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>>273276983
Wouldn't "she" just look like Norn, though?
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>most unique Isekai to be animated
>world is played straight with sincerity, little to no 4th wall breaking irony unless it's native to the world like the demon loli
>no stat screens
>it eventually ends.
gee i wonder why people like this show
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>>273289207
>Not knowing elf lore
But seeriously he was under the mistaken impression that elves in general were androgynous and he was actively trying to push his "sylphie might actually be a girl" thoughts away since he made the judgment the "he" was a boy.
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>>273284359
>Man, that family tree is fucked up when you think about it.
Tomaru Sawagoe
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>>273288497
>Pic
spoiler that shit
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>>273299904
She doesn't even like to shower.
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>>273301932
I won't tell you to not torrent it, but I will tell you it might become impossible to buy a physical copy later on
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>>273308035
WTF
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>>273308035
My country is a shit hole, but not that fucking gay, fuck Australia.
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>>273307930
Has anyone won harder at life than he?
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>>273308062
Buy physical now while you can.
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>>273255804
>Everything is so peak.
This is bullshit and you know it. I lost all respect for the author during Rudeos vs. Orstead fight where instead of being creative with magic, Rudy just spammed Boulder Bullets at him. MT is okay, and certainly deserves credit for actually giving a harem ending that ends in marriage & children, but I'm sick and tired of faggots like you who mindlessly suck the author's cock and pretend its some brilliant masterpiece when its objectively 7 or 8 which can be subjectively elevated to 10 based on how much you like harems
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>>273308423
Rudeus is most adept at Earth Magic. It's his best shot at hurting him. Firing it like a machine gun will also prevent him from getting too close. Casting Quagmire or Frost Nova won't even faze Orsted, and he'll stomp him the next second. Nuking him on surprise and bombarding him from afar was the smartest move.
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>>273308423
>instead of being creative with magic, Rudy just spammed Boulder Bullets at him.
He kind of had to, it was his quickest spell and Orsted can just disable magic any magic that takes longer to cast than his own disable magic.
This strategy is called "suppression" and not meant as a finishing blow, but to keep the enemy occupied and unable to do anything to advanced without opening themselves up to a larger attack.
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>>273303328
He's a shonen protagonist
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>>273308423
I'm programmed to view everything in this thread as bait now. I've been mindbroken by the people in this thread.
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>>273308423
Out of everything you could've complained about you chose this?
Rudeus had a gatling gun. He used it. That's it.
If you wanted an actual asspull, you could've mentioned how Geese suddenly went retarded and forgot about how Rudeus actually used fire magic when they were fighting hydra.
Now that shit was properly retarded.
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>>273308817
>If you wanted an actual asspull, you could've mentioned how Geese suddenly went retarded and forgot about how Rudeus actually used fire magic when they were fighting hydra.

Wasn't this whole thing some mistranslation where Geese says he didn't know Rudeus could use fire magic in the english TL, but in the JP it sounded more like he didn't think Rudeus' fire magic was as powerful as his other ones so he didn't prepare for it? I vaguely remember this being discussed here before and some anon talking about this.
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>>273308817
>>273308594
Using "Gatling gun" was fine, it was decent idea. What was not fine was Rudy continuing to use like retarded ungabunga even when he noticed that his initial plan with it wasn't working. If the author was unimaginative hack, he shouldn't have written Rudy as magical genius creative with magic.

You're right about Geese as well, and it just proves my point that MT has its fair share of dumb shit and forced contrivances which prove that it never was the masterpiece its fanboys insist. MT is good, but it has too many flaws to be called great
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>>273308877
Obviously, i can't read the moonrunes, so i'm going off the official translation.
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>>273308904
I can read moon, post the raws and we can settle this
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>>273308902
Thing is, every other isekai is just so much worse, MT wins by a landslide even when you count these missteps.
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>>273300746
What's the source for that? Like the chapter of LN or WN.
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>>273308904
>>273308921
I looked at the archives, and I believe I'm correct. Though I found some anon posting Rifujin responding to someone asking about it.

>https://mypage.syosetu.com/mypageblog/view/userid/288399/blogkey/1118266/

・ギースは火魔術は一切想定してなかった?いやそれはおかしいので、火魔術に対する防護だけ弱めだったって感じでいいんでしょうか。
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 ルーデウスはいざという時に水か土を使うので、
 火と風に対する防護は弱めでした。
 なんで全部完璧にしなかったのっていうと、持ちきれなかったからです。
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>>273308817
Tbf, burning the wound of a dragon vs. flash-firing the entire forest are completely different things.
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>>273308952
Other Isekai being worse don't magically elevate MT from good to great anon. There are undoubtedly people for whom MT is 10/10, but my point was that's not universally true despite how loud the fanboys rave about it
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>>273308902
I have no idea what your argument is supposed to be. The magic system is mostly elemental and doing anything that deviated greatly from known magic required proper research, at that point Rudeus' most powerful spell, that he was most comfortable casting, was his emperor-tier rock bullet, which was already a testament to his creativity, since the entire spell was remodeled to be as deadly as possible, and before even going medium range against orsted he did the most powerful shit he could do at that moment and Orsted tanked it (meteor, nuclear explosion, mountain-sized ice, freezing at absolute zero). How did you want him to get creative? Take a new never-seen-before spell out of his ass and use it? That would be far more contrived than Rudeus sticking to what he was most comfortable with and what we know he could do up to that point. Rudeus running out of ideas was just a testament to the fact that Orsted was just brokenly powerful.
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>>273308902
He can't run away, it's that simple. He's fucking fighting Dragon God Orsted. You have no idea how much of a [[[[[[[[[[[[[power gap]]]]]]]]]]]]] there is. Once the nuke blew off, Orsted's chase began. Even Rudeus knew he's going on a suicide mission before he set off. No amount of "creativity" will save you, even a Disco North God King will end up with a hole in his chest, there's no saving you once fight him. He's just that overpowered kind of character, that's who Orsted is in the Six-Sided World.
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>>273309053
Yep.
I mean, he managed to shatter a fighting god with a single rock bullet previously. And even before that, when he fought Orsted as a child, a rock bullet looked like it did the most damage.
So it just stands to reason that he should just spam the fucking thing.
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Complaining about the second fight with Orsted is just a retarded shitpost bait, and you retards are falling for it.
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>>273308423
>Rudy just spammed Boulder Bullets at him
You act like Rudy is some master tactician and not the equivalent of a toddler with a nuke.
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>>273308983
>Other Isekai being worse don't magically elevate MT from good to great anon.
It does though. Until another series appears and reaches at least the same highs, MT is the greatest isekai fantasy work by default.
Everything is judged in comparison, anon.
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>>273309098
Ssshhhhhh. He is keeping the thread alive. He is a hero.
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>>273255804
just play Rance, the game series that inspired it.
Ruijerd is literally male Feliss
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>>273309177
Wait.
So Paul is just a little bit less rapey Rance?
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>>273308966
"Did Geese not expect fire magic? No, that's not right, it was just that the protection against fire magic was weaker.

Because Rudeus was using Water God-style at the critical moment, the protection against fire and wind was weaker.
While everything wasn't perfect, he couldn't hold it anymore."

Seems to me that Geese just didn't expect it despite being aware of it
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>>273308983
I prefer MT over Berserk or Made in Abyss. Anime isn't such a big deal, it's just media. And there really isn't a perfect series anywhere
You might call me a fanboy, but it's simply a matter of preference, I guess
I also have fun with those two series btw, and I like making threads about and discussing them on some degree
Donovan raping kid Guts? Funny as fuck.
Bondrewd? Pretty cool.
But I still prefer MT over them. Well, it's not really a matter of ranking. I don't rate any series at all, it's about what an anime can offer and which clicks with me the best
I think I can probably create a "better" fantasy series than Berserk or MiA or MT if I try, but I still won't stop fanboying over what I like
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>>273309103
This would be fair take if author hadn't tried to portray Rudy as something more than toddler with nuke only to end up proving his lack of creativity when Orsted came up


>>273309119
MT can be greatest Isekai despite being mediocre product, these things are not mutually exclusive. Normal man being able to win against Special Olympics-contestants does not make them a great athlete.
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>>273309282
>This would be fair take if author hadn't tried to portray Rudy as something more than toddler with nuke
When did he do this? All of his best shit was designed by Zanoba and Cliff and Rudy, his best plans were by Cliff, and any skills he gained after the Orsted fight was due to his training with Orsted. Hell without Eris he would've been dead 10x over.
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>>273309282
Rudy is considered a genius at magic because he's chantless and because of the firepower of the spells he can blow off with his mana pool. Not really because he's well-versed with Quantum Physics.
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bait-tranny can't even explain what Rudeus should have done better in the fight anyway.
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>>273309187
Paul is pathetic as a man and as a father. don't compare Rance to him
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>>273309282
>MT can be greatest Isekai despite being mediocre product
What the fuck are you even saying?
It's like implying that this boat is better than a car.
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>>273309356
Adventurer Paul is an absolute chad. He constantly had threesomes with these kind of women in his party, to the point that he completely left a mark on them in their minds even after they disbanded and he got hitched years later.
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>>273309550
He should have been as free as the wind and never settled down with just one woman.
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>>273309692
virgin pious pussy > feral beast pussy + the pussy of a thousand open gates, apparently.
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>>273309119
>Everything is judged in comparison, anon.
No, they're not. That kind of thinking has some truth in it, but it's still shallow. Don't be a retarded migger.
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I think I found the full pic of the first frame of the anime
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>>273309550
Reminder that Geese refuses to ever teach another woman to cook again because of how Zenith ruined their party.
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>>273309847
Go on, judge something in a vacuum.
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>>273309979
I am the greatest. There's nothing ever better than me in all time and space. Only me matters. There, I judged something in a vacuum.
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>>273309993
How do you know that if you never compared yourself to others?
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>>273310008
Because I'm myself. You're misunderstanding. I'm not the greatest because of others, I'm the greatest because I'm me.
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>>273310022
Then you got an uninformed opinion that can be safely ignored by everyone.
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>>273309954
Zenith won the Paul-bowl during the Fangs of the Wolf-season, after all.
But then Lilia snatched a surprise goal later on.
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>>273310069
So, you're just a pathetic bandwagoner who can't judge something on his own and can't even make his very own decisions? Fuck off my thread, retard.
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>>273259855
>>273256094
Didn't he mention that he will work on the sequel AFTER the anime finishes the entire story?
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>>273310089
I have no idea how you came to that conclusion. Judging the work by yourself while comparing it to others you expiriences =/= parroting someone else.
You'd know that if you weren't a gormless philipinx.
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>>273310099
After he finishes Orc Eroica, he has to start a new project just for the sake of money.
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>>273310102
The difference between us is that I have a will of my own and I don't let "everyone" decide it on some arbitrary ranking. Judging "a thing" by comparing it to "another" is already bullshit. Nothing with worth could ever be the exact same, that's why they can still stand even in a vacuum.
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>>273310142
Stop being retarded.
When you watch or read something, subconciously or not, you're still comparing it to things you saw in the past.
Even if you're a literal child watching your first cartoon, your brain compares it to the reality around you and you go "cool".
You are literally unable to judge anything in a vacuum because you don't exist in a vacuum, retard.
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>>273310189
No, you're not. You're not comparing it. You're just experiencing it as it is. That's why that in itself stands in a vacuum. Or what? Did you somehow thought that you are someone that had it "better" when you were conceived and born from your mother's pussy than when you never existed?
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>>273310226
Alright, i take it back. You're not a retard, you're an incoherent schizo.
Go buy a car without comparing your choice, without considering other options and judge it in a vacuum, without comparing it to something you had previously and see how it goes.
I'm done talking to your delusional ass.
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Harems are inherently disgusting to me
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>273310311
You're dumb, kek
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>>273310342
woman
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>>273310311
>Go buy a car without comparing your choice, without considering other options and judge it in a vacuum, without comparing it to something you had previously and see how it goes.
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Sylphienigger being a retarded third worlder as usual.
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>>273310630
I didn't begin to like Sylphie just because Roxy and Eris is shit compared to her.
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>big mommy milkers
>perfect ss setup
yet
>nothing happens
>offscreen death
OH SERIOUSLY FUCK THIS SHIT I'M DONE
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>>273310877
Was she raped to death?
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>>273310877
The series has some fantastic MILF's and tit queens but the faggot MC only fucks with young flatties, at least as far as I've gotten up to so far.
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>>273310971
yes she was
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>>273310971
>teleported with husband to conflict zone
>considered spies
>tortured
100% they made Philip watch while the guards ran a train on her
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Eris joining the marriage makes me seethe. Roxy was bad enough but Erirs' personality changing on a dime hurts. Like Rudy isn't that important to her.
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I hate this cunt like you wouldn't believe.
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>>273311093
>>273311134
they were executed by government related agency probably in public, so no
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>>273311300
They wouldn't have been executed on the spot. And even if the execution was in public, she and her husband would've been interrogated privately first. She almost certainly got raped, it's a common form of torture against women in war, doubly so for a milk mommy like her
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>>273311210
I'm only halfway through the second season and I haven't read the manga but 100 bucks says her 'curse' is bullshit and she's just a colossal slut
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>>273311479
Well guess you owe me $50
The curse is real AND she's a slut
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>>273311210
Why? She's incredibly based.
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>>273312312
>200 year old whore gets turned into a housewife after developing a shota fetish and finding 1/4 hobbit perma shota
She hit the fucking jackpot.
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>>273312312
Filthy cock gobbling whores shouldn't get happy endings
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>>273312481
How does Cliff keep up? In terms of powerlevel, Elinalise is the Orsted of sex. Yet Cliff has sex with her (at least) once per day and still lives.
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>>273312810
Can't really do anything other than gobbling cocks when the alternative is death. She became a loyal TRAD wife once Cliff fixed her. She even made an eternal love vow at the wedding even though Cliff gave her a till death us part one.
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>>273255804
I literally thinks that in the entire story there is just one flaw, that scene on the bridge made absolutely no sense.

I've only read the web novel so i don't know if the author changed it the LN
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>>273310099
Yes, that is why I hope he changes his mind. It will take years before the anime is done.
He should start at least after Orc Eroica is done.
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>>273312856
That's dumb though. So the curse drains her health if she doesn't fuck, right? She could have discreetly sought out men or straight up paid one man to be her perpetual lover on her travels. Not a stretch given it's shown she pays the men who bang her.
But no. She sucked and fucked literally EVERY man she came across and at the drop of a hat, she had constant orgies and she did it like an exhibitionist whore, not caring who watched or joined in. So she's clearly a nympho on top of the curse. Whether she grew to like being a mega slut from the curse is irrelevant, fact is she IS one. Curing the curse wouldn't change that, there is no fucking way that one dick would satisfy her and that she'd stay faithful to him.
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>>273313358
>goes to academy to lift curse
>fucks her way through faculty and student body looking for brainiac who could lift it
>introduced to Cliff
>realizes he's a genius
>latches onto him as best hope
>see that he's a simp for her and adjusts seduction tactic accordingly
Cliff got played, she was def playing hide the salami behind his back
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>>273313358
It doesn't drain her health, the magic crystalizes inside her and kills her, like a kidney stone.
She has severe trauma after her backstory of having no clue what's going on, her then husband being killed and chased out for needing sex.
Yes she is a slut, or more accurately, she became one to cope. If you have to have sex might as well enjoy it no?

And yes there is an after effect, even though Cliff fixes the curse, her craving for sex is not subsiding, a result of her body being conditioned for so many years. She is absolutely loyal though. She never even ponders cheating on Cliff.
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>>273313622
>t. Cliff
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>>273313622
I used to think you could fix sluts too, bro.
Protip; you can't. Once a slut,always a slut, you can't make a hoe a housewife
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>>273313703
Cliff did just that though.
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>>273313722
Sure he did, anon. Just like I'm sure he doesn't question those walks she takes now and then to 'clear her head', or her two hour trips into town when she insists on going by herself. After all, a woman would never lie and be able faithful to someone she claims to love, right?
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>>273313846
He doesn't question it.
And she would never cheat.
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>>273313622
>She never even ponders cheating on Cliff
Liar.
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>>273313846
2D women are not 3D whores, they are loyal when they meant it
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>>273313622
I dunno, I can't blame Cliff for falling for a busty elf who fucks like an animal, but uh, yeah, I'd keep a REAL close eye on her if I was him.
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>>273313900
He doesn't do that and doesn't need to.
She also isn't busty.
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>>273313622
>>273313863
This is cope. You can't say a sex addict never even contemplates cheating, and she's clearly a sex addict, curse or not. Even a fucking saint gets tempted from time to time, and she's no saint.
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>>273313984
The only one coping is you because you operate on headcanon to fullfill your cuck fantasies and not the actual canon story that you could read.
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>>273314055
Cuck fantasies only work if you care about the character/person in question. She's not my waifu so I couldn't care less how much of a whore she is. Sounds like YOU really care though for some reason. Not that I'm judging, you'd hardly be the first to waifu a slut and then white knight for her.
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>>273314147
I care for mushoku's story yeah, which is why I'm in this thread.
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>>273314055
lol he didn't say she cucked him, only that she might've been tempted to cheat given her past, but okay I guess
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>>273314211
This isn't the 3D world. Sluts can be loyal and redeemed. Her choosing you after 30,000+ just proves how important and special you are to her. Stop thinking of her as the average whore from your family.
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>>273300575
If they do it right they easily have AOTY. I'm looking forward to the 3some outrage on twitter lol
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>>273310877
The dabs of red eyeshadow does it for me
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cant wait for these bottom feeders to cuckpost luke and eris next season
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>>273313984
It's a fucking fantasy world that can have ideal outcomes. Why do you faggots have to shit on positive outcomes for characters, picking them apart instead of just being happy?
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>>273314491
Because they're pretentious retards.
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>>273314349
it do be timeline NTR if you think about it
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>>273314491
I wasn't shitting on anything. I made a single comment, and I never said she cheated, only that the temptation had to be there given she spent her life fucking anything with a pulse. I made a reasonable observation given the character. There's no need to get emotional over it.
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>>273314491
>just be happy
fuck you buddy, it's my god given right to be a miserable asshole
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>>273308964
LN12 newfriend, this happened in the anime too so you should be able to locate the chapter.
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>>273314572
Roxy? ETERNAL virgin without dudy
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>>273314757
You don't know that. All Orsted said was she didn't marry but she might have gone full Elinalise anyway.
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>>273298914
>>273300838
This makes sense, in two or three years he'll be free from Redundancy LN, anime S3 and Orc Eroica (hopefully.)
My headcanon is that Rifujin started writting Orc Eroica as practice to write the not-MT-sequel with a new MC, he needs to get rid of the possible old habits he developed after writting only about rudy for years.
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>>273314933
All three should have died or never been born to be quite desu
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You can only have one. Who do you choose?
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>>273314933
At most she flicked beans with sylphie
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>>273315046
Linia ofc how is this even a question? Btw Rudy is a colossal faggot for not fucking her
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>>273315025
It's all different people anyway. Nobody considers Oldeus and Newdeus the same person and the same thing applies to the heroines.
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>>273308594
not related, but I love how in Redundancy iirc Orsted admits that he gets a bit scared when Rudeus gets angry when something happens to his family, make me imagine that in that scene from vol 15 when he bites his shoe to cast allahu akbar magic Orsted kicked him out of fear.
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>>273309187
Paul is absolutely based off Rance yes
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>>273309276
>I think I can probably create a "better" fantasy series than Berserk or MiA or MT if I try, but I still won't stop fanboying over what I like
Then try
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>>273310099
I'm pretty sure he did say that, but I'm not sure how else to interpret that tweet other than him changing his mind.
We might get it by the time Oblige and ODT get LN adaptations
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>>273311078
>Rudeus likes tight young cute virgins
>this makes him a faggot somehow
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>>273313035
You mean where Rudy gets his arms chopped off?
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>>273314572
Yeah, for Luke
He literally got cucked out of his soulmate and got to fuck Ariel once as a consolation
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>>273314933
Her and Sylphie were lesbos
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>>273315046
The dog
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>>273315974
ariel is into some freaky shit i'd take her over eris t b h f a m
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>>273310226
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>>273289466
Adding "this" to the beginning of a reply is the most obvious sign of a retarded NPC trying to reap other people's thoughts as it was his own.
KYS reddit nigger
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>>273316104
Bitch ain't loyal though.
You know full well that tubroslut has a hidden harem of dudes she treats like trash and summons every month or so to run a train on her.
And it's going to be the most vile shit possible. Golden shower would be entry level, just a prelude before a goddamn parade of degeneracy she subjects those men to.
And you don't get to cuddle afterwards cause she's busy.
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>>273316382
just admit that you have a NTR fetish and can't stop thinking about women being degenerate and participating in gangbangs
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>>273316382
>You know full well that tubroslut has a hidden harem of dudes she treats like trash and summons every month or so to run a train on her.
She actually has an open harem and several children through it, with one of them being Luke's child, heavily implied to be Edward.
With it being outright said that she doesn't marry (or as is done by traditional Asurans, take anybody as a husband) to ensure she doesn't have to share power with anybody.
Nobody knows who the father is for four of the five children.
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>>273316104
But he didn't 'get' Ariel. She has kids from a bunch of different men, one of which happens to be his
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>>273316244
Or you might just be too Low IQ.
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>>273316344
>gets angry when someone calls out the woke moralist mob
>ad hominem and mentions reddit
kys and gtfo from this thread tourist, you're not fooling anyone
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>>273315689
That was great. Him fearing that one day he would end up burried deep underground was pretty funny because Rudeus could do that Orsted would be stuck there until he resets.
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>>273316956
the deathcult absolutely hates the idea of people forming families and having children. the entire political purpose of the lgbt movement is designed to normalize childlessness. western birthrates are below replacement level not because 'rich people in first world countries prefer to have less kids' but because our entire society has been slowly but intentionally propped up to discourage reproduction.

people think sex is for enjoyment, for fun, for recreation. Both the state run school and the popular culture constantly reinforce this by implying that sex is about 'love' or 'enjoyment' when in reality its suppose to be about reproduction. You are taught from an early age that you should always 'use protection' as if a baby was some kind of illness or disease and if you some how 'have an accident' and make a new life, you are suppose to instantly consider killing it.

If MT was about some loser reincarnating into a fantasy world and just having a harem with 3 chicks, nobody would give a fuck. But Rudeus dares to be a responsible loving husband and father and actually raises his kids, story doesn't just end there we actually see how the children grow up and how they turn out.
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>>273315046
kot
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>>273263951
Girls can't have harem, anon. That's no allowed.
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>>273310877
>>273311300
>>offscreen death
No even a novel illust?
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>>273316694
Compared to who? Sorry, i judge myself in a vacuum and just decided that i'm the smartest man alive.
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>>273317953
Nope. Just a mention by Alphonse, who was told by Ghislaine.
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>>273311201
>Erirs' personality changing on a dime hurts
Umm, she fucking grew up, retard. Also she's practically the fucking same
>UNGA BUNGA SWORD
>I RABU RUDEUS!! HE'S AMAZING
>GHISLAINE!
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>>273315046
why does Linia have bigger tits?
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>>273318123
Eris has the best reasoning for allowing the harem to continue too.
>"Would be cool if i were the only wife."
>"But then i'd have to cook and shit, nah."
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>>273318212
time to post ancient memes, btw it's been exactly 10 years ago that people started posting about MT on 4chan, I think it really was in 2014 or something
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>>273315046
Dog is way superior.
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>>273317854
Ariel has a all you can eat cock buffet.
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>>273308423
He tries to get """creative""" and Orsted WILL "lol no" him. He needed *effective* magic not "creative" magic.
The Magic Armor is creative enough alone. Wtf that thing is creative as fuck, what are you on about?
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>>273318799
This
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>>273315046
Dog likes getting pet by Eris and Cat doesn't. Dog pussy every day of the fucking week. Linia a shit.
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>>273315046
>>273318799
>heart tells me dog
>but my dick tells me cat
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>>273319609
I laughed out loud when he managed to get quagmire through disturb magic and it was narrated like he managed to achieve a miracle HOWEVER immediately after that Orsted simply solidified the quagmire with earth magic and that was that kek
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>>273320940
oh and btw that guy is a shitposter who tried to bump the thread I haven't heard anyone criticize orsted vs rudeus rematch ever in these threads it was pure undiluted unironic peak.
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For me its Alek(after getting manhandled by Orsted)>Jino
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>>273314733
Anime really is so inferior
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it's ogre.god.
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>>273322587
Speaking of, it really bothers me that Rudeus spoke to him in Human tongue rather than Demon God during the negotiations. What the hell was up with that?
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>>273322720
Those who surrender show deferrence by speaking in the tongue of the victorious.
No need to be overtly polite.
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>>273316956
Good job not even trying to argue back against the actual point of my comment dumbass, keep deflecting tho its funny and we can all still see your reddit indoctrination in full display.
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>>273323807
this. good job anon you owned him



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