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>villain is evil because... he's evil
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It's amazing that Togashi was so successful when everything he wrote that wasn't lifted directly from Dragon Ball or JoJo was trash
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He just wants to create the ultimate life form.
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>>283724960
Pic not related?
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>>283725016
>from Dragon Ball or JoJo
he also lifted the dark continent from Toriko
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Isn't this guy a pretty accurate representation of a certain type of gamer?
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>>283724960
is he on the boat?
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>>283724960
Just like real life.
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>Villain has sidekicks with perfectly generic designs that serve no purpose besides giving the side characters something to do
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>>283725103
dark shartinent just feels like demon world from yuyu THOUGH
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>Villain must have a sobby backstory or my brain can't comprehend his behavior
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>>283725118
Yeah I've seen this face around my gamerbros irl
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>>283724960
>nooo your villain has to have some sort of early abuse or trauma so that you can relate to him and argue he is even justified in his actions
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Villain is evil because there's a fuckton of money riding on the outcome of the game and he wants it.
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>One of the cards lets you reverse the effects of old age.

How was everyone on earth not trying to win this game?
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>>283724960
>villain is evil because... he's evil (and it's amusing)
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>>283724960
Bomber filters so many people it's hilarious.
The dude is just playing the game how it was intended. If the game masters didn't want people dying in this game then they would have implemented measures against that, other than simply restocking the cards they held on their binders. In a multi-player game some people will be pacific gatherers, others adventurers, others raiders, and other PKers. Bomber isn't fuckin evil, he's just playing the game.
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>>283725946
Not many people have STRONG NEN
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>>283724960
>villain is evil because he's a metagaming tryhard
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>>283725946
Because
1. The game itself was mythical. There was one printing of it, and copies sell for tens of millions at the very minimum
2. You need Nen to play it. Info on Nen is highly controlled and people who can use it outside the Hunter Association are rare.
3. There was only a rumor about what happens when you win the game, and that rumor is highly secretive and controlled. Only Mr. Battara's most experienced Hunters knew that he wanted a card from the game, and not even which card nor why he wanted one. To everyone else he was just gonna pay out a fortune for beating it and nobody needed to know more.
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>>283725946
Most people don't even know nen exist, which is....kinda retarded given all the terrorists and hunters and stuff.
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>>283725986
The game masters encouraged PVP through the card system they implemented, not through actually killing other people. Blame Ging for not debugging and updating his game to realize where exploits were that facilitated playerkilling as a legit strategy that turned his fun game into a nightmare.
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>>283725946
Because Togashi wanted to write a video game isekai arc and he didn't care about how little sense it made
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>>283725986
he killed people outside the game too
also just because the game allows killing doesn't mean you're not an evil psychopath for murdering people without a care in the world
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>villain is evil because... he has a tragic backstory
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>>283725827
the
>extended world beyond the known world
is straight from Toriko
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>No don't kill him, let him go
>But why?
>Goku did it so I have to do it too
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>>283726113
ok
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>>283726113
Is there any sign of that in fiction before anime?
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>>283726100
>also just because the game allows killing doesn't mean you're not an evil psychopath for murdering people without a care in the world

this nigga a beta bitch simp LMFAO
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>>283726113
>>283726147
Oh god Toriko is that shitty food manga why did I even reply to this fag
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>>283725946
There's too many good cards to choose from
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>>283726172
>Oh god Toriko is that shitty food manga
Holy unfathomably shit taste
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>>283726147
"world beyond the known world" is cliche which is why Togashi drew that childrens doodle
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it's crazy how HxH is one of the few anime with such drastic and inanse quality spikes that you can safely ignore like half of it straight up. I've never seen anime like that it's either consistently good or bad.
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>>283726378
That's because HxH is a collection of assorted Togashi's thoughts over literal decades, barely stitched together into a single story. Some of them are shit and low quality, others deserve their own story instead.
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>>283726378
>it's either consistently good or bad.
I think it just feels run of the mill until it often unexpectedly takes a turn into a real tense situation and follows through with the execution very well
You can probably count the "bad moments" with just your 10 fingers
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>>283727652
I can count how many bad arcs there are. I mean boring naruto filler type stuff like Arena arc, card game island, etc.
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>>283724960
>Villian is an online griefer
Based?
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>>283724960
Duke Nukem is not a villain.
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>>283727751
Those aren't really feature length arcs and are more stepping stone arcs, Greed Island is more an inbetween where it's both a stepping stone and feature length
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>>283725946
if you are good enough at nen to win greed island you can easily create your own nen ability to slow aging.
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>>283724960
>You can murder people legally
>You're too strong for anyone to stop you
>You'll be awarded absurd amounts of money if you kill the right people
Why did Genthru do it? This manga is too complex.
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>Villain would you rather die then be captured to "pay for their sins"
Name a more kino trope
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>>283728077
I'm curious why more people don't do this it seems like the smartest move. Slowing ageing is probably enhancement or maybe transmutation it can't be that difficult since nen already slows it down by default.
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>>283728256
Preoccupied putting their aura towards other things
In HxH we really don't see that many old aged nen users to begin with
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>>283725855
Eh, no. It doesn't have to be a sobby backstory, just any explanation for his actions: he's doing it for money/immortality, believes in eugenics, has a selfish drive to be the best/have that one special item, doesn't care how many are sacrificed as long as his Grand Project for Daddy's Approval/the Betterment of Mankind/His Wallet succeeds etc.
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>>283728081
Learn to English, ESL.
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>>283724960
>villain is evil because... he's a gamer
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>villain is evil because... he's a gay pedophile serial killer clown
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>>283728664
Truly.
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>>283728707
>Hisoka is gay
This is a cope
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>>283729515
Sorry, pansexual pedophile serial killer clown.
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>>283724960
IMO he is overhated. I like him. He has a good relationship with his generic goons friends. I don't need to know his greater goals. He is calculated and ruthless. Blame the game not the player.
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>>283725855
yes and this greed island guy is doing it to win greed island and get the power and money and whatever that comes with that, i don't think that was unclear
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>>283728256
i believe plenty of people do that and we just don't know about it because to further expand their lifespan they don't go to the dark continent/heaven arena and just meditate under a waterfall or whatever
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>>283724960
That faggot trio is the worst thing in the entire show, by far.
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>>283725016
he also lifted shit from Yu-Gi-Oh like this arc
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>>283730348
Seems like Togashi didn't try that hard to make them interesting, the 2 sidekicks I mean, but I feel like that's kind of the point. Genthru himself is fine and he works well within the framework of the arc but really the 2 guys sub and bara don't feel much different or better/worse than fodder from the hunter exam or those other 3 guys from Heaven arena. Their biggest problem was that they could not match the aura of the antagonists from the previous arc, a tough act to follow indeed.
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>>283724960
He is literally just Weevil x Kira Yoshikage mixed together
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>>283730468
He's also Karasu from Yu Yu Hakusho who I believe was introduced as a character before Kira or Weevil. Araki had good things to say about the characters of Yu Yu Hakusho
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>>283730534
You joke but the VR stuff and the island setting are just Duelist Kingdom x Noah's filler arc. At the point of Greed Island Yu-Gi-Oh was at its peak popularity worldwide.
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Can Togashit come up with something original for once? The biggest meme was hyping just a shitty Yu-Gi-Oh /Cell ripoff manga.
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>>283730647
he is ripping off JoJo and AOT right now
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>>283728256
There are probably more Kurapika-types (use nen ability that abuses their body and burns lifespan) than Biscuit-types (use nen ability that slows aging and nurtures their body)
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>>283730423
Togashi has been wanting to make a card game series since the time of YuYu Hakusho before Yugioh even was about card games.
He's said he wanted to do one after HxH was over but his health went to shit.
In 2017 he did a short two chapter series with a different artist called Akuten Wars.
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>>283726022
all of this is BULLSHIT:
Hunterfags are the msot pretentious idiots. Anyone can learn nen in a year. Getting attacked by nen activates it. AND Heavens arena literally shows Nen fights on TV:

99% of HxH is just story-convenience. Greed Island is broken. But thats ok, cuz the manga is fun.
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the protagonist is good....because he's good
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>>283730559
Yu Yu Hakusho also had "Instead a video game" segment tbf but it wasn't really a fully fleshed out thing, if anything that portion of Yu Yu is more comparable to the battle against Razor
I wasn't really joking either as both Karasu and Kira are just guys with bomb abilities
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>>283730667
should have done this instead of HxH if true
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>>283730698
I will throw you a bone. Yugi is heavely inspired by Kurama and Hiei, he is even voiced by Kurama VA in the toei anime, who also voiced Shinji. YuGiOh had that bishonen energy in it from YYH.
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>>283730423
wrong arc
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2 kino arcs of villains being evil because they like being evil

followed by the giga gay arc of ant king philosophizing about why he is evil
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>>283730647
>rips himself off
what a hack
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>>283730741
That was just Devilman LIGHT
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>>283730748
Meruem isn't evil he's an abomination with the instincts of an ant but the brain and emotions of a human.
He has no fucking idea what he is, it's like those people who raise Chimps as their kids and then the Chimp wants to drive a car and go walk outside with a leash.
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>>283730676
>getting attacked by nen activates it
Why didn't these guys become nen users
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>>283730758
what the fuck

I also noticed that the now forgotten Rave Master literally begins (beat for beat) with the same setup of HxH... but I think Mashima ripped Togashi here off, they are like months apart by release.
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>>283724960
Some people are just massive assholes, it's not that ridiculous of a concept
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>>283730806
Rave was so much better than HxH its insane.
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>>283724960
Those are the best kind
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Jesus. This same type of thread with the same type of posts I’ve seen multiple times over the past decade +. Yea, I need to get off this site.
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>>283730806
The entire industry is like this, we call it inspiration
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Harley Quinn x Joker ripoff
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>>283730676
The issue is that Togashi switched Genres three times and the series has went on for nearly 30 years so technology has aged.
It went from A wacky world ripe for exploration to a more grounded but still goofy anlouge with hints of politics and governing powers to full on modern technology broadcasting nen battles across the world plus all of a sudden every government is highly competent and complex with nuclear weapons and history yet don't know Nen exists.
It's almost like Haki in one piece except instead of fucking up the power scaling it fucks up the words consistency.
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>>283730667
>since the time of YuYu Hakusho before Yugioh even was about card games.
Not true, Yu-Gi-Oh was a planned multimedia franchise from the start of the 90s (91 to be exact), they strategically made Takahashi to wait before launching it right after DB ended etc.
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>>283730955
>Head cannon
The card game only because popular because kids sent in hundreds of letters asking for more of it.
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>villain is evil because... he's narcissistic.
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>>283730976
That is actually the meme... in reality it was a planned multimedia franchise since day one, they made video games even before the first anime launched or the manga was in its s0 portion. It is insane how much misinformation there is about this franchise in particular in internet spheres.

It was about multiple planned games but only the TCG ended up sticking or getting fully developed.
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>>283725946
Cant believe togashi get away with "Nen can do that?" And is praised by the "complex power system" while other shows always have someone to complain
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>>283725976
doing it for the love of the game
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>>283730785
And what? You'd rather that he turn her into a sex slave instead?
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>>283730874
Meh. The quality of a thread is directly correlated to the OP, this thread doesn’t reflect on the board.

>>283730988
What character is this?
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Speaking of Greed Island, I'm surprised I don't see more people catch on to the fact Gon was the result of Ging beta testing the Pregnancy Stone card and thus has no real mother. His strong resemblance to Fugetsu makes me wonder if she's also a fake kid that was inserted into the womb with her sister by Beyond.
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>>283731193
> fact Gon was the result of Ging beta testing the Pregnancy Stone card and thus has no real mother
No, you’re just a newfag (not saying it as an insult). This has been a common theory for decades now and at one point was posted by someone every other general.
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>>283731193
Post the original
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>>283731183
>What character is this?
Mushoku Tensei I figure
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>>283731193
Gon is a real boy just like Astro Boy
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>>283730790
They were too busy becoming dead users.
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>>283731183
>What character is this?
The Mosaic man.
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>>283730976
Why are we even comparing Greed Island to Yugioh
The actual card game aspect of Greed Island is practically irrelevant to the story and it's just a backdrop to a nen training simulator. Going inside a video game isn't exactly original either and neither are card games. Plus the cards of Yugioh and Greed Island have extremely different functions, at best the 2 series are slightly relatable.
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>>283731193
Ging is a real piece of shit if this true
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When you think about , half of Hunter x Hunter is just training arcs. Most of greed island is training. Hevanes arena is training. A third of chimera ant arc is training.
That’s probably why I hate all the parts of those arcs
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>>283731319
I know Greed Island is more so inspired by Dragon Quest, but Togashi clearly took from toyetic anime for the tone of that arc. Yu-Gi-Oh, Digimon, Pokemon... you see stuff from all 3 in there.
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>>283724960
This arc was stupid not because of the character writing but because the premise itself was stupid. Vidya isekai does not build on prior arcs at all (besides them getting the designated plot device at the very end of Yorknew), it's completely out of left field, and it adds nothing to the story
HxH in general has zero identity, it's just a mishmash of tropes and genres. YYH was the same but at least it had sovl
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>>283731217
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>>283724960
Genthru was never supposed to be complicated, but some people pretend he is to force him in the same box as Hisoka, Chrollo, Meruem, Pariston, Beyond, and Tserriednich.
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>>283731364
Yeah oh well it appears that Togashi likes a variety of games and wanted to include some aspects of those games into an arc for his series. I hear Ging himself is probably inspired by a DQ5 character but I've never played a DQ game, Final Fantasy was bigger in the states
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>>283731411
>sovl
Retard spotted
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>>283731358
I'm probably an outlier that liked learning more about the intricacies of the nen system during Greed Island and how to apply all the different aura functions to actual combat, the problem is you really don't see all too much melee combat in the series afterwards outside of some grunt/squad leader chimera ant fights but the royal guard and meruem powercreep the shit out of those things on Greed Island. I can appreciate that all that stuff was explained as you don't see that often in shonen where characters are tanky punch sponges who don't have to worry about guarding their ribcage with aura
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>>283731686
Imo Hevanes arena (in the manga) is at least short enough to not care. Greed island is missed potential though. Bisky removes any tension that could be had because she’s clearly very strong. The allure of being in a relationship life game loses fun fast when it’s just a generic island and they immediately go to train. It peaks high in the dodgeball match though.
And the weakest part of the chimera ant arc is post kite death - place invasion . Not saying it’s bad, but it’s a 7.5/10 section in an otherwise 10/10 arc.
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>>283730676
>Getting attacked by nen activates it
Also makes you a cripple or kills you 99% of the time
Plus without a teacher will end up a shitter like the trio who kidnapped Zushi, and even a genius like Kastro ended up specializing in a bad category for him due to lack of knowledge
>Heavens arena literally shows Nen fights on TV
To non Nen users it just looks like superpowers or invisible abilities
None of the spectators can see Hisoka's bungee gum and they have no reason to believe anyone can learn it instead of it being something unique to these people
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>>283726378
It's never bad, all of the arcs are enjoyable imo.
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>>283724960
Yeah, some people are scumbags by sheer disposition. This is the kind of villain whose significance lies not in his character but rather in the system that enabled someone like that to prevail. Greed Island didn't create him, it selected for him.
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>>283731814
Yeah Greed Island isn't exactly a climactic arc, I really do like a handful of the things it does but it does feel lacking compared to the 2 arcs that it's sandwiched between
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>>283732580
Greed island almost feels purposefully lower effort. Like Togashi wanted to take a mental break from interesting plotting and character writing depth.

The side characters in greed island make succession war side characters look like fucking greatest of all time.
Genthru somehow lacks as much interest or depth even if you accept he’s just a put evil troll. He’s fun, but not fun enough to be all time. Tserrienich is pure evil and is more fun than Genthru in like half the time.
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>>283731814
>>283732580
>>283732731
Holy tastelets
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>Greed Island rips off Yugioh
>Dark Continent rips off Toriko
>Phantom Troupe rips off Saint Seiya
>power system is complex but you can be able the equivalent of a gmodder in this setting for no reason at all
>Killua is unaware of the televised fights in Heaven’s Arena along with nen just because
>half the anime of Hunter x Hunter is training arcs, a switch up from half the arcs in Yu Yu Hakusho being battle tournaments
Bravo, Togashi
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Taste this
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>>283732731
My 2 biggest gripes with Greed Island both revolve around the very ending of the arc, first with Battera's GF conveniently passing away just in time for Gons team to clear the game and be able to snatch the 3 rewarded cards that are necessary to move into the next arc.
2nd is Breath of Angel being a little underwhelming even though it's not the first time a limb has been healed through nen magic (it's the first time an entire limb was created out of thin air)
The game also didn't feel very adventurous, at least what we got to see of it, but that's fine given the context of it being a real world island and not an actual game - the human element of it is pretty neat but it's no .hack, you know?
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Also I'm convinced Ging and Beyond teamed up to kill Battera's GF when they find out the game is about to be cleared and clearing the game is also the go signal to release the chimera ant queen
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>>283733917
>Get it?
no...
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>villain is evil because YEEEEEEEEE!
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>greedy guy comes to greed island because he is greedy and that's bad o algo
How many times have we got this retard OP over the years?
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>>283734100
PvP server!!!
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>>283734100
The own anime/manga debunks this.
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>>283734100
Kys killua poster
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Genthru wouldn't be as hated if he looked like this.
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>>283726200
i'm too lazy to google-lens this shit.
I can read some of "if you watch this sleeping girl... then 24h... something something".
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New volume when
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>>283733917
Is that the other end of the Abyss?
Will Riko and Reg gonna come out of there?
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>>283733744
Nakadashi the Kachou
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>>283734202
His hand thing is cool
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>>283724960
He was completely and totally loyal to his henchmen.

I don't view him as evil, or at any rate, he's no more "evil" than Killua. Killua is only loyal to the people he cares about and doesn't think twice about wasting anybody else who gets in his way.

Genthru just happened to be an antagonist to the protagonists. That doesn't make him evil, and neither does killing people who he doesn't care about.

If only caring about people you care about and not caring about anybody else was enough to make somebody evil, that would mean 90% of people or more are technically evil, because at least 90% of people have no problem short-changing a total stranger to benefit themselves or their friends.
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>>283724960
What else would you expect from The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight?
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>>283726285
anime that actually do this trope well?
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>>283735425
>Killua is only loyal to the people he cares about and doesn't think twice about wasting anybody else who gets in his way
I kind of forget that Killua spells that out right there, Bisky was super OK with the idea of killing Binolt so it seems a little off that she was ok with letting Genthru walk away, but I can see her wanting to spare Gon in that situation of not slaying someone who's already captured and defeated. Still they just let them their tied up on the floor to die
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>>283735407
Machi chapter soon (2 years)
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>>283730676
>Anyone can learn nen in a year.
It might take a whole year just to open the nodes in your eyes.
>Getting attacked by nen activates it.
And it has an incredibly high chance of crippling or even killing someone unless the ability is very passive.
>AND Heavens arena literally shows Nen fights on TV:
They do not. The TV screens you see are Close Circuit televisions as proof in the aftermath of the Chrollo v Hisoka fight. The news makes no mention of the suicide clones, just what would be obvious from the outside of the arena. Even then, because of how superhuman feats aren't alien to the HxH world, normies won't automatically assume magic is involved and more likely someone is just really skilled in spinning tops.
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>>283724960
Midwits will cry about HxH overexplaining things, and then completely overlook Genthru's tragic backstory because it's only told through context clues.
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>>283725946
You don't need to win just get the card in game and use it.
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>>283724960
But those are the most fun
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>>283731814
>>283731358

G.I. is a setup + training arc coupled with a bit of world building.

>We got G.I. itself being a real place and not a virtual nen space
>We get foreshadowing regarding nen exorcism as a YorkShin/PT follow up
>Nen techniques explained in detail since the whole island was prepared for training nen.
>Introduces Bisky and setups the Kaito encounter

Gentrhu is just the final antagonist in G.I. to up the stakes and Bisky true form is a surprise for the readers
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>>283730728
Yugi is literally just Koichi
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The worst part of Greed Islands is that it makes all of the low level hunters complete chumps. It really undermines the whole exam arc and the whole premise of the series. Compare it to the Succession Arc where the random hunters like Bill and Belerainte are perfectly competent even when they're out of their depth.
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>>283736889
>villain who's evil just because he's evil eventually joins the heroes
These are the most famous
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>>283724960
>op is retarded.... because he's retarded
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>>283724960
Yeah some people are evil for no reason, they love to inflict pain on others because it feels good to them not because of some redditor told them they need le realistic motivations and shit.
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>>283737151
I like it because it highlights that a nen user with a battle-type nen ability and extreme willingness to murder is extremely dangerous. Especially compared to normal nen-users who use utility abilities and are only willing to kill in certain scenarios.

(and Bill is only alive because he and the queen work for Beyond)
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>>283724960
Yea thats the whole point of villain?
Whats your point?
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>>283725976
Onore...
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>>283725118
this
i always liked him because not every villain needs to be some sympathetic or deep story, some people are just crazy psychos
and genthru had an actual motivation for acting like an mmo troll
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>>283724960
Is it that hard to accept that there are just some evil Jackasses out there?
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Genthru was the "Player Killer" archetype. Besides, I always felt like Razor was the real "final boss" of Greed Island, after they dealt with him, it just felt like a matter of time when they'd take down Genthru and clear the game. I remember getting pretty invested into that volleyball game.
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>>283734100
love yourself killua poster
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>>283738572
What volleyball game? You mean the dodgeball game?
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>>283737455
>Bill is only alive because he and the queen work for Beyond
What
Oito does not work for Beyond, are you insane? Bill does work for Beyond, but he wasn't given the details of the Succession War, only Oito and Kurapika knew that, and neither knew Nen Beasts would be involved. Bill is still alive in part by skill, in part by luck. He wasn't attacked by a Guardian Spirit Beast or Silent Majority, and he has Reinforcement-type Nen so he can't really be gunned down.
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>>283724960
Boring ass IT villain
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>>283724960
He was just a sociopath, why does he need to be more? There are plenty of people like him who are also mass murderers, and they did it for no reason other than because it's their nature.
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>>283726147
No, impossible. Only the manga which I like didn't copy ANYTHING. The ones that I dislike? Well, those copied EVERYTHING.
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>>283728256
>I'm curious why more people don't do this

Slowing your own aging seems like it would incur a huge cost it i.e would require insane conditions / wagers.

My headcanon is that all of the Greed Island cards only work because their scope is limited to players of the game Greed Island who all know what's at stake and are on board. They really believe in Greed Island.

If a nen user wakes up one day and says "OK I'm going to create a nen object that teleports the holder directly to another person of their choosing" then the metaphorical 'god of Nen' says yeah OK sure you can do that but for every mile the person travels they lose a year of their life. Or yeah you can do that but only if it's confined within a pretend video game where people's lives are at stake and they have to compete for it.

I wouldn't be surprised if a condition for the entirety of Greed Island working is "if Gon and his friend don't win this game then they just fucking die, my son and his friend die how about that huh?".
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>>283734221

She will sleep in your place for 24 hours and you can stay awake without tiring for the duration.
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>>283740271

You can slow your aging a lot just by using Ten, since it stops aura leaking away. That's why Netero is like 110 years old.
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>>283740354
Being at Netero's level of nen mastery is quite a high barrier to entry, speaking to the original poster's question of why people don't do this.
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>>283740370

Stopping aura leakage with Ten is one of the first things nen users learn, reread the first training arc with Wing.
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>>283724960
The weak justification for healing genthru being that "killua probably killed more people so whatever" as if killua wasn't shown trying to avoid killing after the hunter exam was the only thing I didn't like about greed island
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>>283724960
>villain is evil because... he got involved with other evil people and lucked into a position where he could gain wealth and power by hurting others, so he liked it and let it corrupt him and now he couldn't quit even if he wanted to
Why do we never see this kind of villains? Y'know, the actually realistic kind?
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>>283725016
I can't even think of one thing that makes hunter x hunter good be present in any of these.
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>>283740771
Gon just doesn't give much of a shit about strangers being killed. It's just doggy dog world unless it's a personal connection who was killed and then it's an unforgivable sin.
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>mobs: hmm what are we gonna do about this uuuhhhhh there's a non-zero chance that we d-
>genthru: fuck it we roll
He's based
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>>283741341
this
hxh was never really moralfaggy, and like 10 different characters say about gon before he snaps "HMMM THIS KID IS KINDA CRAZY, NOT MUCH MORALITY GOING ON HERE" just to remind the audience of that
the main one i remember doing this is zepile
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>>283724960
Half the arcs in this show were unwatchably bad
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>>283738572
>volleyball game
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>>283737151
>it makes all of the low level hunters complete chumps
I thought most of the island's population were still non-licensed hunters? The few confirmed pro hunters on the island were always framed as being above everyone like Tserzguerra's team, the Bellam Brothers, and even Goreinu was doing great on his own.

>Compare it to the Succession Arc
It is a point that prolonged participation in the usual GI card meta eroded a lot of nen users overall skill. Being too reliant on spell cards is why Genthru's lethality really broke the meta.
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i've rewatched hxh like 4 times and each time i enjoy greed island more. To the point that i think it's better than heavens arena desu. The real problem with that arc is that the villains are not threatening and there's no sense of danger. Also, Killua just insta completing the hunter exam is one of the laziest things in the series
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>>283724960
>Character and his friends are assholes to everybody but each other
I cant think of anything more relatable to normalfags.
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>>283741639
>Also, Killua just insta completing the hunter exam is one of the laziest things in the series
To be honest, if someone like Hisoka or Illumi had obviously styled on the other participants from the beginning Netero would have probably passed them on the spot as well. Anyone already knowing nen should easily clear the exam so I get why Togashi didn't feel the need to pretend Killua needed to spend half a month going through the formalities when he already almost passed the first time.
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>>283741709
If Netero had wanted that he would have held a tournament from the start. The point of the hunter exam is to test the participants skills in many areas, that's why there's a cooking exam
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>>283741778
First of all, the exams by Netero don't necessarily test a variety of categories like cooking. It was revealed to be an unfair exam and the solution was to create a simple boiled egg and the only barrier of entry was jumping into a gorge. Turned it from a cooking skill challenge to a test of courage and strength.

Most of the exam was purely physical tests with only the Trick tower being the intellectual side. Maybe the pre-exam filters like the old woman with the wife/girlfriend question counts as intellectual but she's not a guaranteed encounter as people make it to the exam site. Killua just got a ride with those magical creature Gon and the others met.

The point is he had already reached the final part of his own exam and there's no real reason to have him run the whole thing again just to prove he's still qualified. And that years exam not having any other notable participants was already established because we're told some years nobody passes the exam and other years you get freak occurrences like Gon's where a bunch of people pass.
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>>283741859
this is copium. Why would they have any other exam other than a fighting tournament if Netero dindn't want to test everyone's particular stregths? Even the final exam was based on merit
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>>283741341
Sounds a lot like anon except anon will openly laugh and make fun of strangers dying
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>>283724960
That was mandatory in the U.S. under the Hayes Code.
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>>283724960
>Merciless villian begs for mercy
>MC heals villian to full and let's him go
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>>283735425
>Killua is only loyal to the people he cares about and doesn't think twice about wasting anybody else who gets in his way
Since the Hunter Exam ended Killua only kills people who try to kill him or his friends first, which is justified
>neither does killing people who he doesn't care about
Yes it does
>at least 90% of people have no problem short-changing a total stranger to benefit themselves or their friends
Most people wouldn't kill a stranger while laughing, nor commit mass murder
>He was completely and totally loyal to his henchmen.
Literally the same thing Gon got mad about with the troupe. He would be angry/sad if someone killed his friends, but can't spare that empathy for anyone else.
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>>283743509
>makes Kurapika spare Chrollo
>heals Genthru
>brainwashes Killua into not wanting to kill Illumi
>but absolutely annihilates a cute cat ant who could actually be redeemed unlike the three above
what did Gon mean by this?
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OVAchads rise up
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more like cringe x cringe
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>>283746189
Looks based to me
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>>283743509
>merciless villain begs for mercy
>MC heals him and beats him up again
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>>283744668
The whole point of Gon killing her was that he lost his innocence in doing so. This is also why he transforms into an adult to do it.
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>>283747089
Non-stop breeding sessions with Pitou
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Is it Togashi's fault that PKers are always portrayed as evil in MMO stories?
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>>283744668
>makes Kurapika spare Chrollo
He didn't want Kurapika to become as bad as Chrollo.
>heals Genthru
They had agreed to heal everyone regardless of the outcome of the fight because they were just fighting for themselves.
>brainwashes Killua into not wanting to kill Illumi
He never did this.
>but absolutely annihilates a cute cat ant who could actually be redeemed unlike the three above
He thought Kite's murder was wanton and proved Pitou evil. Then Pitou's later care for a human was incorrigible with his perception, blinded by rage. If Pitou said he was only healing her because the king ordered him to, Gon would understand.
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>>283741064
Persona 5 had villains like that. Except for the fat guy who was bullied as a kid.
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>>283742388
>Why would they have any other exam other than a fighting tournament if Netero dindn't want to test everyone's particular stregths?
I'm saying push came to shove and Netero will make a simpler and more combat centric exam as evidenced by how most of the exam we saw the full duration of were physical and stamina based. The few tests of intelligence came because of the proctor and not because of his oversight.

You do remember it's a plot point that Netero's exams are uneven and criticized by some high ranking figures within the association including Cheadle, the current chairwoman right? His exams were lopsided and also let in total psychos like Hisoka or people just using the license for other work like Illumi for no real benefit to the association.
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>>283724960
Just like real life.
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>villain is evil because she's cute
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>>283749713
Killua probably shouldn't have aimed directly for her abs but I can't really blame him
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>>283750197
It gets overlooked I think that she actually took a pretty hefty injury from that, seems like she can stitch her own injuries up pretty good and it's probably why she later confidently says "I won't be easy to kill" since she can likely heal up from injuries quickly that would be severe/potentially fatal injuries for a lot of nen users, yep my hunterwife is amazing
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>>283740310
Thank you anon.

>>283749713
>>283751544
I went to look at how the manga tells this same moment. The anime is much more stimulating, in all senses.
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>>283724960
>villain is evil because hes a virgin
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>>283728888
Truly we gaming
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>>283752016
I believe HxH was still weekly at that point for the most part, the animes did a good job with it
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>>283746587
>merciless villain begs for mercy
>MC forces him to live forever as a rock
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>>283749713
>feel up her abs
>then get hugged by her
my man killua is in
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>>283752016
Wow, Nobunaga actually did something
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>>283752725
The boys got touched all over by PT girls in that arc
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>>283752777
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>>283746189
Chrollo being cringe is a fundamental part of his character though
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>>283730691
I always tell people to skip most of the hunter exam until the fights, then watcht the spider arc, ten skip greed island and keep going from the chimera arc forward, also skip all the zoldyck family shit, so boring.
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>>283724960
with those shitty glasses? the because and anything afterwards is superfluous
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>>283730834
To be fair Mashima is red blooded heterosexual man while Togashi is a gay pedo homo, it was settled from the start.
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>>283731330
As if this was needed to deem him a piece of shit.

Ging is a horrible person in all ways possible, most of all being a fucking manlet.
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>>283746189
Reminder that in the raws he is saying "WE are so very fascinating" which isn't cringe at all.
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>>283747089
Pitou was so submissive and scared while she was dealing with Gon it was so fucking hot i even let out a bit of precum and im almost certain my gf realized it.
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>>283752016
yeah the voices in the manga suck
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>>283740271
If you make it your ability you've already sacrificed having basically any method of self-defense that's sort of a sacrifice already.
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>>283726083
Knowing at we know about Ging it was on propose and even if not he would find the exploits 'part of the game'
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>>283752745
The most dangerous spider.
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>>283752745
Don't look down on 2 m En
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Will togashi ever make a public appearance again?
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>>283752777
>>283752827
I'm jealous.....
>>283755513
Kek
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>>283752058
> Villain is evil because his pulse is 300 BPM
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>jobunaga
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>>283724960
The whole point of Greed Island is that it grants your wish, supposedly, and in a sense its true rewards are indeed incredibly powerful. What's wrong with people who are willing to murder for victory appearing on the island? This guy is literally just normal in this situation, and it's not like he's a psychopath serial killer. He only kills the other participants, or those who directly prevent him from getting ahead.
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>>283740271
Biscuit does it the best. She has an NPC summon that gives her ultra-luxury body care and super recovery. Getting this sort of care extends your life because you are objectively healthier. But it compounds in that she can sharpen her nen more than anyone else because she can train to the extrme without hurting herself because she has perfect recovery.

This starts a nen feedback loop, where her enhancement grows, and therefore her lifespan is enhanced, along with her abilities. Which leads to better training, which leads to stronger nen, ect, ect, ect

Zeno and Biscuit are both in their 60s, but Zeno looks like absolute shit while Biscuit looks like she is 30 at most.
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Not all villains have to be complex.
But they still need to have something going for them to not be poorly written.
But villains can still be poorly written even if they're supposed to be complex.
Complexity isn't inherently good or bad.
I am not going to give any examples, because chances are somebody will disagree with them, either because they genuinely think I'm wrong, or because they just want to argue about something.
If it's the latter, you can do that without me.

And there's a good chance at least one of my examples would be a "hot take" as they say. So it probably wouldn't be convincing.
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>>283757320
Simple villains are fine but Genthru really has nothing going for him at all. He doesn't have a real motivation, he doesn't contribute anything to the worldbuilding, he doesn't have a personal or thematic relationship with the hero and he doesn't even have a cool design. He's just a minor obstacle on Gon's journey from being slightly-above-average to being basically the same but punching harder.
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I like genthru better than the spiders. Spiders are only interesting when they're suffering. Genthru successfully tricked the cast and didn't overstay his welcome.
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>>283758605
Genthru's just the arc rival, he doesn't need a real motivation. Gary didn't have a real motivation either. The real problem with GI is that the guy overseeing the death game they're in, Razor, and the people who made the death game, didn't have any real motivation.
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>>283731067
There is no complaint about the cards because it's not a free lunch. Nen gets stronger with rules and conditions; well Greed Island is like thousands of rules and conditions all stacked on top of one another. You meet all the countless requirements, you get a few OP abilities in return. Totally fair.
Now, shit like Gon-san and Alluka are a different story.
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>>283759189
Not him, but it's still retarded because we don't know enough about the restrictions and limits on the game, and it did some extremely OP shit like reconstruct and heal Gon's arm which is just a tip of the iceberg of what it can do.
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>>283759432
>extremely OP shit like reconstruct and heal Gon's arm
Relatively simple example of healing by Conjuration, made stronger by one-time-use restriction.
Not even as impressive as Kastro's double, Kortopi's counterfeits, or Bono's transformation.
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>>283759568
>relatively simple
Nice headcanon bro.

Btw, if it's so simple, then why did someone like Pitou, who has dozen level higher nen reserves, than even the upper class of humanity's fighters, take an hour to heal Meruem's detached arm and Komugi's wound?
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>>283759568
>Kastro's double, Kortopi's counterfeits, or Bono's transformation.
And those are all temporary or require the user to activate just to appear anyways. Gon arm is permanent
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>>283759568
Wasn't half of the point of Greed Island that the rich guy wanted the healing card from it because there were no other healing powers like it?
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>>283730468
Why did nobody beat the daylights out of this shithead for destroying other people's expensive property?
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>>283725016
>>283724960
Togashi's work is just a spiteful, poorly-drawn and written edgier inverse of shonen like Dragon Ball (mostly) and JoJo and other stuff. His work is worthless and only has its status due to being parroted as the intellectual deconstructive piece in an infantile cliche genre for kids. Now, you could ask yourself when will these people grow the fuck up but the answer is never. Togashi is a degenerate, even for a mangaka, but he doesn't offset it by being talented or innovative. He just takes what others have created and originated and puts a "dark, edgy" and lame spin on them (which isn't even a spin, it's the tropes lifted but presented in an edgy fashion) which is about the worst kind of "Creator" (being generous here).
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>>283759432
Consider that the rewards of Greed Island are the collective effort of hundreds of nen users. If talented individuals can do amazing reality-breaking things with nen, then a collective large-scale undertaking like GI should produce nothing less than miracles.
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>>283759616
>take an hour to heal Meruem's detached arm and Komugi's wound?
Because Pitou is doing reconstructive surgery and is stated to have a poor attention span which hampers the speed of repairs. It got faster while operating on Komugi because she was in a different state of mind and nothing says she wouldn't have gotten to the point of rapid to near instant surgery given time.

Conjuring a replacement bodypart however, as I agree that's probably what archangel's breath does, is an instant action backed by 11 people and a ton of restrictions.



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