Why aren't Boku no Hero, Jujutsu Kaisen and Kimetsu no Yaiba considered the Big Three?They're popular and people instantly recognize them.
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>>284214663They've all finished.
>>284214663They ended with not a whimper, but a wet fart.
>>284214663BnHA is not respected by anyoneJJK ending was dogshitKnY is bigger than either of those.
>>284215150>BnHA is not respected by anyoneon cuck planet? yes
>>284214663all of em are shit and only retards with iq <65 likes them, except for kny. it's a bit decent
>>284215174i personally love the artstyle and character design but the writing is pretty basic
>>284214663MHA and JJK sells at a better rate than Bleach. And demon slayer outsold all 3 of the BIg 3.Boomers are just coping and seething.
No influence
>>284215347They aren't the big three because that's not what the big three means Naruto, Bleach, and One Piece had a very special place specifically at the time they were all running, and the context they existed in and the influence they have had because of it is unique and cannot be overstated. It's not about numbers.And if anything now or in the future becomes more influential, it still won't be the new big three, it will be whatever its own specific context makes it.
>>284214663I think KnY influenced the medium because now anime are investing more into moviesJjk has influenced the writing of other shonen, subtly, though itself got that influence from JojoMha never inspired anyone
>>284215457mha inspired high t men into following a better path
>>284214663The big 3 is a one time thing, its not a generational title. Theres not a new king of rock or pop every generation there's just Elvis and MJ. The big 3 were just 3 shounen from the same magazine and era which were super popular and all hit at least 70 volumes.
>>284215457MHA is too weird to inspire anyone. It's like One Piece but minus the Japanese humor and tone. In the future mangaka will call MHA one of their favorites or say Horikoshi inspired them to draw- but I doubt they say "MHA influenced me like Dragon Ball Influenced One Piece or Bleach did JJK."
>>284215471these “high t men” in question:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_Fa7iNJ2aA
>>284215525Im happy my old Yuji drawing isnt still floating around anymore...
>>284214663They are the third wave. Wave 1Fist of the north Star, Dragon Ball, JojoWave 2One Piece, Naruto, Bleach Wave 3My hero academia, Demon Slayer, Jujutsu KaisenKochikame and Slam Dunk can be added to make the "Hall of Heroes".
>>284215525>watching cuckerican dubbed animengmi, gaijin
>>284214663not the big anime during the turn of the millenium and during the formative years of the first generation of people learning to use the internet
>>284214663Their anime only overlapped once and only for a very short time. Kny: Hashira training arc (7 episodes) - May 8th 2024MHA season 7 (21 episodes) - May 4th 2024Compare that to OP, Naruto and Bleach which all overlapped for 10+ years.
>>284214663Because big 3 was a marketing stunt and not some kind of earned title.
>>284214663>superhero boom FotM>kimetsu shonen boom FotM>actually kimetsu
>>284215471If you inspect a sample of Izuku-chan's anus, you'll find Kacchan's sweet semen inside. That counts for high t, faggot.
>>284216042Both the csm & jjk movies had to ride off GODmetsu's coat-tails. Gege and Fujimoto better have a statue of tanjiro in their homes
>>284215638Jojo is actually on third wave.West didn't care this series until 2010s.Only part 3 was bit well known in west too but still small comparing to other big series like DB.
>>284214663Because they're all shit.
>>284216101>CSM Maybe yes.>JJKNah.JJK already had enough popularity which doesn't need to parasite on shadow of other series.
>>284215516The art definitely has influenced some mangaka. There was a oneshot or something a few years back that straight up traced multiple scenes a la Gene Simmons's kid. He's had a bunch of assistants over the years and they tend to adopt how he draws faces, but none of them have made it in Jump so far. MHA also was an obvious influence on a manga that ran in Sunday for a year before getting axed. It's not that Horikoshi hasn't inspired people, it's that they're all cursed with axes.
>>284216137...but enough about Dead Author Ball and Cuckserk
>>284216136JoJo only became mainstream in Japan within the last decade or so.Before that, the general public image was basically:“That weird manga where Jotaro and Dio scream ORA ORA at each other while punching, and for some reason otaku seem to like it.”It really had that kind of creepy, niche reputation.
>>284214663they lack the iconic characters
>>284214663nu-big 3
>>284214663Big Three was a phenomenon of its era, it's not something to inherit.
>>284214663Because they're not the three manga that are the Big Three.
>>284214663>post bubble memes
>>284215174Of course, this is the only place where they read it.
>>284215457>I think KnY influenced the medium because now anime are investing more into moviesThey've been doing that a decade or so prior to KnYs reception and the amount of anime movies haven't increased either>Jjk has influenced the writing of other shonen, subtly, though itself got that influence from JojoThis is a dumbest fucking shit I've read all day>Mha never inspired anyoneToho literally changed its business model for anime after MHA's meaning JJK and SpyxFamily wouldn't have gotten the level of quality adaptations if MHA didn't do well speaking of which Gege literally stated that the reason he wanted to go into Jump was because MHA was running in it at the time. There's also a slew of other mangaka influenced by Hori's design. KnY and JJK dont have nearly the spread of influence MHA had.
>>284214663>Why aren't Boku no Hero, Jujutsu Kaisen and Kimetsu no Yaiba considered the Big Three?All three of these titles did better than the original Big 3 in half the time frame
>>284215457>>284215516>Mha never inspired anyoneThis guy literally made a career riping off Hori's style
>>284214663Mostly because they weren't push together like the original big3 were.
>>284217862>This is a dumbest fucking shit I've read all daySeconded.
>One Piece, Naruto, BleachThe big three for men>MHA, JJK, KnYThe big three for women
>>284214663Because "big three" doesn't mean whatever are the most 3 popular anime at the time
>>284218371>One Piece, Bleach>for men
>>284217928>Kamen Rider>Hori’s styleGet over yourself, damnAt least pick shit that actually looks vaguelly similar, like Red Hood or Otr (for good reason). This style existed decades before Hori’s crap manga
>>284218531The artist literally did alt right comics in Hori's style before starting Kamen America and the heroine is just a ripoff of Mt Lady's design
>>284217862We literally have had an increase of canon movies and epileptic seizure fights thanks to Mugen Train and Tengen vs Gyutaro. Even MHA's fallen victim to it.
>>284219247Please.... Yes MHA movies are "Canon" but thier not like KnY,JJK and CSM type of Canon that you really need to watch for continuing the series.
>>284219358Im talking about MHA fight scenes now being fireworks shows compared to earlier seasons. Same with One Piece.
>>284215457MHA had the seasonal adaptation prior to the other 2.
>>284215457KnY single handedly moved the industry into making big budget canon movies. I can't think of anything BnHA has influenced
>>284214663Their time has come and gone. If there is a big 3, currently it's Chainsaw Man, Kagurabachi and One Piece STILL
The 2020s Big 3
>>284219865Honestly it's always been that way. Previously it was MHA, BC, and Stone but now its Kny, JJK, and CSMIt's crazy how much that movie redeemed CSM
>>284214663Runs were too shortKnY manga isn't that good and the anime's pacing is badBoku fucking sucks. No one wants to support a hero who is just gifted his powers
>>284218629your image is literally a joke parody of mha because Trump is heroic and Blonde and that's the jokeKamen America is a completely different artstyle that's been around since Saki Hiwatari. Mt Lady's design is a ripoff of every design made since the Super Sentai days. That hack Hori has never influenced anything original
>>284220054>Boku fucking sucks. No one wants to support a hero who is just gifted his powers>CHOSEN PIECE>UZUMAKI NEPOBABY>pic related
>>284218629>Kamen America and the heroine is just a ripoff of Mt Lady's designSource: your thoroughly raped ass
>>284218371This. All of them are fujotrash.
>>284218371/thread
>>284218371Fuck off faggot. Replace gay piece with dbz
>>284215428>And if anything now or in the future becomes more influential, it still won't be the new big three, it will be whatever its own specific context makes it.Not quite, since there was an earlier Big Three in Dragonball, Slam Dunk and Yu Yu Hakusho.
>>284219247>We literally have had an increase of canon moviesThere was only two canon movies released this year and only one interesting previous year
>>284220140>>284220201>That's not right>Prove it>Err I dunnoLmao
>>284220140>>284220201I love how you cant prove him wrong. You're just butthurt over MHA for some odd reason. The point is that MHA is so influential that a political parody was made inspired by it.
>>284219699>KnY single handedly moved the industry into making big budget canon movies.Lmao
>>284219513>nowThis is from S2
Canon movies has existed way before KnY was a thing and there hasn't been an increase after Mugen Train eitherJJK has had no influence whatsoever >>284217862Also All Might is officially canon to the marvel universe and a Deku figure was in Spiderverse 2
>>284214663 The big three isn't a fade. It was a moment in time where the internet was getting more mainstream and Naruto, Bleach and One Piece happened to be the most popular anime for a long time. Their title is less about their popularity and more so the fact that they were present when anime became readily available in the rest of the world. Of course you would have to do annoying shit like going to spescific forums or watch episodes on youtube divided on multiple videos just to consume the medium. It was still the beginning of a new era.
>>284223284Compared to the maybe 1 every 4 or 5 years.>>284223431Not a canon film
>>284224036>Not a canon filmStrong World IS canon
>>284223534Cameos are not influence
>>284224036>Compared to the maybe 1 every 4 or 5 yearsA year before KnY we had the Kuroko's Basketball Final movie, there was also the Rascal Bunny Girl movie all of which premiere before Mugen Train
>>284224118When are you going to stop coping and seething anon?
>>284224074It is not canon to the main story. You dont need to watch it to follow the main plot
>>284214663Naruto despite having ended is still a relevant character in people's minds. Sailor Moon, is another example.Of these three series the only character that may have lasting recognition is All Might. The rest are too generic looking. Anime characters need to be visually distinct to remain relevant in the west.
>>284224164?? Im a different anon. If Deku showing up as a figurine is influence then Usher doing the Gojo pose is influence.
>>284215150JJK died with GODjo
>>284217862>Toho literally changed its business model for anime after MHA'sThat was more Haikyu!! If anything
>>284220008When was it Stone? The Stone anime came out after KnY burst into popularity. TPN would fit more, because that was hit right out of the gate even before the anime.
>>284214663Because The Big Three was never a real term to begin with. Westerners coined it.
>>284218371>BleachAre you for real? Most men there are good looking, it caters fujos too.
>>284218485Hilarious that the most fujo out of the big 3 is the most popular with men
>>284218371>>284222410>One Piece, Naruto, Bleach>The big three for menLol, Lmao even. As if fujofaggotry isn't more rampant in those three series
>>284218371>Naruto >for men
Baki is the only manly series.
>>284224174>It is not canon to the main storyIt is
>>284224253The Gojo pose isn't even something JJK invented you retard
>>284224379The President of TOHO says otherwise. HQ isn't on the equation
>>284225109Not canon to the main story as in RELEVANT to the main story
>>284224174>It is not canon to the main story
>>284225167The fucking current manga arc features a character who is the main villain of Strong World. You would not know who the fuck he is unless you read>>284225172 and watch Strong World
>>284214663I want sukuna to rape me
>>284224263Nah, JJK died with Nobara getting fridged
>>284225129And? A cameo doesnt have the ability to change things, its just a shoutout.
>>284225205Featuring a character from a movie later on is not the same thing as adapting a whole arc as a movie.
>>284225286And you're a retard. Continue to cope and seethe
>>284225332>Featuring a character from a movie laterShiki has made several appearances throughout the manga and is embedded into its setting. He's literally apart of its fucking history.
>>284225337Concession accepted
>>284225372Is strong world an arc in the main story?
>>284225332>Featuring a character who important to the lore and history of a nanga that's entirely about its lore and history isn't as important as a shittu cash grab flick that could have aired on TV
>>284225431Is Shiki in the main story of OP
>>284225402>Gets proven wrong>I accept your concession
>>284225472That is not what this is about and you know it. You can skip Strong World and still keep up with One Piece just fine. You cant skip Mugen Train or Reze because they are continuations of the main story. Strong World is not a continuation.
>>284225561What did you prove wrong about a cameo not being considered influence?
>>284214663MHA was utter dogshit after it got the same editor as Samurai 8, it wasn't great before but you would at least see occasional glimpses of greatness aside from the art like the Liberation Army arc.Jujutsu Kaisen got one of those endings that are so mediocre they are not worth discussing, but I still would consider it one of Jump's modern Big 3.I know you didn't mention Chainsaw Man but that one also sucks and its second part is one of the worst Shounen sequels ever made.Only Kimetsu no Yaiba truly deserves to be in that category, but given how modern producers and editors talk even outside of Shueisha, it seems like Japan considers Kimetsu no Yaiba, Jujutsu Kaisen and Chainsaw Man to be the Big 3 even though Japan hates the second part of Chainsaw Man and didn't care for the first animated season.Regardless the very concept of trying to force every popular Jump manga into "a new big 3" feels forced as fuck
>>284225592>That is not what this is about and you know itSW is Canon retard>>284225592>You can skip Strong World and still keep up with One Piece just fine.SW and Episode 0 literally have a major event thats not present in the story if you dont watch it and its helmed by Oda.
>>284214663Has to be a Jump title to be part of their Big 3. That's why Bleach was in as an underperformer. KnY is too big to be lumped in with those titles from the dying Jump.
>>284215150>BnHA is not respected by anyoneBy literal faggots. It's the only thing that makes sense.
>>284225733Episods 0 was a made AFTER the movie. It wasnt a straight up adaptation of an arc in the main manga in between seasons. That is what I mean by canon film.
>>284214663Because they're derivative from the real Big Three. Besides all of them are written like shit. What do people see in them, the fights?
>>284226304What is Demon Slayer derivative of? The others bring something to mind..
>>284225645The cameo is taking the likeness of the character directly
>>284226171>Episods 0 was a made AFTER the movieSee>>284225172This was literally given to moviegoers on release of SW
>>284225695>MHA was utter dogshit after it got the same editor as Samurai 8Oh look /a/ is wrong yet again
>>284214663I have no idea who the middle is
>>284226339Jojo, Bleach, HxH.
>>284226444Yeah, he's wrong. It was always dogshit.
>>284226349All that shows is that the character is well known not influential. People aping Hori's art style is influence. It helped shape the development of something. Deku showing up briefly does not affect anything.
>>284226371Exactly. A seperate part of the manga, not an arc already in the main story turned into a movie.
>>284226444Wasnt that volume with voting postcards in them for the final popularity poll in which the winner got a gold statue?
>>284214663You can only become one of the big after you reproduced, how many kids did Deku have?
>>284215150JJK being dogshit started well before that ending.>Heh, that character you liked? DEAD LOOOL ISN'T THAT SO LE SHOCKING XDAnd of course, normalfags ate it up because forced drama and tragedy = good amirite?
>>284227111What's bad about characters being killed?
>>284227162Nothing he's probably seething the two white guys in the show were two jobbers that both ate shit and died early
>>284227162>>284227231How to say you're 13 without saying it
>>284227162>>284227267Killing 99% of the cast does not a good series make, normalfags.
>>284226577>A seperate part of the mangaHow is it separate when its literally apart of the canon retard
>>284227267Whoops, thread bumped and misclicked your post instead of this >>284227231 fag.Sorry about that.
>>284214663Is Demon Slayer the only big shounen in recent years with a good ending?
>>284227283The lethality in JJK is extremely overstated. There are relatively few deaths among the good guys, and the ones that do die, don't do so at random.Here are all the big deaths>Junpei killed to develop Yuji and Mahito>Riko killed as the plot demanded>Mechamaru killed to showcase Mahito and cut the traitor plot thread>Nanami killed to develop Yuki>Yaga killed the deepen the effects of the Shibuya crisis and further alienate the higher-ups>Yuki killed to out the cast in an even worse position after losing Tengen>Gojo killed so the rest of the cast can finish off Sukuna>Choso killed because he killed too many innocents and to end the brothers plot thread
>>284227543My bad, I forgot about>Mai killed for the same reason as Yaga and to develop Maki
>>284227543>>284227793>"extremely overstated">*literal paragraph*Okay retard.>B-BUT IT WAS TO DEVELOP THIS CHARACTERWhich is why I called it forced. It's the cheapest, most boring and uninspired way to have "character development", AKA they just behave like everything is srs bsns afterwards and become an autistic faggot focused on revenge or some other goal with a one track mind, not actual character development.Modern shounentroons are so fucking miserable, my God. Even characters like Vegeta blow the fuck out of modern shounen "character development".>hurrrr he went from quirk chungus to angry no fun allowed retard, d-development!!11!!Grow up.
>>284227299It was not in the main manga. Strong World was not adapted from any part of the main story. It was not a continuation of the story that you had to watch like Reze or Infinity Castle to keep up with the main story.
>>284227267>>284227310Lmao the baldies are seething. little white CT can't handle BIG JAPANESE CURSED ENERGY
>>284228672I swear Nanami was an epic troll by Gege>depressed retard no drive >simps for an Asian girl >dreams to emigrate to an Asian country (a different one at least)>gets his record beat by a Japanese new comer>gets btfo and killed by a cursed spirit that said Japanese kid folded 1000 times defeats with his superior Nihongo strength effortlessly Lmao Grade 1 FRAUD. And the other white guy was some weird faggot with a hand job bladeGege was not subtle
>MHAHas the Naruto problem of having too many characters that do nothing>JJKDoesn't have mainstream appeal>Demon SlayerDoesn't have mainstream appeal
>Naruto, One Piece, Bleach The big 3 of the 2000s and early 2010s>MHA, JJK, KNY The big 3 of the late 2010s and early 2020s
>>284228823>Demon Slayer doesn't have mainstream appealretard
>>284229322>JJK doesn't have mainstream appealretard
>>284215638Saint Seiya makes makes more sense than Jojo. Arguably Kinnikuman or Captain Tsubasabut they had their respective peaks earlier.
>>284228823Genuinely kill yourself.
>>284223534>JJK has had no influence whatsoeverSure thing bud.
Because hoodweeb bait animes suck ass
>>284220155That was all retconned in. The difference is that's the entire point of Boku not to mention every shonen is about chosen one with special lineage
>>284214663Pop culture dogshit. Atleast KNY doesn't pretend to be anything else and is enjoyable.
i don't understand why jujutsu kaisen is so popular, it's painfully midnot bad mind you, just mid
>>284227162>>284227231These jjk tourist tards don't fit anywhere outside jjk threads with the only manga they've read along with maybe a couple at most. You can smell them a mile away.
>>284215200Yeah, in the age of these zoom zoom faggotry dogshit, a straight arrow like KnY is a godsend.
>>284232430Say that again in English, seaFAGGOT.
They should have a webtoon board for the new gens like csm, jjk and kbc desu.
>>284227073So neither of this series are big 3 because nobody have sex. Either sons or daugthers. Only retarded fujoshis seaniggers delusions of being gay ships.
>>284214663Big 3 is a term coined by the west. You’re either a mainstream anime or you’re not.
>>284224603Hitsugaya, Ichigo, Aizen, Grimmjow….fujo bait up the ass
>>284231657GayGay copied that from a Bleach panel, btw
>>284233154Doesn't JJK have a sequel? And you tell me Itadori never scored? Lmao.
>>284233582But they are a worse Boruto Marvel for sóyboys and still retarded landwhales. Eitheir the protagonist have no sons or daughters. That is itadori.
>>284235105No he never scored. This Is only for niggerfaggots normalfaggots redditors
>>284214663I don't think anything will ever match the original Big Three
