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Was Jujutsu Kaisen the only good modern day shonen? Sure Midulo was a piece of shit but JJK itself was the only modern shonen thats not a complete trainwreck and Demon Slayer is too shitty and bland to even count
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That would be Jigokuraku.
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underage thread
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JJK doesn't do ONE THING original, so no.

It's just HxH/Bleach for zesty browns
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>>288253290
KnY>>>CSM>>MHA>>>>>JJK
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>>288253307
>Jigokuraku
Very underrated.
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>>288253307
Really strong start, kinda fiddled out as they elaborated on the tao autism and introduced the new group of executioners.
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>>288253311
HxH and Bleach didn't do anything original either
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>>288253307
Jigokuraku is soft seinen
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>>288253290
>Midulo was a piece of shit
If you think that way, you never read or understood JJK message and themes only the hype moments and aura. Modulo is the ending to JJK.
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>>288253307
the only good thing about that manga is the art
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Reading this is less gay than reading JJK
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>>288255942
it's okay, not everybody is smart enough to understand it
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>>288253290
Why does he have dick sucking lips?
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>>288253290
Well, no. Fire Force was a masterpiece.
Demon Slayer was good too. Almost as good as JJK
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>>288253307
That was also good and achieved a good ending.
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>>288253311
The inner demon is actually evil, newfag.
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>>288253307
fpbp
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>>288256736
what kind of cope is that? lmao
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>>288258235
to suck dick
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>>288253290
Reading the new gen battle manga is tragic. Try to find a protagonist with a believable motive pre chapter 50 (where the writer tries to save the sinking ship). You can't.
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>>288261520
JJK, Demon Slayer, Jigaroku. The titles already listed here do have believable motive though.
>save people
>save people and my sister
>live with my wife.
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>>288262596
I was referring to the stuff after JJK and CSM as "new gen".
Past that everything is absolute slop like Choujin X and Ichi the Witch.
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>>288253290
>Sure Midulo was a piece of shit
kys
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>>288261520
>"not being executed" is not a believable motive
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>>288253290
Modulo is much better than jjk
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>>288261520
>Wants to save his sister
>Wants to do something with his life/death
And that's the ones I can remember off the top of my head. What more did you want?
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>>288264131
No fucking way.
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>>288263056
>>288264185
I mentioned this in another reply, but I'm referring to the new serializations. By "new gen" I mean, like, current. Or at least new serializations within the past 5 years.
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>>288261520
Nito no Joreishi had good protagonists too bad the manga got axed, atleast IT had a decent closure.
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>>288253290
Kagurabachi sucks ass, and I have no idea what people like on it
It's just random action panels drawn together with no overall narrative or clear indication of what the limits on character powers are
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>>288253290
JJK has a lot of scenes of grandeur but if you look past it, it's really a whole lot of nothing.
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>>288253290
Sukuna is too sexy
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>>288258235
He'd win
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Hidden Inventory>Shibuya>Gojokuna>First part>jjk0>Final showdown>Culling games
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>>288253290
>Jujutsu Kaisen
Trash.
>Demon Slayer
More trash.

There are no good modern shounen. I'd rather read Hirayasumi.
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>>288265420
>if you look past the parts that are good, it's bad
bravo, anon
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>>288253307
Rare modern manga that didnt botch its ending or drag it out. Hats off to the author. Shoutout Sagiri, Yuzuriha and Tao Fa.
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>>288253290
>Was Jujutsu Kaisen the only good modern day shonen?
Literally all it had was aura and hype moments. The story and its characters are completely fucking hollow.
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>>288266089
It has the best fight writing of any shonen period, and the character writing is sparse rather than bad.
Gojo is a well written character, as are geto and yuji and choso.
The social commentary and themes are also nuanced and integrated well into the story without being overbearing.

Is it a focused story with a consistent throughline?
No
Is it better than 90% of other shonen (including most mainstream popular shonen)?
Absolutely
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>>288265959
>>if you look past the parts that are good, it's bad
It really bad without the spectacle. Worded it much better than I did.
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>>288266332
And if you remove the sole from a shoe it's uncomfortable
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>>288253307
the second half is just tao tao tao tao tao tao tao
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>hey i just make myself surrounded by infinite space
>yeah but i cut across that space
L M A O the most retarded boss fight ever seen, big lips Cell was less retarded
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>>288253307
/thread
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>>288266169
Based
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>>288253290
I love Dandadan personally! My favourite character has got to he Jiji with Kinta as a close second.
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>>288253290
Some would argue that JJK was way too fightfag focused and shit as a result, but I think it introduced a premise and followed through with it well and that honesty of it makes it way better than any other series that pretends to be something it's not, or even the fans of said series pretend it's something it's not, like some le deep story or whatever.
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It's like saying an f1 driver that ramped into the crowd and beheaded dozens of spectators while dying in a fireball had a pretty good race otherwise
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>>288258298
>Old Man Zangetsu
Bonus points: Ichigo's evil inner demon pretends to be good when his inner good guy spirit is assumed to be evil, so it's more interesting than Suckuna.
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>>288267209
Nigra Cell is great, so I don't get your point.
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>>288253307
Honestly, this is just for the series being able to stick its landing, which is an anomaly in battle shonen.
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>>288271777
lol. Only ever helping Ichigo and being retconned into a clone of an actual bad guy isn't nearly the same thing. That is just like all the other purely beneficial inner demons and an example of the point.
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>>288264131
>You will allow the quite literal Aliens invade your country, take your land and flood it with cursed spirits otherwise YOU ARE A BIGGOT! ALSO SOME FUCKING HOW, THEY HAVE A SUKUNA LEVEL AUTIST THAT WILL FUCKING MURDER YOU IF YOU ARE A BIGGOT! oh and Yuji Itadori becomes fucking Luke Skywalker from The Last Jedi, a hero who saved the world with his friends, who ends up self secluding, abandoning his friends and not using his powers for the greater good cause "The world doesn't need heroes"
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>>288264131
The idea if introducing aliens is retarded enough to drop it.
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>>288275976
same shit with demons,except demons are even dumber because of magic power nonsense
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>>288253290
It wasn't good. You're just a literal faggot manchild.
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>>288276204
It's clearly a fantasy setting so demons are a given. Why add aliens to a show about magic?
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>>288265637
There's no way anyone thinks season one is better than the culling games , season one was trying to throw anything to the wall to see what stuck (none of it) and just followed the same tropey B's other animes did before it. Culling games at minimum had decent fights back to back especially in the anime.
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>>288253290
MHA is unironically the only good nu-shonen and only because it copies to big 3 formula exactly. JJK and CSM stories are just a mess, just a collection of hyped up twists that end up twisting the story into pure nonsense
KnY is nice too but it's too short to be a serious contender
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>>288262763
Kagurabachi
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>>288253290
Jujutsu Kaisen isn't good. It was just entertaining to read along with because of how off the wall stupid it was getting towards the end. Good stories have things like character arcs and development. They don't tease storylines that never go anywhere or have authors that throw in the towel because something is too tedious to draw.
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>>288276230
Why did they show up in DB, Naruto and OP? It's just what happens in battle shonen
>inb4 OP doesn't have aliens
Ok extraterrestrial robots not aliens wow big difference
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>>288253290
Lol they're the same tier
JJK is more complex but also more asspulls plot hole and other shitty writing mistakes
KnY is just blander and simpler but also means less egregious writing mistakes and sins
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>>288277645
KNY is the ultimate proof that simple can be good. Croc's biggest pitfall was overreliance on flashbacks, but she never pretended the story was bigger than it was.
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>>288253290
JJK = Strawberry
KnY = French Vanilla
MHA = Chocolate Fudge Brownie
CSM = Salted Caramel
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>>288253290
Nah Undead Unluck was.
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>>288262596
>new
>shit from 8 years ago
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>>288277971
wait until you find out that "modern art" includes stuff that's almost a century old
it's just a term people use for a certain period
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>>288277604
DB is about magical aliens from the start. In Naruto they are retarded as well. I haven't read OP in like a decade so no opinion.
It's very jarring in jjk. They teased foreign sorcerers with the whip nigger and then dropped it and went with aliens. Even DB exhausted the earth before going to outer space.
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>>288278464
Because gege is a retarded contrarian. He is literally only rich because of the editor, gege didn't want gojo, the trio, or sorcerers/curses he wanted maki yuta and Fortnite
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>>288253290
I watched a few episodes, it is totally soulless slop.
The youngsters probably like it because it's all new for them.

It's as if you asked an AI what makes Narto, HxH and Bleach great, what were their major hooks, and then told the AI to make a manga with all of those. It's just mixing stuff based on analysis, without actually understanding art.
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>>288279049
>watched
oh nonono
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>>288253290
They're both low-tier shounen that has nothing to add to the table and they're replaceable in the grand scheme of things.

JJK is just another action manga with characters giving cool one-liners, aura farming, dick measuring contests and beating the shit out of each other. It makes up for its weak writing with the author at least knowing how to draw cool fight scenes but when all is said and done, no one really remembers anything about JJK. However, I think even if JJK will be forgotten in the wheels of time, Gojo himself will be remembered for a very long time because he's bigger than his own franchise and memes will sustain JJK a bit longer.

KnY has nothing to offer either. It's just another run-of-the-mill monster hunter battle shounen. But unlike JJK that at least makes up its poor writing with cool fights, KnY doesn't really shine in any area. The art on both manga are bad but JJK has a bit more positives because the artist has spatial awareness and a sense of choreography when drawing fights unlike KnY's where the art has no sense of flow and the fight scenes are exposition dumps. Sometimes the dialogue lands in the emotional scenes, but the artist still fumbles because the dialogues are mostly dull monologues about nothing and characters always describing what they see, what they do, what they hear and what they feel, leaving no space for subtlety whatsover. Almost as if the artist has no faith in his audience's intelligence.

KnY also has this problem of being overreliant on flashbacks to flesh out a bunch of otherwise underdeveloped characters because it's easier to show the trauma than to develop it organically in the present timeline. The series is built on tragedy porn and almost every major character (and many minor ones) has a "my entire family was slaughtered by demons" sob story for maximum pathos quickly before the next fight hits.

Having said that, I like JJK a little more because Gege focused on what he was good at: cool fights.
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>>288281596
zenitsu's sparrow also havr a sad past with demons eating his family, the manga is obviously a parody one, Gotouge was inspired by Sorachi
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>>288279049
>watched
>M*ppa
lmfao.



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