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When does this start getting good?
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>>288267836
When you start being honest
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ep 1 0:00:01
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>>288267836
if the silly elf doesn't awaken something inside you since the first moment, it's not for you
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>>288267836
Assuming this isn't a pure bait thread, it's after they recruit Stark
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>>288268770
it's literally boring bruh
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>>288268770
that's when it gets worse
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>>288267836
It stops being good after the Qal fight. The whole series is just a repetition of all the bits, themes and music done before.
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>>288269607
It doesn't get worse, it just doesn't get better.

>story repeats the same keynotes from the beginning chapters
>entire arc and goal of the main character is to 'understand people', when characters in Frieren have no nothing to understand because they are all kindhearted, thankful and wise
>little to no stakes
>you can skip 3/4 of the chapters because nothing matters, they are glorified filler
>manga is absolute dogshit, anime is saved by a very high production value in terms of music and animation
>it is basically fantasy Azumanga Daioh that got misinterpreted into being a fantasy story for the otaku who grew up watching fucking isekai
>world is basically an inconsequential MMORPG world without the game part, you have magic shops and snacks for the usual comic gags even in demon-infested wasteland
>human-to-human violence is not allowed, because it'd be confusing if Frieren began murdering people, and all these super powerful mages somehow don't topple every government and rape and steal everything in sight
>it is Berserk, except it has the moral depth of Barney The Dinossaur
>the side-characters are awful, absolute dogshit with zero objectives for themselves, and even the Chuunin Exam here was a pillow fight because characters are not allowed to be evil
>"most evil human" is depressed and keeps degrading himself, even though he is also a nice person
>Himmel "The Hero" is basically simp Griffith, his entire ideology of not taking the world seriously and just have fun is the death of stakes
>all "lessons" are just truisms

It is Barney The Dinossaur, except anime.
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>>288267836
When you stop posting bait OPs on /a/
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people that don't like frieren should be put in concentration camps and starved to death, simple as.
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>>288268770
early Stark arcs (Starcs) are so boring though, it is only when the girls offer his butthole to a random noble that he develops real pathos
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>>288270393
their parents should be whipped until they stop feeding them for free
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>>288268770
It actually takes a pitifall when they recruit Fern, and we realize she is barely a character, and nothing in her challenges Frieren whatsoever since all Fern wants to do is what Frieren wants to do, she just wants Frieren to not take long.

Then there are the characters:

>Frieren

Incredibly gimmicky character whose only flaw is that she does not understand time because she is 'le immortal' and is coldhearted and indifferent. She is selectively dumb, when the slice of life segments need an antagonist, and she is forced to act like a fool for the plot to happen.

>Heiter

"Le corrupt priest" whose only flaw is that... He drinks in moderation.

>Fern

A psychopath who never once showed any thought about her home that was lost to war, and nothing is ever spoken about her past because it'd make people think. We have no insight of her, except one time she got scared because Stark held her shoulder too strong. That is played out like a romance / comedy bit, and the opportunity for character development is wasted. She probably witnessed her entire family being raped in the Berserk Golden Age war in the south, but we'll never know.

>Stark

Utter piece of shit character, the apex of 'tell don't show' because he is a coward who is always brave, while rattling about that one time he got scared and ran away when he was 5 years old.

>the Level 1 Mage Exam characters

Either goonbait, or the old man who turned out to be nice, like everyone.

>Himmel The Hero

Anime Mr. Rogers, self-insert by the incel protagonist who fantasizes that the girl that he simped for will one day want to fuck him if only she lives forever (she won't). He delivers some wishful thinking and pretty truism, Little Prince-style. Very conveniently, this Hero never had his morality questioned, so he is a Griffith-like saint super genius.

This being the top anime only shows people are willing to love a stool as long as the package is polished.
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I'm not OP and I'm not ragebaiting, but I watched 2 eps and was bored out of my fucking mind. The pacing is slow as fuck, world is generic as fuck, MC has no personality. Maybe it gets better but legit don't know how people don't drop it right at the start.
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>>288267836
Episode 1 is literally the only good episode of this entire show, you are supposed to just watch that thinking is an OVA and call it a day.
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>Frieren, I will suck your shit and eat your dick, just don't kill me!
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>>288267836
I watched five episodes and got bored of it. I felt like nothing interesting happened in those episodes.
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>>288268737
You might be retarded
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It's good at the start, then later turns into a shitty Naruto clone. So that's probably when the retards ITT would think it gets good; When the Chuunin Exam Arc begins around episode 18.
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>>288270454
This could be decent criticim if it wasn't meant to be bait, but I'll say Fern did almost kill herself over it, and she had years to move on. Himmel was also goody to a fault since he let that demon girl live. But overall the character drama in this show is more centered around what it means to be human, and the people who try to suppress that part of themselves, like Genau or Serie. So stories will be driven by discovery rather than dysfunction, there's different stakes involved basically.

>>288271990
Aura, suck my dick and eat my shit.
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>>288267836
When she fights that demon that stole a vanana and suffocated him by kneeling on his neck.
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>>288270454
>Fern wants to do is what Frieren wants to do
like a daughter would to his mother, but she does have agency though, please read the manga
> she is forced to act like a fool for the plot to happen
are you a sexual predator? are you not allowed near kids? have you not seen how a teenager acts? she is selectively dumb because SHE IS socially dumb.
>drinks in moderation
always drunk on duty, where is the moderation?
>have no insight of her
if reading between the line is not a skill, you certainly lack one
>one time he got scared and ran away when he was 5 years old
why is this not a good flaw? he saw how brave his brother is, of course he took shame in himself running
>goonbait
only ubel
> he is a Griffith-like saint super genius
you criticize this because people around you never gave you one thing, a good being done without cause

with this in mind, we can conclude you're a jeet, go back and clean your street faggot



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