I just got a hip sex doll.I fucked her immediately after opening the box.It was very nice.I "clothed" her with a sock so the thread wouldn’t get deleted.Her hole is very nice. It’s a little small but when I was thrusting deeper I could see my dick literally stretching out her stomach so I guess it added to the fun.This is so much better than my hand. The ass bounce, the sound inside the plastic, how it was gripping on my dick. I’m never watching porn ever again.Anyway now that I coomed, I’m wondering how should I hide this thing?I was thinking of an Ottoman chair with hidden storage but they are kind of expensive. Plus how could I dry and hide it at the same time in an enclosed space?
>>31997596If I ever get like this anon just mercy kill me. How do you do shit like this and tell anyone even on the internet.Kill yourself thats the advice
Nah bro you wild. Someone should lock your nasty ass up. Hide that shit under your bed or something. get like a sleep couch or something put it in there. Please use disinfection spray and rinse "her" hole with warm water (not hot). if you got some cleaning brush also use that. then just let it air dry, you little nasty ass
>>31997681Do you watch porn? Have you ever watched porn?Yes? Then you can't judge me.Porn is actually worse than fucking a sex doll.When you watch porn, you are watching another man have sex with a female you desire. You are literally sitting like a cuck trying to self-insert as the male porn actor. THIS is pathetic.Not only that but it's proven porn has A LOT of damaging effects.The fact that men are criticized for owning sex dolls but not for watching porn is retarded and hypocritical. Owning a sex doll is a much healthier masturbation choice than porn for men who have high libido but can't get sex or don't have the time or energy to invest in dealing with women. Getting too used to your hand can also make you worse at actual sex especially if you grip too hard or overstimulate yourself with porn.Women own all kinds of sex toys that do things real men can't even do like vibrating or gyrating but no one judges them for that.
>>31997728> STOP CRITICIZING MENNah buddy this is a you issue. Thanks for the screencap this shits hilarious.One step away from trooning out if not worse.
>>31997719>Hide that shit under your bed or something. get like a sleep couch or something put it in there.I can't hide it under my bed because my bed is a $50 airbed with no frame.>Please use disinfection spray and rinse "her" hole with warm water (not hot). if you got some cleaning brush also use that. then just let it air dry, you little nasty assI bought cleaning equipment too lol don't worry It even came with a drying stick.
>>31997734Once again, objectively how is this worse than watching porn?Why is watching another man fuck a woman you desire while you are sitting on a chair fapping like a cuck, considered normal, but using a semi-realistic masturbation aid isn't?Matter of fact, why is stroking with my hand normal(stroking that could be unhealthy if I gripped too hard for example and that is nothing like real vagina), but using a semi-realistic stroker in silicone isn't?My hand isn't enough and I don't want to watch porn(because to me it is cuckoldry and can be unhealthy for the mind). I don't want to waste my time chasing women because I have other things to prioritize in life. I'm still horny tho. This sex doll is a good way for me to satiate my libido while staying focused on growth and building, without getting distracted by women.
>>31997596Just put it in your dresser.
>>31997596I stopped caring and just cover it with my blanket. It's the same as a big fluffy thing my nieces like cuddling except there are holes for me to poke at night into
>>31997728I think there is nothing wrong with watching porn if you're voluntarily celibate but I think if you masturbate to women you're fucking pathetic though. applies to all non-fictional characters actually. drawn porn is okay and not bad for you cuz you're not watching a video of someone being fucked, you're looking at a drawing of a fictional character that has zero flaws. should only be watched if you want nothing to do with women your entire life.Imagine losing someone you love, that would be awful. thats one of the various reasons why some choose to just use their hand for life. I have zero motivation to work/contribute as I have nobody to spend my profits from the job. that is a good thing, I get to be lazy and relax.no offense OP but you're a fucking loser lol. if you said plushies or a pocket pussy that would be 1 thing but buying an actual sex "doll"? lmao. just do pressed pills at this pointMy advice for you OP is that before you ever do anything you should ask yourself "would accidentally talking about this in front of my family/friends make me commit suicide?" if the answer is yes then put your dick away.I'm sorry you haven't been blessed with as high of an intelligence as I. Good Luck, OP
>>31997596>I "clothed" her with a sock so the thread wouldn’t get deleted.Thank you for your consideration. I have no advice to offer at this time.
Op fucks a plastic ass and thinks anyone will argue with him about who’s retarded.Lmao
>>31997904>no offense OP but you're a fucking loser lol. if you said plushies or a pocket pussy that would be 1 thing but buying an actual sex "doll"? lmao. just do pressed pills at this pointIt's not a full fledged sex doll it's just a small hip. Its only 17.5 cm in sitting height, shorter than my penis erect hence why it was stretching out.It's essentially just a more features onahole with two orifices.A pocket pussy doesn't have as much feedback and I can't freehand stroke it as easily.>My advice for you OP is that before you ever do anything you should ask yourself "would accidentally talking about this in front of my family/friends make me commit suicide?" if the answer is yes then put your dick away.Well I wouldn't want my family to know I have this but accidentally telling them wouldn't make me kms.There are many things my family doesn't agree with.I wouldn't even tell my mom I had pre-marital sex for example she would hate me. If I was to live by her standards then I would have to wait until I'm 30 years old with a stable career to ever marry and have sex. I love my mom but I'm not going to live the rest of my life chained to her and her beliefs.What I do is my business alone.As for my friends they know lol. I don't give a fuck if some boy got a issue with it. Some of them judged me, others didn't think anything of it. It's whatever. I have absolutely no shame telling my friends about this or any random boy for that matter.>>31998000Appreciate. Mirin trips.To be clear, this is a sock I never wore before
>>31998101Why is fucking a plastic ass bad but a meat hand isn't?Why is watching hundreds of videos of other men having sex with women you desire ok, but fucking a plastic ass isn't?
>>31998127Nobody else is talking about porn or masturbating either. On top of being a lolcow degenerate you have also convinced yourself everyone else is too.I fuck pussies faggot. You subscribe to blacked.com and fuck a plastic toy.You are a dog compared to even the lower 50% of men. Suicide is inevitable.
>>31997596>be me>35>last fucked at 29I'm at the point where I'm wondering if this is a smart purchase. Also I contemplate suicide all day and tell trannies on /lgbt/ I want to bone them. God help me.
>>31998252Pay prostitutes
>>31998273>poorUnreal how badly things have gone
>>31998127>Why is fucking a plastic ass bad but a meat hand isn't?Occhams razor
its okay anon i have a full body doll that I got for $1300
>>31997596For scientific interest only I wonder what effect this has on T level. Masturbation supposedly reduces T level while sexual intercourse increases T level. So should this doll sex be considered masturbation or simulated sex?
>>31998842Survivorship Bias> how odd, men who masturbate have lower t to men who fuck bitches
>>31997596Here's a fun idea, OP: Instead of dropping porn altogether, switch to literary porn, and at the point in the story where the male character rapes the female character, close your eyes and fuck your doll.
>>31998865But men in relationships also often watch porn.
>>31997596>> enclosed space>> dryPick one, you can't have both. You aren't going to maintain the hygiene of it if you have other people in your house you need to hide it from constantly. Maybe you should just go do some social activities so you can meet real people, probably less effort than trying to secretly scrub your jizz out of a plastic cup. >>31997728Watching porn is not bad, and certainly not in the same realm as fucking a piece of plastic... kek
>>31998886>watching other people having sex is not perverted
>>31998865What on earth is this incel bullshit? Every man on earth masturbates. Every single one. So does every woman. Every single one. Player. Monogamous relationship. Polygamer. Incel. Femcel. Doesn't matter. All masterbate.
>>31998867demonically-directed talons wrote this reply
>>31998910No they don't. Monks don't masturbate, neither do NoFappers.
>>31998842>Masturbation supposedly reduces T level while sexual intercourse increases T levelIt doesn'tEjaculation temporarily reduces your T levels but it's very short lived(like 30 minutes). It's because of prolactin release. Your levels go back to normal after."Sexual intercourse" if you ejaculate does the same.If you truly have "scientific interest" stop taking shit people say online at face value and actually read papers.
>>31997728Porn might be worse than fucking a sex doll but have you ever considered the fact that you can just not grip too hard, overstimulate and that you have a choice over what you jerk off to? I don't jerk off to anything that has another man in it.Ive never used one, but Im guessing that thing is probably tighter than my own unlubricated hand.Quit trying to justify your coomerism.>I'm never watching porn ever againI don't believe you. You were horny enough to buy a big rubber ass I don't think you'll be able to control yourself. Give it a month you'll be fucking that thing while watching porn like a complete degen, throw it in the bin before you get there.
>>31999225>Monks don't masturbate, neither do NoFappers.kekJust because they tell you they never masturbate doesn't mean they don't.There have been quite a few scandals exposing Buddhist monasteries for raping kids :https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2012/mar/09/youtube-confessional-buddhist-kalu-rinpochehttps://www.bbc.com/news/world-south-asia-15507304https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2011/jul/01/lama-sex-abuse-sogyal-rinpoche-buddhistIf they can't control not fucking kids I can assure you they can't control masturbating in secret lmao.Most NoFappers that don't masturbate will have sex from time to time.
>>31997596I find this thread to be extremely amusing. The picture, the way it was phrased, the replies, the attempts of OP to justify himself. Perfectly crafted.
>>31999288Those are just the ones who failed. It's not like not masturbating is some kind of impossible feat, you get used to it after a month.
>>31997596Don't let them get to you OP if women and gays can have disembodied cocks with pump action cumshots you can have your disembodied pussybutt. Your stance on porn is pretty stupid though.
>>31999290This.Not enough lolcows anymore, too many searching for him. We found you OP you bovine bastard.
>>31998228I don't watch porn, let alone BLACKED.As a nigga I dislike how porn fetishize us it's kinda weird.Good for you if you are fucking pussies. I can fuck pussies too, but with a lot of investment which I cannot afford to do right now. I can't afford to waste my time chasing bitches but I still have sexual desires to fulfill. This small toy helps me fulfill them while being focusing on my long-term goals. Because I have responsibilities to fulfill before wasting time, money, or energy on women. This toy only cost $30. Women cost me my attention, my love, my money, and my focus. Maybe I can affording this in the future but not now>>31998252>>31998301>and tell trannies on /lgbt/ I want to bone them.Come on man.My guess is watching more and more extreme content got you desensitized and then to this degenerate point.Anon. My advice is to get your life together. Get a toy like this if you want BUT only to fulfill your sexual needs in a healthy manner, not to wallow is mediocrity. Wallowing in mediocrity is unacceptable. It's okay to be at the bottom, but it's unacceptable to be comfortable there. Don't watch porn anymore(the fact you doing this tranny shit is telling). Focus on making yourself a better man.This is also why I bought this toy. When I had a girlfriend, not only did I focus less on my long term goals, I felt too fucking comfortable. It's unacceptable in my current situation. I can't afford this right now. Maybe in 1 year, 2 years, whenever the fuck I become more resourceful.
>>31998842Masturbation by itself does not reduce testosterone levels.The habits some chronic mastubators might have might lead to lower T levels.Ejaculation temporarily reduces testosterone (but the same happens with sex) because of prolactin release.>>31998886>Maybe you should just go do some social activities so you can meet real peopleI already do that.But I'm not trying to be in a relationship at the moment.I do not have the time for a relationship. I am too poor and unaccomplished to invest myself in such nonsense.After I get an internship maybe I will consider getting in the dating market again. But for now, I do not care about it.>probably less effort than trying to secretly scrub your jizz out of a plastic cup.I have almost full control over my ejaculatory response. I can last as long as I want and even if I get to the edge I am 100% sure I will be able to pull out or either do a hard kegel that will give me time to pull out.I'm never ejaculating inside of that thing.>>31999282>Porn might be worse than fucking a sex doll but have you ever considered the fact that you can just not grip too hard, overstimulate and that you have a choice over what you jerk off to?Solo porn videos are bad too imo.The only form of porn that is acceptable to me is shit a girl sent to you personally without expecting monetary compensation.I only fap to videos and pictures of my ex for that reason>Ive never used one, but Im guessing that thing is probably tighter than my own unlubricated hand.No, it feels similar to pussy. It's very stimulating but soft and squishy, like pussy. It's not hard and gripping like a hand. It's gripping but in a soft, squishy way>I don't believe you. You were horny enough to buy a big rubber ass It's not that big, look at it compared to my hand. Although I will admit I have very long fingers.It's literally smaller than my dick hence why I kept stretching out of it while deep thrusting. I could see my dick through the plastic.
>>31999426agree with a lot of what you're saying nglsome kinds of porn are ok (not most) but you can't let yourself get dependent on porn or even a toy. it has to be something you don't *have* to do, otherwise you can end up going down a dark path. and porn fetishizing black people is fucked, race fetishization is always kind of dehumanizing imo.
>>31998700Thanks lmao>>31998867No>>31998894The contradictions and cognitive dissonances of normalfags will never cease to amaze me.They just follow whatever society or the culture tells them without ever having any original or personal thoughts.>>31999290I am glad this is entertaining you anon.>>31999383To be honest, this only concerns me. I don't really judge other men who watch porn. Your business is your business.>>31999462Wise perspective anon.Thank you.
>>31999450honestly anon everything was alright until you showed your pajeet hand
Can't believe that niggas are clutching pearls over this. It's just a little act of indulgence. Something that we all do in some way. Bro spent a couple bucks to upgrade his fapping experience. Masturbation is something that is normal to enjoy and something he already does. Is it normal to own male sex toys? No but what's the big deal? Opee is unironically correct in saying that porn is worse than owning a sex toy. Much worse, even, depending on how deep you get into it.And yes I do say this as someone who has owned pocket pussies
>>31999507I'm black not Indian.I'm just hairier than most African descendants.>>31999508thank you anon
>>31999282>Im guessing that thing is probably tighter than my own unlubricated handFleshlights are generally less stimulating than using your hand. Obviously in both cases he level of stimulation (and therefore desensitization) depends on your technique. But generally the way most dudes masturbate is more stimulating than most strokers. The stimulation from the sex toy is obviously more pleasurable, but only if you are sensitive enough to feel it
>>31999515Ahahaha this nigga can’t get a white bitch so he fucks dolls. Ahahahaha
>>31999771Im not gonna lie I chuckledKekI can get women. But in my current situation it requires too much investment as I previously explained. I would rather cope with a doll to focus on my goals instead of wasting my time and energy on women and/or relationships. But that’s just me and temporary
>>31997775post drying stick
This coming from a trans man: I don't think there's anything weird or bad about your doll. I use a Hitachi wand every day. But I have no idea how you would keep it dry AND perfectly concealed if you don't have a lot of privacy (like it sounds). Do you have a closet you could crack open? Maybe put it on a high shelf in a closet? Maybe run a fan pointed inside the closet to promote air circulation?BTW: You could try having sex with men. They don't need as much time and attention as women do.
>>31999812Op, don't listen to all the whiny, chronic masturbator anons pretending to be puritans in this thread. Women buy and use dildos all the time, you buy a sex toy is no different. Arguably better than watching porn.
>>31997728This dude will be back to watching porn within the week month tops
>>31997827OP has a clear disdain towards woman, who hurt you?
>>31998127No one is saying either 2 is better or worse they're both bad dumbass
>>31998115The money you spent on that thing could've went to someone in need, like a starving kid on the street or something, instead you thought of gettinng your nut off beside all else, shame on you!
>>31999426Here's a thought you can just not masturbait. No harms gonna cum from not cumming.
>>31997596You fucked it straight from the factory without washing it ? Disgusting
>>31999863.>>31999887I'm not attracted to men>>31999897Thank you>>31999908I already stopped watching pornIt's been 2 months so far>>31999927I don't have disdain towards women. I have disdain towards myself for getting distracted by them at times. When I am more resourceful I can afford to spend my time on relationships but for now this is nonsense >>31999931Nobody ever called a man pathetic for watching porn the same way people react when a man admits to owning a sex toy. Porn is widely accepted and normalized for men in our society while toys are considered "pathetic">>31999947I can't help someone in need if I can't even help myself. That thing helps me avoid distractions from women so I can be focused on my long term goals. When I get closer to my long term goals, perhaps I will be able to help others in need, but for now I have to focus on helping myself, then helping my family, then helping my extended family. These are the people I have responsibility towards>>31999976I don't have sex either because I don't want to waste my time dating or meeting women just to get distracted by them. This is a luxury I cannot afford at the moment. My libido is too high to just completely stop any sexual activity. Last time I tried that, my brain just started masturbating on automatic in my sleep, i.e I had wet dreams and nocturnal emissions almost every night.>No harms gonna cum from not cumming.Sexual activity does not mean ejaculation. I fap and decide not to ejaculate on purpose many times. Because ejaculating releases prolactin which would make me less productive and that I don't want. On the other hand the pleasure that built up is good in a way especially considering my attention deficit.>>32000037I exaggerated the OP a bit for shock value but yes I did wash it lmao.
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>>31999450HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHOLYYY SHIIIITT
>>31999450This explains everything>But I'm not trying to be in a relationship at the moment.>I do not have the time for a relationship.Nobody wants to fuck a jeet. Sorry you were born Indian.
>>31997681It's a fucking anonymous imageboard for people aged 18+. Relax.
>>31997596OP don't listen to these naysayers. I've also had one of these while I was in college and it was fucking awesome. Unfortunately my roommate found it at one point, and threw it away. I live with a woman now and it would be weird to own it, but honestly I wish I could. It is without a doubt the best way to masturbate. Doing it with porn is also good.
>>31997728>are watching another man have sex with a female you desireYou realise there are multiple kinds of porn right? You don't need to involve another man at all. Way to self report.
>>31997596This is probably the best thread on /adv/ from the last 5 years.
>>31997596you should ask the onahole experts >>>/jp/47785419
>>31997596>>31997728I think its fine to have one but your 100% coping if you think its less harmful then porn. You flip on porn and about 15 mintues later move on with your day. Sex dolls are the ultimate coomer status, on top of that I assume you get no pussy. They are expesnive and annoying af to maintain. A former classmate was dating a pretty fine chick, but got into gooning and ended up buying the cheeks. It was over fr, bro was constantly using that shit. Neglecting responsibilities, his gf, etc. I think sex toys are fine. I have a fleshlight even. But lets not cope, its coomer status shit. >im never watching porn again Cope. You will. You are a gooner, and a lustful person. At some point it will get boring, and then you'll think about using porn with it. Then that turns into a daily thing, longer and longer amount of time. Etc.>>31998842Like >>31999262 says it decreases briefly before bouncing back. Studies have shown around 5-7 days your test peaks (not ejaculating), then decrease a bit to stabilize. So to optimze you should be ejaculating once a week to maintain peak levels. Longer you go up until a week is better.
>>31997596you should be shamed for betraying your hand like that anon
>>31997596LOL AHAHAHh anon REALLY felt like reviewing it lololol how disgusting fuck you, you're a disgrace now kill yourself
>>31999300>It's not like not masturbating is some kind of impossible feat, you get used to it after a month.I want to get back to this level sooo bad. Life on tutorial mode. No need to chase women or god forbid provide for kids. And you just feel less stressed out physiologically. It's so nice.
Buy a medicine cabinet on Amazon. I put my onaholes in those so my nosey mother doesn't go through it. Just make sure you hide the key.
>>31997596Why hiding? Put some roses into the holes and pretend you are an artist.>>31997827>Why is watching another man fuck a woman you desire while you are sitting on a chair fapping like a cuckDo man really, i like nake woman but that is disgusting at minimum hidden gayness.
>>31997596Nigga bought the WHOLE ASS. LMAO. I'm not judging though, I have an onahole and use it frequently.That said, I just rinse it out with water and toy cleaner foaming soap, use paper towels to dry the hole and toy out, then chuck it back in the box and chuck the box under my bed. Haven't had problems.That said, make SURE that bitch is dry. You can give yourself a yeast infection. Went to a dermatologist named Dr. WOOD (lol) bitch called it a "yeasty boi" Honestly was pretty funny.
>>31997596What an hilarious thread.Thanks for the read
>>31997596Could you pls tell me the make and model and where you purchased this? Thanks
I hope you aren't just banging this thing, OP and are actually using it to learn how to fuck
>>31997596Are you the anon with an African mom who will search your house any time she comes over?
>>31997596jesus christ this is sad, depressing and hilarious at the same time
>>32004343Thanks anonYour roommate is wrong for that>>32011434TANTALY 5.5LB Sex Doll Male Sex Dolls Entry-Level Ass Pocket Pussy Adult Sex Toys for MenOn Amazon >>32004504Lmao>>32005045Yes I looked at this general before >>32007120It's not a full fledged sex doll. It's easier to maintain. It's not that different from an onahole just with ass added.So far it's been good for me. I fuck with it when I'm horny, clean it and let it dry, and after that I'm free from my libido for a few days. I still feel it but to a controllable extent. I don't have other stimuli but the sex doll and it does feel healthier to me compared to getting overstimulated by numerous different audiovisual stimuli like with porn. At least with this one I just do it once and done with it, clean it quickly let it dry and go on with my day, and I don't have hundreds of different audiovisual sensory inputs thrown at me.>>32007162My hand loves it. It's been fingering the toy so much>>32009213Lol>>32009232Noted. Don't worry I keep it dry>>32011421You're welcome>>32011875Bro I even finger her and suck her pussy. I do imaginary foreplay for 15 minutes straight. Then when I put my thing in I imagine it's a female and I'm teasing her so I almost put it in and then remove it, start with shallow thrust and then surprise her with deeper ones. I play with the clit as I go in and out.The only unrealistic thing I do is when I deep thrust and it stretches out the toy looooool. But it's fun>>32011924Yes>>32011990Not sad or depressing.
>>31999300>>32007263If you are a high testosterone male with high libido, restraining from any sexual activity is indeed hard if not damn near impossible.And even if you manage to do it, your brain will just masturbate in your sleep, quite literally (wet dreams).Monks practice asceticism. Asceticism consists of abstinence from worldly pleasures and pursuits, which includes sex and food. They do so to be able to focus on the spiritual and the essential. But what this also does is reduce their testosterone levels. Being in a caloric deficit? That reduces testosterone. Not caring about competition/status and isolating oneself from society? Less testosterone. Abstaining from sex? Less testosterone.It's not a good or bad thing per se. Perhaps it's better to have lower testosterone to be freed from worldly temptations. But it makes you less competitive and weaker. If you are not competing with other men your body has no reason to produce an hormone to help you with that, it's a waste of energy. As a male you are a biological creature meant to compete with other men for resources, status and women, and that's what testosterone promotes. Testosterone boosts your male ability to chase male worldly pursuits. It drives you towards success and makes you stronger, more masculine, more risk taking, more stimulation chasing. Monks don't need, actually no, they don't WANT that because being freed from the chase of stimulation is their goal, they actually need less of it. They don't want to compete because competition is a silly worldly pursuit that distracts from the spiritual. Well, good for them. Me personally I want to compete, I want to become something greater than I was, I want to have a drive to succeed to crush other men. So crashing my testosterone to be freed from worldly temptations is not an option.(1/?)
>>32012992As a male who has lifted weights for 14 years, my testosterone is above average. Still can do nofap just fine, in fact it makes me more competitive and not less.Wet dreams are extremely mild, they do not drain energy like a regular orgasm.
>>32012992Even look at your post :>And you just feel less stressed out physiologicallyYou sound like you overdosed on L-theanine lmao.Me, I WANT to be stressed. Stress is not always bad. Eustress is good. It drives you, gives you a sense of urgency, a push, and pleasure in the end when you accomplish your goal in this high stake, high risk situation. I love it.I don't want to feel so comfortable and serene because I cannot afford to. I will admit worldly pursuits are ultimately meaningless, but I am an existentialist. Even if it has no intrinsic meaning, I gave it one, my family gave it one, my people gave it one. Because I have a responsibility towards myself and towards my people, I have to go hard. I have to compete. I need to compete. I need testosterone. Women are a distraction but crashing my T levels to stop being distracted from them would also crash my competitive nature and my urgency/drive to succeed.Hence I prefer fucking this toy as a way to fulfill my sexual needs while staying focused and not wasting my time with dating.Maybe when I manage to do the things I have to do, and I'm old, I will be on some monk shit. But for now I want to be a fool that pursues worldly things and is stressed out because of it. Because I need to be stressed out.(2/2)
>>32012998Do you have sex?>Wet dreamsWet dreams are essentially uncontrolled masturbation / ejaculation, I'm sorry. You are having them because you have a need for sexual release and your brain just says fuck it imma just do it while that nigga sleeping lol>Wet dreams are extremely mild, they do not drain energy like a regular orgasmWrong, this is just an impression.When you are sleeping you are in a relaxed, parasympathetic nervous system dominant state. If you have a nocturnal emissions, ejaculation triggers prolactin release, which does a bunch of shit but it relaxes you and reduces your need for stimulation, which is what you call "drain energy".When you have a "regular orgasm" you go from an excited and stimulation chasing state to a more relaxed one that inhibits some dopaminergic processes to reduce arousal.When you have a wet dream you go from a sleeping relaxed state to a wake relaxed high prolactin. You don't "feel drained" because the switch was more subtle.It's like the frog in hot water shit. If you put a frog in cold water and then suddenly switch to hot it's gonna notice it. But going from cold to less cold more subtly is not really noticeable And wet dreams are nasty lol. I don't want to have to clean my underwear and bed covers.
>>32013047>Do you have sex?Of course not, I am browsing 4chan.>>Wet dreams>Wet dreams are essentially uncontrolled masturbation / ejaculation, I'm sorry.Actually, I have had several wet dreams where I didn't even jizz. They are physiologically different.
>>32012998>>32013047Btw you can regulate this.Most men masturbate in a way that feels really draining because they don't relax through it at all and are too focused on the orgasm as a end goal. They "just want to get a nut off".So it puts them in a sympathetic nervous system dominant state and the switch from that to the more relaxed one from ejaculating feels really draining.A lot of this is poor sexual habits developed in childhood. Like you are in the bathroom and trying to finish as fast as possible before adults wonder wtf you're doing lol.Not only is a more patient and less stressed orgasm more pleasuring, being able to have one gives you more control over your ejaculatory response. You can theoretically relax to the point where you can last as long as you want, or you can ejaculate a certain way. Once you understand the relationship between relaxation/stress a lot of things become clearer. Even sex because arousal, ejaculatory response, etc... all of this is influenced by your PNS/SNS and how you switch between them. In a way understanding how to use this is mindfulness. Most men just build up as much tension as possible until it bursts, and they have 0 control over that tension.
>>32013063Good point. I should say nocturnal emissions to be clearer. But in my case I usually ejaculate from wet dreams. Sometimes it's a lot and sometimes it's a little bit. I have also had none sexual dreams that led to nocturnal emissions. But the act of ejaculation is represented in them in a very, very abstract way which then translates in the real world. Sometimes I don't even know that I ejaculated while sleeping but then I wake up and understand the abstract shit that happened in the dreamAnyway, to be honest good for you if you've found something that work for you with NoFap. I am glad. I have another strategy and it only concerns me. I don't have all the answers, all I can do is experiment on myself and talk for myself. And maybe the experiment will prove my beliefs wrong and I'll realize I should have listened to you or others. Who knows? I can only know by doing while keeping a critical mindset. I am open to changing my opinions. Even what I say about porn, most of it is mostly for myself, based on my experience. Only concerns me.Even sex toys for males, if you asked me 1 or 2 years ago I'd laugh and ridicule this idea. But through reflection and reappraisal I am now the one with a sex toy and don't think there is anything wrong with it. I even think porn is worse than using a sex toy. Personally I think I have realized it's a good option for me to fulfill my sexual needs in a healthier way without getting distracted by women. But I am still learning. Who knows maybe it will be in the trash in one year. I can only experiment, analyze, hypothesize, abstract, and experiment again, while trying to keep a open and critical mind and attenuating my biases.
>>32012965This dude just admitted to putting his mouth where he put his dick
>>32013143In my experience, using sex toys without porn will unwire your brain from porn. Then the next step is to masturbate without ejaculating. Then the final step is to unwire from cooming entirely. It is the ultimate freedom.The one key to nofap is that you can't do it in isolation. You have to always be going out and socializing to keep yourself occupied. This is what tends to propel people from having a shitty life to an abundant one.
>>32013154I do it before and I clean my toy everytime after but whatever lol So you are against sucking pussy on real women too? >>32013155>In my experience, using sex toys without porn will unwire your brain from porn.Interesting. I'm at that step.>Then the next step is to masturbate without ejaculating. I already do that.Sometimes I don't want the prolactin release because it makes me too apathetic and thus not stressed enough to do the things I want. So I just stop masturbating without ejaculating.Plus the pleasure that built up from stimulation has a good effect on my "drive". As a kid Id I use masturbation with no ejaculation as a free form of pseudo-adderall to motivate me with studying LMAO, this was before I even knew about ADD. That was very maladaptive though and I don't recommend.>Then the final step is to unwire from cooming entirely. It is the ultimate freedom.You know what, intuitively I kinda agree.I feel in general most men are too focused on ejaculation. They think masturbation=ejaculation, sex=ejaculation. Being a slave from that burst of energy, that ejaculation, does not feel good at all. It even makes you worse at sex. That's why your step 2 is wise. Learning to separate ejaculation from masturbation teaches you to stop chasing ejaculation as much and to stop seeing ejaculation as the end-all-be-all. Makes you less of a slave. Makes you stress less and relax more into the sexual stimulation.And then your step 3 takes it to a whole another level. It just learns to relax into whatever sexual stimulation one might have that arise and be liberated from the "need" to stimulate oneself. It's not that you are low libido, but moreso that you have the mindfulness and the control necessary to not be a slave to your libido.Thank you you are giving me a different perspective here. True say that step 3 is something to aspire towards. Wise post anon.(1/?)
>>32013155>>32013231>The one key to nofap is that you can't do it in isolation. You have to always be going out and socializing to keep yourself occupied. This is what tends to propel people from having a shitty life to an abundant oneMakes sense.If you are distracted socially you are distracted from this shit too.You can't really masturbate in public lol so you get an incentive to control yourself. When you are by yourself, you easily become a victim of your temptations since there is no one to judge you or hold you accountable.Me personally right now I am coping that I am an hermit to focus on my growth. It's retarded I know but a temporary thing. I know I'll have to socialize to truly succeed. As much shit as I give normies, as a human we are not anything without others. Otherd you can trust are the ultimate tools for a healthy sense of urgency, accountability, positive/negative feedback, and just growth in general. A healthy social circle beats most "productivity tricks". Even if you are an autistic retard like me. Especially other people who are similarly focused on growth and with whom you have love and understanding.Even women. My ex used to give me a lot of motivation. She'd hype me up talking about I could be the next Zuckerberg, she'd give me incentives to be productive mostly through sex but also lil cutesy shit, she'd talk about our future as a married couple with kids etc... and Id do the same back to her. Still, I feel women that really give you that nowadays are hard to come by, especially if you are an autistic retard lol. For the most part women are a distraction for me. Short term shit is a waste of time, and long term it's hard to find something meaningful.I will socialize more but mostly in my field and with other men. Women, I don't want to focus on that until I'm in a more comfortable situation where I can afford that luxury but will also have more chances to find something meaningful by being a better man with thus more options(2/2)
>>32012965Thanks for looking out, anon will definitely be purchasing her
>>31997596Enjoy it while it lasts bro. Plastic pussy becomes a nuisance after a while. I'll share some things I did, but your best bet is to ask anons in the /jp/ onahole threads. Back when I had roomates I just hid mine in a box in the closet with a bunch of stuff on top of it. Probably not the best but it worked for me. I wouldn't think too hard about it, just don't keep it out in the open. For drying, I just let mine dry overnight with a towel draped over it to hide it until I could put it back in the box. But like I said, best to ask the /jp/sies for adv on this.
>>31997728>these repliesI was going to make a thread but I realized this board is full of retarded zoomer normalfags with no life experience incapable of giving helpful advice. Thanks for sparing me the effort OP, clearly everyone here is a judgemental room temperature iq faggot and there's no point trying to engage with them.
>>32015287OP is disgusting and you are too if you defend him, kek
>>32015329you need to be 18 to post here
>>32015287this whole board is just minors and college kids who want people to shit on to feel better about themselves while they get into discord server drama and crybully out of accountability lmao
>>32015329kys zoomer simp
Steal girl from streets and use her as that doll. I beg of you to stop this insanity
>>32015331>>32015340Have sexAnd not with a piece of plastic lol
>>32015567You first zoomie.
>>32015581I'm not even a zomie but that's probably because there's so much more immigrants now
>>32015737What?
>>31997829>open dresser drawer to take a piss>accidentally give OPs sex roll a golden shower>OPs drunk friend has now cucked himIt’s a disaster waiting to happen
>>32015775Zoomers are mostly brown people
Don't hide it, show it with pride. If they ask, just day you're in a long distance relationship and your sex doll works as a digital vagina.Also fuck you normal cattle shitting on OP. A sex doll is far less troublesome than a real woman. At least he's not gooning to hard candy
>>32015287Zoomers in general are over socialized and hyper conformist cause they're terrified of being cringe, they all act like temporarily embarrassed chads
>>32016823This has nothing to do with hyper conformism.Having sex with plastic is pathetic and nasty.
Why do you need to hide it? Do you not live alone? Put it in the closet and that's that, cover it with a blanket if you need to, it really shouldn't be that hard. Also you should probably upgrade to a full sex doll at some point.
>>31997904You fap to Espeon. Your opinion is invalid.
Just offering some support because I see a lot of emotionally charged normaltards shooting flak at you. You're not crazy for having a sex doll, especially not that hip only part. An inflatable one would be weird, this one is perfectly reasonable. You just want to satisfy that dumbass urge nice and easily, and you've undoubtedly spent less than I have on prostitutes in the past 3 years since I started visiting them and I don't even get that much action. Don't let normaltards get to ya.
I have two onaholes and I never use them; my hand is easier and feels better. Maybe it's because I'm small, but when I fuck my onaholes there's like no friction, and I always have to put in a lot of lube since my foreskin is too tight to rawdog it. So I fuck the thing for like three minutes, cum, and then I have to give the thing a fucking bath, carefully dry it, and then clean my lube covered crotch. Onaholes suck and I regret buying the two I own instead of just getting an escort like a normal person
>>31997728>When you watch porn, you are watching another man have sex with a female you desire. You are literally sitting like a cuck trying to self-insert as the male porn actor. THIS is pathetic.>Not only that but it's proven porn has A LOT of damaging effects.i agree with the second part.the first part is just wrong tho, i think for the past year or so i've exclusively watched solo female content. not really cucked
what damaging effects does porn have on a full grown adult
>normalfags when girls have sextoys(^:>normalfags when guys have sextoys)^:<
>>31999450LOL
>>31997596I never had sex toys when living with my parents, but I did have bongs and shit. I would hide that stuff in the bottom box of stacked boxes. It was a pain in the ass to get to, but they never ever hinting at wanting to search there.
>>31997681>girls can have dildos and vibrators, but guys can't have their own sex toysLike get real people.
Why are there so many normalfags on /adv/?Holy shitYou conformist retardsYou have no ability to think for yourself critically. You just follow what the crowds say.It's actually fucking insane.
>>31997596What the utter fuckThis is sad
>>31999450SIR DO NOT REDEEM THE ONAHOLE
>>31997681Women are bouncing on 12 inch dildoes and this is what freaks you out?
>>31997728Having a sex doll is akin to rape and pedophilia.
>>32024265Are you a woman?Why are you holding yourself to female standards?You guys are pathetic feminine men.
this has got to be the worst thread on 4chan I have seen
>>32026897Why?
Had a kek reading this, comical thread.
>>31997596>I just got a hip sex doll.repent and join the Catholic Church sinner.
>>31997596>an Ottoman chair with hidden storage but they are kind of expensiveThe only thing more pathetic than what you already did is thinking that a hollow ottoman is expensive.
>>32021017>so many normalfags on /adv/Why? Because they don't fuck a synthetic pussy? Wake up.
>>31999515>I'm just hairier than most African descendants.Pajeet larping as a nig, tale as old as their arrival on the Internet.
>>32026887Women want equality and what not.If it's acceptable to fuck a 12 inch dragon dildo with a vibrating anal attachment, a fake cum dispenser and a Bluetooth control scheme, then a plastic as ought to be fine too.This is the feminist materialism they voted for.
>>32026897then you have a lot more lurking to do. There's a general for this on /jp/.>>31997596I don't know about hiding it, but they have plenty of guides on the /ona/ thread on /jp/ otaku culture board.
>>31997728bro, you're just going to watch porn while fucking this thing. I don't judge you for it like the others but get off your high horse we know how this ends.
OP hereI bought that doll and fucked her about 6 days agoA lot of interesting things have been happeningI didn't get the urge the masturbate ever since I first fucked the dollNot because I wasn't horny. I had morning woods every day and got randomly hard just looking at women in public.It's as if having sex with that toy made me feel sexually content and fulfilled. I don't have that temptation to chase overstimulation, "more", as much, which made me less prone to responding to urges to sexually stimulate myself.I haven't masturbated ever since I fucked that toy the day I made that thread. Neither did I fuck the toy although I could have.I feel the toy is a good middle ground between visuosensory stimuli and imagination. The problem with porn is that there are so many different women of different features, sounds, and shapes that you get overstimulated and never get satisfied enough because you keep wanting more and moreMasturbating to porn is like eating addictive unhealthy fast food.Masturbating to your imagination is like a healthy meal, but takes a long time to cook.Masturbating with a hip sex doll is like the perfect middle ground. You eat a healthy meal that doesn't take too long to cook. There are sensory stimuli but not anywhere near as much and near as varied as with porn.I guess this is why I felt "content" and didn't get the urge to sexually stimulate myself for 6 days after fucking that toy.I had a similar experience when I used to masturbate to my imagination. It "felt" healthier than masturbating to porn and left me feeling sexually fulfilled for longer, though not as much as that toy did.But masturbating to your imagination is also worse than just not masturbating to anything because you are still kind of chasing more and more stimulation in your imagination. The most healthy masturbation is just masturbating off sensations, which is harder and can take a long time.The toy is a good middle ground imo. + it's more realistic and free-hands.
>>32028739Hopefully not,it's been 6 days so far since I have had this thing and I didn't watch porn nor even get the urge to.See the post above.I don't judge other people that watch porn anymore but as far as I PERSONALLY AM concerned, I don't like watching porn. It feels unhealthy to me compared to when I used to fap to my imagination or off sensations. It just keeps you wanting more and more in a way that doesn't feel good long term. So again, hopefully not.
>>32028829if it works for you then it works. where did you decide to hide it?
>>32028676Yeah I checked that /ona/ thread before>>32027842LmaoBelieve what you want, I'm not Indian.Go to Bahia in Brazil, plenty of hairy blacks.>>32028830I just threw it in a bag and put it in my closet for now.I'll try something a little more furtive later.>>32027119I want one with lock keyI am very frugalEven that doll I hesitated a lot before buying it and it only cost 30 dollars.>>32019823Interesting>>32018869Seriously, will never understand.>>32018007Fair>>32018777Mirin trips.Overstimulating and addictive by virtue of sexual stimulation itself being very stimulating, and the infinite diversity of different visual/audio inputs you can get from porn. This isn't good for you especially repeatedly.>>32017957Not my experience, but interesting.>>32017399Thanks anon>>32017022My mom visits sometimes and is nosy.>>32016479lol>>32015230Thanks for the advice anon
>>32028856fyi if you want to dry it quickly, use isopropyl alcohol, 99% works best. Flush out the inside, and rinse off the exterior. The alcohol will wash away all the water and the alcohol will dry a lot faster.
>>32028874Noted. Thank you anon!
>>32028874I'd get one but the idea of cleaning up my cum out of a plastic ass puts me off. I can imagine the shame.
>>32028887I haven’t cummed in it and don’t plan to.I’ll always pull out or just not cum.
>>32028887I never really felt shame when cleaning mine out. It's just masturbation. I felt more shame when I tried fapping and cumming on my belly instead of catching it.
>>32028898Seems kind of redundant to not cum in it? Surely that's the best part?>>32028915Yeah, maybe I'd get over it after the first few cleans. And you're right that it's probably about as shameful as cleaning cum off your hand or cumming into a kleenex.
>>31997596My thread gets like 5 replies and then dies but this gets well over 100...I have my full size one hidden in a blanket box with some stuff thrown over the top of the box.Wish I never got it in the first place and if anyone is thinking about getting a full sized doll, dont.It Doesnt fill the void and taking it out and hiding it is a hassle, especially when you don't live alone, since it actually weights as much as a woman. Seriously, these things are fucking heavy.Those hip or torso only dolls look weird. Don't see the appeal in them
>>31997728>you are watching another man have sex with a female you desireand you're simulating sex with a dismembered woman via a plastic mockery. the pornsick scrotes and dudes like yourselves are 2 sides of the same coin. irrational beasts who cannot think past when they can pleasure their dick next. > Getting too used to your hand can also make you worse at actual sex especially if you grip too hard or overstimulate yourself with porn.but somehow fucking a piece of plastic made to mimic parts of a woman won't? KEK, see you're all so fucking stupid. brain melted from gooning.
>>31997728Objectively right but you still come off as a weirdo not judging
>>32029311>and you're simulating sex with a dismembered woman via a plastic mockeryyes? so?his point is that there is no cuckery involved here at least lol. That doesn't disprove his point.>but somehow fucking a piece of plastic made to mimic parts of a woman won't? KEK, see you're all so fucking stupid. brain melted from gooning.The piece of plastic is designed to feel realistic and you put lube in it. You are also supposed to fuck it hands-free. This is more similar to "actual sex" and you cannot possibly force the inside of the toy to grip harder or in ways that aren't similar to vagina.
>>31997728as much as anons will deny ityou're kinda right on that one
>>32029245learn to make more compelling threads faggot
>>31999812just make sure you return to women when your goals are accomplisheddo not fall into the coomer abyss
>>31997728They hated him because he spoke the truth
>>31997596the fucking sock is sending me
>>31997596>How do you do shit like this and tell anyone even on the internet.It's a grooming thread, /adv/ gets them quite often, relax.
>>31999450He’s black, he doesn’t have hair on the topmost section of the middle finger. You seem to be pretty tall, judging by your hand, so why don’t you try getting a woman? Also what’s the point of a whole disembodied torso, when you can use your hand.
>>32035726same lmao
>>31997596what does it feel like compared to pussy
How is this thread still up
>>32037433Grooming for what?
>>32041383To groom men into thinking a sex doll is acceptable
>>32026887Kek that’s a funny way to protect a double standard>you want women to not be given all your money?? What are you, holding yourself to a FEMININE standard??Lmao
>>32026897A benign and mundane thread for 4chan. You need to go back to preddit
>>32029311You’re definitely a woman. Beating your dick is objectively going to make the guy worse than slamming the rubber ass.
>>32041383Grooming is when you say something I don’t like
>>31997596Sorry you had to endure so much abuse from sad trolls on this board, OP. I'm sure you've figured out by now that other onahole users in denial are just gonna shit on you for it. You should've posted this on a different forum. Like for example the guy telling you to use disinfectant spray and a brush to clean it (both of which will destroy the inside of it), you're just opening yourself up to abuse. Just abandon this thread and make sure you use only water-based lube, and feel NO shame in your replacement pussy. There is literally 0 shame in owning an onahip in an age where having sex with a real woman is such an incalculable risk, where women don't build the roads or keep the lights on or fight the wars but yet expect EVERYTHING from us, you bear no shame in your deeds. Take care and Godspeed, anon.
>>31997728hory basedooo.so women can own multiple black dildos and vibrators and no guy bats an eye but if a guy gets a turbo 3000 sexy ass-pussy-mouth sex doll the same guys call him a loser
>>31997734>having sex with a sexy womans ass is trannyism>women fucking toys is not trannyismThe mind of the normalfag
>>31997728based
>>32047964How the fuck is that based, Porn is a release for most men who dont get any action
>>32050616porn isn't good for youmasturbation is healthy but porn is not good for you
