>>32315150
have you put in 20 hours yet it takes 20 hours to learn the basics
more weeks, more callouses the finger has to strengthen like with working out
open c chord no need to mute the 6th string just don't pick or strum from it
it takes weeks to get the finger strength to play the full barre, practice barring, but do open and power chords before then.. basic strumming patterns
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G-Em-C-D

>>32315210
an immediate feel for the concept of music, after you have some open chords
get your friend to play and teach you the minor pentatonic while you strum Am,
then switch to where you play while he strums
get power chords then you can play most of rock
if he can't do that fire him and get a teacher because he really sucks

>>32315210
>>open c chord no need to mute the 6th string just don't pick or strum from it
this is hard, that's the thing
i just strum all 6, it's hard to strum only 5
>>32315214
i'm not paying him lol, he's been playing guitar for like 10 years but mostly gives me tips online bcs we can't meet up irl often bcs of work

i just think it's my posture + not properly practicing every day for like at least an hour
and practicing and playing a lot

>>32315223
C rest the pick/picking finger on the 5th string, then strum down,
then to G, strum all 6, and then back to C
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then D open chord, rest the pick on the 4th string, then strum.
trying slowly/individually at first

>>32315260
okay, i'll try that and just playing all the chords like

G-Em-C-D in a circle to get it down

i'll do it after i finish my programming homework and try to keep it up every day

can try slowly picking individually each string to see where it is, actually, C and A use the E note it convention just has it that it isn't the low e its technically correct

>>32315150
I am a Jimmy Page repped guitarist, meaning: I was chilling with a famous friend of his in a guitar shop and Jimmy Page complimented me through the phone because him and this other guitarist are really tight friends, even been in a band together, they talk guitars often. I smoked a blunt with Jimmy's friend and he and Jimmy Page invited me to join them for a jam in the future, Jimmy also gifted me a 1979 Gibson Les Paul in storage because when I was younger he found me in a 4chan thread and asked me what dream Les Paul I would have (but can't say '59) when I was much younger and a student learning here so you may want to go to /mu too because there are some very legit musicians there. Essentially though I was playing a 1969 Gibson SG when I met the man and he liked my playing enough to include me in one of his best friendships and the guitar shop owner was the one who set up the 79' Les Paul which is in storage. I have received guitar lessons from B.B. King in an extremely personal way. I have won multiple guitar competitions and have been likened in comparison to Jimi Hendrix because of a guitar performance of mine that was an homage/guitar trick to him that no one else had ever done. I played guitar and received perfect ratings in Jazz competition by a musician who was a close friend of Dizzy Gillespie and some of the greatest Jazz guitar giants you could ever imagine. I've interned at a grammy winning studio with the best guitarists I could ever imagine, took a lesson with the best guitarist I could imagine choosing, and have pursued all of this from passion for the instrument.

I read your post and it seems like the other anons are giving you good advice, yes lord I'll contribute too. First let me say it's okay to get frustrated and emotional but you gotta be a man about your feelings to really get somewhere with the guitar, put that frustrated retardation into your instrument through playing it. Then when you have other feelings you can do the same.

You don’t even know the open chords yet don’t call it hard and ass and just learn. It’s a new skill it’s not going to be easy. There’s no magic trick because you wouldn’t even have enough skill to do it. You just have to try

>>32315150
1. It's a combination of technique on both hands, learning pressure points and how to hold the instrument as well as interact with it. You get better with time when you spend time with the instrument. You're asking about string skipping which is its own skill you can look up to get better at you just need to know that it has a term. When you're a beginner you're seeing the instrument as steps across multiple strings, see it as one big staircase with notes you don't have to play, invisible notes you get to play, open notes you have to avoid playing, and that you're going across this staircase on all 4s (or 5s if you have big enough hands to use your thumb like I do.)
2. You don't have enough grip strength yet because you're either a woman, taking too long to play everyday, or facing some deep emotional issues that weakened your spirit. Pick up the guitar, play it the best you can daily, and you will gain strength. Use your instrument as a tool of expression and your spirit will get stronger. This is the part of guitar playing people call "the soul" - if you pick up the guitar to practice it and get better you better do it frequently and you better put time into playing it with your soul so that your musical muscle gets bigger and stronger or you're not really playing the instrument and developing as a musician. A musician is a step above someone who owns the instrument because the musician plays the instrument.
3. Practice standing up sometimes and practice sitting down sometimes, you'll keep the neck in a stable position, but you gotta hold the guitar right with your fretting hand so that the notes are supported by the instrument's body. Think about my analogy of going across a staircase on all 4's. Moving across the length of the neck is hand speed which is forearm, elbow, and shoulder based for guitar. Moving your fingers across the fretboard is finger speed. There's plenty of exercises to train this which I'll detail in my next post.

>>32315150
Guitar is one of those skills where to begin, simple open chord switching seems like a mountain, but after 2 weeks of practice it becomes natural. And then the next technique, barre chords or string muting, seems impossible, but after a few more weeks practice, it's something you're able to do without thinking about it.

Practice, repetition, playing as slow as you have to to do it perfectly and then going faster, and slowing down again if you're making mistakes.

Even if your practice goes poorly, once you put down the guitar your brain is rewiring itself to play: try 15 minutes practice and then 5 minutes off and do this for 4 Blocks. Your subconscious pieces the movements together.

>>32315150
Also, you're using muscles in your forearms, hands and fingers, it's natural growing pains in strength.

Use something like JustinGuitar if you're getting started, his beginning tutorials are gold for beginners.

And fingers will hurt, it's normal, you will need to get used to it until callouses form.

>>32315150
Before I give you exercises for your first 3 listed issues I'm gonna address the rest of the post here and give you some info that you can improve on the guitar with.
>fingers spelling the alphabet instead of the chords
>big guitar
Every instrument comes with the bodily affects of learning it, something Beethoven taught in his lessons. Your ring finger needs to build independency muscles as well as fretting strength, look up "piano finger independence" exercises for something you can do to build those independency muscles in your hand.

>sanding down the bridge
you have two options, learn how to do it yourself which includes all the mistakes on your instruments or pay someone else to set it up and focus on playing for now until you get better at the guitar and a tremendous failure in luthiery (which is the art of maintaining and building guitars) won't be so devastating as you're already having difficulty playing the instrument and breaking it is a step towards Jimi without having developed the playing, which isn't necessarily a bad move, just saying it might be too early to do that unless you're confident in your DIY skills. My first instrument was a starter box strat from fender with a big headstock and unfinished frets that would cut my hands until I sanded them down. I'll be honest your ability to cry now will become the ability to play things that bring tears to people's eyes if you stay dedicated and can get good.

>Posture
there's plenty of tutorials for that but this will get stronger over time too. Post a pic to see if I can help.

As for the last sentence in your OP, just keep listening to music, tracking songs you'd like to learn some day, attempting them eventually as you get better, pick a direction you'd like to go in with the instrument, and put the time in.

Frustration can be a good thing when you're just starting out because it can show passion for the instrument if you're frustrated for the right reasons.

thank you for all the advice, i read all of it, can't post pic of my posture rn because i'm not home
but it's like, i curve my wrist to a 45 degree angle diagonal to the neck of the guitar instead of straightening it out at a 90 degree angle and it hurts my wrist a lot

>>32315800
are you learning online, where

>>32315805
no, i'm just looking at the chord diagrams and trying to play on my own and then looking up justinguitar's video whenever i can't fucking properly place my fingers or get the right sound

>>32315774 >>32315690 >>32315609 >>32315150
Alright as we proceed let me just make it clear, a lot of the guitar greats we have from the Rock N Roll era when guitar centered music was the most dominant are from the British invasion, an era of bluesy and avant garde rock music from the UK with each band having their own attitudes and a unique sound. Brian May, Jimmy Page, and Jeff Beck all learned from a guitar instruction manual that was made by a famous British session musician.

If you can find this guitar instruction manual you'd have all the exercises and wisdom that those greats have started on but not the same fingers and spirit. The fingers and spirit of your playing develops here in the daily grind of loving and playing the instrument.

They're not the only greats from that era, so remember that the wisdom I'm trying to pass on to you is that you must gain wisdom from other guitarists, which you can gain from personal relationships, online forums, guides, starter kits, or even instruction manuals as they did in the pre-internet era. I highly recommend instruction manuals in the modern era because most options are comprehensive or have complete reviews.

I learned a lot playing guitar with my friends, meeting guitar heros, buying instruction manuals or exercise guides, joining forums, and using the internet to find as much guitar, gear, and music knowledge as I could.

You will have to put time not only into playing but into reading, however the biggest breakthroughs will come from playing the instrument.

>>32315800
You're welcome, I have a serious love for the instrument and have been blessed by the guitar heroes in my experience which came from their generosity and love for the instrument so I would do the same.

your wrist is to remain straight from your elbow on your fretting hand while using your elbow and shoulder to adjust the fretting. The palm of the hand is essentially what moves and the wrist becomes stronger without bending very much.

>>32315815
i'm also learning but i'm a retard
also i feel like dont have enough time to practice, but the truth is i'm just lazy, i could be practicing right now

>>32315815
JustinGuitar goes over form in his beginner videos.

>>32315150
alright so see what I mean op in this post >>32315826 ? In the last sentence I state that your muscles for guitar will grow stronger, a lot of the muscles are independency muscles which is like your brain connecting to the muscle tissue in order to build muscle memory and function around parts moving differently. Your wrist will become stronger over time with the rest of your hand becoming more flexible and independent, including your palm gaining independence from your wrist. So for this issue the exercise what you're going to do is:
>hold guitar in lap without fretting
>put fretting hand over the neck like you're just holding the guitar; make the focus on keeping your wrist straight.
>move this position across the neck without fretting any strings, just focus on keeping that wrist straight in one position as you move the hand across the neck, as fast as possible and as slow as possible with the focus being keeping the wrist straight in one position.
The progression of this exercise is to do it again with your wrist in differently straight positions that still apply to guitar, which is mostly about still keeping the wrist "straight" but shifting your palm's positioning in tandem with the fingers. (forcing nothing, this should be a painless exercise)

Now exercises for your first 3 questions. Even if you can't complete the exercise complete it to the best of your ability every day and the changes will be dramatic. Of course you can do more repetitions but these are progression exercises.

If you apply these exercises those issues will go away and you'll run into the next skill level of that skill issue. I'll tag this post and the op post as an central point.

>>32315919 >>32315150
Question 1. Exercise 1
>Start by fretting the C chord as cleanly as you can
>pick each string individually up and down: e, a, d, g, b, e > e, b, g, d, a, e (repeat this 10 times)
>next pick two strings at a time: ea, ad, dg, gb, be > eb, bg, gd, da, ae (10x)
>next 3 strings: ead, adg, dgb, gbe > ebg, gda, dae (10x)
> next 4 strings: eadg, adgb, dgbe > ebgd , gbda, gdae (10x)
> 5 strings: eadgb, adgbe > ebgda , bgdae (10x)
> 6 strings: eadgbe > ebgdae (10x)

Q1 Exercise 2
>fret the open C chord
>strum all of it as cleanly as possible without muting any string
> let your arm get loose getting used to strumming this
>now rest your hand lightly on the bridge and strum while not really making louder sounds ,this is called muting. Try the same exercise above but this time while muting the strings.

Question 1. Exercise 3
>fret the clean open C again
>strum the strings all openly as clear as you can so all the strings ring out
>next you're going to exercise muting individual strings by training your fretting fingers and thumb to mute the strings. Muted strings will be signified with an X
> open C shape is e-a-d-g-b-e w/ 0-3-2-0-1-0
> 1: mute the low e with your thumb or moving the finger on 3 slightly to cause it not to ring out with the rest of the chord e-a-d-g-b-e w/ X-3-2-0-1-0
> 2: refret the C chord and this time don't place your finger on 3 down all the way or at all and use your 2nd finger to mute the string while fretting the 2 e-a-d-g-b-e w/ 0-X-2-0-1-0
>Keep trying until you understand before going onto 3 because the exercise is to practice the concept and this is the easiest part of the exercise.
>we will now complete the exercise instructions with only the strings you're to mute
> 3: e-a-d-g-b-e w/ 0-3-X-0-1-0
> 4: e-a-d-g-b-e w/ 0-3-2-X-1-0
> 5: e-a-d-g-b-e w/ 0-3-2-0-X-0
> 6: e-a-d-g-b-e w/ 0-3-2-0-1-X

With the issue of question 1, first learn to do all strings open&clean, then apply "mistakes"&learn to mute individually

>>32315919 >>32315150
Question 2 Exercise 1.
>In this exercise you're going to find the place where you can bar the whole neck for the individual fingers and just strum them all as cleanly as possible and gradually move it up over time as you get stronger. Always start at fret 1 and try your best to muster the strength to bar everything cleanly then move to somewhere you can get all the sounds to ring out clearly when you fret and strum.
> Index finger e-a-d-g-b-e w/ 1-1-1-1-1-1 (strum for 1 minute focusing on each note ringing out)
> repeat for each finger barring the whole neck at whatever fret you have the strength to barre it at.
>yes even Pinky e-a-d-g-b-e w/ 1-1-1-1-1-1
>for fingers you don't have the strength yet for it's okay to reinforce it with other fingers but you must have a strong index finger at the very least to perform most barre chords.

Q2 Exercise 2.
>bend each string with one finger as close to the nut as possible
>start at the 15th fret if you're not strong enough to bend with one finger yet
>e-a-d bends down to the ground g-b-e bends up towards you
>if you have to support some of the weaker fingers with other fingers at the 15th fret that's fine but this is a barre chord exercise and that would be a string bending exercise which is lead guitar skill.
>over time get stronger by bending one string with one finger as close to the 1st fret as possible on each finger
The levels of bending are 1/4, 1/2, and 1, going up incrementally in 1/4s as high as anyone can bend their strings without them breaking really. So you should aim for being able to do 1/4 bends first, then 1/2 , then 1. In music theory these are called by steps, a 1/4 note bend isn't technically a step but a whole(1) and 1/2 are.

This exercise is still difficult for many people to perform even when they're stronger in their hands because a 1 finger bend at the first fret takes tremendous strength.

>Q2. E3
>Just look up barrechord shapes and strum them man

>>32315919 >>32315150
Please review what I've already written in the thread on this because it's actually incredibly powerful stuff and I'm putting you on $billions of game that I learned.

Question 3. Exercise 1.
>>32315690 described here on 3

Question 3. Exercise 2.
>put index finger on fret 1 and slide up to 7 stopping on 7 (10x)
>repeat on all strings
> do it in reverse
>repeat all steps above with all fingers on all strings
You can do this with any fret position to any fret position and any finger to any finger, you just have to get creative with trying it.

Q.3 Ex .3
>google guitar major scale
>learn the major scale across the neck
>google guitar major scale 1 string
>learn it on one string first since you're new
>slide your one finger to play the whole scale across the neck on one string
>practice doing a slide from the first note in the scale to every other note in the scale and back again.
>appreciate doing this for each string for each finger

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>>32315150
Ask /mu/

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>>32315150
Alright OP, I spent a while helping you out but this will also help every guitarist so don't forget to save and share.

As long as you keep listening to guitar music and finding things that inspire you, keep imagining guitar riffs and licks, and keep practicing you should make it there.

There's so much about guitar, the instrument is really old, and there's many different styles of guitar which you can have your own style in. No matter what do like Jimmy Page said and find a reason to pick it up everyday.

All glory to YHWH

>>32315150
Self-teaching guitar is the easiest thing in the world. Just stick w it and it'll basically happen automatically over time

One more thing to add, learn to tune by ear as early as you can and you'll get better quicker than a lot of beginning guitarists because you trained the hearing yourself part of music.

>>32315150

IMO most peoples' biggest pitfall these days is not being willing to suck. Obviously you want to improve, but willfully sucking all the time is the fertile ground you need to begin from, if that makes any sense. With few exceptions there really isn't any "folk music" these days, and at this point peoples' parents, or grandparents even, are rarely competent amateur musicians, so you turn to youtube, see incredible 7yo koreans, get demoralized, rage that you suck, repeat. Sucking is normal and with awareness you will improve

https://voca.ro/17jyqkIret6N

>>32315150
>2nd week playing
You're using negative language and wallowing for being 2 weeks in and not playing like a professional. Calm the fuck down dude, we all suck our first weeks and months, but you keep at it because it interests you and maybe you want some pussy out of it too, but once that goes away you go back to it because it is a way of blowing off steam, getting ideas out, and passing time while also refining a skill and artistic pursuit.
T. been playing at a self taught decent level for a decade now.

>>32315150
lol you suck
https://vocaroo.com/15fHOsoZc0um

damn this thread is still up
i legit thought i would just be brushed off and nobody would care

i gotta read through all of the other advice you guys gave me, especially the tripfag cuz you wrote A LOT

>>32315150
Try Ukulele. It's easier, and you can play uke chords on a guitar.